WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:05.480 It's Night Side with Dan Ray WBZ Constance News Radio. 2 00:00:06.639 --> 00:00:10.599 Before we get to the one hundred day report card 3 00:00:10.880 --> 00:00:13.759 on the Drump administration, I just wanted to point out 4 00:00:13.800 --> 00:00:17.839 today that there were two reports which were released today 5 00:00:17.879 --> 00:00:19.239 by a Harvard task force. 6 00:00:20.640 --> 00:00:25.719 Both of these reports were pretty damning towards Harvard. The 7 00:00:27.280 --> 00:00:33.600 one report was on the found that anti Semitism had infiltrated. 8 00:00:33.719 --> 00:00:36.840 Infiltrated is the word that was used. I'm reading here 9 00:00:36.880 --> 00:00:42.479 from an article that I have from the Boston is 10 00:00:42.520 --> 00:00:45.399 that the Boston Glover Associated Press. This is the New 11 00:00:45.479 --> 00:00:48.399 York Times. Excuse me. The Harvard task Force released a 12 00:00:48.479 --> 00:00:52.119 scathing report account of the university on Tuesday, finding that 13 00:00:52.200 --> 00:00:57.280 anti Semitism had infiltrated coursework, social life, the hiring of 14 00:00:57.359 --> 00:01:01.200 some faculty members, and the worldview of certain ex pademic programs. 15 00:01:01.640 --> 00:01:04.200 There was a separate report on anti Arab, anti Muslim, 16 00:01:04.239 --> 00:01:07.680 and anti Palestinian bias on campus, also released on Tuesday, 17 00:01:08.159 --> 00:01:12.319 that found widespread discomfort and alienation amongst those students as well, 18 00:01:12.879 --> 00:01:15.680 with ninety two percent of Muslim survey respondent saying they 19 00:01:15.719 --> 00:01:19.319 believed they would face an academic or professional penalty for 20 00:01:19.439 --> 00:01:25.760 expressing their political viewpoints. This is interesting. In an accompanying letter, 21 00:01:26.959 --> 00:01:29.959 in a letter a company the two reports, doctor Alan Garber, 22 00:01:30.040 --> 00:01:34.879 Harvard's president, apologized for the problems the task force revealed 23 00:01:34.959 --> 00:01:38.280 the task forces revealed. He said, the Hamas attack on 24 00:01:38.359 --> 00:01:41.200 Israel in twenty twenty three and the war that followed 25 00:01:41.239 --> 00:01:44.200 had brought long simmering tensions to the surface, and he 26 00:01:44.319 --> 00:01:47.599 promised to address them. According to his letter quote, the 27 00:01:47.680 --> 00:01:52.120 twenty twenty three twenty twenty four academic year was disappointing 28 00:01:52.159 --> 00:01:55.519 and painful. Doctor Garber, who took office in January of 29 00:01:55.560 --> 00:01:58.680 twenty twenty four, wrote in the letter quote, I'm sorry 30 00:01:58.680 --> 00:02:00.799 for the moments that we failed to meet the high 31 00:02:00.840 --> 00:02:06.079 expectations we rightfully set out for our community. He continued, quote, 32 00:02:06.239 --> 00:02:13.280 Harvard cannot and will not abide bigotry. This is fascinating 33 00:02:13.360 --> 00:02:20.439 because yesterday Harvard decided to rename its Office of Equity, Diversity, Inclusion, 34 00:02:20.599 --> 00:02:24.080 and Belonging to Community and Campus Life. Now, all of 35 00:02:24.080 --> 00:02:28.360 this against the backdrop of the Trump administration threatening nine 36 00:02:28.400 --> 00:02:33.280 billion dollars of research funding, withholding nine billion dollars nine 37 00:02:33.280 --> 00:02:39.000 billion dollars of research funding and uh and also withholding 38 00:02:39.199 --> 00:02:45.439 about I guess two point five million dollars. Here's a 39 00:02:45.439 --> 00:02:47.800 couple of the examples from these reports. Now, this is 40 00:02:47.840 --> 00:02:56.400 a report that Harvard, you know, requested this talkt The 41 00:02:56.479 --> 00:02:59.439 Anti Semitism Report recounted an episode of which a student 42 00:02:59.520 --> 00:03:05.080 asked not to work with an Israeli partner. That's pretty good, 43 00:03:05.319 --> 00:03:07.360 I don't want to work with my partner because he 44 00:03:07.479 --> 00:03:11.639 or she's Israeli, and an instructor granted the request because, 45 00:03:11.680 --> 00:03:14.680 in their view, a student who supported the cause of 46 00:03:14.719 --> 00:03:18.159 an oppressed group should not be forced to work with 47 00:03:18.199 --> 00:03:21.080 a student identify as a member of the oppressor group. 48 00:03:21.639 --> 00:03:23.960 This is what the left does all the time, the 49 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:28.280 oppressors and the oppressed. In another episode in the report, 50 00:03:28.439 --> 00:03:32.960 a recently admitted medical student recounted arriving for a visitation 51 00:03:33.120 --> 00:03:36.879 day and encountering students yelling Free Palestine from a walkway, 52 00:03:37.319 --> 00:03:43.919 apparently to discover Zionists, which really means Jews or Israelis 53 00:03:44.400 --> 00:03:50.919 from attending the school. After October seventh, the report said, 54 00:03:50.919 --> 00:03:53.800 there was an avalanche of posts by members of the 55 00:03:53.800 --> 00:04:00.439 Harvard community trafficking in anti Semitic tropes. Jewish student told 56 00:04:00.439 --> 00:04:05.120 stories of university run training sessions above Privilege in which 57 00:04:05.159 --> 00:04:08.199 they were being told that being Jewish made them more 58 00:04:08.199 --> 00:04:12.719 privileged than being white. Israeli students felt shunned some people 59 00:04:12.800 --> 00:04:16.000 upon learning that I'm Israeli. One student said, tell me 60 00:04:16.079 --> 00:04:19.319 they won't talk with someone from a genocidal country an 61 00:04:19.360 --> 00:04:26.600 undergraduates quota that's at Harvard. That's at Harvard. The more 62 00:04:26.680 --> 00:04:30.240 time we spent on this problem, the more we learned 63 00:04:30.279 --> 00:04:34.600 how demonization of Israel has impacted a much wider swath 64 00:04:34.720 --> 00:04:38.319 of campus life than we could have imagined, the report said. 65 00:04:38.360 --> 00:04:42.279 It added, the bullying and attempts to intimidate Jewish students 66 00:04:42.800 --> 00:04:46.879 were in some places successful. Now. In addition to the 67 00:04:47.000 --> 00:04:50.319 ninety two percent of Muslim respondents who worried about expressing 68 00:04:50.360 --> 00:04:54.839 their views, fifty one percent of Christian respondents and sixty 69 00:04:54.879 --> 00:04:58.639 one percent of Jewish respondents they felt the same way. 70 00:04:59.319 --> 00:05:01.759 Freedom of Russian is one of the most critical issues 71 00:05:01.759 --> 00:05:06.120 facing the entire Harvard campus community. The Anti Muslim Bias 72 00:05:06.240 --> 00:05:12.000 Task Force said this was just interesting and then just 73 00:05:12.079 --> 00:05:15.199 finally here. According to this article of the Times, This 74 00:05:15.319 --> 00:05:19.360 is the Times, the Trump administration demanded that Harvard institute 75 00:05:19.839 --> 00:05:25.600 merit based hiring and admissions reform. Why would the merit 76 00:05:25.680 --> 00:05:28.399 why would the hiring and admissions reform be anything but 77 00:05:28.600 --> 00:05:32.920 merit based, meaning without regard to race, religion, sex, and 78 00:05:33.000 --> 00:05:36.240 national origin. And it demanded an outside audit of the 79 00:05:36.279 --> 00:05:41.879 student body, faculty, staff, and leadership for viewpoint diversity within 80 00:05:41.959 --> 00:05:46.120 each department, field, or teaching unit. It called for an 81 00:05:46.120 --> 00:05:49.839 outside audit of programs that most fuel antisemitic harassment or 82 00:05:49.839 --> 00:05:55.600 reflect ideological capture, specifying the divinity, education and public health schools, 83 00:05:55.720 --> 00:05:59.199 among others, as centers of concern. This is all at Harvard, 84 00:05:59.519 --> 00:06:02.560 and it called for sanctions against faculty members who discriminated 85 00:06:02.600 --> 00:06:06.360 against Jewish students or incited protests that broke campus rules. 86 00:06:06.920 --> 00:06:14.160 Doctor Garber said the university's deans were reviewing recommendations concerning admissions, appointments, curriculum, 87 00:06:14.360 --> 00:06:18.600 and orientation and training programs. He also promised a university 88 00:06:18.639 --> 00:06:23.519 wide initiative to promote and support viewpoint diversity. Well good 89 00:06:23.560 --> 00:06:27.399 for Harvard if they followed through on that, and they 90 00:06:27.399 --> 00:06:29.720 took I think a step in the right direction by 91 00:06:29.759 --> 00:06:33.680 renaming its Office of Equity, Diversity, Inclusion, and Belonging to 92 00:06:33.800 --> 00:06:37.240 Community and campus life. That may be mere simp semantics, 93 00:06:37.439 --> 00:06:41.839 but I think it's important. And again, this is this 94 00:06:41.920 --> 00:06:48.720 is Harvard University that is off the rails? What sort 95 00:06:48.759 --> 00:06:52.879 of an institution was Claudine Gay running? Okay, got to 96 00:06:52.920 --> 00:06:57.360 take a break. Phone calls six seven, two, five, four 97 00:06:57.680 --> 00:07:03.199 ten thirty, six, seven, one thirty. I am with Harvey Silverglade. 98 00:07:03.240 --> 00:07:09.279 I am not comfortable with any administration with holding funding. 99 00:07:09.920 --> 00:07:12.680 But I do think that the bully pullet of the 100 00:07:12.720 --> 00:07:16.759 White House, of the of the the Resolute Desk, and 101 00:07:16.800 --> 00:07:20.839 the Oval Office should be able to be utilized by 102 00:07:20.920 --> 00:07:26.120 a president to demand that the great universities in this 103 00:07:26.279 --> 00:07:35.560 country comply with standards of decency and fairness and make 104 00:07:35.839 --> 00:07:41.120 these institutions a petri dish of competing ideas so that 105 00:07:41.160 --> 00:07:44.879 when people can go to the university via points of 106 00:07:44.959 --> 00:07:48.120 view can be respected. Now, I understand that there are 107 00:07:48.160 --> 00:07:52.759 points of view on various extreme streams. I'm not suggesting 108 00:07:53.160 --> 00:07:56.519 that I want Harvard to submit neo Nazis, or do 109 00:07:56.560 --> 00:08:00.000 I want Harvard to submit cuckoo birds on the fire 110 00:08:00.040 --> 00:08:03.079 are left hamas members. No, that's not what we're talking about. 111 00:08:03.360 --> 00:08:07.560 We're talking about that that that large swath of people 112 00:08:08.439 --> 00:08:11.360 who should go to universities and learn that there are 113 00:08:11.600 --> 00:08:15.439 other people just like them who have different points of 114 00:08:15.519 --> 00:08:18.360 view and there should be mutual respect. That is what 115 00:08:18.399 --> 00:08:22.199 a university should be about. That's the tradition of universities. 116 00:08:22.720 --> 00:08:26.319 How we ever got to this place off the rails, 117 00:08:26.720 --> 00:08:30.000 God only knows, but it is time to get back 118 00:08:30.279 --> 00:08:33.440 to what universities in this country are supposed to be, 119 00:08:33.600 --> 00:08:37.840 and that is education centers competing ideas. I've referred to 120 00:08:37.879 --> 00:08:42.039 it as a petri dish of competing ideas where people 121 00:08:42.120 --> 00:08:46.960 are respected and there is debate and discussion, and that 122 00:08:46.960 --> 00:08:51.679 that that there be an effort to make sure that professors, 123 00:08:51.720 --> 00:08:55.360 particularly what we call the soft scientists sociology and things 124 00:08:55.440 --> 00:09:00.000 like that, psychology, that they are are different viewpoints. Mathemat 125 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:04.960 addicts a lot of science. Two and two will always 126 00:09:04.960 --> 00:09:07.039 before you can argue two and two is going to 127 00:09:07.080 --> 00:09:10.799 be five. Okay, that's that's irrelevant. But you don't bring 128 00:09:10.879 --> 00:09:15.279 politics into into the math classroom. I have one open 129 00:09:15.320 --> 00:09:18.840 line at six one, seven, nine, ten thirty. I think 130 00:09:18.879 --> 00:09:20.919 you just heard a great hour of radio with the 131 00:09:20.960 --> 00:09:24.039 students from Harvard, the writer from the Boston Globe, and 132 00:09:24.120 --> 00:09:28.240 Harvey Silverglade. We will probably repeat that hour. I'm going 133 00:09:28.320 --> 00:09:31.480 to ask Marita to use that hour uh in one 134 00:09:31.519 --> 00:09:35.200 of our Sunday Night best of broadcast upcoming, but you 135 00:09:35.240 --> 00:09:37.519 could if you miss that hour, you can go tomorrow 136 00:09:37.519 --> 00:09:41.840 to Nightside and demand, or actually anytime probably after three 137 00:09:41.840 --> 00:09:44.399 o'clock this morning and listen to it, particularly if you're 138 00:09:44.399 --> 00:09:47.240 an insomniac. We'll be back on nights Side right after this. 139 00:09:47.399 --> 00:09:48.600 All points of view are welcome. 140 00:09:48.639 --> 00:09:54.080 Let's have at it night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, 141 00:09:54.559 --> 00:09:56.360 Boston's news radio. 142 00:09:57.039 --> 00:09:59.799 All right, let's get to the phones and have at it. 143 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:03.080 I think my audience understands what we're talking about. Let 144 00:10:03.080 --> 00:10:05.840 me go to Bill in Pennsylvania. Bill, you were next 145 00:10:05.919 --> 00:10:07.759 one night Side. Welcome first this hour. 146 00:10:08.960 --> 00:10:12.120 Oh thanks Dan. Hey. I don't know about the rest 147 00:10:12.159 --> 00:10:15.279 of the country, but where I live, I haven't seen 148 00:10:16.120 --> 00:10:18.639 I was watching the news today off and on Dan 149 00:10:18.759 --> 00:10:23.279 and every one of these legacy media people are saying 150 00:10:23.639 --> 00:10:26.279 prices are up, prices are up, prices are up. That's 151 00:10:26.279 --> 00:10:29.159 all I heard. Of course, I didn't there any any 152 00:10:29.240 --> 00:10:32.120 good news. As matter of fact, they had a thing. 153 00:10:32.679 --> 00:10:34.679 I think they they didn't want to put it up, 154 00:10:34.679 --> 00:10:38.159 but they got up there somehow. Since the first hundred 155 00:10:38.240 --> 00:10:42.080 days of Trump's presidency, ninety two percent of all of 156 00:10:42.200 --> 00:10:46.399 Harden legacy media has been negative for Trump. But where 157 00:10:46.440 --> 00:10:49.759 I live, okay, I can get I can get eggs 158 00:10:49.799 --> 00:10:54.120 any day, okay for three point fifty a dozen. I 159 00:10:54.159 --> 00:10:56.840 can get gas for I can get gas for three 160 00:10:56.879 --> 00:10:58.200 dollars and nineteen cents. 161 00:10:58.320 --> 00:11:00.240 Well, I could beat you out of gast. We got 162 00:11:00.279 --> 00:11:04.000 gas prices here well below two dollars here in Massachusetts 163 00:11:04.600 --> 00:11:10.159 two eighty two seventy five, So gas prices are definitely down. 164 00:11:10.639 --> 00:11:15.200 Gas prices being down should reduce the cost of everything 165 00:11:15.240 --> 00:11:18.480 that is shipped by truck. There's nothing that you or 166 00:11:18.519 --> 00:11:21.679 I buying a store that gets there other than buy 167 00:11:21.679 --> 00:11:26.399 a vehicle. No one's carrying you know, milk or groceries, 168 00:11:26.519 --> 00:11:30.000 or clothing items or sporting goods on their back. It's 169 00:11:30.120 --> 00:11:34.159 all being shipped. So yeah, I don't understand it either. 170 00:11:34.279 --> 00:11:37.519 Try the Boston Globe. The Boston Globe. Every day it's 171 00:11:37.559 --> 00:11:41.159 got another headline, and I probably during the break, I'm 172 00:11:41.159 --> 00:11:44.080 gonna go down and get it. It's just amazing. They 173 00:11:44.759 --> 00:11:47.559 just continued this drum beat, not only on the op 174 00:11:47.720 --> 00:11:51.360 ed pages, but on the front page, on the middle page. 175 00:11:51.440 --> 00:11:55.000 You know, yesterday you're from Pennsylvania, the Philadelphia Eagles and 176 00:11:55.200 --> 00:11:58.279 mass went and visited the White House. Remember two years 177 00:11:58.279 --> 00:12:01.799 ago the Eagles or three years ago, whichever it was, 178 00:12:01.840 --> 00:12:04.840 the Eagles chose not to go to the wins. It 179 00:12:04.879 --> 00:12:07.440 was a huge story. Well it was actually during Trump's 180 00:12:07.440 --> 00:12:11.360 first term. Actually huge story today. The Globe never mentioned. 181 00:12:11.399 --> 00:12:13.559 It didn't happen as far as the Globe was concerned, 182 00:12:13.600 --> 00:12:14.639 you know, I mean. 183 00:12:14.960 --> 00:12:18.159 Yeah, when we say yeah, you're right, Dan, when we 184 00:12:18.200 --> 00:12:24.559 say free and pree and fair press. Okay, I don't 185 00:12:24.600 --> 00:12:27.799 know what what has happened to journalism? Okay, but I 186 00:12:27.879 --> 00:12:31.320 think get this hate stuff, Okay, this hate Trump stuff 187 00:12:31.679 --> 00:12:35.159 is actually backfiring. There's nobody here where I live, okay, 188 00:12:35.200 --> 00:12:39.279 talking about tariffs. Nobody, all right, absolutely nobody. I get around. 189 00:12:39.799 --> 00:12:41.720 I put a lot of miles on my car all 190 00:12:41.720 --> 00:12:43.759 over the place. Hey, by the way, the reason why, 191 00:12:44.000 --> 00:12:47.399 the reason why our tax are gas prices. We have 192 00:12:47.440 --> 00:12:51.679 the highest Pennsylvan We have the highest state tax on 193 00:12:51.879 --> 00:12:54.320 gas that any We're number one in the hulk in 194 00:12:54.360 --> 00:12:54.919 the whole nation. 195 00:12:55.159 --> 00:12:57.039 I think you're about sixty eight cents. 196 00:12:56.799 --> 00:13:00.320 A gallon on unbelievable combination. 197 00:12:59.879 --> 00:13:03.240 Of state in federal taxes. Here in Massachusetts. I think 198 00:13:03.240 --> 00:13:06.120 we're less than that. We're like somewhere around fifty four 199 00:13:06.200 --> 00:13:07.720 or fifty six cents. 200 00:13:08.039 --> 00:13:12.000 Yeah, And I have a theory, okay, and I think 201 00:13:12.039 --> 00:13:18.039 that I think that Elon Musk and his Musketeers as 202 00:13:18.080 --> 00:13:21.440 they call him over in CNN, I think I think 203 00:13:21.480 --> 00:13:23.720 they went in there. I think they went in there 204 00:13:23.799 --> 00:13:27.080 for a fact finding mission. I don't think their mission 205 00:13:27.240 --> 00:13:31.279 was the cut Okay, at trillion they said first, two 206 00:13:31.320 --> 00:13:34.480 trillion and the Troy. I think their mission was to 207 00:13:34.519 --> 00:13:39.720 get in there and find out things that are just unbelievable. 208 00:13:40.159 --> 00:13:42.360 And I think that it was a fact finding the missions. 209 00:13:42.360 --> 00:13:43.919 It was like a reconnaissance mission. 210 00:13:44.000 --> 00:13:46.679 Dan Well, I don't know. I would say this. Whatever 211 00:13:46.759 --> 00:13:51.679 they have found, they haven't publicized especially well. And I 212 00:13:51.799 --> 00:13:53.559 keep looking for a lot of this stuff. I know 213 00:13:53.600 --> 00:13:57.399 there are websites there, but there should be some media 214 00:13:57.480 --> 00:14:00.600 that could that could do a better job saying Okay, 215 00:14:00.600 --> 00:14:02.799 here's what they found, here's what they didn't find. I 216 00:14:02.840 --> 00:14:07.120 think that that underground cave out in your neck of 217 00:14:07.120 --> 00:14:10.480 the woods in Pennsylvania, where all the SO Security records 218 00:14:10.559 --> 00:14:18.200 are kept in file folders, yeah, was extraordinary that that 219 00:14:18.360 --> 00:14:22.639 obviously is nineteen sixties technology. It looks like my basement 220 00:14:22.879 --> 00:14:25.240 where I keep file cabinets, so you would think that 221 00:14:25.320 --> 00:14:27.200 the government would have got a little bit more modern 222 00:14:27.240 --> 00:14:29.240 than that bill. I got to get one more in 223 00:14:29.320 --> 00:14:33.000 here before the break. Thanks for getting going. Appreciated very much. 224 00:14:33.440 --> 00:14:35.639 Let's keep rolling here, going to go next to Dan 225 00:14:35.840 --> 00:14:38.399 in San Francisco. Dan, you were next on NIGHTSAGA, right. 226 00:14:38.279 --> 00:14:42.080 Ahead, Yeah, Hey, Dan, I just wanted to comment on 227 00:14:42.159 --> 00:14:46.159 the first hundred days of Trump and I just see 228 00:14:46.399 --> 00:14:49.000 failure all over the place. You know, I'm an anti 229 00:14:49.039 --> 00:14:49.600 Trump guy. 230 00:14:49.799 --> 00:14:52.279 Sure, so let me ask you. Let me play a 231 00:14:52.279 --> 00:14:56.879 little devil's advocate. Okay, how would you how would you 232 00:14:56.960 --> 00:14:59.000 give him? What sort of a gray would you give him? 233 00:14:59.120 --> 00:15:02.639 On tightening up the United States southern border? 234 00:15:05.039 --> 00:15:08.879 Let's see there. Okay, so the border crossings are way down. 235 00:15:09.720 --> 00:15:13.879 But in order to do that, he has been haphazardly 236 00:15:14.919 --> 00:15:18.279 arresting and deporting people around the country like. 237 00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:20.279 Members. 238 00:15:21.240 --> 00:15:24.320 Right, No, he has it, he has it. Was Abrego 239 00:15:24.399 --> 00:15:25.720 Garcia a gang member? 240 00:15:26.120 --> 00:15:30.360 Yes, yes he was. How much do you know about 241 00:15:30.360 --> 00:15:30.919 a brig. 242 00:15:31.639 --> 00:15:34.120 To be a gang member? Hold On? Was not? 243 00:15:34.399 --> 00:15:38.639 Hold On? He was stopped in Tennessee trafficking people, Okay 244 00:15:39.519 --> 00:15:42.879 he was. He was ordered to leave the country. Okay, 245 00:15:43.159 --> 00:15:46.639 I mean you know they picked a bad example. Now, 246 00:15:46.840 --> 00:15:49.960 did he get the due process that you and I 247 00:15:50.000 --> 00:15:52.120 would have liked to have seen. I will agree with 248 00:15:52.159 --> 00:15:54.240 you on that it would have been better in his 249 00:15:54.360 --> 00:15:59.200 circumstance to bring him in back into immigration court. Uh. 250 00:15:59.240 --> 00:16:02.279 And the the deportation order I think was issued in 251 00:16:02.320 --> 00:16:08.639 twenty nineteen. Obviously that was not executed. And do I 252 00:16:08.679 --> 00:16:11.559 think that at some point he should have been brought in. Yeah, 253 00:16:12.120 --> 00:16:14.639 I will go with you on that. But the two 254 00:16:14.720 --> 00:16:17.600 hundred and twenty or so people who were picked up, 255 00:16:17.759 --> 00:16:20.200 they picked up a whole bunch of people at an 256 00:16:20.240 --> 00:16:24.519 underground nightclub in Colorado Springs over the weekend, gang members 257 00:16:24.559 --> 00:16:27.639 of Trente de Agua. Did you see any of that 258 00:16:27.720 --> 00:16:30.600 coverage or no? That's been a major story. 259 00:16:30.679 --> 00:16:33.000 I saw the coverage, and I saw the coverage of 260 00:16:33.039 --> 00:16:35.759 the other people that they already deported. And the judge said, no, 261 00:16:35.919 --> 00:16:39.240 you have to turn the plane around, and Trump he 262 00:16:39.360 --> 00:16:40.759 disobeyed the judge's order. 263 00:16:40.879 --> 00:16:45.000 Well, first of all, Trump didn't hold Dan Dan. You're 264 00:16:45.039 --> 00:16:49.559 misstating facts. Okay, you have missstating facts. The plane was 265 00:16:49.919 --> 00:16:53.480 in the air on his way to El Salvador before 266 00:16:53.559 --> 00:16:56.919 the judge's order was issued. Verbally from the bench it 267 00:16:57.039 --> 00:17:00.200 was on a Saturday night, Okay, you would have a 268 00:17:00.279 --> 00:17:03.720 much stronger case if the judge issued the order, the 269 00:17:03.759 --> 00:17:06.880 written order on Monday morning and the plane took off 270 00:17:07.039 --> 00:17:12.519 in defiance at that order on a Wednesday afternoon. I mean, 271 00:17:14.400 --> 00:17:17.240 you're a good guy, and I just want to tell 272 00:17:17.240 --> 00:17:20.319 you that. Here's my question. We have twenty million people 273 00:17:20.400 --> 00:17:24.359 in the country illegally. Okay, there's probably somewhere about a 274 00:17:24.440 --> 00:17:30.440 million of them who have some serious criminology, crime backgrounds, 275 00:17:30.480 --> 00:17:35.079 members of gangs, etc. In your world? Are you going 276 00:17:35.160 --> 00:17:39.359 to give a full blown immigration trial to people who 277 00:17:39.480 --> 00:17:41.960 you know are gang members and are here and have 278 00:17:42.000 --> 00:17:47.039 committed crimes? How do you deal with that amount of 279 00:17:47.559 --> 00:17:49.920 individual cases? Is that realistic? 280 00:17:49.960 --> 00:17:53.720 Do you think they're entitled to due process? Then? 281 00:17:54.319 --> 00:17:56.839 Well, the question is this, they're entitled to do process? 282 00:17:57.119 --> 00:18:00.000 What level of due process is what I'm asking you. 283 00:18:00.119 --> 00:18:03.519 If a full blown immigration trial for let us say 284 00:18:04.000 --> 00:18:07.119 one of these, every one of these gang members who 285 00:18:07.160 --> 00:18:11.519 have committed serious crimes in this country, Let's let's say 286 00:18:11.519 --> 00:18:15.519 it's a week, Okay, how many weeks will it take 287 00:18:15.920 --> 00:18:19.119 to get a million people out of the country who 288 00:18:19.240 --> 00:18:21.920 I think you ain't even agree with me. Don't deserve 289 00:18:22.000 --> 00:18:24.599 to be there. They've come in here illegally. They are members. 290 00:18:24.640 --> 00:18:29.319 You're familiar with what MS thirteen is, correct? I hope yes. 291 00:18:30.640 --> 00:18:32.400 Do you want let me ask you this, do you 292 00:18:32.920 --> 00:18:36.359 dan honest question? Give me an honest answer. Do you 293 00:18:36.440 --> 00:18:39.200 want members of MS thirteen living in your neighborhood in 294 00:18:39.240 --> 00:18:40.759 San Francisco? Yes? Or no? 295 00:18:41.519 --> 00:18:44.039 Dan, I want the law to be followed. 296 00:18:44.400 --> 00:18:47.519 My question is this question. I want the law to 297 00:18:47.559 --> 00:18:51.039 be followed. To Dan, we can get to the interpretation 298 00:18:51.160 --> 00:18:53.960 of the law in a moment. Do you want members 299 00:18:54.319 --> 00:18:57.400 of MS thirteen to be living in your neighborhood? Do 300 00:18:57.440 --> 00:19:00.319 you want members of Trente Deragua to be living in 301 00:19:00.359 --> 00:19:03.079 your neighborhood. I'm not talking about some guy who's come 302 00:19:03.119 --> 00:19:05.880 across the border and has lived here for fifteen years, 303 00:19:06.160 --> 00:19:09.000 and and and you know is uh Is is living 304 00:19:09.039 --> 00:19:13.039 a normal life. Let's focus on the bad ombrace. Do 305 00:19:13.079 --> 00:19:15.920 you want them living in your neighborhood while it's adjudicated, 306 00:19:17.000 --> 00:19:19.319 you know, one by one? Just yes, yes or no? 307 00:19:19.359 --> 00:19:22.079 If you want that, fess up to it and tell 308 00:19:22.079 --> 00:19:24.519 me that you want them to have absolute, the same 309 00:19:24.640 --> 00:19:28.079 full rights that any American US born citizen would have. 310 00:19:29.559 --> 00:19:31.440 They are entitled, Yes, they are entitled. 311 00:19:31.519 --> 00:19:34.079 So in the meantime, you'll accept them living. You want 312 00:19:34.119 --> 00:19:35.400 them living in your neighborhood. 313 00:19:35.440 --> 00:19:39.359 Correct, it's their gang members. I want them arrested, but 314 00:19:39.359 --> 00:19:40.079 I don't want them to. 315 00:19:39.960 --> 00:19:42.680 Do whoa whah, whoa whoa what about Now? Wait a second, 316 00:19:42.759 --> 00:19:46.160 let's talk about let's talk about presumption of innocence. Okay, 317 00:19:46.920 --> 00:19:50.160 they're arrested as a gang member. You're gonna get bail. 318 00:19:50.640 --> 00:19:56.759 Of course they're gonna get bail. They're not leaving. Think 319 00:19:56.799 --> 00:19:58.680 what you say you got, you got? You have got 320 00:19:58.720 --> 00:20:02.440 different cloud. You got twenty million people who are here illegally. 321 00:20:04.039 --> 00:20:06.440 How do you deal with the one million who were 322 00:20:06.480 --> 00:20:09.200 really problems? How do you deal with the people who 323 00:20:09.279 --> 00:20:12.559 killed Lincoln Riley? How do you deal with the people 324 00:20:12.599 --> 00:20:14.720 that killed Rachel Moore? And how do you deal with 325 00:20:14.759 --> 00:20:17.920 those people? We got a problem with. 326 00:20:19.440 --> 00:20:21.400 What did she do? Why is she in prison? 327 00:20:22.640 --> 00:20:24.519 On that one, I'm going to agree with you. Now 328 00:20:24.559 --> 00:20:27.440 I'm going to surprise you. I thought one that's bad 329 00:20:27.519 --> 00:20:30.839 optics Number one. I've actually read the article that she 330 00:20:31.039 --> 00:20:34.400 co authored in the Tough newspaper. Have you read that article? 331 00:20:35.839 --> 00:20:36.400 Yes? I did. 332 00:20:37.160 --> 00:20:40.200 There was nothing in that article. I disagree with it, 333 00:20:40.359 --> 00:20:42.720 but there was nothing in that article where she called for, 334 00:20:43.000 --> 00:20:46.759 you know, she supported you know, terrorism in the country 335 00:20:46.839 --> 00:20:49.359 or anything like that. It was It was an article 336 00:20:49.359 --> 00:20:51.359 that could have been written by a high school junior 337 00:20:52.039 --> 00:20:54.599 if they got something on her. The mistake the Trump 338 00:20:54.640 --> 00:20:59.200 administration makes is let us know what it is. She 339 00:20:59.319 --> 00:21:02.160 should not have been in that first cut. I want 340 00:21:02.200 --> 00:21:07.240 the gang members out of here, like yesterday, call me. 341 00:21:07.880 --> 00:21:10.480 In jail, Dan. Why is that it's been more than 342 00:21:10.519 --> 00:21:10.920 a month. 343 00:21:11.680 --> 00:21:14.640 Well, I don't know why it is. And I think 344 00:21:14.799 --> 00:21:19.359 that the Trump administration is losing political capital when you 345 00:21:19.440 --> 00:21:22.279 hold someone like her in jail. At the same time, 346 00:21:22.559 --> 00:21:25.200 the fact that a plane is in the air and 347 00:21:25.279 --> 00:21:30.319 some judge in Virginia, Maryland or Washington, DC issues a 348 00:21:30.440 --> 00:21:33.599 verbal order Saturday night at six thirty after the plane 349 00:21:33.640 --> 00:21:35.759 has taken off, What do they think they're gonna do 350 00:21:35.920 --> 00:21:38.519 based upon this one federal judge, You're going to turn 351 00:21:38.559 --> 00:21:41.799 a plane around? I don't think so. It wasn't even 352 00:21:41.799 --> 00:21:43.759 in the US air space where that was issued. 353 00:21:45.000 --> 00:21:48.400 Why is a Brago Garcia still in jail? Trump? He 354 00:21:48.440 --> 00:21:51.559 could make one phone call down to Here's. 355 00:21:51.359 --> 00:21:53.319 What I'd like to see happen. Okay, here's what I'd 356 00:21:53.359 --> 00:21:55.359 like to see happen. I would like to see him. 357 00:21:55.559 --> 00:21:57.559 I would like to see Trump. I would like to 358 00:21:57.559 --> 00:22:00.680 see Trump send Air Force one down there or US 359 00:22:00.799 --> 00:22:04.279 military jet, bring him back, drag him into courtroom, have 360 00:22:04.440 --> 00:22:07.680 the hearing, and get him back to El Salvador tomorrow night. 361 00:22:08.079 --> 00:22:10.000 That's what i'd love to see in the in a 362 00:22:10.039 --> 00:22:12.799 perfect world. Unfortunately it's not a perfect world. Then I 363 00:22:12.799 --> 00:22:13.279 gotta run. 364 00:22:13.839 --> 00:22:16.880 He doesn't want it to be. The cruelty is the point, 365 00:22:17.160 --> 00:22:19.680 That's what it is. He just wants to see again. 366 00:22:19.799 --> 00:22:22.359 I just think that your position is you think Trump's 367 00:22:22.359 --> 00:22:24.960 position is unreasonable. You put me in a position of 368 00:22:25.000 --> 00:22:28.480 defending Trump, which I think is you know, you wouldn't 369 00:22:28.519 --> 00:22:31.079 even say that you wanted these bad people out of 370 00:22:31.119 --> 00:22:34.000 your neighborhood. You don't care. Good luck to you, Dan. 371 00:22:34.200 --> 00:22:36.599 I hope you don't become a victim of an M's 372 00:22:36.640 --> 00:22:40.759 thirteen member or or a Trente Deragua member because and 373 00:22:40.799 --> 00:22:41.960 I mean, they. 374 00:22:41.920 --> 00:22:46.039 Don't swiped up by Ice or somebody who doesn't like 375 00:22:46.079 --> 00:22:48.680 what I say or write, because that's exactly what happened 376 00:22:48.680 --> 00:22:49.559 to Romeo Uster. 377 00:22:49.799 --> 00:22:52.960 You're a United States do you do? You really do? 378 00:22:53.279 --> 00:22:55.319 Are you losing any sleep to think that you're going 379 00:22:55.359 --> 00:22:58.279 to be swept up by ice? Dan, come on, be real. 380 00:22:58.799 --> 00:23:01.759 Hey, hey look, he said that he was going to 381 00:23:01.839 --> 00:23:02.920 go after home grown. 382 00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:03.720 Yeah right. 383 00:23:03.799 --> 00:23:05.440 At a press conference, he. 384 00:23:05.759 --> 00:23:09.400 Also yeah, yeah, he trolls people like you. Dan, He's 385 00:23:09.480 --> 00:23:12.319 he's renting, he's he's living in your head, rent free. 386 00:23:12.599 --> 00:23:14.440 Don't let him do that with a hot mic. 387 00:23:14.920 --> 00:23:17.279 Are you denying? He said that, He said it in 388 00:23:17.559 --> 00:23:19.039 he said in an interview. 389 00:23:20.799 --> 00:23:24.119 You don't. You don't understand Donald Trump. Okay, he will 390 00:23:24.160 --> 00:23:28.480 say weird, crazy things, and all it does is it 391 00:23:28.559 --> 00:23:30.759 drives people like you, good people like you on the 392 00:23:30.839 --> 00:23:35.440 left crazy. Dan. I gotta run. We've gone got to go, Dan, 393 00:23:37.799 --> 00:23:40.920 We've done eight minutes. Yeah he does. He does. You 394 00:23:40.960 --> 00:23:44.480 know who who has deported more people than Donald Trump as. 395 00:23:44.400 --> 00:23:47.400 President Joe Biden, Barack Obama. 396 00:23:47.519 --> 00:23:53.079 Yeah, he deported three million. I didn't hear anybody process. 397 00:23:53.319 --> 00:23:56.039 I'm sure every one of them had a full deportation hearing. 398 00:23:56.279 --> 00:23:58.480 I don't think so. Thanks, Dan, have a great night 399 00:23:59.160 --> 00:24:01.880 coming back right after the news. Oh boy, it's gonna 400 00:24:01.880 --> 00:24:03.720 be one of those nights on night Side. Let's keep 401 00:24:03.720 --> 00:24:04.119