Speaker 1: I made a decision.
Speaker 2: Face sunny sun on I hadurdasion yet.
Speaker 1: Night to what's up everybody?
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, happy Labor Day. Yay, it's the next day,
but so what.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah it's Tuesday.
Speaker 3: Hope you guys had a great day off for those
of you who still are employed, right, Hope you got
out of the house, went to the mall.
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, got your nails done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got your hair died, just mixed it up
and mingled with friends, went to a big party.
Speaker 1: You know. Labor Day. Yeah, Labor Day. Oh my god,
I'm so over COVID. I know, I'm done. I'm none.
I know, I am too, I am too. I'm done. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Although there's no traffic today, that was nice. By the way,
what happened with the traffic situation? There was no traffic
and now there's a ton of traffic. Remember I missed
those days when I was driving Italia around the city
at five o'clock with no anything, no problem.
Speaker 1: Most of the time, it's not bad, it's.
Speaker 2: Not bad, but it gets gotten more congested, that's for sure.
But today was a breeze, that's for sure. Oh yeah,
combination of COVID and Labor Day, right, so I was
we had a We was Your Family drama on Patreon
this week. Guys, sign up, Yeah, five dollars to hear
about that.
Speaker 1: And at the very end of it, I was going.
Speaker 3: To tell you that Xander, So this is a maybe,
I don't know if it's a complaint.
Speaker 1: I think you're going to relate with Sonny.
Speaker 3: Okay, So Xander has a great personality, he really does.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he had a funny kid. He makes me laugh
really hard.
Speaker 3: He I told you about the time we were at
Starbucks and he was just like making me laugh, legit,
belly laugh at the funny things.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I know that kid's got a good sense of humors.
Speaker 2: This Halloween costume from last year that was genius, very very.
Speaker 1: And he's such a good kid.
Speaker 3: But so here's the thing, though, he's so like I
think my kids, and I'm not talking about Elbe here,
just Sadie and Xander. They've been home for so long, isolated,
and neither one of them had a lot of friends
to begin with.
Speaker 1: But now it's like.
Speaker 3: So Sadie has Sadie has one friend that was like
her closest friend before this everything shut down, and that
friend has an autoimmune has immune issues.
Speaker 1: From birth, so the mom is super paranoid, like, will
not let her. She's she's I don't think she's left
the house since this end. So that was in.
Speaker 3: March, March, April, May, June, July, August. Now we're into September,
we're into like seven months. She saw her one time
because the mom said, my daughter's going crazy. She really
wants to see Sadie, but she she wouldn't let her
come over to our house.
Speaker 1: So she said she can come over.
Speaker 3: They can be in the backyard for two hours with
masks on and sit six feet apart.
Speaker 1: That's good, that's something.
Speaker 3: So you know, Sadie was just like seriously, but she
took it because it was like she really wanted to
see her friend. But then after that, they nothing. I
talked to that mom recently and she was like, yeah,
we have to try that again. But hello, yesterday it
was one hundred and eighteen degrees, so that's not going
to happen for a while. Meanwhile, she has one other
friend that I think I told you last week came
over so they had a great time. She came over again. No,
so here's the thing. But okay, so I feel like
I have to now push them. I feel like they
almost just got used to it, and now it's almost
like an imposition to hang out with somebody because they're
so used to like not having to.
Speaker 1: I don't want to say they're lazy, but yeah, they're late.
They got really lazy.
Speaker 3: They like to sleep in and play video games, and
neither one of them can be bothered to do anything.
See friends to the point that so Xander has a friend,
I'm with you, sister, that he has he has a friend,
and both of them are kind of the same way
that his friend's mom is a friend of mine.
Speaker 1: I love her.
Speaker 2: She's agreed, she agrees with me. She can't get her
son to go do stuff either. And we were basically
like talked on the phone.
Speaker 3: We're like, we got to get our kids them together, right,
So so I told, Okay, I hope she doesn't listen
to this, but it doesn't matter, right, I tell we
talk about everything.
Speaker 1: But so Xander was supposed to go over to their house.
Speaker 3: They have like a nice house with a big pool
and it's fun, lots of stuff to kind of do, right,
but he and it's not.
Speaker 1: We don't live in like a shithole.
Speaker 3: But it's and we can use that pool and I store.
But I told you it's kind of ghetto because we
have to climb my fence.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's all right, But the point.
Speaker 3: The point is a lot of times they go over
to his house just because he was in a nice
house and there's a pool right there in the summer.
So I told Xander, you're gonna hang out with a
let's just call his friend Mac.
Speaker 1: Okay, So you're.
Speaker 3: Gonna hang out with Mac and he was like, oh, okay, great.
And they go through long periods where they just don't
see each other. It's I feel like it's like sunny,
like not seeing Jensen or something where you're like, you know,
they're really good friends. It's not like they had a
falling out, right, But they never take the initiative to
like get together.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, have you talked to Mac?
Speaker 3: And he's like, yeah, we've been we've been online or
facetiming or whatever.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, well do you want to get together?
Speaker 3: So he goes, Okay, what is these can you don't
see anybody for weeks and weeks on end and I'm
offering you to see somebody. And because I think he
just gets so used to just being and I think
he gets used to not having to compromise at all,
because if he's hanging out with Sadie and he gets.
Speaker 1: Done, right, he's like I'm done.
Speaker 3: Yeah, either he had a room or he goes all right,
I'm going to go play roadblocks now and leaves. So
they hang out, but it's such a feeling of ease
because he never has to host her. He never has Hey,
what do you want to do like normal fucking people
that are having a human relationship, or you have to
go what do you want to do?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: Like, how are you ever going to get married or
spend a lot of time with somebody if you can't
just so anyway, So I said, had you brought this up?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: So I'm like, it's getting dangerous, And Sadie like, I
told you the day that remember when we were talking
last week, the day I told you she had the
play date with that girl?
Speaker 1: Yes, okay girl, And I.
Speaker 3: Remember I told you that the girl was going to
go to the beach and the mom was like, come
meet us at the beach.
Speaker 1: And I told Sadie and she was like, hmm, it's
my girl.
Speaker 3: And I was like, you've been talking about getting together
with this girl. You guys have never hung out together.
She's inviting you to come to the beach, and you're like.
Speaker 2: Huh, how, what the fuck else are you doing? And
she she said, I don't know. She's like, I just
feel like relaxing.
Speaker 1: I was like, that, bitch, that's all you do is
relax your whole life. It's relaxation. Right now, we're in quarantine.
She needs to chillax. Yeah, that's all.
Speaker 3: She's like, well, it's been a long week, you know,
the school thing. I just was hoping to just relax.
Speaker 2: Right. She's stressed, as you say, you say you have
a certain way a linette wave of a relax.
Speaker 3: And she's just like, I just want to relax. So
I was like, okay, so that what happened. Is what
happened is she was relaxing and the other girl went
to the beach and then was like, well, this isn't
really that fun. I want to I'd rather hang out
with Sadie. So then I told you this story last
week and mom was like, all right, they want to
get together, I'll bring.
Speaker 1: Her over that bless that mom, by the way, great mom.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So then they ended up having a great day,
so much fun all day long, so many laughs. Okay,
so this weekend, the girl was with her dad. So
I had texted the mom and hey, we got to
get together, get these girls together again. She goes, yeah,
she's with her dad this weekend, but definitely next weekend
or or but I know she's around.
Speaker 1: I think she was implying like, I'm not talking to
my ex husband.
Speaker 3: But but Sadie's welcome to, like, see, invite her over
or hangout or whatever.
Speaker 1: Right, So I bring that up to Sadie. I was like,
did you did you?
Speaker 3: Could you want to reach out to her and see
if she wants to do anything, and she's like, yeah,
never did, And then later oh okay. So but back
to the Xander thing for a second. So I talked
to the mom. I make the plans right, because he won't.
Speaker 2: Even though he's twelve years old, fully capable of inviting
somebody over, he doesn't make plans.
Speaker 3: So I call the mom. I'm like, we got to
get them together. She goes, great, how about Sunday?
Speaker 1: Go perfect? I tell Xander, Xander, you're hanging out with
mac on Sunday. He goes, okay.
Speaker 3: So Sunday comes around and she says, Okay, I'm going
to bring him over. Basically, she says that her in
laws have been over. She implies that she's had kind
of a busy few days, and she's like, so can
you wait?
Speaker 2: Can you not come over until like two? And I
said yeah, And I said, but he can also, he's
welcome to come to us, and then.
Speaker 3: She says, oh, you know what he'd really like to
do that. She goes, I think he wants to get
out of the house. And I was like, great, right,
so I go, Xander Mac's gonna come over here. Now
we're on a podcast, so you can't see my face
or his face, my impression of him. But he was like,
uh oh, And I said, you told him, like yeah,
And so if I told him I'm just going to
poke you with a hot stick real quick before he
comes over, do you mind?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was.
Speaker 2: Like like that's not necessary, and I knew it was
because he was going to be He's like Sonny where
he was like, oh, im position right in position, like,
but I have my routine and now I have to
come up with stuff to do. And then he goes,
you know, he just doesn't really.
Speaker 3: Like to do anything but make tiktoks. And he was
complaining about his friend, his only fucking friend. He's one friend,
and he's complaining like, oh, he's not like as if
he's not that fun, right, which is one not really true,
he's a lower key kid, but also it's Xander's own
fault too, because it's not like Xander's always coming up
with great stuff for them to do, and no one
really can do.
Speaker 1: Much of anything anyway because of COVID.
Speaker 3: So I was like, Xander, I go, it's been like
six weeks since you've seen another friend. I said, I'm sorry,
but you're gonna you might have to come up with
some stuff to do.
Speaker 1: He's going to do it. He's not going to go like, no,
I only want to.
Speaker 3: Make tiktoks, right, And then I have to say, you know,
we'll have fun. You guys can swim next door, or
I'll play new phone hoods. Remember the card game I
told you about. I go, I'll play a game with
you guys.
Speaker 2: And he was like, oh, okay, and I and I said,
and also it's not endless like he'd come home for
a few hours. When you talk to him like that,
does he give you any kind of pushback at all?
Speaker 3: Little he doesn't. Eventually he just well, I don't I
don't give an option. I've already told the mom that
he's welcome to come here. I'm not going to go,
oh you're not comfortable with that, okay, let me. So
I was like, good, well that's what's happening. So getting
a good mood about it, right right, Yeah, he's coming over,
and you need a friend, put on your texting.
Speaker 1: You need to do something with other people.
Speaker 3: Say so okay. So he goes, okay, whatever, Okay. So
then Matt comes over almost from minute one, already having
fun like it was like not a problem. Then I
had to draw. Oh.
Speaker 1: Then so the mom comes in and we chit chat
for a while.
Speaker 3: I love her so much, and she and by the way,
her son is the same way, like she wouldn't even
be a feend by this because he gets and we
were talking about this, they've all gotten into such ruts like.
Speaker 1: They just don't I do anything.
Speaker 3: And her son he plays a lot of tennis with her,
and he's gotten very like just used to kind of
hanging out with her and hanging out with my family
and just goes and just wants to play tennis with her.
Speaker 1: He hasn't seen any of them.
Speaker 3: He saw one other friend for like one afternoon, but
they get so used to not doing anything, so anyway,
so then she leaves, So then I go and I
have to drive Albe somewhere.
Speaker 1: I come back. They were in the pool for a
long time. Then they came back.
Speaker 3: Then there was NonStop laughter, like they were clearly having
the best time.
Speaker 1: And then they were like, hey, do you want to
play the game?
Speaker 3: And I said yeah, and then and then they I
had ordered him, I'd ordered a bunch of pizza and stuff,
pizza and wings, you know, because I'm a really good mom.
I'm always overdoing it whenever there's like.
Speaker 1: A and I'm like, you're like a dance monkey. Oh
my god.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I want to make it the best goddamn
playdate anybody's ever playdated.
Speaker 1: At, like, which never does any good. No, I know.
I'm like, I'm now, you're exhaust What do you want
on your pizza? And MA get you your own pizza?
What do you dream about? It's like cheese. I'm like,
come on, it's kind of mommy, you pineapple and all
of us Google, go for it. I don't care. We
don't like that pizza, but I'll get it just for you.
Get your own pizza. You just want cheese.
Speaker 2: I know some of these brownie cookie things Domino's come
out with. Let's get too, Let's have two orders of each,
have your own order nine pieces each. And he's like, wow,
I'm exhausted from Xander's mom.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, do you guys want to make a TikTok?
To make a TikTok?
Speaker 2: And now you don't even get any relief because you're
trying to do the song.
Speaker 3: And right I'm having the play date. You can't believe
I'm standing at a playdate. I set it up, I'm
figuring out.
Speaker 1: I'm putting.
Speaker 3: I'm putting together the itinerary like Julie from The Love Boat.
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay. Then at at four point thirty on
the lido deck, there's gonna be new phone who is?
Speaker 2: And at six point thirty, we're gonna do a dance
party in the living room. If you don't want to
do it, you stay in your cabin like that's on you.
Speaker 1: But there's fun to be had out of here. Scavenger hunt, sure,
step right up. So okay.
Speaker 3: So anyway, they have such a good time, right, and
then we do then we eat dinner, and we play
this game, and then they want to sleep over. So
of course I'm like so happy for sure, Like Xander
ends up having the best time. Oh meanwhile, and Sadie
had a great time too. But also meanwhile, Sadie was like,
I said, why don't you invite over your friend who
you know, let's make this a real party. Well, Xander's
having Mac over, so you know, I mean, he's just
gonna end up wanting to play with me and my friend.
Speaker 1: I mean, she's just got to puss on, as you
would like, just yeah, and I knew that.
Speaker 3: The reason why was she's just feeling put out by
the fact that Xander was going to have a friend over.
And when she has her friend over, Xander is way
more outgoing, so he horns in on that, right, But
when he has a friend, he doesn't really let Sadie
horn in on them. Oh he doesn't, not really does
she try?
Speaker 1: Not really? That's why she just does her own thing.
Speaker 3: But so she's like so she's acting depressed, so it's like, yeah.
Speaker 1: Whack them all. I'm like, oh, this one's.
Speaker 3: Finally connecting with somebody. But now I got to deal
with her a bad attitude, you know.
Speaker 1: I know, it's so exhausting all to get one thing
on the books.
Speaker 3: All they get one time that they're hanging out with
somebody because I don't, I have to break up this
like they have no social life, and so we.
Speaker 2: Have to do this until at least January. I'm gonna
I know, I don't understand what I mean. I'm glad
you brought this up because I have the same issues
with Sonny. Jesus, this kid, it's the same as what
your friend was saying, Like he leans on me most
of the time to do stuff. Last night, it was
like eighty nine degrees outside at ten o'clock at night.
I'm in my pajamas. He comes in, You want to
go for a walk? Walk? What this kid? He's like, yeah,
I got I got too much energy. That's the other
thing is he has a lot of energy. He has
to get out, and he wanted to go for a walk,
and you know, and then I feel like, yeah, he's right.
He didn't do much today. He didn't get a lot
of energy out all right, Like what else am I doing?
Speaker 1: It's you know, a.
Speaker 2: Graded steps on the pool. That's what I said, you know,
but no he wants to. He's I'll just go by myself.
Then I'm like no, no, And then of course Adam
walks by and goes, I'll let him go. Put give
him a flashlight. He's fine, just go up the street
and back. Sonny like no. So then I feel like
I have to go.
Speaker 1: You know, Adam won't go with him.
Speaker 2: That's what Sonny says. Sonny goes, why don't you go
with me? And he's like, well, now, listen, a mom
can go.
Speaker 1: I know. It's just I'm like that, there's gonna be
a reason. All right, listen, sit down, son let me
let me tell you something. Mom can go.
Speaker 2: Right, Ask her again, go ask her again. She needs
a sob story one more time, you know. And then
it's like, well maybe we should take Phil And I
was like no, all right.
Speaker 1: So then we went on a walk and he's like
the story of my life. No, all right, all right,
it is right. I mean you know the other thing too,
with the first response is no to everything.
Speaker 2: And then I'm like, all right, all right, I know
the thing is is I ground Natalia for a day.
Speaker 1: The other day because she left a huge mess in the.
Speaker 2: Theater, right I remember, yes, Oh, in the theater. A
different story, different story. I said, that's it grounded, and
then I leave. I was here right, or that was
something else that was.
Speaker 1: The the making a cake and then taking off. Fucking
I forgot about that nightmare. Yeah.
Speaker 2: See, she has this tradition of leaving a mess, mess,
a mess, thinking I'm just gonna come right in, and
so she left another mess and I said, okay, then
you're not. You know, because every day after school she'd
go on a walk with her friend Devin around that
the you know, neighborhood come back.
Speaker 1: But this time I was like.
Speaker 2: But but then I'm I'm torn because they're in COVID
and she's like, please, I learned my lesson, Please I haven't.
Speaker 1: I've been stuck in this house, you know. And she's
got a point.
Speaker 2: You know, she's been She's been in the house every
day doing her schoolwork, not getting not doing anything. And
she's the most outgoing social butterfly. And I can't contain
that sometimes and I'm like and then I look like, okay,
all right, all right, leave me alone, go out.
Speaker 1: So Sonny is the same way and he won't.
Speaker 2: He doesn't, like we've talked about before, he doesn't have
his friends to come over. He doesn't want to have
his friends come over. He doesn't want to feel like
a host. He likes being able to just play with
them online and when they be like you done got
yah right, I've had enough of you buy so it's
it it And I get that, and I get his
friends are that way as well. And like a lot
of the boys, don't, you know, they don't walk, they
don't hang out with their friends like the girls are.
I drive around the neighborhood, I see all the girls
walking together. Never see any of the boys really, And
it's but let's say Sonny wants to have a walk
at night. He's fourteen, Yeah, can't he just he has
friends in the neighborhood, right, not very close like that?
Oh she does.
Speaker 3: Is there anybody that's like even just a tiny bit far,
that's like five minutes away that you could just go
that their parents could drop them off and they could
just go for a walk.
Speaker 2: And yeah, not at ten o'clock at night, but yeah, yeah,
I mean in general, Yeah, but he doesn't want to.
He feels that if he does that then it's gonna,
you know, lead into his I don't know, relaxation time, right.
Speaker 1: Yes, what is that? What the hell?
Speaker 2: That's all I do is relax right, that's your life
is a relax right, I know. I mean it's insanity.
And I feel like he's constantly looking at me, you know,
to do stuff. You want to go outside and play basketball? No,
I don't want to go in the pool. No?
Speaker 1: Right, how my friend over to do that? Right? And
then I can't say no because I feel guilty, Like
what else? Am I?
Speaker 2: All?
Speaker 1: Right? Okay?
Speaker 2: You know I always say, you know, it's a good exercise.
Sonny keeps me going.
Speaker 1: And then you get torn. I know you do too,
where you're like, I mean, there's.
Speaker 3: A part of you that's like, well this is a
I mean, later I'm going to look back and go, oh,
I should have spent more time with him when he
wanted to hang out with me. There's going to come
a time where he doesn't want to hang out with me.
But then there's also a part of you that's like,
but this is not normal that he wants to hang
out with me all the time exactly.
Speaker 2: But then I think, like, is it because of you know,
he probably would be doing hanging out with his friends more.
I mean, I know he would be. But now he
doesn't even want to do basketball. The basketball is starting up,
doing small groups, her volleyball starting up, and she's going
she's already working out two days a week with her
coach one on one. Now she's got this whole. The
tryouts are coming, they're going to do the tryouts. Same
with him now with the basketball, and he's like, no,
I think I'm done. I don't want to, you know,
And I get it, but I get why he doesn't
want to do it because you know, he's not the
star athlete in basketball, but that was what was giving
him a lot of getting his exercise, getting his social
you know needs met And now he doesn't even want
to do that. And it just kind of scares me,
Like I don't know what am I supposed to do?
And now I'm like, okay, what else he wants to do?
Speaker 1: Track?
Speaker 2: He wants to do track, but I keep telling him, well,
then sign up for track at school. They are doing,
they're doing little things.
Speaker 1: He doesn't do it. What am I supposed to do?
Speaker 2: Be that crazy, controlling mom that jumps in and says
all right, I'll sign you up, you know, I just
I don't know what else to do with with It's hard.
Speaker 1: I had to with LB.
Speaker 3: I mean it was a year later because it was
this year, but when she didn't want to do basketball,
and I knew the reason why, very similar to Sonny,
was because she wasn't pulled up to JV. Remember from
she played on the fresh soft team and the other
girls got called up to the big show JV.
Speaker 2: A stupid it's not even varsity, but whatever, it's the
next step for them for sophomore year. These other girls
were being asked and she was just like, oh, okay,
I'm not It's not about the love of basketball. I
know Sonny is more loves it more. But the point
is then.
Speaker 3: She was like, well I want I think I want
to cheerleading because her friends are doing it and asking
her to do it.
Speaker 1: But same thing where she wasn't.
Speaker 2: Going to take the initiative and sign up, and it
was I had to keep digging and going, well, so
what are you gonna do? Are you going to play basketball?
I don't think so. Well are you trying out for cheerleading?
Speaker 1: M h, I don't know, but she was the night
before no that she was going to miss.
Speaker 2: The I remember the registration and I said, I'll be
If you're going to leave yourself with nothing, then why
don't you at least give yourself the opportunity to have
a choice like sign up?
Speaker 3: She went, I mean at that point, I was like,
I can't do it for you. Yeah, so sign up
if you want to even have an opportunity. And then
she did, but at the last second.
Speaker 2: Right, and she loved it. See that's what I'm gonna
have to do with him. There's the track. There's also
a mountain bike team, which I think he would like,
and he's talked about it. But again it's like it's
all talk. And then when I say did you sign
up or do you want to sign up or anything
like that, no, really, or I will. It's either no
or I will. And I told him, I said, you
have to get a sport going. You know, there are
some things that are starting back up. You got to
get into it. What are his friends doing? I really don't.
His one good friend is doing mountain biking, and then
his other friends who are great at basketball are doing basketball. Well,
they're doing their you know, their drills again and they're
getting back into it. But you know, the team that
he was on the travel team he was on, they're
all going back. The coach asked me to Sonny want
to come back, and because they got jipped out of
going to Vegas this day, he said he's gonna make
it so that they can go next year. And Sonny
was excited when he heard that. And then it came
down to it and he was like, no, I'm gonna pass.
I think I'm gonna do track.
Speaker 1: Oh really yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 2: And here's where I want Adam to step up because
this would be perfect for him to get involved. That's
the thing that Adam needs to do with Sonny. Get
him going, get him involved, getting interested in sports. Talk
to him, you know, kind of make him do it.
If he's not going to do basketball, do something else.
But why do I have to I have to be
his best friend, his bff and his parent getting him
back into the sports.
Speaker 3: You know, It's just it's I wonder if this is
a common thing right now. I wonder if a lot
of us are feeling like we have to be everything
to our kids and continue having careers right and keep
up our own friendships.
Speaker 2: Keep up our own mental health. Keep up our physical health.
Like it's a freaking lot right now. I swim because
of you the other day.
Speaker 1: How did it go? Is that right now?
Speaker 2: I thought of you the whole time, And you know,
it's a whole cashat it is. It's a big casina,
big casino. You got your hair up, get it wet,
put it in the shower, take a shower. It's forced
me to take more showers. Yeah, that's true. I'm never
even cleaner.
Speaker 1: No, this hout went.
Speaker 2: I said, I'm going for a swim after dinner. I'll
so too from both of them and the dog.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, this is.
Speaker 2: Not what if Stephanie say she did, Like how did
she get away from the kids?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Everybody was out there with me, And you're right,
you can't.
Speaker 2: Listen to anything, so all right, I know it's a
that's the worst part.
Speaker 1: It's like I need I'm Badlynnette.
Speaker 3: Like, even when I'm walking the dog, I have I'll
have like four things going. I'll be playing a game
on my phones while I walk and listening to a
podcast and then just chit chatting with the neighbor or
talking on the phone, or I go back and forth.
I can't my mind can never be quiet now, I know,
even just walking the dog. Honestly, even just walking the
dog and listening to a podcast not enough business for
my mind. Right, gotta get something else. My mind needs
a lot going on. My mind's like this is all.
Speaker 2: I need a challenge. Yeah, don't you want to be
playing scrabble. Don't you have some scrabble games that are unfinished?
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, I know, open as grabble.
Speaker 2: My favorite is watching ninety Day Fiance while I do
give myself manicure and patticure while talking on the phone
to Wendy and in the middle.
Speaker 1: Playing Fortnite in between. I was doing that the other day,
going what the hell you know?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what are you listening to? Any podcast recommendation?
Speaker 3: Well, I it's bad. I am really so easily bored.
Speaker 1: I try.
Speaker 3: I've tried a bunch of ones that people told me
are good, like something about a priest, smoke screen, smoke
screen priest.
Speaker 1: Some wasn't there.
Speaker 2: Something from the Dirty John people, dirty Sally or so
I don't know some girl's name, oh that we saw
so many.
Speaker 1: One of our people on the board said, dirty Sally.
I'll have to learn to the Allie it's something like that.
She said. It was from the people that did.
Speaker 2: That wondering dirty dirty John and the other one that
he did.
Speaker 1: And by the way, did you see the Broderick Yeah?
Did you like it? I think I watched most of it.
Speaker 3: I lost interest in that too because and then but
I did go back and watch the Lifetime movie you
did and reminded myself how great it is. So good,
So goll in love with Meredith Baxter over again. Oh
my god, she's good great, so that something good came
out of it.
Speaker 1: Remember when we had what's the girl on?
Speaker 2: That was in prison with yes sort and skilled rewind?
Speaker 1: Yes, I loved her.
Speaker 3: She was from a reality show. I can't remember her name.
And she told us how how Meredith.
Speaker 1: I'mond or something?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Right, and she was on a big like flavor of love.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yeah new York she was on
with New York, right, I guess I don't remember.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: She was telling us remember about how uh Betty Betty
Broderick was had was like the boss, like a total
boss at the prison, and how you had to like
go through like three she had like three people like
you had to basically go through her prison publicist to.
Speaker 1: Get to talk to her. Yeah, like could sit down.
Yeah right, she had like people protecting her.
Speaker 2: And that's crazy.
Speaker 1: I forgot about that.
Speaker 2: I forgot about the show. I was wanting to watch it,
and I thought about you the other day. It was
like I never asked Stephanie when she saw it.
Speaker 3: But now people are talking about watching The Vow, which
is about that sex cult that I got recruited for.
Speaker 1: I love that story. Where is that? What do you mean?
What's the Vow? Where is the Vow? Is that next Nexium? Yes? Thing,
I've listened to all the podcasts about it.
Speaker 2: Right, So remember when I do you remember the story
of how that girl from Smallwood, absolutely small.
Speaker 3: Yeah, small Smallville, Smallville, Smallville, Allison, the main girl from
the story of the of the Ringleader, the Ringleader, Alison
mack Y, How she had direct message to me on
Twitter many years ago, right in like two thousand.
Speaker 1: And nine or what was like, Hey, do you want
to meet up for coffee? That what you did? You
didn't know that she was in a cult at the time, you.
Speaker 3: Know, So at first I was so excited because I'm like,
I've never been dne by like an actual celebrity.
Speaker 1: Why is this girl?
Speaker 3: She was like, hey, oh she I think she told
me like to friend her because she wanted to message me,
and I was like, what what.
Speaker 1: Blue check check?
Speaker 3: So I friend her and then she's like, oh, thanks
for like friending me or whatever. Now I wish she'd
said something like, oh, I'm a fan of your podcast.
So I didn't know how she knew me because she
was just like, hey, I was wondering, I wanted to
tell you about this. Uh uh, like I not program,
but like this.
Speaker 1: Group I'm in career women or something. Yeah, but it did.
Speaker 3: She didn't say it for career women. If I want
to tell you about this, it's like And then I said, oh,
is it a charity? And she goes, not exactly, it's
like a woman empowerment kind of thing. And I was like, oh, boy,
you know you're coming to the wrong place any kind
of empowerment shit, Yeah, you're barking up the wrong tree.
So before I knew anything about sex cult, I was
already like, this sounds like for a joiner, not for
someone like me.
Speaker 1: But I was like, as soon as I heard, it.
Speaker 2: Sounded like some kind of like thing that was going
to take place in a conference room at a Sheraton
and I was like, I'm out.
Speaker 1: So then I said, well, oh, so then I said.
Speaker 2: Something where she where. She told me it didn't sound appetizing,
so I kind of ignored her. And then some time
went by and then she reached out again and she
was like, hey, can I meet you for coffee?
Speaker 1: And then I believe that John.
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't know what this thing is,
but I'm not interested. She was creeping me out, so
I ignored her. And then years later John was like,
oh my god, that's insane. And she had used the
name I'll put back up the directors recruited for cults.
Speaker 1: I know, well, you got to look at yourself. Are
you sexy enough? I don't think so. I guess not.
Is it so? I think it's so funny.
Speaker 2: I think it's great. I think it's hilarious. Keith Ranary, Yeah,
I could have had a brand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you literally you literally could.
Speaker 2: Have a brand. Oh my god. I loved that podcast.
There was like two podcasts about it. I think there
was an episode about it.
Speaker 3: And then one was a podcast yeah that was uh,
not sponsored by, but that was like brought to you
by and then they were the same ones that did
They did a couple of different podcasts about different things. Yeah,
and they did like six episodes on Nexium. Yeah it
was really good, right, that's yeah, they weren't the same
people that did the Dream. Right about the multi.
Speaker 2: Those people, I keep waiting for something to come out
of them. No, that was great too, the Dream. Yeah,
but then I and then I was, so the vow
is the TV show?
Speaker 1: It is?
Speaker 2: It's a TV show. Yeah, that's based on the that thing?
Speaker 3: Really? Yeah, people are I think, so, oh write that down. Yeah,
everybody seems to be loving it.
Speaker 1: Because I love a good cult. Who doesn't you know
what I was thinking.
Speaker 2: To myself the other day. I was watching Italian her
friend walking over to my car down by the beach,
and her friend who's adorable, and I love she's got
that all American, all Los Angeles like California blonde beauty,
like she's got that like little freckles. Her hair is
thick and long, like almost down to her ass. And
then there's a Natalia like the brunette. And I'm looking
at them walking over to my car and they're birken stocks,
and I'm like, God, is it wrong? For me to
think that my daughter and her friend look like the
Manson family girls.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I did not know where you were
going with that. I said that to Adam. I smarted.
Speaker 3: I thought you were gonna say, like, is it wrong
that I think my daughter and her friend are so
beautiful they could be models?
Speaker 1: And you're like, is that that I think they could
be part of the Manson family.
Speaker 2: I was like, I said that to Adam and he's like, yes,
you're right, they do look like Manson.
Speaker 1: I don't know why. It just hit me. I was like, yeah,
they look like a part of the Manson family. That
is so funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I do love a good cult. I know
I need a new podcast to listen to. And I
can't stop watching that Ninety Day Fiance. It's horrible. Like
I want to get in bed. I want to watch
like a drama and it's calling me. I can't, you know,
like on Sunday night you want to watar drama on
HBO or something, and I get in bed. I'm like,
I'm going to watch something. It just I just it
goes right into I can't. As soon as I pull
up Apple TV, I see it up there. There's just
too many shows. It's too good.
Speaker 3: Well, remember I told you that John and I kept
trying to get into Breaking Bad. Yeah, years ago when
it was first out, and then we'd watch. We watched
like half a season, and then we gave up because
I don't know, I think the twins were young or
something and it was like too hard, right, and then
we tried again, and then we tried again, and then
finally we're in now I know you and Sonny started
watching it and then he binge and watched the entire
phrased right through it. Well, so we're in season four,
and it was so funny because I don't know if
this was end of season three or season four, but
we're watching this episode and by the way, it's so good,
and it just keeps getting better. Now that we're in
season four, it's just like every episode is like, holy shit,
I believe it.
Speaker 1: This is never Jumped the Shark, No, throughout the whole
all of it.
Speaker 3: Right, So, but we're watching it and we're like, we're
watching this one episode it's called the Fly We're trying
to kill. But it's so funny because we're watching it.
We're both like, I'm like, I just the one thing happened,
I said, he falls off, Hey, Walt falls off like
the second story of their little meth lab place. Doesn't
get hurt, I swear to guy. I look at John,
I go, is this a dream sequence?
Speaker 1: Because everybody had it. Don't get hurt, Like, he didn't
get hurt.
Speaker 2: His glasses don't break, he doesn't break a tooth. He
falls off onto a cement floor and hits a railing
on the way down, and he finds like he just
kind of gets up. He doesn't have a scrape. And
then John's like, I know that is weird. And then
it goes on and I'm like, what is going on?
I go, what is happening?
Speaker 1: This is really annoying. So then like a few.
Speaker 2: Minutes later, John shows me this article and it's like
the Fly is like the worst rated episode of any
of the seasons, of any of the episodes. Everybody hates
this episode. And I was like, oh my god, can
we just skip it?
Speaker 1: Then?
Speaker 3: Is nothing going to happen? And he goes, no, we
got it. We have to see what happens. But I
fell asleep and then later I wake up and I said, okay,
so what happened. Let's move on to the next episode
and he's like, well, it's kind of a thing where
like you determine, like what you think happened.
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, what is at the finale
of the soprise? Like, no, averybody got time to determine
what happened? How I interpret the stupid fly?
Speaker 2: So did they kill Yeah, It's like he had a
brain aneurysm while he was writing that episode.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 2: I told Sonny so many times, like, wait till we
get to the fly up, you're gonna hate it.
Speaker 1: I'll just fast forward through it.
Speaker 2: And he was like all right, And then we started
watching it and I fast forward through some of it,
but then said He's like no, no, no, stop, stop stop.
He loves the banter between him and Jesse, and there
was a lot of that. So then I was like,
after I watched it the second time, I was like, oh,
it's not that bad, but yeah, I should have I
should have warned you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But then as soon as that episode ended, the rest
of the next few episodes have been nothing. Bill are
all good, oh so good, but I feel so late
to the party. It's really hard to have a conversation
and go, hey, watch that break in Bad.
Speaker 1: That's a good show. People are like, I what.
Speaker 2: I remember when you said I watched a show when
Gary was our producer.
Speaker 1: I don't remember what show it was.
Speaker 2: I think it was Breaking Bad because I came on late, okay,
And Gary's like, yeah, you're so two thousand and four
right now, and you go, literally the year LB.
Speaker 3: Was born, that's probably what happened. We started watching Paradise
Hotel or whatever.
Speaker 1: Remember that show?
Speaker 3: Yes, And we were like, yeah, that's all we have
the mental capacity for right now, especially when you have
a breastfeeding and watching Paradise, staying up all night to
watch Paradise Hotel.
Speaker 1: Right, But then you.
Speaker 2: Go, hey, Lynette, there's a show about a bunch of
teenagers hanging out at the peach pit called Beverly.
Speaker 1: You should check it out. It's so true.
Speaker 2: And Game of Thrones was another one, like you didn't
watch it now? I watched it, like I started watching
it after the day after the finale.
Speaker 1: Right right right. I never watched Lost. I never watched Lost. Okay.
Can I just tell you what an addict I am? Yeah, so.
Speaker 3: I I have. I've brought back the vice of sugar.
I've been you know, I've been eating sugar, trying to
completely beginning of pre beginning of COVID, I was eating
candy all the time like it was Halloween, Yeah, every day, right,
But that stopped. But then I get like, oh, I
have a certain favorite thing that I've rediscovered, and this
is so embarrassing. Yes, masturbating while eating saltwater.
Speaker 2: Taffy, Yes, because you have to multitask. Yes, I'm like,
I don't know which one's bringing me more pleasure right now?
Speaker 1: While listening to podcasts about cults. Oh my god, what
a turn on.
Speaker 2: I don't know which part of that would make me
come faster. My magic wand the licorice taffy or the
Colt podcast the conclusion of the Polt coffee. Right, that
sounds like a party. Yeah, okay, go ahead. So I
love saltwater taffy.
Speaker 3: But then I get like, I used to be really
into jelly bellies, the jelly beans, but I only like
crazy flavors.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: So you go to a candy store and find like
the offbeat out amaretto, Right, you know, So I'm like, oh, this,
this saltwater Taffy's good. But what would be even better
is if I could get my hands on some of
these like offbeat flavors. So then I literally went on
a little tear where I was like looking it up
on eBay, looking it up on Amazon, and then I
found this Yes, but then you it's all basic. It's
all like the basic flavors, right, you know. And then
I read this one thing on like this is what
a deep dive I did. I'm like, there's a place
called Taffy Town, but they won't put together you have
to order each flavor individually. Anyway, long story short, They're like, well,
we'll send you this mix, but we're going to mix
the most popular flavors.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, bitch, that's the whole that defeats the purpose.
I want to not popular. Can't you do a collection?
Curate me your least popular flavors.
Speaker 2: Like gasoline mint? How about that sounds good? Yeah, grass right,
go on give me something I can Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So anyway, I found this place. It just reminded myself
because I was looking when I was looking for podcasts
I'm listening to. I found the email from the place
I ordered, and I was like, I've got to tell
Lynette about my embarrassment. I ordered from Candy man, seaside
candy man aside candy. Isn't that a serial killer candy? Yeah,
seaside candy man. That sounds like one. Yeah, I'm pitching that. Yeah,
I don't have to have a sun a waiver.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Anyway, I found all these They have all the crazy
flavors and you can order just a dollar's worth of
like each one. So I put together this and I
was literally like embarrassed as if I was being caught drinking,
like I was doing it on my computer, and I
kept I kept changing screens like if John would walk by,
I'm like, he doesn't need to see that. I'm looking
up like pineapple mint, Like he'd be like, what are
you doing?
Speaker 2: Uh like coffee blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: Ordering my taffy. Right, that's good. I ordered thirty five
dollars worth of taffy.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Wow, Stephan, you got a problem.
Speaker 3: I know, I know, And wow the bad news. It'll
be gone in a few days. It's not like it's
gonna last me a few months. And that's because you're
eating it all.
Speaker 1: Not the kids. Oh they don't. They're not even interested.
Speaker 3: Nadia Exander can't eat it because they have braces, they
can't eat taffy. Elvey doesn't care for it. John's not
really a candy person.
Speaker 1: That was just me. What's with guys not being into
candy or saying they're not into candy?
Speaker 3: But then certain things you can't keep in the house,
and then John will do this, Oh.
Speaker 1: No, that's semi sweet. Really, that's semi sweet. That's his excuse.
So does he like chocolate?
Speaker 3: No, not really, No, he'll leave chocolate alone. But John
is not an addict, but he's compulsive.
Speaker 1: So he will.
Speaker 3: If I buy a bunch of snacks that he likes,
he will eat them all. Really about any.
Speaker 1: Like red vines and taffy and stuff.
Speaker 3: No, not that, But I'm saying, like, let's say I
buy some like cheese popcorn, like yeah, from Trader Joe's,
and he likes these parmesan toasts. I could buy three
packets of them, and he'll eat them all on one day.
Yeah wow, Like he'll eat one pack of it while he's,
you know, getting angry about politics, and then it's like
the wrappers start piling up, like and then pretty soon
he's into the second one, and.
Speaker 1: Then I'm like, what the fuck? A ah, the parmesan.
Speaker 3: Toast and he's like oops, and then he does this.
He goes, Oh, don't worry about it. I'm going to
go to the store and I'll replace him.
Speaker 1: No, you won't. You haven't been to the store since
nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 2: Ye can't even find the clam sauce. Not going anywhere?
Speaker 1: Right? Does he ever go to the grocery store? Never?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Yeah, never he every once in a while.
Speaker 2: At the beginning of COVID, he was like, we're in lockdown.
Speaker 1: That's it. Nobody leaves the house. This is like a
bomb shelter. I go to call.
Speaker 3: I take the risk. I'm gonna, you know, in full
like riot gear. I'm going to go to Costco. I'm
gonna get us food to last for two months. Right
where are you gonna put it on? It doesn't matter.
We'll buy four freezers, you know. So we have a
freezer out. So he goes to Costco. He buys all
this stuff. Our whole little we have like this little
breakfast nook where there's a table and chairs, but now
it's all piled up with like boxes of like ood
on noodles, boxes chips, gatorade.
Speaker 1: In case in case, shit go sideways exactly.
Speaker 3: You know, sparkling waters, all this stuff, Okay, and then
then like you know, a month goes by, we don't
eat any of that stupid food.
Speaker 1: Because it's like it's not the good Costco food.
Speaker 3: It's like it's like you bian food that you that
you boil in like a package like that's frozen that
like you really have to be at.
Speaker 1: The bottom of the barrel, like you have to be
so high.
Speaker 2: We'd have to have not eat, we'd have to be
breaking a fast and have nothing else to eat.
Speaker 1: Like what is this chicken medallions with in a mushroom
something what you're talking about? Yeah, it doesn't even come
with rice or anything. And you're like it's in a
weird packaging.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, right, Yeah that looked good to him because
he was you know, I don't know, so all of
that is in our outside freezer. But then, but then
what will happen is like we'll be fully out of chips.
Speaker 1: And he's.
Speaker 3: Basically named himself like the Costco guy, like I have.
So he's like, oh, looks like it's time for another
Costco run.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, don't buy any weird food while you're there.
Speaker 3: And then I'm like, we don't really need to go
to Costco because we're not we're not filling the bomb
shelter with more of this.
Speaker 1: You can't buy any more food. What are you going
to buy at Costco?
Speaker 3: It's like, well, sparkling water, okay, but I could get
that at the grocery store. It's not worth right. What
it would help me is if I sent him to Ralphs.
But he's like, he's not the Ralphs guy's Costco?
Speaker 1: What is with the Costco with dudes too?
Speaker 2: Like Jimmy is like on the collar on the cover
of Costco magazine for fuck's sakes, like that it goes
to Costco like it's going on a style right time, right,
I don't get it.
Speaker 3: And you can tell John not to get food and
he'll be like okay, and then he'll come back with
like a huge thing of blackberries and he thinks he's
he thinks he's helping me because he knows I eat
blackberries in my hot cereal every morning.
Speaker 1: Uh huh. But I buy a small thing of blackberries.
Why do you think that is?
Speaker 3: Because they get moldy and like you can't have I
don't need a gross of blackberries that are going to
be moldy in like four days. I buy enough for
what I eat, and then I go back to the
store and get more like normal people.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, but then I can't.
Speaker 2: If I say, like, honey, I told you not to
get food, like I don't need this many blackberries, He'll
be like.
Speaker 1: Oh really, I mean I was.
Speaker 3: I'm looking out for you, like you eat blackberries and
you're hot cereal every night.
Speaker 2: I gotta take a silk sh hour now, just for
your blackberries.
Speaker 1: And they want to be a hero. Yes, uh yeah, yeah,
well all right, that's it.
Speaker 2: Thank you Caylin for coming in on a labor day. Yeah,
you're a parent, now, don't f it up.