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Speaker 3: Like we promised last week, we are back in another
Speaker 3: episode of Sledging Room before the second Test in Birmingham.
Speaker 1: Sorrow welcome back.
Speaker 3: Sort of missed the last episode because he was hoping
Speaker 3: for an Indian win and it didn't happen. We had
Speaker 3: to take a break. Today we don't have Alan sorrow King.
Speaker 3: My big question for the second Test. Sorry, let's dive
Speaker 3: straight into the topic. Is is it time to hit
Speaker 3: the panic button? Or should we just give a little
Speaker 3: bit of levy to everyone that is concerned, from the
Speaker 3: players to the coaches. Should we think about dropping someone? Yes,
Speaker 3: there is news about jessplit Boomra likely that he might
Speaker 3: not play this test match.
Speaker 1: Is it not the right time to hit the panic button?
Speaker 1: Is it? Are we overreacting after the first test defeat? No?
Speaker 4: If you ask me, this is that particular time where
Speaker 4: you realize that your voling attack was not good enough
Speaker 4: even with just being a part of it, like you
Speaker 4: could not pick up twenty wickets. That is how you
Speaker 4: even test messagariety pick up twenty wickets. And for picking
Speaker 4: twenty wickets you have to pick the right ballers for
Speaker 4: the right conditions. Did we pick the right ballers for
Speaker 4: the first Test? Jesspl Boomra only one oller apart from them?
Speaker 4: Who do you think a procelle? Oh my god, you know.
Speaker 4: I saw a meme on social media which said that
Speaker 4: Proceed's economy this is equal to bomaz econ means twenties.
Speaker 4: So if your bowler is leaguing runs at over six
Speaker 4: months for over in a Test match where in a
Speaker 4: bass bowling, it's not a good news for you. And
Speaker 4: as much as I liked for what he did in
Speaker 4: the IPL, this first Test match is currently an indication
Speaker 4: of is not the bowler who you will field in
Speaker 4: a Test match in England. He's a head direct bowler
Speaker 4: who will succeed maybe in Australia, maybe in South Africa,
Speaker 4: but maybe India also, but Nyland. I doubt it, especially
Speaker 4: when you have ballers like a cash deep. Your ball
Speaker 4: is like as deep sitting in your distincroom. So it's
Speaker 4: not a planning button. But yes, even in plays we're
Speaker 4: not playing, you have to change the bowling attack because
Speaker 4: again the same thing happened in the first Test.
Speaker 3: So the coach came out after their first Test. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he spoke in the press conference leads and he said,
Speaker 3: we are not going to think.
Speaker 1: Like how the outside eight things.
Speaker 3: This bowling attack, this bowling group, he said, it's not
Speaker 3: was not chosen for just this store. We want to
Speaker 3: build a pace battery that will serve Indian cricket for
Speaker 3: a long time. I'm just asking you preussid plays one game.
Speaker 3: He concedes that whatever six in fact did well in
Speaker 3: the second innings, decently well in the second innings. And
Speaker 3: then now you say, pruss it go take carry water
Speaker 3: for the rest of it would have done well in
Speaker 3: the second innings.
Speaker 1: You would have won the match. And then he picked
Speaker 1: up two wickets. He did.
Speaker 3: But I'm saying relatively Okay, if if I turn up
Speaker 3: badly for work one day and the next day I
Speaker 3: do do one extra video or one extra copy, then
Speaker 3: that is relatively better.
Speaker 1: Right, That's how we judge. Yeah, But that's what I'm
Speaker 1: asking you. Jump is from zero two? Why not from yeah?
Speaker 3: But I'm asking both of you. So you will pull
Speaker 3: push pressy out of the team. What will that do
Speaker 3: to his confidence? Or shouldn't you think about all that now?
Speaker 3: Or should they think about getting the combination right? And
Speaker 3: according to you, what is the right combination?
Speaker 5: What doing by?
Speaker 4: What what will we do to its confidence? Was he
Speaker 4: not thinking? It was his confidence while bowling that ship lineup?
Speaker 4: What was his bowling? He was getting smacked left and right.
Speaker 4: He picked up two wickets. Good for him, great for him,
Speaker 4: picked upwo wickets?
Speaker 5: So will you play Sharadoo al Test matches?
Speaker 1: Big?
Speaker 5: Because he picked two wickets in the second things? I
Speaker 5: don't think.
Speaker 4: So you are there to win a Test series? Fine, yes,
Speaker 4: you are fielding a young team, but that does not
Speaker 4: mean that you have given up the series. You will
Speaker 4: want to win the series.
Speaker 1: Right? Who are some of India's best places after twenty ten?
Speaker 5: After yeah, the many paces were very good workhorse.
Speaker 4: So it was because of the lives of Ishant and
Speaker 4: Shami and Omish that was not over was bowling on
Speaker 4: crucial junctures bring up wickets and getting.
Speaker 3: Away barring ishans that Australia to take any of these
Speaker 3: three paces first few England tours or australiators and see
Speaker 3: what they have done. And we are talking about pressed
Speaker 3: bowling shit and all that being being too critical is
Speaker 3: what I think. But your your question was about your
Speaker 3: question wasn't about when we analyzed like this, like saying
Speaker 3: that okay, he did not bowl well, he should be.
Speaker 1: Now now sideline him? Is that not panic button?
Speaker 4: So you tell me one simple thing, that is what
Speaker 4: I'm asking you. Why do you think was let go
Speaker 4: off as captain? And why why did he have to retire?
Speaker 1: M hm? Lack of runs?
Speaker 5: Lack of runs?
Speaker 3: Fine, team not winning one series he did not score
Speaker 3: team not before that. He was your best battle in
Speaker 3: the entire double cycle, last two double cycles.
Speaker 5: But you had to let him go.
Speaker 4: Fine, let go off ashwin for all that matter. One
Speaker 4: bad series right that news series where he was and
Speaker 4: then not paid in the first second, a little bit
Speaker 4: of reality check overseas, reality check rush, realty check.
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not saying that, but if if you
Speaker 3: have a plan, will you follow that or will you
Speaker 3: following the plan? I have never seen, but he is
Speaker 3: a bad baller. What I am saying is is a
Speaker 3: hind bowler.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 5: And in England you need bowlers who can use the seamens.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 4: And you have got Borlos in your line up there.
Speaker 4: You got why is he not playing? He was liked
Speaker 4: like a prison right he bows exactly how how.
Speaker 3: I would look that it is. It's not Pruss. It's
Speaker 3: fault that he was picked for this.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And he himself in that press conference a couple of
Speaker 3: days ago in Birmingham he spoke about how I should improve.
Speaker 3: I cannot use these accuses that he was finding the
Speaker 3: slope a little bit difficult. And he conceded that I
Speaker 3: bowled very short. And then whenever he bowled full or
Speaker 3: whenever he bowled you know, good bounces, he got rewards,
Speaker 3: but he was askedtray. But again we have done this
Speaker 3: mistake again and again when you pointed out that Gambir
Speaker 3: had picked a cash deep for a bouncy pitch in
Speaker 3: Australia and Rana for a pace seeming pitch pitch, and
Speaker 3: then again we do the mistake. Great Chapel, in his
Speaker 3: column for Yes, has written that India have picked similar
Speaker 3: bullets for the first test. If you look at it
Speaker 3: and press boom. Yes he can bowld those fuller lengths.
Speaker 3: Siraj Is again hit the deck and a little good length,
Speaker 3: good length, but again they are seam boners.
Speaker 4: But again, whatever you pointed out that I had said earlier,
Speaker 4: who is the guy who's making mistakes?
Speaker 5: So earlier it was the captain and coach.
Speaker 3: That is what I actually wanted to point at.
Speaker 4: I am I am not questioning that, but I'm questioning
Speaker 4: that management that you are making the wrong decisions and
Speaker 4: then the field, the player will fail because it does
Speaker 4: not shooting the conditions.
Speaker 5: And then you will show him out.
Speaker 3: But have we not hit the panic button since the
Speaker 3: New Zealand loss at home? Exact New Zealand loss, The
Speaker 3: excuse was twelve years or one time was at the
Speaker 3: ticket definitely, But then we went to Australia and we
Speaker 3: were absolutely hammered there.
Speaker 1: Things changed.
Speaker 3: We definitely hit the panic button, but the panic button
Speaker 3: was hitting odd places luggage com b with chuck O
Speaker 3: Hotels and Nicol though what there are several other things.
Speaker 3: The whole dicta at the ten pointed that that came
Speaker 3: after that. So we did hit the panic button, but
Speaker 3: there are jobs that survived we throughout our batting coach.
Speaker 1: We threw out our strength and conditioning coach.
Speaker 3: We don't have a strength and conditioning coach at the
Speaker 3: moment with the Indian team. But there is one person,
Speaker 3: Gotham Vambir, who has survived through these last two serieses
Speaker 3: and probably will survive also through England. The question is
Speaker 3: how how longer can you give him with the series
Speaker 3: of mistakes that he has committed over the course of
Speaker 3: the last ten test matches.
Speaker 1: I think four more tests?
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, I believe four more tests and after that
Speaker 4: maybe it's time for him to go because as a
Speaker 4: coach of Indian national men's cricket team, you can't lose
Speaker 4: three back to our Test series first at home and
Speaker 4: do two away in Australia and England.
Speaker 5: You just can't afford that. Right, So again I'm saying you.
Speaker 1: Pakistan won't be distollerant. I think yeah.
Speaker 5: And it's as simple as it is.
Speaker 4: Not just about it's also about how you if you're
Speaker 4: selecting a player, so you know, actually you said key,
Speaker 4: will you if you drop him? Wanted affect your confidence?
Speaker 4: I am asking this Steam management. You played Shadle, did
Speaker 4: you use him?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 3: How do you use My question also is yeah, your
Speaker 3: front line option in Australia.
Speaker 1: Yeah, way, why did you not start him?
Speaker 3: These was your front line rounder in Australia had an
Speaker 3: exception that we could understand me No, I know, I
Speaker 3: cannot understand if you play as a specialist batter that
Speaker 3: that could have been done not as a fast Why
Speaker 3: I cannot.
Speaker 1: Like, you're twenty hours in that game.
Speaker 4: But before this series started, tenders, before the series started,
Speaker 4: I was the one who set will not play s.
Speaker 4: Then I see a press contain from the Indian bowling
Speaker 4: coach Montey Michael who says that I see a bowler
Speaker 4: in who can give me crucial breakthroughs and he can
Speaker 4: be more than a regular bowler. And he was working
Speaker 4: on it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so she was working on it. You backed him?
Speaker 4: Where was he He was not in the playing eleven
Speaker 4: So what was that working on it? Or what was
Speaker 4: the print confress conference? That is my problem with this
Speaker 4: coaching set up.
Speaker 3: Where is the Yeah like when when Rubbish as three
Speaker 3: was the coach he backed and he gave a debut
Speaker 3: in South Africa twenty eighteen and then you see what
Speaker 3: Bora became that pace battery.
Speaker 5: It was not just battery. It was rubbish.
Speaker 1: Three.
Speaker 4: All these coaches were involved equally in the dision making
Speaker 4: and the paid See this coaching.
Speaker 3: Setup is like the weather department. Today, rainfall will happen.
Speaker 3: It will not happen one hundred percent, it will not happen.
Speaker 3: But my question is what happened? What has happened to
Speaker 3: the India Space Reserve? Like is it to see? We
Speaker 3: might say that, okay, that era where the quarter of
Speaker 3: Shami Bumra uh Ishant and they dominated at home and
Speaker 3: away conditions, But what has happened after that? Two different
Speaker 3: coaching regiments I'm not just talking about. Yeah, absolutely a
Speaker 3: little bit of Raul Dravid as well have suddenly disappeared
Speaker 3: from the scene. Shan Sharma, of course, you know, had
Speaker 3: injury concerns and he couldn't break back into the team.
Speaker 3: Shami unfortunately is going through an extended injury period and
Speaker 3: suddenly after playing Champions Sophie, we say that his workload
Speaker 3: is not good enough for tests.
Speaker 1: But is the lone standing bowler?
Speaker 3: This this injury issues Also this this also falls on
Speaker 3: the coaching setup and the medical staff. Now Mayankya the
Speaker 3: both six balls he gets injured. Unshul combos you carried
Speaker 3: to England any balls sensually well and you sent him
Speaker 3: back home. You added Harshithrana as an injury cover for
Speaker 3: some odd reason and then obviously sent him back as well.
Speaker 3: After backlash came Mukesh Kumar, who has been in your
Speaker 3: test setup, has towed he was not selected.
Speaker 1: And who else am I thinking? Khali Lama, Kali Lamath some.
Speaker 3: Somebody in the last podcast comments mentioned that you guys
Speaker 3: are ignoring as a left arm option. That is true,
Speaker 3: did well, Yeah, he did well in England. He's not
Speaker 3: playing county playing that. It is true that that he
Speaker 3: was not considered. So all of these questions remain and everywhere,
Speaker 3: and there are other players also on the sidelines.
Speaker 1: There is this said. There is a spacer called us
Speaker 1: John nagas left. He's a left arm. He was a
Speaker 1: great left option.
Speaker 5: He broke on the scene I think, yeah, three or
Speaker 5: four years ago.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think and he was actually boler to
Speaker 3: England last time he rode England. But yes, there are
Speaker 3: again a left arm option. What is happening there?
Speaker 4: So when actually you asked that question, what will you
Speaker 4: do to the conference? So if is coming out and
Speaker 4: posting on Instagram. Sorry, he's definitely dnting his confidence that
Speaker 4: he was part of the set up, but he does
Speaker 4: not get to play, or he was not in part
Speaker 4: of the squad that is playing a Test series.
Speaker 1: Again and again.
Speaker 3: We are hitting home this point. I think this coaching staff,
Speaker 3: led by mister Gothunmbier, says the right things, but I
Speaker 3: don't know whether they execute it on the field. As
Speaker 3: in like when you say that, okay, I want to
Speaker 3: build a pace battery that will dominate for a long time,
Speaker 3: say the next decade.
Speaker 1: You need to back the right right people.
Speaker 3: I think as like when you send a message that
Speaker 3: you're flying Harshie Runner into the squad and he was
Speaker 3: suddenly released before the Test.
Speaker 1: I head of someone like Mukishkumar and have done well.
Speaker 3: It's not like Hashid played two full domestic seasons to
Speaker 3: earn his maiden Test call up in Australia. That was
Speaker 3: also a left field choice. So why not Combosa as
Speaker 3: a left field choice. Why not someone who has done
Speaker 3: well in domestic cricket as a left field choice. It's
Speaker 3: not a more sensible choice. Also it will be a
Speaker 3: more sensible choice, right, And a lot of the blame
Speaker 3: falls on BCCA as well. I remember last year they
Speaker 3: exclusively mentioned fast bowling contracts for several bass It was
Speaker 3: taken away this year.
Speaker 5: Why was it, you said the first place? If we
Speaker 5: had to take it was just so odd. It was
Speaker 5: such a great move.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought it was a great move because fastballers
Speaker 3: need a lot of care.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, was there A couple more.
Speaker 3: Mayank was there. I think Mran was there. I think
Speaker 3: one Bengal pacer I think were there. And there was
Speaker 3: a set of young youngsters were and coming were also there.
Speaker 4: But we actually come out in the press conference and
Speaker 4: say that we want to build a pays battery for
Speaker 4: the future. How are you building that pacee battery? You
Speaker 4: know by backing them across five tests England? Yeah, or
Speaker 4: maybe rotating them? Well, yes, because Boomera has broken down
Speaker 4: because of the team management's foolishy he was made to
Speaker 4: play a five masterest series in India.
Speaker 3: One messages not playing three plus two three plus two Banglades.
Speaker 3: I still can't understand why why low disrespect to that
Speaker 3: Bangladesh team, But why will you play Bumra for the
Speaker 3: two Banglades tests?
Speaker 1: Just because it was first assigment as coach is that.
Speaker 5: So yeah, and.
Speaker 3: Then you thought you will win a couple of tests
Speaker 3: agains and interest him, but you didn't go according to
Speaker 3: the script. And then in India you have to play
Speaker 3: the IPL. There's no other way around it. Can we
Speaker 3: do something around that? For should he be allowed to
Speaker 3: skip IPL?
Speaker 4: No, I don't have a problem with him playing IPL
Speaker 4: four hours per match, fourteen matches you have to play
Speaker 4: in a test match in a day, you're bowling twenty
Speaker 4: overs fifteen hours, So it's a complete different setup. What
Speaker 4: we should actually do is you should actually give Boom
Speaker 4: that rest when he is playing. And you can give
Speaker 4: him that rest when you pick up the right bullers
Speaker 4: for the right conditions, like if a car was there,
Speaker 4: maybe I don't know if it might have happened or not.
Speaker 4: Maybe he might have burdened the shoulder the burden and
Speaker 4: Mura would have bowled less. Over in England tour, I thought, yeah, England,
Speaker 4: I thought you must have learned this coaching management must
Speaker 4: have learned something from the Australia tour. Yes, you lost
Speaker 4: a series. You could not is the final? Okay, it's over,
Speaker 4: it's passed. Mura broke down? Why because you overuse him?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 5: What now you play him?
Speaker 4: Sensibly before the Test series when the team was announced,
Speaker 4: a worker comes out and he says all about workload management,
Speaker 4: and all, okay, tell me one simple thing. Even if
Speaker 4: boom plays only three Test matches and you're bowling him
Speaker 4: like this was in a game, how how is it viable?
Speaker 4: How are you using so because the same thing is happening,
Speaker 4: I heard, ay, and even we say it, given India
Speaker 4: is playing bowling, what we do is okay, let's do
Speaker 4: one thing. Give the ball to Boomera and let's hope
Speaker 4: he picks the wickets and if it does not pick
Speaker 4: the ticket, they we are doomed.
Speaker 5: Why because you're not preparing a plays back line up?
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 3: An't There is so much discussion about whether it should
Speaker 3: be called. But social media is a completely different name
Speaker 3: for these two series. So that's how it has panned out.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I also didn't understand why you would, very well well
Speaker 3: ahead of the series, you would come out and say
Speaker 3: the boom Is want to play only three tests as
Speaker 3: in so many people. A Wis in his YouTube show
Speaker 3: just couldn't understand it hasn't like, yes, I understand. He
Speaker 3: compared that with Dale Stain's workload management. He said that
Speaker 3: we managed dale Stain's workload very well by not playing
Speaker 3: him in the small Bilattle series and all that. Of
Speaker 3: course Bumra has not also been playing those small battle series.
Speaker 3: But when you're the Dale Stain had a Philander, a
Speaker 3: Markel and who everybody else company in a test match? Yes,
Speaker 3: whenever he used to overexit himself, it was up to him, right,
Speaker 3: It was up to him to say that, Okay, I
Speaker 3: want to bowl, I want to crack open these spells.
Speaker 3: It not like was using Bumra like one. You know,
Speaker 3: it looked like I have Chango watched I was watching.
Speaker 1: It was a wicked needed I yes.
Speaker 3: As in this Mumra situation is making him as in it.
Speaker 3: It looks like some people are asking, oh why will
Speaker 3: Booma only play three tests? Boomra also has to think
Speaker 3: about how long I should play for India. It is
Speaker 3: making him like again he was supposed to have be
Speaker 3: the captain the captains.
Speaker 1: He has slipped out.
Speaker 3: This all this management management issues is affect player as
Speaker 3: well as a team. I don't know what is the
Speaker 3: solution for this in England. Will the immediate solution tell
Speaker 3: me that if he's not going to play the second Test.
Speaker 3: What will it be I will simply do one thing?
Speaker 3: Or should he play the second Test or not?
Speaker 4: No, No, I think that that is a decision with
Speaker 4: the team will make. But I don't think you should
Speaker 4: play this Why because historically this has been a batting
Speaker 4: favored track. Fine, And my simple concern is if you
Speaker 4: have made mul forty five verse and then in the
Speaker 4: span of five days you want him to play a
Speaker 4: nextcess match, it's not going to help you because again
Speaker 4: you're going to make him bold.
Speaker 3: For number two between like a ten day gap between
Speaker 3: the second and third Test. No number two, three, number
Speaker 3: two and three follow each other quickly, isn't it.
Speaker 1: No, I think there's a big cap. Oh no, No,
Speaker 1: number two and three follow.
Speaker 5: The number three.
Speaker 4: Er big number three, number four I was seven or eight.
Speaker 4: So you can play him the third Test and then
Speaker 4: you can play him maybe the four Test.
Speaker 1: By then you'll be three nil or four. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: I don't agree to that at all because the second
Speaker 3: Test Birmingham is essentially when you can potentially make a
Speaker 3: comeback tight up one one in twenty twenty picked up
Speaker 3: seven and who won India won that much. Johnny Johnny
Speaker 3: Best poked colleague. Oh my god, I went on the
Speaker 3: score of fourth inning hundred.
Speaker 4: Historically, you never want a Test match and never never
Speaker 4: never like that is what one Test match.
Speaker 5: And that also came before we all were born nineteeny six.
Speaker 3: Hen, but that is what you guys said abouta if
Speaker 3: you head into this mindset, no, I never want to.
Speaker 4: But then we had a coach called who was the captain?
Speaker 4: Who is the captain right now, Sumani, I will not
Speaker 4: put too many too much pressure on that young guy
Speaker 4: who reading is just a second s male and.
Speaker 3: You will see if it takes only we get taking options.
Speaker 3: Say if it is a batting friendly, if it is
Speaker 3: going to be a batting friendly series, don't be afraid
Speaker 3: and like pull out a big tail, put your five
Speaker 3: batsmen in, tell them, give them the responsibility at least
Speaker 3: they have. That is what they have to realize. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that they should realize that they don't have the rat
Speaker 3: and do it now.
Speaker 1: So two we can score. Yes, walk gets out of
Speaker 1: the team. You are scoring.
Speaker 4: Runs, right, So earlier it was always about the top
Speaker 4: about not scoring runs.
Speaker 1: So that's why we're beefing of the batting. Now it's inexperience.
Speaker 3: When will you trust your batters to do their job
Speaker 3: and believe bowlers of that extra burden? I will one
Speaker 3: of course, that collapse that we keep talking about. There
Speaker 3: are two different things that collapse that we keep talking about.
Speaker 3: The bowlers not showing enough, you know, fight in the middle.
Speaker 3: That is completely another thing. But if you want to
Speaker 3: before going into a match, if you think that your
Speaker 3: bowlers will give you a hundred extra runs, that's not
Speaker 3: something that going to work. If if you score three
Speaker 3: fifty and if that is that doesn't become four fifty,
Speaker 3: then you can question them.
Speaker 1: But to think that the bowlers should bat.
Speaker 4: Chase my my biggest concern. See obviously nobody has given
Speaker 4: me a solution.
Speaker 1: Yeah, go for it.
Speaker 3: We can't give solutions because the man who has now,
Speaker 3: what is the plan for Birmingham.
Speaker 5: The plan for Birmingham is simple.
Speaker 3: If you're not playing Boomerah, then you should play us
Speaker 3: deep and both of them.
Speaker 1: And you should one guy guy to come in.
Speaker 3: Sorry one was out and then comes in place Murrah
Speaker 3: and then you have to bench.
Speaker 4: You can't be playing both of them. The lastest match,
Speaker 4: it was not like you did not have bowlers. Those
Speaker 4: ballers did not do their job. You're playing with four paces,
Speaker 4: one spinner a part of none of them looked effective.
Speaker 4: Shadow pick two wickets that those were like two lucky
Speaker 4: wickets he got fine and then great bowling in the
Speaker 4: last session, three or four good overs.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going to.
Speaker 1: By that time the match had already slipped away.
Speaker 4: That is what I'm telling you, And this is why
Speaker 4: you need bowlers who can actually And one more thing,
Speaker 4: this is very simple for me. I don't know about you, guys.
Speaker 4: I am not expecting this side to win this match.
Speaker 4: But at least if I am, I am Sumann Gill,
Speaker 4: and I know because I need to find out solutions
Speaker 4: around Boomra. Even if you play Boomera business match and
Speaker 4: if he breaks down, if he does not pay the
Speaker 4: next tea matches, it's not going to help you anyhow.
Speaker 4: And again you have to play actually tournaments, so Boomera's
Speaker 4: fitness has to be managed very very importantly.
Speaker 1: There is an a cup that needs to be playing
Speaker 1: to be fit for that.
Speaker 5: Then you have next year you play, don't up after
Speaker 5: that you have fifty.
Speaker 1: To play the home season.
Speaker 4: Also, Yeah, so you need to understand if I am
Speaker 4: Gill if I'm the captain, I need to set and
Speaker 4: a plan where I say, okay, Bumi can come in.
Speaker 4: But before that, I have to check ch acout a
Speaker 4: plan where I have other bowlers who can do the
Speaker 4: job for me.
Speaker 5: And that is where I have to have that conversation
Speaker 5: with my coach planner. But yejo bowler's applic can these
Speaker 5: guys do the job?
Speaker 3: And sometimes it's also good to be without your you know,
Speaker 3: leader and just go and do it. Like the Gaba Test,
Speaker 3: nobody gave us a chance that that bowling unit. Siraj
Speaker 3: was your most experienced bowler. Shadol probably was there. And
Speaker 3: Tinut Rajan, Yeah, Tinut Trajan was a net bowler in
Speaker 3: that series. He was used, he was brought into the side.
Speaker 3: Who else Washington from there?
Speaker 1: Did we have a fifth bowler at all?
Speaker 5: I don't.
Speaker 3: He got injured in the second innings. So with that
Speaker 3: bowling unit, and that was also a relatively flat pitch
Speaker 3: in Gaba, A isn't like not as Benian as these
Speaker 3: England wigins. But again we still chased India chase three
Speaker 3: hundred and sixty three and twenty odd in.
Speaker 1: The final innings. I still got the job done.
Speaker 3: Right, So that's when you Gambier himself I said that
Speaker 3: in the press conference he pointed out that okay, in
Speaker 3: Champions Sophie, we did it without Boomra.
Speaker 1: If Bumra is not available, we don't.
Speaker 3: We won't change our plan, is what he said after
Speaker 3: the first Test defeat, that his the team's plan will
Speaker 3: be Boomra will play only three Tests, but he expects
Speaker 3: someone else to step up put their hand up. If
Speaker 3: that happens, it's good for us. Then why did you
Speaker 3: bring and explain that as well? I keep thinking that
Speaker 3: the kind of wickets that we are going to play in,
Speaker 3: what would what would Jeffrey Boycott would have said about
Speaker 3: these wickets? And he has any past with Gummy that
Speaker 3: his course runs in flat wickets in India and doesn't
Speaker 3: do anything in England? What would he say here? So
Speaker 3: in that respect, should the plan be like, okay, we
Speaker 3: are playing in India. What are we going to do
Speaker 3: if we were going to play in India? Should we
Speaker 3: play two spinners instead? Should we chuck out that bowling
Speaker 3: all around the role entirely because India doesn't play with
Speaker 3: bowling all around us. In India it's five plus six
Speaker 3: or six plus five whatever that that.
Speaker 1: Is three all rounders. Yeah, everyone. So I was thinking
Speaker 1: that should should cool Deep come in? Okay?
Speaker 3: And should we just carry the same bowling lineup minus
Speaker 3: Shule okay? So yeah, and then you let your batters
Speaker 3: do whatever they can and then that gives you an
Speaker 3: additional option of picking better wickets with cool Deep and
Speaker 3: ja In. One of the things that I thought with
Speaker 3: the first Test match was that whenever fast overs were needed,
Speaker 3: so ten overs before lunch, it's ja. Can we have
Speaker 3: cool Deep and Jadaja in a different phase of the
Speaker 3: plan instead to make it fast moving to you know,
Speaker 3: set tighter fields in you know, one thing with the
Speaker 3: way Jeja was handled in the way j were bold
Speaker 3: in the first things, is that they never look to
Speaker 3: pick wickets with him, like you said, whenever they had
Speaker 3: to get head into a sessions close, whenever they had to,
Speaker 3: you know, give someone a breather.
Speaker 1: Of course, with you can't.
Speaker 3: Even give give not not much of a diss and
Speaker 3: over and forty five seconds. But the way I don't
Speaker 3: know whether it was him or whether the way he
Speaker 3: was used, he did not look like he was going
Speaker 3: to attack.
Speaker 1: He was trying to survive. Bendickeett.
Speaker 3: Benduckett smashed him in that second innings and after that
Speaker 3: he never looked like he was someone who's going to
Speaker 3: target the stumps and get wicked. Outside of India when
Speaker 3: it was the last time that you ever saw Jadeja
Speaker 3: in that role or for that matter, with the ability
Speaker 3: to also you know like bowl and one series in
Speaker 3: England bus So that's four years back after that. How
Speaker 3: many series did you play and does that Australia, Oh yeah, Australia.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we went to Socialiator.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what he did, but in that twenty
Speaker 3: twenty one series he was used as a really attacking bowler.
Speaker 3: He picked up that Hasibahman's wicket from around the wicket,
Speaker 3: used to come over the wicket get moinally caught a
Speaker 3: short leg. We didn't have a plan, a bowling plan
Speaker 3: at all. That was something that kind of irked me,
Speaker 3: Like you said, but you know sor you're right. I
Speaker 3: just wanted to poke you at that point, asking whether
Speaker 3: pressIt Krishner should go out or not. Maybe if you
Speaker 3: have a better bowler who can naturally hit that length,
Speaker 3: that fuller, good length, we go for him. Maybe give
Speaker 3: us Deep a go now. But if you give us
Speaker 3: Deep a go now, you persist with him for a
Speaker 3: couple a couple of tests. If you give the go now,
Speaker 3: you might you must have to persist with him for
Speaker 3: a couple of tests. And Siajumra for Siaj is your
Speaker 3: leader than if Boma doesn't play for me, it's Siraj
Speaker 3: is my leader of Boma doesn't play.
Speaker 1: And then as Deep.
Speaker 4: And then you know Deep Deep Si a leader in
Speaker 4: this much does not play agreed percent. Now I haven't
Speaker 4: more concern And that concern is the workload of Siraj y.
Speaker 4: You know the amount of over Siraj has not got wickets,
Speaker 4: but the amount of overs that he bowls for India's
Speaker 4: more than Yeah, exactly, he's done. So you need to
Speaker 4: manage because someday he will also fall.
Speaker 1: But we manage him by not taking him for champions.
Speaker 5: That that is a different thing.
Speaker 3: But also Siraj is a different boer than so he
Speaker 3: has a like his body can take bigger workloads.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that he's not hundred person agreed, but
Speaker 4: see you need to manage. That is what my simple
Speaker 4: point is. You need to have a pool of five
Speaker 4: fixed fast bowlers who can pick you wickets and you
Speaker 4: don't need to play one fast bollow in every match
Speaker 4: of every series. You understanding what I'm saying. Like earlier,
Speaker 4: even if Umra played almost every Test match since his debut,
Speaker 4: he knew that there was a horse in Shan Sharma
Speaker 4: who will take the workload. He'll bold those long spells
Speaker 4: and he'll get you wickets also, so it's not just
Speaker 4: about bowling long spills. Because Siraj is bowling long spills,
Speaker 4: but he's not getting the wickets. I don't know what
Speaker 4: has happened to him, but he just he was quite
Speaker 4: unlucky in the second.
Speaker 3: He beat a lot of outside edges and a lot
Speaker 3: of insiders and did not get the wickets. I am
Speaker 3: decently hopeful that Siaj will do much better in the second.
Speaker 4: And that is what I am saying because I remember,
Speaker 4: this is a very very offful example that I'm giving you.
Speaker 4: So I was watching you guys must have seen that
Speaker 4: you don't do a fine But in Pakistan England, don't
Speaker 4: you do? Nashimsha bowl ex exceptionally, will but it get wickets.
Speaker 4: So when asked how do you feel about Nushimsa, He's
Speaker 4: such a great bowler. He's like, wait a minute. He's
Speaker 4: a good bowler. He can trouble the batsman, but he he's
Speaker 4: not getting the wickets. He's not a great bat bowler.
Speaker 4: You're not lucky, I understand, but you have to make
Speaker 4: yourself lucky.
Speaker 3: No, for for long we have been saying that Shami
Speaker 3: is very unlucky. Shami was very unlucky in but in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, what he did was he just moved
Speaker 3: that ball a little fuller. There were so they were
Speaker 3: statistics from that tour, like how Shami bowled a little
Speaker 3: fuller and got the rewards for it.
Speaker 5: That is what he was saying.
Speaker 4: What nahimsa If, I don't know what the coaching management
Speaker 4: does because it's not just a jaw of the bowler.
Speaker 5: It's him and the.
Speaker 4: Bowling coach and the captain's job to look, Okay, you're
Speaker 4: doing this, but you're not getting wickets.
Speaker 5: What more should we do?
Speaker 1: I remember exactly what he said.
Speaker 3: He said that the problem with Nasimsha is that his
Speaker 3: outswingers start moving from outside of.
Speaker 1: The off stars. So why didn't you go to the
Speaker 1: first rate?
Speaker 3: Yeah, while it looks great on TV, it's useless again
Speaker 3: against any better. It's a great point actually because like
Speaker 3: you said, that proceed in the first things he concedes
Speaker 3: that I have bold shot and I wasn't used to
Speaker 3: these conditions. It's the coaching staff's job to make them
Speaker 3: get used to the conditions. And like we discussed in
Speaker 3: the last episode, also there was nothing hands on. There
Speaker 3: was no messages being sent from the dressing room. That
Speaker 3: doesn't happen. I think under camber No. I thought Kambir
Speaker 3: was not doing it because probably and we were there
Speaker 3: to take care of stuff. But now with that young team,
Speaker 3: probably he should be more hands on. That is what
Speaker 3: he should be, more like Ashisna City on the boundary rope.
Speaker 4: You know, in this room only when was appointed the
Speaker 4: bowling coach, I was the one who told you again
Speaker 4: actually I was not very happy with Parson Marbor as
Speaker 4: a bowling coach.
Speaker 5: We suffered overseas. I hope when comes he brings back
Speaker 5: that sting with him. It has just not happened.
Speaker 3: So you now know, Park not Pakistan's mistake. It was
Speaker 3: more namorals mistake that people didn't you know there, So
Speaker 3: that is what I'm telling you. So as a bowling
Speaker 3: coach and for a bowling coach.
Speaker 4: Who is relatively young and who has played on these
Speaker 4: pitches across the world, who knows how what it takes,
Speaker 4: what it takes to manage your body and pick wickets.
Speaker 4: If he cannot help these bowling lineup, if he cannot
Speaker 4: help se, just improve his tweaky's length a little bit
Speaker 4: so they can get more wickets. I don't know who
Speaker 4: will and if you should be asked of the whole
Speaker 4: coaching department. Okay, so you're you and mis Ci for
Speaker 4: all that matter. You know we're not touch upon the
Speaker 4: feeling matter. I thought we must Guy must have touched
Speaker 4: it in the last episode. I was not there, so
Speaker 4: t Lip was sacked? Who was brought back? Feeling is
Speaker 4: not improved. You're giving fielding medals in all other serieses
Speaker 4: and pointed out India is not going to give any
Speaker 4: feeling medals in this dismatch. So many drop catches? Okay,
Speaker 4: King should dad a copy where lest Cook explained why
Speaker 4: so many catches are dropped. I agree, I understand, but
Speaker 4: still at a professionally, you are supposed to take those
Speaker 4: catches because catches when new matches, you know your ballers.
Speaker 4: We create opportunities boomer created so many opportunities. Yeah, you
Speaker 4: could have taken that five. We get hold in the
Speaker 4: first seas and day one only, but you could not
Speaker 4: hold onto those catches. So the feeling needs to be reworked.
Speaker 4: The bowling needs to be reworked, the batting order needs
Speaker 4: to be reworked.
Speaker 5: I don't know why he was robbed.
Speaker 4: So the entire team management, the coach, the bat I
Speaker 4: don't know who is the batting coach is there? Okay? Okay,
Speaker 4: he came in before the championshup. If you won the
Speaker 4: champions stop here. The bowling coach is Monty Michal. Then
Speaker 4: we have a feeling. All these people there are we improving.
Speaker 4: I will not question any player. I will question these
Speaker 4: these people because these are young team are not putting
Speaker 4: an effort.
Speaker 5: Okay, were enough that, Okay.
Speaker 4: I will not expect the coach to go and telling okay,
Speaker 4: you're not doing this right, you're not doing that right
Speaker 4: now you have let go of Ashwin had done Maybe
Speaker 4: very soon you might see the back of that is Also,
Speaker 4: you never know you have got a completely young side.
Speaker 5: You wanted a young captain. You have that. Where is
Speaker 5: the improvement? Where's the fight? To improve. England scored one
Speaker 5: eighty for without a loss of any wicket.
Speaker 1: And you know this is a very important point. It's
Speaker 1: a great point.
Speaker 3: It's a gumby saying that it's not about the series
Speaker 3: and it's about building a big pace battery for the future.
Speaker 3: It has the same vibe as Roichma that Barisal exactly.
Speaker 1: It's just excuse me.
Speaker 3: See, one thing is that we spoke about fight right
Speaker 3: twenty eighteen in South Africa in the Boomra's debut series.
Speaker 3: We lost to one, but if anybody can remember that series,
Speaker 3: it was fiercely fought like twenty one England. Yes, we
Speaker 3: drew to too, but those two tests in England and
Speaker 3: we give them a run for them. We would have
Speaker 3: won if the Yes series would have continued, because if
Speaker 3: the COVID hadn't coming, if they hadn't run by for
Speaker 3: i PL Yeah no. But but my question is take
Speaker 3: Bumra out of this squad and see whether there was
Speaker 3: fight in Australia. Yeah, see whether there will be fight
Speaker 3: in England. Probably there will be still early days in
Speaker 3: England or but what Australia taught us was if Bumra
Speaker 3: was not there, your bust Bumro or bust is what
Speaker 3: it was there that that's a concerning sign, that is,
Speaker 3: But I don't think there is a quick like God,
Speaker 3: you can ridical CONVENI statement how muchever you want. But
Speaker 3: Shami Umish and Dishant didn't become Shami Umish and Isshant
Speaker 3: of their prime in the first two three years of
Speaker 3: their careers.
Speaker 1: Right, So, but maybe we are expecting, maybe we need.
Speaker 3: To understand, maybe we need to realize that we might
Speaker 3: go through another Doni like transition period where we might
Speaker 3: be blanked in Australia and England. Unfortunately, Bumra is there
Speaker 3: to not let that happen. But we might have to
Speaker 3: understand that maybe transition is bowling is a lot more
Speaker 3: difficult than transition batting. But transition bowling, if that's the
Speaker 3: case for India, it's also the case for England. It's
Speaker 3: not like you have gone in Australia against a well
Speaker 3: set Australian bowling attack who have been doing this for
Speaker 3: a decade. In English bowling attack is as inexperienced as us,
Speaker 3: but they still have playing in their own conditions stungue
Speaker 3: and cars.
Speaker 1: You didn't expect them to do that?
Speaker 4: Well, Okay, one question. Do you you said what did
Speaker 4: you say? You say that Shamimi Shan did not become
Speaker 4: all night?
Speaker 5: Fine? What are they given? Long runs?
Speaker 4: Tell me what was your bowl line up in the
Speaker 4: last Test match in Australia. Do you remember the first
Speaker 4: line up?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 4: Our cash Okay, Bore not injured in midwea harsh.
Speaker 1: No, he didn't play? Okay, Harsh played or not? I
Speaker 1: don't remember.
Speaker 4: Fine, Okay, Now compare this bowling attack to the bowling
Speaker 4: attack do you have with the first Test in England?
Speaker 5: Because this is your first overseas Test. After that Test?
Speaker 3: I see, I was there in that Test as well Sydney.
Speaker 3: He picked up wickets in that Test.
Speaker 5: Fine.
Speaker 4: Now, my simple concern which I have always raised as
Speaker 4: a coach, it my biggest problem with Mpies. I'm againstaying
Speaker 4: that he has been a great coach for limited overs,
Speaker 4: but protest, he just I don't know if he does
Speaker 4: not understand it or if it is a problem in
Speaker 4: the communication that he does not pick the right team
Speaker 4: for the right pictures when you're playing in England, Okay,
Speaker 4: your backline up is great. It scored runs, good flat tracks,
Speaker 4: but you will scored runs create to you five hundreds.
Speaker 4: You lower order field again, a problem. You need to
Speaker 4: sort it out. Feeling a problem, you need to sort
Speaker 4: it out. But you're bowling like you said, what after Boomera?
Speaker 4: I don't want Boomra to play thissiness match because I
Speaker 4: don't want to sacrifice for one Test match.
Speaker 3: I am simply telling this you because matches you're ready
Speaker 3: to sacrifice him.
Speaker 5: No, might not play all IPL matches. Did you play
Speaker 5: all IPL matches?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: I didn't, not twelve or eleven?
Speaker 3: He played for ten matches. Of course, do not skip
Speaker 3: the IP and get ready for England. He did not
Speaker 3: play a couple of matches. And if you talk about skip,
Speaker 3: I appeal if you want to if you want him
Speaker 3: to skip, I pal isn't say the owner of I
Speaker 3: p HM. So we'll be saying, not take the call.
Speaker 3: Who is taking the calls for you? And I know
Speaker 3: that the franchise owners are taking the call.
Speaker 5: Obviously they take the calls.
Speaker 4: They've paid him the highest amount of money that they
Speaker 4: have said out on any player.
Speaker 3: They will want him to play as many matches as
Speaker 3: they want him to play. Also would want them to
Speaker 3: play because you want the revenue.
Speaker 4: You want the revenue if you're inviting the best player
Speaker 4: from the world, you want your best player to play,
Speaker 4: and Boomri is your best player across the formats. He's
Speaker 4: your true game changer. So now instead of blaming the
Speaker 4: I p L, which is giving you so many talents,
Speaker 4: you should blame the management of this current coaches, coach,
Speaker 4: the b C I selectors.
Speaker 5: I have a lot of problem with this selecting, this management.
Speaker 4: Every time you see if in batting, you see great
Speaker 4: that this guy's runs scored runs. If this guy had
Speaker 4: not scored runs, you would have seen questions popping out,
Speaker 4: like way for us he scored one hundred and why.
Speaker 5: Was he not part of the squad? Why was he
Speaker 5: let to go off? So my problem is with this
Speaker 5: team in the entire team set.
Speaker 3: Up consistency in terms of I think you came to
Speaker 3: say that point only played a couple of matches, but
Speaker 3: he didn't start here. Yeah, I understand that this is
Speaker 3: the problem. I tried explain now, but my question last
Speaker 3: episode issue. My question is there a quick fix for this,
Speaker 3: as in, like, can the bowling group come together? I
Speaker 3: don't see as like you can be you might look
Speaker 3: like we're being overly critical, but do you expect India
Speaker 3: to take twenty wickets without Boombra on the store in
Speaker 3: any of these pictures except for lot maybe where you
Speaker 3: might find some spice in a in a ground like
Speaker 3: edge bastin where you said India haven't won and last
Speaker 3: time England chased down their highest total three seventy eight runs,
Speaker 3: do you see India picking twenty wickets without Boa.
Speaker 4: Then the other thing is then your batters have to
Speaker 4: outscore England batters.
Speaker 3: Now that's that's also asking too much of the batting group,
Speaker 3: a young batting group which has scored that young batting group.
Speaker 1: Who are in the batting group.
Speaker 3: Young batting group should be through now, Sumann Gill, Sumann
Speaker 3: Gill is young?
Speaker 1: When he three? When when did you make when did
Speaker 1: he make his deble? For? How long he has played?
Speaker 1: Size sestion? Horrible? Well, yeah, as well.
Speaker 4: Is your best battle? He's not young anymore? Twenty two
Speaker 4: is the best right now? Coroni, given chance. I don't
Speaker 4: know why he's batting at number six. He should be
Speaker 4: betting a number number three.
Speaker 3: Okay, quick fix for a quick fix for this. There's
Speaker 3: no eleven my play. I told you there will be
Speaker 3: no Boomera. There will be no the batting or stays
Speaker 3: batting orders including size at three.
Speaker 5: I heard not fit for this dismatch. He got injured
Speaker 5: while feeling.
Speaker 1: I think he has started feeling again from whatever. One
Speaker 1: of those bathroom sleeps. I guess. I think there wasn't
Speaker 1: there was a slight injured.
Speaker 4: If you ask me, there's one batting e solutions simple
Speaker 4: removes silent three and INITIATI batting at number six for
Speaker 4: you at number seven, and then this same Bold lineup
Speaker 4: with no Boomera and you bring deep, you bring us
Speaker 4: deep and bring as.
Speaker 1: Oh that's a mega change. Yeah, entirely police. He said
Speaker 1: that there is a quick fix and he changed everything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is what Indian management is.
Speaker 5: No, no, they do not do this. They backed their
Speaker 5: favorite players.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they say something and do something.
Speaker 4: What I'm saying is, if you believe that you can
Speaker 4: win this Test match, I'm sorry you're living in a
Speaker 4: full s paradise. But test match, let's talk about this
Speaker 4: match series. You have got three more matches to look
Speaker 4: for it. My simple problem is, like actually said, can
Speaker 4: we pick twenty wicates with about boomra Of course try
Speaker 4: it out.
Speaker 1: What other option do you have apart from picking twenty.
Speaker 5: So you are not picking twenty.
Speaker 4: Wiccates you could not pick twentyficates Booma in the side,
Speaker 4: so you should try the other option and the paning
Speaker 4: butter though, as if you said every series we play,
Speaker 4: if it is a panning button, what.
Speaker 1: About you show.
Speaker 3: SAT six bowling groups, stay same bowling attack, bar bring in?
Speaker 5: What about you?
Speaker 3: I would give you a consistency to that bowling attack.
Speaker 3: For that, I would have done the same. I see
Speaker 3: I like I told you, I wouldn't have pressed there.
Speaker 3: I need a bowler bowl fuller. Let pruss it take
Speaker 3: his time, work on his lens and come back maybe
Speaker 3: military in the Test series when they need him. I'd
Speaker 3: get as deep as in place of pressing, and could
Speaker 3: deep in place of sharoo and the rest.
Speaker 1: I don't touch the place place, of course.
Speaker 3: See my thing is we cannot You cannot say that
Speaker 3: will play only in favorable conditions. You need your best
Speaker 3: bowler to crack open a match for you if you
Speaker 3: if you have to ball forty was in three tests,
Speaker 3: bowl forty was in three tests, then don't say that
Speaker 3: I'm going to play only three tests. Don't have to
Speaker 3: ce James Anderson picks up five weekes holes in he
Speaker 3: doesn't say, Okay, I'm.
Speaker 5: Not how many five figures doesn't pick up in India?
Speaker 3: Has he not bowled well in the later official I'm
Speaker 3: just saying I'm not coming for stats here.
Speaker 5: I'm saying I'm not.
Speaker 3: If it's your best bowler, you you can't hide from
Speaker 3: a tough pitch.
Speaker 4: But he has to leave from the front. Rod and
Speaker 4: Anderson hit their whole life. They did not play in
Speaker 4: Test series. You're being the wrong xamble listen. I think
Speaker 4: has consistently played in indios. He played one Test much
Speaker 4: and did not play two dismuches. That's what I'm telling you.
Speaker 3: That was some walklet management nonsense under Joe Root and Silver. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but I am saying if he is your best bowler,
Speaker 3: he can't hide from tough challenges.
Speaker 5: He never hiding, but he was the one who rose
Speaker 5: up in Australia.
Speaker 3: Of course. But if he if if you have to,
Speaker 3: you're one nill down already. And if you offer, if
Speaker 3: you if you go two nil down, I don't see
Speaker 3: any way back.
Speaker 5: And I agree with you.
Speaker 4: But if I may say, even if you were in
Speaker 4: some chance of putting up a fighting distress match, was because.
Speaker 3: So many nobody is trying anything, so I will. You
Speaker 3: can't blame Boomera. No, I'm saying, don't make it. Don't
Speaker 3: hide him from the challenge. You know, he has to
Speaker 3: say if he was about to be your captain, then
Speaker 3: he has to say, I'm playing this Gill, I'm playing
Speaker 3: this match.
Speaker 5: He's not your captain. He said it earlier.
Speaker 3: If he if he commands that much authority, if he
Speaker 3: can say that I'm going to play only three test matches,
Speaker 3: if hard can say that, If hard Pan comes and
Speaker 3: says tomorrow that I'm going to play only three test matches,
Speaker 3: will be thrown out. The fact that he is I
Speaker 3: don't He's not said that I don't want to play
Speaker 3: test Matches's why you know, we see what is happening
Speaker 3: with the idea is also that you don't commit the
Speaker 3: same mistakes with Boomera and make him miss multiple I
Speaker 3: just I just wish that a YouTube comes true, just
Speaker 3: that India playing pulling, planning to play a surprise play
Speaker 3: Boomera and all five tests get him to play crack
Speaker 3: open see India to go to one up from here
Speaker 3: fourth test boom has played all three, you go to
Speaker 3: one up from here. And also one more thing I
Speaker 3: want to say, I just don't want to say that.
Speaker 3: I just don't want to discout the wikid taking the
Speaker 3: ability of the others. Like we all have pointed out,
Speaker 3: cool Deep comes in and we have never seen what
Speaker 3: Deep has done to a bass balling team in England.
Speaker 3: Has has lost the test? I don't think no New Zealand, Yes,
Speaker 3: New Zealand at home?
Speaker 5: Did you play?
Speaker 1: Which did pay? I think it was Bangalore Bango Bango?
Speaker 1: He played Banglo.
Speaker 3: After that injury, So what happened? What I'm saying this,
Speaker 3: Let's not disc even I Bomra is not playing. If
Speaker 3: they decided boom is not going to play, Let's back
Speaker 3: the young bowling groups in like Deep has never and
Speaker 3: likely hasn't had the chance to bowl against this basketball
Speaker 3: in England team as they call in white ball cricket
Speaker 3: though yes, royally taking care of them. But can he
Speaker 3: do the same in England? Can he do the same?
Speaker 3: You need to use them as attacking I think Leeds
Speaker 3: may how you Sauna, how this inconsistent boundary? Whatever you say?
Speaker 3: Dockett couldn't. Duckett didn't want to defend men's Stokes didn't
Speaker 3: want to defend Tarket never those that team doesn't defend
Speaker 3: any Stokes didn't want to defend it only respected Boomera
Speaker 3: and Siraj's second in spell opening spell. I think inclusion
Speaker 3: and maybe if, like you said, if Boomra is not there,
Speaker 3: the others might might be forced to step up. They
Speaker 3: will think that, Okay, if we don't have that cushion
Speaker 3: with us, we need to ehat the lens, we need
Speaker 3: to take up more responsibility.
Speaker 1: Something like that might happen, like how it happened in
Speaker 1: the Champions Trophy.
Speaker 5: Again, I'm telling you, I have always seen this Indian team.
Speaker 1: When they in England make very many when whenever.
Speaker 3: England we're not playing in just one venue, which we
Speaker 3: can't compare it to Champions story.
Speaker 4: Oh what I was saying is okay, this Indian team.
Speaker 4: Whenever I have seen this team in a position where
Speaker 4: you feel it it's down and out and they are
Speaker 4: not the favorites, they come out better, the attack better,
Speaker 4: they play.
Speaker 3: Better throughout December, chap in November, we expected this.
Speaker 5: No, but you're not completely out of the question. You
Speaker 5: had the likes of.
Speaker 3: King Row in the lastest even in the last Test.
Speaker 3: You had an opportunity to draw the series in the
Speaker 3: bottle of ascot. But you know what, I just think
Speaker 3: that this England we should be, you know, overhyping the
Speaker 3: England side. Like England side they're batting, maybe yes, but
Speaker 3: they're bowling is still a little untested.
Speaker 1: And what backend with jo Archer coming back. I just
Speaker 1: see England batting. Okay, can Joff bowl twenty hours a day?
Speaker 3: Nobody knows he did not really bowl in the championship.
Speaker 1: Like the burst was very good and then he faded away.
Speaker 1: I feel it very well in that four hours exactly
Speaker 1: four hours and then he bold in one county county game,
Speaker 1: one county games in the last but three four years,
Speaker 1: four years.
Speaker 4: But maybe they can use they can afford to use
Speaker 4: ter like that burst got Joe stungue who can clean
Speaker 4: the tail?
Speaker 5: They've got kiss.
Speaker 3: Folks and then Bold in the last fast bowler now
Speaker 3: pn Stokes and so is bowling the best.
Speaker 1: Ben Stalks bowling so well is a problem.
Speaker 5: That's a big problem with England.
Speaker 1: First innings bowling attack was quite bad bar.
Speaker 3: How Ben Stokes bowling that is, and Cars and Tongue
Speaker 3: certainly woke up from slumber bold really well, we have to.
Speaker 4: Turn did what is known for? He cleaned up the
Speaker 4: tail in both the innings. Yeah, so that is what
Speaker 4: is known for.
Speaker 3: I don't think English England's bowling attack is that great.
Speaker 3: I don't think English's batting attack is that great. Also
Speaker 3: see Olipopo is already hit a century. He is not
Speaker 3: going to do anything in this series. Yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: every series. He will start well and then when Juru
Speaker 3: is coming back and Duckett is a big problem, as
Speaker 3: in like I when did duck it become a problem?
Speaker 3: Has always been a problem. He scored one hundred in India.
Speaker 3: Also good, good, better, that's good.
Speaker 4: No one fight I remember which is the one?
Speaker 1: Yes, he is a good better Aesson like you have
Speaker 1: to give credit where it's due.
Speaker 3: Playing that you know that Boom The way he played
Speaker 3: Boom in the second was also very good asn't like
Speaker 3: I think you wrote a copy on the very unduck
Speaker 3: it like people. People can go and read and like
Speaker 3: his But if you're talking about your copies, we need
Speaker 3: a prediction from you for the rest of the series
Speaker 3: quickly before you go. So the playing Leven stays the
Speaker 3: same right as in the playing Lemon is what we have.
Speaker 3: He has made sweeping changes I have made for we
Speaker 3: are the same eleven no, no, yes, I have in
Speaker 3: plays of Argo, I have.
Speaker 1: Version yes, different, different, just.
Speaker 3: For the sake of consistency. Like the things that we
Speaker 3: pointed out, you can't have. You can't give a youngster
Speaker 3: one match and throw him out. I wouldn't do that
Speaker 3: with Pressida as well, but then you need to make
Speaker 3: those changes to get wickets. Twenty wickets is more important
Speaker 3: and so I hopefully gets to step up. Siraj has
Speaker 3: to step up well, but bolling well and picking up
Speaker 3: wickets are two different things. Maybe when he's given the
Speaker 3: leader tag, probably like how he did in Brisbane Shargoo
Speaker 3: and him battling for a five week at all in
Speaker 3: that first and Charlett took that catch, I think five
Speaker 3: all yeah, yeah. Prediction and what will happen in Birmingham.
Speaker 3: Prediction for the rest of the series and what will happened.
Speaker 3: I still think it's two on England and I think
Speaker 3: Birmingham is a draw.
Speaker 1: I think for me.
Speaker 3: England Test said, I don't think if India would have
Speaker 3: played well the first it didn't.
Speaker 1: Happen, right, it didn't happen. That's true, Sorry of you.
Speaker 4: I don't see India winning one dismatch. I'm very very
Speaker 4: afraid to be very favorite.
Speaker 1: Zero five.
Speaker 5: No, but not zero five. I will leave it to
Speaker 5: even one contest today.
Speaker 1: Where where is it coming?
Speaker 5: Manchester next in Birmingham?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's your prediction?
Speaker 3: No, Boom and Birmingham. India beat England by six wickets,
Speaker 3: and then you wake up from your dream. Yeah, dream
Speaker 3: is over. Then we get match Hall, then we get
Speaker 3: in both match Hall and Deep doing well. I just hope,
Speaker 3: I desperately want to do well. I just want to
Speaker 3: see how England basketball against Deep, not the the old,
Speaker 3: not the care cool Deep, who broke down after an
Speaker 3: assault from women.
Speaker 5: The DCP got Hammard this year with.
Speaker 3: Brendan Mca, so there is some revenge angle there also, Yes,
Speaker 3: so that that could be. You can write your copy
Speaker 3: from somewhere. Yeah, but but on a good note sorrow.
Speaker 3: You have given up hopes India or not.
Speaker 4: It's not about giving of hopes. I'm again telling you
Speaker 4: I'm not hopeless against this team. I'm hopeless against this management.
Speaker 4: And then decisions.
Speaker 5: I have.
Speaker 4: I don't hate them here, but I can I'm confused
Speaker 4: as to what he wants and what he sees, because
Speaker 4: all time he comes up and says, I am a
Speaker 4: proud Indian. I do this for the country. Everybody is
Speaker 4: playing for the country. Every cricket is playing for the country.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like like they say it, like it's some novelty.
Speaker 3: Like there are like ten people left in India who
Speaker 3: are very proud of being Indian and they're doing it for.
Speaker 1: For for their country.
Speaker 4: Our coach should realize he's no more MP of political party.
Speaker 4: He's not contesting an election. He's a coach of Indian
Speaker 4: national men's cricket team. And the moment he seems started
Speaker 4: producing results, his patriotism will be proved. So that is
Speaker 4: the most important job for you. You and you're coaching
Speaker 4: group group, the bowling coach, the fielding coach, the batting coach.
Speaker 4: Do your job back these players and when, like you said,
Speaker 4: when these team does not have senior players, you should
Speaker 4: be making those calls from reducing room.
Speaker 5: You should be helping them. You should have given more tips.
Speaker 3: Gamiro only talks in this press conferences when he has
Speaker 3: to shut down a reporter, he chops against them and.
Speaker 5: What was it press conference? Sorry?
Speaker 4: I'm just debating a bit. Was it against like ature
Speaker 4: wrote the copy?
Speaker 3: It wasn't could you could have interpreted in many ways
Speaker 3: you could have, but whatever it was, that question telling
Speaker 3: someone you could have asked a better question was not
Speaker 3: right at all when you have not allowed.
Speaker 1: That person to ask the question. Yeah, exactly, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: listen to it. Okay, okay, you is your question over?
Speaker 3: Then you say this, okay, I agree, you have an
Speaker 3: opinion to express.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Done.
Speaker 3: But I think that it was a rep sports journalist.
Speaker 3: He couldn't even finish one line of his question.
Speaker 5: He was not allowed to.
Speaker 3: And you say that, oh, this question should have been
Speaker 3: framed better. I would have asked a better question something
Speaker 3: like that. You should have asked it the better way.
Speaker 3: Your commentary not like you're succeeding.
Speaker 1: Put somebody else.
Speaker 4: In the biggest problem when if you compare complete the commendator,
Speaker 4: it looks like if you give complete the commendator one chance,
Speaker 4: you will go and slap them with goes ten times
Speaker 4: every day, every day you'll go slapping What are you saying?
Speaker 5: What is this? What is that? That is what it
Speaker 5: looks like.
Speaker 1: I am.
Speaker 3: I am still waiting for India supports another problem is
Speaker 3: that's the other problem is you're playing for the country
Speaker 3: or you're not even playing for the country. This is
Speaker 3: not even a registered you know sport. There's a private
Speaker 3: entity for which you're playing for. I don't know where
Speaker 3: this all this comes from. Be professional, that's what you
Speaker 3: expected to you feel, you feel patriotic. You don't, you know,
Speaker 3: play to feel patriotic. You will do that's a feeling that.
Speaker 5: You get with patriotic.
Speaker 4: You can see that patriotism when he lifted that company,
Speaker 4: saluted the way that is what you have to do.
Speaker 3: It never came out and do a patriotic or ask
Speaker 3: people to be a patriotic whatever.
Speaker 4: That is what we loved about the gumber Red and
Speaker 4: coaching tenure when he Yeah, they realized what they had
Speaker 4: to make the changes on. They made the changes and
Speaker 4: they delivered, kind of delivered.
Speaker 3: And probably when these two guys we're at and were there,
Speaker 3: they kind of embodied what New India was, you know
Speaker 3: at that point when we were still India. Yeah, like
Speaker 3: when you still thought that, Okay, this thing has done,
Speaker 3: but we will conquer new avenues as well. That was good,
Speaker 3: but on optimistic notes, sorrow before we head into the
Speaker 3: second Test in Birmingham starting Wednesday. The verdict from here is.
Speaker 1: Done. I am the only person who was backed to
Speaker 1: an Indian win. Yeah, win. It's a draw, draw Birmingham.
Speaker 1: Both of you have picked Birmingham.
Speaker 3: Crossing we will draw. This will win one more. Yeah,
Speaker 3: both of you have picked Birmingham. Rosst England. So I
Speaker 3: want some rain, for people to relax, go out in
Speaker 3: the go out to their like cafes, enjoy some rain, sounds,
Speaker 3: have some coffee. Why why stress so much? It's a
Speaker 3: long series, many more matches to be played. Relax a
Speaker 3: little bit in England. Take things slow, slow living.
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Speaker 1: all this mohold that can be has been creating and
Speaker 1: the team management, like he pointed out, whether they should
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