WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.520 --> 00:00:10.759 Yeah, ritt of news need so you don't have the. 2 00:00:12.720 --> 00:00:15.119 Come run in just as fast as we can. 3 00:00:16.440 --> 00:00:17.960 Shooter's gonna help. 4 00:00:18.000 --> 00:00:22.079 Come Man Dix is the Troubleshooter Show. 5 00:00:22.480 --> 00:00:29.879 No Tom Martine, Hi Tom Martino here kicking off election eve. 6 00:00:31.600 --> 00:00:33.759 I know you don't want to hear about it. In fact, 7 00:00:34.000 --> 00:00:36.560 the United States doesn't want to hear about it. According 8 00:00:36.600 --> 00:00:40.520 to surveys, they have election fatigue. We don't. We're talking 9 00:00:40.560 --> 00:00:43.560 about your life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, and money, money, money, 10 00:00:43.560 --> 00:00:45.920 and we have, as you'll see in our wide shot 11 00:00:45.920 --> 00:00:48.240 if your streaming the show or downloading it later, we 12 00:00:48.280 --> 00:00:51.399 have Barry Miller. I call him a steemed real estate broker. 13 00:00:51.640 --> 00:00:54.840 And the reason I say that Barry is I'm how 14 00:00:54.840 --> 00:00:57.079 many years ago? I'm trying to I always say thirty 15 00:00:57.159 --> 00:00:58.719 or so? How many years it was more than that? 16 00:00:58.960 --> 00:01:00.880 It's what year did you start that? About? 17 00:01:00.920 --> 00:01:02.560 Four years? 18 00:01:03.000 --> 00:01:03.560 Oh my god? 19 00:01:04.239 --> 00:01:07.319 Okay, so we're talking like fifty. 20 00:01:07.519 --> 00:01:10.719 So you and I got together, Well, you did it, 21 00:01:11.200 --> 00:01:13.959 and I covered you. I think I gave you the first, 22 00:01:14.120 --> 00:01:18.040 the first coverage ever on buyer brokers. He invented it, 23 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:22.799 I mean he did, he developed it and nurtured it 24 00:01:22.879 --> 00:01:27.120 and it was so cool. And what he did was 25 00:01:27.319 --> 00:01:32.319 he decided to do buyer brokers. He says, you know what, 26 00:01:32.560 --> 00:01:36.519 everyone is representing the seller, and that's true. You'd call 27 00:01:36.599 --> 00:01:39.239 on a sign or you may even call a broker 28 00:01:39.280 --> 00:01:41.560 and say I want to buy a house. And back 29 00:01:41.560 --> 00:01:45.799 in the day before Barry, they would show you houses, 30 00:01:45.840 --> 00:01:49.920 but they legally and technically raw. 31 00:01:50.079 --> 00:01:53.680 All fifty states time and the real estate schools taught 32 00:01:53.680 --> 00:01:56.200 it everywhere across the country. 33 00:01:56.640 --> 00:01:58.920 Okay, taught taught it everywhere. 34 00:01:59.079 --> 00:02:03.359 Yeah, you resent the seller, so remember your fiduciary duty 35 00:02:03.439 --> 00:02:06.120 is with the seller, and legally that's how it was 36 00:02:06.200 --> 00:02:08.759 structured until we change that. 37 00:02:09.240 --> 00:02:11.759 Yeah, so what you did, and there was nothing wrong 38 00:02:11.800 --> 00:02:13.479 with that as long as you knew it. Now I'm 39 00:02:13.520 --> 00:02:16.080 going to go back to you. And so he invented 40 00:02:16.080 --> 00:02:18.240 the buyer broker or developed it. There were a couple 41 00:02:18.280 --> 00:02:20.840 of people trying it, but he formalized it, made an 42 00:02:20.879 --> 00:02:25.439 association and made it nationwide legal. In fact, states adopted it, 43 00:02:25.520 --> 00:02:29.000 and we have contracts now for that. And it's really cool. 44 00:02:29.159 --> 00:02:31.120 So then he went on to other things as he 45 00:02:31.159 --> 00:02:33.759 got older. He's an old far like me and didn't 46 00:02:33.759 --> 00:02:38.199 want to retire. We like being productive. 47 00:02:39.080 --> 00:02:40.039 For a long time. 48 00:02:40.199 --> 00:02:42.520 Of course, that's why a seventy one I started my 49 00:02:42.560 --> 00:02:45.479 Wave eight wealth management. I want people to make money, 50 00:02:45.680 --> 00:02:47.840 and I'm you know what I'm tired of at this age. 51 00:02:48.319 --> 00:02:52.120 It's no longer about just patting your pockets, although it 52 00:02:52.199 --> 00:02:54.719 never was with me. It was about love and compassion 53 00:02:54.879 --> 00:02:58.479 and spreading the wealth. But really though, at my age, 54 00:02:58.599 --> 00:03:01.879 I want to just tell people where it's at. I mean, 55 00:03:02.319 --> 00:03:04.120 you know what I mean, you just want to expose 56 00:03:04.159 --> 00:03:07.000 crap like don't do this, don't do that, do this, 57 00:03:07.240 --> 00:03:10.800 do that. And that's why when it comes to election 58 00:03:10.919 --> 00:03:13.800 and stuff, I don't want to necessarily tell people about 59 00:03:13.800 --> 00:03:16.479 the people. I want to tell people about issues, issues 60 00:03:16.479 --> 00:03:19.000 that affect their lives and their pocketbooks. And that's why 61 00:03:19.080 --> 00:03:21.919 you don't hear me a lot pushing things. But Mark Major, 62 00:03:21.960 --> 00:03:25.479 Mark Major, who is of course a part of this 63 00:03:25.599 --> 00:03:29.800 show for many, many years, he has a different opinion. 64 00:03:30.000 --> 00:03:34.479 He believes I'm Mark you there, bro of course okay, 65 00:03:34.639 --> 00:03:36.840 And his video is not up of your streaming. I 66 00:03:36.919 --> 00:03:41.080 did that as a service to the public because he 67 00:03:41.199 --> 00:03:46.000 was out working on his tractor. And anyway, Mark election 68 00:03:46.120 --> 00:03:49.319 need just real quick and people listen. We can't ignore 69 00:03:49.360 --> 00:03:51.400 what's going on. And again, I'm not telling you what 70 00:03:51.479 --> 00:03:53.400 to do. I'm telling you to look at issues. 71 00:03:53.599 --> 00:03:56.319 But Mark, go ahead, but you've already told everybody who 72 00:03:56.400 --> 00:03:59.039 you voted for, which is Trump? And I appreciate you 73 00:03:59.120 --> 00:04:02.879 doing that as someone that's been in the Denver metro 74 00:04:03.000 --> 00:04:05.520 in Colorado area for over forty five years. 75 00:04:05.800 --> 00:04:08.319 But just to say I didn't say because I did, 76 00:04:08.360 --> 00:04:10.800 you should too. I mean, and again, no. 77 00:04:11.240 --> 00:04:13.479 I didn't say you did. I'm just simply pointing out 78 00:04:13.479 --> 00:04:14.319 who you voted for. 79 00:04:14.439 --> 00:04:15.919 That's all. Go ahead, go ahead. 80 00:04:16.040 --> 00:04:18.639 Well, I think tomorrow's really important. If you don't get 81 00:04:18.639 --> 00:04:21.439 out and vote, it's not a good thing whatsoever. But 82 00:04:21.560 --> 00:04:25.639 I am pretty sure Trump is gonna win. I love 83 00:04:25.720 --> 00:04:28.279 how they mess with the polls in the last few days, 84 00:04:28.680 --> 00:04:32.920 especially these left leaning polsters. They had one come out 85 00:04:32.920 --> 00:04:36.920 of Iowa saying that she was three points up. No way, Jose, 86 00:04:37.120 --> 00:04:38.959 is that ever gonna happen? 87 00:04:39.079 --> 00:04:39.360 Ever? 88 00:04:39.480 --> 00:04:44.120 Ever, it's gonna be like twenty sixteen, twenty twenty. These 89 00:04:44.160 --> 00:04:47.199 pollsters get it all wrong when it comes to the Trumpers. 90 00:04:47.480 --> 00:04:48.720 We don't want to talk to them. 91 00:04:48.800 --> 00:04:50.399 Why the hell would I want to talk to some 92 00:04:50.600 --> 00:04:55.199 lefty freaking polster somewhere we just simply don't talk to him. 93 00:04:55.439 --> 00:04:58.000 And that's going to show tomorrow in the final numbers. 94 00:04:58.399 --> 00:05:01.519 And by the way, I'm in a election news, true news, 95 00:05:03.120 --> 00:05:07.920 that's exactly what the news is reporting, and both sides 96 00:05:07.959 --> 00:05:09.639 of the news. When I say both sides, it's too 97 00:05:09.639 --> 00:05:12.040 bad we even have to say that. I swear to God. 98 00:05:12.319 --> 00:05:14.279 Well, you know you're right, though, tom Half of them 99 00:05:14.279 --> 00:05:18.279 are a complete fake news, absolutely utterly fake news. 100 00:05:18.480 --> 00:05:19.079 Did you hear? 101 00:05:19.240 --> 00:05:19.319 Oh? 102 00:05:19.399 --> 00:05:23.079 I hate I want to say that half of the 103 00:05:23.240 --> 00:05:27.759 registered voters who take part in polls, half say they 104 00:05:27.800 --> 00:05:29.519 lie or avoid. 105 00:05:29.879 --> 00:05:32.800 Well, that's amazing. I just avoid for sure. I don't 106 00:05:32.839 --> 00:05:37.360 know about lying. But why would you spend fifteen minutes 107 00:05:37.439 --> 00:05:39.959 doing a poll and lie? You simply go, I'm not 108 00:05:40.079 --> 00:05:41.199 interested in you hang up on. 109 00:05:41.399 --> 00:05:45.959 They said forty eight percent said they previously lied to 110 00:05:47.240 --> 00:05:52.199 those whom they chose as a candidate, more than double 111 00:05:52.240 --> 00:05:57.639 the twenty three percent of previous times. People are lying. 112 00:05:58.240 --> 00:06:00.759 What I don't like about polls in the final news. 113 00:06:00.759 --> 00:06:03.839 By the way, you see that SNL boy, did they 114 00:06:03.839 --> 00:06:05.040 screw up on that deal? 115 00:06:05.079 --> 00:06:06.120 They didn't invite Trump. 116 00:06:06.199 --> 00:06:09.480 They ended up giving them a ninety second commercial during 117 00:06:09.560 --> 00:06:12.360 something yesterday, I think during the NFL game. Yeah, well, 118 00:06:12.360 --> 00:06:14.480 how the hell did they do that? They did it 119 00:06:14.519 --> 00:06:17.160 on purpose or lion cheating bastards. I mean, I'll put 120 00:06:17.199 --> 00:06:21.600 it exactly what they are this current administration, Harris and Biden. 121 00:06:21.879 --> 00:06:24.079 They're so in with the media. It's unbelievable. 122 00:06:24.120 --> 00:06:26.680 If you don't believe me, well, actually most lefties do 123 00:06:26.800 --> 00:06:27.920 believe me, and they know it. 124 00:06:28.120 --> 00:06:29.839 They just don't see a problem with it. 125 00:06:30.160 --> 00:06:32.560 People, you have to get out tomorrow and vote if 126 00:06:32.600 --> 00:06:35.720 you haven't voted yet. All the early numbers are looking 127 00:06:35.800 --> 00:06:38.920 really good for the Republicans in every swing state. 128 00:06:38.959 --> 00:06:42.000 They're looking better than they ever have for early voting. 129 00:06:42.040 --> 00:06:45.000 But that does not mean you do not keep the 130 00:06:45.079 --> 00:06:47.240 foot on the pedal. You get your ass out and 131 00:06:47.319 --> 00:06:51.519 vote tomorrow. Even Colorado can do something tomorrow, folks. 132 00:06:52.079 --> 00:06:55.800 I want to mention something, this is really serious. Rather 133 00:06:55.879 --> 00:06:58.319 than looking at a personality, because I know a lot 134 00:06:58.360 --> 00:07:02.680 of people have things about personalities, look at the platform 135 00:07:02.759 --> 00:07:06.759 because it's the platform that pushes the people. There's not 136 00:07:06.879 --> 00:07:10.720 a candidate that can come in and vote totally against 137 00:07:10.759 --> 00:07:14.000 their own platform. So look at the platforms they're published 138 00:07:14.560 --> 00:07:17.519 and look at them, because what you'll find is the 139 00:07:17.600 --> 00:07:21.839 truth truly, I mean what the truth is. 140 00:07:22.079 --> 00:07:24.439 One of the candidates has been in charge for the 141 00:07:24.519 --> 00:07:27.480 last three and a half four years, and our country 142 00:07:27.600 --> 00:07:30.600 is nowhere is in the good shape it was when 143 00:07:30.639 --> 00:07:34.000 Trump was there or anybody else. But the real part 144 00:07:34.000 --> 00:07:36.879 that kills me about that is the border more than anything. 145 00:07:37.160 --> 00:07:40.680 It is absolutely insane. The amount of fetanol coming over, 146 00:07:40.920 --> 00:07:45.199 the amount of people sucking up resources that US taxpayers 147 00:07:45.279 --> 00:07:45.600 pay for. 148 00:07:46.120 --> 00:07:49.560 Mark on the issues. Let me get this out. During 149 00:07:49.839 --> 00:07:53.600 discussions and during debates, for example, I'm going to give 150 00:07:53.639 --> 00:07:59.480 you one example. You know, they'll talk about aborting babies 151 00:07:59.560 --> 00:08:02.360 up to the moment of conception, excuse me, the moment 152 00:08:02.360 --> 00:08:08.360 of delivery, and people say that's not happening. You know, 153 00:08:08.399 --> 00:08:11.000 the truth seekers they call them, or the fact checkers 154 00:08:11.040 --> 00:08:14.600 will say that's not happening in one state. That's true, 155 00:08:14.839 --> 00:08:20.160 that is absolutely true right now. But the platform says 156 00:08:20.680 --> 00:08:24.040 that they're in favor of that. So it's not a 157 00:08:24.120 --> 00:08:25.920 law right now, it's not a right right now. But 158 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:30.720 their platform says they're in favor of abortion up to 159 00:08:31.480 --> 00:08:36.360 the moment of birth. That Colorado right now under Polish, 160 00:08:37.759 --> 00:08:39.399 I don't know if it is. I think it's it's 161 00:08:39.399 --> 00:08:43.080 on the ballot this time another novel. Right now, you 162 00:08:43.120 --> 00:08:47.720 can have an abortion in Colorado up to the day. Okay, 163 00:08:48.159 --> 00:08:50.279 I don't know that to be sure, but if you 164 00:08:50.320 --> 00:08:51.279 say that, I'll look it up. 165 00:08:51.559 --> 00:08:55.279 If they if they go that far, I personally I 166 00:08:55.320 --> 00:08:57.679 think it's crazy, but you know, whatever to me. 167 00:08:57.759 --> 00:09:00.519 But it's what I'm telling people is that no matter 168 00:09:00.519 --> 00:09:04.279 what the laws say. Now, including on the conservative side. 169 00:09:04.399 --> 00:09:06.519 You know, people say there's going to be a national 170 00:09:06.639 --> 00:09:10.759 ban on abortion, not in the it's not in the platform. Now. 171 00:09:10.799 --> 00:09:12.440 That's not to say one or two of them, or 172 00:09:12.519 --> 00:09:14.960 four of them or five. All I'm saying is this, 173 00:09:15.200 --> 00:09:17.960 if you look at the platforms as side by side 174 00:09:18.039 --> 00:09:21.279 right now, just you'll get an idea of issues. Okay, 175 00:09:21.320 --> 00:09:23.440 that's the bottom line. That's what That's the only message 176 00:09:23.440 --> 00:09:26.080 I want is that even if you hate the people 177 00:09:26.480 --> 00:09:30.200 on the ballot, look at the platform because very seldom, 178 00:09:30.480 --> 00:09:35.879 and I'm serious about this, have the candidates gone against 179 00:09:35.919 --> 00:09:41.000 their own platform. They haven't. They really haven't. The platforms 180 00:09:41.039 --> 00:09:43.480 seem to over the years. I went back and looked 181 00:09:43.519 --> 00:09:46.600 at platforms, and they seem to hold true to their platforms. 182 00:09:46.639 --> 00:09:49.000 It's just that people don't really look at them. And 183 00:09:49.039 --> 00:09:55.159 then they're surprised and okay, just do that. Okay, Michelle, 184 00:09:55.399 --> 00:10:03.399 you have an issue with a contractor what's going on? Michelle? Michelle, 185 00:10:03.440 --> 00:10:05.960 do you hear me? Yes? I can. What's going on 186 00:10:06.039 --> 00:10:08.080 with the contract? 187 00:10:08.519 --> 00:10:08.879 Okay? 188 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:13.519 So I got like held damage on my roof. 189 00:10:13.600 --> 00:10:16.159 And i'm my Okay, So it's a roofer you're talking about. 190 00:10:17.279 --> 00:10:19.399 Yes, what happened? 191 00:10:19.759 --> 00:10:23.320 Submitted to the insurance company, and they came on and 192 00:10:23.360 --> 00:10:25.279 did an estimate on the damage damaged. 193 00:10:25.440 --> 00:10:29.960 Yes, and then so we got their estimates from the 194 00:10:30.720 --> 00:10:32.720 insurance adjuster, and then. 195 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:34.960 The adjuster estimated how much. 196 00:10:36.240 --> 00:10:36.679 It was. 197 00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:41.600 Twenty nine thousands. 198 00:10:41.840 --> 00:10:47.240 Okay, twenty nine to thirty one okay, so let's say 199 00:10:47.320 --> 00:10:49.840 thirty so around thirty what happened? 200 00:10:51.159 --> 00:10:54.559 So then we had we called the roofer and they 201 00:10:54.600 --> 00:10:57.080 came out and did estimate. 202 00:10:57.240 --> 00:11:00.000 And then when the roofer came out, when the roof 203 00:11:00.279 --> 00:11:02.720 came out, they came out on their own after the adjuster. 204 00:11:04.360 --> 00:11:06.720 Yeah, they came before, they came before that. 205 00:11:06.919 --> 00:11:10.039 Just again, oh okay, okay, what did the roofers say? 206 00:11:11.480 --> 00:11:14.200 So he said that the house was damaged pretty bad, 207 00:11:14.320 --> 00:11:16.639 So then they did did the roofer agree? 208 00:11:16.679 --> 00:11:20.000 When the roofer came out previously, what did the roofer 209 00:11:20.159 --> 00:11:21.720 estimate the damage at. 210 00:11:23.039 --> 00:11:26.360 I think was the twenty about twenty nine. 211 00:11:26.440 --> 00:11:29.279 And then well, well they're they're agreeing then, right, they're 212 00:11:29.320 --> 00:11:32.240 both agreeing. Yeah, yeah, So what's the problem now. 213 00:11:32.320 --> 00:11:35.559 I don't have any problem with the contractor. I'm having 214 00:11:35.559 --> 00:11:37.600 prone with the mortgage. 215 00:11:37.799 --> 00:11:38.840 Tell me what's going on. 216 00:11:40.080 --> 00:11:44.159 So the problem right now is that the first check 217 00:11:44.240 --> 00:11:47.519 that came, we sent. 218 00:11:47.440 --> 00:11:51.159 It to them, to the mortgage mortgage, and our mortgage. 219 00:11:50.720 --> 00:11:53.159 Is Round Point Mortgage mortgage. 220 00:11:53.360 --> 00:11:55.240 And we sent up the check to them. 221 00:11:55.039 --> 00:11:56.639 And they sent it back to say, Okay, you guys 222 00:11:56.679 --> 00:11:57.279 need to. 223 00:11:57.159 --> 00:11:59.919 Endorse the check. So me and my husband. 224 00:11:59.639 --> 00:12:01.600 Signed it, and then we send the. 225 00:12:01.639 --> 00:12:03.519 Check back to the mortgage mortgage. 226 00:12:03.919 --> 00:12:06.120 Yeah. That's the way. That's the way many of them work. 227 00:12:06.120 --> 00:12:08.279 Hold on, and I'll come right back to you. I 228 00:12:08.440 --> 00:12:10.559 just want to make sure of a few things. And 229 00:12:10.600 --> 00:12:15.279 I'm praying that the that you know that the roofers 230 00:12:15.360 --> 00:12:17.840 not bugging you for the first check. You should never 231 00:12:17.879 --> 00:12:20.399 give the first check to the roofer, nor should you 232 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:23.120 pay any big money down. And if a roofer says 233 00:12:23.120 --> 00:12:25.600 you need to ditch them, I don't care who they are. 234 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:28.320 I don't care who they are, do not use them. 235 00:12:28.600 --> 00:12:31.799 I'm Tom Martinez. Three oh three seven one three talks 236 00:12:31.840 --> 00:12:34.279 seven one three A two five five. 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So, Michelle, uh, 259 00:13:57.240 --> 00:14:00.679 you sent your check in to your more gage company 260 00:14:00.879 --> 00:14:02.879 and they haven't sent it back yet. Is that right? 261 00:14:03.879 --> 00:14:04.080 Yeah? 262 00:14:04.120 --> 00:14:06.759 So we sent the first check in and they returned 263 00:14:06.759 --> 00:14:09.320 that check back, and. 264 00:14:09.240 --> 00:14:12.080 I want to understand that they wanted you to sign it, 265 00:14:12.360 --> 00:14:14.360 and then you signed it and you sent it to 266 00:14:14.399 --> 00:14:17.279 the mortgage company. That's where we stand right now. Right 267 00:14:17.480 --> 00:14:20.279 your mortgage company has your first check, but they have 268 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:22.600 not sent you the proceeds. Is that correct? 269 00:14:23.399 --> 00:14:28.440 They have not finished the transaction because we have two checks. 270 00:14:29.120 --> 00:14:33.919 So the total of damage is about sixty thousand, Michelle. 271 00:14:33.919 --> 00:14:36.320 So the first you told me, they asked, oh wait, wait, wait, 272 00:14:36.799 --> 00:14:40.519 please help me here. You said, the adjuster estimated it 273 00:14:40.600 --> 00:14:41.840 at thirty grand. 274 00:14:43.000 --> 00:14:45.679 Okay, thirty was thirty glan. 275 00:14:45.799 --> 00:14:49.200 But it's not about the window too, so it's all 276 00:14:49.240 --> 00:14:51.159 the windows are damage to though. 277 00:14:51.559 --> 00:14:55.320 So Michelle, let me ask you another question. This is 278 00:14:55.399 --> 00:15:00.159 I want to know your total damage was sixty thousand dollars? 279 00:15:00.240 --> 00:15:00.759 Is that right? 280 00:15:01.120 --> 00:15:01.279 Yes? 281 00:15:01.759 --> 00:15:07.039 Yes, okay, now sixty thousand. And the roofer said the 282 00:15:07.159 --> 00:15:10.639 roof was thirty thousand. Did you get another estimate for 283 00:15:10.799 --> 00:15:12.559 the windows? 284 00:15:12.639 --> 00:15:17.159 Yes, we got so different contractors they could did. 285 00:15:16.960 --> 00:15:23.279 That, so so your contractors agreed. Okay, that's good. Okay, 286 00:15:23.360 --> 00:15:27.240 Now here's what I'm so. You got your first How 287 00:15:27.279 --> 00:15:32.720 many checks in total? Are is the mortgage company holding 288 00:15:32.879 --> 00:15:33.440 in total? 289 00:15:34.720 --> 00:15:38.320 So they're holding one check for thirty thousand? 290 00:15:38.879 --> 00:15:45.440 Okay, and that's all insurances. Hold on, that's all insurances paid, Michelle. 291 00:15:45.919 --> 00:15:49.240 Is that all insurance has paid so far? Or have 292 00:15:49.360 --> 00:15:50.960 they sent you more checks? 293 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:52.279 No? 294 00:15:52.399 --> 00:15:58.039 They have no insurance give us all the costs of 295 00:15:58.039 --> 00:16:01.480 the damage already. But now the mortgage is holding. 296 00:16:01.200 --> 00:16:04.519 Show you just told them? Okay? 297 00:16:05.159 --> 00:16:05.559 Hold on? 298 00:16:06.559 --> 00:16:07.639 Did I make you swear? 299 00:16:08.240 --> 00:16:08.320 No? 300 00:16:08.440 --> 00:16:12.559 You did not. You said all they're holding is thirty 301 00:16:12.639 --> 00:16:15.279 thousand dollars. That's all you've been paid. Now you tell 302 00:16:15.279 --> 00:16:16.600 me you've been paid for everything? 303 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:18.039 No? 304 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:20.840 Okay, So let me see this again. 305 00:16:21.320 --> 00:16:23.240 The cause of all the damace. 306 00:16:22.840 --> 00:16:24.320 Should be sixty thousand. 307 00:16:25.720 --> 00:16:28.399 The first check, the two. 308 00:16:28.240 --> 00:16:31.240 Checks that we sent out to them to have been 309 00:16:31.320 --> 00:16:37.200 signed and send it back, one was for two thousand 310 00:16:37.279 --> 00:16:39.240 and one was for twenty seven thousand. 311 00:16:39.360 --> 00:16:41.039 That's like close to thirty thousand. 312 00:16:41.720 --> 00:16:43.440 And then the third check that we sent to the 313 00:16:43.559 --> 00:16:46.200 mortgage was another thirty thousand. 314 00:16:47.120 --> 00:16:49.320 Okay, and then I need to. 315 00:16:49.240 --> 00:16:52.120 Know, Michelle. Here's what I need to know. How many 316 00:16:52.240 --> 00:16:56.440 checks have you, not your mortgage company, have you received 317 00:16:56.679 --> 00:17:00.200 and deposited in your bank or given to a contract 318 00:17:00.440 --> 00:17:01.919 How many checks for how much? 319 00:17:03.440 --> 00:17:04.839 Okay, so we got. 320 00:17:05.160 --> 00:17:08.920 No, Michelle, Michelle, that's a number. That's not a discussion. 321 00:17:09.279 --> 00:17:14.480 How many How much money have you actually received in 322 00:17:14.599 --> 00:17:18.000 your bank account or that you paid to the contractor. 323 00:17:18.200 --> 00:17:22.440 I'm not counting the mortgage company. How much money have 324 00:17:22.559 --> 00:17:23.759 you received? 325 00:17:25.920 --> 00:17:29.559 Let's see seven thousand plus thirty thousand? 326 00:17:30.519 --> 00:17:37.480 There you have received personally so far thirty seven thousand, Yes, yes, okay, 327 00:17:37.599 --> 00:17:41.880 got And did you pay that money out? Did you 328 00:17:42.119 --> 00:17:44.720 pay that money out to the contractors? 329 00:17:45.559 --> 00:17:48.680 Yes, we pay almost all the money. 330 00:17:48.400 --> 00:17:49.319 To the contractor. 331 00:17:49.599 --> 00:17:53.680 Good. And has all of the work been done? 332 00:17:54.000 --> 00:17:56.160 All the windows are done except for. 333 00:17:56.079 --> 00:17:57.240 The okay, good? 334 00:17:57.400 --> 00:17:59.599 How about the roof? How about the roof? 335 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:01.119 The roof is complete? 336 00:18:01.640 --> 00:18:02.759 Good? Good? Good? 337 00:18:02.799 --> 00:18:03.000 Good. 338 00:18:03.079 --> 00:18:06.640 Now, so what we have now is your final payments 339 00:18:06.720 --> 00:18:11.079 being withheld by the insurance company, which amounts from your 340 00:18:11.119 --> 00:18:16.319 math to about twenty three thousand. Yes, okay, so why 341 00:18:16.400 --> 00:18:19.119 won't they send you that money to pay off the bill? 342 00:18:20.279 --> 00:18:24.000 So every time we called, yeah, we always give a 343 00:18:24.079 --> 00:18:28.759 different customer service rep. And each of the rep would 344 00:18:28.799 --> 00:18:30.119 tell me a different story. 345 00:18:30.720 --> 00:18:32.920 Well, like, give me, give me an example of a 346 00:18:33.000 --> 00:18:36.519 story of why they won't send you your money. Okay, 347 00:18:36.519 --> 00:18:39.359 if you if your if your work is done, and 348 00:18:39.400 --> 00:18:43.720 you sign those checks, why won't they Why won't they 349 00:18:43.759 --> 00:18:45.759 release the funds? 350 00:18:46.079 --> 00:18:49.160 I am not sure. But when I talk to Windy, 351 00:18:49.359 --> 00:18:52.359 which is a rep over there, he said, we are 352 00:18:52.440 --> 00:18:58.240 missing some signatures on her on the form, and I 353 00:18:58.319 --> 00:18:59.119 asked her if. 354 00:18:58.960 --> 00:19:02.839 She can and that's crazy. So they're holding twenty three 355 00:19:02.920 --> 00:19:07.440 grand and how long? Tell me? Is that what you owe? 356 00:19:07.839 --> 00:19:09.680 Or are you going to have money left over? It 357 00:19:09.720 --> 00:19:11.279 doesn't matter to me. I just need to know. 358 00:19:12.359 --> 00:19:13.160 So that's how. 359 00:19:13.119 --> 00:19:16.240 Much money that I need to pay the contract to. 360 00:19:16.440 --> 00:19:18.000 Ask as all of damage. 361 00:19:17.640 --> 00:19:18.279 In my garden? 362 00:19:18.920 --> 00:19:22.000 I get it. Now, what can we do? Do you 363 00:19:22.079 --> 00:19:24.440 want us to call that mortgage company? There is no 364 00:19:24.599 --> 00:19:28.200 reason in the world they should be keeping your money. 365 00:19:29.759 --> 00:19:32.160 So every time I talked to a different personnel, they 366 00:19:32.160 --> 00:19:36.559 will also tell me that we are missing the adjuster worksheet, 367 00:19:37.599 --> 00:19:38.559 and they wanted. 368 00:19:38.480 --> 00:19:40.759 Well, it's their adjuster, not yours. 369 00:19:42.279 --> 00:19:45.240 Yes, and we submitted to worksheet three times to them. 370 00:19:45.359 --> 00:19:46.839 They keep saying that they don't get it. 371 00:19:46.920 --> 00:19:48.920 All right, we need to get to the bottom of this. 372 00:19:49.079 --> 00:19:52.400 Hold on a second. We just need to call them 373 00:19:52.440 --> 00:19:57.440 and say, stop jerking these people around. That to me, 374 00:19:57.759 --> 00:20:01.720 would be the smartest thing to do. Stop jerking these 375 00:20:01.759 --> 00:20:07.119 people around right now, Hold on, a deputy, d to you, 376 00:20:07.240 --> 00:20:12.119 are you inundated with cases? I'm not inundated at all. Right, 377 00:20:12.200 --> 00:20:15.759 Let's take let's what's the name of your mortgage company? 378 00:20:17.799 --> 00:20:19.599 Point? Mortgage? 379 00:20:20.039 --> 00:20:21.640 What Point? What say it again, dear? 380 00:20:22.720 --> 00:20:24.559 Brown Point is in South Carolina? 381 00:20:25.000 --> 00:20:31.680 Brown Point? Okay, yeah, all right. We will call them 382 00:20:31.960 --> 00:20:33.160 and is that two words? 383 00:20:34.680 --> 00:20:34.799 Uh? 384 00:20:35.039 --> 00:20:36.240 Round point is one word? 385 00:20:36.559 --> 00:20:39.319 Okay, got it? All right. We're gonna call them and 386 00:20:39.519 --> 00:20:43.880 basically say, what the heck are you doing? Okay, So 387 00:20:44.039 --> 00:20:48.240 hold on, I'm Tom Martino. People. I want to say 388 00:20:48.279 --> 00:20:50.440 a few things. It sounds like she didn't get burned. 389 00:20:50.519 --> 00:20:53.319 She probably dealt with good contractors. The work's almost done, 390 00:20:53.720 --> 00:20:56.160 the windows are done. She wants to pay her bills. 391 00:20:56.400 --> 00:20:59.720 Plus she has some money for garden damage. Mortgage companies 392 00:20:59.759 --> 00:21:03.240 all and play games like this and it sucks. So 393 00:21:03.359 --> 00:21:05.160 you hang on and we're going to call for her 394 00:21:05.519 --> 00:21:08.200 three oh three seven to one three talk seven to 395 00:21:08.200 --> 00:21:12.079 one three eight two five five. I'd like to tell 396 00:21:12.160 --> 00:21:16.519 you about Frank Duran, the real Estate Man dot com. 397 00:21:16.559 --> 00:21:19.720 If you're looking for a market analysis of your home 398 00:21:19.920 --> 00:21:23.039 and what it will sell for. 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I do have some texts if you 417 00:22:27.519 --> 00:22:29.880 want to text us questions, you can call in as well. 418 00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:33.200 You can text us on my Google number seven four 419 00:22:33.319 --> 00:22:36.279 seven nine nine nine fifty two eighty seven four seven 420 00:22:36.359 --> 00:22:40.880 nine nine nine fifty two eighty or the iHeart short 421 00:22:40.920 --> 00:22:45.200 code five seven seven three nine. Right now, Jamie has 422 00:22:45.319 --> 00:22:48.880 a question or an issue with Annie's pet salon. Jamie, 423 00:22:48.960 --> 00:22:49.720 what's going on? 424 00:22:51.400 --> 00:22:51.640 Yeah? 425 00:22:51.880 --> 00:22:54.839 Uh, you guys just contacted me about this. 426 00:22:56.759 --> 00:23:00.200 Yeah, no, I called doc. You called with a you 427 00:23:00.240 --> 00:23:02.440 called with a problem, no doubt. What's going on? 428 00:23:03.200 --> 00:23:06.039 Well, I have three little dogs that I've been taking 429 00:23:06.039 --> 00:23:10.279 there since they were babies, Okay, and I took them 430 00:23:10.359 --> 00:23:13.440 out of that salon right before I saw the video. 431 00:23:15.319 --> 00:23:17.559 I took them to another groom er in the other groom. 432 00:23:17.960 --> 00:23:19.720 What video are you talking about? 433 00:23:20.240 --> 00:23:23.039 There's a video that's going viral on the next door 434 00:23:23.079 --> 00:23:27.160 neighbor hood thing. Okay, and I guess they said that, 435 00:23:27.480 --> 00:23:28.079 and what was. 436 00:23:28.039 --> 00:23:29.559 The video about. 437 00:23:30.319 --> 00:23:32.720 Well, there was a poodle, an eight month old poodle 438 00:23:32.759 --> 00:23:36.799 in there, and this lady was you know, just yanked 439 00:23:36.920 --> 00:23:40.519 his arm or her arm. It was Rosa. Is the 440 00:23:40.559 --> 00:23:41.240 dog's name? 441 00:23:42.039 --> 00:23:42.400 Okay? 442 00:23:42.559 --> 00:23:43.400 Under the look. 443 00:23:44.039 --> 00:23:47.880 Yeah, the dog pulled back. Okay, it's our next door neighbor. 444 00:23:48.359 --> 00:23:50.279 I've got it on my phone, you know. 445 00:23:50.319 --> 00:23:53.279 I called that store, right okay. And it was a poodle. 446 00:23:54.519 --> 00:23:57.480 It was an eight month old poodle. And then when 447 00:23:57.519 --> 00:24:01.519 the dog yanked back, you know, his his paw, she 448 00:24:01.759 --> 00:24:07.920 just started choking him. It's not funny, you know, because 449 00:24:07.960 --> 00:24:10.720 no it's not. I mean no, I know my dogs 450 00:24:10.720 --> 00:24:13.720 were being abused there because they kept telling me that 451 00:24:13.960 --> 00:24:15.279 I was the problem they were there. 452 00:24:15.359 --> 00:24:18.000 Well then don't well then don't take them there anymore. 453 00:24:18.039 --> 00:24:21.160 But I'm looking and I can't find I can't find 454 00:24:21.160 --> 00:24:22.720 the post anywhere about it. 455 00:24:22.759 --> 00:24:30.279 But ver Era Herrera h E R R A R A. 456 00:24:30.519 --> 00:24:33.039 I think that's who posted it. 457 00:24:33.119 --> 00:24:36.119 They said that they took it. They they took the 458 00:24:36.240 --> 00:24:38.759 video down. I've got it on my phone though. 459 00:24:39.359 --> 00:24:40.960 So what's the first name on Herrera? 460 00:24:42.119 --> 00:24:43.079 I think it's Laura. 461 00:24:44.200 --> 00:24:48.839 Laura. Okay, Well, anyway, so what are you calling about? 462 00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:49.119 Will? 463 00:24:49.359 --> 00:24:53.960 There was another. It was another groomer that filmed this, okay, 464 00:24:54.000 --> 00:24:58.119 because I guess she got upset and she filmed this, 465 00:24:58.559 --> 00:25:00.799 posted it and it just went viral. 466 00:25:01.519 --> 00:25:04.359 Well for something going viral and I can't find it, 467 00:25:04.359 --> 00:25:08.839 it can't be that viral. But our affiliate, our affiliate 468 00:25:08.960 --> 00:25:14.960 has it up KRD card springs, Okay, krd O. Let 469 00:25:14.960 --> 00:25:18.240 me find it because I can't find it. I got 470 00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:21.799 the video, all right, lady, we hear you. Geez Okay, 471 00:25:21.839 --> 00:25:23.720 I'm gonna put it up, but I want to know something. 472 00:25:23.759 --> 00:25:25.559 Where'd you find Can you send me the link to 473 00:25:25.599 --> 00:25:28.440 the video. Send it right now, so on text so 474 00:25:28.480 --> 00:25:31.400 I can put it up anyway. Tell me what you're 475 00:25:31.400 --> 00:25:33.960 calling about. Thank you for telling us this, Jamie. What 476 00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:35.160 are you calling about now? 477 00:25:35.799 --> 00:25:38.240 Well, I'm just trying to you know, you know, I 478 00:25:38.359 --> 00:25:41.200 just don't want that to happen to anybody else's dogs. 479 00:25:41.599 --> 00:25:44.839 You know, I've got I've got really good little dogs. 480 00:25:44.920 --> 00:25:49.000 But you know, they convinced me that I was the problem, 481 00:25:49.200 --> 00:25:52.039 and I wasn't. You know, I've had them to it. 482 00:25:53.960 --> 00:25:56.000 They're looking into it and they're going to find out. 483 00:25:56.119 --> 00:25:57.920 I don't know, man, I look at the video. I 484 00:25:57.960 --> 00:25:59.960 sure wouldn't want it to be my dog. Don't get 485 00:26:00.200 --> 00:26:04.680 me wrong, but it's not like I don't know, it's 486 00:26:04.680 --> 00:26:07.880 not good, but it's not like they're beating it. 487 00:26:07.880 --> 00:26:09.480 It's like rough handling. Mark. 488 00:26:10.119 --> 00:26:12.880 Yeah, if it was my dog, i'd be definitely pissed. 489 00:26:12.920 --> 00:26:14.960 So don't get me wrong, but it's not as bad 490 00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:18.480 as what I thought I was going to see. The 491 00:26:19.160 --> 00:26:21.839 authorities are involved. They're doing a full blown invent. 492 00:26:22.319 --> 00:26:23.000 Send me the link. 493 00:26:23.160 --> 00:26:25.880 Yeah, I just emailed it to you. 494 00:26:25.559 --> 00:26:28.319 Killed owner didn't think that there was a problem with it, 495 00:26:28.359 --> 00:26:29.799 and she was the one that we're. 496 00:26:29.640 --> 00:26:32.480 Gonna look at it. Okay, So anyway, bottom line here, 497 00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:35.519 what do you want done? 498 00:26:38.160 --> 00:26:40.400 I just want to warn people. You know, I would 499 00:26:40.440 --> 00:26:43.000 have never taken my dog's there, you know if I 500 00:26:43.039 --> 00:26:44.960 knew that they were being treated that way. 501 00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:47.240 And they who took this video? I want who took 502 00:26:47.240 --> 00:26:47.680 the video? 503 00:26:49.079 --> 00:26:53.960 Another rumor and they've all quit, I guess because they 504 00:26:53.960 --> 00:26:55.759 don't want to be associated with that. 505 00:26:57.079 --> 00:27:00.119 Okay, hold on, you know, look, okay, I see what 506 00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:04.880 Mark is saying. Does that look like that that the 507 00:27:05.000 --> 00:27:07.640 first I mean they're holding the dog snout? I mean, 508 00:27:07.680 --> 00:27:10.559 but I mean, my god, I was expecting and listen, 509 00:27:10.799 --> 00:27:14.319 like I said, like Mark said, it's a little rough, 510 00:27:14.359 --> 00:27:16.920 but my god, I mean, I don't know if okay, 511 00:27:16.960 --> 00:27:20.559 let me say here. Then they keep flashing back from it. 512 00:27:22.359 --> 00:27:23.279 Where okay? Where? 513 00:27:25.039 --> 00:27:27.880 Well? The thing is is that my dogs were traumatized there. 514 00:27:28.440 --> 00:27:28.720 You know. 515 00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:35.000 My dogs are traumatized. Any glomors Mark Mark, Mark, Mark, 516 00:27:35.119 --> 00:27:35.559 I'm not. 517 00:27:35.599 --> 00:27:43.000 Okay, I'm not to see Okay, Okay, to see it, 518 00:27:43.319 --> 00:27:43.799 I would not. 519 00:27:44.079 --> 00:27:44.519 I would not. 520 00:27:46.720 --> 00:27:49.440 I I hate to tell you this, but she's not 521 00:27:49.559 --> 00:27:52.400 hurting the dog. I mean, I thought I was going 522 00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:55.079 to see massive cruelty here. She's not hurting that dog. 523 00:27:56.079 --> 00:27:58.319 I'm not putting the video up. I mean, well maybe 524 00:27:58.319 --> 00:28:01.480 I should. I got to see if I can't, first put. 525 00:28:01.359 --> 00:28:02.960 It up, and I'll do a poll on it and 526 00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:04.960 we'll get people's reactions. 527 00:28:05.279 --> 00:28:06.720 Let me see if I can get it up here 528 00:28:06.759 --> 00:28:09.559 on there, all right, Listen, I got to take a break. 529 00:28:09.559 --> 00:28:11.319 I'll see if I get it up. Listen, I don't, 530 00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:14.599 so you see if you can get it up, here's 531 00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:19.160 the thing, here's the thing. Alhaha, Jamie, listen, I understand 532 00:28:19.200 --> 00:28:22.440 you're upset, but at least now you know that's not 533 00:28:22.519 --> 00:28:25.319 the place you want to take your dog. And don't 534 00:28:25.359 --> 00:28:28.640 take it, but there's nothing you can do in retrospect, 535 00:28:28.759 --> 00:28:33.119 right right, right, I mean, just don't take up there. 536 00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:38.200 Anymore problem because yeah, they're just uh, you know, I 537 00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:38.599 get it. 538 00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:42.279 You feel vindicated, is what you're saying. And I get it, 539 00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:45.720 I really do. I'm Tom Martine. Three oh three seven 540 00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:47.960 one three talk seven one three eight two five five. 541 00:28:47.960 --> 00:28:50.839 Don't forget Compass Insurance. Compare your insurance, make sure you're 542 00:28:50.839 --> 00:28:53.240 not paying too much. 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Hi Tom, Martino here, welcome to the show. 555 00:29:43.079 --> 00:29:47.200 So if you're streaming our show, we've been showing our 556 00:29:47.240 --> 00:29:49.839 sister station there for that that runs a that they 557 00:29:49.880 --> 00:29:52.000 run a radio show and there they have a TV station, 558 00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:57.319 Channel thirteen and Colorado Springs KABC affiliate, and that we're 559 00:29:57.359 --> 00:30:01.319 showing a video of this dog groomer and I you know, look, 560 00:30:01.960 --> 00:30:04.799 I think I wouldn't want my dog there, but it's 561 00:30:05.559 --> 00:30:08.680 I don't think it's classified as cruelty. That's my opinion. 562 00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:13.240 I don't either. Some rough handling. I don't like it. Oh, 563 00:30:13.240 --> 00:30:17.119 it's definitely rough. Well yeah, but it's not even extremely 564 00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:20.039 I mean, look, I'm not saying, you know, keep doing it, 565 00:30:20.079 --> 00:30:24.279 but people just have such a way of exaggerating. Three 566 00:30:24.359 --> 00:30:26.480 h three seven to one three talks seven one three 567 00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:32.039 eight two five five. Now, Barry Miller, I know we're 568 00:30:32.079 --> 00:30:34.400 going to a break callers, hang on. I want to 569 00:30:34.400 --> 00:30:38.680 give you time to really talk. I promise you. Deputy 570 00:30:38.720 --> 00:30:41.319 Demetrios and follow ups as well, but I want to 571 00:30:41.359 --> 00:30:44.359 talk to Barry right now. And I wanted to ask 572 00:30:44.440 --> 00:30:47.400 him because I have a question here, Barry, have you 573 00:30:47.480 --> 00:30:51.039 ever had what happens when properties go down in value? 574 00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:54.200 Like it they can happen with adjustments. Have you ever 575 00:30:54.240 --> 00:30:59.880 had that happen during Vestera turnkey? Vestera turnkey, he researches markets, 576 00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:03.680 helps you buy into a property, He serves as your broker, 577 00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:07.240 and then he monitors that. He has a management company 578 00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:09.519 he does business with that takes care of the rentals 579 00:31:09.559 --> 00:31:11.839 for you. They even can take the phone calls for you. 580 00:31:12.359 --> 00:31:14.759 They basically make you a landlord without the hassle or 581 00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:17.920 conventional risk. But someone wants to know what's to prevent 582 00:31:18.200 --> 00:31:19.920 from losing money when I go to sell it. 583 00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:23.960 Well, we have never had it happen in five years 584 00:31:24.039 --> 00:31:28.359 since we've been reactive, and then from three until oh eight, 585 00:31:28.480 --> 00:31:32.240 we also didn't have it happen until the Great Recession occurred, 586 00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:35.920 and then it happened universally. But we knew about that 587 00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:40.319 also in advanced and did you get people out? We 588 00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:43.519 got dozens of people out. They you know, marvel at 589 00:31:43.839 --> 00:31:46.720 how we did that. Couple people, a handful of people 590 00:31:46.839 --> 00:31:50.519 didn't did not choose to get out in Florida, but 591 00:31:50.599 --> 00:31:54.200 they were buying properties at twelve fifteen thousand, they were 592 00:31:54.279 --> 00:31:57.279 up to sixty thousand, they came down to thirty thousand. 593 00:31:57.640 --> 00:32:00.640 Then they got out and they still tripled their money. However, 594 00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:06.039 since twenty nineteen we haven't even come close to any 595 00:32:06.240 --> 00:32:11.279 annual or quarterly drop in property. The research is stellar, 596 00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:16.440 very good. It was prior, but since twenty nineteen, no, no, 597 00:32:16.920 --> 00:32:20.119 can it happen, of course, But frankly we say it 598 00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:23.680 this way. It'll take a local nine to eleven event 599 00:32:24.039 --> 00:32:27.839 to occur for those properties to go down and give. 600 00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:29.559 Me an idea of one of them, one of them. 601 00:32:29.880 --> 00:32:32.559 Go ahead, Mark, give me an idea, barry of one 602 00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:34.839 of them. You've done in the past year. A piece 603 00:32:34.839 --> 00:32:37.799 of property, what city it's in, how much you guys 604 00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:38.440 paid for it? 605 00:32:38.519 --> 00:32:39.599 What's it worth? Now? 606 00:32:39.799 --> 00:32:42.559 How much did people make? I mean, I don't understand 607 00:32:42.599 --> 00:32:45.680 your plan, to be quite honest. Oh we're gonna we'll 608 00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:47.000 walk you through it next hour. 609 00:32:47.039 --> 00:32:50.240 But let's talk about Okay, that sounds an example, But 610 00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:52.440 right now, though, give an example of a game you 611 00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:52.799 can get. 612 00:32:53.079 --> 00:32:55.440 Yeah, we don't give the cities up, Mark, but it's 613 00:32:55.480 --> 00:32:58.480 North Carolina is one of our hotspots. 614 00:32:58.599 --> 00:33:00.799 Okay, area US an example. 615 00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:08.319 Okay paid two eighty five just October twenty twenty three. 616 00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:12.519 That, yeah, God, we have pictures to eighty five. 617 00:33:12.920 --> 00:33:20.240 That home today is at approximately three thirty five. That's 618 00:33:20.359 --> 00:33:23.160 the math that we do, Ben Ray, how many people 619 00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:24.880 are involved in that house? 620 00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:28.920 One person per property? Mark if unless you and your 621 00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:30.440 wife want to do it, or you and me want 622 00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:30.720 to do it. 623 00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:32.559 Now this was a husband and wife. 624 00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:35.200 But the point is Mark, and we'll go through that. Yeah, 625 00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:38.799 I know, it's not a group of people buying into 626 00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:42.279 a rate or real estate investment trust. It is not, 627 00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:44.960 as a matter of fact. So I want to go 628 00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:47.119 over that because people as. 629 00:33:46.839 --> 00:33:49.799 The average house increase in that area, is that on 630 00:33:49.960 --> 00:33:51.200 par with everything else? 631 00:33:51.319 --> 00:33:53.039 Or you guys did that's fixed? 632 00:33:53.079 --> 00:33:58.160 And magic of our research Mark, Our annual appreciation that 633 00:33:58.200 --> 00:34:03.519 we use as a is twelve to fourteen percent. Now, 634 00:34:04.119 --> 00:34:08.320 however those neighborhoods are going up fifteen to nineteen percent 635 00:34:08.679 --> 00:34:09.480 in reality. 636 00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:12.360 To answer your question, Mark, it's not just the houses 637 00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:16.960 he buys. He researches markets that where they see a 638 00:34:17.039 --> 00:34:20.960 depression in prices. Yeah, they're under the pot and potential 639 00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:25.360 for great appreciation. So we'll talk about that. Though it 640 00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:27.639 is a good idea in market. Sing Now I don't 641 00:34:27.719 --> 00:34:30.119 understand completely, And he asks a question, A lot of 642 00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:32.280 people do am I buying in with a bunch of 643 00:34:32.320 --> 00:34:34.599 people and you know what. Yeh, that's a great question. Well, 644 00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:36.320 we'll talk about that and more coming up on The 645 00:34:36.320 --> 00:34:39.719 Troubleshooter Show. 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You'll think you're his only 653 00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:11.119 customer when you choose Frank durand the Real Estate Man 654 00:35:11.159 --> 00:35:14.639 dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance three 655 00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:16.719 oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. 656 00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:23.519 Yeah, ripped tough. 657 00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:27.519 News ned adviy So you. 658 00:35:27.519 --> 00:35:28.239 Don't have the. 659 00:35:30.119 --> 00:35:32.559 Come run insous as fast as we can. 660 00:35:33.320 --> 00:35:37.880 Shooter's gonna help coming Man. 661 00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:44.360 Six is The Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martino, Hi Tom Martino. 662 00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:47.519 Three oh three seven one three Talk three oh three 663 00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:51.480 seven one three eight two five five. Welcome to the show. 664 00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:54.320 We're here to help you by solving problems, answering questions, 665 00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:59.159 taking complaints, and we have all kinds of things going on. 666 00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:01.159 So let's go right to Barry Miller's with me. 667 00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:05.199 Yes, can I please have the cat cat? 668 00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:06.400 Oh? 669 00:36:06.519 --> 00:36:10.639 Yeah, you like the cat people are Okay, that's Princess, 670 00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:12.599 my daughter's cat. My daughter lives here. 671 00:36:13.320 --> 00:36:14.480 Princess. 672 00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:19.559 Yes, that's so, my daughter's cat. And and she loves 673 00:36:19.559 --> 00:36:22.400 coming down here. She loves Dmitri. Now she likes me 674 00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:24.599 a little, but she loves Dmitri. I think she knows 675 00:36:24.679 --> 00:36:28.559 Dmitri has a couple of cats. And then so when 676 00:36:28.599 --> 00:36:32.119 my daughter's off at work or school or whatever, she 677 00:36:32.239 --> 00:36:35.119 comes down here to say hi to us. Well, she 678 00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:36.519 has made herself at home. 679 00:36:36.920 --> 00:36:42.000 Adam, wold not let me replace the cat cat? So 680 00:36:42.039 --> 00:36:44.440 what do you mean kidnap yours? 681 00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:47.199 Okay, well, she's she's kind of a sweet cat, but 682 00:36:47.559 --> 00:36:51.239 she is she she likes coming down when we're here, 683 00:36:51.519 --> 00:36:54.800 and normally she's framed out. But I can't frame I 684 00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:59.719 assume she doesn't go outside at all. No, no, no, no, yeah, 685 00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:01.840 you know I used to let cats out when I 686 00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:03.599 was in the country. But Mark, you know it's hard. 687 00:37:03.599 --> 00:37:05.920 You have cats and they don't last lost. If we've 688 00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:09.199 lost a couple that way, So we had barncats, we'd 689 00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:12.519 keep in the barn, or we have housecats. We learned 690 00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:16.559 that you just can't do that anymore. Anyway, you can 691 00:37:16.639 --> 00:37:17.840 tell the personality. 692 00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:20.559 We've had one that I don't think w whatever get 693 00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:23.519 killed by coyotes, but other ones they just get suckered in. 694 00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:27.360 Man. Yeah, I want to bring I want to bring 695 00:37:27.440 --> 00:37:31.199 up a couple of things. Here we have Jeanette. Two 696 00:37:31.239 --> 00:37:35.199 weeks ago she called in with a car sale with Dmitri. Dmitri, 697 00:37:35.400 --> 00:37:38.000 just can you recap the problem please? 698 00:37:38.559 --> 00:37:38.760 Yeah. 699 00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:42.400 Jeanette bought a Jeep from Driving Motion up in Greeley, 700 00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:46.280 and according to Jeanette, they warned her that this car 701 00:37:46.360 --> 00:37:50.519 won't pass the missions because it needs an ABS module. 702 00:37:50.639 --> 00:37:52.360 Well, which of course doesn't have anything to do with 703 00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:55.039 the mission. But what's really funny is you're here, you're right. 704 00:37:55.159 --> 00:37:59.119 But what's really funny is they're not supposed to sell 705 00:37:59.159 --> 00:38:02.159 it that way. It's a tollway. And she said it 706 00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:04.559 wasn't sold as a tollway well. 707 00:38:04.719 --> 00:38:10.360 And furthermore, Jeannette went on to repair the ABS module 708 00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:13.039 at the expense of I think she said, fifteen hundred dollars. 709 00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:17.159 And of course the car still want pass emissions now where. 710 00:38:17.239 --> 00:38:19.360 They never gave her the three day voucher to go 711 00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:20.039 get it done. 712 00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:22.840 They got the they gave her the voucher, but unfortunately 713 00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:25.719 they gave her that story allegedly, so she didn't have 714 00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:28.760 it in the first three So that's the effects of 715 00:38:28.760 --> 00:38:32.199 that story delayed her getting emission test. 716 00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:34.440 Yeah, but unless she can prove that, yeah, it was 717 00:38:34.719 --> 00:38:37.760 a stalling tactic. If she got a three day voucher 718 00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:40.800 and she did not have it tested within that three days, 719 00:38:41.079 --> 00:38:43.320 they're going to have a very tough time. She's going 720 00:38:43.400 --> 00:38:43.960 to agree. 721 00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:49.800 I agree, and I made I would say five calls 722 00:38:49.840 --> 00:38:52.480 to Drive in Motion, including one about ten minutes ago 723 00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:56.800 asking him to either talk to me where this is 724 00:38:56.840 --> 00:38:57.960 their Greeley store. 725 00:38:58.079 --> 00:39:01.519 Well, Greeley, Weld County has the worst car dealers in 726 00:39:01.519 --> 00:39:04.639 the universe anyway, the worst ever and is Long Mountain 727 00:39:04.679 --> 00:39:10.480 Weel County. But they're all you know, they're all they sucked, 728 00:39:10.519 --> 00:39:16.119 they all suck. And again, so basically she needs to 729 00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:19.599 go to the state dealer licensing board. Yeah, I mean, 730 00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:23.960 except they're going to say, wait a minute, you got 731 00:39:23.960 --> 00:39:26.480 the three day voucher and you didn't have it done. 732 00:39:26.599 --> 00:39:30.440 But if we can prove that the problem causing it 733 00:39:30.519 --> 00:39:36.719 not to pass was obviously not recent, maybe we can 734 00:39:36.760 --> 00:39:39.599 make that argument. What is the problem causing it not 735 00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:40.400 to fail a mission? 736 00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:42.239 Well, I think that's why Jeanette is on the phone 737 00:39:42.280 --> 00:39:45.280 because she's had some experiences with mechanics recently. 738 00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:48.800 Find out Jeanette, Well, I. 739 00:39:48.800 --> 00:39:54.119 Did take the voucher. The person at the admissions place 740 00:39:54.239 --> 00:39:58.280 did take my voucher after I explained to them the situation. 741 00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:02.119 It did well, sure, but it didn't right, No, it 742 00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:04.679 didn't pass. 743 00:40:04.800 --> 00:40:06.719 But what was the reason it didn't pass? 744 00:40:10.199 --> 00:40:13.880 They said that there's fumes coming from the the. 745 00:40:16.039 --> 00:40:16.960 Gas ap. 746 00:40:19.119 --> 00:40:20.639 Cat area. 747 00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:25.960 That's it. It could be just the overflow. There's an 748 00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:29.599 overflow tube that gets plugged, and then there's bad gas caps. 749 00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:33.320 That could be really minimum. I don't understand, though, Do 750 00:40:33.360 --> 00:40:36.760 you have any proof that they told you that it 751 00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:38.199 would not pass emissions? 752 00:40:42.079 --> 00:40:44.480 I believe it's on my paperwork. 753 00:40:44.840 --> 00:40:47.719 Because that would be the oddest deal I've ever seen. 754 00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:51.119 They give you a three day coupon saying go get 755 00:40:51.159 --> 00:40:54.880 it tested. It will pass. That's what the coupon basically says, 756 00:40:54.960 --> 00:40:58.079 and if not, we'll take it back. Yet, on the paperwork, 757 00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:02.320 it says this vehicle will not pass emissions. So that 758 00:41:02.519 --> 00:41:05.000 is a dichotomy that does not make sense to me. 759 00:41:05.239 --> 00:41:06.960 So here's what we're going to do. Send me your 760 00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:09.360 deal paperwork. I want to see where that's written, and 761 00:41:09.400 --> 00:41:11.880 then we can help you. Three oh three seven one 762 00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:14.000 three talk three oh three seven one three A two 763 00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:16.960 five five. When people tell me they got paperwork, that's 764 00:41:17.000 --> 00:41:18.960 where I stop. I got to see the paperwork. If 765 00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:22.519 it's written this will not pass emissions, then it's going 766 00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:26.280 to be the weirdest deal I've ever seen. That they 767 00:41:26.320 --> 00:41:29.239 give her a three day coupon to get it and 768 00:41:29.320 --> 00:41:32.119 tested when they told her ahead of time it would 769 00:41:32.119 --> 00:41:34.719 not pass How many want to take my side? Bet 770 00:41:34.920 --> 00:41:38.960 that she does not have such a clause in her paperwork. Anybody, 771 00:41:40.079 --> 00:41:43.400 There's no way a dealer can be that stupid. Three 772 00:41:43.480 --> 00:41:45.920 O three seven one three talk seven one three A 773 00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:49.559 two five five. Now, my deputy Bow has been working 774 00:41:49.960 --> 00:41:54.360 with someone. He had an issue with Mike Marony Chevrolet. 775 00:41:54.880 --> 00:41:57.079 What was it, bo that you were helping with? 776 00:41:57.559 --> 00:41:57.800 Yeah? 777 00:41:57.920 --> 00:42:00.039 From from the eleventh Yeah. 778 00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:04.360 Called in on the eleventh he bought a new truck 779 00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:10.400 from Mike Marony Chevrolet, and he discovered a paint defect 780 00:42:10.440 --> 00:42:13.920 in a rocker panel in the door, but he waited, 781 00:42:14.199 --> 00:42:16.159 you know, he bought the car, the truck in twenty 782 00:42:16.199 --> 00:42:19.920 twenty three. He talked to the sales manager there and. 783 00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:22.519 Did I take the caller? Did Mark? I don't seem 784 00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:24.480 to have it in my notes, do you. 785 00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:26.719 Know normally I write that down. 786 00:42:26.800 --> 00:42:29.280 I think I took that. Okay, good, Okay. 787 00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:33.679 They go ahead, okay, both So the sales manager Jimmy there, 788 00:42:33.840 --> 00:42:37.440 they came to negotiation where they were just going to 789 00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:41.400 give him sixteen hundred dollars okay for the paint. But 790 00:42:42.320 --> 00:42:46.079 as usual, there's always two sides of this story. And 791 00:42:46.239 --> 00:42:50.199 the manager, this Jimmy guy left the dealership. 792 00:42:49.679 --> 00:42:51.599 So it was kind of what he said, she said, 793 00:42:51.639 --> 00:42:55.679 So he was calling for about a few months. I've called. 794 00:42:55.760 --> 00:42:58.480 I had to write a letter to Mike Maroney himself, 795 00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:05.519 and he did have his uh sales the general manager, 796 00:43:05.639 --> 00:43:09.079 Daniel write me a letter back, and I forwarded the 797 00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:14.480 pat Since the manager, the sales manager's gone, they can 798 00:43:14.639 --> 00:43:17.960 deal with the defect, but he has to file acclaim 799 00:43:17.960 --> 00:43:21.320 with It's a general motors issue, not a dealer issue, 800 00:43:21.320 --> 00:43:25.559 and it's clearly stated in his paperwork. Also, they charged 801 00:43:25.599 --> 00:43:29.400 him nine dollars for a seal coat on his truck. 802 00:43:29.519 --> 00:43:32.320 But Pat the caller never received the seal coat. 803 00:43:32.679 --> 00:43:34.360 So the man they're going to read are they going 804 00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:35.360 to read the manager? 805 00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:38.199 The general manager, Mike Maroney wrote me. 806 00:43:38.199 --> 00:43:38.880 A nice letter. 807 00:43:38.920 --> 00:43:39.679 Sitting there. 808 00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:43.519 They're they're going to Mike Mike Maroney. You mean someone 809 00:43:43.559 --> 00:43:45.039 at Mike Maroney wrote you a letter. 810 00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:47.760 Yeah, his general manager, Daniel. 811 00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:48.159 Got all up. 812 00:43:48.440 --> 00:43:50.159 Yeah, it's like his right hand man. 813 00:43:50.360 --> 00:43:53.320 They're going to give Pat a full credit of nine 814 00:43:53.360 --> 00:43:57.079 hundred dollars for this seal coat because it was never applied. 815 00:43:57.480 --> 00:44:01.320 But as for the paint defect, you know, listeners, when 816 00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:03.880 you talked to these salespeople, you need to get get 817 00:44:03.880 --> 00:44:05.000 it in writing or attack. 818 00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:07.679 Oh absolutely, I mean there's just been getting it in writing. 819 00:44:07.800 --> 00:44:10.679 We have found is weak. If you just don't buy 820 00:44:10.679 --> 00:44:14.079 the car, I don't buy the car with Weoh nah, 821 00:44:14.199 --> 00:44:14.719 don't buy it. 822 00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:18.199 And then it took fifteen months to discover this defect 823 00:44:18.320 --> 00:44:19.559 to really get going on it. 824 00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:21.760 But I think that's a big problem. 825 00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:23.840 But I think you can get it corrected if he 826 00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:25.920 files acclaimed with General Motors. 827 00:44:26.159 --> 00:44:29.440 Okay, thank you? Bo three oh three seven one three 828 00:44:29.559 --> 00:44:34.639 talks seven one three eight two five five okay one 829 00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:39.679 Clear Choice Garage Doors twenty four to seven service. 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Okay, they think it's a group investment. 851 00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:03.800 Now let me explain this. Let me start out by saying, 852 00:46:04.360 --> 00:46:11.000 Vestera Turnkey is a strategy. It was developed by Barry Miller, 853 00:46:11.039 --> 00:46:14.239 who has a years of a spotless reputation in real life. 854 00:46:14.239 --> 00:46:17.280 I'll tell you that right now. He's next to godliness 855 00:46:17.320 --> 00:46:21.000 like Frank durand the real estate man. Now, so Barry Miller, 856 00:46:21.079 --> 00:46:24.440 no fooling, just a great guy. Now, Barry Miller started 857 00:46:24.440 --> 00:46:28.480 this strategy where he goes out to markets. He wanted 858 00:46:28.519 --> 00:46:31.960 to help people become landlords without the hassle. So he 859 00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:36.360 started researching markets because the biggest hassle with rentals, there's 860 00:46:36.360 --> 00:46:40.079 two hassles. One you don't buy right, you don't sell right, 861 00:46:40.119 --> 00:46:42.440 you lose money or you don't make a lot. And 862 00:46:42.559 --> 00:46:46.760 number two you have negative cash flow, which doesn't help. 863 00:46:47.400 --> 00:46:50.360 But all the other benefits, that depreciation, all that that's 864 00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:53.519 good stuff. So now Barry said, what if I could 865 00:46:53.760 --> 00:46:57.480 help people turn a positive cash flow and not guarantee 866 00:46:57.519 --> 00:47:00.159 but almost as sure they're going to make money on 867 00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:06.400 the sale. So he looked for markets that consistently appreciate. Now, 868 00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:11.320 it could be a great market, like Denver was turns 869 00:47:11.320 --> 00:47:14.000 out not to be a good market now. And some 870 00:47:14.039 --> 00:47:18.159 of the markets he puts you in, they are great now, 871 00:47:18.599 --> 00:47:21.159 but it may not be great in five years because 872 00:47:21.360 --> 00:47:26.079 as they appreciate, they outvalue themselves to where a point 873 00:47:26.119 --> 00:47:28.599 where you can't buy right. In Colorado, you can't buy 874 00:47:28.639 --> 00:47:30.440 right and you want to buy a rental here, you're 875 00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:33.599 crazy if you try so. Now, Barry take it away. 876 00:47:33.800 --> 00:47:38.159 So you put together a program that finds these markets. 877 00:47:38.440 --> 00:47:42.639 The research finds the best markets in the country. But 878 00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:47.000 add to what you said, the strong economy has to 879 00:47:47.039 --> 00:47:50.480 be there. Colorado Springs was a hot spot until it 880 00:47:50.840 --> 00:47:55.199 priced itself out of being a positive cash flow and 881 00:47:56.599 --> 00:48:01.599 top flight appreciation for the next three years. 882 00:48:01.679 --> 00:48:03.199 So you just now, So you. 883 00:48:03.199 --> 00:48:07.400 Need rentals that will support it, and you need appreciation 884 00:48:07.639 --> 00:48:08.559 that will support it. 885 00:48:08.639 --> 00:48:12.639 And we need neighborhoods that are not fixed and flippers. 886 00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:14.159 We're in the opposite end. 887 00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:19.199 We are buying properties with nearly no deferred maintenance for 888 00:48:19.239 --> 00:48:22.480 the next two to three years. Now, that's all research, 889 00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:26.000 all based on research that we know how to do. 890 00:48:26.239 --> 00:48:30.360 Now, when you find these properties, Mark, you ask do 891 00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:32.760 I own this with a group of people. The answer 892 00:48:32.800 --> 00:48:37.719 is no. Here's what happens. Barry takes investors at his 893 00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:41.440 seminars or who hear his commercials, and he says, okay, 894 00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:44.239 you want to sign up. What's the minimum Barry. 895 00:48:44.800 --> 00:48:46.519 It's about sixty thousand. 896 00:48:46.679 --> 00:48:49.599 Okay. So let's say you have sixty to invest. That 897 00:48:49.639 --> 00:48:52.039 will get you one property right, That'll. 898 00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:53.800 Get you one good property right. 899 00:48:54.079 --> 00:48:56.840 So for sixty grand you get one good property. That 900 00:48:57.000 --> 00:49:01.920 sixty grand goes into the property makes a normal commission, 901 00:49:02.679 --> 00:49:04.960 and and and that's all. What go ahead. 902 00:49:05.119 --> 00:49:09.719 We we don't get directly paid at all. We find 903 00:49:09.800 --> 00:49:14.519 the best buyer agent fiduciary buyer agent in that marketplace 904 00:49:14.800 --> 00:49:19.679 who becomes the buyer's buyer agent. The buyer agent closes 905 00:49:20.039 --> 00:49:24.880 and sends us roughly a big referral fee. 906 00:49:25.079 --> 00:49:28.960 Okay, So the sixty the sixty grand in this instance 907 00:49:29.599 --> 00:49:32.000 I give to you. Guys, is there a deed in 908 00:49:32.079 --> 00:49:34.440 my name? What do I get back? That's what we're 909 00:49:34.440 --> 00:49:36.519 going through. So that's sixty grand. 910 00:49:36.840 --> 00:49:40.440 Mark, you are one hundred percent the owner of that property. 911 00:49:40.960 --> 00:49:44.559 And all Vestera is doing is assisting in the buying 912 00:49:44.880 --> 00:49:46.559 and the selling at the right time. 913 00:49:46.920 --> 00:49:49.760 And how do I own a property for sixty grand, 914 00:49:50.199 --> 00:49:51.239 which is mark. 915 00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:53.559 It's called you get a mortgage. That's what we're going 916 00:49:53.639 --> 00:49:56.079 to go through. Go ahead, barriers, down payment Mark. 917 00:49:56.639 --> 00:50:00.320 The lenders now a days and have for the last 918 00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:04.320 three or four years typically say you have to put 919 00:50:04.360 --> 00:50:05.840 twenty five percent down. 920 00:50:06.239 --> 00:50:07.639 That's your down payment. 921 00:50:08.159 --> 00:50:11.360 And that's why we don't have any markets within one 922 00:50:11.360 --> 00:50:15.800 thousand miles of Colorado. Look, the median price of a 923 00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:20.039 home in the United States is roughly four hundred thousand. 924 00:50:20.400 --> 00:50:24.280 What is the median price of the same house in Denver, 925 00:50:24.400 --> 00:50:29.079 Colorado roughly six hundred and fifty thousand. So we are 926 00:50:29.119 --> 00:50:32.599 in markets that are and I don't always say this, 927 00:50:32.920 --> 00:50:36.400 but are under four hundred thousand median price. 928 00:50:36.760 --> 00:50:37.880 That's part of the key. 929 00:50:38.039 --> 00:50:41.679 Okay, Now they take let's say Mark is an investor. Yes, 930 00:50:41.719 --> 00:50:44.639 sixty grand goes down. All of that money Mark goes 931 00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:48.159 into the property. Okay, you buy the property. Now, obviously 932 00:50:48.239 --> 00:50:52.679 normal commissions are paid, and those commissions a barry gets 933 00:50:52.679 --> 00:50:55.320 a referral fee. But this is what's really important. For 934 00:50:55.440 --> 00:50:59.960 that referral fee buying and selling, that's all they charge you. Mark. 935 00:51:00.199 --> 00:51:03.599 The normal commission is if you did it on your own, 936 00:51:03.679 --> 00:51:06.880 you'd pay that. Oh yeah, but you get you get 937 00:51:06.960 --> 00:51:10.360 to pay that normal commission, not a penny more, and 938 00:51:10.400 --> 00:51:14.119 you don't pay anything else for Barry's expertise. That's it 939 00:51:14.559 --> 00:51:17.400 now for that money. Now, they put you in touch 940 00:51:17.679 --> 00:51:20.400 with the lenders. They put you in touch with and 941 00:51:20.440 --> 00:51:22.639 they walk you through it. They put you in touch 942 00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:26.599 with the management companies they've been using for years. Then 943 00:51:26.719 --> 00:51:30.079 they go out and find they find your your renter, 944 00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:33.559 They collect rent, they manage it. If you don't want 945 00:51:33.599 --> 00:51:36.400 to take a phone call, it's an extra how much. 946 00:51:36.360 --> 00:51:40.719 A year three hundred and sixty dollars per property per year, 947 00:51:40.800 --> 00:51:41.800 twelve months. 948 00:51:41.480 --> 00:51:45.079 And then vestera. Barry and his team makes all the 949 00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:48.519 decisions you know that aren't major and going to broke you. 950 00:51:48.840 --> 00:51:52.280 They take care of the minor crap every day, day 951 00:51:52.320 --> 00:51:56.760 to day things. Okay, so now your hands off. When 952 00:51:56.880 --> 00:52:00.119 does a buyer like Mark, if he put a sixty 953 00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:03.159 grant in in his mind he owns a house in 954 00:52:03.239 --> 00:52:06.719 ex North Carolina or South Carolina, when does he ever 955 00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:08.480 get involved before they sell? 956 00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:12.880 When anytime he wants to, we're sending him regular reports 957 00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:18.679 on the economy, the neighborhood, and that property like annual appreciation. 958 00:52:18.719 --> 00:52:22.480 Where does his positive cash flow go to him? Now, 959 00:52:22.559 --> 00:52:26.039 if he has someone move out, which occasionally happens, and 960 00:52:26.119 --> 00:52:28.960 the management company charges half of the first month or 961 00:52:29.000 --> 00:52:30.280 all of the first month. 962 00:52:30.280 --> 00:52:31.440 Good question, Tom. 963 00:52:31.519 --> 00:52:35.599 We have gotten them to negotiate either zero or a 964 00:52:35.639 --> 00:52:37.400 flat five hundred dollars fee. 965 00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:40.960 Okay, So we're there. Ever a month? Is there ever 966 00:52:41.000 --> 00:52:43.360 a month? An owner like Mark, if he put his 967 00:52:43.440 --> 00:52:46.320 sixty grand in where he would have to write a check. 968 00:52:47.719 --> 00:52:53.960 I would say, in a four year period, you'd have 969 00:52:54.000 --> 00:52:57.039 to have twenty marks. And maybe in a four year 970 00:52:57.119 --> 00:53:01.400 period one or two of those people would have one 971 00:53:01.480 --> 00:53:03.320 or two negative months. 972 00:53:03.440 --> 00:53:07.000 Okay, but overall it's positive. 973 00:53:08.079 --> 00:53:12.440 Yes, the interest rates have us cringing a little bit, right, 974 00:53:12.599 --> 00:53:15.239 and some of our buyers have said, we'd rather not 975 00:53:15.440 --> 00:53:18.760 wait two months for positive cash flow. So we have 976 00:53:18.840 --> 00:53:22.519 an absolute limit on what the negative can be at 977 00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:24.639 the request of our customer. 978 00:53:24.719 --> 00:53:27.079 Now, what if you want to finance the whole house? 979 00:53:27.239 --> 00:53:29.280 Is that not wise? 980 00:53:29.960 --> 00:53:32.440 We have people who do that. That's where their comfort 981 00:53:32.519 --> 00:53:36.760 level is. Okay, economically, financially, they see it in writing, 982 00:53:36.840 --> 00:53:39.480 they hear me say it. That is not the highest 983 00:53:39.480 --> 00:53:41.159 and best use of your money. 984 00:53:41.360 --> 00:53:44.559 Okay. Got it. Now, when Mark it puts his sixty 985 00:53:44.599 --> 00:53:47.360 in and he owns the property, when does he sell it. 986 00:53:47.800 --> 00:53:50.599 At his timeline for his oriors? 987 00:53:50.639 --> 00:53:54.400 That we discuss, but you may recommend, we think you 988 00:53:54.440 --> 00:53:55.000 should sell. 989 00:53:55.239 --> 00:53:57.840 We recommend, and I'll say, typically, what. 990 00:53:58.079 --> 00:54:00.280 Am I tied to you until I do sell? 991 00:54:01.000 --> 00:54:04.280 No? Nothing, exclusive, no exclusive target. 992 00:54:04.320 --> 00:54:06.519 If you want to sell on your own, you can 993 00:54:07.119 --> 00:54:10.519 seal by for sale by owner. Go ahead and bet. 994 00:54:10.519 --> 00:54:13.199 Not tied to us. That that's the part of the 995 00:54:13.280 --> 00:54:17.159 magic here too. But but you will most of our 996 00:54:18.039 --> 00:54:23.719 investors wealth builders have said, maximize our return. Now, keep 997 00:54:23.719 --> 00:54:26.960 in mind the return is forty five fifty fifty five 998 00:54:27.320 --> 00:54:31.360 percent per year. Yes, it's on paper, except unless you 999 00:54:31.400 --> 00:54:34.320 want to borrow the money from your own property. So 1000 00:54:34.360 --> 00:54:38.039 it's very liquid. We don't tolerate that non liquid stuff. 1001 00:54:38.039 --> 00:54:41.320 It's liquid. But yeah, you don't have all that money 1002 00:54:41.360 --> 00:54:44.599 at your disposal to yourself. But anyhow, most of the 1003 00:54:44.679 --> 00:54:48.880 people want maximum return because they're the smartest thing. 1004 00:54:48.960 --> 00:54:51.960 Okay, so Mark says, handle it. When would you tell 1005 00:54:51.960 --> 00:54:52.400 them to sell? 1006 00:54:52.519 --> 00:54:55.559 Typically two to two and a half years. Here's what 1007 00:54:55.639 --> 00:54:59.960 people are doing selling that one property with us involved. 1008 00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:03.639 As we negotiate lower fees no lower commissions in the 1009 00:55:03.639 --> 00:55:10.559 field and buying two properties now doubling their return with 1010 00:55:11.079 --> 00:55:15.000 positive cash flow on each property and typically no out 1011 00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:18.840 of pocket cash for those purchases. Okay, ten thirty one 1012 00:55:19.039 --> 00:55:21.000 tax deferred exchange. 1013 00:55:21.159 --> 00:55:26.239 Now, I'm going to say something up front here, it 1014 00:55:26.320 --> 00:55:30.000 is always best if you have sixty or more to 1015 00:55:30.079 --> 00:55:33.599 go direct to Vestera for the best return and the 1016 00:55:33.639 --> 00:55:38.760 best simplicity. However, there are people that have been asking 1017 00:55:38.880 --> 00:55:44.039 me if if I'm getting involved. Now, I'm getting involved 1018 00:55:44.039 --> 00:55:48.480 in two ways, personally and through Wave eight Wealth Management. Personally, 1019 00:55:48.480 --> 00:55:51.320 I'm going to get involved with Barry just own some properties. 1020 00:55:51.800 --> 00:55:54.960 That's the best, most efficient way. But if let's say 1021 00:55:55.000 --> 00:55:58.239 you don't want to invest sixty grand, let's say you 1022 00:55:58.280 --> 00:56:01.679 want to invest I think we're going to make a minimum. 1023 00:56:01.760 --> 00:56:03.880 But let's say it's ten grand. Now we're going to 1024 00:56:03.960 --> 00:56:08.880 put together a group an LLC and I or Wave 1025 00:56:08.920 --> 00:56:12.159 eight will go out and get the mortgage and Wave 1026 00:56:12.159 --> 00:56:15.239 eight will be the owner. But you'll well not Wave eight. 1027 00:56:15.239 --> 00:56:18.199 But wait, we're going to call it a Wave Vister 1028 00:56:18.239 --> 00:56:24.119 Era one, Wave ASTERRA two. We're putting together LLCs. Each 1029 00:56:24.400 --> 00:56:29.800 LLC will probably buy three to five properties. Okay, and 1030 00:56:29.840 --> 00:56:33.039 then we'll be Barry's owner. We'll deal with Barry. You 1031 00:56:33.079 --> 00:56:34.679 will be part of that. So if you put in 1032 00:56:34.719 --> 00:56:37.320 ten grand, you'll get your pro rata share of gain. 1033 00:56:38.320 --> 00:56:40.719 If it's a fifty percent gain, you'll get another five 1034 00:56:40.760 --> 00:56:43.480 grand for putting ten in. And you will have to 1035 00:56:43.719 --> 00:56:47.119 be in for the life of the LLC. So if 1036 00:56:47.159 --> 00:56:49.039 Barry says it's going to be three years on this 1037 00:56:49.039 --> 00:56:50.760 one or two and a half years, we're going to 1038 00:56:50.840 --> 00:56:52.400 do that. Now, if you want to buy out early, 1039 00:56:52.440 --> 00:56:54.519 we'll liquidate you. You're not going to lose money, but 1040 00:56:54.920 --> 00:56:58.119 you can't. It's not fair to stay in for a 1041 00:56:58.239 --> 00:57:00.480 year and then all the others and for two and 1042 00:57:00.480 --> 00:57:02.159 a half and you get the same return. You're just 1043 00:57:02.199 --> 00:57:04.039 not going to do it. But we're going to put 1044 00:57:04.079 --> 00:57:08.800 together LLC's through our investment company. For those who do 1045 00:57:08.920 --> 00:57:12.000 not want to own the whole thing on their own, 1046 00:57:12.320 --> 00:57:14.880 or they want to buy a smaller piece of let's 1047 00:57:14.920 --> 00:57:18.239 say three to five properties. I'm telling you upfront it's 1048 00:57:18.320 --> 00:57:21.880 better to go to Barry directly and own a property. 1049 00:57:21.920 --> 00:57:25.039 It's way less complicated, but we will manage and handle 1050 00:57:25.079 --> 00:57:27.719 it all. If you want to just be in a group, 1051 00:57:28.159 --> 00:57:31.559 I'm going to be in every single group I put together. 1052 00:57:31.599 --> 00:57:34.920 I'm telling you that right now, me personally, through my 1053 00:57:35.079 --> 00:57:39.000 company Wave eight Wealth Management, we will own part of 1054 00:57:39.039 --> 00:57:42.199 it with you. So it's not I mean me personally, 1055 00:57:42.239 --> 00:57:44.840 not the company. Me personally will own part of that 1056 00:57:45.119 --> 00:57:48.480 with you. So what happens if you go through us 1057 00:57:48.639 --> 00:57:51.119 and you only put in ten or twenty or twenty 1058 00:57:51.159 --> 00:57:54.400 five or thirty, Well, that's what you do. It's less 1059 00:57:54.400 --> 00:57:57.599 than the initial investment, therefore less the return. It'll still 1060 00:57:57.639 --> 00:58:00.920 be the same percentage return, except we will take a 1061 00:58:01.000 --> 00:58:03.719 management fee of one percent. If that's the only difference. 1062 00:58:03.960 --> 00:58:04.719 So so you. 1063 00:58:04.800 --> 00:58:08.039 Plus plus, how would that person decide to sell it? 1064 00:58:08.079 --> 00:58:10.400 I mean, wouldn't that be a vote with everybody else's 1065 00:58:10.960 --> 00:58:11.920 If you did it. 1066 00:58:12.000 --> 00:58:15.960 In a smaller chunk through one of my c's, you 1067 00:58:16.000 --> 00:58:19.679 would have to you'd have to sell when we all 1068 00:58:20.039 --> 00:58:22.800 when we liquidate. Okay, So in other words, we will 1069 00:58:22.840 --> 00:58:26.159 go totally by what Barry says. If Barry says, Tom, 1070 00:58:26.159 --> 00:58:28.559 now's a good time to sell, and it's been two years, 1071 00:58:28.800 --> 00:58:30.719 we will put a limit on it. We'll put a 1072 00:58:30.719 --> 00:58:33.199 three year limit on it, but it can go anywhere 1073 00:58:33.239 --> 00:58:35.760 from a year to three years. Let's say and so 1074 00:58:36.119 --> 00:58:38.800 if someone wants out early, Mark, they're not going to 1075 00:58:38.800 --> 00:58:40.679 be able to sell because it's not their house. They 1076 00:58:40.719 --> 00:58:43.599 only own part of an LLC, and we will cash 1077 00:58:43.679 --> 00:58:46.880 them out of the LLC, but we will not you know, 1078 00:58:46.920 --> 00:58:49.039 they're not going to get a fifty percent return if 1079 00:58:49.039 --> 00:58:50.760 they're in for a year and the other people are 1080 00:58:50.760 --> 00:58:53.880 in for two years. Okay, So what we're doing is, 1081 00:58:54.480 --> 00:58:57.000 it's let me put it simple, We're allowing people with 1082 00:58:57.119 --> 00:59:00.320 smaller chunks of cash to be part of Vestera. That's 1083 00:59:00.320 --> 00:59:03.119 what we're doing. But I'm telling you upfront it would 1084 00:59:03.159 --> 00:59:05.760 be better to do it on your own direct if 1085 00:59:05.800 --> 00:59:08.760 you have the full amount. There are many people that 1086 00:59:08.880 --> 00:59:11.360 don't have the full amount. But there's one other thing. 1087 00:59:11.800 --> 00:59:14.400 There are people that want to put retirement money in it. 1088 00:59:14.960 --> 00:59:17.239 And in order to do that, you can't do it 1089 00:59:17.280 --> 00:59:20.239 on your own. You can't do it direct. You have 1090 00:59:20.360 --> 00:59:23.960 to go through a third party. And we have the 1091 00:59:24.199 --> 00:59:29.920 arrangement with a trust company to self direct your IRA, 1092 00:59:30.280 --> 00:59:34.840 so you can do it legally and ethically with your 1093 00:59:34.960 --> 00:59:38.880 qualified money. Okay, so you can do that, but you 1094 00:59:39.000 --> 00:59:42.000 must have an intermediary, so you can't do it directly. 1095 00:59:42.239 --> 00:59:44.480 And Mark, you and I have done things like that 1096 00:59:44.519 --> 00:59:48.119 with our retirement funds through an intermediary. Right, we've done 1097 00:59:48.119 --> 00:59:51.280 it together. We have yeah, and it's a legit way 1098 00:59:51.320 --> 00:59:53.760 of doing it. But if you have retirement money, you 1099 00:59:53.800 --> 00:59:55.960 can't go to Bury directly and use it. You can. 1100 00:59:56.119 --> 00:59:59.039 He's not allowed to do that. We are, okay. That's 1101 00:59:59.119 --> 01:00:01.559 it in a nutshell. If you have any other questions, 1102 01:00:01.639 --> 01:00:04.320 give us a call or text us and five seven 1103 01:00:04.400 --> 01:00:07.000 seven three nine is the short code, or you can 1104 01:00:07.039 --> 01:00:10.840 text my Google number and my Google number is seven 1105 01:00:10.920 --> 01:00:16.920 four seven nine nine eighty. Again. It's really a good program. 1106 01:00:16.960 --> 01:00:19.599 That's why I'm getting involved in it through my other company. 1107 01:00:19.840 --> 01:00:22.679 And if you have any other problems, questioner complaints, of course, 1108 01:00:22.719 --> 01:00:24.280 give us a call. We have a lot to talk 1109 01:00:24.280 --> 01:00:33.679 about coming up. Go with a sure thing Denver's Best 1110 01:00:33.760 --> 01:00:36.639 roofer Excel roofing dot com. You don't pay a cent 1111 01:00:36.840 --> 01:00:43.039 until you're content. Time for an insurance checkup, free, no 1112 01:00:43.119 --> 01:00:47.480 obligation comparison call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage 1113 01:00:47.519 --> 01:00:50.199 at dozens of insurance companies find out now three oh 1114 01:00:50.239 --> 01:00:52.719 three seven seven to one help. You'll think you're his 1115 01:00:52.840 --> 01:00:55.480 only customer when you choose Frank durand the real estate 1116 01:00:55.519 --> 01:00:58.760 man dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance 1117 01:00:59.000 --> 01:01:01.280 three oh three nine two year old sixteen twenty two 1118 01:01:05.639 --> 01:01:10.559 NI Tom Martino your troubleshooter three all three seven one 1119 01:01:10.639 --> 01:01:14.840 three talk seven one three eight two five five. So 1120 01:01:15.440 --> 01:01:18.800 we're talking with Barry Miller about Vestera Turnkey. But of 1121 01:01:18.880 --> 01:01:22.639 course we'll take any and all of your calls, problems, questions, complaints. 1122 01:01:22.639 --> 01:01:25.639 We have a lot to talk about today, and of 1123 01:01:25.679 --> 01:01:29.599 course the election is tomorrow, so the issues are of 1124 01:01:29.719 --> 01:01:34.119 utmost important. But what's amazing is it used to be 1125 01:01:34.880 --> 01:01:38.199 most people voted on election day. Is that still the 1126 01:01:38.199 --> 01:01:41.280 way it is? Or are most people actually voting before 1127 01:01:42.000 --> 01:01:42.840 election day? 1128 01:01:43.199 --> 01:01:43.519 I don't. 1129 01:01:43.519 --> 01:01:45.639 I don't really know the numbers on it yet, do 1130 01:01:45.719 --> 01:01:46.440 you know, Barry. 1131 01:01:46.440 --> 01:01:48.960 I do two Roughly two thirds of the people are 1132 01:01:49.000 --> 01:01:51.599 putting in ahead of time, and so we. 1133 01:01:51.599 --> 01:01:57.360 Actually have more people voting than not Yeah, ahead election Yep, 1134 01:01:58.480 --> 01:01:59.559 this is the biggest year. 1135 01:02:00.400 --> 01:02:02.920 I saw some big reports. I'm a night person, so 1136 01:02:02.960 --> 01:02:05.400 I saw I watched the two AM and three Am 1137 01:02:05.480 --> 01:02:09.360 New and they're saying thirty two to thirty five percent 1138 01:02:09.440 --> 01:02:12.679 will be there. As a veteran, if I may just 1139 01:02:12.760 --> 01:02:16.079 add this little piece, I think election day should be 1140 01:02:16.159 --> 01:02:19.000 a national holiday, and that should be Veterans Day, because 1141 01:02:19.000 --> 01:02:21.719 that's what the heck we protected when we went to 1142 01:02:21.840 --> 01:02:25.679 war to protect rights in our country. So I think 1143 01:02:25.800 --> 01:02:28.599 it should be even a fewer people are that everybody 1144 01:02:28.599 --> 01:02:30.159 else have a holiday. 1145 01:02:30.639 --> 01:02:33.039 You know what I mean? That that is a that's 1146 01:02:33.039 --> 01:02:35.599 a cool idea that would get people maybe to vote. 1147 01:02:35.719 --> 01:02:37.800 When I run for office, it's going to be one 1148 01:02:37.800 --> 01:02:39.960 of my platform pieces. 1149 01:02:40.599 --> 01:02:41.719 Which office would that be? 1150 01:02:42.239 --> 01:02:42.960 I won't say? 1151 01:02:43.239 --> 01:02:46.960 Okay anyway, three all three, seven to one to three 1152 01:02:47.000 --> 01:02:48.599 talkers are number if you have a question, three O 1153 01:02:48.679 --> 01:02:50.760 three seven one three two five five. So I'm going 1154 01:02:50.840 --> 01:02:54.440 to go to the text. I do have one. Do 1155 01:02:54.599 --> 01:02:59.400 any people use qualified funds? We went through that. If 1156 01:02:59.400 --> 01:03:03.559 you have a quality fight intermediary, you can use qualified funds. 1157 01:03:03.719 --> 01:03:06.519 They borrow they're borrowing from their four oh one k's 1158 01:03:06.639 --> 01:03:08.079 and some of their iras. 1159 01:03:08.239 --> 01:03:09.079 Yeah, that's different. 1160 01:03:09.159 --> 01:03:12.000 That's different. They have to borrow it. But but they 1161 01:03:12.039 --> 01:03:12.679 handle that. 1162 01:03:12.800 --> 01:03:15.480 But if they borrow it, it's not tax deferred earnings. 1163 01:03:15.519 --> 01:03:17.280 It's not the same. They have some money. 1164 01:03:17.280 --> 01:03:20.559 If they use the qualified money, all of those earnings. Barry, 1165 01:03:20.639 --> 01:03:23.159 do you realize what thirty to fifty or fifty to 1166 01:03:23.159 --> 01:03:27.000 eighty percent tax deferred means, oh my god, what they 1167 01:03:27.000 --> 01:03:30.360 don't qualified. Yeah, but again, as I said, we act 1168 01:03:30.360 --> 01:03:35.079 as qualified intomediaries with along with a trust company at 1169 01:03:35.079 --> 01:03:39.480 Wave eight Wealth Management. And by the way, the website 1170 01:03:39.719 --> 01:03:42.960 that the website for that is you can just do 1171 01:03:43.039 --> 01:03:46.760 Waveeightcapital dot Comwaveeightcapital dot com will get you there. Wave 1172 01:03:46.800 --> 01:03:50.440 eight Capital. And then are there any hot cities in 1173 01:03:50.519 --> 01:03:54.199 the Mountain West? And there's a reason you don't give 1174 01:03:54.199 --> 01:03:56.360 out the cities. Well, you do to the people buying, 1175 01:03:56.719 --> 01:03:57.760 but you just don't. 1176 01:03:58.480 --> 01:04:00.800 Sign of our customers. 1177 01:04:00.920 --> 01:04:01.960 It's proprietary. 1178 01:04:02.239 --> 01:04:07.679 Why it's proprietary because now how direct can I be? 1179 01:04:07.679 --> 01:04:11.960 Because so many real estate people don't know how to add, subtract, divide, 1180 01:04:11.960 --> 01:04:12.719 and multiply. 1181 01:04:13.239 --> 01:04:14.760 Their ethics are questionable. 1182 01:04:14.760 --> 01:04:20.760 It's a dui industry, deceptive most of the time, unethical frequently, 1183 01:04:21.159 --> 01:04:23.440 and illegal once in a while. So I don't want 1184 01:04:23.519 --> 01:04:26.960 real estate people who are not competent trying to give 1185 01:04:27.119 --> 01:04:29.480 make people wealthy when they don't even know how to 1186 01:04:29.559 --> 01:04:30.599 do it themselves. 1187 01:04:31.039 --> 01:04:33.480 So I'm protective of the consumers. 1188 01:04:33.599 --> 01:04:36.039 Yeah, because if you say go to this city, and 1189 01:04:36.079 --> 01:04:38.719 now they try to go direct with their own person. 1190 01:04:38.480 --> 01:04:41.320 They're going to get agents who don't negotiate the best 1191 01:04:41.360 --> 01:04:44.800 price when they buy. They get agents who don't negotiate 1192 01:04:44.840 --> 01:04:47.599 the best price when they sell. When you sell, you 1193 01:04:47.679 --> 01:04:50.199 want the agent who's going to get your maximum dollars. 1194 01:04:50.239 --> 01:04:52.159 When you buy, you want minimum dollars. 1195 01:04:52.159 --> 01:04:54.840 And you also negotiate the best management fees. 1196 01:04:54.760 --> 01:04:58.719 Management fees and management. And then again we're overseeing the 1197 01:04:58.800 --> 01:05:03.360 management and then the management company man. They don't make 1198 01:05:03.519 --> 01:05:06.679 errors because if they do, it's going to affect a 1199 01:05:06.719 --> 01:05:07.719 lot of their business. 1200 01:05:07.800 --> 01:05:11.639 Put it that way, Okay, So then the question are 1201 01:05:11.639 --> 01:05:13.199 you in the Rocky Mountain West at all? 1202 01:05:13.360 --> 01:05:13.840 We are not. 1203 01:05:14.039 --> 01:05:16.760 We're looking all the time, we're researching, we have a 1204 01:05:16.800 --> 01:05:20.960 research staff. We researched all the time and nothing. I mean, 1205 01:05:21.000 --> 01:05:23.719 Boise was a hot market, but it went so fast, 1206 01:05:23.880 --> 01:05:26.480 up high, so fast, it went too high, and it 1207 01:05:26.519 --> 01:05:29.639 was all negative cash flow and it did not have 1208 01:05:29.719 --> 01:05:33.840 the supporting supporting economy. Now you have to have the 1209 01:05:33.960 --> 01:05:36.039 supporting economy called jobs. 1210 01:05:36.199 --> 01:05:40.000 Now, my brother on his own went on a motorcycle 1211 01:05:40.039 --> 01:05:43.679 treck looking for markets. I know it's silly, but the 1212 01:05:43.760 --> 01:05:47.079 problem is is that's what he did. And so what 1213 01:05:47.119 --> 01:05:54.119 I'd like to know is he thought Iowa was good. 1214 01:05:54.440 --> 01:05:56.000 I mean, I'm not saying it is or not, but 1215 01:05:56.559 --> 01:05:57.119 do you think. 1216 01:05:57.079 --> 01:06:00.880 I Boin made our top twenty in the last the 1217 01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:04.760 last quarter was our annual evaluation for twenty twenty five. 1218 01:06:04.800 --> 01:06:05.920 It's huge research. 1219 01:06:06.280 --> 01:06:10.360 We then do all that research quarterly where we are 1220 01:06:10.559 --> 01:06:15.360 are researching our top roughly fifty markets. But yeah, des 1221 01:06:15.360 --> 01:06:18.119 Moines came close, I mean making it in the top twenty. 1222 01:06:18.159 --> 01:06:22.199 They're good markets. But it's more or less a simple question. 1223 01:06:22.320 --> 01:06:26.000 Do you want twenty five percent return thirty five or 1224 01:06:26.039 --> 01:06:29.599 forty five to fifty five? Everybody says Barry will take 1225 01:06:29.679 --> 01:06:30.519 fifty thank you. 1226 01:06:31.039 --> 01:06:32.159 So Des Moines. 1227 01:06:31.920 --> 01:06:36.159 Doesn't make it on our on our list, not being 1228 01:06:36.280 --> 01:06:38.320 arrogant about it, but just being factual. 1229 01:06:39.280 --> 01:06:42.599 So you're looking at markets where you definitely get the 1230 01:06:42.760 --> 01:06:47.400 highest return, not just in rent, but in capital gains. 1231 01:06:47.320 --> 01:06:52.719 The capital gains and rent combined. Our that's what our 1232 01:06:52.920 --> 01:06:59.000 typical lowest customer right now is that approximately forty five 1233 01:06:59.039 --> 01:07:02.800 percent annual returns right now, and that's lower than it 1234 01:07:02.920 --> 01:07:05.679 was two and three years ago. We had people doubling 1235 01:07:05.719 --> 01:07:09.320 their money in twelve months. We are selling properties after 1236 01:07:09.440 --> 01:07:13.719 twelve and fifteen months two three and four years ago. Well, 1237 01:07:13.760 --> 01:07:15.519 we have to go with the market. We have to 1238 01:07:15.519 --> 01:07:18.679 do what's best for each customer. Now it's two to 1239 01:07:18.760 --> 01:07:21.480 two and a half years, you've doubled the money. It's 1240 01:07:21.559 --> 01:07:22.719 time to sell properties. 1241 01:07:22.800 --> 01:07:25.239 I got to take this break on Tom Martine more 1242 01:07:25.280 --> 01:07:32.320 coming up. Go with a sure thing Denver's best roofer 1243 01:07:32.440 --> 01:07:35.320 Excel Roofing dot com. You don't pay a cent until 1244 01:07:35.360 --> 01:07:41.840 you're content. Time for an insurance checkup free, no obligation 1245 01:07:41.960 --> 01:07:45.840 comparison call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at 1246 01:07:45.880 --> 01:07:48.599 dozens of insurance companies find out now three all three 1247 01:07:48.760 --> 01:07:50.880 seven to seven to one. Help. You'll think you're his 1248 01:07:51.039 --> 01:07:53.679 only customer when you choose Frank durand the real estate 1249 01:07:53.719 --> 01:07:56.960 Man dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance 1250 01:07:57.199 --> 01:08:03.079 three all three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi 1251 01:08:03.239 --> 01:08:05.920 Tom Martino here at three zero three seven to one 1252 01:08:06.039 --> 01:08:09.760 three talk seven one three eight two five five. I 1253 01:08:09.840 --> 01:08:12.320 invite your calls on any and all problems, question complaints. 1254 01:08:12.360 --> 01:08:14.760 We do have some texts here, some texts for Barry, 1255 01:08:14.840 --> 01:08:17.279 some texts for not Let me go to some of 1256 01:08:17.359 --> 01:08:22.319 them and here. If the border was a real issue, 1257 01:08:22.800 --> 01:08:25.760 then Texas would have called out the National Guard. Why 1258 01:08:25.800 --> 01:08:29.119 have they not called out the National Guard to stop 1259 01:08:29.159 --> 01:08:35.880 illegal immigrants. Instead, Texas has done nothing and most of 1260 01:08:35.880 --> 01:08:44.279 the time they benefit from illegal labor. So this person's 1261 01:08:44.359 --> 01:08:47.520 theory is that they want the illegal immigrants in Texas. 1262 01:08:47.840 --> 01:08:49.720 We're gonna talk about a seminar by the way, if 1263 01:08:49.760 --> 01:08:51.760 you want to know more a webinar if you want 1264 01:08:51.800 --> 01:08:53.960 to know more about this, stir a turnkey coming up, 1265 01:08:54.600 --> 01:08:57.680 so I want you to learn about that. It's December seventh. 1266 01:08:58.159 --> 01:09:00.319 Now if you go to my Biggest Return dot you 1267 01:09:00.319 --> 01:09:02.720 can find out more about that. Plus we'll have more 1268 01:09:02.760 --> 01:09:05.640 about it coming up. All kinds of problems, questions, complaints, 1269 01:09:05.680 --> 01:09:07.920 Give us a call three oh three seven to one 1270 01:09:07.960 --> 01:09:12.239 three talk. Go with a sure thing Denver's best roofer 1271 01:09:12.359 --> 01:09:15.279 Excel Roofing dot com. You don't pay a cent until 1272 01:09:15.279 --> 01:09:21.760 you're content. Time for an insurance check up free, no obligation. 1273 01:09:21.800 --> 01:09:25.600 In comparison, call Compass Insurance Paying too much your coverage 1274 01:09:25.640 --> 01:09:28.319 at dozens of insurance companies find out now three oh 1275 01:09:28.359 --> 01:09:30.840 three seven seven to one help. You'll think you're his 1276 01:09:30.960 --> 01:09:33.600 only customer when you choose Frank durand the real estate 1277 01:09:33.640 --> 01:09:36.880 Man dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance 1278 01:09:37.119 --> 01:09:42.840 three oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. 1279 01:09:47.399 --> 01:09:50.479 You needed that, so you don't have. 1280 01:09:52.640 --> 01:09:54.680 Come run anxious as fast as. 1281 01:09:54.560 --> 01:09:57.640 We can, so that's gonna help. 1282 01:09:57.920 --> 01:09:58.239 Come. 1283 01:10:00.520 --> 01:10:06.199 Is the Troubleshooter Show. No, Tom Martine, Hi, Tom Martino here, 1284 01:10:06.279 --> 01:10:09.479 Welcome to the show. Three oh three seven one three 1285 01:10:09.560 --> 01:10:12.199 talk three oh three seven one three eight two five five. 1286 01:10:12.520 --> 01:10:14.800 If you have a problem, question, complain, give us a call. 1287 01:10:14.840 --> 01:10:17.199 We'd love to help you anyway we can. Today I 1288 01:10:17.239 --> 01:10:19.680 have a special guest visterra turnkey dot com, which is 1289 01:10:19.720 --> 01:10:22.199 Barry Miller and uh you can sign up for his 1290 01:10:22.239 --> 01:10:24.479 webinar coming up December seventh, or give us a call 1291 01:10:24.520 --> 01:10:26.760 here today to find out any and all things you 1292 01:10:26.800 --> 01:10:30.199 want to know about investing in real estate or investing 1293 01:10:30.239 --> 01:10:33.920 in general. You can call me a registered investment advisor 1294 01:10:34.039 --> 01:10:38.680 and you can help us help you with anything money related. 1295 01:10:38.960 --> 01:10:43.520 Or you can call with any problem, any question, or 1296 01:10:43.560 --> 01:10:50.680 any question on the coming propositions and election ballot issues. 1297 01:10:50.720 --> 01:10:52.600 I'm not going to talk about people, but I will 1298 01:10:52.600 --> 01:10:56.560 talk about the issues and the ballot and uh, we 1299 01:10:56.680 --> 01:11:01.159 have Christine who wants to talk about Castle rockelection. Go ahead, Christine. 1300 01:11:01.359 --> 01:11:05.119 By the way, again, anything people call in about is 1301 01:11:05.159 --> 01:11:07.840 fine with me, and I'm even starting a new segment 1302 01:11:07.880 --> 01:11:11.279 I want to introduce to people, and it's before you 1303 01:11:11.479 --> 01:11:14.920 find out, before you make an opinion. It is called opinions, 1304 01:11:15.319 --> 01:11:18.399 but it has nothing to do with politics. It's called 1305 01:11:18.399 --> 01:11:21.960 opinions and it's a little different than direct help. And 1306 01:11:22.359 --> 01:11:25.439 I'm sure you're going to love this. This is something 1307 01:11:25.479 --> 01:11:28.960 I talked to Mark about probably a year ago, but 1308 01:11:29.039 --> 01:11:33.479 we never got started with it. Christine, go ahead, Tom, 1309 01:11:33.520 --> 01:11:34.600 thank you, good afternoon. 1310 01:11:34.640 --> 01:11:35.439 Thanks for having me. 1311 01:11:35.880 --> 01:11:36.479 What's going on? 1312 01:11:36.560 --> 01:11:37.680 Everything you do? 1313 01:11:37.880 --> 01:11:38.279 Thank you? 1314 01:11:38.800 --> 01:11:46.119 We have we have. We have an election ballot two 1315 01:11:46.159 --> 01:11:50.439 A for Castle Rock and I am pretty much for 1316 01:11:50.520 --> 01:11:54.359 voting and advocating for people to vote no to giving 1317 01:11:54.439 --> 01:11:57.399 the Castle Rock cops twenty cents on one hundred dollars 1318 01:11:57.439 --> 01:12:01.199 so they can hire more police officers. They have ninety 1319 01:12:01.239 --> 01:12:05.279 six police officers sworn officers, nineteen volunteers and thirty two 1320 01:12:05.319 --> 01:12:10.039 staffs and they waste resources with five police cars showing up. 1321 01:12:10.079 --> 01:12:11.560 They've got nothing better to do. 1322 01:12:11.680 --> 01:12:14.039 Why would you want why would you want to defund 1323 01:12:14.079 --> 01:12:14.680 the police? 1324 01:12:15.199 --> 01:12:17.479 No, she's saying not, she's saying they have enough. 1325 01:12:17.520 --> 01:12:20.920 As what I hear her saying, God, Castle Rocks growing 1326 01:12:21.039 --> 01:12:21.960 like crazy. 1327 01:12:23.319 --> 01:12:26.279 Well, they don't train them properly and they don't pay them. 1328 01:12:26.720 --> 01:12:32.039 She's just anti cap are listen, No, not at all. 1329 01:12:32.119 --> 01:12:37.039 Let me finish, Okay, Christine, Christine, just so you know, Christine, Christine, 1330 01:12:37.199 --> 01:12:39.640 just so you know, I'll let you finish. And I 1331 01:12:39.640 --> 01:12:41.520 have no problem with what you're saying. I'll let you 1332 01:12:41.560 --> 01:12:44.199 say it. Mark was just asking because he lives down 1333 01:12:44.239 --> 01:12:47.319 that way. He's saying, it's very, very busy, and why 1334 01:12:47.399 --> 01:12:49.000 wouldn't you want more money for them? 1335 01:12:49.039 --> 01:12:54.520 Go ahead, Okay, absolutely, I am. I am totally for 1336 01:12:54.640 --> 01:12:58.560 the police officers, not this police department or the chief 1337 01:12:58.600 --> 01:13:01.479 of police, the man I spoke to, and the chief 1338 01:13:01.520 --> 01:13:04.800 of police. Regarding the fact that they cited me as 1339 01:13:05.000 --> 01:13:07.720 h away president for volunteering with the board to clean 1340 01:13:07.800 --> 01:13:11.520 up abandoned property, they cited me for theft. 1341 01:13:13.880 --> 01:13:17.920 It's obvious it's her, So I mean, god seconds to 1342 01:13:18.039 --> 01:13:18.439 point out. 1343 01:13:19.640 --> 01:13:23.600 Okay, let me finish. They're wasting police, they're wasting task 1344 01:13:23.640 --> 01:13:27.359 payers resources with five police cars showing up, and I 1345 01:13:27.399 --> 01:13:30.960 am all about the population growing in more police officers. 1346 01:13:30.960 --> 01:13:34.079 They're not training, they're police officers that this is a 1347 01:13:34.079 --> 01:13:37.439 civil matter, not a criminal matter, and there is no property. 1348 01:13:37.720 --> 01:13:40.640 Christine we have to admit you have a personal beef 1349 01:13:40.680 --> 01:13:43.319 with the police right well. 1350 01:13:43.159 --> 01:13:46.239 Actually we're filing a lawsuit against them because it gave 1351 01:13:46.279 --> 01:13:47.199 them a chance to draw. 1352 01:13:47.359 --> 01:13:49.560 You can't even admit that. I mean, that's all she's 1353 01:13:49.600 --> 01:13:53.520 been we as. I understand where you stand. 1354 01:13:53.760 --> 01:13:56.560 I understand, but I want to ask about your situation 1355 01:13:56.680 --> 01:13:59.079 because i'd like to give an opinion on it, if 1356 01:13:59.079 --> 01:14:02.680 you don't mind. What happened? So what happened? 1357 01:14:02.800 --> 01:14:07.039 I we have some great police officers that we've dealt 1358 01:14:07.039 --> 01:14:07.800 with with our aid. 1359 01:14:07.760 --> 01:14:11.239 Christine, I'm not asking about police right now, Christine, if 1360 01:14:11.279 --> 01:14:13.479 you would like, I would like to give, honest to 1361 01:14:13.560 --> 01:14:16.439 God an unbiased opinion on what you're just called on 1362 01:14:16.560 --> 01:14:20.560 the situation that sparked this feeling. So what happened? 1363 01:14:20.640 --> 01:14:21.039 Sure? 1364 01:14:21.920 --> 01:14:22.279 Okay? 1365 01:14:22.399 --> 01:14:27.000 So we volunteered twice a year to clean up abandoned 1366 01:14:27.000 --> 01:14:30.119 properties that either tenants or homeowners throw in the common 1367 01:14:30.159 --> 01:14:33.600 areas in the alleyway against the gas meters in the buildings. 1368 01:14:33.800 --> 01:14:37.920 We've been doing it for years. And a tenant had 1369 01:14:37.920 --> 01:14:41.199 a friend on fourth the dry weekend who actually helped 1370 01:14:41.279 --> 01:14:44.800 me load this broken planner leaning against the gas meters 1371 01:14:45.039 --> 01:14:47.600 with one hundred pounds of soil. It had been there 1372 01:14:47.600 --> 01:14:50.800 for almost a year. Neighbors were complaining. We loaded it 1373 01:14:50.840 --> 01:14:54.359 on my truck, including the tenant's friends who cargo strafted, 1374 01:14:54.680 --> 01:14:56.880 went to the dump with a receipt. A month and 1375 01:14:56.960 --> 01:14:59.359 a half later, the cops show up at my door. 1376 01:14:59.720 --> 01:15:03.119 I plain to them the ha On area. It's a 1377 01:15:03.159 --> 01:15:06.239 civil matter, it's a covenant violation, and we got a 1378 01:15:06.279 --> 01:15:09.560 receipt that it had no value. They wouldn't listen, so 1379 01:15:09.600 --> 01:15:13.000 we had to retain an attorney with HOA money to 1380 01:15:13.079 --> 01:15:13.720 go to court. 1381 01:15:13.960 --> 01:15:17.279 And so she stole something. It's pretty straightforward, Mark, Mark 1382 01:15:17.319 --> 01:15:21.359 hold on it. So seriously, So Christine, just wait when 1383 01:15:21.439 --> 01:15:25.079 you say you volunteer to clean up properties? Is that 1384 01:15:25.199 --> 01:15:26.600 within your subdivision? 1385 01:15:28.359 --> 01:15:28.760 Correct? 1386 01:15:28.800 --> 01:15:30.199 It's a private covenant. 1387 01:15:30.479 --> 01:15:33.640 Uh, I get it. I get it, just Christine, I 1388 01:15:33.680 --> 01:15:38.600 get it. Listen. So you go around for the HOA 1389 01:15:39.199 --> 01:15:42.920 and clean up property. Now do you clean up property 1390 01:15:43.000 --> 01:15:45.800 with or without permission of the people who live there? 1391 01:15:47.239 --> 01:15:51.199 So it's it's abandoned of it's not their yard. It's 1392 01:15:51.239 --> 01:15:53.640 actually at the edge of the buildings or between buildings. 1393 01:15:53.640 --> 01:15:56.239 We don't know whose it is. So management didn't know 1394 01:15:56.239 --> 01:15:59.920 whose it was. It was abandoned property and they didn't have. 1395 01:16:00.359 --> 01:16:03.319 So you do this, you do this with the blessings 1396 01:16:03.359 --> 01:16:04.560 of your ho A. 1397 01:16:06.119 --> 01:16:08.680 Correct, we have it under our covenant. And it was 1398 01:16:08.720 --> 01:16:09.640 like five. 1399 01:16:09.560 --> 01:16:12.760 Kit deck And what was it? What was it this 1400 01:16:12.880 --> 01:16:15.279 time that caused the police to inquire? 1401 01:16:17.239 --> 01:16:20.520 It was a tenant calling off saying they had broke 1402 01:16:20.600 --> 01:16:24.199 a broken garden planter that they hadn't gotten around to 1403 01:16:24.239 --> 01:16:27.600 try and fix it. So the lake snapped off. It 1404 01:16:27.640 --> 01:16:31.199 wasn't after a thought, it was his girlfriend. Wasn't even 1405 01:16:31.279 --> 01:16:31.720 his problem. 1406 01:16:31.720 --> 01:16:35.079 Okay, so the owner what cauled the cops because she 1407 01:16:35.199 --> 01:16:36.479 stole it, is what she's saying. 1408 01:16:36.560 --> 01:16:40.319 So you loaded up what Mark's just going to keep 1409 01:16:40.399 --> 01:16:42.399 chiming in, but I'm going to try to get fact here. 1410 01:16:42.760 --> 01:16:46.000 What did you actually load up? What did you load up? 1411 01:16:46.159 --> 01:16:49.039 So so actually their friend. 1412 01:16:49.600 --> 01:16:54.600 No, no, Christine, Christine please, Christine please, what exactly did 1413 01:16:54.640 --> 01:16:57.279 you load up and take to the dump that caused 1414 01:16:57.279 --> 01:16:58.720 the problem. 1415 01:16:59.319 --> 01:17:03.199 It was a broken garden planter, tipped over with no 1416 01:17:03.359 --> 01:17:06.640 leg again with weeds growing out of it, and it 1417 01:17:06.720 --> 01:17:08.439 was against the gas meters. 1418 01:17:08.560 --> 01:17:12.920 Okay, after you took it to the dump, the person 1419 01:17:13.039 --> 01:17:17.079 who lived there called the police or did someone else? 1420 01:17:19.239 --> 01:17:23.279 The person who is on the lease. Okay, the police, 1421 01:17:23.279 --> 01:17:25.800 but it's not his and it was a month later. 1422 01:17:25.880 --> 01:17:29.039 He didn't even know what was gone after almost a year. 1423 01:17:29.399 --> 01:17:31.760 Okay, were you let me ask you some Christine. Were 1424 01:17:31.760 --> 01:17:33.800 you charged with a crime? 1425 01:17:35.880 --> 01:17:39.359 I was charged with general steps for a person who 1426 01:17:39.479 --> 01:17:44.680 knowingly takes the property of value of another without with it. 1427 01:17:44.800 --> 01:17:48.079 Okay, I get it. Okay, so the tenant, the tenant 1428 01:17:48.119 --> 01:17:51.760 called police. Did the police actually charge. 1429 01:17:51.439 --> 01:17:54.279 You one cop? 1430 01:17:54.680 --> 01:17:57.079 Yes, would not listen to the common areas? 1431 01:17:57.159 --> 01:17:59.439 Okay, got it, I get it. I get listen. I 1432 01:17:59.439 --> 01:18:01.560 don't want your I just want to know what happened. 1433 01:18:02.039 --> 01:18:04.720 I know your opinion. It was wrong and it was 1434 01:18:04.760 --> 01:18:07.359 civil and they shouldn't have done it, and it wasn't theft, 1435 01:18:07.399 --> 01:18:10.800 and you had no intent. I get that. I'm trying 1436 01:18:10.840 --> 01:18:14.479 to get facts here. So one month later this happened. 1437 01:18:14.720 --> 01:18:16.479 Were you convicted of this? 1438 01:18:18.159 --> 01:18:18.239 No? 1439 01:18:18.560 --> 01:18:24.279 So what is going on is the officer told me 1440 01:18:24.560 --> 01:18:27.520 if I didn't answer his questions, he was gonna handcuff 1441 01:18:27.600 --> 01:18:31.279 me and drag me to jail, and then he lied 1442 01:18:31.319 --> 01:18:32.640 to two other police officers. 1443 01:18:33.199 --> 01:18:37.199 So listen, Christine, did this go to trial or was 1444 01:18:37.279 --> 01:18:39.520 this dismissed? Or is it still pending. 1445 01:18:40.359 --> 01:18:42.239 It's still pending, and we're going to trial. 1446 01:18:42.359 --> 01:18:45.640 And now when you say we is the h hold 1447 01:18:45.720 --> 01:18:48.279 on is the HOA defending you? 1448 01:18:49.760 --> 01:18:50.000 Yeah? 1449 01:18:50.239 --> 01:18:54.880 Yeah, Well it seems to me listen, listen, Christine, it's 1450 01:18:54.960 --> 01:19:00.000 really Christine. It seems to me that if you were 1451 01:19:00.039 --> 01:19:02.359 working with the h o A and the HUA is 1452 01:19:02.399 --> 01:19:05.760 defending you, and the police are calling this theft. 1453 01:19:06.159 --> 01:19:07.960 I mean, I have never heard of an h o 1454 01:19:08.119 --> 01:19:10.640 A that has the ability to come on my yard 1455 01:19:10.720 --> 01:19:14.479 and remove, for example, a couch from my front yard 1456 01:19:14.840 --> 01:19:18.399 without some kind of judgment of some Well. 1457 01:19:18.520 --> 01:19:21.159 I have no idea this. What kind of h o 1458 01:19:21.279 --> 01:19:23.920 A can go remove stuff from your brother? Hold on with? 1459 01:19:24.039 --> 01:19:34.520 This was this planter Christine? Where Christine Christine was the 1460 01:19:34.560 --> 01:19:39.760 planter in a common area? Yes, it was, Okay, I 1461 01:19:39.800 --> 01:19:44.600 don't see how they don't. They don't convict real thieves, 1462 01:19:44.680 --> 01:19:47.720 let alone people with the h o A and Mark. 1463 01:19:48.079 --> 01:19:53.359 Even if this is an HOA that's overly ambitious, let's say, 1464 01:19:53.399 --> 01:19:56.680 and they're they're even if they're jerks, this is clearly 1465 01:19:56.720 --> 01:19:59.920 not a robbery or a burglary. For God's sakes, I mean, 1466 01:20:00.520 --> 01:20:00.960 I don't know. 1467 01:20:01.000 --> 01:20:03.279 I go back, I go back to how the phone 1468 01:20:03.279 --> 01:20:06.840 call started she's got a problem with something on the ballot, 1469 01:20:07.079 --> 01:20:09.640 and it led up to she's been arrested. I don't 1470 01:20:09.640 --> 01:20:12.119 believe a damn word, she says, the way she led 1471 01:20:12.399 --> 01:20:13.279 the conversation. 1472 01:20:13.560 --> 01:20:14.000 I haven't. 1473 01:20:14.840 --> 01:20:18.560 I am not there arrested. I was cited with a ticket. 1474 01:20:19.159 --> 01:20:21.960 I can't tell you fair enough was charged. 1475 01:20:22.279 --> 01:20:25.640 She was charged with her But being so elusive about 1476 01:20:25.640 --> 01:20:27.319 the real issue is insane. 1477 01:20:27.680 --> 01:20:30.520 No, No, it's not the real issue. 1478 01:20:30.239 --> 01:20:33.159 Is they grow three to four percent a year over year, 1479 01:20:33.199 --> 01:20:37.119 and you don't think twenty cents more should be put towards. 1480 01:20:36.760 --> 01:20:40.399 The cops because Chris, they wrote you a ticket. Christine 1481 01:20:40.920 --> 01:20:44.680 did the d is the DA Christine is the district 1482 01:20:44.720 --> 01:20:47.039 attorney choosing to move forward with this? 1483 01:20:48.760 --> 01:20:50.760 Well, this is the funny part. I don't even have 1484 01:20:50.840 --> 01:20:53.399 a picture of the item to prove of it's a value. 1485 01:20:53.479 --> 01:20:56.760 I'm just asking you a question. I just asked a question. 1486 01:20:57.600 --> 01:21:03.800 Is the district attorney? Is the district attorney moving forward? 1487 01:21:05.439 --> 01:21:07.399 Yes, they won't drop it yet, but we're gonna send 1488 01:21:07.439 --> 01:21:09.600 him a memo because they have no proof at. 1489 01:21:09.439 --> 01:21:12.600 Okay, here's what I want you to do, Christine, do 1490 01:21:12.720 --> 01:21:16.079 me a favor. Seriously, I do believe this is a 1491 01:21:16.119 --> 01:21:19.760 waste of police time. However, I don't believe that's a 1492 01:21:19.920 --> 01:21:23.640 reason to vote against the police and their additional funding. 1493 01:21:23.680 --> 01:21:27.039 Do you understand I both. I do agree, though, that 1494 01:21:27.079 --> 01:21:31.800 this is ridiculous because real theft very seldom gets prosecuted. 1495 01:21:32.119 --> 01:21:35.319 I recall some people down in castle Rock driving away 1496 01:21:35.319 --> 01:21:38.439 from a supermarket with a load of Yes. Doesn't that 1497 01:21:38.520 --> 01:21:41.239 tell you there must be way more to this? Because 1498 01:21:41.399 --> 01:21:42.880 I agree that I. 1499 01:21:42.760 --> 01:21:46.760 Can't imagine the castle Rock police giving any kind of 1500 01:21:46.880 --> 01:21:50.079 crap about a plan. I know it's broken. There is 1501 01:21:50.279 --> 01:21:52.800 way the hell more to this. Well, that's why I 1502 01:21:52.880 --> 01:21:54.239 asked her to call me up with. 1503 01:21:56.640 --> 01:22:01.279 Please share. But Christine, why don't you share with us 1504 01:22:01.319 --> 01:22:06.159 instead of editorializing? How what else is involved in this? 1505 01:22:07.800 --> 01:22:11.439 So I got all the body cams I got. We 1506 01:22:12.439 --> 01:22:16.039 asked it during discovery for all of the dispatch. The 1507 01:22:16.239 --> 01:22:20.600 officer obviously has come out to I must have met 1508 01:22:20.640 --> 01:22:24.319 this officer Starvis before, because he kept telling them, Oh, 1509 01:22:24.319 --> 01:22:28.039 she's the president, she can't be harassed. Don't worry. These 1510 01:22:28.039 --> 01:22:30.079 tenants came up to me and literally told me they 1511 01:22:30.079 --> 01:22:32.119 were going to kick my ass, and I called the 1512 01:22:32.159 --> 01:22:36.000 cops came to my door. I cooperated as a representative 1513 01:22:36.039 --> 01:22:41.159 in my official capacity and told them, listen, I'm representing 1514 01:22:41.199 --> 01:22:44.000 the HOA. There's no crime here. Can I please charge? 1515 01:22:44.039 --> 01:22:46.680 These people were threatening to kick my ass. I don't 1516 01:22:46.680 --> 01:22:51.239 know who they are, these tenants, and he's fucked so 1517 01:22:51.279 --> 01:22:54.760 he basically has some kind of bias that everybody hates 1518 01:22:54.840 --> 01:22:57.279 the HOA president whatever. 1519 01:22:58.840 --> 01:23:01.640 You know. Listen, Christina, as I said, even if it's 1520 01:23:01.680 --> 01:23:04.600 an HOA on steroids, and I don't like a lot 1521 01:23:04.600 --> 01:23:08.159 of Hua's, I still, you know, I understand. I don't. 1522 01:23:08.199 --> 01:23:10.439 I think it's a waste of police time. But I 1523 01:23:10.479 --> 01:23:13.119 don't know all the story. As Mark said, there could 1524 01:23:13.199 --> 01:23:16.960 be way more than this than I know. So do 1525 01:23:17.079 --> 01:23:19.640 me a favor. Okay, I'm gonna ask. I'm gonna ask 1526 01:23:19.680 --> 01:23:22.359 a Deputy d to get the police report on this. 1527 01:23:22.920 --> 01:23:26.439 And uh, hold on, Christine, do you have a case Christine? 1528 01:23:26.520 --> 01:23:27.800 Do you have a case number? 1529 01:23:29.840 --> 01:23:33.119 I do, Tom, I will email it to your email. 1530 01:23:33.279 --> 01:23:34.239 I don't have it on me. 1531 01:23:34.439 --> 01:23:37.560 Okay, good, I will. I will look into it. I 1532 01:23:37.600 --> 01:23:40.000 gotta take a break. I'm Tom Martino three oh three 1533 01:23:40.039 --> 01:23:42.159 seven one three talk. Don't forget eight eight eight heating 1534 01:23:42.159 --> 01:23:45.600 dot com for your deep clean just forty five bucks. 1535 01:23:45.640 --> 01:23:48.560 On your furnace before the cold hits eight eight eight 1536 01:23:48.640 --> 01:23:57.640 heating dot com. Go with a sure thing Denver's best 1537 01:23:57.720 --> 01:24:00.640 roofer Excel Roofing dot com. 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Go ahead, 1548 01:24:41.039 --> 01:24:42.039 Deputy dot. 1549 01:24:44.319 --> 01:24:44.760 Provedent. 1550 01:24:45.359 --> 01:24:47.119 But what's that, sir? Go ahead? 1551 01:24:48.199 --> 01:24:51.119 But if anybody is on the fence, it's sit down 1552 01:24:51.199 --> 01:24:54.119 ticket that I want you to think about. All you 1553 01:24:54.159 --> 01:24:57.720 will have to do is go to YouTube and just 1554 01:24:57.800 --> 01:25:02.760 search for Senate Judici shary confirmations. You will not believe 1555 01:25:03.239 --> 01:25:09.399 the incompetent socialistic judges that the Democrats are trying to 1556 01:25:09.399 --> 01:25:12.520 put into circuit and district courts, which are going to 1557 01:25:12.560 --> 01:25:16.479 affect your day to day life much more than who's president. 1558 01:25:16.960 --> 01:25:20.159 So I suggest that if you're so not sure, just 1559 01:25:20.279 --> 01:25:24.720 google a couple of those Senate Judiciary hearings to see 1560 01:25:24.720 --> 01:25:27.079 what kind of people they're trying to put on the bench. 1561 01:25:30.359 --> 01:25:32.560 Yeah, Like, give me an example of what how do 1562 01:25:32.600 --> 01:25:35.119 you find out that they're incompetent? I'm serious. 1563 01:25:35.359 --> 01:25:39.760 Well, you watch the questions that the senators asked of them. 1564 01:25:40.039 --> 01:25:44.880 There's one I forget her name, but the highest that 1565 01:25:44.960 --> 01:25:48.479 she's ever been is a judge in a trans a 1566 01:25:48.600 --> 01:25:52.520 court and they're nominating her for district court judgeship. 1567 01:25:54.560 --> 01:25:58.159 Yeah, that seems like she's skipping a few stairs. 1568 01:25:58.359 --> 01:26:01.760 A lot of the people are out and out socialists. Colm, 1569 01:26:02.079 --> 01:26:04.720 It's really scary. Well kind of people are putting on 1570 01:26:04.760 --> 01:26:08.079 the bench, and I think that affects us much more 1571 01:26:08.439 --> 01:26:11.840 than who's president. So all I'm saying is just watch 1572 01:26:11.880 --> 01:26:12.960 a couple of these hearings. 1573 01:26:13.239 --> 01:26:16.119 But Doc, I followed you all the way up to 1574 01:26:16.159 --> 01:26:16.560 the end. 1575 01:26:17.000 --> 01:26:20.279 Let me tell you someone can shut that border off immediately. 1576 01:26:20.359 --> 01:26:23.000 That's Trump. He did it before, He'll do it again. 1577 01:26:23.039 --> 01:26:26.399 And I think that's the worst thing going on. What 1578 01:26:26.479 --> 01:26:29.479 do you think of the argument? I get this argument 1579 01:26:29.520 --> 01:26:32.199 all the time. I'd like to ask your question again. 1580 01:26:32.279 --> 01:26:38.800 This is on issues, and they say that. They always 1581 01:26:38.800 --> 01:26:43.479 say that Trump killed the bipartisan It would have given 1582 01:26:43.640 --> 01:26:47.600 amnesty to about a million people that they already let in. 1583 01:26:47.880 --> 01:26:51.800 Is the main reason the Republicans wouldn't touch it. Trump 1584 01:26:51.960 --> 01:26:54.920 wasn't in power at the time. It has nothing to 1585 01:26:54.960 --> 01:26:57.279 do with them. They weren't going to agree to give 1586 01:26:57.359 --> 01:27:00.279 amnesty to all those people instead. 1587 01:26:59.920 --> 01:27:03.359 Of forget that several Democrats supposed to be voted against 1588 01:27:03.399 --> 01:27:06.319 it too. Yeah, it wouldn't have passed anyhow. 1589 01:27:06.399 --> 01:27:10.119 And it also allowed five thousand a month back into 1590 01:27:10.159 --> 01:27:10.800 this country. 1591 01:27:11.039 --> 01:27:12.000 Yeah every month. 1592 01:27:13.039 --> 01:27:15.199 It might have been three thousand, but it allowed a 1593 01:27:15.239 --> 01:27:19.159 certain amount of people to come in all the time. Tom, 1594 01:27:19.239 --> 01:27:22.039 That's why they didn't get voted on. But the news 1595 01:27:22.079 --> 01:27:25.039 won't let you know that because they're all fake news. 1596 01:27:25.560 --> 01:27:28.680 But Mark, I'm talking about other issues like crime. 1597 01:27:31.439 --> 01:27:31.640 Doc. 1598 01:27:31.760 --> 01:27:33.560 I agree with you one hundred percent. 1599 01:27:33.640 --> 01:27:36.199 When you you were just basically you made the point, 1600 01:27:36.600 --> 01:27:39.319 and you know, I just disagree with you that this 1601 01:27:39.520 --> 01:27:42.279 these judges are more important than the president. 1602 01:27:42.359 --> 01:27:44.479 I totally disagree with that aspect. 1603 01:27:45.159 --> 01:27:47.159 I didn't say it were more important. I didn't want 1604 01:27:47.199 --> 01:27:50.159 to get into a discussion with Tom or you anybody 1605 01:27:50.199 --> 01:27:52.279 else about who'd vote for for president. 1606 01:27:52.560 --> 01:27:54.800 Yeah, well I'll tell people if you don't vote for Trump, 1607 01:27:54.840 --> 01:27:58.520 your nuts, okay. And there's not one person, there's no 1608 01:27:58.720 --> 01:28:02.840 one person involved in this conversation that's not voting for Trump. 1609 01:28:03.039 --> 01:28:06.520 So why not tell people who you're voting for? Mark? 1610 01:28:07.479 --> 01:28:09.560 Why do you feel? First of all, you know, it's 1611 01:28:09.560 --> 01:28:11.199 not that I don't want to tell people who I'm 1612 01:28:11.279 --> 01:28:14.079 voting for. I don't want people thinking when they tune 1613 01:28:14.119 --> 01:28:16.399 into this show, I'm trying to tell them how to 1614 01:28:16.439 --> 01:28:17.479 think and how to vote. 1615 01:28:17.520 --> 01:28:20.319 Well, you don't, and after next, after tomorrow, none of 1616 01:28:20.359 --> 01:28:22.359 it's going to matter anyhow, Right, three. 1617 01:28:23.600 --> 01:28:23.920 Go ahead. 1618 01:28:23.960 --> 01:28:27.199 That's why I'm telling people to just watch the Senate. 1619 01:28:27.840 --> 01:28:30.399 No, but you guys, No, no, no, no, no, let me explain something. 1620 01:28:30.720 --> 01:28:33.920 I'm not gonna I decided, you know what, truly, I'm 1621 01:28:33.960 --> 01:28:36.000 not going to try to control what you think. I mean, 1622 01:28:36.039 --> 01:28:38.000 what you say, Doc, you can say whatever you want, 1623 01:28:38.079 --> 01:28:40.880 like Mark does, just go. I don't care. I really don't. 1624 01:28:41.119 --> 01:28:42.439 I mean, I don't want to try. I'm not going 1625 01:28:42.479 --> 01:28:45.159 to censor you guys. I mean that that's a little 1626 01:28:45.279 --> 01:28:48.199 hypocritical too, if I censor people, if I. 1627 01:28:48.119 --> 01:28:51.119 Had people about I just made a point about the 1628 01:28:51.199 --> 01:28:54.479 down ticket, thinking about who you vote for for Senate 1629 01:28:54.520 --> 01:28:55.520 and representatives. 1630 01:28:55.680 --> 01:28:58.319 Hey, don't you, guys, And I'm asking you, guys, I mean, 1631 01:28:58.319 --> 01:28:59.960 I guess. If you don't want to answer, don't answer. 1632 01:29:00.079 --> 01:29:03.600 But don't you typically vote down ticket by party? Or 1633 01:29:03.600 --> 01:29:05.560 how do you guys do it? I'm curious. I've never 1634 01:29:05.600 --> 01:29:06.439 asked either of you. 1635 01:29:07.560 --> 01:29:11.479 Okay, go ahead, doc, I usually do. 1636 01:29:12.399 --> 01:29:15.720 But you know the thing, I have a poker group 1637 01:29:15.760 --> 01:29:22.199 with about ten guys that are all professionals on businesses, lawyers, 1638 01:29:22.239 --> 01:29:24.479 and every one of them and there are two lawyers 1639 01:29:24.520 --> 01:29:29.520 in the group, everyone from breeze. That is, it's ridiculous 1640 01:29:29.520 --> 01:29:33.760 for average people to vote on judges who have no idea. 1641 01:29:34.239 --> 01:29:37.119 That's true. That's really true. That's true. 1642 01:29:37.680 --> 01:29:41.479 So he just said, leaves a blank and it's and 1643 01:29:41.560 --> 01:29:44.840 if the if the Bar Association or I don't know 1644 01:29:44.880 --> 01:29:48.199 who super was judges, if there's an issue, you'll deal 1645 01:29:48.239 --> 01:29:51.960 with it. We have no concept of which judges are 1646 01:29:51.960 --> 01:29:52.399 good of bad. 1647 01:29:52.520 --> 01:29:56.039 That's absolutely right. We don't. And and really low information 1648 01:29:56.239 --> 01:30:00.399 voting is probably the majority of our electric When it 1649 01:30:00.439 --> 01:30:02.680 comes to any issue. 1650 01:30:02.359 --> 01:30:05.479 They agree. They get their news from TikTok. I mean 1651 01:30:05.520 --> 01:30:06.399 I agree. 1652 01:30:06.319 --> 01:30:09.600 Well, or or from one side or the other. 1653 01:30:09.840 --> 01:30:12.720 Well, look at the Denver voters that voted on the Gallagher. 1654 01:30:12.800 --> 01:30:17.479 Then they were shocked when their property their property taxes 1655 01:30:17.520 --> 01:30:21.199 went up fifty percent. They were like, vote what happened? Well, 1656 01:30:21.279 --> 01:30:22.880 you dummy, you voted for it. 1657 01:30:23.119 --> 01:30:26.520 One thing I really invite, I swear to God, and 1658 01:30:27.479 --> 01:30:31.399 I want someone progressive to call and to tell me 1659 01:30:32.039 --> 01:30:34.520 what they think and how they are voting. If they 1660 01:30:34.560 --> 01:30:37.560 want to, I will treat them with respect and let 1661 01:30:37.600 --> 01:30:40.640 them err. I mean, here's what I say. I don't 1662 01:30:40.720 --> 01:30:43.199 look when you said, Mark, how do I vote? Down ticket? 1663 01:30:43.279 --> 01:30:45.840 How do I vote? Okay? I used to think you 1664 01:30:45.920 --> 01:30:49.439 vote for the person and you don't vote. You vote 1665 01:30:49.439 --> 01:30:52.279 for the person. But now I say this, that's really 1666 01:30:52.319 --> 01:30:55.760 not accurate. You got to vote for the platform because 1667 01:30:55.840 --> 01:30:59.079 even if you have someone that you like, unless they 1668 01:30:59.119 --> 01:31:03.800 will truly truly vote against their own party's platform on 1669 01:31:04.000 --> 01:31:08.680 major like Liz Cheney. I agree. No, I'm saying, unless 1670 01:31:08.720 --> 01:31:12.680 you have someone Mark, please don't exaggerate what I'm saying. 1671 01:31:12.680 --> 01:31:17.039 Here's what I'm saying. I wasn't exaggerating. I agree with you. Okay. 1672 01:31:17.079 --> 01:31:20.560 If you believe in, let's say the Republican platform, let's 1673 01:31:20.560 --> 01:31:23.279 just say you do, and you know that there's a 1674 01:31:23.319 --> 01:31:27.159 Democrat who will take issue by issue and not just 1675 01:31:27.239 --> 01:31:30.039 go straight Democrat, then you might vote for that person. 1676 01:31:30.920 --> 01:31:33.119 But I was a Republican. If you think there's a 1677 01:31:33.159 --> 01:31:38.359 Republican who's waffling and will not vote for the Republican platform, 1678 01:31:39.680 --> 01:31:43.000 if you want the platform, you look at because really 1679 01:31:43.039 --> 01:31:46.359 and truly, that is what's going to rule the agenda. 1680 01:31:46.800 --> 01:31:50.920 It's their platform's I used to think it was the individual. 1681 01:31:51.079 --> 01:31:55.479 It's not. It's the platform. I don't care what Harris 1682 01:31:55.520 --> 01:31:58.720 says or what Trump says they want to do personally, 1683 01:31:59.000 --> 01:32:02.479 because the platform, the party will not let them and 1684 01:32:02.520 --> 01:32:05.560 the majority of people are going to rule. And so 1685 01:32:05.800 --> 01:32:08.479 if you want to get your and I don't believe 1686 01:32:08.520 --> 01:32:11.920 in a lopsided party, no matter what, We've been lopsided 1687 01:32:12.159 --> 01:32:19.039 so long. Right now on a socialist in Caloracra progressive platform, 1688 01:32:19.279 --> 01:32:23.880 it's bad. I like discussion, I like debate. I like 1689 01:32:23.960 --> 01:32:28.399 when it's on a razor's edge and it takes skill 1690 01:32:28.960 --> 01:32:31.640 and it takes honesty to get something passed. Do you 1691 01:32:31.720 --> 01:32:32.960 remember when you do? 1692 01:32:33.039 --> 01:32:35.600 You remember you and I back in the day, early 1693 01:32:35.640 --> 01:32:38.800 two thousand's, late nineties. You know, we would go down 1694 01:32:39.159 --> 01:32:42.399 for dinner to the sixteenth Street mall. We never saw 1695 01:32:42.479 --> 01:32:45.920 homeless anywhere. You didn't hear about theft. Colorado wasn't the 1696 01:32:46.000 --> 01:32:49.159 number one place in the country where cars were stolen. 1697 01:32:49.439 --> 01:32:53.399 I mean this, This entire state has gone to hell 1698 01:32:53.560 --> 01:32:55.000 under the current administration. 1699 01:32:57.079 --> 01:33:01.960 Yes, it absolutely has. It absolutely has. And unfortunately, if 1700 01:33:02.000 --> 01:33:05.880 you look around the country, in every progressive city there is, 1701 01:33:06.479 --> 01:33:10.920 they have rampant crime. They have terrible economies, businesses are 1702 01:33:10.920 --> 01:33:14.760 closing and exiting. If that's just a fact, folks, I'm sorry, 1703 01:33:14.880 --> 01:33:17.680 that's a fact. You want to prove me wrong, then 1704 01:33:17.720 --> 01:33:20.239 tell me someone who's thriving under that. And you know 1705 01:33:20.359 --> 01:33:24.720 what's really funny is CBS Morning News Sunday Morning. CBS 1706 01:33:24.760 --> 01:33:28.760 Sunday Morning did a story about Venezuela and they did 1707 01:33:28.800 --> 01:33:31.560 a story about how that country is one of the 1708 01:33:31.680 --> 01:33:36.199 richest resources for oil and the poorest and people can't 1709 01:33:36.199 --> 01:33:38.640 afford to eat. I'm telling you, they did an social 1710 01:33:39.000 --> 01:33:41.960 story here. This is when they said the downfall started. 1711 01:33:42.000 --> 01:33:45.079 They said themselves with Hugo Chavez, and then it went 1712 01:33:45.119 --> 01:33:49.159 and it continued to go downhill. They never once mentioned, never, once, 1713 01:33:49.279 --> 01:33:53.359 the word socialism. Never once. Can you imagine doing a 1714 01:33:53.439 --> 01:33:57.800 story on the decay of Venezuela and how it went 1715 01:33:57.880 --> 01:34:02.960 to hell and never mention the word socialism because every 1716 01:34:03.079 --> 01:34:07.760 single politician who did it to them were socialists. They 1717 01:34:08.039 --> 01:34:11.640 never mentioned it once. How can you be a journalist 1718 01:34:11.840 --> 01:34:14.319 and do a story about the decay and fall of 1719 01:34:14.359 --> 01:34:19.039 a country who elected Chavez and the rest of them 1720 01:34:19.119 --> 01:34:23.279 and never once mentioned socialism? We got more coming up. 1721 01:34:28.840 --> 01:34:32.119 Go with a sure thing Denver's best roofer Excel Roofing 1722 01:34:32.199 --> 01:34:34.840 dot com. You don't pay a cent until you're content. 1723 01:34:38.239 --> 01:34:41.399 Time for an insurance checkup free, no obligation. In comparison, 1724 01:34:41.560 --> 01:34:45.119 call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens 1725 01:34:45.119 --> 01:34:47.840 of insurance companies find out now three o three seven 1726 01:34:47.880 --> 01:34:50.199 to seven to one help. You'll think you're his only 1727 01:34:50.319 --> 01:34:52.800 customer when you choose Frank durand the real estate Man 1728 01:34:52.840 --> 01:34:56.199 dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance three 1729 01:34:56.439 --> 01:35:01.119 three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Tom Martino, you're 1730 01:35:01.520 --> 01:35:05.800 shire till three seven one three talk so Barry Miller's 1731 01:35:05.800 --> 01:35:07.680 with us by the way, and we're talking about Vestera 1732 01:35:07.760 --> 01:35:11.239 Turnkey and my biggest return dot Com will help you 1733 01:35:12.359 --> 01:35:15.199 sign up for the webinar December seventh where you can 1734 01:35:15.199 --> 01:35:17.439 ask any of all questions, and of course you can 1735 01:35:17.479 --> 01:35:19.479 ask that now and we do have a lot of questions. 1736 01:35:19.840 --> 01:35:22.439 And Mark, when you mentioned is this a group investment 1737 01:35:22.479 --> 01:35:24.479 in all that that, I can see why people think that, 1738 01:35:24.760 --> 01:35:27.520 But now you understand it better that each person is 1739 01:35:27.640 --> 01:35:32.159 individually handled through Vestera to find a property for you. 1740 01:35:32.159 --> 01:35:35.199 You're basically paying them a little money because they are 1741 01:35:35.439 --> 01:35:40.520 very good at going out and finding undervalued properties that 1742 01:35:40.600 --> 01:35:43.039 are basically ready to rent out and hopefully you make 1743 01:35:43.079 --> 01:35:45.319 some good money on them in two or three years 1744 01:35:45.399 --> 01:35:46.199 when you sell them. 1745 01:35:46.560 --> 01:35:50.119 But the really good part is that you don't pay 1746 01:35:50.119 --> 01:35:53.640 them ongoing funds. I mean, in fact, I asked Barry Miller, 1747 01:35:54.079 --> 01:35:57.479 Vestera Turnkey, that's like a finder's fee. Well, that's all 1748 01:35:57.520 --> 01:35:59.680 they get is a fee going in and a fee 1749 01:35:59.720 --> 01:36:01.640 when you sell if you want to sell through them, 1750 01:36:01.680 --> 01:36:04.920 and there's no obligation. I don't understand truly, Mark, and 1751 01:36:04.960 --> 01:36:07.279 I mean this, I don't understand how he makes enough 1752 01:36:07.319 --> 01:36:09.520 money on each property or each client to do that. 1753 01:36:09.960 --> 01:36:13.399 If that's all they pay. I mean truly, Now they 1754 01:36:13.399 --> 01:36:16.359 pay that three sixty if they want to have the 1755 01:36:16.439 --> 01:36:19.720 stereotake all the phone calls and manage and micromanage it. 1756 01:36:20.039 --> 01:36:23.960 But that's pennies three sixty a year. And then and 1757 01:36:24.000 --> 01:36:28.479 then they also have management companies that don't make He 1758 01:36:28.520 --> 01:36:31.239 doesn't make a spread from the management company. They don't 1759 01:36:31.239 --> 01:36:34.319 pay him anything. He doesn't mark up management. The management 1760 01:36:34.359 --> 01:36:37.720 company is a pass through. Everything done is a pass through. 1761 01:36:37.920 --> 01:36:40.560 The only money they make is on the way in 1762 01:36:40.640 --> 01:36:42.960 and on the way out. Is that right? 1763 01:36:43.239 --> 01:36:43.920 That's correct? 1764 01:36:44.399 --> 01:36:48.399 I mean, and I do mean that. Practically it doesn't 1765 01:36:48.439 --> 01:36:49.399 seem like enough. 1766 01:36:49.560 --> 01:36:52.479 It works because of there are a lot of smart 1767 01:36:52.600 --> 01:36:56.319 investors who want to build their nest eggs, build their wealth. 1768 01:36:56.680 --> 01:37:00.680 And its volume okay, okay, but it's not huge volume 1769 01:37:00.720 --> 01:37:05.239 because every consumer gets attention. But it's volume. We're doing 1770 01:37:05.319 --> 01:37:07.319 fine financially, but they're good. 1771 01:37:07.720 --> 01:37:11.119 But if you think about a sixty thousand dollars investment minimum, 1772 01:37:11.159 --> 01:37:14.079 if you have somebody investing sixty or six hundred, they 1773 01:37:14.119 --> 01:37:17.479 get the same attention and you and and the one 1774 01:37:17.520 --> 01:37:21.680 who's paying six hundred buys multiple multiple multiproperty, they're there 1775 01:37:21.760 --> 01:37:25.399 or or whatever. They're buying a lot of properties, they're 1776 01:37:25.439 --> 01:37:27.640 going to take up way more time. But you are 1777 01:37:27.680 --> 01:37:32.039 making essentially the fee going in and going out. Okay, 1778 01:37:32.079 --> 01:37:35.600 and the people buying multiple properties you're making more money 1779 01:37:35.600 --> 01:37:38.439 on but you're spending as much time with somebody who 1780 01:37:38.479 --> 01:37:39.399 buys one property. 1781 01:37:39.520 --> 01:37:39.960 Correct. 1782 01:37:40.439 --> 01:37:42.439 Okay. I don't know how the model works now. I 1783 01:37:42.479 --> 01:37:44.920 mean I'm saying it does because I believe you and 1784 01:37:44.960 --> 01:37:48.439 I you're truly golden in my eyes as far as 1785 01:37:48.640 --> 01:37:51.600 as far as credibility. It's amazing to me that you 1786 01:37:51.640 --> 01:37:54.920 can do this. I don't know at what point, mark, 1787 01:37:55.119 --> 01:37:58.199 but doesn't that Isn't that what amazes you? That it's 1788 01:37:58.239 --> 01:38:01.079 really a small commission coming and going that does it? 1789 01:38:01.760 --> 01:38:02.000 Yeah? 1790 01:38:02.000 --> 01:38:05.279 For if the research is as good as it sounds, 1791 01:38:05.319 --> 01:38:07.800 and as far as I can see, the past history 1792 01:38:07.880 --> 01:38:10.600 is great. I mean I would have no idea how 1793 01:38:10.640 --> 01:38:14.199 to go around the country and find undervalued properties. I 1794 01:38:14.279 --> 01:38:16.520 just would have no idea where to start. And that 1795 01:38:16.680 --> 01:38:18.960 is something you would pay for. I mean I have 1796 01:38:19.079 --> 01:38:19.960 no problem with that. 1797 01:38:20.439 --> 01:38:24.439 Yeah. And then the management is cheap. His management companies 1798 01:38:24.479 --> 01:38:26.399 are cheaper than if you had one right here doing 1799 01:38:26.399 --> 01:38:26.920 it well. 1800 01:38:26.920 --> 01:38:29.680 They're ten eleven percent on the monthly. 1801 01:38:29.960 --> 01:38:33.239 Some of them are nine, right, Well, I negotiate them 1802 01:38:33.279 --> 01:38:36.279 to nine because we're sending them enough business and that 1803 01:38:36.319 --> 01:38:38.760 gets passed on to the consumer one hundred percent. 1804 01:38:39.359 --> 01:38:42.079 I get a little afraid of management companies, and has 1805 01:38:42.159 --> 01:38:44.760 nothing to do with this conversation. 1806 01:38:44.920 --> 01:38:47.159 But I've never been a landlord. 1807 01:38:47.680 --> 01:38:50.359 I've always thought, if I had a management company and 1808 01:38:50.439 --> 01:38:53.880 someone calls up and says, hey, my furnace isn't blowing 1809 01:38:53.920 --> 01:38:55.800 as hot as it was, all of a sudden, I'm 1810 01:38:55.800 --> 01:38:58.039 going to end up with a three thousand dollars bill, 1811 01:38:58.199 --> 01:38:58.880 and so does that? 1812 01:38:59.119 --> 01:38:59.840 How does that work? 1813 01:39:00.760 --> 01:39:02.119 That's why we're in the middle. 1814 01:39:02.359 --> 01:39:02.560 Now. 1815 01:39:02.600 --> 01:39:06.359 We get very few of those calls because you use 1816 01:39:06.439 --> 01:39:10.359 the term where cherry picking the right properties. However, the 1817 01:39:10.439 --> 01:39:13.880 worst one we had was an eleven hundred dollars bill 1818 01:39:14.279 --> 01:39:17.840 now to replace two front doors, the storm door and 1819 01:39:17.880 --> 01:39:18.359 the other door. 1820 01:39:18.439 --> 01:39:20.600 Long story made short. I got involved. 1821 01:39:20.640 --> 01:39:24.119 I said, wait a minute, send me pictures of the framing. 1822 01:39:23.800 --> 01:39:27.159 Of the inside door. And they did not need to 1823 01:39:27.199 --> 01:39:30.159 replace the door. They had to take it off the hinges. 1824 01:39:30.000 --> 01:39:33.840 Replace one foot of wood for the hinge. It ended 1825 01:39:33.920 --> 01:39:36.720 up being a total cost of four hundred and forty 1826 01:39:36.800 --> 01:39:41.760 dollars Instead of eleven hundred. But we watch our customers' 1827 01:39:41.760 --> 01:39:45.520 properties with that kind of microscope because we're able to 1828 01:39:45.600 --> 01:39:48.520 do it, we're good at it, and our research is 1829 01:39:48.640 --> 01:39:53.520 stellar beyond even Marks thinking what it might be Right now, Mark, 1830 01:39:54.159 --> 01:39:55.920 ye say that in a positive way. 1831 01:39:56.079 --> 01:39:59.720 No, No, I understand that, and so and Mark Management 1832 01:39:59.760 --> 01:40:01.680 come panies. You're absolutely right. 1833 01:40:01.720 --> 01:40:03.720 Oh, they scare the hell out of me. 1834 01:40:03.720 --> 01:40:07.800 Their brother in law's a plumber. There there are other 1835 01:40:07.880 --> 01:40:10.479 guys are roof for next thing. You know, you're feeding 1836 01:40:10.479 --> 01:40:12.560 all their families and you're going broke. 1837 01:40:12.880 --> 01:40:16.760 That can happen. That can absolutely happen. And that's one 1838 01:40:16.760 --> 01:40:20.279 of the reasons I like Barry because he only uses 1839 01:40:20.520 --> 01:40:22.640 the ones who go with him know they're going to 1840 01:40:22.680 --> 01:40:25.319 get business after business after business and speaking about how 1841 01:40:25.359 --> 01:40:27.960 much business they're sending them, so they make sure they 1842 01:40:27.960 --> 01:40:28.960 send them only the best. 1843 01:40:29.279 --> 01:40:32.399 There's another another part of us, and I think. 1844 01:40:32.319 --> 01:40:34.479 Let me throw this in real quick while we're talking 1845 01:40:34.520 --> 01:40:36.399 about and throw it. 1846 01:40:36.439 --> 01:40:37.239 Hold on, I just kid. 1847 01:40:37.560 --> 01:40:40.319 One of the biggest parts so, no matter what, is 1848 01:40:40.439 --> 01:40:43.600 finding that right tenant. Because if you have the right tenant, 1849 01:40:43.960 --> 01:40:45.680 you're not going to run into a lot of these 1850 01:40:45.680 --> 01:40:47.119 problems because they're good people. 1851 01:40:47.479 --> 01:40:54.680 That's right. We got more coming right up. Go with 1852 01:40:54.760 --> 01:40:58.319 a sure thing Denver's best roofer Excel Roofing dot com. 1853 01:40:58.359 --> 01:41:04.079 You don't pay a cent until you're ten. Time for 1854 01:41:04.119 --> 01:41:08.479 an insurance checkup free, no obligation. Comparison call Compass Insurance 1855 01:41:08.640 --> 01:41:11.640 paying too much your coverage at dozens of insurance companies 1856 01:41:11.720 --> 01:41:14.319 find out now three all three seven seven one help. 1857 01:41:14.479 --> 01:41:17.119 You'll think you're his only customer when you choose Frank 1858 01:41:17.199 --> 01:41:19.640 durand the real estate Man dot com to list your 1859 01:41:19.680 --> 01:41:22.800 home with Remax Alliance three all three nine two zero 1860 01:41:22.960 --> 01:41:29.680 sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martina on here three all 1861 01:41:29.760 --> 01:41:33.239 three seven one three talk three O three seven one 1862 01:41:33.279 --> 01:41:37.439 three eight two five five. I have a question here 1863 01:41:37.520 --> 01:41:40.720 for Barry. They want to know about damages to property 1864 01:41:40.760 --> 01:41:44.119 and all that. Of course you have insurance, right obviously 1865 01:41:44.159 --> 01:41:46.800 you have insurance to have a regular insurance people you 1866 01:41:46.840 --> 01:41:49.520 work with or it's whatever city 're and I guess 1867 01:41:49.520 --> 01:41:51.079 they have to be licensed in that state. 1868 01:41:51.279 --> 01:41:52.560 Well they don't have to be. 1869 01:41:52.640 --> 01:41:57.119 But we have two insurance brokers in all of our cities, 1870 01:41:57.199 --> 01:42:01.039 and we have two here in Denver Brokers Insurance Progress 1871 01:42:01.359 --> 01:42:04.279 and then they can shop us, so we comparatively shop 1872 01:42:04.680 --> 01:42:08.840 also so that our customers get the best coverage, lowest price. 1873 01:42:09.000 --> 01:42:12.720 And of course they are responsible for the for the 1874 01:42:13.279 --> 01:42:15.159 for you know, any other damages. 1875 01:42:15.399 --> 01:42:20.079 But more than insurance, Tom, it's picking the right property. 1876 01:42:20.199 --> 01:42:23.000 Our buyer agents and the right tenants. 1877 01:42:22.479 --> 01:42:25.960 But the right tenants are critical once you have the property, 1878 01:42:26.239 --> 01:42:30.199 but the property our buyer agent team members do what 1879 01:42:30.279 --> 01:42:34.960 we call a non inspector's inspection of the property before 1880 01:42:35.000 --> 01:42:38.319 they ever tell us that it might be a good property. 1881 01:42:38.680 --> 01:42:42.920 So our properties are getting two and three professional eyes 1882 01:42:43.439 --> 01:42:48.039 looking at it before the professional inspector does their inspection. 1883 01:42:48.600 --> 01:42:51.920 I mean we are very how many let's just say, 1884 01:42:51.920 --> 01:42:55.239 in the last twenty years, since two thousand, how many 1885 01:42:55.239 --> 01:42:57.760 homes have you guys bought and sold? 1886 01:42:58.720 --> 01:43:04.359 Hundreds? Okay, okay, hundreds where now? But I had a 1887 01:43:04.359 --> 01:43:07.279 big family issue. I was shut down for eight to 1888 01:43:07.399 --> 01:43:12.039 nine years. I reactivated it twenty nineteen and we're still 1889 01:43:12.119 --> 01:43:16.319 in the small hundred of properties. And we have had 1890 01:43:16.680 --> 01:43:20.720 no properties go south on us. And here we've had 1891 01:43:20.800 --> 01:43:24.359 one or two problems. Out of about every forty properties, 1892 01:43:24.640 --> 01:43:29.439 we predict two we'll have a fixed up problem in 1893 01:43:29.520 --> 01:43:30.239 the first year. 1894 01:43:30.720 --> 01:43:31.640 Two out of forty. 1895 01:43:32.359 --> 01:43:34.720 Anyway, we got more coming up on The Troubleshooter Show 1896 01:43:34.760 --> 01:43:37.640 three oh three seven to one three talk three all 1897 01:43:37.720 --> 01:43:43.800 three seven one three eight two five five. 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Time for 1900 01:43:53.239 --> 01:43:57.000 an insurance check up free, no obligation comparison call Compass 1901 01:43:57.039 --> 01:44:00.319 Insurance paying too much your coverage had dozens of insurance 1902 01:44:00.359 --> 01:44:02.880 companies find out now three all three seven seven to 1903 01:44:02.920 --> 01:44:05.720 one Help You'll think you're his only customer when you 1904 01:44:05.800 --> 01:44:08.239 choose Frank durand the real estate Man dot com to 1905 01:44:08.319 --> 01:44:11.479 list your home with Remax Alliance three all three nine 1906 01:44:11.560 --> 01:44:13.000 two zero sixteen twenty two. 1907 01:44:14.279 --> 01:44:24.279 Yea ripped new needed that's who you don't have. 1908 01:44:26.520 --> 01:44:28.920 Come run in just as fast as we can. 1909 01:44:29.800 --> 01:44:32.520 Shooter's gonna help come. 1910 01:44:33.680 --> 01:44:34.000 Dix. 1911 01:44:34.439 --> 01:44:37.880 Is the Troubleshooter Show. Now, Tom Martino. 1912 01:44:39.159 --> 01:44:41.840 Hi, I'm Tom Martino. Welcome to the show. Three oh 1913 01:44:41.880 --> 01:44:44.760 three seven one three talk seven one three eight two 1914 01:44:44.840 --> 01:44:48.880 five five. We are talking about all kinds of things today, 1915 01:44:49.239 --> 01:44:53.359 and if your mind is on making your money safe 1916 01:44:53.960 --> 01:44:57.000 and making your money uh and making someone accountable to 1917 01:44:57.039 --> 01:45:00.520 you directly Wave eight Wealth Managed, I mean is my 1918 01:45:00.640 --> 01:45:04.119 company that I started for that very reason. I was 1919 01:45:04.159 --> 01:45:08.279 tired of the industry, so I started my own advisory company. 1920 01:45:08.520 --> 01:45:10.680 I started doing it for myself six years ago and 1921 01:45:10.720 --> 01:45:15.439 recently was registered with the Securities Division with Colorado. And 1922 01:45:15.520 --> 01:45:19.359 we are open for business for the public, and I 1923 01:45:19.439 --> 01:45:23.920 pledge to you we are going to give personal approaches 1924 01:45:24.720 --> 01:45:28.159 and attention to each and every person for their objectives, 1925 01:45:28.439 --> 01:45:31.760 objectives and goals. There is no We're not middlemen and 1926 01:45:31.840 --> 01:45:35.399 will not shuttle it off to a larger advisor if 1927 01:45:35.399 --> 01:45:38.399 the truth be told, That's what ninety eight percent of 1928 01:45:38.439 --> 01:45:41.920 the industry does. And I urge you to just at 1929 01:45:42.000 --> 01:45:47.159 least explore it. If you're tired of not getting answers, 1930 01:45:47.199 --> 01:45:49.800 give me a call three h three seven seven to 1931 01:45:49.880 --> 01:45:53.199 one help seven seven one four three five seven. You 1932 01:45:53.239 --> 01:45:57.319 can also go to invest with Martino dot com, which 1933 01:45:57.359 --> 01:46:02.439 is the company's website. We have a show here dedicated 1934 01:46:02.479 --> 01:46:05.239 to helping you in every aspect of life. My guest 1935 01:46:05.279 --> 01:46:09.039 today is Barry Miller with festera Turnkey. He's talking about 1936 01:46:09.079 --> 01:46:12.039 real estate, but whatever you want to talk about, whether 1937 01:46:12.079 --> 01:46:16.560 it be getting out of debt, buying a car, a 1938 01:46:16.600 --> 01:46:20.600 problem with your career, if you want to talk about 1939 01:46:20.600 --> 01:46:23.560 somebody lying to you, cheating, or ripping you off. Deputy 1940 01:46:23.560 --> 01:46:27.920 Bow has a follow up on a problem that's been 1941 01:46:27.960 --> 01:46:32.039 bugging the hell out of us, and that is this 1942 01:46:32.119 --> 01:46:35.840 woman said she went to a gas station and somehow 1943 01:46:36.479 --> 01:46:40.000 put red diesel in her car by mistake. But she 1944 01:46:40.199 --> 01:46:43.720 said it wasn't her that did that. She said it 1945 01:46:43.800 --> 01:46:47.520 came out of the regular gas tank. Well, I was 1946 01:46:47.600 --> 01:46:51.720 told the nozzle is a different size for diesel, so 1947 01:46:51.760 --> 01:46:54.000 she couldn't have put the diesel one in her car. 1948 01:46:54.640 --> 01:46:57.000 It would have had to come out of the gasoline tank. 1949 01:46:57.359 --> 01:47:00.159 But the gasoline station is saying no, no, no, oh, 1950 01:47:00.560 --> 01:47:03.479 she did it by mistake. But what were you able 1951 01:47:03.520 --> 01:47:04.520 to find out on this? 1952 01:47:05.000 --> 01:47:07.640 So I made a couple of calls up there to 1953 01:47:07.720 --> 01:47:13.520 the Sinclair station on six forty US Highway to eighty five. 1954 01:47:16.000 --> 01:47:19.279 They denied everything about this. 1955 01:47:19.479 --> 01:47:22.960 But I believe, Oh what does it mean? They denied 1956 01:47:23.039 --> 01:47:24.039 everything about this? 1957 01:47:24.159 --> 01:47:28.600 They I believe they put the red diesel fuel in 1958 01:47:28.640 --> 01:47:31.800 the underground tank and it's being dispensed out of the 1959 01:47:31.840 --> 01:47:33.720 regular gas pump. 1960 01:47:33.960 --> 01:47:36.920 Now why do you believe that? Well? 1961 01:47:36.960 --> 01:47:40.640 I believe that because the caller said she got she received. 1962 01:47:41.199 --> 01:47:44.680 She seemed like an intelligent person. And you said so yourself, Tom, 1963 01:47:44.720 --> 01:47:48.359 you can't put the diesel nozzle from the fuel pump 1964 01:47:48.439 --> 01:47:50.439 into a regular regular nozzle. 1965 01:47:50.439 --> 01:47:51.119 It's impossible. 1966 01:47:51.199 --> 01:47:55.239 The red diesel is different than that's for the farm vehicles. 1967 01:47:55.680 --> 01:47:57.119 Yeah, I had to look it up. I didn't. 1968 01:47:57.119 --> 01:47:58.439 I never heard of red diesel. 1969 01:47:58.520 --> 01:48:01.520 But I guess that's not tax next right. 1970 01:48:01.359 --> 01:48:03.960 There, for that's right to give a break to the 1971 01:48:04.000 --> 01:48:07.319 agricultural biz or for people using it for heat. 1972 01:48:08.000 --> 01:48:11.279 And she broke down a few miles after she put 1973 01:48:11.319 --> 01:48:13.560 this red diesel in her car, and it caused over 1974 01:48:13.680 --> 01:48:15.479 twenty two hundred dollars worth of damage. 1975 01:48:15.479 --> 01:48:17.680 But what I wanted to know is does the red 1976 01:48:17.720 --> 01:48:22.560 diesel pump have a different sized nozzle like the regular diesel? 1977 01:48:22.680 --> 01:48:28.239 Yes it does, Mark, You said, yes, yes it does. 1978 01:48:29.560 --> 01:48:31.840 So then there was no way she could have gotten 1979 01:48:31.840 --> 01:48:32.880 that in her car. 1980 01:48:34.720 --> 01:48:38.479 I believe the red diesel is in the underground tank. 1981 01:48:38.600 --> 01:48:41.000 Well it was. I doubt if it's still there. For 1982 01:48:41.039 --> 01:48:43.439 goodness sakes, look at all the trouble they'd I mean, 1983 01:48:43.479 --> 01:48:44.600 we'd be getting calls. 1984 01:48:44.439 --> 01:48:47.720 Right, That's that's a purpose for me doing this follow up. 1985 01:48:47.760 --> 01:48:50.439 I would like to know to our listening audience if 1986 01:48:50.479 --> 01:48:54.119 they've had experience with this Saint Clair station up been. 1987 01:48:54.279 --> 01:48:56.920 I was told it's in fair play, fair play. 1988 01:48:56.960 --> 01:48:59.960 It's on six forty US Highway to eighty five. 1989 01:49:00.039 --> 01:49:00.520 If it's a. 1990 01:49:01.760 --> 01:49:06.640 Okay on on US two eighty five in fair play. Yeah, 1991 01:49:06.840 --> 01:49:09.159 and there would have been quite a few places. 1992 01:49:11.039 --> 01:49:14.319 So what I told Hannah to do is to call 1993 01:49:14.439 --> 01:49:17.800 the Colorado Division of Oil and Public Safety. 1994 01:49:18.159 --> 01:49:19.680 And lodge a complaint. 1995 01:49:20.520 --> 01:49:21.720 I followed up with her. 1996 01:49:22.239 --> 01:49:25.760 She did this Friday, and today they're sending an investigator 1997 01:49:25.840 --> 01:49:27.079 up to this field. 1998 01:49:26.760 --> 01:49:29.399 Station, gas station and fair play. 1999 01:49:29.439 --> 01:49:31.079 So I was really impressed at they're going down. 2000 01:49:32.039 --> 01:49:34.720 What would the state Oil and Gas inspector? What would 2001 01:49:34.760 --> 01:49:36.640 they be able to find out after the fact? Do 2002 01:49:36.720 --> 01:49:39.760 you think, Tom? I don't know. 2003 01:49:40.439 --> 01:49:43.479 I agree maybe that all the red diesel got pumped out, 2004 01:49:43.479 --> 01:49:45.359 but maybe I'm hoping that. 2005 01:49:45.640 --> 01:49:48.479 Other people call in or there's other complaints. 2006 01:49:48.920 --> 01:49:52.399 I told Hannah to ask this inspector if they've received 2007 01:49:52.439 --> 01:49:54.039 other complaints. 2008 01:49:53.680 --> 01:49:57.239 That, well, what did the tell me this? What did 2009 01:49:57.239 --> 01:49:59.960 the actual gas station say to you when you called them? 2010 01:50:00.520 --> 01:50:02.399 I called and talked to a kid and they gave 2011 01:50:02.399 --> 01:50:04.960 me the manager and I told the manager who I was, 2012 01:50:05.359 --> 01:50:07.439 and she sounds a little standoffish. 2013 01:50:07.880 --> 01:50:09.560 Well, yeah, well I don't. 2014 01:50:10.000 --> 01:50:11.279 Yeah, we're looking into this. 2015 01:50:11.479 --> 01:50:13.319 I will call you back. Okay. 2016 01:50:13.439 --> 01:50:15.960 So I called twice so I could kind of tell 2017 01:50:16.600 --> 01:50:19.279 in her voice that I think she kind of knew 2018 01:50:19.399 --> 01:50:20.600 that there was something. 2019 01:50:20.319 --> 01:50:23.199 Up about it. I bet you it wasn't the first 2020 01:50:23.199 --> 01:50:25.439 phone call she got about She should just take them 2021 01:50:25.439 --> 01:50:25.840 to court. 2022 01:50:25.960 --> 01:50:28.239 I can't figure out where I'm hearing an echo in 2023 01:50:28.279 --> 01:50:29.319 my studio. 2024 01:50:30.479 --> 01:50:32.600 But she could take them the small claims Mark, but 2025 01:50:32.640 --> 01:50:34.680 I think she needs some other evidence. She needs at 2026 01:50:34.760 --> 01:50:37.479 least a couple more people that say they had the 2027 01:50:37.520 --> 01:50:38.279 same problem. 2028 01:50:39.359 --> 01:50:41.119 And I don't think Heaven's got a comment. 2029 01:50:41.199 --> 01:50:46.079 Go ahead, Kevin, Yeah, you guys, Yeah, you guys had 2030 01:50:46.119 --> 01:50:48.880 mentioned something about a bigger nozzle on diesel. Well, if 2031 01:50:48.920 --> 01:50:51.640 you go to an in store, I'm sorry, an intown 2032 01:50:51.760 --> 01:50:55.760 gas station that does have diesel, it's the same size nozzle. 2033 01:50:56.279 --> 01:50:58.760 You'll find those bigger nozzles when you go to an 2034 01:50:58.760 --> 01:51:00.960 actual truck stop to get diesel. 2035 01:51:01.119 --> 01:51:02.600 Are you sure of that, Kevin? 2036 01:51:03.960 --> 01:51:07.600 The Franktown Market, which is about the smallest convenience store 2037 01:51:07.600 --> 01:51:10.479 I've ever seen, has the big green diesels I have 2038 01:51:10.600 --> 01:51:16.840 never but Mark that frank townsh Okay, Costco, Sam's Club 2039 01:51:16.960 --> 01:51:17.760 seven to eleven. 2040 01:51:20.159 --> 01:51:23.640 Do they have bigger nozzles? Every single one? 2041 01:51:23.720 --> 01:51:26.119 In fact, I would love anybody else to call in 2042 01:51:26.199 --> 01:51:27.600 and say they don't. 2043 01:51:27.800 --> 01:51:30.279 Okay, so Kevin is saying they don't. Now, Kevin, how 2044 01:51:30.319 --> 01:51:30.840 do you know? 2045 01:51:32.079 --> 01:51:35.239 I used to have a couple of diesel trucks. 2046 01:51:35.800 --> 01:51:38.640 And and why would some of them have it and 2047 01:51:38.680 --> 01:51:39.399 some of them not? 2048 01:51:40.680 --> 01:51:42.960 So? So if I go up to the gas station 2049 01:51:43.079 --> 01:51:45.920 down the street right now, it'll have a green handle 2050 01:51:45.960 --> 01:51:48.800 and it'll have the same sized nozzle coming out as 2051 01:51:48.840 --> 01:51:50.359 the gasoline. 2052 01:51:49.720 --> 01:51:53.520 Does one for unleaded fuel. 2053 01:51:55.479 --> 01:51:56.439 So good, someone. 2054 01:51:56.520 --> 01:52:03.119 Unleaded premium so diesel green handle or green green nozzle pump, 2055 01:52:04.039 --> 01:52:07.960 and it's got the same size nozzle as a regular gasoline. 2056 01:52:09.079 --> 01:52:11.239 Can you name one place we can go and check 2057 01:52:11.279 --> 01:52:11.640 that out? 2058 01:52:11.720 --> 01:52:12.600 I've never heard of it. 2059 01:52:14.079 --> 01:52:15.720 Do you want me to go check one out right now? 2060 01:52:15.720 --> 01:52:16.000 For it? 2061 01:52:16.039 --> 01:52:18.680 Which do me a favor if you could, that would 2062 01:52:18.720 --> 01:52:20.840 be excellent. I'd like to know that. 2063 01:52:22.399 --> 01:52:24.079 I'll give us a photo go down the street. 2064 01:52:24.560 --> 01:52:24.880 All right? 2065 01:52:24.960 --> 01:52:25.239 Cool? 2066 01:52:25.439 --> 01:52:28.880 Thank you? Hey, listen man, I'm not challenging you. I'm 2067 01:52:28.960 --> 01:52:32.159 asking you to see if that's possible, Kevin, So thank you. 2068 01:52:32.279 --> 01:52:35.840 I appreciate that. Three oh three seven one three talk 2069 01:52:35.960 --> 01:52:38.680 seven one three eight two five five got more coming 2070 01:52:38.760 --> 01:52:47.159 right up? Go with a sure thing Denver's best roofer 2071 01:52:47.279 --> 01:52:50.159 Excel Roofing dot com. You don't pay a cent until 2072 01:52:50.239 --> 01:52:56.680 you're content. Time for an insurance check up free, no obligation. 2073 01:52:56.720 --> 01:53:00.680 In comparison, call Compass Insurance. Pay too much coverage at 2074 01:53:00.720 --> 01:53:03.439 dozens of insurance companies find out now three all three 2075 01:53:03.640 --> 01:53:05.760 seven to seven to one help. You'll think you're his 2076 01:53:05.920 --> 01:53:08.479 only customer when you choose Frank durand the real estate 2077 01:53:08.600 --> 01:53:11.840 Man dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance 2078 01:53:12.039 --> 01:53:16.479 three all three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. All right, 2079 01:53:16.960 --> 01:53:20.520 I'm Tom Martine. You're a troubleshooter. I got a I 2080 01:53:20.560 --> 01:53:24.239 got some texts here. One guy says, I'm a fuel hauler, 2081 01:53:24.840 --> 01:53:29.000 and I know small town gas stations have the same 2082 01:53:29.119 --> 01:53:34.239 size nozzles. Truck stops have bigger nozzles for higher flows. 2083 01:53:34.760 --> 01:53:37.960 Every once in a while, one of us might make 2084 01:53:38.000 --> 01:53:41.479 a mistake and put the wrong fuel in the wrong tank. 2085 01:53:42.079 --> 01:53:46.279 Most of the time we catch it immediately. Sometimes nobody 2086 01:53:46.319 --> 01:53:49.720 notices now, so that is it's still possible she got 2087 01:53:49.720 --> 01:53:55.720 the wrong fuel it's also possible she fueled the wrong nozzle, 2088 01:53:55.840 --> 01:53:59.560 if in fact that's true. My texts are running fifty 2089 01:53:59.600 --> 01:54:02.640 to fifty on whether it's a larger nozzle or not. 2090 01:54:05.000 --> 01:54:09.560 Some are saying truck stops have larger nozzles, but regular 2091 01:54:09.680 --> 01:54:14.119 gasoline stations that don't accommodate trucks do not have a 2092 01:54:14.199 --> 01:54:17.239 larger nozzle. I can't tell you one way or another. 2093 01:54:17.279 --> 01:54:19.119 We have a guy going out to check a local 2094 01:54:19.159 --> 01:54:23.560 station to see. In any case, here's the deal. 2095 01:54:23.680 --> 01:54:25.760 I wonder whatever here I'm gonna call. I mean, you 2096 01:54:25.960 --> 01:54:28.520 choose so we can do this right. I put gas 2097 01:54:28.600 --> 01:54:33.880 stations near me. I have Conicco, Safeway fuel station, all 2098 01:54:33.920 --> 01:54:37.039 to convenience. Call any of them, layer, well, no, you no, 2099 01:54:37.159 --> 01:54:40.800 you pick one, pick one. I don't care who it is, Sinclair, 2100 01:54:40.960 --> 01:54:42.760 all to Safeway or knic Goo. 2101 01:54:42.840 --> 01:54:45.600 Which one Let's call Sinclair? Since this was a Sincli, 2102 01:54:45.640 --> 01:54:50.359 I'm calling Sinclair. Yeah, let's see three zero three seven 2103 01:54:50.479 --> 01:54:55.319 one three talks seven one three eight two five five Again. 2104 01:54:55.479 --> 01:54:59.640 Another one said I've never seen one with a regular 2105 01:54:59.720 --> 01:55:06.359 sign his nozzle. Hmm. Anyway, Barry Miller is with us 2106 01:55:06.439 --> 01:55:12.039 today from Vestra Turnkey. The webinars December seventh. It's ten 2107 01:55:12.079 --> 01:55:15.199 in the morning. That's a Saturday. You register at my 2108 01:55:15.279 --> 01:55:18.399 biggest return dot com. Now you can call Barry. I'm 2109 01:55:18.399 --> 01:55:21.199 gonna give out his number before he leaves here for sure. 2110 01:55:21.600 --> 01:55:24.399 It's it's three oh three eight eight eight thirty seven 2111 01:55:24.520 --> 01:55:25.159 eighty eight. 2112 01:55:25.319 --> 01:55:29.399 That's so my daughter couldn't mess up and accidentally put 2113 01:55:29.760 --> 01:55:32.399 the uh, the diesel in there because it won't take 2114 01:55:32.560 --> 01:55:33.119 your station. 2115 01:55:33.319 --> 01:55:36.159 Is that correct? He's talking to a gas station. No, 2116 01:55:37.640 --> 01:55:44.520 it wouldn't fit so well to see what do you 2117 01:55:44.680 --> 01:55:49.079 what he finds out there? Three O three seven one 2118 01:55:49.159 --> 01:55:52.720 three talk seven one three eight two five five. But 2119 01:55:52.800 --> 01:55:55.439 of course somebody says if the wrong feels put in 2120 01:55:55.520 --> 01:55:59.840 the wrong tank, receipt won't tell you anything. No. 2121 01:56:00.119 --> 01:56:03.359 Well, the Sinclair, the one you told me to call, 2122 01:56:03.439 --> 01:56:06.479 says the diesel will not go period, will not go 2123 01:56:06.520 --> 01:56:09.720 into the smaller gasoline when it's bigger. I can call 2124 01:56:09.880 --> 01:56:12.239 fifty more if you want to choose them. 2125 01:56:12.479 --> 01:56:14.960 Mark, I'm just going by what I'm being told here. 2126 01:56:15.000 --> 01:56:15.279 I'm not. 2127 01:56:15.439 --> 01:56:19.199 I know, I've never been. Just my entire life has 2128 01:56:19.199 --> 01:56:22.199 been opposite. I never see diesel trucks, and I've owned 2129 01:56:22.399 --> 01:56:25.640 a ton of gas vehicles and I've never not seen it. 2130 01:56:26.000 --> 01:56:28.840 I've never not seen it. I've never seen a regular 2131 01:56:29.279 --> 01:56:34.079 nozzle for a diesel fuel. Now, somebody says the receipt 2132 01:56:34.119 --> 01:56:36.319 won't tell a story. Yes it will. It will tell 2133 01:56:36.399 --> 01:56:39.479 us which tank she took it from, not if there 2134 01:56:39.520 --> 01:56:42.039 was the wrong fuel in it. Because if she has 2135 01:56:42.079 --> 01:56:45.000 a receipt for that day in that time that shows 2136 01:56:45.319 --> 01:56:48.640 she was being charged for unleaded gasoline, then we know 2137 01:56:48.840 --> 01:56:52.119 she did not make the mistake. It was most likely 2138 01:56:52.239 --> 01:56:55.439 in the tank, That's what I'm saying. And it shows 2139 01:56:55.479 --> 01:56:59.640 that she was getting being charged for diesel, then maybe 2140 01:56:59.680 --> 01:57:02.760 she had the wrong one in there. Yes, what Tom, 2141 01:57:03.239 --> 01:57:03.880 I asked? 2142 01:57:04.079 --> 01:57:07.439 Yeah, the Sinclair station would not give her a receipt. 2143 01:57:07.439 --> 01:57:10.720 But I instructed the caller to get a hold of 2144 01:57:10.720 --> 01:57:13.880 her credit card company and he will demand this station 2145 01:57:14.079 --> 01:57:15.000 find the receipt. 2146 01:57:15.439 --> 01:57:18.920 Kevin is calling, Kevin is calling us. Kevin, go ahead. 2147 01:57:18.960 --> 01:57:21.279 He went out to check, Kevin, what did you find? 2148 01:57:23.000 --> 01:57:25.840 Well, I went to the nearest Shell station and they 2149 01:57:25.880 --> 01:57:31.159 had gas and diesel on the same pretty much unit. 2150 01:57:32.399 --> 01:57:37.039 Diesel big green handle, regular gas, a black handle, and 2151 01:57:37.319 --> 01:57:40.560 the nozzle might be a fraction of an inch bigger 2152 01:57:40.600 --> 01:57:41.239 than the gas. 2153 01:57:41.239 --> 01:57:43.439 A lad well that's what we were taking. Yeah, yeah, 2154 01:57:43.520 --> 01:57:47.920 so won't it won't fit. I mean you could have, 2155 01:57:48.079 --> 01:57:50.119 you could have tried it. It won't fit in an 2156 01:57:50.199 --> 01:57:52.079 unleaded tank, is what we're being told. 2157 01:57:53.920 --> 01:57:55.319 That's that's not the case. 2158 01:57:55.960 --> 01:57:57.520 What do you mean that's not the case. You just 2159 01:57:57.560 --> 01:57:58.560 told us. It's bigger. 2160 01:58:00.119 --> 01:58:02.600 It's a fraction of an inch bigger. It's not like 2161 01:58:02.680 --> 01:58:04.720 you see when you go to a truck stop. 2162 01:58:05.119 --> 01:58:08.439 Okay, still not fill them. It might be, but it's 2163 01:58:08.479 --> 01:58:09.319 still big enough. 2164 01:58:09.560 --> 01:58:13.000 Did you literally try. I would like to see a postener. 2165 01:58:13.039 --> 01:58:15.079 I understand what you're saying. If I go to a 2166 01:58:15.119 --> 01:58:18.800 truck stop, my RV takes two hundred gallons, so when 2167 01:58:18.800 --> 01:58:21.279 I go, I fill up on both sides at the 2168 01:58:21.319 --> 01:58:26.119 same time. Those are actually bigger than the green handles 2169 01:58:26.199 --> 01:58:29.239 at smaller gas stations. But the one at smaller gas 2170 01:58:29.319 --> 01:58:32.640 stations still will not run into the hole. 2171 01:58:32.880 --> 01:58:37.439 Exactly. That's what I'm getting at. And not to create 2172 01:58:37.479 --> 01:58:41.039 an argument here, sir, but did you try Kevin to 2173 01:58:41.199 --> 01:58:45.199 put that green diesel one into your unleaded tank. He's 2174 01:58:45.199 --> 01:58:47.680 got a diesel Oh, he's got a deal, sir. 2175 01:58:47.880 --> 01:58:53.119 No, No, I have a gasser now, okay, I don't 2176 01:58:53.119 --> 01:58:54.279 have a diesel now. 2177 01:58:54.600 --> 01:58:57.319 And you while you were there, why didn't you try 2178 01:58:57.399 --> 01:59:00.079 putting it in there just to see? 2179 01:59:00.199 --> 01:59:03.520 Well, I just took pictures of both nozzles, and they're 2180 01:59:03.600 --> 01:59:05.960 like I said, the diesel is just a fraction. 2181 01:59:06.319 --> 01:59:10.439 Of a just enough bigger, just enough bigger not to 2182 01:59:10.520 --> 01:59:11.800 go into your unletted tank. 2183 01:59:13.840 --> 01:59:14.800 I did not try it. 2184 01:59:14.880 --> 01:59:17.399 I shall okay, that's okay, that but thank you for 2185 01:59:17.560 --> 01:59:21.840 running down there. And again, people, if you're out and about, 2186 01:59:22.119 --> 01:59:27.800 let us know. I've never seen ever, I've never seen 2187 01:59:27.880 --> 01:59:33.199 ever one that does not or excuse me, that fits. 2188 01:59:33.880 --> 01:59:38.079 I don't think they fit. So anyway, if you get 2189 01:59:38.119 --> 01:59:40.159 a chance and you're out and about, give us a call. 2190 01:59:40.560 --> 01:59:43.760 Three oh three seven one three talk seven one three 2191 01:59:43.960 --> 01:59:48.319 eight two five five. All right, Barry, we have a 2192 01:59:48.399 --> 01:59:53.119 question for you on this on the webinar. The webinar, uh, 2193 01:59:53.840 --> 01:59:57.199 do you take two way calls so people ask questions? 2194 01:59:57.359 --> 01:59:59.920 Well, the webinar is forty five minutes, so we've gon 2195 02:00:00.520 --> 02:00:02.880 you don't take questions afterwards? 2196 02:00:02.920 --> 02:00:03.239 We do. 2197 02:00:03.520 --> 02:00:07.760 We take calls, emails and texts afterwards for hours. 2198 02:00:07.840 --> 02:00:10.119 All right, By the way, we have a tanker driver, 2199 02:00:10.319 --> 02:00:13.479 he says, Jesse, what can you tell us, sir. 2200 02:00:15.920 --> 02:00:18.159 Okay, yes, hi Tom, thanks for digging a call. 2201 02:00:18.600 --> 02:00:21.520 Yes, so I am on. 2202 02:00:22.520 --> 02:00:26.680 At first, I was a against Mark because I am 2203 02:00:26.680 --> 02:00:29.560 a tanker driver of twenty five hundred gallons up to 2204 02:00:29.640 --> 02:00:32.359 six thousand gallons, and a lot of times I fill 2205 02:00:32.479 --> 02:00:35.880 up at the stations that don't have truck driver fuel, 2206 02:00:36.479 --> 02:00:40.680 and the novels do appear to be the same size. However, 2207 02:00:41.159 --> 02:00:43.720 I just drove my car to a station that has 2208 02:00:43.840 --> 02:00:47.640 diesel right next to unleaded, tried to put the nozzle 2209 02:00:47.720 --> 02:00:50.199 into my unleaded tank and it wouldn't fit. 2210 02:00:51.039 --> 02:00:54.680 Uh huh, So it's just a hair bigger enough not 2211 02:00:54.800 --> 02:00:55.199 to fit. 2212 02:00:56.279 --> 02:00:58.840 Honestly, I thought that it was the same size too, 2213 02:00:58.920 --> 02:01:02.039 without actually trying in my own car, because they do 2214 02:01:02.119 --> 02:01:04.560 look about the same size. But I'm going to go 2215 02:01:04.600 --> 02:01:06.159 to another station right now. 2216 02:01:06.760 --> 02:01:10.319 Right cool? Thank you? Justsin Yeah, that's what we thought. 2217 02:01:10.760 --> 02:01:14.680 You're right, and Mark, I think he made a distinction 2218 02:01:14.880 --> 02:01:17.039 for the guy that wrote to us saying no, no, no, 2219 02:01:17.079 --> 02:01:20.279 they're for high volume, as Mark pointed out. 2220 02:01:20.319 --> 02:01:22.880 And I remember, the whole thing is absurd. I've been 2221 02:01:22.920 --> 02:01:24.560 to a thousand gas stations. 2222 02:01:24.560 --> 02:01:28.079 No, no, I understand, I understand. As Market pointed out, 2223 02:01:28.439 --> 02:01:31.680 and I experienced with my RV back in the day. 2224 02:01:32.279 --> 02:01:35.920 They do have high flow pumps that have giant nozzles 2225 02:01:36.159 --> 02:01:40.640 for them to have. Then they have regular diesel nozzles, 2226 02:01:40.680 --> 02:01:44.880 but the regular diesel nozzles are still too big to 2227 02:01:44.960 --> 02:01:47.720 fit in a gasoline tank. Go with a sure thing 2228 02:01:47.840 --> 02:01:51.159 Denver's best roofer Excel Roofing dot com. You don't pay 2229 02:01:51.159 --> 02:01:57.479 a cent until you're content. Time for an insurance checkup 2230 02:01:57.560 --> 02:02:01.359 free no obligation. In comparison, call come insurance paying too 2231 02:02:01.439 --> 02:02:04.479 much your coverage at dozens of insurance companies find out 2232 02:02:04.520 --> 02:02:06.640 now three all three seven to seven to one help. 2233 02:02:06.800 --> 02:02:09.439 You'll think you're his only customer when you choose Frank 2234 02:02:09.520 --> 02:02:11.960 durand the real estate Man dot com to list your 2235 02:02:12.000 --> 02:02:15.119 home with Remax Alliance three all three nine two zero 2236 02:02:15.279 --> 02:02:20.439 sixteen twenty two. That's the best comment. I'm Tom Martine. 2237 02:02:21.079 --> 02:02:24.640 My god, I've never had more people texting me in 2238 02:02:24.680 --> 02:02:28.520 the last few days. If the nozzle doesn't fit, you 2239 02:02:28.600 --> 02:02:32.159 must must to quit. Now here's the deal. The woman 2240 02:02:32.239 --> 02:02:36.840 filled up with red diesel she claims she put in Now, 2241 02:02:36.960 --> 02:02:40.239 obviously people do make mistakes and tanks. I think that's 2242 02:02:40.239 --> 02:02:42.640 what happened to her. I think she really did use 2243 02:02:42.680 --> 02:02:46.239 the unleaded pump and it did deliver diesel. I do 2244 02:02:46.319 --> 02:02:48.720 believe that happened. But then it got to a general 2245 02:02:48.760 --> 02:02:53.439 discussion on when you use a diesel. If she wanted 2246 02:02:53.479 --> 02:02:56.399 to do it by mistake, if she lifted the diesel 2247 02:02:56.479 --> 02:02:59.920 by mistake the nozzle, would it fit in her unleaded car. 2248 02:03:00.920 --> 02:03:05.920 Almost everyone says it absolutely will not fit in an 2249 02:03:06.039 --> 02:03:09.720 unleaded tank. But we've had two people so far say 2250 02:03:10.279 --> 02:03:12.640 that they went to a station and they're the same 2251 02:03:12.680 --> 02:03:15.399 exact size and they will fit. One guy went so 2252 02:03:15.520 --> 02:03:17.880 far as to say he went to a Maverick and 2253 02:03:17.960 --> 02:03:21.520 the same fuel comes out of the same nozzle. Whether 2254 02:03:21.600 --> 02:03:24.239 you get unleaded E eighty five. 2255 02:03:24.439 --> 02:03:27.479 Or diesel, it comes out of or three kinds of gasoline. 2256 02:03:28.000 --> 02:03:29.800 No, I am never got a suggestion. 2257 02:03:30.439 --> 02:03:35.239 And wait, wait, wait, that same moron also at first 2258 02:03:35.319 --> 02:03:37.960 said there was a green handle, and then he said 2259 02:03:38.000 --> 02:03:40.600 they were all the same. So we're to believe you 2260 02:03:40.640 --> 02:03:43.600 can go to this Maverick station and fill up with 2261 02:03:43.720 --> 02:03:48.239 three kinds of unleaded E eighty five or diesel, all 2262 02:03:48.319 --> 02:03:52.439 from the exact same hose and nozzle to any vehicle 2263 02:03:52.479 --> 02:03:55.119 you put in there. That is the dumbest thing I've 2264 02:03:55.199 --> 02:03:55.720 ever heard. 2265 02:03:56.239 --> 02:03:58.520 Yes, I have a perfect suggestion. 2266 02:03:59.119 --> 02:04:04.560 Yeah, us call this inspector that we sent up to 2267 02:04:04.600 --> 02:04:08.039 this Sinclair station tomorrow the next day, have him come 2268 02:04:08.079 --> 02:04:10.520 on the air, since he's an authority at the State 2269 02:04:10.560 --> 02:04:12.800 of Colorado, and have him explain it to us. 2270 02:04:13.079 --> 02:04:15.159 But we'll still have people tell us, well, that's not 2271 02:04:15.239 --> 02:04:20.439 what I saw. I guarantee you they're wrong. They lie. 2272 02:04:20.560 --> 02:04:24.680 They're not wrong, they literally lie. Andrew, what's your Andrew? 2273 02:04:24.720 --> 02:04:26.479 What is your thing? Go ahead, Andrew. 2274 02:04:28.359 --> 02:04:31.119 Yeah, I came in in the middle of this, but 2275 02:04:32.159 --> 02:04:34.920 the only thought that occurred to me is that it 2276 02:04:35.039 --> 02:04:37.359 depends on the age of your vehicle. I think these 2277 02:04:37.439 --> 02:04:42.920 older vehicles, the newer vehicles. Yeah, you you can't put 2278 02:04:42.960 --> 02:04:46.279 a diesel into it, But if you have an older vehicle, 2279 02:04:46.479 --> 02:04:49.560 I think the where you put you know what. 2280 02:04:49.920 --> 02:04:52.880 Actually, he's right, he's right. Those older vehicles did not 2281 02:04:53.000 --> 02:04:55.560 have a choke down. He's right about that. I mean 2282 02:04:55.600 --> 02:04:56.720 I remember I had an old. 2283 02:04:56.760 --> 02:04:59.520 Yeah, but her but her car was a twenty thirteen. 2284 02:04:59.560 --> 02:05:02.319 When he's his older vehicles, I mean you're going back 2285 02:05:02.319 --> 02:05:03.479 to like the seventies. 2286 02:05:05.560 --> 02:05:07.960 No, no, I don't know how old. But he's right, 2287 02:05:08.760 --> 02:05:11.640 maybe when they started making unleaded fuel man, And I 2288 02:05:11.680 --> 02:05:13.880 was going to say probably back when they had regular 2289 02:05:14.960 --> 02:05:18.039 But that's a good observation though, I appreciate that. Robert. 2290 02:05:18.039 --> 02:05:19.960 What's your what's your take on this? Robert? 2291 02:05:20.039 --> 02:05:24.119 Go ahead, So so I kind of working in the street. 2292 02:05:24.159 --> 02:05:29.399 So anyways, red diesel is strictly for like heavy equipment, right, 2293 02:05:29.520 --> 02:05:32.640 and we know that anything anything that's off road. So 2294 02:05:32.800 --> 02:05:35.840 if there was so, so, gas stations cannot sell red 2295 02:05:35.880 --> 02:05:39.119 diesel because it's not legal for the streets or the highways. 2296 02:05:39.239 --> 02:05:39.760 No, they can. 2297 02:05:39.880 --> 02:05:42.000 They can sell it, but they can only sell it 2298 02:05:42.119 --> 02:05:43.840 or well they can sell it to anybody. 2299 02:05:43.920 --> 02:05:45.920 If you choose to fill up with it and get 2300 02:05:45.960 --> 02:05:50.079 caught in a farming community, you face massive Roberts. Are 2301 02:05:50.119 --> 02:05:53.680 you saying, Robert, that red diesel is not available at 2302 02:05:53.760 --> 02:05:54.479 gas stations? 2303 02:05:55.039 --> 02:05:55.760 It shouldn't be. 2304 02:05:56.159 --> 02:06:00.560 Well, it is, it was part of it. 2305 02:06:00.560 --> 02:06:03.640 It is in any rural area, in any state, of course, 2306 02:06:03.640 --> 02:06:06.000 it is. How do you think tractors and combines, how 2307 02:06:06.000 --> 02:06:06.640 do you think. 2308 02:06:06.439 --> 02:06:07.119 They fill up. 2309 02:06:08.880 --> 02:06:12.520 I'm talking about Yeah, that's correct, that's you're You're absolutely correct. 2310 02:06:12.560 --> 02:06:14.960 In Denver, you're not going to find it, agreed. 2311 02:06:15.640 --> 02:06:18.119 Yes, So this is what I didn't thought, I haven't 2312 02:06:18.159 --> 02:06:19.039 cut anything. 2313 02:06:18.760 --> 02:06:19.439 But you. 2314 02:06:21.119 --> 02:06:23.680 Had the whole you you really He's right though he 2315 02:06:23.760 --> 02:06:26.399 missed the red diesel part of this last week. 2316 02:06:26.880 --> 02:06:30.560 Yeah, you're right though it is not made for street vehicles. 2317 02:06:31.079 --> 02:06:32.199 And where is the station? 2318 02:06:32.439 --> 02:06:32.640 Tom? 2319 02:06:32.720 --> 02:06:35.600 I forget, it's definitely rule. Yeah, I gotta find it. 2320 02:06:35.680 --> 02:06:40.239 I forget what city, but it's Farmland. Glenn, let's take yours. 2321 02:06:40.279 --> 02:06:42.039 Go ahead, Glenn, what's going on? 2322 02:06:43.119 --> 02:06:45.640 Hey, when they started talking about it being the off 2323 02:06:45.720 --> 02:06:49.319 road diesel, there is a reasonably good chance that that 2324 02:06:49.399 --> 02:06:52.159 could have one of those smaller nozzles on either kerosene 2325 02:06:52.359 --> 02:06:57.479 or die diesel. Dye diesel not not taxed for the highway, 2326 02:06:57.800 --> 02:07:00.079 and it's cheaper, and it's a little different situation, and 2327 02:07:00.239 --> 02:07:02.680 it's not intended for vehicles they're going down the road. 2328 02:07:03.000 --> 02:07:03.359 That's for you. 2329 02:07:04.439 --> 02:07:08.079 Are you saying the diesel? You're saying the red diesel 2330 02:07:08.199 --> 02:07:12.800 could possibly have a regular size nozzle, the red part. 2331 02:07:13.640 --> 02:07:16.239 Well, hold on, hold on, let me, Glenn, Glenn, let 2332 02:07:16.319 --> 02:07:18.760 me let me shede a little light on what you're saying. 2333 02:07:19.159 --> 02:07:22.880 At this particular gas station, we've only we've already done 2334 02:07:22.880 --> 02:07:26.119 the research. You can get the red diesel at the 2335 02:07:26.239 --> 02:07:30.600 same pump. It's got a separate nozzle along with the diesel, 2336 02:07:30.680 --> 02:07:34.359 but you can choose red diesel instead of the green diesel, 2337 02:07:34.520 --> 02:07:36.800 or of course, go to the black nozzle and go 2338 02:07:36.880 --> 02:07:37.840 to the gasoline. 2339 02:07:39.960 --> 02:07:42.600 Wow, that's interesting because you never I mean, if they 2340 02:07:42.640 --> 02:07:45.560 catch a trace a die in your tank and your 2341 02:07:46.479 --> 02:07:49.359 motor carryo. Yeah, they'll they will pull your truck off 2342 02:07:49.359 --> 02:07:51.159 the freeway and impound it. 2343 02:07:51.560 --> 02:07:53.159 Yeah, you'll wish you never did it. 2344 02:07:54.079 --> 02:07:55.720 Oh yeah, And you can't get rid of that stuff. 2345 02:07:55.720 --> 02:07:55.880 Man. 2346 02:07:55.920 --> 02:07:58.479 That di will lasts for a couple of hundred gallons even. 2347 02:07:58.319 --> 02:08:00.720 A little bit, oh, even after you're out. 2348 02:08:01.880 --> 02:08:04.359 Oh yeah, yeah, if you put a substantial bit in it, 2349 02:08:04.520 --> 02:08:07.319 I mean a gallon's probably enough to turn a forty 2350 02:08:07.359 --> 02:08:08.159 gallon tank red. 2351 02:08:08.920 --> 02:08:11.520 All right, thank you very much. Three O three seven 2352 02:08:11.600 --> 02:08:14.720 one three talk seven one three eight two five five more. 2353 02:08:14.800 --> 02:08:17.800 Right after this, go with a sure thing Denver's best 2354 02:08:17.880 --> 02:08:20.760 roofer Excel roofing dot com. You don't pay a cent 2355 02:08:20.960 --> 02:08:27.159 until you're content. Time for an insurance checkup, free no 2356 02:08:27.239 --> 02:08:31.600 obligation comparison call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage 2357 02:08:31.640 --> 02:08:34.319 at dozens of insurance companies find out now three oh 2358 02:08:34.359 --> 02:08:36.840 three seven seven to one help. You'll think you're his 2359 02:08:36.960 --> 02:08:39.600 only customer when you choose Frank durand the real estate 2360 02:08:39.640 --> 02:08:42.920 man dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance 2361 02:08:43.119 --> 02:08:47.000 three oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two takes 2362 02:08:47.079 --> 02:08:50.600 more calls. But I want to remind you that Vestera 2363 02:08:50.680 --> 02:08:52.920 turnkey to teach you how to be a landlord without 2364 02:08:52.920 --> 02:08:57.800 the conventional hassles and with tremendous profits. You go to 2365 02:08:57.880 --> 02:09:00.079 sign up for the webinar, which is the seventh, you 2366 02:09:00.119 --> 02:09:02.079 can always call Barry directly. I'll give out both the 2367 02:09:02.119 --> 02:09:05.479 website for the webinar and the number the websites my 2368 02:09:05.600 --> 02:09:10.840 Biggest Return dot com, my Biggest Return dot Com. And 2369 02:09:10.880 --> 02:09:12.600 then if you want to talk to Barry three zero 2370 02:09:12.600 --> 02:09:16.560 three eight eight eight thirty seven eighty eight eight eight 2371 02:09:16.640 --> 02:09:20.199 eight thirty seven eighty eight. And by the way, I'm 2372 02:09:20.199 --> 02:09:22.720 gonna go to the calls now, because this diesel thing 2373 02:09:22.800 --> 02:09:25.479 is lit up a nerve here and I think the 2374 02:09:25.600 --> 02:09:29.399 general consensus is they're not the same size, period. I mean, 2375 02:09:29.720 --> 02:09:32.359 there are people getting very emotional about us, saying that 2376 02:09:32.359 --> 02:09:35.079 the guy's an idiot and maybe he should try to 2377 02:09:35.199 --> 02:09:38.840 see where else it fits. We won't go into that anyway, Ken, 2378 02:09:39.560 --> 02:09:41.600 what did your com What was your comment? Ken? 2379 02:09:42.600 --> 02:09:46.000 Well, first off, I'm a longtime listener and we have 2380 02:09:46.039 --> 02:09:50.640 a mutual friend Anthony from Staten Island. 2381 02:09:51.439 --> 02:09:56.720 Antony. Yeah, I know Antony. Yeah, not Anthony. It's any right, 2382 02:09:57.119 --> 02:09:57.720 of course I do. 2383 02:09:58.720 --> 02:09:59.800 His name is Anthony. 2384 02:10:01.319 --> 02:10:07.479 Yes, absolutely, he moved back to New York. Oh he did. Okay, 2385 02:10:07.680 --> 02:10:09.039 tell him to call the show one. 2386 02:10:09.000 --> 02:10:10.920 Day, you know, I will. 2387 02:10:11.000 --> 02:10:12.479 I talked to him about once a year. 2388 02:10:12.680 --> 02:10:16.119 So tell any to call a show. That's what Italians 2389 02:10:16.159 --> 02:10:20.840 called Anthony Anthony and yeah he's Anthony. Yeah, So go ahead. 2390 02:10:20.880 --> 02:10:22.760 What's happened? What do you think about the diesel man? 2391 02:10:23.680 --> 02:10:26.279 Well, I got a buddy that had me come by 2392 02:10:26.319 --> 02:10:30.840 his house and pick up ten gallons of diesel that 2393 02:10:30.960 --> 02:10:34.039 his kid had accidentally put in their audie. Yeah, he 2394 02:10:34.079 --> 02:10:35.520 had to take it to his shop and have. 2395 02:10:35.520 --> 02:10:36.239 It drained out. 2396 02:10:36.800 --> 02:10:37.279 Yeah. 2397 02:10:37.319 --> 02:10:40.680 And my next comment is call your car guys on 2398 02:10:41.079 --> 02:10:43.840 they're on on Friday. Let's tell you how many times 2399 02:10:44.279 --> 02:10:48.279 they've had to pump out the diesel out of gas cars. 2400 02:10:48.680 --> 02:10:51.960 But that's because of the mistake they made by filling 2401 02:10:52.000 --> 02:10:55.640 the tank, right, that's not that's not the noble put it. 2402 02:10:55.520 --> 02:10:56.319 In the well. 2403 02:10:56.359 --> 02:10:58.640 But you got to put it in the hole to 2404 02:10:58.680 --> 02:10:59.640 get it in the tape. 2405 02:11:00.319 --> 02:11:04.920 No, no, what if Ken? But Ken, it's possible that 2406 02:11:04.920 --> 02:11:07.399 the guy delivering the fuel put it in the wrong tank, 2407 02:11:07.520 --> 02:11:08.039 is what I mean. 2408 02:11:08.399 --> 02:11:11.039 Or it didn't fit in the stupid kid just pulled 2409 02:11:11.079 --> 02:11:11.600 the handle. 2410 02:11:12.720 --> 02:11:15.800 I think what happened most of the time. I think 2411 02:11:15.840 --> 02:11:19.079 if you put the wrong fuel in because the nozzles 2412 02:11:19.119 --> 02:11:22.319 are different sizes, I think it's because the gas station 2413 02:11:22.520 --> 02:11:26.479 has the wrong fuel in their unleaded tank. Anyway, Ken, 2414 02:11:26.520 --> 02:11:29.039 thanks for calling. Say hi to Antony. Mike, go ahead, 2415 02:11:29.079 --> 02:11:29.920 what is your comment? 2416 02:11:30.000 --> 02:11:30.239 Mike? 2417 02:11:31.359 --> 02:11:34.479 Hey, Yeah, two things I used to hold. I used 2418 02:11:34.479 --> 02:11:37.439 to haul gasoline for a living, okay. And yeah, no 2419 02:11:37.560 --> 02:11:41.439 way that you can cross cross dump red red diesel 2420 02:11:41.600 --> 02:11:42.439 off road diesel. 2421 02:11:42.960 --> 02:11:43.319 Okay. 2422 02:11:43.640 --> 02:11:45.720 There's just too many checks you gotta go to when 2423 02:11:45.760 --> 02:11:48.800 you're when you're delivering into a gas station. 2424 02:11:48.960 --> 02:11:52.520 Wait wait, wait, are you saying it's unlikely that there 2425 02:11:52.640 --> 02:11:54.960 was red diesel in the unleaded tank. 2426 02:11:56.640 --> 02:12:01.800 I'd say its virtually impossible. Why it's two different trucks 2427 02:12:01.880 --> 02:12:07.600 when you're hauling gasoline or diesel or off road diesel. Right, Typically, 2428 02:12:07.640 --> 02:12:10.199 if you're delivering gasoline, you might have three different grades, 2429 02:12:10.239 --> 02:12:13.359 and you're filling up you know, three different tanks. Okay, 2430 02:12:13.600 --> 02:12:17.119 If you're diesel, that's all your hauling, pure and simple. 2431 02:12:17.159 --> 02:12:20.079 All four or five of your compartments will have diesel. 2432 02:12:20.239 --> 02:12:23.640 If it's off road diesel, it's a completely different truck. 2433 02:12:23.680 --> 02:12:26.359 We're not even allowed to like unload a regular load 2434 02:12:26.359 --> 02:12:28.479 of diesel and then go fill up with off road diesel. 2435 02:12:28.640 --> 02:12:30.079 It's a completely different truck. 2436 02:12:30.560 --> 02:12:32.800 Well, Mike, that still doesn't tell me you couldn't go 2437 02:12:32.800 --> 02:12:34.920 in the wrong tank though. On the ground. We're out 2438 02:12:34.920 --> 02:12:38.560 of time. Call back tomorrow. I'm Tom Martine. Don't forget 2439 02:12:38.920 --> 02:12:41.640 my biggest return dot com and save all your problems 2440 02:12:41.640 --> 02:12:41.880 for me.