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That's right. 24 00:01:09,079 --> 00:01:10,840 Sports Cort brought to you by our good friends at 25 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,439 Handy and Handy, Big firm experience, small firm attention. Each 26 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,159 week we break down the real life legal drama, intersecting 27 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,400 with your favorite athletes, teams, and leagues, from contract dispute 28 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:24,359 and io chaos, sideline scandals, court room battles. We're diving 29 00:01:24,439 --> 00:01:28,599 deep with Utah's most trusted, trusted injury attorneys, Garrett and 30 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,000 Preston Handy. But I've been told we only have Preston 31 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:32,439 on the line today. Preston, how are you? 32 00:01:33,599 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 4: That's true? That's true? Just me, let's do it. Issues 33 00:01:39,159 --> 00:01:40,799 in the world of sports, what are they? 34 00:01:41,239 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 3: Hey, there's there's plenty of them. There's always drama brewing 35 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:46,719 in the sports world. 36 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,879 Speaker 4: Right, that's true. Yeah, you know. 37 00:01:51,079 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: And look, let's start off with the swoosh. 38 00:01:52,959 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 3: How about this, Nike wins a battle in trademark litigation. 39 00:01:58,400 --> 00:01:59,879 Speaker 1: What's the latest on Nike? 40 00:02:01,599 --> 00:02:05,079 Speaker 4: Well, they won just an initial battle, and this is 41 00:02:05,159 --> 00:02:10,400 exciting stuff intellectual property litigation. But I think we'd all 42 00:02:10,439 --> 00:02:18,639 agree that Nike is quite possibly the most recognizable logo 43 00:02:19,439 --> 00:02:21,439 in the world for the last forty years, one of 44 00:02:21,479 --> 00:02:24,759 them at least, right, And that involves a trademark and 45 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,439 a copyright and that type of thing. Well, now they're 46 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,240 on the other end of a problem, and so follow 47 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,360 along here. Nike for about the last twenty five years 48 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:41,039 has had a soccer shoe out there called the Total ninety. 49 00:02:41,159 --> 00:02:46,840 Now important part is its total space ninety. And they've 50 00:02:46,879 --> 00:02:49,560 been had this for twenty five years and they claim 51 00:02:49,599 --> 00:02:53,240 that it's the soccer shoe of the youth of a generation. Well, 52 00:02:53,439 --> 00:02:57,199 there is another company out there and it's Total ninety, 53 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:01,199 no space between the Total and the ninety, and they 54 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,159 have soccer apparel and they sell a bunch of things 55 00:03:04,159 --> 00:03:09,800 related to soccer. So Nike kind of surprisingly currently does 56 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,039 not have a trademark on Total ninety. They did at 57 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,800 one point and they let it run out in twenty nineteen. 58 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,840 I don't know if someone wasn't mind in the kitchen. Well, 59 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,199 what happens in these trademark disputes is now Total ninety, 60 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,960 the one without a space, not the big Nike. They 61 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:30,400 are suing Nike for trademark infringement, saying that you're infringing 62 00:03:30,439 --> 00:03:33,039 our trademark. We have it. This is going to create 63 00:03:33,719 --> 00:03:37,479 confusion in the marketplace. You need to stop. They're suing 64 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,879 them saying, hey, we want a temporary restraining order for 65 00:03:39,919 --> 00:03:43,560 you to not do this anymore. That's big Nike. And incidentally, 66 00:03:43,599 --> 00:03:46,719 they apparently went to Nike some time ago before they 67 00:03:46,719 --> 00:03:50,039 filed their lawsuit and tried to strike a deal and said, hey, 68 00:03:50,039 --> 00:03:52,199 for this amount of money and the millions of dollars, 69 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,960 we'll let you use the trademark. We'll give you the trademark. 70 00:03:55,439 --> 00:03:58,199 And it's very similar to a case that's going on 71 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:03,439 in Utah, the Utah Mammoth. There's a hockey bag company 72 00:04:03,479 --> 00:04:07,879 called Mammoth Hockey Bags or mont Mammoth Hockey that is 73 00:04:07,919 --> 00:04:11,719 suing U Tom Mammoth over because U TOI Mammoth doesn't 74 00:04:11,719 --> 00:04:13,319 have a trademark. Kind of the same thing. They went 75 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,120 to and before and tried to get strike a deal 76 00:04:15,159 --> 00:04:17,680 and it didn't work. So back to the Nike deal. 77 00:04:19,079 --> 00:04:22,680 They're suing them over there and looked at this and said, hey, 78 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,759 this is going to cause confusion in the marketplace. Everyone's 79 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,560 going to think you were us, and we don't want that. Well, 80 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:30,879 the judge looked at this, and this is just a 81 00:04:30,879 --> 00:04:32,879 temporary restraint order. They looked at it, and the judge 82 00:04:32,879 --> 00:04:38,160 agreed with Nike and said, hey, even though they used 83 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:42,959 same or similar retails, as Nike sells products, it's intended 84 00:04:42,959 --> 00:04:45,879 to saturate the market and over well my identity there 85 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,199 said the reason that there was no lack of evidence 86 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,439 of actual confusion that consumers believe Total nineties products are 87 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,879 related to Nike's Total ninety. Well, I don't know about that, 88 00:04:56,959 --> 00:04:59,560 but they agreed with Nike, and essentially, right now they're 89 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:03,800 not going to grant the temporary strain order. They're gonna 90 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,319 let it go down the litigation path. And so I 91 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,399 guess it proves that it helps to be the eight 92 00:05:09,519 --> 00:05:13,600 hundred pound gorilla in this situation because total ninety sounds 93 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,480 very much like total ninety to me. 94 00:05:16,759 --> 00:05:21,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, look, all this IP stuff can get pretty confusing. 95 00:05:21,879 --> 00:05:24,600 It seems kind of like a money grab though, right 96 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,160 doesn't it? Like, I mean, come on, like the truth 97 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:28,879 of the matter is like some of these things are 98 00:05:28,959 --> 00:05:30,439 just money. 99 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:30,879 Speaker 1: Grabs, are they not? 100 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 3: Well, maybe is that big of a deal to have 101 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:39,759 this issue, right, is it really? 102 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 4: Well? 103 00:05:39,959 --> 00:05:43,439 Speaker 1: I think the Total ninety, I. 104 00:05:43,399 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 4: Don't think that Nike is Nike is certainly not injured 105 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,079 by them. But I can promise you if Nike had 106 00:05:49,079 --> 00:05:51,639 the trademark and they came in with that, Nike go 107 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,279 after that and shut them down, they probably benefit. But 108 00:05:55,319 --> 00:05:56,279 they have benefit. 109 00:05:56,399 --> 00:05:58,879 Speaker 1: They had the first place, and they let it expire. 110 00:05:59,399 --> 00:06:00,319 So that's what I'm saying. 111 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,079 Speaker 3: And then and then Total ninety went out and got it. 112 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, it's. 113 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 4: Just Total Nighty probably benefits a little bit from the 114 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,399 Nike here in Total ninety people. Oh that's a good thing, 115 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,519 that's a positive thing. But you know, we'll see how 116 00:06:14,519 --> 00:06:16,800 it goes. I'll bet there'll strike a deal down the road. 117 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,439 But Nike, you know, they're the They're the behemoth. They're 118 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,360 the eight intered pound gorilla. 119 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: No doubt about it. Let's move on to the football field. 120 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:29,079 Speaker 3: Mac Jones defeats a copyright claim over win passage tweet 121 00:06:29,399 --> 00:06:31,839 tweets getting everybody in trouble these days. 122 00:06:33,319 --> 00:06:37,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, this is another exciting intellectual property thing. So 123 00:06:38,439 --> 00:06:40,720 this is an interesting story. We talked about it, or 124 00:06:40,759 --> 00:06:43,199 it was the legal issue some time ago. We've got 125 00:06:43,199 --> 00:06:46,959 this guy named Keith Bell and he is a psychologist 126 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,120 and he claims to be the father of swimming psychology. 127 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,519 And as part of this, he's published some books and 128 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,639 some motivational writings, that type of thing that he calls 129 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,160 the winning. He calls it the winning in the book 130 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,959 is a win, the win passage, he calls it. All 131 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:09,720 these kinds of things. And recently he went after Lane Kiffen. 132 00:07:10,199 --> 00:07:12,000 That's not part of the day day and Lane Kiffin, 133 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:13,519 I don't know if anybody knows, he's been in the 134 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,839 news a little bit, but he had what's called the 135 00:07:15,879 --> 00:07:19,839 Win Book, and winning isn't normal. He uses all these 136 00:07:19,839 --> 00:07:22,480 motivational things. And he went after Lane Kiffin a while 137 00:07:22,519 --> 00:07:25,759 ago saying because Lane Kiffen posted some kind of motivational 138 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,720 things and he said, hey, you're infringing on my trademark 139 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,279 and my copyrights. Well now he's going after Mac Jones, 140 00:07:32,279 --> 00:07:34,879 and get this story. Mac Jones, as we know, is 141 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,439 an NFL quarterback, was an Alabama quarterback, played for New 142 00:07:38,439 --> 00:07:41,360 England and now playing for San Francisco. Well, when he 143 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,680 was a seventeen year old, get this back in twenty sixteen, 144 00:07:44,439 --> 00:07:47,879 when Mac was a seventeen year old probably didn't even 145 00:07:47,879 --> 00:07:51,120 know what twee twitter was, but he tweeted out some 146 00:07:51,279 --> 00:07:56,160 quotes from the win passage and he quote tweeted them 147 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,920 out as motivational things. Well, this Keith Bell in twin 148 00:08:00,439 --> 00:08:03,240 wind of it and said, oh wait a minute, you 149 00:08:03,279 --> 00:08:06,240 little seventeen year old, you were infringing on my on 150 00:08:06,279 --> 00:08:09,600 my trademark, my copyrights if you actually benefited from it. 151 00:08:10,079 --> 00:08:13,120 And so he went after mag Jones for this thing. Well, 152 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,639 the court didn't agree with our friend Keith Bill. He 153 00:08:16,759 --> 00:08:19,879 basically said, hey, no, you know what, this wasn't being 154 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,399 put forth to earn money. He wasn't selling anything. He 155 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,560 was just sending out as a motivational statement. And you know, 156 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,800 so that doesn't qualify. And he says, reason that jones 157 00:08:29,839 --> 00:08:34,080 tweet of wind passes constituted fair use and was not infringement. 158 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,440 And they've even cautioned the Cord even cautioned this Bell 159 00:08:37,519 --> 00:08:40,519 and said, hey, you have a right impression of yourself 160 00:08:40,519 --> 00:08:43,039 that all these things you put out there are only 161 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,519 your ideas. Noone uses motivational stuff and uses things like win. 162 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,960 And they even cautioned Ben said, hey, if you keep 163 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,840 filing these lawsuits, and moving forward, this could give right 164 00:08:54,879 --> 00:08:58,240 to claims for harassing or other improper purpose. There's where 165 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:02,480 you're talking about shakedowns. Those are shatdowns. He wanted two 166 00:09:02,519 --> 00:09:06,919 hundred two thousand dollars from mac Jones, claiming that he 167 00:09:06,919 --> 00:09:09,159 he thinks that mac Jones doing this as a sevente 168 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,200 year old propped up his image in his position, and 169 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,159 that's why he is where it is today, not just 170 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:15,320 because he can throw a football. 171 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:16,919 Speaker 1: Ridiculous. 172 00:09:17,799 --> 00:09:21,639 Speaker 3: Let's continue down the line of football this time the 173 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,279 Alliance of American Football judge rules in favor of Tom Dundon, 174 00:09:25,639 --> 00:09:29,159 bringing af saga to a close. 175 00:09:30,039 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 4: What do we have here, Well, Tom Dundon, who is 176 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:43,600 He's notable for being the owner of the Carolina Hurricanes, 177 00:09:43,639 --> 00:09:45,440 and it looks like he's going to be the owner 178 00:09:45,519 --> 00:09:48,639 or potter owner of the Portland Trailblazers. Well back some 179 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:53,240 time ago, he decided to buy the Alliance of American Football. 180 00:09:53,279 --> 00:09:56,919 Everybody's heard of that, haven't they? The Alliance of American Football, 181 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,159 which was a failing football league I guess or minor 182 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,919 league professional football league. It was failing. Well, he bought 183 00:10:04,919 --> 00:10:09,440 it and shortly thereafter it crashed. It collapsed in twenty nineteen. 184 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,360 And what happens is in the cases like when the 185 00:10:12,399 --> 00:10:16,120 business fails with bigsiness, people used the bankruptcy laws. And 186 00:10:16,159 --> 00:10:17,879 he went to the bankruptcy court and said, I'm going 187 00:10:17,919 --> 00:10:21,320 to file bankruptcy, and all along there were a bunch 188 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,559 of creditors that said, hey, wait a minute, we're holding 189 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,679 the bag here. And so the trustee of the bankruptcy 190 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,679 court they looked at the facts of this and him 191 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,559 coming into bankruptcy and said, not so fast, mister Dundon. 192 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,240 You agreed when you bought this, when you bought this league, 193 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,559 to invest two hundred and fifty million dollars on it, 194 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,840 in it, to get it up and going to have 195 00:10:40,919 --> 00:10:43,360 it a going concern, and to let these credits everyone 196 00:10:43,639 --> 00:10:45,519 you know that had licenses and that type of thing, 197 00:10:45,639 --> 00:10:48,480 let them go. So the trustee came after him, and 198 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:50,960 the court looked at it and they even said they 199 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,320 found him liable for breaching piduciary duty. They said he 200 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,840 was involved in some self dealing. Specifically, it said that 201 00:10:57,879 --> 00:11:02,279 he the court found that Dundon engaged in equable conduct 202 00:11:02,279 --> 00:11:06,600 by granting free advertising to Dundon owned controlled preferred entities. 203 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,919 And the court said, yeah, Dundon, you engaged in self dealing, 204 00:11:10,399 --> 00:11:13,039 and this benefited your friends, and you used assets from 205 00:11:13,039 --> 00:11:16,600 the league. And this self dealing included providing free advertising 206 00:11:16,639 --> 00:11:19,720 to entities related to him like at and T, Top 207 00:11:19,759 --> 00:11:22,840 Golf and Nity's owned by friend. He even said that you 208 00:11:22,879 --> 00:11:25,600 were on off the site, opposite sides of various transactions. 209 00:11:25,639 --> 00:11:28,399 That's a no no. But in the end, what the 210 00:11:28,639 --> 00:11:31,639 what the court came out and said, They said, yeah, 211 00:11:31,639 --> 00:11:35,720 but the trustee could not prove any causally related harm, 212 00:11:35,799 --> 00:11:39,120 meaning that him doing these bad things, him these breaches 213 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,039 in that thing. It did not result in the actual 214 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,120 bankruptcy that he's there trying to get relief for. So 215 00:11:45,159 --> 00:11:49,200 what the court did? They found him liable and awarded 216 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:53,159 one dollar one dollar wow that he'd have to pay. 217 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,679 I think billionaire Tom Dundon can. 218 00:11:55,559 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 3: Afford that, No doubt he can. That's that's within his budget. 219 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,720 Final thing for you here, pressed and handy, handy and 220 00:12:03,799 --> 00:12:09,039 handy handylaw Utah dot com. How can colleges solve the 221 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:13,679 Kelly Kiffin contract craziness? LSU paying Brian Kelly in his 222 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,159 entire fifty four million buy out and Lank Kiffin abruptly 223 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,759 leaving college football playoff bound Old Miss for LSU and 224 00:12:19,799 --> 00:12:23,279 a seven year, ninety one million deal that has sparked 225 00:12:23,279 --> 00:12:26,440 a lot of criticism. Give me your take on this. 226 00:12:27,799 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 4: Well, I saw this headline from Michael mccannon, who's a 227 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,759 legal scholar and a law professor, and he does these 228 00:12:35,159 --> 00:12:37,879 and he's he said, how can we do this? You know? 229 00:12:38,279 --> 00:12:40,759 And he said, there's a way to get around us. 230 00:12:40,759 --> 00:12:43,000 And as we know, they've both been in the news. 231 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,840 We talked about the Brian Kelly issue was he was 232 00:12:45,879 --> 00:12:49,440 fired by LSU and he came to him and said, hey, 233 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,879 well you fired me, only fifty four million, and they said, 234 00:12:51,879 --> 00:12:54,600 not so fast. We haven't terminated yet. And oh, by 235 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,480 the way, we're going to fire you for cause. And 236 00:12:56,519 --> 00:12:59,519 we talked about this a few weeks ago on Sports Court, saying, hey, 237 00:12:59,519 --> 00:13:01,600 this is a bet i'd look for LSU because they 238 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,200 didn't note anything for costs and they're going to owe 239 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,120 him the fifty four million dollars. Well, they relooked at 240 00:13:07,159 --> 00:13:09,360 it again and said, you know what I think we do, 241 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,799 So they agreed to they formally terminated him, and they 242 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,799 agreed to pay him his fifty four million dollars, but 243 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:17,799 they also sent a letter to him saying, hey, here's 244 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,399 the terms of that contract that allowed you to get 245 00:13:20,399 --> 00:13:22,759 a fifty four million dollars buyout that also had other 246 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,120 terms that means you need to seek a job, you 247 00:13:26,159 --> 00:13:29,240 need to keep us posted about the jobs, the interviews, 248 00:13:29,279 --> 00:13:31,039 you have that type of the progress at that time, 249 00:13:31,159 --> 00:13:32,759 because if you get a job, we're not going to 250 00:13:32,799 --> 00:13:34,679 be on the hook for it. Well, on the heels 251 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:38,120 of that, what happened Lane Kiffin, He left oh Mis, 252 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,399 got a big contract with the same LSU they're in 253 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,440 the news, and they gave him a big buyout. So 254 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,480 the question, the legal question, is there anything we can 255 00:13:46,519 --> 00:13:50,879 do to avoid this craziness, the unpredictability, that type thing 256 00:13:50,919 --> 00:13:53,759 in sports. And I think with the structure right now, 257 00:13:53,799 --> 00:13:57,960 the answers probably know. But what McCann says is, you know, 258 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,879 all of these cases, the Austin case, the ed Obamon case, 259 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,720 the House case, they're all wrapped in these laws of 260 00:14:06,039 --> 00:14:09,720 anti trust law, which anti trust laws prevents anti competition. 261 00:14:10,279 --> 00:14:15,240 And what happens with coaches. Universities and leagues and conferences. 262 00:14:15,639 --> 00:14:17,799 They all compete for coaches, and what do they do. 263 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,080 They offer them big contracts to go to their school 264 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,039 to go to their conference, and as part of the 265 00:14:23,039 --> 00:14:25,759 big contract, what do they do They offer them huge 266 00:14:25,759 --> 00:14:28,679 buyouts and that makes it really tough, you know, and 267 00:14:29,039 --> 00:14:33,080 the courts pointed out that, well, you know what, all 268 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,360 these coaches they're able to leave, and why can't the 269 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,720 players And that's what ended up in the NIL type 270 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,360 thing and allow them players to profit from their NIL 271 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,919 and the transfer portal and all. That's craziness. So we're 272 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,159 looking for, you know, some type of stabilitiyess and one 273 00:14:46,159 --> 00:14:50,639 of the things that Michael mccannon offered up as potentially 274 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:55,399 these universities just not they can't conspire because that would 275 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,600 be a bit They just don't offer these big buyouts 276 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:01,240 and these guaranteed things. But that's not realistic because you 277 00:15:01,279 --> 00:15:03,519 know what, what if a few schools said, hey, we're 278 00:15:03,559 --> 00:15:06,159 not doing this. Guess what, there's a school over in 279 00:15:06,159 --> 00:15:08,639 the corner that absolutely will to get the best coach 280 00:15:08,679 --> 00:15:10,320 and get the best players and all of that. So 281 00:15:10,919 --> 00:15:13,240 it's it's a tough situation and I don't know there's 282 00:15:13,279 --> 00:15:17,440 any real legal way around it unless you know, something 283 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,279 gets in place like that, and you know, and the 284 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:23,399 one school takes this and doesn't offer it and down 285 00:15:23,399 --> 00:15:25,440 the road it becomes normal for not to have these 286 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,799 big buyouts. But right now it's crazy. And the coaches 287 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,919 they have a lot of the control, you know. Even 288 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,879 though Brian Kelly got fired, guess what, he has a 289 00:15:33,919 --> 00:15:35,600 contract that gets him fifty four million. 290 00:15:36,799 --> 00:15:37,919 Speaker 1: Crazy times. 291 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 4: I don't think there is a real answer to it. 292 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:41,360 It's kind of what's going on here. 293 00:15:41,799 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: We just got into the wrong business. You and I. 294 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, someone taught me and said be a high 295 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,799 level coach. I always said, oh great, but I don't 296 00:15:50,799 --> 00:15:51,679 think I could have done that. 297 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:54,559 Speaker 1: We all have different school would have been any good 298 00:15:54,559 --> 00:15:56,399 at it. Hey, you're a great. 299 00:15:58,039 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 3: A great representative of those that have been injured. 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Going to talk with Jay 361 00:18:58,319 --> 00:19:00,960 Hill Aaron Roderick can see what they have to say 362 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,680 about their favorite signings of the twenty twenty six class. 363 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,000 We got a robust class, a top twenty five class. 364 00:19:08,039 --> 00:19:10,599 I think they came in a number ranked number twenty 365 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:14,839 one in the country. Many four stars writer Liones, Bob 366 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:19,279 Moulatalo Brockers, Adam Bywater, Taygetchi, Lopetimwala, and then some high 367 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:23,559 level three stars as well, Jax Tanner, Terrence Sarion, Braxton, 368 00:19:23,599 --> 00:19:27,599 Lindsay Cowway, Akana Legend Glasker, Matthew Mason, Graham, Livingston, Parker, 369 00:19:27,799 --> 00:19:31,319 Ord sephan A A Latini, Antonio Johnson, Nea Mia Alone, 370 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:35,440 Justice Braithwaite and Devon Eka so It's a great class, 371 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,319 one of the best class, if not the best class 372 00:19:37,319 --> 00:19:41,599 in BAA football history, and we're going to get into 373 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,400 it here. It's gonna be brought to you by Utah 374 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,640 Protective Films Utah Protective Films dot Com. 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Right, let's start off with 383 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,759 Jay Hill, get his thoughts on the signing class, what 384 00:20:13,799 --> 00:20:17,000 he likes about it, and let's tune in to your 385 00:20:17,039 --> 00:20:19,119 assistant head coach and defense coordinator. 386 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 2: Curious, what were the areas of focus for this cycle 387 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,559 when it came to, you know, addressing needs on the 388 00:20:27,599 --> 00:20:28,440 defense society. 389 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 5: Well, I think the biggest thing we try. 390 00:20:31,319 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 6: To do is get the very best players that were 391 00:20:33,039 --> 00:20:38,599 available to us. It wasn't necessarily one position group over another. 392 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,880 It was the very best players possible in the program, 393 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,799 and I think we did that. We signed some real 394 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,599 top notch guys that are going to be huge assets 395 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:52,920 to us moving forward in the future. We still have 396 00:20:53,079 --> 00:20:55,559 a couple that we may sign in the next little bit, 397 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,160 and then you never know, like with with transfer portal 398 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,160 and things that come up, there might be even more 399 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:05,240 additionals later. But we feel good about the roster moving 400 00:21:05,279 --> 00:21:07,839 forward and we feel good about these additions really making 401 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:08,519 us stronger. 402 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: They wanted to. 403 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:14,079 Speaker 2: Ask you about some you know, into an individual person 404 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:18,240 on the class, Braxton lindsay, how heated a recruiting battle. 405 00:21:18,319 --> 00:21:20,680 Was it, you know, going up against a handful of 406 00:21:20,799 --> 00:21:23,839 SEC teams and what type of player are you getting 407 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:25,680 when he arrives on campus. 408 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 6: Well, he's definitely one of my favorite guys we've recruited 409 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,680 in the last couple of years. Very athletic, very physical, 410 00:21:33,559 --> 00:21:35,599 quite frankly, could play on both sides of the ball. 411 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,799 He's a great tight end, he could be a linebacker, 412 00:21:38,799 --> 00:21:44,000 he could be a defensive end. His recruiting was very hot, 413 00:21:44,079 --> 00:21:46,240 I guess is the way you put it. There were 414 00:21:46,279 --> 00:21:49,799 a lot of great teams that were trying to get him. 415 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,240 You know, him being a member of the church I 416 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,720 think was a big deal. But just also and more 417 00:21:54,759 --> 00:21:56,880 than anything, just the feel he had when he was 418 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,279 on campus and to the coaches, I. 419 00:21:59,279 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 5: Think was a big deal. 420 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 6: You'll coach Papinga did a phenomenal job recruiting him and 421 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,880 he will be a huge asset to our program. 422 00:22:09,599 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: That's Jay Hill discussing, you know. 423 00:22:12,759 --> 00:22:14,839 Speaker 3: I mean, look, there's gonna be a lot of these 424 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,960 guys that are Latter Day Saints, high level football players. 425 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:23,200 They had a great experience on campus and they have 426 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,200 a great recruiting experience. K Pop is one of the 427 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,000 best recruiters I've ever been. I remember he's recruited Kyle Vanoy, 428 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:35,160 recruited Fred Warner, recruited Shyoni Taki Taki. You look at 429 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,960 that LBU in the modern era, and who. 430 00:22:37,759 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 1: Do you attribute it to? Shoot You can attribute. 431 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 3: To Kelly Papinga, your special teams coordinator, your defensive end 432 00:22:44,799 --> 00:22:45,440 edge coach. 433 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,799 Speaker 1: It's no surprise there, Jay Hill giving some love. 434 00:22:48,839 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 3: Any thoughts there, any commentary from you, Ronald before we 435 00:22:51,519 --> 00:22:52,400 get into the sound. 436 00:22:52,839 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 7: Yeah, Look, anytime you beat out a SEC school, you 437 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,680 have to take it into account. But it doesn't matter 438 00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,880 even with them being a member of the church. Ben, 439 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:01,440 I think the big thing is bo you've been in 440 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:02,359 the conference, because that was. 441 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 8: The case before. Look, I go back to the interview 442 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:05,039 that we did. 443 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 7: We had Andrew gentry On Bau wasn't in a conference, right, 444 00:23:08,599 --> 00:23:10,319 he served a mission, he's a member of the church. 445 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,960 He was grew up in Colorado, like not too far right, 446 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,319 you can get there in a day and back. 447 00:23:15,079 --> 00:23:16,319 Speaker 8: But they didn't get them. 448 00:23:16,559 --> 00:23:19,079 Speaker 7: So I think that's the nature of you have to 449 00:23:19,079 --> 00:23:21,079 be in a high level conference first of all to 450 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,200 be able to do that kids. You know, the last 451 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,000 thing is kids getting their market rate, but high level 452 00:23:25,079 --> 00:23:27,480 education is the next one. At BYU, then they're getting 453 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,799 developing an opportunity. Like I look at Braxton Lindsay Ben, 454 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,039 if he plays his potential, you know, Kelly Papenka recruiting 455 00:23:33,079 --> 00:23:35,880 him in justin and and depending his room like he's 456 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,079 up there, I think in the room with Nucy tom Apayi. 457 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,319 He's a guy that can play at the next level, 458 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,319 right if all goes well and playing you know, violent 459 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:44,160 in this defense. 460 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 8: But you got to get those players. 461 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 7: And I always say this, first, you got a win 462 00:23:48,039 --> 00:23:50,200 a year backyard Colinie mentioned that you missed that sound. 463 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:51,519 We played it in the first hour of the show. 464 00:23:51,559 --> 00:23:54,160 Go download it on the podcast. Now they're getting to 465 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,640 the point where getting the high level LDS telling across 466 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:57,079 the world. 467 00:23:57,319 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 8: That's what you got to go next. 468 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 7: Now they're starting to hit home runs on that and 469 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:01,960 they're just going to keep building and building. 470 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:04,319 Speaker 1: Let's get back to it. 471 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 3: Jay Hill discussing the siding class of twenty twenty six. 472 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 8: Next question from Brandon Gurney. 473 00:24:12,519 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 9: Yeah, Kellaway a Khanna is a player who's literally played 474 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,200 every position on the football field. How do you see 475 00:24:17,279 --> 00:24:21,160 him fitting in defensively for your team in the coming years? 476 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 5: Well, I love him. 477 00:24:22,799 --> 00:24:25,079 Speaker 6: When we first offered him, it was more as a 478 00:24:25,079 --> 00:24:27,559 wide receiver. I know FESTI loved him as well, and 479 00:24:27,599 --> 00:24:30,559 then he just kept growing and getting bigger, and when 480 00:24:30,599 --> 00:24:32,440 we went to one of his football games, man, he 481 00:24:32,519 --> 00:24:33,119 will hit you. 482 00:24:34,319 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 5: He's physical. 483 00:24:35,599 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 6: He's athletic enough to be a wide receiver on the 484 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,400 other side of the ball, but he's physical enough to 485 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,880 be a safety or a linebacker on defense. I think 486 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,279 a lot of him depends on how he continues to grow. 487 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,799 He just keeps getting bigger and bigger. But he has 488 00:24:48,839 --> 00:24:51,799 a super bright future here at BYU and then and 489 00:24:51,839 --> 00:24:54,599 then beyond. I mean he is a very very good talent. 490 00:24:57,279 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: Next question from Jake Hash Yeah. 491 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 6: Jay, as you go about building out these recruiting classes, 492 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,559 are you looking for I guess I call it an 493 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,599 archetype or like a certain type of player. 494 00:25:10,599 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 5: Do you have a different things you're looking at different 495 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:12,599 positions for. 496 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,559 Speaker 6: Well, we for sure have measurables that that we look for. 497 00:25:17,559 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 5: At every position. 498 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 6: Ideally, you want big, strong, fast guys at every position. 499 00:25:23,039 --> 00:25:27,599 But the reality is football players come in all shapes 500 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,319 and sizes. You can have, like a good example, you 501 00:25:30,319 --> 00:25:33,079 could have a d tackle like Aaron Donald that's six foot, 502 00:25:33,559 --> 00:25:35,400 two hundred and sixty five pounds and he could be 503 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,160 one of the best in the NFL, where most people 504 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,279 want those guys to be six five three twenty. They 505 00:25:41,319 --> 00:25:43,920 come in all shapes and sizes, and so what we 506 00:25:44,039 --> 00:25:47,039 have to do as coaches is decide how big do 507 00:25:47,079 --> 00:25:51,000 we want them? Ideally and are you willing to take 508 00:25:51,079 --> 00:25:53,599 a guy that might be a little better player but 509 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,400 he's not quite as big as you want, or he's 510 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,319 not as fast as you want, but he's just phenomenal 511 00:25:59,319 --> 00:26:02,759 at everything he does. There's some give and take and 512 00:26:02,799 --> 00:26:06,279 there's some experience that goes into that that you need 513 00:26:06,319 --> 00:26:09,039 to have. Bottom line, we want the best football players 514 00:26:09,039 --> 00:26:11,720 we can get, and if they meet the measurables, that's 515 00:26:11,759 --> 00:26:13,599 a huge blessing obviously. 516 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 8: And the reason I ask is because you have an 517 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,039 twenty zero or TJ. 518 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:18,599 Speaker 1: Johnson, he's six foot four. 519 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 8: You have a saint ry On Vollative was six four 520 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:21,079 to sixty five. 521 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 5: I just wonder, like, are. 522 00:26:22,319 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 8: You looking for like tall dudes and that's offensive secondary. 523 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 6: I guess the lack of a better term, well, we 524 00:26:27,279 --> 00:26:32,400 want length in general. So I just I think at 525 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,559 every position, the longer you are as long as assuming 526 00:26:36,599 --> 00:26:38,119 they can do their their. 527 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 5: Job, I think that that's a good thing. 528 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 6: You want long levered defenders that make windows smaller. That's 529 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,039 a good thing. You want range at the safety spot. 530 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,200 So that's one thing about TJ. Like he's tall, but 531 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,240 he can really run. And he's another guy that could 532 00:26:54,279 --> 00:26:57,759 be a wide receiver. He's got great wide receiver film 533 00:26:57,839 --> 00:26:58,480 and he can. 534 00:26:58,400 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 5: Track the ball. 535 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,039 Speaker 6: He'll be a great asset to us in the secondary. 536 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,359 Just a rangy, long levered safety. 537 00:27:06,759 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 10: Next question from Dana Green, Hey, Jay, you've been in 538 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,720 this state for quite some time. How have you seen 539 00:27:14,839 --> 00:27:17,640 the level of talent improve in the state of Utah. 540 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,839 It seems like it's on par with some of the 541 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,920 other states. They're producing some of the best talent in 542 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:24,480 the country. 543 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 6: Well, it's phenomenal, but we don't want anybody else coming 544 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,119 in here to take them, so. 545 00:27:32,559 --> 00:27:34,079 Speaker 5: Just everybody else can stay away. 546 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 6: I think the biggest thing that's occurred is the coaching 547 00:27:37,759 --> 00:27:42,279 has got really good. The development continues to get better 548 00:27:42,319 --> 00:27:44,759 and better. We've always had really good players in the 549 00:27:44,759 --> 00:27:46,720 state of Utah. I just think they're getting developed a 550 00:27:46,759 --> 00:27:51,799 little bit better now. I think population increases have helped that. 551 00:27:52,039 --> 00:27:56,119 We just have more players playing in the state of Utah. 552 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,200 But yeah, I think the high school coaches are doing 553 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,720 a phenomenal job of developing guys and just having them 554 00:28:01,759 --> 00:28:06,160 ready to play, and and the quality of person that 555 00:28:06,279 --> 00:28:09,039 you can recruit in the state of Utah. We we 556 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,880 in Utah have disciplined kids that are used to working hard, 557 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:17,200 They're used to getting good grades, they're used to doing 558 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,440 things right, and that usually in the long run, correlates 559 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,400 well to good football players. 560 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:32,039 Speaker 11: Last question from Mitch Harper, Jay I wanted to ask 561 00:28:32,079 --> 00:28:36,319 you about Adam Bywater, How is he similar and different 562 00:28:36,559 --> 00:28:38,200 to than his brother Ben? 563 00:28:39,279 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 5: Well, it's that's a fun comparison. 564 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,079 Speaker 6: I don't know if it's fair or not, but Ben 565 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:47,000 Ben was obviously a phenomenal player here and we see 566 00:28:47,039 --> 00:28:52,559 so many similar characteristics. We see length, athleticism, physicality, so 567 00:28:52,599 --> 00:28:55,279 many of those things that we see in that we 568 00:28:55,319 --> 00:28:59,920 saw in Ben Adam has. I think Adam's actually big, 569 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,720 you're at this stage. I think he has a tremendous upside, 570 00:29:03,759 --> 00:29:06,839 just as Ben did. We are so excited to have him, 571 00:29:06,839 --> 00:29:08,920 and I think he's a perfect fit here at b YU. 572 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:15,119 Speaker 1: All Right, there you go. 573 00:29:15,279 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 3: That's Jay Hill, Ladies and Gentlemen, defensive coordinator for the 574 00:29:19,519 --> 00:29:23,759 BYU Cougar football team, discussing some of those recruits from 575 00:29:23,799 --> 00:29:27,359 this twenty twenty six class. Got some great ones, got 576 00:29:27,359 --> 00:29:30,519 some good ones. I do appreciate him going off on 577 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,440 the high school coaches, and I'll second that I always 578 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,599 talking about the parents. We have great parents, goodly parents 579 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,440 who love the Lord, who love academics, who love sport, 580 00:29:41,839 --> 00:29:44,839 and these kids are raised in that environment in Lombe Hall. 581 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,680 They come out and they're ready to be high level 582 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:53,279 people in high level places. So yes, the coaching has elevated, 583 00:29:53,559 --> 00:29:57,960 but the clay is phenomenal. You're breeding well and you're 584 00:29:58,079 --> 00:30:01,839 also raising them well. Any thoughts, any commentary there as 585 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,880 it pertains to any of the players at them Bywater 586 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,240 Braxton lind see any of these defensive players that Jay 587 00:30:08,319 --> 00:30:10,119 Hill commented on Ronald the three man Weaver. 588 00:30:10,559 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the biggest thing is kind of something 589 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,160 he said in it. And now have to come and 590 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,960 play first to apply this. But he said they're all 591 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,960 good players. He said, we love them and no one 592 00:30:19,039 --> 00:30:21,359 take them. I like, right, and I bring it up 593 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,119 because been just because now this day and age, if 594 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,400 these guys come in and they play or with the 595 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,319 portal and with nil right, like you very well could 596 00:30:30,359 --> 00:30:32,039 have a kid that comes in at plays that could 597 00:30:32,119 --> 00:30:34,400 go elsewhere, like it happens all the time. We've seen 598 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,680 our recruit to two coming during spring ball and then 599 00:30:36,759 --> 00:30:39,240 leave after it's over and go elsewhere. Right, it could 600 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,160 still happen. It's not a guarantee that these kids will stay. 601 00:30:42,279 --> 00:30:44,680 You hope that they do, but our minds some people, look, 602 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,680 you lost Keilen Mary and he played well, didn't he? 603 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,759 Harrison Taggart, he was a good football player, right, Crew 604 00:30:49,759 --> 00:30:53,240 Weiglely good football player. Like, so it's possible with the 605 00:30:53,279 --> 00:30:55,839 transferport of nil you could lose some of them. Still, 606 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,119 I think that's the nature of just how the business 607 00:30:58,119 --> 00:31:00,079 operates at the end of the day. But I I 608 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,279 just love that Jay Hills said to like, no one 609 00:31:02,359 --> 00:31:04,599 take them, but I mean they still could be poached. 610 00:31:04,599 --> 00:31:06,200 And I mean, look, I think there are people on 611 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,160 this roster even with Klanney's extension, that they'll still try 612 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,000 to poach these players. 613 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,519 Speaker 8: That helps to stay right. But that's just the nature we. 614 00:31:12,519 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 7: Live in is someone's always looking for a pay raise 615 00:31:15,759 --> 00:31:18,480 elsewhere looking You can't really fault people right at the 616 00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:20,759 end of today, Like I asked people this question all 617 00:31:20,799 --> 00:31:21,079 the time. 618 00:31:21,119 --> 00:31:22,559 Speaker 8: What you and Bred discussed yesterday. 619 00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 7: If someone came and offered you more money to do 620 00:31:24,519 --> 00:31:26,839 the job, the same job you're doing elsewhere, you would 621 00:31:26,839 --> 00:31:29,240 contemplate that. Don't tell me that you wouldn't like It's 622 00:31:29,319 --> 00:31:31,400 just end of today. That's how life goes. 623 00:31:32,119 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: All right. So that was the final question right from 624 00:31:35,279 --> 00:31:35,920 for j Hill. 625 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 3: All right, let's get into a Rod your offensive coordinator 626 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,359 and quarterbacks coach. We get that here momentarily as we 627 00:31:44,279 --> 00:31:46,319 break down all the news and notes coming out of 628 00:31:46,359 --> 00:31:49,599 the twenty twenty six signing class. This is Aaron Roderick 629 00:31:50,319 --> 00:31:51,640 discussing his signs. 630 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:57,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, Aaron, are you expecting a quarterback command who shall 631 00:31:57,359 --> 00:32:01,000 remain nameless to sign before the early sighting period ends. 632 00:32:01,519 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 12: We're expecting a few more players to sign. There's there's 633 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,079 a few guys that haven't signed yet. 634 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: Okay. 635 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:11,559 Speaker 2: I wanted to also ask about your tight ends, brod 636 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,480 Harris Parker, Ord tight Getch. Your just thoughts on on 637 00:32:15,559 --> 00:32:20,640 that trio and just the competitive nature of the battles 638 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,000 to get those guys here to by you. 639 00:32:22,559 --> 00:32:24,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, three big time players. 640 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:25,599 Speaker 8: Those guys can all play. 641 00:32:25,839 --> 00:32:30,119 Speaker 12: And you know, we've been trying to build up the 642 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,839 tight end position again to what it should be at 643 00:32:32,839 --> 00:32:36,039 BYU and getting some good production this year out of 644 00:32:36,039 --> 00:32:39,359 our tight ends, and these guys are all part of 645 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,839 that future where you know that that should be a 646 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,920 position of strength for us. We feel like and it's 647 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,839 it's going to be in the in the near future. 648 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,119 Speaker 8: The three very good football players all. 649 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 12: We're super excited for all three of them. 650 00:32:54,759 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 8: Next question from Danna Green. 651 00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 10: Hey, Aaron, I just kind of want to get your 652 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,960 perspective on how the local talent has progressed here in 653 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,200 this state. You're getting top notch guys year and a 654 00:33:07,319 --> 00:33:09,240 year out, and this this year seems. 655 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 11: To be different. 656 00:33:10,559 --> 00:33:10,799 Speaker 1: Yeah. 657 00:33:10,839 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 12: I think, well, this state has been really good, a 658 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,519 good football state for quite a while now, and it 659 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,440 just gets better and better every year. I think it's, 660 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:23,960 you know, first of all, the quality of talent just 661 00:33:24,079 --> 00:33:27,759 keeps increasing, you know, just talented kids that it used 662 00:33:27,759 --> 00:33:29,559 to be just lignemen in the state. You know, maybe 663 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,039 maybe guys that play in the box and once in 664 00:33:32,039 --> 00:33:33,839 a while a skill guy here and there. But now 665 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:40,319 in Utah you're finding skill players, quarterbacks, lignemen, tight ends, 666 00:33:40,359 --> 00:33:41,680 you know, all of it, running backs. 667 00:33:41,839 --> 00:33:42,559 Speaker 1: This is. 668 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,279 Speaker 12: The quality of play is just improving every year. And 669 00:33:46,319 --> 00:33:49,400 I think it's also the quality of coaching. High school 670 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,440 coaching in the state is very good and so players 671 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,359 are being well developed in their high school programs and 672 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,160 showing up ready to play young early in their career. 673 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,359 Speaker 2: The next question from Jake Hash, Yeah, Aaron, you built 674 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,319 a reputation had a physical run game. 675 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 8: I just want to ask you about Devon Echa and 676 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,519 what he brings and is he the only running back 677 00:34:10,559 --> 00:34:11,280 we're going to bring in. 678 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 5: You think, Uh, yeah, Devon. 679 00:34:13,559 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 12: I got a chance to see him play last year 680 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,960 against I think it was Skyridge. I went to the 681 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,159 game and was super impressed him in person, and then 682 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,760 he just got even better this year. And I think 683 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,760 he's a really really good player. You know, he runs 684 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,360 hard between the tackles, but he has speed, he can 685 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,360 make you miss. He's a good receiver, just good all 686 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,920 round player. We're super excited for him, you know, I 687 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:40,159 think he's a true three skill back. And then the 688 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,519 running back position that high school wise, we're done there. 689 00:34:43,599 --> 00:34:46,280 You know, we'll we'll see after the season where we're 690 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,719 at with people's health and and you know that position. 691 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,920 We're a little thin there this year obviously with what's 692 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,960 happened with Siona, and we thought there was a good 693 00:34:56,039 --> 00:34:58,400 chance we would have fullal back this year. Hinkley were 694 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,519 pot to you and didn't get him back, and so 695 00:35:00,599 --> 00:35:04,280 we'll we're still evaluating that, but we are very, very 696 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:05,119 excited about the Vaughn. 697 00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:07,639 Speaker 6: When the guys are in front of the offensive line, 698 00:35:07,679 --> 00:35:10,000 guys like Jacks Tanner bought move of tallow et cetera, 699 00:35:10,079 --> 00:35:12,519 Like what do you making your offensive line grabs so far? 700 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,320 Speaker 1: Again, very good group. Man. 701 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,559 Speaker 12: That's uh, those are highly recruited guys. 702 00:35:17,599 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 8: We had to beat really good, really. 703 00:35:19,119 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 12: Good programs to get those guys, and those are guys 704 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:27,159 that are gonna be I would expect those guys to 705 00:35:27,199 --> 00:35:29,440 compete for playing time very early in their career, if 706 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:30,119 not right away. 707 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:37,519 Speaker 10: Next question from Brandon Gurney. 708 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,039 Speaker 9: Yeah, I wanted to ask you about your your receiver 709 00:35:40,119 --> 00:35:43,280 commits at Terrence and and I'm assuming Legend Glass gonna 710 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,880 play receiver for you. Just speak about them and their 711 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,360 ability and what and what bands can have suspect for 712 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:48,880 most team. 713 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:52,039 Speaker 8: Yeah. 714 00:35:52,119 --> 00:35:57,639 Speaker 12: Yeah, so just good football players, good speed. You know, 715 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,880 we we our receiver play I think has been very 716 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,039 underrated to hear during the time we've been here. We've 717 00:36:03,079 --> 00:36:05,760 had a lot of good receivers in the last several years. 718 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,719 And I feel like these guys are you know, they 719 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:14,039 have speed, all of them can run, they all change direction, 720 00:36:15,119 --> 00:36:19,239 good ball skills, got some good length there in that group. 721 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,440 And again, I think those are guys that are smart 722 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,119 guys that can come in and learn what we're doing 723 00:36:24,119 --> 00:36:27,719 and play early. And you know, when you can stretch 724 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:32,079 the field, you know, like like Legend can, and you know, 725 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,239 and like Terrence and Graham. 726 00:36:35,159 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 5: Stretched the field. 727 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 12: That really helps our play action passing game. That fits 728 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,960 with our run game. You know, we want to be 729 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,639 physical and we want to stretch the field and throw 730 00:36:42,639 --> 00:36:44,800 it down the field to these guys that can run. 731 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,440 So we're excited about that group. 732 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 4: The next question from j Drew Aaron regarding the player 733 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:58,679 and the quarterback that Nature referenced. Should e Yu fans 734 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,639 Kubernation be concerned in any way that he's not signing today. 735 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 12: I can't comment about any individual, uh player, but we 736 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,760 are gonna have some more guys sign and there's there's 737 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,840 a there's a few more several that I know of 738 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,400 that are still coming. 739 00:37:17,159 --> 00:37:19,079 Speaker 4: And then what has been the effect? 740 00:37:19,079 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 12: And and I will say, Uh, I think our quarterback 741 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,880 play here has been really good for a while now, 742 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,760 and so it's gonna continue to be really good. And 743 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,519 no matter who's here, we're gonna keep We're gonna keep 744 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:32,960 playing at a high level at QB. 745 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,559 Speaker 4: I was just gonna ask you about Bear but the 746 00:37:36,559 --> 00:37:41,960 Bear Backmeyer effect his success, how has that affected recruiting quarterbacks? 747 00:37:43,519 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 12: I don't think it's it's not a negative. I mean, 748 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,119 I think it's if anything, that's positive you know, I 749 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,320 QB's most quarterbacks want to go to a place where 750 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,679 there's been a history of good quarterback play and. 751 00:37:54,599 --> 00:37:56,079 Speaker 8: It and especially a recent history. 752 00:37:56,119 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 12: I mean, I obviously the quarterback play here going back 753 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,440 in the old days was unbelievable, and it's we've had 754 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,000 as good of a tradition at this school is as 755 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:08,960 you know, almost as good as anywhere in the country. 756 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,639 But I think with quarterback recruits, your recent history is 757 00:38:13,679 --> 00:38:16,920 what really matters the most, and ours has been solid, 758 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,559 and so when we recruit quarterbacks, they're usually interested in 759 00:38:20,559 --> 00:38:23,320 this place. And I also think that it's a unique 760 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,119 position where qbs are confident guys, the great ones believe 761 00:38:27,159 --> 00:38:29,840 in themselves and they don't worry too much about who's 762 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,039 in front of them or who's. 763 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 5: Who's already there. 764 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,159 Speaker 12: You know, they usually believe, I'm gonna go be the guy. 765 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:39,960 And and so I haven't had any buddies say I 766 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,320 don't want to I'm not interested in BYU because you're 767 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,199 starting a freshman that has not been has not come 768 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:45,639 up yet. 769 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 11: Next question from Mitch Harper, Aaron, I'm curious if you 770 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,239 could speak to how maybe deeper. 771 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 2: The pool is of candidates that you and this offensive 772 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:03,519 staff can so since you arrived at BUYU in twenty eighteen, 773 00:39:03,639 --> 00:39:07,159 just maybe the the growth it's of all since you 774 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,000 and this staff have been. 775 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 6: Here at b YU. 776 00:39:11,199 --> 00:39:12,119 Speaker 8: Yeah, that's a good point. 777 00:39:12,159 --> 00:39:14,679 Speaker 12: You know, when we first got here, I think my 778 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,079 first year here, I think it had been four and 779 00:39:16,199 --> 00:39:20,159 nine season. The year before we were an independent, independent team, 780 00:39:21,039 --> 00:39:24,079 and we had some work to do, and then slowly 781 00:39:24,119 --> 00:39:27,599 been building the program up year by year in a 782 00:39:27,679 --> 00:39:29,119 lot of ways. You know, some of it's been our 783 00:39:29,159 --> 00:39:33,039 recruiting efforts, some of it's been winning games on the field, 784 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,239 and then joining the Big Twelve was a big part 785 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:36,480 of it. 786 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:38,840 Speaker 8: Being successful in the Big Twelve. 787 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,119 Speaker 1: You know, we weren't very good. 788 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,800 Speaker 12: The first year and having success the last two years 789 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,800 that helps. And then just the university just you know, 790 00:39:47,199 --> 00:39:55,159 making incremental improvements and additions to our program that make 791 00:39:55,199 --> 00:39:58,000 this place more attractive for big time players. And so 792 00:39:58,320 --> 00:39:59,960 it all fits together. It's all of it, you know, 793 00:40:00,159 --> 00:40:03,119 and I think that's why we're getting you know, you 794 00:40:03,519 --> 00:40:05,719 look at who we beat, the schools we're beating on 795 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,800 some of these recruits. Now it's like we're actually we're 796 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,760 recruiting a much higher level at a higher level than 797 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,360 we were when I first got here. 798 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 1: All Right, all right, there you have it. That's Aaron Roderick. Okay. 799 00:40:21,679 --> 00:40:24,760 Speaker 3: Obviously Rider Lions ended up signing E Sciding, so there's 800 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,480 a lot of questions about Rider Lions there. 801 00:40:28,119 --> 00:40:30,199 Speaker 1: I do love the fact. 802 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:34,199 Speaker 3: That he made an emphasis of how good the quarterback 803 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,960 play has been at BYU since his arrival. Look and 804 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:43,039 look quarterback play. It's quarterback QBU the quarterback factory. Right Like, 805 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,599 I do think there was probably a drop off at times. 806 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,599 There's been undulations at times, but consistently be what you 807 00:40:49,639 --> 00:40:54,639 attract really good quarterbacks in the modern era. Right you 808 00:40:54,679 --> 00:40:58,719 have you have you know Sark being one of the best. 809 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,599 And I go back, you know now almost thirty years now, 810 00:41:02,519 --> 00:41:09,800 John Beck was, trom Brandon Doman was tremendous obviously, you know, 811 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,519 you get into the Max Hall Arrow that was awesome. 812 00:41:13,039 --> 00:41:18,800 Taysom Hill was obviously a unique and singular human being 813 00:41:19,119 --> 00:41:22,239 and thorderback. You know, you're just in a leave of 814 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,760 his own as an athlete after that game. You know, 815 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,760 Tum Tanner Mangham was a good quarterback, obviously the lead 816 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,239 over the quarter. He had injuries, he had some mental 817 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,920 health issues, while at BYU. That kind of set him back, 818 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,519 I think, but he had tremendous potential. He just had 819 00:41:37,599 --> 00:41:41,199 kind of an undulating, an undulating career. But I think, 820 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,920 if I'm not mistaken, if I pull up his stats here, 821 00:41:45,119 --> 00:41:48,960 give me a moment, I think he's like top twelve 822 00:41:49,639 --> 00:41:51,519 in passing yards. 823 00:41:51,559 --> 00:41:54,360 Speaker 1: Anyway, Tanner was a great quarterback. 824 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,559 Speaker 3: Then you have the Zach Wilson era, the Jared Hall era, 825 00:41:58,400 --> 00:41:59,719 you have Keton Slovas. 826 00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:02,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, Baylor Romney is also really good. Like people forget, 827 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:03,960 Baylor Romney's really good quarterback. 828 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 3: And in any other year he could have led by 829 00:42:08,079 --> 00:42:10,760 you to Glorin victory throughout an entirety of a season 830 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,719 at any rate. Now you're in the in the in 831 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,280 the j you got the Jake redslav era. And now 832 00:42:16,599 --> 00:42:18,519 and look at what Jake's doing. Jake Verri could be 833 00:42:18,519 --> 00:42:21,320 an NFL quarterback. And now you got Bear Bach. My 834 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,719 rider lines is the next of many or other quarterbacks 835 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:28,920 coming in. So, guys, great comments, great segments. Support our sponsors. Guys, 836 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,280 we can't do our show without our sponsors. Download the podcast. 837 00:42:33,159 --> 00:42:35,440 Listen to us every day here on your Utah ESPN 838 00:42:35,519 --> 00:42:36,039 Radio network. 839 00:42:36,079 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 1: Two to six PM. Shout out to everyone they joined us. 840 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,119 Speaker 3: Big Cougar Roar to Ronnie Bigada, Brett Vic and all 841 00:42:42,159 --> 00:42:45,039 of our guests. Guys, we'll be back tomorrow. 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