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They didn't use boba meta techniques. 29 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,319 They may come back and say, well, your tooth is correct, 30 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,120 you need a crown, you need a root canal. 31 00:01:24,159 --> 00:01:26,799 Speaker 3: Eventually, don't go there. Save your teeth, save your money 32 00:01:26,799 --> 00:01:27,280 in the long run. 33 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,239 Speaker 2: Visit dental pros of Utah in American fork the best 34 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,840 bomba medicare mentally invasive care and it'll save your teeth 35 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:35,200 and your money in the long run. 36 00:01:35,239 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 3: Let's get out to the hotline. Welcome at double D 37 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:38,719 the Deadly. 38 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 2: HERALEDI in Sound the Bugle, Ladies and gentlemen. We got 39 00:01:42,519 --> 00:01:43,959 Darnell Dixon on the line Double D. 40 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,599 Speaker 4: Hey you living well right now, living like it's nineteen 41 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,040 eighty five. We have an outage in the internet in 42 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,439 our area. So it's very quiet and in Dixon household 43 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,840 right now with no good to the outside world. So 44 00:01:57,319 --> 00:01:58,959 I don't know what's going on. Did you Todd join 45 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,599 the Big cann or something while I was out for 46 00:02:01,599 --> 00:02:02,200 the last hour. 47 00:02:02,799 --> 00:02:04,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I will say this much. 48 00:02:04,959 --> 00:02:08,879 Speaker 2: There is some drama brewing in Cougar Country, or rather 49 00:02:09,159 --> 00:02:14,240 in Hollywood. We I just came across this, uh, and 50 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,280 I think we got it confirmed. 51 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:17,039 Speaker 4: Uh. 52 00:02:17,159 --> 00:02:21,159 Speaker 3: Pooka Akua is uh not in the not in the 53 00:02:21,199 --> 00:02:23,639 good line light right now. He is uh. 54 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 2: He has checked himself into rehab after the alleged drunken 55 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:32,080 New Year's Eve bite attack report. So it looks like 56 00:02:32,479 --> 00:02:33,520 he's in rehab. 57 00:02:35,719 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 3: Uh. 58 00:02:36,719 --> 00:02:41,439 Speaker 2: The RAMS Receivers attorney Levi mccatherine confirmed with The California 59 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,800 Post on Wednesday that his client has been at a 60 00:02:44,879 --> 00:02:48,800 luxury treatment center in Malibu. While mccatherine said the move 61 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:53,039 was not a direct response to the lawsuit Nikua's bite accuser, 62 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,919 Madison A. Tiabi, filed against him last month, the lawyer 63 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,800 did say the combination of stories uh running right now 64 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:06,280 on him are certainly a contributing factor. He was there 65 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,400 a substantial period of time before any of these allegations 66 00:03:09,439 --> 00:03:12,280 are broke with Madison, mccatherine said, and he's scheduled to 67 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,000 be there for a while longer. Mcatherine added that Nicoua's 68 00:03:15,039 --> 00:03:18,240 goal with the stage to improve his overall behavior in 69 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,439 every aspect of his life that he can h and 70 00:03:22,719 --> 00:03:24,400 he said he's really proud of him for doing it 71 00:03:24,479 --> 00:03:30,800 and doing it this off season. So, you know, Puoka, 72 00:03:30,879 --> 00:03:33,199 you probably covered him in high school. He's a great 73 00:03:33,319 --> 00:03:35,159 He was a great kid, you know, I mean, obviously 74 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,759 a fun loving kid. He's he's super like just he's 75 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,080 a vibe man. Everyone loves being around Pooka. Everybody loves Pooka. 76 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,479 Anyone that's ever been around Pooka has really nothing ever 77 00:03:46,479 --> 00:03:47,879 negative to say about Pooka. 78 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 3: Nikua. 79 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: It sounds like he's got into the limelight. He's in LA, 80 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,719 he's making money. He surrounded himself with the wrong mentors. 81 00:03:56,759 --> 00:03:59,400 He doesn't have a father figure. His father, Lionel passed 82 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,520 away years ago at a very young age, and he's 83 00:04:02,639 --> 00:04:07,280 maybe relying on the on poor mentorship and he's gotten 84 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,439 maybe a little repression, right. He maybe didn't do very 85 00:04:10,439 --> 00:04:12,960 many bad things growing up and he's just in a 86 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:13,719 bad situation. 87 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 3: Your thoughts, Yeah, it's. 88 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 4: Too bad pooka. Uh is a kind of kid that 89 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,759 lights up the room when he comes in. He is 90 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,439 kind of the life of the room when he is there. 91 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,439 And it's kind of in terms of professionally, it's kind 92 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,199 of poor timing because he is up for signing a 93 00:04:32,199 --> 00:04:35,240 pretty large contract. In fact, what I was reading was 94 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:39,639 perhaps the largest wide receiver contract in the league. But 95 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,279 certainly that's a secondary concern right now. Is we just 96 00:04:43,319 --> 00:04:46,720 hope he gets his life right, gets himself feeling good, 97 00:04:46,879 --> 00:04:49,519 and gets the help that he that he needs. 98 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: Yep, Yes, indeed, we pray that he gets it rights 99 00:04:55,160 --> 00:05:00,879 and Uh makes the changes that he needs to. But yeah, 100 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:02,839 some bad news to start us off, but. 101 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 3: Some good news. 102 00:05:03,959 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 2: Boa women's basketball is in the wbiit What do you 103 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,160 say about that? Darnw I know you keep tabs on 104 00:05:08,199 --> 00:05:10,040 this Lady Koog's team. 105 00:05:11,639 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know. 106 00:05:12,399 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 4: Earlier in the season, and I've told Brandon Gurney this 107 00:05:14,959 --> 00:05:17,959 several times, they were kind of a tough watch. I mean, 108 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,560 they were kind of struggling to hold onto the ball 109 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,399 and some value possessions. Lee Kamard wanted to play up tempo, 110 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,480 and early in the season, I didn't feel like they 111 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,480 really had the skill level to do that, and they 112 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,800 were constantly turning the ball over twenty plus times a game, 113 00:05:34,199 --> 00:05:36,759 and that's difficult to win. They managed to do it, 114 00:05:37,199 --> 00:05:39,399 and then they got into Big twelve and had some issues. 115 00:05:39,439 --> 00:05:42,279 But I feel like they've kind of righted the ship 116 00:05:42,319 --> 00:05:46,519 a little bit, and certainly they've played well. They won 117 00:05:46,879 --> 00:05:51,319 nine of their last ten games heading into this championship 118 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:56,000 game today of the wbit against Columbia. By the way, 119 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,240 who's athletics director is Peter Pilling who was once at 120 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:03,240 BYU And yeah, so so maybe there's a little bit 121 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,560 of a story in that. But I think Lee Camartin's 122 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,600 coaching staff done a great job with this team in 123 00:06:09,959 --> 00:06:14,680 kind of getting things moving, and he showed a lot 124 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,439 of patience with this group because you know, during that 125 00:06:18,439 --> 00:06:20,079 that tough part of the season when they were turning 126 00:06:20,079 --> 00:06:22,519 the ball over a lot. I don't know if I 127 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,240 as a coach, I would have said, yeah, we're sticking 128 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,800 with this high tempo game because they were turning it 129 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:31,480 over so much. And they've managed to figure some things out, 130 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,040 so they're in a it's a good place for them 131 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,639 to be in the postseason, winning some games and their 132 00:06:37,759 --> 00:06:40,360 young team and so they're going to maybe hope, hopefully 133 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,279 get some momentum heading into next season. But I think, 134 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,079 like again, Lee Martin and his coaching staff deserves some 135 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,079 accolades for sticking with this team and getting them to 136 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:49,560 this point. 137 00:06:50,639 --> 00:06:53,199 Speaker 2: Let me ask it is maybe a controversial question here. 138 00:06:54,759 --> 00:06:59,680 Lee's doing great things rookie season as head coach, sir 139 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,839 past seeing Jeff Judkins for the most wins in a 140 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,959 in a uh in that rookie season. 141 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,079 Speaker 3: How did League get passed up on the first go round? 142 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,279 Speaker 2: Was it just due to his inexperience as a head 143 00:07:12,279 --> 00:07:14,519 coach or you know, how how did he get passed up? 144 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,120 Why did he get the job the first go round 145 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:17,920 a few years ago? 146 00:07:18,959 --> 00:07:23,439 Speaker 4: That's a pretty good question. I think that perhaps there 147 00:07:23,519 --> 00:07:26,000 was some not concern, but just the fact that he 148 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:30,040 only been a women's coach for a few years. He'd 149 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:34,160 been in the men's program before, and there is you know, 150 00:07:34,199 --> 00:07:37,639 when you when you talk about hiring for women's basketball, 151 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,759 I think most ads look for a woman to be 152 00:07:41,879 --> 00:07:44,560 the head coach. You know, it's good for them to 153 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,360 have role models, those those athletes that are playing and 154 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,680 and the connection and the being able to understand what's 155 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,839 going on. Sometimes they feel like maybe a woman coach 156 00:07:55,839 --> 00:08:00,759 would handle that better. There were some intriguing things about 157 00:08:00,759 --> 00:08:03,439 the previous coach, Amber Whiting when it came to her 158 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:09,240 connection to the AAU circuit. They took a chance, you know, 159 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,040 on her because she didn't have any college coaching experience, 160 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,319 and I personally would have liked to see her get 161 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,959 one more year to kind of get things going, because 162 00:08:17,959 --> 00:08:20,319 it was tough to jump right in there after that 163 00:08:20,399 --> 00:08:23,199 first year and then go right into Big twelve because 164 00:08:23,439 --> 00:08:26,079 it's a pretty tough league. So maybe that was it. 165 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,959 But I do know that Lee Kamard has a great 166 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:33,080 ability to have rapport with the athletes. And I probably 167 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,039 told this story before, but when he was a men's assistant, 168 00:08:36,399 --> 00:08:39,559 I traveled to Los Angeles for a game b what 169 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,720 you played against USC. It was just a one off, 170 00:08:41,759 --> 00:08:45,279 one of those you know, preseason games, and they normally 171 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:49,679 didn't travel, you know, just on a regular airline, but 172 00:08:49,919 --> 00:08:52,440 because that had been paid for by the group that 173 00:08:52,519 --> 00:08:54,639 ran this tournament, they were coming home in the same 174 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:56,759 flight I was coming home on. So we're all sitting 175 00:08:56,759 --> 00:08:59,159 in there waiting for the flight to get boarded. But 176 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,919 I noticed that a lot of players, like almost all 177 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,399 of them, at one point or another wandered over to 178 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,200 Lee Kamard and had a conversation with him, and I 179 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,840 was impressed with his ability to have that rapport and 180 00:09:10,919 --> 00:09:13,679 the fact that the players really wanted to talk to him, 181 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,519 get his feelings on stuff, get his opinion, and confide 182 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,799 in him. So I thought that he would make a 183 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,200 good head coach at some point. And right now he's 184 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,759 doing a great job with the women's program. 185 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 3: Doing fantastic. Hopefully they get the dub. 186 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:33,879 Speaker 2: Hopefully they get the victory there in Wichita, Kansas. It 187 00:09:33,919 --> 00:09:37,759 looks like they're not favored per ESPN analytics. But if 188 00:09:37,799 --> 00:09:40,480 I know Lee, he's going to get that dog. He's 189 00:09:40,519 --> 00:09:42,519 going to bring out that dog in his squad and 190 00:09:42,519 --> 00:09:44,360 they're going to come out with a victory. 191 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 3: Dardell, what have you been working out over there at 192 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:46,960 the Daily Hero? 193 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 2: What have you been writing about? Where have you been 194 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,840 casting your gays within Cougar Sports? 195 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,519 Speaker 4: Well, we just finished running our all valley teams or 196 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:59,159 we pick you know for the high school sports with basketball, 197 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,159 and we have Brian Priest, the wrestling Guru of Utah. 198 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,279 It helps it with with wrestling and It's always fun 199 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:09,960 to connect with, you know, the coaches and players. I'm 200 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,720 also working on a story right now on and this 201 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:17,559 this concerns kind of BYU ties at least. So Psy 202 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:24,480 Chrisman is a six foot five pound slugger baseball player, 203 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,759 and he played at Maple Mountain for the last couple 204 00:10:26,799 --> 00:10:29,639 of years and set the state record and home runs 205 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,480 last season. And as I was preparing for this this 206 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:36,679 season this spring season for high school sports, I noticed 207 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,279 that he wasn't on the Maple Mountain roster. So I 208 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,639 started looking around some research and apparently he has decided 209 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,919 to play at IMG Academy in Florida to kind of 210 00:10:45,919 --> 00:10:49,200 step up this game and have some opportunities to play 211 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,679 against some good pitching and increase his ability, uh to 212 00:10:53,159 --> 00:10:54,639 you know, go on on the next level. So I 213 00:10:54,639 --> 00:10:58,120 spoke to his dad, Jed Christman, who was a former 214 00:10:58,159 --> 00:11:01,919 pro bo baseball player, and Jake's brother who played at BYU. 215 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,159 And so I'm working on that story now, trying to 216 00:11:04,159 --> 00:11:06,360 get a touch with say and find out what it's 217 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:10,559 like to go from playing high school baseball in Utah 218 00:11:10,639 --> 00:11:15,120 and heading out to Florida to play high level IMG 219 00:11:15,279 --> 00:11:18,960 Academy And as I said, try to help his chances 220 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:20,639 of maybe playing at the next level. 221 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,919 Speaker 2: Darnell Dixon the Daily Herali and talking to Cougar Sports 222 00:11:25,919 --> 00:11:28,759 here on your Utah ESPN Radio network. 223 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,399 Speaker 3: There was some recruiting news that dropped. 224 00:11:31,799 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 2: I know you covered the prep sports realm pretty tightly, 225 00:11:34,759 --> 00:11:39,559 pretty closely. Titan de Young at a mountain Ridge linebacker 226 00:11:39,639 --> 00:11:43,320 tight end. We got the interview yesterday. Really impressive young man. 227 00:11:43,799 --> 00:11:45,919 What do you know about this kid? And he's the 228 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,360 first commit of the twenty twenty seven class. He's already 229 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:52,159 recruiting the rest of the twenty twenty seven class. He 230 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,919 mentioned he's recruiting Body Sparrow, the four star out of Davis. 231 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,000 He's recruiting I believe the kid out of Salem, Peyton 232 00:12:00,039 --> 00:12:04,519 Higginson is well. Try to get him sound sealed, delivered, 233 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,200 committed to the Koogs. What do you know about Titan 234 00:12:07,279 --> 00:12:09,679 and these guys that he's trying to recruit now to b. 235 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 4: YU becoming more and more in the last couple of years, 236 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,000 familiar with the teams in Region two, which mountain Ridge 237 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,320 is in there because west Lake who used to be 238 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:23,120 in the region with American Fork and Skyridge and those 239 00:12:23,159 --> 00:12:25,559 teams has moved into that region and there are some 240 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,039 really good football being played. And you know, as we 241 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,159 look at how BYU handled its recruiting and that transfer 242 00:12:32,279 --> 00:12:36,440 portal era, you still got to hit your local recruits 243 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,320 really well. You got to recruit Utah and get the 244 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,799 best players out of them. Titan seems to be one 245 00:12:40,879 --> 00:12:42,600 of those guys who's going to be an athlete. You 246 00:12:42,639 --> 00:12:45,200 can play in a lot of different positions once you 247 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,360 figure out where you want him to go. So he's 248 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,879 a good pickup for the local recruiting efforts and you 249 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,000 have to continue to mind those and you've got competition 250 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,960 there because Utah wants them and we were state in 251 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,960 Utah State and all these schools have things to offer. 252 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,840 So BYU have to pick their guys wisely, and they 253 00:13:03,879 --> 00:13:06,840 have a process by which they, you know, see a 254 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,799 lot of these kids in camps during the summer, and 255 00:13:10,039 --> 00:13:12,039 then they have the opportunity to go see them play 256 00:13:12,039 --> 00:13:15,320 on Friday nights because that's part of the process. So 257 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,519 he seems like a pretty good pickup. And as you mentioned, 258 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,639 because he's starting to recruit some of these other kids 259 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,080 that are local, there's always a good pipeline there. 260 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:28,399 Speaker 2: As well, love it double d darn Al Dixon talking 261 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:32,120 to some Cougar football and recruiting here on your Utah 262 00:13:32,159 --> 00:13:35,639 USPN radio network. I do like those two guys that 263 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,080 he's recruited right now, Body Sparrow and Peyton Higginson both 264 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:44,039 both really good skill guys with like four star type offers, 265 00:13:44,639 --> 00:13:47,919 and they're getting recruited by just about everybody in the country. 266 00:13:48,279 --> 00:13:51,080 Their hometown kids though, right you hope that you can 267 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,600 retain them here in the state of Utahn BYU now 268 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:58,080 is the premier school for college football play, and so 269 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,480 if anybody's going to get them, it's to be b YU, Right. 270 00:14:02,919 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 4: Well, you have to balance it with with your recruiting 271 00:14:06,759 --> 00:14:11,799 of the transfer portal and retaining the talent that you have, 272 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:18,279 you know from from your previous teams. And there there's 273 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,039 another guy that I like locally that is getting a 274 00:14:21,039 --> 00:14:23,279 lot of talk right now, and I'm not sure where 275 00:14:23,279 --> 00:14:27,759 his highs is college will take him, but Malik Ico 276 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,120 wide receiver out of West Lake, had a fantastic year 277 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,000 last year for the Thunder and he hasn't played a 278 00:14:34,039 --> 00:14:37,120 ton of football, but he ended up with like twelve 279 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,279 or thirteen hundred yards receiving and eighteen touchdowns and then 280 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,960 he just recently led Westlake to the State six A 281 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:47,279 basketball championship. And so he's a really terrific guy, leads 282 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:51,480 very smooth, and so he's another local kid that BYU is. 283 00:14:51,559 --> 00:14:53,879 I'm sure they've got their eye on and seeing where 284 00:14:53,919 --> 00:14:56,279 he heads in. But yeah, BYU has to be the 285 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,320 place that and you want, you know, like I said, 286 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,279 there's competition, but you want to be the place where 287 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,679 those kids look to want to go. And those kids 288 00:15:03,679 --> 00:15:06,639 are important to your program because you expect to be 289 00:15:06,679 --> 00:15:09,080 able to retain those guys a little bit easier because 290 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,000 they're closer to home and because they've grown up knowing 291 00:15:12,039 --> 00:15:15,120 the program in a lot of cases, so you hope 292 00:15:15,159 --> 00:15:16,679 that that's the place where they're looking to go. 293 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 2: And look, look a little competitive enmity here between the 294 00:15:20,879 --> 00:15:25,360 brethren up on the hill is in talking to Titan 295 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,440 to Young, I mean he grew up a Utah fan group, 296 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,600 a Utah fan. I was like, wait to say, okay, 297 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:32,519 It was like, who were your top three? He's like 298 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:38,000 Michigan BYU and who else did he mention? He mentioned 299 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:39,960 somebody else. It wasn't even Utah. Utah wasn't even a 300 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:41,960 top three, top four, top five. It didn't even seem 301 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,279 like I was like, wait a second, how does that happen? 302 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,320 He's like, well, like a lot of uncertainty there. We 303 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:52,039 don't know what the future is. Kilanie's stability resigning this contract, 304 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,519 he's gonna be for another ten years. It's just you 305 00:15:54,559 --> 00:15:58,679 know that the trajectory is it. You know when you 306 00:15:58,759 --> 00:16:06,559 hear that you're taking kids that are grew up Utah 307 00:16:06,679 --> 00:16:09,240 fans and you're getting them to commit to b YU. 308 00:16:09,279 --> 00:16:11,600 What does that say about the rivalry where we're at 309 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,799 right now with the winning streak that B Way Football has. 310 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, and we've talked about this a lot before, but 311 00:16:19,159 --> 00:16:21,519 we know that Utah had a distinct advantage when they 312 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,840 joined the Pac twelve and BYU and an independent and 313 00:16:23,919 --> 00:16:27,440 in recruiting and the amount of resources they could use. 314 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,200 And things have turned around in that area, and b 315 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,120 why you joined the Big twelve. And then now with 316 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,200 you know, Nil and b YU having very deep pockets 317 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,360 with their donors, they've been able to surpass what Utah 318 00:16:40,519 --> 00:16:44,000 has in that area. So so I think that and 319 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,240 you know, kids are smart. They they it's not like 320 00:16:47,279 --> 00:16:49,200 the old days where they grew up and you know 321 00:16:49,279 --> 00:16:53,000 were the BYU uniform necessarily, you know, to go watch games, 322 00:16:53,039 --> 00:16:55,600 and you know they're they're exposed to all kinds of 323 00:16:55,639 --> 00:17:01,600 great programs through the Internet, through television Saturday is watching 324 00:17:02,759 --> 00:17:05,400 ESPN Game Day and all those things, so they know 325 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,680 what's going on, but they also know where their best 326 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,640 opportunities lie. And right now it would appear that at 327 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,559 least you know in a lot of ways that the 328 00:17:14,599 --> 00:17:17,400 local kids are saying, by use a place that has 329 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,240 everything that I want. Plus it's local, it's nearby, and 330 00:17:20,519 --> 00:17:24,079 the family can watch me. I appreciate the way that 331 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:28,319 they set up their program. I'm comfortable among those people. 332 00:17:28,599 --> 00:17:31,000 There are those situations that arise in and by using 333 00:17:31,039 --> 00:17:33,000 a good place right now, with that, we all know 334 00:17:33,079 --> 00:17:35,880 that that's not going to always be the case. There's 335 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,319 going to be downtimes and up times, but certainly I 336 00:17:38,319 --> 00:17:40,039 think now you look at it, and by using a 337 00:17:40,039 --> 00:17:41,920 really good place to recruit those local. 338 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 2: Kids, DA using a great spot moving forward and recruiting 339 00:17:47,559 --> 00:17:52,680 at a high level, a lot of positive momentum in 340 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,240 Cooker Country, no doubt about it. Double d Darnell Dixon 341 00:17:56,279 --> 00:17:58,200 The Daily Herali and best way to support you what 342 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,240 you do how you do it? Appreciate you, but not 343 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,839 for a little cougar beat. Uh here on our Utah 344 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:05,440 Utah ESPN Radio network. 345 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, Herald Extra dot com is where you'll find my 346 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,920 work and you can follow me at Darnell Wrights on 347 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:16,599 X And I hope that that you have a very 348 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,960 great April Fool's Day, Ben, and don't get fool too often. 349 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:23,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, did anyone get you today? Yeah? 350 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,799 Speaker 2: Did the Bonsa, did the agent Debonsa BA Sports Nation 351 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:28,440 News get you? 352 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,799 Speaker 3: We're like, wait a second, where's it? I got to 353 00:18:30,839 --> 00:18:32,599 search for this well. 354 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:36,319 Speaker 4: I planned to really go old school and often if 355 00:18:36,319 --> 00:18:39,279 you remember a movie from Disney many years back called 356 00:18:39,319 --> 00:18:42,720 World's Greatest Athlete. Yeah, you remember that there was a 357 00:18:42,799 --> 00:18:46,960 there was an athlete named Nanu from like Zombia that 358 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,839 that the school recruited. And I was going to make 359 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,799 up this whole story about this guy that Dyu was 360 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,680 recruiting is six five and two sixty and runs a 361 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,759 four two forty barefoot, you know, and that kind of thing. 362 00:18:58,799 --> 00:19:01,079 But I didn't think I be able to convince you. 363 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 3: So no, I mean I probably I would. 364 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,039 Speaker 2: I would have you know, I would have taken a 365 00:19:05,079 --> 00:19:08,519 hook line hook line and sinker Man, I totally would have. Now, 366 00:19:08,559 --> 00:19:10,240 I didn't believe the agent of the bonson news, but 367 00:19:10,279 --> 00:19:14,559 I think the more you know, the more plausible news 368 00:19:14,559 --> 00:19:17,079 would have been a big time football recruit like a 369 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,759 ziggyansa type that's coming to provo right to be the 370 00:19:20,799 --> 00:19:21,599 next Ziggianza. 371 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 4: So that's where I was at. But I don't know 372 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,559 if I could have fooled you been You're pretty you're 373 00:19:25,559 --> 00:19:26,200 pretty smart. 374 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,319 Speaker 2: It depends on the day, Darnell, depends on how much 375 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,319 CTE is presenting itself. 376 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:35,799 Speaker 3: In your brains. 377 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 4: Would agree with that? 378 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 379 00:19:39,079 --> 00:19:40,839 Speaker 4: Definitely definitely, no doubt, no doubt about it. 380 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:42,759 Speaker 2: Hey man, love and appreciate you double d thanks for 381 00:19:42,799 --> 00:19:45,599 hopping on all right, have a great day they go. 382 00:19:45,799 --> 00:19:47,720 That segment was brought to you by Dental pros of 383 00:19:47,799 --> 00:19:50,519 Utah dentalprosof Utah dot com. 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Right when we walked in, she 431 00:22:10,559 --> 00:22:14,720 got a picture with Mickey and Minnie right off the back, 432 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,599 so that was that was a big wind. 433 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 3: That is a big wind to get the pictures out 434 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:22,880 of the way. 435 00:22:23,079 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 2: Now are you the type family that like brings in 436 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,759 food with you and like drinks with you? Well, I 437 00:22:28,759 --> 00:22:30,640 guess you could just fill up your water bottles right 438 00:22:30,759 --> 00:22:33,039 there at the at Disney. But like do you bring 439 00:22:33,039 --> 00:22:34,839 in the food or do you buy the food there? 440 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 5: There's only one food I get here, or I guess too, 441 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:45,160 I do the pretzels, the garlic pretzels and the uros. 442 00:22:45,279 --> 00:22:48,559 So that's all the two things I miss when I 443 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:49,200 leave here. 444 00:22:54,279 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 2: Wait, wait, how many pretzels and churros do you eat 445 00:22:57,519 --> 00:23:00,720 in a day at Disney? Like a typical typical day 446 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,480 at Disney? How many truros and how many pretzes are 447 00:23:03,519 --> 00:23:04,400 you eating. 448 00:23:06,039 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 5: Each day? I'm probably two of the pretzel, the garlic 449 00:23:10,039 --> 00:23:14,000 cheese pretzels, and then about four churros throughout the days. 450 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:21,160 So sometimes a double fifting two turos, and it's just 451 00:23:21,839 --> 00:23:24,640 it's all bad. But it's the reason why I'm about 452 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,839 three hundred pounds right now and looking forward to being 453 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,319 all time center at the Alumni game on Friday. 454 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:37,279 Speaker 2: So, hey man, I'm excited to see in your I think, 455 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,880 are you team Royal or team Navy this year? Because 456 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,559 I feel like you've swapped teams a lot. 457 00:23:43,759 --> 00:23:46,559 Speaker 5: I'm with Bobko, I'm with Bosco this year. 458 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 3: Okay, team Bosco this year? Okay? Well, yeah, be all 459 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:51,119 time center. 460 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:52,759 Speaker 2: You still got to go run a route, right, You 461 00:23:52,759 --> 00:23:56,200 got to run that corner pylon route, you know, just 462 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:57,599 for good old time sake. 463 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:04,519 Speaker 5: Bro run, man, there's no running in this body. 464 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:07,519 Speaker 3: Hey man. 465 00:24:07,559 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 2: Though, like the Alumni day, right, the Alumni game and 466 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,000 all of this, I mean, you're alumnus. You come in, 467 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,599 you like, the fans love it, right, You've got some 468 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,640 great feedback from the fans from as a former player. 469 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,799 You know, how enjoyable has it been for you to 470 00:24:22,839 --> 00:24:25,200 kind of get out there, interact with the fans, come 471 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:26,519 back to the school that you love. 472 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,319 Speaker 5: You know, it's just the energy of the fans bringing 473 00:24:30,319 --> 00:24:34,480 to the stadium. It's getting back in Lovelle Edwards Stadium. 474 00:24:34,599 --> 00:24:40,480 It's being with the former guys like it really. I mean, 475 00:24:41,279 --> 00:24:45,000 the fans just kind of gives you that taste that 476 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,880 you have decades ago when you used to play in 477 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,759 front of all of them. It's it's really special for 478 00:24:51,799 --> 00:24:53,920 the players. That part. 479 00:24:54,039 --> 00:24:55,319 Speaker 3: I really enjoy. 480 00:24:56,799 --> 00:25:00,160 Speaker 5: Also to have my kids come and just get to 481 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,680 feel a little bit of what we got to feel 482 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,680 when we played. And so it's it really is a 483 00:25:06,759 --> 00:25:10,039 special time for the family, and we're all is grateful 484 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,680 for Klannie and bringing us back and even Jack the 485 00:25:14,759 --> 00:25:18,279 Mooney all the work he does to make us former 486 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:22,279 players feel special and and they you know, it's a 487 00:25:22,319 --> 00:25:24,759 whole day event, so it's it's a fun deal for 488 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,319 us former players. 489 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 490 00:25:27,839 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 2: I've had discussions with UH with a lot of different 491 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,599 players about the things that he does a great job 492 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,359 right about taking care of the former players. But you know, 493 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,799 there's been times in the past where it seems like 494 00:25:39,839 --> 00:25:42,079 there was maybe a little bit of a gap the 495 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:46,880 outreach Varsity Club, you know, just benefits and and things 496 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,960 of that nature for like the former b y U 497 00:25:50,279 --> 00:25:54,680 football players. And I think Bronson Kafusi is actually putting 498 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,359 together an alumni group now. 499 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,079 Speaker 3: Has he reached out to you all about that? 500 00:25:59,039 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: Oh? 501 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 5: Absolutely, Brownson is he's been a catalyst with that, done 502 00:26:05,039 --> 00:26:08,480 such a good job of keeping keeping all of us informed. 503 00:26:08,559 --> 00:26:13,279 And yeah, they really do do a great job to 504 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:19,799 keep all the former former players just feeling the love 505 00:26:20,079 --> 00:26:23,200 and so you know, Klanni just does such a great 506 00:26:23,279 --> 00:26:23,720 job with that. 507 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,279 Speaker 2: No, and Klanie's really embodied that. I think that that's 508 00:26:27,319 --> 00:26:31,000 what really changed when Kalani came to to the Helm 509 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,319 as the head coach and I was chatting with some 510 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,119 of those there's always a chatting with a few former players. 511 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,400 There's always a tough transition from being a football player 512 00:26:40,799 --> 00:26:43,440 to getting into real life and real jobs and real 513 00:26:43,519 --> 00:26:47,160 work and all that stuff and making that transition. I 514 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,440 know you went to the NFL, but eventually you had 515 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,759 to go into like the the the corporate space, entrepreneurial space. 516 00:26:52,839 --> 00:26:54,960 You've done a lot of things after your NFL career. 517 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,839 What what can be done to help ease and maybe 518 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:04,279 make that aansition a little bit smoother for the former Cougars. 519 00:27:03,319 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 3: That you know have to make. 520 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 2: You know, our identity sometimes are intertwined with made a 521 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,599 football player. Now we got to go find that new identity, 522 00:27:12,559 --> 00:27:12,799 you know. 523 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:18,039 Speaker 5: I think I think it's it's on both sides. I 524 00:27:18,039 --> 00:27:21,000 think it's one of those things that it needs to 525 00:27:21,039 --> 00:27:25,519 be not only just you know, the school doing their part, 526 00:27:25,599 --> 00:27:30,400 which with Kilane Jack, the Mooney guys like Bronson, they're 527 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,160 doing such a good job from BYU side, but also 528 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,279 for former players to always try to find ways to, 529 00:27:40,839 --> 00:27:44,400 you know, for whatever reason, just just to be able 530 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:50,000 to come through and put yourself out there to support 531 00:27:50,079 --> 00:27:51,720 the program wherever. 532 00:27:51,839 --> 00:27:52,039 Speaker 1: You know. 533 00:27:52,079 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 5: It's like that's saying list where you stand. And I 534 00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:00,480 think if there's anything a former player to do is 535 00:28:00,559 --> 00:28:05,119 just continue to promote BYU football. One of my favorite 536 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,680 things to do is wear my BYU gear here at 537 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:13,319 Disneyland and count how many BYU and people are out here. 538 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,240 And it's always fun when you hear people say go 539 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,039 Kobs when you walk by them, and so that it's 540 00:28:21,079 --> 00:28:23,119 just little things like that, you know what I mean. 541 00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:27,680 Like it goes a long ways in supporting the program, 542 00:28:27,839 --> 00:28:32,720 supporting what we do. And I don't know, I think 543 00:28:32,759 --> 00:28:36,519 there's a lot of different ways to but it's got 544 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,880 to be both sides. You know, school does their thing 545 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:45,680 and former players just finding ways to get involved. And 546 00:28:45,799 --> 00:28:48,359 there is there's plenty of ways to get involved, and 547 00:28:48,839 --> 00:28:52,799 I bet you Kalani is the most accessible head d 548 00:28:53,039 --> 00:28:55,880 one college football coach there is. 549 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,079 Speaker 3: I agree to with that, no doubt about it. 550 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,599 Speaker 2: Reno mahe former b YU great talking some ball, talking 551 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,119 alumni game here on your Utah ESPN Radio network. Kilanie 552 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,119 just signed a ten year extension. Right He's going to 553 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,839 be the He's gonna be truly the Polynesian level. He 554 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,559 promised us that back in twenty sixties, said I just 555 00:29:14,559 --> 00:29:17,440 want to be the Polynesian level. Edwards, do you think 556 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,039 he coaches as long as Leavell did at BYU. He's in, 557 00:29:21,519 --> 00:29:24,640 you know, he's got he's got a decade. He's extended 558 00:29:25,039 --> 00:29:28,640 to another decade. How many years do you think Kloaney 559 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,880 can last? I mean the Polynesian level, he's got to 560 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,839 get up to what twenty eight years. 561 00:29:33,279 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 5: I think he could totally do it. I think he's 562 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:42,400 willing to totally do it. And you know, recently he's 563 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,039 been an example to lose some weight to me, and 564 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,039 you know he can stay healthy. He will. I think 565 00:29:50,079 --> 00:29:54,440 he will be able to. But it's just he he 566 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,240 he's doing it for the right reason. And that's the 567 00:29:57,279 --> 00:30:02,759 best part about k is that he just embodies everything 568 00:30:02,799 --> 00:30:04,400 that lovel stood for. 569 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,279 Speaker 3: They have no doubt about it. I excited for that. 570 00:30:08,319 --> 00:30:09,839 With that, with the future. 571 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,599 Speaker 2: Being so like stable, right, and and we talked about. 572 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:13,119 Speaker 3: The glory days. 573 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 2: Right, you were part of the an awesome you know, 574 00:30:16,359 --> 00:30:18,720 I would say an awesome time in BA football history. 575 00:30:18,759 --> 00:30:20,200 Two thousand and one was one of the best seasons 576 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,279 in BWA football history. 577 00:30:21,359 --> 00:30:21,559 Speaker 3: Right. 578 00:30:22,599 --> 00:30:24,759 Speaker 2: He had the eighties and nineties though those were great. 579 00:30:25,119 --> 00:30:28,400 My era was solid six to nine. We won a 580 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,799 lot of football games. Now we're into the twenty twenty 581 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,599 Kilani era and we've won a lot of double digit 582 00:30:34,559 --> 00:30:37,200 We've had a lot of double digit win seasons, et cetera. 583 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,559 When you compare this era, the twenty twenty season to 584 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,200 present day, and you compared to the other successful eras, like, 585 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:47,240 how does it stack up? 586 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 3: Do you think. 587 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,079 Speaker 5: It's again, I think it's right up there with the 588 00:30:54,119 --> 00:30:58,720 best of them. And I think some of the biggest 589 00:30:58,799 --> 00:31:05,359 tell sign was that transition when coach Wick Winson Michigan 590 00:31:06,039 --> 00:31:11,240 and how many players stayed they ended up jumping ship, 591 00:31:12,079 --> 00:31:17,000 and the fact that all these players that everyone assumed 592 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,720 would jump ship they all ran it back and then 593 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,279 and then to pick up some of the big pieces 594 00:31:24,319 --> 00:31:28,079 we picked up in the portal. I think that's that's 595 00:31:28,119 --> 00:31:32,720 the tell side of where a program is by the 596 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,680 caliber players you're keeping in your program and the caliber 597 00:31:36,799 --> 00:31:40,240 players you're going out and get. And so I'm super 598 00:31:40,279 --> 00:31:42,000 excited for what Clane's doing. 599 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:43,599 Speaker 4: Uh. 600 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 2: The nil transfer portal era, I think is also aiden 601 00:31:48,559 --> 00:31:51,480 supported by U. Right, once upon a time it was improper, 602 00:31:51,519 --> 00:31:55,759 it was illegal to to to pay players and and 603 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,119 I think I think b YU fans and Latter Day 604 00:31:58,119 --> 00:32:01,119 Saints they've always had resources, but they are also law 605 00:32:01,119 --> 00:32:03,839 abiding people. They are letter of the law. They read 606 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,400 their White hand Book on their missions. They got to 607 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,519 abide and so the NCAA rules did not allow them 608 00:32:09,559 --> 00:32:12,799 to do it, while other like SEC Big tenscles they 609 00:32:12,839 --> 00:32:15,000 may have been cheating and circumpending the rules. 610 00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:17,319 Speaker 3: Now we got an equal playing field. 611 00:32:17,359 --> 00:32:23,119 Speaker 2: Does that make BYU, you know and Killanne operating under 612 00:32:23,119 --> 00:32:28,200 those rules? Does that make BYU a premier top twenty five, 613 00:32:28,799 --> 00:32:31,480 top ten type of college football program? 614 00:32:31,519 --> 00:32:33,599 Speaker 3: With all things being considered. 615 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 5: Without a doubt, The nice thing is you can always 616 00:32:37,519 --> 00:32:41,960 measure that, right. I mean, they have those recruiting places 617 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,880 where you rank after the recruiting season, so's you can 618 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,720 totally measure it now. I think there's something fishy going 619 00:32:50,759 --> 00:32:56,240 on in that world. Whenever a kid is deciding between 620 00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,240 BYU and you know, some of these other schools, then 621 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,240 they they end up deciding on b YU, and then 622 00:33:03,279 --> 00:33:08,759 they're somehow their their stars and rankings changed. I'd definitely 623 00:33:08,799 --> 00:33:10,960 like to see what what's up with all of that. 624 00:33:11,039 --> 00:33:12,839 Speaker 3: But out yeah, that I. 625 00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 5: Think by U is doing an amazing job. Coach Anderson, 626 00:33:17,839 --> 00:33:21,880 the recruiting department with Vince Seyua and those guys, they're 627 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:26,839 just you know, they're they're killing it. And you continue 628 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:32,039 to get in those great players. Man. You you're like 629 00:33:33,559 --> 00:33:36,559 when he coached, it's easy to be a coach when 630 00:33:36,599 --> 00:33:40,400 you've got these stund players, right right. 631 00:33:40,759 --> 00:33:43,559 Speaker 2: I mean goodness, Hey, Rena, I'm gonna bring up a 632 00:33:43,599 --> 00:33:46,440 conversation that we had probably a decade ago. We were 633 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,640 at Thanksgiving Point golf course. We were talking about recruiting. We 634 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,440 were talking about like investing in like all these trainers, right, 635 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,119 you know, specializing. You see a lot of you saw 636 00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:59,839 a lot of dads. You've seen a lot of dads 637 00:34:00,039 --> 00:34:03,680 parents over the years invest a ton of money in 638 00:34:03,759 --> 00:34:06,799 their kids so they can get a scholarship. At that time, 639 00:34:06,839 --> 00:34:09,280 it like we were kind of discussing, like is it 640 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,760 worth the bang for your buck? Is the bang worth 641 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:13,199 your buck? 642 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 3: Right? And like at the time, we were kind of. 643 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 2: Conversing and concluded like a lot of these guys aren't 644 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:19,679 getting scholarships. 645 00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 3: They're gonna end up wasting money. 646 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,119 Speaker 2: And even then when you get the scholarship, how much 647 00:34:23,159 --> 00:34:26,280 money are you actually getting back for that scholarship And 648 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,199 it could be a waste of funds now in the 649 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,679 NIL era, I mean the money that's being dolled out. 650 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,599 I mean you invest, if you invest one hundred thousand 651 00:34:36,679 --> 00:34:39,480 dollars into the development of your kid and he becomes 652 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:45,840 a quarterback, he gets that money back year one. 653 00:34:43,599 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, with right, do you remember that combo? Do you 654 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:50,599 remember that combo we had? 655 00:34:51,039 --> 00:34:55,320 Speaker 5: Yes? Absolutely, now, yes, you're right. 656 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:55,599 Speaker 1: Then. 657 00:34:55,679 --> 00:35:02,039 Speaker 5: The issue is it's almost like a law now where 658 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,079 it is so much harder to be one of those 659 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:11,639 NIL kids versus a kid that would have typically got 660 00:35:11,679 --> 00:35:15,840 a walk on or you know, a preferred or even 661 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,960 a fifty three man scholarship because of the portal. 662 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 6: You're not just dealing with Utah kids and getting a 663 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,480 D one scholarship and then getting an NIL deal. You're 664 00:35:28,559 --> 00:35:32,559 dealing with sec kids that are jumping in the portal 665 00:35:33,159 --> 00:35:37,360 with big big ten kids, big twelve, like you're dealing 666 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:42,239 with the whole country and that portal versus Before. 667 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 5: You know, you take the top thirty forty kids in 668 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,719 Utah that are going to go play D one somewhere. 669 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:54,199 That ain't the case no more So. It's a tough 670 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,519 it's a tough challenge. Yeah, there's money there, but there's 671 00:35:57,559 --> 00:36:02,280 also a lot more kids and all across the country 672 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:03,840 that's gone after those pots. 673 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 2: Yes, indeed they are. It makes it, It does make 674 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,880 it a whole lot more competitive. I hope the JUCO 675 00:36:10,079 --> 00:36:14,519 ranks end up expanding, Like I really think there's a 676 00:36:14,639 --> 00:36:20,639 model for the JUCO to really see an emergence of 677 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,760 prosperity because you get like you're schooling paid for, or 678 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,119 you get like some subsidy. Right, you played juco ball 679 00:36:27,199 --> 00:36:29,119 for a year. I played Juco ball for a couple 680 00:36:29,119 --> 00:36:32,079 of years, and I think that that's a really good 681 00:36:32,119 --> 00:36:36,639 option because those those those those jucos that could become 682 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:37,559 really good football. 683 00:36:37,599 --> 00:36:41,639 Speaker 5: Again, absolutely, it's not even just I mean, I don't 684 00:36:41,639 --> 00:36:43,559 know if this still holds up. You can tell me 685 00:36:43,599 --> 00:36:46,920 if it does or not, but it doesn't count anymore. 686 00:36:47,159 --> 00:36:50,280 Speaker 2: Well to be determined on whether it will or not. 687 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,199 I think that's like by state. But you're right, like 688 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,440 it could very well be because it's not NC double 689 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,880 A sanction. It's NJC double A. Right, This is not 690 00:36:59,039 --> 00:37:00,679 NC double A, it's it's JUCO. 691 00:37:02,639 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 5: Yeah. So I mean if you can go play the 692 00:37:10,159 --> 00:37:13,000 some of those semi pro leagues and still come play 693 00:37:13,679 --> 00:37:17,639 college sports, I mean, who knows what you can still 694 00:37:17,679 --> 00:37:19,360 play and continue to come play. 695 00:37:19,559 --> 00:37:23,559 Speaker 2: You can play seven years, bro, you're making a that's 696 00:37:23,559 --> 00:37:24,360 a profession. 697 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:24,599 Speaker 3: Man. 698 00:37:24,639 --> 00:37:27,119 Speaker 2: That's a You get your schooling a little bit paid for, 699 00:37:27,199 --> 00:37:30,199 You get your associates, transfer up to NCAA, and you 700 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,519 get five for five is what they're working on. Now, 701 00:37:32,559 --> 00:37:35,360 you get your red shirt, you get and you get 702 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,320 four more years. That's you can make a lot of 703 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,719 money in five years playing college football. 704 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:40,559 Speaker 3: That's professional. 705 00:37:41,519 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, you might as well. 706 00:37:44,599 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 2: Would you have stayed another year at BYU if you 707 00:37:47,119 --> 00:37:49,000 if you're getting paid what some of these guys are 708 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,599 like punt return wide receiver that you know that you were. 709 00:37:52,639 --> 00:37:55,039 Speaker 3: I mean, you're pulling in at least a mill. You're 710 00:37:55,039 --> 00:37:57,039 pulling in at least a mill if you come back. 711 00:37:58,519 --> 00:38:02,800 Speaker 5: All day long. You're coming back like someone like me 712 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:09,440 that didn't get drafted. I'm yelling and absolutely enjoying that nil. 713 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,599 Speaker 2: No doubt about it. Well, Reno can't wait to watch 714 00:38:13,639 --> 00:38:16,719 it at the alumni game. Enjoy the rest of the mouse. 715 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:22,360 Be safe and uh. Always appreciate our conversations. Always learned something. 716 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,920 You always provide some great perspective. Man, Thanks so much. 717 00:38:29,599 --> 00:38:31,719 All right, there you go. That's Reno mahey, and that 718 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,280 segment was brought to you by Odeon Men'swarodeon menswear dot com. 719 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,320 Speaker 3: Look your best, for your best, get out there and 720 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:37,840 do your best. 721 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,559 Speaker 2: If you've been called to serve a mission, you get 722 00:38:40,559 --> 00:38:42,320 a free gift with your missionary call. 723 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,760 Speaker 3: Hit us up at Odeon Men's Wear. 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It is 745 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:48,360 time to talk about stats. 746 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,559 Speaker 2: I want to talk about the McDonald's All American Bruce 747 00:39:51,599 --> 00:39:54,760 Brandon third, who committed to BYU and is one of 748 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,920 the six h McDonald's All Americans to come through Brigham 749 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,360 Young University. We talked about some of those mc donald's 750 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,400 All Americans yesterday. In the day before well, Bruce played 751 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,960 in the McDonald's All American Game. Played twenty minutes, look good, 752 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,719 seven points, four rebounds, two blocks, one assistant, A partridge 753 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,840 in a pair of tree. The number six prospect in 754 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,840 the class of twenty twenty six six foot seven hundred 755 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,960 and ninety five pounds, small Ford can play some point 756 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,800 guard for you. He's originally from Gilbert, Arizona. Shout out 757 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,840 to Gilbert and the Valley of the Sun. But he 758 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,480 did play at prolific Prep in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. 759 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,199 Speaker 3: Ronald, you were able to catch the game. 760 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,679 Speaker 2: Probably should have had a few more assists if guys 761 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,360 could hit shots. But looked really good and it's twenty 762 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,920 minutes to play. How'd you evaluate Bruce Branch the third. 763 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, give him a solid B for the performance. I 764 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,639 think what he had. Obviously can't control the guys in 765 00:40:43,679 --> 00:40:46,920 Shotsmith if they do. He's got seven points, four boards, 766 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,559 and four assists. Of that points, who is six from 767 00:40:48,599 --> 00:40:50,480 the field? I know he's over four from the three. 768 00:40:50,519 --> 00:40:52,920 He averages about five attenths per game. He can shoot 769 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,920 it between thirty five and thirty eight percent from three. 770 00:40:56,079 --> 00:40:58,760 So look, when you're playing the best athleteses day in 771 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,400 and downy, you all know what each other does, and 772 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,159 it's an all star game that kind of happens. But 773 00:41:03,199 --> 00:41:06,039 now I give I give Bruce a solid BB plus forty. 774 00:41:06,119 --> 00:41:08,440 You saw what she needed to see. He's obviously elite 775 00:41:08,639 --> 00:41:11,039 at getting to the basket. They compared him aj De 776 00:41:11,079 --> 00:41:13,440 Bonds had been of his ability inside the paint, but 777 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,599 obviously said that Aj it is a different level. They 778 00:41:16,639 --> 00:41:18,199 were just comparing of how they both can get to 779 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,320 the basket. Obviously it's gonna be the number one pick. 780 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,480 Bruce will not be the number one pick. But there's 781 00:41:22,519 --> 00:41:24,760 no shot on Bruce. And then his talk about his mom. 782 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,519 You know, I think Bruce is going to be dial 783 00:41:26,679 --> 00:41:28,719 just like Aj. His mom called him a nerd. He 784 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,880 wants to study civil engineering Ben Engineering at BYU, and 785 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:33,840 then he plays chess. 786 00:41:34,119 --> 00:41:34,679 Speaker 3: So there you go. 787 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,360 Speaker 7: So Bruce Branch the third in his off time, that's 788 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:38,000 where he's at. 789 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 3: Love it, Love it. Also, let's talk about stats. 790 00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:45,559 Speaker 2: The the BA women's basketball team is going to be 791 00:41:45,559 --> 00:41:47,840 playing in the wb I T Championship Game. 792 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 3: It starts at five o'clock. 793 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 2: ESPN two is where it's being broadcast, and we got 794 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,719 our starting five, Benali, Cannon, Gibb, Barbara Taylor and Rocal 795 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,840 getting the start for the Lady Koogs of b HYU. 796 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,840 We wish them well as they take on Colombia and 797 00:42:04,079 --> 00:42:08,400 Peter Pilling Uh. Yes, indeed, the former BA you administrator 798 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,400 now the a d at Columbia's. 799 00:42:10,679 --> 00:42:14,079 Speaker 3: Ship time baby Uh let's go get that chip. Baby? 800 00:42:14,199 --> 00:42:16,679 Is it chip or ship? Which one is it? You 801 00:42:16,679 --> 00:42:18,320 know what I mean? It goes back and forth. Does 802 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,360 anybody really know? Is it chip? Get that chip? Or 803 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:25,039 is it get that ship? Huh? 804 00:42:25,079 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 7: I've heard both. That's why I know. 805 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:27,800 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. I heard both, Like which one 806 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:28,320 do you lean? 807 00:42:29,159 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 7: We we onto the ship? Maybe let's get it like 808 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:32,199 you know, I guess. 809 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 3: That's kind of a get onto the chip or the ship. 810 00:42:34,039 --> 00:42:35,679 Speaker 7: But it's all as you know, we're gonna take the 811 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,320 chip home. I think it's the chip. 812 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna put it to a pole. 813 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:41,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna put it to a pole. That's how we 814 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,360 figured these things out to find truth. 815 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,079 Speaker 7: I think what do people say is we're on to 816 00:42:45,159 --> 00:42:47,039 the ship, but we won the chip. I think that's 817 00:42:47,079 --> 00:42:48,679 how they say it. At least that's how I. 818 00:42:48,679 --> 00:42:51,719 Speaker 3: Said chip time or and we won the chip. 819 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's how I said. I said, Hey, we on 820 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,039 to the ship, Mama going to the ship. 821 00:42:55,079 --> 00:42:56,679 Speaker 3: Hey, we bringing a chip home? Baby? 822 00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 7: So I really yeah that Chicago, Yeah both, that's because 823 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:00,960 I got. 824 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 3: To the ship, yep, going We're gonna win the chip? 825 00:43:03,599 --> 00:43:06,159 Speaker 7: Because I really confusing, it is really confusing, but I'm 826 00:43:06,199 --> 00:43:08,920 gonna really confused individual. That's okay. 827 00:43:09,079 --> 00:43:10,800 Speaker 3: So no, no, I'm not saying you're confusing. 828 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,840 Speaker 2: I mean, if that is correct and that is the 829 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,679 proper terminology, I. 830 00:43:14,639 --> 00:43:16,039 Speaker 7: Don't think it is. I think that's just what I 831 00:43:16,079 --> 00:43:18,800 would say, because my philosophy is, Okay, I'm going to 832 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,880 the ship to win the chip on the ball. This 833 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:22,880 that sounds like a gambling reference. Really bad now today 834 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,840 comes out of my mouth. But no, that's I've heard both. 835 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,480 But that's kind of what I said. You know, I 836 00:43:27,639 --> 00:43:29,719 mixed in between because there was no right or wrong way. 837 00:43:29,599 --> 00:43:30,039 Speaker 4: To see it. 838 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 7: I think that's okay. Fifty to fifty, I think I 839 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:33,599 think what the pole will. 840 00:43:33,519 --> 00:43:36,760 Speaker 3: Be, Go get the chip, you're heading to the ship. 841 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,119 Speaker 2: I hate it all right, guys, Uh, let's get some 842 00:43:40,159 --> 00:43:43,159 other breaking news. 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There was 862 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:26,159 rumors that Kansas's head coach Bill Self would not return 863 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,880 for next season. He had to do a little internal 864 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:33,679 reflection in introspection, and you know he's been there for 865 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,039 a long time, right, he'd been there for a minute. 866 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:41,159 Kansas's head coach, Bill Self will return next season, Peron Acos, 867 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,920 Pete Nakos, and Brett mc murphy. 868 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:49,320 Speaker 3: So, look, you can make an argument. 869 00:44:49,039 --> 00:44:54,480 Speaker 2: That Kansas has not met maybe the Kansas stands or 870 00:44:54,599 --> 00:44:57,239 standard over the over the last couple of years, right, 871 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,559 they've invested a lot in their nil They've invested a 872 00:44:59,599 --> 00:45:02,280 lot in the in their personnel, but they haven't been 873 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,199 able to get over the hump, haven't been able to 874 00:45:04,199 --> 00:45:10,360 get go deep in the NCAA tournament. And look, it's 875 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,880 a competitive market place. An il transfer portal ain't no joke. 876 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:19,719 So he's coming back giving it another shot and then 877 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:21,199 maybe then. 878 00:45:21,599 --> 00:45:23,880 Speaker 3: Retires from who what do you make of it? Ronald 879 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:24,639 the three man Weaver? 880 00:45:26,039 --> 00:45:28,599 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think this is uh, this is interesting, right. 881 00:45:28,639 --> 00:45:31,480 I think Bill's self is closer to his way out 882 00:45:31,519 --> 00:45:33,360 the door. He's got one foot out the door than not. 883 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:35,880 I know, he's kill got some left in the tank, 884 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,000 but I think it's coming to an end, you know. 885 00:45:38,039 --> 00:45:40,079 And it's crazy because you think of Bill, you think 886 00:45:40,119 --> 00:45:42,159 of Rick Patino, John color Park. I just don't see 887 00:45:42,199 --> 00:45:44,679 the fire ben that you know, you see with those 888 00:45:44,679 --> 00:45:47,000 other coaches, and they're all older than you know, Bill, 889 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,760 are in the same category, and I think that I 890 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,920 don't know, I'm gonna say over under for Bill self 891 00:45:53,039 --> 00:45:54,840 three and a half years. I think, you know, that's 892 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,119 a good one to take and we'll see what happens. 893 00:45:57,119 --> 00:45:58,960 But Bill Seff I think is on the downside. But 894 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:00,760 he's had a phenomenal career as a head coach. 895 00:46:01,639 --> 00:46:04,679 Speaker 2: He's been there since two thousand and three, two thousand 896 00:46:04,679 --> 00:46:08,239 and four, Bill self. Look, he hasn't had a season 897 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:13,559 where he's dipped under twenty wins. Okay, his worst season, 898 00:46:13,639 --> 00:46:15,599 you could make an argument would be the twenty one 899 00:46:15,639 --> 00:46:19,039 and nine season in twenty twenty, twenty twenty one. It 900 00:46:19,079 --> 00:46:22,519 was an NCAA tournament second round. He did have a 901 00:46:22,559 --> 00:46:26,880 one and done last year. Okay, one and done. They 902 00:46:27,119 --> 00:46:30,280 were out twenty one and thirteen that season and they 903 00:46:31,079 --> 00:46:32,519 you know, you can make an argument for that one 904 00:46:32,559 --> 00:46:35,760 as well. The COVID year it was ousted. It was canceled, right, 905 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,239 but that could have been a really good year for them. 906 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,280 They're twenty eight and three that year, so they kind 907 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,800 of got robbed. He got robbed in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty. 908 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,840 It's unfortunate, unfortunate, just like Bay you did. Let's go 909 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,119 to break. That's a little college basketball, little insider, little 910 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,280 let's talk about stats. Segment brought to you by Orthopox 911 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,760 of Utah, Orthoposivutah dot Com, Blara and Gulo Crewton. The 912 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,119 Cougar's coming up next college football recruiting end was for 913 00:46:58,159 --> 00:47:00,639 two four seven sports. We'll get his thoughts on the 914 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,119 twenty twenty seven commitment of Titan D