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Speaker 1: This is a podcast from Minute Media. Hello everybody, and

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welcome back to the Shirley You Can't Be Serious podcast. Boy,

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oh boy, do we have a matchup for you today.

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My friends two mammoth movies from nineteen eighty seven. We

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are continuing with our summer of eighty seven and we

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are comparing RoboCop versus Predator.

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Speaker 2: Two movies that will not die.

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Speaker 1: If it leads, we can't kill it.

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Speaker 2: I ain't got time to bleed.

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Speaker 1: Dead or alive.

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Speaker 3: You're coming with me?

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Speaker 1: I'd buy that for a dollar. Well, everybody, welcome back

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to the Shirley you Can't Be Serious Podcast. We have

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a new executive producer for today, mister Jeff Johnson, friend

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of ours from the Film Buy Podcast, has decided to

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become a Patreon member and so he is the executive

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producer today. I want everybody to go and check out

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the a Film Buy Podcast. They go and they take

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awesome directors and look at their lesser known movies and

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sometimes that means the better movies. And they also have

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been doing a series on nineteen eighty six which you've

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gotten to do a couple.

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Speaker 2: Episodes for him on Yeah, just become a good friend

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of ours. I've done Legal Eagles with him. He also

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had me on to do the hitcher.

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Speaker 1: Oh right, now, that one is supposed to be really good.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, it's so good. I've done Under the Cherry

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Moon with him, I'm so sorry, which hasn't dropped yet.

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I'm super excited about that one. And then he's having

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me back to do Night of the Creeps.

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Speaker 1: All right, Jeff can't tell you how much we appreciate you. Listener.

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If you would like to be an executive producer of

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one of our episodes, just go over to our Patreon

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R e l y podcast, and for as little as

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five bucks a month, you can become one of our

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Patreon members, makes you an executive producer. There are free

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gifts that come along and for every Patreon member. We

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have just started doing a new thing where we cover

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a one hit wonder of the eighties, deep dive into

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their story whatever it might be. We've done Frankie goes

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to Hollywood and Relax. We've done the Buggles and Video

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Killed the Radio Star. We've got Snead, O'Connor and Prince

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coming up with nothing compares to you. So if you're

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interested in that, be sure and go to our Patreon page.

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Speaker 2: Also, I'm trying to talk you into a bonus Patreon

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episode long Tail Sally with its connection to Predator. I

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thought it'd be kind of fun to drop a bonus episode.

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So maybe a couple of bonus episodes coming your.

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Speaker 1: Way summer of nineteen eighty seven, Predator versus RoboCop.

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Speaker 2: Thirty five freaking years ago.

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Speaker 4: Any special message for all the kids watching it home,

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stay out of.

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Speaker 1: Trouble, all right. Our story begins in the office of

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an employee of twentieth Century Fox named Michael Levy. Okay,

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Michael Levy has no movie credits to his name. Okay,

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but there's a script that gets slid under his door. Yes,

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and he's like, why would anyone hand me a script?

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I'm literally a low man on the totem pole at

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this company. Well, I guess I'll read it. And so

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he reads it and he's like, dang, this is good.

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Uh huh, I think I should pass this on. So

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the story is Jim and John Thomas, brothers had gotten

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together to write this script that they wanted to call

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The Hunter.

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Speaker 2: These two brothers had heard this joke floating around Hollywood

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that if they were going to make another Rocky movie

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that Rocky was going to have to fight et to

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have anything new, and so they came up with this

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idea that Rocky was going to have to battle an alien.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I've heard that. Yeah, total urban myth. What

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it is a total over myth because the way that

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the story goes is that, you know, Rocky had beaten Apollo,

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Rocky had beaten Club or Lang, and so now it

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was He's got to go across the ocean and fight

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the big you know, steroids man from Russia. And now

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that he's beaten that guy and turned all of the

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Soviets over to cheering for him, the only other thing

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that he can fight in the universe is an alien.

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 1: The only problem is Rocky four came out in nineteen

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eighty five, and this script was written in nineteen eighty three.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you're crushing me right now. I thought that was

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a really cool thing. It is a really cool thing,

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and it is a well known urban myth. It was

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the joke, but it's all just an urban Oh you're

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killing me. Okay. So the Thomas Brothers came up with

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this idea, whether or not its urban legend or not

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kind of undecided, right, But the idea that there is

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an alien race who is coming to hunt the most

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dangerous animal. Yeah, and the most dangerous animal is man,

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and the most dangerous man is a commando soldier if

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it beads, and so that was kind of their idea.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And actually Arnold Schwarzenegger is the guy who said, I

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don't want it just to be mono imano. I want

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to have a team of tough guys.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry you, Wikipedia, I am reading on your parade.

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The original script was it was also he was with

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Arnold Schwarzenegger character Dutch was with a team of guys

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from the get go. The actual change that occurred was

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that it was also supposed to be a team of predators.

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need to make it one predator. But yeah, the Commando

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team was always a team. It was never a one

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on one. Wikipedia or Arnold Schwarzenegger maybe lying.

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Speaker 2: I heard Arnold Schwarzenegger himself, yeah say that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, apparently that.

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Speaker 5: Is not true.

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Speaker 2: It's all dang well, I can tell you something that

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is true. Jean Claude Vandolph was the Predator at one point. Yes, yeah,

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we talk about that here in a minute.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we definitely need to talk about.

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Speaker 4: That, Okay.

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Speaker 1: So Michael Levy gets this script and he's like, Okay,

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I got to get this to somebody. I'm a little

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confused as to whether he gave it to Joel Silver

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and Joel Silver got it to Lawrence Gordon, or whether

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he gave it to Lawrence Gordon and Lawrence Gordon gave

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it to Joel Silver. But either way, those two guys

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had partnered multiple times in the past on some epic

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action movies, and at the time, Lawrence Gordon was the

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president of Fox, so that's a pretty big deal. Sure.

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And then they decide to team up with this guy

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named John Davis and his brand new film company called

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Davis Entertainment. Now you probably haven't heard of John Davis,

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but he has produced a ton of movies that you

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would know. I'm not going to get into all of those,

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but Predator was his first one. Second one was Three

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o'clock High. I could go on from there and I

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would go for hours, but.

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Speaker 2: Three o'clock High, Yeah, one of my all time favorite

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underrated eighties Gems also came out summer of nineteen eighty seven.

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Love It.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So here's the rabbit hole. I went down with

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John Davis, and I told you that when you watch

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the DVD commentary. He's the guy who's like, well, they

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were all working out and they told me to come work,

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and he's just he looks like George Costanza. I mean,

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he really does, and he's like, So I decided to

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work out with him, and then they kept saying, do more.

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What's wrong with you? What's wrong?

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Speaker 3: And so I did more.

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Speaker 1: Next day I couldn't move. So so this guy he

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forms this production company. They're right out of the box.

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like a pretty impressive thing until I learned his dad

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actually owned twenty century Fox.

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Speaker 2: Oh well that helps.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well I don't know how much that played into

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Speaker 2: Oh come on, okay, but here's this Harry boy by

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the way, real quick. Working out with Arnold Schwarzenegger, Carl Weathers,

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and Jesse Ventura is kind of like sparring with Mike

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Tyson when you're you know, just a guy, right, what

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are you thinking, dude?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 1: So his dad. John Davis's dad was a guy named

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Marvin Davis. In nineteen eighty one off Marv Okay, Marv Yes,

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Marv Davis acquired twentieth Century Fox for seven hundred and

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twenty two million dollars, and that also included who are

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you ready for this? It included some Fox assets, which

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included Pebble Beach golf links, the Aspen skiing company Wow,

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and a Century City property upon which he built and

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twice sold Fox Plaza, which you know better as can

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you name it?

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Speaker 2: Knakatomy Tower?

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Speaker 1: You got it, baby, Yes, Knackatoby Tower in the original

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Diehard filmed was owned by John Davis's dad, Marvin Davis.

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These people were so obscenely wealthy that Aaron Spelling modeled

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the family and dynasty off of their family.

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Speaker 2: Oh oh wow, that's incredible.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Nineteen ninety three, Marvin Davis and his wife is

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just to get give you some perspective, were robbed of

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ten million dollars of jewels and fifty thousand dollars cash

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buy a masked gunman while they were on holiday in

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the South of France. They're walking around France with ten

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million dollars in jewels and fifty thousand in cash.

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Speaker 2: There's rich and then there's super rich.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: They bought their house, a forty five thousand square foot

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house in Beverly Hills from Kenny Rogers. It became famous

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for its Christmas parties. Later on, Wow, I mean, if

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you're going to have a Christmas party, might as well

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have it in a forty five thousand square foot.

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Speaker 2: Manch Gosh, So they're famous for the Christmas parties. And

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then he owns the building where the greatest Christmas party

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of all time takes place.

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Speaker 1: It's Christmas deal. It is a time for merri you know.

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Speaker 2: You get the impression that, hey, I want to buy

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the movie studio. They're like, okay, great, how about this price.

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He's like, Hm, why don't you throw in Aspen Resorts too, Okay,

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sure we can do I mean the movie golf club.

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Sure I'll take you.

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Speaker 1: Gosh, yes, so obviously. Diehard also produced by Joel Silver,

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absolutely directed by John McTiernan, the director of Predator. Right

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and but John McTernan at the time that they were

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getting together the stuff for Predator, he was a guy

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who had done one movie and we talked about it

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in our Diehard Lethal Weapon episodes. His movie was called

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Nomads had Pierce Prosa, who will come up here in

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just a little bit. Yes, when we talk about RoboCop. Yes,

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So they get John McTiernan, we've got Joel Silver, We've

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got Lawrence Gordon, We've got John Davis, and we're like, Okay,

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we're going to go film in the jungle. And they

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film in the jungles.

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Speaker 2: Of Mexico, Mexico, just outside of Acapolco. Yep so, just

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outside of Acapulco. In fact, when they offered this role

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to the cast there like, Hey, we're gonna be shooting

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in Acapulcoco. Dude, that sounds like a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was two hours out side of the resort area.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: So, as we mentioned, Joel Silver had produced Lethal Weapon,

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and Lethal Weapon was written by a guy named Shane Black.

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Go check out our Lethal Weapon Diehard episode. You'll learn

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about how Joel Silver was one of the guys who

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came up with the rules for Ultimate Frisbee, and you'll

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learn how Shane Black almost quit writing before he even

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got started and then ended up writing a script called

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Shadow company which got him jobs and got him the

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script for Lethal Weapon, and that's how he knew Joel Silver.

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And Joel Silver was like, Hey, this script that we have,

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the one that had been written by Jim and John Thomas,

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needs some work. I would like you to come, you know,

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do some script doctor, And he's like, no, I don't

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really want to. And he's like, well, then just come

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down and be in the movie with me. He plays Hawkins, Yes, Hawkins.

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The first guy killed in.

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Speaker 2: The movie is Shane Black, the guy wrote Lethal Weapon

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yea and kiss Kiss, bang bang, And he's the guy

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doctor and predator.

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Speaker 1: Right, except that, as it turns out, he says, I

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Speaker 2: Yes, those are all his own jokes.

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Speaker 1: And that are so bad he has to explain them.

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she walked out, not because of the jokes, but because

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I was about to die and she didn't want to

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right.

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Speaker 2: First of all, Shane Black on the set of Predator

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was writing a screenplay for a little movie you might

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Speaker 2: Now that Shane Black plays Hawkins, he's the first guy

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killed Pator. What's the guy that they're looking for in

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the jungle, like the commando team is actually searching for.

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for a guy named Hopper.

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Speaker 2: What's the name of the sheriff and stranger things?

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Speaker 1: Hawkins, Illinois?

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Speaker 2: Those two names came straight from Predator.

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Speaker 4: Wow? How about that?

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Speaker 1: Wow? And I told you we were texting back and

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forth about this a bit. In season three, there is

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a guy who's clearly the terminator who is chasing after

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Jim Hopper, and at some point Jim Hopper has a

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you won't kill me? And he says, who oh, yeah,

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why not?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you have.

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Speaker 1: Police officer, police officer have rules. Sure enough.

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Speaker 2: I stood up in my living room when he said that.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, it is filled. Stranger Things is filled

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with Eighties references, So fans out there. Jason has just

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the years. Truly love it. It is a great eighties throwback,

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great eighties songs. And as a matter of fact, Jason

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and I have discussed it and we are going to

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start covering the songs of Stranger Things as unique new

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kinds of episodes that we're doing for the Sure that

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Speaker 2: We have cleared our slate to do this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's gonna be awesome.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be awesome. Hey, I got something for you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead.

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Speaker 2: Since we're kind of talking trivia right now? Yea, all right,

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Name two movies where you have eventual governors of different

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states star in the same movie.

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Speaker 1: Well, obviously you have Predator, Yes, because you have Jesse

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the body of Ventura, who was governor of Minnesota, and

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Arnold Schwartzendegga who was governor of California. Very good, and

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the other they were in a movie together before this.

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What was that, The Running Man? The running Man?

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Speaker 2: You got it? Yeah, Stephen King's The running Man starring

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Arnold Schwarzenegger and Jesse Ventura.

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Speaker 5: There's stuff will be I'm sexual Tyrannosaurce.

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Speaker 1: Just like Okay, I'm gonna throw the trivia back at you, bro.

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Oh okay, okay. There's a third guy in Predator that

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was also a gubernatorial candidate. Do you know who that is?

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I mean the only guy could be

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I'm gonna say Bill Duke.

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Speaker 1: No, dang it, it was Sonny Landam really a gubernatorial

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candidate for Kentucky in two thousand and three. He was

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not as successful as his co stars.

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Speaker 2: That's fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Might have had something to do with the fact that

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he was a porno actor before he was a regular

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actor and that probably worked against him.

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Speaker 2: Well, the fact that they had to have security to

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protect him from other people.

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Speaker 1: So let's go to that. So the guys, when you

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have a movie, you have to have insurance in the

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insurance company. When they found out that sunny Landam was

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going to be in the movie, they said, we are

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not going to ensure this unless you get him a bodyguard.

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And they're like, have you seen him? He's gigant. Why

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would eat And they're like, no, no, no, no, no, not

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for him. We need a bodyguard to protect other people

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from him.

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Speaker 2: It's like having your own private get back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, how big did that guy have to be?

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Speaker 2: By the way, seriously, my goodness, sunny Landam plays Billy right,

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the Native American character.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: He also played Billy Bear and another Joel Silver movie

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just before this, I Got It tell Me forty eight Hours,

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You Got a Baby? Yes, And shortly before that he

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was in poorno films and posed nude and playgirl.

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Speaker 2: Wow. Hey, the guy's ripped up. Hey, all the guys

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in this movie are ripped up.

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Speaker 1: They sought out guys that looked like big action figure heroes.

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Speaker 2: By the way, one movie that you didn't mention that

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it really hasn't impact in this movie is the movie

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Commando Joel Silver produced, yep, starred Arnold Schwitzenegger, Yep, and

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Bill Duke.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so that is how Predator came to be. Let's

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jump over to robot.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for your cooperations.

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Speaker 5: Okay.

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Speaker 1: So our writer on RoboCop. I looked at his credits.

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He basically has two, and then all of the movies

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that feed off of those two, and the two movies

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are RoboCop, Yes and Starship Troopers.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 1: So his name is Ed Newmeyer, right, and Ed new

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Meyer had gotten his degree in television and film, started

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working as a production assistant and then became a script

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reader for Universal for a while, right, And so he

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realized after a while of reading scripts that he hated

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his job. He kind of wormed his way in to

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being involved with the production of another movie that we

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just covered, Blade Runner, exactly.

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Speaker 2: And when he's watching Blade Runner's on the set of

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Blade Runner, and you have Harrison Ford who's chasing down

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these replicants and he looks at him, He's like, these

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are looked like robots that I have in my mind.

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Speaker 1: M hm.

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Speaker 2: And so you got cops and you got robots. It

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hit him like a ton of bricks. The word, the title,

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the idea, robo.

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Speaker 4: Cop that are alive, You are coming with me.

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Speaker 1: So he had this idea. He started working on his

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own script. He came across this guy named Michael Minor

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who was trying to be a director, just had like

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a student film out there. Came across him, but I

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don't know how they their conversation began, but Michael Minor

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had this idea for a super cop. So you've got

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ner Meyer who has a robot cop, and then you

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have Minor, who has a super cop. And so they

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just thought, okay, how do we take this and make

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this one idea? And these are two guys who did

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not know each other before they started working on this

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movie together, but they worked outside of their regular day

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to day jobs nights and weekends, had to get familiar

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with each other so that they could give each other

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kind of that constructive criticism that's hard to do even

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with people you know well. But ultimately to other they

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put together this movie called RoboCop.

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Speaker 2: Edward Neumeier was writing a script about a robot that

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became a cop, and Michael Miner was working on a

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script about a human cop that became a robot. I mean,

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how much closer can you get?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 1: So, I was surprised at how little comparison I saw

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in this movie versus The six million Dollar Man. I mean,

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because it's basically the same idea, right, I Mean, he've

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got a special agent who's given bionic cowers. He just

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doesn't have a big metal suit.

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Speaker 2: Obviously that's a good because that never occurred to me.

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Speaker 1: Right, I mean, but his laser sight in things, I mean,

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that's also very terminator and that had a huge influence

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on this movie getting greenlit as well. Oh yeah, okay,

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and interestingly, another movie that we've covered had some influence

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on this script writing as well. Okay, can you think

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of a movie that we've talked about where they kill

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off the main character after the first act?

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Speaker 2: Nothing is coming to me Lecho?

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Speaker 1: Oh there you go. So he loved what they did

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in Psycho by letting you get involved and deep into

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this character and then he's dead.

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Speaker 2: I think the girl in Psycho makes it longer than

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Murphy makes it in Roocop.

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Speaker 1: It's not terribly long, but you've got enough time for

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to build a relationship. Sure, you know, he talks to Lewis.

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He's the new guy. He's getting trained. He's doing his

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little pistol twirl to showing that he's got a family

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and his kid wants him to do this and he

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wants to look cool. I mean, it's all just to

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tie you to the lead.

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Speaker 2: The cat moment right there.

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Speaker 1: It is all very much to make you fall in

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love with him, I believe h Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 2: His son loves the TV show TJ Laser, and so

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he works on his flip of the gun.

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Speaker 1: I'll say this as a side note. Whenever they get

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to where the bad guys are, I mean, they've got

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the big car chase. Do you fly, Bobby? Then they

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go into the warehouse and I'm watching with Caleb, of course,

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right and as they're moving in, just the two of them,

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He's like, these are the worst cops I've ever seen

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them all lit. You're right, they are. They are the

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worst cops. I mean, who would do this? You know

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that you have an entire gang of guys in here

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who have no hesitation about throwing one of their own

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on top of your car. You're just going to go

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in and separate when you do brilliant.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they wake for back up, and we never have

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RoboCop the end. So, by the way, real quick on that,

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just to throw this in. I know I'm getting ahead

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of myself. But the car chase scene, you have Murphy

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and Lewis chasing the bad guys. They stumble upon them.

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It's like, hey, here're the bad guys, let's chase them, right.

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were running behind and Verhoven had to be other places,

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so the second unit directed that scene. And I told

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you this never happens to me because of where we live.

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We're not close to Hollywood. Movies don't shoot them in

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and around here very often. So for me to stand

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up and go, I know where that place is, it's

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clearly Dallas because Reunion Tower is in the background. There's

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a very distinct building in Dallas. It looks like a

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ball on a golf tee, and it's behind them, then

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it's in front of them, then it's behind him, then

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it's in front of them. You can tell it as

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directed by the second unit because they can't get the

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continuity right right, and that building keeps popping up.

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Speaker 1: That's hilarious, Okay, So yes, they've written the script. Yeah,

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they are crazy. You know, two novice script writers get

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two offers on it. One of them is from Atlantic

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Releasing and the other one is from director John Kaplan

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and his producer John Davison, who are both with Oriyan

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and So. John Davison has had experience producing films exploitation films,

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b films, including one that we've covered in our second episode,

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Oh my gosh. He was a producer on the movie Airplane.

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Speaker 2: Surely you can't be serious.

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Speaker 1: I am serious, and don't call me Shirtley. So Kaplan

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ends up leaving later on because he wants to direct

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Project X, also a movie of eighty seven Farris Bueller

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and Matthew Roderick and Helen Hunt and a in Chimpanzee.

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Chimpanzee not a monkey, you fool. So they're like, okay,

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well we need another director, and so they offered it

472
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:14,960
to David Cronenberg, Yep, Alex Cox, Monte Hellman. Helman ended

473
00:23:15,039 --> 00:23:18,279
up joining as the second unit. That's he's the guy

474
00:23:18,279 --> 00:23:21,680
who gave you the lack of continuity in the chase scene. Okay,

475
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:26,079
But ultimately they end up on this guy from Holland

476
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,880
and he had built his career with this actor starting

477
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,680
way back in the sixties with a TV show where

478
00:23:34,039 --> 00:23:37,200
a actor that we talked about even today was a

479
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,480
major player. That actor is Rudger Hower.

480
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 2: Yes, we talked about Rudger Hower obviously in our Blade

481
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,039
Runner episode. I just got done talking about Rudger Hower

482
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,240
in the Hitcher episode I did with Jeff Johnson over

483
00:23:49,279 --> 00:23:52,039
at a film buy. Yep, go listen to that. Rudger Hower.

484
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:53,640
I mean he was a movie star. He had done

485
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,599
Lady Hawk right right, yep, and they wanted him to

486
00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:58,640
be RoboCop.

487
00:23:58,799 --> 00:24:01,279
Speaker 1: So the TV show that read Howard did he played

488
00:24:01,279 --> 00:24:05,160
a character named Flores and that was directed by Paul Verehoven.

489
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 2: Yes.

490
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,559
Speaker 1: Paul Verehoven then goes on to do multiple TV and

491
00:24:09,759 --> 00:24:14,920
movies frequently paired up with Rutger Hower, including Swedish Delight,

492
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:22,079
Turkish Turkish Delight. Yet, Swedish Delight, Turkish Delight.

493
00:24:23,559 --> 00:24:31,079
Speaker 6: Whatever, It's fine, okay, Yeah, we mentioned Turkish Delight whenever

494
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:35,680
we are Blade Onner episode or Swedish Delight.

495
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:40,759
Speaker 2: You know, that was the movie that convinced Ridley Scott

496
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,079
to hire Rugger Hower for Blade Running.

497
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:48,559
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, oh my gosh, Sweetish Delight sweets Light. Now

498
00:24:48,559 --> 00:24:50,160
I have to see if there's a movie that's actually

499
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:55,440
called Swedish delight, right, So ultimately they move from the Netherlands.

500
00:24:55,559 --> 00:24:58,720
They do several movies together. The movie that comes out

501
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,599
in eighty five is Lesh and Blood. And the guys

502
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,200
who have lost Kaplan now say let's get Paul Verhoven.

503
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,680
They send him the script. He looks at the title

504
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,960
pagees like this is junkin, throws it on this floor.

505
00:25:11,039 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 4: Right.

506
00:25:11,279 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 2: He didn't understand the satire that's in the script. He

507
00:25:13,599 --> 00:25:17,240
wasn't completely fluent in English at the time. Fortunately, I

508
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,720
guess his wife was a little better, and she read

509
00:25:19,759 --> 00:25:21,880
it and she goes, I think you should probably look

510
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,400
at this again. This is like a satire of the

511
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:29,920
Reagan era economics and all of the corporate power and

512
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,240
greed things that are going on.

513
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,039
Speaker 1: And I don't think he even still got it the

514
00:25:33,039 --> 00:25:36,519
second time, but his wife's recommendation helped him decide to

515
00:25:36,559 --> 00:25:37,279
give it a chance.

516
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,039
Speaker 2: I heard him say that he was a forty seven

517
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,160
year old human, but only ten months old as an American.

518
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,440
Right by the way, kirkwood Smith, I believe it's his

519
00:25:45,599 --> 00:25:48,880
wife who plays the secretary that Bonaker is hitting on,

520
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,079
and he puts the gum on her nameplate. Oh right,

521
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:54,160
that's his wife.

522
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,759
Speaker 1: Really. Wow, that's a good one. So they've got the script,

523
00:25:57,839 --> 00:26:01,079
they've got the production money, they've got the director. Now

524
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,680
they need a cast. But before we get there, let's

525
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,319
jump back to Predator.

526
00:26:11,799 --> 00:26:14,079
Speaker 2: So for the cast of Predator, who's the first phone

527
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:14,599
call you make?

528
00:26:14,839 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 1: Obviously it's got to be Bruce Willis kidding Arnold Swartzner,

529
00:26:19,599 --> 00:26:20,920
Arnold Schwarzene, it's.

530
00:26:20,759 --> 00:26:22,559
Speaker 2: The first call you make. He had just worked with

531
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,039
him on Commando. Commando was a lot of fun. Arnold

532
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,720
was easy to work with action star. Of course, he

533
00:26:28,799 --> 00:26:31,720
looks like mister Olympia because he was mister Olympia.

534
00:26:31,799 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 1: Can I just touch on that for a second. Yeah,

535
00:26:33,559 --> 00:26:36,839
So Arnold Schwarzenegger obviously is not an American, I mean,

536
00:26:37,079 --> 00:26:40,720
not a Native American. No, he is not original, that's true.

537
00:26:40,759 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 2: He's not a Native American.

538
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 1: Keep is not originally from the US. Okay, yes, but

539
00:26:45,599 --> 00:26:49,039
he had gained fame through his bodybuilding. So he's one

540
00:26:49,079 --> 00:26:52,200
mister Olympia. Yes, and he but he wants to be

541
00:26:52,279 --> 00:26:55,920
an actor. And this director named Bob Raffleson says, I

542
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,079
want you to be in this movie. Called stay hungry. Okay,

543
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:00,920
and he's like okay. He goes, I want you to

544
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,759
play a bodybuilder. He's like, okay, got it. And he says,

545
00:27:05,079 --> 00:27:07,200
and I need you to weigh no more than two

546
00:27:07,279 --> 00:27:10,200
hundred and ten pounds. What And Arnold Swarzler is like what.

547
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,319
He goes, you just look bigger on the movie screen.

548
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,240
You're too big. You will look abnormally large. You have

549
00:27:17,319 --> 00:27:19,599
to still look like a bodybuilder, but you have to

550
00:27:19,599 --> 00:27:21,640
weigh too ten. And he's like, and I'm giving you

551
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,799
to this date, and if you are two eleven, you

552
00:27:23,799 --> 00:27:26,839
don't get the job. And so Arnold changes his workout regimen.

553
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,640
He goes from two forty when they weigh him day of,

554
00:27:29,799 --> 00:27:31,880
he's two oh nine. So he gets the part and

555
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,119
it's this pretty bad movie. He's got Jeff Bridges in it.

556
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,799
But then that was seventy six. Pumping Iron didn't come

557
00:27:37,839 --> 00:27:41,000
out for another year. He got back into mister Olympia's

558
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,799
shape after losing thirty pounds and went on to beat

559
00:27:44,839 --> 00:27:48,240
lu Farigno and win the competition in Pumping Iron.

560
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,559
Speaker 3: Wow, but he wants to.

561
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 1: Be the leading man. But everybody's like, number one, you

562
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,200
got the accent nobody's gonna take he as a leading man,

563
00:27:55,319 --> 00:27:57,920
right number two, you're too big, you're too gigantic. And

564
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,880
so what happens is we've got this beautiful, beautiful thing

565
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,119
that comes out called Cone in the Barbaria. Yes, directed

566
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,559
by one of my heroes, John Millius. Yes, And all

567
00:28:09,599 --> 00:28:12,319
of a sudden, the accent works for him because he

568
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:17,000
seems more caveman esque, right, and the facique is exactly

569
00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:19,319
like the Conean comics that were drawn. And so he

570
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,160
ends up being the perfect guy for this. John Millius

571
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,960
does a great job with his violence in the direction

572
00:28:25,039 --> 00:28:28,359
of this movie becomes a big hit, and now all

573
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,319
of the action stars look like bodybuilders. That was the

574
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,039
transition that occurred. And so by the time we get

575
00:28:35,079 --> 00:28:37,759
to nineteen eighty six and they're looking for someone to

576
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,960
be the action hero, Well, good news, we know the

577
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,200
action hero of the day, and his name is Arnold Swarzener.

578
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,279
Speaker 2: Without a doubt, I mean, he's a number one. In fact,

579
00:28:46,279 --> 00:28:48,839
you know who they wanted to hire to play RoboCop,

580
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,319
Donald swasch Arnl Schwarzene. And in fact, in this case

581
00:28:52,359 --> 00:28:54,839
he was too big because you got to lose the arm.

582
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:59,839
You know, his muscles would not translate to the RoboCop costume.

583
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,400
He would look humongous, he couldn't move.

584
00:29:02,319 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: It wouldn't be work. He'd be bigger than he had

585
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:05,400
two nine.

586
00:29:05,559 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 2: That's exactly right. That's exactly right. So, yeah, Joel Silver

587
00:29:09,279 --> 00:29:11,799
knows Arnold Swarzenegger. They call him, and Arnold reads it,

588
00:29:11,839 --> 00:29:13,359
and in fact, he read the script and he's like,

589
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,279
this is an original idea. He said, most scripts that

590
00:29:16,359 --> 00:29:18,519
they sent me at the time it was a knockoff

591
00:29:18,519 --> 00:29:20,599
of something else. He's like, this was really cool, this

592
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,400
is an interesting idea. I liked it a lot. He

593
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,319
also said, I want a commando group of guys, not

594
00:29:25,519 --> 00:29:26,160
just me alone.

595
00:29:26,279 --> 00:29:31,839
Speaker 5: No, he didn't, Dylan, you son of a bitch.

596
00:29:32,759 --> 00:29:35,279
Speaker 2: So when you have Arnold Schwarzenegger, you need a bunch

597
00:29:35,279 --> 00:29:37,880
of other guys who would fit the description of being

598
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,440
commando's on this super elague commando team. So Joel Silver

599
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,160
really liked what Carl Weathers had done in the Rocky movies.

600
00:29:44,319 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 5: Old if Dutch, I'm going after fags his style doing.

601
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,119
I guess I picked up some bad habits from you,

602
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:50,400
and I get your people the hell out of here.

603
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,279
Speaker 2: So he calls him and says, hey, I want you

604
00:29:52,319 --> 00:29:54,960
to play Dylan. Carl Weathers is awesome. He's a former

605
00:29:55,079 --> 00:29:56,119
NFL linebacker.

606
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he played for the Raiders.

607
00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 4: Yep.

608
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,839
Speaker 1: He wasn't a great NFL player, Like he had one

609
00:30:00,839 --> 00:30:04,519
stat he recovered a film, but he was to be

610
00:30:04,599 --> 00:30:08,160
calm an NFL player. Is how many sign recover in

611
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,079
the NFL? Exactly, that's exactly right, That's exactly right.

612
00:30:11,119 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 2: But you know what he looks like a Greek guy.

613
00:30:13,039 --> 00:30:15,839
Oh yeah, his arms abs in this movie. He looks

614
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,279
I mean chiseled. But he's also the brains the operation,

615
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,960
right yep. So for Blair, they go after Jesse the

616
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,519
Body of Ventura, son of the.

617
00:30:23,559 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 5: Pitchers, dug in like an Alabama tick. You're a hit,

618
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,440
you're bleeding, man, I ain't got time to.

619
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 2: Bleed because he was huge in wrestling.

620
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

621
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: Now, Jesse the Body of Ventura had actually been in Vietnam.

622
00:30:37,559 --> 00:30:41,839
He was a member of the Underwater Demolition Team, which

623
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,799
was a precursor. They're actually doing the transition at the time,

624
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,720
a precursor of the Navy Seals. Like they had all

625
00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:52,680
of these guys through go through this rigorous military training

626
00:30:53,079 --> 00:30:55,680
and every other guy was like, yeah, it was a

627
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,799
cakewalk for Jesse, like he was a Navy seal, so

628
00:30:58,119 --> 00:31:00,000
he just did it. Yes, it was easy for him.

629
00:31:00,079 --> 00:31:02,319
Him and then the other guys had a really hard time.

630
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:07,759
And he was like, Jesse, Jesse the buddy Ventur, I

631
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,160
can't say his name. I can't say Jesse Ventura without

632
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,200
putting the body.

633
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 2: Right, absolutely, no doubt right.

634
00:31:12,559 --> 00:31:15,559
Speaker 1: So Ventura says, He's like, yeah, I mean I felt

635
00:31:15,599 --> 00:31:18,400
comfortable once we were done doing a movie with these guys.

636
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,400
I wouldn't want them out in the real jungle with

637
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,160
me or whatever and everything. He's like, well, yeah, yeah,

638
00:31:23,359 --> 00:31:25,640
except for Sonny Landham, who's like, well, I don't know

639
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,720
about that.

640
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 2: That's pretty good.

641
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 4: Yeah.

642
00:31:29,279 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 2: Here's the interesting thing. When they were doing costume fitting

643
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,480
for a Predator, Yes, they fitted Jesse with his costume

644
00:31:36,519 --> 00:31:38,200
and they said, you know what, your arms are an

645
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,359
inch bigger than Arnold Schwarzenegger's. And he's like really, and

646
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,839
they're like yeah. So it goes Arnold Schwarzenegger and he says, hey, Nold,

647
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,880
how about we have a contest we'll measure our biceps

648
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,319
in which one of us has bigger biceps. And Arnold

649
00:31:51,319 --> 00:31:53,799
Schwitzenegger's like, yeah, we should get a bottle of champagne

650
00:31:53,799 --> 00:31:55,880
on this deal. And so they do it. And when

651
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,480
they measure Arnold Schwitzenegger's arms are three inches bigger than

652
00:31:59,559 --> 00:32:04,000
Jesse Jesse venturis and he's like, what the what this is?

653
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,559
And so Artol said, I paid the customed people to

654
00:32:07,599 --> 00:32:07,920
say that.

655
00:32:09,359 --> 00:32:12,519
Speaker 1: Real quick tidbit on Ventura. Are you an X Files fan?

656
00:32:12,599 --> 00:32:15,599
There's an episode of X Files called Jose Chungs from

657
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,559
Outer Space. Jesse Ventura plays one of the men in Black.

658
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,039
If you will, okay, you know who plays the other

659
00:32:22,079 --> 00:32:26,480
man in Black? No, Alex Trebek, what I what are

660
00:32:26,519 --> 00:32:29,839
you talking about? Gotta be a great wow, gotta be

661
00:32:29,839 --> 00:32:30,400
a great episode.

662
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 2: I know our buddy Dave Wright is a big fan

663
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,640
of the X Files. He could shed some moighty on that.

664
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:35,880
So we already talked about Sonny Landam.

665
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 4: There's something out there waiting for us.

666
00:32:40,519 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 3: And it ain't no man.

667
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 2: He was a good Nottorial candidate from Kentucky, overall tough guy,

668
00:32:46,799 --> 00:32:49,200
so tough in fact, that they had to enact security

669
00:32:49,279 --> 00:32:51,720
upon him yep, in the middle of the jungle.

670
00:32:51,839 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: He played football for college as well. He played for

671
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,039
the University of Georgia Bulldogs. Are you David right?

672
00:32:57,119 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 2: Dave right. Then they hired Richard Chavez. He was an

673
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:04,160
actual Vietnam vet. Yep, he plays Poncho. He plays Poncho.

674
00:33:04,519 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 5: She says, a jungle.

675
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,079
Speaker 4: It just came alive and took him.

676
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: Interesting thing with him is that in like the nineties,

677
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,880
he got this stalker who started harassing him and he

678
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,319
basically kind of scared him off. Like he just doesn't

679
00:33:17,359 --> 00:33:18,319
done anything since then.

680
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 2: Really, yeah, that's weird. And then we can't forget mister

681
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:21,519
Bill Duke.

682
00:33:21,759 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: But the fifth Central American, I'm goddamn chat him.

683
00:33:25,119 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 3: From the looks of it, O tabinet minister with Cia, the.

684
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 2: Guy who carries around and dry shaves the entire Predator movie,

685
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,799
which creeps me out more than almost anything other than

686
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,839
pulling the spine out of the dead body. Well that

687
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,799
in his eyes, he's got some eyes.

688
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,039
Speaker 1: He got some eyes that will reach out and grab you.

689
00:33:42,759 --> 00:33:46,839
Speaker 2: He plays Mac Mac sergeant. He had been in Commando

690
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,920
with Arno Swarzenegger and they had become friends during that time.

691
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,440
And then we already talked about Shane Black as Hawkins.

692
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,400
He was there to help with the script. They wrote

693
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:55,359
him into the movie.

694
00:33:55,519 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: So Sonny Lanham was married five times. He got convicted

695
00:33:59,039 --> 00:34:02,519
on federal charges of making threatening and obscene phone calls

696
00:34:02,559 --> 00:34:05,839
to his wife and spent three years in prison, but

697
00:34:06,039 --> 00:34:09,559
ultimately his conviction got reversed by the US six Circuit

698
00:34:09,599 --> 00:34:12,559
Court of Appeals in two thousand and one. Two thousand

699
00:34:12,599 --> 00:34:15,400
and six, he was injured in a car accident, and

700
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,119
in two thousand and eight he announced his candidacy for

701
00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:21,360
the US Senate for the seat that was held by

702
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,039
Mitch McConnell. What yep. A month later he was running

703
00:34:25,039 --> 00:34:27,840
on the Libertarian Party. A month later, he made statements

704
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,760
about total war and attacking an enemy, which included generalizations

705
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,800
and derogatory language on the political radio, showed the Weekly Filibuster,

706
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,320
and later that month the Libertarian Party asked him to

707
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:41,360
withdraw his nomination.

708
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 2: Wow, he was forty six years old when he did Predator.

709
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,599
Speaker 5: Wow he is ripped up, dude.

710
00:34:50,679 --> 00:34:54,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he looks fantastic now. He may have not

711
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:59,320
felt fantastic in this particular movie, apparently Montezuma's Revenge. Every

712
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,440
single one of these guys again, except for the director,

713
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,320
who was smart enough not to eat and drink the

714
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,159
food down there, right, We had that same issue with

715
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,519
Steven Spielberg when they were doing Raiders of the Lost Arc.

716
00:35:11,039 --> 00:35:15,400
John McTernan is basically politely refused all food and he

717
00:35:15,519 --> 00:35:19,119
was the only one who didn't have some major intestinal issues.

718
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,960
And there are apparently some scenes just like in Raiders

719
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,679
of the Lost Arc where Sonny Lindham soiled himself in

720
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:27,719
the midst of the scene.

721
00:35:28,039 --> 00:35:31,599
Speaker 2: No word on whether John McTiernan ate nothing but Spaghettio's.

722
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,440
And then the Predator. This to me is maybe the

723
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,360
most interesting thing that I discovered.

724
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: One h absolutely.

725
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,519
Speaker 2: Okay, So, originally the Predator was played by none other

726
00:35:47,559 --> 00:35:51,119
than Jean Claudevondam Hello, Yes.

727
00:35:53,519 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: Who at the time was nobody nobody like. He had

728
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,639
been in a very small extra heart in Breaking.

729
00:36:01,679 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 2: Well, and he was in a movie called No Retreat,

730
00:36:03,519 --> 00:36:06,039
No Surrender, which was based off of that Bruce Springsteen

731
00:36:06,159 --> 00:36:09,880
song go back to our episode I'm born in the USA, right.

732
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,360
They put him in this costume. He was expecting to

733
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,639
play like an action star, uh huh, and they put

734
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,440
him in this weird costume and he's trying to run around.

735
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,719
He looks like a mascot for a football team. Yeah,

736
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,000
and it's ridiculous. Looking, there's no I mean, he can't

737
00:36:26,079 --> 00:36:29,039
use his karate, he can't do his he can't show

738
00:36:29,039 --> 00:36:31,559
his muscles, he can't do his acrobatics or the splits.

739
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:32,719
None of that works.

740
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: Yeah.

741
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,199
Speaker 2: I saw a video one time of the Seattle Mariners

742
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:41,760
moose mascot. Yeah, okay, rollerblading behind the four by four

743
00:36:42,559 --> 00:36:45,079
and he broke his leg and it was the funniest

744
00:36:45,079 --> 00:36:49,880
thing I've ever seen. This reminded me of that. It

745
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,320
was just a goofy mess and it didn't work.

746
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:57,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're treading into some special effects area here, which

747
00:36:57,159 --> 00:36:59,679
we will talk about in more detail now, but just

748
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,599
the that you need to know is that the original

749
00:37:02,639 --> 00:37:06,760
costume did not work. John Claude van Dam is not

750
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,000
a tall guy at all, and he's around all of

751
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,480
these guys that are well over six foot. I mean

752
00:37:11,519 --> 00:37:14,880
Bill Dukes six', Four Sonny, LINDHAM i don't, know six,'

753
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,239
five i don't Know The arnod swarzennigger. Sixty four they're

754
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,880
all really really. Tall guys and so if you've got

755
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,760
to have a monster that's supposed to, be intimidating you

756
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,920
can't have a guy who's in the five foot, something,

757
00:37:27,039 --> 00:37:30,079
Range right so what they had was this monster that

758
00:37:30,199 --> 00:37:32,599
had like a giraffe neck over the top of, his

759
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,440
head and that was supposed to, be it but It

760
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,639
just john mcturn, and said when they opened up the

761
00:37:38,679 --> 00:37:42,440
box and saw the, monster costume, they're like are you?

762
00:37:42,599 --> 00:37:46,119
Kidding me and they, tried it and not only did it, look,

763
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,360
Terrible well John claudevan dam was complaining the, whole time

764
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,800
and so finally they were, just like let's just put

765
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,400
it back in the box and they just sent a

766
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,320
little note, that says you don't really want us to

767
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,840
use this costume. For you and so it was at

768
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,559
that point they called up a very. Special person we'll

769
00:38:02,559 --> 00:38:04,519
talk about that in, a minute but before, we, do

770
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,320
yes they needed to find a guy to play, the

771
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,559
part and so Instead Of john Claude, van.

772
00:38:09,519 --> 00:38:13,119
Speaker 2: Dam they picked a Guy Named Kevin. Peter, hall yes

773
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,559
and he was fresh Off of harry And. The, hendersons

774
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:16,679
yeah he's the guy Who.

775
00:38:16,679 --> 00:38:21,679
Speaker 1: Played, harry yes He, played sasquatch He, played bigfoot he

776
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,760
played that. Gigantic man and.

777
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,679
Speaker 2: He's seven, foot two, that's huge seven foot two and

778
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:28,800
a trained actor and a.

779
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: Basketball. Player, yeah yeah he had Played For George washington

780
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:37,039
university And then ultimately he Moved to venezuela to play

781
00:38:37,039 --> 00:38:40,519
professional basketball. Down, there yep but he ends up, you

782
00:38:40,519 --> 00:38:42,679
know he was a theater major while he was. In

783
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,960
college he wants to be, an actor and so he

784
00:38:45,039 --> 00:38:47,280
comes back and is playing a whole lot of monster

785
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,440
parts and it's usually these kind of low, budget things

786
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,119
but he's. Building up eventually he gets the Job in

787
00:38:52,159 --> 00:38:54,920
harry And. The henderson's he's also IN a tv Series

788
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,760
called Misfits of science for a little. While, too okay

789
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,119
but he's just a very tall.

790
00:39:00,159 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 2: Black man he has a cameo in this movie as the.

791
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,159
Speaker 1: Helicopter, pilot yeah when they pick them all up and

792
00:39:06,159 --> 00:39:08,800
they're flying away at. The end the pilot that you

793
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,079
see is the same guy that was In the. Predator

794
00:39:11,119 --> 00:39:12,119
costume the all, its cool.

795
00:39:12,199 --> 00:39:14,639
Speaker 2: Right right he died at age thirty five and nineteen.

796
00:39:14,679 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 7: Ninety.

797
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,039
Speaker 1: One yep he had been starring ON the tv show two,

798
00:39:18,079 --> 00:39:22,519
two seven where he met His Wife. Aleana reid they

799
00:39:22,519 --> 00:39:26,000
had gotten married and then he discovered that he HAD

800
00:39:26,079 --> 00:39:30,239
contracted hiv from a blood transfusion from a surgery he

801
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,159
had had back when he had a. Car wreck.

802
00:39:32,199 --> 00:39:33,559
Speaker 2: It's, terrible yeah thirty five.

803
00:39:33,639 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 1: Years, old yeah Passed away, april tenth nineteen. Ninety one oh.

804
00:39:36,559 --> 00:39:38,280
Speaker 2: One MORE person i want to mention who does a

805
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,119
fantastic job and is easy. To, overlook okay forgive ME

806
00:39:41,119 --> 00:39:44,159
if i say her. Name Wrong It's elpitia.

807
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:50,519
Speaker 1: Carios means the demon who makestrofusofman and She.

808
00:39:50,599 --> 00:39:53,599
Speaker 2: Plays anna she's the woman that they drag around the

809
00:39:53,679 --> 00:39:57,719
jungle dime moohare, Right right and she's the one who

810
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,280
says the jungle came alive and it.

811
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,039
Speaker 1: Took, Him right and that's a great bit for the.

812
00:40:02,079 --> 00:40:04,920
Whole storyline is this understanding because, she said this is

813
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,880
something that's been happening for, a while and so we

814
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,519
have this understanding that this is not the only predator.

815
00:40:11,559 --> 00:40:14,519
That exists this is not a. One off these predators

816
00:40:14,519 --> 00:40:17,480
have been coming and hunting our people for many, years

817
00:40:17,559 --> 00:40:22,440
now which brings me to an interesting. Segue here august of,

818
00:40:22,559 --> 00:40:25,679
this year we are going to have a prequel to

819
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:26,280
this movie.

820
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,159
Speaker 2: Come out, oh yeah. That's right It's.

821
00:40:28,199 --> 00:40:33,159
Speaker 1: Called. Pray yeah it looks like it potentially could be.

822
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,800
Very good i'm holding out hope that it will be a.

823
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,800
Great movie the director is a guy who's done a

824
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,840
LOT of, tv series work that ARE great tv Series

825
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,920
Like black mirror and some of those. Other Ones so

826
00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:48,360
i'm really hopeful that this is a. GOOD movie i

827
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,599
think we should probably. Watch it we should. Cover it how?

828
00:40:50,639 --> 00:40:52,679
Speaker 2: About, that yeah let's. Cover it i'm hoping that it's, good,

829
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:56,079
too huh although we have not had A good predator

830
00:40:56,199 --> 00:40:57,000
movie since nineteen.

831
00:40:57,039 --> 00:41:00,639
Speaker 1: Eighty, seven right and just, for connections and by, the

832
00:41:00,639 --> 00:41:05,239
way on, these movies we mentioned In Our Lethal weapon

833
00:41:05,679 --> 00:41:10,400
diehard Episode That shane black was Roommates With chris matheson

834
00:41:11,039 --> 00:41:13,880
Who wrote Bill. And ted yes, he Did And fred

835
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,320
decker Who wrote. RoboCop, three hey, all right so there.

836
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,760
You Go shane Black from predator Roommates With, fred decker

837
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,480
who Had written. RoboCop three they actually got together in

838
00:41:24,679 --> 00:41:28,679
twenty sixteen twenty seventeen and wrote a movie About. The

839
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:32,119
Predator shane black. Directed it it Was Called, the predator

840
00:41:32,519 --> 00:41:35,480
and apparently it was. Pretty, BAD yeah. I, Watched okay

841
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,880
so The original predator costume was Created By richard England

842
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,679
Of Boss, film studios who we have talked about a

843
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,159
couple of different. Times before he Had Done fright Night, and,

844
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:52,039
ghostbusters right so they that Was he he made, this, disproportionate,

845
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:58,480
gangly ugly yellow, eyed doghead his. Nasty, creature yes before

846
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,559
They picked, john, mcturner though they Had Considered jeff murphy.

847
00:42:02,599 --> 00:42:06,119
To direct now that made That. Name, murphy, no, right

848
00:42:06,519 --> 00:42:12,000
no that'd. Been funny that name may not ring a bell. For,

849
00:42:12,079 --> 00:42:14,480
you yeah but we have talked about one of his.

850
00:42:14,519 --> 00:42:16,519
Speaker 2: Movies before, oh, well okay there.

851
00:42:16,519 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: Was a movie that was the first movie Written By

852
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,840
matt reeves Who Directed The, batman batman and it was

853
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,880
a movie that he was trying to make a, diehard

854
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,519
movie but they took it and they stuck it on.

855
00:42:27,559 --> 00:42:32,119
Speaker 2: A Boat under. Siege two you got It under. Siege, too.

856
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: Yeah So, jeff murphy the guy who Directed under, siege

857
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:40,239
two was considered to direct This before. John Returning, jeff

858
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,719
murphy by, the way is the second unit guy For

859
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,440
the lord Of the, rings trilogy so he's. Not nobody

860
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,239
but it's just kind of funny that we've got that.

861
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 4: Weird.

862
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:51,280
Speaker 2: Connection, wow okay, that's cool. All Right D so predator

863
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,880
Was released, june twelfth nineteen. Eighty, seven, okay okay same

864
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,360
Weekend As, The believers revenge Of The, nerds Too and

865
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,880
Witches Of East stroke Nerds. In paradise, all, right okay

866
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,719
but it finished second at the. Box, office okay any

867
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,719
Idea what the movie that finished first at the box

868
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:13,639
office that week Was eighty summer of Eighty Seven Beverly Hills,

869
00:43:13,639 --> 00:43:16,760
cop too Directed By, tony scott who also directed A

870
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:17,960
talk gun big movie.

871
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 1: That summer, all, right, okay guys before we get to,

872
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,119
the end we want to do a. Shirly showcase we

873
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,760
have two awesome guys from an awesome podcast who are

874
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:30,079
going to weigh In on Predator. Versus, RoboCop yeah if you.

875
00:43:30,039 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 2: Don't Know about Buzzing, the tower you need to give

876
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,119
these guys. A listen they are. Really good they're Weighing

877
00:43:35,159 --> 00:43:37,760
in Predator. Versus RoboCop we asked them to do this

878
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,000
about six. Months ago so here.

879
00:43:39,039 --> 00:43:42,199
Speaker 5: You Go I'm most Shapiro And I'm, max sanders.

880
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 3: And we are the.

881
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 7: Co Hosts although i'd like To think max is more

882
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,639
of sitting in that part of the motorcycle that's like

883
00:43:46,679 --> 00:43:47,480
next to the main part of.

884
00:43:47,519 --> 00:43:47,559
Speaker 2: The.

885
00:43:47,559 --> 00:43:50,760
Speaker 5: Motorcycle Comical, Indiana, jones Absolutely.

886
00:43:50,559 --> 00:43:54,079
Speaker 7: Doctor, jones doctor we are Buzzing the tower and our

887
00:43:54,119 --> 00:43:57,800
brothers from. Another mother surely you can't be, serious Podcast,

888
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,840
which Max if i've said, IT once i will say

889
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,559
it in a. Thousand times THE jealousy i have for

890
00:44:02,639 --> 00:44:05,000
the name of. The podcast it's one of my favorite

891
00:44:05,039 --> 00:44:06,280
Lines from airplane.

892
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,079
Speaker 5: And they got the back To.

893
00:44:07,119 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 3: The Future, say shirley you can't.

894
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 5: Be, serious shirley you can't. BE serious i, am.

895
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 3: Serious and don't Call.

896
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,559
Speaker 5: Me Shirley your leslie. Is lacking it's not.

897
00:44:13,679 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 3: Very, good yeah we'll give a little. Gold, bloom, yes,

898
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:16,400
yes yes.

899
00:44:16,639 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 7: That's better so they reached out, to us because that's

900
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,199
what this brotherhood of eighties and nineties retro.

901
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,679
Speaker 5: Podcasters, do yeah we all have. The backsign we have.

902
00:44:23,679 --> 00:44:26,599
Speaker 7: A club we're basically like The the greasers And. The,

903
00:44:26,599 --> 00:44:30,079
outsiders Yeah, the greasers it's The, Stay, golden max don't worry.

904
00:44:30,079 --> 00:44:32,400
About it, that's sorry. It's okay so they reached out

905
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,280
to us and they wanted, our feedback and they gave

906
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,559
us a list to, pick from and it's like there was,

907
00:44:36,599 --> 00:44:39,360
an option like there's. A choice there's like maybe five

908
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,440
or Six and, i'm, like oh we, Do this oh

909
00:44:42,639 --> 00:44:43,440
that will be the one that.

910
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,280
Speaker 3: We do they wanted us to Do a they do

911
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:45,519
a lot.

912
00:44:45,559 --> 00:44:48,599
Speaker 7: Of verses, in fact their latest Episode was batman eighty

913
00:44:48,679 --> 00:44:49,400
Nine Versus The.

914
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 5: Dark knight.

915
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 7: Oh eight it's a hard that's that's a real. That's

916
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,920
great so we're actually doing an episode. Very soon i'm

917
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,199
not sure when this will drop versus when our, episode

918
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,840
dropped but We're doing batman eighty nine in honor of

919
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:00,519
The new batman.

920
00:45:00,559 --> 00:45:02,039
Speaker 3: Coming out but back To What dean.

921
00:45:02,159 --> 00:45:05,599
Speaker 7: Jason requested they wanted us to take a moment to

922
00:45:05,679 --> 00:45:09,760
talk about a versus scenario, with films and we selected

923
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,199
the only thing we could select.

924
00:45:11,039 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 5: Better live done.

925
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 3: Her alive We're talking RoboCop, Versus, Predator max where do

926
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:16,960
you begin with?

927
00:45:17,039 --> 00:45:20,079
Speaker 7: The obvious with, The obvious predator Is because predator is

928
00:45:20,079 --> 00:45:24,119
the greatest movie. Ever made it has to be better Than. Robo, cop,

929
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:29,000
However however RoboCop is. Straight fire have you ever had

930
00:45:29,039 --> 00:45:31,480
both in your hands And? Gone RoboCop, you know, IN

931
00:45:31,559 --> 00:45:35,519
fairness i Would watch RoboCop over predator because of how

932
00:45:35,559 --> 00:45:36,199
Many times I've.

933
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Speaker 3: WATCHED predator.

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00:45:38,639 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 4: I.

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Speaker 7: Have won because you're still young in. The game when

936
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,400
was the first time You? Watched predator you were in.

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00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,639
Speaker 5: Your, twenties yeah but the toxic waste death freaks it

938
00:45:44,679 --> 00:45:45,360
scares you now.

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00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 3: It's great so you have a clash of.

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00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 7: TWO titans i THINK where I love RoboCop Relative to

941
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,599
predator is think About what RoboCop did with no real, big,

942
00:45:55,679 --> 00:45:59,280
NAMES right I Mean bucker, bond's eye but.

943
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 3: That's it are you know a guy by the Name

944
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,599
of ARLs. Short there he may be a little bit

945
00:46:03,599 --> 00:46:04,119
bigger than.

946
00:46:04,159 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 5: You, know peter the toxic waste guy was. In fame

947
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:07,199
are we going to talk about The?

948
00:46:07,199 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 3: Toxic?

949
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 7: Shane, Yeah McFly paul, PAUL McFly, i Think, think max

950
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:13,320
think McFly.

951
00:46:13,119 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 5: And also read from Seventy, show no.

952
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:21,119
Speaker 3: Read From Stay. Staying alive he was the. Dance coordinator.

953
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 5: THAT fact I.

954
00:46:23,199 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 3: Think i'll take a.

955
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 7: DIFFERENT spin i don't think this is what they wanted us.

956
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,800
To do but because there's no way that we're even

957
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,159
going to Argue that RoboCop is Better, than predator let's talk.

958
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,400
STREET fight i was gonna, Say, sexier no not Sexier

959
00:46:34,519 --> 00:46:35,320
super predator?

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00:46:35,639 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 3: Who wins. NO way i think robo cop wins. That

961
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:38,280
fight how?

962
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:42,639
Speaker 7: Many, sexier no we're still about in a, street Fight

963
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,519
robo Coop. VERSUS predator, I go I, go RoboCop seriously.

964
00:46:45,599 --> 00:46:46,559
I do i'll tell you why.

965
00:46:46,679 --> 00:46:48,039
Speaker 5: He, can't uh what's it?

966
00:46:48,079 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 7: CALLED camouflage, i know but he can take a beating

967
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,159
like he's not made, of flesh.

968
00:46:52,119 --> 00:46:53,559
Speaker 5: So as he just gotta go through.

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00:46:53,559 --> 00:46:55,599
Speaker 3: His, brain no remember it's. A prosthetic it's not.

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00:46:55,639 --> 00:46:57,639
Speaker 7: Even, real, REALLY yeah, i remember that's just a little

971
00:46:57,639 --> 00:46:59,119
piece of flesh they put on there to make him

972
00:46:59,119 --> 00:46:59,440
feel good.

973
00:46:59,440 --> 00:46:59,639
Speaker 3: About.

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00:46:59,679 --> 00:47:04,280
Speaker 7: HIMSELF serious i think That maybe RoboCop two when they're Going.

975
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,519
After caine what's Bugging Your murphy kanes? BUGGING me I

976
00:47:07,559 --> 00:47:10,960
think i Go with RoboCop in. The fight predator certainly has.

977
00:47:11,039 --> 00:47:12,400
The technology are they in?

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00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:13,079
Speaker 5: The jungle are they?

979
00:47:13,119 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 7: In like, oh no that's A great if they're in,

980
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,159
a Jungle the predator wins. FOR show I mean robocock

981
00:47:17,159 --> 00:47:17,880
can barely walk up.

982
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,519
Speaker 5: And, Downstairs yeah arnold beat him with like no, weapons

983
00:47:20,559 --> 00:47:22,920
whatsoever he like. Mcguiver DID so i guess robo cop

984
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:23,199
has a.

985
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:24,599
Speaker 3: Better, chance yeah so you're making.

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00:47:24,599 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 5: MY point, i, know okay moving not in.

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00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 3: The jungle not in the jungle.

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00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,519
Speaker 7: FOR sure, i mean but if they Were IN detroit

989
00:47:29,519 --> 00:47:33,519
Ocp ran detroit and it was or It was, predator

990
00:47:33,519 --> 00:47:37,320
too and they Were in La with jamaican, drug, dealers

991
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,440
YES then i think. It wins, great question, great, Topic

992
00:47:40,519 --> 00:47:42,679
guys thanks for giving us a couple of minutes to speak.

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00:47:42,679 --> 00:47:45,039
OUR minds i think we Land on predator overall For

994
00:47:45,199 --> 00:47:48,679
movie RoboCop in a street fight, and again surely you

995
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,239
can't be. Serious podcast thank you For having buzz In

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00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:51,920
the tower on.

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00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 1: Your, show okay and you can see why we like

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00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,159
to listen to. These guys they. ARE hysterical i, thanks

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00:47:57,199 --> 00:47:59,239
guys really appreciate you giving us your opinion on.

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00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,679
Speaker 2: This one there grease your brothers from. Another mother that.

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00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 1: Is great thanks guys, so much really. Appreciate it, everybody

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00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,519
listening please go check Out the buzz And the. Tower,

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00:48:09,519 --> 00:48:12,039
podcast guys that'll do it for our first Part Of

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00:48:12,159 --> 00:48:16,239
Predator versus RoboCop. Be scher come back next week and

1005
00:48:16,559 --> 00:48:20,400
you will get part Two Of RoboCop. Versus Predator.

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00:48:20,599 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 2: RoboCop predator it's going to be a. Street fight can't

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00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:25,119
wait to find out what you think about.

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Speaker 4: These two, EXCUSE me i have to go somewhere there

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was a. Crime happening get you to chop a