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<v Speaker 1>I was looking at an expiration date that had it

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<v Speaker 1>was May tenth, and I thought to myself, Oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's already passed. It's the twelfth. So I did the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing, confusing March and May. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>it is, but I blame daylight saving time.

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<v Speaker 2>It's time for our wellness segment.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel terrible. He spends most of his day at

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<v Speaker 1>the office, city into a variety of activities, and preferably

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<v Speaker 1>some exercise late in the afternoon. I never exercised a

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<v Speaker 1>day in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>You just got to sit here and wait to die.

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<v Speaker 1>Every morning, I smoke a cigarette and for lunch, I

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<v Speaker 1>eat a bacon sandwich and I usually drink my dinner

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<v Speaker 1>kit Star for Period period Guide for Wellness and Personal

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<v Speaker 1>Improvement Health.

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<v Speaker 3>I loved that former life scientists at the National Institutes

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<v Speaker 3>of Health are interested in answering this question. If ultra

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<v Speaker 3>processed foods, especially those that are high in fent and sugar,

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<v Speaker 3>can they cause a similarly outsized dopamine response, suggesting that

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<v Speaker 3>they could be addictive? Yes, how much money do we

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<v Speaker 3>spend at the National Institutes of Health to determine if

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<v Speaker 3>oreos are addictive?

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<v Speaker 1>This is interesting? Yeah, right, But there's one addiction where

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<v Speaker 1>you can be like, oh, these are so addicting, I

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<v Speaker 1>love these, I want to keep eating them. And then

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<v Speaker 1>there's like the real thing, which is, yes, it's clinically addictive,

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<v Speaker 1>these processed foods, and I support to them doing studies

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<v Speaker 1>like this so that then we can go after the

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<v Speaker 1>ultra processed food industry, which creates the foods to make

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<v Speaker 1>you addicted, which makes you unhealthy, and you're not gaining

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<v Speaker 1>any sort of real happiness out of these foods. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just the stupid neurons in your brain telling you that

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<v Speaker 1>you want more. It's not really making you happy. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just making you think that it's making you happy. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm all about going after this industry. It is the

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<v Speaker 1>same industry that got us hooked on cigarettes. It is

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<v Speaker 1>the tobacco industry that is pivoted into ultra processed foods.

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<v Speaker 1>I really support this article out of the Washington Post,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's about ultra process snacks and it says, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're bad, but here are the healthiest options, because listen,

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<v Speaker 1>we've already been screwed over by the industry. We're already

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<v Speaker 1>addicted to the ultra process snacks. So if we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to have them from time to time, how can we

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<v Speaker 1>get the healthiest one.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and think about this, the difference between what we

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<v Speaker 3>would consider healthy today and what was considered healthy, say

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<v Speaker 3>twenty years ago, where if you went into a snack

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<v Speaker 3>aisle you had things like snack wells and low sugar

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<v Speaker 3>cookies and all.

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<v Speaker 2>Of those things.

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<v Speaker 3>But to if you take sugar out of a cookie

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<v Speaker 3>as an example, you got to put a bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>other stuff in there to make it palatableserve. And it's

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<v Speaker 3>those extra things that are being put in there that

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<v Speaker 3>completely destroy the inside of our bodies and sometimes the

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<v Speaker 3>outsides of our bodies.

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<v Speaker 1>To your point about what used to be healthy, I

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<v Speaker 1>was at a Target recently and I was looking at

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<v Speaker 1>trail mix. Now, trail mix used to only be in

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<v Speaker 1>the nature food stores, which was no fun, no fun

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<v Speaker 1>at all, no taste, no salt, no sugar. Right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the ultraprocessed food industry has taken your trail mix industry

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<v Speaker 1>and revolutionized it. It's a candy aisle. It is a

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<v Speaker 1>candy isisle. There's about forty different types of using air

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<v Speaker 1>quotes here trail mix at the target, and some of

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<v Speaker 1>them are like peanut butter chips, chocolate chips, and toffee

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<v Speaker 1>chips with some peanuts and a couple of almonds Boom

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<v Speaker 1>trail mix and listen, I love all that stuff like.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not knocking it at all. I'm just saying that

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes what's sold to you is healthy is not.

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<v Speaker 3>Well and that what I love about this article I

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<v Speaker 3>think you do too, is that this doesn't say snacks

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<v Speaker 3>are all bad. And some of what you would consider

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<v Speaker 3>ultra sest foods, like chips, there are healthier alternatives, they say,

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<v Speaker 3>for example, potato chips, tortilla chips.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. I love that food group of.

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<v Speaker 3>Chips, I mean, but they say that a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>them obviously going to have extra sodium, They're going to

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<v Speaker 3>have extra saturated fats, and some of the more exotic ones,

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<v Speaker 3>especially lately, are going to have more of those synthetic

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<v Speaker 3>food dyes and additives like maltodextrin and quarn sine.

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<v Speaker 1>Me. I'm a cracker street worker. I love crackers. I

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy the salt on crackers. I like saltea. I'll eat

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<v Speaker 1>a sleeve of saltines and thinks nothing of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and they had the same.

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<v Speaker 3>The crackers are similar to chips, and that you got

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<v Speaker 3>to watch out for the enriched flour, the excess sodium,

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<v Speaker 3>the sugars and fats. So in terms of chips, one

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<v Speaker 3>of the things to look for, and as a general

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<v Speaker 3>rule I think is pretty safe, is the fewer ingredients

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<v Speaker 3>or the few west ingredients in some of these things.

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<v Speaker 3>For example, the Siete Food It's dip chip, grain free

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<v Speaker 3>tortilla chip. They have extra fiber in there, which is

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<v Speaker 3>good for you. Coming from cilium husk and pumpkin powder

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't sound great, but they don't. They don't have any

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<v Speaker 3>saturated fats, they don't have any emulsifiers or any cosmetic additives.

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<v Speaker 3>In terms of crackers, the Merry's Gone Crackers herb original

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<v Speaker 3>made with organic seeds and grains, high in protein and

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<v Speaker 3>fiber compared to some of the other brands.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's it. If you see something like.

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<v Speaker 3>Maltodextrin or guar gum or emulsifiers or things like that,

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<v Speaker 3>those are all things that don't necessarily have to be

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<v Speaker 3>in your food. The other issue is food is necessary.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe we need to reclassify what we consider food.

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<v Speaker 1>Like cookies.

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<v Speaker 2>Cookies are Foodokies, they are not a food.

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<v Speaker 1>They are a food.

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<v Speaker 2>Cookies are a thing we eat, but it doesn't necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>mean that they're food.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. I just got to the cookies portion of

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<v Speaker 1>the article and that's all I could think about. Or cookies.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll think about it this way. You breathe, yeah, air

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<v Speaker 3>breathe cookies. You know, you breathe air, yeah. But you

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<v Speaker 3>can also inhale smoke from a cigarette. True, two things

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<v Speaker 3>that you're doing. One of them is necessary, one of

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<v Speaker 3>them is the same physical pattern of the necessary thing,

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<v Speaker 3>the inhalation of something. But you're inhaling your cookies.

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<v Speaker 1>You're trying to get me to favor these blueberries here,

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<v Speaker 1>which are delicious, But you're trying to say that blueberries

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<v Speaker 1>and cookies are the same thing. So if I just

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<v Speaker 1>eat the blueberries, I'll be fine without the cookies.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I would say it this way. Blueberries the way

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<v Speaker 3>you're eating them are food. Blueberry candy is not a food, right,

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<v Speaker 3>although it's the same.

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<v Speaker 1>I see zero. So, like, what's the healthy cookie option

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<v Speaker 1>in your scenario?

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<v Speaker 2>Let me check. I don't think they have.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, they do have healthy They do some.

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<v Speaker 2>Healthy cookies in there at the bottom. So we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about cookies, and my definition of food.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not the definition of food, but for the for

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<v Speaker 3>a purpose of what we're talking about. My definition is.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good dress on her is food.

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<v Speaker 3>That's is stuff that you eat that provides nutrition for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, the fewer ingredients the better.

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<v Speaker 3>The fewer ingredients the better. And cookies, I would have argued,

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<v Speaker 3>are not a food because you can get minimal nutritional

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<v Speaker 3>value out of them. But you're doing it, you're simply

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<v Speaker 3>doing it for the pleasure of what you're eating.

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<v Speaker 2>My husband doing it out of necessity.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, my husband's been out of town, and I'll like

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<v Speaker 1>cook when he's here, but he's been out of town.

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<v Speaker 1>Very smart, And I said to myself in my head

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<v Speaker 1>the other day, I really feel like food for dinner.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like like crackers and cookies and ice cream.

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<v Speaker 1>But I had that thought, I don't really feel like

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<v Speaker 1>food like I don't really feel like a meal.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like crap. So we were talking about this

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<v Speaker 3>Washington Post article. They looked at some of the healthiest options,

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<v Speaker 3>even four processed snacks and cookies. Yes, whichever brand of

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<v Speaker 3>cookie you choose, it's still a cookie, they said, watch

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<v Speaker 3>out for the excess sugar. It's not uncommon to find

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<v Speaker 3>some brands of cookies that are twenty grams of sugar

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<v Speaker 3>per cookie, that's about five tea spoons. A lot of

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<v Speaker 3>them have saturated fats six or more grams of saturated

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<v Speaker 3>right fat, which American Heart Association suggests only.

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<v Speaker 1>Two my favorite kind of fat.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, they said that there are some healthier options, the

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<v Speaker 3>Urban Remedy Superfood Cookie chocolate chip, which is bite sized.

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<v Speaker 3>One serving is three cookies by seven, four grams of

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<v Speaker 3>added sugar.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like those Trader Joe's Baby Chocolate Chip cookies.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, they come in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, whatever monster came up with that should be taken

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<v Speaker 1>out back.

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<v Speaker 3>The other option is Maxine's Heavenly Chocolate Chocolate Chunk Cookie.

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<v Speaker 3>They said they're relatively low and sugar in saturated fat,

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<v Speaker 3>and Pumpkin pecan spice by that same brand have just

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<v Speaker 3>three grams of added sugar.

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<v Speaker 2>Or cookie two gram saturated fat.

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<v Speaker 3>But again, you're also talking about serving size, which is

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<v Speaker 3>way below anything that anybody realistically eats.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're going to sit down in a cookie, Kelly.

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<v Speaker 1>The serving size, get out of here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>The other wellness story is just simply how and we've

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<v Speaker 3>talked about this many times, using AI, using smartphones, using

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<v Speaker 3>all of the digital technology that's available to us now

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<v Speaker 3>completely erodes the ability of our brain.

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<v Speaker 1>To focus, work to work.

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<v Speaker 3>Think about how often or how how rarely you would

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<v Speaker 3>use a map to get to where you needed to

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<v Speaker 3>go on a regular basis.

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<v Speaker 1>I get mad at myself when I found myself reliant

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<v Speaker 1>on that, especially when it's someplace I've been before, exactly

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<v Speaker 1>so embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 2>I turn it on all the time simply because it's

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<v Speaker 2>a habit.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, I don't need to know how to get to

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<v Speaker 3>like my daughter's dorm room at cal Poly or something

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<v Speaker 3>like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been there before. You you should have a memory

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<v Speaker 1>of it. If you don't, you're too distracted, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>What I like is I like just to see the

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<v Speaker 2>time that I'll get there.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's true. I do love that. I do love that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how they get you.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how they get you. It's Bastard's ultra processed maps.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how they get you.

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<v Speaker 1>Chomp, chump, chomp,