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Speaker 1: We went Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Shirtley

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You Can't Be Serious podcast. We are back with part

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two of our comparison of the movie National Lampoon Vacation

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and the movie The Great Outdoors.

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Speaker 2: Hey, do you guess what what? My podcasts and I

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French kiss?

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Speaker 1: So everybody does that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but Daddy says I'm the best at it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, guys, we are here. I've got the waste paper

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basket over my head, I've got some tennis rackets in

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my hands, and Jason is over here. Bear ass, I

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mean bear, bear ass bear, it's a bear bear ass.

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Speaker 2: You're a bop, You're balooney. How do you use a magazine?

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Speaker 1: Do you know what you do when you get in trouble?

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You let go of the rope, Let go of the row.

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Speaker 2: That's right. That ski jumping scene went on for about

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twelve minutes.

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Speaker 1: It was great, It was funny. It was funny. Whoever

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the stuntman was being John Candy for that one there

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deserves all of the money that he got on that deal.

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That was good.

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Speaker 2: I'm dead, I'm dead, I'm alive. I'm alive.

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Speaker 1: Guys, can't wait to talk a little bit more about

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these two movies. We're going to talk today about the music.

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We're going to talk today about the cars. We're gonna

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talk today about maybe some boats, and we are going

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to talk about our final judgment as to which of

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these two movies are the best.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be awesome. I've got some funny scenes I

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want to talk about with you. Yeah, and we're just

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kind of we're just gonna kind of road trip it

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through this episode.

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Speaker 1: Man, Listen, guys, this is going to be a good time.

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You may not know a good time even if it

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fell out of the sky and landed on your face

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and started a wiggle. I'm just telling you right now,

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this is a.

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Speaker 2: Good time, all right, all right? So do you remind

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us when did you see these movies for the first time?

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Speaker 1: Both of these in the theater seven years old, nineteen

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eighty three. I'm watching Beverly DeAngelo take a shower, monumental moment.

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And then yeah, I remember going and watching The Great

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Outdoors in eighty eight and just absolutely loving it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we are going through our summer of nineteen

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eighty eight. Now this doesn't fit perfectly, but nineteen eighty

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three was national Timepoon's Vacation that's turning forty this summer,

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and The Great Outdoors was June seventeenth of nineteen eighty eight.

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It's turning thirty five or just last week turned thirty five. Yeah,

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and so this will be one of our nineteen eighty

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eight summer movies.

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Speaker 1: So both of these movies have some very memorable vehicles

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in them. The memorable vehicle, I mean number one he had.

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I believe it was a Cherokee, a jeep Cherokee wagoneer

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that they were driving, you remember, Hey bear, Yeah, zagnutt

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and then climbs. So that was okay, right right, But

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you got the boat, you got the Suck My Wake boat.

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Suck My Wake. Oh man, I can't tell you how

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many boats that have come by that. I'm like, if

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I had that boat, I'd name it suck my Wake.

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Speaker 2: Hey. You know, dan Aykroyd does something in that scene

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that it didn't appreciate as a kid, but I do

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as a dad. Right. So they're talking about which boat

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they're going to take out there, and John Candy's got

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this perfect vacation for his kids already mapped out, already planned.

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He's got a couple of intruders on his vacation and

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he's like, no, no, no, no, We're getting a pontoon boat.

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We're gonna gonna, you know, just put around the lake

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and have a good time. We're gonna fish and eat

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and relax. Yeah, and Dan across No, no, no, we

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want to you want, you know, suck my wake, you know,

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and ask the kid what do you want? You want

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a rocket or do you want to The kids like, yeah,

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I want to rocket.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: As a dad, now I'm like, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the memorable vehicle from vacation though, yes, is the

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wagon Queen Family Truckster metallic pee, metallic pee, I'm sorry,

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metallic peace.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it was supposed to be Antarctic glue, the super

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sports wagon with the optional relic comeback.

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Speaker 1: You think you hate it, now wait till you drive.

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So I mentioned last episode that I was going to

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give you a little bit of a story there. I

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may have built it up too much. This may this

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may be a letdown, but here you go. Are okay? Ready? Ready?

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So this car was actually a modified version of a

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real car? Was the Ford Ltd Country Squire? Right?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 1: So they hired a guy whose specialty was modifying cars,

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and his name was George Barris. He designed the Munster

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coach and the Dragula from the TV series The Munsters.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: He designed the original nineteen sixty six Batmobile. Get out

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of here, I am not kidding. He designed Kit from

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Night Writer. He designed the convertible version and the super

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pursuit version.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: This guy was known in Hollywood as if you need

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a car modified, this is the guy you go to.

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George Barris, right, yeah, and he's got a whole company

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that does this. Well. You have mentioned to me watching

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about the Doloreans in this new series that's out called

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Expedition Unknown Fantastic Man, and this is the guy in

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that series is trying to find all of the original

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with like eight seven seven original Deloreans that they used

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in the movie Back to the Future one, two, and three.

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And so George Barris, ten years after number three comes out,

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he restores one of those originals, right. And then a

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little while later he makes his own replica DeLorean time

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machine from like a stock DeLorean, right, and he starts

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to use that to promote himself and his company, and

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for like the next seven years has got posters with

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this thing where he's saying I modified cars until Universal

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sends him a cease and desist letter because he's making

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it look like he was the guy that designed the

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original DeLorean time machine. I don't know why. I mean,

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you designed the original Batmobile. Go with that. You don't

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need to have the DeLorean time machine. That's but yeah,

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they they had to say, hey, you get a cut

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that out. But turns out, I mean, this is eleven

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years ago. He had the number one Batmobile. He owned it,

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owned that number one Batmobile. Wow. Sold it in twenty

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twelve for four point six million dollars.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is really cool. That's a great story, man,

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I like it.

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Speaker 1: I like it.

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Speaker 2: So he does all these cool cars, and then he's

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got the one single ugliest car you've ever seen your

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the truckster.

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Speaker 2: You know, Harold Ramis when they brought it to him,

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made it metallic pe with brown paddling and stuff. He thought,

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we may have gone too far.

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Speaker 1: They literally killed the station wagon industry. I mean, the

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station wagon sales plummeted after this movie, really plummeted.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that's hilarious. Yeah, my buddy Chris Alexander

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Patreon member Chris Alexander. I can't tell you how many

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times I've ridden in the back of his blue station wagon.

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We called it the dragon wagon. And it went right

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through his family, like mom had it. Then it went

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to older brother. Then when's younger brother? You know, so

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he had to take dates and stuff out in.

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Speaker 1: The did you put gas in through the hood? I

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can remember having a car, one of the cars we

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plate in the back to be able to get to

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the I think it was a Chevy Caprice. Interesting nineteen

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seventy six Chevy Caprice.

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Speaker 2: Hey, you know that scene with Chevy Chase where he

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grabs the license plate and like flings it over his head.

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He almost drills that lady and she was not expecting

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that that came way closer than he intended it to be. Okay,

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you want to talk music, let's talk music.

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Speaker 1: There's some Both of these movies have some incredible songs

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in the movies, and number one out of the gate,

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we got to talk about the vacation song Holiday rep.

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If this doesn't put you in a happy mood, then

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you're you're a lost cause.

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Speaker 2: Right, This is a perfect song for this movie.

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Speaker 1: It is. And what's great is that Lindsay Buckingham had

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no idea about what the movie was really about other

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than a family going on vacation, right, and he writes

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this song and it fits so perfectly with the events

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of the movie that it was like he telepathically knew

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how things were gonna go.

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Speaker 2: Well, he had seen some Harold Ramis movies, so he knew. Okay,

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it's lighthearted, it's whimsical, it's funny. Yeah, it's fun it's

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a road trip.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Harold Ramis approached him specifically for this. He's like,

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I need you. They had just finished Mirage Fleetwood Mac

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in case, in case you guys aren't familiar, the song

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Holiday Road is by Lindsay Buckingham, who is one of

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the original members of Fleetwood Mac. Fleetwood Mac had just

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finished with Mirage, and Harold Ramis comes up and says, hey,

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couple of songs for this movie, and he does. He

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great song. Another great song.

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Speaker 2: Hey let me back you up, though, go ahead. He

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didn't go to Lindsay Buckingham and say, I want you

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to write two songs for me. He went to Fleetwood

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Mac through Lindsey Buckingham, oh okay, and said, hey, Fleetwood

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this incredible album that had hold Me and Gypsy, I

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mean well known stuff from the eighties, and Lindsay Buckingham's like, well,

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we're not really speaking right now.

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Speaker 1: They were in a bit of a turmoil at that point.

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Speaker 2: Well gosh, I mean they all had relationships within the band.

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I mean yeah, Christy McVie and John McVie and Lindsay

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Buckingham and Stevie Nicks and then Stevie Nicks with Mick

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you know. I mean there's a lot of intermingling. And

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so Lindsay Buckingham's like, how about I do the two

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songs right?

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Speaker 1: Well then, and he nailed it right absolutely. I didn't

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realize this. I was looking at personnel on Holiday Road.

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It is Lindsey Buckingham singing, listening Lindsey Buckingham, guitars, Lindsey

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Buckingham bass, a fairlight drum machine and that's the end.

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Speaker 2: Does he do the dog at the end of it, barking.

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he's like, I don't. I just thought a dog would

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, just he had no idea. He just was like, well,

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it's supposed to be funny. So a dog barking is funny. Yes,

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it's crazy, perfect, it is crazy.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I'll tell you this. That song is one of

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his most well known songs. Yeah, it screams eighties to me, Like,

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I associated it tremendously with this movie. Peaked out at

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number eighty two on the Hot One.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe that that's as high as it guy,

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the subsequent vacation movies, right yeah, And then they used

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Brilliant Dead The Story of Doug Kenney. Oh yeah, that's right.

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catch checkup episode.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, there's one more song I want to talk about.

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USA is the song they play at the end of

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the movie when they're riding roller coasters with Roy Wally

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and it's the culmination of this road trip and absolute fun,

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wacky zaniness. The song fits perfectly there as well. Yeah,

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so two home Runs by Lindsay Buckingham. But the one

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song I want to bring up to you is a

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song called little Boy Sweet by June Pointer.

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Speaker 3: On my.

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Speaker 1: I was like, what the heck happen? Because It's been

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a long long time since I've seen this movie, right, Like,

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since then. Oh really, okay, and I watched this last time.

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I'm like, I thought this was I'm so excited that

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played in this park. Yeah, and it's not.

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Speaker 2: And then I was like, oh, but it was, Okay,

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tell me that story.

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Speaker 1: So I'm so excited by the Pointer sisters. Yes, the scene,

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drinking her pop or whatever it is that she's drinking.

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Speaker 2: And Clark is making dancing moves with the sandwiches with.

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Speaker 1: The bread, yes, making love motions with the peed the

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dog pee.

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Speaker 2: Bread, singing the bread.

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Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah. So originally that was I'm So Excited by

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the Pointer Sisters. What happened, I don't know just when.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, yeah, okay, which is by the Pointer Sisters,

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and then they replace it with this song that you're

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Speaker 2: It's very nearly the same song.

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Speaker 1: It's by June Pointer. He is one of the Pointer sisters. Yes,

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it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: See whenevery time I hear that song, I'm looking for

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a Beautiful Woman in a red Ferrari. Yeah, I love it.

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I think they nailed the music in vacation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So A couple of the other ones that you

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might know is Mister Blue by the Fleetwoods. No relation

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to Fleetwood Mac. Just an odd coincidence there, Okay, and

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then you've got the Ramones singing the Blitzkrieg Bop, which

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Speaker 2: That's the part where Clark and Ellen are singing Jimmy

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Cragclorn and I don't care. Yes, the kids are like

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their headphones on, forget this, I'm out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. So the composer for this movie is a

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guy named Ralph Burns who had done other movies. He

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did the music for Lenny with Dustin Hoffman in it

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and Valerie pH yep, and he did the music for

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All That Jazz, And he did the music for Urban Cowboy,

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which we've had a guy who said this is the

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Speaker 2: Shout out to my high school buddy Jay Reid, who

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hit us back when we were talking about greatest soundtracks

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of all time. He's like, no, no, no, you guys

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have got it all wrong.

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Speaker 1: It's Urban Cowboy THETA and be made for sure, especially

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that time in history. I mean, yeah, knocked it out

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of the park.

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Speaker 2: It is Hall of Fame country artist after Hall of

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Fame country artist plus the Eagles, right.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So switching gears back over to the great outdoors,

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our composer on this one is a guy named Thomas

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Newman who we have talked about before. He was the

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composer on The Lost Boys. Really, yes, brother of Randy Newman.

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What you got a friend of me? Baby, I'm just

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this dude is I mean, he's huge. He did the

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shash Ank Redemption if I can bring it back again,

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another crossover, the shosh Ank Redemption. But he's he's done

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a ton of stuff. He's done less than zero Lost Boys.

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I mean the Man with One Red shoe Hanks right early. Yeah,

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not the best Tom Hanks movie, but I mean, hey.

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Speaker 2: I guess it's definitely not the best Tom Hanks movie.

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Speaker 1: But again, the kind of just loose background music, not

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really a score that you're listening to. But we've got

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all kinds of fantastic stuff in the soundtrack as far

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as songs go. Like we mentioned last Time you Got

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Them Coming in Singing yakat y Act two nineteen eighty

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eight movies where Yakayyac plays a major part. In the

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early scenes of the movie, we had twins and then

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we've got the family singing Yaktyact by the Coasters, and

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then we had a Land of a Thousand Dances. Everybody

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remembers that Part's where they're all dancing around singing the

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song by Wilson Pickett. Great scene. But what's interesting about

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this is they pulled in some songs by the l

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Wood Blues Review Elwood Blues, Ellwood Blues. You got it

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so literally dan Aykroyd's character from the Blues Brothers, that

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band that was the original Saturday Night Live band. For

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the most part. They come in, they've made their their

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spinoff band from the Blues Brothers, and they have several

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songs on this eric at least a couple of songs

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on this soundtrack as well.

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Speaker 2: That's fun, that's really cool.

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Speaker 1: You got drag Boat where dan Aykroyd is singing as

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Elwood Blues. And then you've also got a song called

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Hip hug Her, Hip hug Her right. This one is

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by the Elwood Blues Review as well. But you've really

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just got the members of the band. You don't have

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Elwood Blues singing. You've got Steve Cropper, You've got Booker T. Jones,

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Blues Brothers. He's his only line is if the fit

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to swear it.

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Speaker 2: But we're getting the band back together.

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Speaker 1: We're on a mission from gut So again another great

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soundtrack of songs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. I wanted to bring up just a few

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of the funniest scenes in both of these movies that

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we can talk about, and then I've got a few tidbits,

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and then what final judgment.

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Speaker 1: I guess, right, yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, let's stay with the great outdoors for.

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Speaker 1: Just a second. Okay, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Some of the funniest scenes I think are You've got

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the part where the guy is struck by lightning is.

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Speaker 1: Six times is it's sixty six to guys.

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Speaker 2: In the head.

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Speaker 1: Sixty six times? God, that's got hurt.

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Speaker 2: Okay. And then you also have the bat scene where

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the bat gets into the cabin. John Candy goes in there.

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He's like, no, no, I've got this. Everybody calm down.

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I'm gonna take care of this problem. And then it

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comes out He's like, it buzzed me. Hey, I'm telling you.

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Speaker 1: It is the same scene and.

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Speaker 2: You know what, it's not the only scene that we

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duplicate for one of these movies. Yeah, we'll talk about

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that here in just a second. Okay, the scene with

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the old ninety sixer.

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Speaker 1: What's the old ninety sixer?

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Speaker 4: Oh, that's our world famous Paul Bunyan's blue ox tick.

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It is a ninety six OUNSD prime aged beef steak

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and you or any member of your party orders the

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old ninety six or a finishes everybody eats for.

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Speaker 2: Free is like my favorite, right.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's absolutely the most memorable scene. And it became

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a thing, like I don't know that it was anywhere,

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like having these kind of outrageous things to eat and

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then you get a free meal, T shirt whatever. I

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don't think it became as much of a thing until

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this movie. Yeah, and then, oh god, I mean, all

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that's left is fat in the gristle. Yep.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever been to the Big Texan in Amarilla? No?

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I have eaten there, and they've got it on dis

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when you walk in, it's actually seventy two ounces and

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it looks like a cow's left butt cheek. Wow, it's

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it's massive.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Another one of my favorite scenes from the great outdoors.

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I don't know how they got this bear to do

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this thing. But when he's jumping up and down on

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the door with John Candy underneath, that is a scream man. Yeah,

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and he is just ragging that door, and of course

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John Candy is is so funny. You faster, yeah fast?

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Speaker 1: I think he said go faster, go fast, Go faster, dude.

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Speaker 2: That was funny.

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Speaker 1: That's hilarious.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the water skiing scene is.

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Speaker 1: Funny because he's just finished saying, what do you do

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in your job? You let go of the rope and

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not once, right, not once? And then he waves and

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faints in the water. Oh my gosh, I was dying.

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Speaker 2: Hey. First of all, I know it's a joke, but

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nobody ever starts on the dock holding the rope while

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your stupid idiot brother is at the controls of the

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my weight. Yeah, and then the fun the part that

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I may have laughed at the hardest. And it's a

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cheap thrill, I get it. But the first time I

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saw this when they shoot that bear in the butt

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with a shotgun and it blows his button bear, I laughed.

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I laughed hard. The first time I saw this, I

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thought that was hilarious. And then the closing dance scene

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is a great fun It's like the end of Footloose, right, Yeah,

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it's all about having fun and dancing and all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: That one is very very Blues Brothers, Like would they

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just break into song and everybody's just singing and dancing

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and having fun. I love it.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of closing credit scenes John Hughes movies

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that are a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, I gotta run your bathroom real quick. I'm gonna

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I'm gonna introduce mister thick Dick to mister Urine. Okay, sorry,

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we could not leave figure it outdoors saying that. I'm sorry,

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it's bad, bad, inappropriate. I apologize, Please forgive me. Okay,

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all right, we're going back to vacation now we are.

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Speaker 2: But before we do, I just want to say, the

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raccoons in the trash.

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Speaker 1: Scene you hate, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's funny at all. I think that's dumb.

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Speaker 1: You have had an issue with chipmunks since episode one

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of this show. I don't know what your deal is, dude.

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I mean, you need to find some Alvin love.

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Speaker 2: The Chipmunks singing backup for Michael Jackson have just tainted

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it for me. Okay, so let's talk about the funniest

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stuff from the movie National Lampoon's Vacation.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you something, this is no longer a vacation.

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Speaker 1: It's a quest.

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Speaker 3: It's a quest for fun.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have fun and you're gonna have fun. Okay,

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this is gonna be hard for National Lampoon Vacation. There

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are so many funny scenes.

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Speaker 2: Like literally they string it together from the opening scene

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all the way to the end, exactly funny scene after

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funny scene after funny scene. Yeah, so you start with

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the first one where Clark pulls up to pick up

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the Antarctic Glues super sports wagon and you know what,

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it didn't come in.

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Speaker 1: This is not the car you ordered. Take it easy, Russy,

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this is not the car I ordered.

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Speaker 2: And you have the sleaziest car salesman of all time.

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Eugene Levy. I thought this was interesting. Eugene Levy thought, Hey,

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I was in this movie. It's doing really, really well.

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Speaker 1: It's fun.

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Speaker 2: And David Letterman brought it up when he was talking

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to Chevy Chase about the movie. He said, David Letterman's like,

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how about that car salesman at the beginning. That was

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so funny. Eugene Levy almost fell out of his chair.

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He's like, he's talking about me.

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Speaker 1: Nice.

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Speaker 2: I thought that was really cool. So that's a funny scene.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Eugene Levy had been in with John Candy, had

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been in setv C TV.

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Speaker 2: With John Kenny.

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Speaker 1: That's correct.

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Speaker 2: Yep, the scene went early on Clark is trying to

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talk Ellen into performing a sexual act in the car

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with the kids.

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Speaker 1: Right, it had stuck.

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Speaker 2: It's so frigging funny. And then and that's why one

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of the reason I'm showing my cards here a little bit.

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Vacation is just a little bit naughty, a little harder edged, yeah,

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which makes it that much more hilarious with the payoffs

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean when they go into what south side

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of Chicago? Where the where do they go off the.

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Speaker 2: Road in the wrong is a Detroit Saint Louis?

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Speaker 1: Oh Saint Louis's right, Okay, so they go off honky lips.

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There is no way. I mean, you're not getting away

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with that in a movie today. That is not I know,

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00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,039
but I mean, you know, excuse me, could you please

469
00:23:23,039 --> 00:23:26,160
tell me how to get back on the Expressway. Oh,

470
00:23:27,279 --> 00:23:28,039
thank you very much.

471
00:23:29,599 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 2: I saw I saw Harold Ramus talk about this. He said,

472
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,079
every scene that had a cussword in it, they had

473
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:39,559
to do an alternate scene without cusswords. Right, okay, So

474
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:44,119
the alternate scene to that very word right there, the

475
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:48,119
guy says, what do I look like? Christopher Clobo? And

476
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:52,039
I'm like, no, the F word is much better there.

477
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:54,799
But the scene I wanted to bring up to you

478
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,720
is when he is trying to romance her panties off

479
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,359
with the vibrating bed and the champagne, and of course

480
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,720
the bed goes haywire, like the entire trip is going haywire.

481
00:24:05,319 --> 00:24:07,519
But Ellen, being a good wife, is still up for

482
00:24:07,799 --> 00:24:10,480
you know whatever. Let's just pull the you know, the

483
00:24:10,519 --> 00:24:12,599
bed spread off and put it on the floor, all right.

484
00:24:12,759 --> 00:24:15,839
The kids come in because of the racket that's happening,

485
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,400
and they're like, where's mom And he goes to the

486
00:24:19,559 --> 00:24:21,759
like thumb like she's in the other room.

487
00:24:22,519 --> 00:24:23,839
Speaker 1: I'm down here, I'm down here.

488
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 2: Kids go back to bed. Huh. Hilarious.

489
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:28,599
Speaker 1: Hilarious.

490
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 2: Also, he's got her panties on his on his thumb

491
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,960
and she rips it off. The scene when they go

492
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:40,039
to Dodge City. Hey, Underpants, move your chicken wings, turkey.

493
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,279
All that's improv All that's Chevy Chase gold great.

494
00:24:44,599 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 3: Hey, tander Foot, give your chicken wings, Turkey Clark.

495
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 2: That's not nice part of the act.

496
00:24:57,279 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 3: Huh, Hey underban, Hey, okay, I'm okay, I'm all right.

497
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna throw back to this is a personal story, right.

498
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,480
You got me into running back in two thousand and eight,

499
00:25:18,079 --> 00:25:21,200
I mean a long time ago, right, And so I

500
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,359
kind of ramped up suddenly and did a marathon within

501
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,680
a few months after we started running together, that's true.

502
00:25:27,079 --> 00:25:31,839
And at mile fifteen of the run, we go off

503
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,079
off road onto what I can just describe as a

504
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:39,160
walking trail. It goes by this lake. And at some point,

505
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,160
you know, my kids and my wife would drive to

506
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,680
different spots and they would wave and be filming and

507
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,000
all this other stuff. And at that point they had

508
00:25:50,279 --> 00:25:52,960
arrived at this place again, and they're like yay, Dad,

509
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,119
and I'm like proud of you, honey, And I start

510
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,359
doing these like big kisses, like I'm totally hamming it

511
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,799
up and I'm not paying attention to what I'm doing.

512
00:26:01,839 --> 00:26:04,839
At mile fifteen, my ankle goes off the edge of

513
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:09,920
this trail and I face first plant onto the gravel.

514
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,319
I remember that, yes, and I totally I had it

515
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,559
going through my head. I jump up like Chevy Chase

516
00:26:15,599 --> 00:26:19,480
after the shotgun and I'm like, okay, I'm okay, I'm okay,

517
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:20,720
I left.

518
00:26:20,759 --> 00:26:23,599
Speaker 2: You're gonna say? Casey was like, maybe you're chicken wings turkey.

519
00:26:24,039 --> 00:26:27,000
That's hilarious. We've we've already talked about Dinky versus the

520
00:26:27,039 --> 00:26:30,799
bumper with the highway patrolman and Chevy Chase jas son

521
00:26:30,799 --> 00:26:35,599
of a Bitch, the single greatest line ever delivered in

522
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,599
any Chevy Chase movie. But the scene where he's making

523
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,119
all the loving blow of kisses to Christy Brinkley while

524
00:26:43,279 --> 00:26:46,559
they're playing Little Boy Sweet and bever Delangelo is like

525
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,920
the dog wet on the picnic basket and he's like

526
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,880
spitting it out and at end is like, who cares whatever,

527
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,279
I'm hungry. I'll tell you a line that we still

528
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,480
My wife and I use this all the time. We

529
00:26:59,519 --> 00:27:01,440
were in air on a we went to the Grand

530
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,160
Canyon not too many years ago, and we're driving around

531
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,799
looking for the road to the Grand Canyon, and we

532
00:27:06,839 --> 00:27:09,680
could not help ourselves. We're like don't think you're gonna

533
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,599
find the Grand Canyon on this road. And I'm like,

534
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,119
it's only the biggest gd hole in the world.

535
00:27:16,839 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 4: I honestly don't think you're gonna find the Grand Canyon

536
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:21,000
on this road.

537
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 3: It's only the biggest goddamn hole in the world. Wark

538
00:27:24,599 --> 00:27:27,319
watch your language, like that the second biggest one.

539
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 2: And that scene where he jumps the family truckster, yeah, Dad,

540
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:32,759
you must have jun this thing.

541
00:27:32,799 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 1: Love fifty yard.

542
00:27:34,799 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 2: That's something to be proud of. Russie Yarns. So the

543
00:27:40,039 --> 00:27:42,200
interesting thing is that was filmed in Monument Valley, which

544
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,000
I was there in December, and it's another strange coincidence.

545
00:27:46,039 --> 00:27:49,200
I keep saying this, I don't go to movie locations,

546
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,559
but with any which way you can and every which

547
00:27:51,599 --> 00:27:54,680
way it lose and vacation. Of course, they shoot a

548
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,400
lot of it in Colorado, which I go there a

549
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,880
lot in Arizona. The scene where they jumped the family's truckster,

550
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,839
they had an the old eighties style stunt man who

551
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,720
was like, I'm just gonna put some knee pads on

552
00:28:06,839 --> 00:28:09,240
and jump this sucker. And they were talking about how

553
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,400
far he's gonna jump it, and he's like, put your

554
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,079
money where your mouth is. I'm gonna show you how

555
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,599
far I can freaking jump this truckster and he jumped

556
00:28:17,599 --> 00:28:21,880
it exactly where he drew the line. Wow, Like everybody

557
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,839
was like, there's no way you're gonna jump that far.

558
00:28:25,039 --> 00:28:25,960
Let's see your cash.

559
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,839
Speaker 1: Well, and you've got after that scene, of course, you

560
00:28:28,839 --> 00:28:30,920
have him walking through the desert, which is classic, a

561
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,680
classic moment, right, right, But then the mechanics.

562
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 2: Passive gas station, every hundred brains. Okay, so the manure

563
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,960
for brain mechanics right where Clark's like, how much is it?

564
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,039
And they're like, how much you got?

565
00:28:45,079 --> 00:28:45,279
Speaker 3: Boy?

566
00:28:46,079 --> 00:28:47,359
Speaker 2: All of it?

567
00:28:47,759 --> 00:28:50,319
Speaker 1: What does your sheriff think about your business practices?

568
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:55,039
Speaker 2: He pulls out his badge, right, Okay, So one of

569
00:28:55,079 --> 00:28:58,400
those guys looks like Dermott mulroney. But that's not him, right.

570
00:28:58,839 --> 00:29:01,960
The other guy, the guy who's the sheriff, that's Mickey Jones.

571
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you know who that is? I mean, I've

572
00:29:04,759 --> 00:29:06,720
seen him in a bajillion things.

573
00:29:06,519 --> 00:29:08,559
Speaker 2: Right, he's been an actor and he's been a lot

574
00:29:08,559 --> 00:29:08,960
of stuff.

575
00:29:09,119 --> 00:29:09,359
Speaker 1: Right.

576
00:29:09,599 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: He played drums for Bob Dylan, Okay, what he is

577
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,559
a founding member of the First Edition with singer Kenny Rogers.

578
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:23,359
Speaker 1: Well, throw back to our freaking big labouts at episode Wow.

579
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 2: That's right, that's awesome overall, Mickey Jones has played on

580
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:33,359
seventeen Gold records in two decades of a musical Wow Wow.

581
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,240
And then he's playing the freaking sheriff in Invacation.

582
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: He was he was with Jeff Bridges in Starman too.

583
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,079
He was the trucker in Starman.

584
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 2: There you go, Okay. The scene that I really want

585
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,720
to talk to you about, though, is the scene after Edna,

586
00:29:46,799 --> 00:29:49,680
of course has died. Huh. They drop her off at

587
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,240
her son's house in Phoenix in the Porn Range.

588
00:29:52,279 --> 00:29:54,599
Speaker 1: She can't be more than one hundred pounds. You are

589
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,440
not going to put her on the roof.

590
00:30:00,559 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 2: And then they go in the backyard and he's like.

591
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,359
Speaker 1: You think he'll be upset. Why would he be upset

592
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,440
to come home from vacation to find his dead mother

593
00:30:06,519 --> 00:30:07,039
on the porch.

594
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 2: And he's given that prayer. He's like, yay, though, they

595
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:18,640
walk to the valley of the Canaanites, give her a break, lord. Yeah.

596
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,480
And so he's given this total half butt prayer that

597
00:30:22,519 --> 00:30:24,200
he's trying to get on the road and get to

598
00:30:24,279 --> 00:30:28,039
Wally World, and of course, bevery angel is like, Lord,

599
00:30:28,119 --> 00:30:31,240
we love this woman with all our hearts, Like, let's

600
00:30:31,279 --> 00:30:35,000
not overdo it mom. So that scene is hilarious. Yeah,

601
00:30:35,359 --> 00:30:38,400
But when they drive off, they're in the car and

602
00:30:38,599 --> 00:30:41,920
all this bad crap has happened the entire trip, and

603
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,480
the family is basically like, we want to bail out, right,

604
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,759
I've had it, we can't take any more. And he

605
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,240
slams on the brakes and he turns to him and

606
00:30:49,279 --> 00:30:51,359
he's like, I think you're all left.

607
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:51,559
Speaker 1: In the head.

608
00:30:51,759 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 2: Right, We're gonna have so much f and fun. You're

609
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,200
gonna be whistling zippity dude out of your a holes. Yeah,

610
00:30:58,319 --> 00:31:00,160
we're ten hours from the F and Fun park. You

611
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,640
want to bail out? Well, this is no longer a vacation,

612
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,640
it's a quest, right, it's a question fun.

613
00:31:04,759 --> 00:31:06,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're gonna have fun. I'm gonna have fun.

614
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:11,119
Speaker 2: So that meltdown with the f worts is hilarious. Now,

615
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,400
like I said before, they had to film an alternate

616
00:31:13,519 --> 00:31:17,039
version for TV. I've seen that version. It is not

617
00:31:17,079 --> 00:31:22,319
as funny shocking. Right, Here's the thing. John Hughes stole

618
00:31:22,359 --> 00:31:27,640
that exact scene and used it in another John Hughes movie.

619
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,279
Can you name that movie.

620
00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:31,359
Speaker 1: Christmas Vacation.

621
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll go with you on that, but that's

622
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:35,720
not what I was talking about.

623
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,559
Speaker 1: Okay, what you got.

624
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 2: It's the f bomb tirade that Steve Martin does.

625
00:31:41,079 --> 00:31:44,559
Speaker 1: At the end of Plants, Trains and Nomobiles, the the

626
00:31:45,319 --> 00:31:48,000
rented car not being there, that one tirade.

627
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 2: Poor effing Wheels in a seat.

628
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,559
Speaker 1: Yeah right, you're ft right, Yeah.

629
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,799
Speaker 2: So it just as I'm going through these, I'm like, man,

630
00:31:57,039 --> 00:31:58,960
John Hughes keeps stealing from himself.

631
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: But it's it every time.

632
00:32:00,599 --> 00:32:01,359
Speaker 2: It's good every time.

633
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,039
Speaker 1: Right, you see the character completely lose his mind.

634
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,799
Speaker 2: Yes, it's my assertion that The Great Outdoors is a

635
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:13,400
complete thievery of vacation and it's a reboot.

636
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

637
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,839
Speaker 2: So we'll talk about final judgment here in a second. Okay.

638
00:32:17,079 --> 00:32:19,359
And then one scene I wanted to talk about, Clark

639
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,200
has had enough of villain and he goes to the

640
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,160
bar with the white shoes.

641
00:32:22,359 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: So glad that you said. I was waiting for them, Like,

642
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,680
we cannot, we cannot leave this movie behind without talking

643
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,440
about this is crazy. This is crazy.

644
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 2: He meets up with Christy Brinkley.

645
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: He I mean, dude, one little fight and he is

646
00:32:37,079 --> 00:32:37,920
out trolling.

647
00:32:39,039 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 2: He is trolling the water, the second in the bar.

648
00:32:43,839 --> 00:32:47,599
Speaker 1: Third or fourth, he's checking every single one of them out.

649
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,839
One's not interested, the other one has a boyfriend. And

650
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,599
finally he bumps into Christy Brinkley, who he's seen this

651
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:59,119
whole time. Creates the story about the being the hotel.

652
00:32:58,839 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 2: Owner when you're in the CIA.

653
00:33:03,119 --> 00:33:05,799
Speaker 1: No, I was, but I don't like to talk about it.

654
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,599
Speaker 2: So they go to the pool. Now. Then here's the

655
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:15,279
thing with Christy Brinkley. She had been in glamour magazines,

656
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,519
she had been in sports illuspirated swimsuit issues. I don't

657
00:33:18,519 --> 00:33:20,480
know if she'd been in music videos up to that point,

658
00:33:20,519 --> 00:33:24,200
but she was the it girl every magazine in a

659
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,440
bikini known to man. Harold Raymis is like, you got

660
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,359
to be topless, and she's like, Nope, not happen. And

661
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,559
they're like, what are you talking about? You are half

662
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,799
naked all the time. She's like, I have made a

663
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:41,519
fantastic living by making people wonder what is underneath my

664
00:33:41,559 --> 00:33:45,759
bikini and I am not showing it. And I thought

665
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,400
that's a shrewd business.

666
00:33:47,039 --> 00:33:49,599
Speaker 1: Move by a good job. Yeah, I mean you're you're

667
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,759
you're trying to stare into the water the whole time

668
00:33:51,839 --> 00:33:54,000
she's in the pool when you think she's naked, right,

669
00:33:54,039 --> 00:33:57,559
and you never see a thing. I mean, I still

670
00:33:57,559 --> 00:34:00,200
don't have a problem with brother Angelo going crazy a

671
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,599
little bit later on exactly. I mean, she was just

672
00:34:02,599 --> 00:34:04,839
a shoos a pool waitress, a waitress in the pool.

673
00:34:05,559 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 2: I mean, he's ordering some fish for you and Audrey.

674
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,639
Speaker 1: He believe that, don't you rest Oh yeah, you think

675
00:34:12,679 --> 00:34:13,559
mom's gonna buy it?

676
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 2: Can tuck rs. But here's the interesting thing. So for

677
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:24,599
that scene, they compromise, Okay, we'll find no no topless.

678
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:29,119
You gotta wear lingerie though, and she's like, okay, fine whatever.

679
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: Sure.

680
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,639
Speaker 2: So one day Harold raimis, he's working, he's dealing with problems,

681
00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:35,559
he's directing people, he's dealing with, you know, bursts of

682
00:34:35,559 --> 00:34:38,320
anger from Chevy Chase. And he gets a phone call

683
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,199
and they're like, hey, you need to get down to wardrobe.

684
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,480
And he's like, what's going on in wardrobe? Like what's

685
00:34:42,519 --> 00:34:46,599
the problem, Like, well, we're working with Christy to help

686
00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:49,199
her pick her laingerie. He's like, yeah, I can do that.

687
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:50,639
I'll be down there in a seconds.

688
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:53,079
Speaker 1: Yeah.

689
00:34:53,119 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 2: So I thought it was interesting. She would not take

690
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:57,480
her clothes off.

691
00:34:58,199 --> 00:35:00,199
Speaker 1: I'm been good for her.

692
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 2: Yep. Okay, I've got just a couple of tidbits I

693
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,480
want to talk to you about from both of these movies. Okay,

694
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:13,519
let's do tidbits from The Great Outdoors First, money choice, Biche.

695
00:35:13,559 --> 00:35:14,159
Speaker 4: What did he say?

696
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 2: What When John Candy showed up on set, he thought, Hey,

697
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,159
this is an outdoorsy movie. You know we're gonna be camping.

698
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,559
So he had a beard. Oh okay, And they showed

699
00:35:27,599 --> 00:35:30,920
up and they're like, I'm not really sure about the beard,

700
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:32,719
so they made him shave it right.

701
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,559
Speaker 1: So same thing with John Travolta and Urban Cowboy. He

702
00:35:36,599 --> 00:35:38,920
thought Cowboy supposed to have a beard, showed up with

703
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,079
the beard, They're like, nope, nope. That's why at the

704
00:35:41,119 --> 00:35:42,679
beginning of the movie you see him with the beard

705
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:43,920
and then he shaves it all off.

706
00:35:44,039 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 2: Interesting, there you go. Okay, this movie took three weeks

707
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,960
to film in late October and November of eighty seven. Okay,

708
00:35:51,079 --> 00:35:52,960
so it's supposed to be summer, but really it's set

709
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:57,000
in the fall. This was shot at bass Lake Lodge

710
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:58,719
in California.

711
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,039
Speaker 1: You know what else was shot? No, The Star Trek,

712
00:36:03,639 --> 00:36:07,679
where Kirk is climbing up the side of the cliff

713
00:36:08,039 --> 00:36:10,599
and then all of a sudden, Spock is like levitating

714
00:36:10,639 --> 00:36:13,000
next to him Star Trek five and they sing, row

715
00:36:13,079 --> 00:36:17,400
row your boat around the campig same, same, Like.

716
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 2: That was the worst of the Star Trek movies, but

717
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,039
it came out in the summer of eighty nine, of

718
00:36:24,079 --> 00:36:26,599
which I'm plenting my flag as the best here for

719
00:36:26,679 --> 00:36:30,719
movies in the eighties. Oh wow, So okay, all right, now,

720
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,280
I noticed this the other day when I was watching

721
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:37,159
The Great Outdoors, the scene where John Candy's character in

722
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,320
Dan Arkward's character, Chet and Roman are sitting there and

723
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,920
they're talking about, you know, what do you see out there?

724
00:36:43,079 --> 00:36:46,280
He's like, I see a business investment and millions of

725
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,000
acres of you know, blah blah blah. And he's like,

726
00:36:48,039 --> 00:36:50,880
what do you see? He's like, I see trees. I

727
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,039
see nothing but trees. Right, they're sitting there. They both

728
00:36:54,199 --> 00:36:58,079
have Star Wars glasses from Burger King back in the day.

729
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, although I think and looking at it, we decided

730
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:02,760
maybe it was Empire Striking.

731
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 2: One was Empres Strikes Back, and one was Return of

732
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:04,679
the Jedi.

733
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: So there you go. So you noticed Star Wars cups. Yes,

734
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,840
I noticed the beer in the Great Outdoors. There are

735
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,880
a ton of people drinking this beer called Point beer,

736
00:37:16,639 --> 00:37:18,880
and you don't see it around here. This is a

737
00:37:19,039 --> 00:37:23,840
Wisconsin beer. It is made by Stevens Point Brewery, which

738
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:30,360
is the fifth oldest continuously operating brewery literally started in

739
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:35,280
eighteen sixty four and sold beer to the Civil War troops. Wow,

740
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,519
that's how it is, and the third oldest privately owned

741
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,239
brewery in the nation as well.

742
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,079
Speaker 2: Interesting, there you go. Okay, do you know the name

743
00:37:43,119 --> 00:37:46,360
of the bear in the Great Outdoors? No? Bear's name

744
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:46,880
is Jody.

745
00:37:48,039 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 1: That is the worst name for a bear I've ever

746
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:50,599
heard of.

747
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,679
Speaker 2: Why you know why I know that? No, because the

748
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,840
effing raccoons told me that at the end in the

749
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:57,880
closing credits.

750
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,039
Speaker 1: What, Yes, they said, the bears is Jody Jody.

751
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, okay, let's blip over vacation.

752
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,199
Speaker 1: Yep, this is crazy.

753
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 2: This is crazy.

754
00:38:07,119 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 1: It's crazy.

755
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 2: Now then, I've already told you about the alternate cussing scenes, right,

756
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,400
They always had to have something for television, and almost

757
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,519
always those cussing scenes don't work. Right now, then, do

758
00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:23,360
you know who Clark and Ellen rent the Tints from

759
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:28,159
when they're in South Fork, Colorado. No, Brian Doyle Murray.

760
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,679
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah right, eating the watermelons and flower seeds.

761
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,199
What does heat spitting something out?

762
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 2: He's spitting watermelon seeds out. Yeah, so they rent the

763
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,199
tints from him. Yeah, you know where. He shows up

764
00:38:38,199 --> 00:38:40,079
again in the vacation movies.

765
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: He is the boss in Christmas Vacation who gets kidnapped

766
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:44,039
by cousins, the.

767
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 2: Mister Shirley from Christmas Vacation.

768
00:38:46,519 --> 00:38:47,639
Speaker 1: Surely you can't be serious.

769
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 2: I am serious, and don't call me Shirley. Chevy Chase

770
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:54,039
actually adopted Dinky the dog after the filming of this movie.

771
00:38:54,119 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 1: What, yes, that's that is awesome?

772
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:57,199
Speaker 2: How about that?

773
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good one. So you're touching on a

774
00:38:59,559 --> 00:39:02,000
subject that I just wanted to cover real quick. We've

775
00:39:02,039 --> 00:39:05,159
got several vacation movies that come after this vacation. Yeah,

776
00:39:05,159 --> 00:39:08,559
you've got European Vacation. Yes, you've got Christmas Vacation, You've

777
00:39:08,599 --> 00:39:11,760
got Vegas Vacation. You've got some others that we don't

778
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,639
probably even need to talk about. And then you kind

779
00:39:13,639 --> 00:39:16,519
of have this soft reboot where it's vacation but with

780
00:39:16,679 --> 00:39:20,960
Rusty as a dad. Right, So going back to let's

781
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:26,360
say the original four, yes, you've got vacation, European Christmas,

782
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:30,480
and Vegas. Yes, give me your how they rank for you?

783
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 2: Okay, vacation number one, Christmas vacation number two. Although I

784
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:40,400
am a strong apologist for my number three of European vacation.

785
00:39:40,519 --> 00:39:43,440
I think it's very funny, Okay, I don't hate it

786
00:39:43,519 --> 00:39:44,599
like most people hate it.

787
00:39:44,679 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: Okay.

788
00:39:45,159 --> 00:39:48,639
Speaker 2: And then Vegas vacation is a distant fourth, but I

789
00:39:48,679 --> 00:39:51,719
still think it's very funny. Yeah, I love them all.

790
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,400
I think they're all great.

791
00:39:53,599 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: So Christmas Vacation, as I said when we did our episode,

792
00:39:57,599 --> 00:39:59,159
I didn't even really like it that much the first

793
00:39:59,159 --> 00:40:00,880
time I saw it, but grown to love it so

794
00:40:01,119 --> 00:40:04,280
much it is now my number one. Okay. Number two

795
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:09,360
for me is the original National Lampoon vacation. Okay. Number

796
00:40:09,599 --> 00:40:15,079
three is gonna be European Vacation, which I've seen maybe

797
00:40:15,119 --> 00:40:18,679
once or twice, if that really okay, and it's it's

798
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:24,639
definitely a distant third. And then Vegas Vacation. I hate it.

799
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,519
I saw it in the theater. I thought it was terrible,

800
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,159
and I have not seen it again since. Now I

801
00:40:31,199 --> 00:40:33,679
was talking to Arlin, our buddy Arlind about this, and

802
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,679
he was like, No, Vegas Vacation was hilarious, and it's

803
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,480
like Rusty meets the Mobsters and it's like Jerry Wintraub

804
00:40:40,639 --> 00:40:43,320
is the mobster and it's and I'm like, I don't

805
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,360
remember any of that, So I may need to go

806
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,159
back and give Vegas Vacation a try to see if

807
00:40:48,159 --> 00:40:49,360
it's warmed up any for me.

808
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 2: I think it's great. I think there are some real

809
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,880
funny moments when they're at the damn and cousin he's like,

810
00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:01,199
where's the damn bathroom that takes care of tidbits for

811
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:01,880
me from vacation?

812
00:41:02,079 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: Okay, so one last tidbit for me. Yeah. John Hughes'

813
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:11,800
last directed movie was Curly Sue. He didn't do I mean,

814
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:16,000
he didn't really do anything for the rest of his life.

815
00:41:16,199 --> 00:41:19,639
He tragically died at the tender age of fifty nine,

816
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,119
I think in two thousand and eighty.

817
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

818
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,679
Speaker 1: I have to wonder if that hadn't happened, if he

819
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,519
would have ever come back and started doing stuff. I

820
00:41:27,559 --> 00:41:29,519
don't know what it is that led him to stop

821
00:41:29,599 --> 00:41:35,239
doing movies altogether, but he did write some stuff, but

822
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,840
used a different name. Did you know this? No, so

823
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,119
you know of the movie Beethoven with the Big Saint Bernard.

824
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,159
That's pretty awful, like a John Ritter movie, right, pretty

825
00:41:45,159 --> 00:41:45,599
well known.

826
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 3: Yeah.

827
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: He wrote that under the pseudonym Edmund Dantes.

828
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 2: Dantes from Freaking the Count of Money Christo.

829
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: Very good. That was my I was going to say,

830
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,039
do you know? And there you go? Wow, that's the character.

831
00:41:59,039 --> 00:42:01,719
He took the characters from the Count of Monte Cristo

832
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,599
and that was his pseudonym. Whenever he would write, you

833
00:42:04,639 --> 00:42:07,360
are blowing my mind. There you go. Okay, you're ready

834
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,519
for final judge, Ready for final judgment. Okay, let's go.

835
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,199
You go first, to me, go first, You go first.

836
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,000
We know what you're gonna do already, so you go ahead.

837
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 2: And this is the biggest mismatch we've ever had here.

838
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:24,360
The Shirley can't be serious, okay. National Lampoon's Vacation has

839
00:42:24,559 --> 00:42:29,360
hilarious scene after hilarious scene after memorable line.

840
00:42:29,599 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: After I'm not gonna sneeze. I'm over here trying to

841
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,400
restrain myself from talking while you make a statement like that,

842
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:36,039
but go ahead.

843
00:42:36,119 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 2: Literally one of the funniest comedies of the nineteen eighties,

844
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:44,239
and then you have The Great Outdoors that is inferior

845
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:48,840
in every way. It's way less funny, the characters are

846
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,519
way less funny. The story has already been told. I

847
00:42:53,039 --> 00:42:55,239
don't like to rain on my man John Hughes, because

848
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:59,559
I love John Hughes. But it's a forgettable comedy, and

849
00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:02,679
The Lampoon's Vacation is one of the greatest comedies of

850
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,920
the landslide for vacation.

851
00:43:06,559 --> 00:43:08,280
Speaker 1: Okay, are you finished?

852
00:43:08,599 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker 3: Yes?

853
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: Go? Okay. We did Groundhog Day versus Multiplicity, and you're

854
00:43:14,519 --> 00:43:19,880
telling me that this is the biggest, biggest landslide, biggest.

855
00:43:19,519 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 2: Gap between the two movies.

856
00:43:20,639 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: You're out of your freaking mind. Okay, you're out of

857
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,719
your freeman. I am not going to I mean, I'm

858
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,920
gonna I'm gonna share it right off. I Am not

859
00:43:27,039 --> 00:43:29,000
going to come out here and say that The Great

860
00:43:29,039 --> 00:43:32,840
Outdoors is better the National Lampoon Vacation. But I'm gonna

861
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,079
say it's freaking close. This is a good matchup. This.

862
00:43:36,519 --> 00:43:39,719
The Great Outdoors is a hysterical movie. It's one of

863
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,960
John Candy's best, It's one of Dan Ackroid's best. You've

864
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,559
got suck my wake, You've got the old ninety six er.

865
00:43:47,039 --> 00:43:50,840
You've got all of these iconic scenes. You've got great acting,

866
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:55,599
Annette Benning's debut, You've got the skiing scene, you've got

867
00:43:55,679 --> 00:43:59,920
the bear scenes. This is a fantastic movie. For you

868
00:44:00,119 --> 00:44:03,719
to say that it is the biggest landslide, the biggest

869
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,920
Mitch mismatch we've ever had, is outrageous. Okay, you are

870
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,320
not wrong about your pick. Vacation is a better movie,

871
00:44:11,679 --> 00:44:14,559
but it is close. And there would be days that

872
00:44:14,639 --> 00:44:16,599
I would say, if you said pick one of these,

873
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,719
I would pick the Great Outdoors. There would be days

874
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,760
there would be days that I picked Vacation. There would

875
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,960
be days that I picked the Great Outdoors. They are

876
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:29,000
both fantastic movies, both worthy. You saying that there's this

877
00:44:29,079 --> 00:44:32,719
is the biggest Mitch match we've ever had is ridiculous.

878
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,280
But I don't disagree with your pick. It is Vacation

879
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:36,920
that is the better.

880
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 2: Interesting. Yeah, Okay, let me ask you this. Yeah, rank

881
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,559
the three herald raymis movies that we've covered so far,

882
00:44:44,079 --> 00:44:50,199
National Lamdfid's Vacation, Ye, Groundhog Day, Multiplicity, Caddie Shack.

883
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:55,079
Speaker 1: Yeah. Four. So Multiplicity is by far the worst, right,

884
00:44:55,119 --> 00:44:57,920
It's it's it's it was not good. It is a

885
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,920
bad movie. I'm standing on that. It's a bad movie.

886
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 2: I'm gonna you're hearing my feelings.

887
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:09,159
Speaker 1: Now, well you got it coming, misters. So then you've

888
00:45:09,199 --> 00:45:14,239
got uh, Harold Ramis, You've got uh, you.

889
00:45:14,199 --> 00:45:16,559
Speaker 2: Got Caddy Shack, you got vacation, You've got groundhog Day,

890
00:45:16,599 --> 00:45:17,559
you got multiplicity.

891
00:45:17,639 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: Okay, so it's gonna go. So multiplicity is the worst.

892
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:27,440
Then you've got vacation number three. Vacation is number three, okay,

893
00:45:27,599 --> 00:45:30,440
Caddy Shack. I'm gonna watch before I watch vacation Oak.

894
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,199
And number one is groundhog Day. I love groundhog Day.

895
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,199
Top of the list for me for sure.

896
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:35,760
Speaker 2: Wow.

897
00:45:36,119 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, how about you?

898
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 2: Number one? Vacation best Harold Raymis movie ever.

899
00:45:41,599 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: Wow?

900
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:48,079
Speaker 2: Then groundhog Day, Then Caddy Shack, Okay, then multiplicity, and

901
00:45:48,159 --> 00:45:51,079
I love Caddy Shack. But vacation is the best. Man,

902
00:45:51,119 --> 00:45:51,960
It's so funny.

903
00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: So let's I mean, just because you've said this absolute nonsense,

904
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,199
I'm go got I gotta ask this question. What multiplicity

905
00:45:58,280 --> 00:45:59,239
or the great outdoors?

906
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 2: Which one is multiplicity?

907
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 1: Every day of the week, you are out of your

908
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,199
frigging mind and such out of your mind.

909
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,679
Speaker 2: No, Michael Keener or dan Aykroyd.

910
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 1: People, you you should come and denounce Jason right now

911
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,119
for what he is saying about the great outdoors. It

912
00:46:16,199 --> 00:46:16,760
is terrible.

913
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 2: Well, we want to hear from you, guys. How did

914
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,639
we do? Where do you? Where do you weigh these two?

915
00:46:22,039 --> 00:46:23,840
I love the Summer of eighty eight. This one just

916
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,400
didn't quite hit me. I think it's a sweet movie,

917
00:46:26,639 --> 00:46:28,960
and it does give me nostalgic feelings. My family used

918
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,719
to go to the lake. It's just not not even

919
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,280
close to as good as vacation. But if I'm wrong,

920
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:35,199
I want you to come after me.

921
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,159
Speaker 1: You wouldn't know a good movie if it fell out

922
00:46:37,159 --> 00:46:39,320
of a sky, landed on your face and started a

923
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:43,559
wigle my friend, how about a zagnut oh man?

924
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,760
Speaker 2: All right, Well, that wraps up this matchup. Hit us

925
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:48,920
up on Facebook, hit us up on Twitter, send us

926
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:53,800
an email, become a Patreon member. Next week, d we

927
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:58,159
are covering Cinderella's Long Cold Winter again, another album from

928
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:02,239
the summer of nineteen eighty eight. It's unbelievable. And then

929
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,119
the week after that we're gonna compare it to Van

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Halen's Oh You eight one two? Uh Hey, Gar, We'll

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get to that. We'll get to that from the summer

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of nineteen eighty eight. That's gonna be a great matchup.

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We've got some friends joining us for that. Come back

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next week, that great matchup.

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Speaker 1: See you guys then, thank you so much. We can't

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do it without you. See you next week, Thy guys,