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Speaker 4: That's true? That's true? Just me, let's do it. Issues
in the world of sports, what are they?
Speaker 3: Hey, there's there's plenty of them. There's always drama brewing
in the sports world.
Speaker 4: Right, that's true. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: And look, let's start off with the swoosh.
Speaker 3: How about this, Nike wins a battle in trademark litigation.
Speaker 1: What's the latest on Nike?
Speaker 4: Well, they won just an initial battle, and this is
exciting stuff intellectual property litigation. But I think we'd all
agree that Nike is quite possibly the most recognizable logo
in the world for the last forty years, one of
them at least, right, And that involves a trademark and
a copyright and that type of thing. Well, now they're
on the other end of a problem, and so follow
along here. Nike for about the last twenty five years
has had a soccer shoe out there called the Total ninety.
Now important part is its total space ninety. And they've
been had this for twenty five years and they claim
that it's the soccer shoe of the youth of a generation. Well,
there is another company out there and it's Total ninety,
no space between the Total and the ninety, and they
have soccer apparel and they sell a bunch of things
related to soccer. So Nike kind of surprisingly currently does
not have a trademark on Total ninety. They did at
one point and they let it run out in twenty nineteen.
I don't know if someone wasn't mind in the kitchen. Well,
what happens in these trademark disputes is now Total ninety,
the one without a space, not the big Nike. They
are suing Nike for trademark infringement, saying that you're infringing
our trademark. We have it. This is going to create
confusion in the marketplace. You need to stop. They're suing
them saying, hey, we want a temporary restraining order for
you to not do this anymore. That's big Nike. And incidentally,
they apparently went to Nike some time ago before they
filed their lawsuit and tried to strike a deal and said, hey,
for this amount of money and the millions of dollars,
we'll let you use the trademark. We'll give you the trademark.
And it's very similar to a case that's going on
in Utah, the Utah Mammoth. There's a hockey bag company
called Mammoth Hockey Bags or mont Mammoth Hockey that is
suing U Tom Mammoth over because U TOI Mammoth doesn't
have a trademark. Kind of the same thing. They went
to and before and tried to get strike a deal
and it didn't work. So back to the Nike deal.
They're suing them over there and looked at this and said, hey,
this is going to cause confusion in the marketplace. Everyone's
going to think you were us, and we don't want that. Well,
the judge looked at this, and this is just a
temporary restraint order. They looked at it, and the judge
agreed with Nike and said, hey, even though they used
same or similar retails, as Nike sells products, it's intended
to saturate the market and over well my identity there
said the reason that there was no lack of evidence
of actual confusion that consumers believe Total nineties products are
related to Nike's Total ninety. Well, I don't know about that,
but they agreed with Nike, and essentially, right now they're
not going to grant the temporary strain order. They're gonna
let it go down the litigation path. And so I
guess it proves that it helps to be the eight
hundred pound gorilla in this situation because total ninety sounds
very much like total ninety to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, all this IP stuff can get pretty confusing.
It seems kind of like a money grab though, right
doesn't it? Like, I mean, come on, like the truth
of the matter is like some of these things are
just money.
Speaker 1: Grabs, are they not?
Speaker 3: Well, maybe is that big of a deal to have
this issue, right, is it really?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 1: I think the Total ninety, I.
Speaker 4: Don't think that Nike is Nike is certainly not injured
by them. But I can promise you if Nike had
the trademark and they came in with that, Nike go
after that and shut them down, they probably benefit. But
they have benefit.
Speaker 1: They had the first place, and they let it expire.
So that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And then and then Total ninety went out and got it.
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, it's.
Speaker 4: Just Total Nighty probably benefits a little bit from the
Nike here in Total ninety people. Oh that's a good thing,
that's a positive thing. But you know, we'll see how
it goes. I'll bet there'll strike a deal down the road.
But Nike, you know, they're the They're the behemoth. They're
the eight intered pound gorilla.
Speaker 1: No doubt about it. Let's move on to the football field.
Speaker 3: Mac Jones defeats a copyright claim over win passage tweet
tweets getting everybody in trouble these days.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, this is another exciting intellectual property thing. So
this is an interesting story. We talked about it, or
it was the legal issue some time ago. We've got
this guy named Keith Bell and he is a psychologist
and he claims to be the father of swimming psychology.
And as part of this, he's published some books and
some motivational writings, that type of thing that he calls
the winning. He calls it the winning in the book
is a win, the win passage, he calls it. All
these kinds of things. And recently he went after Lane Kiffen.
That's not part of the day day and Lane Kiffin,
I don't know if anybody knows, he's been in the
news a little bit, but he had what's called the
Win Book, and winning isn't normal. He uses all these
motivational things. And he went after Lane Kiffin a while
ago saying because Lane Kiffen posted some kind of motivational
things and he said, hey, you're infringing on my trademark
and my copyrights. Well now he's going after Mac Jones,
and get this story. Mac Jones, as we know, is
an NFL quarterback, was an Alabama quarterback, played for New
England and now playing for San Francisco. Well, when he
was a seventeen year old, get this back in twenty sixteen,
when Mac was a seventeen year old probably didn't even
know what twee twitter was, but he tweeted out some
quotes from the win passage and he quote tweeted them
out as motivational things. Well, this Keith Bell in twin
wind of it and said, oh wait a minute, you
little seventeen year old, you were infringing on my on
my trademark, my copyrights if you actually benefited from it.
And so he went after mag Jones for this thing. Well,
the court didn't agree with our friend Keith Bill. He
basically said, hey, no, you know what, this wasn't being
put forth to earn money. He wasn't selling anything. He
was just sending out as a motivational statement. And you know,
so that doesn't qualify. And he says, reason that jones
tweet of wind passes constituted fair use and was not infringement.
And they've even cautioned the Cord even cautioned this Bell
and said, hey, you have a right impression of yourself
that all these things you put out there are only
your ideas. Noone uses motivational stuff and uses things like win.
And they even cautioned Ben said, hey, if you keep
filing these lawsuits, and moving forward, this could give right
to claims for harassing or other improper purpose. There's where
you're talking about shakedowns. Those are shatdowns. He wanted two
hundred two thousand dollars from mac Jones, claiming that he
he thinks that mac Jones doing this as a sevente
year old propped up his image in his position, and
that's why he is where it is today, not just
because he can throw a football.
Speaker 1: Ridiculous.
Speaker 3: Let's continue down the line of football this time the
Alliance of American Football judge rules in favor of Tom Dundon,
bringing af saga to a close.
Speaker 4: What do we have here, Well, Tom Dundon, who is
He's notable for being the owner of the Carolina Hurricanes,
and it looks like he's going to be the owner
or potter owner of the Portland Trailblazers. Well back some
time ago, he decided to buy the Alliance of American Football.
Everybody's heard of that, haven't they? The Alliance of American Football,
which was a failing football league I guess or minor
league professional football league. It was failing. Well, he bought
it and shortly thereafter it crashed. It collapsed in twenty nineteen.
And what happens is in the cases like when the
business fails with bigsiness, people used the bankruptcy laws. And
he went to the bankruptcy court and said, I'm going
to file bankruptcy, and all along there were a bunch
of creditors that said, hey, wait a minute, we're holding
the bag here. And so the trustee of the bankruptcy
court they looked at the facts of this and him
coming into bankruptcy and said, not so fast, mister Dundon.
You agreed when you bought this, when you bought this league,
to invest two hundred and fifty million dollars on it,
in it, to get it up and going to have
it a going concern, and to let these credits everyone
you know that had licenses and that type of thing,
let them go. So the trustee came after him, and
the court looked at it and they even said they
found him liable for breaching piduciary duty. They said he
was involved in some self dealing. Specifically, it said that
he the court found that Dundon engaged in equable conduct
by granting free advertising to Dundon owned controlled preferred entities.
And the court said, yeah, Dundon, you engaged in self dealing,
and this benefited your friends, and you used assets from
the league. And this self dealing included providing free advertising
to entities related to him like at and T, Top
Golf and Nity's owned by friend. He even said that you
were on off the site, opposite sides of various transactions.
That's a no no. But in the end, what the
what the court came out and said, They said, yeah,
but the trustee could not prove any causally related harm,
meaning that him doing these bad things, him these breaches
in that thing. It did not result in the actual
bankruptcy that he's there trying to get relief for. So
what the court did? They found him liable and awarded
one dollar one dollar wow that he'd have to pay.
I think billionaire Tom Dundon can.
Speaker 3: Afford that, No doubt he can. That's that's within his budget.
Final thing for you here, pressed and handy, handy and
handy handylaw Utah dot com. How can colleges solve the
Kelly Kiffin contract craziness? LSU paying Brian Kelly in his
entire fifty four million buy out and Lank Kiffin abruptly
leaving college football playoff bound Old Miss for LSU and
a seven year, ninety one million deal that has sparked
a lot of criticism. Give me your take on this.
Speaker 4: Well, I saw this headline from Michael mccannon, who's a
legal scholar and a law professor, and he does these
and he's he said, how can we do this? You know?
And he said, there's a way to get around us.
And as we know, they've both been in the news.
We talked about the Brian Kelly issue was he was
fired by LSU and he came to him and said, hey,
well you fired me, only fifty four million, and they said,
not so fast. We haven't terminated yet. And oh, by
the way, we're going to fire you for cause. And
we talked about this a few weeks ago on Sports Court, saying, hey,
this is a bet i'd look for LSU because they
didn't note anything for costs and they're going to owe
him the fifty four million dollars. Well, they relooked at
it again and said, you know what I think we do,
So they agreed to they formally terminated him, and they
agreed to pay him his fifty four million dollars, but
they also sent a letter to him saying, hey, here's
the terms of that contract that allowed you to get
a fifty four million dollars buyout that also had other
terms that means you need to seek a job, you
need to keep us posted about the jobs, the interviews,
you have that type of the progress at that time,
because if you get a job, we're not going to
be on the hook for it. Well, on the heels
of that, what happened Lane Kiffin, He left oh Mis,
got a big contract with the same LSU they're in
the news, and they gave him a big buyout. So
the question, the legal question, is there anything we can
do to avoid this craziness, the unpredictability, that type thing
in sports. And I think with the structure right now,
the answers probably know. But what McCann says is, you know,
all of these cases, the Austin case, the ed Obamon case,
the House case, they're all wrapped in these laws of
anti trust law, which anti trust laws prevents anti competition.
And what happens with coaches. Universities and leagues and conferences.
They all compete for coaches, and what do they do.
They offer them big contracts to go to their school
to go to their conference, and as part of the
big contract, what do they do They offer them huge
buyouts and that makes it really tough, you know, and
the courts pointed out that, well, you know what, all
these coaches they're able to leave, and why can't the
players And that's what ended up in the NIL type
thing and allow them players to profit from their NIL
and the transfer portal and all. That's craziness. So we're
looking for, you know, some type of stabilitiyess and one
of the things that Michael mccannon offered up as potentially
these universities just not they can't conspire because that would
be a bit They just don't offer these big buyouts
and these guaranteed things. But that's not realistic because you
know what, what if a few schools said, hey, we're
not doing this. Guess what, there's a school over in
the corner that absolutely will to get the best coach
and get the best players and all of that. So
it's it's a tough situation and I don't know there's
any real legal way around it unless you know, something
gets in place like that, and you know, and the
one school takes this and doesn't offer it and down
the road it becomes normal for not to have these
big buyouts. But right now it's crazy. And the coaches
they have a lot of the control, you know. Even
though Brian Kelly got fired, guess what, he has a
contract that gets him fifty four million.
Speaker 1: Crazy times.
Speaker 4: I don't think there is a real answer to it.
It's kind of what's going on here.
Speaker 1: We just got into the wrong business. You and I.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, someone taught me and said be a high
level coach. I always said, oh great, but I don't
think I could have done that.
Speaker 1: We all have different school would have been any good
at it. Hey, you're a great.
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Hill Aaron Roderick can see what they have to say
about their favorite signings of the twenty twenty six class.
We got a robust class, a top twenty five class.
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one in the country. Many four stars writer Liones, Bob
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Jay Hill, get his thoughts on the signing class, what
he likes about it, and let's tune in to your
assistant head coach and defense coordinator.
Speaker 2: Curious, what were the areas of focus for this cycle
when it came to, you know, addressing needs on the
defense society.
Speaker 5: Well, I think the biggest thing we try.
Speaker 6: To do is get the very best players that were
available to us. It wasn't necessarily one position group over another.
It was the very best players possible in the program,
and I think we did that. We signed some real
top notch guys that are going to be huge assets
to us moving forward in the future. We still have
a couple that we may sign in the next little bit,
and then you never know, like with with transfer portal
and things that come up, there might be even more
additionals later. But we feel good about the roster moving
forward and we feel good about these additions really making
us stronger.
Speaker 1: They wanted to.
Speaker 2: Ask you about some you know, into an individual person
on the class, Braxton lindsay, how heated a recruiting battle.
Was it, you know, going up against a handful of
SEC teams and what type of player are you getting
when he arrives on campus.
Speaker 6: Well, he's definitely one of my favorite guys we've recruited
in the last couple of years. Very athletic, very physical,
quite frankly, could play on both sides of the ball.
He's a great tight end, he could be a linebacker,
he could be a defensive end. His recruiting was very hot,
I guess is the way you put it. There were
a lot of great teams that were trying to get him.
You know, him being a member of the church I
think was a big deal. But just also and more
than anything, just the feel he had when he was
on campus and to the coaches, I.
Speaker 5: Think was a big deal.
Speaker 6: You'll coach Papinga did a phenomenal job recruiting him and
he will be a huge asset to our program.
Speaker 1: That's Jay Hill discussing, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean, look, there's gonna be a lot of these
guys that are Latter Day Saints, high level football players.
They had a great experience on campus and they have
a great recruiting experience. K Pop is one of the
best recruiters I've ever been. I remember he's recruited Kyle Vanoy,
recruited Fred Warner, recruited Shyoni Taki Taki. You look at
that LBU in the modern era, and who.
Speaker 1: Do you attribute it to? Shoot You can attribute.
Speaker 3: To Kelly Papinga, your special teams coordinator, your defensive end
edge coach.
Speaker 1: It's no surprise there, Jay Hill giving some love.
Speaker 3: Any thoughts there, any commentary from you, Ronald before we
get into the sound.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Look, anytime you beat out a SEC school, you
have to take it into account. But it doesn't matter
even with them being a member of the church. Ben,
I think the big thing is bo you've been in
the conference, because that was.
Speaker 8: The case before. Look, I go back to the interview
that we did.
Speaker 7: We had Andrew gentry On Bau wasn't in a conference, right,
he served a mission, he's a member of the church.
He was grew up in Colorado, like not too far right,
you can get there in a day and back.
Speaker 8: But they didn't get them.
Speaker 7: So I think that's the nature of you have to
be in a high level conference first of all to
be able to do that kids. You know, the last
thing is kids getting their market rate, but high level
education is the next one. At BYU, then they're getting
developing an opportunity. Like I look at Braxton Lindsay Ben,
if he plays his potential, you know, Kelly Papenka recruiting
him in justin and and depending his room like he's
up there, I think in the room with Nucy tom Apayi.
He's a guy that can play at the next level,
right if all goes well and playing you know, violent
in this defense.
Speaker 8: But you got to get those players.
Speaker 7: And I always say this, first, you got a win
a year backyard Colinie mentioned that you missed that sound.
We played it in the first hour of the show.
Go download it on the podcast. Now they're getting to
the point where getting the high level LDS telling across
the world.
Speaker 8: That's what you got to go next.
Speaker 7: Now they're starting to hit home runs on that and
they're just going to keep building and building.
Speaker 1: Let's get back to it.
Speaker 3: Jay Hill discussing the siding class of twenty twenty six.
Speaker 8: Next question from Brandon Gurney.
Speaker 9: Yeah, Kellaway a Khanna is a player who's literally played
every position on the football field. How do you see
him fitting in defensively for your team in the coming years?
Speaker 5: Well, I love him.
Speaker 6: When we first offered him, it was more as a
wide receiver. I know FESTI loved him as well, and
then he just kept growing and getting bigger, and when
we went to one of his football games, man, he
will hit you.
Speaker 5: He's physical.
Speaker 6: He's athletic enough to be a wide receiver on the
other side of the ball, but he's physical enough to
be a safety or a linebacker on defense. I think
a lot of him depends on how he continues to grow.
He just keeps getting bigger and bigger. But he has
a super bright future here at BYU and then and
then beyond. I mean he is a very very good talent.
Speaker 1: Next question from Jake Hash Yeah.
Speaker 6: Jay, as you go about building out these recruiting classes,
are you looking for I guess I call it an
archetype or like a certain type of player.
Speaker 5: Do you have a different things you're looking at different
positions for.
Speaker 6: Well, we for sure have measurables that that we look for.
Speaker 5: At every position.
Speaker 6: Ideally, you want big, strong, fast guys at every position.
But the reality is football players come in all shapes
and sizes. You can have, like a good example, you
could have a d tackle like Aaron Donald that's six foot,
two hundred and sixty five pounds and he could be
one of the best in the NFL, where most people
want those guys to be six five three twenty. They
come in all shapes and sizes, and so what we
have to do as coaches is decide how big do
we want them? Ideally and are you willing to take
a guy that might be a little better player but
he's not quite as big as you want, or he's
not as fast as you want, but he's just phenomenal
at everything he does. There's some give and take and
there's some experience that goes into that that you need
to have. Bottom line, we want the best football players
we can get, and if they meet the measurables, that's
a huge blessing obviously.
Speaker 8: And the reason I ask is because you have an
twenty zero or TJ.
Speaker 1: Johnson, he's six foot four.
Speaker 8: You have a saint ry On Vollative was six four
to sixty five.
Speaker 5: I just wonder, like, are.
Speaker 8: You looking for like tall dudes and that's offensive secondary.
Speaker 6: I guess the lack of a better term, well, we
want length in general. So I just I think at
every position, the longer you are as long as assuming
they can do their their.
Speaker 5: Job, I think that that's a good thing.
Speaker 6: You want long levered defenders that make windows smaller. That's
a good thing. You want range at the safety spot.
So that's one thing about TJ. Like he's tall, but
he can really run. And he's another guy that could
be a wide receiver. He's got great wide receiver film
and he can.
Speaker 5: Track the ball.
Speaker 6: He'll be a great asset to us in the secondary.
Just a rangy, long levered safety.
Speaker 10: Next question from Dana Green, Hey, Jay, you've been in
this state for quite some time. How have you seen
the level of talent improve in the state of Utah.
It seems like it's on par with some of the
other states. They're producing some of the best talent in
the country.
Speaker 6: Well, it's phenomenal, but we don't want anybody else coming
in here to take them, so.
Speaker 5: Just everybody else can stay away.
Speaker 6: I think the biggest thing that's occurred is the coaching
has got really good. The development continues to get better
and better. We've always had really good players in the
state of Utah. I just think they're getting developed a
little bit better now. I think population increases have helped that.
We just have more players playing in the state of Utah.
But yeah, I think the high school coaches are doing
a phenomenal job of developing guys and just having them
ready to play, and and the quality of person that
you can recruit in the state of Utah. We we
in Utah have disciplined kids that are used to working hard,
They're used to getting good grades, they're used to doing
things right, and that usually in the long run, correlates
well to good football players.
Speaker 11: Last question from Mitch Harper, Jay I wanted to ask
you about Adam Bywater, How is he similar and different
to than his brother Ben?
Speaker 5: Well, it's that's a fun comparison.
Speaker 6: I don't know if it's fair or not, but Ben
Ben was obviously a phenomenal player here and we see
so many similar characteristics. We see length, athleticism, physicality, so
many of those things that we see in that we
saw in Ben Adam has. I think Adam's actually big,
you're at this stage. I think he has a tremendous upside,
just as Ben did. We are so excited to have him,
and I think he's a perfect fit here at b YU.
Speaker 1: All Right, there you go.
Speaker 3: That's Jay Hill, Ladies and Gentlemen, defensive coordinator for the
BYU Cougar football team, discussing some of those recruits from
this twenty twenty six class. Got some great ones, got
some good ones. I do appreciate him going off on
the high school coaches, and I'll second that I always
talking about the parents. We have great parents, goodly parents
who love the Lord, who love academics, who love sport,
and these kids are raised in that environment in Lombe Hall.
They come out and they're ready to be high level
people in high level places. So yes, the coaching has elevated,
but the clay is phenomenal. You're breeding well and you're
also raising them well. Any thoughts, any commentary there as
it pertains to any of the players at them Bywater
Braxton lind see any of these defensive players that Jay
Hill commented on Ronald the three man Weaver.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the biggest thing is kind of something
he said in it. And now have to come and
play first to apply this. But he said they're all
good players. He said, we love them and no one
take them. I like, right, and I bring it up
because been just because now this day and age, if
these guys come in and they play or with the
portal and with nil right, like you very well could
have a kid that comes in at plays that could
go elsewhere, like it happens all the time. We've seen
our recruit to two coming during spring ball and then
leave after it's over and go elsewhere. Right, it could
still happen. It's not a guarantee that these kids will stay.
You hope that they do, but our minds some people, look,
you lost Keilen Mary and he played well, didn't he?
Harrison Taggart, he was a good football player, right, Crew
Weiglely good football player. Like, so it's possible with the
transferport of nil you could lose some of them. Still,
I think that's the nature of just how the business
operates at the end of the day. But I I
just love that Jay Hills said to like, no one
take them, but I mean they still could be poached.
And I mean, look, I think there are people on
this roster even with Klanney's extension, that they'll still try
to poach these players.
Speaker 8: That helps to stay right. But that's just the nature we.
Speaker 7: Live in is someone's always looking for a pay raise
elsewhere looking You can't really fault people right at the
end of today, Like I asked people this question all
the time.
Speaker 8: What you and Bred discussed yesterday.
Speaker 7: If someone came and offered you more money to do
the job, the same job you're doing elsewhere, you would
contemplate that. Don't tell me that you wouldn't like It's
just end of today. That's how life goes.
Speaker 1: All right. So that was the final question right from
for j Hill.
Speaker 3: All right, let's get into a Rod your offensive coordinator
and quarterbacks coach. We get that here momentarily as we
break down all the news and notes coming out of
the twenty twenty six signing class. This is Aaron Roderick
discussing his signs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Aaron, are you expecting a quarterback command who shall
remain nameless to sign before the early sighting period ends.
Speaker 12: We're expecting a few more players to sign. There's there's
a few guys that haven't signed yet.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: I wanted to also ask about your tight ends, brod
Harris Parker, Ord tight Getch. Your just thoughts on on
that trio and just the competitive nature of the battles
to get those guys here to by you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, three big time players.
Speaker 8: Those guys can all play.
Speaker 12: And you know, we've been trying to build up the
tight end position again to what it should be at
BYU and getting some good production this year out of
our tight ends, and these guys are all part of
that future where you know that that should be a
position of strength for us. We feel like and it's
it's going to be in the in the near future.
Speaker 8: The three very good football players all.
Speaker 12: We're super excited for all three of them.
Speaker 8: Next question from Danna Green.
Speaker 10: Hey, Aaron, I just kind of want to get your
perspective on how the local talent has progressed here in
this state. You're getting top notch guys year and a
year out, and this this year seems.
Speaker 11: To be different.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 12: I think, well, this state has been really good, a
good football state for quite a while now, and it
just gets better and better every year. I think it's,
you know, first of all, the quality of talent just
keeps increasing, you know, just talented kids that it used
to be just lignemen in the state. You know, maybe
maybe guys that play in the box and once in
a while a skill guy here and there. But now
in Utah you're finding skill players, quarterbacks, lignemen, tight ends,
you know, all of it, running backs.
Speaker 1: This is.
Speaker 12: The quality of play is just improving every year. And
I think it's also the quality of coaching. High school
coaching in the state is very good and so players
are being well developed in their high school programs and
showing up ready to play young early in their career.
Speaker 2: The next question from Jake Hash, Yeah, Aaron, you built
a reputation had a physical run game.
Speaker 8: I just want to ask you about Devon Echa and
what he brings and is he the only running back
we're going to bring in.
Speaker 5: You think, Uh, yeah, Devon.
Speaker 12: I got a chance to see him play last year
against I think it was Skyridge. I went to the
game and was super impressed him in person, and then
he just got even better this year. And I think
he's a really really good player. You know, he runs
hard between the tackles, but he has speed, he can
make you miss. He's a good receiver, just good all
round player. We're super excited for him, you know, I
think he's a true three skill back. And then the
running back position that high school wise, we're done there.
You know, we'll we'll see after the season where we're
at with people's health and and you know that position.
We're a little thin there this year obviously with what's
happened with Siona, and we thought there was a good
chance we would have fullal back this year. Hinkley were
pot to you and didn't get him back, and so
we'll we're still evaluating that, but we are very, very
excited about the Vaughn.
Speaker 6: When the guys are in front of the offensive line,
guys like Jacks Tanner bought move of tallow et cetera,
Like what do you making your offensive line grabs so far?
Speaker 1: Again, very good group. Man.
Speaker 12: That's uh, those are highly recruited guys.
Speaker 8: We had to beat really good, really.
Speaker 12: Good programs to get those guys, and those are guys
that are gonna be I would expect those guys to
compete for playing time very early in their career, if
not right away.
Speaker 10: Next question from Brandon Gurney.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I wanted to ask you about your your receiver
commits at Terrence and and I'm assuming Legend Glass gonna
play receiver for you. Just speak about them and their
ability and what and what bands can have suspect for
most team.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 12: Yeah, so just good football players, good speed. You know,
we we our receiver play I think has been very
underrated to hear during the time we've been here. We've
had a lot of good receivers in the last several years.
And I feel like these guys are you know, they
have speed, all of them can run, they all change direction,
good ball skills, got some good length there in that group.
And again, I think those are guys that are smart
guys that can come in and learn what we're doing
and play early. And you know, when you can stretch
the field, you know, like like Legend can, and you know,
and like Terrence and Graham.
Speaker 5: Stretched the field.
Speaker 12: That really helps our play action passing game. That fits
with our run game. You know, we want to be
physical and we want to stretch the field and throw
it down the field to these guys that can run.
So we're excited about that group.
Speaker 4: The next question from j Drew Aaron regarding the player
and the quarterback that Nature referenced. Should e Yu fans
Kubernation be concerned in any way that he's not signing today.
Speaker 12: I can't comment about any individual, uh player, but we
are gonna have some more guys sign and there's there's
a there's a few more several that I know of
that are still coming.
Speaker 4: And then what has been the effect?
Speaker 12: And and I will say, Uh, I think our quarterback
play here has been really good for a while now,
and so it's gonna continue to be really good. And
no matter who's here, we're gonna keep We're gonna keep
playing at a high level at QB.
Speaker 4: I was just gonna ask you about Bear but the
Bear Backmeyer effect his success, how has that affected recruiting quarterbacks?
Speaker 12: I don't think it's it's not a negative. I mean,
I think it's if anything, that's positive you know, I
QB's most quarterbacks want to go to a place where
there's been a history of good quarterback play and.
Speaker 8: It and especially a recent history.
Speaker 12: I mean, I obviously the quarterback play here going back
in the old days was unbelievable, and it's we've had
as good of a tradition at this school is as
you know, almost as good as anywhere in the country.
But I think with quarterback recruits, your recent history is
what really matters the most, and ours has been solid,
and so when we recruit quarterbacks, they're usually interested in
this place. And I also think that it's a unique
position where qbs are confident guys, the great ones believe
in themselves and they don't worry too much about who's
in front of them or who's.
Speaker 5: Who's already there.
Speaker 12: You know, they usually believe, I'm gonna go be the guy.
And and so I haven't had any buddies say I
don't want to I'm not interested in BYU because you're
starting a freshman that has not been has not come
up yet.
Speaker 11: Next question from Mitch Harper, Aaron, I'm curious if you
could speak to how maybe deeper.
Speaker 2: The pool is of candidates that you and this offensive
staff can so since you arrived at BUYU in twenty eighteen,
just maybe the the growth it's of all since you
and this staff have been.
Speaker 6: Here at b YU.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 12: You know, when we first got here, I think my
first year here, I think it had been four and
nine season. The year before we were an independent, independent team,
and we had some work to do, and then slowly
been building the program up year by year in a
lot of ways. You know, some of it's been our
recruiting efforts, some of it's been winning games on the field,
and then joining the Big Twelve was a big part
of it.
Speaker 8: Being successful in the Big Twelve.
Speaker 1: You know, we weren't very good.
Speaker 12: The first year and having success the last two years
that helps. And then just the university just you know,
making incremental improvements and additions to our program that make
this place more attractive for big time players. And so
it all fits together. It's all of it, you know,
and I think that's why we're getting you know, you
look at who we beat, the schools we're beating on
some of these recruits. Now it's like we're actually we're
recruiting a much higher level at a higher level than
we were when I first got here.
Speaker 1: All Right, all right, there you have it. That's Aaron Roderick. Okay.
Speaker 3: Obviously Rider Lions ended up signing E Sciding, so there's
a lot of questions about Rider Lions there.
Speaker 1: I do love the fact.
Speaker 3: That he made an emphasis of how good the quarterback
play has been at BYU since his arrival. Look and
look quarterback play. It's quarterback QBU the quarterback factory. Right Like,
I do think there was probably a drop off at times.
There's been undulations at times, but consistently be what you
attract really good quarterbacks in the modern era. Right you
have you have you know Sark being one of the best.
And I go back, you know now almost thirty years now,
John Beck was, trom Brandon Doman was tremendous obviously, you know,
you get into the Max Hall Arrow that was awesome.
Taysom Hill was obviously a unique and singular human being
and thorderback. You know, you're just in a leave of
his own as an athlete after that game. You know,
Tum Tanner Mangham was a good quarterback, obviously the lead
over the quarter. He had injuries, he had some mental
health issues, while at BYU. That kind of set him back,
I think, but he had tremendous potential. He just had
kind of an undulating, an undulating career. But I think,
if I'm not mistaken, if I pull up his stats here,
give me a moment, I think he's like top twelve
in passing yards.
Speaker 1: Anyway, Tanner was a great quarterback.
Speaker 3: Then you have the Zach Wilson era, the Jared Hall era,
you have Keton Slovas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Baylor Romney is also really good. Like people forget,
Baylor Romney's really good quarterback.
Speaker 3: And in any other year he could have led by
you to Glorin victory throughout an entirety of a season
at any rate. Now you're in the in the in
the j you got the Jake redslav era. And now
and look at what Jake's doing. Jake Verri could be
an NFL quarterback. And now you got Bear Bach. My
rider lines is the next of many or other quarterbacks
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