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Speaker 2: So maybe this is something that's like already out there.
Speaker 2: It's well known and I just didn't notice. But they're
Speaker 2: listening to everything that comes into our phones, right, and
Speaker 2: I say they I guess, I mean just like apps
Speaker 2: and whatnot illuminati, because I mean, there are certain things
Speaker 2: that you can make sense of, right if you are
Speaker 2: looking at something on your phone, like you Google search something,
Speaker 2: or you are consuming content that is of you know,
Speaker 2: like if you're looking at real estate stuff. Then when
Speaker 2: you go to other apps or you are using you know,
Speaker 2: just your phone and there's advertisements, it's going to it's
Speaker 2: gonna know, to give you ads for something that you
Speaker 2: were more likely to click on that you've already been
Speaker 2: looking at, like there's there's I mean, I think it
Speaker 2: used to be why are they targeting me with this?
Speaker 2: When I used to run a website, I used to
Speaker 2: think of as funny when people with screenshot, Well, why
Speaker 2: am I seeing this ad? Why are you advertised with this?
Speaker 2: This is disgusting? Well, it targeted you for that because
Speaker 2: you clearly cons like you've looked at something like that before.
Speaker 2: But anyways, I am I'm not even kidding you. I
Speaker 2: will think of something in my head.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: I'm not looking it up. I'm not I'm not asking
Speaker 2: for it. I'm not even saying anything out loud. I
Speaker 2: just I think of it in my brain and then
Speaker 2: I go to my phone and open up Instagram, Facebook
Speaker 2: or TikTok in it it read my mind yep. So
Speaker 2: I know they're listening, But as far as like what
Speaker 2: they can gather from my brain, I don't know how
Speaker 2: they're doing it. Maybe it was that chip they put
Speaker 2: on us when we took those COVID shots of course, vaccines, Like,
Speaker 2: maybe that's what it is, but it is amazing. Look,
Speaker 2: I don't I mean, maybe that is a real threat
Speaker 2: to security and I should be worried, but I don't care.
Speaker 2: In fact, it makes it pretty easy if I'm going
Speaker 2: to platforms, apps, whatever it may be, and they know
Speaker 2: what I want. That's gonna make it a better experience,
Speaker 2: to be honest with you. But two examples. Yesterday I
Speaker 2: had a buddy of mine text me who said, when
Speaker 2: I shared the story after I got here yesterday, I
Speaker 2: ended up hitting it was a very bad scenario, and
Speaker 2: I still feel terrible about it. But I got into
Speaker 2: the far right lane on Broadway, right in front of
Speaker 2: a bus stop, and somebody was walking inch inching closer
Speaker 2: towards the street to I guess see if the bus
Speaker 2: was coming, and I hit a puddle with my vehicle
Speaker 2: and it it monsooned over and looked like it looked
Speaker 2: like they were experimenting with a new ride at her
Speaker 2: Cane Bay, and I mean it, I felt terrible. But
Speaker 2: then somebody, my buddy texted me while listening to the
Speaker 2: show and said he popped open I think it might
Speaker 2: have been Facebook or TikTok, and like one of the
Speaker 2: reels he saw was something like that happening. I swear
Speaker 2: he sent me the screen shot. He sent me the
Speaker 2: screen shot.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: So and then today what we talked him good earlier
Speaker 2: Valentine's All Time restaurants Hooters. I go to break there.
Speaker 2: The first thing I when I when I opened up
Speaker 2: Facebook during the break that the first thing I saw
Speaker 2: was somebody posting that they're at Hooters today and they're
Speaker 2: working somebody. I mean, like, that's that's insane. And I
Speaker 2: know that I'm not the only one that has had
Speaker 2: that happen, you know what I mean. I know I'm
Speaker 2: not the only one that has been Like how would
Speaker 2: they know that? Like, I'll think of something I haven't
Speaker 2: seen for a while on TikTok, I keep scrolling there.
Speaker 2: It is so again, it's convenient, but it's also kind
Speaker 2: of scary. But I don't feel like there's any like,
Speaker 2: if you want my info, my day, as long as
Speaker 2: you don't steal my identity or you know, hacked my
Speaker 2: accounts when it comes to like my financial situation. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm pretty boring. I'm not somebody that you know, there's
Speaker 2: not a whole lot you're gonna you're gonna, you know,
Speaker 2: you're going to gain from from having access to my information.
Speaker 2: But I mean I know that that has that a
Speaker 2: lot of people listening have probably had something happened to
Speaker 2: where it's kind of tripped you out a little bit, like,
Speaker 2: wait a second, how how that's not a coincidence.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of that's odd.
Speaker 2: You've never had it happen.
Speaker 3: No, that's always happened the things that I've.
Speaker 2: But like, those two examples are crazy, right, Yes, the
Speaker 2: hooters and then.
Speaker 3: The splashing suddle with I actually was.
Speaker 4: Driving here because I had to go fill some of
Speaker 4: the vehicles up with gas, and that just went through
Speaker 4: my mind because.
Speaker 2: Of nothing this man won't do for our hard media folks.
Speaker 2: Just let you know, just got to guess him up
Speaker 2: for a second company man version two. We need oil changes,
Speaker 2: He'll go do it.
Speaker 3: I got you. I'll go sit in Valvele.
Speaker 2: Wanted to stand outside the Young Center for a concert,
Speaker 2: got it.
Speaker 3: I go do it?
Speaker 1: Done?
Speaker 2: Lactivation code. Yeah, you get a T shirt? You want
Speaker 2: Tony DW. White Remote done, Let's go.
Speaker 3: I'll be it there.
Speaker 2: You would have prety coffee and company. He does it?
Speaker 3: What don't I do?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: All right, my face star is starting to turn right now.
Speaker 4: But I was driving down Broadway, and right before I
Speaker 4: get the fifth Street, I saw the exact same bus
Speaker 4: stop that you passed by.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 4: Thankfully no one was there and there wasn't like a
Speaker 4: big puddle. But that did flash through my mind as
Speaker 4: I'm driving, you know, because I'm just trying to get
Speaker 4: around traffic.
Speaker 2: Really, oh yeah, that's probably where Nick.
Speaker 4: You know, Nick got someone completely soaked yesterday, giggity. And
Speaker 4: one of the other other weird things is is I
Speaker 4: don't know understand how they do it, but like credit
Speaker 4: cards or like your bank or debit cards, like how
Speaker 4: do they know that you're not in possession? Like have
Speaker 4: you ever gotten like your wallet taken away or like
Speaker 4: your wallet stolen or lost on your credit card? And
Speaker 4: then like they'll hit you up, Hey there's a fraud alert.
Speaker 4: We know that this is not you, Like how do
Speaker 4: they know that?
Speaker 2: Okay, I've got I've got an answer to that.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: So my sister unfortunately recently had a nightmare experience with
Speaker 2: that somebody got access to her accounts and I mean
Speaker 2: it it it, it is bad. I mean it sounds
Speaker 2: like she's starting to get everything taken care of. But
Speaker 2: I mean they logged, they logged into every little thing
Speaker 2: that she had, and you know, they purchased a bunch
Speaker 2: of stuff. So what happens is unless you have somebody
Speaker 2: physically steal it from you, because a lot of times
Speaker 2: you'll have your card info and you'll think, well, how
Speaker 2: did somebody get it? Right? So what happens is in
Speaker 2: order to I'm not an expert on it by any means,
Speaker 2: but from what it sounds like is if if they
Speaker 2: want to, I guess have the best chances of not
Speaker 2: getting caught. They don't. They upload it on like the
Speaker 2: dark web, and they share it to where there's now
Speaker 2: sex six to seven people using your bank card from
Speaker 2: all over the world to purchase different things. That is,
Speaker 2: that's what keeps it from you know, and it's a
Speaker 2: scary and sad thing to think about how often this
Speaker 2: happens in so many I mean, the vast majority of
Speaker 2: the people that do this never get caught. But you can,
Speaker 2: you know, if you can get your money back if
Speaker 2: you flag it, and you know, it's still a pain
Speaker 2: in the ass and you may be without money for
Speaker 2: a while to they reimburse all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: But anyways, that's how it because your bank will know, hey,
Speaker 2: this charge is coming from Germany, this charge is coming
Speaker 2: from Texas. Yeah, and it all took place in the
Speaker 2: same three minutes. That's what triggers it that it's unusual.
Speaker 2: And then sometimes though like we had when I've traveled,
Speaker 2: that's happened to me twice when my card got compromised,
Speaker 2: and initially it's not a real red flag. Like I
Speaker 2: was in Chicago and I and I went to a
Speaker 2: concert and then we went to dinner, but then there
Speaker 2: was a charge at a gas station in Chicago that
Speaker 2: was for you know, like a ton of like a
Speaker 2: huge fill up or something like that, and that wasn't me.
Speaker 2: So then, you know, I noticed that was unusual, but
Speaker 2: my bank didn't. Well then sure enough, you know, by
Speaker 2: the time I was calling them to say like, hey,
Speaker 2: this wasn't me. I look at my account and there's
Speaker 2: more charges, and they've already initiated the process to let
Speaker 2: me know, hey, was this use. But there's some banks
Speaker 2: that like, don't catch it because these criminals are really good,
Speaker 2: Like I'll never forget. We were in Destin a few
Speaker 2: years ago and I got a phone call from a
Speaker 2: number that showed on my iPhone that it was that
Speaker 2: it was my bank mm hm. And they answered and said, hey,
Speaker 2: you know, it looks like you had a spec a
Speaker 2: suspicious charge here at at this place. And I said, no,
Speaker 2: we did go there, but not to that not that much.
Speaker 2: And they were basically saying, yeah, it looks like you
Speaker 2: got charged twice or there. I think what they told
Speaker 2: me is there's one of those like skimmers where they
Speaker 2: get your card info when you scan it. That's what
Speaker 2: they told me, and it seemed legit because I'm thinking, okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's not good. But then they kept asking me for information,
Speaker 2: and finally, like I'm talking to the person on the phone,
Speaker 2: my wife can't hear them, and she notices, like, all right,
Speaker 2: because she works in the financial industry, she noticed that
Speaker 2: this line of questioning and what they want it's not
Speaker 2: crazy considering that you might be hacked. But also they
Speaker 2: wouldn't need that information. And it was like asking me, like,
Speaker 2: ask me for my login essentially so they can reset
Speaker 2: it to make sure nobody else gets in. And I'm thinking, okay, well, thanks,
Speaker 2: I'm glad you guys caught it. You're really going to
Speaker 2: help me out. And I and I and I seemed
Speaker 2: suspicious when I was talking to the person, and to
Speaker 2: be fair, they seemed very like, hey, you know, I understand.
Speaker 2: But if you look at the back of your debit
Speaker 2: card right now, you look at the number that it
Speaker 2: tells you to call. If it's customer service, you'll see
Speaker 2: that's the number we're calling from. And I'm thinking, okay, well,
Speaker 2: you're right. Well it's called phone spoofing. They just made
Speaker 2: it look like that when they call and showed the
Speaker 2: number coming from my bank, and then my wife. She
Speaker 2: actually got an automated email from our from our bank,
Speaker 2: our financial institution, that said, while I'm on the phone
Speaker 2: with him, the email said, be aware this is happening.
Speaker 2: It wasn't just us, it was to everybody that banks there,
Speaker 2: and and and I mentioned that, and they kind of
Speaker 2: laughed and then hung up, like, I mean, they were
Speaker 2: they were they were impressive. They were caught, right, yeah,
Speaker 2: they were caught, but they but they were caught, but
Speaker 2: they weren't right, like they knew that, like somebody was
Speaker 2: out there doing that. But I wouldn't be shocked if
Speaker 2: they never actually got caught. In fact, one of the
Speaker 2: really satisfying things to get into on on TikTok or
Speaker 2: even YouTube actually is these videos where they'll they'll alter
Speaker 2: their voice and they'll take calls from these people who
Speaker 2: are trying to scam you. Yeah, and they'll sound I
Speaker 2: mean they can and I don't even know how this works,
Speaker 2: but I guess it's just the power of technology. They
Speaker 2: can talk. And yet on the other end, it's instead
Speaker 2: of it being a you know, forty year old man,
Speaker 2: it sounds like an elderly woman who's really naive. So
Speaker 2: these scammers. They think that they've got you know, they
Speaker 2: think they've got somebody that's real vulnerable that they can
Speaker 2: really take advantage of wipe out their accounts and all
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. So sure enough, they it's a
Speaker 2: long play, and you know, they just sound like a
Speaker 2: really dumb Oh I shouldn't say dumb, but they just
Speaker 2: play really dumb, like, oh, I don't know what am
Speaker 2: I supposed to do? Do you need this and that?
Speaker 2: And what ends up happening is that they tell them
Speaker 2: to like log on to do this, And what they're
Speaker 2: basically doing is trying to get old people who quite
Speaker 2: literally just are naive to where they will go to
Speaker 2: a website you tell them to, they'll they'll give you
Speaker 2: all the information and you basically log into their computer
Speaker 2: from you know, India or wherever, and then you you
Speaker 2: freeze their computer and you get all their information, steal
Speaker 2: their identity and all that, and and you wouldn't believe
Speaker 2: how often it actually happens. But there's these guys on Twitter,
Speaker 2: are on TikTok and YouTube to where they will they'll
Speaker 2: video the whole thing and they'll end up doing it
Speaker 2: to them. And when these hack, when these hackers realize
Speaker 2: they got got and that in fact, their computer is
Speaker 2: not accessible that's in front of them. Because this little
Speaker 2: old lady wasn't a little old lady she was. It
Speaker 2: was somebody who was waiting for you to call so
Speaker 2: they could get you. They'll end up like deleting their
Speaker 2: entire hard drive. And what's crazy is these people who
Speaker 2: sit around for hours every day just trying to find
Speaker 2: a sucker they can scam and steal their money and
Speaker 2: steal their identity and maybe ruin their life. They get
Speaker 2: enraged and they play like the victim and they get
Speaker 2: so angry, and it's I just it's a wild It's
Speaker 2: so satisfying to see them have it done to them,
Speaker 2: but it's also satisfying to see how angry they get,
Speaker 2: because I mean, it's also kind of insanely irritating to
Speaker 2: know that they are the ones who feel like they
Speaker 2: feel like they've been wronged here and they need justice
Speaker 2: when they're the ones who all they do all day
Speaker 2: is just try to scam people.
Speaker 3: Right. So that's what happened to me a couple of
Speaker 3: months ago, probably about like two.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you tried to sell something, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I tried to sell something on like a fake
Speaker 4: or not a fake. It's it's called McCrary. It's like
Speaker 4: kind of like eBay poshmark. And I was trying to
Speaker 4: sell my assigned assigned action figure that I got from
Speaker 4: Cody Rhoades. He's a WWE superstar, you know that. But
Speaker 4: some of our listeners shout out Cody Roads, shout out
Speaker 4: Kobe W's a friend of the baby Faces podcast too,
Speaker 4: and yes, yes, Shelbyville Road alumni or Shepherdsville Road alumni
Speaker 4: at OVW. But I just trying to get like a
Speaker 4: couple hundred bucks out of something. And this was my
Speaker 4: fault because I was really really greedy and I just
Speaker 4: wanted something now. But after I posted it, someone had
Speaker 4: made a comment on it. Hey, text me and send
Speaker 4: me pictures or whatnot and let me see, you know,
Speaker 4: let me see different photos of it. Little did I know,
Speaker 4: I was basically like texting a bot or some other
Speaker 4: sort of number rather than like go the traditional route
Speaker 4: where like Mercury will notify you, Hey, someone offered to
Speaker 4: buy this, and just going through the app, I just
Speaker 4: completely skip that and texted these people. And as I
Speaker 4: go back and look at some of the text messages.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of misspelling, and I should have known,
Speaker 4: but they told me that they couldn't buy it. And
Speaker 4: then they sent me the customer a fake customer service
Speaker 4: email and said you need to email these people.
Speaker 2: And they probably all looked legit.
Speaker 4: It did they did a good job, perhaps to them.
Speaker 4: So I emailed them. They said, yeah, you need to
Speaker 4: have at least if you're going to sell something for
Speaker 4: two fifty, you need to have two fifty in your account.
Speaker 4: So that's why they're blocking it. I've tried to buy it,
Speaker 4: but we are blocking this because there's not enough in
Speaker 4: your account to cover it. So I'm like, all right,
Speaker 4: well what I have to do? They said, well, put
Speaker 4: two hundred and fifty dollars in there. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 4: I'll go ahead and do that. And then they said,
Speaker 4: well if you as you do without hesitation, without hesitation, okay.
Speaker 4: And because they also told me if I put in
Speaker 4: another two hundred and fifty dollars, every five hundred dollars
Speaker 4: that you put in, this is going to make me
Speaker 4: sound like an idiot. But they said, every five hundred
Speaker 4: dollars that you put in will credit your account fifty
Speaker 4: percent of that so if you put five hundred dollars
Speaker 4: in and we're going to add an extra two fifty
Speaker 4: on to it, I should have known.
Speaker 2: So I was right. So initially it all it still
Speaker 2: seemed a little sus to me. But the last part
Speaker 2: you just mentioned is where it clearly was too good
Speaker 2: to be true.
Speaker 3: Right, absolutely, and I should have known that.
Speaker 2: So but initially though like it, I mean I think
Speaker 2: I would have I would have probably I don't know
Speaker 2: if I would have done the same thing, but where
Speaker 2: I would have absolutely had the awareness was the whole like, well,
Speaker 2: if you put more money in just because it just
Speaker 2: it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Why were
Speaker 2: they giving me two hundred and fifty dollars? But you know,
Speaker 2: I would imagine that there are way more people than
Speaker 2: you would realize Austin that would do the exact same.
Speaker 3: Thing, So it could have been worse.
Speaker 2: I have a family member who I won't mention who
Speaker 2: it is, and this it's not like I'm insulting them
Speaker 2: or you know, but it may just maybe something they
Speaker 2: don't want out there. But they got got or almost
Speaker 2: got got, and it was because of something that seemed
Speaker 2: totally legit. It the website, like everything looked real, but
Speaker 2: it all came down to this, it sounds too good
Speaker 2: to be true, then it's just then it's probably too
Speaker 2: good to be true. So they and they were looking
Speaker 2: for part time work, not full time, and there was
Speaker 2: a new energy drink out there that was going to
Speaker 2: pay like a stipend for people if they would have
Speaker 2: if they would wrap their vehicle in the brand, right,
Speaker 2: like just if you're out on the road, you know,
Speaker 2: you see it. And I'm thinking, okay, well, first of all,
Speaker 2: they're not sometimes yeah, they're not offering you a whole
Speaker 2: lot of money, And it makes sense that they would
Speaker 2: want to do this because they just want awareness about
Speaker 2: their new product. And they had a real website. It
Speaker 2: looked totally legit. But I was I was talking to
Speaker 2: them and they were telling me, and I'm like, all right, well,
Speaker 2: you you go to school and your previously you know,
Speaker 2: do online schooling, and your previous job was a work
Speaker 2: from home. You don't leave. They didn't ask you when
Speaker 2: you ever leave and you when you ever they didn't
Speaker 2: ask you how often you drive your vehicle If they're
Speaker 2: going to spend money for somebody to do that, which
Speaker 2: it makes sense, that they would.
Speaker 3: They didn't even know it, but it would.
Speaker 2: But yeah, but they but it wouldn't know they they
Speaker 2: did ask about and again they wanted like, can you
Speaker 2: give us the mileage? Can you give us the make
Speaker 2: of the vehicle? Maybe send a picture? They were asking
Speaker 2: for information that they didn't need, but the request of
Speaker 2: the information made it seem legit. But the one key
Speaker 2: thing is that why are they gonna give you two
Speaker 2: undred and fifty to three hundred dollars a week when
Speaker 2: when you may your car may sit in the garage
Speaker 2: for six out of seven days. Like if they're gonna
Speaker 2: spend money, they're gonna they're gonna do that with people
Speaker 2: who they know are out there driving. They're not gonna
Speaker 2: buy advertising space on like delivery service vehicles. And the
Speaker 2: light bulb went off and they felt like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: like that I can't. And again, it's easy when you're
Speaker 2: not out, when you don't operate like a scammer and
Speaker 2: your mind is not always on a hustle or a
Speaker 2: scam to get over on somebody. I don't think it
Speaker 2: makes you naive it just these people are impressive, right,
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, but but always ask yourself when you
Speaker 2: start to realize something just doesn't like, there's no way
Speaker 2: this seems way good to be true. D nine point
Speaker 2: nine percent of the time it is too.
Speaker 3: Good to be true. So exactly, just.
Speaker 2: Keep that in mind. All right, So we'll take a
Speaker 2: quick break. Still no update on Chucky Hepburn. I feel
Speaker 2: like a stalker. I've been refreshing Twitter really all day
Speaker 2: really the last week to see if there's any kind
Speaker 2: of an update on his status. I don't see anything,
Speaker 2: although I do see some real cruel people out here
Speaker 2: who are trying to you know, not scam people, but
Speaker 2: just play a joke. But it's not a funny joke.
Speaker 3: I tell you.
Speaker 2: We don't joke about Chucky's growing. Okay, no, we don't
Speaker 2: joke about it at all.
Speaker 4: Meyer, Chucky is growing. I mean we want the best
Speaker 4: for Chucky's growing.
Speaker 2: Somebody's sending this screenshot of this tweet that says breaking
Speaker 2: Chucky Hepburn listed as out of this world good at defense.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, Yeah, it's cruel as what it is. Tease
Speaker 2: me like that. I mean, he may be out, but
Speaker 2: you know that's not the kind of mouth service we'd
Speaker 2: like to give Chucky's growing. Exactly, and if he needs mine,
Speaker 2: it's still available. I don't know how how that would happen,
Speaker 2: but he can have my groin if he needs.
Speaker 3: You have a pretty good groin. Yeah, we could probably
Speaker 3: use it.
Speaker 2: I have two children, I mean two times sex overs. Yeah, exactly.
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Speaker 2: Day, This game, to be honest, lovell NC State is
Speaker 2: really not one that's gonna be one of the better
Speaker 2: matchups in college basketball this week, even tonight, to be
Speaker 2: honest with you, I haven't even looked at the rest
Speaker 2: of the board tonight. Had a bad night last night gambling,
Speaker 2: so I haven't even looked. But I'm going to get
Speaker 2: back on the go, get back on it tonight and
Speaker 2: hopefully find some success. We can do, baby, It's all
Speaker 2: we can do, is you're right. So Louisville currently favored
Speaker 2: about six and a half, and I guess the storyline
Speaker 2: potentially would be that Louisville is going to play on
Speaker 2: the road, potentially without their starting point guard against a
Speaker 2: bad team. But the bad team has two guys that
Speaker 2: might have a little extra motivation tonight because Brandon Hunty
Speaker 2: Hatfield and Mike James with former Louisville Cardinals, and I
Speaker 2: don't I don't think that that's much of a storyline,
Speaker 2: to be honest with you, because just like the Kentucky
Speaker 2: players playing against Arkansas, there's just there's no there's no connection.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's not anybody left on this roster tonight,
Speaker 2: or I shouldn't say left, I mean nobody was left.
Speaker 2: I mean this entirely new team from top to bottom, staff, coach, everybody.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's all brand new. So there's you know,
Speaker 2: they're they're gonna play against potentially Brandon Hilly Hatfield and
Speaker 2: maybe Mike James, and it won't it's not gonna be
Speaker 2: I mean they they'll probably mean I think they know
Speaker 2: those guys played here, but like, there's no this should
Speaker 2: not be in any way any kind of a factor
Speaker 2: for for Louisville as far as like, are they going
Speaker 2: to be tight, because man, we don't want to lose
Speaker 2: to the guys that played for Kenny Payne here. I
Speaker 2: can't imagine that'll be in the mind of any of
Speaker 2: these guys on the other side. With those two, they
Speaker 2: could maybe try to manufacture something about I want to
Speaker 2: show Louisville what they missed out on. I'm gonna take
Speaker 2: it out on Louisville because I came there to play
Speaker 2: and they had a bomb coaching the program. Like maybe
Speaker 2: that's some motivation for them. But as far as like
Speaker 2: any real connection on the floor tonight between everybody top
Speaker 2: to bottom, player, coach, there's nothing. Yes, they're playing their
Speaker 2: former team, but it's not really their former team in
Speaker 2: any way. It's just a team that happens to wear
Speaker 2: Louisville jerseys. So and by the way, they may not
Speaker 2: even play because earlier, earlier this week, I think it
Speaker 2: might have been on Monday, there was really no update
Speaker 2: from Kevin Keats on the status of both these guys.
Speaker 2: Mike James has not played. In fact, I don't has
Speaker 2: he played any this year? I think I I looked
Speaker 2: it up earlier. I don't think he's Earlier in the week,
Speaker 2: I don't think he Yeah, this is according to wdrb
Speaker 2: Rick Bozic, that Mike James has not played a minute
Speaker 2: for NC State this year. First it was a knee
Speaker 2: problem and now he's had some kind of an illness,
Speaker 2: So I guess he did start practicing and now he's
Speaker 2: just been sick. If I'm Mike James, I wouldn't play
Speaker 2: at all. It's mid February, you haven't clocked a single second.
Speaker 2: You can probably still get another red shirt, and I mean,
Speaker 2: what would be beneficial in coming back now? And then
Speaker 2: Brandon Hilley Addfield. You know, he scored in double figures
Speaker 2: in nine of their first thirteen games and really hasn't
Speaker 2: been much of a of a factor since then. And
Speaker 2: he's missed five games, including the last three with a
Speaker 2: shoulder injury. So Keats was asked on Monday and didn't
Speaker 2: give much of an indication. He didn't he didn't rule
Speaker 2: them out, but he also didn't say they were going
Speaker 2: to play. So we'll we'll see and look that won't
Speaker 2: that shouldn't matter as far as Louisville winning tonight. I
Speaker 2: mean not to say those guys are terrible, but like,
Speaker 2: if those guys play well tonight, that'll be unfortunate. Like, wow,
Speaker 2: two guys who used to play here, they're the ones
Speaker 2: who maybe had big games and gave Louisville a bad loss. Like,
Speaker 2: but I'm not building this up kind of like some
Speaker 2: Kentucky fans did with Callen and by the way, Callan
Speaker 2: Arkansas are way better than NC State, But I think
Speaker 2: Kentucky fans were like, well, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: come on, you know he's going to play his best game,
Speaker 2: which are coach's best game, which is exactly what Cali
Speaker 2: Perry actually did. But I mean, Louisville is going into
Speaker 2: Raleigh tonight and they're playing a team that is nine
Speaker 2: and fourteen. They've lost eight in a row. They're not
Speaker 2: any good. They have really nothing to play for, and
Speaker 2: if Louisville comes out ready to go and they play well,
Speaker 2: they should win. With or without Chucky Hipburn. Doesn't mean
Speaker 2: it's gonna happen because they they mean they look, they
Speaker 2: lost to Georgia Tech with a healthy Chucky Hitburn, right,
Speaker 2: so like we know that this kind of stuff can happen.
Speaker 2: And I do think NC State is a team that
Speaker 2: I would also say, and this doesn't mean anything, but
Speaker 2: they shouldn't be as bad as they are when it
Speaker 2: comes to the personnel. I mean that's not to say
Speaker 2: they're good. I mean I think even if they played
Speaker 2: to their full potential, I still don't know how good
Speaker 2: they would be. But what I think is key tonight
Speaker 2: is to not bury them early. It'd be great if
Speaker 2: you could bury in C State early and they just
Speaker 2: went through the motions because they're down big time and
Speaker 2: they just start to you know, they just it's really
Speaker 2: hard to overcome that human element as an athlete when
Speaker 2: your team is having the kind of season they're having
Speaker 2: and you have a really big run early on go
Speaker 2: against you. At that point you kind of just you know,
Speaker 2: you don't roll over and die and accept defeat, but
Speaker 2: you start to go through the motions and it's really
Speaker 2: hard to have resilience and bounce back whenever you've had
Speaker 2: a lot of repetition at this point in the season
Speaker 2: of getting your butt kicked, and when you have a setback,
Speaker 2: maybe a team goes on to like a six to
Speaker 2: sozero run or something like that. If you're a good team,
Speaker 2: you're not really that phased by that. When you're a
Speaker 2: bad team, it's hard to just shake it off. As
Speaker 2: if you're not going to start having a little PTSD,
Speaker 2: you're not going to start to think, man, is this
Speaker 2: one getting away from us again? So Lowell comes out
Speaker 2: plays well early. That doesn't really guarantee anything, but I
Speaker 2: feel like that that would be best case scenario. What
Speaker 2: would worry me is if NC State comes out hot,
Speaker 2: plays really well, and then you get to I don't know,
Speaker 2: early to midway through the second half, and they're like,
Speaker 2: all right, we're about to do this, And let's be honest,
Speaker 2: it's not like that. It's not like they're playing Duke tonight.
Speaker 2: They're playing a Louisville team that maybe shorthanded without Chucky,
Speaker 2: and even when healthy, they lost to Georgia Tech. So
Speaker 2: best case scenario is that you play well early and
Speaker 2: Georgia and in NC State remembers that they're n C State.
Speaker 2: That's nine and fourteen and they've lostate in a row.
Speaker 2: That's what worried me a little bit about the Miami
Speaker 2: game is because Louisville still ended up holding on and
Speaker 2: winning by double digits. But the longer Miami hung around,
Speaker 2: the more they forget that they're terrible, right, the more
Speaker 2: that they can block out that reminder that that'll hit
Speaker 2: them whenever they're they're they're up against it and a
Speaker 2: big run the other team has just put together. I mean,
Speaker 2: so Louisville had chances to bury them against meeting Miami
Speaker 2: and then every night then Miami, we hit a couple
Speaker 2: of shots and they'd keep it between like five and seven,
Speaker 2: and at that point they're thinking, Okay, we're alive here,
Speaker 2: let's let's go ahead and do this thing. So avoiding
Speaker 2: that will be key, and I think Louisville can do that.
Speaker 2: But to me, it really just comes down to is
Speaker 2: if nc State comes ready to play and they play well,
Speaker 2: louill can still win, but it's gonna be tougher without Chucky.
Speaker 2: What I don't know what to expect is the crowd.
Speaker 2: Like n C State low key has a huge and
Speaker 2: very passionate fan base really in all sports, but basketball specifically.
Speaker 2: The issue is that nobody seems to really know or
Speaker 2: care or pay attention to it because they also happen
Speaker 2: to compete against North Carolina and Duke, which are clearly
Speaker 2: bigger programs in that area. But when Carolina is when
Speaker 2: NCA state's good, I mean, they've got a routy environment
Speaker 2: and they and they're a good program. So if Chucky
Speaker 2: was playing, I'd feel a lot better. But I gotta
Speaker 2: be honest that I'm glad somebody kind of echoed this
Speaker 2: on the on the text line that even with Chucky,
Speaker 2: like these are games that little has to play well
Speaker 2: or they'll be in trouble because they just don't. Like
Speaker 2: there aren't many teams in college basketball. I think they
Speaker 2: could come out and play really poorly in conference play
Speaker 2: and beat anybody. I mean there are some, trust me,
Speaker 2: but louisll was not one of them, meaning they nearly
Speaker 2: lost the EKU and they lost to Georgia Tech. I
Speaker 2: don't say that to like pick on them as if
Speaker 2: they're not worthy of being like a tournament team or
Speaker 2: anything like that. But the Georgia Tech loss was a
Speaker 2: real reminder of just how beatable they can be when
Speaker 2: certain things don't go their way. And also I give
Speaker 2: a lot of credit to Georgia Tech. I think that
Speaker 2: was a really impressive win for them, and sure enough,
Speaker 2: they ended up beating Clemson the next game in Clemson
Speaker 2: knocked off Duke and then blew out Carolina. So Georgia
Speaker 2: Tech's a good example of a team that has shown
Speaker 2: that they're not as bad as their record indicates. But again,
Speaker 2: you are who your record says you are. So no
Speaker 2: update yet on Chucky at least that I can see,
Speaker 2: and fingers crossed that he plays.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: So some big news last week that didn't seem real
Speaker 2: ended up being real. The Denver Nuggets, not the Denver Nuggets,
Speaker 2: Dallas Mavericks did in factory Luka Doncik And a week
Speaker 2: later he made his debut and they bumped. Was it
Speaker 2: a Monday night they bumped one of the Yeah, it
Speaker 2: was Auburn. And who was Auburn playing the number one
Speaker 2: team in the country, the Auburn Tigers. They were on ESPN,
Speaker 2: I believe they were, and then they got bumped. Maybe
Speaker 2: it was ESPN two. So the Luca Laker debut, could
Speaker 2: could could get the flagship program ESPN and it and
Speaker 2: it delivered as far as numbers, two million viewers on ESPN.
Speaker 2: ESPN even cut away from the second half of that.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry it wasn't SEC an SEC game. It was
Speaker 2: Houston and Baylor. I apologize. I don't know why I
Speaker 2: thought it was Auburn and somebody Auburn played, I think
Speaker 2: last night. So Luca, he he looks like a gat
Speaker 2: I mean, he looks like he's gonna fit in just
Speaker 2: fine there. And there hadn't been a moment just yet
Speaker 2: where you're like, wow, this is unfair or how did
Speaker 2: anybody let this trade happen, and I'm not sure if
Speaker 2: there will be that kind of a moment, but man,
Speaker 2: it could not have worked out worse for Dallas because
Speaker 2: their fans clearly are still devastated by this. I mean,
Speaker 2: you've got people setting up stuff outside the arena with
Speaker 2: candles and pictures of Luca like he died. And then
Speaker 2: I genuinely felt bad for Anthony Davis because he's a
Speaker 2: really good player. Like he is. He's one of the
Speaker 2: best players.
Speaker 3: In the NBA.
Speaker 2: He's an All I mean, he's a defensive Player of
Speaker 2: the Year caliber guy. He's been on the NBA First
Speaker 2: Team four times, which is a pretty impressive feed. He's
Speaker 2: not an MVP, but man, he's been. He's been really
Speaker 2: really good at ten time All Star. Like, I don't
Speaker 2: need to tell anybody how good Anthony Davis has been
Speaker 2: when he's healthy. So to hear all the noise last week,
Speaker 2: because usually if somebody lands a player of Anthony Davis's
Speaker 2: caliber in a trade, they're gonna be like, oh my,
Speaker 2: this is this is awesome, got ad are you kidding me?
Speaker 2: But it wasn't that. Ninety nine point nine percent of
Speaker 2: the noise in the reaction about this trade was how
Speaker 2: the hell did Dallas trade Luka Doncik. It didn't really
Speaker 2: matter who he was being traded for. It was more like,
Speaker 2: how do you let Luca walk? And we now know
Speaker 2: they just didn't feel like he was ever going to
Speaker 2: buy in and really work hard enough defensively and work
Speaker 2: hard enough on his body to where they would get
Speaker 2: over the hump. I guess they felt like getting to
Speaker 2: the finals with Luca last year was the peak of
Speaker 2: what they're going to get out of him, and they
Speaker 2: just felt like they wanted to cut bait. We'll see
Speaker 2: how that works out. But Anthony Davis is a really,
Speaker 2: really good player, a legendary player, to be honest with you,
Speaker 2: And yet the reaction wasn't oh Wow, we got AD.
Speaker 2: It was I'm devastated that this is the guy we
Speaker 2: have instead of Luca. And it wasn't really anything about
Speaker 2: a d But the issues that people brought up, like
Speaker 2: why you wouldn't trade Luca at all were valid. And
Speaker 2: then when you bring up Anthony Davis, he's six seven
Speaker 2: years older than Luca and he's injury prone. So AD
Speaker 2: came out and he had a phenomenal debut with Dallas.
Speaker 2: I mean I'm gonna pull up his uh, his numbers.
Speaker 2: I mean he had a really really good game. What
Speaker 2: with the numbers, I'm gonna pull it up now. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And he was he was really energetic. I mean, he
Speaker 2: was showing more emotion than I typically remember seeing him
Speaker 2: have when he plays, because again, he felt that he
Speaker 2: wasn't wanted. He felt like, you know, he probably felt
Speaker 2: justifiably disrespected when it comes to, you know, the reaction
Speaker 2: from everybody, and especially the new team that he's playing for,
Speaker 2: Like he thinks they should be lucky to have him.
Speaker 2: So in his debut, he in thirty one minutes, he
Speaker 2: was ten of eighteen, had twenty six points, sixteen rebounds,
Speaker 2: seven assists in three blocks in a win against Houston,
Speaker 2: a good Rockets team too, by the way. And he's
Speaker 2: seen you can see him. You can't hear him, but
Speaker 2: you can see what he's saying. I'm here and I'm better.
Speaker 2: I'm here and I'm better.
Speaker 3: Ooh spicy.
Speaker 2: And then he gets hurt and is now expected to
Speaker 2: be sidelined for a month.
Speaker 3: Like, I just love that.
Speaker 2: It could not have worked out any worse for Anthony
Speaker 2: Davis and the Dallas Mavericks because I mean, this is
Speaker 2: exactly why you wouldn't give up Luca for this player.
Speaker 2: Not that he's not good, but man, just giving up
Speaker 2: a generational type talent for a thirty one year old
Speaker 2: who's really really good when healthy. But man, he's really
Speaker 2: never been consistently healthy, and you got to think the
Speaker 2: older that he gets, the more unlikely it'll be that
Speaker 2: he stays consistently healthy. Rarely do I feel bad for
Speaker 2: professional athletes, because you know, they got it pretty good.
Speaker 2: They're humans, and you know, sure it's tough to see
Speaker 2: certain things that happen, right, Like, I get it, they're
Speaker 2: human beings. But as far as like truly feeling sorry
Speaker 2: for someone, pro athletes are usually the last people I'm
Speaker 2: going to genuinely have remorse for, because, you know what,
Speaker 2: their lives are pretty awesome. Not to say they don't
Speaker 2: deserve I'm sure they worked really hard, but true sympathy
Speaker 2: typically doesn't go out to people in that position as
Speaker 2: a pro athlete. But I did have it for a
Speaker 2: d just because it couldn't have played out worse for him.
Speaker 4: Did you see the the MAVs at the latest game,
Speaker 4: they they they.
Speaker 3: Threw out a fan because.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's that's tough scene. Now, they talked about
Speaker 2: moving the franchise. They did say they weren't gonna do it,
Speaker 2: but that's how like.
Speaker 3: I mean, might be their best option.
Speaker 2: They offered refunds on season tickets to the rest of
Speaker 2: the games, like they know they messed up, And I
Speaker 2: think their belief is that just give it some time
Speaker 2: and you'll see we're gonna be really good. We've got
Speaker 2: a window here where we can be great. And then
Speaker 2: Ad comes out and balls out only to get hurt.
Speaker 2: I mean, talk about terrible Tommy, really bad stuff. All right,
Speaker 2: quick break, we'll come back. On the other side. I'm
Speaker 2: trying to think of memorable NC State Louisville matchups or
Speaker 2: just things that stand out about NC State. I've got
Speaker 2: a couple. We'll talk about them coming up here on
Speaker 2: the other side. Also, I'm not sure if anybody watched
Speaker 2: it last night. I think it debuted last night. But
Speaker 2: Vice TV is doing documentary doing documentary series on some
Speaker 2: college basketball coaches. It just what happens to be Rick
Speaker 2: Patino and John CALIPERI wow, and I'm not gonna seek
Speaker 2: it out, but I am. In fact, if I had
Speaker 2: Vice TV, which I don't I would watch it because
Speaker 2: it looks like it's going to be really well done.
Speaker 3: But I'm just.
Speaker 2: Curious if be like, will you find yourself as a
Speaker 2: Louisville fan or a Kentucky fan keeping up with your
Speaker 2: former coach to that extent. You probably won't, but I'm
Speaker 2: sure some will. All Right, quick break, it's Coffee and
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Speaker 2: All right, So, according to Mike Rutherford, we've got chucky hepburn.
Speaker 2: Apparently going through like walk through, shoot around, warm up
Speaker 2: kind of thing, which that's encouraging. I don't know if
Speaker 2: it means that you know he's he's gonna go, but
Speaker 2: if they're, if they've got him out there and he's
Speaker 2: at least attempting to see if he can go, that's
Speaker 2: encouraging to me. Even if he doesn't play tonight. I
Speaker 2: guess you could look at it the other way and say, man,
Speaker 2: he's he tried and he still can't go. But I
Speaker 2: guess what I need to just accept that is if
Speaker 2: he was like really hurt, we would know they wouldn't
Speaker 2: keep this from us, and they would they would internally
Speaker 2: be trying to figure out, as sad as it sounds,
Speaker 2: life without Chucky, and they have had to play two
Speaker 2: games now without him ort least I guess, really one
Speaker 2: and a half. But if he's if he's going through
Speaker 2: shoot around and he's in uniform, that would be at
Speaker 2: least to me somewhat of a sign that that that
Speaker 2: he's that he's getting closer. I don't know why it
Speaker 2: feels like he got hurt a month ago. It's been
Speaker 2: a week today. I think it wasn't. It was a
Speaker 2: Boston College last Wednesday when it was doesn't it feel
Speaker 2: like it's been forever?
Speaker 4: I got, We've been talking about Chucky's growing for what
Speaker 4: feels like at least two weeks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and the sad part have one.
Speaker 4: Well, the sad part about it is, and I know
Speaker 4: it's probably reiterated, but it didn't seem like that much
Speaker 4: of an injury. Remember this time last week or the
Speaker 4: day afterwards, we were talking about how positive it looked
Speaker 4: because he was laughing, he was joking on the sideline.
Speaker 4: It's just like he just may need a break. But
Speaker 4: you know, this would be quite concerning if it's it's
Speaker 4: seems something that still seems to be lingering.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I I hope that what a couple of
Speaker 2: different people have mentioned on the text line this week
Speaker 2: is true and that he really is dealing with something
Speaker 2: substantially minor and he could probably play through it. It
Speaker 2: would just be a little painful and he may have
Speaker 2: to have some more recovery time than than than than usual.
Speaker 2: And Pat Kelsey just wants his team to be able
Speaker 2: to have some real repetition in what they will do
Speaker 2: if he cannot go, Like if that, if that is true,
Speaker 2: that would be I mean, that'd be great because that
Speaker 2: would mean that this was all just done because Pat
Speaker 2: Kelsey realizes, Hey, there may be some games where Chuck's
Speaker 2: in foul trouble or maybe you know, he has cramps
Speaker 2: or something. I don't know, but I just I don't
Speaker 2: feel like Pat's the kind of guy that would that
Speaker 2: would do that. Not to say it's like an issue,
Speaker 2: not to say like that's the That would be the
Speaker 2: wrong thing to do if you're a coach. But I
Speaker 2: hope you guys are in fact right. But I think
Speaker 2: the way they approach everything every day, like I don't
Speaker 2: think Pat Kelsey's thinking about, hmm, it's Miami. We don't
Speaker 2: need him because we're gonna need him to rest because
Speaker 2: we go on the road to Raleigh this week. And
Speaker 2: if a coach does think that way, there's nothing wrong
Speaker 2: with it. But these guys, they got a formula, they
Speaker 2: got a system, and it works. They don't think about
Speaker 2: another opponent and they have finished the game against the
Speaker 2: team they played before. I mean, they just And again,
Speaker 2: I know every coach and program is hey, one game
Speaker 2: at a time, and it's true to an extent, but
Speaker 2: I think like with these guys, that's a huge part
Speaker 2: of their process is that they don't overlook any opponent.
Speaker 2: Like when they lost to Georgia Tech, they didn't overlook them.
Speaker 2: They actually I thought they came out ready to play,
Speaker 2: to be honest with, they just got beat by a
Speaker 2: team that got really hot and Louisville made some critical
Speaker 2: mistakes late that you know you can't make it and
Speaker 2: expect to win whenever you're missing free throws that kind
Speaker 2: of stuff. So again, I take that as a sign
Speaker 2: of I take that as encouraging. When it comes to Chucky,
Speaker 2: if in fact he's if it's true that he's going
Speaker 2: through shoot around, then maybe he does play tonight. And look,
Speaker 2: even if he does play, they could still lose. I
Speaker 2: mean I think I mentioned that a couple of times
Speaker 2: throughout the day. But yeah, I mean for those reminding
Speaker 2: me like even if Chuck he plays like we can't
Speaker 2: take anybody lightly, I'm with you, and I don't think
Speaker 2: they will. I don't think any loss that Louisville has
Speaker 2: this year has been because they came out and didn't
Speaker 2: respect their opponent and they felt like they could go
Speaker 2: through the motions and still win. I just think really
Speaker 2: every game they've lost has either been to a team
Speaker 2: that on that night we just got to admit they
Speaker 2: were better, or you know, you got beat by a
Speaker 2: team that got hot, and then since they beat you,
Speaker 2: they proved they were better than you thought they were.
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