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story several minutes into the show. First we do the

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just the Quick Lightning ram overview of the previous weekend.

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So in week eight we had in the Mountain West,

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and like the Mountain West has just been such a

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nothing burger this season, this past weekend we affirmed that

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j Norvel getting fired at Colorado State. So a Norvel

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did get fired, just wasn't Mike with Jay at Carlile State.

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Eighteen and twenty six and four seasons. Yes, that will

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get you fired. Will be interesting to see where the

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Rams go from here. Such an active coaching carousel. You know,

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at least we have at least ten jobs open, and

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it's the middle of the season. Where are we going

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to be at the end of the regular season, Like

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we could have close to twenty five jobs come open,

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and that means twenty five coaching positions switching hands. It's

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going to be absolutely crazy. So j norvel out at

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Colorado State and then undefeated UNLV undefeated no more. And

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the Rebels didn't just lose, they lost by twenty five.

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They give up fifty six points. You know, they gave

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up forty eight to air Force, So that kind of

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told you USC UNLV was begging for a loss. And

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was favored by I believe twelve points covered very easily

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in this game. So like UNLV was not an elite team.

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I think we all knew that. And now it's official.

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The Rebels have a loss. You have Boise State with

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two losses, Like the chances of the Mountain West having

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the Group of Five champion are virtually nil. It's gonna

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come from one of the top dogs in the American

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though it's notable that Memphis did stub its toe against UAB,

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taking a little bit of the luster out of that

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game against South Florida, and the loser of that game

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is almost surely out of the mix. At least it's

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going to be in pretty deep trouble, especially if it's Memphis,

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to re reinforce the point about UNLV, UNLV is not

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did manage to win the Mountain West championship, that that

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the American champion. Whichever team that eventually turns out to be.

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before next year's restructuring. So once again, the less set

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about the Mountain West, the better. Here on, get off

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they both won and Stanford over Florida State. Now, you know,

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double digit dog, and manages to beat Florida State outright,

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a lot of people who are watching that game that

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since Florida State went thirteen to zero in the regular

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season two years ago. Maybe it's that it could all

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just also just be the buyout math and Florida State

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needs time to find out find a restructuring plan. But

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four straight in the a SEC this season, and it's

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now eleven of twelve for Florida State in the ACC

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to see Florida State continue to be this bad. Stanford

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was there, Stanford was ready for the fight for sixty minutes.

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night on the farm in Palo Alto. You know, Frank

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Reich has Stanford playing hard, and those kids could have

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start of this season, has improved and has shown that

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you know, you got to take the Cardinal seriously, you

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got to. You gotta take the trees with with some respect,

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and Florida State didn't do that. Floria State gets an

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L so a very satisfying win for Stanford, and a

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lot of eyes were on that game because of Mike

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Morvel's hot seat, and Stanford did not shrink in the spotlight.

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The Cardinal continue to make this season not necessarily memorable,

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but like although Stanford players can say, you know what,

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we carried ourselves well with dignity, with pride. We kept

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fighting the whole way. You know, general manager Andrew Luck,

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who's gonna make a new coaching hire soon. He can

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say that, like the spirit of the players in the

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locker room, you know, has remained strong, and that's no

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small thing going forward. And Stanford might have a small

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core of players that can build around. There's obviously gonna

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be a lot of portal changes to this roster, but

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at least the culture seems to be in the right

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place for Stanford. Cal and North Carolina, Oh my goodness.

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If you watch that game late on Friday night, you

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saw one of the worst games of the year. This

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was absolutely atrocious football. You know, Cal almost lost to

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Bill Belichick's horribly coached North Carolina team at home. Cal's

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receivers are just an absolute disaster, and Jion kave Sagapolu

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like he needs a massive upgrade with his receivers. Now,

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this has been said, this has been written by a

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lot of people. I'm kind of coming in late to

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the party. I'm not going to deny that. Like I'm

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certainly not first in line to say this, so I'm

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not giving myself any credit. I don't deserve it. But

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just being able to see this game extensively, Cal dropped

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close to ten passes in this game. It was absolutely

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wild that Saca Polo tele kept putting throws, you know,

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on receivers hands. Now, were they always accurate? Were they

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always thrown in just the right spot with exactly the

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right touch? No, but there's still catches that should be made.

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it was the catch attempt, which was faulty more than

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the throw. And yet just clang clang, clink clank again

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and again and again. And so you know, if you're

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looking this from at this from a North Carolina point

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of view, you're saying, hey, the other side dropped close

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to ten passes and we still couldn't beat him. And

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it happened because North Carolina fumbles on the one yard

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line in the fourth quarter. Cal recovers, So the Bill

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Belichick nightmare continues. Cal's record is five and two, and

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you know, clinching Bowl eligibility would make this a good

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season for Cal. But boy, you look under the hood,

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Cal has won some really ugly ducklings and has benefited

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from its opponents being really bad. Like Cal is not

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playing good football. No one would say that Cal is

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playing good football. But Bill Belichick's North Carolina tar Hills

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have set the bar very low this season. They are

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one of the worst teams in the Power for Conferences

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in the United States. So CAL gets away with one,

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but hey, it's one step closer to Bowl eligibility. That's

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a good thing. But CAL really needs to be better

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over the course of this season. Like CAL has not

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really put its best foot forward this season, that really

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tells you something about the other teams CAL has played.

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the Big twelve and this now we had a lot

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of action here. BYU beats Utah in the Holy War,

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and I thought BYU was the better team coming into

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this game. And yeah, BYU was a three point five

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point underdog. So boy, if you if you had BYU

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plus three point five and on the money line, congratulations

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to you. You made a smart bet. The thing about

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this game is that you know, it's not as though

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BYU was dominating people. If you listen to previous editions

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of get off my Pilon, you know we talked about this.

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BYU scrambling late to beat Arizona, come from behind win

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in overtime. BYU scrambled in the second half to beat Colorado,

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was down fourteen to nothing early, but managed to rally

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like beat this BYU team is not dominant, you know,

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it's not an elite team, but it is persistent and

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you better be ready for sixty minutes against BYU. Utah's

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two best performances of this season, uh and we alluded

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to this last week came against a UCLA team that

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was coached by Deshaun Foster, you know, before the turnaround,

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under the interim staff tim skipper Jerry Neuheisel and defensive

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coordinator Kevin Coyle. And we'll obviously have more on UCLA

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in a little bit later in the show. But Utah

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got Ucla when the Bruins were horrible because Deshaun Foster's

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UCLA was absolutely horrible, as bad as it gets. And

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then Utah's other really good performance, it's other, you know,

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blowout win where everything rent went right and the Utes

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did everything well came against an Arizona State team that

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was missing Sam Levitt, and Arizona State without Sam Levitt

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no bueno, Like that team just can't tie at Shoelace

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as if Sam Levitt is not on the field. We'll

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have more on Sam Levitt just a bit so Utah's

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best games came against uniquely bad, uniquely weak opponents, and

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so that did not seem to set up Utah well

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for the trip to Provo and the rival game against

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it was all BYU down the stretch, and so it

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reinforces that you know what Kyle Whittingham, ever since Cam

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like Devin Dampier was the you know, new transfer portal

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quarterback who was you know, it was hoped in Salt

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Lake City that Devin Dampier would be the answer, that

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he would be able to get Utah back to the

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top tier of college football, you know, and do what

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Cam Rising had done. We're not seen it like that

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BYU game was a real test of where Dampier and

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the Utah offense are. You know that Utah offense was

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shut down by Texas Tech in a high profile game

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several weeks ago. So like this game against BYU was

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kind of the second chance failed against Texas Tech. Well,

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can you get it right? Can you bounce back against BYU?

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Clearly the answer is no with Devin Dampier. So Kyle Whittingham,

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who is a good coach, like he got Utah to

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two straight Rose Bowls, that's never going to change. It remained.

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It will always be a monumental feat Kyle Winningham is

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a good coach. But you know, if we take a

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forty thousand foot view of his long tenure at Utah

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when he didn't have the quarterback, we go back to

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Brian Johnson in two thousand and eight, that team which

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nine Sugar Bowl. If he didn't have Brian Johnson or

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Cam Rising at quarterback, he has really ruggle to develop

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the quarterback position to help out the defense. You know,

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sac of Lake City, the Utah has missed, it has

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whiffed so many times at the quarterback position. Uh. And

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it just it needed that special guy. And only when

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Utah has had that special guy has everything come together.

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Whittingham on that staff as an assistant, you know Alex

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when the Utes do not have their great quarterback. And

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that great quarterback seems to be only once every now

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and then. It's not an annual thing. Only when Utah

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has the great quarterback can the youtes fully max out.

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When they don't have the great quarterback, they look very ordinary.

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And that story continued against BYU. And as for BYU,

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Kalanie Sataki, like the past several years, he has been

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a better coach than Kyle Weddingham. Whittingham had the two

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back to back Rose Bowl seasons in twenty one and

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twenty two, but past few years it's been Sataki. He's

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had the upper hand in that rivalry. BYU has been

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the better program than Utah and that continued on Saturday.

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So BYU, you know, now at the top tier of

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the Big twelve for real, Like BYU is going to

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be in that race until the end. That seems pretty

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safe BYU, Texas Tech and also Cincinnati. And as we

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turn to our next really big Big twelve game Arizona

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State and Arizona State, without Sam Levitt mentioned it earlier,

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gets gets its doors blown off by Utah as which

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seemed pretty predictable because that's a hollowed out team. It

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has no leg to stand on without Levitt. So Levitt

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comes back and it's not as though he played a

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great game against Texas Tech. This was a defense first, fistfight,

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and you know Arizona State, Arizona State's defense was amazing

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in this game. And you know, if you followed the

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Big Twelve closely and you followed kind of the the

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bigger games in this conference, and you were looking at

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Texas Tech Arizona State and sizing up this matchup before

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kickoff in TMP on Saturday, you knew that Arizona State's

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injury reported red light. You know, the Declaration of Independence,

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Like this was a long, long list of players who

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are injured. It was, it was easily over a dozen players.

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You know, Texas Tech had some guys out, and you

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know Baron Morton, the quarterback, being out definitely had an

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impact on this game. But like, it's not as though

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Texas Tech can complain about injuries. Ariona State had this

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extremely lengthy injury report. Having Levitt, though, really mattered, and

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you compare that to Texas Tech not having Baron Morton.

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That was obviously important, but still ASU's depth was really hard,

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followed out a lot of starters, missing, a lot of

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bodies in the infirmary, and so for Arizona State to

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be this shorthanded at having to plug in this many players,

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backup players at so many positions in terms of the

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All twenty two offense and defense, and to find a

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way to overtake Texas Tech. And you know, Texas Tech

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scrambled late to take the lead. Arizona State could have wilted.

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No Sun Devils come back. They have the answer. They

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score at the very end and they beat Texas Tech.

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And so massive win for Kenny Dillingham for all the

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obvious reasons, right, Like Arizona State won the Big Twelve

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last season, so you're obviously expecting to take everyone's best

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punch in the conference this season. You don't have Cam Scataboo,

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and he continues to crush it in the NFL with

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the New York Giants, so you know how valuable he

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was this Arizona State team. It's not as good as

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last year. That's to be expected by like Arizona State

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is certainly staying in the ring, and Arizona State continues

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to win close games. Has won at least three Big

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Twelve games by you know, under five points, won a

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couple of twenty seven to twenty four games against Baylor

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and TCU. Now this four point win over Texas Tech. Like,

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even if Arizona State doesn't win the Big Twelve this season,

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like the Sun Devils have shown a measure of staying power.

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They've shown a considerable degree of resilience. You know, they

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beat BYU at home last season in a really important

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conference game. They now beat a Texas Tech team that

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came in in this game unbeaten and you know, the

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favorite to win the conference. So like Kenny Dillingham, if

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people were worried that he had lost his fastball, he

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showed at least against Texas Tech. No, he still has it.

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And this Arizona State program is not cratering. It's not

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falling off the map. They're you know, the injuries have

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played a part, the loss of Skataboo has played a part.

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So it's not this is not the very very best

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Arizona State can be. But Arizona State is still I

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would say, you know, achieving results which reflect a program

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that is steadily good, is staying in contention in the

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Big Twelve and is poised to remain relevant long term.

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And if you followed Arizona State football in the history

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of this program, you'll realize that's been the challenge that

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Arizona State does come up with really good seasons once

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every several years. You know. That was the Todd Graham

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team which made the Pac twelve Championship game in twenty thirteen.

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There was the Dennis Ericson team in two thousand and seven,

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which many people thought should have gotten a BCS all bid,

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but lost out to Ron Zook's Illinois team in that competition.

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There was the Jake Plumber team which finished, you know,

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the regular season number two very nearly won the nation

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for championship. Ohio State beats Arizona State in the final

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minute of the nineteen ninety seven Rose Bowl. So that

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was one of the great ASU teams of all time.

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But you know, great seasons have existed on an island,

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and so ASU would do something really special one year,

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but then it would all fizzle out the next five seasons.

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So the challenge for ASU is maintaining that consistent relevance,

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consistent quality what we're seeing this year. You know, again,

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ASU might not have the trophies this year that it

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did last year, but Kenny Dillingham, with his resourcefulness, is

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showing that. You know, if he sticks around, and I

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think you will that Arizona State's going to remain a

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major player in the Big Twelve. That's really the value

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of the win over Texas Tech. Obviously, the Red Raiders,

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they're still in the hunt, and if Baron Morton comes

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back healthy, they're probably still the team to beat in

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the conference with their defense. But you know, b YU

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and Cincinnati, Cincinnati a real surprise under coach Scott Sadderfield

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who's no longer in the hot seat there. And BYU

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coming off the win over Utah. Uh, it's pretty clear

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that Texas Tech, BYU, Cincinnati, and I would add Arizona State.

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That's those are probably the four teams most centrally in

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the Big Twelve title race. You could add a few

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others as well, but those four teams, like in mid November,

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we're going to be talking about at least three of them,

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if not all four, as frontline contenders for the Big

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Twelve championship. All right, Now we go to the Big

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Ten and you know, Oregon crushed Rutgers. Not a whole

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lot to say, they're not like, nothing really newsworthy from

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that one. UCLA over Maryland. Now, this was an interesting

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game in that you know utile is able to win.

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But this wasn't the offensive joy ride that we had

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seen the previous two weeks. Previous two weeks, UCLA had

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a twenty seven to seven first half lead over a

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shell shocked opponent. Ucl just steamrolled in the first half

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and was able to consistently do what it wanted on

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offense throughout the game. This was not that UCLA trailed

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Maryland ten to seven in the fourth quarter, Nico Iamaliaba

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throws a pick six like this was a nightmare for

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the UCLA offense in the first three and a half quarters,

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but the defense kept the Bruins in the game. So

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Jerry Newhisl, the offensive coordinator, has been getting the pub

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over the past few weeks, and rightly so he earned it.

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He deserves it. But this was the game for Kevin Coyle,

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the new UCLA defensive coordinator who replaced Ikaka Malow in

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that position earlier in the season. And so Kevin Coyle

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now has his moment. So Jerry new Heisel really was

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the star of the show. But now it's Kevin Coyle

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who has a star turn. So it really tells you

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how good Tim Skipper, the head coach has been not

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only in selecting his new coordinators, but you know, part

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of the job of a head coach is coaching your coaches,

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making sure that the quality control is good in every department.

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And so Jerry new Heisel was was the star previously.

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But we're showing that Tim Skipper can field a really

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good UCLA defense and that he and Kevin Coyle have

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a really good relationship as well. And so you know,

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UCLA's defense has held each of its last two opponents

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under eighteen points, Maryland to seventeen and Michigan State the

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week before to thirteen. So you know, Marylyn and Michigan

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State aren't very good. And that's part of the conversation

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with UCLA because obviously the Bruins now go up weight class.

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They go to Indiana this coming week. More on that

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game in a bit. But even though you can say

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that Maryland and Michigan State are highly flawed and fundamentally mediocre,

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if not bad teams, nevertheless, this UCLA defense did not

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look very good at all in the first month five

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weeks of the season. Are we really seeing a defense

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that is emerging? Are we seeing a defense that is

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not only not terrible but might actually be somewhat good.

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I mean, you have to at least ask the question.

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I'm not fully convinced, but you do have to at

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least ask the question. Is this now a good defense? Like,

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you know, more good than bad? Is it not just

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a matter of shutting down weak and flawed opponents? But no,

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this is actually a good defense on its own terms.

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You at least have to entertain the question. But Indiana

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is going to be the revealer of that. We can

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we can, we can agree on that point. That Indiana

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and then a few weeks later Ohio State, they will

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reveal the true measure of where Ucle's defense stands. But

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at least for now, UCLA being able to win a

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rock fight against Maryland, a very low scoring game. You know,

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if you had told me ut is going to score

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just twenty, I would have said, is losing US is

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losing this game. I mean, uc can't score twenty and win.

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This team is not built to win that way. Kevin

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Coyle's UCLA defense had a real surprise for a lot

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of people. Uh, and that was it was just really

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impressive how the UCLA offense struggled and struggled and struggled

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VA with multiple turnovers. He had a bad game. Uti

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could not finish drives. Uh. It was a very frustrating

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night for this offense which just couldn't get out of

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its own way. And you know, Ustilia had begun to

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expect this offense to thrive. It would have been easy

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for the team to sag its shoulders and really just

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you know, lose faith in the larger collective effort. It

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would have been easy to say, well, this is just

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not our night. Things aren't going our way. But that

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defense kept getting one stop after another, and then Iamaliaba

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finally able to throw a touchdown pass for the lead

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in the fourth quarter. Ustilla then gets an interception, tacks

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on a field goal, gets a seven point lead, and then,

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you know, unexpectedly, the UCLA defense, which had been doing

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the heavy lifting all game when it gets that seven

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point lead at the two minute warning at the end

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of the fourth quarter, finally lets down its guard. Maryland

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quarterback Malik Washington gets loose for a long scramble. It

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sets up a time touchdown. So this defense, which carried

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the load for this team through the first fifty eight minutes,

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finally slips in the final two minutes. But UCLA gets

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the ball back with close to forty seconds left, and

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that was enough to drive down the field. Anthony Fries

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a running back who had kind of been under the radar.

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He had a fifty five yard touchdown run early in

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this game. He gets another long run late. It sets

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up a chip shot field goal with two seconds left.

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And this UCLA team wins three in a row. And

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it's not just the winning, And what really impresses observers

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about any sports team is that you can win in

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different ways, and you can win in the mud. You

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can win when it's really a grind, when it's difficult,

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when it's hard, and UCLA showed that. So it's not

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just the tactics which have been so much better for

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UCLA offense, defense, and special teams under head coach Tim Skipper.

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He's also created a culture of toughness, like this is

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a truly resilient group. The belief remains intact. The team

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doesn't get up a total one eighty from the absolute

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no shows under Deshaun Foster. The team just quit, did

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not you know, finish plays. We got absolutely demolished on

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both sides of the line at scrimmage. No heart, no fight,

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and it has just been a total one eighty and

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it continues in many different ways under Tim Skipper. And

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now we go to this Indiana game where all right,

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Ucla now plays a heavyweight. No more Maryland, no more

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Michigan State. Penn State came in at number seven when

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it played Ucla, but like this, this was an ordinary

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Penn State team just in terms of how piece is fit,

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in terms of how poorly it was coached by James Franklin, Well,

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Indiana is none of that. The pieces do fit. You

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have an elite coach at the top of his game,

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Kurt Signetti. It's gonna be a Fox big noon Saturday game,

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so publicity an extra spotlight for UCLA football. People are

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going to be talking about Tim Skipper, They're going to

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be talking about Jerry Newheisel is going to be talking

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about Nico Iomliava. Here's a center stage moment. Let's see

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what UCLA can do. And I would say, just in general,

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no one's expecting UCLA to win, and Indiana's favored by

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00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,759
close to twenty four points. But if the Bruins just

475
00:29:21,039 --> 00:29:23,680
make it a fight and they make Indiana really work

476
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,440
hard to earn this win, that would certainly move the

477
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,440
needle in the direction of you know, hey, Tim Skipper,

478
00:29:30,559 --> 00:29:34,400
Jerry Newheiseel, Kevin Coyle, they should be retained by UCLA.

479
00:29:34,799 --> 00:29:37,599
So this in many ways, like the audition for the

480
00:29:37,839 --> 00:29:40,319
UCLA head coaching job is already underway, but like this

481
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,759
is now the really big test, as well as the

482
00:29:42,759 --> 00:29:46,200
Ohio State game two weeks later. These two games they're

483
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:52,400
gonna determine. Really I would imagine what UCLA ultimately chooses

484
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,559
to do. If Skipper and his staff can do a

485
00:29:55,599 --> 00:29:59,200
really good job against Indiana and Ohio State, that might

486
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:03,880
earn them retail as permanent head coaches. Will be fascinating

487
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:08,440
to see what happens with UCLA next. On our Big

488
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,920
ten West Coast Review and here on, get off my pilm.

489
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,359
The Washington Huskies, and you know, Jedfish has been mentioned

490
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,880
with the UCLA job. He's also been mentioned with the

491
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:21,839
Florida job after Billy Napier got fired. Well, it's really

492
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:26,319
hard to trust Jedfish right now, given that the Huskies

493
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,400
were dog walked by Michigan. And we talked about USC

494
00:30:30,599 --> 00:30:34,480
versus Michigan a week ago and I said Michigan's not

495
00:30:34,519 --> 00:30:37,279
that good. I stand by that Michigan is not an

496
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:42,200
especially good team. That offense is not consistent, that offense

497
00:30:42,319 --> 00:30:46,200
is not especially potent. Wide receivers aren't very good. Brice

498
00:30:46,279 --> 00:30:49,960
Underwood is a multi year project as opposed to a

499
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:54,519
finished product. And you know, most of that game, both

500
00:30:54,599 --> 00:30:58,720
teams were struggling. Both teams were squandering scoring chances, both

501
00:30:58,759 --> 00:31:01,880
teams were stepping on a race. And the game turns

502
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:06,279
around because Washington throws an interception deep in its own

503
00:31:06,359 --> 00:31:10,200
territory and that just creates a snowball effect which enables

504
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,720
Michigan to break open a close game on the third

505
00:31:12,799 --> 00:31:15,480
quarter and pull away for a win. That was you know,

506
00:31:15,519 --> 00:31:18,519
it was comfortable in the end, but middle of the

507
00:31:18,519 --> 00:31:22,079
third quarter like this was a toss up. And it

508
00:31:22,119 --> 00:31:24,440
was a toss up not because both teams were playing great.

509
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,200
It's because both teams were playing poorly. It's a lot

510
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,839
like a tennis match. You know, neither player has a

511
00:31:30,839 --> 00:31:33,640
good return of serve, so both players are just you know,

512
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:39,240
holding serve all the time, like the opponents might have

513
00:31:39,799 --> 00:31:41,599
might have had a chance to break serve, but no,

514
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,240
his return is crap. And that's why a match goes

515
00:31:45,279 --> 00:31:49,240
on and on and on, and it goes into five sets,

516
00:31:49,279 --> 00:31:53,720
just no one can really establish any quality to separate himself.

517
00:31:53,759 --> 00:31:56,960
That's what Michigan Washington was for the first two and

518
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,559
a half quarters. And it didn't turn based on Michigan

519
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:05,359
being excellent. It turned on Washington being bad and Washington

520
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,759
making the big blunders to turn that game negatively, you know,

521
00:32:09,839 --> 00:32:13,559
against the Huskies. And so you have a reality with

522
00:32:13,799 --> 00:32:18,559
Washington here. You know, Washington showed you know, some spunk

523
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,079
and some backbone and that comeback at Maryland a few

524
00:32:22,119 --> 00:32:25,920
weeks ago. But like Maryland's blown fourth quarter leads three

525
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,440
straight weeks, I think that's more of a commentary on

526
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:34,440
Maryland than Washington. Washington scoring twenty one points in the

527
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:38,039
fourth quarter on the road to win a game it

528
00:32:38,119 --> 00:32:41,519
trailed twenty to three. I think that says more about

529
00:32:41,519 --> 00:32:45,759
Maryland than Washington. And that Washington offense was shut down

530
00:32:45,799 --> 00:32:48,559
for the first three quarters of that game before the

531
00:32:48,559 --> 00:32:52,240
fourth quarter explosion. And now you have Washington, you know,

532
00:32:52,319 --> 00:32:55,480
getting shut down once again by Michigan. And let's remember

533
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,839
that Michigan, Washington got shut down by how State. Washington

534
00:33:00,559 --> 00:33:04,880
against Michigan Ohio State just absolutely smothered on offense. Has

535
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,839
brought nothing to the table, scored three points in three

536
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:12,319
quarters against Maryland. Like, this offense has been consistently below average,

537
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,440
and Jedfish is supposed to be an offense first guy.

538
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,519
He's supposed to be a quarterback developer. If you're Florida

539
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,000
and if you're you Cla, are you really all that

540
00:33:22,119 --> 00:33:26,279
impressed with Jedfish? You know, Let's keep in mind, Washington

541
00:33:26,359 --> 00:33:29,559
got taken to the top of college football national runner

542
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,279
up two seasons ago with Kaitlin de Boord, you know,

543
00:33:32,359 --> 00:33:35,559
working with Michael Pennix, took the Huskies to the pinnacle.

544
00:33:36,359 --> 00:33:38,920
And so you know, when Jedfish came in, like one

545
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:43,279
of his most important tasks was maintain the standard of

546
00:33:43,359 --> 00:33:47,200
quarterback play on Montlake. He has clearly failed to do

547
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,119
that last year with Will Rogers, now this year with

548
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:55,279
Demond Williams. Like this is supposed to be Jedfish's specialty offense,

549
00:33:55,559 --> 00:33:59,200
quarterback play, the passing game. None of that's coming up,

550
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,359
None of that's a none of that, none of that

551
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,319
is rising to the surface as a strength of this

552
00:34:04,599 --> 00:34:08,400
Washington team. So that is ample cause for concern. And

553
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,280
as we turn the page two Week nine coming up

554
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,519
this weekend, Washington hosts Illinois. It's another big game, It's

555
00:34:15,559 --> 00:34:18,920
another major test of the Huskies. I think you have

556
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,519
to lean to Illinois in this game. Like Luke Altmeyer

557
00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:26,159
and the Aliani. You know, they got their doors blown

558
00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:29,199
off by Indiana and they also got handled by Ohio State.

559
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,119
But you know, Indiana, Ohio State, they're the top two

560
00:34:32,119 --> 00:34:34,719
teams in the Big Ten and the top two teams

561
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,960
in the national rankings with Miami losing and falling out

562
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,239
of the top three. So you know, Illinois did beat

563
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,800
USC and Illinois has you know, shown some quality and

564
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,159
its other games this season. You know, a road win

565
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:53,559
over Duke also looks pretty good right now. So you know,

566
00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:56,360
Illinois has shown me a lot more than Washington has,

567
00:34:56,559 --> 00:35:00,239
and so it's less about Washington the full team. That's

568
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,840
a decent defense. You know, Washington's defense is not getting

569
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,480
blown off the field in any game it plays. It

570
00:35:05,519 --> 00:35:08,960
actually held Ohio State, and Julian's saying to just twenty

571
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:14,480
four points, that's pretty respectable. This Washington offense needs to

572
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,480
step up like it's now or never. This Illinois game

573
00:35:17,559 --> 00:35:19,920
is a now or never moment for the Washington offense

574
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,960
and for Jetfish, Like you got to produce. It's time.

575
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,079
It's late October. You have fooled around for the better

576
00:35:27,079 --> 00:35:29,519
part of two months. You now need to help your

577
00:35:29,519 --> 00:35:34,360
teammates on defense and get it done. And so it's

578
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,800
a home game, it's in Seattle. This is a massively

579
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,039
important game for Washington. And you know, whether or not

580
00:35:42,039 --> 00:35:45,880
the Huskies make the playoffs, they're unlikely to do so, Like,

581
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,480
this is a pride game, and this is like, hey,

582
00:35:48,559 --> 00:35:50,320
you know what, we might not be the best team

583
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,519
in the Big Ten, but like we deserve to be

584
00:35:52,559 --> 00:35:55,400
in that top tier. We deserve to be in that conversation,

585
00:35:56,519 --> 00:36:00,000
it's very important for Washington to win this game because

586
00:36:00,559 --> 00:36:03,519
if not, where does Jedfish turn to and how can

587
00:36:03,519 --> 00:36:08,119
he convince himself and the other people in the program

588
00:36:08,599 --> 00:36:11,039
that Washington is heading in the right direction of Washington

589
00:36:11,039 --> 00:36:14,639
loses this game to Illinois, it's a real mess. It's

590
00:36:14,679 --> 00:36:16,440
a real mess for the Huskies and they will enter

591
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,719
twenty twenty six without a whole lot of confidence that

592
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,840
they can become a top tier program in the Big Ten.

593
00:36:25,519 --> 00:36:28,960
All Right, last, but certainly not least, the featured story

594
00:36:29,159 --> 00:36:32,159
you know of Western teams in the United States USC

595
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,199
because US he was playing Notre Dame. And we don't

596
00:36:35,199 --> 00:36:38,599
know about the future of this rivalry, but USC Notre

597
00:36:38,679 --> 00:36:41,320
Dame prime time under the lights in South Bend took

598
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:46,960
center stage. And as someone who covers USC regularly, you

599
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,280
know that I'm at Trodan's wire. I think what just

600
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,440
the immediate thought about this game, more than you know

601
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:59,000
that dumb trick play which failed, is that, you know,

602
00:36:59,519 --> 00:37:03,360
USC just always seems to lose in this fashion. And

603
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,000
when I say in this fashion, like you can always

604
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,280
count on a Lincoln Riley USC team when it plays

605
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,480
a big road game against a good opponent, you can

606
00:37:12,519 --> 00:37:17,840
always count on these things happening. Turnovers, really bad mistakes,

607
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:23,639
generally soft play and Lincoln Riley getting too cute with

608
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:28,079
his play calling. Like those things seem to happen in

609
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:33,480
every important moment for Lincoln Riley on the road as

610
00:37:33,519 --> 00:37:36,800
a as a as the USC head coach. You know

611
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:42,280
USC's offensive line got blown out a year ago at Michigan.

612
00:37:42,519 --> 00:37:47,159
You know the Trojans were soft. Other really big road

613
00:37:47,199 --> 00:37:50,599
games this team is played, you know, like the defensive

614
00:37:50,599 --> 00:37:54,039
line just can't do anything. You think of the road

615
00:37:54,119 --> 00:37:57,760
loss to Utah in twenty twenty two. You know, the

616
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:02,440
defense gives up forty three points. I mean, every big

617
00:38:02,559 --> 00:38:07,519
road game under Lincoln Riley at USC just goes in

618
00:38:07,599 --> 00:38:13,039
the wrong direction. And the common threads, the points of commonality,

619
00:38:13,199 --> 00:38:17,400
they're they're in the mix nearly all the time. And

620
00:38:17,519 --> 00:38:21,119
when USC went to Notre Dame two years ago, offensive

621
00:38:21,159 --> 00:38:24,840
line got absolutely trampled. Kaylev Williams had no chance through

622
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,280
a bunch of picks. You know, it's it's pretty much

623
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:33,559
always that same general collection of qualities. So in this game,

624
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,800
Notre Dame was without its starting center. He got injured recently.

625
00:38:38,039 --> 00:38:41,440
This was the first game with the backup center, so

626
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,360
like it's not as though he had time. The backup

627
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,320
center had time to ease his way into the rotation

628
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,920
and get a rhythm. Note this was the backup center's

629
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:53,440
first game as the starter for Notre Dame this season.

630
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,800
All right, that's point number one, Point number two. CJ. Carr,

631
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,960
Notre Dame quarterback didn't play well. Like he was inaccurate

632
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,239
the running the running game, you know, making plays with

633
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,880
his legs. That was not an element. Like he was

634
00:39:06,039 --> 00:39:08,760
just off. It was an off night for him. He's

635
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,719
been really good this season, but in this game he

636
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,599
was off. Notre Dame missed a field goal. Notre Dame

637
00:39:15,639 --> 00:39:19,559
committed a lot of pass interference penalties Notre Dame. Notre

638
00:39:19,639 --> 00:39:22,920
Dame could not cover Jacoby Lane. Now, Leonard Moore of

639
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,599
Notre Dame locked up McKayle lemon and that was a

640
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,559
very big and positive development for Notre Dame in this game.

641
00:39:29,559 --> 00:39:31,840
But the other side of the field, the other matchup,

642
00:39:32,079 --> 00:39:36,519
Jacobe Lane was too big, too tall, too strong for

643
00:39:36,599 --> 00:39:39,960
his matchup in the Notre Dame secondary and so you know,

644
00:39:40,039 --> 00:39:42,679
he kept getting open and when he wasn't open, it

645
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:47,679
was because Notre Dame was committing pass interference penalties. Notre

646
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,960
Dame was also missing one of its important defensive linemen,

647
00:39:51,119 --> 00:39:56,199
Gabriel Rubio. He was out in this game, so that,

648
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,440
you know, should have improved the matchup for USC. And

649
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:03,639
you know, and in truth, USC's offensive line was not great.

650
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,639
You know, it wasn't able to hammer an order names

651
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,119
defensive line in the ground game. But the pass protection

652
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,599
was fine. Jade and Mayava had a clean pocket for

653
00:40:12,679 --> 00:40:15,280
the vast majority of the night. He got pressured a

654
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,840
few times, but he was able to sit back and

655
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:22,320
throw the vast majority of the time. So many things

656
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,679
for USC should have worked really well in this game,

657
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,079
and at times they did, but then USC was not

658
00:40:29,159 --> 00:40:32,239
able to finish drives bogged down in the red zone

659
00:40:33,079 --> 00:40:36,599
zero of two on fourth downs, and what you saw

660
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:40,400
on those plays in the red zone and on fourth

661
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,559
down was one way or another, USC just making a

662
00:40:43,599 --> 00:40:47,320
really bad mistake or Lincoln Riley getting cute with a

663
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:51,119
play call. You know, Lincoln Riley, he likes to stretch

664
00:40:51,199 --> 00:40:55,880
defenses horizontally. He likes to make defenders cover the full

665
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,239
width of the field so that then he can go

666
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:02,239
vertically up the middle down the scene between the tackles.

667
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:07,280
But this was a game where just one reality was

668
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,480
very clear, they can't cover Jacoby Lane. So instead of

669
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,880
trying to do a run pass option or a fake

670
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,360
handoff and throw a flat pass to the tight end,

671
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,440
this was a game where Lincoln Riley needed to keep

672
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,559
it simple. Just have Jade Mayava drop back five or

673
00:41:22,599 --> 00:41:26,320
seven steps, throw it to Jacoby Lane, get your first down.

674
00:41:27,079 --> 00:41:29,480
It didn't need to be more complicated than that. But

675
00:41:29,559 --> 00:41:31,679
he did the funky stuff with the with the read

676
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,960
options and the and the throws to the tight end

677
00:41:35,199 --> 00:41:39,760
and trying to get you know, using fakes and play

678
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,239
action and sleight of hand and trying to get an

679
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,960
Notre Dame off balance. This was just not a game

680
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:49,679
for that. Notre Dame made good reactions and reads going

681
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:54,360
side to side. This was just about step settling down

682
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,679
in the pocket for my ava and throwing the ball

683
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,800
to Jacoby Lane because Notre Dame did not have an

684
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,320
for him And as much as the ball was thrown

685
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,360
to Lane us, he didn't really throw the ball to

686
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:10,800
him enough. And yeah, ironically, in the first half, Lane

687
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,159
drops a touchdown pass. He also drops another red zone pass,

688
00:42:14,199 --> 00:42:16,840
so like he made some crucial mistakes. So he did

689
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,760
a tone for them with his touchdown and two point

690
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,760
conversion to take the lead. But you know, if Jacobe

691
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,280
Lane makes catches in the first half, USC is not

692
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,239
up twenty four to twenty one, it might be up

693
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:32,639
thirty one twenty one. As the game continued and both

694
00:42:32,679 --> 00:42:35,920
teams left a lot of points on the field, both

695
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:41,400
teams squandered red zone trips, trips into scoring range you know,

696
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,360
inside the other the opponent's thirty five. Like, this was

697
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,920
not Notre Dame's best game. This was not Notre Dame's

698
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,079
best team under Marcus Freeman. Clearly, like you can see

699
00:42:53,119 --> 00:42:55,960
why Notre Dame lost those two games early in the season.

700
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,599
This was not a heavyweight bout. This was more like

701
00:42:59,639 --> 00:43:04,360
a middle wait fight with two flawed teams that were

702
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,960
leaving points on the field. They traded a number of mistakes.

703
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,480
I mean, midway through the third quarter, if you were

704
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,519
a fan of either team, you're you're just thinking, gosh,

705
00:43:14,599 --> 00:43:17,559
we're gonna regret all the mistakes that we made in

706
00:43:17,599 --> 00:43:22,880
this game. And from that point midway through the third quarter,

707
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,679
it was USC that made far more mistakes. In the

708
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,679
final fifteen to twenty minutes down the stretch, it was

709
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,400
USC making the mistakes. Notre Dame, you know, wasn't one

710
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:37,440
hundred percent spotless, but certainly made far fewer mistakes than USC.

711
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,360
Jade Mayava, who is excellent in the first half, and

712
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,599
this is a parallel to the Illinois game a couple

713
00:43:43,639 --> 00:43:46,360
of weeks ago. Mayava excellent in the first half, but

714
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,800
in the third quarter, for whatever reason, you know, he

715
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:53,920
finally lost his edge, makes a couple of mistakes. And

716
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:58,599
once again, because USC's defense was not able to rise

717
00:43:58,599 --> 00:44:01,719
to the moment. If the offense is leading points on

718
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,559
the field, it's hard to expect USC to win. This

719
00:44:04,679 --> 00:44:08,280
offense has to be very close to perfect, and if

720
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,000
it's not, the defense is not there to back them up.

721
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,760
And I mentioned that CJ. Carr had an off night.

722
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,039
You would think that USC's defensive line would be good

723
00:44:18,119 --> 00:44:21,920
enough to contain the Notre Dame ground game, not smother them,

724
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,679
but certainly not give up over three hundred yards. And

725
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,960
yet that's what happened. Notre Dame rushes for over three

726
00:44:28,039 --> 00:44:32,679
hundred yards. Notably, Notre Dame ran the ball on third

727
00:44:32,679 --> 00:44:36,880
and seven and later on a third and eight and

728
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,320
was able to convert, was able to get first downs

729
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:44,159
in third and long situations multiple times with the ground game.

730
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:48,519
That's just an embarrassment for USC. It's an embarrassing performance

731
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:53,440
and it points to Lincoln Riley once again his USC teams.

732
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:58,119
They come up soft in big road games against good opponents.

733
00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:05,559
It's it's impossible to avoid this particular big picture note

734
00:45:06,119 --> 00:45:09,320
about Lincoln Riley that he and Brian Kelly are basically

735
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:13,519
living parallel lives at this point. They both are several

736
00:45:13,559 --> 00:45:17,840
games under five hundred against ranked teams. You know, they

737
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,960
both have gotten into the College Football Playoff a couple times,

738
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:25,320
but not with their current employers USC and LSU. You know,

739
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,280
Kelly did it with More Dame Riley did it with Oklahoma,

740
00:45:28,679 --> 00:45:32,800
but neither one ever won a playoff semi final when

741
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:38,039
they did make the playoff, and they are both currently

742
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:42,039
loathed by their fan bases. USC fans definitely want Lincoln

743
00:45:42,119 --> 00:45:46,920
Riley out, I can't blame them. LSU fans really want

744
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,719
Brian Kelly out, and I can't blame them for that.

745
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,719
Like they've they're both in their fourth seasons at their

746
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,880
current schools and no playoff appearances. And it's that playoff

747
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,679
drought is going to continue this year barring something improbable

748
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,559
for both teams. I mean, they both have to win

749
00:46:03,599 --> 00:46:08,360
out and maybe also get help as well. Like the

750
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,440
chances are ninety eight ninety nine percent that both USC

751
00:46:11,639 --> 00:46:15,079
and LSU will miss the playoffs this year. So you know,

752
00:46:15,199 --> 00:46:17,159
you're not paid to be nine and three, you're not

753
00:46:17,199 --> 00:46:20,119
paid to be eight and four. And yet Lincoln Riley

754
00:46:20,119 --> 00:46:23,079
and Brian Kelly, who were hired, you know, a day

755
00:46:23,119 --> 00:46:26,920
apart in November of twenty twenty one, and they both

756
00:46:27,119 --> 00:46:30,880
left Cadillac jobs to go to other places. It's something

757
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,880
that's very rarely happened in the history of college football,

758
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:39,599
Riley leaving Oklahoma for USC, Kelly leaving Notre Dame for LSU.

759
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,400
Like who leaves Oklahoma? Who leaves Notre Dame when you're

760
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:47,639
doing well there, as both men were, But they did,

761
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,719
and you know, so USC fans as well as LSU

762
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:55,800
fans had a right to expect big things this decade,

763
00:46:56,079 --> 00:46:58,559
and it just hasn't happened in either place. And so

764
00:46:58,639 --> 00:47:02,719
you have KELLYLSU losing to Vanderbilt and then Riley and

765
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:06,159
USC losing to Notre Dame on the same day. And

766
00:47:06,199 --> 00:47:09,480
so these two coaches hired one day apart four years ago.

767
00:47:10,079 --> 00:47:13,039
Here we are. They both seem to kind of flame

768
00:47:13,039 --> 00:47:15,079
out on the same day. Like this felt like a

769
00:47:15,599 --> 00:47:19,039
final nail in the coffin for each coach. Now will

770
00:47:19,079 --> 00:47:24,239
they be fired? Riley's not getting fired at USC. You know,

771
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,159
I do have more proximity to that program than I

772
00:47:27,199 --> 00:47:31,119
do to LSU. And you have that twenty twenty six

773
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:35,199
top ranked recruiting class. US He's gonna give Riley the

774
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,199
twenty twenty six season because you know, you just have

775
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,159
some high end groceries coming in and so you're gonna

776
00:47:41,199 --> 00:47:44,519
get They're gonna give the school's gonna give Lincoln Riley

777
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,880
the chance to coach up that twenty twenty six recruiting

778
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,400
class LSU. I don't know, but I know that if

779
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,159
I was in Baton Rouge, I'd say, you know what

780
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:58,119
Brian Kelly like, we never liked you. And I'm when

781
00:47:58,159 --> 00:48:00,199
I say we, I mean the LSU fan base. I'm

782
00:48:00,199 --> 00:48:05,559
not really talking about administrators, but LSU fans hate Brian Kelly.

783
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,760
They didn't like it when he coached their team. The

784
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,760
only way they were gonna like Brian Kelly is if

785
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,960
he won big, and he hasn't. So I think LSU

786
00:48:13,079 --> 00:48:17,440
fans just the fan base has reached its limit with

787
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,039
Brian Kelly. They would love to see him go. And

788
00:48:20,079 --> 00:48:24,280
whether LSU administrators see things the same way, I'm not

789
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,440
so sure. But in many ways it felt like, you know,

790
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:31,239
I've had enough of this. USC fans with Lincoln Riley,

791
00:48:31,599 --> 00:48:35,079
LSU fans with Brian Kelly. It seems like a pretty

792
00:48:35,599 --> 00:48:40,239
widespread shared sentiment in each of those two locations, and

793
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,559
so it's really striking how Lincoln Riley and Brian Kelly

794
00:48:44,159 --> 00:48:48,280
have similar careers and similar trajectories on a lot of

795
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:54,719
levels at USC and LSU. USC season in tatters. The

796
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,880
only way USC can salvage the season is by winning out.

797
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,679
But winning out means having to go to Oregon in November.

798
00:49:02,199 --> 00:49:04,159
Good luck with that one. I'm certainly not going to

799
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:08,480
take USC in that game. So us see another failed

800
00:49:08,519 --> 00:49:12,360
season almost certainly under Lincoln Riley. That's part of the

801
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:16,079
picture for the Trojans. So you know, looking ahead to

802
00:49:16,119 --> 00:49:19,559
Week nine, UCLA at Indiana is going to be a

803
00:49:19,599 --> 00:49:21,079
game a lot of people are going to be paying

804
00:49:21,119 --> 00:49:23,079
attention to. And it's not just because it's a Fox

805
00:49:23,119 --> 00:49:27,039
Big noon Saturday game, but because you have Kurt Signetti,

806
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:31,599
the wonder worker of college football, guy who's just transcended

807
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:36,760
everyone's expectations by many, many miles, up against this interim

808
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:41,920
UCLA coaching staff that's worked wonders. But now the quality

809
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,320
of competition really rises for UCLA. It's going to be

810
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:49,519
fascinating to see what Tim Skipper, Jerry Neuheisel and Kevin

811
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:54,280
Coyle can do against the great Signetti and an Indiana

812
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,360
team which is number two in the country. So UCLA

813
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:01,000
is going to face number two Indiana and in number

814
00:50:01,039 --> 00:50:04,880
one Ohio State in the next three weeks. We're gonna

815
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:09,880
get the measure of this UCLA team. The Big Twelve

816
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,840
race continues and Arizona State has stayed in contention with

817
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,960
that upset of Texas Tech BYU at the top of

818
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,360
the standings with with a great shot to make the

819
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,960
Big Twelve championship game. So that's going to be really

820
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:29,239
fun to watch. Oh I missed this in my roundup,

821
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,320
so let's just make sure we touch on this before

822
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:35,239
we go. Washington State had Virginia, was leading twenty to

823
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,960
ten on the road at Virginia in the fourth quarter,

824
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,519
the Cavaliers scored twelve points and the game winning play

825
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,880
was a tie breaking safety. That game was twenty to

826
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,599
twenty in the fourth quarter and Virginia wins it on

827
00:50:47,679 --> 00:50:50,760
a safety. So a brutal loss for Washington State. But

828
00:50:51,199 --> 00:50:55,119
if you've noticed, Washington State lost to Ole Miss on

829
00:50:55,159 --> 00:50:58,960
the road by three points. Loses to a ranked Virginia

830
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,039
team on the road by two points. This team was

831
00:51:02,159 --> 00:51:05,400
horrible earlier in the season, losing by forty nine in

832
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:09,920
North Texas. So quietly Washington State has improved. The wins

833
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:14,159
aren't coming, but the performance is Washington State might actually

834
00:51:14,199 --> 00:51:17,639
be really good next season. The Cougars have made dramatic

835
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,679
forward strides over the course of this season. And then

836
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:25,599
Oregon State. All right, they beat an FCS team, Lafayette,

837
00:51:25,599 --> 00:51:28,159
but hey, it's a win. It's the first one of

838
00:51:28,159 --> 00:51:30,800
the season for Oregon State. So over there in the

839
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:35,000
two pack and the Pacific Northwest, some teams are showing

840
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:39,119
a measure of improvement. But UCLA, Indiana is going to

841
00:51:39,119 --> 00:51:42,760
be the really big story in week nine. We're all

842
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,559
going to be watching the Bruins. Who thought that Ucile

843
00:51:45,679 --> 00:51:49,239
football was going to have such a high profile position

844
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,079
a month ago, you know, when the Bruins were zero

845
00:51:52,079 --> 00:51:54,239
to four and heading for you know, it seemed like

846
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:59,920
an oh to twelve season. So UCLA takes Centers State

847
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,960
in Illinois. Washington is also going to be a very

848
00:52:05,039 --> 00:52:09,119
prominent game for the Big Ten in week nine, So

849
00:52:09,159 --> 00:52:11,480
that just about covers it. For Get off my pilon

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858
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:50,880
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