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Speaker 1: Good morning, welcome to the show. Is this Shanna?

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Speaker 2: It is? Good morning? How are you?

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Speaker 1: Good morning? Okay, tell me if I'm saying your name correctly,

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we're alive on the air. Is it Shana Trahan trey Han?

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How do you say your name?

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Speaker 2: Sure? Is Shanna trey Han?

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Speaker 1: Shanna trey Han. Okay, cool, got it? Thank you, Thank

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you for joining us this morning. Very interested in talking

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to you. Can you before we talk about your book,

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can you tell us about your background and at about

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the therapy center and everything, anything and everything we should

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know about you before we before we really get into it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I appreciate you very much, for sure. So

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I was born and raised in Louisiana, right in your

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New Orleans. And then also, gosh, so my life pretty

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much is. I was an educator for twenty years. I

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was in military leadership, hearing of two beautiful kids, one

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beautiful granddaughter, and I love to travel. Insofar is middle

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heal health is concerned. I kind of thought about it,

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I guess when I was younger, because people used to

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always come to me and ask me what do I think?

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And so, yeah, so that's a little bit of background.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So and tell us about the Tray and Therapy Center,

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What is that exactly? What do you do there?

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. So the Trade Hand Therapy Center

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is where we shape minds and change lives. And that's

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the slogan I came up with because I just thought

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about the processes that I thought taking place in the

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transformations of people's lives who followed through consistently and more

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intentional about the therapeutic process. So that's what we do

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and been in private practice for almost eight years and

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right now we're licensed in like nine eight states, and

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so we started out of Texas though, and so yeah,

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so that's we really love to support people who are

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challenged having mental health challenges. If it's with marriage, if

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it's emotional, just you know, anything that they're dealing with.

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I try to streamline it. So I would say, if

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I wanted to tell you mainly what we do, sure

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it's going to be relationship, marriage, certainly, anxiety, depression, and

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had a lot of clients who present it with like

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bipolar disorder, okay, but certainly the age range pretty much

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is like twelve and up.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay. In your experience, do you feel like the

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has it gotten better over time? In terms of the stigma,

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you know, a lot of people have a problem admitting

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or acknowledging and directly dealing with mental health issues like depression,

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for example. I know this from personal experience. I'm someone

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who struggles with depression, as a lot of our listeners know,

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I've I've been pretty open about it the last few years,

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but I wasn't always open about it, and there was

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a time where I would try to hide it. And

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I know that. I know that there can be a

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lot of stigma and judgment that people have to deal

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with if they if they start to open up about

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these things, whether it be publicly or even to family

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and friends. But I do feel like that's gotten a

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lot better, especially over the past decade. I feel like

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people have become more open and comfortable talking about these things.

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And I'm curious what your experience in terms of that

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has been. Do you think it's do you think it's

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gotten better, or maybe it's gotten worse, or I don't know.

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I mean, what do you think in terms of people

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being open about this stuff.

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Speaker 2: That's an excellent question because there's multiple parts of that.

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So the first part I will share is that I

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do believe that more doors and more windows have been opened,

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and honestly, as people in Hollywood have come out to say, hey,

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you know what, I'm experiencing anxiety, I'm experiencing depression. I

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do have bipolar, you know, and I do movies as well, right,

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So I believe that that has created some shifts. And

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then also though, literally I was talking to someone the

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other day and you know, someone who's someone that I

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know that's not in therapy, and I asked him, I said, oh,

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I said, well, you know, have you ever thought about

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talking to someone? And they said, well, I just think

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of talking to someone as just, you know, saying just

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what I'm feeling. And I said, well, you know, therapy

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is so much more than that, right, And you know,

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don't please, don't come just pour everything on my head

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and walk away. For me, therapy is certainly about change.

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And I'm such a solution focused type person. But because

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of my background, I've taught from babies. I used to

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have a daycare, So from babies all the way to

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college level, I've taught. And I would say that I've

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worked with people who have identified special needs and then

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those who don't have identified special needs. Right, And so

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in working with those who identified special needs. I think

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that that really has helped me to be real specific

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in planning and treatment planning for my clients, because they

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don't just to give them a broad spectrum antibiotic, for example,

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is just not enough, Like they need something that's really

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specific to their background and their experiences. So I practice

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what's called integrative therapy, and that it uses multiple multiple

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theories in one setting as opposed to trying to go

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with one theory. But the person really needs a little

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bit of this one and a little bit of that one.

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the best approach, and it seems to have worked for

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the people that I see. But yeah, just to answer

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your question, yes, I think that it's more people are open. However,

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there's still so many people. If we look at the

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number of people committing suicide, there's still so many more

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people that need to be reached.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so tell us about the book The Anxiety Fix.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Anxiety Fixed. While Yeah, just as

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I was observing, I guess what's been happening. And I

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don't watch the news much, but I guess back last

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year I was watching it a little more and I

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was just listening to even clients and friends and family members,

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and it just dawned on me that people were really

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suffering from anxiety, I mean almost to what could be

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like nearly OCD levels.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And it's unfortunate because you know, there's ways and systems

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and processes, and you know there's so many solutions. Sure,

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and so I came up with anxiety Fix, and I

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believe that all of the components of it are so important.

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which I think that it's important to understand, like where

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is this coming from? Right, what's the source of all this?

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that you eat and then the best foods for you

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know that you should eat if you're having anxiety, and

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like everything, a lot of times we overlook it. I mean,

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food and water are like the foundational you know, it's

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foundational like ourselves, right, So what foods are contributing to

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how we're feeling and how we're feeling is presenting into

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the world. Also, we look at things such as community

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building community. When I talk to a lot of people,

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you know, I find that they don't have you know

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their core group. Souse families kind of spread away, spread

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out and move the different states, and then it's like

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now you have to come up with your own group.

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a thing that you know, people have said use the

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term your people, but it's meaning that group that fits you, right,

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important to reducing anxiety because you feel like, hey, I'm

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not alone. And also looking at holistic supports because it's

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not everyone doesn't necessarily need a medicine from the pharmacy,

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but sometimes people can definitely benefit, so let me say that.

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I think that understanding what those things are is important.

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not need medication. However, if your person suffering with severe

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anxiety or severe depression, or you know, severe case of

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your mental health concern, you may you know, need the medication.

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then we may have to move towards, you know, medication.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like you're suggesting to that, tell me if

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I'm understanding this correctly, that it's probably better to try

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to with with something like anxiety, it's better to try

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to address it, you know, holistically, or you know, you

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mentioned nutrition, the importance of nutrition, and you know most

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people don't exercise enough obviously that you know. I'm a hypnotherapist,

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and I talked to my clients a lot about that

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mind body connection, and I tell them, look, the better

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you feel mentally, the better you'll feel physically, and vice versa.

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these other things before, because I think there's a misconception

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that some people have that you know, you can cure

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anything with a pill, But the reality is there's other

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things that you do want to try first, because you

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might not need medica, and if you can address these

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things with diet and exercise, and you know, you talked

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about community, you know, because a lot of people struggle

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with loneliness and that obviously that does inflate anxiety and

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depression and all these things. So I mean, it sounds

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like you're saying there are ways to address these things,

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and medication might be I don't know if the last

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resort is the right way. Of putting it. But am

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I on the right track with that?

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Speaker 2: You are so so on the right track as we

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watch these lovely commercials that pass on the different stations

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and then at the end somebody says about forty different

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side effects very fast. Yep, yep, I am. Everybody's in

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the business of medicine and or the line of work

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that we're in for different reasons, right, We all have

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our different reasons, and I pretty much I would say

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that my motive, if you will, has always been to

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help and support. And so that's my military background, that's

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my teaching background, that's my even store manager background, that's

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my daycare background. Everything I've always done has been to

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support and train, teach, help, you know, And so that

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for me is this thing as well, because you know,

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doesn't hurt me physically. But it's just the moral part,

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like just knowing that hey, maybe if they had done

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gotten you know, went out and you know, developed a

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new hobby and you know, met some new people that

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that could have been the beginning to something new and

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better for them. You know, Yeah, you don't go just

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medicine certainly has helped many people for a lot of things.

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how you kind of tie trade up or tie trade down.

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how much water are you drinking? Right, and then go

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up to medication if that is required.

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Speaker 1: Sure, sure I do. Yeah, most people don't drink enough water,

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and it is so important, especially you know, in the

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hot summer. But it's but it's always important. And yeah,

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it's interesting too because I know that there's studies that

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show that exercise, for example, for many people, and again

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but for many people, you know, just exercise, even just

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walking every day can be more effective for depression, for

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dealing with depression than say going on a on a medication.

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that you see for for for medications, and I I

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an antidepressant years ago. I remember seeing this commercial late

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but I'm not sure, so I don't want to say it.

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was may cause suicidal ideations. And as someone who struggles

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with depression, I just I remember seeing this commercial and

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it mentions the suicidal ideations, and I thought, well, that's

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that's a bit counterintuitive. You know, if I'm going to

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go on that mad it's because I'm trying not to

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kill myself that this antidepressant might make me want to

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kill myself, you know, so to be very blunted. So yeah,

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so I'm always I'm always skeptical. I've I've never gone

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my own. But but I do know that, uh, you know,

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anxiety of course, and they're they're I agree, they tend

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to be connected. Do you feel that, uh, do you

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feel that people are being well? Let me ask it

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this way. Do you think these problems have become more

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widespread or do you think people are just becoming more

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aware and open about discussing them over time? You know,

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we talked earlier about the stigma, and I think you

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and I agree that that's been getting better. But do

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you think these problems have actually gotten worse or do

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you think people are just more open about them? Or

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maybe it's hard to say.

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little more aware. Yeah, But honestly, the crazy thing is

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that I would say sometimes unfortunately, you know, people are

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unaware of some people are unaware of, you know, our

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own presentation. And I was talking to a friend the

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other day and I mentioned something to them about I guess,

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you know, a behavior you know, I observe, not trying

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to be their therapist, but it's just that we were

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talking about something between us and I said, did you

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realize X, you know had happened? And they were like, oh,

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maybe because of why you know? And I said, no,

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it wasn't Why wasn't present at the time, you know,

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little signs of anger or frustration, and like there was

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nothing in the moment really that anybody else probably would

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have said, Hey, you should be frustrated, you should be

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angry right now, right, And so they hadn't even realized

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that presentation of themselves. Okay, And so sometimes we don't

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even realize our own presentations. So how can we even

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you know, talk to the therapist and say, hey, I've

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been experiencing X, you know, and with everybody ghosting everybody

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in twenty twenty five, I mean, people aren't being on

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you know, aren't really talking to their friends, and they just, oh,

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that person presented angry, I'm just going to leave them

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alone forever, you know, you just sure, you know people,

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you know, how do we have friendships? How how can

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we be honest with each other and not you know,

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concern ourselves with everybody ghosting us or you know whatever. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And it's easy to not only not only

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do we not always recognize our own presentation, but it's

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easy to misread other people. Uh. Text messaging I think

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has played a big role in that in our society,

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in that, you know, I saw somebody make a joke

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the other day. It's almost like you have to end

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every text with a smiley emoji, or the person you're

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sending the text to is automatically going to assume that

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you're angry with them. There's a lot of misunderstandings that

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happened because of that, you know, and I'm guilty of

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it myself. You know, sometimes I misread people or I

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misunderstand or especially if I meet somebody new and they

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perhaps kind of stern, and how they present and then

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I and then I get into my own head about,

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oh they don't like me, there's something about me that

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bothers them. And then I get to know them a

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little bit and it's like, oh, no, that's just how

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they talk. They're a nice person and they do seem

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to like me. They just you know, I misunderstood, I

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misread them, and that happens to me a lot. I've

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gotten better about it over the years, but it still

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happens where it's like, you know, I get a wrong idea,

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a wrong impression about somebody else's presentation. So it's something

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mindful of. And but but it's tricky. But it's tricky.

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worsened over time though too. I mean, obviously, like you said,

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people are more open about about talking about these things,

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but and there's more awareness. But also I think that

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because you mentioned how people eat the foods that we eat,

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you know, we we eat all this processed food, and

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you know, and and as a country, you know, we

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tend to you know, we have higher and higher numbers

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of diabetes and and and obesity and all of this.

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though as those problems continue to worsen, I think that

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obviously affects everybody in terms of how they feel and

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and their emotional well being and all of that. So

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open about these things, but I think the problems are

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probably also getting worse and and that and that's why

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that makes it that much more important for people to

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read things, for example, that are helpful to them, like

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your book The Anxiety Fix and and someone who someone

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who reads your book, what what will they what will

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they get from it? Like do you lay out in

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the book kind of a plan or a strategy for

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people who use to deal with their anxiety, or or

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do you make it just make a lot of suggestions

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about different methods to try to cope or tell us

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a little bit more about the book. What do you

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present to the reader in terms of what can help them?

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Speaker 2: For sure? So I would say number one is that

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I think that two things about the book. One is

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that it should be on it I mean, you can

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read it on your own. However, I really suggest that

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you anyone that considers purchasing Anxiety Fix, that they actually

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use it alongside their therapists, because really there's things there.

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and then they were like, oh, you know, I saw

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the coping skills, and so I just figured I could

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just do them all. No, you cannot do You don't

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do them all. You don't do them all at one time.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: The way that I suggest is certainly choosing one or

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two coping skills, practicing those intentionally over a couple of weeks,

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seeing you know, the you know which one is benefiting

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you most, and if if one of them is benefiting one,

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you don't see the benefit, then you know, then drop

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that second one at another one. Now you're doing that

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one that you know works, and you're trying another one,

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and you know on top of that. So definitely, the

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book presents with a lot of coping skills support and

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I think that that is important that you don't you

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can't you don't employ forty coping skills all at one time.

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I think that that will lead to overwhelm. And so

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the goal one is not so overwhelm, but you definitely

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want to. I would say use this with your therapist

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so that way, you know, the therapist has the book

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Anxiety Fix. You have the book Anxiety Fix, and then

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you get to read the first chapter. You're answering questions

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and you know, figuring out who you are and what's

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happening with you and why it's happening, and then you

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get to bring that back to your therapist then kind

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of talk about you know, the questions that you answer,

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why you answered them that way you know, and your

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behaviors and your choices that might be leading to your anxiety. Right,

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So This is certainly a book that can be read

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on an individual basis, but I certainly suggest that you

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do go through it, you know, on an individual basis.

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But then when you go to your therapist, Hey, I

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read the first chapter of Anxiety Fix this week. Can

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we talk about that? Yeah, because I'm certain that your

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therapist will be very glad to kind of go through

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the process with you step by step because it's going

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to lighten their load as well. Sure, and then you've

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already done some of the work, right so they don't

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even have to assign some homework. Hey, you've got your

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homework right there, an Anxiety Fix. And then the therapist

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is just supporting and facilitating. It's like, hey, this is

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really easy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense. Is this

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your first book, by the way, or have you written

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other books?

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Speaker 2: I've written other books. However, out of all the books,

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I will say that this is the best of all

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the books. Okay, So if anyone buys any books that

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Shanna Treyhan has written, Anxiety Fix is the one. I mean,

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this is like the one for you know, you can

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buy it for your sister or your brother because you

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know that they're struggling and just leave it with them

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and walk away. Hey, try this. You know sometimes people

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don't want to have the conversation. Here you go and

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then just leave them with it. Right, certainly yourself, your kids,

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it could be a family, a family book to read.

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Let's sit in a circle. Let's talk about this stuff. Man,

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this has been affecting everybody. Little Johnny, it's affecting you

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at school. You went to a new school. We just moved.

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We're having some anxiety because now you have to start

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over from scratch making new friends. A husband or wife

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just got a new gig because they just moved. You know,

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everybody's feeling the anxiety. Let's sit down in the family

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as a family. Let's read it, Let's talk about it.

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Let's experience everything together. Hey, we're going to try some

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of these coping feels together. Hey, we're gonna try some

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new eating plans together. Right, So don't just let you

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know your family members sit in a room with the

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blinds closed and the doors closed and not talking. Lets

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everybody come together, sit together around anxiety fixed. We can

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have some popcorn, take turns reading, and then discuss how

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we're feeling and what our experience has been.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds great, and I'm sure that probably everyone

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can get something out of it, even even people who think,

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you know, no, I'm good, I'm good, I've I've got

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I've got this. You know, everything's everything's good. There's probably

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going to be something in there that they can that

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they can glean from it that will help themselves or

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or perhaps to help someone they know, because you know,

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these problems are so widespread and anxiety is such a

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such a thing, such a common thing. Obviously, a little

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bit of anxiety. Tell me, tell me if I'm I

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try to tell people this, but I'm never sure I'm

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explaining it right. Tell me if you think, uh, Shannon,

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if you think I've got this right, a little bit

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of anxiety is a good thing, right, because you have

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to have some level of anxiety and stress in order

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to to push you to do things right, to to

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to to get you to make sure that you take

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care of your responsibilities. You know, if you have bills

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to pay, for example, you know you want to have

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a little bit of anxiety, like, Okay, I've got to

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pay that bill. I got to make sure I do

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this on time. I've got to Uh. If you're a parent,

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you know, I gotta, I gotta make sure I do

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this for my kid. I gotta. You know, so a

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little bit of that's a good thing, right, But but

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but you don't want it to become too much where

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you're you're now you're worrying about things that you can't control,

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and now you're you're you have anxiety about things that

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to a level where it's actually harming you and not

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not helping you because a little bit is helpful. You know,

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we human beings were designed, our brains are designed to

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want to handle some level of challenge, right, Otherwise we'd

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be bored to death if everything was easy. But but

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we don't. But when that anxiety begins to take take

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us over and and ruin our lives effectively, right, you know,

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that's that's when we need to really, that's when we

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need to look at some ways to manage it.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you one thousand percent. You know, definitely

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there's there's what I call good anxiety and bad anxiety, right, yeah,

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and so yeah, the bad anxiety is anxiety that has

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you up at night and you can't fall asleep, or

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you can't or if you fall asleep, then you keep

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waking up. You know that's bad anxiety. You know, good

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anxiety is, Oh, I better be get up and go

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take my job this morning. You know, let me get

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up and get my stuff on. You know, that's that's

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good anxiety. Right. So, certainly the things you mentioned good anxiety.

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So there is, in my opinion, is good and bad anxiety. Right. So, yeah,

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we all do live with some level anxiety, and that's

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certainly how we you know, Oh, let me go out

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and water the plants today. You know, I've got to

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do this. Let me make sure this happens. Let me

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make my list of five things I got to do today, right,

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So those things are good anxiety for sure. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, Well, Shanna, the time goes quickly. We do need

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to we need to start to wrap up. But I'm

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so glad to get to talk to you this morning

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and in the book The Anxiety Fix. I think it's

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great everything that you're doing. Please tell our listeners where's

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the best place to go online, not only to get

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the book, but to learn more about you. Uh, maybe

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we have someone who wants to talk to you, maybe

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they want to schedule something with you. What is the

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what are the best ways for people to reach you?

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Speaker 2: Sure? The name of the book is Anxiety Fix and

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you can find it on Amazon and just look up

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Shanna tray Hann s h a n A t r

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a h a N. And then of course our website

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where you can find more information definitely about holistic supports

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and things like that, and the things that we offer

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is going to be www if they still allow us

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to use it. Right tray Hand t r a h

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a N Therapy t h e r a p Y

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Houston dot com. So that's tray Hand Therapy Houston dot com.

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And again, we are in eight states on the East

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coast and in Idaho, South Carolina, New Mexico, Texas, Louisiana, Delaware,

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Rhode Island, in New Hampshire. So yeah, just reach out

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to us. We're there.

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Speaker 1: Outstanding, outstanding, all right, Shanna trey Han, thank you so much. Well,

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we'll have to do this again in the future. It's

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been wonderful to speak with you this morning. I really

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appreciate you joining us, and it's been great to learn

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about you and learn about the book. And you're doing

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great things out there in the world, so and we

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need that, we need that, So thank you so much

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for joining us today.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you. Thank you for your time, many blessings

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and we will talk soon.

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Speaker 1: All right, sounds good, Thanks Shanna, have a great day.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, bub.

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Speaker 1: All right, Shanna Treyhan. Check out her book, The Anxiety Fix,

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available where well, she mentioned Amazon. Of course that's probably

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I assume Amazon is a number one place where people

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get their books. But yeah, wonderful to speak with her.

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And you know, we focus a lot obviously on the show.

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We do more interviews with musicians than anybody else. But

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it's wonderful to get into some of these other areas,

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especially where I mean partly too. You know, I'm a

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certified hypnotherapist, so I have a natural interest in these

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things anyway, and I help people with things like anxiety

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and stress and whatnot. But it's I think it's great

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to bring bring on other people to talk about these

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things too, and definitely check out. You know, she's had

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an amazing career. We could probably have if we'd had

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more time, we could have delved more into some of

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her experiences. But but yeah, check out her book, Shanna Treyhan,

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The Anxiety Fix