Speaker 1: Hey everyone, Tony here. You might have noticed that there
was no episode this week. Last week I got sick
after my event at dhs Fest, and then I had
an event this past weekend in Rochester and I wasn't
able to finish editing the episode. But I am doing
it now and it should be up tomorrow on the
video feed and then the next day on the audio feed.
But since I feel bad you guys didn't get an episode,
I decided to upload an episode I did of movie
Dumpster called Carnoisaur. You might have seen me on their
show recently doing Proteus. This was the episode I did
before that with them, and you guys know I love Carnosaur.
I bring it up a lot, and I've reviewed two
and three on Patreon as well as doing a commentary
track for it with Clayton Fierti. But this is the
first time I did like a full on review of Carnoisaur,
a movie that I love based off of book and
has nothing to do with the book. And uh yeah,
I think you'll enjoy this episode and stand by, you'll
get two episodes this week, so look forward to that.
And sorry again, I tried my best, all right, enjoyed
this bonus episode.
Speaker 2: Welcome Back to Movie Dumpster, Season eight, episode sixteen. Today
we're talking about Carnosaur from nineteen ninety three, directed by
Adam Simon and does Roger Corman's Carnosaur stomp Jurassic Park.
We're gonna find out. I'm Joela Scola, I'm Seana Rourke.
Speaker 1: I'm Tony from Acla Movies.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the Dumpster. Welcome my Green brothers. How's everybody
doing today on this Carnoisaur celebration.
Speaker 3: I cannot believe you just revealed my secret identity of
the world. Yes, I'm an alien.
Speaker 1: He's a reptiliare.
Speaker 3: This is just my skin suit.
Speaker 1: You need to know the past.
Speaker 3: Go to get through showing. It's definitely not mixed and click.
You need some sugar water, Yeah, some sugar in my water.
My skin's barely hanging on right, Joe, exactly.
Speaker 1: Welcome. Also, by the way, Tony.
Speaker 2: The Movies here, he is in his glory.
Speaker 1: So happy. I feel like I just saw you guys,
but I'm happy to be back.
Speaker 2: Well, we gotta talk some connoisseur dude.
Speaker 1: We do, and it's I'm glad you have me on here. Uh,
to get plugs out of the way early. But I've
reviewed Carnosaur two and three on Patreon, yes, and I've
done a commentary for this movie.
Speaker 2: The first one, but I've never actually reviewed it.
Speaker 1: Well, here we are. I saved. I saved that for you.
I saved my Carnosaur virginity for you. If you go there.
I wanted. I wanted my first review of special and
with two men, much like my real first.
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Speaker 2: So, yeah, boys, Carnosaur. This has been a long time
coming for the Dumpster Boys. We've talked this, We talked
about this a lot, and before we kind of jump
in everything, you know, before we jump into behind the scenes.
I want to have everybody get their experience out of
growing up with Carnosaur.
Speaker 1: Well, I I can go first, you can go for it.
So how I discovered Carnosaur. My parents came home with
like a bootleg copy of Carnosaur two. Okay, didn't even rent.
I guess there was a guy used to sell tapes
near my mom's work. They were just like recorded off stuff,
and they gave her Carnoisaur two. And then my dad
was like, hey, we got you the new Jurassic Park,
the Lost World that was before even the Lost Girl
came out. And I went, there's another one and he's like, yeah,
here it is. And my dad, I guess, was unaware
that I could read. And I went, this word be
this one. This is just one word.
Speaker 2: I don't worry about it to re.
Speaker 1: Begins with the C. But there's the two at the end.
I'm like I guess I'll put it on you wager rop.
Speaker 2: I watched Cardi Churassic Park.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I watched carcisso Or two, not knowing what happened
in Carnisour one, but it was easy to follow the
plot because it's just aliens. It's literally the plot of aliens,
only they're electricians, not marines. And instead of Newt it's
John Connor. No, I'm not lying. Yep, the kid they
find it looks exactly like John Connor, and he even
has the hacking device they did.
Speaker 3: They have a terminator go back in time and shoot
them while he's drinking up.
Speaker 1: If they had time, I'm sure they would.
Speaker 2: They got Miguel Junior in there.
Speaker 1: Then I watched the tape a million times. Uh, And
eventually I would rent the first Cardosoer because I was
so lost in the story. I needed to know saw
a lost world. No, no, I mean I saw that too.
That was okay, it's no Carnisaur. And eventually I watched
Carnissur three, and I watched them a lot in the nineties.
And I'm looking at this DVD case here. I wanted
that DVD case. Pan This DVD case you could buy
these individual DVDs for like nothing. What are you pointing at?
For audio listeners? Sole me point this out here. So
this DVD case, which you might remember me holding in
a clip with McCaulay culkin when I asked him to
talk about Carnosaur, where did you get that from this? No,
that's mine, I know, I know that's here. No, I'm
saying I've always wanted this. Oh gotcha, So I've looked
it up. I can get these DVDs really really cheap,
these same three DVDs in this cardboard case. Very expensive.
Speaker 2: The cardboard.
Speaker 1: Yes, apparently you just put so I might just buy
the DVDs and print this.
Speaker 3: Out so that finally gets creating. Is what Joe's been
telling me to for years. Don't throw the slip kens out,
just save them for save them years later.
Speaker 1: So yeah, just to retum, you know I love Carnisaur
and we if you're a fan of this channel and
my channel, it's very documented how I covet the Carnoisaur
clock two clock.
Speaker 3: Going back to the Texas Chainsaw for our first video episode.
Speaker 1: You were looking at it. This is the this is
the grail item right here. Yeah, but not anymore Joe.
Some people might know that I own a Carnosur Troupe poster,
but I recently just got a Carnosaur one post.
Speaker 2: And it's fucking sick. Dude.
Speaker 1: I still want the clock, but I will be content
with my posters for now.
Speaker 2: I won't upset you and tell you that I have
both Carnosaur one and two one sheets as well.
Speaker 1: You probably can't see this. Could you could have just
let me have this one. You couldn't let me have
this one, Joe.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I have something else too, but I'll show that
one when I.
Speaker 3: Was gonna stay in the corner there. You can't really
see it now that Tony's rolling up. It's from the
the Academy of Science and Horror Films Science Fiction and
Horror Films, the Golden Scroll Award.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's my experience with carn Lover. How about you, guys.
Speaker 3: I was not bathed in or baptized in fire like
you Tony.
Speaker 1: Carnheized and chicken for Summerson.
Speaker 3: For a second there, I thought this thing could shoot
fire out of its mouth, But no, that the browser
with the Mario shirt through me.
Speaker 1: I'm in Dino City over my side of the Dungeon.
Speaker 2: He belongs in Copa City.
Speaker 3: My experience as a child didn't fucking have one shocker
on this show with a movie brought to the table
from Joe and Tony to some extent, but by proxy.
Speaker 1: I guess h No.
Speaker 3: Last year I watched this because for my day job,
I worked for James Rolfover at Cinemascer. He finally reviewed
it for his Halloween series Monster Madness, and I.
Speaker 1: Had to edit the videos.
Speaker 3: I was like, I guess I should finally fuck go
watch this again. Joe and Tony for years have been
telling me it's great watching What are you doing?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Carnoisaur Funny enough. When rental reviews was still
going on, we had list of movies we wanted to
do and I had car on there. We never got
to it.
Speaker 3: Apparently that was also James's first viewing for anyone at
home that cares, So that was my first viewing, which
I wasn't crazy about it. Second viewing for this episode,
maybe that's changed.
Speaker 1: We'll find out.
Speaker 2: Well, it's stay tuned. Yeah, just like you Tone, this
movie has filtrated my life since I was a wee
little one. Of course, Drastic Park dropped I'm a little
older than you, not too much. I'm on like three
years older than you.
Speaker 1: I'm about to turn thirty six.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna be thirty eight.
Speaker 1: Ok. Yeah this year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna be thirty eighth.
Speaker 1: Checks out.
Speaker 2: I saw Drastic Park. I remember vividly my father take
me to go see Drastic Park when it came out,
and it wasn't allowed.
Speaker 1: I got to see the Little Rascals movie The Grassic Park.
We actually got a bootleg. My uncle got a bootleg.
Speaker 3: Someone with the cam in the back of the theater
couldn't fucking tell it.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 2: I mean, like most little boys, I was really into dinosaurs,
like so much so that I wanted to be a
paleontologist when I was a kid. So Drassic Park comes
out and this hits video. I didn't see this in
the theater, of course. Yeah, but this hits video. But
it's among things that I've all that I've rented a
lot as a kid as well. Like it's a New
Horizons joint, so you got Munchie in there, you got
step Monster, you got all the New Concord shit. So
this falls into that category because it's a Roger Corman joint.
So when it hit home video, immediately of course I
rented it. There's a big dinosaur on the cover, and
it was like, holy ship, there's actually people getting eaten
by dinosaurs in this movie and like getting their gut
drip out and stuff. So as a little as little Joey,
it was. It was amazing. And then of course Cornosaur
two and three came out, So I've been a huge
fan of Cornoisaurs since I can remember. I got some
good stuff over here I picked. I remember specifically, I've
told the story about going to Sun Coast and having
my stack of movies my list I would i'd hand over.
Speaker 1: That's where I saw this. That's where I saw this box, and.
Speaker 2: That's where I got it because it was coming out
and I fucking was like, well, I need the Cornosaur
collection on DVD. So I grabbed that, and then I
have all the Cornosaurs on VHS, but they're in the
other room it is. But this specifically, what I'm pointing
at is the Carnosaur VHS box set, which I didn't
even know existed, and my buddy Rick had that at
a convention or at a show. It was one of
the criffety shows. The first time I met Rick was
was in Baltimore and he had that, and that was
that's how I met Rick. I was like, dude, I
fucking need that, and He's like all right, And then
that's how we became friends.
Speaker 1: Crip videos where I got this laser disc.
Speaker 2: Oh there you go. See, I don't have the laser discs, man,
you got me beat on those, but I do have
a carn store two o clock. I got this fucking
shit when eBay was like just starting so like to.
Speaker 1: Like early two thousands, like two thousand and five.
Speaker 2: Fuck West man, I'm still living with my folks and like,
and you know, I was always on the hunt for
movie Memorabilian stuff and this popped up and I fucking
snagged that shit. Meanwhile, on my.
Speaker 3: eBay days, I gotta get this game Boy Advanced Cars
just for like five dollars cheaper.
Speaker 2: Sit there trying to hit the.
Speaker 3: Button for some asshole in their basement on the other
side of the country. Got ww have no mercy for
the fucking game Boy.
Speaker 2: Before the buy it. Now I have to snipe right.
But yeah, and since then, I've I've a crewed a
bunch of different Carnistore stuff. I have posters and shit,
I have some other stuff. I'm gonna show you real quick.
I have a carn Store screener, but the only one
I could find for the show was the Carnosaur two screener.
And I love the screeners because they have like all
like the promo shut on them, and in the screener
it's like, buy six copies of Carnissour two and get
a Carnisour clock. So the Carnosaur two is the one
with the clock and the t shirts. Okay, Carnisfour three
had something really cool. I didn't know either. Yeah, I
just saw today on the on the screener VHS. It's like,
buy twen copies of Carnistore and get this dinosaur or
Carnoisaur three survival kit. And it comes into fucking tin
with like a red cross on it and and the
and it has temporary tattoos, window decals and like shelf
talkers and ship like the little the little guys that
go on the shelf. It said you had to own
a video store to get any of this cool ship.
Speaker 1: Just get it. After that person got.
Speaker 2: Well, this shit comes, you gotta understand, like once video
stars went out of business, everybody was selling their ship,
so if they had promo items like that's where I
got a lot of the standees and stuff was on
like eBay or marketplace or ship like that.
Speaker 1: So that's where I got my cardboard cutout of Terminator
three Arnold. There you got. He was going out of business,
that dude.
Speaker 2: That was great because I remember getting my Freddy and
Jason cut out. It's like two bucks or something crazy
from like Coconuts or some ship. Yeah, but I do
want to show one thing before we keep going. Okay,
sometimes you get lucky and you get a cool score
for not a lot of money. And these were fucking
too cool. I could not pass them up. They are
Carnosaur tie lobby cards.
Speaker 1: That is awesome.
Speaker 2: I believe they're tied with the titular get away Bitch
scene a get away from her you dinosaur.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 2: We got a lot of cool stuff. This one's my
favorite of the little guy and the jeep killing the chick.
That's it's so good and one of my favorite scenes
in the movie when he's like roaring at the sky.
Speaker 1: After that, I think it's his tie.
Speaker 2: Somebody's gonna be like, you're an idiot, it's actually something else,
but whatever, and then my other you know, the iconic
scene at the end, which we'll talk about with the
bobcat of course, and that's it. So I thought these
were really a really cool grab and I got them
for pretty cheap. So that's always a cool, fun thing.
Speaker 1: That seemed is so iconic. They try to one up
it in the next movie with the fork left, but
since they love reusing footage, sometimes it is the bob
kap of the original Corman. You're giving all the Corman. Sorry, sorry,
everyone knows now, just just let them all spill out right.
Speaker 3: It is shocking to me as a kid, I wasn't
into these.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just we've talked about in the
show before.
Speaker 3: Some of the stuff just either my mom didn't let
me watch you, or it wasn't something my dad was
particularly into. So I guess it just kind of went
figuratively and literally over my head because I fucking love
Jurassic Bark yeah so much.
Speaker 1: I had all the toys. Don't know how I missed this.
Speaker 2: I think I think it was definitely like your mom
not letting you see it, and like dad being like,
if I show Sean this, I'm gonna get my fucking
ass handed to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but here's Jaws, here's Alien. Well, they're skip, he's
like universal monitors.
Speaker 2: Yes, artists are well if somebody's head is fucking ripped
off at so Yeah, So let's jump into the BTS
shit so produced and acquired by Roger Corman, the King
of b We've talked about Roger Corman many, many times
on this show. We just recently talked about him on
our HB love Craft Summer of Lovecraft month. We talked
about him on our Munchie show. We talked about him
on a bunch of other things. He's crossed over him,
Charles Band always coming up.
Speaker 1: I've talked about him recently. Oh yeah, we did what
is the worst Fantastic Four so far? We walked, Yeah,
we talked about the Corman one and still one of
the best ones, Argue and the documentary about the Corma.
I think you guys did too.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen the documentary, but we did. We covered
the ninety three Corman or ninety four Corman's Fantastic Four
with the David Dfour.
Speaker 3: We've talked enough about Fantastic Four recently, so I'll keep
this brief. But right around when the new one came out,
I rewatched the original, Like I mentioned a couple episodes back.
Speaker 1: Fucking Somebody with Marvel.
Speaker 3: I guess was going after YouTube because like there was
like thirty copies of this movie on YouTube.
Speaker 1: There's like none. You had a hunt, like yeah archive
to find it now.
Speaker 2: Because I feel like, because Disney has the rights and
that's it, and you can't.
Speaker 1: Watch that ship for free.
Speaker 3: We got a couple of the actors in a scene
where you really have to actually be like eagle eye
viewers even find them, so now they're like aware of it.
Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of a shame because that movie
is great.
Speaker 2: So I thought, just real quick, Fantastic Side Tanger, real quick,
I started it.
Speaker 1: I thought, by way, that movie ties in the Carnatore.
We'll get to it later on.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, I brought it up. I thought
we were gonna have like the Fantastic Four alternate universe
versions of Roger Corman in the movie, but it was
just like the actors from the movie, like as just.
Speaker 3: Like pedestrics, which honestly is the better way to do it.
Speaker 2: I was like, holy shit, they're gonna be like He's like,
he's gonna be like bug from fucking Uncle Buff. It's
gonna be the hume of George.
Speaker 3: If you were to go by the internet speculation, we
were gonna have counsel or Reads and the Council. That's
pretty cool idea, but let's wait on that seems like
a lot for this movie.
Speaker 1: But the spoilers but didn't get that. I hope that
doesn't br anybody's day.
Speaker 2: So yes, While Roger Corman acquires this title to put
it out and funds the first iteration of Carnoisaur, there
is a novel released by Harry Adam Knight and whose
real name is John Bronsnan, like Brosenan, like Pierce brosene
It's a book called Cornoisaur.
Speaker 1: I have it here there it is right. This is
one of the re release. Speaking of expensive things, I
got this in twenty eighteen for like sixty bucks, and
then that's pretty expensive. I don't know what happened after
twenty eighteen, but then they went hard up in price,
hundreds of dollars.
Speaker 2: That chrisp Mine's upstairs. Chris Barr bought me that copy
for Christmas, one year in like twenty eleven, and I'm
sure he didn't spend sixty dollars on them.
Speaker 1: No, dude, I don't know what happened afterwards, because I
looked it up again through the freaking roof.
Speaker 2: Try and finding the original version. Man, that's the reprint
after the movie came.
Speaker 1: However, it's since been reprinted again, so I think you
can get an affordable copy. Yeah, maybe went out of print,
I guess is where I was going to go in
the startling tradition of Jurassic Park. I can't stress it up.
They were not shying away that Jurassic Park. What is
the year of that book? Well, you know it.
Speaker 2: Is before Jurassic Park, Grassic Parks ninety and that's what
I wanted to say.
Speaker 1: Park's late eighties.
Speaker 3: I think now the book is ninety. Book is ninety
A double check?
Speaker 1: Is it really?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, That's what I wanted to stress about this novel
is that harrietam Knight or John Brosen had already did
a almost verbatim idea that Michael Crichton happened to use
for Jurassic Park before Michael Crichton did so.
Speaker 3: November twentieth nineteen ninety right, the ass in there.
Speaker 1: So when I looked up, I went on like a
deep dive on him and whatnot a few years back
for reasons to probably talk about it. Yeah, but yeah,
so I think he got wind that Hollywood might be
going all in on dinosaur movies. Yeah, so he pumped
out this book and then Hollywood didn't go all in
on dinosaur movies for a long time. Yeah, and then
I think Roger Corman wanted to kid again on drafs Bar.
So he's like, what what do we have? What can
we buy? That's before So if anyone called it out,
He's like, well, our book was written first. I've read
the book.
Speaker 2: The movie is made first too. I'm pretty sure wasn't
it Wade what carnishour was like conceived first?
Speaker 1: The book? The books first? No, no, no.
Speaker 2: I know the book existed first, but I'm saying Roger
Corman had gotten the rights and did it before Draft
Park had come out.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, you read the movie time, but I
think Jurassic Park was taking longer to make.
Speaker 2: I think two years and hit he took like two months.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right, But no, the
book is written ahead of time, and there are some similarities, like, uh,
what's the author did see Jurassic Park and he's He's
quoted saying like I enjoyed that it ended, like you know,
the visitor center. It kind of minds of his part
of the book where there is like a dinosaur chase
through a museum, which then happened in a later Jurassic
Park movie that little home museum. Oh yeah, way, But yeah,
I don't know how much you want to talk about
the book.
Speaker 2: I don't want to talk too much about it because
I want to save that for c b.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got got to get the real nitty gritty
info from him.
Speaker 1: I did read the book. So if you have any question,
I can tell you what is it this movie from
the book. I'll tell a few things.
Speaker 3: Like Salem's a lot, except it won't be me getting
yelled at for spoiling the book.
Speaker 1: Well you just kept saying it. It was so much better.
We no, this this movie is a carnosaur name only.
There is a few kernels they take from the book.
No characters, location different, which is of events different, which is.
Speaker 2: Really strange because John Brosman wrote the fucking treatment for
the movie. So it's like, well, why did you change
so much of your own material? You know, I feel
like we budget.
Speaker 1: As someone who read that book, I'm like, yeah, it'd
be kind of hard to do on a Corman budget.
Speaker 2: Well right, but I feel like you can narrow down
the main idea, which I guess is what they did essentially.
Speaker 3: My head canon is also they had somebody on the
lot at Universal, like on set somewhere or in the
editing room, taking notes. They didn't write that exactly what
was in Park, but there's a I mean, maybe there's
a parallel thinking dinosaurs going through windshields. I guess two
people could have had that thought. I mean, a jeep
is very specific.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was in the book. That was in the books.
Speaker 3: Was it in Harry's book first or John's That's a
good question. That was it was in Michael Crichton's book.
That's kind of where I'm going with. Oh, yeah, right,
they lifted that's literally that's one of the things that
made it from the book to the famous movie.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of Jurassic Park the book, not in
the movie. That's that's a major scene. I love it.
Speaker 2: It's great. Cormanck was a fucking genius.
Speaker 1: He was.
Speaker 2: He was, and he was so happy in the static
about thee Like we were talking about that in little
interview things.
Speaker 1: I love that promo, they that news report. They're like,
everyone knows Jurassic Park is coming out. There's a whole
there was like a whole exhibit, which actually reminded me.
I went to Universal for the thirtieth Diniversity and they
had a thing. Even though they have a whole Jurassic
Park land, they built an exhibit in the regular park
with even more Drastic Parks stuff, Like why you just
put this in the Jurassic anyway.
Speaker 3: Because they can't do a whole park, I guess.
Speaker 1: So they had everything over there, but it looked like
this news video he saw in the news video of
drastic Parks exhibit all the stuff, and somewhere over here
Roger Korbit is working on his own dinosour movie.
Speaker 2: I love it so much because Corman is just like,
why don't you go?
Speaker 1: She too movies?
Speaker 2: Go she both buy movies.
Speaker 1: But that thing they keep showing off, that t Rex suit,
other than the t Rex feet, that suit's not in
the movie. It's just the puppet and the full size thing.
The man of the suit is not in the movie
other than in the promo.
Speaker 2: I don't think there is a man in a suit
if you watch if you watch the stuff, John Beekler
did the effects for this, so let's get that out
of way. One of our favorites. We talk about him
all the time, huge part of Empire Pictures and all
that great stuff, made some of our favorite monsters, Gulies
and troll and all that kind of skoo of stuff.
So he does the dinosaurs for this, And in that
promo you're talking about, he's got like a slave device
that's like working the arms and ship for the big animatron.
The hands and shit.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure well that video I sent you, they
kept chopping up and moving things around. Oh the full
news report, Like, if you watch the full thing, there
is a guy in a t Rex suit and they
don't use it for I think the only shots you
see are when the t Rex's feet are walking. That's
the only shot of the suit. The full suit must
have looked so bad they went, no, no, we're not
using that.
Speaker 2: But the animatronic was cool, and it was pretty fucking big.
It wasn't big as Mama t Rex in but it
was pretty big.
Speaker 3: But again, like we didn't say it yet, but also
like Jassic Park, how much of a fuck this is
one and fifty grand soup to nuts?
Speaker 1: I mean, so you got to keep that in the
back of your head. But being thrifty, you know, they
had to rebuild those t Rex puppets for every movie.
The Corman t Rex shows up in like ten other
bott logic.
Speaker 2: You're talking about another movie where ILM had made like
some pioneering moves h for Jurassic Park. That's still fucking
hold up, gang Bosters with listen, you know what I mean? Yeah,
before I move on from John Brazen as well, he
wrote he also wrote Slimer, which was was adapted into
one of my favorites and one of our favorites of
the VHS era, and that was Proteus, which is right here.
We've been talking about doing that one for a while,
which we'll get to. So now there's a tangential connection
I can also. Yeah, also, it's a book called It's
called Slimer.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, that's what you're just saying.
Speaker 3: Sorry, he's a slimeris into the ghost spots.
Speaker 2: Well, clearly that's why they changed it. Because they if
they put out a slimmer movie, all the kids would
be trying to rent it.
Speaker 1: Where's Peter?
Speaker 2: One more thing I wanted to bring up about Cornistow too,
because I want to talk briefly about the sequels to this.
So Carnostar two, like you said before, it's basically Aliens,
but it's.
Speaker 1: Such a good movie.
Speaker 2: It's such a different movie than this, and I appreciate
it for that even though it's just Aliens.
Speaker 1: It's not a very good sequel considering the ending of
this movie.
Speaker 2: But no, but it's totally it's totally fun and fun.
As some people would like to say that are sitting
next to me. Before I forget, I wanted to mention
that not only is Miguel Nunya's junior in this movie,
but Rodmin Flander is also in this movie. Who you
did an interview with?
Speaker 1: Yes, I interviewed Robin Flander and he mentioned both characters
he played in Carnosaur two and and how he didn't
want to cut his hair so they wrote it into
the plot to make fun of his hair because he
didn't want to cut his hair in real life. Oh
my god.
Speaker 2: Rob and Flander, of course, is the director of Leprechaun
two and what else did he do? The Unborn, which
I really love, and of course Idle Hand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, I don't care for that movie. Oh,
I like, really, I don't care for it.
Speaker 2: I need to watch it again.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah, watch it again. I feel like
that'd be right up your album. I mean, I'm not
gonna be hurt if you don't like. No, I just
feel shocked that you.
Speaker 2: Don't like anybody watching or listening. Do me a favor,
do not go back and listen to our Idle Hands episode,
because I feel like I might have been unjust to
that movie.
Speaker 3: While I was just say, don't really listen to it
because my audio is fucked in that episode.
Speaker 2: That's good enough.
Speaker 1: I like it, But I mean there's some good jokes
of that episode. Don't get me wrong. I'm not gonna
say don't. Don't, definitely don't. But were you gonna move
when you watch the movie?
Speaker 2: I might have been in a mood.
Speaker 1: That happens to me sometimes I rewatch a movie, I'm like,
I like this, it's been in the moon.
Speaker 3: Also, are probably remembering that the ending is fucked and
they had a way better original ending than they didn't use.
Speaker 1: I'm about to fight you. I like the theatrical.
Speaker 3: Well funnier is debatable, but the original ending was more
in line.
Speaker 1: With the story being told. I don't know what it was.
Speaker 2: Maybe it was the fact that I recorded it in
a hotel room on the floor covered in pillows. That
could have been the thing.
Speaker 1: The problem, My problem was that's the part.
Speaker 2: Was grumpy about it. Yeah, yeah, little It might have
been a little too harsh and I got to revisit
that ship for sure, but also directed that.
Speaker 1: Is that what you were saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Robin
he did a lot of work recording.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a bunch of He's another one who got his
start too, just like so many other great guys like
James Cameron and uh oh my fucking god, Joe Dante,
Joe Dante, excuse.
Speaker 1: Me, and actings got Nicholson Yeah.
Speaker 2: Little horrors, I mean, so many fucking people.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Dick Miller, yeah yeah. We talked about that on the
HP love Craft Oh yeah, on the the Dunwich R.
I talked about the promo stuff that I wanted to
about Cornisfur three. But fucking Scott Valentine, uh is the
main character in that from classics such as My Demon Love.
Speaker 3: I was convinced for a while while watching Carnosaur that
the main character Doc was fucking Scott Valentine.
Speaker 1: How he looks like I'm a little bit in the
dark lighting. A lot of this movie has.
Speaker 2: It's not We got to revisit Scott Scott Valentine's Day
next to We also did.
Speaker 3: That Patreon episode, the Mini Scott Vampire. Yeah, yeah, that's
and Charlie Spradling, that boro Line sex movie. That's a
soft core movie by surprise Guard.
Speaker 2: Well you see Charlie Spratling's tits like two seconds. That's
what was That's the benefit of having it on Vimeo
because we can give you guys that on Patreon.
Speaker 1: It's a Patriot exclusive.
Speaker 2: So this is where we're getting into the fucking weeds
because you only see three movies in this Carnoisaur movie set.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but don't worry, you get plenty more Dinasaur.
You want to see these dive Saurs and other movies.
They're out there.
Speaker 2: So technically Raptor, which is directed by Jim Minorsky, who
was a big Corman guy, especially for New Concord directed
He directed Munch he sure did, starring Eric Roberts. Okay,
the Hulk, what Nor Roberts, Julian.
Speaker 1: Eric Roberts, who Eric Roberts, who will be in a
the biggest movie of two thousand and eight, and also
Shark to Puss that one also just running those Corman movies.
Speaker 2: That movie is almost entirely comprised of footage from the
previous three card Store movies.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like Combine Raptor, they just keep using, just inserting
Eric Roberts occasionally.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well they're in it. It's essentially the the It's
like Raymond Burr's shots of Godzilla put in.
Speaker 1: Which I've experienced something similar. We and Lena did all
the Subspecies movies, and we included the vampire journals. Oh yeah,
but then we learn that there was something else called
malevolent What was it? A Decade in Evil one and two. Oh,
I don't really don't know that, Like why are these connected?
And what Charles band directs them? And like why are
people saying this is connected to subspecies? Is not included
Charlie directed them? Yeah, I know. I'm just shocked the
beginning of Decade and Evil is just like fifteen minutes
summarizing what happened to Vampire Journals, but changing the name
of the characters and ignoring the end. So most Yeah,
it's just a record. They just used, recycled the footage
and started their own new story. But so much of
it is just recap from Vampire Journal. God of course
of that one of all of them. Yeah, I'm curious.
Speaker 2: I can't seem to remember decad and Evil. I gotta
go look at those and check it out. Now, you don't,
I need to know my own more pecuriosity.
Speaker 1: Don't watch. That's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna really help.
I know you like little puppets and everything. I'm gonna
let you off on a thing.
Speaker 3: Oh, you're getting more more recentable watch.
Speaker 1: And the little guy from Troll one is in it
in the they recast them in the second one. I'm
gonna just save you, like four hours, don't just skip it,
just skip it, Joe, you don't have to watch everything.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's my duty to watch Charles Band
Full Moon.
Speaker 1: You know you mentioned Phil fond of Carrol again, Joe. Joe,
me and Lena talked about we have to watch Subspecies
five and then talk about Subspecies for two hours. And
then we're like, you know what, we're in it to
win it. Let's watch both of these. We both regret it,
Like I think midway through one we were like, shouldn't
have done this, But now we're right, we have to
finish it committed.
Speaker 2: But I can see being wrung out by the fifth
Subspecies movie, just like you know what, fuck you, I
can't take that.
Speaker 3: Let's watch watch all thirteen pup up masters. Let me
know how you feel by the end of it.
Speaker 2: As far as I'm concerned that move those movie stopped.
Speaker 1: We're talking about recycling footage. Yeah, so uh.
Speaker 2: There is also a technically a Carnosaur five, which is
called the Eden Formula, directed by John Carl Beekler. He
does the effects for it. It's got fucking Tony Todd, it's
got Jeff Fahy, and it's got d Wallace in it.
Speaker 1: Yes. Is it good? No?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: If I remember right, they use like speakers, they have
like a bunch of radios. It's confused. Is that that's
one of the Cgi Corman t rex?
Speaker 2: Like that's what I thought, Yeah, but I don't know
if it is because Beico did effects for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, keep in mind when I say there's CGI, like
it's so they make are it's either this movie or
another one. They make a digital version of the Corman
t Rex, which is not the one that's on the poster.
That's like a different t'ffer. Yeah. So there's a digital
version of the Corbin t Rex, which is pretty funny
to see. I think it's eating formula, but I could
be wrong there.
Speaker 2: I know what you're talking about, because I was like, what,
there's another Cornoisaur movie or adjacent movie. It technically it's not.
I mean it is Carnistre five, but it's not. I
feel like there was another one with CGI specifically, and
I remember it being really really awful, whether like in
a museum, like doing a presentation and there's like dinosaurs
in the in the museum.
Speaker 1: That one. I haven't seen it.
Speaker 2: It exists, and I'm forgetting the name of it, and
if I can remember it will pop it in. So
but the fucking weirdest thing about the Carnoisaur series is
the Carnoisaur three remake called Scorpius Gigantis, like Scorpius from Farescape.
It's it's free on YouTube if you want to watch.
Speaker 1: It, or two be Carnisaur three remake.
Speaker 2: It's a remake of Carnoisaur three called Scorpius Gigantis.
Speaker 1: Why did they remake I don't fucking know. It's already stunned.
Speaker 2: It's like the same exact plot as Carnisaur three, but
it's a different month and everything I was scrubbing through it.
I'm not entirely sure, but like it's it looks from
what I saw. I didn't watch it. I didn't have
time to sit down and watch it, but like that
is something that I need to go do a deep
dive into.
Speaker 1: I want to too, but now after taking it evil,
I don't know if I wonder these things I've never
seen before, Like Cornosaur six, you opened the box, Tony,
you summon them. I was saying, like, is Joe confused
because they the other? So Carnosur three is also called
uh primal primal species. Primal species, that's the subtitle, but
the foreign release because I have I should have brought it.
I have a physical release of Carnosurar three. That's just
primal species. Dude.
Speaker 2: I was this fucking close to buying a print of
primal species, thirty millimeter print, but it was Russian language
version only, so I was like, motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So for a minute, I'm like, oh, is he
talking about that? But a rebig I've never heard of this.
I I'm scared, but I'll check it out.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's really fucking bad. Like it's I was
scrubbing through it. It's like shot on video. You know
how we were doing that the low budget shit in
the two thousands. They were like, well, shit, we don't
have to shoot on film, let's save some money. We'll
shoot on fucking mini DV tape. We talked about that
in our rag Doll episode and that was one of
the first movies that came out from Full Moon that
was shot on video.
Speaker 1: Rag Doll does a great job with that.
Speaker 2: Rag Doll pulls it off, especially with the lighting and everything.
Speaker 1: This one not so much. I wonder why.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's like something that I might want to
go explore or maybe we'll come back to it a
later date, because it's just so fucking bizarre to me.
Speaker 1: Of all the fucking things.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So with that being said, I want to I
want to tackle one thing real quick. I've known Tony
for a long time. I think we've known each other
for since like twenty ten ish.
Speaker 1: I want to say, like when out House came out,
I think twenty eleven. Yeah, somewhere there was a monster
I could I could, I could go on Facebook or
find the picture I took at that Monster Mania, and
I know that's when I met you.
Speaker 2: That was when I yeah, that was when I promised
you Timmy in the t Rex, That's where that story
delivered it like fifteen years. I came through on my
promise with the Gore cut in four K.
Speaker 1: You were waiting for that specifically, like I know, one
day this will happen.
Speaker 2: I willed it into existence this show.
Speaker 3: We talked about it so much it happened.
Speaker 1: I was like, I want to review that on my
very famous show Hack the Movies ten year twelve, people
watch it.
Speaker 2: It's so Tony was trying to acquire the carn the
rights to Carnisour because he wanted to do a proper carn.
Speaker 1: Of four yes, a Carnifore or at least like eight
like I had. At that point. I had read the
book and I'm like, actually, the book could make a
really cool movie or series.
Speaker 2: And the idea was cool, and like I was going
to do the effects for it at that point.
Speaker 1: Yes, but we had to figure out licensing foremost, and
that was a journey. So at first I thought it
was screened because at that point Corman had sold so yeah,
Corman was like selling off a lot of us. Yeah,
so he had sold a bunch of his films to
screen Factory and show Factory. So I had to like
get in contact with like their socials and stuff try
to find everything. I'm like, hey, is this there? Do
you guys own this? Where is this? And They're like,
we don't own it? And I'm like okay, I'm like, well,
let me call Henry Adam Knight or whatever his real
name is, John John Brosden. Let me call his estate
because he's since died. Yeah, So that I call his
estate and they're like, uh no, we don't have that.
Uh they were sold to Corman. And I was just
like cool, Hey, Corman wasn't stupid. So I eventually it
was just like okay, New Horizons. I'm like what, I'm like, Okay, Corman.
So I got like whatever Corman's business was, I got
the number and I talked to a nice lady on
the phone and I went, Hi, who owns Cardosour By
the way, I was expecting, like not his assistant. I mean,
I thought Roger Corman is gonna be go the phones.
I didn't think it was like a legit like that
close to it.
Speaker 2: He's in the other room. Holme One was like, yeah, hey,
Roger the famous Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I so I knew there was something because I
think I was telling you if I remember right, fact
check all of this. By the way, he was back
in twenty eighteen when I was doing this. Yes, I
think his sons were annoyed that he gave everything to
a bunch of stuff to screen factory, and they tried
to do some legal thing. So what I learned is
that his daughter one of his daughter. I don't know
how many daughters he has a daughter of his at
least around twenty eighteen. Don't know what's changed since then.
I can be a daughter anymore. That's a good point. Yeah,
it could be that too. I think she's some kind
of artist.
Speaker 2: I know you're a single guy, so I already got
a plan around this when you're finished.
Speaker 1: So basically, she owns the Carnosaur films along with a
bunch of other films. It's some kind of trust thing.
I forget the specifics of it. So I was able
to get her email, and I was able to email
her like, hey, I have this idea, we want to
do this. We were wondering what the licensing was for it,
and if I remember right, it was fifty thousand a
year to license the carnosaur property.
Speaker 2: Okay, and then actually not that much.
Speaker 1: And then a person who will not be named, who
has money, who was interested. I was like, this is
how much? And they went now, and that was the
end of my journey. I still have her email, so
maybe one day I'll circle back.
Speaker 2: You got to keep having babe. Well, that guy was saying,
you're seeing your single gentlemen. You go, you try to
you try to hook up with Corman's daughter, and then
you're we're fucking in Like sin dude.
Speaker 1: You steal the paperwork of her desk.
Speaker 2: However, it all goes to me.
Speaker 1: But like I was saying, so when I would look
her up, she is like an artist up. But I
don't think she does many movie things. And we were
talking like, why are there no releases? I think maybe
she has to approve it and no one's gone to
her or because these movies are all on YouTube. No
one ever takes them down. She could, but she does.
Except for the Fantastic Four. They took all those. Yeah, yeah,
they took those.
Speaker 2: Well, we were talking about this before we got on
and we're like, you know this, these movies, even the
third one, really deserves a Blu ray set. Get something good.
And it's a shame that Beakler's gone. Now, Diane Ladd's gone.
You know, all these people are, not all of them,
a lot of them for the for the first movie,
so it's like great, but I would still love to
see a proper blu ray set. I would love to
see these fucking movies like in proper like widescreen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, everything's look, look, no one's no one's gonna buy
carnosour three blu ray on its own. If you get
a three pack, A.
Speaker 3: Lot of people, well they used to do it, like
Nine of the Demons. You put the four k of
each one. It's like the third one, most people are
gonna buy it. But yeah, the after so the collectors
are like, fuck it, drop the extra money.
Speaker 2: I would love to see all the fucking corner store
movies we just mentioned, including Gigantis Scorpius in one big
box set that would be throll on by the same
you know, it's all part of the same ship. Unless
one of the Sun's owns that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't know. Yeah, so hopefully something happens with
one day at least as I might be misremembering some
of this stuff, but as far as twenty eighteen, I
think she owned it and that was it. So if
you want a license car, yeah, or I don't know
if the number has gone up or down since, then.
Speaker 2: We should try. We should try. We'll pull money at
some point when we're when we're rich, let and we'll
and we'll be like.
Speaker 1: Hey, let's just crawfu ugo, go dot com slash buy Carnoisaur.
Speaker 2: We want Carnasaur.
Speaker 1: We promise we'll make it. Oh, I will.
Speaker 2: I will literally interview everybody that's alive that can say
something about cars completing the fifth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, part of our scam, I mean school.
Speaker 2: I would never you might, I would not. But yeah,
with that being said, uh, you want to plot crunches
for us real quick? Just the first one?
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, that's what we're talking about today.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you start going on these other ones, I'll
be totally fucking I did want to do a joke,
and you told me about I was gonna be like, well,
you can tell you about the plot's not and I
was gonna read the book summary.
Speaker 1: He can do the same thing for Jurassic Park.
Speaker 3: The book back and you're talking about the movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, uh carnoisaur.
Speaker 2: Uh this is a tough one.
Speaker 1: What do you mean, it's real easy. It's about a
scientist who uh plays around with genetic engineering and recreates
prehistoric monsters that get loose and kill a bunch of people.
Speaker 2: Spared no expense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, stop me if you heard that one before, Guys,
I never heard that one before. Yes, No, this one's
a little bit moreous malicious. The lady is insane. She's
an evil scientists.
Speaker 3: Like the Jurassic Park book kind of sort of, they
were more money hungry.
Speaker 1: This lady is out to destroy the world.
Speaker 2: She's trying to do a genocide of the human race
via dinosaurs.
Speaker 1: Yes, because she feels bad or something real quick plan
is flawed. We get into that later when she's doing
her bad eye story. Yeah. Yeah, so they she tries
to take over the world with dinosaurs by spreading a
virus that makes men sick and get knocks women up
with dinosaur pabies. Pretty great.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, her plans start a little prematurely. A dinosaur breaks
out earlier than it should have, yeah, and starts causing chaos.
And then an environmentalist and a guy whose security for
a construction site had to set aside their differences to
stop these monsters. And also Clint Howard's there, sure, and
the guy from the Fatigues episode of Seinfeld. Oh yeah,
fallon right, Yeah, very very good.
Speaker 2: Tone. That was great. That was good. I'm so proud
of you. Didn't have to read the box.
Speaker 1: I could have picked up. Well, there's a little synopsis
on the back ship that's white on bright greens.
Speaker 3: Maybe I should start reading the box. Gonna make my
block crunch shorter.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we open up in a chicken factory mm hm.
Speaker 2: And this is the whole title sequence, and it's all
stock footage of real chicken slaughter just like Slaughterhouse if
you ever saw that movie with the pigs. So it's
kind of like that. But then but then it stops
and it'll punch in like a like a fucking terminator,
and it'll be like species vulture. Also crossbread with other
species t rex or some ship like that I wrote up.
Speaker 3: But yeah, what it says like sample species iguana, target
species chicken, Like what the fuck me?
Speaker 1: And uh, here is I said, I'm gonna do this
a couple of times. Here is like one weird kernel
left over from the book. Okay, the book actually is
kind of like what they were attempting to do in
real life, manipulating pre existing bird embryos, manipulating the DNA.
So recently we've gotten a chicken embryo that had like teeth,
they ended up not birthing it for ethics or whatever,
like that seems cool as hell, let's do it. But again,
remember jenegan engineering like the eighties, like seventies, eighties and nineties,
that was like a new thing, thinking machine, supercomputer. Yeah,
people were really like writing stuff about this. That's where
drastic Park comes from in this In the book, he
is able to make dinosaurs by manipulating chicken DNA and
restructuring it to be more like a dinosaur.
Speaker 2: Ancestors fucking toads in Jurassic Park. Like, hello, so they
gotta fillm the gene sequencing caps.
Speaker 1: So apparently I guess this maybe is how she brought
back the dinosaurs, but the whole chicken thing is part
of like the dinosaur district. They changed it into dinosaur
distribution and kind of glo us over the fact that
maybe the dinosaurs have manipulated. It's just weird how that
one thing spread out into this whole other thing. In
the script, it's this crazy nefarious plan.
Speaker 3: I just think it's funny that it's like, yeah, I
guess it's genetics. How else do you bring dinosaurs back
besides like a really weird time machine or something. But
it's like, yeah, literally exactly the same as Jurassic Park,
just change the Actually I mentioned iguana's, crocodiles, reptiles are mentioned,
but yeah, chickens.
Speaker 1: They had some actual dinosaur DNA, which doesn't exist in
real life. This one is like one hundred percent. They're
supposed to be mutated, like pre exists the game.
Speaker 3: Later they're like in a month later seem they're like, yeah,
the cows, you had some turnip DNA and oh.
Speaker 1: I why genetic stuff? Yeah, which was our boys in DC.
I don't know how the fun I'm not saying this
movie did it well or smart labor.
Speaker 2: No, but I like the idea of because they do
explore that andsic park where they're like, well, these aren't
really dinosaurs, they're just mutated dinosaur things, and this goes
full bor on that when it's like she's like, yeah,
I made it Dinah by splicing all these animals together,
and then I put them in a human and a
chicken or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Then I then I turned it into a virus
and chickens that I didn't test it well enough, and
now it's kind of gotten out of control.
Speaker 2: This movie used to freak me out as a kid
because of the virus element. It feels very like gross
in a lot of parts, and we'll get to it.
Speaker 1: But by the virus thing totally ignored to the next.
Two starts with two and then goes to one, and
you're like, I didn't know about this too.
Speaker 3: Should have started with like the Apocalypse, like a Resident
Evil movie where it's like the world is dead and
the chicken zombies have taken over.
Speaker 2: To two is very much like we made dinosaurs and
now we're using them for weapons.
Speaker 1: And then like the not even sorry sorry too, they're like, yeah,
so something happened. We took care of it. We left
the eggs here at a nuclear reactor in the desert, like,
break the eggs, what are you doing? And it turns
out the nuclear reactor hatch the eggs. Like who's playing
was this?
Speaker 2: What do you mean? Like gudz alocides.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Anyway, they need.
Speaker 1: To doc there.
Speaker 2: He was all willing to shoot the eggs. Nobody else
was willing to. So we bounce around a lot in
this movie. So I kind of want to if things
are going to be covered a little quickly. Yeah, we're
at a board meeting in DC, and it's about the
different advanced research projects that are going on across the world,
and there's different bio labs that are doing different things. Specifically,
Unice is the one doing food research there, and that
kind of ties into the chicken shit. No pun attended.
Speaker 3: Also, Corn got his Coca Cola money in this movie.
They're all drink coke, diet cokes, regular code.
Speaker 2: And product placement. That's how you do that show. So
each time a new scene comes up, you're introduced to
like maybe a character or like where they are, and
then on the bottom of the screen there is an
infection rate. Yes, right, and it said it's infected by
per million and right now. It's at zero percent when
we're having this conversation, and it quickly jumps just by
a couple hours, by quite a bit.
Speaker 1: It's like up to seventy one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, by the end of the By the end of
the movie, it's like, what the fuck? But we get
some lord dropped here about a scientist that's at the
UNICE laboratory that's doing experiments that they don't know anything
about because because there is like an NDA in place
where they're like, oh, I don't know. We just gave
her this stuff and we're not allowed to talk about
it or else we lose the patents. And that was
kind of the deal. We just she just asked us
to be quiet about it so we don't look at it.
Speaker 1: That doesn't seem like a good idea at all in
a bio research lab.
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: She They mentioned later on that she is like a
huge genetic research person, like she could probably get away
with it. But that was a Jane tip Tree, right.
Speaker 2: Jane tip Tree played by Diane Ladd, which is of
course the mother of Laura Dern, who is in the
More the Larger movie That Comes Home.
Speaker 1: God, I did it.
Speaker 3: That was not obvious because this is the first time
I've ever heard that trivia.
Speaker 2: That was a big talking point when they were talking
about these films on the news.
Speaker 1: She was Clark Riswold's mother, and.
Speaker 3: I missed the major fucking Laura Dern Laura.
Speaker 1: Durd's mother, and I think blue Velvet and wild.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: But now I'm upset that David Lynch never made a
dinosaur movie with both of them. Imagine that's what it was, Diane,
baby dinosaur. Everybody's like, what is that thing made out of.
Speaker 3: Carnoisour Okay, I'm picturing it now, everything in heaven, everything is.
Speaker 1: It's funny because our our friend Clayton Theed who you
guys did Theodore Rex?
Speaker 2: We did?
Speaker 1: He?
Speaker 2: I mean Theodore Rex is coming up later, baby, don't worry.
Speaker 1: He on his channel, he did a thing called like
Engines List where he would break down each dinosaurs and
it's funny. The first thing I ever did with Clayton
uh for he would do April Fools videos, we did
Tip Tree's List, where it was basically for one day.
His channel was Carnoisaur Theory, and I broke this whole
thing for him, breaking out every dinosaur that was in
the thing and the like to the whole thing. We
rewrote it to where he was just a carnoisaur panel
and this is like the thing and the pants were
like well, and of course goes by the way, this
was a Joe. Oh my god.
Speaker 2: I don't even know if Diane Ladd knows what the
fuck she's making.
Speaker 1: She's like, oh, it attached.
Speaker 3: I don't think she knows what the fuck she's saying.
Speaker 1: Diane, let the gene to tree tip tree. Her problem
is that like, only she knows the plan. She doesn't
have any crazy disciples. She's just kind of giving. It's
like the Manhattan Project. Well, you guys know some stuff,
but only she knows the full plant. So that's kind
of why it gets fucked up, because no one really
knows what they're supposed to be doing or what the
plan is.
Speaker 2: It's kind of genius because she's one of the only
ones that doesn't tell anybody the find Yeah, but her
plan is very complicated.
Speaker 1: You need some radicalized disciples to pull this off, and
she does not have.
Speaker 2: Her brain is radically deteriorating.
Speaker 3: I do like this like classic sci fi framing that
they give her where she's just like this overlord talking
into a computer monitor for most of the movie.
Speaker 2: It's cool.
Speaker 1: That's how that's how you film her uh scenes on
three days.
Speaker 2: And we're done, and they're all in this fucking room
and then we want you to lay down and burthen
we'll talk about. So she's experimenting on chicken specifically, like
we talked about, and she didn't expect this chicken to
pop off so early. And this chicken, its whole ass
explodes from this egg that comes out of there's three situation. Yeah, yeah,
And these two guys are dispatched to like clean it up, right.
They're like, she's like destroy, you know, bring me the
egg or whatever is there, and you know, I need
all the samples and stuff. So they go, Okay, they
get there and the fucking thing had the carnisour TM
hatches out of the egg and scratches his dude's face
and runs off.
Speaker 1: Also, it's this big ass fucking egg.
Speaker 3: There's like chicken guts and feathers everywhere.
Speaker 2: This poor chicken, this poor chicken's ass exploded. This fucking eggs.
Speaker 1: The chicken couldn't lay the egg. Now I had to
explode out of the chicken. Yeah, I swear the guy.
Speaker 3: I thought this one guy was Leader from Incredible Hulk,
but total name.
Speaker 2: I thought he was the guy from Jingle All the
guy who's sick driving the truck. I thought that was
the guy from Jingle All the Way that laughs at Arnold.
Speaker 1: But it's not. I don't know if it's okay, one
of the guys. I don't know if there was this
truck or another truck. There's a lot of truck drivers
and stuff of this. A lot of the minor characters
I tend to like forget or mix up. One of
them I think is like the weird Bug, one of
the weird bug scientists from Silence of the Lambs, one
with the wonky eye, I think is in this at
some point. I don't know if he's one of the
guys drives the truck.
Speaker 2: I can't remember.
Speaker 1: He's like a military dude. He's in this.
Speaker 3: He's in this is the point. There's a lot of
that guys in this.
Speaker 2: Yes, So now we're at the poultry plant and infected
cells have none now gone up to fifteen percent a million.
Speaker 1: And they say no one in or out. Yeah, don't
let even do the gate. Goddamnit. No one in or out.
Speaker 2: Well, Clint Howard is packing up the chickens. He's like, man,
never saw so many scared chicken before. I guess the
skytish falling or something like welcome back.
Speaker 3: Clintuh for like the third or fourth, fifth, sixth time.
Speaker 2: This is before he starts the weed farming gets killed
by ticks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he doesn't get infested in this movie.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, would expect this would be the movie he would
get infested. But I love how they're like, yeah, you're
gonna help it. I was like, I drive the trucks.
Speaker 1: I don't load him.
Speaker 2: The fucking the other scientist guy that's helping Diane Ladd
is just like he's all.
Speaker 1: Sick and shit.
Speaker 2: He's like, don't don't let anybody out, don't let nobody goes.
Speaker 1: In or out.
Speaker 2: We gotta contain this guys in the guard of the
Friend's like, okay, whatever.
Speaker 1: You say, second later, I'm gonna be late. Okay.
Speaker 2: He like, man, people coughing on shit in this movie.
He like coughs into his hand. He's like he's like, oh,
he's just going John or whatever. He's like, come on, man,
I gotta get these cluckers back to fucking I don't
know where before dark for three hour drive and he's like,
all right, sure, go ahead, we'll say you left early.
Speaker 1: It's like, what are you doing? The guy just holding
up fucking let anybody out than one job.
Speaker 3: Not to mention those guys with Clint Howard. So again
we just talked about it. They saw this destroyed chicken,
his exploded chicken with this this thing maybe moving around.
They don't see it, but they know something weird loaded
on the fucking.
Speaker 2: Whatever this bloody pen don't be eating any eggs from
the fucking pure x chicken.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I love how this guy's driving down the road and
now with it. Like a minute, he's like, huh but
their house growing with these chickens and it broke out,
pulls over.
Speaker 2: The fucking dinosaur eats one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what it is. A monster vision. The Green Vision,
which again the one of the last kernels Oh book
opens with a dinosaur eating chickens and a chicken coop
and for the movie they're like, put the chicken coop
on a on a truck. That's the only change.
Speaker 2: Well, we got me driving home that these things come
from chickens, but they also eat the chickens, and then
people also eat the chickens in the eggs doesn't love chicken.
There must be like fucking five people eating chicken in
this eating chicken, not knowing what's happening, walking around before.
Speaker 1: They get killed.
Speaker 3: A lot of act sat tire, which kind of appreciate
the It is like kind of a dark comedy and
it's kind of hilarious when Clein Howard's walking through the
chicken coop when we get chicken.
Speaker 1: This one is really satirical and funny that you watch too,
and it's like taking itself dead and then three tries
to be funny again, You're like, what a weird tonally different, We're.
Speaker 2: All over the place. But it's so cool because the dino,
like the cornistare team, jumps out of the back of
the chicken coop truck and fucking tears this guy up
and you see him like you see like the dinosaur
eating him first like in the mudflap of like the chrome,
and then you just see this thing fucking eating this
guy's umb against Like all right, now we know exactly
what we're getting in this movie. And that's a big
reason why.
Speaker 1: This is unusus, which is which I remember, right. My
dinosaur knowledge I didn't look it up ahead of time
is kind of like a raptor is kind of raptor,
but it's like the correct size of raptor. It's like
it's sized right. But I think Donicus were actually bigger.
But the Durassa Parker is like, we're doing velociraptors, and
someone said, well they're actually smaller, and they're like, fuck
that guy, We're making ours bigger. But after this they
do raptors going forward.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well itonicus as as seen on the Cornisaur three cover,
because the way.
Speaker 3: This one is presented is almost like just a dinosaur
that's very quickly evolving and getting bigger and bigger because
it's eating so much. Again, kind of playing off the
idea that she didn't think the chicken would hatch this quickly,
this particular one is is moving.
Speaker 1: She says like, uh, this wasn't supposed to happen. This
might be an anomaly. Uh, yeah, there's a reason this
went way too early.
Speaker 2: Not yet, it wasn't supposed to happen yet.
Speaker 3: I think for a movie with very little background, they
give you just enough that you're like, all right, I
buy it's muting fucking chicken that's.
Speaker 1: A mutated dinosaur.
Speaker 2: Also, see we get introduced to uh Doc Smith and
he's a drunk that is basically the night watchman for
the units the Unice Minerals plant. Yeah, because they have
a monopoly on like all kinds of different things.
Speaker 3: So there were those like ringos, sunglasses down like a
bottle of brandy watching brain surgery.
Speaker 1: And he's going, I love this movie.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I was trying to remember what movie this is,
and I it's a real movie. Just watch a brain surgery,
like like stock footage.
Speaker 2: It sticks out in my mind. They have the stash
getting the fucking brain work, and I can't I couldn't
remember what it was, and I didn't find anything about
if anybody had figured out what it was.
Speaker 1: But sure, I just love when he goes outside, he's like,
I'm drunk and I can't shot for shit. He just
anvinced that he sucks, kind of.
Speaker 3: Like Tony was saying in the plot crying shot.
Speaker 1: This guy's like at a trailer.
Speaker 3: And he defends like the excavators and stuff that these
activists because they're trying to destroy.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because they're trying to sabotage the mineral place,
and he's like, you know, I do this just because
I it's a paycheck. You know, I do what I'm told.
And then he catches one of them, right and pulls
the mask off, and who is it, Jennifer Runyon.
Speaker 1: This is I don't know if this is before or
after Ghostbusters.
Speaker 3: Have to Bill Murray hung her high and dry on
that date she turned to an activist.
Speaker 1: Definitely.
Speaker 2: I think it's after Ghostbusters, right, That's what happened.
Speaker 3: She thought she was psychic. She missed that date changed
her whole outlook on life. Well, well he didn't show
up that I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, eight o'clock never happened.
Speaker 2: Yeah, twelve good night. Of course she had. She had
that whole horrible thing happened to her where there was
two killers trying to kill her.
Speaker 1: Again, go back to that episode.
Speaker 3: She's still called the ball and all that ship that
the movie tries to pay her like a victim.
Speaker 2: She was part of the problem. Well, then she moved away,
of course. Then she went to school and then met
Peter Vankman and then it was all downhill from there.
Speaker 1: And yeah, she had to rush.
Speaker 3: Oh my, I used to be called, and now I'm thrush,
you know her her way as a fuck using society.
Speaker 2: So apparently, like Doc Smith knows the sheriff and he
was he's trying to get him to come pick up
Jennifer Runyon because she's one of the protesters. But Sheriff's like, look, man,
I can't. I'm picking up this fucking guy that's in
pieces on the side of the road.
Speaker 1: I love that. He goes, how about you just hold
it there and I'll send a car eventually. I'm like,
what the Eventually, I'm gonna send a car over as
soon as I can, not like, you can hold on
to her. You're good, right, It's whatever, It's not a
big deal.
Speaker 3: And this is where we find out that this town
apparently has a massive bobcat problem.
Speaker 1: Anymore.
Speaker 2: It hasn't been a Bobcat attack. They're like, they're not
in the area anymore.
Speaker 3: That is the only thing they could possibly conceive of
doing the damage to this body. Not a bear, not
an alligator.
Speaker 2: There's no bears or alligators, and give bobcat.
Speaker 1: Fucking bob it's a mountain liner or a Bobcat.
Speaker 3: I guess, I guess my first thought would have been dinosaur,
a resurrected dinosaur.
Speaker 1: Sure, but ah, Bobcat's doing that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's no way it would be any other
large predator. I don't think there's any other large pre.
Speaker 1: Maybe a wolf, I guess. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Utah, well off, I'm just saying shit that would make
more sense than whatever they do.
Speaker 1: Bob, it's gotta be a probably. Maybe it could be
a Mormon. That's probably statistically.
Speaker 2: It was the dog man, is what it was.
Speaker 1: Fucking Sasquatch. He's looking for a Harry in the family.
Speaker 2: He got confused somebody on Skinwalker ranch or something. So
the only level one of the only level headed people
in this movie is doctor Raven because he's like now
he's doing an autopsy on the body and he like
takes a huge chunk because he cannot fucking figure out
what has made these marks and drive him nuts. He's
got like a book out trying to look at the
last rations and other attacks from other animal that it
could have possibly been, even though it doesn't make sense
geographically where they are. So he sends it off to
this company that I guess or the fishing game place
that will like analyze it and ship to tell him.
Speaker 3: What, I imagine you missed that phone call. You just
get the letter in there.
Speaker 1: Like, what the fuck?
Speaker 2: Flush, Hey, happy birthday, I'm sending you some fucking uh
a sample, a bite wound sample.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So he's kind of skeptical of what the fuck's
going on, and he's kind of like a tertiar characters
without the whole thing, This poor fucking guy. Yeah, so
they're still trying to leave. Diane Ladd still sends these
guys out to go look for the Dino.
Speaker 1: Keeps saying, we need to fight it. You need to
fight it. Yeah, what how will you know it? You'll
know when you see it, They say that multimi, you'll
know when you see you.
Speaker 2: Oh, you'll know it when you see it.
Speaker 1: What are we looking for? You'll know?
Speaker 3: I love how they separate Jennifer Runyon from the doc.
It's just like he's supposed to be keeping an eye
on her while the cops send like a car or whatever,
like you were saying, and he just.
Speaker 1: Fucking passes out and he's drunk.
Speaker 2: A shit, he's a drunk.
Speaker 3: He drinks out the whole He's like, oh, you fucking idiot,
just leaves sales.
Speaker 2: So the next day, he's going with a hangover. The
sheriff takes me to the protesters like commune and he's like,
all right, pick him out, which which which one is?
And she's like, gosh, she's not here, even though he
knows exactly it's her. So now he's already starting to
go soft on her. He's got like a thing flour
and that's like something that runs throughout this movie.
Speaker 1: And he did say she was cute and she was
wearing black licrose, so he's into her. Yeah, he's into her.
Speaker 3: He's like, I finally have a shot A can't blow.
Speaker 2: So now the lab guy that was sick earlier, now
he's really fucking sick. Who was Who told that guy?
Not the security guard not to let the fucking trucks out? Uh,
he's on the phone. It's like, oh God, damn it,
we gotta contain this. We still gotta do it. Meanwhile,
his daughter's like sneaking out the back door to go
like on a fucking drunk joy ride with her where
her boyfriend.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're going to hit fucking that little kid in
p head's gonna come out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the spirit of vengeance Carnoisaur because I.
Speaker 3: Don't know what the point of this. This this it's
not even.
Speaker 1: The b plot.
Speaker 3: It's like a deep plot, Like what is the point
of this? They come hi back to it like three times.
Speaker 1: I count my brother, the couple in the cart. I guess.
The only thing I can think of is early in
the book there's a couple making out in the car
and the dinosaur eats the guy and that might just
be a kernel that's left over again, but even then,
it's not similar at all. I mean, it is just
a body.
Speaker 3: It does lead to a great kill scene. I'm not
trying to poop poo it.
Speaker 2: I just was like, all right, I know, I know
a bunch of people have said it before, but like
it's so fucking Jurassic Park, Dennis Niderie and Theaurus.
Speaker 1: It's crazy.
Speaker 3: It felt like time like but we but we see
it all yeah, right, A little like the t Rex
like I kind of I actually mentioned this little earlier,
but like it crashes through the windshield after him, but
maybe getting a little ahead of ourselves because they're drunk
drive and they're spaining, they're fucking going up on the hill.
Speaker 2: It was off the fucking cliff, Like whoa, that was close.
One of the fringets had to take a piss with
the beer, and the fucking dinosaur come up there and
like bites right in the dick.
Speaker 1: The monster. It's so good monster, we mean handpuppet, but
it's great.
Speaker 2: And it like jumps like rips through the jeep and
just starts ripping these two people apart. And it's so
fucking cool.
Speaker 1: It's so tidy. No one can kick this thing, Dude,
I don't know. Minutes all teeth and claws, man, I
guess so, but I feel like I feel like adults
could dog pile it. And I mean it's.
Speaker 2: Kinda hurt Tony. We're talking about razor sharp claws and talons. Yes,
if it's a fucking raptor, I mean a raccoon could
probably do as much damage.
Speaker 1: I don't think so.
Speaker 2: It's fucking head is this big like a shark, but
that could go like right around your face anyway.
Speaker 3: This guy's whole stomach is like spaghetti sauce.
Speaker 2: This thing is just like away.
Speaker 3: I love the way it looks in the lightning, though,
Like it looks pretty good in the daylight, Like they
don't leave it out in the dayly like too long.
But just enough so you're like, all right, yeah, I
buy it.
Speaker 1: It still looks fake, but it looks cool enough.
Speaker 2: And I was saying on the lobby card like I
love that that sunsetting shot where like the roars and
the distance, I love it.
Speaker 3: Oh God, that's like right, they knew that was gonna
be a Jurassic Park. They gotta get this in there.
Speaker 2: So Jennifer Runyan like ends up hooking up with Doc
Smith again and she goes to like see him and
gives them like a friendship not and she's like, look
at this to not and it means peace.
Speaker 1: And it's fresh, like big environmental hippie stuff was in
the late eighties early nineties. It's like in everything. I
just want to mention this scene specifically, because she's.
Speaker 2: Like, you know, she should be Dinosaur Alley and they're
ripping it all up. They're destroying something to make nothing,
and he's like, I don't give a fuck. I just
get paid to.
Speaker 1: Do my job.
Speaker 2: This is like the Dinosaur Alley specifically. I wanted to
mention that, like, okay, like.
Speaker 1: What you should this be a graveyard for the dinosaur.
Speaker 2: Like, I mean, just just where they used to migrate through.
We gotta like keep her preserved for millions of time.
Speaker 3: Also, but again, Tony, you don't know that there's a
line later in the movie that that she's got a
reference back to this.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I agree with her in the fact that this should
be a dig site for fossils and shouldn't just be
plowed over.
Speaker 1: But I don't think she wants anyone doing anything. No, no,
she wants to be a dinosaur graveyard. Like, well, that's
just called the planet that we're.
Speaker 2: All, oh, yeah, my excavation site. So this is really
go back to Washington and the guy Fallon. He's like
the the balden guy who's like the Bellamy. Yeah, he's
like he's like the fucking uh the big wig guy
there who like gets all these people to like make
shit for him, who kept like.
Speaker 1: Popping up in movies I was reviewing last year. I
forget really most of them, but one of them was
He's the chiropractor and ed Wood who were places oh
no shit, yeah for whatever he is. I feel like
there were like two or three movies that guy just
like kept showing. I think he's in Charlie's Angel. Yeah, yeah,
here's the phone call to the FDA. I love this
where he's just like, I don't understand. All right, we
have what was it? A turnip? What's the difference between
a cow a cow with a small So turnips don't
have to be approved by the FDA and our cows don't.
So we put a cow with turnip DNA. Why does
that have to be approved by you? And it's just
like when you made the cow a turna DDA. Why
did you think this was the thing that was gonna happened.
This is gonna happen.
Speaker 2: Why the fuck are you putting turnip?
Speaker 1: Which again was the fear. This is when we were
mapping like the human genome and everything, so there were
concerns about it. Then we were trying to bring back
a wooly mammoth, not mix a turn Instead, we made
the chicken's breast bigger so we can have more chicken.
Wow like that America. Yeah, we ended up using it
for food stuff, which I mean, like, all right, whatever,
but can we also have a wooly mammoth.
Speaker 2: I think they just want a wooly mammoth.
Speaker 3: I think they might have actually done the wooly mammoth.
Speaker 1: Wellcheck check my math and not in the coms, they
get other stuff. Anything they bring back is inevitably some
form of hybrid.
Speaker 3: Yah.
Speaker 1: They tried it with the Tasmanian tiger. Didn't last long.
They did it for like a goat and it didn't
last too long.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they did.
Speaker 1: The sheep was lucy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, was just a click.
Speaker 1: Like when it comes to bringing back in endangered stuff,
it's always been some weird hybrid and I think they
don't really like it.
Speaker 3: Is kind of funny though, like not to keep robson
in the Jurassic Park, because again, I feel like in
this instance, probably just parallel thinking, this is the one
you could do, but you had it like in a
research center. And while he's like taking this calling have
all like the science shit in the back, I really
sell that.
Speaker 1: Like, oh no, we're saving lives here, guys.
Speaker 2: So his secretary or whatever comes in and she's like, look,
remember that thing I told you about? Uh that's going
on at Unis with the chickens, and he's like, chickens.
What about the chickens. He's like, well, somebody was killed
by this thing and they sent off one of the
wound samples to somebody and they did an analysis on it.
And they found one of our genetic codes in the
saliva or whatever. Yeah, and he's like, well, couldn't the
animal just eat a fucking chicken and then kill somebody?
Speaker 1: And she's like, well, yeah, it's a really big chick
or it's a really big.
Speaker 2: Chicken killer chicken.
Speaker 1: We have this thing out like on the prow. Jennifer
is walking around aimlessly.
Speaker 2: Definitely not a chick. Well, I mean it is kind
of a chicken. So a mutated chicken dot picks up,
picks her up, and gives her a ride back to
the compound. Not even like a mile up the road,
they find that poor fuck with his dick bitting off,
just lying in the roads.
Speaker 1: Spanish. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they don't know what the fun
he says to Spanish.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Penis is missing, that's all we got in off.
Speaker 1: He's like la dinosaurio, which a Spanish for it's a dinosaur.
She's like, I have no fucking what he's saying.
Speaker 2: That wertes the five deaths.
Speaker 3: Well, anyway, they don't have a flashlight any kind of light,
but docs make sure to have a lighter and a joint.
Speaker 1: He's like around this.
Speaker 2: So they're trying to save this guy, but they also
don't save him at all, and then it just cuts
to the two guys that are looking.
Speaker 1: For the Connoisseur TM.
Speaker 2: And they're like, what the fuck are we looking for?
Speaker 1: Anyway?
Speaker 2: By the way, Diane Ladd has like cameras everywhere. Yes,
she's watching them drive everything, they say, everything they do,
and they're like, holy shit, watch out, and they hit
the brakes and this fucking dinosaur or car excuse me,
cornoisaur comes through the fucking windshield and rips this guy
out rips his.
Speaker 1: Like fucking survival. It's like, what, hey, dinosaur, what you
just eat animals out in the wild? Why are you
going through the giant truck when she.
Speaker 3: Second time because every time the ship out there, Man,
it's the desert.
Speaker 1: There's ship in the desert.
Speaker 2: Not that this thing knows to eat.
Speaker 1: Right Still, I don't think it should be headbutting a truck.
Speaker 2: Well, it's starving.
Speaker 3: It doesn't understand glass that we established now twice and
it kills them both in the truck.
Speaker 2: This guy's guts up.
Speaker 1: Then we go to fallon again.
Speaker 3: This time I swear to god, he's laying down on
this fucking senator's desk just a battle.
Speaker 1: Bacon berry guys, if you had room, I would have
done this whole episode like that.
Speaker 2: It's the funniest thing because he's just like laying in
front of the center and he's like he's like like
that fucking blueberry pine.
Speaker 1: And Connie Chong did not like this. No, she brought
it up in her h Yeah.
Speaker 2: This was she has like a chart of JP and
Carnosaur and it was like gross lines. Yeah, and that
one got the check Martin.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I think even Ciscler I think maybe they mentioned,
like how comedic it was just laying on the table.
Speaker 4: The best tasting blueberries, the best most delicious blueberry pie
you ever tasted.
Speaker 5: We coated it in a thin embryonic layer of goat
ebry It's like, what if that pie could sit on
a shelf, not not refrigerated, mind you, a shelf for
eighteen months and still be the freshest pie you ever ate.
Speaker 1: It's like, that's amazing, How fuck did you do that?
Speaker 4: It's like when we took each little blueberry and we
coated it in a thin layer of goat embryonic fluid,
and the.
Speaker 1: Guy just starts like throwing up his Clark Riswold was
just in his pants, was like all the food.
Speaker 2: He's like, He's like, you know, I made that fucking
lacquer for corn flakes. I should have did that embryonic
fluid for the Oh. He's actually probably more the.
Speaker 3: Belt that lasts for three years in the bagkie.
Speaker 2: He's working for Brian Doyle Murray.
Speaker 1: That's the he's the CEO of.
Speaker 3: Unice and they're gonna tell those blueberries covered in goat something.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get the embryonic Blueberry of the Month club.
Speaker 3: They're gonna sell it to Robert de Nero and Casino.
He's gonna have the exact right amount of blueberries.
Speaker 1: In each month. Oh my god. With the goat shit on.
Speaker 2: John Rickles is eating it and thrown it up in
the corner.
Speaker 1: He likes it, but he throws up anyway. Brian Doyle
is like, got me that chicken lady. She's gonna make
chickens better. It's good Brian Doyle. I don't think I've
heard many Brian doyleberry impressions, but if I did, that's
probably the best. That was good. Yeah, that took me
out of my seat a little bit. You gotta meet
my friend Joe. He does really good impressions. Oh, like, oh,
Brian doyleber I'm also I do I do good voices.
Speaker 3: I love how though his like an assistant or whatever
comes up to fallon and like kind of shuffles them
away to tell them some information. He's like, oh man,
this isn't good. Don't let the center fire.
Speaker 1: This is a big fucking mess. Is the biggest Like
what mess? Huh. He's like, oh, I mean this mess here,
let's clean that up for you.
Speaker 2: Clean up that pie. By the way, I don't want
to have a bio hazard about fucking chickens anywhere. Can
we clean this up?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what it's about. The chicken. And then he's like,
let's go get ship mased something.
Speaker 2: Come on, Uncle Sam's the executives are gonna buy you
a drink down at the bar. I guess that's they're
at fucking the Sinjohnore Company.
Speaker 3: Then we have this guy Jesse played by Frank Novak.
He had like call Tip Tree earlier, like nervous.
Speaker 2: This is the this is the dad of the chick
who got eat in the GP. He's the other scientist.
Speaker 1: He's like, we gotta contain it.
Speaker 2: And he's all sick and ship.
Speaker 3: Okay, that makes more sense because he does mention where's
my daughter?
Speaker 1: Where's my daughter?
Speaker 3: And Tip trees like it's okay, calm down, like through
the monitor, I'm taking you right.
Speaker 1: Through her to her. We're gonna go down this elevator.
She was attacked and she's fine, we saved her. And
he's like really, yeah.
Speaker 3: Right over the top pandicked acting by this guy not sweat.
Speaker 1: He needed more sweat.
Speaker 2: He's like.
Speaker 1: She's like, it's okay, we'll show you. And he's like,
oh really, and she's like, yeah, go.
Speaker 2: Through the door.
Speaker 1: Right through the door that says do not go in
you're a dinosaur.
Speaker 2: And well he she opened it opens up to like
this fucking laser light.
Speaker 1: Show with a t Rex seems mean to t Rex,
It's like, I thought you liked these things. Why are
you put them in a laser room scaring the shit out.
Speaker 2: She's gotta put baby in the cage. It's like a
laser cage.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just sitting there like, ah, I don't know what
I'm supposed to do. You can help the next generation
by by feet getting fed to it, and she like says,
you know, she's calling out fucking.
Speaker 2: Numbers, like Lex Luthor, she's like a one. Two things
go off and the t rex just goes over and
and like goes to bite him and he falls into
like the thing from Resident Evil to Arm and gets
cut off.
Speaker 1: Didn't hit the button fast enough.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just all the things you want to see,
because it's like this giant puppet eating this fucking guy
and it's like shaking him around and ships.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like they're doing it in all three. It's great,
but it'll be like maybe a giant puppet and then
like as soon as it bites someone, it's just ragged off.
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, well it's like a hand puppet eating
like a smaller puppet.
Speaker 1: It's great.
Speaker 3: I also wonder if the Beakler and his team were like,
you know what, even if these dinosaurs aren't one hundred
percent up the snuff again budget, we got at least
a cool laser handcuver the movie.
Speaker 2: I mean, there are some cool shit in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it is.
Speaker 3: I just I like that added detail. It's not always
just a dinosaur killing somebody or maiming them.
Speaker 2: In this case, we do get a small scene here
that we have to note where like the proests. The
protesters from the camp like chain themselves to the fucking
backo and.
Speaker 1: Shit, I love this because you know where this is gone.
Speaker 2: You're like, oh, they're fun. And Doc Smith's like, yeah,
enjoy see you later. I'm going to the diner.
Speaker 1: But by the way, there's some bobcats around. They're back
and there right, They're like bobcats, Yeah, real funny. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, he's trying to scare them, unchain themselves and leave.
But he goes to fucking the diner. Joy's Diner and
Clint Howard's they're eating his meat loaf or whatever.
Speaker 1: I would ask Clint Howard to leave and I would
fire that chef if I own that place.
Speaker 3: Oh god, yeah, the chef's talking about bobcats today. You're
the bobcats.
Speaker 1: Attack that guy.
Speaker 2: Right when you walk right when he walks in, Clint
Howard's like, I don't have my gravy from my meat loaf,
and he's and like one gravy coming up and he
like coughs on it and he gives it to him
and hits the bell.
Speaker 1: I'm like so disgusting. And they start talking about like
violent attacks with bob guts and the guy's like, do
you mind quiet down? You're upset of my wife. She's pregnant.
Speaker 2: I know my wife is pregnant.
Speaker 1: You know, we don't know, we don't know who you
guys are.
Speaker 2: And Clinton, how just like ship, I were telling you
about the chime that uh that that one guy like
caught that prize buck and his wife was pregnant, right,
well they had.
Speaker 1: She had the baby, and the damn baby came out
in his little antlers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and all the other characters are just like laughing
like yeah, fuck damn n didn't pay Fuck the nice one, Clint, Yeah, Clinton,
you're you're picking that up right, ha nah.
Speaker 1: Getting his heart chacket.
Speaker 2: This guy's eating and every fuck uh so exactly what
you think is gonna happen is about to happen because
the cornistore fucking comes up and wakes like the head
of the protesters up and he's like he's eating.
Speaker 1: He's like, hello, my green brother, it's an alien. What
the fuck?
Speaker 2: This guy gets a viscerated immedi gets jumped on by
the fucking carnoisaur.
Speaker 3: Jennifer Runyan's the only smart when she changed herself to
the inside of the excavator.
Speaker 1: Greetings, my green brother fucking like eats his face off.
That looks so good. It looks great. What is the movie?
What is the land on? Are we for the environmentalist
or the construction eyes were destroyed because they kind of
the construction dude ends up saving the day. But then also, well, well, tony,
they're out.
Speaker 2: They're back from extinction and out for revenge. Don't forget
this is Dinosaur Alley. It's returning to its roots.
Speaker 3: Definitely anti corporation, anti government covering ship up. But it
also is, like you kind of said earlier, in that
era where activists were kind of made fun of on
the regular.
Speaker 1: There's really no good guy to kind of root for.
I guess like the mothers who were dinosaurs.
Speaker 3: Early nineties were coming off the eighties.
Speaker 1: There's that that sentiment still there.
Speaker 2: And it's funny you said that that's that's a that's
a point of death machine. Oh yeah, yeah, there's like
radicals in that that are trying to bring down the
big corporations and stuff.
Speaker 3: I mean that one even goes a little deeper where
the corporation is secretly due to Brad Dwarf's bullshit actually
causing a lot.
Speaker 2: Of this, like like man's best friend when uh, you know,
Ali Sheet's like part of that where she's trying to
save the dogs from experiments and ship like.
Speaker 3: That, except in this case there's a fucking dinosaur on
the loose, not a Carnisaur TM the what was that again?
Speaker 1: The Delapoys, Oh.
Speaker 3: It's definitely carniscore TM definitely gonna eat this guy's face
off and then go after this other woman and rip her.
Speaker 1: Fucking leg off. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I love I love her reaction because she's screaming and
then she just immediately goes into shot and the camera
pans down. She has no leg and this fucking puppet's like, no, right,
it's like seven ft tall.
Speaker 3: Man, I was gonna say, it's like raptor size, eating it.
Speaker 2: Like a fucking lamb chop lollipopra park Raptor. Just clarify, Yeah,
like we said the wrong Raptor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, not wrap, not five, not cardis are five rapped?
Speaker 1: Although they did find a Utah raptor that was kind
of big like the movie.
Speaker 2: Really yeah, Okay, that's what Alan Grant is brushing off
in the beginning.
Speaker 1: Duho philosopher Aptor. They look it up, like, are those Asiana.
You gotta read the book.
Speaker 3: Michael Crichton lays it all after it makes it make
as much sense as he possibly could.
Speaker 2: So Doc Shock shows up, chases it off. He gets
out of the car and shoots it, and it runs
away somehow. Jennifer Runyan she like unchanged herself in the
madness and like hid inside the.
Speaker 3: Like I said, she was the only one smart enough
to chain herself to the inside of the vehicle.
Speaker 2: So he's able to save her. And there's like fucking
hands hanging from the chains and ship. It's great.
Speaker 1: That's a great visual.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So we get a quick scene too with the
sheriff and and uh doctor Raven, not Doc Smith, but
the actual doctor. And this is where it establishes the
fact that either there's multiple animals or this thing is growing,
because the lesions on the on the first bodies compared
to the most recent bodies have grown exponentially, like the
bite marks, the claw.
Speaker 1: Like now it's like seven inches. This is getting big.
Speaker 3: And the fucking sheriff is still like, I don't mean
to beat this into the dirt, but the movie kind
of does itself, like.
Speaker 1: All right, fucking Bobcat, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: And the Doctor's like, I don't know if that theory
is holding water anymore.
Speaker 2: Then this gets a little dicey because they put uh,
you know, Jennifer Runyan and doctor like in the you know,
he puts her in the in the trailer, but then
she's by herself. He leaves to do something and she's
like looking through his art books. She finds out she's
an artist. But he also has like a real macabre
side to him, we find out because there's like a
there's like a fucking Clyde Barker painting and in his book.
Speaker 1: That's just in there like for this jump scare that's
about to have.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, but like when he sees the guy with
the dick bitting off, he like zones out, so something
has happened to him before, which is probably why he's drunk,
which is also good visual story.
Speaker 1: That's why we need that blurry, we need.
Speaker 3: The extended cut behind the scenes.
Speaker 2: So this thing starts to break in the fucking trailer
and Jennifer run like grabs a gun and like shoots
it and chases it off like.
Speaker 1: Jason or some shit.
Speaker 3: And the part of what too, I guess that was,
But again, like we said it does not understand class.
Speaker 1: It just says, all right, that's that's a Cli clear plane. Yeah,
me jumped through this fucking thing.
Speaker 2: So Doc is just he finds the truck with the
two Hunter guys and he's like, oh man, I can't
believe they're dead. And he hears Diane Ladder's secretary on
him like, hey, did you guys find a subject number
one yet? And he's like, yeah, we found subject number
one and bringing them in now and they're like great, excellent,
they're on their way.
Speaker 3: He knows how to get to the UNIS facility and
every yeah, he.
Speaker 2: Puts the fucking jumpsuit on, puts one of the guys
under a tarp and he's like, yeah, uh yeah, I
got it right here, shot it with a dark it's fine.
Speaker 1: Let me in. They're like, okay, come on in, not
let me see the.
Speaker 3: God yeah, there's no fucking X ray machine in this
high tech facility.
Speaker 2: Or like, you definitely don't look like the guy who
was driving that truck before.
Speaker 1: Again, that's the problem with her being the only one
in on the bad guy. You need who are also
in on the plan. Well, I don't know how you
find them.
Speaker 2: Rod Steiger had it figured out in the Kindred.
Speaker 1: That's a good point.
Speaker 2: He made his own people a fish.
Speaker 1: Woman, that's how you do it. That's how you do it.
This is make your own mute working man. This is
how someone can just walk in and just suck up your.
Speaker 2: She needed to genetically engineer a fucking person who was
part fucking dinosaur, like doctor Moreau.
Speaker 3: Yes, well that's that's her fucking idol.
Speaker 1: We'll find out because now of all the fucking idols
of the world.
Speaker 3: Because the other shoe has now fucking dropped, is now
people aren't just coughing now, the clinic isn't just full
with people.
Speaker 1: Have they found the egg yet? That's where I'm leading
up to the epidemic.
Speaker 2: They find this fucking egg. You see the sheriff at
home with his wife. He gets home early in the
morning and all his whole family's sick, and he's like, oh,
if you're sick, you know, go with the girls and
I'll make breakfast. And he's cracking these fucking eggs open
and they're just green goo inside.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well that's kind of again, Like I just said,
that's the the other shoe drop And the next plot
point finally being delivered spoon fed to us.
Speaker 2: And he drops one of the eggs and inside is
a fucking dinosaur embryo, like, oh that's.
Speaker 1: Alive that he takes the doctor.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they're looking at it under I guess a microscope. Yeah,
I don't know why.
Speaker 1: You need that. I guess her plan. Like the eggs again,
it's working too fast, like one hatch and now other
ones are starting. The eggs are just starting to grow dinosaurs.
Speaker 3: That's why it could have led to a kind of
not that that was the point, but it could have
led to a cool like zombieesque yeah, like part two.
Speaker 2: But the end game is that people are women are
going to consume the chicken eggs and then the embryo
grows within them. But also it's a spreadable disease by
contact and airborne.
Speaker 1: No, I think it's because people have been eating the chickens.
Oh is that why they're still like a while? I
think she might have been doing this for a minute now.
Speaker 2: It couldn't be because, uh, Jennifer Runyon is a vegetarian
and she doesn't need the eggs and she gets sick
at the end. Plus they make a lot of notes
to like cut people coughing on shit and coffee.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, maybe it is a little bit of both.
It definitely comes from the chickens. It's airborne, it's kind
of the bird. But I think it's also from the
eggs and shep. I think there's two ways to spread it.
Speaker 2: But you know, Clint still eating that fucking chicken and
he's got a bucket of it as he's.
Speaker 1: Walking through this. Yeah, that throws it off. He's eating
a lot of it.
Speaker 2: I mean, my chicken checking on, he'd be patient zero.
He's just Clint Howard. He's just like immune. It's like,
imagine I am legend with Clinton Howard. Oh my god,
the dinosaurs.
Speaker 3: But like I said earlier, he's a fucking say this,
He's eating that chicken leg in front of all the chickens.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh yeah, I don't know if they know
what it is, but uh yeah, he you know, of
course doesn't. He's just you know, when we got up
the body count. So this fucking dynamicis carnisaur is like
up in the.
Speaker 1: Rafters build a spider man.
Speaker 2: Dude drops down and fucking kisses him right on the
head because he bites it off and rips it off.
It's great.
Speaker 1: He's got a spider web at the bott it's him
back up.
Speaker 2: It's so fucking good, dude. So so like Sean said
that the sheriff takes the dinosaur of the doctor and
they're like, huh, it's just fucking weird. Hmm. And that's
pretty much the end of that.
Speaker 3: Also, just before he moved too far away from it,
his wife's like, yeah, I'm really sick. I'm coming down
with something. Yeah, our kids are sick too.
Speaker 2: I had mentioned that.
Speaker 1: Uh no, I know. He's like, all right, honey, have
a nice day. Kids.
Speaker 3: Lift I'm like, all right, you do not give a fuck.
Speaker 1: Well, if she's gonna be sick, I'll be sick too.
Speaker 2: If my wife is sick or if I'm sick, we
don't care about that. It's like, well, yeah, we're gonna
be sick. We're gonna be sick.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe he didn't realize how sick she was.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think that he figured that a fucking
dinosaur was gonna be ges stating in her stomach or
his eggs.
Speaker 1: For that man. Yeah, because I saw this movie at
such a young age, I always think that if I
have a girlfriend, She's like I'm sick, and I'm like,
get that fucking you got a dinosaur, baby, get it
away from me.
Speaker 2: These are the scenes that gross me out as a kid,
and I was like, that's fucking funky man eggs and
fucking with my food. It's scarier than the dinosaurs, scarier
than and the contamination in that like plague thing that's
happening in the movie was always freakier to me than
the dinosaurs.
Speaker 1: This does feel really resident evil, oh big nice, feels
like umbro dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, even though yeah, it's a fucking bio's evil. Yeah,
it's funny you mentioned that because some of the music
cues in this kind of reminded me Ris should you mccamie, he's.
Speaker 1: A fan of Carnoisaur.
Speaker 3: The truth comes out he did do Dinal Crisis or
Capcom did so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're at the lab and Doc has figured it
all out, and he's and he's got Diane Ladd. At gunpoint,
he's like, what the fuck is going on here?
Speaker 1: Can I mention something about the lab? Yeah? Something I learned?
Oh okay, uh that lab is also Doctor Doom's Layer
from Fantastic four? Are you kidding me? And also the
Fantastic fours uh from the Baxter Building. I watched it
when we me riley A meant we were watching the
Doom documentary and they point out that they just as
soon as like Carnosaur was done, they repurposed it for
fantastic for.
Speaker 2: I gotta watch that. I gotta watch that documentary now.
Speaker 1: Like the documentary is on YouTube. The movie because but
he's like under a gun pointing there. There's like those
walls with those like triangle sort of columns that is
from Doctor ship Man. It was like repaint it, thrown
shit up there. Yeah, because he fucking gets in there,
like we were talking about earlier.
Speaker 3: No Wax Raymond, she no way to No security's just
in there and she's like, all right, let me see
what's in the bag, opens it up at just one
of the mooks and.
Speaker 1: She's like, oh, fucking points and god at her.
Speaker 2: He's got our gun point and he's in there talking
and he's like, tell me what the fuck's going and
she's like, there's nothing you can do. You can't be safe. Meanwhile,
the secretary pops up on the screen. She's like, oh,
mistivvid Topper, I'm sick.
Speaker 1: She's like, Okay, honey, why don't you come up here and.
Speaker 2: You know, let me see you first before you leave.
Speaker 1: He's like, ok going like one of these like mister Burns.
She's like, oh, I can finally use my experiment. She
turns to Doc and she's like, let me show you what.
Speaker 2: I've been working.
Speaker 3: Oh god, yeah, she goes fi evil, but.
Speaker 1: So she like takes her tempt She's like, a perfect
you're at the perfect spot. He'll lay down down the couch.
All of a sudden, this woman starts going into fucking
labor and Doc's like, oh my odd, breathe, push, breathe push.
Speaker 3: She's like, your DNA is now a battlefield. It's like
the fire of creation. And he's like, what the fun?
Speaker 2: Every cell of you is turning into something more beautiful.
Speaker 1: This one's not so much gory, but it is the
most effective in the film. Those legs going.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like the noises of this ripping open.
Speaker 1: Dude, the legs going spread out and the sound effect.
I'm like, oh, it hurts to watch it.
Speaker 2: You remember that chicken from the beginning that we were
talking about, and that's what happens here. Pops out a
fucking dinosaur record like this, but I guess it's similar
to the size of a baby, but it's not as pliable.
I think, right, it's just a hard shelled thing, like.
Speaker 3: The same size as the that larva that the chick
pops out and Apple gates.
Speaker 1: It's about the right na.
Speaker 3: Yeah, while later somebody else pops one out and ends
up like the one on Apple Gates. Because now that
they've established that this is how these things pro create,
for lack of a better term, now that she starts
explaining it in a moment, but it's like, oh, oh shit,
they're like xenomorphs. Yeah, kind of like xenomorphs, but they
come out of the female body through the vagina into
an egg and they kill you in the process.
Speaker 2: And when I like about this too, as we see
it as a movie keeps going, they it starts, they
start to become more mammal like than they become than
they're reptile like, because right now an egg pops out, true,
and she gets the egg.
Speaker 3: And I think it is also just the speed at
which these things are again, not to keep reasoning use
the word evolving because it's not the right word, but
I think you get what I mean, they're growing faster
and faster, so you're right. Eventually it's like, well, we
don't need the egg anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, as this breothing scene has happened, I just w
we jump back to Follin real quick because he's like
what what he likes talking? Now we're in the tent
and he's talking.
Speaker 1: To what are you talking about?
Speaker 2: She's been doing jeans blazing on fucking chickens.
Speaker 3: But I didn't know about this shit when you even
razy this military set they set up as part of
like the infant state infestation like outbreak, and this is when.
Speaker 1: They're talking about theoretical scenarios that might happen. Yeah, with
like they're like humanity could be fifty percent in like
seven weeks, and they're just like this could wipe us out.
And the guy goes, well, not, actually, we've been working
on artificial wounds and we can have a we can
grow a new crop of females, and I love that
all these and her saying this in front of the
girl who's quiet, It's like, what did you just say? Yeah? Right,
Falon's assistant, You're like, well, you're just gonna replace Okay,
We're not gonna try and stop those artificial uteruses.
Speaker 2: We're fine, although they do.
Speaker 1: You say, like, is there a seerum? They're like, if
there is, we don't know what it is. We don't
have this lady do whatever the fuck she wanted.
Speaker 2: Apparently, why aren't we storming the fucking lab that she's
in and being like, what are you doing?
Speaker 3: Right? Just get twenty people to shoot her in the
face and.
Speaker 2: Call her Yeah, like, well we'll get to They put
Utah under quarantine or at least that town, and now
we get the whole thing about what Diane Lad's plan is.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: She wants to give the world back to the dinosaurs,
and Doc says that man, that would make a great
theme park, wouldn't it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Which is funny because Brimitive War is coming out
this fall.
Speaker 2: I wanted to bring that up.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The tagline is like this ain't no walk in
the park.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's great. I can't wait for By
the way, that that was weirdly enough, you're doing a
live on that. If you don't, Aready have somebody.
Speaker 1: It's probably gonna be on the September other wrap up
on some I.
Speaker 2: Would love to talk about that.
Speaker 3: That was partially why we did this episode. I don't
know if we'll have time to do a Ripe review
on it, but that kind of inspires.
Speaker 2: This later on doing a commentary yeah video, Yeah, because
I mean that's that's also what spurred this Carnivore episode
was Primitive War. Yeah, yeah, coming out curious and what's
good and the new Jurassic Park that also dropped.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 2: So Diane lads vamping about, you know, wiping out the
human race, making complete genocide, but also taking human DNA
and putting it into the dinosaurs and making essentially making
fucking Koopa City one is what we're getting to, right.
Speaker 1: So she wants to give the world back to the dinosaurs,
and my problem is, well, you don't have all the dinosaurs. No,
some of these I don't think we're the late Cretaceous
when the dinosaurs were done.
Speaker 3: Well that's a Jurassic World problem also or park rather.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'll just well, yeah, that's just like at
least there to any It was like, well, no, if
you want to pick up where the dinosaur is left off,
you don't have some of the right ones. Also, like
the world has changed since that. She's like this world
was built for them. Like, okay, well, now the continents
are all in other places, the air is different, Like
this isn't meant you couldn't bring a dinosaur back, like.
Speaker 3: It was built for their socks on in the tropics, right, Yeah,
and also there were several extinctions before, like like people
like to think of t Rex and Stegosaurus being around
the same time.
Speaker 1: No, they were separated by millions of years. Like there's
been but six they mentioned in X files this like
five extinctions, yeah, mass sections. Like lady, what is your
I get you want to kill humanity because you don't
like them, But the whole we got to bring back
the dinosaur make sense?
Speaker 2: Why not just make the disease of chickens and kill.
Speaker 1: Everybody or bugs destroy the crops.
Speaker 3: But she's going on like an all time hater's rant
about this, like about how humanity has squandered basically their
right to exist. And then she like even throws out
like you know, God is an acronym for a generator
of diversity, And I'm like, Jesus, Lee, you've lost the
fucking plot.
Speaker 2: Well, this is what happens. Alazar Kane comes, which is
her protege, picks up her work and creates the fucking
Theodore Rex universe. That's what happens.
Speaker 1: She is doing like a James Bond villain, but she's
like the worst James Bond villa because again she doesn't
have followers or henchman. She's like, I did a thing,
I got a little out of control and to early.
You're right, though, Joe.
Speaker 3: She takes the technology, she goes with Job Buchanan.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 3: At the end of the movie, disappears into a different dimension,
different part of the movie.
Speaker 2: Dumps universe takes takes Santa whoopee and makes her a
fucking android or something.
Speaker 1: Somewhere in the MDU.
Speaker 3: It does exist, right, there's that little tiny robot that
talks to them.
Speaker 1: So then she mentions that Doctor Moreau is her idol,
the fictional doctor who's the bad guy he gets murdered.
You know, I made a little womb guy, but I
never made a dinosaur pis and let's try it where
neils A Dalea Rosa fit into this.
Speaker 2: They're playing piano together.
Speaker 1: Like that's not who you want your idol to be.
Let's seem like I'm in following case to go to
that mansion. There's like a Mary Shelley painting him like
the lady who said you shouldn't do this, you have
a painting of her and then you did it anyway.
Speaker 2: Well we know what happened with that joke, you can,
and that is why we have genetically engineered dinosaurs.
Speaker 3: Like when the Emperor told Danik and all about how
much he admired this guy Darth Play, and nobody put
together that he.
Speaker 1: Is the dark lore. He was great, he could make
people come back from the dead. I definitely didn't kill
him do it anyway.
Speaker 2: So, Yeah, the sheriff is at home and like, here's
the carnisour outside, so decides to take it upon himself
to go kill it.
Speaker 1: Talk about it all the time, hater. He's got the
fucking jaka.
Speaker 3: Come on where it's like, fucking I know what you
did last summer, Come on and get me.
Speaker 1: Where are you wait? Is his family like dead when
he's reading to them. I don't they're dying because like
their eyes are just something like when I was watching it.
Speaker 2: The other day, Rice Man, you know, I think so
because it's a dark scene.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's like reading them and he seems sad.
I'm like, did they die and not blinking and yeah,
I think we're led to believe that they died and
he's just going out shock and he knows a dinosaur
is yeah, so he's just gonna take his anger out
on the dinosaur.
Speaker 2: I was gonna gloss over that, but now that you
mentioned that, like that's a really sad scene. Especially if that's.
Speaker 1: Really depressing scene, it's starts one coming up with like
an execution, Like this is sad.
Speaker 3: So I mean, up unt this point, there's no cure.
So yeah, it probably is that they're just dead.
Speaker 2: I don't even think they know what's going on. It's
just like a massive epidemic.
Speaker 1: The way I read that scene is that they're dead,
they died, and he's lost.
Speaker 3: If that's not true, I like your yeah, because the
next scene, he's going out there looking for something the.
Speaker 2: Corner store, like rips into like a pet shop and
like eats a bunch of fucking pets, and then like
he's out there with a shotgun. But yeah, like Seun said,
basically calling out this fucking dinosaur and it runs up
behind him and he fucking turns around and blash this
thing right in the chest.
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe that's all it took.
Speaker 2: I mean a shotgun.
Speaker 1: Yeah right.
Speaker 2: Haven't you ever played Dino Crisis.
Speaker 1: I mentioned it earlier?
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but it gets him in the process as
it is dying, he's like screaming at it still instead
of just finishing it off like shooting in the head
and move on, claw.
Speaker 2: Them right through foot like goes backwards and gets the
raptor clowth through his stomach and then he fucking blows
this thing's head.
Speaker 1: Ahead off there.
Speaker 3: It's great, what a fucking badass to go out again.
You probably could have survived, but like muldoon, clever girl. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now the government wants to save these dinosaurs or like
save the race of these things or whatever.
Speaker 1: Well I think they want to like contain it. But
then like they see they because they talk about like
we could grow a whole new generation to humanity that
will be like we can direct.
Speaker 2: And hard dinosaur.
Speaker 3: Well, the fucking cook from the diner comes driving in
like down the road and you don't know who's with them.
Speaker 1: You find out it's the waitress. But he's like, oh, yeah, okay,
there's the government. They'll help us.
Speaker 3: And it's like all guys in like contamination. Yeah right,
it's the Blob. Or again, I keep mentioning Zimmy movies,
but if you've seen Zombi movies.
Speaker 1: You're like, oh no, Like the CDC guys from Siphon
Filter the Yellow, they.
Speaker 2: Remind me of the Crazy or like Ratsarian.
Speaker 3: It's a common trope by this movie has come out.
But it's like, yeah, if the government's wearing those suits
and they got machine guns, they ain't gonna help you.
Speaker 2: They're more likely to just killing you, and we might
as well talk about it right here. But when they
bring that lady back there, the way she's giving birth
to this fucking dinosaur, like, ah, what's going on here?
This is like the first instance of her spitting out
a dinosaur with the egg kind of falling apart, so
like they're starting to not need eggs because people's bodies
are changing, so now they're becoming more mammal like, and
that half breed shit is kind of kicking in. And
this is like the tent where Fallons posted up and
he's like, holy, she's like just just gratty picks up.
Speaker 1: He's like, we're gonna make a fortune with this place.
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll have a coupon day or something.
Speaker 3: See the John exactly, the bloodsucking lawyer. He's like, all right,
get some of these into Cairo. Wow, that's how I
used did I say?
Speaker 1: I say it? It's been a while since problem with
the Egyptians? You know what I said? Dinosaurs the egypt
to go back to Project Metal Beast. I think that
was the episode I.
Speaker 2: Said, Kyro, it was alien alien Romulus.
Speaker 1: I didn't know what.
Speaker 2: I didn't know what the fuck he was talking about.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I must have missed something. And then afterward
he's like, oh, I meant crying like fun when you
say in the beginning, you say a word wrong. For
almost forty years, it takes a little while to get
all right.
Speaker 1: Crying cry.
Speaker 2: That's ak.
Speaker 1: When you say words wrong and pronounce it wrong and
everyone makes fun of you. Are you guys gonna go
see jewels in theater? Jewels?
Speaker 2: Well, you you just have a bad accent.
Speaker 1: That's different. I'm just stupid. You go see jowels.
Speaker 3: It's not as bad as I'll drop this nuke on myself.
It's not as bad as for years I thought MacB
was maca bright and I said it wrong in.
Speaker 1: Front of somebody. It might even have been what the
fuck are you saying?
Speaker 2: Just saying a lot of ship where I'm like, what.
Speaker 1: The nobody ever corrected me? I don't know.
Speaker 3: You pretty good about that, There is occasionally.
Speaker 1: There are times where you have to read it right
out loud and you're like sure, like I've never said it.
Speaker 3: And.
Speaker 2: You can look at all of us. So, yeah, this
is where Doc holds Diane Land a gunpoint and she
she's her secret egg room, right, and he's like, you motherfucker,
you're making these things.
Speaker 1: And he's running out the back door.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got like a whole suitcase full of these eggs. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So he's like, he's like, you either start talking and
tell me how I'm gonna fix this, or I start
scrambling these fucking eggs.
Speaker 1: So she's like, there's nothing you could do. So he's
she's he starts shooting the eggs like the fucking.
Speaker 2: Alien queen, almost making a bargain with this woman. So
he ends up getting the raw virus to make an
anti virus with right how he knows how, I don't know,
but it doesn't work like that because you need to
synthesize an anti virus. Sure, if you ever played Resident evil.
You know, you need the piece of the T virus,
and you need some other ship to synthesize a fucking cure.
You don't just shoot yourself with the original virus.
Speaker 1: And get better. We need Tony Tony Chopper up in here.
He could do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So yeah, she's like, okay, fuck you, and he takes
the He takes the thing, and he leaves. Meanwhile, she's
setting herself up with like hot water in a blanket,
and shit.
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 1: She's so dedicated to this plan. She'll also be a
victim of it. This was always the plan. Yeah, I'm like,
you're not gonna stick around to see if it works? Well,
She's she pretty much did.
Speaker 2: She's like, everything's working, she's giving birth to the egg
and everything's quarantined and fucked up.
Speaker 3: She should have took some novacine or something before she decided.
Speaker 1: To do this.
Speaker 2: She knew she was going out, right. Did you think
she was gonna She was like, yeah, I'm gonna pop
out an egg and then maybe I'll die or maybe not.
Speaker 3: I think that's exactly what she thought, because that's what
happened to her.
Speaker 1: Systance.
Speaker 2: Susan Earl, she's been prepping her vagina the whole fucking
time to make sure it was wide enough to give birth.
Speaker 1: So she didn't die, right exactly, She lowed it up anytime.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then what did she plan.
Speaker 1: On freeing that t rex? She didn't have it on
a time or anything.
Speaker 2: It just lets itself out, doesn't because he goes. Because
Doc goes to leave and he she like kind of
traps him in the laser room and she's like a
six twenty four eleven DC engage and the fucking laser
shut off, and the t rex chases after Doc. He
climbs up and out, and the t rex punches its
fucking head through a concrete wall while she's giving birth.
She's getting birth to a t rex, and it's like
a live birth. At this point. It doesn't come out
of her vagina. It pops out of her fucking stomach,
like the Howling three, or like the or like basket
Case two.
Speaker 1: She's regretting that decision, She's like, oh she dies. She's
loving it.
Speaker 2: She's like, okay, like I said, and be the blood
Dinosaurs in nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 1: You could have seen you could have went into one theater.
It's all Lara Durn chased by a raptor, walked into
another theater and it saw Lara Durn's mom ship out
of tea.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could have saw Diane lands bread Eagle, and
you could have walked another theater and saw the Little
Rascals and shot.
Speaker 1: He's into the riddle of Little Rascals, not unaware of
what's going on in any other.
Speaker 2: Baking in the gang are riding the fire hose, trying
to put out the fucking fire on the Woman Haters Club.
Speaker 1: They're they're disguise as ballerinas.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, in the next fruit.
Speaker 3: Sht literally across from each other except Carnisar's way ladder.
Speaker 1: So you're just hearing it in the Little Rascals theater, do.
Speaker 2: You go, little one push Push, Yeah, funny, yeah, right.
Speaker 1: To trust me. I love Doctor Burrow all in Judison,
so uh so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now the fucking t Rex is loose. Doc Doc
Smith runs back to the trailer to see Jennifer Runy
in the fucking t Rex is walking through town and
it hears the fucking payphone ringing, and I'm like and
I'm like, that's Michael Rex calling his friend on the payphone.
Speaker 1: And he didn't pick up looking for Tammy. Yeah, he
was looking for Tanny.
Speaker 2: And he was just like, now, fuck that ship, I
gotta go down to dinosaur Alley, walks right past it,
trying to reach him on that fucking payphone.
Speaker 5: DA.
Speaker 2: So Doc's back in the trailer and he's like trying
to he's calling for a He's.
Speaker 1: Like, oh, we need help.
Speaker 2: There's there, you know, there's anybody out there. And they're like, yeah,
we're here, come over, blue Jay Robinson, whatever. Oh my god,
holy fucking dying shore. It's on it's on the road there,
t Rex.
Speaker 1: It's on the dinosaur Highway. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Doc is like, oh my god, it's on its way here,
like the dinosaur Highway. It's genetic. It's in their DNA
to come back to their migration pattern. Any dinosaur, it
doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be a.
Speaker 1: Galim Mi mister, a t Rex, or a diiconomist or
a fucking Ankleosaurus. I mean t Rex is for North American.
I guess he's got baby. He's got a point there.
But again, the whole environment has changed. Wasn't even a desert, but.
Speaker 2: It wasn't instinctually, and they're like He's like, where's all
the fucking trees and water trees?
Speaker 3: Jennifer Runyon pushes up her non exists in glasses. She's like,
I fucking told you, Dinosaur Highway, it's in this valley.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what have there been water here at something? Yeah?
Right in that canyon. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh So he loads up a syringe of reagent from
the fucking little file sticks Jennifer running with and he's like,
this will make you feel all better.
Speaker 3: He's got that uh that science degree behind some papers
or something that does exactly to do this formula.
Speaker 1: So just for behind the Man the Man magazine paint. God,
what he knew.
Speaker 2: We'll get to that right before, right before we get
the big face off. While he injects Jennifer running with that,
we cut back to the doctor Raven's office. The quarantine
people come in and just start fucking shooting everybody who's
in there that's sick, just lights them all up, kills
them all.
Speaker 1: Like I implied earlier, you're kind of expecting it to happen.
Speaker 3: You're just waiting for when it's pretty ruthless though, man considering.
Speaker 2: So here we go, boys. My one of my favorite
parts of the whole movie. Every time I see a
fucking Bobcat in any construction site, I think of this.
Speaker 3: Series an actual Bobcat, not the animal, but a Bobcat excavator.
Speaker 2: Little boys, it's a yeah, yeah, it's a it's like
a back hoe. So my god, I love it so much.
He jumps in the fucking back home. Jennifer runions in
another one. He's like, stay here, I'm gonna fight this dinosaur.
You see this fucking dinosaur fucking trump into the into
the canyon and he goes fisticuffs with this fucking dinosaur.
With the Bobcat. It's like, get away from her, you dinosaur,
and it like runs into him.
Speaker 3: It's like Aliens a little ye, not as good, but
the idea is certain.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of fun. Yeah, it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: It also helps, like the inside of the Bobcat has
those like metal grades like Aliens.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, it's like a powerloader.
Speaker 1: It's like the most memorable scene in the Frigid movies.
It was on those on your head. I think it's
on that's not on it's on the back. Yes, well
that's from two. Because again they did the forklift. They're
like we don't want to repeat ourselves. It can't be
a tractor. Let's make it a fork.
Speaker 3: And you know, Corman knew, or at least someone on
staff who actually had read the fucking book and probably
Jurassic Corman was like deferring to was like, well, they
don't actually kill the t Rex in Jurassic Parks, so we.
Speaker 1: Could do that.
Speaker 2: No, we're not doing that. So the t Rex flips
his Bobcat and Jennifer running comes to the rescue and
like stabs this thing in the leg and she like
passes out and he gets out and jumps. Now you
ever been you ever worked a Bobcat?
Speaker 3: I have not.
Speaker 2: It's a one seater.
Speaker 1: I know, it's got those those little bars.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, but I'm saying the seat there's only room
enough for one person. So Jennifer Runyon is still in
the Bobcat and Doc jumps on her lap and basically
squishes her, like if Wedge Antilles had to be in
the same seat as Luke Skywalker in the Speeder, Like
this is what it looks like.
Speaker 1: Where's nine nub.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's driving the Millennium Falcon.
Speaker 1: Okay, sure, we're hanging out king in it with Lando.
Speaker 2: He's sitting on Jennifer running his lap, who's fucking passed out,
and he ends up ripping the guts at like rips
his things stomach open and fucking punches it in the
face with the bobcat and pushes it over.
Speaker 1: He's got his tag, He's got his one liner. I
hate wildlife.
Speaker 3: It's like it's not really wild but well that's what
I mean though, right they kill it. Yeah, they don't
kill the t Rex in Jurassic Park, so that's what
I mean. Korn's like, oh, we got one up on it.
We got one up on it.
Speaker 1: They killed the big bino. Do that on JP. It's
like one. I think there's maybe two t rexes' book
at their babies. They're not even full grown Cardiff book.
Speaker 2: The t Rex inadvertently saves everybody in the Graftic park.
The people kill the t Rex.
Speaker 3: That t Rex is still alive, Cannon and like seeing.
Speaker 2: It dying on the like this giant puppet is kind
of like, oh, that's kind of sad. Yeah, because they
do it again in the next one with a lot
of the.
Speaker 3: Same I was fully expecting the shot gonna come out
another head to get blown off, but it just kind
of dies.
Speaker 2: Carnosaur three, So I remember I was gonna say that before,
whereas Raptor is like all the footage there is some
stock footage from Carnisaur to in Carnosaur. Yea, so we
did it, man, we killed this t rex. We're gonna
be all right. I'm gonna go inside. Jennifer unions, fine,
I'm gonna lay her out. You're doing You're gonna be okay.
Oh my god, help us and made it. Come in,
help us And okay, buddy, where you're at. Oh, thank god,
the cavalry's coming. These fucking suits, not suits, but these
the government kicks up in the fucking door, and he's like,
hey guys, and they just fucking light this dude up
and just just picture they shoot the shit out of
him and Jennifer running at the same time.
Speaker 1: And then somebody comes in with the Polaridos click and
they're like, okay, like this bad.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And then they just in case you weren't sure,
they bust out a flamethrow and just light the whole
thing up. And man, the way this movie ends is
with a picture of Alfred E. Newman on the wall.
It's a you know, the famous like what Me Worry
from that magazine.
Speaker 1: Which was the first thing you saw when they were
first introduced to Doc.
Speaker 2: The whole face burns away, and behind that the credits
start coming up but background, yeah, down, yeah, and it's
like you're going from the bottom up. It's really weird.
Speaker 1: It's bizarre.
Speaker 3: I have zero evidence of this information. This is just
my gut feeling. Even though the end of this movie
is kind of crazy with them gutting a fucking te rat.
I feel like Corn was like, it's like that memorable.
Let's do this shock ending with this weird credit speek,
because that's the thing I remember.
Speaker 2: It is the shock ending. It's so bleak and I
love it. It's like, after all that ship.
Speaker 1: It was weird to put that up against dressic, right,
but okay, it's not even down. All the kids are
crying walking out of corner store because everybody else fist
pumping out of JP like, oh yeah, that was so good.
Stevie Spielberg's gen someone walked late into the movie and
they're like, I don't know why you guys like that
movie so much. When the girls ship, the diners are
out they're like, wait.
Speaker 2: Movie, and they then get shot at the end.
Speaker 3: Actually people walking out a little rascals also fist bumping
cart store.
Speaker 1: The only sad ending funny enough because we just said,
like two, just completely ignore it's the whole thing. It's
just like it was fine, and it reminds me. It
reminds me of one of my favorite most underrated shows, Millennium,
The X File Sister Show.
Speaker 2: With Lence Hendrickson with Lance Emerson.
Speaker 1: Season two was building up to a huge viral outbreak.
Speaker 2: It was carnoisaur and then it.
Speaker 1: Was involved with chickens and birds. Birds were spreading it.
It was manipulated by the Millennium Group to manufacture in
a apocalypse, but by one sect of the Millennium Group.
The other sect didn't agree with anyway. Point is what
I'm saying, because seasons two they thought they weren't getting renewed,
so they're like, hey, let's just go big. It just
ends with this viral outbreak and it's like him and
his wife and his daughter in the cab and the
wife dies. We see all this news report of everyone
dying all over the world. And then I got picked
up for season three. Oops, and then someone said, well,
we can't be the Apocalypse, and then someone else probably said,
didn't we put this in the X Files universe? That's
gonna be weird if no one's dead in X Files.
So the season two ends on this incredibly bleak ending,
his hair turns white. You think everyone's signed, and then
season three is like, yeah, I've in Washington State, like
seventy people died, Like that's not time. Well, that series
had different showrunners for each season, so even though I
love it, it's inconsistent. But I'm like, that was a
huge clifbagger and you just dropped it, not as bad
as cardisertooed him. But they're like, oh, yeah, nothing happened.
Speaker 2: Well, Ton, I don't know if you know this or not,
but this is fucking MD you my man. So what
happened was Lence Henrickson was already working for Bishop Wayland.
As far as i'm he made. He made them fucking
chicken disease get short. Yeah that was yeah. Then that
carnosaur happens, and then and then he builds a synthetic
in his own image and there you go. Yeah, tied
it right back to Aliens.
Speaker 1: He tested it out first on a dog. Yes, that
knows how people's break line. Yes, and it could turn
invisible and piss acid and everything. The invisible in the
break line part is where the movie We Gotta Do
loses me around the break line Man's best friend we
Gotta Do. We've been talking about it. Did it with
James a few years back? You want to watch that?
But yeah, you guys have.
Speaker 2: To Hell yeah, I want to do it so bad
that no, boys, where are we putting Carnoisaur?
Speaker 1: Top shelf? Top shelf? Baby? I mean this dumpster? I think.
Speaker 3: I think this Okay, I'll phrase is a specific way.
Last year when I watched it, I really didn't like it.
This year, I liked it more so.
Speaker 1: It was like top dumpster.
Speaker 3: It's dumpster in the sense of like I feel like
it belongs to her because it's like that kind of movie.
It doesn't equate make it to the shelf for me.
I don't like it that much, but I liked it
last time.
Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, that ending? What the fuck? This
time I was prepared for.
Speaker 3: I think the ending kind of really took me out
of it last time, But on this second viewing didn't
bother as much.
Speaker 1: I was kind of like, well, okay, sure, it's very memorable.
Speaker 3: I gotta give Corman that one, and the puppets held
up a lot better than I remember. I don't know,
maybe I've seen more things since then, so my brain
has more movies of the ILK in the last three
sixty not even you get what I'm saying. Yeah, it's
a fun ass movie. I just wish that there was
more going on. But again, like we talked about at
the beginning of this review, less than a million dollar budget,
there's only so much you could do.
Speaker 1: It kind of plays like some of.
Speaker 3: Those Godzilla movies, where you get a little bit of monster,
but it's mostly that human story. That's what you kind
of get in a lot of these these creature features.
Not everything could be alligate or unfortunately that might still
take Taco for the one that shows the monster the
most that we've at least covered on the show, let's say.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's a fun ride.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's actially cashing in on Jurassic Park,
well it is, but I think Corman's a little too
big for his bridges. Even if it's.
Speaker 1: Corman on this.
Speaker 3: They were writing on the success and release of Jurassic
Park to push this, I guess what a better way
to put that is. I don't think it quite gets
there in the low budget realm, and absolutely is there.
It's eating its lunchleas again the budget I think you
get what I'm saying on the show for a while,
but JP still one of the best movies ever made.
Speaker 1: Carnoisaur enjoy it, but nowhere close. I think, I think
you gotta watch Carnoisaur too. Hey, maybe I'll take you now.
Carnosaur one's better.
Speaker 2: You're gonna be a bigger fan of Cornostour two. This
is top shelf, baby. This is such an influential movie
in my life. I can't think about Jurassic Park without
Cornoisaur or Carnisur without Drassic Park. We grew up when
these two movies were coming out. I was a huge
dinosaur kid, and I still am a dinosaur adult. This
first movie, in particular, is such a unique movie because,
like we said about Carnisar two, it's like basically Aliens,
and like Carnisaur three is another one where it's like
there's army guys fighting dinosaurs. But the first one is
kind of this slow burn. We you know, we shouldn't
mess with genetics kind of topical.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Tirical of Barts. It is comedic. So yeah.
Speaker 2: The special effects are amazing and they have so much
charm and wonderful wonderfulness to them that John only John
Beekler can do a big thing for this. When I
was a kid, was the gore in it, like, you know,
one of the only one of the first movies to
have like dinosaurs actually like ripping people apart, which was
really cool, especially when I was a kid. It's still
and it still holds up pretty well. But yeah, at
its core, it's like this it's a pandemic movie and
that always freaked me out as a kid. And then
coming back to it now to actually dissect it and
go through it for the show. It really it really
does it effectively. And I think, like Sean to Shann's
point about the human element of this film, it needs
to be there or else. It's because with the two
other movies it's just dinosaur high jinks, but this has
a really strong backbone to it, and I think that's
why it holds up better than the other movies. So yeah,
I love Cornoisaur so much. I'm looking forward to talking
about the other ones in some different way, maybe a
commentary track or something later. Yeah, but Carnisaur fucking rules.
If you hadn't seen it, definitely check it out. I
mean it's definitely worth It's definitely worth watching at least once.
Speaker 1: For sure.
Speaker 2: It's just a fun ass ride. And it's like, this
is one of those video store movies that you would
always see and look for. And this is what this
was Corman in his nineties prime.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the man pioneered a lot of shit and what's
like the King of B movies. But like he was
still going fucking strong into the eighties and into the
early nineties before he got to Shark to put in
all the sci fi bullsh well him.
Speaker 3: And Charlie band that I love to put together all
the time. By the two thousands the magic was gone.
They needed the money so they had to do something.
But nineties they were still putting out some good stuff.
But this is peak, dude, Fucking puppet Master three, four
and five are right around this time, you know what
I mean, right in the pocket there there's still good
shit coming out. I will say not a negative because,
like we said, the cover's amazing, but like Silverman, a
bit of a band switch.
Speaker 1: You don't. You do still get dinosaurs. It's not like
silver mamors a lot of dinosaurs. He's holding that gun,
he never uses it. We don't get this one. Nine.
I'm a little disappointed at that. Okay, no, it's not
this one. Does she wear this red dress in the movie?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 2: Never?
Speaker 1: Okay, can you show the back of Carnosaur?
Speaker 3: Two?
Speaker 1: Oh, there she is hanging with the red dress. She
doesn't wear the red dress in this movie. This girl
in the red dress being eaten by the t rex
is also not in the movie. So for both movies,
they did weird promotional things where they put ladies in
red dresses who aren't in the movie.
Speaker 2: That's because they the puppets before the movie and they
were like, let's just get some promo pictures eating a
beautiful woman or something.
Speaker 1: So they had a t rex that's not the main
t rex, and they re used the same t rex prop.
But again they get a different t rex for the poster,
such a nippick in the actual scheme.
Speaker 2: I feel like that's either John Beekler's maquette or it's
uh the iss Dononicus grown I mean, it definitely has
the t rex arms.
Speaker 1: I will say this is the raptor from the movie.
Speaker 2: The raptors look like yeah in front on the DVD cover.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I do want to encourage everyone now that they did
do a reprint, check out the original book. Yeah. The
book is fun. It's very sleazy. It is a little fun,
you know. I like it. Definitely a book to the
movie in the future. Yes, I think you guys are
gonna have a lot of fun with it. I wanted
to reread it, but I didn't have time. But I
enjoyed reading it a few years back. It's a quick read.
I would love to see that as a movie, as
you know, I've tried to do it. Yes, but I'm like,
this can actually work as a movie or mini series,
especially after Tiger King, because there is a Tiger King
moment where they called get out. You know, do you
guys watch Tiger King Now? They tell the story about
the other guy who had his own private zoo and
he just let them as something similar happens in the book.
Speaker 2: I don't want to take care of these dinosaurs.
Speaker 1: Ony Mantle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, Ton, where can we find you? And
all your episodes and stuff?
Speaker 1: Well, you can find me over on Hack the Movies
on YouTube or Rumble for twelve people, or on wherever
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Patreon's got better notifications whatnot. So each description I had
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we had fun revisiting two and three. There are a
lot of fun let this one. There's a lot to
talk about too. It's just like, well remember that part
in Aliens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and there it goes.
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Speaker 3: September twenty seventh and twenty eighth. We will be vending
at Crypt Video Rentals goes to Hell at the Shamani
Creek Brewing in Croydon, PA. Come out for Found Footage
Festivals Spooky Spectacular with an opening musical performance from Lapses,
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his brand new documentary Hearts of Darkness The Making of
Jason Goes to Hell, followed by a screening of Jason
Goes to Hell the Final Friday. Grab your tickets now
and let's ring in the spooky season, right.
Speaker 1: We'll see you there.
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Speaker 3: And remember, folks to check your eggs to make sure
there's no green in them and your ham So that's it.
Speaker 2: That's Karnasour from nineteen ninety three, directed by Adam Simon.
I'm Joela Scola, I'm Seana Rourke.
Speaker 1: I'm Tony FROMACAM Movies.
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