Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray WBZ Constance News Radio.
Speaker 2: Before we get to the one hundred day report card
Speaker 2: on the Drump administration, I just wanted to point out
Speaker 2: today that there were two reports which were released today
Speaker 2: by a Harvard task force.
Speaker 3: Both of these reports were pretty damning towards Harvard. The
Speaker 3: one report was on the found that anti Semitism had infiltrated.
Speaker 3: Infiltrated is the word that was used. I'm reading here
Speaker 3: from an article that I have from the Boston is
Speaker 3: that the Boston Glover Associated Press. This is the New
Speaker 3: York Times. Excuse me. The Harvard task Force released a
Speaker 3: scathing report account of the university on Tuesday, finding that
Speaker 3: anti Semitism had infiltrated coursework, social life, the hiring of
Speaker 3: some faculty members, and the worldview of certain ex pademic programs.
Speaker 3: There was a separate report on anti Arab, anti Muslim,
Speaker 3: and anti Palestinian bias on campus, also released on Tuesday,
Speaker 3: that found widespread discomfort and alienation amongst those students as well,
Speaker 3: with ninety two percent of Muslim survey respondent saying they
Speaker 3: believed they would face an academic or professional penalty for
Speaker 3: expressing their political viewpoints. This is interesting. In an accompanying letter,
Speaker 3: in a letter a company the two reports, doctor Alan Garber,
Speaker 3: Harvard's president, apologized for the problems the task force revealed
Speaker 3: the task forces revealed. He said, the Hamas attack on
Speaker 3: Israel in twenty twenty three and the war that followed
Speaker 3: had brought long simmering tensions to the surface, and he
Speaker 3: promised to address them. According to his letter quote, the
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three twenty twenty four academic year was disappointing
Speaker 3: and painful. Doctor Garber, who took office in January of
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, wrote in the letter quote, I'm sorry
Speaker 3: for the moments that we failed to meet the high
Speaker 3: expectations we rightfully set out for our community. He continued, quote,
Speaker 3: Harvard cannot and will not abide bigotry. This is fascinating
Speaker 3: because yesterday Harvard decided to rename its Office of Equity, Diversity, Inclusion,
Speaker 3: and Belonging to Community and Campus Life. Now, all of
Speaker 3: this against the backdrop of the Trump administration threatening nine
Speaker 3: billion dollars of research funding, withholding nine billion dollars nine
Speaker 3: billion dollars of research funding and uh and also withholding
Speaker 3: about I guess two point five million dollars. Here's a
Speaker 3: couple of the examples from these reports. Now, this is
Speaker 3: a report that Harvard, you know, requested this talkt The
Speaker 3: Anti Semitism Report recounted an episode of which a student
Speaker 3: asked not to work with an Israeli partner. That's pretty good,
Speaker 3: I don't want to work with my partner because he
Speaker 3: or she's Israeli, and an instructor granted the request because,
Speaker 3: in their view, a student who supported the cause of
Speaker 3: an oppressed group should not be forced to work with
Speaker 3: a student identify as a member of the oppressor group.
Speaker 3: This is what the left does all the time, the
Speaker 3: oppressors and the oppressed. In another episode in the report,
Speaker 3: a recently admitted medical student recounted arriving for a visitation
Speaker 3: day and encountering students yelling Free Palestine from a walkway,
Speaker 3: apparently to discover Zionists, which really means Jews or Israelis
Speaker 3: from attending the school. After October seventh, the report said,
Speaker 3: there was an avalanche of posts by members of the
Speaker 3: Harvard community trafficking in anti Semitic tropes. Jewish student told
Speaker 3: stories of university run training sessions above Privilege in which
Speaker 3: they were being told that being Jewish made them more
Speaker 3: privileged than being white. Israeli students felt shunned some people
Speaker 3: upon learning that I'm Israeli. One student said, tell me
Speaker 3: they won't talk with someone from a genocidal country an
Speaker 3: undergraduates quota that's at Harvard. That's at Harvard. The more
Speaker 3: time we spent on this problem, the more we learned
Speaker 3: how demonization of Israel has impacted a much wider swath
Speaker 3: of campus life than we could have imagined, the report said.
Speaker 3: It added, the bullying and attempts to intimidate Jewish students
Speaker 3: were in some places successful. Now. In addition to the
Speaker 3: ninety two percent of Muslim respondents who worried about expressing
Speaker 3: their views, fifty one percent of Christian respondents and sixty
Speaker 3: one percent of Jewish respondents they felt the same way.
Speaker 3: Freedom of Russian is one of the most critical issues
Speaker 3: facing the entire Harvard campus community. The Anti Muslim Bias
Speaker 3: Task Force said this was just interesting and then just
Speaker 3: finally here. According to this article of the Times, This
Speaker 3: is the Times, the Trump administration demanded that Harvard institute
Speaker 3: merit based hiring and admissions reform. Why would the merit
Speaker 3: why would the hiring and admissions reform be anything but
Speaker 3: merit based, meaning without regard to race, religion, sex, and
Speaker 3: national origin. And it demanded an outside audit of the
Speaker 3: student body, faculty, staff, and leadership for viewpoint diversity within
Speaker 3: each department, field, or teaching unit. It called for an
Speaker 3: outside audit of programs that most fuel antisemitic harassment or
Speaker 3: reflect ideological capture, specifying the divinity, education and public health schools,
Speaker 3: among others, as centers of concern. This is all at Harvard,
Speaker 3: and it called for sanctions against faculty members who discriminated
Speaker 3: against Jewish students or incited protests that broke campus rules.
Speaker 3: Doctor Garber said the university's deans were reviewing recommendations concerning admissions, appointments, curriculum,
Speaker 3: and orientation and training programs. He also promised a university
Speaker 3: wide initiative to promote and support viewpoint diversity. Well good
Speaker 3: for Harvard if they followed through on that, and they
Speaker 3: took I think a step in the right direction by
Speaker 3: renaming its Office of Equity, Diversity, Inclusion, and Belonging to
Speaker 3: Community and campus life. That may be mere simp semantics,
Speaker 3: but I think it's important. And again, this is this
Speaker 3: is Harvard University that is off the rails? What sort
Speaker 3: of an institution was Claudine Gay running? Okay, got to
Speaker 3: take a break. Phone calls six seven, two, five, four
Speaker 3: ten thirty, six, seven, one thirty. I am with Harvey Silverglade.
Speaker 3: I am not comfortable with any administration with holding funding.
Speaker 3: But I do think that the bully pullet of the
Speaker 3: White House, of the of the the Resolute Desk, and
Speaker 3: the Oval Office should be able to be utilized by
Speaker 3: a president to demand that the great universities in this
Speaker 3: country comply with standards of decency and fairness and make
Speaker 3: these institutions a petri dish of competing ideas so that
Speaker 3: when people can go to the university via points of
Speaker 3: view can be respected. Now, I understand that there are
Speaker 3: points of view on various extreme streams. I'm not suggesting
Speaker 3: that I want Harvard to submit neo Nazis, or do
Speaker 3: I want Harvard to submit cuckoo birds on the fire
Speaker 3: are left hamas members. No, that's not what we're talking about.
Speaker 3: We're talking about that that that large swath of people
Speaker 3: who should go to universities and learn that there are
Speaker 3: other people just like them who have different points of
Speaker 3: view and there should be mutual respect. That is what
Speaker 3: a university should be about. That's the tradition of universities.
Speaker 3: How we ever got to this place off the rails,
Speaker 3: God only knows, but it is time to get back
Speaker 3: to what universities in this country are supposed to be,
Speaker 3: and that is education centers competing ideas. I've referred to
Speaker 3: it as a petri dish of competing ideas where people
Speaker 3: are respected and there is debate and discussion, and that
Speaker 3: that that there be an effort to make sure that professors,
Speaker 3: particularly what we call the soft scientists sociology and things
Speaker 3: like that, psychology, that they are are different viewpoints. Mathemat
Speaker 3: addicts a lot of science. Two and two will always
Speaker 3: before you can argue two and two is going to
Speaker 3: be five. Okay, that's that's irrelevant. But you don't bring
Speaker 3: politics into into the math classroom. I have one open
Speaker 3: line at six one, seven, nine, ten thirty. I think
Speaker 3: you just heard a great hour of radio with the
Speaker 3: students from Harvard, the writer from the Boston Globe, and
Speaker 3: Harvey Silverglade. We will probably repeat that hour. I'm going
Speaker 3: to ask Marita to use that hour uh in one
Speaker 3: of our Sunday Night best of broadcast upcoming, but you
Speaker 3: could if you miss that hour, you can go tomorrow
Speaker 3: to Nightside and demand, or actually anytime probably after three
Speaker 3: o'clock this morning and listen to it, particularly if you're
Speaker 3: an insomniac. We'll be back on nights Side right after this.
Speaker 3: All points of view are welcome.
Speaker 1: Let's have at it night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ,
Speaker 1: Boston's news radio.
Speaker 3: All right, let's get to the phones and have at it.
Speaker 3: I think my audience understands what we're talking about. Let
Speaker 3: me go to Bill in Pennsylvania. Bill, you were next
Speaker 3: one night Side. Welcome first this hour.
Speaker 4: Oh thanks Dan. Hey. I don't know about the rest
Speaker 4: of the country, but where I live, I haven't seen
Speaker 4: I was watching the news today off and on Dan
Speaker 4: and every one of these legacy media people are saying
Speaker 4: prices are up, prices are up, prices are up. That's
Speaker 4: all I heard. Of course, I didn't there any any
Speaker 4: good news. As matter of fact, they had a thing.
Speaker 4: I think they they didn't want to put it up,
Speaker 4: but they got up there somehow. Since the first hundred
Speaker 4: days of Trump's presidency, ninety two percent of all of
Speaker 4: Harden legacy media has been negative for Trump. But where
Speaker 4: I live, okay, I can get I can get eggs
Speaker 4: any day, okay for three point fifty a dozen. I
Speaker 4: can get gas for I can get gas for three
Speaker 4: dollars and nineteen cents.
Speaker 3: Well, I could beat you out of gast. We got
Speaker 3: gas prices here well below two dollars here in Massachusetts
Speaker 3: two eighty two seventy five, So gas prices are definitely down.
Speaker 3: Gas prices being down should reduce the cost of everything
Speaker 3: that is shipped by truck. There's nothing that you or
Speaker 3: I buying a store that gets there other than buy
Speaker 3: a vehicle. No one's carrying you know, milk or groceries,
Speaker 3: or clothing items or sporting goods on their back. It's
Speaker 3: all being shipped. So yeah, I don't understand it either.
Speaker 3: Try the Boston Globe. The Boston Globe. Every day it's
Speaker 3: got another headline, and I probably during the break, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna go down and get it. It's just amazing. They
Speaker 3: just continued this drum beat, not only on the op
Speaker 3: ed pages, but on the front page, on the middle page.
Speaker 3: You know, yesterday you're from Pennsylvania, the Philadelphia Eagles and
Speaker 3: mass went and visited the White House. Remember two years
Speaker 3: ago the Eagles or three years ago, whichever it was,
Speaker 3: the Eagles chose not to go to the wins. It
Speaker 3: was a huge story. Well it was actually during Trump's
Speaker 3: first term. Actually huge story today. The Globe never mentioned.
Speaker 3: It didn't happen as far as the Globe was concerned,
Speaker 3: you know, I mean.
Speaker 4: Yeah, when we say yeah, you're right, Dan, when we
Speaker 4: say free and pree and fair press. Okay, I don't
Speaker 4: know what what has happened to journalism? Okay, but I
Speaker 4: think get this hate stuff, Okay, this hate Trump stuff
Speaker 4: is actually backfiring. There's nobody here where I live, okay,
Speaker 4: talking about tariffs. Nobody, all right, absolutely nobody. I get around.
Speaker 4: I put a lot of miles on my car all
Speaker 4: over the place. Hey, by the way, the reason why,
Speaker 4: the reason why our tax are gas prices. We have
Speaker 4: the highest Pennsylvan We have the highest state tax on
Speaker 4: gas that any We're number one in the hulk in
Speaker 4: the whole nation.
Speaker 3: I think you're about sixty eight cents.
Speaker 4: A gallon on unbelievable combination.
Speaker 3: Of state in federal taxes. Here in Massachusetts. I think
Speaker 3: we're less than that. We're like somewhere around fifty four
Speaker 3: or fifty six cents.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I have a theory, okay, and I think
Speaker 4: that I think that Elon Musk and his Musketeers as
Speaker 4: they call him over in CNN, I think I think
Speaker 4: they went in there. I think they went in there
Speaker 4: for a fact finding mission. I don't think their mission
Speaker 4: was the cut Okay, at trillion they said first, two
Speaker 4: trillion and the Troy. I think their mission was to
Speaker 4: get in there and find out things that are just unbelievable.
Speaker 4: And I think that it was a fact finding the missions.
Speaker 4: It was like a reconnaissance mission.
Speaker 3: Dan Well, I don't know. I would say this. Whatever
Speaker 3: they have found, they haven't publicized especially well. And I
Speaker 3: keep looking for a lot of this stuff. I know
Speaker 3: there are websites there, but there should be some media
Speaker 3: that could that could do a better job saying Okay,
Speaker 3: here's what they found, here's what they didn't find. I
Speaker 3: think that that underground cave out in your neck of
Speaker 3: the woods in Pennsylvania, where all the SO Security records
Speaker 3: are kept in file folders, yeah, was extraordinary that that
Speaker 3: obviously is nineteen sixties technology. It looks like my basement
Speaker 3: where I keep file cabinets, so you would think that
Speaker 3: the government would have got a little bit more modern
Speaker 3: than that bill. I got to get one more in
Speaker 3: here before the break. Thanks for getting going. Appreciated very much.
Speaker 3: Let's keep rolling here, going to go next to Dan
Speaker 3: in San Francisco. Dan, you were next on NIGHTSAGA, right.
Speaker 4: Ahead, Yeah, Hey, Dan, I just wanted to comment on
Speaker 4: the first hundred days of Trump and I just see
Speaker 4: failure all over the place. You know, I'm an anti
Speaker 4: Trump guy.
Speaker 3: Sure, so let me ask you. Let me play a
Speaker 3: little devil's advocate. Okay, how would you how would you
Speaker 3: give him? What sort of a gray would you give him?
Speaker 3: On tightening up the United States southern border?
Speaker 4: Let's see there. Okay, so the border crossings are way down.
Speaker 4: But in order to do that, he has been haphazardly
Speaker 4: arresting and deporting people around the country like.
Speaker 3: Members.
Speaker 4: Right, No, he has it, he has it. Was Abrego
Speaker 4: Garcia a gang member?
Speaker 3: Yes, yes he was. How much do you know about
Speaker 3: a brig.
Speaker 4: To be a gang member? Hold On? Was not?
Speaker 3: Hold On? He was stopped in Tennessee trafficking people, Okay
Speaker 3: he was. He was ordered to leave the country. Okay,
Speaker 3: I mean you know they picked a bad example. Now,
Speaker 3: did he get the due process that you and I
Speaker 3: would have liked to have seen. I will agree with
Speaker 3: you on that it would have been better in his
Speaker 3: circumstance to bring him in back into immigration court. Uh.
Speaker 3: And the the deportation order I think was issued in
Speaker 3: twenty nineteen. Obviously that was not executed. And do I
Speaker 3: think that at some point he should have been brought in. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I will go with you on that. But the two
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty or so people who were picked up,
Speaker 3: they picked up a whole bunch of people at an
Speaker 3: underground nightclub in Colorado Springs over the weekend, gang members
Speaker 3: of Trente de Agua. Did you see any of that
Speaker 3: coverage or no? That's been a major story.
Speaker 4: I saw the coverage, and I saw the coverage of
Speaker 4: the other people that they already deported. And the judge said, no,
Speaker 4: you have to turn the plane around, and Trump he
Speaker 4: disobeyed the judge's order.
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, Trump didn't hold Dan Dan. You're
Speaker 3: misstating facts. Okay, you have missstating facts. The plane was
Speaker 3: in the air on his way to El Salvador before
Speaker 3: the judge's order was issued. Verbally from the bench it
Speaker 3: was on a Saturday night, Okay, you would have a
Speaker 3: much stronger case if the judge issued the order, the
Speaker 3: written order on Monday morning and the plane took off
Speaker 3: in defiance at that order on a Wednesday afternoon. I mean,
Speaker 3: you're a good guy, and I just want to tell
Speaker 3: you that. Here's my question. We have twenty million people
Speaker 3: in the country illegally. Okay, there's probably somewhere about a
Speaker 3: million of them who have some serious criminology, crime backgrounds,
Speaker 3: members of gangs, etc. In your world? Are you going
Speaker 3: to give a full blown immigration trial to people who
Speaker 3: you know are gang members and are here and have
Speaker 3: committed crimes? How do you deal with that amount of
Speaker 3: individual cases? Is that realistic?
Speaker 4: Do you think they're entitled to due process? Then?
Speaker 3: Well, the question is this, they're entitled to do process?
Speaker 3: What level of due process is what I'm asking you.
Speaker 3: If a full blown immigration trial for let us say
Speaker 3: one of these, every one of these gang members who
Speaker 3: have committed serious crimes in this country, Let's let's say
Speaker 3: it's a week, Okay, how many weeks will it take
Speaker 3: to get a million people out of the country who
Speaker 3: I think you ain't even agree with me. Don't deserve
Speaker 3: to be there. They've come in here illegally. They are members.
Speaker 3: You're familiar with what MS thirteen is, correct? I hope yes.
Speaker 3: Do you want let me ask you this, do you
Speaker 3: dan honest question? Give me an honest answer. Do you
Speaker 3: want members of MS thirteen living in your neighborhood in
Speaker 3: San Francisco? Yes? Or no?
Speaker 4: Dan, I want the law to be followed.
Speaker 3: My question is this question. I want the law to
Speaker 3: be followed. To Dan, we can get to the interpretation
Speaker 3: of the law in a moment. Do you want members
Speaker 3: of MS thirteen to be living in your neighborhood? Do
Speaker 3: you want members of Trente Deragua to be living in
Speaker 3: your neighborhood. I'm not talking about some guy who's come
Speaker 3: across the border and has lived here for fifteen years,
Speaker 3: and and and you know is uh Is is living
Speaker 3: a normal life. Let's focus on the bad ombrace. Do
Speaker 3: you want them living in your neighborhood while it's adjudicated,
Speaker 3: you know, one by one? Just yes, yes or no?
Speaker 3: If you want that, fess up to it and tell
Speaker 3: me that you want them to have absolute, the same
Speaker 3: full rights that any American US born citizen would have.
Speaker 4: They are entitled, Yes, they are entitled.
Speaker 3: So in the meantime, you'll accept them living. You want
Speaker 3: them living in your neighborhood.
Speaker 4: Correct, it's their gang members. I want them arrested, but
Speaker 4: I don't want them to.
Speaker 3: Do whoa whah, whoa whoa what about Now? Wait a second,
Speaker 3: let's talk about let's talk about presumption of innocence. Okay,
Speaker 3: they're arrested as a gang member. You're gonna get bail.
Speaker 3: Of course they're gonna get bail. They're not leaving. Think
Speaker 3: what you say you got, you got? You have got
Speaker 3: different cloud. You got twenty million people who are here illegally.
Speaker 3: How do you deal with the one million who were
Speaker 3: really problems? How do you deal with the people who
Speaker 3: killed Lincoln Riley? How do you deal with the people
Speaker 3: that killed Rachel Moore? And how do you deal with
Speaker 3: those people? We got a problem with.
Speaker 4: What did she do? Why is she in prison?
Speaker 3: On that one, I'm going to agree with you. Now
Speaker 3: I'm going to surprise you. I thought one that's bad
Speaker 3: optics Number one. I've actually read the article that she
Speaker 3: co authored in the Tough newspaper. Have you read that article?
Speaker 4: Yes? I did.
Speaker 3: There was nothing in that article. I disagree with it,
Speaker 3: but there was nothing in that article where she called for,
Speaker 3: you know, she supported you know, terrorism in the country
Speaker 3: or anything like that. It was It was an article
Speaker 3: that could have been written by a high school junior
Speaker 3: if they got something on her. The mistake the Trump
Speaker 3: administration makes is let us know what it is. She
Speaker 3: should not have been in that first cut. I want
Speaker 3: the gang members out of here, like yesterday, call me.
Speaker 4: In jail, Dan. Why is that it's been more than
Speaker 4: a month.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know why it is. And I think
Speaker 3: that the Trump administration is losing political capital when you
Speaker 3: hold someone like her in jail. At the same time,
Speaker 3: the fact that a plane is in the air and
Speaker 3: some judge in Virginia, Maryland or Washington, DC issues a
Speaker 3: verbal order Saturday night at six thirty after the plane
Speaker 3: has taken off, What do they think they're gonna do
Speaker 3: based upon this one federal judge, You're going to turn
Speaker 3: a plane around? I don't think so. It wasn't even
Speaker 3: in the US air space where that was issued.
Speaker 4: Why is a Brago Garcia still in jail? Trump? He
Speaker 4: could make one phone call down to Here's.
Speaker 3: What I'd like to see happen. Okay, here's what I'd
Speaker 3: like to see happen. I would like to see him.
Speaker 3: I would like to see Trump. I would like to
Speaker 3: see Trump send Air Force one down there or US
Speaker 3: military jet, bring him back, drag him into courtroom, have
Speaker 3: the hearing, and get him back to El Salvador tomorrow night.
Speaker 3: That's what i'd love to see in the in a
Speaker 3: perfect world. Unfortunately it's not a perfect world. Then I
Speaker 3: gotta run.
Speaker 4: He doesn't want it to be. The cruelty is the point,
Speaker 4: That's what it is. He just wants to see again.
Speaker 3: I just think that your position is you think Trump's
Speaker 3: position is unreasonable. You put me in a position of
Speaker 3: defending Trump, which I think is you know, you wouldn't
Speaker 3: even say that you wanted these bad people out of
Speaker 3: your neighborhood. You don't care. Good luck to you, Dan.
Speaker 3: I hope you don't become a victim of an M's
Speaker 3: thirteen member or or a Trente Deragua member because and
Speaker 3: I mean, they.
Speaker 4: Don't swiped up by Ice or somebody who doesn't like
Speaker 4: what I say or write, because that's exactly what happened
Speaker 4: to Romeo Uster.
Speaker 3: You're a United States do you do? You really do?
Speaker 3: Are you losing any sleep to think that you're going
Speaker 3: to be swept up by ice? Dan, come on, be real.
Speaker 4: Hey, hey look, he said that he was going to
Speaker 4: go after home grown.
Speaker 3: Yeah right.
Speaker 4: At a press conference, he.
Speaker 3: Also yeah, yeah, he trolls people like you. Dan, He's
Speaker 3: he's renting, he's he's living in your head, rent free.
Speaker 3: Don't let him do that with a hot mic.
Speaker 4: Are you denying? He said that, He said it in
Speaker 4: he said in an interview.
Speaker 3: You don't. You don't understand Donald Trump. Okay, he will
Speaker 3: say weird, crazy things, and all it does is it
Speaker 3: drives people like you, good people like you on the
Speaker 3: left crazy. Dan. I gotta run. We've gone got to go, Dan,
Speaker 3: We've done eight minutes. Yeah he does. He does. You
Speaker 3: know who who has deported more people than Donald Trump as.
Speaker 4: President Joe Biden, Barack Obama.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he deported three million. I didn't hear anybody process.
Speaker 3: I'm sure every one of them had a full deportation hearing.
Speaker 3: I don't think so. Thanks, Dan, have a great night
Speaker 3: coming back right after the news. Oh boy, it's gonna
Speaker 3: be one of those nights on night Side. Let's keep
Speaker 3: it going.
Speaker 1: You're on night Side with news radio.
Speaker 3: Boy, what a tragedy that little boy five years old
Speaker 3: killed a school bus. You know, don't know the circumstances
Speaker 3: of it, don't know if the driver was paying attention.
Speaker 3: The driver might have been paying attention, who knows. But
Speaker 3: I mean, just where is a parent? Where's someone? Why
Speaker 3: is a five year old kid getting off a school
Speaker 3: bus unaccompanied? That should not happen. That should not happen.
Speaker 3: Back to the calls, we go, Where we're gonna go next?
Speaker 3: Let me go to will and Long Island will next
Speaker 3: on Nightside. Welcome, Hey Dan.
Speaker 5: Every time I hear something like that about a kid,
Speaker 5: it's just I have kids that are young, and it
Speaker 5: just makes me here. When I heard Sandy Hook, I
Speaker 5: had to stop my car and pull over and and
Speaker 5: cry for them. When you have kids, you can't imagine.
Speaker 5: I'm sure anybody can have that type of amstpathy, but
Speaker 5: when you hear kids and you have kids, it just
Speaker 5: you can't help but picture your own kids. So I
Speaker 5: obviously pray for that family. When you talk about the
Speaker 5: legal immigrants and due process, we need to explain what
Speaker 5: the due process is. Okay, The due process is actually
Speaker 5: pretty simple you are not guaranteed a deportation hearing. You
Speaker 5: actually can have expedited removal based on certain criteria, and
Speaker 5: one of those criteria is entering the country without proper
Speaker 5: documentation or violating your visa. Then you could get into
Speaker 5: the visa area by saying the DHS has absolutely every
Speaker 5: right to revoke your visa for any reason, which means
Speaker 5: no reason. They don't need a reason, and it's not
Speaker 5: subject to judicial review. So if the Trump administration like
Speaker 5: the one that you say the political capital, I understand
Speaker 5: where you're coming from with that. But the girl that
Speaker 5: wrote the article that you know, it wasn't that damning,
Speaker 5: but the administration yank tr visa first, Now she's here illegally.
Speaker 5: Now she may need a deportation hearing because they yank
Speaker 5: her visa. Right, But if you catch someone that's here
Speaker 5: illegally and they crossed over the Rio Grande or however
Speaker 5: they got and they got smuggled in or whatever, it
Speaker 5: is just not having the documentation is enough for expedited removal.
Speaker 5: So these people that are talking about due process, they
Speaker 5: don't know what the due process is for these people.
Speaker 5: It's not the same as if you commit a murder
Speaker 5: and then you have to have a trial by jury go.
Speaker 3: Ahead as an American citizen. Sure. But the other thing
Speaker 3: that I think is important is that, for example, the
Speaker 3: guy at Columbia, who they I think have proven pretty
Speaker 3: completely by the people up and right. Well beyond riling
Speaker 3: people up, you get into speech area. But when you
Speaker 3: start to block people's passage, when you start to break
Speaker 3: into buildings, when you start to lock buildings from the inside,
Speaker 3: when you hold custodians captive, or that's the equivalent of kidnapping.
Speaker 3: The problem is that you have the people who want
Speaker 3: to wear their hearts and their slave. Okay, I'm empathetic
Speaker 3: to people who come here, even if they come here illegally,
Speaker 3: I'm not happy about it, and who are coming here
Speaker 3: to make a better life. I want them to go
Speaker 3: through a process. But I want to get every gang member,
Speaker 3: I want to get every potential terrorist. I want to
Speaker 3: get every potential hijacker out of the country like yesterday,
Speaker 3: And yeah, I don't need the ACLU governing up the
Speaker 3: works and spending either taxpayers money or money that people
Speaker 3: are contributed to some of these organizations to just go
Speaker 3: in there and and file motions and file appearances, because again,
Speaker 3: due process for you and me as citizens is one thing,
Speaker 3: but the definition of due process that you've outlined for
Speaker 3: someone who's here illegally from from Jump Street is quite different, right.
Speaker 5: And it all actually relates, you know, back to the
Speaker 5: shift that you've seen towards the left and college campuses
Speaker 5: with their professors. I mean, Harvard's sitting there saying, oh,
Speaker 5: we didn't know we hired these people that are or
Speaker 5: we're sorry we hired these people that had these anti
Speaker 5: Semitic views and stuff like that. First off, you have
Speaker 5: literal Nazis speaking on your campus, you know, in the
Speaker 5: nineteen thirties. You know, you have a long history of
Speaker 5: anti Semitism. But besides even the anti semitism, Ronald Reagan
Speaker 5: put it the best when he told I think it
Speaker 5: was at Berkeley or something, and he said, this all
Speaker 5: happened when people that knew better told young people that
Speaker 5: they can commit violence as long as they did it
Speaker 5: in the name of social protests. And this is not correct. Okay,
Speaker 5: we have a whole group of people in this country
Speaker 5: that are educating our future educators. I look at it
Speaker 5: like this is the tree bearing its rotten fruit. This
Speaker 5: has been going on for one hundred years.
Speaker 3: I hope you'll listen to at the nine o'clock hour tonight,
Speaker 3: and if you haven't, you should go back and listen
Speaker 3: to it.
Speaker 4: To me, I'm going to go back and listen.
Speaker 5: I was actually in the hospital. My little son broke
Speaker 5: his nose, so that was a whole other thing.
Speaker 3: You know, going to be okay.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's going to be okay. But we'll be at
Speaker 5: the endt tomorrow. But anytime you have silverglade on, I,
Speaker 5: you know, like listen. I agree with him on so
Speaker 5: many things. I even agree with him when I disagree
Speaker 5: with him, because I feel that two people can disagree
Speaker 5: and we can have a debate about the issues and
Speaker 5: not have to hate each other and not have to
Speaker 5: demonize the other. We just see things from a different perspective.
Speaker 5: Like you said before, you know, I don't believe in
Speaker 5: holding up funding for these institutions, and I don't believe
Speaker 5: that there should be funding for a private institution, to
Speaker 5: be honest.
Speaker 3: I think that's the threshold question about what with it Now.
Speaker 3: We get a lot of the institutions. The money that
Speaker 3: goes to Harvard is what they call pass through. That
Speaker 3: a lot of it goes to Harvard Hospital, Harvard affiliated
Speaker 3: hospital that are doing research. So it's you know, why
Speaker 3: the money has to go through Harvard. Why not just
Speaker 3: send it if you want to do research directly to
Speaker 3: the hospitals.
Speaker 5: Why, well, you know, and why why aren't we watching that?
Speaker 5: Why aren't we monitoring that? Why aren't we having people
Speaker 5: investigate that and just asking where the money's going? There's
Speaker 5: nothing wrong with that, just like we're doing, or we
Speaker 5: wanted to do in the Ukraine. Where is our money going?
Speaker 5: You know, that's what Doze is there for to find
Speaker 5: out where this money is going.
Speaker 3: And it's a talk with Bill from Pennsylvania, that underground
Speaker 3: mind that was converted into this this storage place for
Speaker 3: social security records, the hard copy records in these air
Speaker 3: conditioned rooms with filing cabinets. Upon filing cabinets. I mean,
Speaker 3: you see the ads on TV these days where the
Speaker 3: guy is walking by he says, that's that's my lawyer's office.
Speaker 3: They have a file system from the nineteen sixties and
Speaker 3: oh yeah, they got my social security member. They could
Speaker 3: have done that about the social Security system. It's in
Speaker 3: this mine somewhere in western Pennsylvania. Well, I'll give you
Speaker 3: a find a word. But I got to jump here
Speaker 3: because I'm way past my break. Go ahead.
Speaker 5: When I was young, we were worried about the pork
Speaker 5: Bower spending, when we were spending one hundred dollars on
Speaker 5: a hammer and giving out government contracts to companies, and
Speaker 5: we felt like there was some type of kickbacks going on.
Speaker 5: And of course with lobbying, it's pretty simple to do that.
Speaker 5: You don'ate money to a campaign and all of a
Speaker 5: sudden you get these favoral contacts. But today, the type
Speaker 5: of spending that we're seeing for you know, sex changes
Speaker 5: on mice and and for you know, for you know,
Speaker 5: transgender issues in the poll and all this nonsense. I mean,
Speaker 5: we're talking about billions of dollars that are just being
Speaker 5: spent on things that the American people do not support.
Speaker 5: And now I'm glad that eighty million people don't agree
Speaker 5: with your buddy over there in San Francisco, who I
Speaker 5: guess is used to living in a place that has
Speaker 5: poop maps to tell you where you can walk because
Speaker 5: the rest of the country does not want their model
Speaker 5: in San Francisco.
Speaker 3: Got it all right? Got it? Thanks will touch you soon.
Speaker 3: Take a quick break, got a couple of open lines,
Speaker 3: one at six one seven, nine, three one ten thirty
Speaker 3: and one at six one seven, two, five four ten thirty.
Speaker 3: I got Gary and Donna coming up room for you.
Speaker 3: I want to continue to talk about this, or we
Speaker 3: may just peer with to your critique of the first
Speaker 3: hundred days of the Trump administration, which might be a
Speaker 3: bit of a different conversation. Coming back on Night's Side
Speaker 3: right after this.
Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on ws Boston's news radio.
Speaker 3: All right, let's keep rolling here, going to go to
Speaker 3: Donna and framing him. Donna, welcome back. How are you.
Speaker 4: Good? I think I must have called in a wrong
Speaker 4: hour because I thought you were doing the first hundred days.
Speaker 3: Well you could you could comment on the first hundred days.
Speaker 4: If you'd like, right ahead, Okay, the imrogration stuff. I
Speaker 4: have no issue with what I don't like so far,
Speaker 4: I can keep it pretty concise. Sure, if I didn't
Speaker 4: like it, I did not like it when the President
Speaker 4: said during the campaign, I am your retribution. So people
Speaker 4: seem to forget how on day one or two he
Speaker 4: pardoned all the J six criminals. Yet Christopher Krebs, who
Speaker 4: worked for Trump during the twenty twenty election, whose expertise
Speaker 4: with cybersecurity and so forth and so on, said it
Speaker 4: was a fair election and that Trump lost, so he
Speaker 4: wants the Jay sisters out of prison and Chris Cribbs
Speaker 4: in prison.
Speaker 3: I'm not familiar with the Chris Krebbs case, and I
Speaker 3: don't think most of our audience is familiar with the case.
Speaker 3: I have no idea what he is being accused of.
Speaker 3: Is he being and has he been indicted or arrested
Speaker 3: or charging.
Speaker 4: Trump has said on several instances through the Justice Department
Speaker 4: that he wants to go after Chris Krebbs because he
Speaker 4: said the election of twenty twenty I had.
Speaker 3: To say that. But Donna, Donald Trump can say he
Speaker 3: wants to go after you because you have green eyes
Speaker 3: as opposed to brown eyes. He could say anything he wants, Okay,
Speaker 3: is Chris Cribs. I have no idea who Chris Cribs is.
Speaker 3: There was a basketball player who's favor.
Speaker 4: I'm surprised you don't know who he is. I've seen
Speaker 4: him multiple times over during the twenty twenty election, and
Speaker 4: I have.
Speaker 3: No idea, Donna, I have no idea. What do you
Speaker 3: want me to say to you? I don't know who
Speaker 3: he is, you know, I mean he could have he
Speaker 3: said he wants to run for president in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 3: Are you losing sleep over that?
Speaker 4: No, but I'm I don't like it when the J
Speaker 4: six is he wants to kick out and for somebody
Speaker 4: who is that said the election.
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, I understand the point you made. I understand
Speaker 3: the point you made. You listen to my program. You
Speaker 3: know that I was critical of Trump. He should not
Speaker 3: have There were some of the J six people who
Speaker 3: had liked, you know, walked onto the steps, elderly couples
Speaker 3: who had thought that they could walk into the Capitol.
Speaker 3: Anyone who engaged in any sort of physical altercation should
Speaker 3: not have been pardoned. There's no question about that. I've
Speaker 3: said it twenty times. I'll say it twenty more times
Speaker 3: if you want so. You don't have a fight for
Speaker 3: me there. But if I tell you I don't know
Speaker 3: who Chris Krebs is, I don't and I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: spend time talking about somebody I don't know who he
Speaker 3: is right now, and the fact now, if he's arrested somebody,
Speaker 3: I'll talk about the Turkish woman which I talked to
Speaker 3: with the gentleman from San Francisco. I'll talk about the
Speaker 3: guy at Columbia because I know who they are. I
Speaker 3: don't know who Chris Krebs is. I'm sorry, I wish
Speaker 3: I did. Okay.
Speaker 4: My point is January sixteen, I.
Speaker 3: Got January sixth I gotta keep rolling down and thank
Speaker 3: you for the call. Let's keep rolling here. Gonna go
Speaker 3: to Gary and Ubern. Gary, I gotta get you in
Speaker 3: here before the break.
Speaker 6: Go right ahead, Gary, Wow, is this an exciting show?
Speaker 6: Really has? I've said it again and again about you
Speaker 6: when you're talking about issues, the best politics stink. The
Speaker 6: fight you have in you tonight is just unbelievable. It's
Speaker 6: like WWF. But it's not conical. It's right money, especially
Speaker 6: with the call from San Francisco with that guy and
Speaker 6: so forth. And you have a rule don't put down
Speaker 6: callers and so forth. I'm not gonna put down him.
Speaker 6: But one thing I want to put up is Donald Trump.
Speaker 6: Why when he defends anti Semitism he should be put
Speaker 6: on a pedestal and why is it he put in place?
Speaker 4: Well, say, he.
Speaker 3: Doesn't defend anti semitism, he attacks anti semitism.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he attacks it.
Speaker 3: You said, defense. That's okay. I did. Yeah, Hey, Rob,
Speaker 3: you don't happen to have my introduction, my night side introduction,
Speaker 3: the one that we haven't used in a while. Do
Speaker 3: you know the one I'm talking about? I thought I
Speaker 3: could play that for for Gary. Here we're in this
Speaker 3: corner and in this corner you got it here? How
Speaker 3: quick can you get it? I want Gary to hear this.
Speaker 7: Ladies and gentlemen, please direct your ears to your radio
Speaker 7: listening to boys for some nice night side may events.
Speaker 3: In this corner we have.
Speaker 7: Political correctness, big business, Sonny say, and just stupidity hell corner.
Speaker 7: Who wearing the umask Boston Hoodie, your boy Hoyson and
Speaker 7: the semotest guy on radio.
Speaker 3: Man who I love that. I love that if you
Speaker 3: if we haven't used that in a wow, Gary, I
Speaker 3: thought you'd get a kick out of it.
Speaker 6: I did. I loved it. And uh question was Glenn
Speaker 6: at Naroli? Yes he was very good.
Speaker 3: But you but you weren't there? Unfortunately I was not.
Speaker 6: No, and one last thought you might be mad at me,
Speaker 6: but here it goes. You're the best of the business,
Speaker 6: there's no question. But I wish you would limit the
Speaker 6: callers because you're going off for ten minutes. I want
Speaker 6: to hear from a lot of callers. I thank you
Speaker 6: for your time.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Okay, we'll try to get one
Speaker 3: more caller in here. Let me see if I get Eileen. Eileen.
Speaker 3: I'm going to put you on and if we have
Speaker 3: to hold you over, go ahead, Eileen.
Speaker 4: Okay, Hello, Hi Eileen, go right ahead.
Speaker 8: Oh are you let me get my speaker.
Speaker 3: Okay, Oh, please don't go to the speakerphone, get it off, speaker.
Speaker 3: I want to hear your voice.
Speaker 8: That's I to do so anyway, question first, on money
Speaker 8: to have it, we asked you the right question. My
Speaker 8: question is why were they giving all this money in
Speaker 8: the first place. Out any.
Speaker 3: You're talking about money to Harvard University and other universities.
Speaker 8: The question is should I might be taken over to Harvard.
Speaker 8: The question should be why was the money given to Harvard?
Speaker 3: Well, I can tell you about the money. If you
Speaker 3: want an answer, I'll be happy to give you the
Speaker 3: answer that Harvard University other major colleges, they have what's
Speaker 3: called lobbyists, and it's Congress who passes pieces of legislation
Speaker 3: that over the years have become more and more generous
Speaker 3: in giving money to all sorts of institutions of higher learning,
Speaker 3: and some of the money passes through to medical institutions. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we could talk about that more. Whyn't you hold on?
Speaker 3: I'll keep you. I'll keep you. I don't want a
Speaker 3: short change. I'll catch you on the other side of
Speaker 3: the news. Fair enough, Okay, Okay, you stay right there.
Speaker 3: We'll pick you up on the other side of the news.
Speaker 3: If you'd like to join the conversation. Six seven thirty.
Speaker 3: I want to hear from you the Trump report card.
Speaker 3: Today is the one hundred days. We'll talk to Eileen
Speaker 3: about this, but I want want to hear your What
Speaker 3: sort of a report card would you give Donald Trump?
Speaker 3: You can give them a specific grade on a specific issue,
Speaker 3: or you can give them an overall grade. We're coming
Speaker 3: back on nightside light. The phone lines up back on
Speaker 3: nightside right after this