WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:03.399 Ah, somebody give me a doctor. Make sure they're from 2 00:00:03.480 --> 00:00:07.759 Reclaim Wellness Group. That's where I'm going to for all 3 00:00:07.799 --> 00:00:12.240 of my many, many issues as I bring in Jessica. 4 00:00:12.359 --> 00:00:16.440 Also doctor street Russell my doctor. Oh, I'm sorry. Here 5 00:00:16.480 --> 00:00:20.800 you go, doctor, Yes, what's up? Good to be here again, Jessica. 6 00:00:20.800 --> 00:00:23.800 How you doing Okay? The reason we got you on 7 00:00:24.000 --> 00:00:28.600 today is because it is OCD Awareness Month and we're 8 00:00:28.600 --> 00:00:30.519 gonna be talking OCD at buy me the hour. We 9 00:00:30.600 --> 00:00:34.560 might even take your phone calls. So if you follow 10 00:00:34.640 --> 00:00:38.640 the show, you know that recently I was diagnosed PTSD 11 00:00:40.399 --> 00:00:42.880 severe depression and if you call, you only have to 12 00:00:42.880 --> 00:00:49.759 call once. Hey, by the way, I've got OCD as well, 13 00:00:49.840 --> 00:00:51.880 so I can make the OCD jokes. I was putting 14 00:00:51.880 --> 00:00:55.840 out signs for my wife yesterday, Dave, and she was like, 15 00:00:56.240 --> 00:00:57.679 why do you take us so long on each sign? 16 00:00:57.719 --> 00:01:00.159 I said, listen, if I get this wrong, you going 17 00:01:00.240 --> 00:01:03.079 to lose the OCD vote. They all have to be 18 00:01:03.479 --> 00:01:08.079 but serious business. O c D is Uh. It's a 19 00:01:08.120 --> 00:01:10.680 pain in the rear, and I have it. I'm getting 20 00:01:10.680 --> 00:01:13.560 evaluated right now. I'm guessing the reason we waited to 21 00:01:13.640 --> 00:01:15.920 the last for OCD for the last because I had 22 00:01:15.959 --> 00:01:18.760 more issues, more severe issues to deal with. But we're 23 00:01:18.799 --> 00:01:21.280 at the point now where we're dealing with that. I've 24 00:01:21.319 --> 00:01:23.400 got a lot of o c D that I didn't 25 00:01:23.920 --> 00:01:27.439 I wasn't even aware until we started with this. You know, 26 00:01:27.560 --> 00:01:30.439 stop on each shoe. If you ever see me out, 27 00:01:30.439 --> 00:01:33.000 you'll notice the tops of my shoes are filthy dirty. 28 00:01:33.079 --> 00:01:37.599 Except for now. Look at that, doctor Street Russell look good. 29 00:01:37.920 --> 00:01:40.599 But here's one thing I didn't realize when getting through 30 00:01:41.840 --> 00:01:46.319 this OCD treatment. And I talked Dave, I was telling, uh, 31 00:01:46.560 --> 00:01:49.480 doctor Russell, look, there's certain things around the house I've 32 00:01:49.480 --> 00:01:51.439 got to do. We have these We have these coffee 33 00:01:51.480 --> 00:01:55.680 pods in a coffee pod storage facility in the kitchen. 34 00:01:55.879 --> 00:01:58.760 The top two rows are mine and the bottom five 35 00:01:58.840 --> 00:02:02.239 rows or whatever it might be, is all Susan's coffee pods. Now, 36 00:02:02.239 --> 00:02:05.959 when she replaces my coffee pods, if I fail to 37 00:02:06.000 --> 00:02:08.479 do it, they're all just turned different ways because she 38 00:02:08.520 --> 00:02:10.639 just sticks them in there. And I feel compelled to 39 00:02:10.680 --> 00:02:14.120 make sure that they're all straightened out. And I say, so, 40 00:02:14.159 --> 00:02:17.240 what's the deal. I've got to straighten that out. But 41 00:02:17.319 --> 00:02:22.400 yet my bathroom is just a mess. Neatness isn't necessarily 42 00:02:22.520 --> 00:02:24.360 OCD or is it? No? 43 00:02:24.439 --> 00:02:28.520 Not necessarily. I mean your OCD is often quite picky 44 00:02:29.039 --> 00:02:33.159 about the different things that that it will, you know, 45 00:02:33.199 --> 00:02:36.479 to make you preoccupied for. But so in this case, 46 00:02:36.520 --> 00:02:38.240 it's like, yeah, your coffee pods they need to be 47 00:02:38.240 --> 00:02:42.000 facing a certain way, and you know, meanwhile, the you know, 48 00:02:42.400 --> 00:02:45.159 you might be leaving your shoes and your socks everywhere 49 00:02:45.360 --> 00:02:48.159 and your bathroom's messed up. You know, it doesn't mean 50 00:02:48.159 --> 00:02:50.840 that that everywhere else in your life you're nice and 51 00:02:50.919 --> 00:02:51.680 neat and exact. 52 00:02:52.919 --> 00:02:58.520 So why should one more question on that? Because I 53 00:02:58.520 --> 00:03:02.800 don't know how o CD developed, and I'm guessing I 54 00:03:02.840 --> 00:03:05.520 did something once and decided, hey, man, you might be 55 00:03:05.520 --> 00:03:07.680 a superstition. I don't know. All I know is I 56 00:03:07.719 --> 00:03:09.280 have it. I didn't know I had it, so I 57 00:03:09.319 --> 00:03:14.560 started going, uh to therapy. I take that back. I 58 00:03:14.639 --> 00:03:16.479 knew I had a little bit. I didn't know it 59 00:03:16.520 --> 00:03:20.599 was at this measure though. But my point is Susan 60 00:03:20.719 --> 00:03:22.960 was started to turn the coffee pods to make sure 61 00:03:22.960 --> 00:03:24.960 they're all straight that way, and I said, look, don't 62 00:03:24.960 --> 00:03:27.719 do that. I lead that up to me. You know, 63 00:03:27.800 --> 00:03:32.159 I'll do it or not do it? Could could could 64 00:03:32.199 --> 00:03:34.560 her doing that? Lead her down to a road of OCD. 65 00:03:34.759 --> 00:03:36.919 Is that just ridiculous, thinking. 66 00:03:36.759 --> 00:03:40.280 Yeah, probably not for her, but it's certainly not helping 67 00:03:40.719 --> 00:03:44.840 your your o c D because the thing that keeps 68 00:03:44.919 --> 00:03:48.439 it going in the first place is the compulsive behavior. 69 00:03:49.120 --> 00:03:55.120 And oftentimes family members will it feels like they're supporting there, 70 00:03:55.360 --> 00:03:57.759 you know, they're they're loved one with OCD by you know, 71 00:03:57.800 --> 00:04:00.280 by doing all the little things that that would you know, 72 00:04:00.319 --> 00:04:04.360 make them feel uncomfortable. And when really all along it's 73 00:04:04.400 --> 00:04:07.240 it's it's not helping, and in fact, it could be 74 00:04:07.240 --> 00:04:08.319 making it a little bit worse. 75 00:04:08.639 --> 00:04:10.199 So I want to come back to you in just 76 00:04:10.199 --> 00:04:13.759 a second and talk about one of the most I 77 00:04:13.800 --> 00:04:16.360 guess one of the highest rated OCD movements. We'll just 78 00:04:16.399 --> 00:04:19.639 say that things that people do out there, and of 79 00:04:19.680 --> 00:04:23.720 course I did is I turned to Jessica. Jessica, why 80 00:04:23.720 --> 00:04:26.759 an OCD Awareness Month in the first place? 81 00:04:28.759 --> 00:04:29.120 To be. 82 00:04:30.800 --> 00:04:35.360 To be honest, the OCD has been historically just very 83 00:04:35.480 --> 00:04:39.120 under research and not really caught. It takes on average, 84 00:04:39.720 --> 00:04:41.319 when I say, the last time I looked it up, 85 00:04:41.439 --> 00:04:44.879 like ten plus years to be diagnosed with OCD and 86 00:04:44.879 --> 00:04:48.720 then seek treatment. And part of that is not a 87 00:04:48.759 --> 00:04:51.519 whole lot of people know exactly what it is. We 88 00:04:51.560 --> 00:04:57.319 think of stereotypical behaviors like neatness or cleanliness, but then 89 00:04:57.519 --> 00:05:03.240 the taboo thoughts or thoughts about harm or religious socid 90 00:05:03.680 --> 00:05:07.959 kind of gets lost because they're not exactly sure, or 91 00:05:08.079 --> 00:05:11.000 the general public sees things that are portrayed in the 92 00:05:11.079 --> 00:05:12.720 media that are really stereotypical. 93 00:05:15.160 --> 00:05:20.439 Doctor Street Russell, we were going through many, many, many, Well, 94 00:05:20.480 --> 00:05:23.040 what do I call them quirks? The OCD behavior that 95 00:05:23.079 --> 00:05:25.759 I exhibit on a daily basis, and there's many of them. 96 00:05:26.040 --> 00:05:28.079 What would I call it quirks or I don't want 97 00:05:28.079 --> 00:05:29.160 to mislabel something. 98 00:05:29.439 --> 00:05:32.079 Well, if it's the thought, like, if it's the fear, 99 00:05:32.240 --> 00:05:34.759 then you would call that your obsession. Okay, if it's 100 00:05:34.800 --> 00:05:37.199 the behaviors, then those are your compulsions. 101 00:05:38.480 --> 00:05:42.279 What are the compulsions that I do on a daily basis? 102 00:05:42.920 --> 00:05:46.480 And you said, you know what, that's one of the 103 00:05:46.560 --> 00:05:50.480 highest ranking ones there is is in the morning, I've 104 00:05:50.480 --> 00:05:54.519 got to put my towel exactly the same way on 105 00:05:54.560 --> 00:05:56.439 the towel rack, and I said, I feel like an 106 00:05:56.480 --> 00:05:58.160 end and goes no, no, no. That's one of the 107 00:05:58.240 --> 00:06:00.920 biggest ones. That's a lot of people. I mean, is 108 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:03.199 that a is that the most common one or what? 109 00:06:03.639 --> 00:06:06.120 I don't know, it's the most it made I think 110 00:06:06.120 --> 00:06:08.199 it's it's close up to the top of the list. 111 00:06:08.439 --> 00:06:12.079 And but most people when they tell us that one, 112 00:06:12.199 --> 00:06:14.600 they think that, man, wait just wait until they hear 113 00:06:14.920 --> 00:06:18.040 this one. And this is really gonna be a you know, 114 00:06:18.040 --> 00:06:20.000 a ton different than than what they're used to hearing. 115 00:06:20.879 --> 00:06:25.000 But yeah, fixing the towel just right on the uh, 116 00:06:25.240 --> 00:06:29.480 you know, on in the bathroom, that tends to be 117 00:06:29.519 --> 00:06:31.040 one that we hear of a lot. There's a lot 118 00:06:31.040 --> 00:06:35.120 of folks who who turned the car around pretty frequently 119 00:06:35.279 --> 00:06:37.639 to go and check to see if they, you know, 120 00:06:37.720 --> 00:06:42.680 hit pedestrians or if they had caused an accident. Uh 121 00:06:42.920 --> 00:06:45.000 and so, but we hear, we hear quite a few. 122 00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:48.959 It's certainly more than than what's uh what's often conveyed 123 00:06:49.000 --> 00:06:51.879 in movies, like you know, like hand washing or straightening 124 00:06:52.000 --> 00:06:55.839 up a you know, a pillow on the sofa. Those 125 00:06:55.839 --> 00:06:57.759 we don't hear quite as as frequently. 126 00:06:58.360 --> 00:07:01.240 Uh five seven eighty four eighty four. If you'd like 127 00:07:01.319 --> 00:07:05.360 to ask a question five seven one eighty four eighty 128 00:07:05.360 --> 00:07:08.319 four as we're talking O c D. I've been diagnosed 129 00:07:08.319 --> 00:07:10.439 with it. What wasn't really a shock. I think the 130 00:07:10.560 --> 00:07:12.680 level that I had is a shock. I kind of 131 00:07:13.040 --> 00:07:15.639 had a feeling I might have been there. But it's 132 00:07:15.720 --> 00:07:19.959 been confirmed and I've got many of them, and we've 133 00:07:20.000 --> 00:07:23.240 just started working through this, so I'm in the infancy 134 00:07:23.319 --> 00:07:27.519 of my treatment, but I'm telling you it's starting to work. 135 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:32.959 What other forms of OCD are there out there, because 136 00:07:33.040 --> 00:07:38.079 you know mine is repetition, almost ritualistic. But what other 137 00:07:38.160 --> 00:07:40.879 forms are if someone does something they might not know 138 00:07:40.920 --> 00:07:41.879 that they have OCD. 139 00:07:42.439 --> 00:07:45.160 Yeah, I mean, and I'll share what what tend to 140 00:07:45.199 --> 00:07:48.079 be the you know, maybe the top five or six 141 00:07:48.680 --> 00:07:52.759 different what we call subtypes of OCD. Most people have 142 00:07:52.839 --> 00:07:56.079 heard of the contamination type or like the germ type 143 00:07:56.399 --> 00:08:01.279 of OCD. That one's up there. But what we would 144 00:08:01.360 --> 00:08:05.480 call like harm related OCD is is really close to 145 00:08:05.519 --> 00:08:08.040 being the top one or two. And so that could 146 00:08:08.040 --> 00:08:11.079 be you know, harmed or fear that you might harm yourself, 147 00:08:11.160 --> 00:08:14.120 or the fear that you might harm other people because 148 00:08:14.120 --> 00:08:18.600 you're not careful enough. I know Jessica mentioned those religious 149 00:08:18.720 --> 00:08:23.519 types of fears and obsessions or existential obsessions. There are 150 00:08:23.560 --> 00:08:31.199 also identity fears, relationship obsessions, sexual obsessions, and really the 151 00:08:31.240 --> 00:08:33.320 list could go on and on and on. I think 152 00:08:33.519 --> 00:08:36.320 so far, I mean, we've established at least greater than 153 00:08:36.320 --> 00:08:41.600 thirty to forty research subtypes of OCD, But you don't 154 00:08:41.600 --> 00:08:44.320 tend to hear, you know, more about the ones that 155 00:08:45.120 --> 00:08:48.639 really go beyond contamination and straightening things. 156 00:08:48.440 --> 00:08:52.399 Up Again, if you have a question five seven one 157 00:08:52.480 --> 00:08:55.279 eighty four eighty four five seven one eighty four eighty 158 00:08:55.320 --> 00:08:58.919 four A lot of people and you hear those quite often, 159 00:08:59.080 --> 00:09:02.000 you know, those straighten to pure or they'll do whatever 160 00:09:02.000 --> 00:09:03.840 it might be, and they'll say, oh, that's my OCD. 161 00:09:06.080 --> 00:09:09.879 Is it frustrating for patients to hear that, because there's 162 00:09:09.919 --> 00:09:13.360 a difference between O c D and just liking things neat? 163 00:09:13.600 --> 00:09:16.759 Yeah, I think most people use it like it's an adjective, 164 00:09:16.919 --> 00:09:19.240 you know, it's like, I'm so O c D, you 165 00:09:19.279 --> 00:09:22.799 know about you know, this thing or that thing. And 166 00:09:23.120 --> 00:09:25.559 for folks who actually have it, yeah, it's pretty frustrating 167 00:09:25.600 --> 00:09:29.919 for them to hear. They're they're already worried that that 168 00:09:29.919 --> 00:09:33.879 that people might even find out about their their their thoughts. 169 00:09:34.559 --> 00:09:37.320 Many of the thoughts are quite strange, some of them 170 00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:39.559 could be pretty dark, and so they just don't share them. 171 00:09:39.600 --> 00:09:42.039 With other people. But yeah, most people don't like to 172 00:09:42.080 --> 00:09:46.000 hear that that, you know, those common expressions of like yeah, 173 00:09:46.000 --> 00:09:49.519 I'm so OCD about this or that it contributes to 174 00:09:49.559 --> 00:09:51.960 the stigma that that there is about OCD. 175 00:09:52.279 --> 00:09:54.960 If you have a question five seven one, eighty four, 176 00:09:55.080 --> 00:09:57.879 eighty four, as we go to Barbara, Barbara, you're on 177 00:09:58.120 --> 00:10:00.279 with Jessica and straight, how are you doing? 178 00:10:01.960 --> 00:10:02.559 Can you hear me? 179 00:10:02.799 --> 00:10:03.919 We got you? Barbara? 180 00:10:04.440 --> 00:10:04.799 All right? 181 00:10:04.879 --> 00:10:09.360 Good? Yeah, I have concerns about myself. When I park 182 00:10:09.679 --> 00:10:12.679 my car, I'm always afraid that I have left the 183 00:10:12.759 --> 00:10:14.799 lights on it even though I turned the switch off. 184 00:10:15.480 --> 00:10:18.519 I'm like, I wonder if I did the automatic thing 185 00:10:18.679 --> 00:10:21.279 or what, And so I know it looks weird, but 186 00:10:21.320 --> 00:10:23.279 I got to go check, especially if I'm going to 187 00:10:23.360 --> 00:10:24.600 be gone for a while and I got to go 188 00:10:24.799 --> 00:10:26.960 make sure the lights are off because I don't want 189 00:10:26.960 --> 00:10:28.600 my battery to run down and I don't want to 190 00:10:28.639 --> 00:10:30.519 be stuck. Is that O c D? 191 00:10:31.799 --> 00:10:36.399 So it absolutely could be. The One of the important 192 00:10:36.399 --> 00:10:38.759 things that you're that you're pointing out there is that 193 00:10:40.600 --> 00:10:43.039 you know, logically in your mind, it's like you might 194 00:10:43.080 --> 00:10:45.840 have remembered or even you know, you might recall that 195 00:10:45.919 --> 00:10:48.879 you did you know, turn the lights off? You know, 196 00:10:48.960 --> 00:10:50.919 this is something that you've done for probably a very 197 00:10:50.919 --> 00:10:54.799 long time. But with with O c D, it's not 198 00:10:54.840 --> 00:10:58.919 necessarily about what's logical. It's it's often that we fear 199 00:11:00.159 --> 00:11:02.879 what what's at least possible. And so it is possible 200 00:11:02.879 --> 00:11:06.279 that someone left their lights on, and it's also possible 201 00:11:06.320 --> 00:11:09.679 that the energy from their their battery starts to run 202 00:11:09.720 --> 00:11:13.360 out because of it. And so now again the trick 203 00:11:13.480 --> 00:11:16.600 is is to is to then try and and and 204 00:11:16.919 --> 00:11:18.639 you know, and it's gonna be different for each person, 205 00:11:18.720 --> 00:11:22.279 but do your best to you know, uh, check the 206 00:11:22.440 --> 00:11:25.000 what we would call just the the typical amount of times, 207 00:11:25.000 --> 00:11:28.919 which is usually once, walk away from it, and then 208 00:11:29.679 --> 00:11:33.240 as that uncertainty starts to set in, let yourself know 209 00:11:33.320 --> 00:11:36.080 that that's okay, it's okay to have that uncertainty. It's 210 00:11:36.080 --> 00:11:38.639 okay to you know that that that maybe sometimes you 211 00:11:38.759 --> 00:11:41.320 leave it on, but perhaps the majority of the time 212 00:11:41.360 --> 00:11:42.559 you're you're you're turning it off. 213 00:11:42.639 --> 00:11:44.960 Barbarie, have you ever tried to just check it once 214 00:11:45.000 --> 00:11:47.519 and then walk away? Does it drive you uh a bit? 215 00:11:47.679 --> 00:11:50.840 No? Yeah, I can check it once and walk away. Yeah, 216 00:11:50.879 --> 00:11:53.240 but you know, sometimes it's like it's daylight because I 217 00:11:53.399 --> 00:11:56.200 drive with my lights on all the time because I'm 218 00:11:56.240 --> 00:11:59.840 just I just do that. But it's like it's it's daylight. 219 00:12:00.559 --> 00:12:03.600 Then I'm thinking, was that the sun hitting at or 220 00:12:03.759 --> 00:12:07.399 was the light one? So I just I'm thinking, Okay, 221 00:12:07.440 --> 00:12:09.120 I know this looks weird, but I don't want to 222 00:12:09.120 --> 00:12:11.919 get stuck somewhere because I don't have a battery charger 223 00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:15.240 in my vehicle or whatever, and so I just, you know, 224 00:12:15.320 --> 00:12:18.320 I want to just be pre cautious, I think logically, 225 00:12:18.480 --> 00:12:21.120 because you know, I'm on my own, I'm a I'm 226 00:12:21.159 --> 00:12:24.480 a widow, and I don't want to get stuck somewhere. 227 00:12:24.600 --> 00:12:27.440 So that that to me, is like the ultimate because 228 00:12:27.559 --> 00:12:29.480 then that could lead further, you know, And I know 229 00:12:29.559 --> 00:12:33.320 that's panicking a little bit. And you know, sometimes my 230 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:36.440 kids say, oh, because I panic over storms too. I mean, 231 00:12:36.480 --> 00:12:38.159 I had a hurricane. I mean, not a hurricane. I 232 00:12:38.159 --> 00:12:40.960 had a tornado go over my house. And you know, 233 00:12:41.960 --> 00:12:45.600 I hate thunderstorms and stuff like that. But you know, 234 00:12:45.799 --> 00:12:48.919 to me, that's logical. So when I know that tornadoes 235 00:12:48.960 --> 00:12:52.759 are coming, I learned everyone and they're like, I think 236 00:12:52.799 --> 00:12:56.240 they're probably tired of hearing my weather forecast. You know so, 237 00:12:57.799 --> 00:13:00.600 but you know, but I'm probably still going to do 238 00:13:00.639 --> 00:13:05.600 it because you know, some people younger, I'm generalizing that 239 00:13:06.320 --> 00:13:08.440 they just don't listen to the weather. And then I'm like, 240 00:13:08.840 --> 00:13:12.159 you know, this could be bad. Okay, there's like tornado. 241 00:13:12.320 --> 00:13:15.440 Like the last time tornados came through Louisville, I was 242 00:13:15.440 --> 00:13:17.360 out of the I was out of the state, and 243 00:13:17.879 --> 00:13:20.039 I've got a notice on my phone that there were 244 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:23.559 tornado warnings in Louisville And I had to call my 245 00:13:23.679 --> 00:13:26.919 kids and say, do you hear the sireens? And they're like, oh, yeah. 246 00:13:27.679 --> 00:13:29.840 So I don't know if it's just me and my 247 00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:33.360 personal you know, relationships with people that they don't pay attention, 248 00:13:33.480 --> 00:13:35.399 and I maybe they count on me to do it, 249 00:13:35.440 --> 00:13:37.240 but I'm like, please pay attention. 250 00:13:38.559 --> 00:13:40.360 Well, thanks for the call of Barbara, And if you 251 00:13:40.360 --> 00:13:41.960 have a call, if you want to find out if 252 00:13:42.000 --> 00:13:44.759 you have those well not can't get diagnosed over the air, 253 00:13:44.799 --> 00:13:47.799 but if you have a question about OCD, maybe for 254 00:13:47.840 --> 00:13:50.440 you or family member five seven one eighty four eighty 255 00:13:50.480 --> 00:13:53.519 four five seven one eighty four eighty four Doctor Street 256 00:13:53.559 --> 00:13:57.919 Russell I started with a reclaim because of severe depression 257 00:13:57.960 --> 00:14:03.679 and PTSD. The therapy has been quite wonderful for me, 258 00:14:04.200 --> 00:14:06.600 I'll say that. But one thing I learned is it's 259 00:14:06.639 --> 00:14:08.320 not going to get rid of depression. It's not going 260 00:14:08.360 --> 00:14:10.000 to get rid of anxiety, it's not going to get 261 00:14:10.080 --> 00:14:11.799 rid of the PTSD. But it is going to make 262 00:14:11.799 --> 00:14:14.000 it more manageable. And that's what I'm dealing with right now. 263 00:14:15.159 --> 00:14:19.480 And I've exhibited some days that didn't go as well 264 00:14:19.559 --> 00:14:24.120 as but it's been fewer and far between, and I've 265 00:14:24.200 --> 00:14:25.559 learned that I'm gonna have to deal with this, but 266 00:14:25.600 --> 00:14:28.840 I'm dealing with it in a much easier way. How 267 00:14:28.879 --> 00:14:32.879 about OCD? Is this something Am I ever getting rid 268 00:14:32.879 --> 00:14:35.919 of this? Or is it just something like the depression? 269 00:14:36.039 --> 00:14:40.399 Like the PTSD, it's going to be more manageable. 270 00:14:40.440 --> 00:14:44.480 Yeah, it's similar to that. In the OCD is still 271 00:14:44.799 --> 00:14:49.879 considered a chronic condition. That doesn't mean that the severity 272 00:14:50.519 --> 00:14:52.960 of the disorder is always going to be you know, 273 00:14:53.360 --> 00:14:57.879 moderate to extreme. If if you're able to get the 274 00:14:59.399 --> 00:15:03.440 correct form treat of treatment for it, then you can 275 00:15:03.480 --> 00:15:07.919 reasonably expect to uh to you know, reach more of 276 00:15:07.960 --> 00:15:11.320 those mild levels of severity and UH and that that 277 00:15:11.440 --> 00:15:14.279 tends to be quite durable, that that that should hold 278 00:15:14.360 --> 00:15:16.960 up for for quite a while. This is not intended 279 00:15:17.000 --> 00:15:20.240 to be uh necessarily like a long term type of therapy. 280 00:15:20.879 --> 00:15:23.679 We we teach you several skills, ways to think of 281 00:15:23.679 --> 00:15:26.639 the O C D, and then you know, we we 282 00:15:27.240 --> 00:15:29.840 let people get back to living their lives and uh, 283 00:15:29.960 --> 00:15:31.639 they can come back if they ever need, you know, 284 00:15:31.639 --> 00:15:33.519 any any tune ups or check ups. 285 00:15:34.200 --> 00:15:34.320 Uh. 286 00:15:34.519 --> 00:15:35.360 Yeah, things get rough. 287 00:15:35.519 --> 00:15:38.440 Let's go to Bob Bob you're on uh with Jessica 288 00:15:38.679 --> 00:15:41.960 and doctor Street Russell. Yeah. 289 00:15:42.000 --> 00:15:44.000 I just wanted to give him on a couple of 290 00:15:44.039 --> 00:15:48.720 little quirks. I'm all about symmetry, m h. Things. Things 291 00:15:48.759 --> 00:15:51.360 have to be balanced. I mean, if I'm looking at 292 00:15:51.399 --> 00:15:55.039 a wall and there's three things on one sorry, three 293 00:15:55.080 --> 00:15:57.559 things on the other side, if the pictures have to 294 00:15:57.600 --> 00:16:01.200 be arranged, I mean, I'm all about balance and equal 295 00:16:01.320 --> 00:16:05.519 distances between objects and that sort of thing and this 296 00:16:05.919 --> 00:16:10.519 and And'll show you a stupid example. I happened to 297 00:16:10.519 --> 00:16:13.480 be I happened to walk by a TV that had 298 00:16:13.519 --> 00:16:17.399 the Lawrence Welk Show on, and it had these singers 299 00:16:17.480 --> 00:16:20.279 lined up on the stage and there were there were 300 00:16:20.960 --> 00:16:25.960 six women on one side and seven men and seven 301 00:16:26.080 --> 00:16:30.279 men on the other side, and it it bothered me. 302 00:16:30.720 --> 00:16:35.399 They weren't balanced, you know. So I understand. I know 303 00:16:35.480 --> 00:16:37.840 what hotly need, but I don't consider it a problem. 304 00:16:38.080 --> 00:16:40.720 I mean, it's kind of a neatness thing, really, But 305 00:16:40.720 --> 00:16:43.600 but I do have those students and the towel thing 306 00:16:43.679 --> 00:16:46.799 you talked about. Oh, I'm the worst. My wife will 307 00:16:46.799 --> 00:16:49.679 hang her towel up and I'll hang out up and 308 00:16:49.720 --> 00:16:50.799 I'll straighten her. 309 00:16:50.759 --> 00:16:51.279 Tower up. 310 00:16:53.600 --> 00:16:55.840 Right right right. 311 00:16:56.240 --> 00:16:58.159 But I'm with you, guys man, I'm with you. 312 00:16:58.600 --> 00:17:01.480 Hey tell you from the bar, thinking for the call, Bob. 313 00:17:01.519 --> 00:17:05.839 But yeah, yeah, there you go again. Uh doctor Street Russell. 314 00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:08.079 Uh that that's something where you had to get evaluated. 315 00:17:08.079 --> 00:17:13.519 I guess because or is it symmetry? How would you 316 00:17:13.880 --> 00:17:16.039 can't diagnose over the air? But if you were a 317 00:17:16.079 --> 00:17:16.680 betting man. 318 00:17:18.839 --> 00:17:22.240 If I'm a betting man, yeah, I because I could 319 00:17:22.240 --> 00:17:28.680 get my license taken away. But I no, I but 320 00:17:28.920 --> 00:17:31.880 I mean just just hearing Bob's you know, his his 321 00:17:31.960 --> 00:17:36.559 description of what what he was experiencing. And and it's 322 00:17:36.559 --> 00:17:39.400 funny that as I was listening to him, Dwight, I 323 00:17:39.440 --> 00:17:43.640 thought of I mean, even for you when you talked 324 00:17:43.640 --> 00:17:45.799 about the scuff marks on the tops of your shoes. 325 00:17:46.000 --> 00:17:48.480 It's like you had to even that up. It's not 326 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:50.839 that you could just do it on the right side. 327 00:17:50.880 --> 00:17:52.720 It's like you had to go to the left as well. 328 00:17:53.640 --> 00:17:57.119 And that's what we call those becose evening up compulsions. Now, again, 329 00:17:57.279 --> 00:18:00.440 that alone does not mean that that's some might have 330 00:18:00.480 --> 00:18:03.319 OCD or that Bob has o c D. It just 331 00:18:03.359 --> 00:18:06.319 means that, yeah, there's this preoccupation with things not being 332 00:18:06.319 --> 00:18:11.920 even doubt unfortunately. Yeah, Lawrence, uh, Lawrence Welk became the 333 00:18:12.039 --> 00:18:15.599 ultimate OCD agitator with the dancers. 334 00:18:15.759 --> 00:18:17.839 And it is having a sense of humor about it 335 00:18:17.880 --> 00:18:20.400 a good thing. Yeah, yeah, that's a great question. 336 00:18:20.519 --> 00:18:20.680 Day. 337 00:18:20.960 --> 00:18:24.839 I mean, yeah, we actually think that it is a 338 00:18:25.079 --> 00:18:29.000 critical component of the treatment. And I mean, after all, 339 00:18:29.039 --> 00:18:31.640 it's I mean, we're we're exploring, exploring these areas of 340 00:18:31.640 --> 00:18:35.160 the mind that are are so outrageous and absurd. I mean, 341 00:18:35.200 --> 00:18:37.000 you even heard what what Bob said. He said, I'm 342 00:18:37.000 --> 00:18:38.880 gonna you know, I'm gonna tell you the stupid thing 343 00:18:39.319 --> 00:18:41.240 you know that I do. I think I think most 344 00:18:41.279 --> 00:18:44.039 people look at it that way. It's it's that wow, 345 00:18:44.119 --> 00:18:47.000 I cannot believe that my mind is doing this right. 346 00:18:47.640 --> 00:18:49.839 And and so yeah, it's like let's bring it up. 347 00:18:49.920 --> 00:18:51.960 Let's talk about it more often than not. We're going 348 00:18:52.039 --> 00:18:54.000 to have a good laugh and and we're gonna teach 349 00:18:54.039 --> 00:18:55.319 you how to how to respond to it. 350 00:18:55.960 --> 00:18:59.240 All right, Reclaim Wellness Group. Dave, who do we have? 351 00:19:00.039 --> 00:19:02.240 Tell me about Tony's breaking alignment and the good work 352 00:19:02.279 --> 00:19:02.720 they're doing. 353 00:19:02.839 --> 00:19:06.640 D Man, You're right, baby, Tony's breaking alignment. Baby, finally 354 00:19:06.720 --> 00:19:09.319 listen to this, loved ones, a place that you could 355 00:19:09.359 --> 00:19:12.440 trust when it comes to maintenance and prevent a maintenance 356 00:19:12.559 --> 00:19:17.480 on your vehicle. That's right, Tony's breaking alignment. Also, every 357 00:19:17.559 --> 00:19:21.640 year they do this is breaks for breast Cancer. Okay, 358 00:19:22.119 --> 00:19:25.400 here's what's going on the entire month of October. 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All right, 368 00:19:57.960 --> 00:20:01.799 stick around news straight away and then more with Reclaim 369 00:20:02.039 --> 00:20:04.440 Wellness Group as we talk OCD. If you have a 370 00:20:04.519 --> 00:20:07.160 question five seven one eighty four eighty four News Radio 371 00:20:07.160 --> 00:20:11.119 eight forty wh as, could you play a song that's 372 00:20:11.160 --> 00:20:13.680 a little bit more symmetrical than that for me? Because 373 00:20:14.079 --> 00:20:17.799 it's about as symmetric as the kids. There's Radio eight 374 00:20:17.880 --> 00:20:21.759 forty WHS. That's Dave Jennings. Where is it? What song 375 00:20:21.880 --> 00:20:23.599 is it? Doctor? Doctor? 376 00:20:24.119 --> 00:20:27.680 Oh Thompson twins but hey, but they're not really twins. 377 00:20:27.759 --> 00:20:32.039 Dwight, Okay, too far. Man's only atleast there's only two 378 00:20:32.079 --> 00:20:34.319 of them, and not three of them. There's four. Oh, 379 00:20:34.319 --> 00:20:36.559 there's four entire well good at least it's not five 380 00:20:36.599 --> 00:20:38.920 of them. News Radio eight forty w h a s. 381 00:20:39.079 --> 00:20:41.960 We have Reclaim Wellness Group in the studio. That's where 382 00:20:41.960 --> 00:20:45.880 I went for severe I got. I went for depression 383 00:20:46.000 --> 00:20:49.640 and got diagnosed with severe depression and PTSD. So you 384 00:20:49.720 --> 00:20:52.240 got bonus stuff. I got bonus, that's right, and I 385 00:20:52.279 --> 00:20:55.359 found out I had OCD on top of it. I 386 00:20:55.400 --> 00:20:56.920 always thought I had a little bit of it. Man, 387 00:20:57.000 --> 00:21:01.119 it's uh it's a lot of bit as Welcome back, Jessica, 388 00:21:01.200 --> 00:21:05.680 and also doctor Street Russell my therapist. Uh OCD. Now, 389 00:21:05.839 --> 00:21:08.640 obviously it can cause anxiety, but has there ever been 390 00:21:08.680 --> 00:21:12.960 a case where or does it get so drastic that 391 00:21:13.039 --> 00:21:16.160 people can't even leave the house, Because you know, obviously 392 00:21:16.200 --> 00:21:20.640 I'm not that way. I'm functioning with plenty of flaws, 393 00:21:20.920 --> 00:21:23.000 but I could see where this would be so severe 394 00:21:23.079 --> 00:21:25.440 that it would make them buy agoraphobe, it could not 395 00:21:25.519 --> 00:21:26.119 be able to leave. 396 00:21:26.559 --> 00:21:32.960 Yeah, No, it happens quite frequently. And obviously, if you know, 397 00:21:32.960 --> 00:21:36.079 if you're out there and you're struggling with anxiety or OCD, 398 00:21:36.279 --> 00:21:37.599 you don't want to you don't want to let it 399 00:21:37.640 --> 00:21:40.880 get to that point. But still plenty of people out 400 00:21:40.880 --> 00:21:43.240 there who uh you know, who were afraid to leave 401 00:21:43.240 --> 00:21:47.400