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<v Speaker 2>911, what are you reporting? We got someone or something

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<v Speaker 2>crawling around out here.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you see what it was?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it a person or an animal?

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<v Speaker 3>I can't tell.

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<v Speaker 2>All I know is that my sensor light came on

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<v Speaker 2>and I just happened to glance and see this thing

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<v Speaker 2>running across the yard. A good-sized man or something that

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<v Speaker 2>looks like a man. I don't know what it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Back in 2005, we set out with one goal, to

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<v Speaker 2>give voice to the mystery and those who pursue it.

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<v Speaker 2>Sasquatch Experience Podcast has been your go-to source for serious

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<v Speaker 2>Bigfoot discussions. where we separate fact from folklore, always grounded

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<v Speaker 2>in research and respect. We've interviewed eyewitnesses, experts, and skeptic alike,

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<v Speaker 2>because understanding Bigfoot isn't just about belief. It's about the journey.

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<v Speaker 2>Nearly two decades later, we're still chasing shadows and sharing stories.

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<v Speaker 2>The search never stopped. Welcome to the Sasquatch Experience.

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus Christ, you better.

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<v Speaker 2>Sheriff?

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<v Speaker 4>See ya!

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<v Speaker 3>Hello? Get somebody out here.

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<v Speaker 2>And folks, we apologize for the delay tonight as we

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<v Speaker 2>had an unusual situation there with the audio. I know myself,

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Arner, Henry are here, Baker's there. But whether we

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<v Speaker 2>can hear him or not, I don't know. He can

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<v Speaker 2>still wave and pantomime and everything else he'd like to do. But, well, easy.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what that was. And hopefully nobody else

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<v Speaker 2>did either. Folks, I'm Sean, the Fork Shop Forker. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>your host here on the Sasquatch Experience. And tonight we've

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<v Speaker 2>got a great show for us. We're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>talking about Bigfoot and wildfires. And quite the point of

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<v Speaker 2>topic right now with, as we've all kind of dealt

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<v Speaker 2>with these in one form or another, Baker. Rather, you're

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<v Speaker 2>getting the smoke from the wildfires coming through your state

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<v Speaker 2>Providence locale. I think the air quality is diminished for

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<v Speaker 2>quite a few of us there for a little while,

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<v Speaker 2>but it seems to have started to clear up a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit. But interesting topic nonetheless. But before we get started, guys, one,

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<v Speaker 2>how the hell are you doing? It's great to see

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<v Speaker 2>you all this week.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 5>Blay.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, Henry. How are you doing, buddy?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm good. Like I said, I can't complain.

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<v Speaker 2>We can. We don't care, but you can complain. Henry,

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<v Speaker 2>our 20th year of Sasquatch experience, by the way.

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<v Speaker 5>20 years.

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<v Speaker 2>20 years.

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<v Speaker 6>Can you believe we've been together that long?

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, we've been together longer. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>We're like a married couple.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 6>Baker's got the snaps, I guess. All right. I was

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<v Speaker 6>testing the mic.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, there we go.

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<v Speaker 6>The Canadians took my voice when they added the smoke.

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<v Speaker 5>Blame Canada.

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<v Speaker 2>We've gone back to the blog talk radio days a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit with the technical issues tonight. You know, everybody's

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<v Speaker 2>using a different streaming platform and we've stayed here. We

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<v Speaker 2>were stream yards and we moved to stream labs and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's any better, but nonetheless, I

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<v Speaker 2>think we were able to get it started. And of course,

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<v Speaker 2>we have our good listeners in the chat. Folks, we

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<v Speaker 2>always depend on you to tell us how we're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>We got our producer, Brian Corbett, hanging around. One of

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<v Speaker 2>our number one super fans, Jay Charlotte. Good to see

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<v Speaker 2>Jay here. And of course, Mr. Scott Dieterle, our man

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<v Speaker 2>of the hour, man of the power, always supporting us

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<v Speaker 2>no matter what we do, where we go. He's there

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<v Speaker 2>in the mix letting us know how we're doing. And

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<v Speaker 2>we appreciate each and every one of our supporters greatly.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm being told to pump up the jams. Pump

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<v Speaker 2>it up. Pump it up. There we go. All right.

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<v Speaker 2>And Matt, man, I know it's been a day for you, buddy.

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<v Speaker 2>How you doing?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm doing good. I'm doing good. It was a rough

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<v Speaker 4>day at work, but we got through it. And, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>just looking forward and... I left for work today. I

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<v Speaker 4>had the heat on in my truck.

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<v Speaker 2>In the 60s here.

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<v Speaker 4>When I left this morning.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was beautiful. And you know what?

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<v Speaker 4>When that weather starts to cool, there's all sorts of

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<v Speaker 4>animals that are on the move.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, sir.

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<v Speaker 4>And this is when we generally start getting good reports

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<v Speaker 4>between August through November.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>Now is the time, and I'm pretty much all set

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<v Speaker 4>to do some backcountry exploring this fall.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, Matt, like I said, we've had no

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<v Speaker 2>shortage of reports since the Central PA Bigfoot Conference, our festivals.

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<v Speaker 2>At least a dozen reports have come in. And we

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<v Speaker 2>had one of the newest members of what I'm calling

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<v Speaker 2>the Sasquatch Experience Research Team, Brianna, who was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>keeping us abreast of that sighting report that came in

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<v Speaker 2>for the gentleman we're calling Randall, she actually went on

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<v Speaker 2>site and did an investigation. And I'll tell you guys,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to have a full workup on that probably

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<v Speaker 2>next week to the listeners. What we're trying to do

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<v Speaker 2>on days where we're opposite having a show, Mondays we're opposite,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to put in one of the sightings we've

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<v Speaker 2>investigated and kind of get some of the information out

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<v Speaker 2>there to kind of keep you guys engaged and titillated

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<v Speaker 2>with what's going on here at the Sasquatch Experience. Because

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<v Speaker 2>keep in mind, We're not just a podcast. We're an

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<v Speaker 2>investigation service. And we go out there and we take

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<v Speaker 2>all these claims seriously. And we go out and provide

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<v Speaker 2>it with excellent, you know, just top notch investigations. We're skilled.

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<v Speaker 2>We have people we network. So if we can't get

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<v Speaker 2>out there in a timely fashion, be rest assured, whoever

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to pass you off to is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a qualified person. We feel that someone's going to

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<v Speaker 2>take your report and be able to treat it with

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<v Speaker 2>as much seriousness as we would.

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<v Speaker 4>So.

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<v Speaker 2>They have our stamp of approval, hence the Sasquatch Experience

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<v Speaker 2>Research Team. And I'll be glad to get a workup.

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<v Speaker 2>Brianna said I had full permission to post it. And Matt,

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<v Speaker 2>you and I will work on that as we continue

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<v Speaker 2>to work on our book, A Loose and Proof, coming

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<v Speaker 2>to you soon at some point.

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<v Speaker 5>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm done talking there for a minute. Go ahead, Matt.

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<v Speaker 2>Finish off where you were. It got cool. And then

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<v Speaker 2>I went on. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So now, like I said, the reports are coming in. Uh, we're,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not just prints or, uh, howls or, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>your typical class B, but, uh, it was exciting to

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<v Speaker 4>actually hear from a class A sighting that, that literally

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<v Speaker 4>just occurred. Not only that, but going back to our

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<v Speaker 4>small town monsters, uh, production of investigation Bigfoot, that was

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<v Speaker 4>probably within 10 miles. of where the cabin was where

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<v Speaker 4>we were staying at. And unfortunately I had to leave

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<v Speaker 4>the night before, but, uh, or the day of when

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<v Speaker 4>you guys had all that, um, uh, you know, all those, uh, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>things going on. But, uh, it really, you know, if

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<v Speaker 4>you're looking at it on, on a, on a face value,

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<v Speaker 4>you have, you know, us going out there last fall, having,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, some sort of experiences out there. Then you have,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, now in August, you have a Class A sighting.

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<v Speaker 4>During the Marionville Forest County Bigfoot Festival, just a number

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<v Speaker 4>of locals came up to us and were telling us about,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the Class B encounters that they're having. We

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<v Speaker 4>do try to rule out a lot with the howls.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it an owl?

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<v Speaker 4>Is it a coyote? Now we've got to deal with

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<v Speaker 4>fisher cats here in Pennsylvania. Yes, sir. Could it be

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<v Speaker 4>one of those three? Which fox? Fox make that female

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<v Speaker 4>screaming sound. What does a fox sound?

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<v Speaker 3>There it is.

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<v Speaker 2>There it is. But we go through and.

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<v Speaker 4>And out of these reports that we get, I'd probably

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<v Speaker 4>say that there's about 15%, 15% to 20% that we

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<v Speaker 4>just can't say for sure. We can't say that it's

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<v Speaker 4>this or that or a coyote, an owl. And those

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<v Speaker 4>are the ones that are unexplained. And then when you

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<v Speaker 4>have other encounters, whether it's somebody seeing a print We

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<v Speaker 4>had a lot of people come up to us and

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<v Speaker 4>but then they had that odor that hit them. So

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<v Speaker 4>the odor is definitely something that is enticing as well

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<v Speaker 4>when it comes to the research for data. So we're

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<v Speaker 4>putting all that together. We have some great people that

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<v Speaker 4>we're working with. you know, we have, um, uh, you know, the, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>the data, um, a person from Georgia, we have Mondo, um,

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<v Speaker 4>and a few others that are, are putting all this,

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<v Speaker 4>data together to try to come up with some sort of, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, uh, some sort of, I can't say it's conclusive, but,

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<v Speaker 4>but just something there that, that we could say, okay, when, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>during August, uh, during this moon phase, during this weather pattern, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, this is more likely to appear. And speaking

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<v Speaker 4>of which, too, I was talking with the guys from

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<v Speaker 4>Study Sasquatch. Great, great guys. And Chris Spencer, in one

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<v Speaker 4>of his videos, had put out a really interesting hypothesis

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<v Speaker 4>about vocalizations, wood knocks. And he said, look at the

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<v Speaker 4>moon phase. And he thinks that when it's dark, when

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<v Speaker 4>the moon is in a new moon phase and it's

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<v Speaker 4>dark out, that these creatures probably are closer together when

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<v Speaker 4>they're on the hunt. When it's a full moon, when

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<v Speaker 4>it's a waxing crescent, waning crescent, and that light is

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<v Speaker 4>out there, that's when they're getting vocalizations, wood knocks and such.

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<v Speaker 4>And he believes that it may be from them being

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<v Speaker 4>more spread out, you know, because of the illumination factor.

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<v Speaker 2>That's something I've always hypothesized too, Matt, is that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think the allure of a full moon makes everything

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<v Speaker 2>spooky and exciting and whatnot. But I don't think it

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense for an animal that depends on the cover

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<v Speaker 2>of darkness to move to be so... Correct. active during

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<v Speaker 2>a full moon uh and then if you look at

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<v Speaker 2>the time of year like specifically you and i have

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<v Speaker 2>always said how our area is incredibly active from the

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<v Speaker 2>end of august through fall partner that with moon cycles

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<v Speaker 2>and what do you see when do we see the

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<v Speaker 2>most activity so that's what we're looking at and the

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<v Speaker 2>more and more we feed to mondo you know our

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<v Speaker 2>data guy the more and more he's able to uh

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<v Speaker 2>really put it together. And I told you at the

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<v Speaker 2>last festival we were at there and, uh, and, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>Sealand's Grove, Susquehanna Valley Mall, Gwen's event, uh, Gwen Purcell, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>he put that data out there for the public. And

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<v Speaker 2>I was like a kid in a candy shop. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't get enough of that. I had to keep

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<v Speaker 2>we know there's always room for error with data, right?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, because it's witness reports. It's not infallible. That

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<v Speaker 2>being said, still pretty good with what we've got. Bake,

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<v Speaker 3>One, I wanted to say that that was a really

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<v Speaker 3>good conference we had at the Susquehanna Mall. I liked

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of the speakers. Never let Mondo give you

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<v Speaker 6>Just going to put it out there.

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<v Speaker 3>One thing I would say is we also are looking

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<v Speaker 3>can't be a muskrat or it can't be something else.

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<v Speaker 3>The data isn't just 100% proving it has to be

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<v Speaker 3>a cryptid. It's proving that we don't know what it is,

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<v Speaker 3>but we definitely know it's not a woolly mammoth. I

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<v Speaker 3>think about it, the data they've been collecting, it's the

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<v Speaker 3>same data that I collect when I'm up at my

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<v Speaker 3>land or me and Forker go out for a stroll

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<v Speaker 3>or something like that. We get, okay, we heard a noise. Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 3>it can't be this, can't be this, can't be this.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the data you also need. We had a

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<v Speaker 3>become a cryptozoologist. I said, first of all, no. Go

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<v Speaker 3>outside and suck in nature. You know, go do some hikes,

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<v Speaker 3>some other stuff. I said, get an idea what nature

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<v Speaker 6>And there's a story to that. Yeah, we have firsthand

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<v Speaker 3>You know, the guy who couldn't watch, the guy who

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<v Speaker 6>Wasn't sure it was a skunk, but knew damn well

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<v Speaker 3>They're collecting is not only just proof there's something odd

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that's my on that. No, very good. Very good.

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<v Speaker 2>We do have a full episode here, though. We may

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<v Speaker 2>it's almost 20 after nine already. We'd be doing the

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<v Speaker 2>bullhorn advancements here. Vance is on assignment tonight, by the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Just a note, though, upcoming on September 12th, myself, James Baker,

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<v Speaker 2>Bigfoot and Bluegrass Festival in White Deer, Pennsylvania. I'll be speaking,

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<v Speaker 2>So you get a, uh, you get a, uh, at

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<v Speaker 2>least a twofer or a threefer for your money folks.

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<v Speaker 2>It's always a good time when we present together. We're,

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<v Speaker 2>we're very interactive. It's, it's a great time.

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<v Speaker 6>Usually there's wine taste.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a much better.

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<v Speaker 2>What's that Matt?

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<v Speaker 4>There's a much better chance that I will be attending.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, very good. That'll be exciting. Cause we mentioned whiskey.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh, I know, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the first one you've missed at the Central PA. And,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, but unfortunately.

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<v Speaker 5>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>We were bummed out, too. But I really, I just

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<v Speaker 2>sent my chair flying backwards because I really wanted you

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<v Speaker 2>to see Mondo's presentation. It was amazing. I had a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of fun at that. And anybody who was in attendance,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, likewise, enjoyed that part. Thunderbird.

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<v Speaker 4>I won an archery contest up in Elk County, so

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<v Speaker 4>I had to go up and get my $ 500 gift certificate. Money! Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>two cellular game cameras, an elk target for archery, and

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<v Speaker 4>an elk dartboard, which was actually pretty neat.

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<v Speaker 6>An elk target? Is it like full size?

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<v Speaker 5>Does it got the horns?

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<v Speaker 4>No, it's actually a third the size. It does have

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<v Speaker 4>the horns. James, I will get a picture for you

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<v Speaker 4>tomorrow and send it in our group chat.

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<v Speaker 2>A third-sized elk is still like, what, a deer target almost?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a little bit bigger than a deer target? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Those things aren't cheap.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the size of a deer.

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<v Speaker 5>No, they're not.

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<v Speaker 6>Those things aren't cheap, though. Wow, that's a good job.

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<v Speaker 3>That's better than what I got for my 20 years

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<v Speaker 3>at work.

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<v Speaker 2>And listen, guys, whenever we go somewhere as a team

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<v Speaker 2>and Baker and Matt either enter the contest or they raffle,

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<v Speaker 2>one of them always wins. Sometimes between the two of them,

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<v Speaker 2>they win almost everything. Oh, yes.

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<v Speaker 6>And there's anger.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>There it is.

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<v Speaker 6>We're like, did Baker play? And I'm like, hey, man,

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<v Speaker 6>I played.

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<v Speaker 2>Last week, a week and a half, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>really sad to me. Henry's announced his retirement from touring.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not going to be doing conferences anymore. Is that right, Henry?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Yeah, that's true. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, Henry, you've been doing them for how long?

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<v Speaker 2>Like 20, 25 years you've been going to these?

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<v Speaker 5>18 years. I went to 18 events. That's pretty, that's

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<v Speaker 5>pretty round number.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a pretty, that's a pretty rough number. And, uh, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to miss you at these Henry, but we

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<v Speaker 2>are going to get the cardboard cut out of you

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<v Speaker 2>there so people can still get their pictures taken.

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<v Speaker 4>I just want to interject.

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<v Speaker 5>Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>I do want to interject that there was somebody that

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<v Speaker 4>was asking about speakers for a national Bigfoot conference and

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<v Speaker 4>everyone's up there promoting themselves or promoting this person, that person.

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<v Speaker 4>And I, I put up there, I said, listen, I said,

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<v Speaker 4>if you're going to do a National Bigfoot Conference, you'd

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<v Speaker 4>need one of what I consider the big three in

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<v Speaker 4>Bigfoot historians. And that would be, number one, Todd Prescott.

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<v Speaker 4>Number two, Daniel Perez. And number three, our own Henry May.

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<v Speaker 4>And so hopefully they get a hold of you. So

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<v Speaker 4>if they offer this, come out to the National Conference.

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<v Speaker 4>Come out for that one. I think those are the

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<v Speaker 4>big three, I think, in the Bigfoot world today is Henry, Daniel,

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<v Speaker 4>and Todd.

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<v Speaker 2>No, Matt doesn't whore me out, Baker, because he ends

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<v Speaker 2>up going along with me. So it's not like we

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<v Speaker 2>always give people the bang for their buck out of us. But,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Matt, you and Les were.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't even get paid. I don't even get a billing.

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<v Speaker 2>No, and you don't know pay attention to verbal cues

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<v Speaker 2>either Matt and Les were featured on Eric Mental Investigates

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<v Speaker 2>Bigfoot Jim Thorpe that's out now posted on our Sasquatch

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<v Speaker 2>experience page go check it out I think you'll enjoy

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<v Speaker 2>it Matt tell us a little bit about filming that

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<v Speaker 2>experience how was that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well I wasn't too happy about it because I The

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<v Speaker 4>whole reason I was supposed to be there was to

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<v Speaker 2>And you know what?

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<v Speaker 4>We got into this gentleman from Jim Thorpe who had

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<v Speaker 4>August again. And it was so similar to one of

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<v Speaker 4>the reports that we got up in Luzerne County. which

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't that far away. It's, and it's part of the Lehigh, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>waterway system. And as the guys told me, I, I,

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<v Speaker 4>the hair was standing on the back of my, my neck.

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<v Speaker 6>Cause I, it was so similar to that experience.

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<v Speaker 4>So I ended up talking about that and completely forgetting

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<v Speaker 4>about the incident where the girl was washing dishes. And, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>she looks out the back window and there's a gorilla

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<v Speaker 4>staring at her. And then when she, uh, went to

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<v Speaker 4>tell her parents, uh, Uh, everyone ran out and there

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<v Speaker 4>was two big imprints, uh, in the, uh, mulch that

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<v Speaker 4>was up by the, uh, or the kitchen window and

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<v Speaker 4>the kitchen window is about six and a half feet

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<v Speaker 4>up from the ground. So obviously it was something pretty big. And, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, that was the encounter I wanted to talk

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<v Speaker 4>about and I totally forgot, but otherwise, Les did an

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<v Speaker 4>awesome job.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Les did an awesome job, uh, uh, telling you about

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<v Speaker 4>his encounters. We had, again, this gentleman who was riding

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<v Speaker 4>on the Lehigh Trail between Whitehaven and Jim Thorpe, where

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<v Speaker 4>he saw this creature. And that was a great experience.

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<v Speaker 4>So it was. It was fantastic. But man, I wish

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<v Speaker 4>I would have been able to Uh, tell that encounter

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<v Speaker 4>about that, about that young lady that had seen the

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<v Speaker 4>gorilla face. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know what though? And it happens when we

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<v Speaker 2>get involved in these things and you know it because

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<v Speaker 2>it happens to us on the reg. We're in there.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to talk about something else like tonight's show.

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<v Speaker 2>And we ended up talking about something more that's pressing

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<v Speaker 2>on our minds.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>And, uh, even happened when we were filming a little bit, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>when we were doing the investigation, Bigfoot deal, uh, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's just part of it. You get into

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<v Speaker 2>a good conversation, you get into a good rhythm, and

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<v Speaker 2>then everything else goes out the window. But while we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about Small Town Monsters, there's a slight segue. August 30th,

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<v Speaker 2>something that if you're a fan of Bigfoot, everybody needs

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<v Speaker 2>to pay attention to. Go to Small Town Monsters on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 2>Science and Sasquatch, the legacy of Jeff Meldrum. will be

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<v Speaker 2>airing at 2 p.m. on Monday, August 30th. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>Small Town Monsters special. I'm looking forward to that. We

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<v Speaker 2>love our friends over at Small Town Monsters. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 2>have a little bit of bias, but they've always treated

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<v Speaker 2>us well, but they always put out a top-notch production,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it would be nice to have something

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<v Speaker 2>special done for Doc Meldrum. I mean, we were going

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<v Speaker 2>to sponsor Dr. Meldrum at the Bigfoot camping adventure weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>That didn't get to happen. That was a big pile

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<v Speaker 2>of suck, as Baker would say. Very tragic for us.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't get that time. We did get Ron Moorhead,

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<v Speaker 2>and it didn't turn into a weekend at Bernie's thing,

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<v Speaker 2>so we were all right with that.

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<v Speaker 6>Any weekend with Moorhead's better. But go tune in August 30th.

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<v Speaker 2>2 p.m., Small Town Monsters, Vines and Sasquatch, A Legacy

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<v Speaker 2>of Dr. Jeff Meldrum. Of course, all these things will

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<v Speaker 2>be posted on the Sasquatch Experience Facebook page. We do

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<v Speaker 2>have a new website, SasquatchExperience.com. I took us off getting

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<v Speaker 2>that up. It's a much better website for you guys

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<v Speaker 2>to go and navigate to. And if you're so inclined,

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<v Speaker 2>just as easy to go and become a member for

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<v Speaker 2>$ 2 a month via our Patreon, which we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>have a lot of our research stuff starting to post

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<v Speaker 2>over there. I know we promised, promised, promised to bring

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<v Speaker 2>you more content, but we have so much going on

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<v Speaker 2>behind the scenes. I think you folks will be happy.

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<v Speaker 2>The new website's just the beginning. A lot of stuff

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<v Speaker 2>going on behind the scenes.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, I hear the train.

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<v Speaker 3>I hear the train a-coming.

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<v Speaker 2>There we go. It's a little late tonight. little league

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<v Speaker 2>world series in full effect here in williamsport pennsylvania james

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<v Speaker 2>baker and i are uh dealing with that uh just

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<v Speaker 2>just a small inconvenience in our lives to bring so

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<v Speaker 2>much joy to uh the world with little league being

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<v Speaker 2>here in our own backyards but now let's get in

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<v Speaker 2>the the crux of things i can't talk tonight the

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<v Speaker 2>crux i i quit somebody else want to take over

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<v Speaker 2>here uh You know, a central question I have for

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<v Speaker 2>you guys when we get started into this, do you

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<v Speaker 2>think these wildfires are pushing Bigfoot out of hiding? If

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<v Speaker 2>Sasquatch is a flesh and blood animal in North America,

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<v Speaker 2>what happens when thousands or millions of its acres are burning?

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<v Speaker 2>Where do they go? Do they go closer together? Do

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<v Speaker 2>they go further into the woods? What say you? Let's

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<v Speaker 2>get some questions and some dialogue going on this.

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<v Speaker 5>Go ahead, James. Well, it's a good question.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, Henry.

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<v Speaker 5>We may not get the answer to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what do you think? Over all the years, Henry,

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<v Speaker 2>you've done this. You've collected the stories, read the stories.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think? Why do we not get more sightings,

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<v Speaker 2>or why do you think something hasn't been proven, given

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<v Speaker 2>the nature of all these wildfires?

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<v Speaker 3>Hmm. Hmm.

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<v Speaker 6>Henry, you want me to take a crack at it?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know. You got it. Well, do it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>go ahead. Go ahead, babe. Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So my opinion on a lot of this is, and

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<v Speaker 3>I've always had the two, I'm of the two schools

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<v Speaker 3>of thought either.

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<v Speaker 6>It's not real.

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<v Speaker 3>And we've been, we've been, you know, hypothesizing or it's

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<v Speaker 3>real and it's highly intelligent. I mean, the two, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>have to kind of go together a little bit. I

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<v Speaker 3>think the big thing with these wildfires and everything is...

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't know if I have the name right,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think it's Rene DeHinden.

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<v Speaker 6>Was the one who studied the bears?

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<v Speaker 3>No. No.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, Forker knows names.

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<v Speaker 2>I know facts.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So, he'll tell us in a minute when he's done

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<v Speaker 3>pulling on whatever he's got over there.

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<v Speaker 6>So, they.

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<v Speaker 3>This person always looked at how do bears interact with

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<v Speaker 3>their environment during certain times, certain moon cycles, certain things.

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<v Speaker 2>John Mayanzinski was who you're looking at.

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<v Speaker 5>John Mayanzinski. Thank you. Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>But they looked at an animal that they could trustfully

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<v Speaker 3>see and had things that were exact. Like a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of the people look at the great apes and they

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<v Speaker 3>go and they use that as a base. in the

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<v Speaker 3>Pacific Northwest and, you know, the Dakotas and all that.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the woods, you know, Pennsylvania woods, they look

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<v Speaker 3>at the bears because it's a large enough animal and

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<v Speaker 3>it would be affected by the same thing that a

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<v Speaker 3>larger animal that was a carnivore slash herbivore would be

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<v Speaker 3>affected by. So what you would look at is these California, Oregon,

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<v Speaker 3>Canada wildfires. Even if the fire doesn't directly do it,

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<v Speaker 3>I live in Pennsylvania and the fire was in Canada.

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<v Speaker 3>And I still got some process during for like a week.

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<v Speaker 3>So anybody that was in like North or South Dakota

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<v Speaker 3>or Chicago, you know, Illinois, Chicago, all those places were

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<v Speaker 3>choking for like a month. So these animals have, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if the animal is there, it has to be affected.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's got to be, you know, finding places where

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<v Speaker 3>it's clearer. I would think with the way smoke works

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<v Speaker 3>and things like that, they would go to lower elevations.

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<v Speaker 3>They would be closer to things that would block the wind.

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<v Speaker 3>But again, if you look at a bear, you could

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<v Speaker 3>see what their movements are and then you.

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<v Speaker 6>Might be able to track. Because we're all one big guessers.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the one thing I tried to point out

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<v Speaker 3>to the gentleman that wanted to be a cryptozoologist. I said,

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<v Speaker 3>A big portion of what we do is walking around

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<v Speaker 3>the woods and guess, you know. So, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 3>would say study bears in those local areas, see what

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<v Speaker 3>they're doing. That might give you an idea of what's

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<v Speaker 3>going on. All right, Henry, I'm sorry I cut you off.

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<v Speaker 3>It's your turn again.

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<v Speaker 5>No, no, no. I couldn't put a bear myself, babe.

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<v Speaker 2>Matt, what say you, sir?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I have a lot of things to say about,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, with the wildfires first, it's not like people

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<v Speaker 4>and we haven't emergency exit, you know, where you see

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<v Speaker 4>all the deer coming out and all the elk coming

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<v Speaker 4>out and all the bear coming out. They're scattered and

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<v Speaker 4>they're scattering into the areas that aren't under the threat

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<v Speaker 4>of wildfire. And with that, unless you had somebody encircling the,

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<v Speaker 4>every 20 yards around a radius of a wildfire, you're

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<v Speaker 4>not going to see every animal that comes out of it.

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<v Speaker 4>So there's also ways that some animals will burrow to

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<v Speaker 4>escape the wildfire. Again, you're getting very high temperatures, but

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<v Speaker 4>in some of the wildfires, it's just burning off vegetation

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<v Speaker 4>and wood, and it's not burning into the soil as

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<v Speaker 4>much as it would maybe with like the California wildfires

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<v Speaker 4>in Malibu where they were just, you know, just super

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<v Speaker 4>high temperature numbers going into that. So they do, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>they're going to escape. Animals are going to find their

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<v Speaker 4>way to survive. The wildfires have been going on since

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<v Speaker 4>we've had oxygen and everything else going here. So, animals

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<v Speaker 4>know how to keep themselves alive during these times.

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<v Speaker 2>We do have a question there from our panel. What

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<v Speaker 2>do they do with animal carcasses that get burned up

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<v Speaker 2>in wildfires?

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<v Speaker 3>What do the state do? Well, I would think they

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<v Speaker 3>would probably have some kind of machines that go through

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<v Speaker 3>the grind up the trees and grind up everything and

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<v Speaker 3>kind of almost like you'd be almost.

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<v Speaker 6>Like a mass grave, you know, where you grind it

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<v Speaker 6>into the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, here in Pennsylvania, you know, they pick up roadkill

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<v Speaker 2>and they have, I don't know what you call them. Uh, body.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Body piles that they throw these carcasses in or as, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>uncle Z likes to put it lunch. Um, uh, But

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<v Speaker 2>they do, at least in Pennsylvania, they do collect the

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<v Speaker 2>dead animals and dispose of them in large pits or

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<v Speaker 2>what have you. In fact, we've had reports in Pennsylvania

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<v Speaker 2>of these locations being visited by Sasquatch. So it's very

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<v Speaker 2>interesting to think that. Well, and, you know, Brian, you

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<v Speaker 2>kind of set me up to segue into one of

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite encounters that Whenever I think of wildfires or,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, big fires, and Henry, you'll probably relate right

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<v Speaker 2>about that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there was going.

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<v Speaker 4>You do? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And you probably saw me pick up the book, The Locals,

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<v Speaker 2>by Tom Powell. This has a great story in it.

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<v Speaker 2>Tom Powell wrote this. And, of course, page 218, published

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<v Speaker 2>by Hancock House. Let me just read the account. This

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<v Speaker 2>compelling account was sent to the BFRO website on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 2>August 8, 1999. Two days earlier, a complex of range

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<v Speaker 2>fires was started by lightning strikes as convective thunderstorms formed

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<v Speaker 2>in the hot, dry August air over Battle Mountain, Nevada.

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<v Speaker 2>This area is a mining district riddled with abandoned mining

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<v Speaker 2>tunnels and shafts. The juniper and scrubby sagebrush of the

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<v Speaker 2>mountainous terrain around Battle Mountain exploded into several simultaneous range

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<v Speaker 2>fires in what would eventually be known as the Battle

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<v Speaker 2>Mountain Complex Fire. This is the report that the BFRO

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<v Speaker 2>received before the fires even got large enough to make

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<v Speaker 2>the news. This was 7 August 1999, Battle Mountain, Nevada.

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<v Speaker 2>And the person writes, I observed an animal wounded by

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<v Speaker 2>fire moving on all fours not like a bear, more

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<v Speaker 2>like an ape. Firefighters captured animal, contacted local vet and

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<v Speaker 2>medical doctor.

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<v Speaker 5>U.S.

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<v Speaker 2>Department of Fish and Wildlife, Department of Interior, Bureau of

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<v Speaker 2>Land Management on the scene. Animal tranquilized and moved to

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<v Speaker 2>unknown location. Those at scene told not to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>what they saw. Approximate animal 7.5 feet tall, long, Human-like

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<v Speaker 2>arms and legs. Face not like man or ape, but

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<v Speaker 2>mixed between. Genitalia.

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<v Speaker 3>Male.

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<v Speaker 2>Uncircumcised and human-like.

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<v Speaker 5>Hair.

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<v Speaker 2>Covering most of its body except chest. Chest has hair,

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<v Speaker 2>but sparse. Hands with sparse hair. Palms bare with five

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<v Speaker 2>digits with human opposition of thumb in fifth digit.

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<v Speaker 6>Speech.

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<v Speaker 2>Attempted to communicate with caregivers once it realized they were

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<v Speaker 2>attempting to careful. Multiple burns to hands, feet, legs, and body.

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<v Speaker 2>some second and third degree burns using rule of nines,

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<v Speaker 2>approximate 45% of body with burns. Doctor and vet working

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<v Speaker 2>together providing care and moved it to unknown location. This

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<v Speaker 2>notice is given in violation of orders given by BLM, DOI,

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<v Speaker 2>and DF & W. Witnesses numbered in the area of

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<v Speaker 2>20 to 25. Word is out in the government agencies

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<v Speaker 2>and among the firefighters since an MD was called out.

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<v Speaker 2>Many thought a firefighter was injured. Please note that I

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<v Speaker 2>am a government employee, one of the listed agencies fighting

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<v Speaker 2>brush fire in Wilderness Area of Nevada. Large-scale fire, approximately 70,000 acres, burned.

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<v Speaker 2>And under orders not to disclose information. I believe a

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<v Speaker 2>cover-up is in the making. People need to know. The

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<v Speaker 2>animal needs to be kept alive, studied, and released in

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<v Speaker 2>protected area. So that was kind of like it was

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<v Speaker 2>given in a pretty matter-of-fact kind of manner.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody who works in law enforcement, does that sound like

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<v Speaker 2>a report that came from somebody in law enforcement with

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<v Speaker 2>syntax and, and the way it was communicated out very staccato?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I mean, it sounds like it would be

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<v Speaker 4>a report written by someone that's in the, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>emergency management, you know, first responder program, but I don't,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. You know, I've, There's so many stories about,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, from Mount St. Helens, you know, some of

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<v Speaker 4>these other wildfires. And, you know, I think at some

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<v Speaker 4>point there would have been a body, something recovered and,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, made public at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>Baker, I heard at home, what's your reservations?

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<v Speaker 3>I think Matt hits the biggest problem that we all have.

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<v Speaker 3>And we've had this discussion multiple times. It's nice to

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<v Speaker 3>see that they mentioned it was a humanoid one, not

630
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<v Speaker 3>a red rocket. But the other discussion we have a

631
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<v Speaker 3>lot is, is that I don't ever think we're ever

632
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<v Speaker 3>going to find a body by, there's not going to

633
00:36:41.679 --> 00:36:45.139
<v Speaker 3>be somebody hunting Bigfoot and he shoots it in the

634
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<v Speaker 3>woods or whatever.

635
00:36:46.300 --> 00:36:48.059
<v Speaker 6>It's going to be Sally.

636
00:36:48.840 --> 00:36:52.000
<v Speaker 3>Aunt Sally had a few extra margaritas and she hit

637
00:36:52.039 --> 00:36:54.519
<v Speaker 3>something with her car and that didn't get her a

638
00:36:54.639 --> 00:37:00.710
<v Speaker 3>homicide charge. And, and now she's a multimillionaire because in Texas,

639
00:37:00.789 --> 00:37:04.409
<v Speaker 3>she's making money right left, you know? And, and I

640
00:37:04.449 --> 00:37:07.190
<v Speaker 3>think that's how, if they find a body, that's going

641
00:37:07.210 --> 00:37:10.750
<v Speaker 3>to happen. It's not going to be accidentally, or it's

642
00:37:10.769 --> 00:37:14.820
<v Speaker 3>not going to be whatever, because. Well, that would be accidentally.

643
00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:16.719
<v Speaker 6>Well, I mean, it's not, sorry. It's not going to

644
00:37:16.739 --> 00:37:17.539
<v Speaker 6>be purposely.

645
00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:18.219
<v Speaker 5>Gotcha.

646
00:37:18.260 --> 00:37:20.840
<v Speaker 3>I don't think somebody walking out, you know, you know,

647
00:37:20.920 --> 00:37:25.699
<v Speaker 3>it's kind of like, um, I was reading something about dinosaurs,

648
00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:30.900
<v Speaker 3>and before the 1800s, they assessed that any bones they

649
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:34.800
<v Speaker 3>found that might be dinosaur-ish were the fabled dragons and

650
00:37:34.840 --> 00:37:37.199
<v Speaker 3>some of the fabled creatures that were mentioned in the

651
00:37:37.300 --> 00:37:40.869
<v Speaker 3>old books and stuff, until science said, no, no, no,

652
00:37:41.030 --> 00:37:46.670
<v Speaker 3>that's a dinosaur. And the same with, like, we see

653
00:37:48.719 --> 00:37:50.880
<v Speaker 3>the great apes and some of the other ones is,

654
00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:54.340
<v Speaker 3>you know, We as human beings, you know, we weren't

655
00:37:54.389 --> 00:37:57.889
<v Speaker 3>the only human type thing sharing the planet. We're just

656
00:37:57.949 --> 00:38:02.409
<v Speaker 3>the ones that seem to flourish and survive better. You know,

657
00:38:03.769 --> 00:38:07.110
<v Speaker 3>you look 200,000 years ago and they had the Cro-Magnon

658
00:38:07.139 --> 00:38:10.000
<v Speaker 3>man and they had this man and, you know, this

659
00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:12.579
<v Speaker 3>different forms that we kind of all merged together to,

660
00:38:12.599 --> 00:38:15.380
<v Speaker 3>you know, the epitome of what we are now, you know.

661
00:38:15.940 --> 00:38:20.219
<v Speaker 3>And I think that we either haven't found it right

662
00:38:20.610 --> 00:38:24.289
<v Speaker 3>the bodies or like I said is that it's intelligent

663
00:38:24.309 --> 00:38:25.869
<v Speaker 3>and it finds a way to get rid of them.

664
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<v Speaker 2>You know just for the record James Baker is not

665
00:38:28.889 --> 00:38:34.750
<v Speaker 2>a professional anthropologist so his human tree and the history of.

666
00:38:34.730 --> 00:38:37.900
<v Speaker 3>You know that stupid little timeline that shows the little

667
00:38:37.940 --> 00:38:41.440
<v Speaker 3>caveman and then shows the guy with the iPod.

668
00:38:41.260 --> 00:38:44.889
<v Speaker 6>Yeah We're going backwards now, but whatever.

669
00:38:45.210 --> 00:38:47.289
<v Speaker 2>And on behalf of the Sasquatch experience, we do want

670
00:38:47.309 --> 00:38:49.539
<v Speaker 2>to apologize for all the Aunt Sallys out there that

671
00:38:49.579 --> 00:38:53.179
<v Speaker 2>Baker just called alcoholics and may have committed vehicular homicide.

672
00:38:53.579 --> 00:38:56.179
<v Speaker 6>You guys all have an Aunt Sally, and you're damn

673
00:38:56.199 --> 00:38:57.199
<v Speaker 6>well she's a drinker.

674
00:38:57.579 --> 00:38:59.739
<v Speaker 2>All right. Yeah, I think mine's a Doris.

675
00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:02.119
<v Speaker 5>That's not nice. It's Ada.

676
00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:05.969
<v Speaker 2>And Ada. Anyhow. Enabling.

677
00:39:05.989 --> 00:39:06.489
<v Speaker 5>Enabling.

678
00:39:07.349 --> 00:39:09.889
<v Speaker 6>Listen, at the event over the weekend, it was my

679
00:39:09.929 --> 00:39:10.869
<v Speaker 6>sister that was the drunk.

680
00:39:10.909 --> 00:39:11.329
<v Speaker 3>Remember?

681
00:39:11.590 --> 00:39:15.059
<v Speaker 2>She's never going to forgive me for that. Anyhow, but

682
00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:18.059
<v Speaker 2>this Battle Mountain, Nevada story, you know, we've talked about

683
00:39:18.079 --> 00:39:21.900
<v Speaker 2>this for some time. And what's interesting to me is

684
00:39:21.940 --> 00:39:24.280
<v Speaker 2>it didn't seem like there was any kind of real

685
00:39:24.510 --> 00:39:27.409
<v Speaker 2>hoopla about it. You know, we, you know, Henry, 1999,

686
00:39:27.409 --> 00:39:32.610
<v Speaker 2>Internet was still consistent. of just getting its kicks going

687
00:39:32.639 --> 00:39:34.880
<v Speaker 2>with Bigfoot, right? There weren't a whole lot of websites

688
00:39:34.940 --> 00:39:38.440
<v Speaker 2>around yet. And I don't know if Bigfoot forums was

689
00:39:38.519 --> 00:39:42.539
<v Speaker 2>even around quite yet at that time, but maybe the

690
00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:47.659
<v Speaker 2>Henry Franzoni's virtual Bigfoot conference would have been, would have

691
00:39:47.679 --> 00:39:52.349
<v Speaker 2>been around, but, You know, the fact Tom Powell got

692
00:39:52.389 --> 00:39:54.329
<v Speaker 2>this story and the BFRO and that, you know, they

693
00:39:54.349 --> 00:39:57.670
<v Speaker 2>took it seriously and went through it. I think some

694
00:39:57.710 --> 00:39:59.769
<v Speaker 2>of the things that are interesting to me is the,

695
00:40:02.050 --> 00:40:04.530
<v Speaker 2>how they treated it, you know, with an MD and

696
00:40:04.550 --> 00:40:09.179
<v Speaker 2>a veterinarian. I mean, Matt, as somebody with long, would

697
00:40:09.570 --> 00:40:14.519
<v Speaker 2>that sound like something that would be even possible or

698
00:40:14.659 --> 00:40:16.280
<v Speaker 2>that they would, somebody would attempt?

699
00:40:19.130 --> 00:40:23.369
<v Speaker 4>You know, so when we have wildfires or we don't

700
00:40:23.469 --> 00:40:27.750
<v Speaker 4>have veterinarians like on call or anything like that, I mean,

701
00:40:27.769 --> 00:40:32.010
<v Speaker 4>we're taking care of the humans. So if there are

702
00:40:32.789 --> 00:40:39.800
<v Speaker 4>any people with veterinary experience, they're going to be almost

703
00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:46.860
<v Speaker 4>like first responders too. You know, just say if there's

704
00:40:46.880 --> 00:40:50.809
<v Speaker 4>a horse. that were a pack mule that was brought

705
00:40:50.969 --> 00:40:54.489
<v Speaker 4>in and got an injury during one of these firefights.

706
00:40:55.969 --> 00:41:02.119
<v Speaker 4>They would take that, do the first aid, and then

707
00:41:02.940 --> 00:41:06.500
<v Speaker 4>remove it to an emergency animal hospital.

708
00:41:11.019 --> 00:41:12.760
<v Speaker 2>As we go through and look at some more of

709
00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:20.780
<v Speaker 2>these stories, there's a Shaver Lake encounter in 2026 Fresno County. Man,

710
00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:24.539
<v Speaker 2>you know, I just got to ask you guys, you know,

711
00:41:24.559 --> 00:41:26.739
<v Speaker 2>and your personal thoughts on this, because I just don't

712
00:41:26.760 --> 00:41:29.349
<v Speaker 2>want to spend the whole episode talking about Battle Mountain, Nevada, right?

713
00:41:29.369 --> 00:41:32.170
<v Speaker 2>That was a very interesting story. Had some very interesting

714
00:41:32.210 --> 00:41:35.610
<v Speaker 2>takeaways from it. It could also be fantasy, right? It's

715
00:41:35.769 --> 00:41:40.280
<v Speaker 2>very detailed. And sometimes when you have something so detailed

716
00:41:40.320 --> 00:41:42.960
<v Speaker 2>like that, you wonder the veracity of it just because

717
00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:43.820
<v Speaker 2>it's so.

718
00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:45.780
<v Speaker 4>Clear.

719
00:41:46.199 --> 00:41:48.809
<v Speaker 2>It's clear and full of information. And, you know, I

720
00:41:48.849 --> 00:41:51.030
<v Speaker 2>encourage everybody to pick up a copy of The Locals. Anyhow,

721
00:41:51.050 --> 00:41:53.789
<v Speaker 2>it's probably my second favorite Bigfoot book next to John

722
00:41:53.809 --> 00:41:57.429
<v Speaker 2>Green's The Apes Among Us. I do enjoy The Locals.

723
00:41:57.449 --> 00:42:00.630
<v Speaker 2>There's some great stories in there. And pick it up.

724
00:42:00.929 --> 00:42:04.170
<v Speaker 2>Go read it. Starts on page 218 moving forward. And

725
00:42:04.369 --> 00:42:06.090
<v Speaker 2>we'd love to have your opinions on it. Post them

726
00:42:06.110 --> 00:42:07.670
<v Speaker 2>on the show page so we can see what you're

727
00:42:07.690 --> 00:42:12.130
<v Speaker 2>thinking about it. A little homework assignment for you tonight.

728
00:42:12.590 --> 00:42:13.150
<v Speaker 6>Go ahead, Henry.

729
00:42:13.250 --> 00:42:13.730
<v Speaker 5>Go ahead, Baker.

730
00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:20.400
<v Speaker 3>Matt, I have a question as a police officer. Sorry,

731
00:42:20.440 --> 00:42:21.840
<v Speaker 3>the echo is.

732
00:42:23.239 --> 00:42:27.420
<v Speaker 3>When you take statements and other things, is it easier

733
00:42:27.440 --> 00:42:30.480
<v Speaker 3>to lie when they have more facts or when they

734
00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:33.199
<v Speaker 3>generally just have no clue what went on and they

735
00:42:33.219 --> 00:42:34.199
<v Speaker 3>don't really think?

736
00:42:35.500 --> 00:42:36.719
<v Speaker 6>Do you know what I mean? The difference?

737
00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:45.769
<v Speaker 4>I know the difference. There's classes in statement analysis. that

738
00:42:45.809 --> 00:42:49.710
<v Speaker 4>will answer that so i don't really want to give

739
00:42:49.750 --> 00:42:54.300
<v Speaker 4>the answers out uh you know on the podcast but

740
00:42:54.719 --> 00:42:58.139
<v Speaker 4>there when you analyze the statement there are clues that

741
00:42:58.179 --> 00:43:03.659
<v Speaker 4>we look for for someone that's embellishing versus someone that

742
00:43:03.780 --> 00:43:07.289
<v Speaker 4>may have to think back to to what happened.

743
00:43:09.320 --> 00:43:12.760
<v Speaker 6>So it's just not vocal. It's also like words, music,

744
00:43:12.820 --> 00:43:15.599
<v Speaker 6>and dance. That's how they say it. It's what they do.

745
00:43:15.980 --> 00:43:18.760
<v Speaker 5>All right.

746
00:43:19.099 --> 00:43:24.019
<v Speaker 4>Communication is only, what, 10% of actually talking. The rest

747
00:43:24.059 --> 00:43:26.030
<v Speaker 4>of it is how we express it.

748
00:43:27.010 --> 00:43:33.550
<v Speaker 2>Body language, as Ursula would say in The Little Mermaid. Dum, dum, dum, dum. Poor,

749
00:43:33.630 --> 00:43:35.630
<v Speaker 2>unfortunate skull. Anyhow.

750
00:43:36.090 --> 00:43:37.250
<v Speaker 6>She got done wrong.

751
00:43:37.550 --> 00:43:37.869
<v Speaker 5>She did.

752
00:43:38.469 --> 00:43:42.869
<v Speaker 2>Justice for Ursula hashtag. We anyhow. So back to.

753
00:43:42.849 --> 00:43:44.349
<v Speaker 6>The big girls with tentacles.

754
00:43:45.349 --> 00:43:46.070
<v Speaker 2>And there it is, folks.

755
00:43:46.110 --> 00:43:48.320
<v Speaker 5>Good night. We'll see you next week.

756
00:43:48.820 --> 00:43:51.719
<v Speaker 2>That's not the show I wanted to have. But when

757
00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:54.260
<v Speaker 2>we look at these sighting reports for, you know, and

758
00:43:54.579 --> 00:43:57.840
<v Speaker 2>Jeremiah over on Bigfoot Society, he put out an infogram

759
00:43:57.960 --> 00:44:02.219
<v Speaker 2>the other day for folks to kind of report encounters

760
00:44:02.739 --> 00:44:05.440
<v Speaker 2>that were happening in the. Let me see if I

761
00:44:05.460 --> 00:44:07.849
<v Speaker 2>can at least. I'll pull it up here. I don't

762
00:44:07.869 --> 00:44:10.190
<v Speaker 2>know if you guys all saw it or not. Our

763
00:44:10.210 --> 00:44:13.630
<v Speaker 2>good friend Jeremiah over there from Bigfoot going through it.

764
00:44:14.550 --> 00:44:18.179
<v Speaker 2>Of course, you know, pulling for him as always as

765
00:44:18.219 --> 00:44:22.519
<v Speaker 2>he goes through his battle with cancer. Unfortunately, we just

766
00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:26.340
<v Speaker 2>send our love and support out for him. And it's

767
00:44:26.400 --> 00:44:28.260
<v Speaker 2>not just a stall because I can't pull it up.

768
00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:30.679
<v Speaker 2>But anyhow, he put up this great infographic, you know,

769
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:34.489
<v Speaker 2>asking folks that if you are having or know of

770
00:44:34.570 --> 00:44:37.230
<v Speaker 2>any experiences or sightings, please report them. And I think

771
00:44:37.309 --> 00:44:42.510
<v Speaker 2>it's incredibly important that that happens because one of the

772
00:44:42.550 --> 00:44:48.989
<v Speaker 2>things that I've had thought is that activity around natural

773
00:44:49.030 --> 00:44:53.800
<v Speaker 2>disasters would pick up. And I don't know if there's

774
00:44:53.840 --> 00:44:55.719
<v Speaker 2>a true correlation to that or not. And I didn't

775
00:44:55.760 --> 00:44:58.139
<v Speaker 2>really think about it until Baker gave me this premise

776
00:44:58.159 --> 00:45:00.780
<v Speaker 2>yesterday when we were kind of beating around the bush

777
00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:03.690
<v Speaker 2>for a show topic. And he goes, well, how about

778
00:45:03.710 --> 00:45:09.690
<v Speaker 2>the wildfires? And again, you know, my thought is, where

779
00:45:09.710 --> 00:45:12.989
<v Speaker 2>are they going to go? Do they retreat into these

780
00:45:13.130 --> 00:45:16.449
<v Speaker 2>tunnels and caves and mines? Or do they try to

781
00:45:17.130 --> 00:45:20.280
<v Speaker 2>progress further and deeper into the woods? Or, you know,

782
00:45:20.300 --> 00:45:23.199
<v Speaker 2>what happens? I don't have a good answer. You know,

783
00:45:23.260 --> 00:45:25.340
<v Speaker 2>but then also keep in mind that if it's affecting

784
00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:29.039
<v Speaker 2>them and their homes, what's it doing to their food supply?

785
00:45:30.070 --> 00:45:30.309
<v Speaker 4>Right.

786
00:45:30.329 --> 00:45:32.469
<v Speaker 2>They have to adjust for that. So do they go

787
00:45:32.510 --> 00:45:34.679
<v Speaker 2>into more scavenger mode? And then do you have more

788
00:45:34.739 --> 00:45:37.880
<v Speaker 2>contact with people because Bigfoot's raiding my shed, you know,

789
00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:41.460
<v Speaker 2>or going after my chickens? You know, what's that look like?

790
00:45:50.349 --> 00:45:55.329
<v Speaker 4>And I think we've seen that before in other disasters

791
00:45:55.449 --> 00:46:01.190
<v Speaker 4>where animals will Sometimes if it's like, just say earthquake,

792
00:46:02.150 --> 00:46:07.570
<v Speaker 4>animals sense the earthquakes before scientists do. I mean, you know,

793
00:46:07.590 --> 00:46:12.010
<v Speaker 4>you hear about the birds, the mammals that leave an area,

794
00:46:12.409 --> 00:46:17.190
<v Speaker 4>you know, in mass. And a day later, two days later,

795
00:46:17.230 --> 00:46:22.530
<v Speaker 4>there's a massive earthquake. It would be similar to the wildfire.

796
00:46:22.550 --> 00:46:25.650
<v Speaker 4>You know, there's going to be, you know, cues there,

797
00:46:25.670 --> 00:46:28.559
<v Speaker 4>you know, whether the smell of the smoke. a change

798
00:46:28.619 --> 00:46:34.269
<v Speaker 4>in temperature, wind direction, that's going to, you know, kind

799
00:46:34.329 --> 00:46:37.590
<v Speaker 4>of be that, you know, early alarm system for these

800
00:46:37.690 --> 00:46:41.570
<v Speaker 4>animals to go. Now, you have, you know, a large mammal,

801
00:46:43.300 --> 00:46:47.199
<v Speaker 4>you know, whether it's a Bigfoot, a bear, that's going

802
00:46:47.219 --> 00:46:49.380
<v Speaker 4>to be leaving the area. But what else is leaving

803
00:46:49.400 --> 00:46:52.559
<v Speaker 4>the area? You also have the prey. They're leaving there

804
00:46:52.579 --> 00:46:55.389
<v Speaker 4>as well. You know, the deer, like I said, the mice.

805
00:46:56.559 --> 00:46:58.480
<v Speaker 4>some of the, some of the other LA Pika rats

806
00:46:58.659 --> 00:47:01.320
<v Speaker 4>and stuff, they're going to find places to, to burrow

807
00:47:01.360 --> 00:47:04.570
<v Speaker 4>down and, and, and wait it out. But some of

808
00:47:04.610 --> 00:47:09.429
<v Speaker 4>the other, you know, general, uh, uh, birds that would

809
00:47:09.469 --> 00:47:11.730
<v Speaker 4>be food are going to be going with them.

810
00:47:15.010 --> 00:47:17.929
<v Speaker 2>No, I, and that's a great question. That's kind of

811
00:47:17.969 --> 00:47:20.690
<v Speaker 2>called the prey displacement question there, Matt, is what you

812
00:47:20.710 --> 00:47:26.400
<v Speaker 2>were just talking about. And that, uh, again, you start

813
00:47:26.440 --> 00:47:29.579
<v Speaker 2>taking away some of the food opportunities, you would think

814
00:47:29.699 --> 00:47:34.000
<v Speaker 2>contact with people would increase. And, you know, I go

815
00:47:34.039 --> 00:47:37.480
<v Speaker 2>back to the 70s after the flood of, I believe,

816
00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:41.420
<v Speaker 2>Agnes up this way, there was an Amish person who

817
00:47:41.500 --> 00:47:45.280
<v Speaker 2>reported a Bigfoot raiding their storeroom, you know, that their

818
00:47:45.559 --> 00:47:48.179
<v Speaker 2>root cellar on their back porch, I guess it was

819
00:47:48.219 --> 00:47:52.000
<v Speaker 2>kind of a root cellar-esque type deal, looking for food.

820
00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:55.659
<v Speaker 2>And so when these you would think there would be

821
00:47:55.760 --> 00:48:00.250
<v Speaker 2>more sightings that kick up. A question from Uncle Zen

822
00:48:00.289 --> 00:48:01.789
<v Speaker 2>there in the chat, he goes, with all the game

823
00:48:01.829 --> 00:48:04.010
<v Speaker 2>lands and such in Lycoming County, why do we not

824
00:48:04.050 --> 00:48:06.610
<v Speaker 2>have very many sightings or people saying they see prints

825
00:48:06.670 --> 00:48:07.889
<v Speaker 2>or smell something foul?

826
00:48:08.670 --> 00:48:09.250
<v Speaker 6>Well, we do.

827
00:48:10.469 --> 00:48:13.010
<v Speaker 2>The key is getting them to report them. And so

828
00:48:13.309 --> 00:48:15.909
<v Speaker 2>it never fails that whenever we go and do one

829
00:48:15.949 --> 00:48:20.860
<v Speaker 2>of these reports, what do you call them at town

830
00:48:20.929 --> 00:48:25.849
<v Speaker 2>halls or festivals or conferences? Somebody comes in and provides

831
00:48:25.909 --> 00:48:27.730
<v Speaker 2>us with some new information. Oh, Hey, have you ever

832
00:48:27.769 --> 00:48:30.610
<v Speaker 2>been out to this area? Oh yeah, we have. We've

833
00:48:30.630 --> 00:48:33.489
<v Speaker 2>been out there, you know, quite a few times. Um,

834
00:48:33.840 --> 00:48:36.099
<v Speaker 2>but it's just really, especially up here in this part

835
00:48:36.119 --> 00:48:38.519
<v Speaker 2>of the state, shaking off that stigma. We are a

836
00:48:38.559 --> 00:48:43.519
<v Speaker 2>very rural hunting, fishing community up these ways. People don't

837
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<v Speaker 2>want to sully that with, uh, you know, what they

838
00:48:46.070 --> 00:48:47.699
<v Speaker 2>perceive to be silliness, or they don't want to get

839
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<v Speaker 2>kicked out of their hunting or fishing lodge. Sometimes that

840
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<v Speaker 2>in itself is worth its weight. It's gold.

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<v Speaker 5>Is it not? Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That is true. That's life.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, you don't want to get kicked out of that.

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<v Speaker 6>And then you get that reputation.

845
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<v Speaker 2>Oh, you use. Well, and again, case in point to

846
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<v Speaker 2>that guy that we had that, uh, in 2016, he

847
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<v Speaker 2>didn't want us to even, uh, wear anything with Bigfoot

848
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<v Speaker 2>on it or have anything in our vehicles. When we

849
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<v Speaker 2>were out there, we were just friends coming up to

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<v Speaker 2>check out the hunting lodge. He didn't want any of.

851
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<v Speaker 6>Us because he didn't want people to. He didn't want

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<v Speaker 6>the promo.

853
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<v Speaker 2>No, he didn't. He didn't want that.

854
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<v Speaker 4>Right.

855
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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. I mean, that's the best way to say it. And,

856
00:49:33.610 --> 00:49:36.170
<v Speaker 2>you know, and I think Steve posts, likewise, with all

857
00:49:36.190 --> 00:49:38.769
<v Speaker 2>the work going on out past Barber State Game Lands. Now,

858
00:49:38.829 --> 00:49:41.309
<v Speaker 2>out that way, there's been reports near the pheasant farm

859
00:49:42.250 --> 00:49:45.860
<v Speaker 2>and up in the spring conservation camp out that way

860
00:49:45.880 --> 00:49:50.820
<v Speaker 2>where they were dumping stone. So there are sightings. It's

861
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<v Speaker 2>just getting folks to report them, one in a timely fashion,

862
00:49:53.179 --> 00:49:55.989
<v Speaker 2>because a lot of times we get these reports. They

863
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<v Speaker 2>happened 10, 15 years ago, not 10, 15 hours ago. Lately,

864
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<v Speaker 2>however— We've had some really good reports that have come through.

865
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<v Speaker 2>You know, stepping back into this, those are some really

866
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<v Speaker 2>good questions, guys. So thank you for those. Fire is

867
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<v Speaker 2>not always ecologically negative, right? Sometimes there's a purpose for

868
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<v Speaker 2>controlled burns. And, you know, I'm sure that probably weighs

869
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<v Speaker 2>into this whole scenario as well. It also re-enriches the land.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

871
00:50:31.619 --> 00:50:36.760
<v Speaker 3>As bad as it sounds, it does because the charcoal

872
00:50:36.820 --> 00:50:39.219
<v Speaker 3>and the other stuff and a lot of the old

873
00:50:39.320 --> 00:50:41.630
<v Speaker 3>wood that was making it, that the new trees didn't

874
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<v Speaker 3>get enough light and water, they're getting out of the way.

875
00:50:45.550 --> 00:50:50.050
<v Speaker 3>You know, the animals that died, you know, the chemicals

876
00:50:50.110 --> 00:50:51.900
<v Speaker 3>coming off of them and the bone.

877
00:50:51.659 --> 00:50:53.019
<v Speaker 6>Meal and the blood meal.

878
00:50:53.280 --> 00:50:53.480
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

879
00:50:53.500 --> 00:50:58.360
<v Speaker 6>It makes the forest richer. Renutrizes it. Renutrizes it.

880
00:50:58.360 --> 00:50:58.579
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

881
00:50:58.679 --> 00:51:02.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. It gets its goodies back, and that's a very

882
00:51:02.239 --> 00:51:07.980
<v Speaker 2>important part of the ecological balance right there. But also,

883
00:51:09.000 --> 00:51:12.059
<v Speaker 2>how long does it take for these animals to come back?

884
00:51:12.159 --> 00:51:14.489
<v Speaker 2>Once it does burn, when will they start revisiting and

885
00:51:14.530 --> 00:51:18.010
<v Speaker 2>coming to it? So could sightings drop in areas because

886
00:51:18.449 --> 00:51:22.269
<v Speaker 2>of these situations? So Canada, rich in Bigfoot sightings, right?

887
00:51:22.329 --> 00:51:25.710
<v Speaker 2>Depending on the Pacific Northwest, one of these major disasters happened.

888
00:51:26.420 --> 00:51:29.489
<v Speaker 2>Do sightings drop off? And again, for our data-crunching nerd

889
00:51:29.530 --> 00:51:31.369
<v Speaker 2>friends out there, that might be something to look at

890
00:51:31.389 --> 00:51:35.320
<v Speaker 2>and to consider. I mean, there's a lot to this,

891
00:51:35.960 --> 00:51:37.739
<v Speaker 2>and we're about out of time already, and I know

892
00:51:37.780 --> 00:51:38.760
<v Speaker 2>we started a little late.

893
00:51:39.079 --> 00:51:39.599
<v Speaker 5>But.

894
00:51:40.980 --> 00:51:49.750
<v Speaker 2>Folks, again, does any of this equate to An influx

895
00:51:50.110 --> 00:51:52.989
<v Speaker 2>or a decrease in sightings? We don't know. We just

896
00:51:53.010 --> 00:51:54.769
<v Speaker 2>thought it'd be fun to talk about for a little bit.

897
00:51:54.869 --> 00:51:57.920
<v Speaker 2>Check out the book, The Locals, by Tom Powell. Page

898
00:51:57.920 --> 00:52:01.900
<v Speaker 2>218 starts the Battle Mountain, Nevada story. It's one of

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite ones in the book to go check out.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, we'll go around the horn. Any final thoughts

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00:52:08.750 --> 00:52:10.329
<v Speaker 2>from you gentlemen here before we wrap it up for

902
00:52:10.349 --> 00:52:16.989
<v Speaker 2>the night? As we wrap it up for the night. Matt,

903
00:52:17.030 --> 00:52:18.789
<v Speaker 2>we'll start with you. We'll go down around the horn here,

904
00:52:18.969 --> 00:52:19.780
<v Speaker 2>at least in my horn.

905
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no, I was going to say with the wildfires,

906
00:52:27.840 --> 00:52:31.420
<v Speaker 4>there are benefits. I know we had a wildfire up

907
00:52:31.460 --> 00:52:37.170
<v Speaker 4>in Elk County that burned quite a few acres. And within,

908
00:52:37.190 --> 00:52:40.349
<v Speaker 4>you know, a year and a half, the elk were

909
00:52:40.389 --> 00:52:44.190
<v Speaker 4>just all over that place because there was minerals. Like

910
00:52:45.090 --> 00:52:48.550
<v Speaker 4>what James had said, there was a chemical process that

911
00:52:48.590 --> 00:52:52.590
<v Speaker 4>brought some minerals up that were actually, uh, very good

912
00:52:52.710 --> 00:52:57.320
<v Speaker 4>for the elk, uh, the deer. And, uh, and in

913
00:52:57.380 --> 00:53:01.000
<v Speaker 4>turn with them basically doing this natural, they're almost like

914
00:53:01.059 --> 00:53:04.340
<v Speaker 4>natural farmers, you know, is sitting there with their hooves,

915
00:53:04.440 --> 00:53:06.559
<v Speaker 4>you know, going over the, all this burnt land. Well,

916
00:53:07.119 --> 00:53:12.019
<v Speaker 4>you know, they're, they're creating a new environment and new ecosystem,

917
00:53:12.539 --> 00:53:17.489
<v Speaker 4>which was really good. So, um, Again, large animals, they

918
00:53:17.550 --> 00:53:20.889
<v Speaker 4>seem to get out of the fire, and when they

919
00:53:20.929 --> 00:53:24.349
<v Speaker 4>come back, they work hand-in-hand with nature to bring the

920
00:53:24.969 --> 00:53:25.550
<v Speaker 4>forest back.

921
00:53:26.590 --> 00:53:28.860
<v Speaker 2>Excellent. Henry, what say you?

922
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<v Speaker 7>Well, we are fortunate enough not to have any forest

923
00:53:38.719 --> 00:53:42.110
<v Speaker 7>pyres close to us, but if we were to have

924
00:53:42.619 --> 00:53:48.130
<v Speaker 7>a forest fire, it would be at the local wildlife refuge.

925
00:53:48.590 --> 00:53:50.510
<v Speaker 7>If we were to have something like that, it would

926
00:53:50.530 --> 00:53:56.510
<v Speaker 7>be pretty devastating. Because that's quite an ecosystem there that's

927
00:53:56.769 --> 00:53:57.610
<v Speaker 7>in that area.

928
00:53:57.630 --> 00:54:03.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely an ebb and flow to the natural order

929
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<v Speaker 2>of things. But, you know, in the short term, the

930
00:54:08.630 --> 00:54:11.769
<v Speaker 2>situation could be quite devastating. Baker, any final thoughts for you, buddy?

931
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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think the big thing is that we've learned

932
00:54:16.309 --> 00:54:18.349
<v Speaker 3>is that at the end of the day, we have

933
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<v Speaker 3>to look at all existing evidence and see what it

934
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<v Speaker 3>is and what it's not.

935
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<v Speaker 6>And that we have to come in with a scientific.

936
00:54:24.699 --> 00:54:29.239
<v Speaker 3>Mind, but a researcher's heart. And we keep doing that. Eventually,

937
00:54:29.260 --> 00:54:31.960
<v Speaker 3>we're going to figure something out. I mean, there's got

938
00:54:31.980 --> 00:54:34.960
<v Speaker 3>to be a plateau somewhere. I mean, the world's getting

939
00:54:35.079 --> 00:54:39.650
<v Speaker 3>smaller every day. you know, we talk about encroachment of

940
00:54:39.710 --> 00:54:43.889
<v Speaker 3>us encroaching into, you know, other animals domain. Eventually there'll

941
00:54:43.909 --> 00:54:46.909
<v Speaker 3>be a point where there's nowhere for something that big

942
00:54:46.949 --> 00:54:48.710
<v Speaker 3>to hide, you know?

943
00:54:49.269 --> 00:54:51.130
<v Speaker 2>Well, will we see it in our lifetime? I don't

944
00:54:51.190 --> 00:54:51.550
<v Speaker 2>think so.

945
00:54:51.570 --> 00:54:52.449
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't know. Yeah.

946
00:54:52.949 --> 00:54:54.110
<v Speaker 2>We've got a lot of land to go.

947
00:54:54.269 --> 00:54:54.610
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

948
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<v Speaker 2>Still, you know, as these ecological disasters happen and, you know,

949
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<v Speaker 2>whether it's a controlled situation or just, you know, lightning

950
00:55:03.880 --> 00:55:07.409
<v Speaker 2>strikes and then that burn baby burn, um, You know,

951
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<v Speaker 2>I guess we have to hold and wait and see. Folks,

952
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<v Speaker 2>you've been listening to the Sasquatch Experience. I'm Sean Forker.

953
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<v Speaker 2>That's Matt Arner, James Baker down in the bottom corner,

954
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<v Speaker 2>and Henry May in the center square. Henry, take us

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<v Speaker 2>out with those dulcet tones.

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<v Speaker 5>Y'all be good.

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<v Speaker 2>Folks, we'll see you again in a couple weeks. And

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<v Speaker 2>until then, keep on squatching. Check us out, SasquatchExperience.com. See

959
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<v Speaker 2>you next time. You've been listening to the Sasquatch Experience.

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<v Speaker 2>Please rate and review wherever this podcast is consumed. For

961
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<v Speaker 2>more information, please go to our website, sasquatchexperience.com. Keep on squatchin'.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.