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Speaker 1: This story took place in nineteen seventy eight, when I

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was fourteen years old. I grew up in the deep

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woods of the Catskill Mountains, about thirty miles north of

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Hunter Mountain ski Resort. My grandfather's five hundred acre farm

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bordered many square miles of the state forest. It was

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a dense wilderness, crisscrossed with dirt roads and logging roads,

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and dotted with a few old, abandoned farms. It was

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a remote and desolate area. I've spent my whole life hunting, trapping,

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and fishing those woods. This encounter happened in late October

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on a clear, moonlit night. I was raccoon hunting with

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my uncle. He had some very well trained raccoon dogs

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that always managed to tree at least three or four

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coons every time we went out. It was quite cold

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out that night, and two hours in they were uncharacteristically unsuccessful.

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Finally they started bark hot on a trail. We were

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maybe a mile from my grandfather's farm when we started

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in the direction of their barking. The dogs were across

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the gully up on the next ridge, and my uncle

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and I were walking up an old dirt road that

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would eventually take us up to an old abandoned farmhouse.

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From there, it would be a straight walk down across

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the gully and up to the ridge where the dogs

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had by now treed the raccoon. It was two am

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and we were about two hundred yards from the farmhouse

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when I noticed loud footsteps one hundred yards off to

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my right in the woods. I didn't think much of

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it at first, because I figured it was a big

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deer or a bear, but as we continued up the road,

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I noticed it getting closer. What's more, I could tell

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it was walking on two feet. My first thought was

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that it was another hunter, but that made no sense.

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Only raccoon hunters hunt at night, and there were no

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other dogs in those woods. Then I noticed how heavy

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the steps sounded, crunching branches, and being quite obvious, I

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asked my uncle if he was hearing what I was hearing,

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but he said no. He had served two tours in Vietnam,

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so his hearing was bad from all the concussion blasts

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during combat. He had a hard time hearing low frequency

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noises like footsteps in the leaves. He was a real badass,

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with many confirmed kills and multiple gun wounds and hand

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to hand combat knife wounds, so he wasn't afraid of much.

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He'd also grown up in these mountains, as did three

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generations of our family. He told me it was my

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imagination getting away from me, so I just said, well, okay,

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and I kept walking. I was starting to get nervous, though.

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All we had were our twenty two rifles and a

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twenty two caliber pistol. Whatever was coming towards us sounded big,

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and they weren't going to be much protection against whatever

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this thing was. It started walking parallel to us, while

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edging closer to the road, until it was obviously really close,

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and my uncle finally put his hand on my chest

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and whispered for me to stop. We stopped, and it

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continued about two more steps, and then it stopped too.

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Now my uncle knew there was definitely something out there,

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maybe thirty feet to our right. We started walking again,

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and so did it again. My uncle put his arm

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up to stop us, and just like before, it took

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a couple of more steps and it stopped as well.

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I could feel the apprehension from my uncle. The full

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moon was bright enough to light the road, but we

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could not see into the dense forest. My uncle shined

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his flashlight into the woods, but they were just so

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thick he couldn't see anything. Let's keep moving, he said.

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It continued to follow us. Now I could tell my

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uncle was getting real nervous. This thing was bipedal and

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it was large. By the time when we reached the farmhouse,

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it was only a few yards away. We quickly got

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up on the broken down porch and turned to face

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our stalker. The beast kept coming. Just when it was

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about to break into the clearing in front of the house,

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it stopped. We stood there, not knowing what was going

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to happen. Next, he shined the flashlight into the woods

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and could vaguely see a large figure just inside the

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tree line. It was impossible to make out any detail

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other than it was very dark in color and at

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least three feet taller than my uncle, who was about

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six foot two. This thing was massive. It filled the

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air with a musky stench, and for the first time

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in my life, I could tell that my uncle was

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actually afraid. Suddenly, it started to walk to the right,

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down through the woods, away from the house. We could

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hear it leaving as it stomped down the hill. Until

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we could not hear it anymore. We waited ten minutes,

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listening for any more movement. It was silent, so we

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started down the gully up to the ridge where the

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dogs were still barking. We got there without further incident,

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shot the coon, bagged it, and in decided to call

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it a night. Although we didn't see or hear anything again,

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we noticed the woods were unnaturally quiet, like they were

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devoid of wildlife. The dogs were acting strange, too, They

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kept sniffing the air and whining all the way back

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to the truck. We'd never seen the mac like this before.

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My uncle sold all his coon dogs shortly after that

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and didn't hunt at night anymore. When people ask him

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why he quit coon hunting, he tell them he wasn't

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making enough money on the pelts to make it worth

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his wild I knew that wasn't true. Back then, pelts

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on a big coon so for forty five dollars more

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than enough to make pursuing that hobby worthwild If I

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asked my uncle what he thought it was that night,

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he won't talk about that, not even to me. He

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rarely hunts during the daytime anymore, neither do I. For

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that matter. I had seen very large barefootprints in the

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snow when I was trapping for muskrat a few years earlier,

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so I'm pretty sure I know what was stalking us

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on that cold October night. If it wasn't Bigfoot, what

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could it have been. I've had other encounters. I've smelled

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him and since his presence, but never really actually seen

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one clearly. But those are stories for another time. My

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account of this event is exactly as it happened. I

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would swear on my children. They are a fact. I

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appreciate having an outlet to share my experience and knowing

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there are others who have had similar encounters. I don't

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fill alone on this subject anymore. Bigfoot is alive and well.

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My cousin from West Tennessee was visiting me this past weekend.

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We got to talking about Bigfoot, and I shared some

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of your videos with her. She didn't say much that night,

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although I do think she enjoyed the videos. The next morning, however,

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she shared the story with me. It was about something

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that happened to her daddy way back in the nineteen forties.

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Back in those days, people walked everywhere they went and

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rural areas cars were rare and the roads were not

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well maintained. Walking was the most natural method of transportation.

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One night, as my uncle was walking past an old cemetery,

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he glanced over and saw something. Couldn't quite make it out,

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but he thought it might be a really tall person.

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The person seemed to be leaning up against a tree

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at the edge of a clearing, and it wasn't moving,

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nor did he, and judging by his height, he thought

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it must be a man, and it acknowledged my uncle's presence. Naturally,

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he called out to the man, but again it didn't respond.

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He thought, and maybe this was someone who was in

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trouble and needed help. Maybe this was someone he knew,

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and therefore he absolutely could not pass without offering his assistance.

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So he walked over to whoever this was. He reached

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out and put his hand on the man's arm. Immediately

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he knew this was a long, muscular, hair covered arm,

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too much hair to be human. Before he could recover

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from his shock or react in any way, this creature

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turned and ran away into the woods, leaving my uncle

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standing there dumbfounded. My cousin had heard this story all

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over life, but the term bigfoot and sasquatch had never

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been used. No one had heard those words when her

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daddy had the encounter. Later when people started using them,

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it just never occurred to anyone to associate those words

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with what he had seen. My cousin now thinks this

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is exactly what her daddy encountered, though, based on the

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descriptions I've give given her of what these things look

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like and the stories she heard on your videos, she

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is sure it had to be a bigfoot, and I'm

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inclined to agree. This all took place in McNary County, Tennessee.

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Some of your listeners might recognize that as being Beaufort

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Pusser's Neck of the woods. Anyway, I thought you might

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enjoy hearing this little story, and it is true. When

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I was young, I spent most of my time in

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the woods. I lived with my mom and dad out

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in the country. My grandma and Grandpapy lived just over

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in the next county as the crow flies. It wasn't

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far at all, and I spent a lot of time

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at their house as well. I remember my Grandma always

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telling me to stay out of one particular holler that

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had a creek running through it. She always said there

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was wooly boogers over there, and they'd get me. My

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Grandpappy always called them wood boogers, but he always said

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the same thing thing, stay out or they would get me.

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Since it was one place I was told to stay

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away from, I just thought Grandpapy must have had a

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still back there. I said, Okay, I won't go there,

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and I never did. I didn't know until years later

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that they were talking about Bigfoot at home. I ran

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at will over one hundred plus acres that my uncle

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owned next to us. He never went there, so it

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was my own little piece of heaven. There were other

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big farms around us, and the farm kids roamed anywhere

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and everywhere on all of these farms. Nobody much cared.

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We all knew who was who's and what we could

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do and what we couldn't do. And trust me, my

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neighbor would whip my butt and send me home for

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doing stupid stuff I wasn't supposed to be doing. When

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I'd get home, my dad would whip my butt again

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because the neighbors had called him. That's just how it

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was in those days. That was back around nineteen seventy

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two or seventy three. On my uncle's land. I was

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the king. I had treehouses everywhere, and I had underground

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forts and tunnels all over. I made a big clearing

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out of those woods and built me a lean to

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to camp out in. I even had a fire pit

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ringed with big rocks, and it was a cool setup.

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In summer. I lived in those woods more than at home.

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My mom and dad work, so the woods were home

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to me. I'd get up in the morning, eat a

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bowl of cereal and make myself a pile of pbn

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jy sandwiches and wrap them up and grab a couple

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of apples or bananas and put it all in a

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brown paper lunch sack, and I was set for the

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day and out the door and gone. First I'd go

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to the lean to and put my stashus sandwiches and

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fruit in there where it was cooler. Then I became

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Daniel Boone or Davy Crockett, not head off to build

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a new tunnel or add on to a treehouse. One day,

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I went back to the lean to to get my lunch,

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but I couldn't. My lunch was gone. I had to

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go back home and make more sandwiches. It really hacked

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me off. Somebody stole my lunch and I don't remember

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spending a lot of time in the woods. After that,

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I spent more time with my grandpa and Grandpapy. Somewhere

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around this time, I started having a bed wetting problem.

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I've never had any problems before. I also started having

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this very same nightmare over and over. In my dream,

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I would run into our living room and the front

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door would be wide open. Through the window, i'd see

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our refrigerator out in the lawn. The door would be

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open and the light was on inside it. Our food

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was laying out in the snow, and I would hear

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my dad yelling and fighting with someone or something. It

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would scream back really loud, and Dad would holler at

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whatever it was. Later, we moved just over up the

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road from my grandma and Grandpa's place. There were woods

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behind our new house, and one day while I was

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out in them, I ran up on two boys about

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my age. They lived about a mile or two back

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on another road. We worked in Tobacco and hey in

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the summer, so when I saw an old Harley, I

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bought it for cheap, and my dad helped me fix

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it up so I could ride it back and forth

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to work on various farms. I used to ride it

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to Grandma and Grandpa's house as well. A few years later,

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when I was fifteen or sixteen, my mom and dad

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went out of town. I called my band and said,

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let's practice at my house. Before long, it was a

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full out party, live band and all, and there were

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girls everywhere. I was drinking some bourbon. Plus I'd been

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playing for an hour or two. I needed a bathroom break.

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There was a line at both of them, so I

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walked out back through the garage into the dark. I

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was relieving myself in front of the garage when my

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brother must have had the same idea, but instead of

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sneaking out into the dark, he came out loud and

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flip on the lights and throwing the screen door open

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and letting it slam. And there I stood like a burglar,

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caught holding the evidence. At that moment, there was a

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sound of limbs breaking in leaves rustling. I looked over

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and froze. My brother saw it, and he frozeen midstep.

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There was a massive beast standing there, and it raised

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up from behind these bushes under a sugar maple tree

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in the yard, ripping branches with its head as it

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stood the sugar maple couldn't have been more than forty

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five or fifty feet from us, and it turned and

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ran across the open backyard over to a woven wire

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cattle fence with two strands of bob wire over the top.

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This thing was nine feet tall, It was dirty white,

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and had a head as big as a bushel basket.

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We stood there and watched it until it disappeared in

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the woods over the fence. It stepped over the fence

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in one stride. It wasn't a jump or a bounce,

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It just stepped over there. I stood, my tackle still

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in my hand and my mouth hanging open. My brother

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was standing beside and a little behind me. Somebody started

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out the door and laughed because all he saw was

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me standing there, tucking myself back into my pants, and

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my brother asking what the crap that thing was, and

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me telling him that it was a bigfoot. I walked

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over to my harley and I got on it. I

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drove off in the opposite direction from where the monster

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had just ran. I rode down the road and deeper

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into the sticks. Eventually I had to pull over because

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I got to shaking so bad. Memories came flooding back

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to me from my childhood. I was back in the

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woods when I was eight or nine and waking up

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in my lean to a bigfoot stepped out of it,

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eating my apples with my sack lunch in its massive hand.

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It turned and screamed so loud, with so much force

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that it hurt me, and it shook my insides. I

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think I had blocked it out. It wasn't in my

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memories until I saw this white one. It all came

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back to me. It had screamed at me, and I

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had wet my pants. This huge, hairy, black and brown

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monster screamed at me, and I honestly had no memory

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of it at all. I instantly knew what the meaning

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of my dream was too. My father was a World

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War Two vet. He walked up out of the water

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onto the Omaha Beach on d Day and walked across Europe,

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fighting all the way. My father was my hero, even

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after he died, and to this day he still is.

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My dream represented him fighting the bigfoot in our front

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yard to get back the food that was taken from me.

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So there I sat out on this little road, crying

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and shaking like a dog, passing a peach seed. It

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took me a while, but I finally got myself back together.

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I rode to town, where I passed a pool room.

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There were a few bikers I knew that playing a

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game of pool with one of the boys I had

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met in the woods behind my house years earlier. I

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decided to tell him about the massive white bigfoot I

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had just seen run across my yard. I told him

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had disappeared into the woods heading back to this old

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house that he grew up in. Well, he stood there

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for a second, looked at me like I was nuts.

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Then he laid his que on the table and said,

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come on, motioning for me to follow him. He and

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I walked outside, and he said, follow me up the road.

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We rode our bikes to a driveway just out of town,

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where we pulled up and stopped. What are we doing here,

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I asked, This is where my little brother lives. Now,

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he told me. Then he laid on the horn. The

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porch light came on, and his little brother stepped out

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on the porch and waited as we crossed the yard.

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After we sat down, he said, tell him about what

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you told me at the pool room. Now, I was

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getting angry because I was beginning to think he just

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brought me so he and his brother could get a

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laugh at me. But when he said, no, really, just

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tell him, I took a deep breath and repeated my

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story about what I'd seen earlier that night. As I spoke,

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the younger brother's eyes widened and his face paled. When

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I was done, the older brother apologized to him for

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not believing him believe him about what I asked. The

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younger brother then told me his story. He reminded me

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that the old house where they grew up had the

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kind of big windows that go from just above the

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floor and almost to the ceiling. Back in those days,

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country folks put curtains on just the bottom half of

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those windows. The top was left uncovered. My grandparents had

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these kind of windows, too, and I remember how I

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used to look out at the stars at night when

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I stayed with them. The younger brother went on to

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tell me how he had woken one night to see

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this huge white haired thing looking down at him from

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outside in the window. It was just a little taller

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than the window, and it scared him so badly he

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just laid there. He was too scared to move or

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even to scream. When he tried to tell his parents

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about it, they just laughed and told him he was dreaming.

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His older brother didn't believe him either. On many occasions,

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he even made fun of him about it. The younger

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brother went on to say that the creature never showed

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any aggression towards him. He never felt threatened in any way.

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It was the sheer enormity of the thing that had

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frightened him so much. After that, it showed up from

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time to time until shortly after his dad passed away

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and they had moved into town. The younger brother assured

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me that he'd had many opportunities to get a good

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view of it. He described the beast as dirty blonde

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or beige when he first started showing up at the window,

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but over time he began to get more gray. He

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said the eyes were black with very little white around them,

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and sat back under a heavy brow. His face looked

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like an old catcher's mitt, but wrinkled. His teeth were

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like big square blocks and kind of yellow. He never

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opened his mouth much beyond a narrow opening that looked

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sort of like a shy grin. There was this one time, though,

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when he opened his mouth wide but he was looking

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out across the yard. His eye teeth were long enough

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to hang below the other teeth, so not so long

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as to be construed as fans. He had thin lips

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stretched across a wide mouth that seemed to go all

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the way across his face. He said he never saw

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where the nose started at the top, but it was

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very wide and didn't stick out very far. He remembered

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thinking when it first started coming to the window. He said,

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if he had punched it in the nose, his fist

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would only cover one nostril. He knew that sounded funny,

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but it was true. The nose was that white and

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had big, flared nostrils. He also admitted the nose might

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have seemed exaggerated because he was looking straight up the

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thing's nose from down on his bed. He told me

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it had no neck, and the muscles seemed to run

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from his shoulders straight up to the back of his head.

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The chest was so wid that he thought he could

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have stretched his arms out wide and he wouldn't ever

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have reached them all the way across the front. Then,

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he was quick to add that he was just a boy.

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Then it would leave rocks and things on the window ledge.

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There was a big hickory nut tree in the backyard,

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and he thought that's why it was there. He played

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under the tree and pile nuts in his old metal

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Tonka dub truck. He wondered if the bigfoot thought he

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was leaving them there for him. We talked about the

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description he gave me that night many more times after that.

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I joined the army not long after the first night

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we talked. I think my sighting made me a better soldier.

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Dark knights on guard even during firefights. I knew the

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enemy or even our own forces were nowhere near the

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baddest thing out walking around in the dark. When I

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got out of the army, we talked about it again

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on many occasions. His description never changed over the years.

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The old house is gone now, and I drove by

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there a few years ago. Even that old hickory tree

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is long gone. Sadly, my old Harley caught fire and

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burned up, so it's gone too. The brothers moved away

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and I eventually lost track of them. All that's left

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are the memories. But I will never forget my encounter

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that night over forty years ago. If you ask me

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that bigfoot in my backyard was just down south, ducing

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and digging the sounds of the Lennard skinnerd songs that

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we were playing that night, and probably just wishing he

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could come in and party with us. Bigfoot. Oh, I

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hate free I know that has nothing to do with

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this story, but I'd rather hear anything but Freebird by

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Leonyard Skinnyard in anything other than Let it Be by

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the Beatles, Oh my God, or no, not let it be.

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I don't like let it be either, but hate you.

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That Haju song drives me up the wall. And Leonard's

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Freebirdman played so much, I don't know, I just get

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tired of it. But other than that, I like all

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of Skinner's songs. It's just that one. But what am

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I talking about? I don't even know what I'm talking about.

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This is a great story, and this is a memory

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this man has kept all of his life.

