Speaker 1: It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for
Speaker 1: ignition with the aaw Fan podcast team. This is Kelson
Speaker 1: and I guess the best place to start is with
Speaker 1: the news that Malachi Black, Ricky Starks, and Miro are
Speaker 1: no longer with the company. From what I understand, they
Speaker 1: were all removed from the aw roster page. There is
Speaker 1: no non compete clause for either of them. They are
Speaker 1: free to go anywhere they want immediately. Let's talk about it.
Speaker 1: Where do you see these three guys going, if anywhere.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure about Malachi, but I'm pretty sure. I
Speaker 2: don't know if Mirro gonna go back to WW or not,
Speaker 2: because I wasn't too sure when he left it. He
Speaker 2: left on good terms with them, So Ricky probably will
Speaker 2: be there in NXT within the next week or two.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't agree with that go ahead.
Speaker 4: No, I said maybe maybe, But I think we might
Speaker 4: get Ricky starts in the crowd on Saturday at Vengeance Day,
Speaker 4: and obviously I think that would be a great spot
Speaker 4: for him. W W e O don't give him what
Speaker 4: he needs. He needs training and structure, and that's gonna
Speaker 4: be perfect for him.
Speaker 5: Mirro. It's hit or mess with Mirrow.
Speaker 4: I think she could go to CNA, he could go back.
Speaker 5: To w w E.
Speaker 4: Hey, we don't know yet. But mal Kai Black, if
Speaker 4: he doesn't go back to w w E, I'll be
Speaker 4: I'll be surprised, Honestly, I'll be very surprised.
Speaker 3: Okay, fair enough?
Speaker 1: Anybody else have any opinions on this?
Speaker 6: I know I think that Ricky will events we end
Speaker 6: up in WWE, But Mirro I think he might be
Speaker 6: done completely. And Malachi Black, I really can't see him
Speaker 6: going back over to WWE. Maybe he'll do some independent
Speaker 6: wrestling and maybe a podcast or something like our podcast.
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, anybody else.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'd be shocked at Malachi wouldn't return to WWE
Speaker 7: and be with his wife, be able to travel with her,
Speaker 7: you know. And SmackDown could probably use a few more
Speaker 7: stars at the moment, you know, they've we're as kind
Speaker 7: of absorbed all the guys on that end.
Speaker 1: So yeah, anybody else has any opinion on where these
Speaker 1: guys may end up? No, uh, well, well I'll just
Speaker 1: express mine as far as Malachi Black goes. And again,
Speaker 1: this is just an opinion. It's not an educated opinion
Speaker 1: at all, you know, I'm an idiot, so just take
Speaker 1: it at face value. Malachi Black, I think that maybe
Speaker 1: Malachi may be done with wrestling. I really really believe that,
Speaker 1: not one hundred percent. But I don't think that he
Speaker 1: wants to be tied down to a company anymore. I
Speaker 1: would actually be stocked if Malachi Black ended up back
Speaker 1: into WWE. I think that he's probably going to be
Speaker 1: doing things like a training school with as Net said,
Speaker 1: some independent dates, which he's already done, you know, sprinkled
Speaker 1: in there, and that's that now. As far as Miro,
Speaker 1: I one hundred percent believe that Miro is done with wrestling.
Speaker 1: I mean he's given no indication whatsoever of wrestling, whereas
Speaker 1: Malachi Black has wrestled it in depend that chose and
Speaker 1: is posted on the internet about wrestling and things like that.
Speaker 1: Miro has been dead silent. I would not be surprised
Speaker 1: if he is in Bulgaria right now and just live
Speaker 1: in his best life, and good for him. But I
Speaker 1: don't think that he's destined for anywhere other than whatever
Speaker 1: he wants to do. And you know what, great for
Speaker 1: him if he wants to go to WE, fine, if
Speaker 1: he wants to start a training school, fine hell, Malky Black.
Speaker 3: Even it kind of.
Speaker 1: Strikes me as the kind of guy that would start
Speaker 1: his own promotion, an independent promotion, just for to give back,
Speaker 1: you know, give these new guys some training, let them
Speaker 1: work on their wrestling skills and their other character.
Speaker 2: I would be Mirros put to the hell before he
Speaker 2: left WWE. I mean the whole Bubby Lashley, his wife,
Speaker 2: that whole storyline was terrible, and I would I can
Speaker 2: imagine him not going back, very very very easily not
Speaker 2: going back there.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: As far as Ricky Starks goes, this one is interesting
Speaker 1: to me because Ricky Starks is kind of a pal
Speaker 1: with seem Punk, so you know, just can't Sutton mute please.
Speaker 1: He's a pal with See Them Punk and.
Speaker 3: That's a fact.
Speaker 1: But I will say this, usually when somebody leads AW
Speaker 1: or even WWE, H I wish for them to get
Speaker 1: you know, a new job, do whatever they do. I
Speaker 1: personally believe that it will be a massive, massive mistake
Speaker 1: for WW to take on Ricky Starks. I really do
Speaker 1: believe that. I think that WW needs to send need
Speaker 1: needs to send him on Indie run to get him
Speaker 1: to get his you know, head out of his ass,
Speaker 1: because The thing with Ricky Starks is that he thinks,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, he thinks he's a lot better than
Speaker 1: he actually is, and he's not. I'm agreeables, and you
Speaker 1: know he he you know, aw fans for better or
Speaker 1: for worse, many of them have called see I'm punk
Speaker 1: of cancer. I put Ricky Starks in that category. There's
Speaker 1: a reason why he was under contract and not used
Speaker 1: for months and months and months and months. And that's
Speaker 1: probably because, sorry, probably because he's a prick.
Speaker 2: He bought the comparisons to the Rock. He bought into
Speaker 2: that way way too much, way.
Speaker 1: Way too much.
Speaker 3: Does he have talent?
Speaker 1: Sure? Why anybody would be a fan of him? I
Speaker 1: have no idea. It's really it just really that's the
Speaker 1: way I look at it. I just think that, you know,
Speaker 1: generally speaking, I think that like I root for wrestlers
Speaker 1: to find another job and live their best life, Ricky Starks,
Speaker 1: I just don't feel that way. And I'm sorry. You know,
Speaker 1: the guy is a He just doesn't strike me as
Speaker 1: the type of person that I would want my home.
Speaker 1: Put it that way. So that's my opinion to take
Speaker 1: it the way you want it, because it's an uneducated opinion.
Speaker 1: I've said I'm an idiot, but you know, the way
Speaker 1: I judge character is that Ricky Starks doesn't have one.
Speaker 6: I can't agree want Kelson. I saw him live Friday night,
Speaker 6: and I didn't find anything impressive about him. I thought
Speaker 6: maybe if I saw him in person, he might rub
Speaker 6: off on me a little bit, but I didn't see
Speaker 6: anything stand out about him. And I do think that
Speaker 6: he will end up in WWE at some point. There's
Speaker 6: a place for him somewhere where. I don't know, but yeah,
Speaker 6: he's not my favorite guy either.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I do think he did end up
Speaker 3: in WWEI.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I just think that WWE needs to
Speaker 1: take steps two. I guess the best way to describe
Speaker 1: it is to detox him because he's got some issues.
Speaker 1: He really does. In my opinion, he just doesn't seem
Speaker 1: like the type of guy that anybody really appreciated in
Speaker 1: the locker room because he seems like a prick. Like
Speaker 1: I said, I don't think that he's uh that guy.
Speaker 7: So the locker room didn't like him.
Speaker 1: Uh everyone, especially the people that were running the show.
Speaker 1: I don't think that Tony Kahan liked him. I don't
Speaker 1: think that any of the producers liked him. I don't
Speaker 1: think that. I mean, look, the guy was healthy. He
Speaker 1: said he'd never turned down creative. Sure this is coming
Speaker 1: what from Ricky Starks. I don't think he was ever
Speaker 1: presented with creative to be turned down. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think that he was literally in wrestling terms, Ricky Starks
Speaker 1: is a probably one of the best examples of someone
Speaker 1: who got buried by a w He was literally buried.
Speaker 1: What has he done?
Speaker 6: What did he do to startle all of this?
Speaker 7: I mean, Brian Danielson said he was the one that
Speaker 7: called the match all out, praised him, said he hit
Speaker 7: a home run. I mean, was candid in his praise
Speaker 7: of him and his ability. Ponga a fan of Ricky Starks.
Speaker 7: Cody Rhodes a fan of Ricky Starks.
Speaker 3: That's well and fine.
Speaker 1: That's well and fine. But what I'm saying is is
Speaker 1: that you could be a fan of somebody's wrestling ability
Speaker 1: or any ability that they have, whether it's a singer,
Speaker 1: an actor, you know, whatever. Uh, but that doesn't necessarily
Speaker 1: mean that they're a good person. And it just seems
Speaker 1: to me like Ricky Starks is a little you know.
Speaker 1: The only explanation I have for it is that Ricky
Speaker 1: Starks is kind of a jerk. You know, any rub
Speaker 1: people the wrong way. What other explanation could there possibly be.
Speaker 1: He wasn't injured, so you know, in my opinion, it
Speaker 1: seemed like Ricky Starks thought that he was a main
Speaker 1: eventor when he's a lower mid carter and if he
Speaker 1: does go to WWE, I wish him the best, but
Speaker 1: he's not going to be He's not going to be
Speaker 1: anything but a lord big carter WWE at best because
Speaker 1: that's all he's got. You know, That's that's just my opinion.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you guys disagree with me, by by
Speaker 1: all means tell me you disagree with me. But that's
Speaker 1: just my opinion on Ricky Starks.
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's not a min event guy.
Speaker 1: I mean, he and Big Bill were aw Tag team
Speaker 1: champions and I thought that that run was really really
Speaker 1: well done. But the thing about that run was that
Speaker 1: was where people started to see that Big Bill was
Speaker 1: emerging as kind of a star. And it wasn't Ricky
Speaker 1: Starks that made that team go. It was Big Bill
Speaker 1: that made the team go. Yeah, if you remember, it
Speaker 1: was stinging Darby Allen to beat Big Bill and Ricky
Speaker 1: Starks not much longer than a year ago. It was
Speaker 1: like a year ago this week or last week that
Speaker 1: they won the championship off of Ricky Stark's A Big Bill,
Speaker 1: And of course then they carried it right through to
Speaker 1: Sting's retirement match, and then they vacated and Ricky Stark's
Speaker 1: A Big Bill were never seen or heard from again
Speaker 1: as a tag team.
Speaker 3: After that, it.
Speaker 1: Was, you know, something happened. And then, of course you
Speaker 1: have to remember it was that interchange between Adam Copeland
Speaker 1: and Adam Copeland and Ricky Starks where Ricky Starks called,
Speaker 1: you know, mentioned something about Adam Copeland's bug eyes, and
Speaker 1: Adam Copland called him a vanilla.
Speaker 3: Rock, and.
Speaker 2: I love that. I kind of agree with you, But
Speaker 2: I think the issue came down to the fact that
Speaker 2: I think Ricky got off to a bad side of
Speaker 2: everybody because I don't think he really wanted to lose
Speaker 2: the titles to Sting in Darby. I think he thought
Speaker 2: he was better than that and shouldn't have to put
Speaker 2: those titles and give those titles up. I think, because
Speaker 2: if you remember, that's where most of his trouble started
Speaker 2: was around that time.
Speaker 7: I disagree with that. I don't think he wanted the
Speaker 7: tag team titles to begin with. I think he was
Speaker 7: in the middle of a huge main event run on
Speaker 7: Collision for the quote unquote Real World's Championship, supposed to
Speaker 7: have a main event match with Punk. It all out,
Speaker 7: the rugg got pulled from under him, and then he
Speaker 7: got put in this tag team and he didn't want
Speaker 7: to do I disagree with that. I don't think he
Speaker 7: was mad about losing the titles. I think he was mad.
Speaker 7: He was in a position that I think a lot
Speaker 7: of guys strive for, and it was it was taken
Speaker 7: from him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that wasn't That wasn't that wasn't anybody's fault
Speaker 2: but Punks.
Speaker 7: I mean that was continuing to push him as a star.
Speaker 7: I mean, I don't he was in a position working
Speaker 7: for a title that was on collision. You know, we
Speaker 7: can say it wasn't valid, but belts the belt Punk
Speaker 7: technically never lost it.
Speaker 2: Well, but the thing about that is is it was
Speaker 2: something that was It was partially Tony's Falders, partially Punk's faulds,
Speaker 2: partially everybody's fault that was involved in it. But the
Speaker 2: thing comes down to you can't continue to push somebody
Speaker 2: for something that doesn't exist anymore. So when Pup was released,
Speaker 2: yeah he could have pushed him. But if you're getting
Speaker 2: a reaction from somebody, that's like pissy because something fell through.
Speaker 2: That Shit happens in this game. It's not like you
Speaker 2: can count on everything being the same every week in
Speaker 2: and week in week out. You got people get hurt,
Speaker 2: people get fired, people do stupid crap, and it's just
Speaker 2: one of those things where I don't think he handled
Speaker 2: it right. That's where it came. That's when his problems started.
Speaker 6: Maybe he didn't handle it right, but I feel like
Speaker 6: maybe people around him didn't handle it properly either. They
Speaker 6: could have kept the momentum on Ricky going. I mean,
Speaker 6: we talk about creative all the time. There's something that
Speaker 6: they could have switched him to that would have kept
Speaker 6: his build going and made him bigger and bigger and bigger,
Speaker 6: and for whatever reason, they just kind of dropped them.
Speaker 6: And so I can see him having some frustration there.
Speaker 1: Well, Dett let me bring this up because and I
Speaker 1: don't remember the dates because honestly, I just don't, but
Speaker 1: I think somewhere around late twenty twenty two, maybe early
Speaker 1: twenty three through early twenty twenty four, a w was
Speaker 1: making an effort to push Ricky Starks, and stuff kept happening.
Speaker 1: Ricky Starks even made a promo about it in Ray,
Speaker 1: alluding to the fact that he would get into a
Speaker 1: program with this person and that person would get injured,
Speaker 1: He'd get into a program with another person and that
Speaker 1: person got suspended. And that's the truth. I mean, everything
Speaker 1: he seemed to do was derailed to a point, even
Speaker 1: like with the CM punk thing, you know, and I
Speaker 1: admitted this, and I said this a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: ago when he had his match against CM Punk on Collision,
Speaker 1: and even CM Punk said this that Ricky Starks carried
Speaker 1: him through that match. Ricky Starks had a decent match
Speaker 1: because CM Punk was just awful. He was slow, he
Speaker 1: was plotting, he was wrestling like a sixty year old
Speaker 1: that had no business being in a ring. And Ricky
Speaker 1: Starks literally carried him through that and everybody saw it.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of the downfall for Ricky Starks
Speaker 1: was if you remember that chair shot to Brian Danielson's
Speaker 1: leg and the corner where Ricky Starks had a chair
Speaker 1: and he was standing awe on the floor while Danielson
Speaker 1: was literally laying with his leg wrapped around the corner,
Speaker 1: and Ricky Starks swung the chair to hit Danielsen's leg
Speaker 1: and missed Danielson's leg by at least two feet, and
Speaker 1: somebody in the crowd said something about it, and Ricky
Speaker 1: Starks tore them a new asshole. I mean, yeah, you
Speaker 1: know that kind of thing. To me, it just seems
Speaker 1: to me like that's who Ricky Starks is. He's got,
Speaker 1: you know, in his mind, he has big balls when
Speaker 1: he doesn't, you know, And I think that that's the problem.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 1: Look, regardless of what you think, the fact of the
Speaker 1: matter is is that, for all we know and all
Speaker 1: that's been reported, Ricky Starks has been healthy for all
Speaker 1: these months and not used by aw There's a reason
Speaker 1: for that.
Speaker 6: I want you all to have a good thought for
Speaker 6: me because I go to the Independence here in Seattle
Speaker 6: and Ricky Starks on Friday night became defied champion. So
Speaker 6: I'm going to be seeing a lot more of him,
Speaker 6: and have a good thought for that, because I don't
Speaker 6: want to see him.
Speaker 1: Well you know what it is, you know, Ricky, Ricky
Speaker 1: could be Ricky could be a big star. However, I
Speaker 1: feel that he's been a victim of circumstance. I do
Speaker 1: believe that when aw was trying to push him, there
Speaker 1: was suspensions, there were injuries. I even think Ricky Starks
Speaker 1: got suspended at one point. I don't remember if it
Speaker 1: was k Faber for real, but I do know there
Speaker 1: was suspension of all Ricky Starks at one point. But
Speaker 1: the other thing is is that he's he just and
Speaker 1: again this is just my opinion. He just seems to
Speaker 1: get in his own way. If Ricky Starks can get
Speaker 1: his head out of his ass and wrestle and do
Speaker 1: what he's told to do, you know, then you know,
Speaker 1: and act like he enjoys it. I guess that he'll
Speaker 1: be successful if he continues down the current path that
Speaker 1: he's on, which obviously is not working based on the
Speaker 1: amount of work he's had in the company that employed him.
Speaker 1: There's a reason for that. As I said, there's a reason.
Speaker 1: So everybody can't be wrong, everybody can't be right, so
Speaker 1: there's a reason. Let's just put it that way. It
Speaker 1: could be that just Tony Kan just didn't like the
Speaker 1: guy for whatever reason and said I'm not going to
Speaker 1: use him, you know, and there's no other reason other
Speaker 1: than Tony kanj just didn't like him. That's it. You
Speaker 1: never know, and we probably will never know, you know.
Speaker 1: And I will say this is that if Ricky Starks
Speaker 1: does go to WWE, he should keep his mouth shut
Speaker 1: about it because it seems to be like if he
Speaker 1: opens his mouth and says, this is the reason why
Speaker 1: I wasn't used, it was all their fault. I think
Speaker 1: that a lot of stories will come out about Rickey Starks,
Speaker 1: you know, from the locker room on up so Hey.
Speaker 4: But Kilson, however, if he does end up in w
Speaker 4: w E, and that's why I think that's the right
Speaker 4: spot for him, because WWE will give him that structure.
Speaker 4: It'll give him, you know, people that he that he
Speaker 4: needs to answer to, that being Sewn Michaels, Matt Boom,
Speaker 4: all the NXT heads. He's gonna have to answer to them.
Speaker 4: And I know Seawn Michaels will not take his bs.
Speaker 1: That's well and fine, But my point is when you
Speaker 1: have when you're working for a company that is known
Speaker 1: meaning a w for being more lenient, I guess it's
Speaker 1: the best way to put it or more open to
Speaker 1: having talent come up with their own ideas and present
Speaker 1: their own ideas, and you can't make it work there
Speaker 1: Ricky Starks at WWE.
Speaker 3: No, And I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 1: I mean, people are you know saying and I've seen it,
Speaker 1: you know, posted many times already. Ricky Starks a WWE
Speaker 1: he's going to be a big guy in WWE. I
Speaker 1: don't hold your breath on that. He just he's not.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have the talent to be a big guy
Speaker 1: in WWE. He may be a friend of Seeing Punk
Speaker 1: and he may be a friend of Cody Rhodes, but
Speaker 1: he's not and never will be on their level of
Speaker 1: what they are now and what they used to be
Speaker 1: because Ricky Starks just isn't that guy. And that's just
Speaker 1: my opinion and I stand by it. I have never
Speaker 1: been let me put it this way, I have rarely
Speaker 1: been impressed by anything that's Ricky Starks did in AAW
Speaker 1: I wish him the best, Defy is probably the best
Speaker 1: place for him, but I just i'd never got him.
Speaker 1: I don't understand why anybody would be a fan of him,
Speaker 1: I really don't.
Speaker 4: I mean, is there just how curious is there a
Speaker 4: possibility he would end up back in GCW.
Speaker 1: There's a possibility for anything. I mean, there's a possibility
Speaker 1: you can end up back at AAW. You never know,
Speaker 1: you know, it's just one of those things. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying that, as far as the locker room goes without
Speaker 1: without Ricky Starks in AW, I believe that the locker
Speaker 1: was a better place right now and has been since
Speaker 1: he's been basically not part of the shows.
Speaker 4: I mean, in a way, yes, they probably his really
Speaker 4: is probably dead aid to the locker room morale being
Speaker 4: more positive.
Speaker 5: But y'all will get the bigger picture.
Speaker 1: My thing is is that if if, just for an example,
Speaker 1: if Ricky Starks does go to WWE, I'm sure he'll
Speaker 1: get a big pop from the crowd. I'm sure he'll
Speaker 1: be put in a nice program more more than likely
Speaker 1: on NXT uh and he may even get some sort
Speaker 1: of title. I don't know, you know what the NXT
Speaker 1: titles picture is like right now. But I also believe
Speaker 1: that in a matter of time, maybe two three months,
Speaker 1: it's gonna fall apart because Ricky Starks. Max she said,
Speaker 1: you said it, and I agree with you that WWE
Speaker 1: has a much stricter structure and shat Michaels won't put
Speaker 1: up with that kind of thing. That's not good for
Speaker 1: Ricky Starks because that's what he does. So that's that. Well, Look,
Speaker 1: let's move on because I want to talk about Grand
Speaker 1: Slam Australia. We got five matches on the card and
Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts on these matches. We're
Speaker 1: going to cover each match. Some of them will probably
Speaker 1: cover in depth, some of them will probably gloss over
Speaker 1: a little bit because maybe we're not as enthusiastic about them.
Speaker 1: But we'll see because we've not discussed about it. So
Speaker 1: let's start with John Moxley and I believe it's claudiocastic
Speaker 1: Noley going against Adam Copeland and Jay White in a
Speaker 1: Brisbane ball brawl. I'm sorry, not a ball but a brawl. Uh,
Speaker 1: what are you guys thinking about this match? What do you?
Speaker 8: What do you?
Speaker 1: What do you? What are your thoughts? Just who's gonna win?
Speaker 1: I don't know? Is this a match that uh that's
Speaker 1: got your enthusiasm high?
Speaker 2: Two weeks ago I would have said that it's gonna
Speaker 2: be a squash match in the end, that the death
Speaker 2: Riders are going to come out and totally destroy them.
Speaker 2: But with the way things have changed in the last
Speaker 2: week or so, I'm not sure. I think it's going
Speaker 2: to be a good match, because the four guys involved
Speaker 2: will put on one a hell of a match. They
Speaker 2: will beat the living crap out of each other. But
Speaker 2: I don't know. I could actually see Cope and uh
Speaker 2: White winning.
Speaker 3: It, Okay, anybody else?
Speaker 8: Yeah, the Cope and Adam White there. I I like it.
Speaker 8: Jay White, I just seem neat for this match. That's
Speaker 8: all struggling to find a reason why there has to
Speaker 8: be this match, Like there's no championship on the line,
Speaker 8: and Moxley's right there, he's the champ. So I don't know.
Speaker 8: I don't have high hopes for it.
Speaker 6: Okay, I'm not excited about it. I really could care
Speaker 6: less about this one. I don't like the fact that
Speaker 6: they've paired Jay White up with anyone. I think Jay
Speaker 6: White is outstanding by himself. I'm tired of kind of
Speaker 6: seeing him always grouped in with somebody. He should be
Speaker 6: left to do his own thing, and I would much
Speaker 6: rather see a title defense by Moxley. But at this point,
Speaker 6: I'm starting to think that mox actually lost that championship belt.
Speaker 6: He is not carrying it around anywhere. I think he
Speaker 6: misplaced it somewhere. And the reason they haven't had any
Speaker 6: any matches for it is because he can't find the
Speaker 6: damn thing. So that's my two cents.
Speaker 1: That's an interesting theory.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's missing. He lost it at the airport.
Speaker 1: Something happened to it, the briefcase or whatever that is
Speaker 1: just there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, like you know, he maybe he tells Tony Kahan
Speaker 6: he can't find the key, you know, like Tony's like,
Speaker 6: let me see the belt. Oh, I can't find the key.
Speaker 6: I misplaced the key and the belts, you know, like
Speaker 6: in baggage check somewhere. So it's my suspicion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, anybody else with thoughts on this match?
Speaker 4: Okay, I want to piggyback on what that just said
Speaker 4: that I think that I think they might.
Speaker 5: Be getting a whole new belt completely. I think that Tony's.
Speaker 4: Gonna, you know, bring out a whole.
Speaker 5: New world Championship belt designed.
Speaker 4: That's why I think it is, and that whoever beats
Speaker 4: Mark so he is gonna get that new belt.
Speaker 1: Okay, Red, I think you you were chiming in.
Speaker 7: I want to see j White use a boomerang in
Speaker 7: this match. Exs.
Speaker 8: Yes, I agree with Max.
Speaker 7: I think the gimmick here is going to be the
Speaker 7: title was like either destroyed or thrown in the Ohio river,
Speaker 7: and we're gonna get a new belt. H Otherwise, opening
Speaker 7: that case will be a cathartic moment. I suppose that's
Speaker 7: because you like the babyface who wins, or you hate
Speaker 7: John Moxley.
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, I think gonna win.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be more to this match than
Speaker 1: what is being presented. And again, nobody has brought this up,
Speaker 1: and I've mentioned this weeks in a row, and this
Speaker 1: is kind of like a very strange phenomenon because people
Speaker 1: have forgotten about it. But you've got John Moxley and
Speaker 1: Claudio Castignoli going against Adam Copeland and Jay White. This
Speaker 1: is gonna be a brutal match. This is gonna be
Speaker 1: a very physical match. People who have been mentioning that
Speaker 1: John Moxley hasn't bled in weeks and weeks and weeks
Speaker 1: and weeks and weeks, well, I think he's definitely gonna
Speaker 1: bleed in this match. I think that it's gonna really
Speaker 1: be Copeland and Moxley facing off against each other and
Speaker 1: beating the crap out of each other. But what I
Speaker 1: think and what I really am wondering if this is
Speaker 1: going to happen, is again we forgot about Christian Cage
Speaker 1: and the fact that he has that open contract, and
Speaker 1: if John Moxley gets the crap beaten out of him,
Speaker 1: win or lose, we may see Christian Cage come to
Speaker 1: the ring and try to cash in and then what
Speaker 1: happens there. I mean, Copeland's going to be there, his
Speaker 1: whole partner. There's all kinds of things can happen. That's
Speaker 1: one of the weaknesses right now of aw is that
Speaker 1: Christian Cage has been walking around with this contract for
Speaker 1: how many months now and nothing has been done with
Speaker 1: it to the point where has happened just now and
Speaker 1: what's happened again, This has happened several weeks in a row,
Speaker 1: and we've been talking about this. Nobody is even remembering
Speaker 1: Christian Cage and his involvement and you know, and his
Speaker 1: prospective involvement in this. So that's where I'm my interest
Speaker 1: in this match lies is not necessarily in the match.
Speaker 1: Because of the five matches, this to me is by
Speaker 1: far the weakest match with the least amount of uh
Speaker 1: well for me like interest having interest. But if Christian
Speaker 1: Cage does come out, then it could be a talking point.
Speaker 1: It could be must CTV.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 2: I think the problem with everybody for getting Christian Cage
Speaker 2: is is because no one takes him as a legitimate contender.
Speaker 2: I mean, everybody knows he's gonna come out, and he's
Speaker 2: either gonna come out and waste the title match against
Speaker 2: Moxley or he's gonna have to he's gonna use it
Speaker 2: when somebody finally beats Moxley to try to steal their spotlight.
Speaker 2: I don't take him as a I mean literally, he's
Speaker 2: had this title shot for how long nine months, almost
Speaker 2: a year, and the only thing you get using it
Speaker 2: for is beating somebody over the head with the case.
Speaker 2: That's the only thing he's used it for. They don't
Speaker 2: use the the the uh the patriarchy very much. They're
Speaker 2: they're stuck in a loop with doing little minor stuff.
Speaker 2: So it's almost as if this part of the story
Speaker 2: has become nothing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, would it be funny if Christian Cage
Speaker 1: does come out with this contract and that that case
Speaker 1: that it's being held in is so beat up that
Speaker 1: he can't get it open, and therefore he can't get
Speaker 1: the shotless.
Speaker 6: He's going through so much as it is.
Speaker 4: And just do it so you open the case physically.
Speaker 3: I think so.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got the contract in there that's supposedly Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, everybody knows.
Speaker 4: I would have figured Tony true, like the money in
Speaker 4: the bank, that you don't have the case.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would exactly what Brin said.
Speaker 1: That would be I'd just say that it would be
Speaker 1: funny if that was the case. You know that that
Speaker 1: he was supposed to be able to take out the
Speaker 1: contract and hand it to the referee, but he can't
Speaker 1: get the case open. I think that would be.
Speaker 2: That would be hilarious.
Speaker 4: Then you just get the rest the case like they
Speaker 4: do want to.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I'm talking about for humor sake. I'm
Speaker 1: not being serious.
Speaker 3: I'm just being.
Speaker 2: Would be hilarious. He throw a little tantrum. You have
Speaker 2: a Christian kan trim in the middle of the ring,
Speaker 2: we would have it.
Speaker 6: That would do Christian cage. And he's had a lot
Speaker 6: of moments.
Speaker 4: This would be its beats marks. And he tries to
Speaker 4: open the case that the title is supposedly in and
Speaker 4: there's nothing in there.
Speaker 5: He opens a covenant. He opens up and there's a
Speaker 5: bunch of dust.
Speaker 1: And it kills everybody Like Indy added Jones and uh
Speaker 1: waiters are lost time.
Speaker 6: This story once and a while.
Speaker 3: Everywhere.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like five months ago when when MAXI was doing
Speaker 4: that whole you know German thing that would have been
Speaker 4: a fun Yeah.
Speaker 1: Did D have something to say here?
Speaker 7: If Christian Cage beats it or Cash is in his
Speaker 7: contract at Grand Slam beats Moxley for the title and
Speaker 7: we get Adam Copeland versus Christian Cage, your revolution. JF
Speaker 7: was right, this is all elderly wrestling.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna be honest with you. Uh, I agree
Speaker 1: with you. You know I I said it in the
Speaker 1: past and I'll say it again. I like a W's
Speaker 1: the younger kids, you know, I call them kids, the
Speaker 1: people that are that are a W originals and the
Speaker 1: ones that had toiled in the in the Indies without
Speaker 1: getting a proper shot l I swear and AW has
Speaker 1: put them on TV and made them recognizable, I guess
Speaker 1: is the best way.
Speaker 3: Of putting it.
Speaker 1: That's what I watch AW for AW four. I don't
Speaker 1: watch AW to see Adam Copeland. Even this is nothing
Speaker 1: against Adam Copeland, and I do enjoy seeing Adam Copland
Speaker 1: and Christian Cage at John Moxley. I do enjoy watching them,
Speaker 1: but that's not why I watched the shows. I watched
Speaker 1: the shows for Darby Allen and Julia Hart, you know,
Speaker 1: and even for guys like Jay White, Max Caster, Anthony Bowens.
Speaker 1: Those are the people I want to see. You see
Speaker 1: what I'm saying there, And I agree with you the
Speaker 1: all elderly wrestling, like m J. Epp said, Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a point where you just gotta say, you know, hey,
Speaker 1: Adam Copland came out a few months ago saying that
Speaker 1: he there for the rest of his time. He's retiring
Speaker 1: with AAW in a couple of years. We brought this
Speaker 1: up last last week. You know, hey, where do we
Speaker 1: see AAW five years from now? Well, the fact of
Speaker 1: the matter is is that Adam Copland is not going
Speaker 1: to be with AAW five years from now. FDR isn't
Speaker 1: going to be with AW five years from now. Chances
Speaker 1: are none of those guys are going to be wrestling,
Speaker 1: and there's others Jeff Jarrett probably won't be wrestling anymore,
Speaker 1: you've got to do a changing of the guard. And
Speaker 1: when you do the changing of guard, you've got to
Speaker 1: use those older wrestlers, those all elderly wrestlers to put
Speaker 1: over the young guys that are going to carry the
Speaker 1: company forward.
Speaker 6: You didn't mention that Chris Jericho probably won't be there
Speaker 6: in five years. Do you think he's going to hold
Speaker 6: on until his last breath.
Speaker 1: I think Chris Jericho will be out there whacking people
Speaker 1: with a walker.
Speaker 2: He'll be the twenty time rest champion.
Speaker 1: Let me put it this way, I will die before
Speaker 1: Chris Jericho will stop wrestling.
Speaker 4: I think Chris Virago will die and be reincordinated and
Speaker 4: his ghost will wrestle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, darbiolog is gonna do a coffin match
Speaker 1: and Christ Jericho is going to be in it. You
Speaker 1: know that's But anyway, let's move on because we've got
Speaker 1: four more matches to go, and I don't really know
Speaker 1: the order to go with, but so I'm going to
Speaker 1: save the three of the five matches are actually title matches,
Speaker 1: So I'm going to go with the non title match.
Speaker 1: And look, I mean, this is an interesting match. He
Speaker 1: got Will Osprey and Kenny Omega against Kenoski Takeshta, that
Speaker 1: gorgeous human being and Kyle Fletcher, the hometown boy. This
Speaker 1: match could be fun. I expect it to be probably
Speaker 1: arguably maybe the match of the night match your contender,
Speaker 1: definitely a tag team match at your contender. I see
Speaker 1: a lot of big things happening for this match. What
Speaker 1: do you think about this match and any predictions?
Speaker 2: This is a tough one because, I mean, if you
Speaker 2: have to catch it in company win, I can see
Speaker 2: that happening that way. Extends a little bit. The rivalry
Speaker 2: with don kallis family for those guys. But it's just
Speaker 2: gonna depend on where they want to go after this.
Speaker 2: I mean, they could keep them as a team, they
Speaker 2: could have this be the only time these two team
Speaker 2: up in Ostprey and Omega. I mean, it definitely has
Speaker 2: connotations to being the greatest match in the night for
Speaker 2: damn sure. But it's definitely going to be a fast paced,
Speaker 2: high action match.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys all impress me. Even though Kenny
Speaker 1: Omega is kind of like on the all elderly side,
Speaker 1: he's got that aura still, I mean he's not one
Speaker 1: of those we're watching Kenny Omega because out of respect
Speaker 1: for what he's done in the past. Can't We're watching
Speaker 1: Kenny Omega because of what he can do right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think anybody would say even though
Speaker 1: Kenny Mega is definitely a veteran, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: think they consider him on the elderly side, and because
Speaker 1: of his diverticulitis and his struggles with that. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's definitely a sentimental favorite, even for non fans.
Speaker 2: You know who takes the pin? Yeah, you've got You've
Speaker 2: got four the you got four, the best in the
Speaker 2: in aw going up in this match. And I can
Speaker 2: see a bad thing for any of them taking the pin.
Speaker 2: And I can see the benefits of of I can
Speaker 2: see the benefits of Osprey beating Uh. Yeah, I can
Speaker 2: see Osprey taking getting the pin over.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: I can't Kyle Well his picture.
Speaker 1: Fletcher, the picture, the picture is right there.
Speaker 2: I was seeing it, I was saying it. I just
Speaker 2: couldn't think of a name, wouldn't come.
Speaker 1: Jeez.
Speaker 2: I can see this breaking down into to ketch the
Speaker 2: versus Omega and Fletcher versus Osprey and a lot of it.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: It's definitely going to be one of those matches that
Speaker 2: you just sit back and go.
Speaker 3: Wow, yeah, well this is a good time to break in.
Speaker 1: And you know, you know, for all the kids listening
Speaker 1: to this and listening to Sutton Follovers, Tom Cesana sat
Speaker 1: on Wednesday night just to you know, just to say,
Speaker 1: crack as whack, don't do it kids.
Speaker 2: There you go, that's just getting old, that's all.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's part of the all elderly wrestling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you need to be mean well. And I am.
Speaker 2: Communire with the Jeff Jarretts and the and the and
Speaker 2: the and those guys. I don't know if I want
Speaker 2: to be in that group.
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is that Sun and I are
Speaker 1: at the age where we could look at guys like
Speaker 1: John Moxley and Adam Copeland and and even like Dustin
Speaker 1: Rhoades and stuff, you know, and not all not for
Speaker 1: each of them, but for most of them, we can say,
Speaker 1: oh those kids, yeah boys, yeah, those I remember when
Speaker 1: I saw them growing, you know, when I I saw them,
Speaker 1: you know, when they were sixteen years old wrestling gonna
Speaker 1: in a barnyard or something. Yeah. But anyway, yeah, this
Speaker 1: this match is this match is It's weird with this
Speaker 1: match because It doesn't really matter who wins and who
Speaker 1: takes the pin. What matters in this match is that
Speaker 1: the expectations for it to be just a really entertaining match.
Speaker 1: Would you guys agree with that?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I would agree, Yeah for sure.
Speaker 1: All Right, well let's move on because we now have
Speaker 1: the three title matches, and let's start with Mercedes Monet
Speaker 1: versus Harley Cameron for the TBS Championship. We're in Australia.
Speaker 1: Harley Cameron's from austral Australia. She's getting a huge push
Speaker 1: right now. Do you see any chance that Harley Cameron
Speaker 1: beats Mercedes Money in this match? Anybody?
Speaker 6: Oh? I think she could pull out a surprise win
Speaker 6: just for the heck of it, But realistically I don't
Speaker 6: see her beating Mercedes.
Speaker 3: Well, now let me ask you a question.
Speaker 1: If, by chance, Harley Cameron does win this match, would
Speaker 1: you kind of think that Mercedes Monet would exercise her
Speaker 1: rematch clause for March ninth, the Revolution to win it back.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 6: I don't know, because Mercedes has a lot of belts,
Speaker 6: she's got a lot going on. You know, she might
Speaker 6: be angry, but I don't know if she'd be bothered
Speaker 6: that much. Maybe she'd be too humiliated to try to
Speaker 6: wrestle her again, you know, like the high fame thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah so I don't know, Okay, but Harley Cameron is over.
Speaker 4: She's pretty almost over person in aw right now. If
Speaker 4: they don't strike with Iron is Hot, this is not
Speaker 4: gonna happen again.
Speaker 5: And everyone's already tired of Mercedes.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say everyone are already tired of Mercedes. You
Speaker 1: may be tired of Mercedes, but not everyone is tired
Speaker 1: of Mercedes.
Speaker 2: They're gonna do what they've always done in this situation,
Speaker 2: and Harley's gonna get squashed. Her momentum is going to
Speaker 2: be crushed because they're not taking the belt off Mercedes yet.
Speaker 2: It's just not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Do whatever you think that there may be something that
Speaker 1: happens in this match where Harley Cameron is, for lack
Speaker 1: of better terms, screwed out of the win here, and
Speaker 1: that a rematch is set on behalf of Harley Cameron
Speaker 1: for Revolution.
Speaker 7: I think this is going to be competitive. I mean,
Speaker 7: this is her hometown crowd. This is as close as
Speaker 7: she's going to get to where she grew up at.
Speaker 7: I think this is going to be competitive. I think
Speaker 7: it's probably gonna end airly. I don't think there's gonna
Speaker 7: be any chicanery. I mean, Harley Cameron, like they've pointed out,
Speaker 7: has never won a television match until last two Saturdays ago.
Speaker 3: I mean one a match period.
Speaker 7: Okay, never won a mats period. So I mean this
Speaker 7: is a big you know, just the fact that she's
Speaker 7: on the card against Mercedes Money is a big deal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well don't for you also, you know, just for
Speaker 1: for reference, you know, during the Jericho Cruz, Harley Cameron
Speaker 1: did win did wrestle in two matches during the Jericho
Speaker 1: Cruz and won both matches. So she went from win
Speaker 1: list to three wins in a row. Now, so there
Speaker 1: you go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So.
Speaker 1: Mercedes Monet and Harley Cameron, this is an interesting match
Speaker 1: matchup because for her, So I think this is gonna
Speaker 1: be the shortest match of the night.
Speaker 3: I really do. Uh But but.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of story that could happen here. I
Speaker 1: really do think that this is one of the matches
Speaker 1: where their story that's gonna happen here. And after we
Speaker 1: talk about all three of the title matches, I do
Speaker 1: have something that I want to point out that may
Speaker 1: give away the winners of these matches. But let's move
Speaker 1: on to Buddy Matthews versus Kazuchika Okata. Yes, I know
Speaker 1: it's Kazushka, but I call him Kazuchika because I just
Speaker 1: like saying it.
Speaker 3: What do we think about this match?
Speaker 8: Buddy Matthew's gonna win in his home country. It's gonna
Speaker 8: be a good match though, Like it's the Rainmaker. He's
Speaker 8: amazing too, so it's gonna be a begger.
Speaker 5: It's gonna be really good. But he is a talented guy.
Speaker 5: He's a talented room worker.
Speaker 4: Octa is one of the best in New Japan history. Yeah,
Speaker 4: this match is going to be absolute fire. I will
Speaker 4: actually watch this match.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you guys a question.
Speaker 1: We have not seen Jack Perry, nor Matthew and Nicholas
Speaker 1: Jackson in quite a while. Do you think we may
Speaker 1: see them as part of this match? And by on
Speaker 1: all accounts, we can also see Brody King and Julie
Speaker 1: Hart the other members of the Hounds of l in
Speaker 1: this match as well. Do you think that may happen
Speaker 1: or do you think that this is going to be
Speaker 1: a straight up great match between Matthews, and Okada.
Speaker 4: Gilson, I want to kind of talk about that. I
Speaker 4: do think the Young Bucks and Jack Perry will show up,
Speaker 4: just not for that match. I think they'll they'll run
Speaker 4: in during uh Osprey and Omega versus.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I'm forgetting that.
Speaker 4: Last Callas. Guys, they're gonna interrupt that match, Omega and Os.
Speaker 4: We're gonna win that match. The Young Bucks are gonna
Speaker 4: come out with Perry beat them up, and we're gonna.
Speaker 5: Build, and we're gonna start that build.
Speaker 6: Do you give me my man's.
Speaker 5: Real quick?
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Uh, they're out.
Speaker 1: Mute. Okay, Retch try it again, because that keeps talking
Speaker 1: over you every single time he starts.
Speaker 7: Just debuted and an oh daddy, yeah five minutes ago maybe.
Speaker 5: Okay, oh yeah it's Tuesday.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, my adolences to all WWE fans. Just just put
Speaker 1: it that way because you got crap on your hands.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So who do you guys think win's this match? Between
Speaker 1: Buddy Matthews and because each Cocott, I know we've already
Speaker 1: had one person to say Matthews.
Speaker 2: I hope Matthews wins it. I'm not sure though, Uh,
Speaker 2: it would be a good way to get those guys
Speaker 2: off to a running start, you know, the hounds of
Speaker 2: Hell or getting somewhat of a push, and they're being
Speaker 2: used a lot more. So hopefully Ocado will lose, but
Speaker 2: who knows.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, anybody else with the thoughts on this match.
Speaker 7: I think Octa is gonna I think it's gonna be
Speaker 7: a good match. I guess's gonna be very close. But
Speaker 7: I think Okada's is uh, his opponent he will lose
Speaker 7: that title to is probably Kenny Omego.
Speaker 3: Yeah, now here's my thoughts.
Speaker 1: And I told I said earlier that I had something
Speaker 1: that I wanted to like reveal as something that may
Speaker 1: be telling about this. A few days ago we saw
Speaker 1: a first I believe it was the first promotional video
Speaker 1: for Revolution. I could be wrong. It's for one of
Speaker 1: the pay per views, all right.
Speaker 3: In that.
Speaker 1: Video was Tony Storm, was Mercedes Monet at Buddy Matthews,
Speaker 1: No Kazuchka Okada. So that being said, I kind of
Speaker 1: think that it's going to be Mercedes Monet winning against
Speaker 1: Harley Cameron. I do think that it's gonna be Tony
Speaker 1: Storm winning against MARII may and I think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be Buddy Matthews winning against Kazuska Akada. I really do
Speaker 1: believe that. So let's talk about Tony Storm and Mariah May,
Speaker 1: because this match is, well, it's Tony Storm and Mariah May.
Speaker 3: And I think that.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't be surprise me in the slightest that this
Speaker 1: was the main event of the show. It really wouldn't
Speaker 1: surprise me. I think it should be. I think it
Speaker 1: should be. With the work that these two ladies have done,
Speaker 1: I think that they deserve to be an event spot
Speaker 1: on the Grand Slam Show, especially Tony Storm. You know
Speaker 1: she's at home, So what do you guys think? Who
Speaker 1: do you think is going to come out as the
Speaker 1: winner in this match?
Speaker 2: Tony Storm. I mean they did the review you to
Speaker 2: show that she's been acting this whole time, which I
Speaker 2: think they should have waited until this match would have
Speaker 2: made it so much better. But I just don't see
Speaker 2: Mariah keeping the title.
Speaker 8: And it's Tony Storm's home country too, so.
Speaker 1: Right, But you know, by the same token, you've got
Speaker 1: March ninth, or not very long from now, revolution. If
Speaker 1: Mariah May uses some sort of sheackaderie to win this
Speaker 1: match and basically embarrassed Tony Storm, in her home country.
Speaker 1: That can still make for a good match for Revolution,
Speaker 1: because my concern is with if Tony Storm wins this
Speaker 1: match or Mariah May wins this match, who's next for Revolution?
Speaker 2: Either way? Either way, when win or lose, they're gonna
Speaker 2: have a rematch of Revolution. Isn't this going to be
Speaker 2: like this will be their second match overall? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: so you've got two down, You've got the rubber match
Speaker 2: to go. It'll be a Revolution regardless of if Tony
Speaker 2: wins the title or not. I still think that she's
Speaker 2: gonna win it, and then they'll have a rematch at
Speaker 2: Revolution and Tony will continue to hold the title.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean I mentioned that that uh that video, the
Speaker 1: close up video, close up interview that Tony Storm did
Speaker 1: with uh Rene Aprakat, And in that video she mentioned
Speaker 1: some wrestlers that she wanted to go against. And the
Speaker 1: women that she mentioned.
Speaker 3: Were the.
Speaker 1: Women that you probably wouldn't think that she would mention.
Speaker 1: You would think that you would mention Dondor Rosa or
Speaker 1: somebody like that. But she wanted to go against somebody
Speaker 1: that she's never faced before. I believe she mentioned Jamie Hayter.
Speaker 1: She mentioned Megan Bain and she mentioned Julia Hart, So yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think that if Tony Storm wins this match,
Speaker 1: I kind of doubt that we're going to see Oh
Speaker 1: and she mentioned Mercedes Monet as well. I kind of
Speaker 1: doubt that we can see a rematch at a Revolution.
Speaker 3: Well about that.
Speaker 2: The only thing that sucks about that is is new
Speaker 2: build time, because after Saturday, you've only got three weeks,
Speaker 2: not even I don't think it's three full weeks before
Speaker 2: that pay per view, So if he immediately goes into
Speaker 2: another program somebody, it won't have the same amount of
Speaker 2: time to build.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The other thing is is that if she wins this match,
Speaker 1: a Grand Slam, meaning Tony's Storm aw is not the
Speaker 1: company that takes belts away at the first pay per view,
Speaker 1: So you can't have a super Marque marquee match. You know,
Speaker 1: if she goes against Mecan Bain, Julia Hart, Jamie Hayter, whatnot,
Speaker 1: there is no chance that Tony Storm's gonna lose that
Speaker 1: belt that fast.
Speaker 2: And you can say the same thing if she gets
Speaker 2: the rematch, I mean, if she beats Mariah on Saturday,
Speaker 2: even if they do a rematch at Revolution Kansas are
Speaker 2: She's not losing to her, so you kind of give away.
Speaker 1: The whole you know. It's just one of those things.
Speaker 2: You can't win no matter what they do. The only
Speaker 2: way they can win is to have her is have
Speaker 2: Mariah cheat somehow, But I think that would taint the
Speaker 2: story they've been building. I mean, I can get it
Speaker 2: if she doesn't. I can see it happening, I guess,
Speaker 2: but I don't know. It's it's gonna be a tough
Speaker 2: one of those tough matches.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the biggest thing really for me is
Speaker 1: with this match is I think the best outcome for
Speaker 1: this match, the best outcome as far as storyline, would
Speaker 1: be from Mario Bay to somehow win this match, whether
Speaker 1: it's cleaner by cheating, and for Tony Storm to win
Speaker 1: at Revolution because, as you said something with if Tony
Speaker 1: Storm wins this match a Grand Slam, then you have
Speaker 1: a short turnaround time for.
Speaker 3: Revolution.
Speaker 7: Well, I mean, Marian May's only defended the belt at
Speaker 7: two of the four pay per views she's been the
Speaker 7: champion for. It's not like it's uncommon for the women's
Speaker 7: champion to not be on the card.
Speaker 2: This is true and I was just thinking the same
Speaker 2: thing about a cutter because you'd mentioned it. They had
Speaker 2: h they showed those three people in that video, But
Speaker 2: did he have the title when they didn't show Okada?
Speaker 2: Did was my brain's just dying Matthews? Did he have
Speaker 2: the title in the video?
Speaker 3: Or was he just shown because it was because he
Speaker 3: doesn't have the title? He never had the title.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't superpose a title on him.
Speaker 2: No, But I'm just thinking the same thing that Red saying.
Speaker 2: You know, it doesn't necessarily mean that he's gonna beat
Speaker 2: O Kata to be on that pay per view.
Speaker 1: No, I understand that, but I just thought it was
Speaker 1: kind of telling that they did not show Alkata in
Speaker 1: the Revolution or whatever it was. It could have been Dynasty,
Speaker 1: I don't know, uh promo video and they showed Buddy
Speaker 1: Matthews and they didn't show Okada, That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Whereas they showed Mercedes Bonet and they showed Tony Storm,
Speaker 1: but they did not show Mariam. If I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 1: they may have shown Miriam, but I'm not one sure. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: what's the next pay per view? After Revolution? March April?
Speaker 7: In April and then double nothing in.
Speaker 1: Many, Okay, because I do believe that we're destined and
Speaker 1: I've said this before, I do believe it forbidden door. Uh,
Speaker 1: we're going to see Tony Storm and Mayu Mayu iwatani
Speaker 1: Ah do battle. I think that's the plan. Uh as
Speaker 1: far as revolution goes, Yes, just because you're the AW
Speaker 1: Women's Champion does not mean that you're gonna be on
Speaker 1: the card. But it would be insanely stupid for AW
Speaker 1: not to include arguably their most popular wrestler, definitely the
Speaker 1: most popular women's wrestler. Areg'aly the most popular wrestler in
Speaker 1: AW and not put it on a paper? Put that
Speaker 1: person on a pay per view?
Speaker 7: So can we say the same thing about Brian May. She's,
Speaker 7: like I said, she's missed two pay per views. It's
Speaker 7: just done a disservice. They've really failed her as a champion.
Speaker 3: And I think I agree.
Speaker 1: Uh, And hey, you know, hey, if Tony Storm goes
Speaker 1: against that revolution, if Tony Storm goes against somebody other
Speaker 1: than Mariah May, that's fine. Maria May going against Mercedes Monette.
Speaker 1: I'd be there for that. So why not, you know,
Speaker 1: let's let's do it. Of course you can have you
Speaker 1: can have a three way at Revolution, you know, it's
Speaker 1: a w you can have a you know, a seventy
Speaker 1: two woman's I don't match. You know, it's AW does
Speaker 1: some weird stuff.
Speaker 3: So that's.
Speaker 5: I I.
Speaker 1: What is your I'm interested to hear what your hype
Speaker 1: level is for Grand Slam? Is this?
Speaker 8: Like?
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's basically a collision. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be on tape delay, so you're gonna have to avoid
Speaker 1: spoilers for Saturday night. It's not gonna start until approximately
Speaker 1: ten thirty Eastern Time, based on the graphic that was
Speaker 1: shown during collision last week. So it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: weird show because it's it's it's a collision. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be tape delayed, and it's gonna be at a really
Speaker 1: really weird start time as well. So does that kind
Speaker 1: of dampen your excitement for it? Or are you just Hey,
Speaker 1: let's let's watch the show and and enjoy them matches
Speaker 1: and avoid spoilers as much as you can.
Speaker 2: I think it could be one of the biggest non
Speaker 2: pay per view shows Aw's put on in a while.
Speaker 2: It has the potential.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's definitely got the good matches on it.
Speaker 1: I mean, hey, these matches are pretty dark good those
Speaker 1: are these are these matches even though there's only five
Speaker 1: of them, these are pay per view quality matches.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they could have made this a pay per
Speaker 2: view without it, without a doubt. I'm high for it.
Speaker 1: I mean, was it?
Speaker 2: Was it taped yesterday?
Speaker 1: Thought?
Speaker 2: Somebody told me that somewhere that they were keeping it
Speaker 2: last on Sunday, which would have been yesterday.
Speaker 1: No, they're they're doing the show on Australian time on Saturday.
Speaker 1: Uh taped, Yet they did tape Dynamite tonight to give
Speaker 1: people a chance to get over to Australia.
Speaker 8: You know that.
Speaker 2: Too many people posting about it wednesdaynamite this week? He
Speaker 2: is it Tuesday night or Wednesday night? They gotta stop
Speaker 2: doing that when they're talking about it. I don't know.
Speaker 2: My son who just my other son who lives not
Speaker 2: far from me. He has never really been an AW fan,
Speaker 2: but he now got Max. So he started watching it
Speaker 2: and he's like, is it Tuesday night this week or Wednesday?
Speaker 2: Says Wednesday. I said, don't listen to what they said
Speaker 2: on The announcers were saying, because they're they're being ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had to go on to the TV tonight
Speaker 1: and and see if they were showing it on Tuesday
Speaker 1: because eight, you're right, aw needs to stop doing this.
Speaker 1: They need to, you know, say what they did, because
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I think it was Adam Copland that said
Speaker 1: on Tuesday night, I'm going to kick your ass or
Speaker 1: something like that. I don't like Tuesday night. What is
Speaker 1: he talking about?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: They they are really bad. I mean I can remember
Speaker 2: back in the day when a w CW or WW
Speaker 2: were taking things. They never did that, and these guys
Speaker 2: really are bad at it, and they should say just
Speaker 2: stop talking about when they're taking it.
Speaker 6: Too.
Speaker 1: They did it the week before too, so uh or
Speaker 1: one of the weeks before, you know, they did it recently,
Speaker 1: let's put it that way. So yeah, So anyway, that's
Speaker 1: the show that is Ignition for tonight. I appreciate everybody,
Speaker 1: uh coming in Steve red Sutton and net to discuss well,
Speaker 1: to discuss Balachie Black, Ricky Starts. You just debuted at
Speaker 1: edxt Miro and the Grand Slam, so we will see
Speaker 1: you again tomorrow night. Read right after Dynamite for all
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