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<v Speaker 1>It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven to nine day. Now here's Nick Coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, We're about two hours away from the first

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<v Speaker 2>postseason game of the pat Kelcierra Louisville and Stanford cards

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<v Speaker 2>currently favored about ten and a half, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>surprised at all by that number. They did win by

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<v Speaker 2>twenty just five days ago. But I do think I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to give a full on, you know, extensive

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<v Speaker 2>breakdown of the Stanford team because I don't think that

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<v Speaker 2>would be interesting by any means. It's not really what

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<v Speaker 2>we do ever. And also I don't think Louisville is

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<v Speaker 2>going to have a huge problem tonight. They could lose, right,

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<v Speaker 2>we know that. But when you play a team in

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<v Speaker 2>consecutive games and you're the winner one, you clearly have

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<v Speaker 2>proven that you're you're better and you know that you

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<v Speaker 2>can beat them, you should be confident you didn't just win,

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<v Speaker 2>you beat them at twenty. But it'd be a lie

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<v Speaker 2>to say that that what I'm about to bring up

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<v Speaker 2>puts like Stanford at an advantage because it's not that.

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<v Speaker 2>But hear me out. You know they you know, louis

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville should come with the same the same game plan

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<v Speaker 2>they should mean, they should just try to do you know,

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<v Speaker 2>try to do the same thing they did the other night,

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<v Speaker 2>which again they were by twenty and I don't even

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<v Speaker 2>feel like they played that well. So you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>just bring the same thing and trust that you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to do it again no matter what

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<v Speaker 2>they do. However, Stanford can now kind of counter that

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<v Speaker 2>in a way and maybe throw something at Louisville Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>didn't expect or see, because for Stanford it's winn or

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<v Speaker 2>go home, right, They need to win the a SEC

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<v Speaker 2>tournament to make the Big Dance, and that seems really

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<v Speaker 2>really unlikely. So again, louis is not a disadvantage at all.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do think you know, you're you could if

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<v Speaker 2>you're smart, and Stanford would would at least, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>try to throw some wrinkles out there that maybe Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have been prepared for because it wasn't something you

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<v Speaker 2>saw in film prior, and it wasn't something you know

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<v Speaker 2>that you necessarily I mean, you don't want to recreate

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<v Speaker 2>who you are in this in this one instance, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Louisville. They're just better. I mean, that's what

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<v Speaker 2>it comes down to. And as I've said throughout the

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<v Speaker 2>entire season, certainly said it a few times today thus far.

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<v Speaker 2>What would have me really nervous in situations like this

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<v Speaker 2>would just be based off the fact that you just

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<v Speaker 2>know your team is. It's a coin toss, right, You

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<v Speaker 2>just don't know what you're gonna get. You know what

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<v Speaker 2>they can do, They've proven that. But man, they also

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<v Speaker 2>at times just don't come ready to play. They take

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<v Speaker 2>inferior opponents for granted and put them put themselves in

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<v Speaker 2>vulnerable spots. Yes, they nearly lost to Virginia Tech, same

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<v Speaker 2>thing with EKU long ago. They haven't played great, They're

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<v Speaker 2>not perfect, But this team, more than anything, has shown

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<v Speaker 2>they don't do what I just mentioned. They come ready

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<v Speaker 2>to play their reflection of their head coach. They are

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely going to respect who they're playing. I think they

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<v Speaker 2>have a real appreciation for everything they've been able to

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<v Speaker 2>experience this year. Therefore, they've got what I call comfortable fear.

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<v Speaker 2>They know that a loss here it wouldn't ruin your season.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it would give you a bad taste in

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<v Speaker 2>your mouth heading to selection Sunday, and it would really

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<v Speaker 2>eliminate the little potential that you have to better your resume.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you could still technically, you know, go beat Duke,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know that's easier Seve than done. So the

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<v Speaker 2>one thing I'm not worried about is these guys coming

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<v Speaker 2>ready to play and now maybe they miss shots early,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe they just you know, it's not their night. But

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<v Speaker 2>that's a different thing than you know, just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>coming out flat and very It's still very fresh in

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<v Speaker 2>my mind what they were able to do against Standford

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<v Speaker 2>just five days ago. So therefore I believe that they

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<v Speaker 2>should be able to take care of business tonight. And

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<v Speaker 2>I did mention this at the beginning of the show.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew that if anybody was going to have info

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<v Speaker 2>on this, it would be the one and only Kelly Dickey.

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<v Speaker 2>The official I mean, I think he is the official

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<v Speaker 2>UFL stats Google because he helps Paul Rodgers when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to the games as far as just knowing all

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<v Speaker 2>these crazy stats. But there can't be many people who

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<v Speaker 2>have a guy like Kelly Dicky in their fan base.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of their program, they can just give you any

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<v Speaker 2>of the random facts and trivia that you would ever want,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you're a diehard fan, I mean you've eat

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff up right because you're interested in your team.

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<v Speaker 3>For sure.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a guy who does it for Kentucky and he's

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<v Speaker 2>great at it, Corey Price, who I believe also helps

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<v Speaker 2>Tom Leech and that crew with the stats. So we

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<v Speaker 2>are lucky around here to have guys who I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how they have all this information and info. It's

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<v Speaker 2>stats and all that, but it's I think it's awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>So Louisville playing stand for the second consecutive game. I

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<v Speaker 2>said it would be Kelly Dickey who would know the

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<v Speaker 2>last time that happened or if it's ever happened before,

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<v Speaker 2>And sure enough it is not. Stanford's gonna be the

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<v Speaker 2>first opponent Loisvell has ever played back to back. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>I stand corrected. It's the first time it's happened since

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty three, according to Kelly Dicky. Again, I got

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<v Speaker 2>ahead myself. I didn't read his entire tweet, So that's

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<v Speaker 2>me just being an idiot, not him having it wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>So Stamford's the first level opponent as far as back

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<v Speaker 2>to back since they played Memphis State and beat him

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<v Speaker 2>sixty four to sixty two in nineteen eighty three, and

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<v Speaker 2>then turned around and played them in the conference tournament

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<v Speaker 2>same year eighty three, of course, and beat him again

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<v Speaker 2>seventy one to sixty eight. So very similar situation into

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<v Speaker 2>the regular season against the team that you'll end up

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<v Speaker 2>playing in the first round of your conference tournament. For

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<v Speaker 2>what it's worth, ken Palm the projected score here in

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<v Speaker 2>this one, which I haven't even checked, that tells you

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<v Speaker 2>how confident I am, because I usually check ken Palm

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<v Speaker 2>many times throughout the day, and I just in fact

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<v Speaker 2>I have today. But it was more so just because

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<v Speaker 2>I want to bet on games, not because I was

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<v Speaker 2>looking to see what ken Palm had for Louisville. But

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<v Speaker 2>for this game tonight, a seventy seven to sixty eight,

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<v Speaker 2>nine point victory for the Cards. On the Kentucky side,

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<v Speaker 2>they're taking on Oklahoma in a late game. Oklahoma, to

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<v Speaker 2>me is a win and more likely in than not.

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<v Speaker 2>That just that's just my guess. I don't know where

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<v Speaker 2>the committee actually how the committee actually used them, but

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<v Speaker 2>currently Kentucky right now favored by six and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna bet it because that'd be gross, but

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<v Speaker 2>I would hammer Kentucky minus six and a half. I know, Austin,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't. You don't bet on Kentucky either, at least

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you do. But Debdie just feel like

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<v Speaker 2>they're better than Oklahoma. And this is gonna be a rowdy,

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<v Speaker 2>drunk home game for Kentucky. It's really gonna be an

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<v Speaker 2>atmosphere that's probably better than I don't want to say,

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<v Speaker 2>better than any rough game because Rup. You know, RUP's

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<v Speaker 2>great for an atmosphere whenever it's a big game. And

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<v Speaker 2>they've got a huge fan base. So I'm not taking

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<v Speaker 2>a shot at their fans. But the SEC tournament crowded

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<v Speaker 2>in Nashville is a different type of fan than the

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<v Speaker 2>blue pullover. You know, Cardigan guy is in his you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in his seventies, who's you know, probably not even that

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<v Speaker 2>into it. He's just rich and a successful person in

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<v Speaker 2>le Yeah, So I mean it's just different. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not touching that one. But again, if I was forced to,

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<v Speaker 2>I would take Kentucky because I just think they tonight

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<v Speaker 2>six and a half. You're tempted, aren't you a little?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you?

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<v Speaker 3>And I mean their first game with Oklahoma was close,

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<v Speaker 3>it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but again this that was at Oklahoma. Kentucky didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have Butler. And this again, I'm maybe I'm over selling it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm looking Austin, I'm looking at Texas, A

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<v Speaker 2>and M in Texas on TV right now. There's fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>minutes left in the second half. Okay, there's more blue

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<v Speaker 2>there right now than any color in Kentucky doesn't play

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<v Speaker 2>until ten o'clock. Yeah, I mean, like that's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>a home game for them.

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<v Speaker 4>They're kind of hungry too. They haven't had the best

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<v Speaker 4>success in the ICC tournament.

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<v Speaker 2>Look if if Kentucky gets you know gets if the games,

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<v Speaker 2>you know boring, those some of the fans at rough

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<v Speaker 2>fall as sleep to take a nap, they get tucked

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<v Speaker 2>into bed, or they get bored if they're up big.

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<v Speaker 2>These got the fans that are there. Not to say

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<v Speaker 2>all of them are raging alcoholics, but like Broadway Nashville,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a party, and they got a lot of booze

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<v Speaker 2>to put away before they tip that thing off. It

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<v Speaker 2>probably probably close to ten o'clock. I think you're right,

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<v Speaker 2>So I imagine they were all tonight. But we shall see,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, So let's talk about ducally quickly. Here for

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<v Speaker 2>those who missed it. Duke did win today despite a

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<v Speaker 2>scare early from Georgia Tech. They were down twenty six

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<v Speaker 2>to twelve in the first half, and then Cooper Flag

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<v Speaker 2>went down with an ankle injury that that clearly is

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<v Speaker 2>an issue for them. Now how big of an issue,

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<v Speaker 2>only time will tell. But if you go watch the

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<v Speaker 2>injury itself, if I didn't see him back on the

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<v Speaker 2>court not playing, but he came back out still in

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<v Speaker 2>his uniform with his you know, warm ups on over

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<v Speaker 2>top of it, put his sneakers back on. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he wasn't gonna play, but he looked like he could

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<v Speaker 2>if they wanted to. And there clear there seemed to

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<v Speaker 2>be a real force from him to kind of show

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<v Speaker 2>people that he could walk without any issue. But then

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<v Speaker 2>when he would try to walk with that issue, like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, in the in the time out or back

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<v Speaker 2>to the locker room after the game, like you could

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<v Speaker 2>tell because all the cameras are on him, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's not I mean, he's got an ankle sprain.

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<v Speaker 2>They did an X ray. It came back negative, and

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<v Speaker 2>obviously that's a good sign, but it's just it's an

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<v Speaker 2>ankle sprain and it's anybody's guests as far as how

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<v Speaker 2>severe it is, and also anybody's guests as far as

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<v Speaker 2>you know, what kind of pain level can this guy

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<v Speaker 2>play through? You just don't know. So if I'm Duke,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no scenario he even suits up in the next

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<v Speaker 2>two games, because they stand to gain nothing by playing

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<v Speaker 2>him nothing, and he could maybe hurt it even worse. Clearly,

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<v Speaker 2>playing in these next two games would make it to

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<v Speaker 2>where he's not going to be quite as fresh when

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<v Speaker 2>you get to the game whoever you play in that

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen to one seed game. So I don't believe they

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<v Speaker 2>stand to gain anything about playing him, therefore they won't.

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<v Speaker 2>But you just never know. Maybe he wakes up and

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<v Speaker 2>he's really he's really built different, as they've told us

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<v Speaker 2>for years, or he can have that kind of an

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<v Speaker 2>ankle injury and be one hundred percent the next day.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you watch the video, it's a bad I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he rolled his ankle as bad as you can without

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<v Speaker 2>damaging his his you know, his ankles substantially, because again

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<v Speaker 2>the X ray showed no no, I mean it was negative,

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<v Speaker 2>so two bays to look at it. One that makes

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<v Speaker 2>the ACC Championship not as difficult because Duke without flag,

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<v Speaker 2>it's still not a still not a you know, Duke

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<v Speaker 2>without flag, they're not the same Duke, But still they're good.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't need Georgia Tech today to get beat

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<v Speaker 2>that they're still good without him, because they just they

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<v Speaker 2>have talent. They're good. Like I as much as we've

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<v Speaker 2>had some fun with Duke and then filling their diaper

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<v Speaker 2>about Pat Kelsey winning Coach of the Year and Chucky

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<v Speaker 2>winning Defensive Player of the Year, I still believe they're

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<v Speaker 2>really really good. Like I don't think Duke's a team

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<v Speaker 2>that will end up getting shell shocked in the tournament

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<v Speaker 2>because they played in a week acc. I think they're loaded.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're well coached, like you know, as much

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<v Speaker 2>as they're lame like, they're good. And I think John Shire,

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<v Speaker 2>as much as he's probably a cornball, I actually think

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<v Speaker 2>he's got a chance to be a really good coach

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<v Speaker 2>for Duke. So you know, even without Flag there, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna be a cakewalk. And I wish he plays

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<v Speaker 2>because look, Louisville, like Louisville beating like Duke team without

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<v Speaker 2>Cooper flag is still gonna be a valuable win for you,

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<v Speaker 2>and you'll take it. You can't control it, like you'll

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<v Speaker 2>take it however you can get it. But man, the

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<v Speaker 2>thought of playing them competitively and maybe knocking them off that,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we talked about this yesteryeary when we had

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<v Speaker 2>Kent Taylor on spart I'm sorry, Kin Spencer, I got

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<v Speaker 2>my Kent's mixed up. Apologies there. I know I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>the first to do that, and it probably won't be

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<v Speaker 2>the last time I do that, So sorry Kent's. But

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<v Speaker 2>just playing Duke fully healthy, without anybody injured, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe be careful what you wish for because it could

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<v Speaker 2>get ugly. I don't want that, and I think Duke

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<v Speaker 2>would probably beat Louisville and it wouldn't be that close.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, but you can get

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<v Speaker 2>some you know, this is a team that I think

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<v Speaker 2>is mature to where if they did get beat by

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<v Speaker 2>a healthy Duke team by you know, thirteen four team

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<v Speaker 2>points and it was never really a game you felt

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<v Speaker 2>like you were gonna win. This is a group that

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think will let that deter them in any way.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not gonna lose confidence They've always throughout the year

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<v Speaker 2>not been too high too low, regardless of what's happened.

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<v Speaker 2>And I do think going up against a team that

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<v Speaker 2>good can really help you, even if you lose before

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<v Speaker 2>you get to the tournament. And also just to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to play in the conference championship tournament would be

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<v Speaker 2>championship game would be awesome. So you know, I still

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<v Speaker 2>think Duke will be there regardless of what happens with

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<v Speaker 2>Cooper Flag because if they get Clemson tomorrow, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>if they get who would it be? If it goes Chalk,

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<v Speaker 2>let me pull it up here, wouldn't it be? Would

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<v Speaker 2>it be Carolina? Or would it be let's see here.

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<v Speaker 2>I just had the uh, where's the bracket? Because the

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<v Speaker 2>four or five game is Wake four? Is Carolina? Right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, that game is, uh do we

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<v Speaker 2>have a score? So right now? Certainly certainly that's not over?

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<v Speaker 2>It is it? No? It is car Yeah, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe maybe it ended a while ago. That's what makes

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<v Speaker 2>me realize how fast time goes when I'm on this

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<v Speaker 2>show for three hours, because when there's games on, I

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<v Speaker 2>look up and it's over, Like I don't know where

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<v Speaker 2>the time win but do Carolina one sixty eight to

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<v Speaker 2>fifty nine, which means they'll play the winner. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>are they gonna play They're gonna play Duke? Right? Is

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<v Speaker 2>that right? Do have it? Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Am I wrong? I think so? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that would have That has to be what it is,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't it. So even without Cooper Flag, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>that Carolina would win, but clearly they've got a better

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<v Speaker 2>chance without Flag. I don't know, man, I'm trying. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>kind of I mean, there's two ways to look at it. One,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever you gotta do to win the ACC Championship, hell yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Meaning if it's the easiest path, who cares, you could

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<v Speaker 2>cut down the nets in Charlotte, that'd be great. That's

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<v Speaker 2>one way to look at it. And I agree with

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<v Speaker 2>that because winning the AEC Championship would be awesome. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm also looking to try to still squeeze out any

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<v Speaker 2>little value you can get. Rather it be your resume

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<v Speaker 2>benefiting from this trip to Charlotte and also your team

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<v Speaker 2>just getting a good, nice test against good teams before

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<v Speaker 2>you start playing. Win or go home next week. But

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<v Speaker 2>let me throw this scenario at you, Austin, you're a

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<v Speaker 2>lofa fan like I am Browitz. Would you rather play

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<v Speaker 2>a Carolina team who upset Duke in the semis on Saturday?

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<v Speaker 2>Or play Duke who is clearly going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>real threat and a challenge, But they're the ones in

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<v Speaker 2>the championship game and they've got Flag healthy. Again, you

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<v Speaker 2>have a better chance of winning if it's Carolina, you've

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<v Speaker 2>already beat him. But if you beat him, it really,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, still a great result. You'd freaking win the

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<v Speaker 2>ACC Championship. But also like it's a team you've already beaten,

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<v Speaker 2>a team that you know would just barely be getting

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<v Speaker 2>in the tournament. Like again, I would, I would probably

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<v Speaker 2>have to take the ACC Championship just because it would

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<v Speaker 2>be the first time it's ever happened, and like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they'd be great. But if I'll, you know, win it

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<v Speaker 2>however you can. But I would love to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to potentially win it and know you got past the

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<v Speaker 2>best in the league. Right.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, yeah, you could probably put me down for that.

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<v Speaker 4>I may sound crazy, but I want all the smoke.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah with Duke, especially after this last week and how

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<v Speaker 4>and how they've been talking that mess. Right, But I

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<v Speaker 4>guess there's two schools of thought you could just think

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<v Speaker 4>of beating the overall best team in the nation with

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<v Speaker 4>the overall best player in the nation. But at that

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<v Speaker 4>scenario plays out and you have Carolina that's playing red

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<v Speaker 4>hot and they beat Duke and you got a rematch

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<v Speaker 4>with them, then there's something fun about playing probably one

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<v Speaker 4>of the hottest teams that's getting hot at the right

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<v Speaker 4>time and having that plus you already beat them too.

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<v Speaker 4>That might be a little bit scary because they're playing

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<v Speaker 4>way better than they did back in January. But I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know. That's just my two that's just my two cents,

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm with you me all the smoke would do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And look, I think you've got nothing to lose

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<v Speaker 2>if you lose to Duke, because again, I'm not worried

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<v Speaker 2>about this group. Like if you get to the ACC

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<v Speaker 2>Championship game and it's Duke and you fall short, I

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<v Speaker 2>think the win against Clemson probably confirms you're no way,

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<v Speaker 2>You're no worse than a seven. And I just I

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<v Speaker 2>think there'd be value in playing that good of a

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<v Speaker 2>team before you get to win or go home. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna act like I believe that they would

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<v Speaker 2>actually take down Duke if Cooper Flag's healthy and he's playing.

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<v Speaker 2>But I know this, they wouldn't be scared, they wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be wide eyed, they wouldn't be shell shocked. They may

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<v Speaker 2>just come out there and compete and lose because Duke's

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<v Speaker 2>that good. But you know, in a lot of in

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of different scenarios with different teams that aren't

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<v Speaker 2>this mature, I just feel like you would run risk

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<v Speaker 2>of like, yeah, you don't want to get your ass

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<v Speaker 2>kicked before you get to the big dance because it

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<v Speaker 2>could be demoralizing. And look, maybe maybe it would be

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<v Speaker 2>so bad that it would be demoralizing, But I just

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<v Speaker 2>I think this group is so rare for a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of reasons. When it's the it's a brand new team that,

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<v Speaker 2>like everybody playing, none of us knew anything about them

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<v Speaker 2>until they hit the portal. I mean, we knew who

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<v Speaker 2>Chucky Hepburn was, probably, but honestly that's probably about it.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, this is a rare situation for a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of reasons. But I I mean, give me the

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<v Speaker 2>best possible. You lose bad, it doesn't drop you off

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<v Speaker 2>the seed line from a seven, I don't believe. And

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<v Speaker 2>even if you lose, you can still gain some value

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<v Speaker 2>that won't show on your resume, but it could help

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<v Speaker 2>you next week. And honestly, if you lose a close

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<v Speaker 2>game to Duke, you probably jump up. In fact, if

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<v Speaker 2>you lose a close game to Duke and let's say

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<v Speaker 2>you got past Clemson, you lose a close game to

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<v Speaker 2>Duke and Cooper Flag does play and he's healthy, I

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<v Speaker 2>think you get more respect out of the committee. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>I think so too, because like Illinois, who's gonna get

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<v Speaker 2>in the tournament safely, gonna get a decent seed, make

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<v Speaker 2>it a good seed, depending on what they do in

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<v Speaker 2>the Big Ten tournament. They just play Duke on a

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<v Speaker 2>neutral court two weeks ago and lost by forty So,

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<v Speaker 2>like with so rare measurable games, if you get there

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<v Speaker 2>and it's a gloss but it's close. I think if

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<v Speaker 2>the committee doesn't know what to do with Louisville because

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<v Speaker 2>of the ACC, I believe if they competed well with Duke,

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<v Speaker 2>they would use their brain and realize, Okay, yeah, still

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<v Speaker 2>don't have a ton of big wins. But man, I

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<v Speaker 2>watched this team. I know they won twenty seven games

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<v Speaker 2>up to this point. I'm gonna give him a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of it out and give him a six seed or

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<v Speaker 2>a five seat like who knows if that would happen.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, I want duke and to sound young and

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<v Speaker 2>hip like the tribal chief. Give me the smoke. That's

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<v Speaker 2>all right, or is it? I want to smoke?

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<v Speaker 4>He's does Give me the smoke work too? I think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it work checks out? Yeah, Oh, give me the smoke.

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<v Speaker 4>I want it, all of it. All right, I'm him,

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<v Speaker 4>You're God, I'm here, God, You're still young, dude.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes me feel good. All right, quick break, We

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<v Speaker 2>got a little bit more time left with you to

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<v Speaker 2>stick around right here on Sports Talk seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Ninety Now back to coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's

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<v Speaker 2>So a couple of things here on the Louisville front.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got somewhat of an update on rain Smith. So

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<v Speaker 2>he's not wearing a boot. He's not you know, he's

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<v Speaker 2>not He's not wearing something that makes it look like

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<v Speaker 2>he's really dealing with an injury to where he's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe not going to play at all the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>the way. But he also is so that somebody got

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<v Speaker 2>a video here, see who I can figure out where

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<v Speaker 2>it's at but there's I guess the fans that made

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<v Speaker 2>the trip to Charlotte there was a card march or

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure if they call it that or not,

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<v Speaker 2>but fans seeing the team off from the team hotel

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<v Speaker 2>as they make their way to the arena for their

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<v Speaker 2>game tonight and as they're walking to the bus, Rain

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<v Speaker 2>does not have like a bag with shoes and stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>whereas all the other players do. So it might be

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<v Speaker 2>like a you know, an unintentional way for for us

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna play tonight. Could be something totally wrong, could

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<v Speaker 2>make could could have, could have nothing to do with it,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know that that if I had to guess,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm just guessing, I would say he's not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>play tonight, just based off that. Also, the Cards will

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<v Speaker 2>wear tonight, and I guess the rest of the postseason

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<v Speaker 2>some type of a badge or patch I should say,

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<v Speaker 2>not a badge and honor a junior Bridgeman, which of

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<v Speaker 2>course makes total sense. So you know, we talked about

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<v Speaker 2>this earlier in the show. We had somebody on the

417
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<v Speaker 2>text line, and maybe it was yesterday, I don't remember

418
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<v Speaker 2>when it was, but it came up at some point

419
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<v Speaker 2>from somebody on the text line about Rain Smith, do

420
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<v Speaker 2>you just go ahead and sit him anyways, because you

421
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<v Speaker 2>were able to prove that you don't need him to

422
00:20:04.359 --> 00:20:07.279
<v Speaker 2>beat Stanford, and with it being an ankle injury, the

423
00:20:07.319 --> 00:20:10.440
<v Speaker 2>longer he can rest up the better because he's still

424
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<v Speaker 2>gonna be playing with some pain. Hopefully it's more so

425
00:20:13.000 --> 00:20:15.720
<v Speaker 2>just discomfort. But the level and what the level in

426
00:20:15.759 --> 00:20:18.279
<v Speaker 2>which he's actually hurt, only he knows, and only I

427
00:20:18.319 --> 00:20:20.640
<v Speaker 2>guess you know, And in fact, I mean you would

428
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<v Speaker 2>assume that he's being treated around the clock and getting

429
00:20:23.359 --> 00:20:25.880
<v Speaker 2>all the treatment he needs by the medical staff, But

430
00:20:26.480 --> 00:20:29.960
<v Speaker 2>technically he really is the only one that knows. Now.

431
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<v Speaker 2>Pat Kelsey did say something after the game on Saturday,

432
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<v Speaker 2>I believe it was in his radio interview, might have

433
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<v Speaker 2>been his press conference. They did make me feel a

434
00:20:37.240 --> 00:20:39.720
<v Speaker 2>little better about Rain. But Rain apparently had ankle issue

435
00:20:39.799 --> 00:20:42.359
<v Speaker 2>ankle issues at some point during his time with Pat

436
00:20:42.440 --> 00:20:46.680
<v Speaker 2>Kelsey at Charleston and was able to play through it.

437
00:20:47.839 --> 00:20:52.519
<v Speaker 2>So what we'll never know for sure, at least, you know,

438
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<v Speaker 2>not Maybe we will know at some point, but it's

439
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<v Speaker 2>not information that we know unless Rainsmith just decided to

440
00:20:58.559 --> 00:21:01.519
<v Speaker 2>tell us everything every little bit, and he's not gonna

441
00:21:01.559 --> 00:21:05.039
<v Speaker 2>do that now and maybe never will. But him not

442
00:21:05.160 --> 00:21:07.720
<v Speaker 2>playing tonight if he doesn't, and then of course him

443
00:21:07.720 --> 00:21:14.079
<v Speaker 2>not playing on Saturday against Stanford. I mean, only he

444
00:21:14.119 --> 00:21:17.079
<v Speaker 2>knows if it's because he truly can't go, or if

445
00:21:17.119 --> 00:21:22.359
<v Speaker 2>it's because he just would rather rest and realize his

446
00:21:22.400 --> 00:21:25.160
<v Speaker 2>big picture, me getting healthy is better for me and

447
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<v Speaker 2>for my team because we win or we go home

448
00:21:27.599 --> 00:21:29.200
<v Speaker 2>next week, and if I can get some more rest,

449
00:21:29.599 --> 00:21:36.799
<v Speaker 2>then that's best case scenario. So I kind of feel

450
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<v Speaker 2>like I'm I don't I don't think I'm taking rain

451
00:21:39.960 --> 00:21:42.960
<v Speaker 2>Smith for granted because I'm well aware of how specially is.

452
00:21:43.000 --> 00:21:45.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm well aware of what he can do to flip

453
00:21:45.599 --> 00:21:48.640
<v Speaker 2>a game in in no time. He can flip a

454
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<v Speaker 2>game the other direction with three straight threes, that would

455
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<v Speaker 2>really be like any other night for him. I mean,

456
00:21:53.200 --> 00:21:56.200
<v Speaker 2>that's just what he does. So I don't think I'm

457
00:21:56.200 --> 00:21:57.960
<v Speaker 2>taking him for granted. I'm also somebody who thinks he's

458
00:21:58.319 --> 00:22:00.680
<v Speaker 2>more than just a shooter. Obviously, his p duction mostly

459
00:22:00.680 --> 00:22:04.200
<v Speaker 2>comes from knocking down threes, but when he's on the floor,

460
00:22:04.759 --> 00:22:07.519
<v Speaker 2>other teams have to always account for him, and he

461
00:22:07.599 --> 00:22:10.240
<v Speaker 2>knows that, and he's he's savvy about that. He also

462
00:22:10.359 --> 00:22:12.480
<v Speaker 2>makes them pay when they don't account for him. He

463
00:22:12.519 --> 00:22:15.680
<v Speaker 2>also understands spacing as good as anybody on the floor

464
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<v Speaker 2>on the team, including Chucky.

465
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<v Speaker 3>So like.

466
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<v Speaker 2>The fact that I'm not as fearful about his status

467
00:22:25.079 --> 00:22:27.880
<v Speaker 2>down the line meeting next week even makes me kind

468
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<v Speaker 2>of feel like I'm not realizing how great he is.

469
00:22:29.680 --> 00:22:31.440
<v Speaker 2>But then again, like you know, worrying about it isn't

470
00:22:31.440 --> 00:22:33.319
<v Speaker 2>going to do anything, But I guess as I internally,

471
00:22:33.400 --> 00:22:37.039
<v Speaker 2>I guess deal with myself here, like I worry about everything.

472
00:22:37.359 --> 00:22:38.799
<v Speaker 2>So the fact I'm not worried makes me feel like

473
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<v Speaker 2>I'm taking rain for granted, although I don't.

474
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<v Speaker 4>Think I am, and selfishly just being fans and loving

475
00:22:42.920 --> 00:22:45.799
<v Speaker 4>this team. We only have a limited time with brain left,

476
00:22:45.880 --> 00:22:47.519
<v Speaker 4>so like we want to get the most out of him,

477
00:22:47.559 --> 00:22:49.079
<v Speaker 4>Like I mean, yeah, I go out there and ball,

478
00:22:49.119 --> 00:22:51.119
<v Speaker 4>but we we just want to see in a cardinal jersey,

479
00:22:51.240 --> 00:22:53.599
<v Speaker 4>just keep balling out for as long as we can,

480
00:22:53.680 --> 00:22:55.680
<v Speaker 4>because I mean, we would love to see him in

481
00:22:55.680 --> 00:22:57.720
<v Speaker 4>the tournament. We would hate to look back and say,

482
00:22:58.000 --> 00:23:00.319
<v Speaker 4>you know, we didn't have him, just because this is

483
00:23:00.319 --> 00:23:01.359
<v Speaker 4>such a special.

484
00:23:01.000 --> 00:23:03.160
<v Speaker 2>Group and we've already dealt with that and got over

485
00:23:03.200 --> 00:23:06.359
<v Speaker 2>it and kind of regrouped. I forget that Cason Pryor

486
00:23:06.400 --> 00:23:08.440
<v Speaker 2>and Cora and Johnson are even on the team until

487
00:23:08.440 --> 00:23:10.880
<v Speaker 2>I see him cheering on their teammates on the sideline. So,

488
00:23:11.440 --> 00:23:15.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, and there really has been no indication that

489
00:23:15.880 --> 00:23:19.079
<v Speaker 2>it's severe with Rain, but again he hasn't played, and

490
00:23:20.039 --> 00:23:22.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, that just leaves it open for you to decide,

491
00:23:22.599 --> 00:23:25.079
<v Speaker 2>is it. Is it something I was gonna say, Is

492
00:23:25.079 --> 00:23:26.480
<v Speaker 2>this it's something we should be worried about? But again,

493
00:23:26.519 --> 00:23:28.799
<v Speaker 2>worrying as fans will do nothing but just make us

494
00:23:28.880 --> 00:23:31.839
<v Speaker 2>more anxious and and and it'll it'll be you know't

495
00:23:31.839 --> 00:23:35.279
<v Speaker 2>it won't be good for us to worry. But as

496
00:23:35.319 --> 00:23:39.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm overthinking it here, Rain's got to know that at

497
00:23:39.640 --> 00:23:43.519
<v Speaker 2>at at Matt, you know, the minimum, he's got two

498
00:23:43.519 --> 00:23:47.680
<v Speaker 2>games left in his college career, right, meaning whatever happens tonight,

499
00:23:48.240 --> 00:23:50.640
<v Speaker 2>they could lose whoever they're playing the tournament. So like

500
00:23:51.839 --> 00:23:54.960
<v Speaker 2>he he hopefully has more than just two. But that's

501
00:23:54.960 --> 00:23:57.079
<v Speaker 2>really all that's guaranteed at this point is two more

502
00:23:57.079 --> 00:24:02.759
<v Speaker 2>games left in his college career. So to know that

503
00:24:03.279 --> 00:24:07.240
<v Speaker 2>and yet still ere on the side of I'm not

504
00:24:07.279 --> 00:24:10.799
<v Speaker 2>going to play. If in fact that's what happens tonight,

505
00:24:11.440 --> 00:24:15.039
<v Speaker 2>that would make me think he's really hurt. Now, clearly

506
00:24:15.079 --> 00:24:17.000
<v Speaker 2>he's hurt. I'm not acting like he's faking it, But

507
00:24:17.000 --> 00:24:20.759
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I'm overthinking it. And I did the

508
00:24:20.759 --> 00:24:22.799
<v Speaker 2>same thing when Chucky got hurt, like just trying to

509
00:24:22.960 --> 00:24:25.559
<v Speaker 2>just figure out what makes the most sense. Whenever gonna

510
00:24:25.559 --> 00:24:28.359
<v Speaker 2>get answers. We're not entitled answers, but you just want

511
00:24:28.359 --> 00:24:32.519
<v Speaker 2>to know. And when he didn't come back on Wednesday,

512
00:24:32.559 --> 00:24:35.440
<v Speaker 2>when they knocked off cal and that's whenever you know

513
00:24:35.640 --> 00:24:38.319
<v Speaker 2>he started dealing with the ankle, and the ankle issue

514
00:24:38.920 --> 00:24:43.400
<v Speaker 2>when he told coach Kelsey, I can't go, kind of

515
00:24:43.400 --> 00:24:46.519
<v Speaker 2>worried me, you know, because with Chucky, I don't. With Chucky,

516
00:24:46.640 --> 00:24:48.839
<v Speaker 2>it's in again, it's still something you would worry about.

517
00:24:48.880 --> 00:24:51.920
<v Speaker 2>Right with Chucky, they were told he couldn't play, like

518
00:24:51.960 --> 00:24:54.279
<v Speaker 2>Pat Kelsey was told by the medical staff the trainers

519
00:24:54.480 --> 00:24:56.759
<v Speaker 2>he can't go. Which if they're saying he can't go,

520
00:24:56.799 --> 00:24:58.680
<v Speaker 2>then he must be really hurt. So again, here I

521
00:24:58.720 --> 00:25:01.480
<v Speaker 2>am just going in circles worrying about rain Smith's ankle,

522
00:25:01.519 --> 00:25:04.640
<v Speaker 2>which worrying isn't going to help the ankle so let's

523
00:25:04.720 --> 00:25:06.680
<v Speaker 2>just believe in the power of positivity and hope that

524
00:25:06.720 --> 00:25:08.680
<v Speaker 2>who knows, maybe he plays on it. Here I am

525
00:25:09.000 --> 00:25:10.839
<v Speaker 2>doing the first five minutes or so of his segment

526
00:25:11.000 --> 00:25:13.000
<v Speaker 2>acting as if he's not playing, And all I'm basing

527
00:25:13.079 --> 00:25:14.400
<v Speaker 2>that off of is the fact that he didn't bring

528
00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:15.759
<v Speaker 2>a bag with him to get on the bus.

529
00:25:15.880 --> 00:25:17.880
<v Speaker 3>It would be much I do about nothing.

530
00:25:17.680 --> 00:25:20.359
<v Speaker 2>Like maybe the ausse travels light, you know, maybe he

531
00:25:20.440 --> 00:25:23.000
<v Speaker 2>just leaves out, Maybe he leaves his shoes on the bus.

532
00:25:23.119 --> 00:25:26.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Maybe he's wearing his basketball shoes and

533
00:25:26.559 --> 00:25:29.559
<v Speaker 2>his jersey underneath his you know, his street clothes. I

534
00:25:29.559 --> 00:25:31.000
<v Speaker 2>don't know, But I don't want to put too much

535
00:25:31.000 --> 00:25:34.519
<v Speaker 2>pressure on that ankle exactly right, real quick. I don't

536
00:25:34.519 --> 00:25:36.640
<v Speaker 2>get into this a whole lot just because I don't.

537
00:25:36.720 --> 00:25:40.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't, you know, to me, this doesn't change anything

538
00:25:40.200 --> 00:25:41.839
<v Speaker 2>good or bad about how I feel about Louisville. But

539
00:25:42.279 --> 00:25:44.559
<v Speaker 2>enough people have shared this screenshot on the text lines,

540
00:25:44.559 --> 00:25:47.039
<v Speaker 2>so I'll share with you. So BETEMGM put this out.

541
00:25:47.039 --> 00:25:50.279
<v Speaker 2>Every national champion since two thousand and two has been

542
00:25:50.319 --> 00:25:54.200
<v Speaker 2>top forty in offense and top twenty five in defense.

543
00:25:54.319 --> 00:25:59.759
<v Speaker 2>Per Kin Pom and the teams that fit the criteria

544
00:25:59.839 --> 00:26:04.079
<v Speaker 2>the sheer Louisve's one of them, and it's really good

545
00:26:04.079 --> 00:26:07.079
<v Speaker 2>company too, by the way, I mean, I think all

546
00:26:07.160 --> 00:26:14.680
<v Speaker 2>these teams are really really good Duke, Auburn, Houston, Florida, Tennessee,

547
00:26:16.000 --> 00:26:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Michigan State. And here's where it gets to where there's

548
00:26:18.960 --> 00:26:20.519
<v Speaker 2>teams that are kind of I think, you know, good,

549
00:26:20.519 --> 00:26:22.279
<v Speaker 2>like Maryland I think is really good, but I wouldn't

550
00:26:22.279 --> 00:26:24.759
<v Speaker 2>say they're like title contingents. But Maryland's in there. In fact,

551
00:26:24.759 --> 00:26:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Maryland to me is like a I wouldn't call them

552
00:26:27.000 --> 00:26:29.279
<v Speaker 2>like a sleeper because I could see them losing early

553
00:26:29.319 --> 00:26:32.240
<v Speaker 2>if you know, things don't go their way. They're really thin,

554
00:26:32.599 --> 00:26:34.200
<v Speaker 2>but when they play well, I feel like they're a

555
00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:37.039
<v Speaker 2>final fourteen, and they've at times played really well. So

556
00:26:37.200 --> 00:26:39.640
<v Speaker 2>Kevin Williard's done a good job. But outside of Maryland,

557
00:26:39.799 --> 00:26:44.039
<v Speaker 2>the others are Marquette, Clemson, and then Louisville. So of those,

558
00:26:44.680 --> 00:26:47.880
<v Speaker 2>looks like there's twelve teams that fit that criteria. In

559
00:26:47.880 --> 00:26:51.000
<v Speaker 2>Louis's one of them. So again, make of that what

560
00:26:51.079 --> 00:26:53.960
<v Speaker 2>you will. All right, let's see do we have any

561
00:26:53.960 --> 00:26:57.039
<v Speaker 2>other updates here as far as games going on for

562
00:26:57.079 --> 00:26:58.559
<v Speaker 2>those just now joining us. We have had a lot

563
00:26:58.559 --> 00:27:01.759
<v Speaker 2>of games already conclude so far here as the conference

564
00:27:01.799 --> 00:27:06.519
<v Speaker 2>tournaments are underway, you've got let's see, Carolina did get

565
00:27:06.519 --> 00:27:09.319
<v Speaker 2>past Wake for US, so they'll play They'll play Duke tomorrow.

566
00:27:09.680 --> 00:27:12.440
<v Speaker 2>Sixty eight to fifty nine. Was to score there. Carolina. Again,

567
00:27:12.440 --> 00:27:15.359
<v Speaker 2>I believe that they've done enough to where they should

568
00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:17.640
<v Speaker 2>be in, but not by much. Don't know if the

569
00:27:17.680 --> 00:27:20.240
<v Speaker 2>committee agrees with that, but clearly I think even a

570
00:27:20.279 --> 00:27:24.319
<v Speaker 2>competitive showing with Duke tomorrow without Cooper flag would bode

571
00:27:24.319 --> 00:27:27.079
<v Speaker 2>well for Carolina. And I just again, I know Carolina

572
00:27:27.119 --> 00:27:30.640
<v Speaker 2>doesn't have many wins worth speaking of, and to be fair,

573
00:27:31.000 --> 00:27:33.759
<v Speaker 2>they've had opportunities because they played such a challenging non

574
00:27:33.799 --> 00:27:37.519
<v Speaker 2>conference schedule. But when you've got when you put sixty

575
00:27:37.559 --> 00:27:41.400
<v Speaker 2>eight teams in and other teams fighting just to make

576
00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:46.839
<v Speaker 2>it are sitting there with you know, nineteen and sixteen records,

577
00:27:47.960 --> 00:27:50.519
<v Speaker 2>eight games below five hundred in their own conference, like

578
00:27:50.559 --> 00:27:52.279
<v Speaker 2>I just don't know. I mean again, to me, call

579
00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:55.759
<v Speaker 2>me old fashioned. Winning and losing, regardless of who it's again,

580
00:27:55.839 --> 00:28:00.599
<v Speaker 2>should still factor in to some extent. Let's see, Arkansas

581
00:28:01.200 --> 00:28:02.880
<v Speaker 2>lost on a buzzer beater. I knew it came down

582
00:28:02.920 --> 00:28:05.759
<v Speaker 2>to the wire, but Padulla hit a three at the

583
00:28:05.759 --> 00:28:09.559
<v Speaker 2>buzzer to take out Arkansas, so Cal another short stay

584
00:28:09.559 --> 00:28:13.200
<v Speaker 2>for him at the At the SEC Tournament, Xavier and

585
00:28:13.200 --> 00:28:16.480
<v Speaker 2>Marquette played earlier, and Marquette, who fell apart a little

586
00:28:16.480 --> 00:28:19.480
<v Speaker 2>bit later in the season, they were really rolling early

587
00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:22.319
<v Speaker 2>and now they're you know, I wouldn't say they're free falling,

588
00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:24.680
<v Speaker 2>but they're looking like probably like an eight seed. But

589
00:28:24.720 --> 00:28:27.759
<v Speaker 2>they beat Xavier, and that's important for bubble teams because

590
00:28:27.799 --> 00:28:30.200
<v Speaker 2>Xavier was a team that kind of felt like a

591
00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:32.000
<v Speaker 2>win and they get in. They didn't win. They lost

592
00:28:32.039 --> 00:28:34.480
<v Speaker 2>by two, eighty nine to eighty seven, so they're going

593
00:28:34.559 --> 00:28:38.640
<v Speaker 2>to be sitting nervous on selection Sunday. I would imagine

594
00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:41.720
<v Speaker 2>same thing for Indiana. Indiana loses seventy two to fifty nine,

595
00:28:42.359 --> 00:28:46.559
<v Speaker 2>and same thing. They're going to be sweating. But everybody

596
00:28:46.599 --> 00:28:48.960
<v Speaker 2>seems to think that they're in and really not even

597
00:28:48.960 --> 00:28:51.720
<v Speaker 2>in like that last four and if so, it's just

598
00:28:51.759 --> 00:28:53.240
<v Speaker 2>because they got to put sixty eight and I don't

599
00:28:53.240 --> 00:28:56.480
<v Speaker 2>think in Indiana's resume is in any way impressive enough

600
00:28:56.519 --> 00:28:59.160
<v Speaker 2>to say they safely belong. But again, we're talking about

601
00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:01.640
<v Speaker 2>sixty eight teams having to get in and I think

602
00:29:01.720 --> 00:29:06.200
<v Speaker 2>like the last like the last ten at large teams

603
00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:11.480
<v Speaker 2>are all gonna be kind of the same, and I

604
00:29:11.480 --> 00:29:15.559
<v Speaker 2>feel like in other years you wouldn't think they'd belong.

605
00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:21.559
<v Speaker 2>But again, the bubbles very weak this year. All right, Wisconsin,

606
00:29:21.640 --> 00:29:24.799
<v Speaker 2>they held off Northwestern. So Northwestern, I guess they could

607
00:29:24.839 --> 00:29:26.920
<v Speaker 2>have potentially been a bit stealer. That's not gonna happen now.

608
00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:30.920
<v Speaker 2>BYU took out Iowa State. That was an upset. Ricky

609
00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:33.559
<v Speaker 2>p and Saint John's knocked off Butler seventy eight to

610
00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:38.000
<v Speaker 2>fifty seven. Houston got past Colorado. We mentioned Duke and

611
00:29:38.039 --> 00:29:40.079
<v Speaker 2>Georgia Tech. That was a seventy eight to seventy victory

612
00:29:40.119 --> 00:29:43.799
<v Speaker 2>for the Blue Devils, and then some other games coming

613
00:29:43.880 --> 00:29:46.559
<v Speaker 2>up again, I mean a loaded I mean this Austin

614
00:29:46.599 --> 00:29:48.000
<v Speaker 2>and I were talking about it during the break. This

615
00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:51.759
<v Speaker 2>is just this is awesome like today and tomorrow and

616
00:29:51.799 --> 00:29:54.200
<v Speaker 2>then you know, really moving forward. This is when college

617
00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:58.480
<v Speaker 2>basketball is erotic. I mean, even when we have those

618
00:29:58.559 --> 00:30:02.640
<v Speaker 2>days off, because you know, you've got the selection or

619
00:30:02.680 --> 00:30:05.079
<v Speaker 2>selection Sunday and then travel and all that, we don't

620
00:30:05.079 --> 00:30:06.759
<v Speaker 2>get real games. I guess we get we get the

621
00:30:06.759 --> 00:30:09.319
<v Speaker 2>play in. It's but nonetheless, like Thursday and Friday year great,

622
00:30:09.319 --> 00:30:10.839
<v Speaker 2>but like even the lead up to that is awesome

623
00:30:10.880 --> 00:30:13.279
<v Speaker 2>because you just get your bracket. You're you know, I mean,

624
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<v Speaker 2>I can, I can. I honestly I can patiently wait

625
00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:24.039
<v Speaker 2>from Sunday to Thursday because I know, like those two

626
00:30:24.119 --> 00:30:25.599
<v Speaker 2>days are going to go by so quick, and then

627
00:30:25.599 --> 00:30:28.720
<v Speaker 2>we got to wait another year. And I will say this,

628
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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad somebody pointed this out on the text line earlier,

629
00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:32.039
<v Speaker 2>because I was talking about how I was able to

630
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<v Speaker 2>just find a way to really enjoy college hoops without

631
00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:37.240
<v Speaker 2>having a team with any relevance in March, because we've

632
00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:39.759
<v Speaker 2>been irrelevant for a long time. In fact, louisvill hasn't

633
00:30:39.759 --> 00:30:42.039
<v Speaker 2>made the second weekend in ten years. It's only made

634
00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:44.880
<v Speaker 2>the tournament twice in ten years, which is crazy to

635
00:30:44.920 --> 00:30:46.599
<v Speaker 2>think about, but it's just the reality of it. So

636
00:30:46.680 --> 00:30:50.960
<v Speaker 2>with all that said, I kind of forgot about the

637
00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:54.000
<v Speaker 2>awful feeling of losing in the first round. Yeah, I mean,

638
00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:55.440
<v Speaker 2>even if you're like an eight or nine seed, when

639
00:30:55.440 --> 00:30:58.279
<v Speaker 2>it's over, when it's over, no matter what, it sucks.

640
00:30:58.519 --> 00:31:00.359
<v Speaker 2>But to get to get to put the ns and

641
00:31:00.440 --> 00:31:03.720
<v Speaker 2>shoes on and have to exit the dance floor early

642
00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:07.079
<v Speaker 2>when other people are out there, maybe just getting a

643
00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:09.880
<v Speaker 2>few drinks in and they're extending their party on too

644
00:31:10.799 --> 00:31:12.519
<v Speaker 2>late into the evening and then maybe moving on to

645
00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:14.240
<v Speaker 2>the second weekend. Like that's a tough feeling with.

646
00:31:14.279 --> 00:31:15.440
<v Speaker 3>The electric slide.

647
00:31:16.039 --> 00:31:18.519
<v Speaker 2>So look with with with this feeling of being back

648
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:22.279
<v Speaker 2>to life, man, it's great, but we now are alive

649
00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:25.039
<v Speaker 2>and we were gonna we're gonna experience some potential pain,

650
00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:27.799
<v Speaker 2>maybe even tonight. I hope not. I don't think so tonight,

651
00:31:27.839 --> 00:31:30.000
<v Speaker 2>but like next week if they lose in the in

652
00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:33.359
<v Speaker 2>the first round, I still don't believe there's a scenario

653
00:31:33.359 --> 00:31:34.920
<v Speaker 2>where I won't love this team and feel like this

654
00:31:35.039 --> 00:31:37.559
<v Speaker 2>was such an awesome year despite knowing what March is

655
00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:39.759
<v Speaker 2>and it really is where it all matters. But this

656
00:31:39.880 --> 00:31:42.400
<v Speaker 2>is an unusual circumstance and I'm gonna embrace this year

657
00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:44.720
<v Speaker 2>for everything that it was. But I know that in

658
00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:47.279
<v Speaker 2>the moment, if you know, I probably won't even have

659
00:31:47.400 --> 00:31:50.559
<v Speaker 2>like the disappointment and anger that I usually have. I'm

660
00:31:50.559 --> 00:31:51.559
<v Speaker 2>just gonna be sad.

661
00:31:51.559 --> 00:31:53.400
<v Speaker 3>You know, because yeah, I'm right there with you.

662
00:31:53.480 --> 00:31:56.480
<v Speaker 2>We love these guys, man, and we only get one

663
00:31:56.519 --> 00:31:59.119
<v Speaker 2>year of them released, the majority of them, which again,

664
00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:01.279
<v Speaker 2>is it kind of sad to be honest with you.

665
00:32:01.599 --> 00:32:03.200
<v Speaker 2>All Right, quick Break will come back on the other

666
00:32:03.279 --> 00:32:05.839
<v Speaker 2>side and wrap this thing up, get you set for

667
00:32:05.920 --> 00:32:10.640
<v Speaker 2>tonight's matchups, and a quick little update on what's being

668
00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:12.799
<v Speaker 2>said about these jobs that are opened. So Will Wade

669
00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:15.240
<v Speaker 2>apparently was not going to be in the mix at

670
00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:17.240
<v Speaker 2>NC State, but those that have a lot of money

671
00:32:17.599 --> 00:32:21.000
<v Speaker 2>that you know, have influence on what NC State does,

672
00:32:21.400 --> 00:32:24.839
<v Speaker 2>they want Will Wade in Raleigh, And I mean I

673
00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:26.640
<v Speaker 2>would love that just because it would make the league better.

674
00:32:27.039 --> 00:32:30.680
<v Speaker 2>Anybody that doesn't hire him this time around, I feel

675
00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:33.839
<v Speaker 2>like we'll absolutely regret it. Somebody's gonna get him. Right,

676
00:32:33.880 --> 00:32:36.759
<v Speaker 2>he's at McNee State, right, quick Break, keep a locker

677
00:32:36.839 --> 00:32:38.240
<v Speaker 2>here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

678
00:32:38.039 --> 00:32:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Now back to coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on

679
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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day.

680
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<v Speaker 2>All Right, we've got a little bit of time left here.

681
00:32:46.440 --> 00:32:49.839
<v Speaker 2>I'll use it wisely. So the two acc hires that

682
00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:52.319
<v Speaker 2>have already been made and they're now official. You've got

683
00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:56.119
<v Speaker 2>Florida State going with a guy that I'm sure none

684
00:32:56.160 --> 00:32:58.599
<v Speaker 2>of you have ever heard of. I hadn't heard of him.

685
00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:03.599
<v Speaker 2>He's a former or Florida State player who has spent

686
00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:07.839
<v Speaker 2>every bit of his basketball coaching career as an assistant,

687
00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:11.640
<v Speaker 2>but not in the college level. So Luke Loucks that's

688
00:33:11.640 --> 00:33:14.160
<v Speaker 2>who they hired. And he's thirty four years old. They

689
00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:17.200
<v Speaker 2>go from a guy old enough to be his grandfather

690
00:33:18.279 --> 00:33:22.680
<v Speaker 2>to now a guy who's you know, much younger, And

691
00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:25.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean maybe he's great. You never know, I mean

692
00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:30.359
<v Speaker 2>any higher. You have to just understand that regardless of

693
00:33:30.359 --> 00:33:31.839
<v Speaker 2>how high you are on it or how low you

694
00:33:31.880 --> 00:33:34.359
<v Speaker 2>are on it, you just don't know. But I just

695
00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:36.119
<v Speaker 2>to me, this is the kind of cod This is

696
00:33:36.160 --> 00:33:38.880
<v Speaker 2>the route that just doesn't make as much sense anymore

697
00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:42.839
<v Speaker 2>because the risk here is just not worth the reward.

698
00:33:43.759 --> 00:33:46.319
<v Speaker 2>But you know, I will admit I've never been in

699
00:33:46.319 --> 00:33:48.119
<v Speaker 2>this position when it comes to making these decisions in

700
00:33:48.160 --> 00:33:49.880
<v Speaker 2>these highers. So maybe there's a lot more. In fact,

701
00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:51.519
<v Speaker 2>I know there's a lot more to it than I realize.

702
00:33:51.519 --> 00:33:53.440
<v Speaker 2>But I just don't know why you wouldn't go get

703
00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:55.279
<v Speaker 2>a guy who's proven that he can success, he can

704
00:33:55.319 --> 00:33:58.039
<v Speaker 2>successfully be ahead basketball coach at the college level, even

705
00:33:58.039 --> 00:34:01.480
<v Speaker 2>if it's not at the ACC like an unproven coach,

706
00:34:01.839 --> 00:34:03.960
<v Speaker 2>a guy doing not even unproven, a guy never has

707
00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:06.119
<v Speaker 2>who has never done it before. To me, just seems

708
00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:08.320
<v Speaker 2>like the last move you'd make this day and age

709
00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:12.880
<v Speaker 2>in college basketball. So Miami went a little bit of

710
00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:15.519
<v Speaker 2>a different route, but also kind of the same. The

711
00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:19.199
<v Speaker 2>similarity is that never been a head coach. Now, Jay

712
00:34:19.239 --> 00:34:21.559
<v Speaker 2>Lucas has been an assistant coach for quite some time,

713
00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:24.800
<v Speaker 2>and you know, he's to me, the young, relatable guy

714
00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:28.280
<v Speaker 2>that can certainly recruit and clearly he's connected to the game,

715
00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:31.559
<v Speaker 2>has coaching in his blood, so he's got all that

716
00:34:31.599 --> 00:34:34.000
<v Speaker 2>going for him. So it may be great, but he's

717
00:34:34.039 --> 00:34:37.840
<v Speaker 2>thirty six and he's never ever been responsible for a program.

718
00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:40.760
<v Speaker 2>He's never been a head coach. And I know we

719
00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:42.679
<v Speaker 2>have a little PTSD in regards to that because we

720
00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:44.679
<v Speaker 2>could tell from the jump we hired a guy who's

721
00:34:44.719 --> 00:34:47.400
<v Speaker 2>never had to actually be the head coach, be the boss,

722
00:34:47.880 --> 00:34:50.920
<v Speaker 2>and it was a disaster. So I'm sure Jie Lucas

723
00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:53.559
<v Speaker 2>has some leadership capabilities that you know, Kenny Paine didn't have.

724
00:34:53.840 --> 00:34:55.960
<v Speaker 2>But I just think again it comes down to like,

725
00:34:56.639 --> 00:34:58.719
<v Speaker 2>why in the hell did Miami not higher will weight

726
00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:00.800
<v Speaker 2>That would have been the perfect fit. I mean, he

727
00:35:00.840 --> 00:35:03.960
<v Speaker 2>would have he would embraced everything that is the you

728
00:35:03.960 --> 00:35:06.400
<v Speaker 2>you know he can win. He would take the money

729
00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:10.239
<v Speaker 2>that you have available, and you know, make some strong

730
00:35:10.280 --> 00:35:13.320
<v Speaker 2>ass offers like he's always done. And I just feel

731
00:35:13.360 --> 00:35:15.239
<v Speaker 2>like that was such an obvious fit that would have

732
00:35:15.239 --> 00:35:17.800
<v Speaker 2>made by the way those worried about like the pr

733
00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:21.760
<v Speaker 2>about Will Wade one, I mean, lighting up Karen, I mean,

734
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:25.360
<v Speaker 2>it's now not only legal, it's now what you have

735
00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:31.199
<v Speaker 2>to do go pay players, But also like choosing to

736
00:35:32.400 --> 00:35:35.239
<v Speaker 2>worry about what idiots on the internet will say about

737
00:35:35.239 --> 00:35:37.199
<v Speaker 2>you hiring a coach who previously got in trouble with

738
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:39.920
<v Speaker 2>the NCAA and there was evidence of it. That just

739
00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:41.920
<v Speaker 2>proves you don't want to win. And by the way,

740
00:35:42.119 --> 00:35:44.039
<v Speaker 2>like Miami, I feel like they would embrace a cheater.

741
00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:45.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it wouldn't be cheating now because again you

742
00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:47.360
<v Speaker 2>can do like Miami and Will Wade, we're a match

743
00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:49.159
<v Speaker 2>made in heaven. Why it didn't happen, I don't know.

744
00:35:50.119 --> 00:35:54.280
<v Speaker 2>Now it sounds like Will Wade could potentially still be

745
00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:56.880
<v Speaker 2>in the ACC but at NC State.

746
00:35:57.320 --> 00:35:59.000
<v Speaker 3>And I mean.

747
00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:02.800
<v Speaker 2>If they don't hire him and they've like got it

748
00:36:03.000 --> 00:36:05.079
<v Speaker 2>in the works and they decide to pass on him

749
00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:08.519
<v Speaker 2>but go elsewhere, I mean, I think it's a mistake.

750
00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:13.480
<v Speaker 2>I really do. And look Chris Beard, I'd say the

751
00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:16.079
<v Speaker 2>same thing. Look, if you feel like the PR hits

752
00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:19.199
<v Speaker 2>been bad enough, and if Chris Beard was as bad

753
00:36:19.239 --> 00:36:21.480
<v Speaker 2>as what was, you know what was alleged to have

754
00:36:21.480 --> 00:36:24.760
<v Speaker 2>happened with him and his wife, I feel like, you know,

755
00:36:24.920 --> 00:36:26.599
<v Speaker 2>and again I can't I'm not condoning any of that,

756
00:36:27.159 --> 00:36:29.199
<v Speaker 2>but the PR hit was already taken by Ole Miss

757
00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:34.000
<v Speaker 2>and at this point it's an isolated thing. So choosing

758
00:36:34.039 --> 00:36:36.559
<v Speaker 2>to not go get him because of that, I still

759
00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:39.840
<v Speaker 2>think at times, you know, that would be foolish in

760
00:36:39.880 --> 00:36:44.159
<v Speaker 2>my opinion, but at least like there's legitimate, like like

761
00:36:44.199 --> 00:36:48.760
<v Speaker 2>that's a real real thing. Will Wade he didn't even

762
00:36:48.760 --> 00:36:51.039
<v Speaker 2>get fired for cheating. He got fired because he was cheating.

763
00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:55.159
<v Speaker 2>They stopped winning, like Bill Wade didn't. He didn't get

764
00:36:55.159 --> 00:36:58.119
<v Speaker 2>in trouble legally. He just you know, was involved in

765
00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:01.519
<v Speaker 2>something that a lot of people were doing but it

766
00:37:01.559 --> 00:37:03.920
<v Speaker 2>wasn't allowed. Then now it is allowed, and he's one

767
00:37:03.920 --> 00:37:05.400
<v Speaker 2>of the few that ended up on a wire that

768
00:37:05.559 --> 00:37:07.280
<v Speaker 2>you heard him talking about paying for players when it

769
00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:11.440
<v Speaker 2>wasn't allowed. So I don't know why Will Wade hasn't

770
00:37:11.440 --> 00:37:13.760
<v Speaker 2>gotten a job now. I mean, he's still coaching these

771
00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:15.360
<v Speaker 2>State's going to go to the tournament, So that's a

772
00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:17.320
<v Speaker 2>factor in why it hadn't happened yet. But I hope

773
00:37:17.400 --> 00:37:19.920
<v Speaker 2>NC State can get it done now. I don't know

774
00:37:19.960 --> 00:37:23.239
<v Speaker 2>why Ben McCollum is not somebody that Virginia's targeting. Maybe

775
00:37:23.239 --> 00:37:24.480
<v Speaker 2>they are, we just don't know, but it sounds like

776
00:37:24.599 --> 00:37:29.360
<v Speaker 2>Ryan Otam at VCU is who Virginia is is on

777
00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:32.159
<v Speaker 2>and may be able to get now he's done well.

778
00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:34.639
<v Speaker 2>He was at UNBC for a while. If you remember,

779
00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:37.159
<v Speaker 2>he's the guy who knocked off Virginia, which how wild

780
00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:39.679
<v Speaker 2>will that be? Virginia hiring the guy who beat them

781
00:37:39.719 --> 00:37:42.679
<v Speaker 2>in the round of sixty four, first ever one seed

782
00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:45.960
<v Speaker 2>to lose to his sixteen So he ended up. Then

783
00:37:46.199 --> 00:37:48.960
<v Speaker 2>he then went to Utah State for two years and

784
00:37:49.039 --> 00:37:53.119
<v Speaker 2>won there, and then he's been at VCU now where

785
00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:55.400
<v Speaker 2>he's won twenty four games last year, twenty five games

786
00:37:55.400 --> 00:37:58.599
<v Speaker 2>this year and he tied for the A ten. So

787
00:37:59.199 --> 00:38:00.880
<v Speaker 2>to me, that's a guy that has proven he can

788
00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:05.039
<v Speaker 2>win in different places in Virginia with what they're they're

789
00:38:06.639 --> 00:38:08.559
<v Speaker 2>what they have with resources, I suppose, like, I mean,

790
00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:11.679
<v Speaker 2>that could work, but Ben McCallum and me would be

791
00:38:11.679 --> 00:38:14.360
<v Speaker 2>a better hire. Now it sounds like Ben McCollum could

792
00:38:14.440 --> 00:38:19.199
<v Speaker 2>be making a very short trip away from Des Moines

793
00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:24.679
<v Speaker 2>where Drake's located. Rye's where he's at Drake because Iowa

794
00:38:25.079 --> 00:38:27.480
<v Speaker 2>and friend McCaffrey made part ways like he may retire

795
00:38:27.559 --> 00:38:30.559
<v Speaker 2>And if it's I mean, I think the timing for

796
00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:32.280
<v Speaker 2>that was probably a couple years ago. But either way,

797
00:38:33.199 --> 00:38:36.639
<v Speaker 2>if he moves on and retires after having a really

798
00:38:36.639 --> 00:38:41.239
<v Speaker 2>bad season this year, he's been there since twenty ten. McCollum,

799
00:38:41.519 --> 00:38:44.639
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think one Iowa can pay more money, clearly,

800
00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:47.639
<v Speaker 2>but Virginia's a better basketball job, I'd say. But he's

801
00:38:47.679 --> 00:38:51.000
<v Speaker 2>from Iowa. Ben McCollum like grew up inn Iowa fan apparently,

802
00:38:51.039 --> 00:38:53.639
<v Speaker 2>so maybe that's why he's Maybe he just knows that eventually,

803
00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:56.119
<v Speaker 2>even if it's not this year with McCaffrey, when that

804
00:38:56.199 --> 00:38:58.480
<v Speaker 2>job opens up, he wants it, and that would make

805
00:38:58.519 --> 00:39:01.360
<v Speaker 2>sense again, and I was a good job. I just

806
00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:03.519
<v Speaker 2>wish the ACC could get some of these good coaches,

807
00:39:03.559 --> 00:39:05.559
<v Speaker 2>because that's that's what it's gonna come down to. You've

808
00:39:05.559 --> 00:39:09.519
<v Speaker 2>got to get successful coaches in this league. That's the

809
00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:13.079
<v Speaker 2>first step in getting this league back on track. All Right,

810
00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:17.159
<v Speaker 2>we're out of time. You guys. Enjoy your evening. What

811
00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:20.400
<v Speaker 2>a fun evening. It's gonna be Louisville and Stanford. Hopefully

812
00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:24.360
<v Speaker 2>tomorrow we're back at it talking about another postseason game

813
00:39:24.400 --> 00:39:28.639
<v Speaker 2>of the Pat Kelse era, and hopefully we're talking about

814
00:39:29.400 --> 00:39:32.079
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky fans losing once again in Nashville, although I don't

815
00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:34.559
<v Speaker 2>believe that's gonna happen. Imagine they roll tonight. But anyways,

816
00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:36.639
<v Speaker 2>enjoy the evening. We're back at it tomorrow right here

817
00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:39.039
<v Speaker 2>on Sports Talk seven ninety