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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI A

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<v Speaker 1>six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>KF I am six forty Bill Handled here a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit under the weather.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, some of the stories we're looking at.

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<v Speaker 2>Volodimir Veolinsky said he's ready to give up his leadership

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<v Speaker 2>leadership if that will lead to a piece between Ukraine

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<v Speaker 2>and Russia. And you know, interestingly enough that when the

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<v Speaker 2>Elon Musk memo went out to the entire government of

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<v Speaker 2>the United States and the employee saying, tell us what

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<v Speaker 2>you have done in the past week, give me gives

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<v Speaker 2>five good things or five.

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<v Speaker 1>Things you have done.

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<v Speaker 2>Otherwise if you don't reply, that will be we will

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<v Speaker 2>interpret that as your resignation, which I don't quite get

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<v Speaker 2>how that's your resignation. But you've got some agency's are

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<v Speaker 2>saying don't bother, including the FBI under cash PTEL. It's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of interesting now the story the ongoing fight, if

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<v Speaker 2>you wanted to a fight, because this may be where

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<v Speaker 2>Trump and Gavin Newsom actually come together. Trump has said

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<v Speaker 2>he will help California. When they met and Trump landed

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<v Speaker 2>at lax and there was Gavenusom down at the bottom.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the tarmac, the bottom of the Astairs Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>They were both for the microphones, and Trump said, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to do whatever I can.

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<v Speaker 1>You are going to get the support of the US government.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, with that in mind, Gavin Newsom is asking Congress

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<v Speaker 2>to approve an additional forty billion dollars in aid to

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<v Speaker 2>help LA recover.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is no.

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<v Speaker 2>Doubt going to become the costliest natural disaster.

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<v Speaker 1>In US history.

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<v Speaker 2>And he sends a letter to the House Speaker, the

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<v Speaker 2>House Minority Leader Hakim Jeffries.

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<v Speaker 1>And others who were on the House.

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<v Speaker 2>Appropriations Committee, which is going to be responsible for allowing

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<v Speaker 2>payment or determining how much. And estimates of the economic

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<v Speaker 2>gloss have swelled more than two hundred and fifty billion dollars,

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<v Speaker 2>real estate loan thirty billion dollars. Sixteen thousand structures were destroyed,

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<v Speaker 2>thirty seven thousand acres of Pacific Palisades, Malibu, Pasadenia, of

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<v Speaker 2>course Altadena, and Newsom talks about what the money would

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<v Speaker 2>be used for rebuilding homes, infrastructure, business schools, churches, healthcare facilities,

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<v Speaker 2>and Newsom rights in his letter, make no mistake, Los

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<v Speaker 2>Angeles will use this money wisely.

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<v Speaker 1>This is an additional by the way.

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<v Speaker 2>An additional sixteen eighteen billion dollars from the FEDS FEMA,

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<v Speaker 2>which is intended to rebuild property and infrastructure debris cleanup

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<v Speaker 2>which FEMA is doing that is estimated at five billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>And the letter doesn't even go into the dispute over

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<v Speaker 2>the Trump administration threatening to oppose conditions on federal aid,

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<v Speaker 2>one of them being and it's already happened the water

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<v Speaker 2>coming down from northern California, because had the water come

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<v Speaker 2>down from the Delta, then the fires would have been

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<v Speaker 2>able to be put out, even though the water has

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<v Speaker 2>nothing to do with the water pressure on the amount

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<v Speaker 2>of water that Palisades and the other communities had at

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<v Speaker 2>hand or would have at hand. So what it does

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't mention a word about that. It just thanks the

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<v Speaker 2>President for fast tracking there were a debris removal, debris removal.

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<v Speaker 1>And offering a hands all hands on deck approach to recovery.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew some rights were entirely grateful, internally grateful, and

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<v Speaker 2>LA will continue to serve as a beacon to the

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<v Speaker 2>world and putting the city on solid ground in the

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<v Speaker 2>coming years is going to be hugely important as it

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<v Speaker 2>hosts the FIFA World Cup, the Olympics, and we will

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<v Speaker 2>be thriving for the century to come.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, will this get approved? Well?

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<v Speaker 2>It hinges on the willingness of Republican lawmakers to give funding,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, the House Appropriations Committee, which funds virtually everything,

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<v Speaker 2>and you have the Republicans that are in charge, and

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<v Speaker 2>they have they hate California. As Trump feels and talks,

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<v Speaker 2>Republicans in Congress follow and so some Republicans have suggested

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<v Speaker 2>linking the AID to imposing the water policy, new voter

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<v Speaker 2>ID requirements, helping the FEDS deal with finding and helping

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<v Speaker 2>deport immigration.

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<v Speaker 1>Straight out.

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<v Speaker 2>He's threatened to withhold federal funding the states that did

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<v Speaker 2>not support his agenda, and frequent critic of California new

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<v Speaker 2>some The bottom line is he hates California. California is

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<v Speaker 2>as anti Trump as any state in the Union. And

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<v Speaker 2>when you're anti Trump, it comes back fivefold tenfold. And

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<v Speaker 2>one of the possible conditions being discussed simply defunding the

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<v Speaker 2>California Coastal Commission, which regulates coastal development and protects public

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<v Speaker 2>be that beach excess. Now I want to say something about,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, stopping the educate, disbanding the Department of education.

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<v Speaker 2>A department was founded in nineteen seventy seven. Okay, how

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<v Speaker 2>are our kids reading scores now? How are our kids

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<v Speaker 2>mass scores now less than they were when the Department

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<v Speaker 2>of Education was founded? Is there an argument to be

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<v Speaker 2>had that that government has to look at itself?

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<v Speaker 1>Is there fraud? Is there a waste? You bet there is?

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<v Speaker 2>Did the Biden administration ignore that completely? Yes it did.

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<v Speaker 2>Did the Biden administration put more emphasis on LBGTQ rights

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<v Speaker 2>and immigration than it did on inflation, on the issues

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<v Speaker 2>that Americas actually care about the economy? Yes, it did.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the reasons that the election went to Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>So is there a method to the madness? The problem

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<v Speaker 2>is the amount and the speed of which is going on.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there are eighteen and nineteen year old kids

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<v Speaker 2>that work for Musks that are going through the various

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<v Speaker 2>departments and cleaning them out. One nineteen year olds reported

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<v Speaker 2>is an advisor, a senior advisor to Musk and doge.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's wild stuff, all right? Moving on, and

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<v Speaker 1>this has to do with solar power.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, when I built a Persian palace, I didn't put

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<v Speaker 2>in solar power, but as soon as it became sort

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<v Speaker 2>of available and became popular.

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<v Speaker 1>I immediately put in solar panels.

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<v Speaker 2>And because solar panels that they generate more power than

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<v Speaker 2>most houses use, the power goes back to the grid automatically,

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<v Speaker 2>and the power companies had to pay for that at retail.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that started going down down, and then it.

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<v Speaker 2>Turned out that it would pay at wholesale, and then

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<v Speaker 2>laws were passed that it they don't pay for any

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<v Speaker 2>that goes back. And then but first tier one like

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<v Speaker 2>my house had the Persian Palace, still were under the

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<v Speaker 2>old system. And then now laws are being considered that

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<v Speaker 2>you can forget all of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And so what is the bitch and the moaning that's

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<v Speaker 1>going on, Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Those people that don't have solar are arguing that they

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<v Speaker 2>are subsidizing people that do have solar.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care about selling back to the.

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<v Speaker 2>Grid at all, because I have a new solar system

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<v Speaker 2>and I get no credit for anything goes back to

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<v Speaker 2>the grid. I just like the idea that I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>paying for power. Now, I happen to be in the

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<v Speaker 2>most expensive utility in the United States, and I do

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<v Speaker 2>not pay for power used in the daytime, so I

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<v Speaker 2>charge my car for example, during the day, I only

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<v Speaker 2>turn my lights on during the day, which is very strange,

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<v Speaker 2>but I try to use the least amount of power

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<v Speaker 2>at night. But I bought a battery system too, and

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<v Speaker 2>right now it has some issues. So today you can't

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<v Speaker 2>buy a solar system without batteries. And the bottom line

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<v Speaker 2>is you don't use power from the grid. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>because of the battery I did initially, but in goes

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<v Speaker 2>the battery system, And so a bunch of ideas are

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<v Speaker 2>out there floating around where you have the utilities themselves arguing.

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<v Speaker 1>The subsidy doesn't make any sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you imagine utilities are arguing in favor of rate payers.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's where you talk about the fox guarding

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<v Speaker 2>the chicken house, the chicken coop, And it's true, it's true,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the case. And they're going in front of the PUC,

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<v Speaker 2>the Public Utilities Commission, which controls the amount of money

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<v Speaker 2>that power companies can charge. They can't get a rate

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<v Speaker 2>hike without the PUC saying absolutely. And the PUC just said, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>a rate hike simply to deal with the infrastructure, because

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<v Speaker 2>how much.

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<v Speaker 1>Of that you think went down?

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<v Speaker 2>So life is a changing And there is a report

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<v Speaker 2>from the Commission and the advocates who are in favor

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<v Speaker 2>of charging taxing solar roof recipients or solar rooftop installers

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<v Speaker 2>homes that have solar rooftop rooftops, and they're saying a

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<v Speaker 2>major reason for our fast rising electrical rates are in

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<v Speaker 2>fact solar power. Now, you would think that because everybody

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<v Speaker 2>is on solar power, rates would actually drop because.

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<v Speaker 1>There isn't as much demand.

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<v Speaker 2>And when there's no demand, what happens if you look

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<v Speaker 2>at economics, Sorry about that, I'm coughing through this. If

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<v Speaker 2>you look at the rules of economics, if you've ever

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<v Speaker 2>taken economics one oh one, when demand drops, guess what

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<v Speaker 2>else happens? Prices go down. It's the other way. And

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<v Speaker 2>the argument is those that don't are paying for those

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<v Speaker 2>that do. Those that do generally have more money. Solar

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<v Speaker 2>systems are pretty expensive. I mean a low of ten

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<v Speaker 2>twelve thousand dollars up to a high of well, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not even gonna mention how much my solar panels cost

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<v Speaker 2>at the Persian Palace.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it was insanity.

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<v Speaker 2>And the way you figure out the cost of a

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<v Speaker 2>solar system is the payback.

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<v Speaker 1>When does it break even?

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<v Speaker 2>And if it breaks even, at five or six years,

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<v Speaker 2>you've paid back the money you've invested. That's damn good.

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<v Speaker 2>If it takes eight or nine years, that's not bad.

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<v Speaker 2>If it takes fifteen years, you're already dead by the

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<v Speaker 2>time that this thing is paid off, and it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>make much sense. And then the issue do you lease

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<v Speaker 2>do you buy? If you lease, it's generally a twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five year lease which the new home buyer gets with

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<v Speaker 2>the house. My lease is three high LEAs. My lease

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<v Speaker 2>is three hundred and five dollars. That's what I pay

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<v Speaker 2>for energy, three hundred and five dollars a month. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>keep in mind I am in the most expensive utility

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<v Speaker 2>district in the country, So for me, three hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>five dollars is a bargain. I have a pool, I

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<v Speaker 2>use a lot of energy rechargeable batteries.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't want to go into why. You can

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<v Speaker 1>talk to my fiance about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Rechargeable batteries cost a fortune to run on electricity. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>here's something else that's not fun, and that has to

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<v Speaker 2>do with AI. Couple of years ago, chat GPT came out,

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<v Speaker 2>and who do you think is using it the most?

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<v Speaker 2>No surprise students, and they rely on chat GPT to

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<v Speaker 2>write essays because students hate essays and one of the

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<v Speaker 2>things about essays, the teachers want you to think instead

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<v Speaker 2>of just regurgitate.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Theoretically what essays are about. So guess what kids are cheating?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? What a shocker.

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<v Speaker 2>And teachers have responded because they're using chat gpt to

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<v Speaker 2>identify cheaters, and some have resorted to unreliable online checkers.

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<v Speaker 1>As opposed to chat GPT.

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<v Speaker 2>One university professor failed an entire class after the screening

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<v Speaker 2>tool he uses said that all of the students were

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<v Speaker 2>using chat GPT in his classroom. Others have hidden like

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<v Speaker 2>little text within the assignments instructing chatbooks to use the

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<v Speaker 2>word banana and frge sign in the when someone uses

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<v Speaker 1>Guess what teachers are losing.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a Pew Research Center study that was just done,

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<v Speaker 2>I tend to quote it. A quarter of thirteen to

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen year olds recently admitted they use chat ept to

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<v Speaker 1>That's double what it was a year earlier. I think

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<v Speaker 1>this thing isn't exploding now.

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<v Speaker 2>Cheating, I mean, who Number one doesn't cheat or try

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<v Speaker 1>Conor you ever cheated in homework? Of course you have, no,

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<v Speaker 1>Please suck it up. You're such a liar. And have

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<v Speaker 1>you ever cheated? Yes, no, cheating.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody knows what cheating is. Come on using other people's works. Plagiarizing,

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<v Speaker 1>In a mean way.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm I'm sorry. You cheating really benign? Well, cheating

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<v Speaker 2>theoretically is bad, and I'm gonna explain. And artificial intelligence,

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<v Speaker 2>these blots have become ubiquitous and ubiquitous and capable. And

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<v Speaker 2>now the researcher saying, is this technology affecting how we

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<v Speaker 1>That's the issue.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes us think less, it makes us not think.

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<v Speaker 2>So last week, a little interesting here, Bill, is that

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<v Speaker 2>the teacher, in order to filter to see if they're

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<v Speaker 2>using AI, has to use an AI filter. No, that's

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<v Speaker 2>different because that's not a question of cognitive thinking. That's

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<v Speaker 2>simply a question of trying to find teachers. Well, but

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<v Speaker 2>now they have to be But I don't understand. So

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<v Speaker 2>last week researchers at Microsoft and Cardnegie Mellon provided evidence.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the evidence offloading our brains to AI system. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>it lowers the ability to use our brain. There were

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<v Speaker 2>three hundred nineteen quote knowledge workers people working in computer science, education,

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<v Speaker 2>business administration, and found that the use of AI was

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<v Speaker 2>associated with lower levels of critical thinking. I remember well

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<v Speaker 2>the bar, for example. When I took the bar, wanted

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of critical thinking. I mean, there was no

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<v Speaker 2>way around it. They want to know that. People want

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<v Speaker 2>to think. Same thing with a lot of essays that

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<v Speaker 2>you write in school. What happens is workers who use that,

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<v Speaker 2>students who use that are less likely to engage their brains.

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<v Speaker 2>GENAI tools appeared to reduce the perceived effort required for

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<v Speaker 2>critical thinking. The researchers noted it used improperly cheating. For example,

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<v Speaker 2>tech can and results in the deterioration of cognitive facilities,

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<v Speaker 2>and reliance on it leaves our cognitive muscles.

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<v Speaker 1>Atrophied, unprepared.

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<v Speaker 2>If we don't think, we don't use those brain muscles.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know that's neurologically kind of insane, but that's

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<v Speaker 2>a reality. And so has it happened before? It goes

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<v Speaker 2>back to Socrates? Huh. Socrates feared that reliance on writing

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<v Speaker 2>writing itself interfere with our memories and led to a

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<v Speaker 2>real surface level understanding of important arguments pocket calculator. Remember

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<v Speaker 2>the nineteen seventies panic, Oh my god, students aren't going

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<v Speaker 1>Well, guess what.

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<v Speaker 2>Students don't learn math and we do just fine because

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<v Speaker 1>Search engines man.

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<v Speaker 2>That led to a lot of issues digital and we

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<v Speaker 2>we do is look them up. All we do is

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<v Speaker 2>put in search words, like I just did with the

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<v Speaker 2>pope pope joan, a woman pope and the do they

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<v Speaker 2>now check that.

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<v Speaker 1>A woman that it's a man who is pope by

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but all you have to do is look it up,

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<v Speaker 2>which I did, Balls, Pope, Pope Joan, election of Pope.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's all there. But here's the.

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<v Speaker 2>Difference, as they point out, all of those is very

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<v Speaker 2>different because it allows us to store information. AI promises

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<v Speaker 2>to think on our behalf. There is the difference, and

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<v Speaker 2>what are they going to do about it? Well, here's

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<v Speaker 2>the problem is that people who hate AI hate limiting AI.

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<v Speaker 1>No one wants AI, that doesn't that's the whole purpose.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the authors of the study says, humans appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>comfort and if you have a tool that takes difficult

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<v Speaker 2>what happens we use it? Look at Pope Joan. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let me start with I do not hang with a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people, very very few people I socialize with.

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<v Speaker 1>Neil. Do I socialize with you? Probably more than anybody else? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I do. Another person, Well, let me go through it. Cono.

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<v Speaker 1>Do we socialize? No? Correct? And do we socialize now? Also? Correct?

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Monks do we socialize? I've asked you, that's correct,

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<v Speaker 2>Someone I do socialize with is Jim Kinney. Jim and

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<v Speaker 2>I hang and one of the things we talk about

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<v Speaker 2>about the health system and how broken it is.

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<v Speaker 1>And he comes from a doctor's viewpoint.

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<v Speaker 2>People just don't trust doctors anymore, not the way I

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<v Speaker 1>To I still do. They're wary of the healthcare system

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to make.

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<v Speaker 2>Us feel better and cure us, but when it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>because we have more diseases, not that we have more diseases,

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<v Speaker 2>we have recognized and discovered more diseases and more drugs,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's just so complicated that we want answers and

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<v Speaker 2>we want them now, and if the doctor doesn't give

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<v Speaker 2>it to us, we go to the web WebMD for example,

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<v Speaker 2>then see I need surgery, No you don't. Or you

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<v Speaker 2>do need surgery, no I don't. Here's what you should try.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's a supplement. It's not the same. So we've always

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<v Speaker 2>relied on doctors for or pain and life saving decisions.

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<v Speaker 2>People are less confident now we think doctors just don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's a reason for that. Do doctors care less well?

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<v Speaker 2>People going to medical school, actually, I think are more

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<v Speaker 2>nearly as great as it used to be. The problem

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<v Speaker 2>is is that doctors are so stressed.

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<v Speaker 1>They see so many people.

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<v Speaker 2>Case in point Jim, when someone goes when he goes

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't sit down.

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<v Speaker 2>bay to er bay for twelve hours without stopping. Lunch

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<v Speaker 2>is grabbing a sandwich and still walking and going. So

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<v Speaker 2>the other reason is that we don't have enough doctors.

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<v Speaker 2>We certainly don't have enough. In turn us we're getting older,

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<v Speaker 2>we have more chronic condition.

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<v Speaker 1>We need more treatment. We need more prescription drugs.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the average an older adult takes four daily medications.

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<v Speaker 1>I must take eight or nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty percent of people on medicare see five or more

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<v Speaker 1>And here's the other pain in the ass.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have a pain there, every time you see

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<v Speaker 2>a new doctor, you have to retell.

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<v Speaker 1>Your story over and over again. And I mean that

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<v Speaker 1>happens to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Where I go for any treatment, any numdic medication, he

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<v Speaker 2>goes through the whole list. The nurse or the tech

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<v Speaker 2>will spend fifteen minutes with you or with me going

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<v Speaker 2>through the list. And so we're all, every one of

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<v Speaker 2>us think the healthcare is broken.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there an answer?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>Are we going to think less of doctors? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think medicine is getting better, but only for those

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<v Speaker 2>of us to have really good insurance, you know, for

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<v Speaker 2>folks to say we have the best medical system in

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<v Speaker 2>the world. Yeah, go to Appalachia, go to Squirrel Hollow,

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<v Speaker 2>where the nearest clinic is one hundred miles away, and

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<v Speaker 2>tell them how great our medical system is. Just want

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<v Speaker 2>to make it feel better. Okay, this is KFI A

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