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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine hileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going over the same parenting topics over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's all make like we're doing something important for

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<v Speaker 2>our families. Each Wednesday we bring you our thoughts on

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<v Speaker 2>a newer entertainment property, and for this week of September thirtieth,

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<v Speaker 2>we are discussing season four, episode six of Only Murders

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<v Speaker 2>in the Building. It was called blow Up, and the

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<v Speaker 2>amount of handheld camera footage was oh, is it giving

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<v Speaker 2>you family enough to make my brain and blow up?

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<v Speaker 2>But I persevered it wasn't as bad as the pilot

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<v Speaker 2>of Lost. I will say that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I didn't think about that though. There was quite

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of shaky cam yeah, but well knowing when

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<v Speaker 1>it was like the planted cameras.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, exactly in Oliver's refrigerator. Yes, this was all very

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they should have called this one adaptation because

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<v Speaker 2>it was all like what's real, what's fake, what's being filmed,

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<v Speaker 2>what's a documentary, what's a what's fictional, what's who found footage? Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>they called it the Blair Witch Project.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I appreciate the gimmick of it. It was fun.

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<v Speaker 1>It made me think of the of the episode from

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<v Speaker 1>season one that was all from the point of view

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<v Speaker 1>of the deaf character, and that was an unhappy comparison

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<v Speaker 1>for this episode because that was yes, and this one

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<v Speaker 1>that was like something I hadn't seen before, and this

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I see it all right. But still it

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<v Speaker 1>was a nice a novel twist, and I give them

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<v Speaker 1>points for that. It got us not really very much further,

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<v Speaker 1>but never although we now have a second victim and

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<v Speaker 1>various other theories, and the fact that everything has been filmed,

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<v Speaker 1>so theoretically was something filmed when Saz was killed. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know when when did whoever the mystery person, but

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<v Speaker 1>the cameras in the rooms, and we also have the

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<v Speaker 1>mystery of does Loretta just like maybe have the stomach

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<v Speaker 1>flew or everybody else who answered her phone. It did

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<v Speaker 1>sort of sound like stream going though.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you know that's not the real final story there.

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<v Speaker 1>That is No, that is not was not intended as

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<v Speaker 1>an answer to his question. I do not believe whether

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<v Speaker 1>it was another person or whether she was just in

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<v Speaker 1>distress for some other reason, right, bad shellfish.

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<v Speaker 2>I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Very happy to see an actor from my olden days done.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember you, even under all that gray hair man,

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<v Speaker 1>You're not that much older than me. Could maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>little hair and eye something come on. But it was

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<v Speaker 1>fun to see him and then to realize who he was,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe I have to go back and watch that

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<v Speaker 1>scene again. But so we did get some scenes after that,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like, yeah, yep, I see him under there.

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<v Speaker 2>I see him, Yep, I see him.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember you, remember you decomposing all through the American

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<v Speaker 1>Werewolf in London. I remember you. You were fun. But

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<v Speaker 1>as we noted, interestingly, I AMDB aiding and abetting the

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<v Speaker 1>mystery of who he was by not giving him a character.

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<v Speaker 2>Decline to give him a name, and.

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<v Speaker 1>At least I can see the producers doing that. How

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<v Speaker 1>do we feel about IMDb the authority on who's playing

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<v Speaker 1>what along with it? Well, I wonder if it will

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<v Speaker 1>get filled in now that it's dropped.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, because I remember we talked a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit about this when we were talking about loss. Like

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<v Speaker 2>if you if you want to know who somebody is

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<v Speaker 2>and then you accidentally stray your eyes slightly to the

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<v Speaker 2>right and the column that says how many episodes they've been,

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<v Speaker 2>you find stuff out and like I remember in the

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<v Speaker 2>second Knives Out movie, glass Onion, Yeah, one of the

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<v Speaker 2>many characters if you looked up the actor and you

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<v Speaker 2>got two names, Oh okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And so yeah, that's not good.

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<v Speaker 2>Was a big spoiler, you know, based on what.

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<v Speaker 1>The Yeah, it may depend on whether how important dudentof

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen.

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<v Speaker 2>Did we see Well, they've all said that he that

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<v Speaker 2>they've all said that that's who he is. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he perhaps has some secondary identity that is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be important.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess in this show. No, everything's always straightforward. There's

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<v Speaker 1>never any there's never any twists, no, not at all. No,

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<v Speaker 1>no no extra bodies in the incinerator halfway through the season. Nope,

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<v Speaker 1>Well who knew that spare body parts were such a

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<v Speaker 1>potent way to identify the deceased?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? And also like how it took them one second

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<v Speaker 2>of having that box open to realize that there were

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<v Speaker 2>two shoulder joints? Should there like did not the detective

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<v Speaker 2>look at this at all?

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<v Speaker 1>One would think? And I would expect the detectives to

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<v Speaker 1>be much more eager to dig through the ashes and

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<v Speaker 1>look at things than these folks, right, put it back

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<v Speaker 1>in the box?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but of course, And also, like you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>detective said, well, I thought she'd be better with you

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<v Speaker 2>than on an evidence stones that. Yeah, Like, isn't it

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<v Speaker 2>still evidence they haven't solved this yet?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes? And also are you allowed to just like take

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<v Speaker 1>a cab away from the scene of a crime like

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<v Speaker 1>they did? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think they took a cab. I think they

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<v Speaker 2>took Charles's car.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but at any rate, at any rate, should they

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<v Speaker 1>not have stuck around to talk to the police since

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<v Speaker 1>theoretically somebody might have been shooting at them?

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, well, fortunately the police know where they live, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll just stop by in person to give divine joy.

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<v Speaker 1>Randolph a little screen time, Yes, which is funny with me. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I have no objection. She is very fun and her

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<v Speaker 1>her attitude towards them is more and more my attitude

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<v Speaker 1>towards It's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Indeed, it's just hard to talk about this because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>every episode is just you know, you just know that

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<v Speaker 2>nothing really pertinent is going to be resolved that's revealed

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<v Speaker 2>until the very end, you know, and the way that

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<v Speaker 2>they suddenly decide, well, it wasn't the sisters, well, wasn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they're pretty weird, they're pretty well just like

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<v Speaker 2>with everybody, you know. They're like, oh, well then they

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't have done it. Well, yeah they could have.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, they're just running through suspects here, so it

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<v Speaker 1>either has to be somebody we've dismissed or somebody from

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<v Speaker 1>out of the blue. Right, we haven't seen much of

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<v Speaker 1>jan I guess they've she's resurfaced, but right, was she

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<v Speaker 1>just living in the tunnels in the building, not ever

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<v Speaker 1>pop an ud Yeah, I kind of miss her, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of miss Tina Fay cold. We have Tina Faye back,

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<v Speaker 1>We'll swap you the Brothers sisters for Tina Fey.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Yeah, very similar kind of characterization of like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm an artist, or just like I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>I'm superior. Yeah, I guess what she was.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess Molly Shannon is doing that shtick this time.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that kind of indie stuff is a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>pretty easy target to came out.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true.

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<v Speaker 1>But I guess we were doing. We were taken down

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<v Speaker 1>Hollywood in Hollywood, and now we're going to take down

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<v Speaker 1>little Hollywood. So you know what's going to be left?

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>And we've done Broadway and we've done podcasting.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's all a scam.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing is real, no, nothing all.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen the pig in a while either.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think he's on the opening credits. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Howard is walking him in the opening credits.

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<v Speaker 2>He is so but is he back? Is he living

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<v Speaker 2>in Mabel's apartment? Is he?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Which he saw that? Got to see the dog again, right,

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<v Speaker 1>The convenient burd plot purposes once again spotting yes dogs, Yes, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Yeah, we need some parenting stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we had the requisite old people don't understand the

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<v Speaker 1>young people's slam.

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<v Speaker 2>The tea, the tea.

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<v Speaker 1>On the rug. Yeah, you know, come on, Yeah, when

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<v Speaker 1>did that I have heard that, and then people just

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<v Speaker 1>started saying it on a podcast I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was listening to, Oh like spilling the tea? Yes, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that's been around for a little.

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<v Speaker 1>While as it. I don't know. They make things up,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't. I don't believe I've ever heard used

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<v Speaker 1>that in a sentence. I do sort of know what

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<v Speaker 1>it means.

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<v Speaker 2>My gen Z child has definitely used it.

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<v Speaker 1>That seems to be about where it's that. But actually

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<v Speaker 1>the Bobby Bones show used to have a segment called

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<v Speaker 1>Let's spill the tea, There you go? Of the staff,

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<v Speaker 1>one of them would say, tattle on another one of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I don't know, there you go. So that's been

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<v Speaker 2>a few years. Yeah, they're not gen Z. The Bobby

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<v Speaker 2>Bones people are more millennial. I would they millennial? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I keep forgetting everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>For well, I don't know. I had lost all track

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<v Speaker 1>of generations. I know I'm middle to end baby boomer. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all the rest of you are just one big one

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<v Speaker 1>with young people making up say and coming up with

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<v Speaker 1>technology making me feel that's right, and Martin and Steve

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<v Speaker 1>just around being confused. Well, I had better a better

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<v Speaker 1>time with this episode than I have with the others,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, I don't expect to be I would

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<v Speaker 1>not do, not expect nor would not want to be

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<v Speaker 1>doing this again. So what else they get?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we will have to see.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought this was a very mom like thing from

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<v Speaker 1>the detective. Was when they're all going, somebody's trying to

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<v Speaker 1>kill us, and she says, as someone who's wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>kill you the past three years, I understand, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>very I brought you into this world. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>outcome to that. And they do sympathize, Yes, I feel you.

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<v Speaker 1>If she's she's apparently just been assigned to them, Apparently that's.

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<v Speaker 2>She's just like, mind these mind these three yahoos. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just.

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<v Speaker 1>No matter what she's going to be the detective who's coming,

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<v Speaker 1>right or else? She's given them notes behind the scenes, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I think was supposedly what she was doing. Right. Mostly

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<v Speaker 1>she just wants a camera on her too, why not?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? And yeah, and of course we have the parental

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<v Speaker 2>urge to document and spy upon, Yes, our children.

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<v Speaker 1>That is very appealing. Where do you get those cameras?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you hide them in someone's refrigerator? That's right?

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<v Speaker 1>That was impressive. But the same time you also have

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<v Speaker 1>that feeling of looking at your children who are very

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<v Speaker 1>into something and going, these girls don't seem quite right.

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<v Speaker 1>Perhaps I should get them dance lessons instead.

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<v Speaker 2>Something other than whatever it is they're trying to do

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<v Speaker 2>here awfully.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know. Yes, we had a mention of

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who eats the whole apple seeds, stem and even

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<v Speaker 1>the little sticker children don't do that. A parenting tip

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<v Speaker 1>of the week, watch how your children needs an apple?

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<v Speaker 1>Do not allow that.

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<v Speaker 2>I this is true. Had a friend whose daughter would

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<v Speaker 2>do that, who would eat the whole apple. And she

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<v Speaker 2>would go through these like jags where she would eat

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<v Speaker 2>tons and tons of them. You know, she would eat

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<v Speaker 2>like a bunch of apples all at once. Yeah. Those

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<v Speaker 2>seeds have cyanide in them, so if you eat a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of them, you can actually get sick.

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<v Speaker 1>And she did this sounds like the plot for next season.

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<v Speaker 1>Yea in the building. Look, somebody gave me all these apples.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, she actually made herself sick.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well she had to stop.

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<v Speaker 1>That meant she stopped. Then that's good because that's a

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<v Speaker 1>little that's the kind of things can get you on

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<v Speaker 1>a TV show people not admiring you. But yikes, No,

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<v Speaker 1>it was interesting. I've had kids who just like eat

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<v Speaker 1>like one one layer around the outside of the apple

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<v Speaker 1>and are all done.

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<v Speaker 2>So yes, that is that is the more likely scenario.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's more typical. Yes, there's still a whole apple.

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<v Speaker 1>I see it effectively peeled it with your.

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<v Speaker 2>Spit, so now no one else can eat it. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I would find them like in the sink, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>aiming for the garbage disposal, or in the garbage. I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>there is so much Foodlet like, what are we doing here?

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<v Speaker 1>That really bothers my husband. He will take it in

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<v Speaker 1>eat the rest of it's got a spider, But I

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<v Speaker 1>am a cut the apple into pieces, person, and then

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<v Speaker 1>cut out the seeds in the stem and then eat

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<v Speaker 1>the entire edible part of the fruit. So I don't like.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds a little more normal.

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<v Speaker 1>It is. It's a little time intensive, but it means

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<v Speaker 1>I have knives around time next season, only it's that

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<v Speaker 1>lady who eats not apples with a knife. On we go,

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<v Speaker 1>On we Go.

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<v Speaker 2>So next week we will discuss the next episode. It

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<v Speaker 2>is number seven and it is called Valley of the dolls.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds promising.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, But before that, we'll see you back here tomorrow

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