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Speaker 3: Come Man Dix is the Troubleshooter Show.
Speaker 4: No Tom Martine, Hi Tom Martino here kicking off election eve.
Speaker 4: I know you don't want to hear about it. In fact,
Speaker 4: the United States doesn't want to hear about it. According
Speaker 4: to surveys, they have election fatigue. We don't. We're talking
Speaker 4: about your life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, and money, money, money,
Speaker 4: and we have, as you'll see in our wide shot
Speaker 4: if your streaming the show or downloading it later, we
Speaker 4: have Barry Miller. I call him a steemed real estate broker.
Speaker 4: And the reason I say that Barry is I'm how
Speaker 4: many years ago? I'm trying to I always say thirty
Speaker 4: or so? How many years it was more than that?
Speaker 4: It's what year did you start that? About?
Speaker 5: Four years?
Speaker 4: Oh my god?
Speaker 5: Okay, so we're talking like fifty.
Speaker 4: So you and I got together, Well, you did it,
Speaker 4: and I covered you. I think I gave you the first,
Speaker 4: the first coverage ever on buyer brokers. He invented it,
Speaker 4: I mean he did, he developed it and nurtured it
Speaker 4: and it was so cool. And what he did was
Speaker 4: he decided to do buyer brokers. He says, you know what,
Speaker 4: everyone is representing the seller, and that's true. You'd call
Speaker 4: on a sign or you may even call a broker
Speaker 4: and say I want to buy a house. And back
Speaker 4: in the day before Barry, they would show you houses,
Speaker 4: but they legally and technically raw.
Speaker 6: All fifty states time and the real estate schools taught
Speaker 6: it everywhere across the country.
Speaker 5: Okay, taught taught it everywhere.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you resent the seller, so remember your fiduciary duty
Speaker 6: is with the seller, and legally that's how it was
Speaker 6: structured until we change that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so what you did, and there was nothing wrong
Speaker 4: with that as long as you knew it. Now I'm
Speaker 4: going to go back to you. And so he invented
Speaker 4: the buyer broker or developed it. There were a couple
Speaker 4: of people trying it, but he formalized it, made an
Speaker 4: association and made it nationwide legal. In fact, states adopted it,
Speaker 4: and we have contracts now for that. And it's really cool.
Speaker 4: So then he went on to other things as he
Speaker 4: got older. He's an old far like me and didn't
Speaker 4: want to retire. We like being productive.
Speaker 5: For a long time.
Speaker 4: Of course, that's why a seventy one I started my
Speaker 4: Wave eight wealth management. I want people to make money,
Speaker 4: and I'm you know what I'm tired of at this age.
Speaker 4: It's no longer about just patting your pockets, although it
Speaker 4: never was with me. It was about love and compassion
Speaker 4: and spreading the wealth. But really though, at my age,
Speaker 4: I want to just tell people where it's at. I mean,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, you just want to expose
Speaker 4: crap like don't do this, don't do that, do this,
Speaker 4: do that. And that's why when it comes to election
Speaker 4: and stuff, I don't want to necessarily tell people about
Speaker 4: the people. I want to tell people about issues, issues
Speaker 4: that affect their lives and their pocketbooks. And that's why
Speaker 4: you don't hear me a lot pushing things. But Mark Major,
Speaker 4: Mark Major, who is of course a part of this
Speaker 4: show for many, many years, he has a different opinion.
Speaker 4: He believes I'm Mark you there, bro of course okay,
Speaker 4: And his video is not up of your streaming. I
Speaker 4: did that as a service to the public because he
Speaker 4: was out working on his tractor. And anyway, Mark election
Speaker 4: need just real quick and people listen. We can't ignore
Speaker 4: what's going on. And again, I'm not telling you what
Speaker 4: to do. I'm telling you to look at issues.
Speaker 7: But Mark, go ahead, but you've already told everybody who
Speaker 7: you voted for, which is Trump? And I appreciate you
Speaker 7: doing that as someone that's been in the Denver metro
Speaker 7: in Colorado area for over forty five years.
Speaker 4: But just to say I didn't say because I did,
Speaker 4: you should too. I mean, and again, no.
Speaker 7: I didn't say you did. I'm just simply pointing out
Speaker 7: who you voted for.
Speaker 4: That's all. Go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 7: Well, I think tomorrow's really important. If you don't get
Speaker 7: out and vote, it's not a good thing whatsoever. But
Speaker 7: I am pretty sure Trump is gonna win. I love
Speaker 7: how they mess with the polls in the last few days,
Speaker 7: especially these left leaning polsters. They had one come out
Speaker 7: of Iowa saying that she was three points up. No way, Jose,
Speaker 7: is that ever gonna happen?
Speaker 4: Ever?
Speaker 7: Ever, it's gonna be like twenty sixteen, twenty twenty. These
Speaker 7: pollsters get it all wrong when it comes to the Trumpers.
Speaker 4: We don't want to talk to them.
Speaker 7: Why the hell would I want to talk to some
Speaker 7: lefty freaking polster somewhere we just simply don't talk to him.
Speaker 4: And that's going to show tomorrow in the final numbers.
Speaker 4: And by the way, I'm in a election news, true news,
Speaker 4: that's exactly what the news is reporting, and both sides
Speaker 4: of the news. When I say both sides, it's too
Speaker 4: bad we even have to say that. I swear to God.
Speaker 7: Well, you know you're right, though, tom Half of them
Speaker 7: are a complete fake news, absolutely utterly fake news.
Speaker 4: Did you hear?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 4: I hate I want to say that half of the
Speaker 4: registered voters who take part in polls, half say they
Speaker 4: lie or avoid.
Speaker 7: Well, that's amazing. I just avoid for sure. I don't
Speaker 7: know about lying. But why would you spend fifteen minutes
Speaker 7: doing a poll and lie? You simply go, I'm not
Speaker 7: interested in you hang up on.
Speaker 4: They said forty eight percent said they previously lied to
Speaker 4: those whom they chose as a candidate, more than double
Speaker 4: the twenty three percent of previous times. People are lying.
Speaker 7: What I don't like about polls in the final news.
Speaker 7: By the way, you see that SNL boy, did they
Speaker 7: screw up on that deal?
Speaker 4: They didn't invite Trump.
Speaker 7: They ended up giving them a ninety second commercial during
Speaker 7: something yesterday, I think during the NFL game. Yeah, well,
Speaker 7: how the hell did they do that? They did it
Speaker 7: on purpose or lion cheating bastards. I mean, I'll put
Speaker 7: it exactly what they are this current administration, Harris and Biden.
Speaker 4: They're so in with the media. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 7: If you don't believe me, well, actually most lefties do
Speaker 7: believe me, and they know it.
Speaker 4: They just don't see a problem with it.
Speaker 7: People, you have to get out tomorrow and vote if
Speaker 7: you haven't voted yet. All the early numbers are looking
Speaker 7: really good for the Republicans in every swing state.
Speaker 4: They're looking better than they ever have for early voting.
Speaker 7: But that does not mean you do not keep the
Speaker 7: foot on the pedal. You get your ass out and
Speaker 7: vote tomorrow. Even Colorado can do something tomorrow, folks.
Speaker 4: I want to mention something, this is really serious. Rather
Speaker 4: than looking at a personality, because I know a lot
Speaker 4: of people have things about personalities, look at the platform
Speaker 4: because it's the platform that pushes the people. There's not
Speaker 4: a candidate that can come in and vote totally against
Speaker 4: their own platform. So look at the platforms they're published
Speaker 4: and look at them, because what you'll find is the
Speaker 4: truth truly, I mean what the truth is.
Speaker 7: One of the candidates has been in charge for the
Speaker 7: last three and a half four years, and our country
Speaker 7: is nowhere is in the good shape it was when
Speaker 7: Trump was there or anybody else. But the real part
Speaker 7: that kills me about that is the border more than anything.
Speaker 7: It is absolutely insane. The amount of fetanol coming over,
Speaker 7: the amount of people sucking up resources that US taxpayers
Speaker 7: pay for.
Speaker 4: Mark on the issues. Let me get this out. During
Speaker 4: discussions and during debates, for example, I'm going to give
Speaker 4: you one example. You know, they'll talk about aborting babies
Speaker 4: up to the moment of conception, excuse me, the moment
Speaker 4: of delivery, and people say that's not happening. You know,
Speaker 4: the truth seekers they call them, or the fact checkers
Speaker 4: will say that's not happening in one state. That's true,
Speaker 4: that is absolutely true right now. But the platform says
Speaker 4: that they're in favor of that. So it's not a
Speaker 4: law right now, it's not a right right now. But
Speaker 4: their platform says they're in favor of abortion up to
Speaker 4: the moment of birth. That Colorado right now under Polish,
Speaker 4: I don't know if it is. I think it's it's
Speaker 4: on the ballot this time another novel. Right now, you
Speaker 4: can have an abortion in Colorado up to the day. Okay,
Speaker 4: I don't know that to be sure, but if you
Speaker 4: say that, I'll look it up.
Speaker 7: If they if they go that far, I personally I
Speaker 7: think it's crazy, but you know, whatever to me.
Speaker 4: But it's what I'm telling people is that no matter
Speaker 4: what the laws say. Now, including on the conservative side.
Speaker 4: You know, people say there's going to be a national
Speaker 4: ban on abortion, not in the it's not in the platform. Now.
Speaker 4: That's not to say one or two of them, or
Speaker 4: four of them or five. All I'm saying is this,
Speaker 4: if you look at the platforms as side by side
Speaker 4: right now, just you'll get an idea of issues. Okay,
Speaker 4: that's the bottom line. That's what That's the only message
Speaker 4: I want is that even if you hate the people
Speaker 4: on the ballot, look at the platform because very seldom,
Speaker 4: and I'm serious about this, have the candidates gone against
Speaker 4: their own platform. They haven't. They really haven't. The platforms
Speaker 4: seem to over the years. I went back and looked
Speaker 4: at platforms, and they seem to hold true to their platforms.
Speaker 4: It's just that people don't really look at them. And
Speaker 4: then they're surprised and okay, just do that. Okay, Michelle,
Speaker 4: you have an issue with a contractor what's going on? Michelle? Michelle,
Speaker 4: do you hear me? Yes? I can. What's going on
Speaker 4: with the contract?
Speaker 9: Okay?
Speaker 8: So I got like held damage on my roof.
Speaker 4: And i'm my Okay, So it's a roofer you're talking about.
Speaker 10: Yes, what happened?
Speaker 8: Submitted to the insurance company, and they came on and
Speaker 8: did an estimate on the damage damaged.
Speaker 10: Yes, and then so we got their estimates from the
Speaker 10: insurance adjuster, and then.
Speaker 4: The adjuster estimated how much.
Speaker 11: It was.
Speaker 8: Twenty nine thousands.
Speaker 4: Okay, twenty nine to thirty one okay, so let's say
Speaker 4: thirty so around thirty what happened?
Speaker 8: So then we had we called the roofer and they
Speaker 8: came out and did estimate.
Speaker 4: And then when the roofer came out, when the roof
Speaker 4: came out, they came out on their own after the adjuster.
Speaker 8: Yeah, they came before, they came before that.
Speaker 4: Just again, oh okay, okay, what did the roofers say?
Speaker 8: So he said that the house was damaged pretty bad,
Speaker 8: So then they did did the roofer agree?
Speaker 4: When the roofer came out previously, what did the roofer
Speaker 4: estimate the damage at.
Speaker 8: I think was the twenty about twenty nine.
Speaker 4: And then well, well they're they're agreeing then, right, they're
Speaker 4: both agreeing. Yeah, yeah, So what's the problem now.
Speaker 8: I don't have any problem with the contractor. I'm having
Speaker 8: prone with the mortgage.
Speaker 4: Tell me what's going on.
Speaker 8: So the problem right now is that the first check
Speaker 8: that came, we sent.
Speaker 10: It to them, to the mortgage mortgage, and our mortgage.
Speaker 8: Is Round Point Mortgage mortgage.
Speaker 10: And we sent up the check to them.
Speaker 8: And they sent it back to say, Okay, you guys
Speaker 8: need to.
Speaker 10: Endorse the check. So me and my husband.
Speaker 8: Signed it, and then we send the.
Speaker 10: Check back to the mortgage mortgage.
Speaker 4: Yeah. That's the way. That's the way many of them work.
Speaker 4: Hold on, and I'll come right back to you. I
Speaker 4: just want to make sure of a few things. And
Speaker 4: I'm praying that the that you know that the roofers
Speaker 4: not bugging you for the first check. You should never
Speaker 4: give the first check to the roofer, nor should you
Speaker 4: pay any big money down. And if a roofer says
Speaker 4: you need to ditch them, I don't care who they are.
Speaker 4: I don't care who they are, do not use them.
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Speaker 4: two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino, your troubleshooter.
Speaker 4: I want to go back to Michelle. So, Michelle, uh,
Speaker 4: you sent your check in to your more gage company
Speaker 4: and they haven't sent it back yet. Is that right?
Speaker 12: Yeah?
Speaker 10: So we sent the first check in and they returned
Speaker 10: that check back, and.
Speaker 4: I want to understand that they wanted you to sign it,
Speaker 4: and then you signed it and you sent it to
Speaker 4: the mortgage company. That's where we stand right now. Right
Speaker 4: your mortgage company has your first check, but they have
Speaker 4: not sent you the proceeds. Is that correct?
Speaker 8: They have not finished the transaction because we have two checks.
Speaker 8: So the total of damage is about sixty thousand, Michelle.
Speaker 4: So the first you told me, they asked, oh wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 4: please help me here. You said, the adjuster estimated it
Speaker 4: at thirty grand.
Speaker 8: Okay, thirty was thirty glan.
Speaker 10: But it's not about the window too, so it's all
Speaker 10: the windows are damage to though.
Speaker 4: So Michelle, let me ask you another question. This is
Speaker 4: I want to know your total damage was sixty thousand dollars?
Speaker 4: Is that right?
Speaker 11: Yes?
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, now sixty thousand. And the roofer said the
Speaker 4: roof was thirty thousand. Did you get another estimate for
Speaker 4: the windows?
Speaker 8: Yes, we got so different contractors they could did.
Speaker 4: That, so so your contractors agreed. Okay, that's good. Okay,
Speaker 4: Now here's what I'm so. You got your first How
Speaker 4: many checks in total? Are is the mortgage company holding
Speaker 4: in total?
Speaker 8: So they're holding one check for thirty thousand?
Speaker 4: Okay, and that's all insurances. Hold on, that's all insurances paid, Michelle.
Speaker 4: Is that all insurance has paid so far? Or have
Speaker 4: they sent you more checks?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 8: They have no insurance give us all the costs of
Speaker 8: the damage already. But now the mortgage is holding.
Speaker 4: Show you just told them? Okay?
Speaker 11: Hold on?
Speaker 9: Did I make you swear?
Speaker 13: No?
Speaker 4: You did not. You said all they're holding is thirty
Speaker 4: thousand dollars. That's all you've been paid. Now you tell
Speaker 4: me you've been paid for everything?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 8: Okay, So let me see this again.
Speaker 10: The cause of all the damace.
Speaker 8: Should be sixty thousand.
Speaker 10: The first check, the two.
Speaker 8: Checks that we sent out to them to have been
Speaker 8: signed and send it back, one was for two thousand
Speaker 8: and one was for twenty seven thousand.
Speaker 10: That's like close to thirty thousand.
Speaker 8: And then the third check that we sent to the
Speaker 8: mortgage was another thirty thousand.
Speaker 9: Okay, and then I need to.
Speaker 4: Know, Michelle. Here's what I need to know. How many
Speaker 4: checks have you, not your mortgage company, have you received
Speaker 4: and deposited in your bank or given to a contract
Speaker 4: How many checks for how much?
Speaker 10: Okay, so we got.
Speaker 4: No, Michelle, Michelle, that's a number. That's not a discussion.
Speaker 4: How many How much money have you actually received in
Speaker 4: your bank account or that you paid to the contractor.
Speaker 4: I'm not counting the mortgage company. How much money have
Speaker 4: you received?
Speaker 8: Let's see seven thousand plus thirty thousand?
Speaker 4: There you have received personally so far thirty seven thousand, Yes, yes, okay,
Speaker 4: got And did you pay that money out? Did you
Speaker 4: pay that money out to the contractors?
Speaker 10: Yes, we pay almost all the money.
Speaker 8: To the contractor.
Speaker 4: Good. And has all of the work been done?
Speaker 8: All the windows are done except for.
Speaker 10: The okay, good?
Speaker 4: How about the roof? How about the roof?
Speaker 9: The roof is complete?
Speaker 4: Good? Good? Good?
Speaker 2: Good.
Speaker 4: Now, so what we have now is your final payments
Speaker 4: being withheld by the insurance company, which amounts from your
Speaker 4: math to about twenty three thousand. Yes, okay, so why
Speaker 4: won't they send you that money to pay off the bill?
Speaker 8: So every time we called, yeah, we always give a
Speaker 8: different customer service rep. And each of the rep would
Speaker 8: tell me a different story.
Speaker 4: Well, like, give me, give me an example of a
Speaker 4: story of why they won't send you your money. Okay,
Speaker 4: if you if your if your work is done, and
Speaker 4: you sign those checks, why won't they Why won't they
Speaker 4: release the funds?
Speaker 8: I am not sure. But when I talk to Windy,
Speaker 8: which is a rep over there, he said, we are
Speaker 8: missing some signatures on her on the form, and I
Speaker 8: asked her if.
Speaker 4: She can and that's crazy. So they're holding twenty three
Speaker 4: grand and how long? Tell me? Is that what you owe?
Speaker 4: Or are you going to have money left over? It
Speaker 4: doesn't matter to me. I just need to know.
Speaker 9: So that's how.
Speaker 8: Much money that I need to pay the contract to.
Speaker 10: Ask as all of damage.
Speaker 9: In my garden?
Speaker 4: I get it. Now, what can we do? Do you
Speaker 4: want us to call that mortgage company? There is no
Speaker 4: reason in the world they should be keeping your money.
Speaker 8: So every time I talked to a different personnel, they
Speaker 8: will also tell me that we are missing the adjuster worksheet,
Speaker 8: and they wanted.
Speaker 4: Well, it's their adjuster, not yours.
Speaker 8: Yes, and we submitted to worksheet three times to them.
Speaker 8: They keep saying that they don't get it.
Speaker 4: All right, we need to get to the bottom of this.
Speaker 4: Hold on a second. We just need to call them
Speaker 4: and say, stop jerking these people around. That to me,
Speaker 4: would be the smartest thing to do. Stop jerking these
Speaker 4: people around right now, Hold on, a deputy, d to you,
Speaker 4: are you inundated with cases? I'm not inundated at all. Right,
Speaker 4: Let's take let's what's the name of your mortgage company?
Speaker 9: Point? Mortgage?
Speaker 4: What Point? What say it again, dear?
Speaker 8: Brown Point is in South Carolina?
Speaker 4: Brown Point? Okay, yeah, all right. We will call them
Speaker 4: and is that two words?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 10: Round point is one word?
Speaker 4: Okay, got it? All right. We're gonna call them and
Speaker 4: basically say, what the heck are you doing? Okay, So
Speaker 4: hold on, I'm Tom Martino. People. I want to say
Speaker 4: a few things. It sounds like she didn't get burned.
Speaker 4: She probably dealt with good contractors. The work's almost done,
Speaker 4: the windows are done. She wants to pay her bills.
Speaker 4: Plus she has some money for garden damage. Mortgage companies
Speaker 4: all and play games like this and it sucks. So
Speaker 4: you hang on and we're going to call for her
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Speaker 4: your troubleshooter three O three seven one three talk three
Speaker 4: oh three seven one three A two five five. We
Speaker 4: have Barry Miller with us. We're going to be talking
Speaker 4: about Vesta turnkey. I do have some texts if you
Speaker 4: want to text us questions, you can call in as well.
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Speaker 4: code five seven seven three nine. Right now, Jamie has
Speaker 4: a question or an issue with Annie's pet salon. Jamie,
Speaker 4: what's going on?
Speaker 14: Yeah?
Speaker 9: Uh, you guys just contacted me about this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I called doc. You called with a you
Speaker 4: called with a problem, no doubt. What's going on?
Speaker 9: Well, I have three little dogs that I've been taking
Speaker 9: there since they were babies, Okay, and I took them
Speaker 9: out of that salon right before I saw the video.
Speaker 9: I took them to another groom er in the other groom.
Speaker 4: What video are you talking about?
Speaker 9: There's a video that's going viral on the next door
Speaker 9: neighbor hood thing. Okay, and I guess they said that,
Speaker 9: and what was.
Speaker 4: The video about.
Speaker 9: Well, there was a poodle, an eight month old poodle
Speaker 9: in there, and this lady was you know, just yanked
Speaker 9: his arm or her arm. It was Rosa. Is the
Speaker 9: dog's name?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 5: Under the look.
Speaker 9: Yeah, the dog pulled back. Okay, it's our next door neighbor.
Speaker 9: I've got it on my phone, you know.
Speaker 4: I called that store, right okay. And it was a poodle.
Speaker 9: It was an eight month old poodle. And then when
Speaker 9: the dog yanked back, you know, his his paw, she
Speaker 9: just started choking him. It's not funny, you know, because
Speaker 9: no it's not. I mean no, I know my dogs
Speaker 9: were being abused there because they kept telling me that
Speaker 9: I was the problem they were there.
Speaker 4: Well then don't well then don't take them there anymore.
Speaker 4: But I'm looking and I can't find I can't find
Speaker 4: the post anywhere about it.
Speaker 9: But ver Era Herrera h E R R A R A.
Speaker 4: I think that's who posted it.
Speaker 9: They said that they took it. They they took the
Speaker 9: video down. I've got it on my phone though.
Speaker 4: So what's the first name on Herrera?
Speaker 9: I think it's Laura.
Speaker 4: Laura. Okay, Well, anyway, so what are you calling about?
Speaker 2: Will?
Speaker 9: There was another. It was another groomer that filmed this, okay,
Speaker 9: because I guess she got upset and she filmed this,
Speaker 9: posted it and it just went viral.
Speaker 4: Well for something going viral and I can't find it,
Speaker 4: it can't be that viral. But our affiliate, our affiliate
Speaker 4: has it up KRD card springs, Okay, krd O. Let
Speaker 4: me find it because I can't find it. I got
Speaker 4: the video, all right, lady, we hear you. Geez Okay,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna put it up, but I want to know something.
Speaker 4: Where'd you find Can you send me the link to
Speaker 4: the video. Send it right now, so on text so
Speaker 4: I can put it up anyway. Tell me what you're
Speaker 4: calling about. Thank you for telling us this, Jamie. What
Speaker 4: are you calling about now?
Speaker 9: Well, I'm just trying to you know, you know, I
Speaker 9: just don't want that to happen to anybody else's dogs.
Speaker 9: You know, I've got I've got really good little dogs.
Speaker 9: But you know, they convinced me that I was the problem,
Speaker 9: and I wasn't. You know, I've had them to it.
Speaker 7: They're looking into it and they're going to find out.
Speaker 7: I don't know, man, I look at the video. I
Speaker 7: sure wouldn't want it to be my dog. Don't get
Speaker 7: me wrong, but it's not like I don't know, it's
Speaker 7: not good, but it's not like they're beating it.
Speaker 4: It's like rough handling. Mark.
Speaker 7: Yeah, if it was my dog, i'd be definitely pissed.
Speaker 7: So don't get me wrong, but it's not as bad
Speaker 7: as what I thought I was going to see. The
Speaker 7: authorities are involved. They're doing a full blown invent.
Speaker 4: Send me the link.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I just emailed it to you.
Speaker 9: Killed owner didn't think that there was a problem with it,
Speaker 9: and she was the one that we're.
Speaker 4: Gonna look at it. Okay, So anyway, bottom line here,
Speaker 4: what do you want done?
Speaker 9: I just want to warn people. You know, I would
Speaker 9: have never taken my dog's there, you know if I
Speaker 9: knew that they were being treated that way.
Speaker 4: And they who took this video? I want who took
Speaker 4: the video?
Speaker 9: Another rumor and they've all quit, I guess because they
Speaker 9: don't want to be associated with that.
Speaker 4: Okay, hold on, you know, look, okay, I see what
Speaker 4: Mark is saying. Does that look like that that the
Speaker 4: first I mean they're holding the dog snout? I mean,
Speaker 4: but I mean, my god, I was expecting and listen,
Speaker 4: like I said, like Mark said, it's a little rough,
Speaker 4: but my god, I mean, I don't know if okay,
Speaker 4: let me say here. Then they keep flashing back from it.
Speaker 4: Where okay? Where?
Speaker 9: Well? The thing is is that my dogs were traumatized there.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 7: My dogs are traumatized. Any glomors Mark Mark, Mark, Mark,
Speaker 7: I'm not.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm not to see Okay, Okay, to see it,
Speaker 4: I would not.
Speaker 9: I would not.
Speaker 4: I I hate to tell you this, but she's not
Speaker 4: hurting the dog. I mean, I thought I was going
Speaker 4: to see massive cruelty here. She's not hurting that dog.
Speaker 4: I'm not putting the video up. I mean, well maybe
Speaker 4: I should. I got to see if I can't, first put.
Speaker 7: It up, and I'll do a poll on it and
Speaker 7: we'll get people's reactions.
Speaker 4: Let me see if I can get it up here
Speaker 4: on there, all right, Listen, I got to take a break.
Speaker 4: I'll see if I get it up. Listen, I don't,
Speaker 4: so you see if you can get it up, here's
Speaker 4: the thing, here's the thing. Alhaha, Jamie, listen, I understand
Speaker 4: you're upset, but at least now you know that's not
Speaker 4: the place you want to take your dog. And don't
Speaker 4: take it, but there's nothing you can do in retrospect,
Speaker 4: right right, right, I mean, just don't take up there.
Speaker 9: Anymore problem because yeah, they're just uh, you know, I
Speaker 9: get it.
Speaker 4: You feel vindicated, is what you're saying. And I get it,
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Speaker 4: sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom, Martino here, welcome to the show.
Speaker 4: So if you're streaming our show, we've been showing our
Speaker 4: sister station there for that that runs a that they
Speaker 4: run a radio show and there they have a TV station,
Speaker 4: Channel thirteen and Colorado Springs KABC affiliate, and that we're
Speaker 4: showing a video of this dog groomer and I you know, look,
Speaker 4: I think I wouldn't want my dog there, but it's
Speaker 4: I don't think it's classified as cruelty. That's my opinion.
Speaker 4: I don't either. Some rough handling. I don't like it. Oh,
Speaker 4: it's definitely rough. Well yeah, but it's not even extremely
Speaker 4: I mean, look, I'm not saying, you know, keep doing it,
Speaker 4: but people just have such a way of exaggerating. Three
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Speaker 4: eight two five five. Now, Barry Miller, I know we're
Speaker 4: going to a break callers, hang on. I want to
Speaker 4: give you time to really talk. I promise you. Deputy
Speaker 4: Demetrios and follow ups as well, but I want to
Speaker 4: talk to Barry right now. And I wanted to ask
Speaker 4: him because I have a question here, Barry, have you
Speaker 4: ever had what happens when properties go down in value?
Speaker 4: Like it they can happen with adjustments. Have you ever
Speaker 4: had that happen during Vestera turnkey? Vestera turnkey, he researches markets,
Speaker 4: helps you buy into a property, He serves as your broker,
Speaker 4: and then he monitors that. He has a management company
Speaker 4: he does business with that takes care of the rentals
Speaker 4: for you. They even can take the phone calls for you.
Speaker 4: They basically make you a landlord without the hassle or
Speaker 4: conventional risk. But someone wants to know what's to prevent
Speaker 4: from losing money when I go to sell it.
Speaker 6: Well, we have never had it happen in five years
Speaker 6: since we've been reactive, and then from three until oh eight,
Speaker 6: we also didn't have it happen until the Great Recession occurred,
Speaker 6: and then it happened universally. But we knew about that
Speaker 6: also in advanced and did you get people out? We
Speaker 6: got dozens of people out. They you know, marvel at
Speaker 6: how we did that. Couple people, a handful of people
Speaker 6: didn't did not choose to get out in Florida, but
Speaker 6: they were buying properties at twelve fifteen thousand, they were
Speaker 6: up to sixty thousand, they came down to thirty thousand.
Speaker 6: Then they got out and they still tripled their money. However,
Speaker 6: since twenty nineteen we haven't even come close to any
Speaker 6: annual or quarterly drop in property. The research is stellar,
Speaker 6: very good. It was prior, but since twenty nineteen, no, no,
Speaker 6: can it happen, of course, But frankly we say it
Speaker 6: this way. It'll take a local nine to eleven event
Speaker 6: to occur for those properties to go down and give.
Speaker 4: Me an idea of one of them, one of them.
Speaker 7: Go ahead, Mark, give me an idea, barry of one
Speaker 7: of them. You've done in the past year. A piece
Speaker 7: of property, what city it's in, how much you guys
Speaker 7: paid for it?
Speaker 4: What's it worth? Now?
Speaker 7: How much did people make? I mean, I don't understand
Speaker 7: your plan, to be quite honest. Oh we're gonna we'll
Speaker 7: walk you through it next hour.
Speaker 4: But let's talk about Okay, that sounds an example, But
Speaker 4: right now, though, give an example of a game you
Speaker 4: can get.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we don't give the cities up, Mark, but it's
Speaker 6: North Carolina is one of our hotspots.
Speaker 4: Okay, area US an example.
Speaker 6: Okay paid two eighty five just October twenty twenty three.
Speaker 5: That, yeah, God, we have pictures to eighty five.
Speaker 6: That home today is at approximately three thirty five. That's
Speaker 6: the math that we do, Ben Ray, how many people
Speaker 6: are involved in that house?
Speaker 4: One person per property? Mark if unless you and your
Speaker 4: wife want to do it, or you and me want
Speaker 4: to do it.
Speaker 5: Now this was a husband and wife.
Speaker 4: But the point is Mark, and we'll go through that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I know, it's not a group of people buying into
Speaker 4: a rate or real estate investment trust. It is not,
Speaker 4: as a matter of fact. So I want to go
Speaker 4: over that because people as.
Speaker 7: The average house increase in that area, is that on
Speaker 7: par with everything else?
Speaker 4: Or you guys did that's fixed?
Speaker 6: And magic of our research Mark, Our annual appreciation that
Speaker 6: we use as a is twelve to fourteen percent. Now,
Speaker 6: however those neighborhoods are going up fifteen to nineteen percent
Speaker 6: in reality.
Speaker 4: To answer your question, Mark, it's not just the houses
Speaker 4: he buys. He researches markets that where they see a
Speaker 4: depression in prices. Yeah, they're under the pot and potential
Speaker 4: for great appreciation. So we'll talk about that. Though it
Speaker 4: is a good idea in market. Sing Now I don't
Speaker 4: understand completely, And he asks a question, A lot of
Speaker 4: people do am I buying in with a bunch of
Speaker 4: people and you know what. Yeh, that's a great question. Well,
Speaker 4: we'll talk about that and more coming up on The
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Speaker 4: Three oh three seven one three Talk three oh three
Speaker 4: seven one three eight two five five. Welcome to the show.
Speaker 4: We're here to help you by solving problems, answering questions,
Speaker 4: taking complaints, and we have all kinds of things going on.
Speaker 4: So let's go right to Barry Miller's with me.
Speaker 15: Yes, can I please have the cat cat?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you like the cat people are Okay, that's Princess,
Speaker 4: my daughter's cat. My daughter lives here.
Speaker 15: Princess.
Speaker 4: Yes, that's so, my daughter's cat. And and she loves
Speaker 4: coming down here. She loves Dmitri. Now she likes me
Speaker 4: a little, but she loves Dmitri. I think she knows
Speaker 4: Dmitri has a couple of cats. And then so when
Speaker 4: my daughter's off at work or school or whatever, she
Speaker 4: comes down here to say hi to us. Well, she
Speaker 4: has made herself at home.
Speaker 15: Adam, wold not let me replace the cat cat? So
Speaker 15: what do you mean kidnap yours?
Speaker 4: Okay, well, she's she's kind of a sweet cat, but
Speaker 4: she is she she likes coming down when we're here,
Speaker 4: and normally she's framed out. But I can't frame I
Speaker 4: assume she doesn't go outside at all. No, no, no, no, yeah,
Speaker 4: you know I used to let cats out when I
Speaker 4: was in the country. But Mark, you know it's hard.
Speaker 4: You have cats and they don't last lost. If we've
Speaker 4: lost a couple that way, So we had barncats, we'd
Speaker 4: keep in the barn, or we have housecats. We learned
Speaker 4: that you just can't do that anymore. Anyway, you can
Speaker 4: tell the personality.
Speaker 7: We've had one that I don't think w whatever get
Speaker 7: killed by coyotes, but other ones they just get suckered in.
Speaker 4: Man. Yeah, I want to bring I want to bring
Speaker 4: up a couple of things. Here we have Jeanette. Two
Speaker 4: weeks ago she called in with a car sale with Dmitri. Dmitri,
Speaker 4: just can you recap the problem please?
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 12: Jeanette bought a Jeep from Driving Motion up in Greeley,
Speaker 12: and according to Jeanette, they warned her that this car
Speaker 12: won't pass the missions because it needs an ABS module.
Speaker 4: Well, which of course doesn't have anything to do with
Speaker 4: the mission. But what's really funny is you're here, you're right.
Speaker 4: But what's really funny is they're not supposed to sell
Speaker 4: it that way. It's a tollway. And she said it
Speaker 4: wasn't sold as a tollway well.
Speaker 12: And furthermore, Jeannette went on to repair the ABS module
Speaker 12: at the expense of I think she said, fifteen hundred dollars.
Speaker 12: And of course the car still want pass emissions now where.
Speaker 4: They never gave her the three day voucher to go
Speaker 4: get it done.
Speaker 12: They got the they gave her the voucher, but unfortunately
Speaker 12: they gave her that story allegedly, so she didn't have
Speaker 12: it in the first three So that's the effects of
Speaker 12: that story delayed her getting emission test.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but unless she can prove that, yeah, it was
Speaker 4: a stalling tactic. If she got a three day voucher
Speaker 4: and she did not have it tested within that three days,
Speaker 4: they're going to have a very tough time. She's going
Speaker 4: to agree.
Speaker 12: I agree, and I made I would say five calls
Speaker 12: to Drive in Motion, including one about ten minutes ago
Speaker 12: asking him to either talk to me where this is
Speaker 12: their Greeley store.
Speaker 4: Well, Greeley, Weld County has the worst car dealers in
Speaker 4: the universe anyway, the worst ever and is Long Mountain
Speaker 4: Weel County. But they're all you know, they're all they sucked,
Speaker 4: they all suck. And again, so basically she needs to
Speaker 4: go to the state dealer licensing board. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 4: except they're going to say, wait a minute, you got
Speaker 4: the three day voucher and you didn't have it done.
Speaker 4: But if we can prove that the problem causing it
Speaker 4: not to pass was obviously not recent, maybe we can
Speaker 4: make that argument. What is the problem causing it not
Speaker 4: to fail a mission?
Speaker 12: Well, I think that's why Jeanette is on the phone
Speaker 12: because she's had some experiences with mechanics recently.
Speaker 4: Find out Jeanette, Well, I.
Speaker 16: Did take the voucher. The person at the admissions place
Speaker 16: did take my voucher after I explained to them the situation.
Speaker 16: It did well, sure, but it didn't right, No, it
Speaker 16: didn't pass.
Speaker 4: But what was the reason it didn't pass?
Speaker 16: They said that there's fumes coming from the the.
Speaker 11: Gas ap.
Speaker 9: Cat area.
Speaker 4: That's it. It could be just the overflow. There's an
Speaker 4: overflow tube that gets plugged, and then there's bad gas caps.
Speaker 4: That could be really minimum. I don't understand, though, Do
Speaker 4: you have any proof that they told you that it
Speaker 4: would not pass emissions?
Speaker 17: I believe it's on my paperwork.
Speaker 4: Because that would be the oddest deal I've ever seen.
Speaker 4: They give you a three day coupon saying go get
Speaker 4: it tested. It will pass. That's what the coupon basically says,
Speaker 4: and if not, we'll take it back. Yet, on the paperwork,
Speaker 4: it says this vehicle will not pass emissions. So that
Speaker 4: is a dichotomy that does not make sense to me.
Speaker 4: So here's what we're going to do. Send me your
Speaker 4: deal paperwork. I want to see where that's written, and
Speaker 4: then we can help you. Three oh three seven one
Speaker 4: three talk three oh three seven one three A two
Speaker 4: five five. When people tell me they got paperwork, that's
Speaker 4: where I stop. I got to see the paperwork. If
Speaker 4: it's written this will not pass emissions, then it's going
Speaker 4: to be the weirdest deal I've ever seen. That they
Speaker 4: give her a three day coupon to get it and
Speaker 4: tested when they told her ahead of time it would
Speaker 4: not pass How many want to take my side? Bet
Speaker 4: that she does not have such a clause in her paperwork. Anybody,
Speaker 4: There's no way a dealer can be that stupid. Three
Speaker 4: O three seven one three talk seven one three A
Speaker 4: two five five. Now, my deputy Bow has been working
Speaker 4: with someone. He had an issue with Mike Marony Chevrolet.
Speaker 4: What was it, bo that you were helping with?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: From from the eleventh Yeah.
Speaker 18: Called in on the eleventh he bought a new truck
Speaker 18: from Mike Marony Chevrolet, and he discovered a paint defect
Speaker 18: in a rocker panel in the door, but he waited,
Speaker 18: you know, he bought the car, the truck in twenty
Speaker 18: twenty three. He talked to the sales manager there and.
Speaker 4: Did I take the caller? Did Mark? I don't seem
Speaker 4: to have it in my notes, do you.
Speaker 19: Know normally I write that down.
Speaker 4: I think I took that. Okay, good, Okay.
Speaker 18: They go ahead, okay, both So the sales manager Jimmy there,
Speaker 18: they came to negotiation where they were just going to
Speaker 18: give him sixteen hundred dollars okay for the paint. But
Speaker 18: as usual, there's always two sides of this story. And
Speaker 18: the manager, this Jimmy guy left the dealership.
Speaker 19: So it was kind of what he said, she said,
Speaker 19: So he was calling for about a few months. I've called.
Speaker 18: I had to write a letter to Mike Maroney himself,
Speaker 18: and he did have his uh sales the general manager,
Speaker 18: Daniel write me a letter back, and I forwarded the
Speaker 18: pat Since the manager, the sales manager's gone, they can
Speaker 18: deal with the defect, but he has to file acclaim
Speaker 18: with It's a general motors issue, not a dealer issue,
Speaker 18: and it's clearly stated in his paperwork. Also, they charged
Speaker 18: him nine dollars for a seal coat on his truck.
Speaker 19: But Pat the caller never received the seal coat.
Speaker 4: So the man they're going to read are they going
Speaker 4: to read the manager?
Speaker 19: The general manager, Mike Maroney wrote me.
Speaker 4: A nice letter.
Speaker 5: Sitting there.
Speaker 4: They're they're going to Mike Mike Maroney. You mean someone
Speaker 4: at Mike Maroney wrote you a letter.
Speaker 19: Yeah, his general manager, Daniel.
Speaker 4: Got all up.
Speaker 19: Yeah, it's like his right hand man.
Speaker 18: They're going to give Pat a full credit of nine
Speaker 18: hundred dollars for this seal coat because it was never applied.
Speaker 18: But as for the paint defect, you know, listeners, when
Speaker 18: you talked to these salespeople, you need to get get
Speaker 18: it in writing or attack.
Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, I mean there's just been getting it in writing.
Speaker 4: We have found is weak. If you just don't buy
Speaker 4: the car, I don't buy the car with Weoh nah,
Speaker 4: don't buy it.
Speaker 18: And then it took fifteen months to discover this defect
Speaker 18: to really get going on it.
Speaker 4: But I think that's a big problem.
Speaker 18: But I think you can get it corrected if he
Speaker 18: files acclaimed with General Motors.
Speaker 4: Okay, thank you? Bo three oh three seven one three
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Speaker 4: I have the esteem Barry Miller with us from festera
Speaker 4: turnkey and Mark asks how the program works so let's
Speaker 4: let's explain this because so many people are asking questions
Speaker 4: the same questions. Okay, they think it's a group investment.
Speaker 4: Now let me explain this. Let me start out by saying,
Speaker 4: Vestera Turnkey is a strategy. It was developed by Barry Miller,
Speaker 4: who has a years of a spotless reputation in real life.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you that right now. He's next to godliness
Speaker 4: like Frank durand the real estate man. Now, so Barry Miller,
Speaker 4: no fooling, just a great guy. Now, Barry Miller started
Speaker 4: this strategy where he goes out to markets. He wanted
Speaker 4: to help people become landlords without the hassle. So he
Speaker 4: started researching markets because the biggest hassle with rentals, there's
Speaker 4: two hassles. One you don't buy right, you don't sell right,
Speaker 4: you lose money or you don't make a lot. And
Speaker 4: number two you have negative cash flow, which doesn't help.
Speaker 4: But all the other benefits, that depreciation, all that that's
Speaker 4: good stuff. So now Barry said, what if I could
Speaker 4: help people turn a positive cash flow and not guarantee
Speaker 4: but almost as sure they're going to make money on
Speaker 4: the sale. So he looked for markets that consistently appreciate. Now,
Speaker 4: it could be a great market, like Denver was turns
Speaker 4: out not to be a good market now. And some
Speaker 4: of the markets he puts you in, they are great now,
Speaker 4: but it may not be great in five years because
Speaker 4: as they appreciate, they outvalue themselves to where a point
Speaker 4: where you can't buy right. In Colorado, you can't buy
Speaker 4: right and you want to buy a rental here, you're
Speaker 4: crazy if you try so. Now, Barry take it away.
Speaker 4: So you put together a program that finds these markets.
Speaker 6: The research finds the best markets in the country. But
Speaker 6: add to what you said, the strong economy has to
Speaker 6: be there. Colorado Springs was a hot spot until it
Speaker 6: priced itself out of being a positive cash flow and
Speaker 6: top flight appreciation for the next three years.
Speaker 5: So you just now, So you.
Speaker 4: Need rentals that will support it, and you need appreciation
Speaker 4: that will support it.
Speaker 6: And we need neighborhoods that are not fixed and flippers.
Speaker 5: We're in the opposite end.
Speaker 6: We are buying properties with nearly no deferred maintenance for
Speaker 6: the next two to three years. Now, that's all research,
Speaker 6: all based on research that we know how to do.
Speaker 4: Now, when you find these properties, Mark, you ask do
Speaker 4: I own this with a group of people. The answer
Speaker 4: is no. Here's what happens. Barry takes investors at his
Speaker 4: seminars or who hear his commercials, and he says, okay,
Speaker 4: you want to sign up. What's the minimum Barry.
Speaker 5: It's about sixty thousand.
Speaker 4: Okay. So let's say you have sixty to invest. That
Speaker 4: will get you one property right, That'll.
Speaker 5: Get you one good property right.
Speaker 4: So for sixty grand you get one good property. That
Speaker 4: sixty grand goes into the property makes a normal commission,
Speaker 4: and and and that's all. What go ahead.
Speaker 6: We we don't get directly paid at all. We find
Speaker 6: the best buyer agent fiduciary buyer agent in that marketplace
Speaker 6: who becomes the buyer's buyer agent. The buyer agent closes
Speaker 6: and sends us roughly a big referral fee.
Speaker 7: Okay, So the sixty the sixty grand in this instance
Speaker 7: I give to you. Guys, is there a deed in
Speaker 7: my name? What do I get back? That's what we're
Speaker 7: going through. So that's sixty grand.
Speaker 4: Mark, you are one hundred percent the owner of that property.
Speaker 4: And all Vestera is doing is assisting in the buying
Speaker 4: and the selling at the right time.
Speaker 7: And how do I own a property for sixty grand,
Speaker 7: which is mark.
Speaker 4: It's called you get a mortgage. That's what we're going
Speaker 4: to go through. Go ahead, barriers, down payment Mark.
Speaker 6: The lenders now a days and have for the last
Speaker 6: three or four years typically say you have to put
Speaker 6: twenty five percent down.
Speaker 5: That's your down payment.
Speaker 6: And that's why we don't have any markets within one
Speaker 6: thousand miles of Colorado. Look, the median price of a
Speaker 6: home in the United States is roughly four hundred thousand.
Speaker 6: What is the median price of the same house in Denver,
Speaker 6: Colorado roughly six hundred and fifty thousand. So we are
Speaker 6: in markets that are and I don't always say this,
Speaker 6: but are under four hundred thousand median price.
Speaker 5: That's part of the key.
Speaker 4: Okay, Now they take let's say Mark is an investor. Yes,
Speaker 4: sixty grand goes down. All of that money Mark goes
Speaker 4: into the property. Okay, you buy the property. Now, obviously
Speaker 4: normal commissions are paid, and those commissions a barry gets
Speaker 4: a referral fee. But this is what's really important. For
Speaker 4: that referral fee buying and selling, that's all they charge you. Mark.
Speaker 4: The normal commission is if you did it on your own,
Speaker 4: you'd pay that. Oh yeah, but you get you get
Speaker 4: to pay that normal commission, not a penny more, and
Speaker 4: you don't pay anything else for Barry's expertise. That's it
Speaker 4: now for that money. Now, they put you in touch
Speaker 4: with the lenders. They put you in touch with and
Speaker 4: they walk you through it. They put you in touch
Speaker 4: with the management companies they've been using for years. Then
Speaker 4: they go out and find they find your your renter,
Speaker 4: They collect rent, they manage it. If you don't want
Speaker 4: to take a phone call, it's an extra how much.
Speaker 6: A year three hundred and sixty dollars per property per year,
Speaker 6: twelve months.
Speaker 4: And then vestera. Barry and his team makes all the
Speaker 4: decisions you know that aren't major and going to broke you.
Speaker 4: They take care of the minor crap every day, day
Speaker 4: to day things. Okay, so now your hands off. When
Speaker 4: does a buyer like Mark, if he put a sixty
Speaker 4: grant in in his mind he owns a house in
Speaker 4: ex North Carolina or South Carolina, when does he ever
Speaker 4: get involved before they sell?
Speaker 6: When anytime he wants to, we're sending him regular reports
Speaker 6: on the economy, the neighborhood, and that property like annual appreciation.
Speaker 4: Where does his positive cash flow go to him? Now,
Speaker 4: if he has someone move out, which occasionally happens, and
Speaker 4: the management company charges half of the first month or
Speaker 4: all of the first month.
Speaker 5: Good question, Tom.
Speaker 6: We have gotten them to negotiate either zero or a
Speaker 6: flat five hundred dollars fee.
Speaker 4: Okay, So we're there. Ever a month? Is there ever
Speaker 4: a month? An owner like Mark, if he put his
Speaker 4: sixty grand in where he would have to write a check.
Speaker 6: I would say, in a four year period, you'd have
Speaker 6: to have twenty marks. And maybe in a four year
Speaker 6: period one or two of those people would have one
Speaker 6: or two negative months.
Speaker 4: Okay, but overall it's positive.
Speaker 6: Yes, the interest rates have us cringing a little bit, right,
Speaker 6: and some of our buyers have said, we'd rather not
Speaker 6: wait two months for positive cash flow. So we have
Speaker 6: an absolute limit on what the negative can be at
Speaker 6: the request of our customer.
Speaker 4: Now, what if you want to finance the whole house?
Speaker 4: Is that not wise?
Speaker 6: We have people who do that. That's where their comfort
Speaker 6: level is. Okay, economically, financially, they see it in writing,
Speaker 6: they hear me say it. That is not the highest
Speaker 6: and best use of your money.
Speaker 4: Okay. Got it. Now, when Mark it puts his sixty
Speaker 4: in and he owns the property, when does he sell it.
Speaker 5: At his timeline for his oriors?
Speaker 4: That we discuss, but you may recommend, we think you
Speaker 4: should sell.
Speaker 5: We recommend, and I'll say, typically, what.
Speaker 4: Am I tied to you until I do sell?
Speaker 5: No? Nothing, exclusive, no exclusive target.
Speaker 4: If you want to sell on your own, you can
Speaker 4: seal by for sale by owner. Go ahead and bet.
Speaker 6: Not tied to us. That that's the part of the
Speaker 6: magic here too. But but you will most of our
Speaker 6: investors wealth builders have said, maximize our return. Now, keep
Speaker 6: in mind the return is forty five fifty fifty five
Speaker 6: percent per year. Yes, it's on paper, except unless you
Speaker 6: want to borrow the money from your own property. So
Speaker 6: it's very liquid. We don't tolerate that non liquid stuff.
Speaker 6: It's liquid. But yeah, you don't have all that money
Speaker 6: at your disposal to yourself. But anyhow, most of the
Speaker 6: people want maximum return because they're the smartest thing.
Speaker 4: Okay, so Mark says, handle it. When would you tell
Speaker 4: them to sell?
Speaker 6: Typically two to two and a half years. Here's what
Speaker 6: people are doing selling that one property with us involved.
Speaker 6: As we negotiate lower fees no lower commissions in the
Speaker 6: field and buying two properties now doubling their return with
Speaker 6: positive cash flow on each property and typically no out
Speaker 6: of pocket cash for those purchases. Okay, ten thirty one
Speaker 6: tax deferred exchange.
Speaker 4: Now, I'm going to say something up front here, it
Speaker 4: is always best if you have sixty or more to
Speaker 4: go direct to Vestera for the best return and the
Speaker 4: best simplicity. However, there are people that have been asking
Speaker 4: me if if I'm getting involved. Now, I'm getting involved
Speaker 4: in two ways, personally and through Wave eight Wealth Management. Personally,
Speaker 4: I'm going to get involved with Barry just own some properties.
Speaker 4: That's the best, most efficient way. But if let's say
Speaker 4: you don't want to invest sixty grand, let's say you
Speaker 4: want to invest I think we're going to make a minimum.
Speaker 4: But let's say it's ten grand. Now we're going to
Speaker 4: put together a group an LLC and I or Wave
Speaker 4: eight will go out and get the mortgage and Wave
Speaker 4: eight will be the owner. But you'll well not Wave eight.
Speaker 4: But wait, we're going to call it a Wave Vister
Speaker 4: Era one, Wave ASTERRA two. We're putting together LLCs. Each
Speaker 4: LLC will probably buy three to five properties. Okay, and
Speaker 4: then we'll be Barry's owner. We'll deal with Barry. You
Speaker 4: will be part of that. So if you put in
Speaker 4: ten grand, you'll get your pro rata share of gain.
Speaker 4: If it's a fifty percent gain, you'll get another five
Speaker 4: grand for putting ten in. And you will have to
Speaker 4: be in for the life of the LLC. So if
Speaker 4: Barry says it's going to be three years on this
Speaker 4: one or two and a half years, we're going to
Speaker 4: do that. Now, if you want to buy out early,
Speaker 4: we'll liquidate you. You're not going to lose money, but
Speaker 4: you can't. It's not fair to stay in for a
Speaker 4: year and then all the others and for two and
Speaker 4: a half and you get the same return. You're just
Speaker 4: not going to do it. But we're going to put
Speaker 4: together LLC's through our investment company. For those who do
Speaker 4: not want to own the whole thing on their own,
Speaker 4: or they want to buy a smaller piece of let's
Speaker 4: say three to five properties. I'm telling you upfront it's
Speaker 4: better to go to Barry directly and own a property.
Speaker 4: It's way less complicated, but we will manage and handle
Speaker 4: it all. If you want to just be in a group,
Speaker 4: I'm going to be in every single group I put together.
Speaker 4: I'm telling you that right now, me personally, through my
Speaker 4: company Wave eight Wealth Management, we will own part of
Speaker 4: it with you. So it's not I mean me personally,
Speaker 4: not the company. Me personally will own part of that
Speaker 4: with you. So what happens if you go through us
Speaker 4: and you only put in ten or twenty or twenty
Speaker 4: five or thirty, Well, that's what you do. It's less
Speaker 4: than the initial investment, therefore less the return. It'll still
Speaker 4: be the same percentage return, except we will take a
Speaker 4: management fee of one percent. If that's the only difference.
Speaker 4: So so you.
Speaker 7: Plus plus, how would that person decide to sell it?
Speaker 7: I mean, wouldn't that be a vote with everybody else's
Speaker 7: If you did it.
Speaker 4: In a smaller chunk through one of my c's, you
Speaker 4: would have to you'd have to sell when we all
Speaker 4: when we liquidate. Okay, So in other words, we will
Speaker 4: go totally by what Barry says. If Barry says, Tom,
Speaker 4: now's a good time to sell, and it's been two years,
Speaker 4: we will put a limit on it. We'll put a
Speaker 4: three year limit on it, but it can go anywhere
Speaker 4: from a year to three years. Let's say and so
Speaker 4: if someone wants out early, Mark, they're not going to
Speaker 4: be able to sell because it's not their house. They
Speaker 4: only own part of an LLC, and we will cash
Speaker 4: them out of the LLC, but we will not you know,
Speaker 4: they're not going to get a fifty percent return if
Speaker 4: they're in for a year and the other people are
Speaker 4: in for two years. Okay, So what we're doing is,
Speaker 4: it's let me put it simple, We're allowing people with
Speaker 4: smaller chunks of cash to be part of Vestera. That's
Speaker 4: what we're doing. But I'm telling you upfront it would
Speaker 4: be better to do it on your own direct if
Speaker 4: you have the full amount. There are many people that
Speaker 4: don't have the full amount. But there's one other thing.
Speaker 4: There are people that want to put retirement money in it.
Speaker 4: And in order to do that, you can't do it
Speaker 4: on your own. You can't do it direct. You have
Speaker 4: to go through a third party. And we have the
Speaker 4: arrangement with a trust company to self direct your IRA,
Speaker 4: so you can do it legally and ethically with your
Speaker 4: qualified money. Okay, so you can do that, but you
Speaker 4: must have an intermediary, so you can't do it directly.
Speaker 4: And Mark, you and I have done things like that
Speaker 4: with our retirement funds through an intermediary. Right, we've done
Speaker 4: it together. We have yeah, and it's a legit way
Speaker 4: of doing it. But if you have retirement money, you
Speaker 4: can't go to Bury directly and use it. You can.
Speaker 4: He's not allowed to do that. We are, okay. That's
Speaker 4: it in a nutshell. If you have any other questions,
Speaker 4: give us a call or text us and five seven
Speaker 4: seven three nine is the short code, or you can
Speaker 4: text my Google number and my Google number is seven
Speaker 4: four seven nine nine eighty. Again. It's really a good program.
Speaker 4: That's why I'm getting involved in it through my other company.
Speaker 4: And if you have any other problems, questioner complaints, of course,
Speaker 4: give us a call. We have a lot to talk
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Speaker 4: three talk seven one three eight two five five. So
Speaker 4: we're talking with Barry Miller about Vestera Turnkey. But of
Speaker 4: course we'll take any and all of your calls, problems, questions, complaints.
Speaker 4: We have a lot to talk about today, and of
Speaker 4: course the election is tomorrow, so the issues are of
Speaker 4: utmost important. But what's amazing is it used to be
Speaker 4: most people voted on election day. Is that still the
Speaker 4: way it is? Or are most people actually voting before
Speaker 4: election day?
Speaker 5: I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't really know the numbers on it yet, do
Speaker 4: you know, Barry.
Speaker 6: I do two Roughly two thirds of the people are
Speaker 6: putting in ahead of time, and so we.
Speaker 4: Actually have more people voting than not Yeah, ahead election Yep,
Speaker 4: this is the biggest year.
Speaker 6: I saw some big reports. I'm a night person, so
Speaker 6: I saw I watched the two AM and three Am
Speaker 6: New and they're saying thirty two to thirty five percent
Speaker 6: will be there. As a veteran, if I may just
Speaker 6: add this little piece, I think election day should be
Speaker 6: a national holiday, and that should be Veterans Day, because
Speaker 6: that's what the heck we protected when we went to
Speaker 6: war to protect rights in our country. So I think
Speaker 6: it should be even a fewer people are that everybody
Speaker 6: else have a holiday.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? That that is a that's
Speaker 4: a cool idea that would get people maybe to vote.
Speaker 6: When I run for office, it's going to be one
Speaker 6: of my platform pieces.
Speaker 4: Which office would that be?
Speaker 5: I won't say?
Speaker 4: Okay anyway, three all three, seven to one to three
Speaker 4: talkers are number if you have a question, three O
Speaker 4: three seven one three two five five. So I'm going
Speaker 4: to go to the text. I do have one. Do
Speaker 4: any people use qualified funds? We went through that. If
Speaker 4: you have a quality fight intermediary, you can use qualified funds.
Speaker 6: They borrow they're borrowing from their four oh one k's
Speaker 6: and some of their iras.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's different.
Speaker 5: That's different. They have to borrow it. But but they
Speaker 5: handle that.
Speaker 4: But if they borrow it, it's not tax deferred earnings.
Speaker 5: It's not the same. They have some money.
Speaker 4: If they use the qualified money, all of those earnings. Barry,
Speaker 4: do you realize what thirty to fifty or fifty to
Speaker 4: eighty percent tax deferred means, oh my god, what they
Speaker 4: don't qualified. Yeah, but again, as I said, we act
Speaker 4: as qualified intomediaries with along with a trust company at
Speaker 4: Wave eight Wealth Management. And by the way, the website
Speaker 4: that the website for that is you can just do
Speaker 4: Waveeightcapital dot Comwaveeightcapital dot com will get you there. Wave
Speaker 4: eight Capital. And then are there any hot cities in
Speaker 4: the Mountain West? And there's a reason you don't give
Speaker 4: out the cities. Well, you do to the people buying,
Speaker 4: but you just don't.
Speaker 5: Sign of our customers.
Speaker 4: It's proprietary.
Speaker 6: Why it's proprietary because now how direct can I be?
Speaker 6: Because so many real estate people don't know how to add, subtract, divide,
Speaker 6: and multiply.
Speaker 5: Their ethics are questionable.
Speaker 6: It's a dui industry, deceptive most of the time, unethical frequently,
Speaker 6: and illegal once in a while. So I don't want
Speaker 6: real estate people who are not competent trying to give
Speaker 6: make people wealthy when they don't even know how to
Speaker 6: do it themselves.
Speaker 5: So I'm protective of the consumers.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because if you say go to this city, and
Speaker 4: now they try to go direct with their own person.
Speaker 6: They're going to get agents who don't negotiate the best
Speaker 6: price when they buy. They get agents who don't negotiate
Speaker 6: the best price when they sell. When you sell, you
Speaker 6: want the agent who's going to get your maximum dollars.
Speaker 6: When you buy, you want minimum dollars.
Speaker 4: And you also negotiate the best management fees.
Speaker 6: Management fees and management. And then again we're overseeing the
Speaker 6: management and then the management company man. They don't make
Speaker 6: errors because if they do, it's going to affect a
Speaker 6: lot of their business.
Speaker 4: Put it that way, Okay, So then the question are
Speaker 4: you in the Rocky Mountain West at all?
Speaker 5: We are not.
Speaker 6: We're looking all the time, we're researching, we have a
Speaker 6: research staff. We researched all the time and nothing. I mean,
Speaker 6: Boise was a hot market, but it went so fast,
Speaker 6: up high, so fast, it went too high, and it
Speaker 6: was all negative cash flow and it did not have
Speaker 6: the supporting supporting economy. Now you have to have the
Speaker 6: supporting economy called jobs.
Speaker 4: Now, my brother on his own went on a motorcycle
Speaker 4: treck looking for markets. I know it's silly, but the
Speaker 4: problem is is that's what he did. And so what
Speaker 4: I'd like to know is he thought Iowa was good.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not saying it is or not, but
Speaker 4: do you think.
Speaker 6: I Boin made our top twenty in the last the
Speaker 6: last quarter was our annual evaluation for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5: It's huge research.
Speaker 6: We then do all that research quarterly where we are
Speaker 6: are researching our top roughly fifty markets. But yeah, des
Speaker 6: Moines came close, I mean making it in the top twenty.
Speaker 6: They're good markets. But it's more or less a simple question.
Speaker 6: Do you want twenty five percent return thirty five or
Speaker 6: forty five to fifty five? Everybody says Barry will take
Speaker 6: fifty thank you.
Speaker 5: So Des Moines.
Speaker 6: Doesn't make it on our on our list, not being
Speaker 6: arrogant about it, but just being factual.
Speaker 4: So you're looking at markets where you definitely get the
Speaker 4: highest return, not just in rent, but in capital gains.
Speaker 6: The capital gains and rent combined. Our that's what our
Speaker 6: typical lowest customer right now is that approximately forty five
Speaker 6: percent annual returns right now, and that's lower than it
Speaker 6: was two and three years ago. We had people doubling
Speaker 6: their money in twelve months. We are selling properties after
Speaker 6: twelve and fifteen months two three and four years ago. Well,
Speaker 6: we have to go with the market. We have to
Speaker 6: do what's best for each customer. Now it's two to
Speaker 6: two and a half years, you've doubled the money. It's
Speaker 6: time to sell properties.
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Speaker 4: the time they benefit from illegal labor. So this person's
Speaker 4: theory is that they want the illegal immigrants in Texas.
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Speaker 4: Or you can call with any problem, any question, or
Speaker 4: any question on the coming propositions and election ballot issues.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to talk about people, but I will
Speaker 4: talk about the issues and the ballot and uh, we
Speaker 4: have Christine who wants to talk about Castle rockelection. Go ahead, Christine.
Speaker 4: By the way, again, anything people call in about is
Speaker 4: fine with me, and I'm even starting a new segment
Speaker 4: I want to introduce to people, and it's before you
Speaker 4: find out, before you make an opinion. It is called opinions,
Speaker 4: but it has nothing to do with politics. It's called
Speaker 4: opinions and it's a little different than direct help. And
Speaker 4: I'm sure you're going to love this. This is something
Speaker 4: I talked to Mark about probably a year ago, but
Speaker 4: we never got started with it. Christine, go ahead, Tom,
Speaker 4: thank you, good afternoon.
Speaker 20: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 4: What's going on?
Speaker 20: Everything you do?
Speaker 4: Thank you?
Speaker 20: We have we have. We have an election ballot two
Speaker 20: A for Castle Rock and I am pretty much for
Speaker 20: voting and advocating for people to vote no to giving
Speaker 20: the Castle Rock cops twenty cents on one hundred dollars
Speaker 20: so they can hire more police officers. They have ninety
Speaker 20: six police officers sworn officers, nineteen volunteers and thirty two
Speaker 20: staffs and they waste resources with five police cars showing up.
Speaker 20: They've got nothing better to do.
Speaker 7: Why would you want why would you want to defund
Speaker 7: the police?
Speaker 4: No, she's saying not, she's saying they have enough.
Speaker 7: As what I hear her saying, God, Castle Rocks growing
Speaker 7: like crazy.
Speaker 20: Well, they don't train them properly and they don't pay them.
Speaker 4: She's just anti cap are listen, No, not at all.
Speaker 4: Let me finish, Okay, Christine, Christine, just so you know, Christine, Christine,
Speaker 4: just so you know, I'll let you finish. And I
Speaker 4: have no problem with what you're saying. I'll let you
Speaker 4: say it. Mark was just asking because he lives down
Speaker 4: that way. He's saying, it's very, very busy, and why
Speaker 4: wouldn't you want more money for them?
Speaker 20: Go ahead, Okay, absolutely, I am. I am totally for
Speaker 20: the police officers, not this police department or the chief
Speaker 20: of police, the man I spoke to, and the chief
Speaker 20: of police. Regarding the fact that they cited me as
Speaker 20: h away president for volunteering with the board to clean
Speaker 20: up abandoned property, they cited me for theft.
Speaker 7: It's obvious it's her, So I mean, god seconds to
Speaker 7: point out.
Speaker 20: Okay, let me finish. They're wasting police, they're wasting task
Speaker 20: payers resources with five police cars showing up, and I
Speaker 20: am all about the population growing in more police officers.
Speaker 20: They're not training, they're police officers that this is a
Speaker 20: civil matter, not a criminal matter, and there is no property.
Speaker 4: Christine we have to admit you have a personal beef
Speaker 4: with the police right well.
Speaker 20: Actually we're filing a lawsuit against them because it gave
Speaker 20: them a chance to draw.
Speaker 7: You can't even admit that. I mean, that's all she's
Speaker 7: been we as. I understand where you stand.
Speaker 4: I understand, but I want to ask about your situation
Speaker 4: because i'd like to give an opinion on it, if
Speaker 4: you don't mind. What happened? So what happened?
Speaker 20: I we have some great police officers that we've dealt
Speaker 20: with with our aid.
Speaker 4: Christine, I'm not asking about police right now, Christine, if
Speaker 4: you would like, I would like to give, honest to
Speaker 4: God an unbiased opinion on what you're just called on
Speaker 4: the situation that sparked this feeling. So what happened?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 9: Okay?
Speaker 20: So we volunteered twice a year to clean up abandoned
Speaker 20: properties that either tenants or homeowners throw in the common
Speaker 20: areas in the alleyway against the gas meters in the buildings.
Speaker 20: We've been doing it for years. And a tenant had
Speaker 20: a friend on fourth the dry weekend who actually helped
Speaker 20: me load this broken planner leaning against the gas meters
Speaker 20: with one hundred pounds of soil. It had been there
Speaker 20: for almost a year. Neighbors were complaining. We loaded it
Speaker 20: on my truck, including the tenant's friends who cargo strafted,
Speaker 20: went to the dump with a receipt. A month and
Speaker 20: a half later, the cops show up at my door.
Speaker 20: I plain to them the ha On area. It's a
Speaker 20: civil matter, it's a covenant violation, and we got a
Speaker 20: receipt that it had no value. They wouldn't listen, so
Speaker 20: we had to retain an attorney with HOA money to
Speaker 20: go to court.
Speaker 4: And so she stole something. It's pretty straightforward, Mark, Mark
Speaker 4: hold on it. So seriously, So Christine, just wait when
Speaker 4: you say you volunteer to clean up properties? Is that
Speaker 4: within your subdivision?
Speaker 17: Correct?
Speaker 20: It's a private covenant.
Speaker 4: Uh, I get it. I get it, just Christine, I
Speaker 4: get it. Listen. So you go around for the HOA
Speaker 4: and clean up property. Now do you clean up property
Speaker 4: with or without permission of the people who live there?
Speaker 20: So it's it's abandoned of it's not their yard. It's
Speaker 20: actually at the edge of the buildings or between buildings.
Speaker 20: We don't know whose it is. So management didn't know
Speaker 20: whose it was. It was abandoned property and they didn't have.
Speaker 4: So you do this, you do this with the blessings
Speaker 4: of your ho A.
Speaker 20: Correct, we have it under our covenant. And it was
Speaker 20: like five.
Speaker 4: Kit deck And what was it? What was it this
Speaker 4: time that caused the police to inquire?
Speaker 20: It was a tenant calling off saying they had broke
Speaker 20: a broken garden planter that they hadn't gotten around to
Speaker 20: try and fix it. So the lake snapped off. It
Speaker 20: wasn't after a thought, it was his girlfriend. Wasn't even
Speaker 20: his problem.
Speaker 7: Okay, so the owner what cauled the cops because she
Speaker 7: stole it, is what she's saying.
Speaker 4: So you loaded up what Mark's just going to keep
Speaker 4: chiming in, but I'm going to try to get fact here.
Speaker 4: What did you actually load up? What did you load up?
Speaker 20: So so actually their friend.
Speaker 4: No, no, Christine, Christine please, Christine please, what exactly did
Speaker 4: you load up and take to the dump that caused
Speaker 4: the problem.
Speaker 20: It was a broken garden planter, tipped over with no
Speaker 20: leg again with weeds growing out of it, and it
Speaker 20: was against the gas meters.
Speaker 4: Okay, after you took it to the dump, the person
Speaker 4: who lived there called the police or did someone else?
Speaker 20: The person who is on the lease. Okay, the police,
Speaker 20: but it's not his and it was a month later.
Speaker 20: He didn't even know what was gone after almost a year.
Speaker 4: Okay, were you let me ask you some Christine. Were
Speaker 4: you charged with a crime?
Speaker 20: I was charged with general steps for a person who
Speaker 20: knowingly takes the property of value of another without with it.
Speaker 4: Okay, I get it. Okay, so the tenant, the tenant
Speaker 4: called police. Did the police actually charge.
Speaker 17: You one cop?
Speaker 20: Yes, would not listen to the common areas?
Speaker 4: Okay, got it, I get it. I get listen. I
Speaker 4: don't want your I just want to know what happened.
Speaker 4: I know your opinion. It was wrong and it was
Speaker 4: civil and they shouldn't have done it, and it wasn't theft,
Speaker 4: and you had no intent. I get that. I'm trying
Speaker 4: to get facts here. So one month later this happened.
Speaker 4: Were you convicted of this?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 20: So what is going on is the officer told me
Speaker 20: if I didn't answer his questions, he was gonna handcuff
Speaker 20: me and drag me to jail, and then he lied
Speaker 20: to two other police officers.
Speaker 4: So listen, Christine, did this go to trial or was
Speaker 4: this dismissed? Or is it still pending.
Speaker 20: It's still pending, and we're going to trial.
Speaker 4: And now when you say we is the h hold
Speaker 4: on is the HOA defending you?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well it seems to me listen, listen, Christine, it's
Speaker 4: really Christine. It seems to me that if you were
Speaker 4: working with the h o A and the HUA is
Speaker 4: defending you, and the police are calling this theft.
Speaker 7: I mean, I have never heard of an h o
Speaker 7: A that has the ability to come on my yard
Speaker 7: and remove, for example, a couch from my front yard
Speaker 7: without some kind of judgment of some Well.
Speaker 4: I have no idea this. What kind of h o
Speaker 4: A can go remove stuff from your brother? Hold on with?
Speaker 4: This was this planter Christine? Where Christine Christine was the
Speaker 4: planter in a common area? Yes, it was, Okay, I
Speaker 4: don't see how they don't. They don't convict real thieves,
Speaker 4: let alone people with the h o A and Mark.
Speaker 4: Even if this is an HOA that's overly ambitious, let's say,
Speaker 4: and they're they're even if they're jerks, this is clearly
Speaker 4: not a robbery or a burglary. For God's sakes, I mean,
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I go back, I go back to how the phone
Speaker 7: call started she's got a problem with something on the ballot,
Speaker 7: and it led up to she's been arrested. I don't
Speaker 7: believe a damn word, she says, the way she led
Speaker 7: the conversation.
Speaker 2: I haven't.
Speaker 20: I am not there arrested. I was cited with a ticket.
Speaker 4: I can't tell you fair enough was charged.
Speaker 7: She was charged with her But being so elusive about
Speaker 7: the real issue is insane.
Speaker 20: No, No, it's not the real issue.
Speaker 7: Is they grow three to four percent a year over year,
Speaker 7: and you don't think twenty cents more should be put towards.
Speaker 4: The cops because Chris, they wrote you a ticket. Christine
Speaker 4: did the d is the DA Christine is the district
Speaker 4: attorney choosing to move forward with this?
Speaker 20: Well, this is the funny part. I don't even have
Speaker 20: a picture of the item to prove of it's a value.
Speaker 4: I'm just asking you a question. I just asked a question.
Speaker 4: Is the district attorney? Is the district attorney moving forward?
Speaker 20: Yes, they won't drop it yet, but we're gonna send
Speaker 20: him a memo because they have no proof at.
Speaker 4: Okay, here's what I want you to do, Christine, do
Speaker 4: me a favor. Seriously, I do believe this is a
Speaker 4: waste of police time. However, I don't believe that's a
Speaker 4: reason to vote against the police and their additional funding.
Speaker 4: Do you understand I both. I do agree, though, that
Speaker 4: this is ridiculous because real theft very seldom gets prosecuted.
Speaker 4: I recall some people down in castle Rock driving away
Speaker 4: from a supermarket with a load of Yes. Doesn't that
Speaker 4: tell you there must be way more to this? Because
Speaker 4: I agree that I.
Speaker 7: Can't imagine the castle Rock police giving any kind of
Speaker 7: crap about a plan. I know it's broken. There is
Speaker 7: way the hell more to this. Well, that's why I
Speaker 7: asked her to call me up with.
Speaker 4: Please share. But Christine, why don't you share with us
Speaker 4: instead of editorializing? How what else is involved in this?
Speaker 20: So I got all the body cams I got. We
Speaker 20: asked it during discovery for all of the dispatch. The
Speaker 20: officer obviously has come out to I must have met
Speaker 20: this officer Starvis before, because he kept telling them, Oh,
Speaker 20: she's the president, she can't be harassed. Don't worry. These
Speaker 20: tenants came up to me and literally told me they
Speaker 20: were going to kick my ass, and I called the
Speaker 20: cops came to my door. I cooperated as a representative
Speaker 20: in my official capacity and told them, listen, I'm representing
Speaker 20: the HOA. There's no crime here. Can I please charge?
Speaker 20: These people were threatening to kick my ass. I don't
Speaker 20: know who they are, these tenants, and he's fucked so
Speaker 20: he basically has some kind of bias that everybody hates
Speaker 20: the HOA president whatever.
Speaker 4: You know. Listen, Christina, as I said, even if it's
Speaker 4: an HOA on steroids, and I don't like a lot
Speaker 4: of Hua's, I still, you know, I understand. I don't.
Speaker 4: I think it's a waste of police time. But I
Speaker 4: don't know all the story. As Mark said, there could
Speaker 4: be way more than this than I know. So do
Speaker 4: me a favor. Okay, I'm gonna ask. I'm gonna ask
Speaker 4: a Deputy d to get the police report on this.
Speaker 4: And uh, hold on, Christine, do you have a case Christine?
Speaker 4: Do you have a case number?
Speaker 20: I do, Tom, I will email it to your email.
Speaker 20: I don't have it on me.
Speaker 4: Okay, good, I will. I will look into it. I
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Speaker 4: Deputy Doc has a comment on the election. Go ahead,
Speaker 4: Deputy dot.
Speaker 17: Provedent.
Speaker 4: But what's that, sir? Go ahead?
Speaker 17: But if anybody is on the fence, it's sit down
Speaker 17: ticket that I want you to think about. All you
Speaker 17: will have to do is go to YouTube and just
Speaker 17: search for Senate Judici shary confirmations. You will not believe
Speaker 17: the incompetent socialistic judges that the Democrats are trying to
Speaker 17: put into circuit and district courts, which are going to
Speaker 17: affect your day to day life much more than who's president.
Speaker 17: So I suggest that if you're so not sure, just
Speaker 17: google a couple of those Senate Judiciary hearings to see
Speaker 17: what kind of people they're trying to put on the bench.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, give me an example of what how do
Speaker 4: you find out that they're incompetent? I'm serious.
Speaker 17: Well, you watch the questions that the senators asked of them.
Speaker 17: There's one I forget her name, but the highest that
Speaker 17: she's ever been is a judge in a trans a
Speaker 17: court and they're nominating her for district court judgeship.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that seems like she's skipping a few stairs.
Speaker 17: A lot of the people are out and out socialists. Colm,
Speaker 17: It's really scary. Well kind of people are putting on
Speaker 17: the bench, and I think that affects us much more
Speaker 17: than who's president. So all I'm saying is just watch
Speaker 17: a couple of these hearings.
Speaker 4: But Doc, I followed you all the way up to
Speaker 4: the end.
Speaker 7: Let me tell you someone can shut that border off immediately.
Speaker 7: That's Trump. He did it before, He'll do it again.
Speaker 7: And I think that's the worst thing going on. What
Speaker 7: do you think of the argument? I get this argument
Speaker 7: all the time. I'd like to ask your question again.
Speaker 7: This is on issues, and they say that. They always
Speaker 7: say that Trump killed the bipartisan It would have given
Speaker 7: amnesty to about a million people that they already let in.
Speaker 7: Is the main reason the Republicans wouldn't touch it. Trump
Speaker 7: wasn't in power at the time. It has nothing to
Speaker 7: do with them. They weren't going to agree to give
Speaker 7: amnesty to all those people instead.
Speaker 4: Of forget that several Democrats supposed to be voted against
Speaker 4: it too. Yeah, it wouldn't have passed anyhow.
Speaker 15: And it also allowed five thousand a month back into
Speaker 15: this country.
Speaker 4: Yeah every month.
Speaker 7: It might have been three thousand, but it allowed a
Speaker 7: certain amount of people to come in all the time. Tom,
Speaker 7: That's why they didn't get voted on. But the news
Speaker 7: won't let you know that because they're all fake news.
Speaker 17: But Mark, I'm talking about other issues like crime.
Speaker 2: Doc.
Speaker 4: I agree with you one hundred percent.
Speaker 7: When you you were just basically you made the point,
Speaker 7: and you know, I just disagree with you that this
Speaker 7: these judges are more important than the president.
Speaker 4: I totally disagree with that aspect.
Speaker 17: I didn't say it were more important. I didn't want
Speaker 17: to get into a discussion with Tom or you anybody
Speaker 17: else about who'd vote for for president.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well I'll tell people if you don't vote for Trump,
Speaker 7: your nuts, okay. And there's not one person, there's no
Speaker 7: one person involved in this conversation that's not voting for Trump.
Speaker 4: So why not tell people who you're voting for? Mark?
Speaker 4: Why do you feel? First of all, you know, it's
Speaker 4: not that I don't want to tell people who I'm
Speaker 4: voting for. I don't want people thinking when they tune
Speaker 4: into this show, I'm trying to tell them how to
Speaker 4: think and how to vote.
Speaker 7: Well, you don't, and after next, after tomorrow, none of
Speaker 7: it's going to matter anyhow, Right, three.
Speaker 4: Go ahead.
Speaker 17: That's why I'm telling people to just watch the Senate.
Speaker 4: No, but you guys, No, no, no, no, no, let me explain something.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna I decided, you know what, truly, I'm
Speaker 4: not going to try to control what you think. I mean,
Speaker 4: what you say, Doc, you can say whatever you want,
Speaker 4: like Mark does, just go. I don't care. I really don't.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't want to try. I'm not going
Speaker 4: to censor you guys. I mean that that's a little
Speaker 4: hypocritical too, if I censor people, if I.
Speaker 17: Had people about I just made a point about the
Speaker 17: down ticket, thinking about who you vote for for Senate
Speaker 17: and representatives.
Speaker 7: Hey, don't you, guys, And I'm asking you, guys, I mean,
Speaker 7: I guess. If you don't want to answer, don't answer.
Speaker 7: But don't you typically vote down ticket by party? Or
Speaker 7: how do you guys do it? I'm curious. I've never
Speaker 7: asked either of you.
Speaker 4: Okay, go ahead, doc, I usually do.
Speaker 17: But you know the thing, I have a poker group
Speaker 17: with about ten guys that are all professionals on businesses, lawyers,
Speaker 17: and every one of them and there are two lawyers
Speaker 17: in the group, everyone from breeze. That is, it's ridiculous
Speaker 17: for average people to vote on judges who have no idea.
Speaker 4: That's true. That's really true. That's true.
Speaker 17: So he just said, leaves a blank and it's and
Speaker 17: if the if the Bar Association or I don't know
Speaker 17: who super was judges, if there's an issue, you'll deal
Speaker 17: with it. We have no concept of which judges are
Speaker 17: good of bad.
Speaker 4: That's absolutely right. We don't. And and really low information
Speaker 4: voting is probably the majority of our electric When it
Speaker 4: comes to any issue.
Speaker 7: They agree. They get their news from TikTok. I mean
Speaker 7: I agree.
Speaker 4: Well, or or from one side or the other.
Speaker 7: Well, look at the Denver voters that voted on the Gallagher.
Speaker 7: Then they were shocked when their property their property taxes
Speaker 7: went up fifty percent. They were like, vote what happened? Well,
Speaker 7: you dummy, you voted for it.
Speaker 4: One thing I really invite, I swear to God, and
Speaker 4: I want someone progressive to call and to tell me
Speaker 4: what they think and how they are voting. If they
Speaker 4: want to, I will treat them with respect and let
Speaker 4: them err. I mean, here's what I say. I don't
Speaker 4: look when you said, Mark, how do I vote? Down ticket?
Speaker 4: How do I vote? Okay? I used to think you
Speaker 4: vote for the person and you don't vote. You vote
Speaker 4: for the person. But now I say this, that's really
Speaker 4: not accurate. You got to vote for the platform because
Speaker 4: even if you have someone that you like, unless they
Speaker 4: will truly truly vote against their own party's platform on
Speaker 4: major like Liz Cheney. I agree. No, I'm saying, unless
Speaker 4: you have someone Mark, please don't exaggerate what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Here's what I'm saying. I wasn't exaggerating. I agree with you. Okay.
Speaker 4: If you believe in, let's say the Republican platform, let's
Speaker 4: just say you do, and you know that there's a
Speaker 4: Democrat who will take issue by issue and not just
Speaker 4: go straight Democrat, then you might vote for that person.
Speaker 4: But I was a Republican. If you think there's a
Speaker 4: Republican who's waffling and will not vote for the Republican platform,
Speaker 4: if you want the platform, you look at because really
Speaker 4: and truly, that is what's going to rule the agenda.
Speaker 4: It's their platform's I used to think it was the individual.
Speaker 4: It's not. It's the platform. I don't care what Harris
Speaker 4: says or what Trump says they want to do personally,
Speaker 4: because the platform, the party will not let them and
Speaker 4: the majority of people are going to rule. And so
Speaker 4: if you want to get your and I don't believe
Speaker 4: in a lopsided party, no matter what, We've been lopsided
Speaker 4: so long. Right now on a socialist in Caloracra progressive platform,
Speaker 4: it's bad. I like discussion, I like debate. I like
Speaker 4: when it's on a razor's edge and it takes skill
Speaker 4: and it takes honesty to get something passed. Do you
Speaker 4: remember when you do?
Speaker 7: You remember you and I back in the day, early
Speaker 7: two thousand's, late nineties. You know, we would go down
Speaker 7: for dinner to the sixteenth Street mall. We never saw
Speaker 7: homeless anywhere. You didn't hear about theft. Colorado wasn't the
Speaker 7: number one place in the country where cars were stolen.
Speaker 7: I mean this, This entire state has gone to hell
Speaker 7: under the current administration.
Speaker 4: Yes, it absolutely has. It absolutely has. And unfortunately, if
Speaker 4: you look around the country, in every progressive city there is,
Speaker 4: they have rampant crime. They have terrible economies, businesses are
Speaker 4: closing and exiting. If that's just a fact, folks, I'm sorry,
Speaker 4: that's a fact. You want to prove me wrong, then
Speaker 4: tell me someone who's thriving under that. And you know
Speaker 4: what's really funny is CBS Morning News Sunday Morning. CBS
Speaker 4: Sunday Morning did a story about Venezuela and they did
Speaker 4: a story about how that country is one of the
Speaker 4: richest resources for oil and the poorest and people can't
Speaker 4: afford to eat. I'm telling you, they did an social
Speaker 4: story here. This is when they said the downfall started.
Speaker 4: They said themselves with Hugo Chavez, and then it went
Speaker 4: and it continued to go downhill. They never once mentioned, never, once,
Speaker 4: the word socialism. Never once. Can you imagine doing a
Speaker 4: story on the decay of Venezuela and how it went
Speaker 4: to hell and never mention the word socialism because every
Speaker 4: single politician who did it to them were socialists. They
Speaker 4: never mentioned it once. How can you be a journalist
Speaker 4: and do a story about the decay and fall of
Speaker 4: a country who elected Chavez and the rest of them
Speaker 4: and never once mentioned socialism? We got more coming up.
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Speaker 4: And Mark, when you mentioned is this a group investment
Speaker 4: in all that that, I can see why people think that,
Speaker 4: But now you understand it better that each person is
Speaker 4: individually handled through Vestera to find a property for you.
Speaker 7: You're basically paying them a little money because they are
Speaker 7: very good at going out and finding undervalued properties that
Speaker 7: are basically ready to rent out and hopefully you make
Speaker 7: some good money on them in two or three years
Speaker 7: when you sell them.
Speaker 4: But the really good part is that you don't pay
Speaker 4: them ongoing funds. I mean, in fact, I asked Barry Miller,
Speaker 4: Vestera Turnkey, that's like a finder's fee. Well, that's all
Speaker 4: they get is a fee going in and a fee
Speaker 4: when you sell if you want to sell through them,
Speaker 4: and there's no obligation. I don't understand truly, Mark, and
Speaker 4: I mean this, I don't understand how he makes enough
Speaker 4: money on each property or each client to do that.
Speaker 4: If that's all they pay. I mean truly, Now they
Speaker 4: pay that three sixty if they want to have the
Speaker 4: stereotake all the phone calls and manage and micromanage it.
Speaker 4: But that's pennies three sixty a year. And then and
Speaker 4: then they also have management companies that don't make He
Speaker 4: doesn't make a spread from the management company. They don't
Speaker 4: pay him anything. He doesn't mark up management. The management
Speaker 4: company is a pass through. Everything done is a pass through.
Speaker 4: The only money they make is on the way in
Speaker 4: and on the way out. Is that right?
Speaker 5: That's correct?
Speaker 4: I mean, and I do mean that. Practically it doesn't
Speaker 4: seem like enough.
Speaker 6: It works because of there are a lot of smart
Speaker 6: investors who want to build their nest eggs, build their wealth.
Speaker 6: And its volume okay, okay, but it's not huge volume
Speaker 6: because every consumer gets attention. But it's volume. We're doing
Speaker 6: fine financially, but they're good.
Speaker 4: But if you think about a sixty thousand dollars investment minimum,
Speaker 4: if you have somebody investing sixty or six hundred, they
Speaker 4: get the same attention and you and and the one
Speaker 4: who's paying six hundred buys multiple multiple multiproperty, they're there
Speaker 4: or or whatever. They're buying a lot of properties, they're
Speaker 4: going to take up way more time. But you are
Speaker 4: making essentially the fee going in and going out. Okay,
Speaker 4: and the people buying multiple properties you're making more money
Speaker 4: on but you're spending as much time with somebody who
Speaker 4: buys one property.
Speaker 5: Correct.
Speaker 4: Okay. I don't know how the model works now. I
Speaker 4: mean I'm saying it does because I believe you and
Speaker 4: I you're truly golden in my eyes as far as
Speaker 4: as far as credibility. It's amazing to me that you
Speaker 4: can do this. I don't know at what point, mark,
Speaker 4: but doesn't that Isn't that what amazes you? That it's
Speaker 4: really a small commission coming and going that does it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 7: For if the research is as good as it sounds,
Speaker 7: and as far as I can see, the past history
Speaker 7: is great. I mean I would have no idea how
Speaker 7: to go around the country and find undervalued properties. I
Speaker 7: just would have no idea where to start. And that
Speaker 7: is something you would pay for. I mean I have
Speaker 7: no problem with that.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And then the management is cheap. His management companies
Speaker 4: are cheaper than if you had one right here doing
Speaker 4: it well.
Speaker 5: They're ten eleven percent on the monthly.
Speaker 6: Some of them are nine, right, Well, I negotiate them
Speaker 6: to nine because we're sending them enough business and that
Speaker 6: gets passed on to the consumer one hundred percent.
Speaker 7: I get a little afraid of management companies, and has
Speaker 7: nothing to do with this conversation.
Speaker 4: But I've never been a landlord.
Speaker 7: I've always thought, if I had a management company and
Speaker 7: someone calls up and says, hey, my furnace isn't blowing
Speaker 7: as hot as it was, all of a sudden, I'm
Speaker 7: going to end up with a three thousand dollars bill,
Speaker 7: and so does that?
Speaker 4: How does that work?
Speaker 5: That's why we're in the middle.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 6: We get very few of those calls because you use
Speaker 6: the term where cherry picking the right properties. However, the
Speaker 6: worst one we had was an eleven hundred dollars bill
Speaker 6: now to replace two front doors, the storm door and
Speaker 6: the other door.
Speaker 5: Long story made short. I got involved.
Speaker 6: I said, wait a minute, send me pictures of the framing.
Speaker 5: Of the inside door. And they did not need to
Speaker 5: replace the door. They had to take it off the hinges.
Speaker 6: Replace one foot of wood for the hinge. It ended
Speaker 6: up being a total cost of four hundred and forty
Speaker 6: dollars Instead of eleven hundred. But we watch our customers'
Speaker 6: properties with that kind of microscope because we're able to
Speaker 6: do it, we're good at it, and our research is
Speaker 6: stellar beyond even Marks thinking what it might be Right now, Mark,
Speaker 6: ye say that in a positive way.
Speaker 4: No, No, I understand that, and so and Mark Management
Speaker 4: come panies. You're absolutely right.
Speaker 5: Oh, they scare the hell out of me.
Speaker 7: Their brother in law's a plumber. There there are other
Speaker 7: guys are roof for next thing. You know, you're feeding
Speaker 7: all their families and you're going broke.
Speaker 4: That can happen. That can absolutely happen. And that's one
Speaker 4: of the reasons I like Barry because he only uses
Speaker 4: the ones who go with him know they're going to
Speaker 4: get business after business after business and speaking about how
Speaker 4: much business they're sending them, so they make sure they
Speaker 4: send them only the best.
Speaker 5: There's another another part of us, and I think.
Speaker 7: Let me throw this in real quick while we're talking
Speaker 7: about and throw it.
Speaker 4: Hold on, I just kid.
Speaker 7: One of the biggest parts so, no matter what, is
Speaker 7: finding that right tenant. Because if you have the right tenant,
Speaker 7: you're not going to run into a lot of these
Speaker 7: problems because they're good people.
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Speaker 4: three eight two five five. I have a question here
Speaker 4: for Barry. They want to know about damages to property
Speaker 4: and all that. Of course you have insurance, right obviously
Speaker 4: you have insurance to have a regular insurance people you
Speaker 4: work with or it's whatever city 're and I guess
Speaker 4: they have to be licensed in that state.
Speaker 5: Well they don't have to be.
Speaker 6: But we have two insurance brokers in all of our cities,
Speaker 6: and we have two here in Denver Brokers Insurance Progress
Speaker 6: and then they can shop us, so we comparatively shop
Speaker 6: also so that our customers get the best coverage, lowest price.
Speaker 4: And of course they are responsible for the for the
Speaker 4: for you know, any other damages.
Speaker 6: But more than insurance, Tom, it's picking the right property.
Speaker 5: Our buyer agents and the right tenants.
Speaker 6: But the right tenants are critical once you have the property,
Speaker 6: but the property our buyer agent team members do what
Speaker 6: we call a non inspector's inspection of the property before
Speaker 6: they ever tell us that it might be a good property.
Speaker 6: So our properties are getting two and three professional eyes
Speaker 6: looking at it before the professional inspector does their inspection.
Speaker 7: I mean we are very how many let's just say,
Speaker 7: in the last twenty years, since two thousand, how many
Speaker 7: homes have you guys bought and sold?
Speaker 6: Hundreds? Okay, okay, hundreds where now? But I had a
Speaker 6: big family issue. I was shut down for eight to
Speaker 6: nine years. I reactivated it twenty nineteen and we're still
Speaker 6: in the small hundred of properties. And we have had
Speaker 6: no properties go south on us. And here we've had
Speaker 6: one or two problems. Out of about every forty properties,
Speaker 6: we predict two we'll have a fixed up problem in
Speaker 6: the first year.
Speaker 5: Two out of forty.
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Speaker 4: problem with your career, if you want to talk about
Speaker 4: somebody lying to you, cheating, or ripping you off. Deputy
Speaker 4: Bow has a follow up on a problem that's been
Speaker 4: bugging the hell out of us, and that is this
Speaker 4: woman said she went to a gas station and somehow
Speaker 4: put red diesel in her car by mistake. But she
Speaker 4: said it wasn't her that did that. She said it
Speaker 4: came out of the regular gas tank. Well, I was
Speaker 4: told the nozzle is a different size for diesel, so
Speaker 4: she couldn't have put the diesel one in her car.
Speaker 4: It would have had to come out of the gasoline tank.
Speaker 4: But the gasoline station is saying no, no, no, oh,
Speaker 4: she did it by mistake. But what were you able
Speaker 4: to find out on this?
Speaker 18: So I made a couple of calls up there to
Speaker 18: the Sinclair station on six forty US Highway to eighty five.
Speaker 19: They denied everything about this.
Speaker 4: But I believe, Oh what does it mean? They denied
Speaker 4: everything about this?
Speaker 18: They I believe they put the red diesel fuel in
Speaker 18: the underground tank and it's being dispensed out of the
Speaker 18: regular gas pump.
Speaker 4: Now why do you believe that? Well?
Speaker 18: I believe that because the caller said she got she received.
Speaker 18: She seemed like an intelligent person. And you said so yourself, Tom,
Speaker 18: you can't put the diesel nozzle from the fuel pump
Speaker 18: into a regular regular nozzle.
Speaker 5: It's impossible.
Speaker 4: The red diesel is different than that's for the farm vehicles.
Speaker 19: Yeah, I had to look it up. I didn't.
Speaker 4: I never heard of red diesel.
Speaker 19: But I guess that's not tax next right.
Speaker 4: There, for that's right to give a break to the
Speaker 4: agricultural biz or for people using it for heat.
Speaker 18: And she broke down a few miles after she put
Speaker 18: this red diesel in her car, and it caused over
Speaker 18: twenty two hundred dollars worth of damage.
Speaker 4: But what I wanted to know is does the red
Speaker 4: diesel pump have a different sized nozzle like the regular diesel?
Speaker 4: Yes it does, Mark, You said, yes, yes it does.
Speaker 4: So then there was no way she could have gotten
Speaker 4: that in her car.
Speaker 19: I believe the red diesel is in the underground tank.
Speaker 4: Well it was. I doubt if it's still there. For
Speaker 4: goodness sakes, look at all the trouble they'd I mean,
Speaker 4: we'd be getting calls.
Speaker 18: Right, That's that's a purpose for me doing this follow up.
Speaker 18: I would like to know to our listening audience if
Speaker 18: they've had experience with this Saint Clair station up been.
Speaker 4: I was told it's in fair play, fair play.
Speaker 19: It's on six forty US Highway to eighty five.
Speaker 5: If it's a.
Speaker 4: Okay on on US two eighty five in fair play. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and there would have been quite a few places.
Speaker 18: So what I told Hannah to do is to call
Speaker 18: the Colorado Division of Oil and Public Safety.
Speaker 19: And lodge a complaint.
Speaker 5: I followed up with her.
Speaker 18: She did this Friday, and today they're sending an investigator
Speaker 18: up to this field.
Speaker 4: Station, gas station and fair play.
Speaker 19: So I was really impressed at they're going down.
Speaker 4: What would the state Oil and Gas inspector? What would
Speaker 4: they be able to find out after the fact? Do
Speaker 4: you think, Tom? I don't know.
Speaker 18: I agree maybe that all the red diesel got pumped out,
Speaker 18: but maybe I'm hoping that.
Speaker 19: Other people call in or there's other complaints.
Speaker 18: I told Hannah to ask this inspector if they've received
Speaker 18: other complaints.
Speaker 4: That, well, what did the tell me this? What did
Speaker 4: the actual gas station say to you when you called them?
Speaker 18: I called and talked to a kid and they gave
Speaker 18: me the manager and I told the manager who I was,
Speaker 18: and she sounds a little standoffish.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, well I don't.
Speaker 19: Yeah, we're looking into this.
Speaker 4: I will call you back. Okay.
Speaker 18: So I called twice so I could kind of tell
Speaker 18: in her voice that I think she kind of knew
Speaker 18: that there was something.
Speaker 4: Up about it. I bet you it wasn't the first
Speaker 4: phone call she got about She should just take them
Speaker 4: to court.
Speaker 7: I can't figure out where I'm hearing an echo in
Speaker 7: my studio.
Speaker 18: But she could take them the small claims Mark, but
Speaker 18: I think she needs some other evidence. She needs at
Speaker 18: least a couple more people that say they had the
Speaker 18: same problem.
Speaker 4: And I don't think Heaven's got a comment.
Speaker 21: Go ahead, Kevin, Yeah, you guys, Yeah, you guys had
Speaker 21: mentioned something about a bigger nozzle on diesel. Well, if
Speaker 21: you go to an in store, I'm sorry, an intown
Speaker 21: gas station that does have diesel, it's the same size nozzle.
Speaker 21: You'll find those bigger nozzles when you go to an
Speaker 21: actual truck stop to get diesel.
Speaker 4: Are you sure of that, Kevin?
Speaker 7: The Franktown Market, which is about the smallest convenience store
Speaker 7: I've ever seen, has the big green diesels I have
Speaker 7: never but Mark that frank townsh Okay, Costco, Sam's Club
Speaker 7: seven to eleven.
Speaker 4: Do they have bigger nozzles? Every single one?
Speaker 7: In fact, I would love anybody else to call in
Speaker 7: and say they don't.
Speaker 4: Okay, so Kevin is saying they don't. Now, Kevin, how
Speaker 4: do you know?
Speaker 21: I used to have a couple of diesel trucks.
Speaker 4: And and why would some of them have it and
Speaker 4: some of them not?
Speaker 21: So? So if I go up to the gas station
Speaker 21: down the street right now, it'll have a green handle
Speaker 21: and it'll have the same sized nozzle coming out as
Speaker 21: the gasoline.
Speaker 19: Does one for unleaded fuel.
Speaker 5: So good, someone.
Speaker 21: Unleaded premium so diesel green handle or green green nozzle pump,
Speaker 21: and it's got the same size nozzle as a regular gasoline.
Speaker 4: Can you name one place we can go and check
Speaker 4: that out?
Speaker 19: I've never heard of it.
Speaker 21: Do you want me to go check one out right now?
Speaker 11: For it?
Speaker 4: Which do me a favor if you could, that would
Speaker 4: be excellent. I'd like to know that.
Speaker 21: I'll give us a photo go down the street.
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 9: Cool?
Speaker 4: Thank you? Hey, listen man, I'm not challenging you. I'm
Speaker 4: asking you to see if that's possible, Kevin, So thank you.
Speaker 4: I appreciate that. Three oh three seven one three talk
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Speaker 4: I'm Tom Martine. You're a troubleshooter. I got a I
Speaker 4: got some texts here. One guy says, I'm a fuel hauler,
Speaker 4: and I know small town gas stations have the same
Speaker 4: size nozzles. Truck stops have bigger nozzles for higher flows.
Speaker 4: Every once in a while, one of us might make
Speaker 4: a mistake and put the wrong fuel in the wrong tank.
Speaker 4: Most of the time we catch it immediately. Sometimes nobody
Speaker 4: notices now, so that is it's still possible she got
Speaker 4: the wrong fuel it's also possible she fueled the wrong nozzle,
Speaker 4: if in fact that's true. My texts are running fifty
Speaker 4: to fifty on whether it's a larger nozzle or not.
Speaker 4: Some are saying truck stops have larger nozzles, but regular
Speaker 4: gasoline stations that don't accommodate trucks do not have a
Speaker 4: larger nozzle. I can't tell you one way or another.
Speaker 4: We have a guy going out to check a local
Speaker 4: station to see. In any case, here's the deal.
Speaker 7: I wonder whatever here I'm gonna call. I mean, you
Speaker 7: choose so we can do this right. I put gas
Speaker 7: stations near me. I have Conicco, Safeway fuel station, all
Speaker 7: to convenience. Call any of them, layer, well, no, you no,
Speaker 7: you pick one, pick one. I don't care who it is, Sinclair,
Speaker 7: all to Safeway or knic Goo.
Speaker 4: Which one Let's call Sinclair? Since this was a Sincli,
Speaker 4: I'm calling Sinclair. Yeah, let's see three zero three seven
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Speaker 4: Another one said I've never seen one with a regular
Speaker 4: sign his nozzle. Hmm. Anyway, Barry Miller is with us
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Speaker 7: That's so my daughter couldn't mess up and accidentally put
Speaker 7: the uh, the diesel in there because it won't take
Speaker 7: your station.
Speaker 4: Is that correct? He's talking to a gas station. No,
Speaker 4: it wouldn't fit so well to see what do you
Speaker 4: what he finds out there? Three O three seven one
Speaker 4: three talk seven one three eight two five five. But
Speaker 4: of course somebody says if the wrong feels put in
Speaker 4: the wrong tank, receipt won't tell you anything. No.
Speaker 7: Well, the Sinclair, the one you told me to call,
Speaker 7: says the diesel will not go period, will not go
Speaker 7: into the smaller gasoline when it's bigger. I can call
Speaker 7: fifty more if you want to choose them.
Speaker 4: Mark, I'm just going by what I'm being told here.
Speaker 4: I'm not.
Speaker 7: I know, I've never been. Just my entire life has
Speaker 7: been opposite. I never see diesel trucks, and I've owned
Speaker 7: a ton of gas vehicles and I've never not seen it.
Speaker 4: I've never not seen it. I've never seen a regular
Speaker 4: nozzle for a diesel fuel. Now, somebody says the receipt
Speaker 4: won't tell a story. Yes it will. It will tell
Speaker 4: us which tank she took it from, not if there
Speaker 4: was the wrong fuel in it. Because if she has
Speaker 4: a receipt for that day in that time that shows
Speaker 4: she was being charged for unleaded gasoline, then we know
Speaker 4: she did not make the mistake. It was most likely
Speaker 4: in the tank, That's what I'm saying. And it shows
Speaker 4: that she was getting being charged for diesel, then maybe
Speaker 4: she had the wrong one in there. Yes, what Tom,
Speaker 4: I asked?
Speaker 18: Yeah, the Sinclair station would not give her a receipt.
Speaker 18: But I instructed the caller to get a hold of
Speaker 18: her credit card company and he will demand this station
Speaker 18: find the receipt.
Speaker 4: Kevin is calling, Kevin is calling us. Kevin, go ahead.
Speaker 4: He went out to check, Kevin, what did you find?
Speaker 21: Well, I went to the nearest Shell station and they
Speaker 21: had gas and diesel on the same pretty much unit.
Speaker 21: Diesel big green handle, regular gas, a black handle, and
Speaker 21: the nozzle might be a fraction of an inch bigger
Speaker 21: than the gas.
Speaker 4: A lad well that's what we were taking. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: so won't it won't fit. I mean you could have,
Speaker 4: you could have tried it. It won't fit in an
Speaker 4: unleaded tank, is what we're being told.
Speaker 21: That's that's not the case.
Speaker 4: What do you mean that's not the case. You just
Speaker 4: told us. It's bigger.
Speaker 21: It's a fraction of an inch bigger. It's not like
Speaker 21: you see when you go to a truck stop.
Speaker 4: Okay, still not fill them. It might be, but it's
Speaker 4: still big enough.
Speaker 7: Did you literally try. I would like to see a postener.
Speaker 7: I understand what you're saying. If I go to a
Speaker 7: truck stop, my RV takes two hundred gallons, so when
Speaker 7: I go, I fill up on both sides at the
Speaker 7: same time. Those are actually bigger than the green handles
Speaker 7: at smaller gas stations. But the one at smaller gas
Speaker 7: stations still will not run into the hole.
Speaker 4: Exactly. That's what I'm getting at. And not to create
Speaker 4: an argument here, sir, but did you try Kevin to
Speaker 4: put that green diesel one into your unleaded tank. He's
Speaker 4: got a diesel Oh, he's got a deal, sir.
Speaker 21: No, No, I have a gasser now, okay, I don't
Speaker 21: have a diesel now.
Speaker 4: And you while you were there, why didn't you try
Speaker 4: putting it in there just to see?
Speaker 21: Well, I just took pictures of both nozzles, and they're
Speaker 21: like I said, the diesel is just a fraction.
Speaker 4: Of a just enough bigger, just enough bigger not to
Speaker 4: go into your unletted tank.
Speaker 21: I did not try it.
Speaker 4: I shall okay, that's okay, that but thank you for
Speaker 4: running down there. And again, people, if you're out and about,
Speaker 4: let us know. I've never seen ever, I've never seen
Speaker 4: ever one that does not or excuse me, that fits.
Speaker 4: I don't think they fit. So anyway, if you get
Speaker 4: a chance and you're out and about, give us a call.
Speaker 4: Three oh three seven one three talk seven one three
Speaker 4: eight two five five. All right, Barry, we have a
Speaker 4: question for you on this on the webinar. The webinar, uh,
Speaker 4: do you take two way calls so people ask questions?
Speaker 6: Well, the webinar is forty five minutes, so we've gon
Speaker 6: you don't take questions afterwards?
Speaker 5: We do.
Speaker 6: We take calls, emails and texts afterwards for hours.
Speaker 4: All right, By the way, we have a tanker driver,
Speaker 4: he says, Jesse, what can you tell us, sir.
Speaker 14: Okay, yes, hi Tom, thanks for digging a call.
Speaker 4: Yes, so I am on.
Speaker 14: At first, I was a against Mark because I am
Speaker 14: a tanker driver of twenty five hundred gallons up to
Speaker 14: six thousand gallons, and a lot of times I fill
Speaker 14: up at the stations that don't have truck driver fuel,
Speaker 14: and the novels do appear to be the same size. However,
Speaker 14: I just drove my car to a station that has
Speaker 14: diesel right next to unleaded, tried to put the nozzle
Speaker 14: into my unleaded tank and it wouldn't fit.
Speaker 4: Uh huh, So it's just a hair bigger enough not
Speaker 4: to fit.
Speaker 14: Honestly, I thought that it was the same size too,
Speaker 14: without actually trying in my own car, because they do
Speaker 14: look about the same size. But I'm going to go
Speaker 14: to another station right now.
Speaker 4: Right cool? Thank you? Justsin Yeah, that's what we thought.
Speaker 4: You're right, and Mark, I think he made a distinction
Speaker 4: for the guy that wrote to us saying no, no, no,
Speaker 4: they're for high volume, as Mark pointed out.
Speaker 7: And I remember, the whole thing is absurd. I've been
Speaker 7: to a thousand gas stations.
Speaker 4: No, no, I understand, I understand. As Market pointed out,
Speaker 4: and I experienced with my RV back in the day.
Speaker 4: They do have high flow pumps that have giant nozzles
Speaker 4: for them to have. Then they have regular diesel nozzles,
Speaker 4: but the regular diesel nozzles are still too big to
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Speaker 4: My god, I've never had more people texting me in
Speaker 4: the last few days. If the nozzle doesn't fit, you
Speaker 4: must must to quit. Now here's the deal. The woman
Speaker 4: filled up with red diesel she claims she put in Now,
Speaker 4: obviously people do make mistakes and tanks. I think that's
Speaker 4: what happened to her. I think she really did use
Speaker 4: the unleaded pump and it did deliver diesel. I do
Speaker 4: believe that happened. But then it got to a general
Speaker 4: discussion on when you use a diesel. If she wanted
Speaker 4: to do it by mistake, if she lifted the diesel
Speaker 4: by mistake the nozzle, would it fit in her unleaded car.
Speaker 4: Almost everyone says it absolutely will not fit in an
Speaker 4: unleaded tank. But we've had two people so far say
Speaker 4: that they went to a station and they're the same
Speaker 4: exact size and they will fit. One guy went so
Speaker 4: far as to say he went to a Maverick and
Speaker 4: the same fuel comes out of the same nozzle. Whether
Speaker 4: you get unleaded E eighty five.
Speaker 7: Or diesel, it comes out of or three kinds of gasoline.
Speaker 4: No, I am never got a suggestion.
Speaker 7: And wait, wait, wait, that same moron also at first
Speaker 7: said there was a green handle, and then he said
Speaker 7: they were all the same. So we're to believe you
Speaker 7: can go to this Maverick station and fill up with
Speaker 7: three kinds of unleaded E eighty five or diesel, all
Speaker 7: from the exact same hose and nozzle to any vehicle
Speaker 7: you put in there. That is the dumbest thing I've
Speaker 7: ever heard.
Speaker 19: Yes, I have a perfect suggestion.
Speaker 18: Yeah, us call this inspector that we sent up to
Speaker 18: this Sinclair station tomorrow the next day, have him come
Speaker 18: on the air, since he's an authority at the State
Speaker 18: of Colorado, and have him explain it to us.
Speaker 4: But we'll still have people tell us, well, that's not
Speaker 4: what I saw. I guarantee you they're wrong. They lie.
Speaker 4: They're not wrong, they literally lie. Andrew, what's your Andrew?
Speaker 4: What is your thing? Go ahead, Andrew.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I came in in the middle of this, but
Speaker 13: the only thought that occurred to me is that it
Speaker 13: depends on the age of your vehicle. I think these
Speaker 13: older vehicles, the newer vehicles. Yeah, you you can't put
Speaker 13: a diesel into it, But if you have an older vehicle,
Speaker 13: I think the where you put you know what.
Speaker 4: Actually, he's right, he's right. Those older vehicles did not
Speaker 4: have a choke down. He's right about that. I mean
Speaker 4: I remember I had an old.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but her but her car was a twenty thirteen.
Speaker 7: When he's his older vehicles, I mean you're going back
Speaker 7: to like the seventies.
Speaker 4: No, no, I don't know how old. But he's right,
Speaker 4: maybe when they started making unleaded fuel man, And I
Speaker 4: was going to say probably back when they had regular
Speaker 4: But that's a good observation though, I appreciate that. Robert.
Speaker 4: What's your what's your take on this? Robert?
Speaker 11: Go ahead, So so I kind of working in the street.
Speaker 11: So anyways, red diesel is strictly for like heavy equipment, right,
Speaker 11: and we know that anything anything that's off road. So
Speaker 11: if there was so, so, gas stations cannot sell red
Speaker 11: diesel because it's not legal for the streets or the highways.
Speaker 4: No, they can.
Speaker 7: They can sell it, but they can only sell it
Speaker 7: or well they can sell it to anybody.
Speaker 4: If you choose to fill up with it and get
Speaker 4: caught in a farming community, you face massive Roberts. Are
Speaker 4: you saying, Robert, that red diesel is not available at
Speaker 4: gas stations?
Speaker 5: It shouldn't be.
Speaker 4: Well, it is, it was part of it.
Speaker 7: It is in any rural area, in any state, of course,
Speaker 7: it is. How do you think tractors and combines, how
Speaker 7: do you think.
Speaker 22: They fill up.
Speaker 7: I'm talking about Yeah, that's correct, that's you're You're absolutely correct.
Speaker 4: In Denver, you're not going to find it, agreed.
Speaker 11: Yes, So this is what I didn't thought, I haven't
Speaker 11: cut anything.
Speaker 13: But you.
Speaker 7: Had the whole you you really He's right though he
Speaker 7: missed the red diesel part of this last week.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right though it is not made for street vehicles.
Speaker 4: And where is the station?
Speaker 2: Tom?
Speaker 4: I forget, it's definitely rule. Yeah, I gotta find it.
Speaker 4: I forget what city, but it's Farmland. Glenn, let's take yours.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, Glenn, what's going on?
Speaker 23: Hey, when they started talking about it being the off
Speaker 23: road diesel, there is a reasonably good chance that that
Speaker 23: could have one of those smaller nozzles on either kerosene
Speaker 23: or die diesel. Dye diesel not not taxed for the highway,
Speaker 23: and it's cheaper, and it's a little different situation, and
Speaker 23: it's not intended for vehicles they're going down the road.
Speaker 23: That's for you.
Speaker 4: Are you saying the diesel? You're saying the red diesel
Speaker 4: could possibly have a regular size nozzle, the red part.
Speaker 7: Well, hold on, hold on, let me, Glenn, Glenn, let
Speaker 7: me let me shede a little light on what you're saying.
Speaker 7: At this particular gas station, we've only we've already done
Speaker 7: the research. You can get the red diesel at the
Speaker 7: same pump. It's got a separate nozzle along with the diesel,
Speaker 7: but you can choose red diesel instead of the green diesel,
Speaker 7: or of course, go to the black nozzle and go
Speaker 7: to the gasoline.
Speaker 23: Wow, that's interesting because you never I mean, if they
Speaker 23: catch a trace a die in your tank and your
Speaker 23: motor carryo. Yeah, they'll they will pull your truck off
Speaker 23: the freeway and impound it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you'll wish you never did it.
Speaker 23: Oh yeah, And you can't get rid of that stuff.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 23: That di will lasts for a couple of hundred gallons even.
Speaker 4: A little bit, oh, even after you're out.
Speaker 23: Oh yeah, yeah, if you put a substantial bit in it,
Speaker 23: I mean a gallon's probably enough to turn a forty
Speaker 23: gallon tank red.
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Speaker 4: eight thirty seven eighty eight. And by the way, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna go to the calls now, because this diesel thing
Speaker 4: is lit up a nerve here and I think the
Speaker 4: general consensus is they're not the same size, period. I mean,
Speaker 4: there are people getting very emotional about us, saying that
Speaker 4: the guy's an idiot and maybe he should try to
Speaker 4: see where else it fits. We won't go into that anyway, Ken,
Speaker 4: what did your com What was your comment? Ken?
Speaker 24: Well, first off, I'm a longtime listener and we have
Speaker 24: a mutual friend Anthony from Staten Island.
Speaker 4: Antony. Yeah, I know Antony. Yeah, not Anthony. It's any right,
Speaker 4: of course I do.
Speaker 24: His name is Anthony.
Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, he moved back to New York. Oh he did. Okay,
Speaker 4: tell him to call the show one.
Speaker 23: Day, you know, I will.
Speaker 24: I talked to him about once a year.
Speaker 4: So tell any to call a show. That's what Italians
Speaker 4: called Anthony Anthony and yeah he's Anthony. Yeah, So go ahead.
Speaker 4: What's happened? What do you think about the diesel man?
Speaker 24: Well, I got a buddy that had me come by
Speaker 24: his house and pick up ten gallons of diesel that
Speaker 24: his kid had accidentally put in their audie. Yeah, he
Speaker 24: had to take it to his shop and have.
Speaker 2: It drained out.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 24: And my next comment is call your car guys on
Speaker 24: they're on on Friday. Let's tell you how many times
Speaker 24: they've had to pump out the diesel out of gas cars.
Speaker 4: But that's because of the mistake they made by filling
Speaker 4: the tank, right, that's not that's not the noble put it.
Speaker 9: In the well.
Speaker 24: But you got to put it in the hole to
Speaker 24: get it in the tape.
Speaker 4: No, no, what if Ken? But Ken, it's possible that
Speaker 4: the guy delivering the fuel put it in the wrong tank,
Speaker 4: is what I mean.
Speaker 7: Or it didn't fit in the stupid kid just pulled
Speaker 7: the handle.
Speaker 4: I think what happened most of the time. I think
Speaker 4: if you put the wrong fuel in because the nozzles
Speaker 4: are different sizes, I think it's because the gas station
Speaker 4: has the wrong fuel in their unleaded tank. Anyway, Ken,
Speaker 4: thanks for calling. Say hi to Antony. Mike, go ahead,
Speaker 4: what is your comment?
Speaker 5: Mike?
Speaker 22: Hey, Yeah, two things I used to hold. I used
Speaker 22: to haul gasoline for a living, okay. And yeah, no
Speaker 22: way that you can cross cross dump red red diesel
Speaker 22: off road diesel.
Speaker 17: Okay.
Speaker 22: There's just too many checks you gotta go to when
Speaker 22: you're when you're delivering into a gas station.
Speaker 4: Wait wait, wait, are you saying it's unlikely that there
Speaker 4: was red diesel in the unleaded tank.
Speaker 22: I'd say its virtually impossible. Why it's two different trucks
Speaker 22: when you're hauling gasoline or diesel or off road diesel. Right, Typically,
Speaker 22: if you're delivering gasoline, you might have three different grades,
Speaker 22: and you're filling up you know, three different tanks. Okay,
Speaker 22: If you're diesel, that's all your hauling, pure and simple.
Speaker 22: All four or five of your compartments will have diesel.
Speaker 22: If it's off road diesel, it's a completely different truck.
Speaker 22: We're not even allowed to like unload a regular load
Speaker 22: of diesel and then go fill up with off road diesel.
Speaker 22: It's a completely different truck.
Speaker 4: Well, Mike, that still doesn't tell me you couldn't go
Speaker 4: in the wrong tank though. On the ground. We're out
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