Speaker 1: What if I were to tell you that's a friend
of mine in one of his colleagues correctly forecasted what
would happen in the Iran War, more so than apparently
the wist. What if I told you that he's a
conservative and a Christian, And what if I told you
he's even reluctant to talk about it, but he's going
to talk about it. Zach Gybraam joined us, the chief
investment Officer Bulwark Capital Management. With the help of God Almighty.
Speaker 2: But Todd Herman show is one percent disapproved by big
pharma technocrats in Tyran's everywhere from the high mountains of
Free America. Here's the Emerald City exile Todd Herman.
Speaker 1: Today is the day the Lord has made, and these
are the times to which God has decided we shall live.
Zach Abraham, chief Investment Officer, Bulwark Capital Management, friend and
brother joins us. Good to see you, my friend.
Speaker 3: Good to see you too.
Speaker 4: Wish it was under different circumstances, but always good to
see that man.
Speaker 1: It is. People say crazy times. I would say biblical times, dude.
I mean we were in biblical times before we get
to this discussion. And it's a good one. And one
we need to have about the Trump administration, the war
which you guys forecasted, how we're locked up in energy,
and what needs to change AI. There's a lot here, Zach.
I wanted to share a little breaking news. This is just
publish at Koma News, one of your local outfits there.
Washington State has joined New York, California, and Michigan in
contemplating an exit tax. They intend to charge you money
for leaving the state taking your business out. This isn't
passed yet, but you guys made the decision to relocate
the company because of the unconstitutional income tax. I wanted
to drop this on you because, frankly, from a selfish
need perspective, I like seeing you respond to these things
physically and viscerally. And if people are just listening to
the audio, you were missing a man who's really like,
are you praying to the Holy Spirit right now to
help you with the response?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: This is I think I've done pretty good in the
most part for this, especially on social media, but trying
to remain above the fray and not getting nasty in
this has.
Speaker 3: Been challenging.
Speaker 4: It's been very challenging because there is this there's this
dichotomy that you're well aware of.
Speaker 3: Where you look at.
Speaker 4: People and they're like, oh good, you know you should
you should you look at them and go, Okay, I mean,
ignore how ridiculous and stupid. What you just said was
you shouldn't care about whether you like or dislike the tax.
You should care about the fact that there's a legislative
body that just rolled over your constitutional rights. And if
you think it stops at me, you're an idiot. So
you're literally cooking your own goose. And like I've said before,
this might sound arrogant, but I think we're at a
point in time where we need to talk about brass
tax without any guards. Here's the deal. When I leave,
I'm going to be rich and happy wherever I leave to,
and I'm going to have a fantastic house.
Speaker 3: Praise be to God.
Speaker 4: Okay, it's the working people, the people that are attacking
me on Twitter.
Speaker 3: I'm looking at them and going, you're the ones that
are going to pay for it, not us.
Speaker 4: Right, We're literally stepping up, risking ourselves, risking our capital,
and effectively who we're really trying to help cause. Again,
do I want to stay here, Yes, but how negatively
impacted is my life if I move to Arizona, Ido,
it's not, and a lot of things will be better.
I'll miss home, but established new home, you know, all
that kind of stuff. The people stuck here, different deal,
different deal. Right, then they're going to decide why I
got to sell my house Now all of a sudden,
their house is going to be worth thirty percent or
less or wherever they want to move to.
Speaker 3: So now they're really stuck again. That doesn't apply to us.
Speaker 4: Do I want to take a rinsing on my house? No,
But if I have to take a two or three
million dollar hit on exiting the state, I can do that.
It's not going to impact my lifestyle. Right, And you
look at these people and you go who you think
are your friends or your enemies? And who you think
are your enemies or your friends? And you're about to
learn a really important lesson. Unfortunately, it's gonna be painful
for all of us, but you're determined to do it.
Speaker 1: And Zach thinking of small businesses and small family businesses.
It's been about six weeks since John Caldwell passed. He
is was the founder of Alan Soaps. We took a break.
I wanted his wife. I hate saying widow, but she
is in fact John's widow. To have some time to
grieve before we came back into promoting the soap company.
All natural soap made in America by family with three
generations of soap making expertise. I asked Tina what would
be the package that would honor John. She said, Hey,
here's what would really honor him is the four bars
of soap, the original fragrances of soap that Alan helped invent,
and a cisel pouch, all for under twenty nine bucks.
And she's put this together. If you've never purchased soap
from them before, this is a chance to try it.
We want Tina to have a good, strong run at
keeping the company alive, so Alan has a place to
work there. He's so high on the autism spectrum, effectively nonverbal.
He's been through eighteen operations at the age of thirteen.
His brother Ian works there. He's also impacted by autism
in different ways. But we want to get back into
the business of employing more people, but first we have
to help the company keep going with John gun So
go to alansaps dot com slash Todd purchase this package
to honor the life of John And if you've let
your subscription laps, don't just get back in subscribe. It's
Alon soaps dot com slash Todd.
Speaker 4: And I just came from a really interesting meeting about this.
I think you'll find this fascinating. There's a guy that
I'm meeting with. We're organizing the resistance here against this thing,
and we're going to attack several others, but that's going
to be our first hill to climb. He got invited
to a meeting of Seattle progressives that realize the disaster
that has been created here and are desperately trying to
get the toothpaste back in the tube. And one of
the keynote speakers at that was Christine greg Wor.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the lady who stole the election, the first
all male in ballot election that she stole.
Speaker 3: No, she only stole it once. Well, she only stole
it once.
Speaker 1: Oh that's just fair, just one time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he won three, but she won one and that
was the most important one.
Speaker 1: Right, So the last where they found fifteen hundred ballots
in a guy's trunk of his car. He forgot they
were there all that.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, But I mean, but he's as good as
the day as long we can trust him.
Speaker 3: Old Ed is what I call him. Yeah, he's you
can trust it.
Speaker 4: But anyway, she stood up and she said, listen, you
guys are going to react now, or you're going to
react when it's too late. But she just said, I
am here to tell you there are two unions that
now run this state. They it's not that they are
making bad decisions. She goes, they don't like you. They
don't like business.
Speaker 3: She said.
Speaker 4: Even for those of you guys that didn't like us,
she said, when I was governor, I understood, we all
understood we need you, we need business in the state.
Speaker 3: We got it.
Speaker 4: And she goes, I am here to tell you. The
people running Olympia do not like you. They want to
step on you, and they only answer to the SCIU.
And there's one other union body and she goes, that's it.
She They even told me something surprising. They said that
Ferguson mostly do for political reasons, didn't want to pass
this tax. The SCIU held his feet to the fire
and said do it or we'll pull funding.
Speaker 2: Wow. Wow.
Speaker 3: So it's.
Speaker 4: Like I've said, this state is being driven off a
cliff by ideology and the average citizen is not aware
of it. And these are not people making decisions. They're
making decisions purely based on ideology. This is the equivalent
of mousey tongue saying we're going to lead the world
in weed exports. And if you see a bird eating
up a grain of wheat, hit it with a rock,
right like it's the say. They are blindly following ideology
because they believe in the moral rectitude of their cause,
and they are driving the entire state off a cliff
in the process. Talking to lawyers, they're talking about capital flight.
All we're seeing is capital flight. You're talking to these lawyers.
They go twelve hours a day. All I do is
meet with people that are leaving the state. It's and
it really is crazy, because Todd, there really is this
underlying belief that none of us believe. It's like people
think it's a ruse. They think there's a more grand
plan behind the scenes.
Speaker 3: There is.
Speaker 4: They really think that they are just the king. They
can lay this out and they will box us in
with exit taxes and things like that, and they think
they're going to get it from us, and they're not.
Speaker 1: Well, they've even said world's are you going to go?
They've they've literally said, we are Washington State. We've got
the seaports, we've got the shoreline, we've got the tech workers.
Who've got the biotech workers. We've got the airports, We've
got the infrastructure. Worlds, Are you going to go?
Speaker 3: They're all leaving.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to guess the s CiU. Was it
the Education Association, the so called teachers union, Yep, yep.
So I would say it's actually I would say it's
upstream from ideology. I would say that you are being
governed by coveting it hatred, yeah, yes, Well, and then
they take those emotions of covetousness and hatred and they
shop it around for a political system where that parks
well for them. And you can use any political system
for that. And they look at people like you, who
they feel bullied by because you just said, look, I'm
gonna be rich and happy wherever I go, and they're
gonna say, well, he stole it from us, right, and
this is the this is Then they take their their
hatred and coveting and they try to make math wrap
around it that you, Zach took money from people who
earn thirty two grand a year to amass your wealth.
It's not that you provide a service. It's not that
you and your wife experience with no one wants to experience,
which is your whole industry going crash when you were
warning them it's gonna go crash. Did you guys have
to start over that? God bless you with this that
you said, we're gonna put God at the center of
what we do. We're gonna put risk management the center.
We're gonna do all this. It's not that you spent
ten years doing this day and night, working with clients.
It's not that you drove up to rich people's homes
and mercer islands in a four door Toyota that people
are going, oh wait, that person must be lost because
that can't go on the island. Phone calls on the way.
We got some of the you know on are the
slurkerses here? Oh no, we're having this. We're having the
a gardener come out and to be an intern gardener.
And it turns out it's you come along. It's not
any of those things. It's that you by force dipped
into people's wallets and done stole their money.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and one of The funny things about that is
I look at him and I go, okay, would you
explain to me the transmission mechanism. Show me where that occurred,
because because all I have done, all I have done
is paid in multiples of what you make total into taxes.
You know, the number one comment I get anytime I
talk to a CPA or a lawyer or anything that
goes through our financials, the number one comment they give is.
Speaker 3: You pay your people way above scale.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 4: So you look at him and go you may think
that you're chasing out evil capitalists. When you chase me out,
you're going to also chase out my overpaid employees that
also pay taxes and own homes and all that. Because
what you don't understand is the big bad business guy
that you think is the problem of everything, he's not.
Actually he's the founder of the feast. Okay, And so
you're not going to have a feast. That's the cruel
reality of it.
Speaker 3: And the way we get rich is by delivering value.
Speaker 4: Say, that's what you don't understand, right, And if we
weren't delivering value, now, if you want to talk about
c corpse, this is like what I was saying, is
like the child mind of the average far leftist.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: Now, some of those things that they say, they've got
a point when you're talking about Wall Street investment banks
and things like that. But where you go off the
freaking rails is when you include every day in small
business owners into that the rules are completely different. Let's
just look at the tax code. A let's make a
delineation between C corps and LLCs.
Speaker 3: How about that, right? Why?
Speaker 4: Well, because the top rate on an LLC is forty
or is thirty eight percent? The top rate on a
C corpus twenty two, let's start there. So by definition,
everybody that owns an LLC is.
Speaker 3: Paying their fair share.
Speaker 4: Right, and then on top of that, that doesn't include
B and O and ex size taxes and sales taxes
and extra b and O taxes, and transportation taxes and
tolls and tabs and proper tax.
Speaker 3: And all that gas tax.
Speaker 4: So you just look at them and go, where is
this myth? I'm at forty one percent, I'm at forty
one per you're talking if you're talking about your billionaire
donors that live off of interest and take loans against
their assets, you're right, they're not paying anything into the kiddy.
Speaker 3: But that's not who your bill is targeting. It's targeting
small and family owned businesses that also, by the way,
employee sixty five percent of the people in the state.
So it's just bizarre.
Speaker 4: Like the if you look at the subsect of people,
it's like, why I bring up the interest carried loophole,
the carried interest loophole?
Speaker 3: Right, I'm sitting there going.
Speaker 4: If you believe what these politicians are telling you, the
most egregious loophole in the tax system is carried interest.
It is a loophole that was designed by rich people
to game the system. Right, and it's it's nonsense. Right,
Democrats shot that down.
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty four.
Speaker 4: Kristen Cinema was the deciding vote, right, And if you
go back and look at the met you can you
can play it any way you want. Nobody had a
supermajority in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3: So what does that mean.
Speaker 4: It means Congress was split and you had just as
many Democrats against it as you did Conservatives. What does
that tell you? It tells you that what they're telling
you is nonsense. Why didn't they vote for the repeal
of the carried interest loophole because all those people stuff
their pockets full of money to not.
Speaker 1: Do with the carried interest loophole. So if I'm looking
at this from the perspective of an SEIU or Education
Union true believer, I'm looking at everything you just said
and then going like this, yeah, Butt, I hate you.
Speaker 3: Yep, Yep, that's it.
Speaker 1: That's it, yep. But we're charged. And you can say
that all day long and la la la la la
la la lah. We'll go for them later. We're using them.
And this is what socialism does. You and I have
to have a a as guys who are try I
tried to be animated by the word of God. I
try to look at news through the eyes of Christ,
which I can't do because I'm not Him. But for
me it's is it biblical? I'm gonna look at every
news story and say, is it biblical? In this case
what we've just been talking about. I see hatred and
coveting and theft and lording power and in fact destroying
this this stewardship of finances.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 1: But you and I have to talk about the war
and some tweets and then your forecasting. Guys, this is
so important to understand, I'm going to tell you something
about Zach. He is not excited to tell you what
he's about to tell you. I'll just tell you that
that it is a truth that must be spoken. We'll
talk about this second. Let me give you an example
of relocation. My friend Steve Anderson when he started Renewed Healthcare,
which is the world class stem cells. Zach's been there.
I've been there. I've been there three times. I'm going
back for their anti aging program. I cannot wait. My
friend Mark runs our life group. He's down there next
week to get the use of his hands back because
he's got the uh he's got bat arthritis. Everything else
is solid with him. He's gonna use stem cells for that.
He's going through the reverse aging program. Can't wait to
see how that goes. Steve is in Mexico because the
stem cells he uses there are illegal the United States
because they're too good. Let me just compare frozen stem
cells and a little thing about the size of a
cigarette container, frozen for hoverlong, taken from whomever with what
other health condition, where they injected with m RNA, don't know,
don't care, shipped around the country, bounces around in a
FedEx truck singing in a chiropractor's office. Who's going to inject.
Speaker 3: You with them?
Speaker 1: Versus the stem cells at renew taken from the literal
delivery room from a woman they know whose health they've monitored.
They've monitored the health of the fetus. They take the
umbilical cord, they take the placenta, They take it down
to their lab. It's a five minute walk. They analyze them.
They reject eighty percent to ninety percent of the cells.
They take the ten percent and they culture them. And
the morning they inject you, they check to make sure
the cells are still very active. Which one's better? Gas station,
sushi or something cut in front of you? In front
of you. Steve Anderson doesn't want to be in Mexico.
He likes it. He'd really do this United States. And
by the way, the United States, Steve Anderson could build
a clinic here in a week. He could unbox it
in a week. So if you want real healthcare, you
want to be the CEO of your healthcare. You want
to go where care is actually legal. You want the
use of your hands, back or your knee. You want
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my friends, chief and vestment officer Bulwarck Capital Management, and
a guy who's not going to take any big thrill
in this discussion because it's a hard thing. Zach's a
conservative and a Christian man. But you had a very
similar response that I did to President Trump tweeting, and
I believe it was on Easter morning, This ridiculously horrible
threats to destroy an entire civilization and never come back again,
not to mention his use as the f words, you
f ing b words. Open the strait and let's start there.
But then let's quickly get into you guys looking at
this simply as financial forecasters. That was your job. What's
likely to happen financialized? So you had to look at
the war contingency. So here we go. You saw the tweets.
Speaker 4: I call these bad business discussions, right, meaning meaning they
don't make you any any friends.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: The people that already hate you, it's not going to
win you any favors. There.
Speaker 4: The people that love you, the majority of your supporters,
they're not going to be happy about it. But I
think you feel similarly to I that I do, which is,
when you dedicate your life to following Christ, you're going
to fail at it all the time. Right, It's like
a it's a it's a game of failure. But at
the same time, you've you've elected to live your life
by a rule of laws that are higher than man's. Yes,
and I and I think that that obligates you to
tell the truth, especially when it's not popular, indeed, especially
when it makes you hated, especially when it costs you. Right,
and I talk my kids about that all the time.
I'm like, you know, the way you know that it's
the most important time to tell the truth, it's when
the cost is the highest.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: I found it completely repugnant. I found it reprehensible. I
found it disgusting. I didn't want to be associated with it.
And the reason why is it does not correspond to
my understanding of the way that we are.
Speaker 3: Challenged to act.
Speaker 4: It doesn't correspond with the way that I believe that
we were challenged to speak. I don't think it corresponds
with our general respect toward human life. I do not
think it's reflective of our values as a country. Certainly
not reflective of my values individually, and especially in my
opinion when.
Speaker 3: It's the result of a series of.
Speaker 4: Undescribable and irrational decisions.
Speaker 3: And I would be happy to explain what I mean
by that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let's get to the rationality of this in
a second. But let's start with something that that that
we're told to do. We're told to take all thoughts
captive to Christ. Okay, and how do we do that? Well,
we have the fruit of the spirit as a tool.
We've got the definition of biblical love as a tool.
We've got the way Jesus communicated and acted as a tool.
We've got mature Christians people Mum mature, and the faith
in us to run things by wise counsel. We do
that with you, financially and spiritually. So the President puts
out a statement that contains the f words, open this,
open the the fing straight you b words. Does that
contain let's say, patience, kindness, self control?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Does it contain charity, long suffering? No?
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: You could deliver a direct message. The President could say,
look it reluctantly. If you don't open the strait. We're
going to bomb a bunch of your facilities and your
bridges and your power centers. And we don't pray that
civilians aren't harmed, but we're going to destroy these things.
They're going to be gone, they won't exist any longer.
Please just open the street. And then then at one
point to add praise be to Allah and to hear
people like Dnsch, Desuza and Ben Shapiro come out and
defend that as intellectual giant hood. I'm sorry, I'm looking
at that. Then I'm looking at the destroy an entire civilization?
Is that what you mean when you say, yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 4: History is replete with this, and if we haven't learned
our lessons, we're illiterate.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: If you become what you seek to destroy, then that
is the worst outcome. Meaning I know people that yell
Glory be to God when they're about ready to kill
a bunch of civilians.
Speaker 3: And ain't Americans right?
Speaker 4: If we become the monster that we're trying to vanquish,
then we've accomplished nothing.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: The reason what gives us that moral recte, what gives
us that moral certainty of our cause, is that we
don't act like them. And the minute you start doing
like again, I understand, it's just words, and I get
the people that are going to say, Okay, but if
we will not call this out on our side, we
have absolutely zero moral standing to call it out on
the opposite side.
Speaker 1: Exactly, exactly, And yes, it's just words. And Alex and
I were talking earlier, producer Alex about the art of
the deal, and at the second I made this criticism,
I knew people go, well, you don't get it. This
is Trump negotiating Todd. You're never going to get it
to you. He always goes in hard and he always
comes back. And I've said on the show, though, I
get it, but I'm sorry. You work for me, mister president.
You are elected by me. I do not stand with
the desire or even a willingness to wipe from the
face of the earth the Persian society.
Speaker 3: We don't do that. We don't do that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's not Americans, that's not Christians, that's not our game.
Speaker 1: Well, and then I see Ben Shapiro come out and say, well,
in the Bible, in your old old Testament, God tells
people to utterly obliterate, coiled the Jewish people to utterly
obliterate the society multiple times in the Old Testament. It's
not new for God to do this. And maybe God's
saying that that that President Trump should go utterly obliterate
the society. Why are you surprised by this? This is
in the Old Testament.
Speaker 4: Yeah, do you make your wife stay in a red
tent when she's menstruating too? Like, meaning there's a new contract?
Speaker 1: Could we take that out later? Because I actually do
do that. My wife has asked me not mention that.
Speaker 3: No, no, look, and I'm not called like, I know
my Bible. I love it.
Speaker 4: I'm a guy that believes that the living the Old
Testament is living just like the New Testament. But I
also recognize that like there was a there was a
new deal, right, there was a new deal. And you
notice Jesus never wants to asked anybody to roll into
another country and kill all their firstborn right, maybe that
was part.
Speaker 1: Of the new deal, and there were reasons by that
In the Old Testament, the context matters. Those cultures were
seeking to infiltrate the Jewish people and have their idols
inserted into their households and seduce their men into having
sexual relations with these temple prostitutes male and female, to
distract them from falling God. They were to be in
the world and not of it, so God said to them,
and they were warned. The prophets went to them and warned,
these people, leave the Jewish people alone, don't do this.
All that context matters. Jesus came and fulfilled the law.
And I know there's going to be people going, oh, okay,
so you say the Old Testament stands todd but not
the red tenth thing, right, because Jesus made very very
clear on issues of hygiene, et cetera. It's not what
goes into the body. It's not the state of how
you look, the whitewash tomb thing. It's what you speak.
This is what can poison people.
Speaker 3: It's what you.
Speaker 1: Speak, et cetera. He clarified a lot, some things, he
made harder, some things that hes some people would say
he made softer because we've got redemption in him. We
can be rescued by him, and you know that's available that.
But on this is the front that's interesting to me
is you guys, are you're a Christian man. Clearly you
and I felt the same way about these tweets, and
I believe if we're going to go to war, do
it reluctantly. And if we're going to go to war,
say to our war fighters, okay, we're going. You guys
go in and you kill the enemy soldiers and you
break their things as quickly as you can avoid civilian deaths.
Be prayerful about this. Come home alive. We love you.
You're the best military in the world. Go get it done.
Come home alive. Have restraint. But Zach, we should be
praying every morning, Lord, is this righteous? Do you bless this?
Can we do this in a way? You bless? And
we should mourn every single death, even the death not
during the battle, but even afterwards. We should be burning
to death. These are God's creation. Look at these dead bodies.
Look at this. Oh Lord, Oh have mercy, because I'll
remind people this. God said, he who extends mercy will
receive it. So on judgment Day you could be sitting
there saying, Lord, have mercy, and he who go schurey,
I'll give you just as much as you gave them.
How's that?
Speaker 4: And just like you and I said, guys, I get it.
I'm with you. If you think on the other side.
But you've got to remember something. It's when we feel
the most justified to take those actions, is when it's
the most important.
Speaker 3: We don't right like that.
Speaker 4: That's the whole game, right is death of the flesh,
death of dying to self, right, adhering to a higher standard.
Speaker 3: And that's that's not what we're doing.
Speaker 4: And that was and that's the part of that next
conversation where you go, this was flawed from the outset.
Speaker 1: This is the part. So you guys at Bulwark, you know,
this is my wife and I my wife and have
most of our money with you are their assets elsewhere
and land, et cetera. But you guys sat down and
look at this from a financial perspective. This is going
to be a huge world event. You got this webinar
coming up, you guys are doing one April twenty six,
three thirty pacific. Know your riskpodcast dot com. You can
go do that. You got to talk about these things.
But just by financial forecasting, you guys said, okay, what's
the likely outcome on this war? And tell people what
you delivered in terms of the likely outcome of this war.
Speaker 4: Well, the great thing about this is when you do
a daily podcast like ours.
Speaker 3: You don't have to take my word for it. You
can go back and read the receipts yourself.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but no, you said, yeah, right, I'll go back
to the beginning, the very beginning, when we first moved
a carrier into the Persian Gulf. Okay, I think it
was the Reagon was that it, I think? So anyway,
move the carrier into the golf. And at that point
are my head of research, who used to work for
Air Force Intel. He's like, oh, we're going to go
on Iran, and I was like, I disagreed.
Speaker 3: He and I disagreed.
Speaker 4: And the reason I disagreed was because our assessment from
the outside was that the only reason to go in
Iran anymore would be regime change, meaning you took out
the nuclear facility as best we can tell, right, And
I think our actions in Iran have proven that because
you've noticed nobody's claiming victory of taking out another nuclear force, right,
which means they pretty much got it. So we were
looking at that and saying, what have we learned through history? Again,
an aerial bombing campaign in military history has never resulted
in regime change ever.
Speaker 3: Okay, So.
Speaker 4: What our first thought was, well, why would you expect
this to work? And I believed Trump, and I think
Trump has been good to his promise. I didn't think
he ever intended to put boots on the ground, and
I think he didn't want to.
Speaker 3: And I still believe that. But our whole thought, and.
Speaker 4: I want people to realize this, it wasn't that we
were against it. If you weren't going to put boots
on the ground, there was nothing to accomplish. Now you're
going to hear people come out and say, well, we're
going to get their uranium. I said this about two
weeks ago. The minute the uranium topic came up. I
actually took that as a sign that we were close
to a resolution. Why did I take that as a
sign to a close to a resolution? Because the only
reason that you would include include the uranium in any
deal is so you could look back at the American
public and say, look what we got. Meaning taking their
uranium means nothing. They can have it back within six
to three to six months. They have the ability to
make it internally. That's not the real trick. Even enriching
uranium isn't the real trick to make a nuclear bomb.
So it's it's it's a total non sequent right it.
They pivoted to uranium when they realized they had just
entered into an extraordinarily concave outcome scenario, meaning virtually no
upside and all downside if you're not willing to put
boots on the ground, right, And so people have been like,
I don't know why you're against the war, and I go,
I'm not. You're not listening to what I'm saying. I
think the Iranian regime is awful. I don't think Trump
is willing to risk another Iraq And by putting boots
on the ground, that's what you do because the minute
you put soft targets in play, you can't if twenty
of them get blown up by a missile, you can't
just say, oh, that's no good route.
Speaker 3: Right now you're in it.
Speaker 4: And we just never thought he was willing to He
is demonstrated now that he's not willing to put boots
on the ground. And so that goes back to my
original question. If we weren't ready to put boots on
the ground, why did we go there in the first place.
Speaker 1: You guys made another prediction economically, and it was real
it was oil.
Speaker 3: Right, So what we said, and this is just through
basic research.
Speaker 4: Remember, I don't have access to Masad until we just
I give my researchers.
Speaker 3: They're really good, a lot of credit.
Speaker 4: But they really dug into this and they said, listen,
for the last twenty years, Iran's entire defense strategy is
the straight They have geared everything toward it.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: It reminds me of like.
Speaker 4: Lord of the Rings when they go Saarron is bent
on the ring, right, all of his energy is focused
on it. Yeah, that was their strategies. They become an
extremely effective porcupine. So the question everybody was asking the
wrong question. The question wasn't can you go in there
and beat them? Yes, we can beat them with our
slippers on. That's not the question.
Speaker 3: The question is once the strait is closed, which faries
through twenty percent of global oil supply. Okay.
Speaker 4: And the other thing people don't understand about oil. If
you're three percent short or you're eleven percent short, the
outcome is virtually identical.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: It's not one of those things where you're like, oh,
well we still have eighty percent.
Speaker 4: Twenty percent of people aren't gonna be able to turn
their lights on, right, That's not how this works. It's
a much more acute issue. So going into Iran never
should have been a conversation about who's going to win.
The conversation would have been about so when we moved
on Iran. Here's how convinced we were of this. When
we moved on Iran, I looked at my head of
research and I said, holy smokes man, they must have
a plan for the straight Like I was sitting there, going,
this is going to be crazy. I don't know what
they've got planned, right, Like, they must have a plan.
They didn't have a plan. They didn't have a plan.
And if here I don't say this.
Speaker 3: This, here's the heck outemy.
Speaker 4: I don't say this to brag, to stick our chests
out to say we got it right. I say it
because it scares the living heck out of me. The
two guys sitting in an office in downtown Tacoma were
able to ascertain the exact problems, the exact choke points,
and said, we think within six to eight weeks will
end up having to leave, and it's probably going to
be with Iran in a better position than they were
to start.
Speaker 1: And I just guess what here we are? I just
say this, Zach. You know Bulwark. You guys do what
you do and you're the best at it. But I
would say this. I think there was a plan militarily.
I'll tell you why, because all the steps I went through,
talking with my friends who served in you know, Team guys,
Tim Krukshank, Michael Rocar, the people there was taking up Maduro,
then positioning in Greenland and going in and trying to
block China and Russia. And I think they had a
plan for the street armits. I think it involved navy seals.
I think it involved drone submarines, drone boats. I think
the drone boats are going to go off and set
off his explosives, drone subs. I think they had sealed teams.
I understand Delta. Was there a Delta team? I understand
sealed team sixers in there. And then here's what I
think happened. I think the oil prices skyrocket, and I
think the last person in the room with President Trump
came and said, sir, you're gonna lose the midterms. Gas
prices are going to lose the midterms. And I think
that somewhere along the line President Trump looked at that
and said, yeah, you're right, we can't afford to lose
the midterms.
Speaker 4: Well, that that and I think there's another part of
this that again through our research, I can't confirm it,
but it is very clear to us that they know
a lot of people did this, that they greatly underestimated
that the technological advances of their missile systems, meaning their
missile systems.
Speaker 3: Have gotten way more accurate, right, And that was.
Speaker 4: The yeah, And that was the issue with the straight
because they've just packed those They've got missiles everywhere, right,
and I'm talking like not big batteries that are easy
to take out. They were smart about how they did this,
meaning they might have a battery that's only got three
or formoscles on it, well, right, and they.
Speaker 1: Rolled them around on these big transports and then they
roll them back out of these deep, deep caves that
we'd need bunker busters and we could eventually go get
but we need bunker busters all over the place. So
I believe our military. Look, I'm with you, our military
can do anything. But they can't. They can't overcome a
president looking at a massive midterm loss based upon gas
prices when the economy has been his strength. And I
happen to think that, just like with COVID, that President
Trump accidentally gave control of the country to this psychopath Fauci.
I believe this has two wins for the deep state.
I think it puts President Trump at risk for the midterms.
It took his strength the economy because Zach, he was
bringing the economy back. We were a net oil exporter again,
we had manufacturer coming back again, we had sensical tax
cuts again, and they step in, sir, we need to
attack Iran because they're gonna nuke us. And what did
they do with Fauci? You know thirty percent of Americans
are going to die from this flu. Oh, we can't
have that.
Speaker 4: Well, and just so people realize too, like Zach, are
you and so you're saying you don't want to get
rid of the regime.
Speaker 3: No, absolutely, I want to get rid of the regime.
I want them gone. Here's the issue.
Speaker 4: How many American lives am I willing to spend in
that process? And the answer due to recent historical events
when you look at if this goes wrong, right, I
think it would be irresponsible to have a ground invasion
of Iran. Consider you guys much different topography than Iraq.
Iraq is flat, Iran is not. Iran has three times
the population. Okay, So if you use Iraq as an
example of how it can go bad, right, and you
set that to the conditions in Iran, I think that
if you go in there with ground too troops, you
have to be prepared to spend thirty to forty thousand
American lives. Now, that could be off, but in my math,
that seems like a prudent thing.
Speaker 3: Ye, I'm not willing to spend. I'm not willing to
do that. I don't want to.
Speaker 4: I don't want to see thirty forty thousand casks come
back with a flag on it.
Speaker 1: And I don't want to either. I'm so sick of
fighting this. And I said this the other day to
Michael Rourke, who he did a bunch of deployments over there.
I think you've met, Mike, Yes, I know you have
one of our speaking events. I said that to Mike.
I'm sick of the wars. I'm sick. And he goes,
you know what, Todd, I'm sick of having our embassy's attacked.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 1: I'm sick of seeing our marines murder. Todd. I'm sick
of seeing our troops who are simply on patrols in.
Speaker 3: Syria murder, then go in.
Speaker 1: But this is this is him who he did it, Zach.
He's the guy who kicked indoors. Yeah, and Tim's the
guy who kicked indoors. He's the guy who fought literal,
literal battles in actual Babylon. These are guys who did
it like you and I didn't. And they're saying finally
they're going to go get it done. They they were
willing to see the people who are just younger versions
of themselves go face that future, those risks because of
what they've seen from Shia Islam, and they believe that.
They believe Iran is the problem in the Middle East.
Speaker 4: And look, I don't disagree, like I don't disagree with
any of that, but my whole point was you didn't
go in there with that prerogative that read so I
don't I hate halfway pregnant. If you're going to fight
a war, you need to simultaneously say you are turning
off political sensibilities. I detest the idea of putting men
in theater and then making political decisions.
Speaker 3: I think it's detestable. Right right.
Speaker 4: So if you're gonna go in, unleash them with a
plan and go do it, don't do this.
Speaker 1: Right right, And maybe the shakanaw thing is we come
in and we take out like like they did with
that great intel, took out the power base where they're
all meeting in that same place. And this is me
and everybody who's ever served the military is gonna laugh
at me. Maybe we do the thing where just that
night then paratures come in, you know, five thousand of
them into the city. We're going to find every leader
we want the bunkers want to know where they're at.
We're going to hang them, yep, and we're gonna do
it publicly, just like they did to the Iranian protesters.
We're gonna hang them in front of their people. Here
they are, here's their faces, here's the generals. You want
regime change, it's done. This is the regime change, by
the way. We're running things now, and we're gonna run
elections here and you guys get to elect your leaders.
Speaker 4: But again, here's here's one other thing. I want to
answer it into this too. Just see you know now
this is I can't I can't give you my source
on this one. But the other thing is I think
that the belief that the regime was on the ropes
from their own citizen replayed large into this as well,
because I was I've been informed by people in the
know UH that we actually there was a large effort
to get weapons to the Iranian UH, to the Iranian
citizens via the Kurds.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, the Kurds kept the money and kept the weapons
and flipped us off. And I look at that and went,
that's why you don't go around breaking promises to people
and leaving them hanging.
Speaker 5: Which we did to the Curds big time, right, because
that's when told them right, and Saddam came in with
actual chemical weapons and if you doubt that, you can
go watch the videos.
Speaker 3: And we did it to these multiple times.
Speaker 1: We need to talk about one other major thing, and
this has to do with energy policy, and AI will
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I was, this is a horrible thing that happens, and
don't do this. If you hate, you know, get to
the Bible. Give that hate to God. He wants that
from you. He can handle it. But a guy apparently
shot up the door of a city councilman because the
city councilman voted for a data center. And this data
center they're destroying farmlands, water rights, and they are just
destroying energy rates in many sectors. I have really struggled
with this because, you know, the whole free market thing,
here's where I've landed. Utilities aren't free market. They are
monopolies of government. And when these data centers get placed
in people at places like Reardon, Washington. You've ever been
to Ruden, Yeah, okay, so it's a beautiful little time
through it. Yeah, no one really goes into Arden. It's
it's no fence to Reardon. It's but it's it's maybe
two or three cafes and maybe one or two schools.
I think there's you know a couple of churches there.
Nice people I knew people, Farmtown, Farmtown, right, beautiful salts
of the earth. So Google comes along and they need
four hundred acres and they need water, and it's right
on the Columbia River. They get that, and then they
plug into the Ruden energy grid and all of a sudden,
you've got people in Ruden going, wait a minute, why
am I paying twelve hundred a month for utilities? I
can't afford this? And Google says, we don't care. I
think these data companies, these AI companies that a they
are reselling us the whole history of human knowledge they stole,
they're re scrambling and giving to us as if they
created it. So we that's they shouldn't be able to
sell us our own knowledge, b Zach. These guys have
got to be forced to build their own energy production facilities.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is in my opinion, this is a perfect
example of how the idea and definition of capitalism, antitrust,
all of these things need to get modernized because there's
a big part of free markets that work because you
have interconnected incentives.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: So, for instance, if we think about like a small
you know, ironically a small towns like the perfect way.
Speaker 3: To look at this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you have a business in a small town.
That small town's prerogative is to make make a profit.
But that or excuse me, that business is prerogative is
make a profit. But that business, because it's in this
small town, it understands intricately it cannot put making a
profit above the well being of the people that live
alongside of them, because those are their customers, right, they
be cutting off their nose.
Speaker 3: Despite their face effectively, yeah, okay.
Speaker 4: As technology has expanded, so too of the reach of businesses. Okay,
so that dynamic no longer exists. If you think about Google,
how bad is Google damaged? If what they do and
reared and completely kills the entire town, it doesn't matter
to Google one iota.
Speaker 3: Okay. So what that.
Speaker 4: Tells you is that Google is operating outside the bounds
or the constraints that capitalism and free markets are supposed
to provide. Another way you can tell that is that
power generation is not being used to produce products for
that area or just for American citizen, and that power
generation they are effectively selling the product of that halfway
around the world, right at the cost of the people,
at the cost of the people that live there, with
no benefit to the people who live there, right, So
saying that, look, we have to readdefined.
Speaker 3: That is not an example of free markets.
Speaker 4: That is an example of people taking advantage of the
archaic remnants of what was.
Speaker 3: A free market system at one point. Right, they're working
through the loopholes.
Speaker 4: And so when that happens, what we should be saying is, yeah,
you can buy land and put up a data center,
but you don't get a plug into the you don't
get a plug into the public grid, right, And creating
legislation around that, that's simple. It isn't punitive, but it
has no loopholes. No, no, if you want it that
part of that lands you bought, put up solar panels,
put up that gas facilities, you figure it out. But
you're not going to go in here and three x
or utility prices and at our cost to sell data,
our data effectively what your LLM is built off of,
halfway around the world to people that don't even pay
taxes here in our own country.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: Right, So we have to get smarter about this.
Speaker 4: And ironically, if you look at it truthfully and it's balanced.
But this is what the left in this country actually
used to be useful for. Right, That pushback that counterbalance
to big business. Yep, they're captured. Just they're captured even
more so now than people are there right right, because
because those companies have realized that no, no, no, no, don't
back the free market guys, back the regulators and help
them write the regulation.
Speaker 1: Right right, and that way you have Now you have
the the the the let's say, rhetorical remnants of a
republican form of democracy. You know, this is a public
private partnership. But they know that the regulators, they don't.
They're not behold into elections, election cycles, the opinions of people.
That's exactly, that's Zach. That's how they launched the trans thing.
So here's the irony. They went to the back end,
to the human rights commissions, et cetera, the library commissions,
the school commissions before they ever brought it to the voters.
So I think siliconfide look at I said, well that's
a good model. Let's do that.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 4: And then here's the other one that'll that you really
cracks you up too. Right, The profits from that Google,
the profits from that Google data center over there in Rearden, Washington,
the profits that they churn out are going to be
taxed at twenty two percent. The store owner in downtown
Reard and he's going to be taxed at thirty eight.
Speaker 3: There you go. That's democracy and action.
Speaker 1: Baby, Well, it's and democracy.
Speaker 4: Well and then and now Washington State is going we're
going to pass an additional tax that's going to slap
an extra ten percent on that business owner. And again
Google doesn't have to pay it. Hey, let's design an
economic system that absolutely crushes small and family owned businesses
and makes megacap tech companies even more rich.
Speaker 3: That's what they're doing.
Speaker 1: Ye, well said, well said. Appreciate the wise counsel today,
my brother, thank you for coming on, and we'll continue
to pray for your safe exit. I hope you get
out there out of there before they pass that exit tax,
because they're gonna call it the Abraham tax. I know.
Speaker 3: Oh lordy, I'll pray for you.
Speaker 1: Thank you, brother, Appreciate you. This is the Todd Hermit Shaw.
Please go be well, be strong, be kind, and please
make every effort to walk in the light of Christ.