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Great and discuss this Holy War week BYU versus Utah
obviously has gone back and forth over the last fifty years.
Lavell era dominant the Bronco Menden Hall Kyle Whittingham Urban era.
It was kind of fifty to fifty over the Independent era.
Nine straight wins for the University of Utah but BYU's
on a winning streak right now and they want to
send Kyle Whittingham into retirement with his third straight loss,
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Let's get out to the hotline to discuss a specialist
in this holy war, in this rivalry game, we've got
the best BYU receiver in BYU football history. Austin Colly
on the line, Ac, How you living, man? How's a
Rivalry Week treating you thus far?
Speaker 4: I'm loving it? Been looking forward to it, man, I'm excited. Brother, Yeah, Like, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, how look, work, life, family, you know all of that.
You have to allocate bandwidth to it in Rivalry Week?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: How often are you getting texted, emailed?
Speaker 4: Called? You know?
Speaker 3: In your general conversations about this game.
Speaker 4: Uh, well, you know, I'd say most of uh, most
of my uh both my partners and most of the
associates and and and my employees here at the at
the office are all Utah fans. So uh you know
I'm getting I'm getting, uh, I'm getting my fair fair
share of trash talk, and uh you know I love it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting, right Like it's a it's.
Speaker 3: A volatile, vitriolic robbery for the fans and and sometimes
for the players. How do you view this game as
a former player you've played in this, it seems like
you you embraced the vitriol, the trash talk, all of that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I it's what makes college football college football. Man, Like,
this is what this is what it's all about, right
like the history between the two teams, the hatred, the animosity,
the you know, the back and forth. Like I this
is what this is what college football is made of,
right here, right Like if you could, if you could
take somebody who doesn't know what college football is all about,
right like, this would be the week to kind of
show them.
Speaker 3: There's been iconic quotes over the years from players both
on Utah's and BYU side, the magic happens still pierces
the hearts and minds of Utah fans everywhere, and obviously
BYU fans they utter those same words magic happens after
big wins. Take us back to that interview after that
big time win. I know you've been asked this question
many times two thousand and seven, fourth and eighteen, you
guys convert obviously BYU ends up winning that game. What
was going through your mind when you were getting interviewed
in that moment? And why did you utter the magic happens?
Speaker 2: Uh refrain, Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I I uh, you know, at that point in time,
I believed in preparation, right, Like that was such a
big part of my game is preparing. You know. I
kind of had a mantra that I that I had
developed on my church mission that you know, that had
no regrets and and uh, you know, I kind of
took that same mantra and added to my two uh
you know, to to my life on the field. And
you know, the the idea was that you know, if
if you prepare, you make sure you're prepared, opportunities going
to come. And when that opportunities comes if you if
you put in the preparation and you've been doing what
you know, what what is asked of you by by
the man above, right, Like that combination is gonna is
going to produce some fruit, right kind of going to
produce some success. So uh uh you know, I've been
a constant believer in that that everything works out the
way that it should as long as you're doing what
you're supposed to be doing.
Speaker 3: Obviously, Uh, I think what was your record all time
versus Utah in the rivalry game?
Speaker 2: Do you just get that one win in two thousand
and seven?
Speaker 4: Note grade one, one and two one and two? Ben?
Speaker 2: What happened in the last right?
Speaker 3: Like you know when b YU loses these games, typically
they're pretty competitive, right, they go back and forth. You know,
there's uh there's typically controversy that that swells around these games.
Speaker 2: And you know prior and in postgame and during the game.
Speaker 3: So what happened in the games in which you you
guys just fell short, Well, it.
Speaker 4: Doesn't help you play the two best Utah teams in history,
in the history of the school.
Speaker 2: Right, Oh wait right?
Speaker 4: Perfect? Oh wait yeah, yeah, the the the two best
teams in uh yeah, in Utah, his stree. You know,
we were we were pretty good four you know, uh,
probably the best five and six team in the country.
Uh so not great, went and played Alex Smith and
Eric Weddle and and uh Paris Warren and all those guys.
They went on to go to Fiesta Bowl and win,
and then yeah, then then played the eight or sorry seventeen.
I went on to play Alabama the Sugar Bowl and
beat them. Had you know, four number one or first
round draft picks on that team at the time. So
you know, it's kind of lucky. The draw, just bad luck.
That's what happened.
Speaker 3: Then awesome calling here on ESPN the fan. But you
did get that win obviously in O seven, and you
were you were coming off the mish, and you probably
weren't running on all cylinders coming off the mish, you know,
struggling through you know, the the post mission legs, et cetera.
But that was an iconic win, like when we talk
about iconic wins, oh seven, uh in you know Max Hall,
you know going off in eight, that was a big one.
You in the in the post game in O seven,
and so these are these are memories that fans that
created a generation of fans, right, And in your upbringing
in in the Collie home, obviously you guys were were
BYU fans, and so these moments, I believe they create
generational fans, these wins, these games create generational fans for
either side of of the robbery. So like, growing up,
what do you remember about this rivaly game? And obviously
you had a four you have a dad that that
played in this game, but what do you recall about it?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: To be honest, Ben, I don't remember anything about this game.
I was a I was a Pac ten only. It
was a Pac ten only household. Right. Growing up in
grown up in California, we didn't watch too many BYU
football games, and so I was unaware of even what
the what the rivalry was all about until my freshman
year right made it made a couple of comments after
playing New Mexico and found out quickly what what this
rivalry meant. After my comments, we're we're you know, uh
hit the airwaves uh and had some unhappy, disgrontal youth
fans coming after me. So UH got got a real
quick lesson, uh of what the rivalry means to a
lot of people in this state. And amongst the entire
fan base for both fan bases. But you know, I've
fallen in love with it. I I now know my
kids now know what that rivalry means. Right, Like they
were getting harassed at at uh at at elementary school,
right crying coming home saying, Johnny just told me that
you're a loser. Uh uh, you know because you played
for BYU and you lost the Utah, et cetera. So
you know, they now have a realistic understanding of what
the rivalry means. And yeah, we look forward to it
every year.
Speaker 3: When you evaluate the rivalry, right nineteen seventy two and
Lavelle took over, like it was dominant all the way
through the early nineties. BYU I think won pretty much
every single one of those games minus two from nineteen
seventy two to nineteen ninety two. All of a sudden
nineteen ninety three that the it just turned right. It
became more of like a fifty to fifty game. From
nineteen ninety three through two thousand and nine, I think
it was like split down the middle. Utah one half
of them, BYU won half of them. And then you
go to twenty ten and Kywittingham and the Utes rattle
off nine straight by us on a two game winning streak.
Speaker 2: Now, when you look at those numbers, like what.
Speaker 3: Stands out to you about whether or not BYU's winning
these games or losing these games over maybe that history.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know what. I can't talk to what's
happened before you know, I got there. But you know,
I think the biggest gap that's happened since two thousand
and nine up until a couple of years ago. I
think that could be directly correlated to the fact that
around that time is when Utah made the jump to
go to the Tack twelve, right, and we at Duyu
stayed as an independent school. Right. I think that has
a lot to do with it, right, I mean, you
look at BYU and the trajectory that we're on now,
don't I don't think it's I don't think it's crazy
to think that. Hey, you know, joining a Power five
conference or a powerful conference like Big twelve helps helps
the recruiting, helps the funding, it helps in marketing, help,
it helps in everything, right, and those types of things
bring a certain energy to the program. I mean, Kilani
has done a phenomenal job of creating that energy, but
it went to a different level once we decided that
we were going to be in the Big twelve, right,
So I think that played a huge part in just
the discrepancy of funding, the discrepancy of recruiting from Utah.
They went and they went to the PAC twelve and
we remained or went to independent.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: But now I think there's there's gonna be a lot
of parody, right given the fact that especially we're the
same conference, pulling from the same recruiting pole.
Speaker 3: So do you feel, like you mentioned parody, will there
be kind of an equivalency, kind of a back and
forth once again? Do you think do you think by
you now, as they were operating for a long time
without as many resources, they kept it competitive obviously in
these games during independence, but.
Speaker 2: Weren't able to come out with victories.
Speaker 3: Do you feel like they're on a better trajectory than
Utah now that they're in the same conference with maybe
an increase in nil funds, you know, finally getting kind
of the weight room, nutrition, medical staff, et cetera. Are
they are they on even footing or do you think
maybe got a leg up on Utah in the near future.
Speaker 4: I don't know, you know, I don't know. I think
I think it's definitely going to be a back and forth, right,
Like these games are always going to be close, except
for the years that I played. Okay, Uh, they're they're
they're always going to be close games.
Speaker 2: Because that's it just got out of hand in the fourth.
Speaker 4: I don't know sure. I mean, what was the final
score there? Lost by twenty So yeah, I think I
think it's it is going to be like I said,
the the the meaning of this rivalry. You're going to
get the best out of both teams. This is why
this is why you know, this week scares all the fans, right,
because you could go either way, and I think we've
seen some crazy things happen, and that's just because of
what the rivalry means. I think the fact that we're
all in the same conference and and combined with the
nil right like a lot of these kids, like I
mean you take a look at you know too, or
at least one of our our star defensive linemen was
playing in Utah last year, right, I mean the fact
that we're so close, uh geographically, and you know, with
with the transfer portal being the way that it is,
with plumbing being the way that it is with it
with the conferences that we're both in, Like, I do
think that there's going to be far more parody across
the two teams, and then it's always going to be
a close game, like unless unless one team has just
a quarterback that is far better than the other. Right, Like,
I do think that a team's success heavily, heavily uh
rests on how great that that kid is under center. Right,
And if one of the years, you know, one of
our schools happens to nab a uh you know, a
single caller, you know, first round draft pick type, you know,
franchise type quarterback, then the knack could sway things a
little bit. But I think for the most part, man,
it's going to be a back and forth NonStop, and
I do think there's going to be an exchange of
of of you know, personnel as well. Give him the
transfer portal because a lot of these kids want to
stay home, close to home in the area. Okay, where's it,
where's the next best spot? All right, what's up north
or it's down south?
Speaker 3: Right, It's funny you bring up Canton town of Asa.
Coming from from Utah.
Speaker 4: To b Yu.
Speaker 3: He actually served his mission in Provo and uh Canton
Town of USA taught Kalani's son, who I think was
like nine at the time and had not been baptized
or something like that, as we ended up baptizing Sun.
So there's there's a lot of cross pollination.
Speaker 4: A god.
Speaker 3: John Henry Daily, then nephew of David Nixon, was playing
at b YU, transfers to Utah. Now he's their best
defensive lineman. So there's there's a lot there's a lot
of cross pollination there.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, and I think that's going to continue to happen.
Like especially a lot of these kids that are that
are home growing here in the state, right, they don't
want to go out of state. I want to stay
in state. Uh and uh. And they're either going to
go to Utah, They're going to go to b a U. Right,
they're unhappy at BYU, they're going to go up to
Utah and vice versa.
Speaker 3: So let's discuss this Bay football team. I imagine you've
been watching this team. You're you've trained some of these
wide receivers over the years. What do you like about
how the team is playing right now? Who stands out
to you from a personnel standpoint that you can highlight
for us.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think, you know, I I've I've
always been optimistic about about Parker Kingston's ceiling and what
he's been able to deliver. I think now that he's
uh you know, uh uh uh an upperclassman who's had
a couple of years under his belt, I think his
confidence is really high. And I think I think Air
Roderick and FESSI have done a great job of working
him into the system right, making sure he's getting his touches,
because I do think he's a very dynamic player. And
then you know, Chase obviously continues to prove he's mister consistent,
mister reliability. And you know, I think LJ is running
a lot better. I'd still like to see him be
a little bit more aggressive, and I honestly, I think
I think the addition that Carson Ryan too is huge, right, Like, Yeah,
I know he doesn't get a ton of touches, but
he's he's good enough for defenses to have that, you know,
account for him right in their scheme, right and at
any point he could go off if needed. So I
do like our offensive weapons. I think Bear has done
an absolutely fantastic job thus far of taking care of
the football, taking care of the football and not trying
to play to outside of him himself, not trying to
do too much. Been super impressed with just his maturity,
his poise, his confidence. It just just the way he's
been able to man as a football game. To be
quite honest, I mean, like to be able to do
as a true freshman is pretty remarkable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you played, You played with what a sophomore John Beck,
you know, young quarterback that had seen playing time as
a as a freshman coming off a mission, and you know,
John went through a refining fire. I don't know if
he's supporting Cash collectively defensively, offensive line. There's a lot
of youth, a lot of talent there, but you know,
it's it's pretty remarkable what Bear has accomplished thus far.
Pretty stoic in nature. And I think his ability to
run the ball. I know that's not the words maybe
a wide receiver once here is that your quarterback is
gonna run the ball twenty two times. But his ability
to run the ball has definitely opened up some things.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, absolutely, When you get a guy like
that that's a threat on the ground, man, that's that's
definitely going to open up a lot to the offense.
And frankly, something that that be, Yeah, that b what
he hasn't had in a couple of years, and I
think I think as kind of relies on that. Right.
Being able to have an athlete back there like a
Jared Hall or like a Taste or whoever, right is
going to add another dynamic. And and you know, the
chuck plays that a Rod does have up this sleever
are are going to be far more successful just because
of the threat that he poses under center and being
able to create with his feet.
Speaker 3: If you had the you know, the opportunity to speak
to this team prior to the Holy War, even like
leading up to this game like this week, what what
message would you give to this team as they prep
for this, uh this Riler game? Some of them played
in it, some of them haven't played in it. Obviously
Bear hasn't played in this game yet. What's the words
of advice from the wise and judicious BELLI.
Speaker 4: If you lose, you're all done to me? Uh No,
I I to be honest with you, I I would
just say just keep playing. You're you know the same,
the same football man like the great thing about this
team just they know their identity, they know who they are.
You know, everyone, just keep playing the way that you've
been playing. Don't don't try and do anything different, you know,
as fans. As fans, we you know, I'd love to
see you get hyped. I love just treated differently. But
you know, as a coach, you don't want your players
thinking too much about what the game means and what
the game means to the fans and feeling any type
of way or any type of pressure. Right. You just
want them going in and treating them like any other game.
So yeah, to me, I just say, just just keep
keep plugging away and uh, you know, don't treat this
anything like any different the other games that you've been
playing in, Right. I think when you tried to try
to do too much, that's when proms start to happen.
Speaker 3: Last thing for you, ac before we let you go.
Actually a couple last things here. I think the statute
of limitations is up. I get you know, as I
debate with fans and conversion fans, they bring up rivalry games,
they'll talk about specific so you know BA fans they are,
they are very much They get into the the you know,
granular minutia of what happening games and what happened in
robberie games in two thousand and eight.
Speaker 2: What they bring up to me is like.
Speaker 3: Robert and I went away from the run game and
was throwing the.
Speaker 2: Ball too much. Is that true? Is that false?
Speaker 3: Give me your perspective on this, because I have to
field these questions all the time about the two thousand
and eight game. They say, Hey, Robert and I, it's
on his shoulders. We started throwing the ball. We were
getting eight yards of pop with Harvey Unga. We went
away from the run and that's why we lost. Give
me your thoughts.
Speaker 4: You can never fill about too much. We probably didn't
throw enough, Ben, That's what I would say as a receiver.
Did we throw Did we throw every play? No? Okay,
we didn't throw enough.
Speaker 2: You're a pretty good running the ball, though.
Speaker 3: You could have taken somebody in this a run off
and you could take some jets, some reverses.
Speaker 2: Maybe we underutilize your idea.
Speaker 4: That No, that that game, that that game I did.
I had a couple of fly sweeps, dude, I had
a little uh, a little uh wildcat pulling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. We did it with you.
Speaker 4: Huh yeah, all right, a few of those, so we
ran the ball plenty there.
Speaker 3: It is a C has has spoken. I don't need
to I'm just gonna pull your quotes from now on.
AC said, we actually didn't throw the ball enough in
that game.
Speaker 2: Love it. Uh, I always appreciate what's that I said?
Speaker 4: We didn't we didn't throw the ball?
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Speaker 3: Love it, man, Wide receivers, quarterbacks, running backs, defensive backs.
Speaker 2: What position are your boys playing?
Speaker 4: Yes? Right, my my son is a freshman's a wide
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He actually just took up quarterback. His yeah, his is
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Speaker 5: So my son kind of stepped in and and uh
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six weeks too, But he does things that I mean
that I'm like, but who you know, where'd you get
that from? Right? Like, he's got the bones, man, So
I'm excited. It'll be fun. My two best my two
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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, gentlemen, we'll talk to you. Thanks Ben.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 3: That's former b YU Great, the best wide receiver in
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