WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:00.800 What is going on. 2 00:00:00.920 --> 00:00:04.480 Let's get a drive time Tuesday afternoon, fourteen minutes past 3 00:00:04.480 --> 00:00:08.439 the hour, two o'clock. Beautiful, beautiful spring light conditions outside 4 00:00:09.000 --> 00:00:13.240 about sixty eight degrees, little cloudy here in downtown Salt 5 00:00:13.320 --> 00:00:16.000 Lake City, Utah. But as it is every single day, 6 00:00:16.000 --> 00:00:17.879 it's going to have you along for the ride. Spence Check, 7 00:00:17.920 --> 00:00:20.440 it's behind the mic. That's Porter Larson beyond the glass 8 00:00:20.480 --> 00:00:25.000 today producing the program on this beautiful, beautiful Tuesday afternoon. 9 00:00:25.079 --> 00:00:29.160 The world of college basketball crowded national champ last night. 10 00:00:29.440 --> 00:00:30.640 We'll get into the game today. 11 00:00:30.719 --> 00:00:35.119 The Houston Cougar's just fumbled the bag, as the kids 12 00:00:35.159 --> 00:00:37.399 would say. And the Florida, the Florida Gators are your 13 00:00:37.439 --> 00:00:41.000 national champ. Sixty five sixty three. He was point scored 14 00:00:41.039 --> 00:00:45.159 in a national championship game since twenty fourteen, and Florida 15 00:00:45.240 --> 00:00:48.240 comes back once again from a twelve point deficit against 16 00:00:48.280 --> 00:00:50.200 one of the best of not the best defensive teams 17 00:00:50.200 --> 00:00:53.000 in all of college basketball. Todd Golden, at the age 18 00:00:53.039 --> 00:00:54.799 of thirty nine, is the youngest coach to win a 19 00:00:54.880 --> 00:00:58.079 national championship since Jim Valvano wanted a thirty seven in 20 00:00:58.200 --> 00:01:03.119 nineteen eighty three. Of of course, big t thorough Bailey, 21 00:01:03.240 --> 00:01:06.359 NC State Wolfpack and unbelievable ride back in the day. 22 00:01:06.439 --> 00:01:09.200 But shout out to Florida out of the SEC. They 23 00:01:09.200 --> 00:01:11.319 get it done over a Houston team. Who if you 24 00:01:11.359 --> 00:01:13.640 were a fan of Big twelve hoops, you watched Houston 25 00:01:13.680 --> 00:01:17.439 snatch the souls of teams all year long, including Utah 26 00:01:17.439 --> 00:01:21.319 and including BYU. So we'll get to the college basketball storylines. 27 00:01:21.519 --> 00:01:24.120 And speaking of BYU and speaking of Utah, we have 28 00:01:24.239 --> 00:01:28.519 news for both of those teams. Players entering the NBA Draft, 29 00:01:28.560 --> 00:01:32.120 players entering the college Basketball Transfer Portal. We'll get that 30 00:01:32.200 --> 00:01:36.920 to you throughout the course of the show. Today. Utah 31 00:01:37.079 --> 00:01:39.879 Jazz are off tonight. They've got only a handful of 32 00:01:39.920 --> 00:01:42.680 games left. They're going to be welcoming to the Portland 33 00:01:42.680 --> 00:01:45.200 Trail Blazers coming up tomorrow. And then it's okay see 34 00:01:45.200 --> 00:01:48.239 coming up on Friday. Final opportunity to get to a 35 00:01:48.319 --> 00:01:52.760 Jazz game before we get to the offseason. NBA basketball 36 00:01:52.799 --> 00:01:55.519 this year is just while the business of pro basketball 37 00:01:55.519 --> 00:02:00.680 this year is just bizarre, as Michael Malone, after ten 38 00:02:00.760 --> 00:02:04.599 years in charge of the Denver Nuggets, has been fired 39 00:02:05.719 --> 00:02:08.280 five days left in the NBA season. As far as 40 00:02:08.319 --> 00:02:12.719 the calendar goes to determine playoff seeding, and Denver's right 41 00:02:12.800 --> 00:02:13.240 in the mix. 42 00:02:13.319 --> 00:02:13.479 Now. 43 00:02:13.520 --> 00:02:16.120 They've lost four straight games, are eleven and thirteen since 44 00:02:16.120 --> 00:02:19.000 the All Star break. But once upon a time in 45 00:02:19.000 --> 00:02:23.000 pro basketball, if you're a generational superstar in your twenties, 46 00:02:23.000 --> 00:02:26.439 you were not traded, and then Dallas trades Lukadancic. If 47 00:02:26.439 --> 00:02:29.000 you're a really good young head coach with a rising team, 48 00:02:29.199 --> 00:02:30.599 chances are your job was safe. 49 00:02:30.599 --> 00:02:32.759 And then Memphis moves on from Taylor Jenkins. 50 00:02:33.639 --> 00:02:35.400 And if you're a head coach that brought a city 51 00:02:35.439 --> 00:02:38.479 a championship that hasn't seen a championship in nearly fifty 52 00:02:38.560 --> 00:02:41.560 years and you're the most successful head coach in the 53 00:02:41.560 --> 00:02:45.120 history of an organization, typically you keep your job. And 54 00:02:45.159 --> 00:02:48.159 Michael Malone is out of a job. Denver right now 55 00:02:48.199 --> 00:02:51.439 is the four seed. They do have a tough schedule 56 00:02:51.479 --> 00:02:54.080 to close out the year. But news that has just 57 00:02:54.520 --> 00:02:57.639 shaken the landscape or pro basketball. Michael Malone out as 58 00:02:57.680 --> 00:03:00.560 the head coach of the Denver Nugget. So we'll get 59 00:03:00.599 --> 00:03:03.199 to the latest and we'll talk a little. Utah Hockey 60 00:03:03.240 --> 00:03:06.039 Club as well as the Seattle Kraken are in town. 61 00:03:06.080 --> 00:03:08.879 Tonight to take on the Utah Hockey Club. Handfull of 62 00:03:08.919 --> 00:03:11.479 games left. The playoffs won't happen around here this year, 63 00:03:11.560 --> 00:03:16.479 but potentially moving forward as the foundation has been set RSL. 64 00:03:16.759 --> 00:03:21.960 As as the current situation stands, we are about two 65 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:26.240 and a half weeks away from the primary transfer window closing. 66 00:03:26.439 --> 00:03:28.919 RSL got a result last weekend over the La Galaxy 67 00:03:28.960 --> 00:03:33.120 with a couple of goals from Diego Luna, So Kurt 68 00:03:33.159 --> 00:03:34.879 Schmid's going to stop by today we'll get all the 69 00:03:34.960 --> 00:03:39.479 latest with the Reale salt Lake stuff prior to this 70 00:03:39.560 --> 00:03:42.680 window closing. Will RSL make an addition They're going to 71 00:03:42.719 --> 00:03:45.520 take on Nashville coming up on Saturday. That's a six 72 00:03:45.560 --> 00:03:48.919 and thirty Mountain time start. Plenty of soccer left, but 73 00:03:49.240 --> 00:03:52.280 talent needed. If Raale sal Lake is going to make 74 00:03:52.319 --> 00:03:56.240 anything of this year. We are, i believe, fifteen days 75 00:03:56.280 --> 00:03:59.960 away fifteen sixteen days away now from the NFL Draft 76 00:04:00.199 --> 00:04:02.400 to some draft stuff. Of course on the program today, 77 00:04:02.400 --> 00:04:05.719 all the latest with the offseason news in the NFL 78 00:04:05.759 --> 00:04:07.599 and of course spring football up on the hill for 79 00:04:07.639 --> 00:04:10.479 the University of Utah down south for BYU as well, 80 00:04:11.000 --> 00:04:13.680 So a lot of storylines the salt Lake Bees open 81 00:04:13.800 --> 00:04:15.360 up their brand new ballpark. 82 00:04:15.479 --> 00:04:17.240 We have Tony Parks and Studio yesterday. 83 00:04:17.240 --> 00:04:20.920 Go to SLBs dot com The homestand starts tonight and 84 00:04:21.120 --> 00:04:24.079 goes over the next handful of days with an excuse. 85 00:04:23.680 --> 00:04:25.160 Me with a number of different giveaways. 86 00:04:25.839 --> 00:04:27.399 So if you're looking for something to do, is the 87 00:04:27.439 --> 00:04:29.279 weathers and I set out and support the Bees and 88 00:04:29.319 --> 00:04:32.120 their new digs out South. So a lot to do 89 00:04:33.560 --> 00:04:35.639 on this Tuesday edition of the program. It's great to 90 00:04:35.639 --> 00:04:37.480 have you with us. We'll start things off today with 91 00:04:37.560 --> 00:04:41.160 Tony Jones from the Athletic Tony stops by. He covers 92 00:04:41.879 --> 00:04:44.000 well right now, he's covering the Denver Nuggets. When the 93 00:04:44.040 --> 00:04:46.639 Jazz are a serious team. He covers the Utah Jazz. 94 00:04:46.680 --> 00:04:48.639 We'll do a little NBA Draft with Tony as well 95 00:04:48.680 --> 00:04:52.199 some NCAA tournament. Get his thoughts on the latest news 96 00:04:52.240 --> 00:04:55.680 surrounding BYU and Utah basketball players leaving for the draft 97 00:04:55.680 --> 00:04:57.360 and players entering the transfer portal. 98 00:04:57.800 --> 00:04:59.959 Good day to have Tim McMahon on the program. Covers 99 00:05:00.040 --> 00:05:00.680 the NBA for. 100 00:05:00.879 --> 00:05:04.360 ESPN, Ken Palm Ken Pomeroy will put a little bow 101 00:05:04.639 --> 00:05:08.319 on the college basketball season. Get Ken's takeaways from Florida 102 00:05:08.839 --> 00:05:11.839 winning their third national championship since the year two thousand. 103 00:05:11.879 --> 00:05:14.160 That's second in all of college basketball only to the 104 00:05:14.240 --> 00:05:18.199 Yukon Huskies. And then the aforementioned Kerk Schmidt stops by 105 00:05:18.439 --> 00:05:24.319 for the latest on the RSL roster construction project and 106 00:05:24.360 --> 00:05:26.600 hopefully we'll get an update from Kurt on maybe players 107 00:05:26.639 --> 00:05:29.199 on the way, So Tony Jones, Tim McMahon, Ken Pomeroy, 108 00:05:29.279 --> 00:05:32.639 Kurt Schmidt, the Spence checkets all of you, the great listeners, 109 00:05:32.639 --> 00:05:37.560 and that young man Porter Larson on a Tuesday afternoon. 110 00:05:37.839 --> 00:05:40.480 NBA is bizarre this year, dude, Like that really bizarre. 111 00:05:40.519 --> 00:05:42.680 The last piece of news I thought that I would 112 00:05:42.720 --> 00:05:46.120 get today is that Michael Malone, after ten very successful 113 00:05:46.199 --> 00:05:49.120 years and the only coach the Nakola Jokicic has ever had, 114 00:05:49.519 --> 00:05:52.519 has been relieved with duties five days before the playoff 115 00:05:52.519 --> 00:05:53.199 seating is set. 116 00:05:53.279 --> 00:05:54.519 It is beyond bizarre. 117 00:05:54.720 --> 00:05:58.800 The timing is is maybe the craziest part, you know. 118 00:05:59.240 --> 00:06:02.519 And we've heard rumblings, we've heard things here and there 119 00:06:02.639 --> 00:06:06.879 about some some drama with you know, behind the scenes 120 00:06:06.879 --> 00:06:10.319 stuff in Denver, but man uh to to part ways 121 00:06:10.360 --> 00:06:12.040 with your head coach, a head coach who won an 122 00:06:12.120 --> 00:06:17.560 NBA championship less than two years ago. Man, that is uh, 123 00:06:17.639 --> 00:06:20.800 that is a drastic move to make with five games 124 00:06:20.839 --> 00:06:23.600 remaining in the season, And I just wonder what we 125 00:06:23.759 --> 00:06:27.279 don't know yet, because that's that's kind of the story 126 00:06:27.319 --> 00:06:30.839 there is that there's clearly tension behind the scenes with 127 00:06:30.879 --> 00:06:33.000 the with the Nuggets. But who is that between is it? 128 00:06:33.040 --> 00:06:35.879 Is it Nicola? Is it? 129 00:06:35.959 --> 00:06:36.120 You know? 130 00:06:36.279 --> 00:06:36.399 It? 131 00:06:36.439 --> 00:06:38.160 Is it front office stuff? Obviously we know that the 132 00:06:38.240 --> 00:06:41.040 GM is going to be parting ways as well, so 133 00:06:41.680 --> 00:06:43.800 a lot going on in Denver. I'm much like the 134 00:06:43.879 --> 00:06:48.560 Luca Dodges situation, eager to hear more because I clearly 135 00:06:49.240 --> 00:06:51.399 can see that there is more u to this story. 136 00:06:52.680 --> 00:06:56.519 There has to be, because the entire thing is catching 137 00:06:56.560 --> 00:06:59.079 everybody off guard. But Tony Jones covers the Nuggets for 138 00:06:59.680 --> 00:07:03.199 the athleteck and timmcmahon is dialed in as well, So 139 00:07:03.279 --> 00:07:05.759 we'll bring them in to get a little knowledge as 140 00:07:05.759 --> 00:07:07.480 far as what's going on, and we'll talk about the 141 00:07:07.519 --> 00:07:10.519 final handful of games in the world of pro basketball. 142 00:07:11.000 --> 00:07:13.199 But before we do all that, on a Tuesday afternoon, 143 00:07:13.319 --> 00:07:16.279 courtesy of our good friends at Prize Picks, it is 144 00:07:16.439 --> 00:07:17.639 Todd now for your opening tip. 145 00:07:18.160 --> 00:07:20.600 Welcome to the Drive with Spence check its on Utah's 146 00:07:20.639 --> 00:07:24.000 number one Sports Talk Now into the studios of ESPN 147 00:07:24.079 --> 00:07:26.639 seven hundred to set the scene for the show. The 148 00:07:26.680 --> 00:07:28.720 opening tip of the drive is brought to you by 149 00:07:28.759 --> 00:07:33.040 Prize Picks. Use the code ESPN seven hundred and run 150 00:07:33.120 --> 00:07:34.879 your game with Prize Picks. 151 00:07:36.199 --> 00:07:40.000 Interesting listening to the reaction from folks kind of break 152 00:07:40.040 --> 00:07:42.759 down March Madness and the NCAA tournament that is now 153 00:07:42.800 --> 00:07:46.079 behind us, I thought it was fun. I'm on record 154 00:07:46.199 --> 00:07:48.399 and I've said this for years. It is potentially my 155 00:07:48.439 --> 00:07:50.959 favorite individual sporting event that we have on the sporting 156 00:07:51.040 --> 00:07:54.600 calendar every year. With the exception of a World Cup 157 00:07:54.639 --> 00:07:56.959 cycle or an Olympic cycle, or if the Jazz are 158 00:07:56.959 --> 00:07:59.959 in the finals or something like that, March Madness consistent 159 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:04.800 brings it consistently is entertaining, consistently brings a ton of attention, 160 00:08:05.079 --> 00:08:08.399 and it is the main reason that basketball remains a 161 00:08:08.439 --> 00:08:11.120 revenue generator. Not on the level of football, which is 162 00:08:11.120 --> 00:08:14.439 on its own level, but basketball brings in money because 163 00:08:14.439 --> 00:08:16.720 of the tournament that now just ended. So the Florida 164 00:08:16.720 --> 00:08:20.480 Gators win the national championship last night, sixty five to 165 00:08:20.519 --> 00:08:24.399 sixty three over the Houston Cougars out of the Big Twelve. Now, 166 00:08:24.439 --> 00:08:27.600 as I referenced in the intro, I watched the Houston 167 00:08:27.680 --> 00:08:31.439 Cougars snatch souls from teams this year, all year long, 168 00:08:31.480 --> 00:08:35.360 including our local teams. Utah went down to Houston earlier 169 00:08:35.559 --> 00:08:39.600 in the season and they lost seventy to thirty six, 170 00:08:40.000 --> 00:08:43.000 and it wasn't even that close. At one point you 171 00:08:43.120 --> 00:08:47.360 tied eight turnovers and three baskets BYU, who was a 172 00:08:47.360 --> 00:08:50.600 really good team this year, a Sweet sixteen team, one 173 00:08:50.600 --> 00:08:53.600 of the top shelf teams in the Big Twelve, didn't 174 00:08:53.600 --> 00:08:55.879 even look like they belonged on the same floor in 175 00:08:55.919 --> 00:08:59.720 their two opportunities to play Houston eighty six fifty five 176 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:02.759 down in Houston, then the Big Twelve tournament seventy four 177 00:09:02.840 --> 00:09:08.519 to fifty four. Like Houston all year long, just suffocated 178 00:09:08.559 --> 00:09:12.559 teams defensively. They had a veteran roster, Guys that have 179 00:09:12.639 --> 00:09:15.080 been transfers on a number of different occasions, Guys that 180 00:09:15.120 --> 00:09:17.840 have been together on a number of different occasions. Guys 181 00:09:17.879 --> 00:09:21.200 that have played in final four games in Big NCAA 182 00:09:21.279 --> 00:09:22.080 tournament games. 183 00:09:23.200 --> 00:09:23.399 LJ. 184 00:09:23.600 --> 00:09:27.399 Cryer leaves as a senior, as a prolific scorer. Juan 185 00:09:27.519 --> 00:09:31.600 Roberts leaves as a senior with an incredible career behind him, 186 00:09:32.000 --> 00:09:33.559 and they're going to lose a lot, but they have 187 00:09:33.799 --> 00:09:36.720 one of, if not the best transfer classes coming into 188 00:09:36.720 --> 00:09:37.960 college basketball next year. 189 00:09:38.000 --> 00:09:38.639 We'll get to that. 190 00:09:39.080 --> 00:09:41.720 There's already preseason top twenty fives out and I saw 191 00:09:41.759 --> 00:09:43.279 one today where Houston's at the top. 192 00:09:43.799 --> 00:09:45.440 So Kelvin Samson's not done here. 193 00:09:45.440 --> 00:09:47.399 At the age of sixty nine, Kelvin Sampson would have 194 00:09:47.399 --> 00:09:51.840 become the oldest said coach to win a national championship, 195 00:09:51.840 --> 00:09:54.320 but it was not to be because Todd Golden, this 196 00:09:54.440 --> 00:09:56.840 young coach who was at San Francisco not too long 197 00:09:56.840 --> 00:10:00.519 ago and quite honestly looks like the team manager, found 198 00:10:00.519 --> 00:10:03.960 a way to get this Florida team to fight and 199 00:10:04.000 --> 00:10:07.200 come back all year long. As I referenced to Porter 200 00:10:08.120 --> 00:10:10.320 prior to filling out my bracket, I should have trusted 201 00:10:10.360 --> 00:10:13.000 my gut because every time I watched Florida this year, 202 00:10:13.120 --> 00:10:16.919 they looked amazing. They had a game against Tennessee when 203 00:10:16.919 --> 00:10:18.600 Tennessee was the number one team in the country, where 204 00:10:18.639 --> 00:10:21.679 they beat them by thirty. Okay, we could continue to 205 00:10:21.720 --> 00:10:23.519 tell they beat Auburn, who was the number one team 206 00:10:23.559 --> 00:10:25.840 overall one point. They smoked a and m they ran 207 00:10:25.879 --> 00:10:29.159 away from Bama, they killed Missouri, they beat Bama one 208 00:10:29.200 --> 00:10:32.840 oh four to eighty two in the SEC Tournament, and 209 00:10:32.879 --> 00:10:34.759 so Florida all year long was one of the best 210 00:10:34.759 --> 00:10:38.000 teams in college basketball. But when they went down twelve 211 00:10:38.000 --> 00:10:40.799 to Houston last night, I almost turned on the White 212 00:10:40.840 --> 00:10:43.200 Lotus Finale just to watch something else, even though I've 213 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:45.759 already seen it, because no part of me believed that 214 00:10:46.200 --> 00:10:47.960 any team was going to be able to come back 215 00:10:47.960 --> 00:10:51.159 from twelve points down in the second half against a 216 00:10:51.200 --> 00:10:56.759 team that has the physicality, the defensive pressure, and quite honestly, 217 00:10:56.840 --> 00:11:00.159 the experience with these upper classmen like the University of Hou. 218 00:11:00.399 --> 00:11:02.080 I thought they were just gonna suffocate them and it 219 00:11:02.120 --> 00:11:05.039 was not gonna be close. Walter Clayton Junior, a Final 220 00:11:05.039 --> 00:11:08.120 four most Valuable Player, did not have a point until 221 00:11:08.200 --> 00:11:10.919 fourteen to thirty seven left in the game. He hit 222 00:11:10.960 --> 00:11:13.200 his first three point shot with three minutes left in 223 00:11:13.200 --> 00:11:16.200 the game. Like, if you're Kelvin Sampson, that game fit 224 00:11:16.480 --> 00:11:19.200 the script that you were praying that it would for 225 00:11:19.279 --> 00:11:21.720 you to win your first national championship and then become 226 00:11:21.759 --> 00:11:23.919 a first ballot Hall of Famer. He's still gonna be 227 00:11:23.960 --> 00:11:26.799 a Hall of Fame coach. But it's just different when 228 00:11:26.840 --> 00:11:28.919 you're a champ, when you're a national champ. As I 229 00:11:29.000 --> 00:11:31.559 referenced in the open, Todd Golden becomes the youngest head 230 00:11:31.600 --> 00:11:35.279 coach to win a national championship in college basketball since 231 00:11:36.440 --> 00:11:39.399 nineteen eighty three when Jim Valvana was thirty seven years old, 232 00:11:39.440 --> 00:11:42.240 bringing that NC wolf Pack team to the national championship 233 00:11:42.320 --> 00:11:43.559 led by one thorough Bailey. 234 00:11:43.600 --> 00:11:46.879 I got a big t and Florida's gonna lose a lot. 235 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:49.440 That's a different team as Elijah Martin is gone, Walter 236 00:11:49.480 --> 00:11:50.519 Clayton Junior. 237 00:11:50.279 --> 00:11:52.159 Is gone, Will Rashard is gone. 238 00:11:52.200 --> 00:11:54.840 They've got a lot of players that were basically their 239 00:11:54.879 --> 00:11:58.279 best players this year that will leave. But Houston, this 240 00:11:58.440 --> 00:12:00.279 is one of those games. And I talked about with 241 00:12:00.320 --> 00:12:04.360 Sean during crosstalk. Emmanuel Sharp is a really good college 242 00:12:04.399 --> 00:12:06.879 basketball player. I don't know what his pro prospects are, 243 00:12:06.960 --> 00:12:09.639 maybe an overseas guy that can cut a paycheck. And 244 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:13.159 he did an excellent defensive job on Walter Clayton Junior 245 00:12:13.200 --> 00:12:16.159 for about thirty minutes or so. They are not in 246 00:12:16.200 --> 00:12:18.879 this game without em Manuel Sharp. But those back to 247 00:12:18.919 --> 00:12:22.159 back turnovers to finish the game and the final possession 248 00:12:22.240 --> 00:12:25.279 when you don't even get it on the rim. That's 249 00:12:25.320 --> 00:12:27.679 the type of stuff that stays with you your entire life. 250 00:12:27.720 --> 00:12:30.120 When the stage is that big and you're playing for 251 00:12:30.159 --> 00:12:32.480 a national championship and you have. 252 00:12:32.559 --> 00:12:34.480 It in the bag, that game was done. 253 00:12:35.320 --> 00:12:40.679 Houston went their final four possessions without a shot, four turnovers, 254 00:12:40.720 --> 00:12:44.200 den the game. I mean there are losses and then 255 00:12:44.240 --> 00:12:47.279 there are those types of losses that never fully leave you. 256 00:12:48.080 --> 00:12:50.879 And they just could not run anything down the stretch. 257 00:12:50.919 --> 00:12:53.519 I thought the length of Florida really got to them. 258 00:12:53.559 --> 00:12:56.919 They went away from Juan Roberts in the post after 259 00:12:56.960 --> 00:12:58.799 he had a little bit of success. I don't know 260 00:12:58.840 --> 00:13:01.000 how LJ. Cryer does not have the ball in his 261 00:13:01.039 --> 00:13:03.600 hands to finish off the game over the final few possessions, 262 00:13:03.600 --> 00:13:07.480 and it looked like the final possession that ended in 263 00:13:07.559 --> 00:13:10.720 Emmanuel Sharp having a jump shot contested by Clayton and 264 00:13:10.759 --> 00:13:13.840 then he had to drop the ball if he was 265 00:13:13.879 --> 00:13:16.360 a little bit more patient. They were running a misdirection 266 00:13:16.440 --> 00:13:18.080 than a ball screen to get the ball to LJ. 267 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:21.279 Cryer on the right wing because he's their best shot maker. 268 00:13:21.279 --> 00:13:25.320 He had nineteen last night. But ultimately Florida gets it done. 269 00:13:25.480 --> 00:13:28.480 They are your national champ and March Madness comes to 270 00:13:28.519 --> 00:13:31.200 a close. All right, we'll do some more college basketball 271 00:13:31.200 --> 00:13:33.639 because there's some news about the University of Utah, and 272 00:13:33.679 --> 00:13:36.679 there's some news about BYU that we'll get to. Some 273 00:13:36.720 --> 00:13:39.519 players leaving for the drafts, some players entering the transfer portal. 274 00:13:39.720 --> 00:13:43.080 I referenced the way too Early Top twenty five that 275 00:13:43.360 --> 00:13:46.879 Jeff Borzello released today. We'll get to that because Houston 276 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:50.159 is at the top. BYU is in the top twenty five, 277 00:13:50.200 --> 00:13:51.919 but not near as high as I thought they'd be. 278 00:13:51.960 --> 00:13:54.039 So we'll get to some of that coming up on 279 00:13:54.080 --> 00:13:55.919 the show. But before we catch a break, do want 280 00:13:55.919 --> 00:13:57.399 to tell you a boy. 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Just 300 00:14:52.320 --> 00:14:53.279 just a lot going on. 301 00:14:53.840 --> 00:14:55.000 A lot going on, Tony. 302 00:14:55.039 --> 00:14:56.799 And I'm old enough to remember when you were good 303 00:14:56.799 --> 00:14:58.799 at your job in the NBA, you got to keep 304 00:14:58.840 --> 00:15:01.279 it and when you were a twenty five generational player, 305 00:15:01.320 --> 00:15:04.840 you wouldn't be traded. Luka Doncic is a Laker, Taylor 306 00:15:04.960 --> 00:15:08.519 Jenkins is looking for employment, and Michael Malone after a 307 00:15:08.600 --> 00:15:10.799 decade of high level coaching and a guy who I 308 00:15:10.879 --> 00:15:13.720 like and respect a lot. I mean, his dad, Brendan Malone, 309 00:15:13.759 --> 00:15:16.440 was an assistant for Jeff and Gundhy in New York and 310 00:15:16.519 --> 00:15:18.159 so we got to know the family, and of course 311 00:15:18.200 --> 00:15:19.919 Michael was back with the Knicks for a little bit 312 00:15:19.960 --> 00:15:23.559 as well. Help us understand this, Tony, like, why, how 313 00:15:23.600 --> 00:15:26.519 did this go down? And what what's your take on 314 00:15:26.600 --> 00:15:29.240 the way they went about their business. 315 00:15:30.440 --> 00:15:34.399 So I'm going to probably go against the grain a 316 00:15:34.399 --> 00:15:37.960 little bit, but I'm not surprised that this happened at all. 317 00:15:38.240 --> 00:15:42.399 I am surprised about the timing. I think the timing 318 00:15:42.480 --> 00:15:46.240 is is definitely the most shocking part of it. But 319 00:15:48.320 --> 00:15:51.679 I talked to a store yesterday for about an hour, 320 00:15:52.600 --> 00:15:55.039 and when I got off the phone with that source, 321 00:15:56.879 --> 00:16:00.679 I called Sam Amick, you know, my good friend, and 322 00:16:01.480 --> 00:16:04.919 Kylie got the athletic and the first thing I said 323 00:16:04.919 --> 00:16:07.559 when he picked up the phone was you had the Nuggets. 324 00:16:07.879 --> 00:16:13.080 They want to fire Michael Malone. And I'm surprised that 325 00:16:13.159 --> 00:16:17.639 they did it twenty four hours later, you know, But 326 00:16:17.960 --> 00:16:22.200 I'm not surprised that at the firing at all. Things 327 00:16:22.240 --> 00:16:24.200 where things have been kind of coming to a head 328 00:16:24.240 --> 00:16:27.799 for a while. This has kind of been brewing, and 329 00:16:28.279 --> 00:16:33.000 you know, and I think I'm surprised at the timing, 330 00:16:33.600 --> 00:16:37.559 and I'm surprised that everybody went. But this was the 331 00:16:37.679 --> 00:16:42.080 very definition of a power struggle. And Josh Cronky, the 332 00:16:42.159 --> 00:16:44.360 Nuggets owners, just apparently said, both of you guys can 333 00:16:44.440 --> 00:16:47.279 lead the building at this point, and that's what happened. 334 00:16:47.639 --> 00:16:51.120 And for our listeners, when Tony says, both of you guys, 335 00:16:51.480 --> 00:16:54.679 Calvin Booth is the general manager, and he was also 336 00:16:54.759 --> 00:16:58.120 informed that his contract will not be renewed. So they 337 00:16:58.120 --> 00:17:01.200 are getting rid of their head coach, Michael Malone and 338 00:17:01.240 --> 00:17:04.279 their general manager Calvin Booth. Now I can understand getting 339 00:17:04.359 --> 00:17:07.079 rid of Calvin Booth. Like I have said, and I 340 00:17:07.160 --> 00:17:11.640 believe this to be true, that Denver has failed Nikola Jokicy. 341 00:17:12.079 --> 00:17:15.000 The Kronkeys are not an ownership group that wants to 342 00:17:15.039 --> 00:17:17.960 spend the way that Joe lacub does or some of 343 00:17:17.960 --> 00:17:20.279 the other owners like a Steve Balmer. They do not 344 00:17:20.319 --> 00:17:22.880 want to be a luxury, tax paying team. They have, 345 00:17:23.319 --> 00:17:26.519 in my opinion, the best player in this generation and 346 00:17:26.599 --> 00:17:29.000 a player that when he's done, will be among the 347 00:17:29.000 --> 00:17:31.599 best players ever to play. But I didn't view this 348 00:17:31.839 --> 00:17:34.319 as a coaching issue. I know they've lost four straight, 349 00:17:34.400 --> 00:17:37.039 but to me, Jamal Murray's hamstring is a bigger issue 350 00:17:37.079 --> 00:17:40.119 than Michael Malone's coaching. Jamal hasn't played in five games, 351 00:17:40.799 --> 00:17:44.000 and if you take okayc off the table, Denver's right 352 00:17:44.039 --> 00:17:46.400 there with everybody else and maybe a team that could 353 00:17:46.480 --> 00:17:49.000 challenge Oklahoma City because we've seen them do it before. 354 00:17:49.519 --> 00:17:54.119 So your point about the power struggle between Calvin Booth 355 00:17:54.160 --> 00:17:57.200 and Michael Malone well taken. But they're both gone. Why 356 00:17:57.240 --> 00:17:59.279 not just get rid of Calvin Booth and keep Michael 357 00:17:59.319 --> 00:17:59.960 Malone around? 358 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:00.160 Like? 359 00:18:00.200 --> 00:18:02.440 Can you is this a locker room issue? Is it 360 00:18:02.480 --> 00:18:05.519 a player issue? Like what exactly led them to doing 361 00:18:05.559 --> 00:18:06.599 this to their head coach? 362 00:18:07.079 --> 00:18:09.720 I understand the GM. I don't get the coaching thing. 363 00:18:10.720 --> 00:18:17.000 Well, because Michael Malone lost the locker room. And when 364 00:18:17.039 --> 00:18:19.759 I say he lost the locker room, that includes Nicola 365 00:18:19.839 --> 00:18:24.480 Yok he lost Nicola Yok and and and he lost 366 00:18:24.480 --> 00:18:28.720 the locker room as a whole. And uh so you 367 00:18:28.759 --> 00:18:32.759 know that's one of the reasons why you know, coach 368 00:18:32.839 --> 00:18:38.720 Malone also got fired as well. I have you know, 369 00:18:38.799 --> 00:18:43.200 some things brewing that you know that will be written 370 00:18:43.880 --> 00:18:48.079 pretty soon in the athletic. Uh in terms of specifics 371 00:18:48.119 --> 00:18:51.720 about you know, how Malone lost the locker room. But 372 00:18:52.920 --> 00:18:55.640 I can tell you from a broad sense through my 373 00:18:55.720 --> 00:18:59.519 sources that Malone lost the locker room. And you know 374 00:18:59.599 --> 00:19:02.000 there were there are several things in terms of in 375 00:19:02.119 --> 00:19:06.039 terms of Calvin, there are several things that went into 376 00:19:06.119 --> 00:19:09.039 his hiring as well, you know, one of which was, 377 00:19:09.759 --> 00:19:14.160 you know, the contract UH to Jamal Murray because of 378 00:19:14.200 --> 00:19:20.559 the their ability factor. And it wasn't that the contract 379 00:19:20.720 --> 00:19:24.680 to Murray, it was that the contract was was really 380 00:19:24.680 --> 00:19:28.200 expensive and it was really player friendly, a little bit 381 00:19:28.240 --> 00:19:35.920 too player friendly for for the cronkys taste in that, 382 00:19:36.279 --> 00:19:38.799 you know, along with you know, a couple of the 383 00:19:38.880 --> 00:19:42.720 missteps like given the technology a four year contract when 384 00:19:42.759 --> 00:19:45.720 we're not even sure he's an NBA player, you know, 385 00:19:45.839 --> 00:19:49.160 spending three second round picks to get off of UH, 386 00:19:49.200 --> 00:19:54.720 to get off of Reggie Jackson, you know, player options 387 00:19:54.720 --> 00:19:58.480 to ruffle Westbrook in Dario Sarich. You know, things like 388 00:19:58.559 --> 00:20:02.000 that that you know, have hamstring the Nuggets. I mean, 389 00:20:02.039 --> 00:20:05.400 if you look at what the Nuggets have going forward, 390 00:20:06.240 --> 00:20:11.640 you know, it's it's pretty bleak in terms of in 391 00:20:12.599 --> 00:20:18.440 terms in terms of assets, right, Like they have one 392 00:20:18.480 --> 00:20:22.160 tradable first round pick, which is twenty thirty one. They're 393 00:20:22.200 --> 00:20:25.079 twenty twenty seven and twenty twenty nine first round picks. 394 00:20:25.079 --> 00:20:26.440 And this is going to be a big shock to 395 00:20:26.559 --> 00:20:31.759 everybody here. They belong to the Oklahoma City Thunder because 396 00:20:31.759 --> 00:20:37.720 the Oklahoma City Thunder everything belongs to Oklahoma. So you know, 397 00:20:38.319 --> 00:20:41.799 there's no assets, there's no money. You know, it's gonna 398 00:20:41.839 --> 00:20:46.039 take whoever comes in and and gets the GM job. 399 00:20:46.240 --> 00:20:50.400 I mean, there's there's not really a cupboard to work with. 400 00:20:51.039 --> 00:20:53.559 And part of this I think is on the Crockys. 401 00:20:53.680 --> 00:20:58.240 It is, and you know, they made it really certain, 402 00:20:58.880 --> 00:21:00.640 they made it really certain you do not want to 403 00:21:00.680 --> 00:21:03.160 go into the second option. I mean, we do not 404 00:21:03.200 --> 00:21:06.160 want to go into the second apron. So Calvin Booth 405 00:21:06.279 --> 00:21:09.039 was in a large part working with what he had, 406 00:21:09.400 --> 00:21:12.359 which is what led to where we see the roster 407 00:21:13.759 --> 00:21:17.000 right now. Because like let's take for example, the Boston Celtics. 408 00:21:17.000 --> 00:21:19.720 The Boston Celtics, like, we can go into the to 409 00:21:20.799 --> 00:21:22.720 we can go into the the tax, we can go 410 00:21:22.759 --> 00:21:26.960 into the apron re sign you know, Jason Tatum re sign, 411 00:21:27.720 --> 00:21:32.240 Jalen Brown extend, you know, offer an extension to Drew 412 00:21:32.279 --> 00:21:36.680 Holliday and the people around them, and we'll we'll pay 413 00:21:36.720 --> 00:21:39.400 the tax. We're fine. We just want to put we 414 00:21:39.440 --> 00:21:41.599 want to put the best product in the floor as possible. 415 00:21:42.319 --> 00:21:46.559 And I think that Calvin Booth has been hamstrung in that. 416 00:21:46.759 --> 00:21:49.079 But at the same time, Calvin Booth made mistakes like 417 00:21:49.160 --> 00:21:53.519 the Zekenology contract. That's a legitimate mistake. It's untradeable, you know, 418 00:21:53.720 --> 00:21:58.640 and it's four years and you know, the the the 419 00:21:59.039 --> 00:22:02.440 Reddy Jackson trade eight you know, because he because he. 420 00:22:02.400 --> 00:22:03.240 Had a player option. 421 00:22:03.720 --> 00:22:05.759 You know, that's three second round picks. Those are three 422 00:22:05.920 --> 00:22:09.240 Those are three picks where you can either use it 423 00:22:09.279 --> 00:22:11.839 for a trade or you can, you know, try to 424 00:22:11.839 --> 00:22:14.640 go and get you can try to go and get 425 00:22:14.720 --> 00:22:18.759 rotation players. You can. So I think Calvin Booth hit 426 00:22:18.839 --> 00:22:22.599 on the margins in twenty twenty two and twenty twenty 427 00:22:22.640 --> 00:22:27.559 three in order to win Denver on the championship, to 428 00:22:27.720 --> 00:22:30.319 win Denver a championship, because he went and got Bruce Brown, 429 00:22:30.440 --> 00:22:32.880 he went and got Jeff Green. Those are hits on 430 00:22:32.920 --> 00:22:36.519 the margin. But he also lost Contavious Carwell Pope the 431 00:22:36.519 --> 00:22:40.119 free agency. He also gave the achnowledge that contract, so 432 00:22:40.480 --> 00:22:43.160 he also missed on the margins. Ever since they lost 433 00:22:43.519 --> 00:22:46.079 the championship, so it's been a really mixed back. 434 00:22:46.119 --> 00:22:49.079 There three games left for Denver. 435 00:22:49.680 --> 00:22:54.359 Last thing here, you know, because as I referenced what 436 00:22:54.759 --> 00:22:57.279 I tried to do with all my NBA guests and 437 00:22:57.319 --> 00:23:01.119 have all year. Once it became obvious that Oklahoma City 438 00:23:01.240 --> 00:23:03.759 was playing at a historic level. The conversation has to 439 00:23:03.759 --> 00:23:07.440 become okay, like who keeps Mark dagnalled up at night? 440 00:23:07.519 --> 00:23:09.160 Who are the teams that he worries about? 441 00:23:09.640 --> 00:23:12.519 I still put Denver in that category because they have 442 00:23:12.680 --> 00:23:14.440 that dude. They have a guy that we've seen do 443 00:23:14.480 --> 00:23:18.319 it before, and no one ever does it by themselves. 444 00:23:18.400 --> 00:23:22.079 Michael didn't, Kobe didn't, Lebron didn't. But Jokic is as 445 00:23:22.079 --> 00:23:25.400 close to anybody that we've seen carrying the team to 446 00:23:25.599 --> 00:23:29.119 championships in playoff runs. So what do you think best 447 00:23:29.160 --> 00:23:32.559 case scenario is for Denver as the playoffs are only 448 00:23:32.599 --> 00:23:33.319 three games away? 449 00:23:33.319 --> 00:23:33.519 Now? 450 00:23:34.880 --> 00:23:36.759 Well, I mean, I still think their best case scenario 451 00:23:36.839 --> 00:23:38.960 is the championship. Like you said, they have NICOLEA. Jokic. 452 00:23:39.559 --> 00:23:41.759 When you have that guy, you're gonna have the best 453 00:23:41.759 --> 00:23:44.160 player in every series and you're gonna have a punch 454 00:23:44.160 --> 00:23:47.599 of chance. But you know, one of the things that 455 00:23:47.680 --> 00:23:52.079 Josh Conky said publicly today was that he wants to 456 00:23:52.079 --> 00:23:55.880 see the joy back, and there are reasons for this, 457 00:23:56.799 --> 00:23:59.359 but this team is not playing with joy. This team 458 00:23:59.440 --> 00:24:04.640 is not with energy, and you know, I think and 459 00:24:05.039 --> 00:24:09.119 that's part of the reason why Malone no longer has 460 00:24:09.119 --> 00:24:12.440 a job, and you know, I know I can't I 461 00:24:12.480 --> 00:24:15.880 can't really go in the specifics, but you know, there's 462 00:24:15.960 --> 00:24:21.079 some some things that have been at play internally, you 463 00:24:21.119 --> 00:24:24.480 know that of cost this, you know, so you know, 464 00:24:24.559 --> 00:24:28.440 the hope is that you know, we start they start 465 00:24:28.480 --> 00:24:32.279 with you know, one thing, right, come out Tomorrow night, 466 00:24:33.079 --> 00:24:35.720 play with energy. They lose the sacrament on Lamorrow night, 467 00:24:36.519 --> 00:24:38.920 there's a real chance that they're going to fall into 468 00:24:38.960 --> 00:24:42.319 the playing the playing. You know, this is a team 469 00:24:42.359 --> 00:24:46.440 that was second and third in the Western Conference for 470 00:24:46.799 --> 00:24:50.000 much of the second half of the season, and you know, 471 00:24:50.079 --> 00:24:54.200 now we're talking about, you know, a one game scenario 472 00:24:54.240 --> 00:24:58.359 of the Sacramento and if that doesn't work out for them, 473 00:24:58.680 --> 00:25:01.440 you know, they're you know, there's a real real chance 474 00:25:01.960 --> 00:25:05.480 that they're playing on Tuesday next week. So you know, 475 00:25:05.559 --> 00:25:10.000 I think I think the first thing, you know, in 476 00:25:10.039 --> 00:25:12.839 a macro sense, in a micro sense, is to come 477 00:25:12.880 --> 00:25:18.000 out on Wednesday and play with energy and play with 478 00:25:18.160 --> 00:25:22.000 force against Sacramento and then just kind of take it 479 00:25:22.039 --> 00:25:27.400 from there. You know. But the Nuggets that at their peak, 480 00:25:27.599 --> 00:25:29.559 I mean, this is still you know, if they get 481 00:25:29.599 --> 00:25:33.200 Jamal Murray back healthy, of course, this is still one 482 00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:36.640 of the best starting five in the league, one of 483 00:25:36.680 --> 00:25:39.480 the most efficient starting fives in the league. You have 484 00:25:39.880 --> 00:25:42.279 Yokis playing at an insane level. The guy's going to 485 00:25:42.359 --> 00:25:46.599 average a thirty point triple double this season. This is 486 00:25:46.640 --> 00:25:50.720 truly one of the best, you know seasons anybody has 487 00:25:50.720 --> 00:25:54.839 had an NBA history offensively, you know. So there's still 488 00:25:55.480 --> 00:25:58.920 you know, a puncher's chance to win any series that 489 00:25:58.920 --> 00:26:02.279 they're in. I was in Oklahoma City, you know, three 490 00:26:02.279 --> 00:26:04.839 weeks or a month ago or whatever it was. I mean, 491 00:26:05.359 --> 00:26:08.960 it all kind of goes together, you know, where they 492 00:26:09.119 --> 00:26:12.559 caused the Thunder real issues and they beat the Thunder 493 00:26:12.920 --> 00:26:16.559 on their home floor because the Thunder could not figure 494 00:26:16.599 --> 00:26:20.920 out a way to deal with NICOLEA. Jokis. So you 495 00:26:20.960 --> 00:26:26.240 know he's going He's an ultimate mismatch. He's the ultimate 496 00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:29.559 superstar in this league that we have in our league today. 497 00:26:30.359 --> 00:26:32.279 You know. So if you have that guy on the floor, 498 00:26:32.319 --> 00:26:33.960 you have a chance to win any series that you 499 00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:35.200 can play that you're playing. 500 00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:39.200 All right, Moving off the nugget stuff, let's bounce around 501 00:26:39.200 --> 00:26:43.480 with some local stories. It was announced earlier today that 502 00:26:43.680 --> 00:26:47.359 Yegor Demon is going to lead BYU and he's. 503 00:26:47.240 --> 00:26:49.000 Going to start his pro basketball career. 504 00:26:50.079 --> 00:26:51.519 So when you look at a lot of the mocks, 505 00:26:51.559 --> 00:26:53.799 he's still a lottery pick. Some have him as a 506 00:26:53.839 --> 00:26:57.160 top ten, some of them have like mid lottery. He's 507 00:26:57.279 --> 00:26:59.720 very young, he's very raw, So anybody that will take 508 00:26:59.720 --> 00:27:02.599 a fire on him is hoping that he learns how 509 00:27:02.680 --> 00:27:05.920 to shoot it consistently. Some of the decision making stuff improves, 510 00:27:05.960 --> 00:27:09.559 and he responds to forcing physicality better than he did 511 00:27:09.559 --> 00:27:11.680 at by you. There's a lot to like from a 512 00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:15.000 scouting perspective, just simply how big and long he is 513 00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:17.240 and how creative he can be with some of the distribution. 514 00:27:17.400 --> 00:27:20.359 But now that we know it's official, uh, Dollan Hall's 515 00:27:20.359 --> 00:27:22.799 in the transfer port transfer portal B. Why you need 516 00:27:22.839 --> 00:27:24.799 to point guard? What do you make in the news 517 00:27:24.799 --> 00:27:26.519 today that Jegor Demin is leaving Provo. 518 00:27:28.960 --> 00:27:32.079 I think he had to because he's going to be 519 00:27:32.079 --> 00:27:36.839 a first round pick, and you know, you you know, 520 00:27:36.920 --> 00:27:39.839 people talk about, well this Cooper flag going to go 521 00:27:39.880 --> 00:27:42.279 back to the Duke. Of course he's not going to 522 00:27:42.319 --> 00:27:45.200 go back to Duke. And people say, oh, well, you 523 00:27:45.200 --> 00:27:48.240 know in the age of nil you can recruit that money. No, 524 00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:51.759 you can't. You don't go into the draft. You know, 525 00:27:52.200 --> 00:27:55.880 for you know, season one or season two, Uh, you 526 00:27:55.920 --> 00:27:57.720 don't go in the draft at eighteenth for season one 527 00:27:57.720 --> 00:27:59.960 a season two, you want to go into the draft eighteen. 528 00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:03.240 And so by the time you're twenty three, you're on 529 00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:05.839 a second contract and you're making one hundred million dollars. 530 00:28:06.039 --> 00:28:07.920 And then by the time you're twenty eight, you're on 531 00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:10.599 a third contract and you make another one hundred million dollars. 532 00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:12.640 And then by the time you're thirty three, you do 533 00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:16.039 the same thing. And then guess what you're You know, 534 00:28:16.359 --> 00:28:19.759 you've made a half a billion dollars over the course 535 00:28:19.799 --> 00:28:23.599 of your career. You know, So the sooner that you 536 00:28:23.680 --> 00:28:27.880 start your clock, the better for your career, the better 537 00:28:27.920 --> 00:28:29.720 off you'll be. And if you're going to be a 538 00:28:29.759 --> 00:28:32.240 first round pick, and like you said, Jego is going 539 00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:34.839 to be a first round pick because there just aren't 540 00:28:35.119 --> 00:28:41.200 many humbo size six foot nine playmakers that are available. 541 00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:45.599 And you know, as you look at Josh Giddy, right, 542 00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:48.319 and you look at how raw he was coming out, 543 00:28:48.680 --> 00:28:50.920 look at him now and look at how he developed, 544 00:28:51.400 --> 00:28:54.119 and look at how well he's playing for the Chicago Bulls, 545 00:28:54.720 --> 00:28:59.799 And that's where you see what Yegor Deman can be 546 00:29:00.200 --> 00:29:05.839 like his his ARC type. His ARC type is literally 547 00:29:06.640 --> 00:29:09.480 playing for the Chicago Bulls right now. So you know, 548 00:29:09.640 --> 00:29:13.880 Jegor comes into the league, he hits the weight room, 549 00:29:13.880 --> 00:29:15.599 he falls in love with the weight room, he falls 550 00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:19.160 in love with the process. Then you know, by the 551 00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:22.400 time he's twenty two to twenty three, twenty four years old, 552 00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:23.640 you really have something there. 553 00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:28.799 So with Dallan Hall entering the transfer portal, Kevin Young 554 00:29:28.839 --> 00:29:31.799 needs a point guard. Or maybe they run it back 555 00:29:31.839 --> 00:29:35.359 with the Dawson Baker kid because right now, you know 556 00:29:35.519 --> 00:29:39.200 aj Aj Debonsa technically is a wing. Maybe they can 557 00:29:39.359 --> 00:29:41.960 run their offense through him because he is that skilled. 558 00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:44.799 Then the Xavion Stanton kid or they're getting from Vegas, 559 00:29:44.799 --> 00:29:45.720 I believe, is a center. 560 00:29:46.000 --> 00:29:48.599 What do they do with that league guard spot? Any thoughts. 561 00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:56.759 You can try to taw Dollan back into the fold, 562 00:29:56.920 --> 00:30:04.359 which you know, no no intel for me there, but 563 00:30:04.759 --> 00:30:06.279 I would think that it might be a little bit 564 00:30:06.279 --> 00:30:08.960 easier to talking back into the fold now that you 565 00:30:09.000 --> 00:30:13.480 know he would no doubt be a starter. And you know, 566 00:30:14.039 --> 00:30:16.880 let's let's put it this way. Jaegor is a lot 567 00:30:16.920 --> 00:30:21.400 more talented than Dylan, Like he's a better player but 568 00:30:21.599 --> 00:30:26.839 Dolan is a better fit with a Javancer in my opinion, 569 00:30:27.319 --> 00:30:31.400 than Yegor is because Jaegor for him to be effective, 570 00:30:32.119 --> 00:30:34.599 he needs the ball in his hands. I don't think 571 00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:38.200 Dollan needs the ball in his hands as much h 572 00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:42.200 to be effective. And what you what I'm getting at here, 573 00:30:42.880 --> 00:30:45.359 is that what you want if your b YU is 574 00:30:45.400 --> 00:30:47.759 you want the ball in aj Devance's hands, or you 575 00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:51.559 want the ball in richie'sunders hands as much as humanly 576 00:30:51.640 --> 00:30:56.880 possible next year, Like that is, you know, immediately Richie's 577 00:30:56.880 --> 00:31:01.119 Thunders and aj Devancer are immediately one of the best 578 00:31:01.200 --> 00:31:05.640 duos in college basketball. And you know, Adadavanta is a 579 00:31:05.720 --> 00:31:10.200 playmaking wing. He's a playmaking whatever if he's a shooting 580 00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:13.680 guard or a small forward, he's a playmaking wing. And 581 00:31:13.960 --> 00:31:18.400 I think Dallan can can can playoff of both of 582 00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:22.160 those guys. Uh add side for the position. I mean, 583 00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:25.319 he obviously has side for the position at defense for 584 00:31:25.440 --> 00:31:28.240 the position. Uh and you know, just kind of be 585 00:31:28.279 --> 00:31:31.039 a connector because I think Dollan's more of a connecting 586 00:31:31.599 --> 00:31:35.440 type point guard, Like you don't really want him, you know, 587 00:31:35.519 --> 00:31:38.519 being your dominant ball handler, but as a connector, as 588 00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:43.279 a guy who's who's you know, making secondary players off 589 00:31:43.319 --> 00:31:46.720 the dribble, like you really want him uh in that 590 00:31:46.839 --> 00:31:48.559 role as well, and I think that he can thrive 591 00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:49.079 in that role. 592 00:31:50.119 --> 00:31:50.519 All right. 593 00:31:50.599 --> 00:31:53.680 So on the Utah basketball side of things, you know, 594 00:31:53.759 --> 00:31:56.599 it still is a little bit quiet as far as 595 00:31:56.680 --> 00:32:00.160 you know, Alex continuing to fill out his staff. We 596 00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:02.680 don't really know what the rest of the staff is 597 00:32:02.680 --> 00:32:05.440 going to look like. Alex Hopton with Sean yesterday and 598 00:32:06.240 --> 00:32:08.640 had some interesting things to say about, you know, the 599 00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:10.640 type of staff he's looking for. It's not going to 600 00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:13.119 be as big as some of the other, you know, 601 00:32:13.160 --> 00:32:16.039 the other staffs in college basketball. So we're still a 602 00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:19.039 waiting word on, you know, on Andre Miller type. The 603 00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:23.240 transfer portal continues to bring news. Mike shrav Jamps is 604 00:32:23.279 --> 00:32:27.119 now officially in the transfer portal, Kano Dawes is back 605 00:32:27.240 --> 00:32:30.200 to play for AJA coming up next year, Jake Wallen 606 00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:33.519 is in the transfer portal. In addition to some other pieces, 607 00:32:33.559 --> 00:32:36.720 Mire a little found a landing spot. So we're still 608 00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:40.559 waiting to kind of learn exactly what Utah basketball is 609 00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:43.640 going to look like next year. You know, you were 610 00:32:43.640 --> 00:32:45.880 good enough to kind of talk talk to us about 611 00:32:46.200 --> 00:32:48.400 Raphael Chilius, the guy that you know and you played 612 00:32:48.400 --> 00:32:51.839 with back in the day. And apparently this Fairly Dickinson 613 00:32:51.880 --> 00:32:55.640 transferre Terrence Brown has a direct relationship with coach Chilius, 614 00:32:55.960 --> 00:32:57.519 and he was one of the top ten scorers in 615 00:32:57.559 --> 00:33:01.160 college basketball last year twenty one points, six boards, three 616 00:33:01.160 --> 00:33:04.240 point two assists. Shout out to the Great Northeast Conference 617 00:33:04.279 --> 00:33:07.839 that you're familiar with, where Fairley Dickinson, you know, obviously 618 00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:11.119 is located. Any insight on this, uh, this transfer that 619 00:33:11.200 --> 00:33:14.039 AJ was able to grab. According to on three, he's 620 00:33:14.079 --> 00:33:17.640 a four star transfer with a composite ranking of ninety 621 00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:18.240 three point. 622 00:33:18.119 --> 00:33:19.039 Two out of one hundred. 623 00:33:19.440 --> 00:33:21.640 So we have two pieces of the puzzle, now Kiano 624 00:33:21.720 --> 00:33:24.279 Dawes and now Terrence Brown. Any insight as far as 625 00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:26.000 what type of player Terrence is. 626 00:33:27.279 --> 00:33:31.119 Well, because I'm a basketball sico, I have watched Terrence 627 00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:36.359 Brown play, you know, my question for you know, my 628 00:33:36.480 --> 00:33:40.160 question is how is he going to adjust the big 629 00:33:40.200 --> 00:33:43.759 twelve physicality? But he's explosive off the dribble. He can 630 00:33:43.759 --> 00:33:46.640 shoot the ball, he can score the ball. He can 631 00:33:46.680 --> 00:33:50.400 score the ball and in multiple ways. He can score 632 00:33:50.400 --> 00:33:54.279 it at three levels. He's obviously proficient from three. He 633 00:33:54.319 --> 00:33:57.480 can get into the lane and get off the floater. 634 00:33:57.599 --> 00:33:59.240 He can get all the way to the basket off 635 00:33:59.240 --> 00:34:04.160 the dribble. You know, it's it's going to be interesting, 636 00:34:05.400 --> 00:34:10.079 uh from size, from a side standpoint, you know how 637 00:34:10.159 --> 00:34:15.079 he adjusts to you know, the physicality and the athleticism 638 00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:19.599 of the big twelve. You know. But he's a good 639 00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:23.320 a good addition. And what you want is somebody who's 640 00:34:23.400 --> 00:34:26.199 dynamic off the dribble. And what you want is somebody 641 00:34:26.199 --> 00:34:33.159 who can create most importantly basketball advantages. And and you know, 642 00:34:33.320 --> 00:34:36.280 at least in the Northeast Conference, there was no better 643 00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:39.519 UH player in that conference than Terrence Brown that career 644 00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:41.920 creating a basketball advantage off the dribble. 645 00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:46.000 So we kind of await word as far as what 646 00:34:46.079 --> 00:34:47.920 the staff and the rest of the roster will look like. 647 00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:50.199 But let's end with a little Utah jazz, Tony. We 648 00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:53.400 haven't talked a lot of jazz with you lately because 649 00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:55.679 if we're honest, there's just not a lot to talk about. 650 00:34:55.800 --> 00:34:57.199 Everyone knows what time it is. 651 00:34:57.840 --> 00:35:00.000 They have three wins since the All Star break, there 652 00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:02.119 one and nineteen in their last twenty. 653 00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:04.320 We know what they're doing. We know what they're trying 654 00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:04.639 to do. 655 00:35:05.159 --> 00:35:06.679 But what I'll ask you today that I have been 656 00:35:06.719 --> 00:35:10.079 ashti in a while is with these grit with the 657 00:35:10.119 --> 00:35:12.800 grip of young players, and with the young players, I 658 00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:15.480 will remove Walker from the equation because I think we 659 00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:17.639 all can agree that Walker has played himself in the 660 00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:21.960 future plans of this organization. But I want, I just 661 00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:24.760 want to kick the tires with you on this group 662 00:35:24.840 --> 00:35:27.559 of young players. And we'll remove Taylor Hendricks because of 663 00:35:27.599 --> 00:35:32.679 course that he's hurt. But Isaiah Collier, Kyle Philipowski, of course, 664 00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:35.599 you know, will include Keyante in the mix, Cody Williams 665 00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:37.760 in the mix. Right cents upon the mix of these 666 00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:42.000 first and second year players, who do you feel has 667 00:35:42.039 --> 00:35:45.440 played their way to at least consideration to be around 668 00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:47.880 here long term, to be a piece of the puzzle 669 00:35:47.880 --> 00:35:51.079 when the Jazz are actually interested, interesting and serious about 670 00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:51.639 winning again. 671 00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:57.079 I will probably say Kyle Philipowski is the most likely 672 00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:02.920 because he he's the most unique. Uh he's you know, 673 00:36:03.000 --> 00:36:06.360 six eleven and seven foot Uh he you know, he 674 00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:13.360 obviously shoot the ball from three. It's funny because, uh, 675 00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:17.639 you know, some of the conversations with the Jazz two 676 00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:19.559 years ago, and they were like we're gonna bring Cal. 677 00:36:19.800 --> 00:36:22.639 This was after cost poss freshman or a duke. We're 678 00:36:22.639 --> 00:36:26.239 gonna bring Cal counsel Powski in. We're gonna bring him 679 00:36:26.239 --> 00:36:30.199 in for a want workout. We're definitely considering him, uh 680 00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:34.159 with our you know, our initial first round pick and 681 00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:37.440 that year was number nine, and that's the pick that 682 00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:40.800 that became you know, Taylor Hendrix. And I was like, 683 00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:44.239 you guys are crazy, like dude thinks like you know, 684 00:36:44.840 --> 00:36:49.960 I didn't like him at Duke, and now that I've 685 00:36:50.039 --> 00:36:53.199 seen him, you know a little bit more up close. 686 00:36:53.360 --> 00:36:56.559 I mean, they were absolutely right. Like he's he's kind 687 00:36:56.599 --> 00:37:00.639 of a mismatch offensively, Uh, he's, you know, so much 688 00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:03.840 tougher than I thought he was when he was at Duke. 689 00:37:03.920 --> 00:37:06.199 He's a lot more athletic than I thought he was 690 00:37:06.239 --> 00:37:09.679 when he was at Duke. You can see the development 691 00:37:09.840 --> 00:37:14.159 from you know, when he was drafted to now and 692 00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:17.079 you know, I think this guy has a chance to 693 00:37:17.559 --> 00:37:20.639 one day be an offensive I don't know about offensive 694 00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:24.000 engine because those guys are like twenty five points a night, 695 00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:26.960 but he, you know, I think he's got a chance 696 00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:32.960 to be a pretty significant offensive player in this league. Now, 697 00:37:33.039 --> 00:37:36.719 defenses is another story. You know, he can't really defend, 698 00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:38.840 and he's got to get a lot better at that. 699 00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:44.559 But you know, he's like really kind of a walking mismatch. 700 00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:47.159 Like you know, he's he's too big and strong and 701 00:37:47.239 --> 00:37:51.960 quick for fours, he's too quick for five. You know, 702 00:37:52.039 --> 00:37:54.599 he can space you out, he can go off the drubble, 703 00:37:54.760 --> 00:37:59.239 he's got counter moves. He's really crafty and cerebral. He's 704 00:37:59.400 --> 00:38:02.280 very tough, and he's got a lot more athletic pop. 705 00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:05.760 And then you know, you you give him credit for it. 706 00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:09.000 Looks like a choir boy, but he's definitely, Uh, he's 707 00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:13.840 definitely a really tough kid. He's what I would imagine 708 00:38:14.679 --> 00:38:16.679 and I hate to bring this up. I don't want 709 00:38:16.679 --> 00:38:23.760 to be blasphemous, but he's what I in today's league, 710 00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:28.239 and you know, and I think that, uh, he's he's 711 00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:31.079 been really really good for the Jazz in his in 712 00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:33.039 his rookie year, and I think he's got a chance, 713 00:38:33.599 --> 00:38:35.679 uh to be here for for a long time. 714 00:38:36.800 --> 00:38:38.880 All right, Tony, I know you're busy. We'll set you loose. 715 00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:40.840 Keep up the good work. I appreciate the time. 716 00:38:40.679 --> 00:38:43.400 Okay, no problem. Appreciate you, my guy. 717 00:38:43.639 --> 00:38:47.000 Tony Jones covers well the NBA for the athletic He's 718 00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:49.360 on the Nuggets beed right now, and he and Sam 719 00:38:49.360 --> 00:38:53.400 Amic with a piece up today concerning the shocking firing 720 00:38:53.519 --> 00:38:55.840 of Michael Malone with only three games left in the 721 00:38:55.880 --> 00:38:57.800 season and Denver is the four seed. 722 00:38:58.360 --> 00:38:59.039 Uh So there you go. 723 00:38:59.079 --> 00:39:01.239 You get Tony's work on his Twitter page at t 724 00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:03.679 Jones on the NBA. Brought to you today by our 725 00:39:03.719 --> 00:39:07.239 friends at IFA Country Stores. 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The Florida Gators are your national champ 740 00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:08.800 But shockey news in the world of pro basketball today, 741 00:40:08.840 --> 00:40:11.519 after a decade of very high level play, including a 742 00:40:11.639 --> 00:40:15.480 championship in Denver, Michael Malone has been fired by. 743 00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:16.280 The Kronky family. 744 00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:18.760 Our next guest probably has some thoughts on that. 745 00:40:18.840 --> 00:40:20.840 Tim. I'm old enough to know. 746 00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:22.639 I'm old enough to remember that if you were a 747 00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:25.559 generational player at the age of twenty five, you weren't traded, 748 00:40:26.000 --> 00:40:27.679 and if you were a really good coach, you could 749 00:40:27.719 --> 00:40:30.760 keep your job. But Michael Malone, Taylor Jenkins, Luka Dacic, 750 00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:34.320 this league is wild. We're all reacting to this in 751 00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:36.960 real time. But what was your initial reaction when you 752 00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:39.440 heard that the Kronkeys have moved off of Michael Malone? 753 00:40:41.239 --> 00:40:44.719 So my initial reaction was, well, I guess we know 754 00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:47.360 who won the power struggle between Michael Malone and Calva 755 00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:50.800 Booth and then oh no, they're both gone. So they 756 00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:55.079 ended up both losing the power struggle. So you know, 757 00:40:55.400 --> 00:40:59.280 I mean, you're making this decision with three games less 758 00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:02.920 than a regular season. To me, the guy is the 759 00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:06.079 winning his coach in franchise history. He won a title 760 00:41:06.119 --> 00:41:08.159 two years ago. You know, the most playoff wins in 761 00:41:08.239 --> 00:41:12.639 franchise history. He at least deserved a playoff run to 762 00:41:12.679 --> 00:41:15.840 be able to try to save his job. But Josh 763 00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:20.519 Croncky came to the conclusion that you know, as I 764 00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:22.800 was told, the way he explained to the rest of 765 00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:25.840 the coaching staff was, you know, the plane was going 766 00:41:25.880 --> 00:41:28.639 down and he was going to do whatever he could 767 00:41:28.639 --> 00:41:30.840 to try to save it, and they might not have 768 00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:32.719 a safe landing, but they're going to try. And he 769 00:41:32.800 --> 00:41:35.639 felt like the only way to do that was to 770 00:41:36.840 --> 00:41:41.159 fire them alone and basically tell Captain Booth, hey, thanks 771 00:41:41.199 --> 00:41:43.440 for your services, but they're no longer needed, you know, 772 00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:46.719 not going to do his contract. He's out now. And 773 00:41:47.280 --> 00:41:50.519 you know, essentially this power struggle between the coach and 774 00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:54.440 the GM ended up costing both of them their jobs 775 00:41:54.599 --> 00:41:58.280 and the Nuggets are going to win the best player 776 00:41:58.280 --> 00:42:01.280 in the world. Try to salvage the situation right away. 777 00:42:01.800 --> 00:42:05.320 I have no insight personally on where this power struggle 778 00:42:05.480 --> 00:42:09.119 began or why, but I can connect dots between some 779 00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:13.119 what I perceived to be puzzling roster construction decisions, and 780 00:42:13.159 --> 00:42:17.159 also financially, the ownership group clearly did not want to 781 00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:20.360 allocate necessary funds to keep some of their key pieces. 782 00:42:20.400 --> 00:42:23.840 But what was the impetus of this booth verse Malone thing? 783 00:42:23.880 --> 00:42:25.960 Where did this start and why did it get so bad? 784 00:42:26.880 --> 00:42:30.719 You know, I mean it's a pretty typical power struggle 785 00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:33.559 between coach and general manager. General manager wants coach to 786 00:42:33.559 --> 00:42:38.360 play young guys. Coach wants to rely on debts. You know. Look, 787 00:42:38.440 --> 00:42:42.360 they losing Bruce Brown and the way the title run. 788 00:42:42.840 --> 00:42:45.360 That was a simple problem, like they were. You know, 789 00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:48.039 there was a CBA math thought they couldn't pay him 790 00:42:48.119 --> 00:42:52.280 anything close to what he got. That's understandable. You know, 791 00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:55.760 Michael Malone wanted Jeff Green. The front office didn't want 792 00:42:55.800 --> 00:42:57.840 Michael Malone to keep playing Jeff Green. They wanted to 793 00:42:57.840 --> 00:43:01.840 play Peyton Watson. They lowball Jeff He's gone. You know. 794 00:43:01.960 --> 00:43:07.159 KCP was another case where you know, the front office said, no, 795 00:43:07.239 --> 00:43:10.440 we want Christian Brown to starting lineup, and Malone wanted 796 00:43:10.440 --> 00:43:13.400 to keep KCP. You know, Christian Brown, by the way, 797 00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:16.199 has had a very good year as a starter. Z ignag. 798 00:43:16.239 --> 00:43:19.079 He's another one. It's a young player who honestly hadn't 799 00:43:19.079 --> 00:43:21.119 done a whole lot, but got an extension from the 800 00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:23.679 front office. Malone didn't want to play him, you know 801 00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:26.320 he so there's a lot of that kind of stuff, 802 00:43:26.360 --> 00:43:28.960 and then you know you've got pride and you've got 803 00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:32.159 personalities here, and you know, Malone is not exactly what 804 00:43:32.239 --> 00:43:36.280 I would describe as a delicate flower. When he's not happy, 805 00:43:36.440 --> 00:43:39.840 you will be very well aware of it. He's very confrontational. 806 00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:42.679 And Calvin Booth, I was told, was kind of the 807 00:43:42.760 --> 00:43:46.639 one person who fought back against Malone, and again they 808 00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:48.719 ended up being they threw a bunch of punches and 809 00:43:49.559 --> 00:43:51.519 you know, they both got knocked out. 810 00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:55.480 So Tony Jones, your buddy from the Athletic Key and 811 00:43:55.559 --> 00:43:59.360 Sam amck are reporting that Mike Malone, Michael Malone, let's 812 00:43:59.400 --> 00:44:02.840 call him the name that he prefers, lost the locker room, 813 00:44:02.920 --> 00:44:06.800 and that includes Nikola Jokic, which, look, I'm not questioning 814 00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:08.800 Sam or Tony. I wouldn't do that to them, just 815 00:44:08.800 --> 00:44:11.119 like I wouldn't question you when you tell us things 816 00:44:11.119 --> 00:44:13.199 based off your reporting, we use them on the show. 817 00:44:14.119 --> 00:44:17.079 It's just that that doesn't feel like a Jokic. 818 00:44:16.800 --> 00:44:20.239 Thing to me right now. We have seen some emotional 819 00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:23.960 outbursts lately. They've lost four straight. I would put that 820 00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:26.239 on Jamal Murray's hamstring as much as anything. 821 00:44:26.320 --> 00:44:28.719 They are eleven and thirteen since the All Star break. 822 00:44:29.119 --> 00:44:31.320 But what do you make of that dynamic that maybe 823 00:44:31.360 --> 00:44:34.039 Michael Malone's players were even fed up with the way 824 00:44:34.079 --> 00:44:36.119 he was approaching things. 825 00:44:36.719 --> 00:44:39.760 I was told that Malone looks. You always hear that 826 00:44:39.800 --> 00:44:42.360 when coach gets fired, especially good season. Right, you'red the 827 00:44:42.360 --> 00:44:45.639 same thing with Taylor Jenkins in this I was told 828 00:44:45.679 --> 00:44:47.639 the same thing. I was told the players had quit 829 00:44:47.719 --> 00:44:51.320 on him, not necessary that Joker had quit on him, 830 00:44:51.320 --> 00:44:55.840 but Joker. What I was told directly was that Joker 831 00:44:55.880 --> 00:45:00.280 had tired of Malone's ego. You know, I don't. I 832 00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:03.719 don't know for certain that this was a decision that 833 00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:06.400 was run by Joker before it was made. But if 834 00:45:06.440 --> 00:45:08.639 it wasn't, that would surprise me, and I would think 835 00:45:08.639 --> 00:45:11.119 I would be pretty a pretty strange way to operate 836 00:45:11.119 --> 00:45:15.400 a franchise. But based on what I've been told by 837 00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:20.039 people who were involved, you know, with that franchise, people 838 00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:23.559 that work for the Nuggets, they don't think this is 839 00:45:23.599 --> 00:45:27.880 going to be a decision that necessarily upsets Joker, and 840 00:45:28.079 --> 00:45:31.239 they were pretty confident saying that they wouldn't be upset 841 00:45:31.239 --> 00:45:33.840 into Jamal Murray very interesting. 842 00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:40.039 You know, ever since Oklahoma City established themselves as the 843 00:45:40.079 --> 00:45:43.000 clear favorite and best team in the West and maybe 844 00:45:43.199 --> 00:45:46.559 the league, I've asked you and mcminimon all of our 845 00:45:46.639 --> 00:45:49.159 NBA guests that we have on who keeps s mart 846 00:45:49.239 --> 00:45:52.320 dagnalled up at night? And on more than a handful 847 00:45:52.360 --> 00:45:55.239 of occasions, the answer has been the Denver Nuggets. 848 00:45:55.280 --> 00:45:56.679 Do you think this change is that? 849 00:45:56.920 --> 00:45:59.119 Are they still a gitman threat even with all the 850 00:45:59.159 --> 00:46:00.840 chaos that's gone. 851 00:45:59.880 --> 00:46:04.320 To tell me how Jamal Murray's feeling come playoff? 852 00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:04.840 For sure? 853 00:46:05.920 --> 00:46:09.679 I mean that, honestly, that's the answer. I was told 854 00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:15.119 that Murray and Jokic both really do like David Adaman, 855 00:46:15.119 --> 00:46:17.880 who's going to be the interim coach. You know, maybe 856 00:46:18.039 --> 00:46:20.840 there's this is a situation where those guys kind of 857 00:46:20.920 --> 00:46:24.039 rally behind a coach who they'd like to get the 858 00:46:24.159 --> 00:46:27.039 job on a permanent basis, And you know, we'll see 859 00:46:27.039 --> 00:46:30.519 how all that plays out. But look, the Nuggets are 860 00:46:30.559 --> 00:46:33.159 going to have the best player probably in any series 861 00:46:33.199 --> 00:46:36.400 that they play in. I mean, you know, maybe Luca 862 00:46:36.760 --> 00:46:39.559 on any given series, could be better in Joker, maybe 863 00:46:39.599 --> 00:46:41.960 Shane any given series, But I like the Nuggets dogs 864 00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:45.039 there that's going to at least give you a fighting chance. 865 00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:47.960 But Joker can't do it alone. He can't be the 866 00:46:47.960 --> 00:46:51.199 only star. They need Murray playing at the kind of 867 00:46:51.280 --> 00:46:53.920 level that he played out during that title run to 868 00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:55.880 have any hope of making a deep run of the West. 869 00:46:56.800 --> 00:47:01.000 So the La Clippers have entered the group chat man. 870 00:47:01.480 --> 00:47:04.320 You know, whenever Kawhi Leonard is healthy and for a 871 00:47:04.400 --> 00:47:08.000 long stretch and decides that he's invested, we're all reminded 872 00:47:08.039 --> 00:47:10.280 of like, oh, yeah, he is one of those dudes 873 00:47:10.320 --> 00:47:12.920 and has been for a long time. They went on 874 00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:15.079 a stretch where they were like two and six in 875 00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:17.719 their previous eight and then I think they're eleven and 876 00:47:17.800 --> 00:47:21.159 three in their last fourteen, including winners of four straight 877 00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:23.280 and eight and two in their last ten. I know 878 00:47:23.320 --> 00:47:25.039 that we're all supposed to just say the Clippers are 879 00:47:25.079 --> 00:47:27.559 going to clip, because we've been conditioned to believe that, 880 00:47:27.760 --> 00:47:30.599 But their recent run doesn't feel like nothing. 881 00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:31.400 What do you make of it? 882 00:47:32.480 --> 00:47:35.599 There's definitely not nothing. And look, they kept their heads 883 00:47:35.599 --> 00:47:38.719 well above water even walk Kawhi was out for a 884 00:47:38.719 --> 00:47:42.199 big stretch of the season, and they've had They've had 885 00:47:42.199 --> 00:47:44.400 a lot of guys who've had great years, who have 886 00:47:44.519 --> 00:47:48.559 played better than I think people anticipated they would. Norman 887 00:47:48.639 --> 00:47:53.239 Powell has been awesome all season long. I mean, Zubats 888 00:47:53.719 --> 00:47:57.119 has had a phenomenal year. You know they have. I 889 00:47:57.119 --> 00:47:59.239 think they ran third defensively, you know, or they are 890 00:47:59.239 --> 00:48:03.119 at least the top defense. Zubots has been phenomenal there. 891 00:48:03.360 --> 00:48:06.639 You know, getting Chris done has really helped him bringing 892 00:48:06.719 --> 00:48:11.000 back the tomb. James Harden doesn't have the prettiest shooting numbers, 893 00:48:11.639 --> 00:48:16.800 but he's been extremely effective, you know, operating that offense. 894 00:48:17.639 --> 00:48:20.280 You know the fact that the Zubots and Pale, these 895 00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:23.239 guys are having career years. I think Harden's got something 896 00:48:23.280 --> 00:48:25.559 to do with that. Tyler's a hell of a coach, 897 00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:28.280 and so is Jeff Van Gundy. And Jeff Van Gundy's 898 00:48:28.280 --> 00:48:32.960 fingerprints are all over that defense. And so look, do 899 00:48:33.039 --> 00:48:34.639 I think that the Clippers are going to win the West? 900 00:48:34.920 --> 00:48:34.960 No? 901 00:48:35.519 --> 00:48:39.360 Do I think They're going to be, you know, a 902 00:48:39.360 --> 00:48:41.800 B word to match up with in the playoffs. I 903 00:48:41.880 --> 00:48:42.679 absolutely do. 904 00:48:43.960 --> 00:48:46.199 And for equal time, I'm going to ask you about 905 00:48:46.239 --> 00:48:49.920 another team that actually recently has the very same trajectory. 906 00:48:49.960 --> 00:48:53.159 Minnesota win I think three and five over an eight 907 00:48:53.199 --> 00:48:55.960 game stretch, and they're twelve and four. I believe in 908 00:48:56.000 --> 00:48:58.800 their last sixteen winners of five straight, seven and three 909 00:48:58.800 --> 00:49:01.280 in their last ten. It seems like every week we 910 00:49:01.320 --> 00:49:03.599 have you on, I'm I'm asking you about Denver and 911 00:49:03.639 --> 00:49:05.880 the Lakers, and of course, of course Golden State with 912 00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:08.519 that run with Jimmy Butler. But has the recent run 913 00:49:08.519 --> 00:49:10.719 of play for Minnesota changed your mind about what they 914 00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:12.400 can do this year in the playoffs? 915 00:49:13.239 --> 00:49:16.639 Again, They're They're a tough matchup. You know, their biggest 916 00:49:16.760 --> 00:49:19.679 flaw all season long has been closing games, and that's 917 00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:22.880 been an Ant issue. You know, Ant playing hero ball 918 00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:26.679 down a stretch and there have been examples are recently 919 00:49:26.719 --> 00:49:29.400 down to stretch of games where you know Ant was 920 00:49:29.480 --> 00:49:33.639 making the right plays, Ant was making good decisions. If 921 00:49:34.039 --> 00:49:37.440 Ant has matured in that regard, you know, if he's 922 00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:40.920 turned a corner and that fast of the game, you've 923 00:49:40.920 --> 00:49:43.960 got to respect the front or I'm sorry the Timberwolves. 924 00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:46.800 I know they were a Western Conference finals team last year, 925 00:49:46.880 --> 00:49:50.679 and you know, he's one of the fallow top played 926 00:49:51.360 --> 00:49:53.400 eight or ten players in the league. Definitely one of 927 00:49:53.440 --> 00:49:56.559 the most talented players in the league. And you know 928 00:49:56.679 --> 00:50:00.800 they've they're fixed right now in defense. But you know, 929 00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:03.800 they've got the ability to be one of, if not 930 00:50:03.880 --> 00:50:06.119 the best decent well, I'm gonna say the second best defense. 931 00:50:06.119 --> 00:50:07.280 I don't think they can be as good as the 932 00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:10.800 Thunder defensively, they've got the ability to be absolutely elite 933 00:50:10.840 --> 00:50:11.719 on that end the floor. 934 00:50:12.920 --> 00:50:15.400 So I'll just bottom line it, because, like I said, 935 00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:17.599 every week we ask you about that's the Thunder and 936 00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:20.360 everybody else? Who would you put at the top of 937 00:50:20.400 --> 00:50:22.760 the list right now of the group of teams that 938 00:50:23.000 --> 00:50:25.239 is everybody else as we currently stand today. 939 00:50:26.800 --> 00:50:31.079 You know, I had to do this for an ESPN 940 00:50:31.119 --> 00:50:34.320 dot com thing that ran earlier this week, and I 941 00:50:34.360 --> 00:50:36.519 put the Nuggets and then they fired their coaching GM. 942 00:50:38.199 --> 00:50:42.719 So I mean, honestly, dude, I could make a case 943 00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:46.199 for the Lakers. I can make a case for still 944 00:50:46.239 --> 00:50:49.440 the Nuggets because primarily of Joker. I can make a 945 00:50:49.480 --> 00:50:52.239 case for the Houston Rockets they're the two seed. You know. 946 00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:54.400 I can make a case for the Warriors. So I 947 00:50:54.400 --> 00:50:58.400 guess that's a long way of saying that. It's like that, 948 00:50:58.519 --> 00:51:01.800 I PA it believes Red Rocks has they a final 949 00:51:01.880 --> 00:51:04.639 r p A. There you go, and that's kind of 950 00:51:04.639 --> 00:51:06.360 where I am with this one. 951 00:51:06.440 --> 00:51:08.559 Well, as long as you only have two of those things, 952 00:51:08.880 --> 00:51:10.119 because they'll hit you pretty hard. 953 00:51:10.119 --> 00:51:15.000 I'll tell you that much that yes, they are all right. 954 00:51:16.079 --> 00:51:18.400 What what does Matt Ashbia do and the what do 955 00:51:18.480 --> 00:51:20.000 the Phoenix Suns do this offseason? 956 00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:20.199 Tim? 957 00:51:20.239 --> 00:51:23.079 I mean, I was having dinner with some buddies last 958 00:51:23.159 --> 00:51:25.719 night and we were talking about the Jazz and how 959 00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:28.280 long it will take until they get back to at 960 00:51:28.360 --> 00:51:32.519 least a decent level of respectability and winning. And you 961 00:51:32.519 --> 00:51:35.039 know the fact that there's a team with Kevin Durant 962 00:51:35.039 --> 00:51:38.719 and Devin Booker, and of course there are issues beneath 963 00:51:38.760 --> 00:51:41.639 the surface as opposed to just giving you names on paper. 964 00:51:41.719 --> 00:51:45.760 But they are of course out of anything special this year. 965 00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:50.800 They are in salary capel. What happens in Phoenix this offseason. 966 00:51:51.079 --> 00:51:53.559 Well, they will have a lottery pick that goes to 967 00:51:53.599 --> 00:51:59.280 the Houston Rockets. They will most likely fire the coach 968 00:51:59.440 --> 00:52:02.519 again for the third straight year, and they'll go three 969 00:52:02.599 --> 00:52:06.880 for three with that under Matt Eshpia. You know, I 970 00:52:06.920 --> 00:52:11.840 don't know, Maybe they like the championship proven the coach 971 00:52:11.920 --> 00:52:14.400 and maybe they hire Michael Malone's available. All of a sudden, 972 00:52:16.679 --> 00:52:19.800 they will almost certainly trade Kevin Durant, where I don't 973 00:52:19.840 --> 00:52:21.440 think they're going to get anything close to what they 974 00:52:21.440 --> 00:52:23.599 gave up for him. He's going to absolutely have to 975 00:52:23.599 --> 00:52:26.920 say and where he goes, and they will attempt to 976 00:52:27.000 --> 00:52:32.320 retool that roster around Devin Booker and continue to be 977 00:52:32.559 --> 00:52:36.519 absolutely all in. Now, is that the path that I 978 00:52:36.559 --> 00:52:38.880 would advise? No, it is not. Have they asked me 979 00:52:38.960 --> 00:52:42.480 for my input? No they have not. I asked them 980 00:52:42.519 --> 00:52:45.519 for what their plan was, and that's the plan that 981 00:52:45.519 --> 00:52:46.440 they laid out to me. 982 00:52:47.199 --> 00:52:48.719 All right, last thing, I will set you loose. 983 00:52:48.760 --> 00:52:50.360 I now you got a busy day, and I will 984 00:52:50.400 --> 00:52:53.320 ask you just a general question about the Jazz because 985 00:52:53.719 --> 00:52:57.000 you know I can get into the black magic and 986 00:52:57.039 --> 00:52:59.840 stretch at times to make topics interesting. But they're one 987 00:52:59.840 --> 00:53:02.360 in nineteen and their last twenty. They have three wins 988 00:53:02.360 --> 00:53:05.119 since the All Star break. Last three games they've given 989 00:53:05.199 --> 00:53:07.559 up one forty plus. But none of it matters because 990 00:53:07.599 --> 00:53:10.239 we all know the deal. Just what are you anticipating 991 00:53:10.280 --> 00:53:13.360 this offseason? Like, what what's the general approach? I don't 992 00:53:13.360 --> 00:53:16.320 think we're gonna hear Danny Ainge give a pressure where 993 00:53:16.360 --> 00:53:19.559 he talks about big game hunting ever again. But what 994 00:53:19.559 --> 00:53:22.400 do you think the general approach and obviously the first 995 00:53:22.400 --> 00:53:24.719 piece of the puzzle is the pick they get come May. 996 00:53:24.840 --> 00:53:27.159 But for jazz fans out here that are curious, and 997 00:53:27.199 --> 00:53:30.840 they're thirsty and and the patience is running thin, what's 998 00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:33.440 the off season have in store? Yeah? 999 00:53:33.519 --> 00:53:36.159 And the big game hunting thing really surprised me last 1000 00:53:36.199 --> 00:53:39.239 year because I didn't like, you think you're a player 1001 00:53:39.280 --> 00:53:43.320 away and you're a rebuilt away. And obviously that's the 1002 00:53:43.400 --> 00:53:47.519 route that they've taken. And look, man, we all understand. 1003 00:53:47.599 --> 00:53:50.000 This whole year has been lead up to the lottery 1004 00:53:50.840 --> 00:53:53.239 and if they land fifth in the lottery, it's going 1005 00:53:53.280 --> 00:53:57.239 to be awfully depressing. If they land first, then you 1006 00:53:57.239 --> 00:53:59.760 know it's gonna be cast for celebration, and you know, 1007 00:53:59.840 --> 00:54:01.960 souddenly things are looking up. Not that they'll be a 1008 00:54:01.960 --> 00:54:04.199 playoff team or anything next year, but they'll have a 1009 00:54:04.239 --> 00:54:10.360 clear franchise cornerstone and the guy to build around. But look, 1010 00:54:10.480 --> 00:54:14.760 this is it's still I would say, the the very 1011 00:54:14.800 --> 00:54:17.760 early in a rebuild. And I think you can argue 1012 00:54:17.800 --> 00:54:21.360 that the rebuild was delayed more than it should have been. 1013 00:54:21.480 --> 00:54:24.079 You know, they kind of half rebuilt for a couple 1014 00:54:24.159 --> 00:54:28.960 of years. They're full blown rebuilding now. You know, you 1015 00:54:29.039 --> 00:54:30.920 hope you get lucky in the lottery. You hope that 1016 00:54:30.960 --> 00:54:34.360 all that work that you did to earn the best 1017 00:54:34.400 --> 00:54:38.039 odds pans out for you. It's sure I hadn't been 1018 00:54:38.039 --> 00:54:39.840 a whole lot of fun to watch, or I'm sure 1019 00:54:39.920 --> 00:54:45.360 for anybody in that organization to live through. And honestly, 1020 00:54:45.400 --> 00:54:47.880 like we talked before the deadline, I thought that that, 1021 00:54:48.119 --> 00:54:50.480 you know, whether it was Colin Sexton or Jordan Clarkson, 1022 00:54:50.639 --> 00:54:51.559 John Collins. 1023 00:54:51.239 --> 00:54:52.760 At least one of those guys. 1024 00:54:53.039 --> 00:54:56.280 Would get moved and have all those discussions again this summer. 1025 00:54:57.039 --> 00:54:58.679 And you know, this is a team that I think 1026 00:54:59.119 --> 00:55:02.320 you're trying to build to be in position to be good, 1027 00:55:02.440 --> 00:55:04.880 you know, in twenty six and twenty seven and for 1028 00:55:04.920 --> 00:55:07.519 a little while after that, but you're still a ways. 1029 00:55:07.320 --> 00:55:10.199 Away, Yes, sir, all right, buddy, set you loose, Thanks 1030 00:55:10.199 --> 00:55:13.039 for the time, be good all I appreciate it. Tim 1031 00:55:13.079 --> 00:55:18.280 McMahon covers the NBA, you know, like Tony from the Athletic. 1032 00:55:18.760 --> 00:55:21.840 Tony covers the jazz when they're interesting, and Tim covers 1033 00:55:21.880 --> 00:55:24.719 the jazz when they're interesting, and neither of them are 1034 00:55:24.719 --> 00:55:25.880 covering the jazz this year. 1035 00:55:26.360 --> 00:55:28.000 So we'll see what the off season brings. 1036 00:55:28.119 --> 00:55:31.280 Of course, the lottery will be the first step to 1037 00:55:31.320 --> 00:55:35.159 understand through which prism they'll approach the rest of the 1038 00:55:35.159 --> 00:55:37.840 off season, whether it's Cooper Flag. Hopefully at least it's 1039 00:55:37.840 --> 00:55:41.000 in the top three or top four. I don't think 1040 00:55:41.000 --> 00:55:43.320 they'll fall further than that, but it is a lottery, 1041 00:55:43.360 --> 00:55:46.480 so you never know. 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It's kind of who they were after going 1105 00:59:01.159 --> 00:59:02.800 down twelve to Houston. 1106 00:59:03.960 --> 00:59:07.320 Twelve points to Houston is like twenty five or thirty 1107 00:59:07.360 --> 00:59:08.079 to other teams. 1108 00:59:08.119 --> 00:59:11.599 I mean, this is a big, physical, defensive basketball team 1109 00:59:11.639 --> 00:59:13.559 that likes to take the air out of the ball, 1110 00:59:14.119 --> 00:59:14.920 slow it down. 1111 00:59:15.280 --> 00:59:16.920 And when they went up twelve, I thought it was 1112 00:59:17.039 --> 00:59:17.800 essentially over. 1113 00:59:18.800 --> 00:59:23.280 But Emmanuel Sharp, who is a really really good college 1114 00:59:23.320 --> 00:59:27.320 basketball player and did a really really good job on 1115 00:59:27.360 --> 00:59:30.480 Walter Clayton Junior for the first thirty minutes or so 1116 00:59:30.599 --> 00:59:34.639 of the game, had two of the most shocking plays 1117 00:59:34.679 --> 00:59:37.039 down the stretch that you are going to see in 1118 00:59:37.119 --> 00:59:40.400 a basketball game. This was as much about the Houston 1119 00:59:40.480 --> 00:59:44.519 Cougars collapsing flat on their face as it was about 1120 00:59:44.519 --> 00:59:48.719 the Florida Gators capitalizing, seizing the moment, and making enough 1121 00:59:48.719 --> 00:59:50.719 plays down the stretch to get that win. It was 1122 00:59:50.760 --> 00:59:54.000 a great basketball game to culminate what I thought was 1123 00:59:54.039 --> 00:59:56.840 a really good tournament. I think we all probably prefer, 1124 00:59:57.119 --> 01:00:01.199 you know, more buzzer beaters, more overtime games. There weren't 1125 01:00:01.320 --> 01:00:03.559 very many of either of those, and there were no 1126 01:00:03.760 --> 01:00:08.639 Cinderellas zero. Okay, Cinderella to me has to reach at 1127 01:00:08.719 --> 01:00:12.679 least the Sweet sixteen to be deemed a Cinderella team 1128 01:00:12.719 --> 01:00:16.000 on a run, and there was not one Cinderella in 1129 01:00:16.039 --> 01:00:17.119 the final sixteen. 1130 01:00:17.199 --> 01:00:17.559 Teams. 1131 01:00:17.599 --> 01:00:19.840 Do not sell me on Arkansas. It's a ten seed. 1132 01:00:20.440 --> 01:00:23.920 John Calipari has a team coming back. His top six 1133 01:00:23.920 --> 01:00:27.000 players are coming back. He's adding three really really good 1134 01:00:27.039 --> 01:00:29.880 transfers and recruits. They're a top ten team next year. 1135 01:00:30.760 --> 01:00:32.599 We'll get to the way too early, top twenty five. 1136 01:00:32.639 --> 01:00:35.199 We'll let you know where BYU is Utah. Of course 1137 01:00:35.320 --> 01:00:38.400 not in there as of now, but porter I was 1138 01:00:38.440 --> 01:00:42.920 talking about this with Sean during cross talk, and Sean 1139 01:00:43.199 --> 01:00:45.880 shared a story as a high school football player when 1140 01:00:45.880 --> 01:00:48.199 he had an opportunity for a very easy pick six 1141 01:00:48.239 --> 01:00:52.559 and he pumped faked, pump faked, and ended up essentially 1142 01:00:53.199 --> 01:00:56.440 not deciding what to do and then ultimately didn't make 1143 01:00:56.440 --> 01:00:59.599 the play. And I'm sorry if you're em Manuel Sharp 1144 01:00:59.639 --> 01:01:02.840 you will be he's seventy five years old, because I 1145 01:01:02.840 --> 01:01:04.639 don't know that he's an NBA guy. I think Emmanuel 1146 01:01:04.679 --> 01:01:06.440 Sharp is a guy that could maybe make a little 1147 01:01:06.440 --> 01:01:09.159 bit of money playing basketball overseas or something like that. 1148 01:01:09.840 --> 01:01:13.360 But there's a chance that that's the final time that 1149 01:01:13.440 --> 01:01:17.519 Emmanuel Sharp will be playing in a basketball game that 1150 01:01:17.639 --> 01:01:20.800 has that much at stake. And I am not bringing 1151 01:01:20.800 --> 01:01:22.679 this up to pile on the kid, because honestly, I 1152 01:01:22.719 --> 01:01:26.519 feel horrible for Emmanuel Sharp, who had a really, really 1153 01:01:26.519 --> 01:01:28.800 good year. He is a junior, so he will return 1154 01:01:29.559 --> 01:01:31.840 to Houston next year, so maybe they have a shot 1155 01:01:31.920 --> 01:01:34.519 to get back to where they were. But this stuff 1156 01:01:34.559 --> 01:01:36.719 is so fleeting, and I was thinking about this today 1157 01:01:36.719 --> 01:01:40.119 through the prism of Denver firing Michael Malone. I mean, 1158 01:01:40.119 --> 01:01:42.480 if you're a Denver Nuggets fan, the past five six 1159 01:01:42.559 --> 01:01:45.079 years of Denver Nugget basketball, it's been the best stretch 1160 01:01:45.119 --> 01:01:46.000 you have ever had. 1161 01:01:46.960 --> 01:01:49.719 Shout out tr Don Danissel. This has been. 1162 01:01:51.360 --> 01:01:54.800 A dream scenario for a market that is very similar 1163 01:01:54.840 --> 01:01:57.119 to Salt Lake. It's similar to Salt Lake in size. 1164 01:01:57.119 --> 01:02:01.079 Denver's a bigger city than we are. They've got pro baseball, 1165 01:02:01.119 --> 01:02:04.079 they've got Pro football, it's a I think it's a 1166 01:02:04.079 --> 01:02:06.920 top fifteen to sixteen market something like that. We're top thirty, 1167 01:02:07.000 --> 01:02:10.159 so they're bigger than we are. But as far as 1168 01:02:10.199 --> 01:02:16.400 the you know, the geographical proximity, the challenges of attracting 1169 01:02:16.440 --> 01:02:20.320 players to play there in free agency. You know, I've 1170 01:02:20.320 --> 01:02:23.039 always kind of taken a little bit of solace in 1171 01:02:23.119 --> 01:02:25.880 what Denver has been able to do as somebody who 1172 01:02:25.920 --> 01:02:27.559 badly wants the jazz to be good again. 1173 01:02:28.559 --> 01:02:29.960 Make the jazz good again? You know what? 1174 01:02:30.360 --> 01:02:36.039 Hu interesting, not great? Make the jazz good again. You 1175 01:02:36.039 --> 01:02:39.760 know what, let's just lean into it. Print the shirts, 1176 01:02:40.239 --> 01:02:42.599 make the jazz. Should we say great again? Or should 1177 01:02:42.599 --> 01:02:44.559 we say good again? Because it's baby steps? 1178 01:02:44.639 --> 01:02:47.440 Well, my take there would be the jazz haven't. 1179 01:02:47.280 --> 01:02:51.280 Been great ever, No, because if you're great, you win 1180 01:02:51.320 --> 01:02:52.760 a championship, you win one. 1181 01:02:52.920 --> 01:02:55.119 Now, let's be clear they were. That was a great 1182 01:02:55.199 --> 01:03:00.480 roster maybe, but yeah, I think greatness greatness for acquires 1183 01:03:00.719 --> 01:03:04.000 a trophy, in my opinion, at least at a team level. 1184 01:03:05.239 --> 01:03:08.840 Okay, I got it. Make the jazz almost great again? 1185 01:03:09.880 --> 01:03:12.000 Mtja GA. 1186 01:03:12.480 --> 01:03:14.920 I like the acronym. It's very simple, easy to easy 1187 01:03:14.960 --> 01:03:15.320 catch up. 1188 01:03:15.360 --> 01:03:17.760 Well, if we're going to start a movement. We need 1189 01:03:17.800 --> 01:03:22.599 an acronym you do in order to print the shirts, 1190 01:03:22.639 --> 01:03:25.039 print the hats, and then make All we have to 1191 01:03:25.039 --> 01:03:27.039 do is convince people that this is a real thing. 1192 01:03:27.119 --> 01:03:28.119 Come up with a bunch of. 1193 01:03:28.519 --> 01:03:32.480 Conspiracy theories, maybe an act, some tariffs on some free 1194 01:03:32.480 --> 01:03:33.159 agent signings. 1195 01:03:33.199 --> 01:03:34.360 I think we're onto something here. 1196 01:03:35.679 --> 01:03:39.079 Let's go Kevin Malone the office. A few words, do good, 1197 01:03:39.480 --> 01:03:41.199 few words, do trick, very nice. 1198 01:03:41.280 --> 01:03:46.519 Jazz good again, jga jga, jazz good again. Make the 1199 01:03:46.639 --> 01:03:49.280 jazz almost great again like they were in the nineties. Look, 1200 01:03:49.280 --> 01:03:52.440 I'm an idea man. Okay, we're work shopping on air here. Okay, 1201 01:03:52.480 --> 01:03:56.920 but back to the original point. A number of examples 1202 01:03:57.199 --> 01:03:59.760 lately in the NBA I think should give jazz fans 1203 01:03:59.760 --> 01:04:02.800 some home hope about where the jazz can be. With 1204 01:04:02.880 --> 01:04:05.280 a couple of savvy moves and you knock out you know, 1205 01:04:05.360 --> 01:04:09.000 you land on the right draft pick, no matter where 1206 01:04:09.000 --> 01:04:10.920 it is. And then suddenly, if you land on the 1207 01:04:10.960 --> 01:04:13.559 right draft pick and you start to develop young players 1208 01:04:13.599 --> 01:04:16.159 the right way, other players will want to play for you. 1209 01:04:16.199 --> 01:04:19.360 We saw that here not too long ago, when Dennis 1210 01:04:19.360 --> 01:04:21.840 Lindsay expedited the growth of the jazz by trading for 1211 01:04:21.920 --> 01:04:26.400 Mike Conley, one of the most well respected, efficient pick 1212 01:04:26.440 --> 01:04:28.840 and roll ball handlers of this generation. 1213 01:04:28.920 --> 01:04:29.639 That's who Mike is. 1214 01:04:29.679 --> 01:04:32.679 I mean at his peak, of course, not the player 1215 01:04:32.719 --> 01:04:35.119 that he once was from Minnesota, but at Mike Conley's peak, 1216 01:04:35.159 --> 01:04:37.679 he was one of the best lead guards in the NBA, 1217 01:04:37.840 --> 01:04:41.079 and certainly his reputation as a member of the community, 1218 01:04:41.159 --> 01:04:43.280 his reputation as a leader in the locker room, made 1219 01:04:43.280 --> 01:04:47.119 that savvy move by Dennis Lindsay expedite the growth of 1220 01:04:47.159 --> 01:04:48.760 this team to the point that they were. You know, 1221 01:04:48.920 --> 01:04:53.000 Mike Conley missed three away from advancing in the postseason. 1222 01:04:53.119 --> 01:04:56.000 Maybe fully healthy, they look different in the playoffs, but 1223 01:04:56.000 --> 01:05:00.880 obviously that's revisionist history. And then there's Giannis in Milwaukee, 1224 01:05:00.960 --> 01:05:03.360 where the Bucks want a championship in a city where 1225 01:05:03.400 --> 01:05:05.440 not a lot of players care to play. A lot 1226 01:05:05.440 --> 01:05:09.159 of examples as of late, as far as you know, 1227 01:05:09.159 --> 01:05:11.119 if you're a Jazz fan, to look at that isn't 1228 01:05:11.159 --> 01:05:14.440 simply Lebron going to Miami, or the Lakers getting just 1229 01:05:14.480 --> 01:05:16.760 another start because that's what the Lakers do, or the 1230 01:05:16.760 --> 01:05:19.280 Celtics just being the Celtics. There are some examples that 1231 01:05:19.280 --> 01:05:21.559 have risen up and Denver's one of them. 1232 01:05:22.000 --> 01:05:23.800 But back to the point, like this stuff is. 1233 01:05:23.719 --> 01:05:27.960 So fleeting, and when you're in the moment as a fan, 1234 01:05:28.960 --> 01:05:31.599 you feel like the success in the run will last 1235 01:05:31.639 --> 01:05:35.840 forever because it feels like something's been built and then 1236 01:05:35.880 --> 01:05:39.400 it's sustainable, and then you're stunned when it goes the 1237 01:05:39.440 --> 01:05:40.639 other way, you know. 1238 01:05:40.719 --> 01:05:42.519 I saw coach Win last night. He was at the 1239 01:05:42.599 --> 01:05:43.519 Hall of Fame dinner. 1240 01:05:44.320 --> 01:05:47.400 My high school basketball coach, Mike Maxwell was inducted in 1241 01:05:47.519 --> 01:05:49.920 the Utah Sports Hall of Fame, and I saw Kyle 1242 01:05:49.960 --> 01:05:52.280 for a minute. Oh, by the way, porter, you should know. 1243 01:05:53.039 --> 01:05:56.000 Kyle said to me, whenever you want me on, just 1244 01:05:56.079 --> 01:05:56.480 let me know. 1245 01:05:56.639 --> 01:05:57.360 Kyle Whittingham. 1246 01:05:57.440 --> 01:06:01.280 Kyle Whittingham as opposed to Kyle who I don't know. 1247 01:06:01.760 --> 01:06:04.800 Coach Wit said to me, Hey, whenever you need me, 1248 01:06:04.920 --> 01:06:06.320 just let me know a hop on whenever. 1249 01:06:06.480 --> 01:06:07.760 So we're gonna we're gonna hold it two that. 1250 01:06:07.800 --> 01:06:10.679 Which I responded, be very careful what you promised, because 1251 01:06:10.719 --> 01:06:13.000 I will call you tomorrow to join the radio show. 1252 01:06:13.039 --> 01:06:13.960 But he was very nice. 1253 01:06:14.960 --> 01:06:18.880 But it made me think like Utah Football Big twelve 1254 01:06:18.880 --> 01:06:21.599 preseason picked to win the thing. Everybody thought, both locally 1255 01:06:21.639 --> 01:06:24.719 and Ashley that this is the team that will win 1256 01:06:24.760 --> 01:06:26.679 the Big Twelve and go to and expanded twelve team 1257 01:06:26.800 --> 01:06:31.440 CFP and Utah football. Basically since the early two thousands, 1258 01:06:31.519 --> 01:06:35.119 it's been about a twenty year stretch of mostly really 1259 01:06:35.159 --> 01:06:39.119 really good years, and so last year caught everybody off 1260 01:06:39.159 --> 01:06:42.000 guard because to me, it was a reminder of how 1261 01:06:42.039 --> 01:06:44.519 fleeting this stuff is, and how is a fan you've 1262 01:06:44.559 --> 01:06:47.400 got to enjoy when it's good, because it is never 1263 01:06:47.519 --> 01:06:48.760 good all the time. 1264 01:06:49.320 --> 01:06:50.239 It is cyclical. 1265 01:06:51.039 --> 01:06:53.320 I'm sure there were youth fans that felt like Utah 1266 01:06:53.480 --> 01:06:57.440 was never going to lose to BYU again after coach 1267 01:06:57.480 --> 01:07:01.639 Wit had basically created what perceive what everybody perceived to 1268 01:07:01.679 --> 01:07:06.360 be a very sizable talent gap on the roster and 1269 01:07:06.440 --> 01:07:09.000 went through a stretch where Utah was winning like every 1270 01:07:09.079 --> 01:07:13.800 single year. It's a generation still of Utah dominance over BYU. 1271 01:07:13.840 --> 01:07:18.199 But I said during that streak, I said during the run, like, 1272 01:07:18.400 --> 01:07:21.079 you know this won't last forever. These things are cyclical. 1273 01:07:21.159 --> 01:07:24.960 These things are fleeting and windows closed so quickly. Like 1274 01:07:25.000 --> 01:07:27.440 if you're a Denver Nuggets fan today, you are shaking 1275 01:07:27.599 --> 01:07:31.119 your head. If you are Kelvin Sampson and the Houston Cougars, 1276 01:07:31.159 --> 01:07:34.320 today you are waking up going what the hell happened? 1277 01:07:35.239 --> 01:07:39.199 We were right there, which brings me backporter to what 1278 01:07:39.239 --> 01:07:43.400 I've talked about with Sean during crosstalk today, because there's 1279 01:07:43.440 --> 01:07:45.119 no other way to spend this and again, I am 1280 01:07:45.159 --> 01:07:47.039 not bringing this up to pile on this young man. 1281 01:07:47.079 --> 01:07:50.000 I'm sure Emmanuel Sharp is having a really rough day. 1282 01:07:51.320 --> 01:07:53.960 And I always find this interesting because you don't have 1283 01:07:54.000 --> 01:07:57.719 to be on the national championship stage to remember that 1284 01:07:57.840 --> 01:08:00.239 one moment where you missed the shot or you made 1285 01:08:00.280 --> 01:08:02.760 the turnover, Are you blue the defensive assignment? Are you 1286 01:08:02.880 --> 01:08:06.079 dropped the pass, or you fumbled the ball, you missed 1287 01:08:06.119 --> 01:08:09.079 the tackle that led to the game winning play, and 1288 01:08:09.159 --> 01:08:11.599 ultimately you are the reason your team lost. So I 1289 01:08:11.639 --> 01:08:14.639 told the story earlier, and I am forty seven years old. 1290 01:08:14.719 --> 01:08:17.760 This happened to me when I was sixteen, just high 1291 01:08:17.760 --> 01:08:22.119 school basketball. Massive comeback against a rival school and had 1292 01:08:22.119 --> 01:08:24.079 a really good fourth quarter, and then I had an 1293 01:08:24.079 --> 01:08:27.119 opportunity to win the game and I actually got free. 1294 01:08:27.239 --> 01:08:30.199 I had like a five foot bunny and instead of 1295 01:08:30.279 --> 01:08:32.880 using the backboard, which you should have done, I tried 1296 01:08:32.880 --> 01:08:35.000 to float it in and I shot a little flutter. 1297 01:08:35.039 --> 01:08:37.920 I'm like Oh that's good. Around the rim, boom falls out, 1298 01:08:38.159 --> 01:08:38.960 buzzer sounds. 1299 01:08:39.000 --> 01:08:39.479 We lose. 1300 01:08:40.680 --> 01:08:43.640 That wasn't for any It was a high school basketball game. 1301 01:08:43.680 --> 01:08:44.560 It wasn't toun to me. 1302 01:08:44.920 --> 01:08:48.319 I should have I should have two hands, two feet 1303 01:08:48.319 --> 01:08:51.079 that I was a two footed jumper. There are still 1304 01:08:51.159 --> 01:08:55.000 times where randomly, my dumb bing bong brain will remind me, like, hey, 1305 01:08:55.000 --> 01:08:57.000 do you remember when you missed that game winner against Wilton? 1306 01:08:57.039 --> 01:09:01.279 This was nineteen ninety five, And if that sticks with me, 1307 01:09:02.199 --> 01:09:05.720 our guy, this poor guy, Emmanuel Sharp is going to 1308 01:09:05.800 --> 01:09:08.960 be seventy five years old remembering the two turnovers he 1309 01:09:09.039 --> 01:09:12.880 made to lose the national championship. It would have been 1310 01:09:12.960 --> 01:09:16.720 Houston's first national championship. They had five slam a Jama, 1311 01:09:16.800 --> 01:09:20.680 they had chem Olajuan take them to three straight final fours. 1312 01:09:20.760 --> 01:09:24.000 Kelvin Sampson sixty nine years old, you win that national championship. 1313 01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:25.600 You are a first ballot Hall of Famer. 1314 01:09:26.640 --> 01:09:30.279 Do you have a moment or moments that still seep 1315 01:09:30.279 --> 01:09:33.479 into your consciousness when you were a wide out at Summit? 1316 01:09:33.479 --> 01:09:36.560 Where was it Summit High School? South? Is there a 1317 01:09:36.600 --> 01:09:37.119 North Summit? 1318 01:09:37.159 --> 01:09:38.800 There is? Don't don't make that mistake. 1319 01:09:38.840 --> 01:09:41.600 Oh wow, wait is there beef between North and South Summit. 1320 01:09:41.600 --> 01:09:44.920 Oh very much. So that's that's like bitter rivals. Did 1321 01:09:44.960 --> 01:09:47.359 you ever ow Summit camus Coville, North Summit? 1322 01:09:47.439 --> 01:09:47.600 Yeah? 1323 01:09:47.640 --> 01:09:50.600 Were you ever tipping over any cattle that North Summit 1324 01:09:50.640 --> 01:09:53.600 had just to say in your face, I'm just wondering 1325 01:09:53.640 --> 01:09:54.439 what it's like up there. 1326 01:09:54.439 --> 01:09:57.520 What's the I mean, there's they're small town rivalry stuff 1327 01:09:57.520 --> 01:10:00.520 we never got into. I mean by the time came around, 1328 01:10:00.520 --> 01:10:02.680 it was I guess Facebook beef. 1329 01:10:02.720 --> 01:10:04.159 I don't know Fase beef. 1330 01:10:04.960 --> 01:10:09.520 But but yeah, there's uh, there's there's rivalry, uh rivalry 1331 01:10:09.520 --> 01:10:11.520 stuff going on up in up in that little valley. 1332 01:10:11.560 --> 01:10:15.359 I will say, personally, like individually, in a in a 1333 01:10:15.399 --> 01:10:18.079 big time moment like that, there there's not much that 1334 01:10:18.239 --> 01:10:21.399 stands out. I had. I had my probably biggest like 1335 01:10:21.439 --> 01:10:25.560 blunder individually. Was I had a technical foul on a 1336 01:10:25.640 --> 01:10:29.279 dunk that I missed. Yes, I hung on the No, 1337 01:10:29.359 --> 01:10:30.800 I hung on the rim on a dunk that I 1338 01:10:30.840 --> 01:10:33.000 shot off the back of the rim and went out 1339 01:10:33.039 --> 01:10:35.720 of bounds. I missed it, and then I remained on 1340 01:10:35.760 --> 01:10:38.159 the rim and got a technical lost us like four 1341 01:10:38.199 --> 01:10:42.760 points on the possession. But I will say relating to 1342 01:10:42.800 --> 01:10:47.680 what happened to Houston. My my last experience playing playing 1343 01:10:47.760 --> 01:10:52.760 high school basketball was one where, uh, we were like, 1344 01:10:52.800 --> 01:10:54.880 we were the favorite team. We were one of the 1345 01:10:54.720 --> 01:10:56.239 with the top teams in the state. We came in 1346 01:10:56.279 --> 01:10:59.319 against shout out to our guys down there in Gunnison 1347 01:10:59.359 --> 01:11:01.760 in the middle of no where. They came up and 1348 01:11:02.840 --> 01:11:07.239 played really, really well. And at the end of the 1349 01:11:07.279 --> 01:11:09.800 game we had the ball with a chance to win it, 1350 01:11:10.279 --> 01:11:14.720 and on the inbound we had an awesome play drawn up. 1351 01:11:14.840 --> 01:11:19.359 Shout out to my coach, Dusty, awesome play drawn up. 1352 01:11:19.760 --> 01:11:23.279 And not gonna name any names, but we had a 1353 01:11:24.159 --> 01:11:31.800 missed communication miss I'm not saying any it was, but 1354 01:11:31.880 --> 01:11:35.319 it went through someone's hands. The Gunnison just picked it up, 1355 01:11:35.319 --> 01:11:37.680 scooped it up and kind of sealed the game. But 1356 01:11:38.000 --> 01:11:39.640 it was one of those moments where it was a 1357 01:11:39.640 --> 01:11:44.319 anti climactic finish where your team had it in the 1358 01:11:44.359 --> 01:11:45.960 grasp of their hands and then all of a sudden, 1359 01:11:46.000 --> 01:11:49.279 your career's over like that really like in ten seconds, 1360 01:11:49.439 --> 01:11:51.359 it goes from oh, hey, we're gonna be playing in 1361 01:11:51.399 --> 01:11:53.199 the next round, We're gonna be playing for a state title, 1362 01:11:53.479 --> 01:11:56.000 and then ten seconds later, because of kind of a 1363 01:11:56.039 --> 01:11:58.720 you know, a botched play or a miscommunication with what 1364 01:11:58.760 --> 01:12:01.800 the play was supposed to be. We're headed home, and 1365 01:12:02.039 --> 01:12:05.279 it ended like that, and obviously not the stage of 1366 01:12:05.520 --> 01:12:07.319 the Final four, but yeah, I relate to it in 1367 01:12:07.399 --> 01:12:08.039 that way. 1368 01:12:08.119 --> 01:12:13.000 The emotional toll that it takes and the scars that 1369 01:12:13.079 --> 01:12:16.479 it leaves, because look, you know what this was like, 1370 01:12:16.920 --> 01:12:19.600 and I'm sure a bulk of our listeners know what 1371 01:12:19.640 --> 01:12:21.239 this is like as well, Like if you listen to 1372 01:12:21.239 --> 01:12:24.479 sports talk radio and if you watch games, there's a 1373 01:12:24.479 --> 01:12:27.319 good chance at some point you played. And at some 1374 01:12:27.479 --> 01:12:30.279 point all of us probably were delusional and young and 1375 01:12:30.399 --> 01:12:32.520 dumb to believe at some point we would be these 1376 01:12:32.560 --> 01:12:34.399 guys that are playing in college and in pros. 1377 01:12:34.439 --> 01:12:36.199 I mean, that certainly was my dream. 1378 01:12:36.560 --> 01:12:38.640 And what it means that much when you're that young, 1379 01:12:38.800 --> 01:12:40.960 if you don't, like I can even remember, this is 1380 01:12:41.199 --> 01:12:42.479 wild to even bring up. 1381 01:12:43.560 --> 01:12:45.159 I was at a jazz basketball camp. 1382 01:12:45.199 --> 01:12:48.239 I think I was ten, and I'd made it to 1383 01:12:48.279 --> 01:12:50.880 the finals of the free throw contest where you get 1384 01:12:50.880 --> 01:12:53.000 a trophy if you win the free throw contest. There 1385 01:12:53.000 --> 01:12:55.880 we go, and I can remember the night before because 1386 01:12:55.920 --> 01:12:57.359 it was a week long thing. I used to go 1387 01:12:57.399 --> 01:12:59.640 with my cousins. Shout out to my cousin Chad, and 1388 01:12:59.640 --> 01:13:01.880 my cousin and Jay. May my cousin Jay rest in peace. 1389 01:13:01.880 --> 01:13:03.920 He sadly passed away. But the three of us used 1390 01:13:03.960 --> 01:13:06.560 to go his birthdays tomorrow. Wow, I'm glad I brought 1391 01:13:06.560 --> 01:13:08.039 that up. But the three of us used to go 1392 01:13:08.039 --> 01:13:10.119 to camp together. It was a week long thing. That 1393 01:13:10.279 --> 01:13:12.800 is when John Stockton famously told us to get the 1394 01:13:12.800 --> 01:13:14.600 hell away from his car, which broke my heart as 1395 01:13:14.600 --> 01:13:16.640 a ten year old, but that's who John kind of was. 1396 01:13:17.399 --> 01:13:18.680 But I made it to the free throw final. 1397 01:13:18.720 --> 01:13:22.600 I was really pumped and I blew it like I 1398 01:13:22.600 --> 01:13:24.920 had made eighteen of twenty to make it to the 1399 01:13:24.920 --> 01:13:27.720 final round. And it was me and some bro and 1400 01:13:27.760 --> 01:13:30.479 I could not sleep. I was nervous as I'll get out, 1401 01:13:30.600 --> 01:13:33.119 and I think I hit like thirteen of twenty, which 1402 01:13:33.159 --> 01:13:34.880 is not close enough to win it. He went like 1403 01:13:34.920 --> 01:13:37.680 seventeen of twenty and won it. And I cried like 1404 01:13:37.720 --> 01:13:40.479 a baby all the way home because I lost some 1405 01:13:40.520 --> 01:13:43.000 free throw freaking contest. I'm ten years old and I 1406 01:13:43.000 --> 01:13:46.800 still remember. It's there's just something. I'm not a psychologist, 1407 01:13:46.840 --> 01:13:51.920 but there's something about the emotion that goes into the 1408 01:13:51.960 --> 01:13:54.079 sports that you play when you're young, because it just 1409 01:13:54.199 --> 01:13:57.319 feels like it means so much. As you age, you 1410 01:13:57.359 --> 01:13:59.600 have perspective, but in the moment, it feels like you 1411 01:13:59.640 --> 01:14:01.640 have low everything all at once. 1412 01:14:02.000 --> 01:14:05.000 I think that's the entire point to it. Is your 1413 01:14:05.079 --> 01:14:08.560 perspective when you're fourteen years old you're playing sports, is 1414 01:14:08.600 --> 01:14:12.600 that this is everything. And to give you an idea, spence, 1415 01:14:12.680 --> 01:14:16.039 put yourself in those shoes right back when you were seventeen, 1416 01:14:16.119 --> 01:14:20.840 eighteen years old, and then imagine that that continues for 1417 01:14:21.399 --> 01:14:25.279 four or five years, right, your everything, that perspective you 1418 01:14:25.359 --> 01:14:28.000 have when you're eighteen nineteen, it's still going on when 1419 01:14:28.039 --> 01:14:30.399 you're twenty five, you're twenty six, you're in the NBA, 1420 01:14:30.520 --> 01:14:34.239 you're in high level college basketball. Imagine how much that 1421 01:14:34.439 --> 01:14:37.159 feels like, right, Imagine the pressure that that gives you 1422 01:14:37.840 --> 01:14:44.199 versus me playing a two a basketball game in North Sampete, Utah. 1423 01:14:44.319 --> 01:14:50.319 Right Like, it's it's gotta be that times eight million 1424 01:14:50.399 --> 01:14:52.119 when it comes to the feeling that these guys are 1425 01:14:52.119 --> 01:14:54.880 dealing with the pressure that these guys are dealing with. 1426 01:14:55.439 --> 01:15:00.159 And yeah, when we're doing radio twenty years later, we 1427 01:15:00.199 --> 01:15:02.560 have some perspective that you know, it was just a game. 1428 01:15:02.640 --> 01:15:05.479 It was just our teenage years. But you don't have 1429 01:15:05.520 --> 01:15:08.079 that when you're living it. And that is true when 1430 01:15:08.119 --> 01:15:11.760 you're still keeping that dream alive in college and beyond that. 1431 01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:15.079 Yeah, got it for a manual sharp and still stunned 1432 01:15:15.840 --> 01:15:18.199 as to what I witnessed last night. And we'll get 1433 01:15:18.359 --> 01:15:20.960 with Ken Palmer about this in a little bit, But 1434 01:15:21.039 --> 01:15:23.680 a twelve point lead for Houston, based off of how 1435 01:15:23.720 --> 01:15:27.600 I saw Houston shut off everybody's water all year, felt 1436 01:15:27.600 --> 01:15:29.680 like it was insurmountable. I give Todd Golden a ton 1437 01:15:29.720 --> 01:15:32.039 of credit and those Florida kids a ton of credit 1438 01:15:32.079 --> 01:15:34.680 for just sticking with it and staying in the fight. 1439 01:15:34.760 --> 01:15:37.560 You know, they do say style makes styles make fights. 1440 01:15:37.560 --> 01:15:40.279 Sometimes that's a little cliche, and I think if you're 1441 01:15:40.319 --> 01:15:43.439 Calvin Sampson, you've got a lot of self reflecting to do, 1442 01:15:43.560 --> 01:15:45.399 even though that dude's been the game for a long time. 1443 01:15:45.439 --> 01:15:49.479 You can't even get a shot off in your final 1444 01:15:49.680 --> 01:15:52.520 four possessions. You can't even get a shot like four 1445 01:15:52.560 --> 01:15:56.800 turnovers in a row. The only thing that could have 1446 01:15:56.920 --> 01:16:01.640 allowed Florida to win was a combination of the ability 1447 01:16:01.680 --> 01:16:03.880 of them to stay in the fight. But Houston had 1448 01:16:03.920 --> 01:16:06.239 to lay a big egg, and they did, and that 1449 01:16:06.319 --> 01:16:09.479 makes this one tough. So we asked you to text 1450 01:16:09.479 --> 01:16:11.239 in nice things about Porter to go play golf. 1451 01:16:11.239 --> 01:16:14.640 I don't think we can do this anymore. This is sure. Well, 1452 01:16:14.680 --> 01:16:16.840 I think people are really uh hamming it up. 1453 01:16:16.880 --> 01:16:18.359 I think this is I don't think this is a 1454 01:16:18.359 --> 01:16:20.439 healthy exercise for your already inflated ego. 1455 01:16:20.680 --> 01:16:23.960 You don't think these people are being completely you know, 1456 01:16:25.199 --> 01:16:27.399 right down the line, they're not being completely honest. You 1457 01:16:27.399 --> 01:16:29.760 think they're you know, you think there's some motive behind it. 1458 01:16:29.800 --> 01:16:31.479 Well, we've got a couple of issues here on the 1459 01:16:31.479 --> 01:16:34.319 text line, and Porter will pick somebody to send a 1460 01:16:34.319 --> 01:16:35.680 Glendale for a little free golf. 1461 01:16:35.680 --> 01:16:37.880 That's our festival of tease. Now that's bring us here. 1462 01:16:37.920 --> 01:16:40.079 We'll hooking you up with some golf. Uh. 1463 01:16:40.159 --> 01:16:43.119 One texture said Porter is the best mid day sports 1464 01:16:43.199 --> 01:16:44.279 radio producer in Utah. 1465 01:16:44.399 --> 01:16:46.600 Let's be clear, this is afternoon drive. 1466 01:16:46.880 --> 01:16:49.319 I I did middays for quite some time, so maybe 1467 01:16:49.319 --> 01:16:50.600 it's still okay. 1468 01:16:50.640 --> 01:16:52.439 So you're you were the best in that space, but 1469 01:16:52.479 --> 01:16:54.319 now that you're in this space, you're no longer the best. 1470 01:16:54.399 --> 01:16:54.560 Is that? 1471 01:16:54.600 --> 01:16:56.720 What they're saying both, I think is what their health 1472 01:16:56.720 --> 01:16:59.880 can be true great knowledge of sports and likes's opinion. 1473 01:17:00.560 --> 01:17:01.720 That's a good one. Thank you. 1474 01:17:02.079 --> 01:17:04.399 The best thing about Porter is he gives us small 1475 01:17:04.439 --> 01:17:07.560 town boys a good name. There we go, the goat 1476 01:17:07.600 --> 01:17:12.640 producer of the drive true JP. Yeah, get him out 1477 01:17:12.640 --> 01:17:17.359 of here, Brady, Sorry, Brady? Wow, Okay, all right? Numbers numbers, Hey, 1478 01:17:17.359 --> 01:17:21.079 you're not wrong. The ratings are the ratings, Oh, Porter Larsen, 1479 01:17:21.159 --> 01:17:22.880 is it obnoxious like James Peterson? 1480 01:17:23.000 --> 01:17:23.199 Oh? 1481 01:17:24.880 --> 01:17:26.439 Wow? Was that James texting? 1482 01:17:26.840 --> 01:17:27.439 That was rude? 1483 01:17:28.079 --> 01:17:30.800 Porter always keeps the vibes up. That's not true. 1484 01:17:31.359 --> 01:17:33.359 I will say that one might not be. I don't 1485 01:17:33.399 --> 01:17:38.560 always keep the vibes up. Sometimes I'm counterproductive in that regard. 1486 01:17:40.079 --> 01:17:44.239 How would you describe your vibes as the kids would say? 1487 01:17:44.279 --> 01:17:46.439 You know, are the vibes high with you? Are you 1488 01:17:46.520 --> 01:17:49.880 a riz? God? Like Bill orm You got some riz? 1489 01:17:50.760 --> 01:17:55.359 It depends on the day. I think. My I'm not bipolar. 1490 01:17:55.760 --> 01:17:58.640 That would be a diagnosis you'd need. But the vibes are, 1491 01:18:00.279 --> 01:18:04.720 you know, up here, up there, down there. My grandmother 1492 01:18:05.560 --> 01:18:07.479 just a little really inside baseball here. 1493 01:18:07.520 --> 01:18:08.800 Snowboarder, is that your mom? 1494 01:18:08.840 --> 01:18:11.640 No, my mom was a snowboard My grandmother was the 1495 01:18:12.239 --> 01:18:15.720 one that had multiple personalities, but didn't tell her whole family. 1496 01:18:15.520 --> 01:18:18.039 Until she sounds like a hoot man, I want to 1497 01:18:18.079 --> 01:18:18.560 hang out with her. 1498 01:18:18.840 --> 01:18:20.800 Yeah, we didn't know about this until I found her 1499 01:18:20.840 --> 01:18:24.039 medical records after she died. I'm like, oh, there we go. 1500 01:18:24.399 --> 01:18:26.399 I'm not on that level. But my vibes are you know, 1501 01:18:26.439 --> 01:18:29.560 maybe here and here depends on the day. 1502 01:18:29.640 --> 01:18:32.000 Yeah, there's another My vibes depend on the day. I 1503 01:18:32.039 --> 01:18:34.399 try to bring good vibes to the drive. But sometimes 1504 01:18:34.439 --> 01:18:38.840 you land after a long forty eight hours in Vegas 1505 01:18:38.880 --> 01:18:41.279 from seventy degree weather and you have to dig your 1506 01:18:41.319 --> 01:18:43.199 car out in April, your vibes were really low that 1507 01:18:43.319 --> 01:18:46.000 My vibes were admittedly bad that day. So I'm trying 1508 01:18:46.039 --> 01:18:48.359 to bring good vibes. And then finally somebody text in 1509 01:18:49.680 --> 01:18:50.399 I love Porter. 1510 01:18:51.720 --> 01:18:52.159 There we go. 1511 01:18:52.319 --> 01:18:53.680 Do you know who that is? No? 1512 01:18:54.439 --> 01:18:55.479 Should I call their number? 1513 01:18:55.600 --> 01:18:58.359 Yes? You know what new segment idea on air? 1514 01:18:58.399 --> 01:19:01.079 You text in good things about Porter, then we call 1515 01:19:01.119 --> 01:19:03.680 you and bring you on air. Another one spilled in 1516 01:19:03.800 --> 01:19:07.600 Porter does good. Dog on at people like him? Porter 1517 01:19:07.720 --> 01:19:10.119 does good. That's somebody from South Summit because they said 1518 01:19:10.159 --> 01:19:15.680 dog on. I'm just messing around, So keep those texts 1519 01:19:15.680 --> 01:19:18.039 coming in, say nice things about our guy Porter and 1520 01:19:18.279 --> 01:19:20.600 we'll send you to play a little golf. All right, 1521 01:19:21.119 --> 01:19:24.279 two hours down, two hours to go. We will put 1522 01:19:24.319 --> 01:19:27.960 a little bit bow on the college basketball season. Oh 1523 01:19:28.319 --> 01:19:31.760 may have buried the lead. Sorry, got distracted. Jegor Demon 1524 01:19:31.880 --> 01:19:35.520 is leaving BYU for the NBA, and Mike Sharrav Jamps 1525 01:19:35.520 --> 01:19:38.640 has elected to enter the transfer portal from the University 1526 01:19:38.680 --> 01:19:40.720 of Utah. There's some other local stuff that we'll get 1527 01:19:40.760 --> 01:19:43.680 to maybe kick the tires with Ken palmeray about this 1528 01:19:43.720 --> 01:19:46.279 and then don't forget ourself, fans. We are two and 1529 01:19:46.319 --> 01:19:50.159 a half weeks away from the primary window transfer window closing. 1530 01:19:50.199 --> 01:19:53.359 In the world of Major League Soccer, our reinforcements on 1531 01:19:53.439 --> 01:19:53.760 the way. 1532 01:19:53.960 --> 01:19:55.119 Kurt Schmidt's gonna. 1533 01:19:54.920 --> 01:19:57.319 Stop by today. Been a couple of weeks since we've 1534 01:19:57.319 --> 01:20:01.319 caught up with Kurt Main. Roster construct for our local 1535 01:20:01.399 --> 01:20:03.159 soccer club RSL's taken. 1536 01:20:03.000 --> 01:20:04.439 On Nashville this weekends. 1537 01:20:05.119 --> 01:20:07.720 After getting all three points against the LA Galaxy at 1538 01:20:07.720 --> 01:20:10.640 the home behind the brace from Diego Luna. 1539 01:20:11.359 --> 01:20:12.000 Brace is a. 1540 01:20:11.960 --> 01:20:14.720 Soccer term for two goals scored in one game. I 1541 01:20:14.760 --> 01:20:16.880 just don't want to get you know, I don't want 1542 01:20:16.920 --> 01:20:19.199 to confuse our did you know that before I told 1543 01:20:19.199 --> 01:20:20.439 you that a brace was two goals. 1544 01:20:20.479 --> 01:20:23.760 I'm actually pretty good with the terms. Okay, you know, 1545 01:20:24.359 --> 01:20:29.720 ask me about some schemes and strategy getting a you know, 1546 01:20:30.079 --> 01:20:32.000 ahead of my skis on that one. But you give 1547 01:20:32.000 --> 01:20:33.880 me the soccer terms un locked in. 1548 01:20:33.880 --> 01:20:35.800 All right, brace two goals, diego. 1549 01:20:35.880 --> 01:20:39.720 Luna becomes the youngest RSL player to tally fifteen goals 1550 01:20:39.720 --> 01:20:42.239 and fifteen assists. The kid is really good. So we'll 1551 01:20:42.279 --> 01:20:45.600 bring in Kurt to talk a little RSL. But the 1552 01:20:45.680 --> 01:20:48.840 world of college basketball crown and national champ last night, 1553 01:20:49.439 --> 01:20:53.079 Lorda Gators their third title in the two thousands, which 1554 01:20:53.159 --> 01:20:57.000 puts them second behind the Yukon Huskies. Our next guest 1555 01:20:57.079 --> 01:21:01.039 is our college basketball north Star Life north Star for 1556 01:21:01.159 --> 01:21:04.760 honest Ken Pomeroy on a Tuesday Ken Palm dot com. 1557 01:21:04.760 --> 01:21:08.920 How are we doing, Buddy, doing great spence, Just kind 1558 01:21:08.960 --> 01:21:13.800 of reflecting on the season that was. In my position, 1559 01:21:13.840 --> 01:21:16.159 it always goes by pretty quickly. I know for other 1560 01:21:16.159 --> 01:21:18.000 people in the game they think it takes forever, but 1561 01:21:18.319 --> 01:21:19.399 for me, it just flies by. 1562 01:21:19.960 --> 01:21:23.239 So when we last spoke, you had escaped the chilly 1563 01:21:23.239 --> 01:21:25.399 cold weather of Salt Lake in exchange for I. 1564 01:21:25.359 --> 01:21:28.319 Believe Calgary is that where you were when we last spoke. 1565 01:21:29.319 --> 01:21:30.279 That's that's correct. 1566 01:21:30.439 --> 01:21:32.520 And where do we find you now? Ken? Where's your location? 1567 01:21:34.479 --> 01:21:35.359 Still in Calgary? 1568 01:21:35.479 --> 01:21:38.840 Still in Calgary? Who spends that much to do? You 1569 01:21:38.920 --> 01:21:40.119 want to tell us what you're doing? 1570 01:21:40.439 --> 01:21:46.239 Or no, it's not that exciting. I mean I can, 1571 01:21:47.840 --> 01:21:51.359 I can. I can work you through the back, working 1572 01:21:51.359 --> 01:21:52.720 through the thought process if you want. 1573 01:21:52.800 --> 01:21:53.720 Yes, I want all of it. 1574 01:21:53.800 --> 01:21:55.800 Ken, We've got four hours of radio to do, so 1575 01:21:55.840 --> 01:21:56.720 build the space, sir. 1576 01:22:00.680 --> 01:22:00.920 Well. 1577 01:22:01.720 --> 01:22:04.520 I So here's the deal. I'm as you know, I'm 1578 01:22:04.600 --> 01:22:07.279 kind of self employed, you know, work on my own, 1579 01:22:07.319 --> 01:22:10.239 can work remotely in cases where I'm not self employed, 1580 01:22:10.319 --> 01:22:14.880 and it's just really productive for me to like get 1581 01:22:14.920 --> 01:22:21.479 away from you know, distractions and stuff at home, and 1582 01:22:22.359 --> 01:22:24.279 you know, my life situation allows me to do that. 1583 01:22:24.439 --> 01:22:30.520 So so that's mostly the h that's mostly logic. 1584 01:22:30.640 --> 01:22:30.840 Yeh. 1585 01:22:31.119 --> 01:22:32.960 Look good for you. I'm not judging. I wish I 1586 01:22:33.000 --> 01:22:35.119 had that type of freedom. I'm very jealous of my 1587 01:22:35.199 --> 01:22:37.319 friends that are in the same position you are, where 1588 01:22:37.359 --> 01:22:39.319 they can be like I'm just going to Bali for 1589 01:22:39.399 --> 01:22:42.000 ten days because I can work from there. So hey, look, 1590 01:22:42.039 --> 01:22:45.399 Calgary's beautiful. I have a brother in law from Calgary. 1591 01:22:45.479 --> 01:22:47.359 He and my sister were married up there, So I'm 1592 01:22:47.359 --> 01:22:50.199 not judging. I just for me, Ken, if I had 1593 01:22:50.199 --> 01:22:53.359 the opportunity to get away, I think I would choose 1594 01:22:53.720 --> 01:22:54.159 a beach. 1595 01:22:54.520 --> 01:22:55.520 That's just that's just me. 1596 01:22:57.000 --> 01:23:01.079 Yeah, And I mean I'm not judge you either, Spens Like, 1597 01:23:01.840 --> 01:23:05.680 I get how people. I get why people would want 1598 01:23:05.720 --> 01:23:08.319 to go to a beach, and I can appreciate that. 1599 01:23:08.479 --> 01:23:11.199 But the beach is not my my life style. 1600 01:23:11.439 --> 01:23:14.560 So okay, there you go, Hey Tomato, Tomato, Ken, let's 1601 01:23:14.560 --> 01:23:18.560 move on. Are we judging the Houston Cougars for that collapse? 1602 01:23:18.680 --> 01:23:21.079 Let's start in a vacuum, then we'll pan back. And 1603 01:23:21.560 --> 01:23:24.680 I was actually thinking about you when Houston went up twelve, 1604 01:23:25.600 --> 01:23:28.039 because I believe, with your metrics, this is the best 1605 01:23:28.079 --> 01:23:31.399 defensive basketball team in college basketball. And not to be 1606 01:23:31.479 --> 01:23:34.960 redundant there, but I watched them snatch souls from Big 1607 01:23:35.000 --> 01:23:37.479 twelve teams this year, and when they went up twelve, Ken, 1608 01:23:37.560 --> 01:23:38.800 I thought, that's curtains. 1609 01:23:39.159 --> 01:23:40.159 So what do you make. 1610 01:23:40.840 --> 01:23:43.279 Let's start with the Houston side of how they collapse 1611 01:23:43.359 --> 01:23:44.000 down the stretch. 1612 01:23:46.079 --> 01:23:48.760 Yeah, I thought so too. I thought the walls were 1613 01:23:48.760 --> 01:23:51.800 closing in on Florida, and you know, Florida dies a 1614 01:23:51.800 --> 01:23:56.000 few bullets to get to the championship game, and then 1615 01:23:56.079 --> 01:23:57.840 I thought this was it for them, Like you say, 1616 01:23:57.920 --> 01:23:59.920 I seems like Houston was, you know, it was on 1617 01:24:00.079 --> 01:24:02.239 mission after closing out that dude game. The way they 1618 01:24:02.239 --> 01:24:06.600 did they're pretty much fire around also under especially defensively. 1619 01:24:06.640 --> 01:24:10.239 The way they kind of figured out how to you know, 1620 01:24:10.880 --> 01:24:12.920 essentially take Walter Clayton out of the game. 1621 01:24:12.960 --> 01:24:13.359 I mean. 1622 01:24:15.039 --> 01:24:17.079 That was that was the one thing that you didn't 1623 01:24:17.119 --> 01:24:19.800 really think was possible, and they had done it up 1624 01:24:19.800 --> 01:24:21.960 at that point. So at that point, yeah, I thought 1625 01:24:22.119 --> 01:24:24.159 that the game was over. And there were a couple 1626 01:24:24.199 --> 01:24:26.359 of things that went against One was that both they're 1627 01:24:26.399 --> 01:24:28.560 big man ended up getting four fouls, you know, shortly 1628 01:24:28.600 --> 01:24:31.239 after taking that lead, and so they had to play 1629 01:24:31.239 --> 01:24:34.520 small for a little bit, and some of that you know, 1630 01:24:34.720 --> 01:24:37.720 length that has propelled them to having the number one 1631 01:24:37.760 --> 01:24:40.439 rated defense was on the bench, and in Florida was 1632 01:24:40.439 --> 01:24:43.520 able to get me a little bit of flow offensively. 1633 01:24:44.760 --> 01:24:46.039 That was the main thing. But the other thing was, 1634 01:24:46.039 --> 01:24:49.600 like houston offense was pretty brutal all night. I mean, 1635 01:24:49.640 --> 01:24:52.319 you got to give obviously credit to Florida's defense, but really, 1636 01:24:53.680 --> 01:24:56.359 you know, you go back to even the Duke game, 1637 01:24:57.159 --> 01:24:59.840 and Houston's offense was not great. Now, they did make threes, 1638 01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:03.199 and that kind of, you know, covered up what was 1639 01:25:03.239 --> 01:25:05.079 an awful two point shooting night for them against du 1640 01:25:05.119 --> 01:25:07.079 They only made thirty three percent of their twos against Duke. 1641 01:25:08.239 --> 01:25:12.000 They only made forty one percent against Florida, and it's 1642 01:25:12.039 --> 01:25:15.079 just hard to overcome that. And that's been the that 1643 01:25:15.159 --> 01:25:18.399 was the story for Houston all season long. You can 1644 01:25:18.399 --> 01:25:21.640 look at their profile, almost everything is good or accessible 1645 01:25:21.720 --> 01:25:24.760 except the two point shooting, which was just absolutely dreadful. 1646 01:25:24.760 --> 01:25:26.640 And it was, you know, kind of a minor miracle 1647 01:25:26.640 --> 01:25:27.800 they were able to go as far as they did. 1648 01:25:27.840 --> 01:25:32.159 They ultimately finished the season ranked two ninety six and 1649 01:25:32.239 --> 01:25:35.640 two point percent, so in some ways, an incredible coaching 1650 01:25:35.680 --> 01:25:37.600 job in Helvin Sampson to get to the last game 1651 01:25:37.600 --> 01:25:38.920 of the season with that kind of number. 1652 01:25:39.720 --> 01:25:43.479 So a lot of attention today on poor Emmanuel Sharp, 1653 01:25:43.680 --> 01:25:46.880 who is a really really good player and as a junior, 1654 01:25:47.880 --> 01:25:50.840 and we'll get to what Houston has coming back next year. 1655 01:25:50.880 --> 01:25:52.479 I want to talk some big twelve in a moment. 1656 01:25:52.720 --> 01:25:54.840 I mean, the way too early top twenty five stuff 1657 01:25:54.840 --> 01:25:58.479 that Borsello wrote for ESPN dot Com today. Yes, Houston 1658 01:25:58.560 --> 01:26:01.199 is won as a result to who they could potentially 1659 01:26:01.239 --> 01:26:03.720 return and then a grip of transfers. 1660 01:26:03.960 --> 01:26:05.079 So we'll get to that in a moment. 1661 01:26:05.399 --> 01:26:09.560 And look, my sincere hope for Emmanuel Sharp is that 1662 01:26:09.600 --> 01:26:12.159 he comes back as a senior and as an opportunity 1663 01:26:12.960 --> 01:26:16.840 to kind of redeem himself because they're not there without him. 1664 01:26:17.000 --> 01:26:20.760 He was the main point of attack defenseman on Walter 1665 01:26:20.880 --> 01:26:23.079 Clayton Junior. He was the guy that was tasked with 1666 01:26:23.119 --> 01:26:26.000 guarding potentially the best league guard in the tournament and 1667 01:26:26.000 --> 01:26:29.479 the final foremost outstanding player, and Clayton Junior did not 1668 01:26:29.560 --> 01:26:32.520 get his first point until about fourteen thirty seven left 1669 01:26:32.960 --> 01:26:35.560 in the game and didn't hit his first three until 1670 01:26:35.600 --> 01:26:37.840 there was three minutes left. I mean, I thought Sharp 1671 01:26:37.880 --> 01:26:40.359 did a really good job on him, and he had 1672 01:26:40.399 --> 01:26:43.560 a good, solid tournament, but down the stretch, back to 1673 01:26:43.600 --> 01:26:46.880 back turnovers, and I don't know what exactly the deal 1674 01:26:47.000 --> 01:26:49.119 was when I went back and watched the replay Canada, 1675 01:26:49.159 --> 01:26:52.640 the final play where Sharp rose up and then it 1676 01:26:52.680 --> 01:26:55.479 was a really good contest by Walter Clayton Junior that 1677 01:26:55.560 --> 01:26:57.439 caused him to simply have to drop the ball or 1678 01:26:57.479 --> 01:26:59.640 else it would have been a travel when you watch 1679 01:26:59.680 --> 01:27:02.199 the action on the strong side, it was a misdirect 1680 01:27:02.199 --> 01:27:03.479 and a ball screen for LJ. 1681 01:27:03.640 --> 01:27:04.000 Cryer. 1682 01:27:04.079 --> 01:27:07.039 But Emanuel Sharpe just either ran out of time or 1683 01:27:07.119 --> 01:27:09.920 wasn't patient enough. And I'm not saying it's all on him, 1684 01:27:10.439 --> 01:27:13.800 but what do you make of four straight possessions to 1685 01:27:13.840 --> 01:27:16.840 finish the game for Houston where they didn't even get 1686 01:27:16.880 --> 01:27:19.039 a shot, Like, that's wild to me. 1687 01:27:21.520 --> 01:27:27.159 Yeah, that is unbelievable. Yeah, for a team that you know, generally, 1688 01:27:27.239 --> 01:27:29.680 like the one thing you could say about Houston was that, 1689 01:27:30.359 --> 01:27:33.720 you know, they they wouldn't panic. You know, they they're 1690 01:27:33.760 --> 01:27:37.760 a very experienced team and they're going to at least 1691 01:27:38.039 --> 01:27:43.399 execute properly. They have their limitations offensively, and we you know, 1692 01:27:43.439 --> 01:27:48.119 alluded to that, but certainly, Yeah, you watch that final play. 1693 01:27:48.119 --> 01:27:50.159 I mean it's a little it's a little reminiscent of 1694 01:27:52.039 --> 01:27:54.319 like the I mean, this is for the real olds 1695 01:27:54.319 --> 01:27:56.600 out there, but you know, the eighty three title game. 1696 01:27:56.640 --> 01:27:58.720 There are people making all these comparisons to that game, 1697 01:27:58.760 --> 01:28:02.960 and final possession in that game was similar in the 1698 01:28:02.960 --> 01:28:06.840 sense that it was like just terribly executed. Ultimately it 1699 01:28:06.880 --> 01:28:10.720 turned out to work in that situation, But yeah, you 1700 01:28:10.840 --> 01:28:13.840 rewatched that last possession for Houston, and it's like people 1701 01:28:13.840 --> 01:28:16.920 are sort of like trying to set screens but not 1702 01:28:17.279 --> 01:28:20.199 really committed to it, and so obviously nobody's getting open. 1703 01:28:20.239 --> 01:28:22.760 And then yeah, Manuel Stricks just kind of left with 1704 01:28:23.640 --> 01:28:27.439 a choice there, and in the moments he made it. 1705 01:28:27.479 --> 01:28:28.920 Really that choice. To me, I think you had the 1706 01:28:29.439 --> 01:28:31.159 you know, in the moment, you just have to like 1707 01:28:31.319 --> 01:28:34.439 let that thing fly, throw your leg out, do something, 1708 01:28:34.520 --> 01:28:37.439 draw some contact. Of course the official to make a call. 1709 01:28:38.359 --> 01:28:41.920 But yeah, overall, the execution down the stretch by Houston 1710 01:28:42.159 --> 01:28:43.119 was pretty dreadful. 1711 01:28:43.680 --> 01:28:47.439 Now to your earlier point, you know, you can't talk 1712 01:28:47.479 --> 01:28:50.720 about these things without acknowledging both sides of the coin. 1713 01:28:51.319 --> 01:28:54.239 What did flor to do can to turn it on 1714 01:28:54.520 --> 01:28:58.279 in the second half defensively after going down by twelve, 1715 01:28:58.359 --> 01:29:00.760 because even going into locker room, I just had this 1716 01:29:00.840 --> 01:29:02.960 sense like Houston's a better team, this is that this 1717 01:29:03.000 --> 01:29:06.760 is their time. Were there specific adjustments that Todd Golden 1718 01:29:06.800 --> 01:29:09.119 made in the locker room at halftime or in the 1719 01:29:09.159 --> 01:29:11.520 second half that caused so much chaos for Houston. 1720 01:29:13.119 --> 01:29:16.600 Yeah, I don't know they were necessarily specific adjustment. I 1721 01:29:16.640 --> 01:29:20.960 mean the first half they actually were fine. Defensively, like 1722 01:29:21.079 --> 01:29:25.520 they you know, Houston wasn't scoring at will on them, 1723 01:29:26.079 --> 01:29:28.279 they were getting a few offensive rebounds. And I think 1724 01:29:28.319 --> 01:29:32.560 that's where Florida cleaned some things up in the second half, 1725 01:29:33.520 --> 01:29:38.279 really preventing more offensive rebounds and also taking care of 1726 01:29:38.319 --> 01:29:41.600 the ball offensively to prevent Houston from you know, operating 1727 01:29:41.640 --> 01:29:45.439 against you know, not a set defense when they did 1728 01:29:45.479 --> 01:29:47.960 get the ball. But I think that's the one thing 1729 01:29:48.039 --> 01:29:51.560 that you know, I was really kind of impressed with 1730 01:29:51.560 --> 01:29:53.600 with Florida. In the end. You look at the box 1731 01:29:53.640 --> 01:29:55.239 score and I think you will see Houston had fifteen 1732 01:29:55.279 --> 01:29:57.880 offensive rebounds and they're like, wow, that's you know, that's 1733 01:29:57.880 --> 01:29:59.479 a great game for Houston. But actually there were so 1734 01:29:59.479 --> 01:30:02.840 many misheh that in the end it was a Poppins. 1735 01:30:02.840 --> 01:30:05.640 The rebounding crecenter thirty two percent, which is below Houston 1736 01:30:05.680 --> 01:30:09.159 season average. So so you know, preventing those second chance 1737 01:30:09.199 --> 01:30:15.199 points certainly helped. Houston had a you know, miserable day shooting, 1738 01:30:15.239 --> 01:30:17.920 and you could put together I mean, I hate to 1739 01:30:17.960 --> 01:30:20.000 say it, but you know, just among us a private 1740 01:30:20.039 --> 01:30:21.840 company here, I mean Milo's us, and you could put 1741 01:30:21.880 --> 01:30:25.079 together a highlight reel for him in that game of 1742 01:30:25.199 --> 01:30:28.279 just some incredibly missed shots. I mean just missing everything 1743 01:30:28.359 --> 01:30:31.640 multiple times. You know, that was an issue as well. 1744 01:30:31.680 --> 01:30:34.560 And I don't like Florida, you know, maybe sped up 1745 01:30:34.600 --> 01:30:36.800 Houston a little bit, but man, a lot of it 1746 01:30:36.840 --> 01:30:40.560 is just like Houston, you know, not coming to play 1747 01:30:40.600 --> 01:30:42.920 when it came to the three point shot. And you know, 1748 01:30:43.000 --> 01:30:45.600 as we mentioned, they they're really deficient on two pointers. 1749 01:30:45.600 --> 01:30:47.359 And where they've been able to overcome that is by 1750 01:30:47.439 --> 01:30:51.279 having guys like Sharp and LJ. Cryer and using him, 1751 01:30:51.600 --> 01:30:53.800 you know, make some threes. And that just didn't happen 1752 01:30:53.840 --> 01:30:54.239 last night. 1753 01:30:54.840 --> 01:30:57.000 Todd Golden, at the age of thirty nine, becomes the 1754 01:30:57.039 --> 01:31:00.000 youngest head coach to win a national championship since Jim 1755 01:31:00.119 --> 01:31:02.880 Valvano in eighty three when he was thirty seven years old. 1756 01:31:03.520 --> 01:31:05.399 And if you didn't know any better and you were 1757 01:31:05.439 --> 01:31:07.960 watching the postgame celebration, you would have said, why are 1758 01:31:08.000 --> 01:31:10.560 they interviewing the team manager? I mean, he looks like 1759 01:31:10.600 --> 01:31:12.920 a kid, and he's got his hat on backwards and 1760 01:31:12.960 --> 01:31:15.800 he's enjoying the moment. How has he been able to 1761 01:31:15.840 --> 01:31:17.760 do this after a brief stop I think it was 1762 01:31:17.760 --> 01:31:20.720 San Francisco and just in a few short years, how 1763 01:31:20.760 --> 01:31:24.000 have they been able to build Florida into a national champ. 1764 01:31:26.039 --> 01:31:28.680 Well, it's they've just done a brilliant job of creating 1765 01:31:28.680 --> 01:31:30.720 a roster. You know, they've been able to get some 1766 01:31:32.279 --> 01:31:35.000 useful transfers, and you know, he ended up building a 1767 01:31:35.119 --> 01:31:38.760 team like we saw but Houston, like we saw with Auburn, 1768 01:31:38.960 --> 01:31:43.439 that's a very experienced team and you know it had 1769 01:31:43.640 --> 01:31:48.199 like championship experience some extent. You know, Elijah Martin really 1770 01:31:48.199 --> 01:31:51.079 playing a key role for this team coming over from 1771 01:31:51.079 --> 01:31:55.319 Florida Atlantic. In addition, you know, they had you know, 1772 01:31:55.399 --> 01:31:59.479 more front court depth probably than you know, any Power 1773 01:31:59.479 --> 01:32:01.840 Conference team, and they just hit on these guys like 1774 01:32:02.199 --> 01:32:05.439 you know, some of these guys I think people became 1775 01:32:05.439 --> 01:32:07.279 familiar with in the tournament. You know Thomas Howe, for 1776 01:32:07.399 --> 01:32:08.840 for one, I mean he comes off the bench for 1777 01:32:08.880 --> 01:32:12.399 this team, and you know he'd be starting for probably 1778 01:32:12.560 --> 01:32:15.720 most SEC teams, but for this team, he comes off 1779 01:32:15.720 --> 01:32:18.479 the bench. And that's just a you know, a statement 1780 01:32:18.520 --> 01:32:20.520 on how much depth this team has upfront and how 1781 01:32:20.520 --> 01:32:23.000 they were you know, able to kind of exploit that 1782 01:32:23.039 --> 01:32:25.960 against Houston, and Houston you know, got into foul trouble 1783 01:32:26.000 --> 01:32:28.119 up front. They didn't have guys they could go to 1784 01:32:28.199 --> 01:32:29.760 and they had to go ahead and play small. Florida 1785 01:32:29.760 --> 01:32:31.760 really didn't have to do that over the course of 1786 01:32:31.800 --> 01:32:33.680 the season. So it was really a you know, a 1787 01:32:33.720 --> 01:32:38.840 great job in building a roster and just a phenomenal run. 1788 01:32:40.800 --> 01:32:42.640 You know, I don't know, I don't know what else 1789 01:32:42.640 --> 01:32:45.199 to say about it. It was you have to be impressed. 1790 01:32:45.199 --> 01:32:47.279 I mean, I remember when Golden took the Florida job, 1791 01:32:47.319 --> 01:32:50.680 and I mean I had heard through you know, secondhand 1792 01:32:50.720 --> 01:32:53.920 channels that he wasn't even like, yeah, he was a 1793 01:32:53.920 --> 01:32:55.880 little hasn't it taken? He wasn't sure like if that 1794 01:32:56.000 --> 01:32:59.840 was the jump that he wanted to make. And I 1795 01:33:00.119 --> 01:33:02.920 obviously I think he made the right decision. He worred 1796 01:33:02.920 --> 01:33:05.279 through the math and realized, yeah, you can actually have 1797 01:33:05.319 --> 01:33:08.560 a lot of stress Florida. You proved it pretty quickly here. 1798 01:33:09.600 --> 01:33:12.119 I know you're not a scout, but you are a 1799 01:33:12.199 --> 01:33:16.000 basketball guy that watches these games all year long, and 1800 01:33:16.279 --> 01:33:19.199 it's you know, it's so interesting, Ken, because watching this 1801 01:33:19.279 --> 01:33:23.199 tournament really my whole life. There are so many great 1802 01:33:23.439 --> 01:33:29.640 individual tournament performances or even seasons by guards and players 1803 01:33:29.720 --> 01:33:33.920 that turn out to just be excellent college players, and 1804 01:33:33.960 --> 01:33:36.039 they just don't have the size or the speed or 1805 01:33:36.039 --> 01:33:37.520 the strength to get it done in the pros. 1806 01:33:37.560 --> 01:33:39.119 And we have local examples of that. 1807 01:33:39.199 --> 01:33:42.279 The number one example might be Jimmer, who was an 1808 01:33:42.319 --> 01:33:45.560 incredible college player and that ride was so fun. I 1809 01:33:45.560 --> 01:33:48.319 don't care if you don't like byu. Jim Ermania was 1810 01:33:48.359 --> 01:33:50.880 a real thing. That was really cool, and he was 1811 01:33:50.880 --> 01:33:53.640 incredible to watch in college. And I could name a 1812 01:33:53.760 --> 01:33:55.960 grip of play Randolph Childress. We could go on and 1813 01:33:56.000 --> 01:33:58.279 on and on. And I don't know where I'm at 1814 01:33:58.279 --> 01:33:59.479 with Walter Clayton. 1815 01:33:59.199 --> 01:33:59.880 Junior as a pro. 1816 01:34:00.760 --> 01:34:04.640 But after watching just the Stones to take and make 1817 01:34:04.720 --> 01:34:08.159 big shots I was reading today, I think it was 1818 01:34:08.199 --> 01:34:11.119 Givoni that compared them to Ben Gordon, who turned out 1819 01:34:11.119 --> 01:34:13.359 to be a combo scoring guard in the pros with 1820 01:34:13.439 --> 01:34:15.600 a long career including a sixth Man of the Year 1821 01:34:15.640 --> 01:34:19.000 after a really really good career at Yukon. But what 1822 01:34:19.079 --> 01:34:22.680 do you think Walter Clayton Junior did for his pro prospects? 1823 01:34:22.680 --> 01:34:24.880 And do you think he's a long term NBA guy? 1824 01:34:27.079 --> 01:34:29.520 Yeah, that's a great question. I a lot of what 1825 01:34:29.600 --> 01:34:34.920 you are saying, I would echo like, I'm not totally 1826 01:34:34.960 --> 01:34:40.119 sure either. He's obviously a very good college player. He 1827 01:34:40.199 --> 01:34:44.840 has some some vertical athleticism, you know, the tricky He's 1828 01:34:44.880 --> 01:34:48.800 a little on the older side, so you know, kind 1829 01:34:48.800 --> 01:34:52.680 of the challenge I think a modern day you know, 1830 01:34:52.760 --> 01:34:56.199 evaluation of these players in the draft is that so 1831 01:34:56.279 --> 01:34:59.439 many of them are, you know, a little bit older 1832 01:34:59.439 --> 01:35:01.800 than they than they were five to ten years ago. 1833 01:35:03.000 --> 01:35:03.600 So I don't know. 1834 01:35:03.680 --> 01:35:09.000 I mean, I think I'm probably a little more negative 1835 01:35:09.039 --> 01:35:13.720 on him than maybe the consensuses. I think there's certainly 1836 01:35:13.720 --> 01:35:18.920 the opportunity though, like clearly, you know, you couldn't help it, 1837 01:35:19.079 --> 01:35:20.760 but watch him through this tournament and it's not like 1838 01:35:20.800 --> 01:35:23.000 Florida had an easy path, Like they had a very 1839 01:35:23.000 --> 01:35:26.560 difficult path, and they were constantly in these very challenging games, 1840 01:35:26.560 --> 01:35:29.680 and he would make play after play. You know, he's 1841 01:35:30.119 --> 01:35:32.399 a very good shooter. There's some questions I think on 1842 01:35:32.439 --> 01:35:35.279 the on the defensive end that you know, if he 1843 01:35:35.319 --> 01:35:38.239 could answer those, that would really enhance the stock. But 1844 01:35:39.039 --> 01:35:41.520 you know, teams are going to obviously be focusing on 1845 01:35:41.520 --> 01:35:43.199 that and put them through the ringer on that over 1846 01:35:43.399 --> 01:35:44.239 the coming weeks. 1847 01:35:44.560 --> 01:35:48.359 Before we get to some local storylines, let's remove ourselves 1848 01:35:48.359 --> 01:35:52.119 from the vacuum of the National Championship Game and pan 1849 01:35:52.279 --> 01:35:54.439 back a little bit because I have not been able 1850 01:35:54.479 --> 01:35:58.760 to talk to you since we saw. Like if Houston's 1851 01:35:58.760 --> 01:36:02.760 collapse was a eight out of ten, Duke's collapse was 1852 01:36:02.800 --> 01:36:06.159 a ten out of ten against the Houston Cougars and 1853 01:36:06.239 --> 01:36:08.800 Sion James is a really good player, and I'm not 1854 01:36:08.880 --> 01:36:11.000 piling on any of these young men. I think if 1855 01:36:11.039 --> 01:36:14.359 you're John Shier, you have to realize that your guy 1856 01:36:14.439 --> 01:36:16.840 is peeing down his leg every time he's trying to 1857 01:36:16.880 --> 01:36:20.520 inbound the ball on the baseline and figure something else out. 1858 01:36:20.720 --> 01:36:23.199 I mean, you know, nine to ozhero run over the 1859 01:36:23.239 --> 01:36:26.359 course of what the final forty seconds. I've heard a 1860 01:36:26.359 --> 01:36:28.680 lot of people pile on Cooper, which I think is unfair. 1861 01:36:28.720 --> 01:36:31.359 I thought that over the back call was atrocious. He 1862 01:36:31.479 --> 01:36:34.119 hit their only bucket of the final I think nine minutes. 1863 01:36:34.119 --> 01:36:36.199 It's wild that they went nine minutes without a bucket. 1864 01:36:36.920 --> 01:36:39.560 Proctor couldn't get it going. I like the Konk Nipple kid. 1865 01:36:39.600 --> 01:36:41.600 I wondered if they should have kind of allowed him 1866 01:36:41.600 --> 01:36:46.239 to inbound the basketball, but their inability to simply handle 1867 01:36:46.359 --> 01:36:49.720 pressure to the point of just getting the ball in bounds, 1868 01:36:49.840 --> 01:36:53.079 just like Houston and Emmanuel Sharp will remember the loss 1869 01:36:53.079 --> 01:36:56.199 from last night Sion James and the Duke Blue Devils 1870 01:36:56.279 --> 01:36:58.600 are gonna wear that one for a long long time. 1871 01:36:58.680 --> 01:37:01.239 That felt like it's stung. Did you digest that one? 1872 01:37:03.359 --> 01:37:03.560 Oh? 1873 01:37:03.640 --> 01:37:04.119 No question? 1874 01:37:04.199 --> 01:37:05.960 I mean yeah. 1875 01:37:06.000 --> 01:37:09.680 I mean this Duke team was kind of poised to, uh, 1876 01:37:10.239 --> 01:37:13.159 you know, etch themselves among some of the great teams 1877 01:37:13.159 --> 01:37:16.279 in college basketball history. And in order to complete that, 1878 01:37:16.319 --> 01:37:17.720 you have to, you know, you have to win it all. 1879 01:37:18.239 --> 01:37:21.880 And they were trying to do that. I mean, yeah, 1880 01:37:21.960 --> 01:37:24.079 to blow you know, blow the kind of lead they 1881 01:37:24.079 --> 01:37:27.399 had against a team that you know, almost that Houston's 1882 01:37:27.479 --> 01:37:30.560 offensively challenge. Obviously they can make some threeson that was 1883 01:37:31.399 --> 01:37:34.479 partly what they did. They come from behind, but you know, 1884 01:37:35.720 --> 01:37:37.680 it really seemed to me like Duke was there came 1885 01:37:37.720 --> 01:37:39.359 a point there, I don't know, eight nine minutes ago 1886 01:37:39.399 --> 01:37:43.640 where Duke got kind of tentative. You know, like if 1887 01:37:43.680 --> 01:37:46.319 you watched like the Alabama BYU game, Like when Alabama 1888 01:37:46.359 --> 01:37:48.199 got ahead, they just kept playing, right, they just kept 1889 01:37:48.279 --> 01:37:51.760 chucking up threes, and Duke, when they got ahead, really 1890 01:37:51.800 --> 01:37:54.399 got tentative. They started passing on open threes. You know, 1891 01:37:54.960 --> 01:37:59.239 Flag did that at least once, and you know Cnipple 1892 01:37:59.279 --> 01:38:01.479 did it once, and I think Proctor did it once 1893 01:38:01.520 --> 01:38:05.439 and you go back and watch those possessions and you know, 1894 01:38:05.479 --> 01:38:07.479 they look they look kind of nice. On one hand, 1895 01:38:07.560 --> 01:38:09.159 like all these guys are being so unselfish, you know, 1896 01:38:09.159 --> 01:38:11.359 they're making the extra pass, but then they keep making 1897 01:38:11.399 --> 01:38:13.600 the extra pass, and then Cooper Flag would get it 1898 01:38:13.680 --> 01:38:15.840 and have to like, you know, throw up a turnaround 1899 01:38:15.920 --> 01:38:18.800 you know, shot from the elbow, which like if anybody 1900 01:38:18.880 --> 01:38:21.159 can make it, he can, but those are difficult shots 1901 01:38:21.159 --> 01:38:24.000 and they weren't falling, and to me, that's where the 1902 01:38:24.039 --> 01:38:26.960 avalanche kind of started. Obviously, not being able to get 1903 01:38:27.000 --> 01:38:29.920 the ball in bounds is an issue, and I don't 1904 01:38:29.920 --> 01:38:31.920 know what I don't know what John Shire is feeling. 1905 01:38:31.920 --> 01:38:34.279 You know, remember that like football player, but he was 1906 01:38:34.359 --> 01:38:36.319 running it seemed like you know last year or two 1907 01:38:36.800 --> 01:38:38.479 where everybody would line up on the base line and 1908 01:38:39.560 --> 01:38:41.439 you know, run down the court and then cut back 1909 01:38:41.560 --> 01:38:45.479 like Duke was trying to, like, you know, have everybody 1910 01:38:45.479 --> 01:38:49.920 come to the base line. And Houston was pretty easily 1911 01:38:49.960 --> 01:38:53.760 able to defend that. So that was the issue. And 1912 01:38:53.760 --> 01:38:55.720 then you also bring up the Cooper Flag bow, which 1913 01:38:55.880 --> 01:38:58.760 you know, we shouldn't we shouldn't forget people just kind 1914 01:38:58.760 --> 01:39:01.640 of like dismissed that. But that game was so physical 1915 01:39:01.680 --> 01:39:03.399 over the last two minutes and they kind of call 1916 01:39:03.439 --> 01:39:05.039 that foul on Cooper flag And if you actually go 1917 01:39:05.119 --> 01:39:07.560 back and watch the replay of that, Juwan Roberts is 1918 01:39:07.560 --> 01:39:09.439 the one boxing him out when the whistle blows, Like 1919 01:39:09.720 --> 01:39:12.000 Juwan roberts instinct is that he thinks the fouls on him. 1920 01:39:12.880 --> 01:39:15.119 He's like, he's kind of like throwing up his arms, like, 1921 01:39:15.119 --> 01:39:16.880 why are you showing the whistle And yeah, it's actually 1922 01:39:16.880 --> 01:39:19.239 on Cooper flag. And so you know, if they don't 1923 01:39:19.239 --> 01:39:22.000 call that ballet, Houston still probably has the ball and 1924 01:39:22.000 --> 01:39:25.279 has a chance to win. But that obviously made things 1925 01:39:25.279 --> 01:39:27.199 a little bit easier for for Houston to. 1926 01:39:27.119 --> 01:39:27.600 Pull it out. 1927 01:39:27.680 --> 01:39:31.000 So yeah, that was, you know, a wild game, and 1928 01:39:31.039 --> 01:39:33.279 I think, yeah, one that's gonna it's gonna hurt for 1929 01:39:33.319 --> 01:39:34.479 a long time to do Seaons. 1930 01:39:34.800 --> 01:39:38.880 The Auburn loss to Florida wasn't as epic of a collapse, 1931 01:39:39.039 --> 01:39:42.880 but it kind of felt like in a way, Auburn 1932 01:39:43.000 --> 01:39:45.680 also allowed Florida to steal that one from them. Like 1933 01:39:45.960 --> 01:39:48.760 my takeaways from these games in the Final four is 1934 01:39:48.880 --> 01:39:51.840 credit the team certainly that stayed in the fight and 1935 01:39:51.920 --> 01:39:54.199 found a way to win, but every team that won 1936 01:39:54.399 --> 01:39:56.039 seemed to get a little bit of a gift from 1937 01:39:56.039 --> 01:39:59.640 their opponent. They went away from Johnny Broom, who had 1938 01:39:59.680 --> 01:40:02.560 third team points with sixteen minutes left and had I 1939 01:40:02.560 --> 01:40:05.159 think two points the rest of the way, and it 1940 01:40:05.199 --> 01:40:08.840 felt like he was their one clear advantage, not just 1941 01:40:08.880 --> 01:40:11.600 getting buckets but also creating space for his teammates. 1942 01:40:12.039 --> 01:40:15.600 And Florida again comes back, they were down. 1943 01:40:15.399 --> 01:40:17.600 And they outscore Auburn forty one to twenty seven in 1944 01:40:17.640 --> 01:40:18.920 the second half. What do you make of the way 1945 01:40:18.920 --> 01:40:20.119 the Auburn Tigers went out? 1946 01:40:22.239 --> 01:40:25.800 Yeah, I just thought Broom was He was so banged 1947 01:40:25.880 --> 01:40:29.439 up heading into that game, and I don't think people 1948 01:40:29.479 --> 01:40:34.640 really realized how bad the elbow was. He was able 1949 01:40:34.680 --> 01:40:38.640 to work through it and you know, be reasonably productive, 1950 01:40:38.680 --> 01:40:42.960 but I mean, overall, one of his least productive games 1951 01:40:42.960 --> 01:40:49.159 this season. And you know, ultimately, like Auburn's constructed a 1952 01:40:49.239 --> 01:40:53.680 little bit different than Florida or Florida's you know, they 1953 01:40:53.760 --> 01:40:55.439 got Walter Clayton, but they got a lot of other 1954 01:40:55.560 --> 01:41:00.840 like guys that can contribute, you know, and high volume 1955 01:41:00.880 --> 01:41:03.840 if they need it. Auburn really doesn't have that, Like 1956 01:41:03.920 --> 01:41:06.680 they they play through Jannibery where the night room is 1957 01:41:06.720 --> 01:41:11.359 not productive, they don't have anybody else that they can 1958 01:41:11.439 --> 01:41:13.399 rely on to pick up the slack, any kind of 1959 01:41:13.399 --> 01:41:17.239 all hands on deck to do that. And you know 1960 01:41:17.680 --> 01:41:21.399 guys like Denver Jones and Chad Baker, Baker Mazzara tried 1961 01:41:21.399 --> 01:41:24.840 to do that in that game, but you know, ultimately 1962 01:41:24.920 --> 01:41:28.159 just wasn't quite enough. And really, like that's the thing 1963 01:41:28.159 --> 01:41:30.039 when you look back to on this Florida run, like 1964 01:41:30.399 --> 01:41:34.119 you know, people are gonna maybe forget about the fact 1965 01:41:34.199 --> 01:41:38.560 that you know, multiple games here Florida was was trailing 1966 01:41:38.800 --> 01:41:41.960 really on the wrong side look like the win probability draft. 1967 01:41:42.000 --> 01:41:44.119 They were times where they were significantly on the wrong 1968 01:41:44.159 --> 01:41:46.760 side of fifty percent in their last three games, and 1969 01:41:46.760 --> 01:41:48.239 they were able to you know, pull each of them. 1970 01:41:48.119 --> 01:41:49.720 Out, all right. 1971 01:41:49.760 --> 01:41:52.720 A couple of local storylines can and shout out to 1972 01:41:52.760 --> 01:41:56.800 the Northeast Conference, shout out to the Central Connecticut Blue Devils. 1973 01:41:57.560 --> 01:41:59.960 But my question is about a player who's now trans 1974 01:42:00.199 --> 01:42:02.720 to play at the University of Utah from Fairleigh Dickinson 1975 01:42:02.880 --> 01:42:07.399 FDU and it is the first transfer portal addition from 1976 01:42:07.439 --> 01:42:09.840 the outside count of DAWs back to play for aj 1977 01:42:10.000 --> 01:42:12.399 next year. But Terrence Brown one of the top ten 1978 01:42:12.479 --> 01:42:16.000 scores in college basketball twenty one points per game and 1979 01:42:16.439 --> 01:42:18.520 was a leading scorer for FDU and I believe the 1980 01:42:18.600 --> 01:42:23.199 leading scorer in that conference. And according to on three 1981 01:42:23.479 --> 01:42:26.239 on three Sports, he is a four star transfer with 1982 01:42:26.279 --> 01:42:29.920 a composite rating of ninety three point two out of 1983 01:42:29.960 --> 01:42:31.560 one hundred. I'm not going to tell you I was 1984 01:42:31.600 --> 01:42:36.000 grinding on FDU tape this year, but your college basketball savants, 1985 01:42:36.079 --> 01:42:38.439 any insight on this young man who's now going to 1986 01:42:38.479 --> 01:42:40.399 be in Salt Lake City playing for Alex Jensen or 1987 01:42:40.439 --> 01:42:42.439 Raphael Chillis Chileus next year. 1988 01:42:44.399 --> 01:42:47.119 Well, I'll confess I haven't broken down tape on him. 1989 01:42:48.640 --> 01:42:51.800 I will tell you, like somebody making that big of 1990 01:42:51.840 --> 01:42:55.640 a jump, like some of the scoring will transfer. But 1991 01:42:56.159 --> 01:42:57.960 you know, you see this a lot of times at 1992 01:42:57.960 --> 01:43:00.880 that level where you know, the pro gets a guy 1993 01:43:00.920 --> 01:43:04.560 who's just like, you know, a someone to say, like 1994 01:43:05.840 --> 01:43:07.720 you know, fairly take it was probably low major, right, 1995 01:43:07.800 --> 01:43:10.319 like they're below mid major. So you get a guy 1996 01:43:10.359 --> 01:43:13.520 who maybe you know was a mid major type player 1997 01:43:14.000 --> 01:43:16.600 at your school and he just kind of dominates the ball. 1998 01:43:16.920 --> 01:43:20.479 And so that's the story with Terrence Brown. Like he 1999 01:43:20.840 --> 01:43:23.840 you know, obviously a big time scorer, but also just 2000 01:43:24.000 --> 01:43:26.399 dominated possessions for them, you know, at the ball all 2001 01:43:26.439 --> 01:43:29.319 the time. And I assume his role will change a 2002 01:43:29.319 --> 01:43:31.600 little bit at the big twelve level and typically you 2003 01:43:31.640 --> 01:43:36.279 do see, not typically, but almost all the time, the 2004 01:43:36.359 --> 01:43:38.720 roles for these guys shrink. The question is how much 2005 01:43:38.720 --> 01:43:40.720 will is shrink? Will you know, will he still be 2006 01:43:41.279 --> 01:43:44.439 a go to guy at Utah? I would be a 2007 01:43:44.439 --> 01:43:46.479 little skeptical of that. You know, he's he probably just 2008 01:43:46.640 --> 01:43:47.720 ends up and I don't think it'd be like that's 2009 01:43:47.720 --> 01:43:49.520 still a true role player, but something in between. You know, 2010 01:43:49.520 --> 01:43:51.960 he's gonna be a guy second, third, fourth option. I 2011 01:43:51.960 --> 01:43:56.199 think on a average big twelve offense, like that's kind 2012 01:43:56.199 --> 01:43:58.199 of what you should be shooting for there. And so 2013 01:43:58.239 --> 01:44:01.359 it's gonna be up to say, Jada, you know, fill 2014 01:44:01.399 --> 01:44:04.079 in uh, you know, around him with other guys that 2015 01:44:04.119 --> 01:44:05.720 are gonna be able to score. Because if you if 2016 01:44:05.720 --> 01:44:07.279 you let him play the role that he played at 2017 01:44:07.560 --> 01:44:09.560 a fairly ticket, that probably won't. 2018 01:44:09.359 --> 01:44:12.560 Go well well said, if I asked you about this, 2019 01:44:12.680 --> 01:44:15.359 forgive me, I don't remember what I had for breakfast 2020 01:44:15.439 --> 01:44:19.000 this morning, But Kiano Dawes has decided to return to 2021 01:44:19.079 --> 01:44:21.840 the you to play for Alex and his staff as well. 2022 01:44:21.680 --> 01:44:23.720 What sort of news do you think that is for 2023 01:44:23.840 --> 01:44:24.479 Utah fans? 2024 01:44:26.239 --> 01:44:26.960 I think good news. 2025 01:44:27.000 --> 01:44:28.760 It's a it's a bonus really, you know. I mean 2026 01:44:28.760 --> 01:44:31.079 we talked about it last time where you know, you 2027 01:44:31.079 --> 01:44:34.319 you shouldn't be surprised if they completely turned over the roster, 2028 01:44:34.560 --> 01:44:37.840 and uh, they won't be turning over the roster. And 2029 01:44:39.319 --> 01:44:44.399 you know, Keanu's again he was a role player last year, 2030 01:44:44.479 --> 01:44:46.359 so he probably think is to be a role player 2031 01:44:46.359 --> 01:44:50.079 this year. But you know, a guy that that can 2032 01:44:50.239 --> 01:44:53.359 provide some offense for for the team and. 2033 01:44:53.000 --> 01:44:55.600 Uh, you know, I don't know where he. 2034 01:44:55.640 --> 01:44:59.000 Ranks in the offensive pecking order after the roster is constructed, 2035 01:44:59.039 --> 01:45:01.640 but U you know, he should be a guy who 2036 01:45:02.279 --> 01:45:04.960 you know is in that like mix to be you know, second, third, fourth, 2037 01:45:05.000 --> 01:45:06.920 leading score or something like that. If they can again 2038 01:45:07.520 --> 01:45:09.439 find some talent to kind of build around, and if 2039 01:45:09.439 --> 01:45:11.560 he ends up being the leading scorer, then you know, 2040 01:45:11.600 --> 01:45:14.399 it's probably a situation where you know, Utah's in the 2041 01:45:14.479 --> 01:45:16.000 in the bottom quarter of the league next year. 2042 01:45:16.600 --> 01:45:20.119 All right, before I say you lose BYU with some 2043 01:45:20.199 --> 01:45:23.399 news over the past week and they need a point guard. 2044 01:45:23.520 --> 01:45:25.760 Dallen Hall is in the transfer portal and Yegor or 2045 01:45:25.760 --> 01:45:28.520 Demon is going to the NBA. So give me your 2046 01:45:28.560 --> 01:45:32.119 thoughts on on both those those storylines. What sort of 2047 01:45:32.760 --> 01:45:35.720 NBA careers ahead for this this young man Diego Demon 2048 01:45:35.760 --> 01:45:38.279 and what does Kevin Young do? Look, they're going to 2049 01:45:38.319 --> 01:45:41.520 be fine based off of the reports about the nil 2050 01:45:41.640 --> 01:45:43.640 perse they have down there, but they do have a 2051 01:45:43.640 --> 01:45:44.359 hole in the roster. 2052 01:45:44.439 --> 01:45:46.079 Now, ken do what do you think goes down here? 2053 01:45:47.199 --> 01:45:49.439 Yeah, I mean they should be fine, Like, yeah, so 2054 01:45:49.479 --> 01:45:50.960 they have a hole in the roster, but I mean, 2055 01:45:51.000 --> 01:45:53.399 welcome to college basketball. That's like, you know, three hundred 2056 01:45:53.399 --> 01:45:55.359 other teams right now. I mean, the fact that they 2057 01:45:55.439 --> 01:45:59.560 don't have five holes on the roster is you know, 2058 01:45:59.600 --> 01:46:01.840 put the head of a lot of teams. And as 2059 01:46:01.840 --> 01:46:05.119 long as they kind of maintained that core of Richie 2060 01:46:05.159 --> 01:46:10.000 Saunders and Katakata primarily. You know, Dawson Baker coming back 2061 01:46:10.000 --> 01:46:13.039 will help out as well. Obviously, you know de Bonsa, 2062 01:46:13.479 --> 01:46:14.920 I don't know if you call him the centerpiece in 2063 01:46:15.000 --> 01:46:17.359 this whole operation, but you know he's going to be 2064 01:46:17.359 --> 01:46:19.680 a significant contributor as well. So I mean, just from 2065 01:46:19.680 --> 01:46:23.239 that standpoint, like, they'll be fine and they'll you know, 2066 01:46:23.720 --> 01:46:27.079 they'll Kevin Young will find guys to fill the roster 2067 01:46:27.279 --> 01:46:32.239 that I think we'll make this team, you know, at worse, 2068 01:46:32.319 --> 01:46:35.279 let's say a borderline top twenty five team. I think 2069 01:46:35.319 --> 01:46:38.319 with you know, Kata, Saunders and Devonsa. Just from that standpoint, 2070 01:46:38.359 --> 01:46:41.479 the team should be really good. To me, it's like 2071 01:46:41.560 --> 01:46:43.880 you don't want to like gig Or. I think we 2072 01:46:43.920 --> 01:46:46.439 all knew was leaving even though the year was disappointing. 2073 01:46:46.520 --> 01:46:48.960 Like he came. He came to Provo for one reason 2074 01:46:48.960 --> 01:46:51.079 and that was ja launch his NBA career, And so 2075 01:46:51.119 --> 01:46:54.000 it's not surprising that he's leaving and Dallen Hall leaving, 2076 01:46:54.560 --> 01:46:57.920 you know, I think in a vacuum not too surprising either. 2077 01:46:57.960 --> 01:47:00.920 I mean, YU doesn't suffer from the transfer bug as 2078 01:47:00.960 --> 01:47:04.399 much as other schools for for obvious reasons regarding the church, 2079 01:47:04.479 --> 01:47:07.279 and so you thought maybe maybe down Hall would come back. 2080 01:47:07.319 --> 01:47:09.439 But in a normal situation, with the year he had, 2081 01:47:10.119 --> 01:47:12.000 not terribly surprising he's leaving either, And it kind of 2082 01:47:12.000 --> 01:47:14.960 gives by you an opportunity to, you know, go out 2083 01:47:15.000 --> 01:47:17.159 and possibly get something better. I mean, I think, you know, 2084 01:47:17.800 --> 01:47:19.760 point guards out there to see what they what they're 2085 01:47:19.760 --> 01:47:22.199 coming into with the three guys, I just mentioned as 2086 01:47:22.239 --> 01:47:25.039 the core of the team. Like you know, it's gonna 2087 01:47:25.039 --> 01:47:26.880 be very attractive. So I don't think it's going to 2088 01:47:26.920 --> 01:47:28.960 be a problem here to find a you know, an 2089 01:47:28.960 --> 01:47:30.720 above average big twelve point card. 2090 01:47:31.399 --> 01:47:33.640 All right, Ken, before I set you loose, one more 2091 01:47:33.760 --> 01:47:36.720 push on the website. How can people go get their 2092 01:47:36.760 --> 01:47:43.359 work to support you so you can go work in Calgary. 2093 01:47:41.079 --> 01:47:44.199 Exactly, that's what it's all about. And uh yeah, Kenpalm 2094 01:47:44.199 --> 01:47:47.199 dot Com. 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I'll remind you 2105 01:48:12.359 --> 01:48:16.199 that the top eight teams in ken Palm's rating all 2106 01:48:16.239 --> 01:48:19.479 made the Elite eight, and the top four teams in 2107 01:48:19.600 --> 01:48:21.920 ken Palm's Raiding all made the final four. 2108 01:48:22.119 --> 01:48:23.600 The man knows what he's talking about. 2109 01:48:24.000 --> 01:48:28.039 It looks like they have better weather at Augusta today. 2110 01:48:28.119 --> 01:48:29.920 It's Masters Week, Part three. 2111 01:48:30.119 --> 01:48:34.880 Contest will be tomorrow that starts at ten am Mountain Time. 2112 01:48:34.920 --> 01:48:37.720 You can see it on ESPN Plus. I guess you 2113 01:48:37.760 --> 01:48:40.279 can see it on Disney as well if you have 2114 01:48:40.359 --> 01:48:43.119 the Disney app. I guess Disney's getting into golf. So 2115 01:48:43.159 --> 01:48:45.000 we'll do some Masters throughout the week. We'll get you 2116 01:48:45.039 --> 01:48:48.439 ready for the tournament coming up at Augusta National. Get 2117 01:48:48.479 --> 01:48:51.560 back to some of the basketball and football storylines. Mike 2118 01:48:51.600 --> 01:48:54.279 Malone has been fired as the head coach of the 2119 01:48:54.279 --> 01:48:57.159 Denver Nuggets. Rarel salt Lake is back in action. Coming 2120 01:48:57.279 --> 01:48:59.960 up on Saturday. They hit the Roadie tick on Nashville. 2121 01:49:00.720 --> 01:49:03.359 They'll be back home to take on Toronto the week 2122 01:49:03.399 --> 01:49:05.920 after that after getting all three points over the weekend 2123 01:49:05.920 --> 01:49:09.560 against the LA Galaxy. Our next guest sporting director, decision maker, 2124 01:49:10.199 --> 01:49:13.920 intelligent soccer minds and a good time. If you want 2125 01:49:13.920 --> 01:49:17.199 to grab some dinner, hang out Kurt Schmidt Tuesday afternoon. 2126 01:49:17.279 --> 01:49:18.159 Kurt, how are you, sir? 2127 01:49:19.520 --> 01:49:21.119 I'm good. 2128 01:49:21.399 --> 01:49:24.359 It sounds like you are in transit somewhere. Where do 2129 01:49:24.399 --> 01:49:25.920 we find you on this lovely Tuesday. 2130 01:49:27.479 --> 01:49:31.680 Yeah, yeah, in transit, heading heading home, and I gotta 2131 01:49:32.399 --> 01:49:35.119 get on the phone when I get there, So was 2132 01:49:35.520 --> 01:49:36.479 lucky to squeeze in. 2133 01:49:37.159 --> 01:49:38.560 Well, I feel lucky you made time. 2134 01:49:38.600 --> 01:49:40.079 Do you have to get on the phone with a 2135 01:49:40.119 --> 01:49:43.479 potential signing or two that you are trying to get 2136 01:49:43.479 --> 01:49:45.800 across the line prior to the transfer window closing in 2137 01:49:45.840 --> 01:49:47.479 about two and a half weeks. 2138 01:49:48.039 --> 01:49:50.680 Yeah, yeah, I mean it's definitely related. 2139 01:49:51.000 --> 01:49:54.159 So okay, fair enough, follow up? 2140 01:49:54.600 --> 01:49:56.359 Where are we at in this process? 2141 01:49:56.439 --> 01:50:00.359 You know, the last few weeks, it's been Jason, it's 2142 01:50:00.439 --> 01:50:04.279 been Tony, it's been uh, Pablo a couple of different times. 2143 01:50:04.319 --> 01:50:07.479 And since you are the guy and the buckstots with you, Yes, 2144 01:50:07.520 --> 01:50:10.119 I know it's a collaboration. You guys are talking together 2145 01:50:10.159 --> 01:50:13.119 in a room, you know, ourself fans chomping at the bid. 2146 01:50:13.159 --> 01:50:16.720 Are we getting close to getting these things across the line? 2147 01:50:17.199 --> 01:50:21.279 Yeah? Yeah, we're getting close, you know, not sleeping a 2148 01:50:21.319 --> 01:50:25.399 ton trying to trying to adjust my body clock to 2149 01:50:25.399 --> 01:50:29.600 to try to match the European time change a little bit. 2150 01:50:29.640 --> 01:50:32.960 But we're getting close a little bit, a little bit 2151 01:50:33.000 --> 01:50:36.319 every day. Obviously we all want it to go a 2152 01:50:36.359 --> 01:50:39.720 little bit faster, but it takes what it takes. 2153 01:50:40.199 --> 01:50:43.159 Well, Since you alluded to your body adjusting to the 2154 01:50:43.239 --> 01:50:47.039 European clock, I imagine you are speaking with players that 2155 01:50:47.119 --> 01:50:48.840 play there soccer in Europe. 2156 01:50:48.920 --> 01:50:49.760 Is that fair to say? 2157 01:50:51.159 --> 01:50:52.479 I can't believe I let that slip. 2158 01:50:54.880 --> 01:50:57.199 Europe's a big place, Kurt. There are plenty of soccer 2159 01:50:57.239 --> 01:50:59.439 teams over there. I mean a lot of. 2160 01:50:59.399 --> 01:51:02.159 People wonder because look, I could read you the rumors 2161 01:51:02.159 --> 01:51:04.720 that I see online, and I've got three strikers in 2162 01:51:04.720 --> 01:51:06.560 front of me that I'll play an MLS that you've 2163 01:51:06.560 --> 01:51:10.720 been linked to. But you're speaking the players internationally or 2164 01:51:10.760 --> 01:51:12.560 are you speaking to players domestically too? 2165 01:51:14.199 --> 01:51:16.600 Yeah, I mean there's not one option, right, So we've 2166 01:51:16.600 --> 01:51:19.600 got a couple options. There are some options in the league. 2167 01:51:19.960 --> 01:51:20.159 You know. 2168 01:51:20.279 --> 01:51:23.600 It's teams are in an interesting spot. We're right around 2169 01:51:23.600 --> 01:51:26.640 that time where you know they've got what they or 2170 01:51:26.640 --> 01:51:29.680 they think they know what they've got after the early 2171 01:51:29.720 --> 01:51:32.000 games of the season, and we're coming up towards the 2172 01:51:32.720 --> 01:51:34.880 trade deadline, so you're going to start to see some 2173 01:51:34.960 --> 01:51:37.920 movement within the league. So that may impact things as well, 2174 01:51:39.279 --> 01:51:41.600 you know, But what we're looking for is is a 2175 01:51:41.600 --> 01:51:43.720 tough spot, you know, a tough position to kind of 2176 01:51:43.760 --> 01:51:46.520 fill always from within the league, you know, I think 2177 01:51:46.520 --> 01:51:49.479 there's a few good candidates that could take a step 2178 01:51:49.520 --> 01:51:53.359 and be contributors, but you know, it's it's a tough 2179 01:51:53.359 --> 01:51:56.640 position to fill internally and usually have to go abroad 2180 01:51:56.680 --> 01:51:58.000 to get to get someone. 2181 01:51:57.720 --> 01:52:00.399 In there, as you know hurt. 2182 01:52:00.439 --> 01:52:03.880 And now we'll tell our listeners the primary transfer window 2183 01:52:04.000 --> 01:52:07.239 closes in two weeks, so we're looking at a hard 2184 01:52:07.279 --> 01:52:12.960 deadline of April to twenty third. What's realistic to expect 2185 01:52:13.279 --> 01:52:18.279 as far as making these additions prior to this window 2186 01:52:18.880 --> 01:52:21.640 and then the process of getting them on the ground 2187 01:52:21.840 --> 01:52:23.960 and how long it takes to get them acclimated to 2188 01:52:24.000 --> 01:52:26.800 the system, and what's reasonable to expect when we could 2189 01:52:26.840 --> 01:52:30.439 actually see them playing significant minutes and hopefully helping you 2190 01:52:30.479 --> 01:52:30.960 guys out. 2191 01:52:32.520 --> 01:52:34.560 Yeah, I mean, there's obviously the deal, you know, the 2192 01:52:34.600 --> 01:52:36.680 deal and time it takes that to get done, which 2193 01:52:36.680 --> 01:52:39.239 is where we're at right now, and hopefully finishing that up. 2194 01:52:40.479 --> 01:52:44.479 There's the integration process, which you know can't be forgotten. 2195 01:52:44.560 --> 01:52:47.600 I think the the you know, that's usually three to 2196 01:52:47.680 --> 01:52:50.399 four weeks, depending on a few different factors that are 2197 01:52:50.479 --> 01:52:54.319 of our hands. And then you know, your comments about 2198 01:52:54.520 --> 01:52:58.560 getting acclimated and adjusted to the system. That obviously is 2199 01:52:58.560 --> 01:53:01.760 the thing that takes probably the longest. You know, we 2200 01:53:01.840 --> 01:53:06.840 play with with a little more structure maybe than a 2201 01:53:06.840 --> 01:53:08.760 lot of teams where we might be recruiting from, and 2202 01:53:08.800 --> 01:53:12.520 so it'll take teams take players a minute to you know, 2203 01:53:12.560 --> 01:53:14.760 do enough video and get on the same page with 2204 01:53:14.760 --> 01:53:17.399 their teammates and the coaches and fit in. But we 2205 01:53:17.479 --> 01:53:19.920 still think a guy can come in and have an 2206 01:53:19.920 --> 01:53:23.159 immediate impact and create danger and help us right away. 2207 01:53:23.560 --> 01:53:27.119 How many players are you hoping to have signed before 2208 01:53:27.279 --> 01:53:28.279 April twenty third? 2209 01:53:30.199 --> 01:53:33.600 I will I will say, I'm I'm really hopeful we 2210 01:53:33.640 --> 01:53:38.279 get one guy in. If there's another one that we 2211 01:53:38.359 --> 01:53:41.640 can do, we'll do it. You know, we're we're keeping 2212 01:53:41.800 --> 01:53:45.720 our ears open, our eyes open to what's out there, 2213 01:53:45.800 --> 01:53:49.239 whether that's internal trades or abroad. You know, obviously we 2214 01:53:49.319 --> 01:53:53.720 have an international player limit which we are always kind 2215 01:53:53.720 --> 01:53:56.880 of bumping up against. So the odds of an additional 2216 01:53:56.920 --> 01:53:59.880 signing being domestic or quite high, So. 2217 01:54:00.359 --> 01:54:04.079 Of course everybody is surmising that. And for our listeners 2218 01:54:04.119 --> 01:54:06.159 if you're just tuning in, Kurt Schmid is with us. 2219 01:54:06.199 --> 01:54:09.199 So if there's one player across the line is it 2220 01:54:09.279 --> 01:54:11.520 safe to say that that player is a striker. 2221 01:54:14.199 --> 01:54:16.560 Uh yeah, sure, it's pretty safe. 2222 01:54:16.960 --> 01:54:20.079 Okay, definitely an attacker, and it's someone that can play 2223 01:54:20.560 --> 01:54:24.199 center forward for US. I think, you know, Ari and 2224 01:54:24.279 --> 01:54:26.520 Forster have done well. You know, even hayesus has come 2225 01:54:26.560 --> 01:54:29.079 on there and done well. There's still young players that 2226 01:54:29.479 --> 01:54:31.319 you know, we'll have their up and ups and downs. 2227 01:54:31.319 --> 01:54:34.920 We believe in all all through those guys, you know, 2228 01:54:35.000 --> 01:54:38.800 but I think sometimes it helps to have more experienced 2229 01:54:38.840 --> 01:54:41.720 player come in and you know, shoulder some of the burden, 2230 01:54:41.840 --> 01:54:44.640 some of the load and and you know, teach those 2231 01:54:44.680 --> 01:54:46.640 guys as well and help those guys develop. So we 2232 01:54:46.680 --> 01:54:49.399 are development of love as you know. So we're gonna 2233 01:54:49.479 --> 01:54:51.600 keep developing those guys. But yeah, we need to add 2234 01:54:51.600 --> 01:54:53.399 a little more experience in that part of the field. 2235 01:54:53.760 --> 01:54:57.520 If there should be a secondary player added, what position 2236 01:54:57.880 --> 01:55:00.760 would that secondary player play. 2237 01:55:02.119 --> 01:55:06.439 That's a great question. Likely in the attack, but not 2238 01:55:06.800 --> 01:55:10.119 closed off to anything. I think some of it is 2239 01:55:10.119 --> 01:55:12.840 is finding a good opportunity and something that we can 2240 01:55:13.039 --> 01:55:17.079 we can exploit, but likely looking to add some more 2241 01:55:17.079 --> 01:55:19.560 competition in the attack. I think our competition in the 2242 01:55:19.960 --> 01:55:21.680 in the middle of midfield and in the back line 2243 01:55:21.720 --> 01:55:26.520 has been has been good early in the season, you know, 2244 01:55:26.600 --> 01:55:29.159 but upfront is where we you know, we haven't scored 2245 01:55:29.159 --> 01:55:31.159 as many goals, and our competition there is and maybe 2246 01:55:31.239 --> 01:55:33.079 quite quite as good as it is in the back. 2247 01:55:33.159 --> 01:55:38.359 Right now, are you satisfied with the goal opportunities that 2248 01:55:38.399 --> 01:55:42.159 are created? Because it's one thing to have a pure 2249 01:55:42.199 --> 01:55:45.279 goal scorer, and certainly we've had a few on this team, 2250 01:55:45.319 --> 01:55:47.600 and one is recently last year as Chico that was 2251 01:55:47.640 --> 01:55:49.239 able to put away a lot of chances. 2252 01:55:49.560 --> 01:55:52.079 But you can't put away chances that they're not created. 2253 01:55:52.159 --> 01:55:56.880 So are you satisfied with the creativity the attacking ability 2254 01:55:57.439 --> 01:56:00.479 of your players right now that are providing the chances 2255 01:56:00.479 --> 01:56:05.359 that hopefully these new players will be able to finish happy? 2256 01:56:05.439 --> 01:56:08.920 Yes, satisfied? No, you know, it's it's obviously just the 2257 01:56:08.960 --> 01:56:11.000 math equation, right, You've got to score more than you 2258 01:56:11.079 --> 01:56:13.920 let in. So if you want to win games, do 2259 01:56:13.920 --> 01:56:16.039 you either got to let in fewer goals or score more. 2260 01:56:16.159 --> 01:56:18.840 So I look at it, you know, as yes, we 2261 01:56:18.880 --> 01:56:22.880 do need to create higher quality chances in in more games. 2262 01:56:22.880 --> 01:56:24.720 We need to create higher quality chances than we can 2263 01:56:24.760 --> 01:56:28.359 see in those games. I think defensively, you know, we 2264 01:56:28.399 --> 01:56:30.720 can we can tighten things up as well, and I 2265 01:56:30.760 --> 01:56:33.680 think we've been a little unlucky. We've also conceded some 2266 01:56:33.680 --> 01:56:36.199 some quality chances on the defensive end as well, But 2267 01:56:36.399 --> 01:56:40.199 those things are always intertwined. And I know that you know, 2268 01:56:40.239 --> 01:56:42.439 if we're able to finish of some chances that we're 2269 01:56:42.439 --> 01:56:45.439 creating earlier in games, that lightens the load on those guys. 2270 01:56:45.439 --> 01:56:48.319 So I want to do both. I want to increase 2271 01:56:48.399 --> 01:56:50.720 the chances we the quality of the chances we create, 2272 01:56:51.039 --> 01:56:54.840 and decrease the quality chances that we concede. But I 2273 01:56:54.840 --> 01:56:56.479 think those things are interdependent. 2274 01:56:57.319 --> 01:57:04.000 So as somebody who is acutely aware of the difficulties 2275 01:57:04.319 --> 01:57:07.159 that decision makers like you face when it comes to 2276 01:57:07.199 --> 01:57:10.560 getting these deals done, I know that I'll ask you 2277 01:57:10.640 --> 01:57:13.279 about the delays as to why this has taken place, 2278 01:57:13.319 --> 01:57:17.279 and we could go in a million different directions. So ultimately, 2279 01:57:17.439 --> 01:57:20.800 how would you characterize and articulate to RSL fans why 2280 01:57:20.840 --> 01:57:23.760 these signings have not been able to be completed yet? 2281 01:57:25.920 --> 01:57:28.359 Yeah, I mean, look, it takes at two and in 2282 01:57:28.359 --> 01:57:30.600 this case three to tango, right, You've got to get 2283 01:57:30.760 --> 01:57:33.560 us another club and another player all on the same 2284 01:57:33.600 --> 01:57:36.079 page at the same time to get a deal done, 2285 01:57:36.199 --> 01:57:38.640 and we're only in control of one of those three parties, 2286 01:57:39.079 --> 01:57:42.760 so we are at the whim of other parties a 2287 01:57:42.800 --> 01:57:47.920 lot of the time. And and and sorry, they'll train 2288 01:57:47.960 --> 01:57:48.319 a thought. 2289 01:57:48.399 --> 01:57:52.039 But when we when we go out. 2290 01:57:51.920 --> 01:57:54.079 And we're talking to these clubs, you know, they have 2291 01:57:54.119 --> 01:57:58.079 their own motivations. Okay, they could they could be motivated 2292 01:57:58.119 --> 01:58:00.680 to sell or not their windows closed, which we seees 2293 01:58:00.680 --> 01:58:03.520 in advantage sometimes in MLS that our windows stays open 2294 01:58:03.600 --> 01:58:07.640 so long, but it can also be disadvantaged because as 2295 01:58:07.680 --> 01:58:10.479 we go and talk to clubs, they you know, if 2296 01:58:10.479 --> 01:58:12.760 they've got a player who's performing for them in that moment, 2297 01:58:13.279 --> 01:58:16.239 they don't always want to let that guy go if 2298 01:58:16.239 --> 01:58:19.560 they can't replace him. So we're kind of battling battling 2299 01:58:19.600 --> 01:58:21.079 those that pushful. 2300 01:58:21.720 --> 01:58:25.800 It has been reported pretty widely widely excuse me, first 2301 01:58:25.800 --> 01:58:29.800 by Sportico and then ultimately the Salt Lake Tribune and others, 2302 01:58:30.359 --> 01:58:32.680 that there is a what I've been told is an 2303 01:58:32.680 --> 01:58:36.319 eminent ownership shift where the Miller family is coming in 2304 01:58:36.399 --> 01:58:39.439 to take the business interest on of the team. Ryan 2305 01:58:39.479 --> 01:58:42.199 Smith will exit stage left to focus on other things, 2306 01:58:42.239 --> 01:58:45.720 and the Blitzer group will maintain whatever control they maintain. 2307 01:58:46.520 --> 01:58:49.800 The natural follow up, Kurtis, has this ownership stuff in 2308 01:58:49.840 --> 01:58:52.520 this transition, has this delayed your ability to make some 2309 01:58:52.560 --> 01:58:53.880 of these decisions and get it done. 2310 01:58:56.159 --> 01:58:59.239 I'll just tell you that I'm I'm far too worried 2311 01:58:59.279 --> 01:59:04.840 and busy with with trying to get some signings over 2312 01:59:04.880 --> 01:59:09.159 the line to comment to you about any ownership situation. 2313 01:59:09.520 --> 01:59:12.159 Fair enough and smart answer, But I do want to 2314 01:59:12.199 --> 01:59:14.600 go back to what you referenced because I think I 2315 01:59:14.600 --> 01:59:17.159 think Ralpha cabral has been really, really good. And as 2316 01:59:17.199 --> 01:59:22.079 you referenced earlier, you know, it's a math equation. You've 2317 01:59:22.119 --> 01:59:24.119 got to put in more than you give up. And 2318 01:59:24.600 --> 01:59:27.720 maybe lost in the attention on the attack is you 2319 01:59:27.760 --> 01:59:30.560 guys have given up eleven goals, which is third worst 2320 01:59:30.560 --> 01:59:31.079 in the West. 2321 01:59:31.119 --> 01:59:34.000 Are we focused too much on one. 2322 01:59:33.880 --> 01:59:37.000 Area of your team when maybe there's other areas that 2323 01:59:37.039 --> 01:59:38.600 we need to be honed in on as well. 2324 01:59:40.039 --> 01:59:43.680 Yeah, absolutely, I do think we need to tighten things 2325 01:59:43.760 --> 01:59:46.239 up in the back. But as I said before, the 2326 01:59:46.359 --> 01:59:49.800 things that those things are interdependent. So on the one hand, 2327 01:59:49.800 --> 01:59:53.039 there's a psychological opponent where if you feel like, you know, 2328 01:59:53.039 --> 01:59:55.720 if you're playing center back or goalkeeper or you know, 2329 01:59:55.760 --> 01:59:57.960 anywhere in the back line and you feel like your 2330 01:59:57.960 --> 02:00:00.840 team can score a goal, you play with a little 2331 02:00:00.840 --> 02:00:03.199 more confidence and maybe you're a little loose or less tense, 2332 02:00:03.600 --> 02:00:06.239 and that helps you play better. Uh, even if that 2333 02:00:06.239 --> 02:00:09.800 that guy doesn't score, but if if you're worried about 2334 02:00:09.840 --> 02:00:12.600 that potentially you know, and maybe we miss a good 2335 02:00:12.680 --> 02:00:15.279 chance or two, and now it shakes everybody a little bit. 2336 02:00:15.359 --> 02:00:18.840 So from that standpoint, there's a psychological component. Defense is 2337 02:00:18.840 --> 02:00:21.199 also a team game. Rafa, I think Rafa has been 2338 02:00:21.560 --> 02:00:25.079 you know, very good despite despite the stat you mentioned. 2339 02:00:25.479 --> 02:00:27.680 I think he's played really well. He's led the back line, 2340 02:00:27.720 --> 02:00:30.359 he's been good in possession, He's made some good says. 2341 02:00:31.319 --> 02:00:33.239 But you know, there's ten guys in front of him 2342 02:00:33.640 --> 02:00:38.079 that also have have a responsibility to limit the chances 2343 02:00:38.119 --> 02:00:40.640 that that we give up so that Rafa doesn't have 2344 02:00:40.720 --> 02:00:42.880 to be as good or have to do as much. 2345 02:00:43.359 --> 02:00:44.840 And so we need to we need to work on 2346 02:00:45.199 --> 02:00:45.720 both of them. 2347 02:00:46.479 --> 02:00:48.960 So of course, uh, you know, a lot of attention 2348 02:00:49.079 --> 02:00:53.159 right now on Diego, deservedly so with his recent UH 2349 02:00:53.319 --> 02:00:56.399 national team call ups, his kind of cult uh you know, 2350 02:00:56.680 --> 02:00:59.560 uh status there, with his ability to play through injury, 2351 02:00:59.600 --> 02:01:02.680 and that Oakan knows and was named the Utah Male 2352 02:01:02.760 --> 02:01:04.880 Athlete of the Year got a brace for you guys 2353 02:01:04.880 --> 02:01:08.279 against the Galaxy, becomes the youngest RSL player to tally 2354 02:01:08.319 --> 02:01:12.239 fifteen goals fifteen assists. Uh, and it's only it's only 2355 02:01:12.279 --> 02:01:15.159 good news as you reference your developmental club. And as 2356 02:01:15.239 --> 02:01:18.600 Jason said on the show last week, we're a club that, uh, 2357 02:01:18.760 --> 02:01:20.880 you know, we don't necessarily ride a check for ten. 2358 02:01:20.840 --> 02:01:22.000 Million dollars for a player. 2359 02:01:22.039 --> 02:01:23.960 We develop a check and then sell that player for 2360 02:01:24.000 --> 02:01:27.079 ten million dollars. I would imagine, Kurt, your phone has 2361 02:01:27.119 --> 02:01:28.960 to ring all the time about this young man. 2362 02:01:29.039 --> 02:01:34.800 Yeah, look, Diego's doing doing great. How much my phone 2363 02:01:34.880 --> 02:01:38.279 is or isn't ringing in relation to him, you know, 2364 02:01:38.520 --> 02:01:41.800 is not really the point. I think the club, the 2365 02:01:41.880 --> 02:01:44.239 club values him a ton. I value him a ton. 2366 02:01:44.359 --> 02:01:47.119 I know the coaches value him a ton, and and 2367 02:01:47.239 --> 02:01:49.680 my goal is to keep him here where he's performing 2368 02:01:49.720 --> 02:01:52.199 at a good level as long as we can, you know, 2369 02:01:52.279 --> 02:01:55.239 and how long that is is you know again, like 2370 02:01:55.279 --> 02:01:56.920 I said, as long as we can keep the ear 2371 02:01:56.960 --> 02:01:59.880 and he's happy here, you know, we're happy to happy 2372 02:01:59.880 --> 02:02:02.319 to keep him intemp So you know, all that other 2373 02:02:02.359 --> 02:02:04.479 stuff is you know, we don't want it to become 2374 02:02:04.520 --> 02:02:07.640 a distraction, either for us or for him, or for 2375 02:02:07.680 --> 02:02:10.039 the fans or anybody. Let's just you know, the point 2376 02:02:10.079 --> 02:02:12.319 is to enjoy him while he's here and have him 2377 02:02:12.319 --> 02:02:13.960 help us be as successful as possible. 2378 02:02:14.640 --> 02:02:17.560 But also by your own admission and the admission of others. 2379 02:02:17.560 --> 02:02:20.359 The point is, in addition to keeping them happy and 2380 02:02:20.439 --> 02:02:22.920 keeping them playing well, the point, the other point is 2381 02:02:22.960 --> 02:02:26.079 to continue the club's ethos and belief that you are 2382 02:02:26.119 --> 02:02:30.119 a team that identifies young talent, develops that young talent, 2383 02:02:30.159 --> 02:02:33.079 and then moves that young talent on if you can, 2384 02:02:33.439 --> 02:02:35.600 you know, get the right price. So what are what 2385 02:02:35.640 --> 02:02:38.359 are the uh the plates that you're juggling and spinning 2386 02:02:38.399 --> 02:02:41.560 around above your head as you're balancing out what the 2387 02:02:41.680 --> 02:02:44.520 right thing is to do for a player that is 2388 02:02:44.560 --> 02:02:47.479 on record saying that he wants to play in Europe 2389 02:02:47.520 --> 02:02:49.720 and as the chief decision maker for a club that 2390 02:02:49.800 --> 02:02:51.560 is on record saying this is what we do. 2391 02:02:51.600 --> 02:02:53.159 We develop young and then we sell. 2392 02:02:54.960 --> 02:02:59.079 Yeah, we developed, We we buy or you know, draft 2393 02:02:59.279 --> 02:03:03.079 or bring the academy young players. We developed them, and yeah, 2394 02:03:03.159 --> 02:03:04.960 we sell them, but we don't, you know, we don't 2395 02:03:05.000 --> 02:03:07.600 need to sell all of them. We do need to 2396 02:03:07.640 --> 02:03:10.119 sell some to keep the sort of cycle churning and 2397 02:03:10.159 --> 02:03:12.960 the cycle going. But every situation is different, right so 2398 02:03:13.119 --> 02:03:16.159 Jego situation, it will be different and is different from 2399 02:03:16.479 --> 02:03:20.079 Andreas or Fodel or anyone else that we're talking about. 2400 02:03:20.159 --> 02:03:23.239 We're also a club, you know, and as I'm you know, 2401 02:03:23.399 --> 02:03:25.640 working on the team and the roster and building things 2402 02:03:25.720 --> 02:03:28.439 up that you know, we we do need to have 2403 02:03:28.520 --> 02:03:32.039 some uh some pillars of the of the group right 2404 02:03:32.119 --> 02:03:34.640 that that can be on the team for a long time. 2405 02:03:34.720 --> 02:03:37.560 And right now you've got guys like Oheita. You've got 2406 02:03:37.640 --> 02:03:39.479 guys like a Mecca to two guys that play in 2407 02:03:39.520 --> 02:03:42.039 the middle of the field that you know, I think 2408 02:03:42.199 --> 02:03:44.960 could be could be longer term players here. Brian has 2409 02:03:44.960 --> 02:03:47.119 already been here, you know, a few years, and I 2410 02:03:47.159 --> 02:03:49.640 think when I got here, you know, it was sort 2411 02:03:49.680 --> 02:03:52.159 of the end of U or we're coming towards the 2412 02:03:52.239 --> 02:03:53.560 end of a cycle where we you know, we had 2413 02:03:53.560 --> 02:03:55.960 Demeir and we had Albert, we had Marcelo. You know, 2414 02:03:56.000 --> 02:03:59.439 we had some good veteran guys that has sort of 2415 02:03:59.479 --> 02:04:02.039 you know, eight out or left the team, and now 2416 02:04:02.119 --> 02:04:05.960 we've got to replace that aspect as well. And as 2417 02:04:06.000 --> 02:04:08.600 you know, as as you pointed out, as Uson pointed out, 2418 02:04:08.760 --> 02:04:12.600 we're maybe not going to go buy you know, six seven, eight, nine, 2419 02:04:12.600 --> 02:04:15.039 ten million dollar guy to fill that role, but we 2420 02:04:15.079 --> 02:04:17.199 think we can develop guys into that role as well. 2421 02:04:17.279 --> 02:04:20.960 So the player development aspect, you know, has has more 2422 02:04:21.000 --> 02:04:22.319 than one logical endpoint. 2423 02:04:23.119 --> 02:04:27.199 So let's get an update, progress update in your opinion 2424 02:04:27.439 --> 02:04:30.680 or lack thereof, wherever you're at with it. For Diogo, 2425 02:04:30.760 --> 02:04:34.119 who on paper is your only designated player, and you know, 2426 02:04:34.199 --> 02:04:36.720 the breakaway against La you got to at least make 2427 02:04:36.760 --> 02:04:38.880 the keeper make a safe, you know. But but I 2428 02:04:38.920 --> 02:04:41.199 will give him credit because he's the one that won 2429 02:04:41.239 --> 02:04:44.800 the ball back and provided the secondary assist on Diego's 2430 02:04:44.840 --> 02:04:48.560 first goal. But I just think in that spot, you know, 2431 02:04:48.640 --> 02:04:52.359 with all the attention and fanfare he received when he 2432 02:04:52.439 --> 02:04:54.880 was signed, I think there are people that are wanting more. 2433 02:04:55.079 --> 02:04:57.359 Where you at, Kurt, with the progress of Diego. 2434 02:04:58.800 --> 02:05:00.680 Yeah, I think he's playing really well this year. I 2435 02:05:00.680 --> 02:05:04.000 think he's facilitating the game a lot. You mentioned the 2436 02:05:04.039 --> 02:05:07.439 first goal. Second, you know, he facilitates uh in the 2437 02:05:07.680 --> 02:05:09.960 in the possession for the second goal as well. And 2438 02:05:10.399 --> 02:05:14.479 you know, him getting those chances is a huge positive. 2439 02:05:14.800 --> 02:05:17.359 You know, when we look at recruitment and scouting and 2440 02:05:17.399 --> 02:05:20.279 evaluate players within without the league. We you know, we 2441 02:05:20.319 --> 02:05:23.279 look at things like expected goals and expected assists and 2442 02:05:23.399 --> 02:05:26.199 is this guy creating chances that are a flight quality? 2443 02:05:26.279 --> 02:05:28.760 Is he is he taking you know, is he taking 2444 02:05:28.760 --> 02:05:31.479 shots of a high quality? And you know those are 2445 02:05:31.520 --> 02:05:34.760 areas where Diogo's done all right this season and the 2446 02:05:34.800 --> 02:05:37.640 execution needs to get there. And I think, you know, 2447 02:05:38.000 --> 02:05:41.479 when he continues to create those chances, I do think 2448 02:05:41.479 --> 02:05:43.600 he's going to finish them. You know, he's obviously got 2449 02:05:43.720 --> 02:05:46.600 the one goal this year arguably should have uh, you know, 2450 02:05:46.640 --> 02:05:48.600 the second one for you know, second one should have 2451 02:05:48.600 --> 02:05:51.840 been in LA against La one hundred percent. But I 2452 02:05:51.880 --> 02:05:55.479 know he's a team guy, and he's nobody's harder on 2453 02:05:55.720 --> 02:05:59.000 Diogo than Diogo for for missing a chance like that. 2454 02:05:59.720 --> 02:06:02.600 But I I'm just I'm I couldn't be happier to 2455 02:06:02.760 --> 02:06:06.720 see it manifest itself in him fighting to win that 2456 02:06:06.760 --> 02:06:09.000 ball back and create our first goal, to help us 2457 02:06:09.000 --> 02:06:11.520 score the second goal. And he's a team guy, and 2458 02:06:11.600 --> 02:06:14.600 I know he's he's certainly far happier that we went, 2459 02:06:14.720 --> 02:06:16.920 that we win the game, then he is upset that 2460 02:06:16.960 --> 02:06:17.960 he missed the chances. 2461 02:06:18.279 --> 02:06:21.199 One spot, Kurt that I've felt and this this is 2462 02:06:21.319 --> 02:06:23.239 just you know, this is something you're gonna have to 2463 02:06:23.279 --> 02:06:25.880 walk me through because I just I like Alex Catranis, 2464 02:06:25.880 --> 02:06:28.399 and I think there's a lot to like the Alex 2465 02:06:28.439 --> 02:06:30.840 and Sam battle at that spot. 2466 02:06:31.479 --> 02:06:34.159 I think, you know, it's one thing when you guys. 2467 02:06:33.880 --> 02:06:37.279 Had the Conka Calf Champions League kind of schedule sneak 2468 02:06:37.359 --> 02:06:38.880 up on you where you're gonna have a bunch of 2469 02:06:38.880 --> 02:06:41.319 midweek games. But when that went out at the table, 2470 02:06:41.359 --> 02:06:43.880 I just figured that spot was Alex's. And there's nothing 2471 02:06:43.960 --> 02:06:46.680 wrong with a healthy competition, But what do you make 2472 02:06:46.720 --> 02:06:49.039 of that battle and how it's kind of played out? 2473 02:06:50.680 --> 02:06:54.439 I think, yeah, competition is the watchword, right It's he's 2474 02:06:54.479 --> 02:06:58.920 he's had that position. Last year, he didn't have as 2475 02:06:58.960 --> 02:07:01.680 much competition for that spot. You know, this year Sam 2476 02:07:01.720 --> 02:07:04.079 came in to kind of help us out in two 2477 02:07:04.079 --> 02:07:06.720 spots that left center back and left back and help 2478 02:07:06.800 --> 02:07:11.279 us through fix your congestion. One was in Concast Champions League, 2479 02:07:11.319 --> 02:07:14.920 hopefully another as a as a run in Leagu's Cup. 2480 02:07:16.159 --> 02:07:18.119 But yeah, right now, when it's one game a week, 2481 02:07:18.159 --> 02:07:22.000 it's it's competition. And when we have competition between two 2482 02:07:22.039 --> 02:07:26.359 guys that can both start in this league at the 2483 02:07:26.399 --> 02:07:29.159 same position. That's gonna make each of them, you know, 2484 02:07:29.199 --> 02:07:31.560 perform at the top of their game. So I think 2485 02:07:31.840 --> 02:07:37.159 Sam's appearances Sam starts or something that's gonna motivate Alex 2486 02:07:37.199 --> 02:07:38.680 and sharpen him up. And I thought he had a 2487 02:07:38.720 --> 02:07:41.800 good game on Saturday, and I know that's gonna do 2488 02:07:41.960 --> 02:07:43.520 the same to Sam. And I think if we have 2489 02:07:43.640 --> 02:07:46.479 those two guys pushing each other as hard as possible, 2490 02:07:46.479 --> 02:07:50.960 it's gonna make us as good as possible, regardless who starts, right. 2491 02:07:51.079 --> 02:07:54.720 So that's that's the goal when we strive to build 2492 02:07:54.760 --> 02:07:57.000 that depth and competition. And as I said earlier, I 2493 02:07:57.039 --> 02:07:59.000 think we've done a good job of that along the 2494 02:07:59.000 --> 02:07:59.600 back line. 2495 02:08:00.079 --> 02:08:03.000 Healthy are you guys heading into the weekend in Nashville. 2496 02:08:05.800 --> 02:08:09.359 Picked up a knock or two that we're still working 2497 02:08:09.399 --> 02:08:13.880 on obviously, you know Kobe Henry last week. This week, 2498 02:08:14.039 --> 02:08:16.880 you know, maybe maybe one more. Uh, it's a little 2499 02:08:16.920 --> 02:08:19.520 too early to kind of say, gonna gonna have to 2500 02:08:19.520 --> 02:08:20.800 see how the next couple. 2501 02:08:20.600 --> 02:08:21.000 Of days a go. 2502 02:08:22.039 --> 02:08:24.840 All right, before I say you loose, Uh, I've heard 2503 02:08:24.840 --> 02:08:28.840 that Nashville UH Soccer specific UH Stadium is pretty is 2504 02:08:28.840 --> 02:08:29.399 pretty cool. 2505 02:08:29.680 --> 02:08:31.439 Is this your You've been there before, haven't you? 2506 02:08:32.680 --> 02:08:33.039 Yeah? 2507 02:08:33.159 --> 02:08:33.359 Yep? 2508 02:08:34.039 --> 02:08:37.359 What's your what's your favorite visiting venue? What's what's the 2509 02:08:37.760 --> 02:08:41.840 best atmosphere? If I take our spot away here, what's 2510 02:08:41.880 --> 02:08:43.560 what's your favorite venue to go watch a game? 2511 02:08:43.600 --> 02:08:43.840 AP? 2512 02:08:45.560 --> 02:08:47.840 I won't, I won't pick one. I mean, I think 2513 02:08:48.039 --> 02:08:51.119 I think places like Portland, like l a. C. Even 2514 02:08:51.199 --> 02:08:56.720 like Minnesota, Austin, when those places are alive, they're they're 2515 02:08:56.800 --> 02:09:02.479 really they're entertaining to watch, and they're they're intimidating atmospheres 2516 02:09:02.520 --> 02:09:05.520 to to play in as a as a visiting team, 2517 02:09:05.720 --> 02:09:08.279 and I think they're just as a soccer fan, they're 2518 02:09:08.399 --> 02:09:10.800 just you know, like a wonderful place is to watch 2519 02:09:10.800 --> 02:09:14.279 a game and to experience a game. I know there's 2520 02:09:14.279 --> 02:09:17.199 a few others that I'm missing, and you know, apologize, 2521 02:09:17.199 --> 02:09:19.680 I guess, but there's some really good atmospheres, and I think, 2522 02:09:20.000 --> 02:09:22.439 you know, from a stadium standpoint, there's obviously been some 2523 02:09:22.479 --> 02:09:25.600 really nice stadiums built recently within the league. You know, 2524 02:09:25.600 --> 02:09:28.840 we were just in Minnesota. That's a really nice stadium. 2525 02:09:29.079 --> 02:09:31.479 You know, Nashville is certainly one of them. You know, 2526 02:09:31.920 --> 02:09:34.159 I mentioned also already with they're one of them, as well, 2527 02:09:34.319 --> 02:09:36.960 you know, so there are some you know, there's some 2528 02:09:37.039 --> 02:09:38.960 nice stadiums in the league these days. So it's really 2529 02:09:39.319 --> 02:09:41.479 it's a pleasure for the for the players, and it's 2530 02:09:41.520 --> 02:09:44.560 a far cry from back in the day when when 2531 02:09:44.600 --> 02:09:45.000 this thing. 2532 02:09:44.960 --> 02:09:46.119 Started up, no doubt. 2533 02:09:46.239 --> 02:09:48.920 All right, buddy, safe travels will set you loose because 2534 02:09:48.920 --> 02:09:51.439 you have more important phone calls to make, namely in Europe. 2535 02:09:51.760 --> 02:09:54.680 Thanks for the time about with chat too perfect Thanks 2536 02:09:54.720 --> 02:09:58.279 men Ert Schmid, sporting director for Real Salt Lake. 2537 02:09:58.680 --> 02:10:03.279 Two weeks away from the primary transfer window closing. 2538 02:10:04.640 --> 02:10:06.439 All right, wrapping up the program for. 2539 02:10:06.479 --> 02:10:11.199 This Thursday afternoon, thirty fifth anniversary today, people's instinctive travels. 2540 02:10:11.399 --> 02:10:14.920 Great tribe call quest album not their best album, not 2541 02:10:15.039 --> 02:10:19.159 their best album, but a great album. Midnight Marauders, I 2542 02:10:19.159 --> 02:10:22.680 don't know, reasonable minds can disagree. Thirty five years old 2543 02:10:22.800 --> 02:10:26.000 makes me feel little. I don't think I kicked the 2544 02:10:26.039 --> 02:10:28.119 tires with you on some pretty exciting breaking news. Ted 2545 02:10:28.159 --> 02:10:29.720 Lasso is coming back for season four. 2546 02:10:29.880 --> 02:10:32.119 Oh really, don't. 2547 02:10:31.880 --> 02:10:34.800 Pretend like you're excited. You are our resident. That show sucks, 2548 02:10:34.840 --> 02:10:36.640 guy Order. 2549 02:10:36.760 --> 02:10:38.960 I don't know if I said that order verbatim. 2550 02:10:39.039 --> 02:10:40.560 You're being a revisionist historian. 2551 02:10:40.920 --> 02:10:45.439 I thought that the uh, the uproar about the show 2552 02:10:45.640 --> 02:10:48.359 was a little out of hand, maybe a little excessive, 2553 02:10:49.439 --> 02:10:52.279 But as you pointed out during that, uh, I think 2554 02:10:52.279 --> 02:10:56.279 that folks needed, uh, you know, needed some good vibes 2555 02:10:57.079 --> 02:10:59.239 at the time. Yeah, and he provided that. 2556 02:10:59.359 --> 02:11:00.680 Yeah, it was COVID. 2557 02:11:01.279 --> 02:11:03.520 It's subsided a little bit. So I think we were 2558 02:11:03.520 --> 02:11:06.119 both right because you look at it now, and you know, 2559 02:11:06.159 --> 02:11:09.920 people aren't losing their minds over what is ay find 2560 02:11:10.119 --> 02:11:11.520 Jason Sudeikis sitcom. 2561 02:11:12.079 --> 02:11:15.840 Nobody was losing their minds at the time. Our options 2562 02:11:15.840 --> 02:11:21.000 were Tiger King, Cable News Fair, or Ted Lasso. 2563 02:11:21.279 --> 02:11:23.000 It was a breath of fresh. 2564 02:11:22.720 --> 02:11:27.000 Air for a world that was ending and melting right 2565 02:11:27.039 --> 02:11:28.960 before our eyes. And you had to be a thief 2566 02:11:29.000 --> 02:11:31.199 of joy. That's what you were. You're a thief of joy. 2567 02:11:31.720 --> 02:11:34.840 I just sucked that, I know, talking about it as 2568 02:11:34.880 --> 02:11:40.760 if it were like like a genuinely groundbreaking piece of 2569 02:11:41.079 --> 02:11:46.600 cinematic art who said that I'll go find stuff for you. 2570 02:11:46.760 --> 02:11:47.760 That's a little silly. 2571 02:11:48.199 --> 02:11:50.039 See to me, it was just simply like a feel 2572 02:11:50.199 --> 02:11:53.720 good show that had some funny moments, and Jason Sadaeikis 2573 02:11:53.800 --> 02:11:54.439 is a funny guy. 2574 02:11:54.479 --> 02:11:56.479 I agree with you Okay, I don't hate it. 2575 02:11:56.640 --> 02:11:58.399 Glad we landed on the same spot. I still haven't 2576 02:11:58.399 --> 02:12:00.920 seen it, but you never want to wait a second. 2577 02:12:01.479 --> 02:12:03.640 You can't criticize it if you haven't seen it. 2578 02:12:03.720 --> 02:12:06.319 I haven't seen the four seasons again. I watched the 2579 02:12:06.319 --> 02:12:08.000 beginning and it was just like, you know, it's fine, 2580 02:12:08.039 --> 02:12:12.560 it's funny. I'll be honest. I thought that the it 2581 02:12:12.600 --> 02:12:14.760 was a little like forced, like some of the writing 2582 02:12:14.800 --> 02:12:16.880 was a little corny. And that's what usually gets me 2583 02:12:17.600 --> 02:12:21.199 with with shows. It's usually when I check out. 2584 02:12:21.199 --> 02:12:26.479 But hey, teach, I always need that reminder that you 2585 02:12:26.479 --> 02:12:30.680 don't like fun things. Sometimes I forget and then you remind, 2586 02:12:30.760 --> 02:12:34.479 Like you don't play fantasy football. Certain you don't like holidays, 2587 02:12:34.680 --> 02:12:36.720 You hate kids. You don't like puppies. 2588 02:12:38.000 --> 02:12:38.760 I love puppies. 2589 02:12:38.760 --> 02:12:40.840 You do love puppies. Yeah, you don't like kids. 2590 02:12:41.640 --> 02:12:42.560 I like some kids. 2591 02:12:42.640 --> 02:12:45.239 You don't like very many kids. You don't like holidays. 2592 02:12:45.560 --> 02:12:47.239 I like some holidays. 2593 02:12:47.319 --> 02:12:50.479 And you don't like ted Lasso, and you don't play 2594 02:12:50.479 --> 02:12:51.319 fantasy football? 2595 02:12:51.920 --> 02:12:52.279 That one? 2596 02:12:52.399 --> 02:12:54.600 You know, what do you like that's fun? Give me 2597 02:12:54.640 --> 02:12:56.880 a fun thing that you like besides seeing a rare 2598 02:12:56.960 --> 02:12:59.520 bird in nature? Who take that off the table? 2599 02:13:00.079 --> 02:13:06.359 Shine. Okay, you know, collective sporting events give me a good, good, 2600 02:13:06.560 --> 02:13:07.520 good good feel. 2601 02:13:07.600 --> 02:13:10.079 I thought you were gonna say collective soul. I'm glad. 2602 02:13:10.239 --> 02:13:12.199 I'm glad you said collective sporting events. 2603 02:13:12.199 --> 02:13:21.359 That's good fun things. I love some tennis. Actually playing tennis. 2604 02:13:21.479 --> 02:13:22.119 Tennis is fun. 2605 02:13:22.399 --> 02:13:24.880 I like getting out out for a you know, a 2606 02:13:24.920 --> 02:13:27.880 good hike. Flowers. I love flowers. 2607 02:13:27.880 --> 02:13:28.680 You love flowers. 2608 02:13:28.760 --> 02:13:29.520 I'm a plant guy. 2609 02:13:29.800 --> 02:13:31.039 You love flowers and birds. 2610 02:13:31.520 --> 02:13:31.640 Uh. 2611 02:13:33.359 --> 02:13:36.079 You love it when our textures compliment you did blackmail 2612 02:13:36.119 --> 02:13:36.680 you for golf? 2613 02:13:36.880 --> 02:13:37.439 I do like that. 2614 02:13:37.640 --> 02:13:40.239 I guess butter you up for golf. Uh so that 2615 02:13:40.319 --> 02:13:41.479 happened today? All right. 2616 02:13:41.560 --> 02:13:46.079 Last thing, Bobby Marx RNA Show wrote a piece concerning 2617 02:13:46.159 --> 02:13:50.399 Luka Dacic and what every team could have offered if 2618 02:13:50.520 --> 02:13:53.319 Niko Harrison did the thing where you're like, I don't know, 2619 02:13:53.439 --> 02:13:55.680 maybe just let everybody know he's available and take the 2620 02:13:55.680 --> 02:13:58.720 best deal instead of shipping to the Lakers. Here's what 2621 02:13:58.880 --> 02:14:01.840 Bobby Marks outlined that the Jazz could have offered for 2622 02:14:01.920 --> 02:14:06.600 Luka Doncic, John Collins, Isaiah Callier, Taylor Hendrix, two twenty 2623 02:14:06.640 --> 02:14:10.159 seven first round picks, a twenty nine first round pick, 2624 02:14:10.960 --> 02:14:14.199 and yeah, there you go, So it would be five picks, 2625 02:14:14.239 --> 02:14:17.319 five first round picks, John Collins, Isaiah Callier, Taylor Hendrix. 2626 02:14:17.960 --> 02:14:18.760 Where do I sign? 2627 02:14:19.960 --> 02:14:22.680 You make that deal seven days out of seven and 2628 02:14:22.680 --> 02:14:27.159 twice on Sundays. But of course Nico Harrison decided not 2629 02:14:27.239 --> 02:14:28.960 to let you know the NBA know that he was 2630 02:14:29.000 --> 02:14:31.640 about to trade a generational global superstar at the age 2631 02:14:31.680 --> 02:14:34.960 of twenty five. Mike Malone fired today as the Denver 2632 02:14:35.079 --> 02:14:39.319 Nuggets head coach. Since shockwaves across the world of pro basketball. 2633 02:14:39.960 --> 02:14:42.680 Busy night in the NBA, Busy night in hockey, the 2634 02:14:42.760 --> 02:14:45.159 Utah Hockey Club. Welcome in the Seattle cracking for a 2635 02:14:45.199 --> 02:14:48.399 seven o'clock drop of the puck at the Delta Center. 2636 02:14:49.159 --> 02:14:51.079 Kind of the only local thing going on. Jazz back 2637 02:14:51.119 --> 02:14:54.279 of action tomorrow taking on Portland. So there you go, 2638 02:14:54.319 --> 02:14:55.720 all right, port Before we get out of here, what 2639 02:14:55.800 --> 02:14:58.720 comes our way? On a Wednesday edition of the radio show. 2640 02:14:58.800 --> 02:15:01.359 On a Wedday edition, the program will catch up with 2641 02:15:01.439 --> 02:15:03.560 Andy Larson from the Stall Lake Tribune, as we do 2642 02:15:03.600 --> 02:15:07.439 each and every week. NHL Behind the Glass with our 2643 02:15:07.439 --> 02:15:11.680 guy Neil Smith. The Stanley Cup champion Zach Harper will 2644 02:15:11.720 --> 02:15:14.880 stop by the program that is your NBA Daily assist 2645 02:15:15.000 --> 02:15:18.640 for a Wednesday, and we're gonna catch up with Carly Daukendorf, 2646 02:15:18.680 --> 02:15:23.239 the head coach for Utah women's gymnastics. They're going to 2647 02:15:23.279 --> 02:15:27.560 the Nationals for the forty ninth maybe fiftieth straight year. 2648 02:15:28.359 --> 02:15:31.079 Some pretty impressive stuff and always good to catch up 2649 02:15:31.119 --> 02:15:31.640 on that side. 2650 02:15:31.640 --> 02:15:34.319 What's the one gymnastics discipline you think you could do 2651 02:15:34.439 --> 02:15:35.119 without training? 2652 02:15:35.199 --> 02:15:37.720 Oh, here we go, you've got an answer. I was 2653 02:15:37.720 --> 02:15:40.399 a gymnast for the young parts of my life. My 2654 02:15:40.439 --> 02:15:41.640 mom thought it was gonna help me with all the 2655 02:15:41.680 --> 02:15:43.920 other sports I probably did. I can still do a 2656 02:15:43.920 --> 02:15:47.560 back handspring. That's impressive. Yeah, I would break my leg 2657 02:15:47.600 --> 02:15:50.960 if I tried. I haven't tried probably like eight or 2658 02:15:51.000 --> 02:15:53.239 nine months, so I probably shouldn't say that. But last 2659 02:15:53.239 --> 02:15:56.359 time I checked, I could still do it backhands So. 2660 02:15:56.359 --> 02:15:58.800 What are you saying the floor exercise would be your thing? 2661 02:15:58.880 --> 02:16:00.479 Is that the deal? If you had a pick one? 2662 02:16:01.520 --> 02:16:05.119 Because I'll be honest, I am amazed at all of 2663 02:16:05.119 --> 02:16:08.000 the disciplines that gymnasts do, Like it doesn't register in 2664 02:16:08.000 --> 02:16:09.600 my brain is like, yeah, you could go do that. 2665 02:16:09.920 --> 02:16:13.840 Yeah, I don't know. I don't know that there's one 2666 02:16:13.840 --> 02:16:18.640 that like actually really specifically would play into to what 2667 02:16:18.680 --> 02:16:21.600 I would do. I always like the bars. 2668 02:16:21.439 --> 02:16:22.800 The uneven ones fair enough. 2669 02:16:23.159 --> 02:16:26.680 I'm kind of like a jungle Jim kiddo, so I'll 2670 02:16:26.720 --> 02:16:27.039 go with. 2671 02:16:26.920 --> 02:16:29.359 That one fair enough. By the way, low End Theory 2672 02:16:29.399 --> 02:16:31.600 is Tribe's best album. I just want to be on record. 2673 02:16:31.640 --> 02:16:33.520 It's not Midnight Marauders, Brandon, do. 2674 02:16:33.520 --> 02:16:34.079 Not add me? 2675 02:16:34.520 --> 02:16:36.959 All right, Well, say good night special, Thank you, Tony Jones, 2676 02:16:36.959 --> 02:16:38.879 Tim McMahon, Ken Pomeroy, Kurt Schmidt. 2677 02:16:38.879 --> 02:16:40.239 If you missed any of it, you know the deal. 2678 02:16:40.280 --> 02:16:44.079 Website ESPN seven hundred sports dot com, download our mobile app, 2679 02:16:44.120 --> 02:16:46.200 take us on the go, easiest best way to listen 2680 02:16:46.200 --> 02:16:48.639 to the station. And then, if you have some time 2681 02:16:48.680 --> 02:16:51.360 tonight watching some hockey or some NBA, pull up your 2682 02:16:51.440 --> 02:16:55.159 preferred podcast catcher, search the drive with spence check It's 2683 02:16:55.239 --> 02:16:58.120 find our pod. 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