1 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: What is going on? Clippers fans Welcome the season three, 2 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:18,000 episode fifty nine of Clips and Dip. I am Chuck Bugler, 3 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:22,039 joined as always by Adam Oslin and William Updyke. We 4 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,559 are hopefully your favorite Clippers pod. You can find us 5 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,760 anywhere you find podcasts. You can watch us at YouTube 6 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,160 dot com slash at Clippers podcast if you'd like to 7 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:34,119 share our shining faces. Clippers are in the midst of 8 00:00:34,119 --> 00:00:36,000 a standing battle, so we're gonna be doing a quick 9 00:00:36,039 --> 00:00:38,840 standings check. There's some games we should all be hoping 10 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,320 for tonight that go one particular way. We're gonna talk 11 00:00:42,439 --> 00:00:45,679 maybe how we felt about that Pelicans win, and then 12 00:00:45,719 --> 00:00:48,200 the Clippers have a back to back against the MAVs. 13 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,320 But before we get into all of that, it's raining 14 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,240 in Los Angeles all of a sudden, Adam and Will 15 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,479 how you guys doing? How you feeling after that that 16 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,960 Pelicans win? Will how you do? 17 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,079 Speaker 2: I mean, I think Zoo summed it up pretty well 18 00:01:03,079 --> 00:01:05,040 where he was talking about like how it's it's kind 19 00:01:05,079 --> 00:01:07,439 of like f anytime they see the Pelicans on the schedule, 20 00:01:07,519 --> 00:01:11,200 for whatever reason, no matter what configuration the team has, 21 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,079 they seem to have the Clippers number so uh well, 22 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,319 even though they were down guys, and I think all 23 00:01:16,359 --> 00:01:17,799 of a sudden, you know, this is a must win, 24 00:01:17,879 --> 00:01:20,159 should be kind of a gimme win. Uh, it still 25 00:01:20,159 --> 00:01:22,319 feels good. It still feels good to get one over 26 00:01:22,359 --> 00:01:24,840 on the Pelicans. I do not know why that team 27 00:01:24,879 --> 00:01:28,040 gives us so much trouble, but uh, whatever, man, I'll 28 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:29,200 take the win. I'll take the win. 29 00:01:29,879 --> 00:01:33,599 Speaker 1: What whatever, man, is a good way to look at it. Adam, 30 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,480 how are you feeling? Also, Adam? Is that a new hat? 31 00:01:36,719 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? That's not every episode. 32 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 3: Duffing with me because last time I don't wear my 33 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,879 blue one this time. But yeah, it's one of those 34 00:01:49,439 --> 00:01:52,519 trying to get through it, just like the Clippers were 35 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,239 against the Pelicans, just trying to get through it. They did, 36 00:01:56,439 --> 00:01:59,000 they came out on top. I love how relatable Viasa 37 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,359 the Zoo Bots was postgame in the locker room, expressing 38 00:02:02,439 --> 00:02:04,040 what every Clippers fan feels. 39 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,239 Speaker 2: I like that they're at least aware, you know what 40 00:02:06,239 --> 00:02:08,520 I mean, because it is like, as a fan, it's 41 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,840 been and it's been this way for years, even like 42 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,240 pre two, one, three, Like when the team was rolling, 43 00:02:13,479 --> 00:02:16,000 suddenly they hit the Pelicans and It's like, what the 44 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:17,280 hell is going on here? 45 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 3: I think they have twelve to the last sixteen games 46 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,159 against the Clippers going into that game lesson. It's not unreal. 47 00:02:24,879 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not like it's a very Yeah, it doesn't 48 00:02:28,159 --> 00:02:29,199 make any guys. And like the. 49 00:02:29,199 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 2: Chemistry of it, like the entire y, like configuration of 50 00:02:32,039 --> 00:02:34,520 both teams has changed so much and it just still 51 00:02:34,599 --> 00:02:37,280 doesn't matter. I don't know. I don't get it. I 52 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:37,840 don't get it. 53 00:02:38,479 --> 00:02:41,599 Speaker 1: I'm yeah, incredibly happy we got the win. The Clippers 54 00:02:41,599 --> 00:02:47,159 sit at seventh as of this recording relevant games tonight, 55 00:02:47,759 --> 00:02:53,319 Wolves at Nets, Grizzlies at Heat, and then Warriors at Lakers, 56 00:02:53,599 --> 00:02:56,680 which it's unfortunate both of those teams can't lose. But 57 00:02:57,879 --> 00:03:01,759 I'm not saying we're rooting for the Lakers, but a 58 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,039 Warrior's loss would be nice. That's how I'm going to 59 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:05,520 phrase it. 60 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, he just root for the Warriors, don't think about 61 00:03:10,599 --> 00:03:13,400 the Laker part. Just route for the Warriors to lose tonight. 62 00:03:15,159 --> 00:03:17,639 A couple of interesting things just happened in the other 63 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:23,199 two games. First, John Morant did another gun celebration after 64 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,400 a made shot, which might get him suspended this time. 65 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:34,240 And Anthony Edwards rolled up his ankle on a Nets 66 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,879 coach on the sidelines and had to be I think 67 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:41,879 helped to the locker room. They're playing Brooklyn like the 68 00:03:41,919 --> 00:03:44,560 injury looked a little bit scary. Hopefully he's okay. 69 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:50,319 Speaker 1: Damn yeah, yeah. Timberwolves are up twelve at halftime on 70 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,039 the NET, so I wonder if they just hold him 71 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,919 out of their rest of that game, because theoretically they 72 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,039 should have enough to beat the net's even down at 73 00:03:58,919 --> 00:04:00,639 and the Grizzlies are kind of locked gonna battle with 74 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:06,039 the heat. They're only they're down one at halftime. Maybe 75 00:04:06,039 --> 00:04:08,000 things will go right. I don't know, maybe everyone will lose, 76 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,639 Clippers said at seventh As of this recording, it might 77 00:04:11,719 --> 00:04:15,599 change by the end of this what I want. Who 78 00:04:15,639 --> 00:04:18,480 picked Bogden for Player of the game? Was that will 79 00:04:19,399 --> 00:04:20,199 against the Hells? 80 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,199 Speaker 2: No? I picked? I pick picked in Oh yeah, and 81 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:27,560 I picked But did you pick Bogden? 82 00:04:27,639 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: Adam? No one? 83 00:04:28,959 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 3: I think I picked? Done? 84 00:04:30,759 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: Damn no one did? 85 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 2: Too easy? See another one that's a it's a little 86 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:37,079 too easy. 87 00:04:37,399 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: Maybe we add them to the list. Maybe we can 88 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:46,519 only choose Chris Dunn, Derek or Ben Simmons. Well, Bogden 89 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,360 had a great shooting night. Norm. We talked about wanting 90 00:04:49,399 --> 00:04:56,519 to have a good shooting night and didn't stuck stunk, stunk. 91 00:04:56,879 --> 00:05:02,160 As some Clippers commentators would say, Boggin's trending up, Norm's 92 00:05:02,199 --> 00:05:07,240 doing okay. Does that mean anything heading into the playoffs? 93 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 3: My boy, Bogden's been up. Yo. He shot in March 94 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,759 and I think he played every game. That's sixteen games 95 00:05:16,759 --> 00:05:20,199 from three, Like, Bogden is shooting forty from three as 96 00:05:20,199 --> 00:05:22,240 a Clipper like, and it's been there for like two 97 00:05:22,319 --> 00:05:23,680 weeks now, that same number. 98 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: I don't mean anything for the rotation, Yeah, no, not 99 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,800 not to disrespect how good Boggin's been. I don't mean 100 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,079 it like that, but like I know now, I. 101 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:40,959 Speaker 3: Think it gives an opportunity if Norm is struggling in 102 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,399 a ball game and you want to go a different 103 00:05:43,399 --> 00:05:45,839 direction late in the fourth quarter, he could roll with 104 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,680 Bogden and b shoped it one game. I think it 105 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:52,319 was the game winner from Kawhi that game against Sacramento. Yeah, 106 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,319 and he just rode the hot hand. But then last 107 00:05:55,439 --> 00:05:58,879 night we saw Bogie and Norm playing together, Bogie in 108 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,160 place of Chris Dunn, with the restless starters laid in 109 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:05,879 that game. So he offers a little bit more I 110 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,279 shouldn't say a little bit more. He offers a lot 111 00:06:08,399 --> 00:06:13,639 more self creation and playmaking for others Bogie does. He's 112 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,480 not the guy who can drive past two defenders and 113 00:06:17,519 --> 00:06:19,800 gets to the basket for a quick layup like Norm 114 00:06:19,879 --> 00:06:24,759 Powell can. Or fouls, Yeah, I. 115 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: Mean that's useful. Norm's foul will be useful to play. 116 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 2: Just it's I mean, I understand your point about you know, 117 00:06:32,639 --> 00:06:36,040 like closing lineups and versatility. It's in no way in 118 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,639 either or situation for me, like Bogey is so essential 119 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,439 because the second unit is a little bit skept, like 120 00:06:42,639 --> 00:06:46,040 you know, it's it's a little suspect. You know, there's 121 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,240 some guys, but offensively they can use the lift, and 122 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,519 so I think that both of them call existing makes sense, 123 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,920 not necessarily saying play them together in the same lineups, 124 00:06:54,959 --> 00:06:59,439 depending on the machination. It's still probably not my favorite, 125 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,839 but to me, it's not like an either an either 126 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,560 or situation. Maybe if there's like a hot hand at 127 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,800 the end of the game. But Bogi is very necessary 128 00:07:09,879 --> 00:07:11,160 for the second unit. 129 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,519 Speaker 3: So yeah, it might be either or late in the 130 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:15,920 fourth quarter, is what I'm saying. 131 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:17,279 Speaker 1: Not totally. 132 00:07:17,759 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 3: Not Bogey's gonna start over Norm or anything. 133 00:07:19,839 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: Now, I think there might. I think in the playoffs, 134 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,959 if the Clippers are down O two or something and 135 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,079 Norm's not feeling it, maybe we see a change it, 136 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,399 just like we talked about with the dune thing, right, 137 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,240 like Tyler is not afraid of making those changes. But yeah, 138 00:07:33,279 --> 00:07:34,839 I don't think anything of those. 139 00:07:34,639 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 2: Two players of Chris Dunn and Norm Powell, you know, 140 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,319 playoff situation down to you know, hypothetical, Which of those 141 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,319 two guys do you think is realistically coming out of 142 00:07:44,319 --> 00:07:44,759 the lineup? 143 00:07:45,199 --> 00:07:46,839 Speaker 1: Well, I think it depends how they're playing, too, Right, 144 00:07:46,839 --> 00:07:48,199 If Norms just shooting like shit. 145 00:07:48,079 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 2: I'm saying hypothetical, hypothetical. If you were sitting here right 146 00:07:51,399 --> 00:07:53,480 now and you are to diagnose the problem Clippers are 147 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,720 down O two, who's coming out of the starting lineup, 148 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:57,040 it's probably not normal. 149 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: It's probably not normal unless you's shooting eight percent, unless 150 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:07,720 you shouldn't done percent, It's probably not normal. Oh yeah, 151 00:08:07,759 --> 00:08:13,439 And rightfully so, because we saw very much on display 152 00:08:13,759 --> 00:08:18,439 how a bad defensive team guarded Chris Dunn last night, 153 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,120 which was Kelly Olennok not even looking at Chris Dun 154 00:08:22,959 --> 00:08:25,879 even when he was bringing the ball up like thankfully, 155 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,439 Chris Dunn went four for eight from the floor. I 156 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,360 think he hit two threes in a row, which I mean, 157 00:08:32,399 --> 00:08:34,679 if you bet that, you should probably get some help. 158 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,039 But Tyler mentioned that he trusts to get to the 159 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,120 next action if he doesn't like the shot. But like, 160 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,000 we're gonna see, I'm looking I don't know if looking 161 00:08:44,039 --> 00:08:46,639 forward is the right word. I'm interested to see how 162 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,279 this looks against a better defense than quite literally the 163 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:53,679 worst defense in the league. Over these next two games. 164 00:08:53,639 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 3: I asked coach lupre game about Don versus DJ and 165 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,000 just what he likes one guy is the other and 166 00:09:01,759 --> 00:09:07,679 I specifically asked if it's still matchup dependent and he said, 167 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,840 we're going with Chris Dunn. He's been the guy over 168 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:14,360 the last month, and he likes two things about him. 169 00:09:14,399 --> 00:09:16,759 Another ball handler out there to take a lot of 170 00:09:16,759 --> 00:09:20,480 the pressure off of James Harden and point of attack defense? 171 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 2: Does it? Like? How much pressure is it taking off? 172 00:09:26,039 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 3: Though? 173 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:31,879 Speaker 2: When you have a non shooter and a guy that 174 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,799 is negative gravity on the floor. Again, I'm getting down 175 00:09:35,799 --> 00:09:38,360 on christ A lot of good, a lot of good. 176 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,159 Speaker 4: I don't know how he got into this scenario and 177 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:44,519 now we're I feel like I started this whole thing. 178 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,480 This is my mas. 179 00:09:49,759 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 3: I think there could be something to the fact that 180 00:09:53,799 --> 00:09:57,039 when we all thought for a second, James Harden and 181 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,679 his shooting numbers were way down and it looked worse 182 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,720 than ever and maybe he's hit the wall and he's 183 00:10:03,759 --> 00:10:07,120 over taxed, and then he had a resurgence, and I 184 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:11,120 wonder a lot of that, of course, is about Kawhi 185 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:17,240 getting back to regular minutes, but are they thinking there 186 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,519 is another effect and it's partially on Kawhi and it's 187 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,840 partially on Chris Dunn, to where James Harden is playing 188 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:25,919 much more off ball or not having to bring the 189 00:10:25,919 --> 00:10:28,080 ball to the floor as much, and that is saving 190 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,120 him and that's why he's looked fresher over the past 191 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,960 two or three weeks. I don't know, like I joke 192 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,720 with him so earlier, like he is it an unstatable 193 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:43,080 thing where it's theoretical that if Harden is not bringing 194 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,120 the ball up as much, maybe that's why the shooting 195 00:10:45,159 --> 00:10:45,799 numbers are up. 196 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. 197 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 3: Done is much better at that than DJ. 198 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: And has gotten better at it too, because Done earlier 199 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,279 in the season it was kind of like, oh shit, 200 00:10:57,399 --> 00:11:00,240 we have no one else who can have done I 201 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,080 I was down on him earlier in this season. He's 202 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,120 gotten a lot better at it or just more comfortable. 203 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,799 Speaker 2: He's looked more like what I had expected, because early 204 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,519 in the season I was kind of like, I guess 205 00:11:11,519 --> 00:11:13,320 I had thought that he was more of like a 206 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:18,440 table setter and facilitator. Then he looked at the at 207 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,279 the beginning of the season. But it's definitely like picked 208 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,559 up more to sort of what I was expecting. Yeah, 209 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,960 so that makes sense, and I think, I mean, it's 210 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,039 been more than a month with him in the starting Like, 211 00:11:30,159 --> 00:11:33,600 how many ever since they announced the rotating starting lineup? 212 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:34,879 How many times did DJJ? 213 00:11:37,399 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: He's only when there hasn't been a full lineup is 214 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:41,720 when it was a rotating start. 215 00:11:41,799 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 2: And I mean part of it was part of it 216 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,960 he was Derrey John Junior was out with an injury, 217 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,720 of course, but I think even when he was healthy, 218 00:11:49,799 --> 00:11:53,159 like I'm thinking, like it was two or maybe three. 219 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: Stars, it's been rotating when they've literally had to because 220 00:11:56,159 --> 00:11:59,279 someone's been hurt, Like we haven't had a fully healthy 221 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,559 I don't think we've had a fully healthy roster with 222 00:12:02,639 --> 00:12:05,440 Derek Jones Junior as you start as you were saying, 223 00:12:06,039 --> 00:12:08,759 since yeah, like that announcement or whatever. 224 00:12:09,639 --> 00:12:12,879 Speaker 3: I wonder if they've looked at fourth quarter numbers or 225 00:12:12,879 --> 00:12:16,480 second half numbers with James Harden to see specifically if 226 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,600 he's if it's looked like he's had more gas in 227 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,960 the tank with Kawhi starting next to Dune when they've 228 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,720 had the full roster. Is there something to that because 229 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,440 the logic of getting the best version you can of 230 00:12:28,519 --> 00:12:30,840 James Harden late in the ballgame, but that means playing 231 00:12:30,919 --> 00:12:33,840 Chris Done to start things off. That makes sense to me, 232 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,879 Like if that's working, and the other part of it 233 00:12:37,919 --> 00:12:40,960 is where would you put him? Then what about the 234 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,440 second unit? Can you really put him next to Ben 235 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:49,039 Simmons out there instead of DJ? It's not like the 236 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,840 numbers with Chris Dunn, like he's a net negative out 237 00:12:52,879 --> 00:12:57,240 there and DJ is the net positive. It's like DJ, Yeah, 238 00:12:57,399 --> 00:12:59,720 they're twenty points better at per one hundred possessions with 239 00:12:59,799 --> 00:13:03,039 him in the starting five. Done's like five points but 240 00:13:04,279 --> 00:13:07,480 positive net rating wise, it's not a negative. It's just 241 00:13:07,759 --> 00:13:11,159 going from pretty good to outstanding with DJ. 242 00:13:11,519 --> 00:13:16,639 Speaker 1: Right, and going out standing with D you're the. 243 00:13:16,639 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 3: Same, And that's right. 244 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 2: You brought that up. 245 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:22,919 Speaker 3: Their minutes next to the other four guys are like 246 00:13:23,159 --> 00:13:24,240 almost identical. 247 00:13:24,799 --> 00:13:28,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember you were saying that because in my head, 248 00:13:28,279 --> 00:13:31,519 Done definitely has more right. 249 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,399 Speaker 1: What could have just been recently it's just been like, well, 250 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,840 when we've had the full roster, which has been recently, 251 00:13:36,519 --> 00:13:37,399 Dune's been out there. 252 00:13:37,879 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 3: It probably is true that starting the game off with 253 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,240 those guys, more of those minutes have been done. DJ 254 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,840 has found his way with those guys in other situations, 255 00:13:48,879 --> 00:13:49,840 like later in the game. 256 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, would you say that you were whelmed by the 257 00:13:55,039 --> 00:14:00,120 Clippers performance against the Pelicans, not underwhelmed, not overwhelmed, but well. 258 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,279 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I can't say it overwhelmed, But like, 259 00:14:04,799 --> 00:14:07,639 I don't know, I don't know what it is. I 260 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,600 don't know, I don't know what kind of magic Repelicans 261 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:16,000 are doing pre game, post game, during the game, but uh, 262 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:17,200 it seems to be working. 263 00:14:17,639 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: They're sending that they're sending everyone a bunch of begnets, 264 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:21,440 so everyone's a sleepy. 265 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:24,559 Speaker 2: There's some voodoo going on there, for sure. 266 00:14:25,639 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 3: I'm just glad it's over. 267 00:14:27,639 --> 00:14:29,679 Speaker 1: That's how I felt. I was like, this is great, 268 00:14:29,759 --> 00:14:33,279 let's get out of here, get back to La. We 269 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:38,759 have a back to back Adam you Oh shit, that's right. Sorry, 270 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,799 I was out of it. Adam, you talked to the 271 00:14:42,799 --> 00:14:45,440 the Bogie Norm lineup, which I think two and three 272 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,720 Hopes called the all offense lineup. It was Hardened Norm, Bogie, 273 00:14:48,799 --> 00:14:52,120 Kawhi and Zoo. They played seven minutes last night. They 274 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,600 were plus eleven in those seven minutes. This is another 275 00:14:55,639 --> 00:14:59,559 lineup I'm looking forward to seeing against a not dead 276 00:14:59,639 --> 00:15:04,200 last in the NBA, made up of new guys. Defensive stuff, 277 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,399 because this is a lineup. Defensively, it's it's a little 278 00:15:07,399 --> 00:15:11,799 scary you're asking Kawhi suited in quite a bit, but 279 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:16,399 offensively pretty damn good. You got a lot of bases 280 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:17,480 covered with this lineup. 281 00:15:19,559 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 3: I think they're just looking out score you with that lineup. 282 00:15:22,679 --> 00:15:22,879 Speaker 2: Yeah. 283 00:15:25,279 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 3: Uh. And defensively, you at least have two very good 284 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:33,519 defenders surrounded by three shaky guys that could be undersized. 285 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,240 It's a total matchup dependent thing. I'm guessing you wouldn't 286 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,440 throw it out there against anyone, but I don't know. 287 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,200 That's a lot of shooting. They can definitely overwhelm you 288 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:45,440 with they're shooting with that lineup. 289 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, means right, because if the shooting's not there, 290 00:15:53,639 --> 00:15:55,759 you're bleeding points. Because in that lineup too, they were 291 00:15:55,840 --> 00:16:01,559 plus seven or whatever they were giving up looks at the. 292 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,279 Speaker 2: I mean, the Cleveland game is such an outlier, but like, 293 00:16:03,639 --> 00:16:06,120 I don't feel good about this team in a shootout, 294 00:16:06,639 --> 00:16:09,559 Like I know, if that's the situation that we're in, 295 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:13,559 I don't feel great about that. And yeah, like situationally 296 00:16:13,639 --> 00:16:15,320 or against a certain line up, Sure, maybe that's what 297 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,480 it calls for, but uh, I'm probably not bagging to 298 00:16:18,519 --> 00:16:20,879 see a lot more of this lineup. It's like antithetical 299 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,600 to the to the makeup of the team success. 300 00:16:24,799 --> 00:16:27,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, like I I like it. 301 00:16:27,559 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 2: I like these guys. I like these guys, but it's 302 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,679 not something I'm probably probably clamoring to see a whole 303 00:16:34,679 --> 00:16:36,960 lot of because I feel like that means things are 304 00:16:37,759 --> 00:16:39,840 things have gone a little haywise, Yeah, we're down. 305 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: I think if we see that lineup, we're over, Like 306 00:16:42,159 --> 00:16:43,279 we need some quick and this. 307 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 2: Was a game where things kind of went a little like. 308 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: What I'm saying, I was whelmed. Did we see it all? 309 00:16:50,399 --> 00:16:53,360 The lineup that's only played seven minutes that we want 310 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,799 to see, which is uh Ba doom with the starters basically, 311 00:16:57,159 --> 00:16:58,480 did that play it all last night? 312 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:00,879 Speaker 3: I don't believe. 313 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: I don't think. I think two and three would have 314 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:03,840 tweeted about it. 315 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was looking forward. I was paying attention to 316 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:13,039 the second quarter and fourth quarter lineups that second, you know, 317 00:17:13,079 --> 00:17:15,880 with Kawhi next to Ben Simmons next to Bogie DJ 318 00:17:16,319 --> 00:17:19,799 and the tomb I was tracking that. So yeah, I 319 00:17:19,839 --> 00:17:20,720 don't think they did it. 320 00:17:21,599 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: Hmm, hold it back. They're holding the back quite a bit. 321 00:17:34,559 --> 00:17:37,279 We'll see. Man, it's been a it's a long fuse. 322 00:17:38,079 --> 00:17:43,200 Let's just to let that thing go. I do want 323 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:48,640 to see I do want to see that lineup more 324 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,559 than the all offense lineup, to Will's point, because that 325 00:17:51,599 --> 00:17:56,359 lineup seems useful on both hands, whereas the all offense lineup, 326 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,640 as we're calling it, is a go get a bucket lineup. 327 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:01,039 Speaker 3: Yeah. 328 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:07,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, well I think that. I mean, Nico is just 329 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,680 so sort of entrenched in this team that I also 330 00:18:10,759 --> 00:18:14,480 understand like maybe there's less of an emphasis on trying 331 00:18:14,519 --> 00:18:16,319 it out. I don't know. I mean, like we talked 332 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,039 last episode, I don't know how KOI you really need 333 00:18:19,079 --> 00:18:21,839 to be with lineups when you're facing the face staring 334 00:18:21,839 --> 00:18:25,079 down the plane potentially. But I do think that there 335 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:29,240 is enough like familiarity, uh and you know, Nico's certainly 336 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,880 been with this team and and these guys enough that 337 00:18:33,599 --> 00:18:37,079 you could feel pretty confident in using that lineup without 338 00:18:37,279 --> 00:18:39,519 necessarily a whole lot of time on the floor. Would 339 00:18:39,559 --> 00:18:41,680 you like to see more of it, of course, but 340 00:18:41,759 --> 00:18:44,799 it's like Nico is so consistent and you he kind 341 00:18:44,799 --> 00:18:47,200 of does the same things in line up to line 342 00:18:47,279 --> 00:18:50,039 up that it's not like it's not a question mark. 343 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,799 You know, there's there's there's another reason and well, like, 344 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:55,680 and that's another reason why I don't think they're being 345 00:18:55,759 --> 00:18:58,519 like super cooy with this as like a tactic, because 346 00:18:58,519 --> 00:19:00,920 it's like, yeah, okay, if you've seen this team in 347 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,759 the playoffs in the last number of years, you've seen 348 00:19:04,039 --> 00:19:06,880 like something similar to these lineups, not with James Harden, 349 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,519 not with Norman starting lineup, but you've seen you've seen 350 00:19:09,599 --> 00:19:11,799 Nico around essentially you've seen the. 351 00:19:11,759 --> 00:19:16,039 Speaker 1: Three four five of Kawhi Nico Zoo. We know, yeah, 352 00:19:16,039 --> 00:19:18,200 for sure, that's a good point. The familiarity is huge. 353 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,599 Speaker 3: I do think that it's part of the reason they 354 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:27,640 can hold it back yeah, mostly knows exactly what he has. 355 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,839 Speaker 2: I like Adam's theory that this is like an elaborate, 356 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,559 rude Goldberg machine to drop a single mentos and night 357 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,759 at coke not to explode. 358 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: That's what it feels like. 359 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 3: Man, lineup's gonna be the fresh Maker Man? 360 00:19:46,279 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so is so Nico's the fresh Maker? 361 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 2: The fresh Maker is the lineup that is. I love that. 362 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: That's what worked. That's what this lineup is called. Is 363 00:19:55,200 --> 00:20:02,160 the Freshmaker? Any other thoughts on the the Pels Gay 364 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,880 light up stuff before we get to the map the 365 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,160 two and one match review, because it's a back to back. 366 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 3: When Kawhi Leonard postgame is admitting that the first game 367 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,279 back after a long road trip when you're still on 368 00:20:16,279 --> 00:20:20,440 the East Coast time is difficult, it probably means it is. 369 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 1: A eats. 370 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:26,079 Speaker 3: The Zoo said that. Carlos said that, you know, he 371 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,200 was on the trip with them the last nine days 372 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,160 they were on the East coast time they come back. 373 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,079 Zoo was like, yeah, it was like we started ten tonight. 374 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:35,839 Speaker 2: He was tiring. 375 00:20:36,319 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 1: Issue. 376 00:20:36,799 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 2: Isn't it the same issue for the Pelicans because they 377 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,440 live in East Coast time, but for some reason in 378 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:44,319 the Western conference. 379 00:20:44,319 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 3: Well, you accept a road teams trouble though typically they're 380 00:20:48,039 --> 00:20:49,160 they're the home team in this. 381 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 2: Case, That's what I'm saying. You would expect you would 382 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,559 expect the Clippers in that scenario to have the quote 383 00:20:57,599 --> 00:21:01,480 unquote rest advantage the time, the time, the Jet Lank advantage. 384 00:21:01,799 --> 00:21:03,599 Speaker 3: You think the Clippers would have the advantage of that 385 00:21:03,599 --> 00:21:05,720 game last night, but really they were on the same spot. 386 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,759 Speaker 1: It's an old team issue. I guess. 387 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:11,759 Speaker 3: That too. 388 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,839 Speaker 1: It's a New Orleans thing. It's something weird when we 389 00:21:14,839 --> 00:21:17,319 played the I don't know what it is. Also, shout 390 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,480 out Carlo, my nephew recognized some when we're at the 391 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,160 Cavs game and he talked to him. That was very nice. 392 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,279 Thank you for doing that, Carlo. All Right, we are 393 00:21:24,319 --> 00:21:26,680 about to talk the map. Everyone's getting two for one 394 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,440 this episode. You're getting two game previews and one coming up. 395 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:31,839 If you're listening to us on the audio, is gonna 396 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,720 be some quick ads if you're watching us at YouTube 397 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,319 dot column at Clippers podcast, no ads that we put in. 398 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,799 Uh so we're gonna do some ads and then MAVs 399 00:21:40,839 --> 00:21:42,839 talk in three to one. 400 00:21:44,519 --> 00:21:47,079 Speaker 2: All right, welcome back into Cliffs and did we talked 401 00:21:47,079 --> 00:21:50,599 to Clippers wonky win over the Pelicans. Now we're looking 402 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,920 ahead to the back to back against the Mavericks both times, 403 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,559 in case you were unaware, Clippers will be taking on 404 00:21:56,559 --> 00:21:59,480 the MAVs at home home. Back to back is at 405 00:21:59,559 --> 00:22:02,559 least nice. Hopefully they're rested up from East Coast time 406 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,319 at that point. Not sure how many days it takes 407 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,039 at that age, but uh, you know, it's it's difficult. 408 00:22:09,039 --> 00:22:10,200 It's a difficult world. 409 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:11,039 Speaker 1: Uh. 410 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 2: As far as the first game is back to back, 411 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:19,000 no Ben Simmons, Kawhi is expected to play. It looks 412 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,559 like he's gonna play unless anything changes in the next however, any. 413 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: Whatever injury report from out. 414 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,279 Speaker 2: But yeah, what what are you guys looking for in 415 00:22:29,319 --> 00:22:32,319 this one? Adam, I'll I'll kick it over to you. 416 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:33,359 Just got to go to and out here. 417 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:38,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, but as I mentioned on the last show, I 418 00:22:38,039 --> 00:22:40,960 don't feel ass strongly that they're going to and oh 419 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,640 against Dallas with the way they've been playing with Anthony Davis. 420 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:49,200 But is the logic here, play Kawhi with Anthony Davis 421 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,240 plays that game like is Anthony Davis playing Tomorrow night? 422 00:22:52,279 --> 00:22:55,000 And that's why they're playing Kawhi instead? Of playing him 423 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:59,039 on Saturday, which Law kind of throughout there that idea, 424 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:00,359 which I kind of agreed with. 425 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 2: I mean, why, like my question is why wouldn't you know, 426 00:23:04,319 --> 00:23:08,480 you know, it's it's beneficial obviously to both teams, beneficial 427 00:23:08,519 --> 00:23:10,160 for the league. Even that. 428 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 3: Is that nationally televise game because at the beginning of 429 00:23:15,039 --> 00:23:18,160 the season they thought they were getting in Dallas. 430 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 1: Right, This also an extra day off because Kawhi Will 431 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,720 takes Saturday off and then that's either four days of 432 00:23:28,839 --> 00:23:31,880 rest before the Spurs or five ahead of the Houston 433 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:39,799 game on Wednesday. Right, it's a back to back. 434 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's Tuesday Wednesday, those four days for Houston. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry, 435 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,079 either way, he was getting some rest. 436 00:23:50,559 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: I don't think this one's Yeah. 437 00:23:55,599 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 3: Maybe it's just kaw I feels good. 438 00:23:57,759 --> 00:23:58,519 Speaker 1: But you can't do. 439 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:00,519 Speaker 2: It. 440 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: Might be that like just like let me play like 441 00:24:03,519 --> 00:24:05,920 I'm feeling it. Right, Like we've talked how this team 442 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,680 maybe with too much rest. It's not ideal. 443 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 3: He's been game. 444 00:24:09,799 --> 00:24:16,319 Speaker 1: Tomorrow, Yeah, is not on ESPN. It's just so regular. 445 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,839 Speaker 3: Maybe they're trying to match firepower because Anthony Davis is 446 00:24:19,839 --> 00:24:21,880 playing that game, so we're having Kauai for that one. 447 00:24:23,079 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel a lot I'm crazy. I feel a 448 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,799 lot better about the Clippers' chances if Anthony Davis is 449 00:24:27,799 --> 00:24:30,799 playing to have Kawhi playing, because we definitely if we 450 00:24:30,799 --> 00:24:33,160 don't go to and oh, we definitely got to split 451 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:38,119 this because if they don't, shit gets real bleak pretty quick. 452 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,079 Speaker 3: I still feel decently that they're going to it. 453 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:43,039 Speaker 1: Oh, just. 454 00:24:44,519 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 3: They have something to play for now as well mentioned 455 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,000 they're trying to show something to sell season tickets for 456 00:24:51,079 --> 00:24:53,119 next year and give the fan base something to look 457 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,480 forward to. Hey, we're going to be in the play 458 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,839 in and our future is right. We have a thirty 459 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:03,880 two year old all through injury from center. 460 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:05,599 Speaker 1: He's really good. 461 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 3: It was really good when healthy ad could cook. But yeah, 462 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,279 Dallas is no longer just circling the drain. Some of 463 00:25:14,319 --> 00:25:18,720 this is Phoenix's fault. If they weren't so bad, Dallas 464 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,720 wouldn't feel like they're still going to be in the 465 00:25:20,759 --> 00:25:24,480 play In this year. But now it's close to a lock. 466 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,319 Speaker 2: I was, yeah, I was gonna say that. I would 467 00:25:26,319 --> 00:25:27,680 say they're pretty much a lock. 468 00:25:27,599 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: For the plan. Yeah, I think that's fair. They've been 469 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,720 good over their last four games, as Adam has been 470 00:25:34,759 --> 00:25:39,079 talking about. I was looking at their stats. They're shooting 471 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,119 well from three, They're grabbing the same amount of boards 472 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,279 as the Clippers. They're not good in offensive rebnding percentage though, 473 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,519 which is nice, I hope, I know, but we need that. 474 00:25:49,559 --> 00:25:51,240 We don't need to battle a team that's good on 475 00:25:51,279 --> 00:25:56,319 the offensive glass. AD's averaging twenty nine and three and 476 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,599 a half and two blocks, PJ. Washington and Clayers shooting 477 00:25:59,599 --> 00:26:05,920 it well like, it's not going to be easy tomorrow 478 00:26:06,079 --> 00:26:11,000 and Saturday, especially which this I'm assuming this defense is 479 00:26:11,039 --> 00:26:13,119 better than the Pels because the Pels is quite literally 480 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:17,799 the worst. What is the starting lineups offense gonna look like? 481 00:26:18,079 --> 00:26:25,079 With Derek Lively playing free safety off of Kristo So 482 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,680 he just, however's playing free safety off of Kristown I 483 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,200 should say. 484 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 3: Is he going to play in both games too? Because 485 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,559 he just came back I think it played fifteen minutes 486 00:26:35,599 --> 00:26:42,319 last night the day before. Lively he might not play 487 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,400 the back to back both games. 488 00:26:44,759 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good call. 489 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,279 Speaker 1: I wonder if we're gonna pick, if you're gonna pick 490 00:26:49,279 --> 00:26:50,960 which one of these games to go to go to 491 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,079 the one on Friday, That's what it sounds like. 492 00:26:55,599 --> 00:26:57,599 Speaker 3: Cooking for them. 493 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 5: Naji Marshall, who nickname that I learned today is the Knife, 494 00:27:04,799 --> 00:27:08,359 very old school mobstery nickname and a style of nickname 495 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:09,359 we need to bring back. 496 00:27:11,519 --> 00:27:12,039 Speaker 3: Well he has. 497 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. It's gonna be good basketball, but I 498 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,400 don't know will What do you think in the Clippers? 499 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,039 Gotta do to to what? 500 00:27:30,079 --> 00:27:37,519 Speaker 3: Just win? Baby, gotta win. It's not over complicated, just win. 501 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: Staring at a clipboard, just scratching your head writing when. 502 00:27:45,039 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 2: I'm about win on the whiteboard. Underlined it. 503 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: Twice, guys, I underlined it freaking twice just halftime. I 504 00:27:55,279 --> 00:27:57,200 want to see the Clippers be better about the little 505 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,559 things because they were not. They were not locked in 506 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,799 for like maybe half of that game against the Palace 507 00:28:05,039 --> 00:28:09,240 right like they were doing. There was some bone headed turnovers. 508 00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 6: I would say, yeah, I didn't like the level of effort, 509 00:28:16,599 --> 00:28:18,799 but it could have just been they were tired because 510 00:28:18,839 --> 00:28:19,599 they all said so. 511 00:28:19,839 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 3: Afterwards. They gave up seventy plus points in the paint 512 00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:28,079 to the Pelicans, which wasn't cool. Uh, that's something they've 513 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,519 been good at all season long. They need to be 514 00:28:30,559 --> 00:28:34,599 good at that against Dallas. Hold them down, hold them 515 00:28:34,599 --> 00:28:36,279 to forty five or below. 516 00:28:39,839 --> 00:28:41,839 Speaker 1: They're just beat him in points in the paint because 517 00:28:41,839 --> 00:28:44,119 they're they're big, right. I think Adam you mentioned that 518 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,759 last time. They have their three biggest guys back. It's 519 00:28:46,759 --> 00:28:49,119 not like we played a giant Pells team yesterday that 520 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,319 was bullying us in the paint. We were just like, 521 00:28:52,039 --> 00:28:53,160 it was just kind of sloppy. 522 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, they weren't. They looked a little bit unfocused at times. 523 00:29:01,359 --> 00:29:03,200 Maybe they were looking ahead. I don't know how you 524 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,200 can look past the Pelicans, though, if you're the Clippers, 525 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:07,880 that's crazy. 526 00:29:08,319 --> 00:29:12,079 Speaker 1: I don't think they were looking ahead. Will what are 527 00:29:12,119 --> 00:29:14,880 you hoping for from Norm? You were? You were the 528 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,559 one who was like, I think Norm's gonna get it 529 00:29:16,559 --> 00:29:19,680 going against the Pels. We all agreed because it's the Pels. 530 00:29:19,799 --> 00:29:22,519 But maybe it happens against a better team. 531 00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 2: I mean, that would be great having him able to affectives, 532 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:30,960 have him able to effectively space the floor, we give 533 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,319 give some more space to operate, and especially I mean 534 00:29:35,359 --> 00:29:37,440 I'm assuming he will end up playing the back to. 535 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:42,279 Speaker 1: Back, right, I think everybody, yeah, every yeah, everybody not 536 00:29:42,559 --> 00:29:43,799 that's not Kawhi or Ben. 537 00:29:44,079 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 2: I would assume it's good to go. So he's got 538 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,359 kind of two shots here, both at home to sort 539 00:29:50,359 --> 00:29:55,039 of ease back into it, And it'd be ideal if 540 00:29:55,039 --> 00:29:56,440 he could have it in both games. But you know, 541 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,240 if he has a colder game Game one, but can 542 00:29:59,279 --> 00:30:01,640 really you know, can put up thirty plus in that 543 00:30:01,759 --> 00:30:04,799 second game, that'd be smooth, smoother sailing. 544 00:30:05,319 --> 00:30:09,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, because being being okay tomorrow isn't obviously as big 545 00:30:09,559 --> 00:30:13,200 of a drop because everyone's health everyone's playing, but. 546 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 2: At the same time, like because there's like less pressure 547 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,240 in that situation, you know, maybe that's how you get 548 00:30:17,279 --> 00:30:18,920 the rhythm back, that's how you know, you kind of 549 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,680 get into it. 550 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,839 Speaker 1: It's a good call. Yeah, man, just one good Norm 551 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,319 game would be great over this, just for some kind 552 00:30:27,319 --> 00:30:31,160 of god to grab some momentum for it. That feels like. 553 00:30:31,119 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 3: There's a real adjustment going with Norm right now and 554 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,599 just finding his place consistently in the offense when they're healthy. 555 00:30:38,839 --> 00:30:43,920 I don't know. Norm is somebody that's so efficient when 556 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:50,119 he's at his best, Getting fifteen shots is plenty that 557 00:30:50,119 --> 00:30:53,440 that could get him to twenty one voice, so he 558 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,400 doesn't need a ton of shots, But maybe some of 559 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,160 it just touches rhythm timing in the offense just being 560 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,200 a part of it a little bit more consistently throughout 561 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:08,599 each quarter. I don't know, because you know, Kawhi and 562 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,799 this is a good thing. Has been taking over a 563 00:31:10,839 --> 00:31:14,279 lot and looks amazing, So it's easy to get lost 564 00:31:14,279 --> 00:31:16,160 in the shuffle, even if you're somebody who was their 565 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,200 leading scorer throughout the majority of the season. 566 00:31:19,119 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: That's a good call. I haven't looked at his foul 567 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,160 numbers either. If he's getting to the line at is good, 568 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:26,880 I don't know if goods are you know what I mean, 569 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,359 Like if that's yeah, like that's affecting him a little 570 00:31:30,359 --> 00:31:33,480 bit too rhythm wise, because it's it's not a not 571 00:31:33,559 --> 00:31:35,559 a small part of his game. It's something he's very 572 00:31:35,599 --> 00:31:38,920 good at obviously, is getting to the line. So that'll 573 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,519 be something to watch for. I think more so in 574 00:31:40,559 --> 00:31:42,720 that second game, just when the Clippers are shorthanded, like 575 00:31:42,839 --> 00:31:45,599 Ken Norm bail Us, I'm sure we'll need to get 576 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,440 bailed out of some possessions with no Kawhi and Chris 577 00:31:49,519 --> 00:31:51,599 Dunn and that, like, cause I was like, in the 578 00:31:51,599 --> 00:31:55,839 starting lineup for the second game with Kawhi out, is 579 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,920 Derek Jones Junior in there and done? Because then the 580 00:32:00,039 --> 00:32:01,160 bench gets really weird. 581 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:09,559 Speaker 3: That's what they did against Cleveland. Hm. That's a good question, 582 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,160 and it might be different because it's Dallas. But I 583 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,039 could see that because first of all, we thought a 584 00:32:16,119 --> 00:32:18,119 mere coffee was going to start that game against Cleveland 585 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:24,200 because they said it a couple of days earlier. I 586 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,200 could see him going right back to it. 587 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: I guess it makes the bench so weird because then 588 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:35,000 it's Ben Simmons and Bogden off the bench. Yeah, and 589 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,519 new Banks if we really, if we need to, we 590 00:32:37,599 --> 00:32:40,039 talk about the fresh maker. If we really need the 591 00:32:40,119 --> 00:32:47,799 break in case of emergency, we got you Banks. Yeah, 592 00:32:47,839 --> 00:32:52,079 it's gonna be weird, uh, I Yeah, I thought Ben 593 00:32:52,119 --> 00:32:54,640 Simmons was a little loose with the ball yesterday. He 594 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,039 had one turnover where it just I think he just 595 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,640 looked directly at the Pelicans guy and just passed it 596 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,079 directly to him, like the Pelicans did the exact same 597 00:33:02,119 --> 00:33:05,720 thing on the next possession. But we don't need Ben 598 00:33:05,799 --> 00:33:12,559 Simmons to be sloppy when handling the ball. Yeah, recently, Yeah, 599 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:17,920 it's that the Kney thing that we know absolutely nothing about. 600 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,160 He's just dealing with more pain. 601 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,799 Speaker 3: It seems there was some swelling. 602 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,839 Speaker 2: I hate swelling, Adam, have you told him yet that 603 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,799 he just has to be better than Mason Plumbley. Maybe 604 00:33:27,799 --> 00:33:29,359 you could just tell him that in personal takes them 605 00:33:29,359 --> 00:33:34,119 the pressure off. Hey, Simo, youah one job here, man, 606 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,359 you know one job. Just be better than Mason Plummy. 607 00:33:37,359 --> 00:33:40,119 Don't gotta do anything fancy. Just just be better than Mason. 608 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,559 Speaker 3: Those shirts would sell. 609 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: Be better than Mason Plumbley. I think all fan bases 610 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,839 would buy that shirt. Oh, also shout out the Clippers 611 00:33:49,839 --> 00:33:54,160 for the Aviza zu BOTSR shirts dp O y thing, 612 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,000 I poo poo a lot of what the Clippers marketing 613 00:33:57,039 --> 00:33:59,319 team does. That was phenomenal. That was one of the 614 00:33:59,319 --> 00:34:03,440 coolest things and I think might buy the shirt. It's 615 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,039 pretty sweet. Adam. Do you want to say anything particular 616 00:34:07,039 --> 00:34:08,480 about the Clippers marketing department. 617 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,679 Speaker 3: I thought they did a great job with that. I 618 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,119 love the energy from this group right now, even when 619 00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:22,400 they're arguing, it feels like they're on the same page 620 00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:26,079 with Why and James Harden out there yesterday talking through 621 00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:29,519 some defensive coverage stuff and then law ask Why about 622 00:34:29,519 --> 00:34:31,800 that post game. I thought that was really cool answer. 623 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:36,440 He's like, yeah, we're trying to win, and I don't 624 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,639 know that your brother has your back. And it seems 625 00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:43,519 like this group was really really solidifying in a really 626 00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:47,320 cool chemistry as we just got six games left. Like 627 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,559 that stuff matters. It does because to tough times are coming. 628 00:34:51,599 --> 00:34:53,519 There's gonna be some real adversity real soon. 629 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,599 Speaker 1: Yes, and James Harden posted the photo of them all 630 00:34:57,599 --> 00:34:59,800 out with a drum line quote. So I don't think 631 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,760 the vibes have ever been better than posting that. All right, 632 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:08,679 anything else about this double MAVs back to back that 633 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,880 we have before we make our player of the back 634 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,320 to back picks, which is some of the harder picks 635 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,039 we'll make, not as hard as the three and four 636 00:35:17,079 --> 00:35:20,360 one that we did. Will any final thoughts about this 637 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:27,440 pesky Mavericks team dubll doves. I put win times too 638 00:35:27,519 --> 00:35:31,400 on the whiteboard. Guys, they said I was crazy. Now 639 00:35:31,519 --> 00:35:37,440 look at us, all right, Adam, your player of the 640 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,880 back to back pick. It has to be someone who 641 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,880 you think is going to positively affect both games, and 642 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,039 it cannot be well, quite literally, it can't be Kawhi. 643 00:35:46,599 --> 00:35:49,760 It can't be Norm Harden or Zobots or Bogey. 644 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 3: No. 645 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: You can pick. 646 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,039 Speaker 3: Since nobody picked him. I'll go Bogie for this two. 647 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: He's been a that's a good pick. 648 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 3: He's been Bogey. This is what he does. 649 00:36:04,519 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: But I'm still Bogey, still Bogey baby. But he's like 650 00:36:10,079 --> 00:36:12,760 he this is the perfect guy to be good over 651 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,719 a back to back to get to too and zero 652 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,159 against his team, like an efficient sixteen or whatever, which 653 00:36:18,159 --> 00:36:20,400 I think is what he had last night. Probably be 654 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:21,599 more need for the second game. 655 00:36:21,639 --> 00:36:24,320 Speaker 3: But it's all about impact with my guy, Bogey, like 656 00:36:24,519 --> 00:36:27,800 hero sixteen to five, but he's controlling some of the offense. 657 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,079 I'm good, I'm good. 658 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,760 Speaker 1: I would like him to score more than five points. 659 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,800 Speaker 3: Hey, look he hit a huge three against Orlando and 660 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,639 made a great defensive play and helped him win the game. 661 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,480 You have a great game shooting wise, but you can 662 00:36:41,519 --> 00:36:43,119 still you can still help. 663 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:48,119 Speaker 1: That's just Bogey still helping. Uh will, who is your 664 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:49,320 player of the back to back? 665 00:36:50,679 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go djj okay. Yeah, I'm assuming he's gonna 666 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,119 be back in the starting lineup at in that second game, 667 00:37:01,159 --> 00:37:04,400 and we're gonnat we're gonna need him. 668 00:37:04,519 --> 00:37:06,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the guy who's let me down, I think 669 00:37:06,599 --> 00:37:08,280 when I picked him, So I hope he plays better. 670 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:12,119 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I've been burning on this one multiple multiple times, 671 00:37:12,199 --> 00:37:14,519 but uh, you know, you gotta get the shots up. 672 00:37:15,199 --> 00:37:17,320 Speaker 1: You gotta get hey, you know what you know when 673 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:18,440 a shot doesn't go in. 674 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,639 Speaker 2: You don't know when you're not shooting, When. 675 00:37:21,519 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 1: You're not shooting. I'm gonna go uh batoo because there's 676 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,639 gonna be some wonky center lineups. He's gonna try his 677 00:37:29,679 --> 00:37:33,400 best to not have to play Drew Eubanks tomorrow and 678 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,400 then we don't know what's gonna happen on Saturday's game. 679 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,760 So I'm going Nick Patu more of that same as 680 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,079 Will said, and I don't mean this disrespectfully, more of 681 00:37:42,119 --> 00:37:45,000 the same of what he does, which is very good defense, 682 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,960 move the ball, hit threes when the opportunity presents itself, 683 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,079 like it's raised the floor of all. 684 00:37:52,039 --> 00:37:54,159 Speaker 2: Lineups that he's saying, basically. 685 00:37:54,199 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 1: The simple task of raising the floor of every lineup 686 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,599 that he plays with really good at. Thankfully he actually 687 00:37:59,599 --> 00:38:04,000 does do that. That's my pick. And I think we're 688 00:38:04,039 --> 00:38:05,880 going to and I on this back to back. 689 00:38:07,159 --> 00:38:10,760 Speaker 3: I think so too. For some reason, I'm more confident 690 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,840 after last nice game. Interesting? 691 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: Why interesting? 692 00:38:17,119 --> 00:38:17,280 Speaker 3: Well? 693 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,360 Speaker 1: And I also I would I feel better too, because 694 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,960 like the Spurs game on Tuesday, I'm not worried about that. 695 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,599 So the path to three and one over these two 696 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,199 final back to backs is very much there. 697 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 2: Is the real battle for La the Pelicans versus the Clippers. 698 00:38:36,039 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 1: Yes, for Clippers fans. Damn, that's a good one, all right. 699 00:38:43,199 --> 00:38:45,760 I think that about wraps everything up. We're gonna be 700 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,639 back with a full pod on Monday, probably some postgame 701 00:38:48,679 --> 00:38:51,639 lives after one of the MAVs games. Who knows could 702 00:38:51,639 --> 00:38:56,840 be a fun time will Where can people politely suggest 703 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,320 to their significant other that they should listen to this 704 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,440 pod so they can just you know, connect a little more. 705 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,119 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, tell your significant other to check out this 706 00:39:06,159 --> 00:39:09,280 podcast wherever they get their podcasts not already listen to this. 707 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:14,119 If they happen to listen over on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, 708 00:39:14,159 --> 00:39:16,000 they leave a little radilar review helps us out, and 709 00:39:16,039 --> 00:39:18,599 we've comments over on Spotify. But the best way to 710 00:39:18,679 --> 00:39:20,960 tell you signift another to check out this show is 711 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,159 over on YouTube dot com slashat Clippers podcast and even 712 00:39:24,199 --> 00:39:26,280 watch on a TV have a little couple time. You 713 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,320 don't have to watch separately or listen separately. However you 714 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,880 consume this podcast. You know we appreciate you. 715 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,679 Speaker 1: We absolutely do. Maybe you're sitting for another responds better 716 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,400 to you holding a big boombox playing an episode you've 717 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,639 taken from us. If you put it on tape, put 718 00:39:40,679 --> 00:39:43,559 in the boombox. Maybe that's how it goes. Either way, 719 00:39:43,639 --> 00:39:48,400 Please leave those reviews, Adam. One positive thing heading into 720 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,800 this back to back that you're excited about that might 721 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,119 be difficult. 722 00:39:56,039 --> 00:40:00,320 Speaker 3: Positive saying. I don't know Aviza Zoobots has ap bridge 723 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,280 nineteen and twelve his last twenty two games, and I 724 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,880 think the last time he matched up against Anthony Davis 725 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,480 he cooked him and outplayed him completely back way back 726 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:15,119 when ad was a Laker. Yeah, I'm excited for a rematch. 727 00:40:15,159 --> 00:40:18,039 I'm excited for Big Zoo to get a little bit 728 00:40:18,079 --> 00:40:20,920 more credit for the season that he's had by taking 729 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,239 down another one of the best big big men in 730 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:23,639 the league. 731 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,559 Speaker 1: There we go. The Zoobots type is absolutely real and deserved. 732 00:40:28,639 --> 00:40:31,960 All right, We will be back for y'all fairly soonish. 733 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,159 Thank you for hanging out, and as always, let's go close.