Speaker 1: I was looking at an expiration date that had it
Speaker 1: was May tenth, and I thought to myself, Oh, well,
Speaker 1: that's already passed. It's the twelfth. So I did the
Speaker 1: same thing, confusing March and May. I don't know what
Speaker 1: it is, but I blame daylight saving time.
Speaker 2: It's time for our wellness segment.
Speaker 1: I feel terrible. He spends most of his day at
Speaker 1: the office, city into a variety of activities, and preferably
Speaker 1: some exercise late in the afternoon. I never exercised a
Speaker 1: day in my life.
Speaker 2: You just got to sit here and wait to die.
Speaker 1: Every morning, I smoke a cigarette and for lunch, I
Speaker 1: eat a bacon sandwich and I usually drink my dinner
Speaker 1: kit Star for Period period Guide for Wellness and Personal
Speaker 1: Improvement Health.
Speaker 3: I loved that former life scientists at the National Institutes
Speaker 3: of Health are interested in answering this question. If ultra
Speaker 3: processed foods, especially those that are high in fent and sugar,
Speaker 3: can they cause a similarly outsized dopamine response, suggesting that
Speaker 3: they could be addictive? Yes, how much money do we
Speaker 3: spend at the National Institutes of Health to determine if
Speaker 3: oreos are addictive?
Speaker 1: This is interesting? Yeah, right, But there's one addiction where
Speaker 1: you can be like, oh, these are so addicting, I
Speaker 1: love these, I want to keep eating them. And then
Speaker 1: there's like the real thing, which is, yes, it's clinically addictive,
Speaker 1: these processed foods, and I support to them doing studies
Speaker 1: like this so that then we can go after the
Speaker 1: ultra processed food industry, which creates the foods to make
Speaker 1: you addicted, which makes you unhealthy, and you're not gaining
Speaker 1: any sort of real happiness out of these foods. It's
Speaker 1: just the stupid neurons in your brain telling you that
Speaker 1: you want more. It's not really making you happy. It's
Speaker 1: just making you think that it's making you happy. And
Speaker 1: I'm all about going after this industry. It is the
Speaker 1: same industry that got us hooked on cigarettes. It is
Speaker 1: the tobacco industry that is pivoted into ultra processed foods.
Speaker 1: I really support this article out of the Washington Post,
Speaker 1: and it's about ultra process snacks and it says, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're bad, but here are the healthiest options, because listen,
Speaker 1: we've already been screwed over by the industry. We're already
Speaker 1: addicted to the ultra process snacks. So if we're going
Speaker 1: to have them from time to time, how can we
Speaker 1: get the healthiest one.
Speaker 3: Well, and think about this, the difference between what we
Speaker 3: would consider healthy today and what was considered healthy, say
Speaker 3: twenty years ago, where if you went into a snack
Speaker 3: aisle you had things like snack wells and low sugar
Speaker 3: cookies and all.
Speaker 2: Of those things.
Speaker 3: But to if you take sugar out of a cookie
Speaker 3: as an example, you got to put a bunch of
Speaker 3: other stuff in there to make it palatableserve. And it's
Speaker 3: those extra things that are being put in there that
Speaker 3: completely destroy the inside of our bodies and sometimes the
Speaker 3: outsides of our bodies.
Speaker 1: To your point about what used to be healthy, I
Speaker 1: was at a Target recently and I was looking at
Speaker 1: trail mix. Now, trail mix used to only be in
Speaker 1: the nature food stores, which was no fun, no fun
Speaker 1: at all, no taste, no salt, no sugar. Right, Well,
Speaker 1: the ultraprocessed food industry has taken your trail mix industry
Speaker 1: and revolutionized it. It's a candy aisle. It is a
Speaker 1: candy isisle. There's about forty different types of using air
Speaker 1: quotes here trail mix at the target, and some of
Speaker 1: them are like peanut butter chips, chocolate chips, and toffee
Speaker 1: chips with some peanuts and a couple of almonds Boom
Speaker 1: trail mix and listen, I love all that stuff like.
Speaker 1: I'm not knocking it at all. I'm just saying that
Speaker 1: sometimes what's sold to you is healthy is not.
Speaker 3: Well and that what I love about this article I
Speaker 3: think you do too, is that this doesn't say snacks
Speaker 3: are all bad. And some of what you would consider
Speaker 3: ultra sest foods, like chips, there are healthier alternatives, they say,
Speaker 3: for example, potato chips, tortilla chips.
Speaker 2: I love that. I love that food group of.
Speaker 3: Chips, I mean, but they say that a lot of
Speaker 3: them obviously going to have extra sodium, They're going to
Speaker 3: have extra saturated fats, and some of the more exotic ones,
Speaker 3: especially lately, are going to have more of those synthetic
Speaker 3: food dyes and additives like maltodextrin and quarn sine.
Speaker 1: Me. I'm a cracker street worker. I love crackers. I
Speaker 1: enjoy the salt on crackers. I like saltea. I'll eat
Speaker 1: a sleeve of saltines and thinks nothing of it.
Speaker 2: Well, and they had the same.
Speaker 3: The crackers are similar to chips, and that you got
Speaker 3: to watch out for the enriched flour, the excess sodium,
Speaker 3: the sugars and fats. So in terms of chips, one
Speaker 3: of the things to look for, and as a general
Speaker 3: rule I think is pretty safe, is the fewer ingredients
Speaker 3: or the few west ingredients in some of these things.
Speaker 3: For example, the Siete Food It's dip chip, grain free
Speaker 3: tortilla chip. They have extra fiber in there, which is
Speaker 3: good for you. Coming from cilium husk and pumpkin powder
Speaker 3: doesn't sound great, but they don't. They don't have any
Speaker 3: saturated fats, they don't have any emulsifiers or any cosmetic additives.
Speaker 3: In terms of crackers, the Merry's Gone Crackers herb original
Speaker 3: made with organic seeds and grains, high in protein and
Speaker 3: fiber compared to some of the other brands.
Speaker 2: And it's it. If you see something like.
Speaker 3: Maltodextrin or guar gum or emulsifiers or things like that,
Speaker 3: those are all things that don't necessarily have to be
Speaker 3: in your food. The other issue is food is necessary.
Speaker 3: Maybe we need to reclassify what we consider food.
Speaker 1: Like cookies.
Speaker 2: Cookies are Foodokies, they are not a food.
Speaker 1: They are a food.
Speaker 2: Cookies are a thing we eat, but it doesn't necessarily
Speaker 2: mean that they're food.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I just got to the cookies portion of
Speaker 1: the article and that's all I could think about. Or cookies.
Speaker 3: We'll think about it this way. You breathe, yeah, air
Speaker 3: breathe cookies. You know, you breathe air, yeah. But you
Speaker 3: can also inhale smoke from a cigarette. True, two things
Speaker 3: that you're doing. One of them is necessary, one of
Speaker 3: them is the same physical pattern of the necessary thing,
Speaker 3: the inhalation of something. But you're inhaling your cookies.
Speaker 1: You're trying to get me to favor these blueberries here,
Speaker 1: which are delicious, But you're trying to say that blueberries
Speaker 1: and cookies are the same thing. So if I just
Speaker 1: eat the blueberries, I'll be fine without the cookies.
Speaker 3: No, I would say it this way. Blueberries the way
Speaker 3: you're eating them are food. Blueberry candy is not a food, right,
Speaker 3: although it's the same.
Speaker 1: I see zero. So, like, what's the healthy cookie option
Speaker 1: in your scenario?
Speaker 2: Let me check. I don't think they have.
Speaker 1: Oh, they do have healthy They do some.
Speaker 2: Healthy cookies in there at the bottom. So we're talking
Speaker 2: about cookies, and my definition of food.
Speaker 3: It's not the definition of food, but for the for
Speaker 3: a purpose of what we're talking about. My definition is.
Speaker 1: That's a good dress on her is food.
Speaker 3: That's is stuff that you eat that provides nutrition for you.
Speaker 1: Right, the fewer ingredients the better.
Speaker 3: The fewer ingredients the better. And cookies, I would have argued,
Speaker 3: are not a food because you can get minimal nutritional
Speaker 3: value out of them. But you're doing it, you're simply
Speaker 3: doing it for the pleasure of what you're eating.
Speaker 2: My husband doing it out of necessity.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my husband's been out of town, and I'll like
Speaker 1: cook when he's here, but he's been out of town.
Speaker 1: Very smart, And I said to myself in my head
Speaker 1: the other day, I really feel like food for dinner.
Speaker 1: I feel like like crackers and cookies and ice cream.
Speaker 1: But I had that thought, I don't really feel like
Speaker 1: food like I don't really feel like a meal.
Speaker 3: I feel like crap. So we were talking about this
Speaker 3: Washington Post article. They looked at some of the healthiest options,
Speaker 3: even four processed snacks and cookies. Yes, whichever brand of
Speaker 3: cookie you choose, it's still a cookie, they said, watch
Speaker 3: out for the excess sugar. It's not uncommon to find
Speaker 3: some brands of cookies that are twenty grams of sugar
Speaker 3: per cookie, that's about five tea spoons. A lot of
Speaker 3: them have saturated fats six or more grams of saturated
Speaker 3: right fat, which American Heart Association suggests only.
Speaker 1: Two my favorite kind of fat.
Speaker 3: Now, they said that there are some healthier options, the
Speaker 3: Urban Remedy Superfood Cookie chocolate chip, which is bite sized.
Speaker 3: One serving is three cookies by seven, four grams of
Speaker 3: added sugar.
Speaker 1: It's like those Trader Joe's Baby Chocolate Chip cookies.
Speaker 2: Yes, they come in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever monster came up with that should be taken
Speaker 1: out back.
Speaker 3: The other option is Maxine's Heavenly Chocolate Chocolate Chunk Cookie.
Speaker 3: They said they're relatively low and sugar in saturated fat,
Speaker 3: and Pumpkin pecan spice by that same brand have just
Speaker 3: three grams of added sugar.
Speaker 2: Or cookie two gram saturated fat.
Speaker 3: But again, you're also talking about serving size, which is
Speaker 3: way below anything that anybody realistically eats.
Speaker 2: If you're going to sit down in a cookie, Kelly.
Speaker 1: The serving size, get out of here.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The other wellness story is just simply how and we've
Speaker 3: talked about this many times, using AI, using smartphones, using
Speaker 3: all of the digital technology that's available to us now
Speaker 3: completely erodes the ability of our brain.
Speaker 1: To focus, work to work.
Speaker 3: Think about how often or how how rarely you would
Speaker 3: use a map to get to where you needed to
Speaker 3: go on a regular basis.
Speaker 1: I get mad at myself when I found myself reliant
Speaker 1: on that, especially when it's someplace I've been before, exactly
Speaker 1: so embarrassing.
Speaker 2: I turn it on all the time simply because it's
Speaker 2: a habit.
Speaker 3: Now, I don't need to know how to get to
Speaker 3: like my daughter's dorm room at cal Poly or something
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 1: You've been there before. You you should have a memory
Speaker 1: of it. If you don't, you're too distracted, and that's
Speaker 1: a problem.
Speaker 2: What I like is I like just to see the
Speaker 2: time that I'll get there.
Speaker 1: And that's true. I do love that. I do love that.
Speaker 2: That's how they get you.
Speaker 3: That's how they get you. It's Bastard's ultra processed maps.
Speaker 2: That's how they get you.
Speaker 1: Chomp, chump, chomp,