Speaker 1: For thirty five years, Cindy Stumpo has been a female
Speaker 1: home builder with a passion for design, a mastery of detail,
Speaker 1: and a commitment to her crack.
Speaker 2: With daughter Samantha Stumpo by her side.
Speaker 3: I don't need life, the whole family and I date
Speaker 3: with me. That's a good note. It's goddemn weird.
Speaker 1: See. Stumpo Development is the only second generation female construction
Speaker 1: company in the country.
Speaker 4: You're crazy, You're a wacko, You're insane.
Speaker 2: I mean, it just doesn't end together.
Speaker 1: Cindy and Samantha welcome guests to explore the world of construction,
Speaker 1: real estate, development, design and more. Unpredictable.
Speaker 2: Every time I think I know what you want, you
Speaker 2: switch it out. But that's what makes sharehouses all used.
Speaker 1: They discuss anything that happens between the roof and the foundations.
Speaker 2: Nothing is off limits. You truly do care about everybody.
Speaker 1: Chi can yell a chinkeets screen, but when you get
Speaker 1: her alone, she's the best person on the planet. Cindy
Speaker 1: Stumpo is tough as nails.
Speaker 3: And welcome to Cindy Stumpoch have his nails on WBC
Speaker 3: News Radio ten thirty and I'm here with who Lena
Speaker 3: Grille Okay, she doesn't talk very low.
Speaker 4: Ernie Bach and Casey Sword.
Speaker 3: Okay, alrenye bio right now, give it to us.
Speaker 4: Well, let's see, I'm a Boston guy. I grew up
Speaker 4: around the area. I'm in my late sixties. I was
Speaker 4: heavily into the automotive industry. Third generation in the automotive industry.
Speaker 3: And by the way, because Ray will be listening to
Speaker 3: this third generation rape off for some reason, second generation,
Speaker 3: I said, no, no.
Speaker 4: No, yeah, third generation. And my son who is in
Speaker 4: his final year of college, which he's going to an
Speaker 4: automotive centric to learn.
Speaker 3: Yeah, generation, did you go to that class? Did you?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 4: I did not, But yeah, So I'm a I'm a
Speaker 4: local guy, you know, hanging around Boston.
Speaker 3: Okay, and then you one day decided you woke up
Speaker 3: and said what.
Speaker 4: Well, I used to own big retail automotive stores. I
Speaker 4: had the number one Honda store in the planet, the
Speaker 4: number two Toyota store in the planet, and you know,
Speaker 4: I was slugging it out there in retail for a
Speaker 4: long time. And I woke up one day and I
Speaker 4: just didn't want to do it. I wholesale SuPAR roos
Speaker 4: throughout the six states of New England.
Speaker 3: So explain them. You are the rep the super roofs.
Speaker 4: Of New England. I bring these super us over in
Speaker 4: super tankers to my port, and then I distributed them
Speaker 4: to the dealers throughout New England, the sixty five dealers
Speaker 4: throughout New England. But that's B to B. That's a
Speaker 4: B to B business.
Speaker 3: And then my own that business was your grandfather, my
Speaker 3: father's stoff father.
Speaker 4: Was in nineteen seventy one, my father started that business.
Speaker 4: And then in twenty fifteen I decided to sell all
Speaker 4: the retail stores except for Ferrari and Maserati.
Speaker 3: Now when you sold the did you sell a blue
Speaker 3: sky or you sold the real estate? Did you keep me?
Speaker 3: I did not.
Speaker 4: I always no, I did not sell the real stack.
Speaker 4: I always keep the real style. I sold the companies.
Speaker 3: Companies, yes, which is technically the sales the parts, which
Speaker 3: is which is all that.
Speaker 4: I retained the real estate. Very rarely do I sell
Speaker 4: real estate.
Speaker 3: How many thousands of square feet did you own a
Speaker 3: car dealerships just on the automologe You ever run those numbers?
Speaker 4: No? I didn't run those umbers. But if I had
Speaker 4: to run those numbers, I don't know. I'm six hundred thousand.
Speaker 3: Six hundred thousand squaffe.
Speaker 4: That's not that's funny you asked me. I've never been asked.
Speaker 3: That Questionings a square FOOTA right, you're.
Speaker 4: A builder, that's wine. Usually it's like how many vehicles?
Speaker 4: Do you say? What's the square feet? That's buildings. That's
Speaker 4: not with the land.
Speaker 3: The land is much more buildings, right, the building, Yeah,
Speaker 3: one hundred thousand square feet bout that. Yeah, so I
Speaker 3: could say I could take it, break it down. What
Speaker 3: you reant blah blah blah, what you get in the
Speaker 3: land and the parking lots.
Speaker 4: Yeah, But in the automotive industry, In the automotive industry,
Speaker 4: you rent is notoriously high. Correct, notoriously high because back
Speaker 4: in the day, the new companies today, the public companies
Speaker 4: and a lot of private automotive guys don't want to
Speaker 4: own the land. They just want to own because they
Speaker 4: just do it. They sell the land to reds and
Speaker 4: stuff like that. They don't want to own. I don't know,
Speaker 4: I don't know why. So back in the day it
Speaker 4: was the owner charging himself rent, which you know, they
Speaker 4: always were above market.
Speaker 3: But that's just robbed paper. You picked up.
Speaker 4: No, it really isn't because it forces the company. It
Speaker 4: forces the company to actually produce. You know. It's if
Speaker 4: you have a retail store and you're in a big,
Speaker 4: fancy schmancy place, the rents through the roof, which means
Speaker 4: you have to you have to make more gross profit.
Speaker 3: Okay, did you keep Lamborghini a Maasa rival once it
Speaker 3: make the least amount of mine? Right?
Speaker 4: No, really, I do have. I still own that land. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but they But the Ferrari Maserati, it's not like the
Speaker 4: automotive industry. It's more like rolling art. You know, they're
Speaker 4: not There's not many of them produced in the in
Speaker 4: the whole entire world, there's about ten thousand Ferraris a
Speaker 4: year produced. So it's it's different. It's not like when
Speaker 4: I was a Toyota deal. It was like McDonald's. I
Speaker 4: was selling thousands, thousands, tens of thousands of cars. I
Speaker 4: cracked over a thousand a month for a good run.
Speaker 3: And how many shields did you own?
Speaker 4: At one point seven or eight seven?
Speaker 3: Eight ships? And they started most of shingles started by
Speaker 3: your father.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, no, she.
Speaker 3: Was did your grandfather's dot Excuse me, how many shingles.
Speaker 4: Did your grandfather'stad one one he started with with Nash.
Speaker 4: Nash was the Nash and then Nash turned into Rambler,
Speaker 4: and then Rambler turned into American Motors. Then American Motors
Speaker 4: turned turned into Chrysler, and now you have Jeep Chrysler
Speaker 4: ram And of course the Italians owned everything. So the
Speaker 4: same people that owned Dodge own those same people that
Speaker 4: owned yeah, Dodge and all the all those other Stilantis
Speaker 4: companieses the Italians.
Speaker 3: Okay, and then your father came along, he came up,
Speaker 3: he started buying more franchise.
Speaker 4: No, what happened was is the we were back in
Speaker 4: the day the company started nineteen thirty eight, and back
Speaker 4: in the day when when when my grandfather got sick
Speaker 4: and my father came out of the army in the
Speaker 4: in the early fifties. He worked with my father with
Speaker 4: my grandfather, uh kind of father son and his brother
Speaker 4: and Boston. Back in the day, Norwood to Boston it
Speaker 4: was like a day trip. It wasn't. It wasn't like
Speaker 4: it is today. So the advertising the Boston Globe, the
Speaker 4: Record American which was the Herald, and all the advertisers
Speaker 4: would never come out to the suburbs. You had to
Speaker 4: bring your abbot, the printer, you had to bring it
Speaker 4: in so.
Speaker 3: And nobody did that better than your family.
Speaker 4: Well, it's always down. It's the the papers were treating
Speaker 4: the clients very arrogantly. They were very arrogant, and and
Speaker 4: my father soon caught onto that and basically said to himself,
Speaker 4: you know, f these guys, I'm going to be big
Speaker 4: enough where they're going to come out to me and
Speaker 4: they're going to come out and take my ads. I'm
Speaker 4: not gonna have to go all the way into Boston.
Speaker 4: They're going to come out and take the ads. And
Speaker 4: that was that was the beginning of the building. And
Speaker 4: then then by the late fifties we were the number
Speaker 4: one Nash dealership in the country.
Speaker 3: That's how it happened.
Speaker 4: That's how it happened.
Speaker 3: And then you the third generation, said I'm going to
Speaker 3: live my life and I'm going to be a rock.
Speaker 4: I came, I came in, and I came in. Actually,
Speaker 4: you know, this month is a really interesting month for
Speaker 4: me because it's the eighty sixth year of our company.
Speaker 4: It's the fortieth year of myself being in the automotive industry.
Speaker 4: When I mean in the automotive, automotive industry. I mean
Speaker 4: putting a tie on. I mean when I was a kid,
Speaker 4: I used to sweet floors and do all that other stuff.
Speaker 4: In eighty four, I put a tie on. And it's
Speaker 4: been twenty one years since my father's died, since I've
Speaker 4: been running years, twenty one years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you need to tell the listeners that listening, what
Speaker 3: do you have on your in your on your land
Speaker 3: would you build? And what would you build on your
Speaker 3: land that most people will never have?
Speaker 4: Well, I tell you, I tell you that's a that's
Speaker 4: a little that's a little bit of it. I tell
Speaker 4: this story a lot, and it's very embarrassing for me.
Speaker 4: It's very embarrassing for me, Cindy, because you're involved every
Speaker 4: time and every time I every time I see you,
Speaker 4: I harken back to this story and it just pisses
Speaker 4: me off, and you'll probably remember it. I like to
Speaker 4: build comfortable surroundings from that kind of building is not
Speaker 4: it's a passion. It's not a business.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: I do have real estate. I've done hundreds of millions
Speaker 4: of dollars worth of building, but most of them have
Speaker 4: been commercial building. And I had just finished one of
Speaker 4: my latest projects, which was my carriage House two. Correct,
Speaker 4: I have two carriage house couch and one characters too.
Speaker 4: And I was very, very very proud of carriage House two,
Speaker 4: of what I did and how I did it and
Speaker 4: everything like that. And you had been over my house
Speaker 4: for an event and I said, Cindy, let me come back,
Speaker 4: come up in and let's go. Let's go take a
Speaker 4: look at carriage house too. And we go and I
Speaker 4: go and put my hand on the door and the
Speaker 4: door handle comes off in my hand right in front
Speaker 4: of you. I almost asked my pants. I mean, I
Speaker 4: was like, oh, of anybody that this happens to, I
Speaker 4: had to do it in front of Cindy.
Speaker 3: And you know what I was just like, is that
Speaker 3: a key code? Anyways? Like can we get into a
Speaker 3: key code? But the I mean Ernie's house amazing. It
Speaker 3: truly is like we have a car. I don't even
Speaker 3: know what you want to call that auto salon, the
Speaker 3: auto salon, and then we have the we're gonna go
Speaker 3: for break and then we're gonna come right back. Hold on,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna break. This is Sydney stampo and this is
Speaker 3: top of Nails on w BZ News Radio ten thirty
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Speaker 4: Grillell, Ernie Bach and Casey Swordon.
Speaker 3: Okay, going back to the conversation, what did you build
Speaker 3: on your lands? Well, and I went in with you.
Speaker 4: And this is this is probably I assume this is
Speaker 4: what you're talking about the city. Like I said, when
Speaker 4: I when I build something, i'd have comfortable surroundings. And also,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm in my late sixties and I know
Speaker 4: I'm not going to be on this earth forever. And
Speaker 4: ever since I was a kid, I've been planning my death, hopefully, hopefully,
Speaker 4: planning for my death, like I'm not gonna you know,
Speaker 4: hopefully I go in a supernatural way. It's not like
Speaker 4: I'm going to off myself or anything. But I've always
Speaker 4: go ahead. I've always I've always assumed. I've always assumed
Speaker 4: that the end is near and and and that everybody's
Speaker 4: going to die. There's nobody going to get out of it, nobody.
Speaker 4: So why would you want to be Why would you
Speaker 4: want to be you know, buried alone or buried with strangers.
Speaker 4: You know you should and and it's kind of a
Speaker 4: it's what I'm what I'm doing, and people used to
Speaker 4: do it all the time, you know. So I so
Speaker 4: I built a mausoleum on my property, which now houses
Speaker 4: my mother, my father, and my mother's brother.
Speaker 3: Okay, this isn't a mausoleum. This is a house, okay,
Speaker 3: with music speakers going. We could have a party in there,
Speaker 3: and then there's a downstairs and upstairs the crypt. The
Speaker 3: crypt is downstairs. All I can tell you is that
Speaker 3: I was walking around going, I honest, really fun. Get
Speaker 3: me out of here right now, right, I'm so nervous.
Speaker 3: But it's nice, it's comforting.
Speaker 4: It's company, it's nice.
Speaker 3: And so you took your parents up, you took them
Speaker 3: where they were buried, and you brought them there.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I did not exum them.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, so how they did?
Speaker 4: They? They my parents chose to be cremated, okay. So
Speaker 4: and you know, I personally don't choose to be cremated.
Speaker 3: I don't need that. I'm coming back. Yeah, and it's
Speaker 3: really final, by the way, yes, and if I die,
Speaker 3: they might be a once you get into it.
Speaker 4: It's really interesting because there's three ways to get rid
Speaker 4: of a body either burn it, bury it, or buried
Speaker 4: above ground. And so if when you burn it, that's
Speaker 4: pretty easy. And then when you're buried in the ground,
Speaker 4: there's a cert and casket you have to have that
Speaker 4: does it for the liquid that comes out, for the
Speaker 4: bugs that come in. But when you're above ground, it's
Speaker 4: a whole different thing, and and and the the laws
Speaker 4: are different and everything like that. So we're above ground
Speaker 4: and yeah, I'm going to be.
Speaker 3: Above ground now, but you're at your backyard. Yeah, very different.
Speaker 3: But I tell you, it's a lot of fun over
Speaker 3: at Ernie's house at Halloween. Okay, he's got the whole
Speaker 3: thing all spooked out and.
Speaker 4: It is I love Halloween.
Speaker 3: Okay, So Ernie's like this, I don't know. It's like you, Ernie,
Speaker 3: like the big toy. You're just a guy that just
Speaker 3: doesn't age and you just have fun.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, you can't tell me my back has
Speaker 4: killed me, because.
Speaker 3: Okay, take okay to take more edvil. You do great
Speaker 3: things for people. You give a lot back. Well, thank you, right,
Speaker 3: Ernie's the guy that walks in You never know the
Speaker 3: Tippy's going to leave a waitress, right, he just always
Speaker 3: pulls a stunt out of his head. But your big
Speaker 3: cause is what what's your big Well?
Speaker 4: I have a foundation called Music Drives and thank you
Speaker 4: for bringing it up, and if you want to check
Speaker 4: it out, it's at music drives us dot org. What
Speaker 4: we try to do is you try to keep music
Speaker 4: into the schools, performances and also instruments organizations. It's a
Speaker 4: passion I've had and where we will be celebrating our
Speaker 4: twentieth year very soon.
Speaker 3: And I hope everybody understands that it brings music back
Speaker 3: into the school. So as much as you push music
Speaker 3: back into the schools, I push vocational back in the
Speaker 3: And I agree with both. Okay, I totally agree with both.
Speaker 3: We need mechanics, don't we.
Speaker 4: That's right, technicians also.
Speaker 3: Technicians, yes, problems, electricians and HVAC guys and framers and
Speaker 3: founded you name it. I am right. So you push
Speaker 3: that way and I push vocational. What do you guys
Speaker 3: got coming up? Casey, go ahead, gimme it. What's going
Speaker 3: on about the So.
Speaker 5: We're we're rocking and rolling over at the Box Center,
Speaker 5: which has been a huge passion of Ernie's for a
Speaker 5: long time, and I'm just coming on new as the
Speaker 5: new CEO, and great, great things are happening at the
Speaker 5: Box Center this fall. We've got every We've got comedy,
Speaker 5: we've got family performances, we've got rock and roll.
Speaker 4: We've got it all.
Speaker 3: Well, we always got rock and roll when it comes
Speaker 3: to any The.
Speaker 4: Box Center, just for people that don't know, is two theaters.
Speaker 4: A thirty five hundred you talk more than you No,
Speaker 4: No's okay, I'm just laying it down to hand it
Speaker 4: to Casey. It's a thirty five hundred seat theater. It
Speaker 4: will be one hundred years old next year. And across
Speaker 4: the street is a fifteen hundred seat theater. And Casey
Speaker 4: is the new guy. After thirty eight years, our former
Speaker 4: CEO has retired and Casey has taken over. Welcome Casey,
Speaker 4: thank you wording.
Speaker 3: So we're going to have a place to go hang
Speaker 3: out when we want to watch whatever being whatever, whoever
Speaker 3: you bring, whatever art you're bringing into that place. Give
Speaker 3: me the what you see coming down the road there,
Speaker 3: that's a visual.
Speaker 5: So the visual and in addition to what you see
Speaker 5: on the stage, the Box Center is more than just
Speaker 5: what you see on our stages, which is one hundred
Speaker 5: and fifty two hundred shows a year. But in addition
Speaker 5: to that, the Box Center is a place for everyone
Speaker 5: in our community. We have education programs for young people.
Speaker 5: We give kids, inner city kids, summer jobs. We train
Speaker 5: them in musical theater and dance and other art forms.
Speaker 5: And we're really inspired by the arts. And I was
Speaker 5: an arts kid like Ernie was. You know, I fell
Speaker 5: in love with playing music at a young age.
Speaker 3: And that's the crazy pot. He was an AASI kid,
Speaker 3: love music, but kind of had to go into the
Speaker 3: filming business.
Speaker 4: Well you got to make a living, You got to
Speaker 4: make a living exactly.
Speaker 5: But one of the reasons Ernie's been so successful is
Speaker 5: that creative background that he has. Starts foundationally when you're
Speaker 5: playing music as a kid, and that helps you in
Speaker 5: whatever industry that you're in.
Speaker 3: If you had a do over, Ernie, do you think
Speaker 3: that you went to made out there as a rock
Speaker 3: and roller? No?
Speaker 4: Absolutely no, absolutely not. I if I would do anything
Speaker 4: over it, maybe it would have to do with relationships
Speaker 4: or something like that, but I would.
Speaker 3: Not that we do reover.
Speaker 4: I would do that reover many times alone.
Speaker 3: I know, but here we have like you were supposed
Speaker 3: to go for dinner last month and we didn't do it. No,
Speaker 3: I know, we're still we're still with that person. Oh
Speaker 3: here we go, all right?
Speaker 4: Well, yes I don't but anyway, No, I would not
Speaker 4: change the thing. And you know it's cool about about
Speaker 4: having some sort of musical background. Is the Subaru commercials
Speaker 4: that you hear and see on TV in New England.
Speaker 4: There's two distinct commercials. There's a factory commercial with the
Speaker 4: Subaru of America and the Subaru of New England. So
Speaker 4: all those cool ads you see with the with the
Speaker 4: music and the and the different jingles and everything like that,
Speaker 4: we do that all in house. And a Valerio my partner.
Speaker 4: We write him. He does most of the heavy lifting
Speaker 4: and then when I can, I play on him. The
Speaker 4: new electric Subaru commercial that's running right now, it's electric.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you see it, but that's me
Speaker 4: on guitar. So the melding of what you love to
Speaker 4: do with business was was a natural thing for me.
Speaker 3: But you love music. Look at we've been to parties
Speaker 3: at your hangar with I think the last one was
Speaker 3: who Aris was playing there? No Perry Joe Perry.
Speaker 4: Joe Perry has played at the end of the year,
Speaker 4: I do a do a musical.
Speaker 3: Event to in the airplane hanger by the way, to.
Speaker 4: Raise money for music drives. I say, we've had many,
Speaker 4: many national acts come in and do it. And as
Speaker 4: a matter of fact, at the end of this year,
Speaker 4: we have Keifer Sutherlan coming in, you know, the actor
Speaker 4: of course, Yeah, he's coming in. He's got a band.
Speaker 4: He's actually excellent.
Speaker 3: He's playing in a band.
Speaker 4: He has a band.
Speaker 3: When you look at how many band members, I don't know, Like, well,
Speaker 3: now we got Steve Taler, he's retired. They've now come
Speaker 3: off right because he lost his voice or whatever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. I can't. I can't call Montan
Speaker 4: I not to.
Speaker 3: Get can wait. I can't either at this point. But
Speaker 3: people ask me all that question all the time. Okay,
Speaker 3: to go back. What are we doing? We having some
Speaker 3: fundraises coming up, What are we doing for the Box Center?
Speaker 3: Anything that a city needs to know about.
Speaker 5: We've got all kinds of great stuff, you know for
Speaker 5: our holiday season this year, we've got The Grinch who
Speaker 5: Stole Christmas the musical is coming in for seventeen performances.
Speaker 4: It's going to be fantastic. We've got comedy.
Speaker 5: We've got Kevin Hart coming in, Taylor Tomlinson's coming in
Speaker 5: doing three shows in February. We've got ted Esky Trucks
Speaker 5: Band and Graham Nash coming up in a few weeks.
Speaker 5: That's good, so, you know, all kinds of you know, really,
Speaker 5: I'm really proud of the programming that we have there
Speaker 5: because there's something for everybody. If you look at our calendar,
Speaker 5: you'll find something for everybody. So we're very excited about
Speaker 5: the season. And part of what we do is raise money.
Speaker 5: We do we do fundraisers, we do corporate events, we
Speaker 5: do weddings. There's something in there all the time we're
Speaker 5: promoting a new exhibit with our I don't.
Speaker 3: Think Ernie does anything to make money anymore. I think
Speaker 3: does everything to raise money.
Speaker 4: One five oh one c three. We do shows to
Speaker 4: bring moneies in to give back to the community. That's
Speaker 4: what that's what we do. That's right.
Speaker 3: Okay, We got a question there for Ernie. What's the question.
Speaker 6: What do you see as the biggest challenges facing the
Speaker 6: automotive industry today and how is your business preparing to
Speaker 6: address them?
Speaker 4: The biggest challenge of the automotive industry today is the indeciphive,
Speaker 4: indecisiveness of the government, and they are eating.
Speaker 3: Wait call that thought, because we're gonna go to break
Speaker 3: and then we're coming right back on that one. It's
Speaker 3: gonna be good. This is Simmy Stumble You loosen the
Speaker 3: Toughest Nails on WBZ News Radio ten thirty.
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Speaker 3: thirty And I'm Sydney. I'm here with Lena Grillo and.
Speaker 4: Ernie Box and Casey Sword.
Speaker 3: Okay, go ahead, pick it up. That was a question.
Speaker 3: Ask the question again, what do you see is.
Speaker 6: The biggest challenges facing the automotive industry today and how
Speaker 6: is your business preparing to address them?
Speaker 4: I think the biggest problem with the automotive industry today
Speaker 4: is the indecisiveness of the government when it comes to
Speaker 4: EVS electric vehicles. The mandates were unreasonable the manufacturers, some
Speaker 4: manufacturers jumped on him lost literally billions of dollars because
Speaker 4: of it, and they didn't really let the market speak
Speaker 4: what do the people want. That's what we should be
Speaker 4: concerned with. We shouldn't be concerned with what the government
Speaker 4: wants us to drive. We should be concerned with what
Speaker 4: the people that are purchasing these vehicles want to drive.
Speaker 4: So what is shooken out is those edicts are just
Speaker 4: starting to gets softer and the manufacturers are realizing that
Speaker 4: it is ev is. The US is not ready for
Speaker 4: total EVS right now, for a pletheter plethoda, whatever the
Speaker 4: word is, for reasons, they just it's just not ready.
Speaker 4: But what we are ready for and what is extremely
Speaker 4: popular is of course the ice engines, the the internal
Speaker 4: combustion engines and hybrids. Hybrids are a logical solution to
Speaker 4: what the government wants and what people will put up with.
Speaker 4: So forty seven percent of all toyotas in New England
Speaker 4: last month or hybrid vehicles, and so that is really
Speaker 4: where we're going to. And hybrid vehicles are only an
Speaker 4: interm technology. The endgame is hydrogen. We will be running
Speaker 4: on hydrogen, not on electricity today, not on gas. We
Speaker 4: will be running on hydrogen. Really, that's what I think.
Speaker 3: Okay, So you believe, like I believe, governments stay out
Speaker 3: of our lives as go. So I keep saying, stay
Speaker 3: out of my life, keep me safe, to live my mail,
Speaker 3: I'll pay my taxes. I mean.
Speaker 4: Electric vehicles are good for some people. Some people it's perfect.
Speaker 4: You don't go too far from home, little short hops.
Speaker 4: It's a great thing, but it's not for everybody.
Speaker 3: We have now lost our gas man. We cannot have
Speaker 3: any fossil fuel in Newton Brookline.
Speaker 4: I heard about that. That's a whole other day.
Speaker 3: And wait for the first lawsuit of when I build
Speaker 3: an electric house. They don't know what I'm doing right
Speaker 3: electric you're taking that right away again?
Speaker 4: And how are they providing that electricity?
Speaker 3: Oh? I don't know. Oh, okay, do you go there?
Speaker 3: You go right there? And by the way, how's the
Speaker 3: gree going to handle it? Tell me? Tell me? Oh,
Speaker 3: by the way, we're going to add a generator. What
Speaker 3: propane is going to run the generator? Right? So the
Speaker 3: only place you can have a generator is I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: pain's not going to run the generator. The electric's gonna
Speaker 3: run the generator. How's that going to happen? By the way,
Speaker 3: when the power goes love propane And the only place
Speaker 3: you can have propane is on your gas fireplace, outside
Speaker 3: gas grill. We could have propane for that, but you
Speaker 3: know what's going to happen is people are going to
Speaker 3: run the propane to the main part of their kitchen,
Speaker 3: put on the stovetop. And hear me out, Folks, if
Speaker 3: you think you're gonna get away with something sneaky, you're
Speaker 3: not because the minute your house of God for Big
Speaker 3: catched on fire, they're not going to pay your claim
Speaker 3: because they knew you shouldn't have had that propane. Come
Speaker 3: to that case.
Speaker 4: We want to abide by the laws, no matter how ridiculous,
Speaker 4: because we we're a country of laws, and we should
Speaker 4: abide by the laws. If we don't like them, we
Speaker 4: should change them.
Speaker 3: And how do we do that?
Speaker 4: Elections? Elections?
Speaker 3: How's that looking? Okay, that's another conversation on the day. Okay, Casey,
Speaker 3: keep going, honey, talk to us more about the box set.
Speaker 5: So one of the really really neat initiatives of the
Speaker 5: Box Center in the last couple of years is we
Speaker 5: call it farhaf right Ernie the Folk Roots Americana Hall
Speaker 5: of Fame. Yes, and that initiative we have taken the
Speaker 5: Wang Theater, which is one of the most beautiful theaters
Speaker 5: in the world, and we have adorned its walls with
Speaker 5: artifacts related to the history of music, both in Boston
Speaker 5: and all over the country. With this exhibit, it's very exciting.
Speaker 3: You have a question, what's the question for Casey?
Speaker 6: Casey, With the increasing role of technology in the arts,
Speaker 6: how do you envision the future of live performances. Do
Speaker 6: you see a role for digital or hybrid performance in theater?
Speaker 4: It's a great question.
Speaker 3: Next time you keep talking to stay on the mic,
Speaker 3: don't pull away, because then your voice goes like this,
Speaker 3: I'm not this thing as sociated. Go ahead.
Speaker 5: So we had a crash during COVID where we weren't
Speaker 5: able to have audiences inside of theaters, and the technology
Speaker 5: really came a long way. So we were live streaming
Speaker 5: artists on theater stages during COVID with no audiences and
Speaker 5: the only audience was at home. And I think that
Speaker 5: the there are certain areas where that is going to stick,
Speaker 5: and then there's certain areas where it's not, where there's
Speaker 5: no replacement for the live performance. But you know, you know,
Speaker 5: certain like jam bands or one area where people will
Speaker 5: you know, they'll watch bands like A Dead and Company
Speaker 5: or fish.
Speaker 4: People will tune in.
Speaker 5: For all over the world for the for those shows.
Speaker 5: So certain bands that have you know that are kind
Speaker 5: of doing a different show every night. A lot of
Speaker 5: artists go on tour and they do the same show.
Speaker 5: Ernie knows this every single night. It's the same set list.
Speaker 5: But then there's bands that have a new show every night.
Speaker 5: Those are the bands I think that are doing really,
Speaker 5: really well with live streaming. So it's been an evolving technology.
Speaker 5: It's exciting to watch, and I think there is a
Speaker 5: future in it for sure. With certain bands.
Speaker 3: It's fine. Next week and I have a country singer
Speaker 3: come in that took his song to number one without
Speaker 3: a record label. Yeah, it's gonna be a great story.
Speaker 3: He's number one in country music right now playing across
Speaker 3: the country.
Speaker 4: I'm not that familiar. And then I like country that
Speaker 4: familiar with that.
Speaker 3: I just always like it. I just like everything. But
Speaker 3: you know, I'm a rock and roll girl. I just
Speaker 3: love rock and roll right that gets me going disco? Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 3: soft rock thousand percent. Once in nineties hit Up was like, eh,
Speaker 3: then two thousands.
Speaker 4: I like the I just saw a son Temple Pilots
Speaker 4: the other night. They were spectacular. You like spccacula. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you just like the best.
Speaker 3: What's that? Eighties?
Speaker 6: Eighties?
Speaker 3: Well yeah, and you're not an eighties girl, you're a.
Speaker 4: Nineties spandexs eighties like Poison and all those guys spank eighties. Yeah,
Speaker 4: the long champions fun music.
Speaker 3: I just want to know how many year extensions they're
Speaker 3: all wearing now, all of them are wearing them. By
Speaker 3: the way, seventies seventies rock. I like seventies seventies rock
Speaker 3: guy myself, even though I was only I was born
Speaker 3: sixty four, so I was ten by seventy four. But
Speaker 3: it was soft rock, it was rock, it was everything.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. We grew up with the best ground of music.
Speaker 3: We had it all, if you really think about it.
Speaker 3: We had Motown, we had rocked, we had soft rock,
Speaker 3: we had hot rock rock, we went into the disco era.
Speaker 3: What didn't we have? These kids have one music today?
Speaker 3: I know, like all terrible words like every second.
Speaker 4: And what's crazy about today? Being being here right now?
Speaker 4: The rock stars when I was a kid are the
Speaker 4: same rock stars. Granted, Jeff Beck just died, some of
Speaker 4: them are leaving, but Joe Perry and Rod Stewart and
Speaker 4: all these they're still a Paul McCartney. If you want
Speaker 4: to go see Paul McCartney, you can go see Paul
Speaker 4: McCartney The Rolling Stones. I think it's spectacular, it's funny.
Speaker 3: My kids love that music.
Speaker 4: Good.
Speaker 3: Now will it stop when they have children? That would
Speaker 3: be the big one. No, No, you don't think so,
Speaker 3: not at all. The who all the old.
Speaker 6: Studs that I watched, all the music that I grew
Speaker 6: up on from my parents or my grandparents will all
Speaker 6: be passed on.
Speaker 3: So I got to tell you something what I've noticed.
Speaker 3: If you watched if you watch Instagram right and your
Speaker 3: algorithm goes to where you want it, all the old
Speaker 3: music is coming out with the roller skaters and the
Speaker 3: long borders and all that on the West Coast. Off
Speaker 3: our music. You mean classic rock, classic rock, motown, the.
Speaker 4: Movie soundtracks, some of the most popular movie soundtracks and
Speaker 4: the last over the last ten years have all been
Speaker 4: classic rock.
Speaker 3: But if you watch what's really going on coming out
Speaker 3: of the West Coast, these skaters, and it's crazy, they're
Speaker 3: just they're everything. But they're just dancing a different way
Speaker 3: than we did. But they got to go. They got
Speaker 3: it going on, They got it going on. It's awesome.
Speaker 3: It's awesome to see roll skating back big time. We
Speaker 3: don't see it here in Boston West Coast.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I thought we already did that. Didn't we
Speaker 4: do that?
Speaker 3: In like the Lace It was called spinoff?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, my father on that place. Okay, I was a
Speaker 3: skate guy with the whistle. Okay, how are we looking
Speaker 3: back in those crazy days of the eighties? Okay, it
Speaker 3: was well fun days, by the way. Good do you
Speaker 3: have any of the questions from those Okay, did Nelson
Speaker 3: come in the room? By the way, he left his
Speaker 3: phone somewhere and left. That's like the craziest thing. Okay,
Speaker 3: So you talk to me, keep going, talk to me
Speaker 3: about what else coming up? Pierre.
Speaker 5: So we were talking a little bit about the Hall
Speaker 5: of Fame. You want to talk a little bit about
Speaker 5: the Hall of Fame already?
Speaker 4: Yeah, far Haff Farhoff. The Folks Folk Americana Roots Hall
Speaker 4: of Fame is going to be based is based in Boston.
Speaker 4: If you recall the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame,
Speaker 4: which is in Cleveland, it took years and years and
Speaker 4: years just to get it off the ground. We think
Speaker 4: we hit the ground running with Farhoff and we're very
Speaker 4: much interested in showing the roots of that type of music.
Speaker 4: Boston was a big hotbed of it back then, and is,
Speaker 4: you know, part of the fabric of the of society.
Speaker 4: It's folk Americana roots music is spectacular.
Speaker 5: It is, I mean, it really is. It's a unique
Speaker 5: music of our area and of our country. And we're
Speaker 5: excited to have the Wang Theater be a host to ett.
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Speaker 3: you can't beat that.
Speaker 4: Let me tell you these err Smith bumpers. He's a
Speaker 4: spectacular tyler. Sounds like a little kid.
Speaker 3: Come on, you can't beat that.
Speaker 4: I love that.
Speaker 3: That Sorry.
Speaker 4: If you want to see Aerosmith the type of stuff,
Speaker 4: check out the Joe Perry Project. Joe's well, he's gonna
Speaker 4: keep going, keep going.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely so He's he'll be in the studio too,
Speaker 3: so he's, uh, he's gonna keep going long.
Speaker 4: I think so absolutely.
Speaker 3: It's just that music. It's that music that just gets okay.
Speaker 3: I can't speak for everybody gets me going.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Joe's in a band called the Hollywood Vampires, which
Speaker 4: is Joe Perry, Alice Cooper, Tommy hendricksonning with them, and
Speaker 4: Johnny Depth. I get to hang around with them for
Speaker 4: a bit, but they're they're they're at your house. They're coming,
Speaker 4: they're coming out there, they're going to be they're doing
Speaker 4: a European tour and and hopefully an American these guys.
Speaker 4: Johnny's actually a great guitar player. Really, it's actually he's Yeah,
Speaker 4: I think it's I think it's Let me tell you
Speaker 4: if if if you're playing with Alice Cooper and you're
Speaker 4: playing with Joe Perry, you have your musicianship has to
Speaker 4: be there because they won't tolerate it. I don't care
Speaker 4: how many movies you've.
Speaker 3: Made, doesn't matter how old is Perry.
Speaker 4: Now about Joe, I don't know, you have to look
Speaker 4: it up, but he looks good now. He looks good.
Speaker 3: He looks good. Kind of all are good, even know
Speaker 3: it's rock and roll of state Lean, how's that possible.
Speaker 4: I think it's a metabolism.
Speaker 3: I really do well on stage.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's a metallian. Plus, they're all crazy anyway,
Speaker 4: and that kind of.
Speaker 3: Aren't we all kind of crazy? This good crazy and
Speaker 3: bad crazy. I just want every note. When Ernie has
Speaker 3: a party in his house and we go there, Ray
Speaker 3: just loves to sit and watch the people when they
Speaker 3: come in go right fall into the pool as they
Speaker 3: head to the bar. It's a crazy thing you've ever seen. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Ernie's gotten into a pool. Let me let me set
Speaker 3: the scene up as a builder and at the end
Speaker 3: of the pool there's a bar, right and then people
Speaker 3: stop backing up on the bar and people just walk
Speaker 3: in like they don't see the pool, and Ray just
Speaker 3: the thing goes. I guarantee you three people going to
Speaker 3: the pool next hour.
Speaker 4: It's a funny thing. It's a funny thing because one
Speaker 4: time I had an event there and I had to
Speaker 4: literally announce to people this is a pool.
Speaker 3: I don't know what they think that is a pool.
Speaker 4: Because people I think it's I think it's much like
Speaker 4: a casino. When you walk around the casino, your eyes
Speaker 4: onto the floor, your eyes are level and up exactly.
Speaker 4: People just they just walk right in. When you walk
Speaker 4: into something like that, you don't expect a pool. And
Speaker 4: when you don't expect something.
Speaker 3: The ceilings how high? Yeah, you're not paying attention. I
Speaker 3: don't know five feet high? Right, and they're heading to
Speaker 3: the barn. Always wants to do is sit and watch
Speaker 3: people fall in the pool. Like he thinks that he
Speaker 3: actually sits there, he goes, I guarantee to what people
Speaker 3: going to fall in the pool. Guys get out, they
Speaker 3: come out there and they're pulling their money out of there,
Speaker 3: but they literally don't see the pool.
Speaker 4: But that but that that was at the beginning. That
Speaker 4: was aw that was last summer. Yeah, okay, well now
Speaker 4: they know. Now they know there's.
Speaker 3: The guy went boat right down in there. It's actually fun.
Speaker 3: Do you have a question? Okay, wait then let it
Speaker 3: take it because she's on the mic.
Speaker 6: Ernie, you are known for your extensive charitable work. What
Speaker 6: drives there philanthropic efforts? And how do you decide which causes.
Speaker 3: Can you finish? When you talk miss co host, she's new.
Speaker 4: I think I think people. I think people, no matter
Speaker 4: what level that you give give back or do charitable contributions.
Speaker 4: That everybody does something that they are passionate about. I
Speaker 4: think that. And when I get involved with something, it's
Speaker 4: something I really care about. Or if I discover something
Speaker 4: and I say, oh, I never knew this, this is terrible.
Speaker 4: Let me let me try and help out. I think.
Speaker 4: I think it's passion and it's also a it's it's
Speaker 4: a very human thing to do, you know, it's but.
Speaker 3: That's not true. No, No, we both know guys that
Speaker 3: are very, very wealthy and don't give nothing back. So
Speaker 3: that's not true.
Speaker 4: Okay, I don't know that.
Speaker 3: That's just you. That's your money, all right, so give
Speaker 3: yourself that a boy in the back, right, all right. Well,
Speaker 3: I know a lot of guys that are worth a
Speaker 3: couple of days and they don't do.
Speaker 4: That's to me, that's unheard of.
Speaker 3: That is that is crazy.
Speaker 4: That is crazy, absolutely crazy.
Speaker 3: They think they're taking it with them when they die.
Speaker 3: I guess, yeah, Well they have this fear of being
Speaker 3: poor again. If that makes any sense.
Speaker 4: It does make sense, say, especially if you if you
Speaker 4: didn't come from money and you make a lot of money.
Speaker 4: It's what did they used to call it? They call
Speaker 4: it depression? Baby, syndrome.
Speaker 3: Is that? What is yah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, the kids that grew up during the depression and
Speaker 4: then made money as they got older because they invented
Speaker 4: something to work.
Speaker 3: About guys my age, we never went through depression?
Speaker 4: Well, the older guys, the older guys, the generation or
Speaker 4: two about us?
Speaker 3: What about what about our generation of mine? Right now?
Speaker 4: There's no excuse. Let's bring them in here and take
Speaker 4: them to task.
Speaker 3: I do it all the time. I need money for
Speaker 3: what cause? Now whatever I tell you, write a check,
Speaker 3: period and the story. But no, you'd be amazed. So
Speaker 3: don't just think that people with wealth just give money away.
Speaker 3: They don't. I'm watching it. That are guys that are
Speaker 3: my age that have hit the B mark. Give me
Speaker 3: fifty thousand for a hospital for you know, researcher. It's
Speaker 3: like pot like seriously. But then when they need something
Speaker 3: from me at rigams, Cindy, can you get yeah, stroke
Speaker 3: a check and next time give me a check right now.
Speaker 3: I know you're in the emergency room dying, but give
Speaker 3: me a check right now. So when I call and
Speaker 3: get you right in with that person, they did help you.
Speaker 4: I do interesting. Well. I encourage everybody if you can.
Speaker 3: Give when you give out during COVID cap going that
Speaker 3: Mic No, he closed down a gas station earning road
Speaker 3: Joe's and No, which she's an nowod girl by the way.
Speaker 3: She grew up in We won't we won't hold that
Speaker 3: against them.
Speaker 4: We're getting very locally here.
Speaker 6: What part of like when we were younger, all our
Speaker 6: kids like Ernie Junior's house, like we used.
Speaker 2: To love it.
Speaker 4: We're part of oid over by Shaws Shaws. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yep, yep.
Speaker 4: That used to be the I think that used to
Speaker 4: be an A and P and then it was a
Speaker 4: stopping shop and now it's shots.
Speaker 6: I've been there.
Speaker 3: Let me get this straight. So you'd walk by Ernie
Speaker 3: Box Junior Junior's.
Speaker 6: House complex that is right near your house.
Speaker 3: Let's not dock some completely, but go ahead.
Speaker 6: Yeah. I had friends there, so I would go there
Speaker 6: all the time. But even just driving by, everyone would
Speaker 6: be like.
Speaker 3: Did you want to peek to the gates and jump
Speaker 3: over the wall? We did you peak to the gates?
Speaker 6: Look like in there.
Speaker 4: I don't go out that all.
Speaker 3: Did you ever go over there for Halloween? They leave candys.
Speaker 6: Halloween is always.
Speaker 3: A great place for the kids.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Halloween's good you know what I learned about Halloween
Speaker 4: because I do. I you know, I opened my house
Speaker 4: to Halloween and give the kids candy and everything like that.
Speaker 4: And this is nothing against the parents, nothing against the parents,
Speaker 4: but there's quite a bit of drinking. There's quite a
Speaker 4: bit of drinking because the parents always accompany the kids.
Speaker 4: The kids come in, they grab all the candy, and
Speaker 4: then the wave of alcohol smell comes before the parents
Speaker 4: get there. You're kidding me, No, I didn't. I would
Speaker 4: shocked myself.
Speaker 3: You're going out Hallow for Halloween with your kids and
Speaker 3: you're drunk. Well, oh you're drinking.
Speaker 4: No, we didn't say that. Yeah, I'm just surprised that
Speaker 4: there's so much drinking around Halloween. Really, I thought it
Speaker 4: was like Christmas and New Year's and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: Halloween's for children.
Speaker 6: A house around my grandmother's neighborhood last year was handing
Speaker 6: out alcohol for the adults.
Speaker 3: What.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's a good idea. I like that.
Speaker 3: Welcome to the city of Now that's a town. No,
Speaker 3: it's a town, right, town. Ernie just owns all the
Speaker 3: land him. You just bought up all your houses around
Speaker 3: you and then that's it. Like, that's it. But now
Speaker 3: hold on now that I love mass Us too. As
Speaker 3: much as I don't like the all the crazy policies,
Speaker 3: I'm still a mask girl and I'm not leaving here.
Speaker 3: I'll go to Florida like you, back and forth. But
Speaker 3: I like it here too. I know it's crazy. The
Speaker 3: weather is lousy, but grounded. It seems like we're more grounded.
Speaker 3: It's a grounded I love the cold, I love the crazy.
Speaker 4: I absolutely love when it's cold, just because it's because
Speaker 4: it's we already had the hot, we already had the warm.
Speaker 4: Now it's time for cold, and we go to then
Speaker 4: we go to warm again, then we go to hot,
Speaker 4: and then we go to warm and it's cold. I
Speaker 4: love it, man, So exciting to you, yeah, very exciting.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right. So yep, she grew up in nood
Speaker 3: the X of mine grew up and know it. I
Speaker 3: know it all around me. Yeah. That's actually kind of
Speaker 3: funny because you're gonna marry Chad. You're from nowhere too.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmmm.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So you're you gonna get married in Saint Catherine's.
Speaker 3: No, No, why is that the big? Uh church? You
Speaker 3: know it?
Speaker 4: Beautiful church? Beautiful church? Is it gothic, big, beautiful gothic.
Speaker 3: You know I like the gothic look very nice. Oh,
Speaker 3: you might have to check that one out. And then
Speaker 3: what everybody to Boston always got that stupid thing in
Speaker 3: my face? Can you stop that thing? Like just I
Speaker 3: don't know what, you know what, I'm gonna bring it
Speaker 3: to the studio. I'm going to bring those things that
Speaker 3: you throw what do they call dots, and I'm just
Speaker 3: gonna dot you out. Okay, we'll go out for break.
Speaker 3: Is there any more questions over there before we go
Speaker 3: to break? Okay, so go stop the question before I
Speaker 3: go up to break.
Speaker 6: Ernie, do you have any archived footage that we can
Speaker 6: run his content on chatter and maybe take donations to
Speaker 6: your nonprofit?
Speaker 3: Okay, hold that thought. We gotta go for great. Sorry,
Speaker 3: I'm not the bad guy here. I'm really not. My
Speaker 3: producer is the bad guy. I'm Sidney Stumping. You listen
Speaker 3: to Toughest Nails on w BZ News Radio ten thirty
Speaker 3: and'll be right back to can come and welcome back
Speaker 3: to Toughest Nails on w BZ News Radio ten thirty
Speaker 3: And I'm Cindy Stump and I'm here with how are
Speaker 3: you up, Lena.
Speaker 4: Grillo and Ernie Bach and Casey Sword.
Speaker 6: Okay, the question was what fast Ernie, do you have
Speaker 6: any archived footage that we could run as content on
Speaker 6: chatter and maybe take donations to your nonproduct.
Speaker 4: Absolutely? Absolutely. You can go to music drives list dot
Speaker 4: org and everything is there and.
Speaker 3: If we need some stuff, I'll get a phone, okay, Casey.
Speaker 5: So to support the Box Center and all of our
Speaker 5: great things we're doing in the community, if you go
Speaker 5: to boxcenter dot org you can find all of our
Speaker 5: information and boxcenter dot org slash donate to support our mission.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Okay, you know I love you Ry.
Speaker 4: Yes, Yes, I love you too, Sandy.
Speaker 3: And you have a great everybody, have a great, safe weekend.
Speaker 3: We'll see you next say night. This is Cindy Stumbo
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