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<v Speaker 1>You're listenings camp. I am six forty the bill handles

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<v Speaker 1>show on demand on the iHeartRadio. F Maybe I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>in the calendar. Yeah, I'm looking at my calendar and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so anxious for Christmas because I'm such a bad Jew.

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<v Speaker 1>On that December twenty fourth air of Christmas. Nice, thank you. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>here's what I want to talk about New DA in La.

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<v Speaker 1>George Gascon, who I think it's fair to say it's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the weirdest, about the weirdest DA LA's ever had,

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<v Speaker 1>sweeps into office as this ultra pro defense prosecutor, almost

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<v Speaker 1>to the point where you know, where you see a

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<v Speaker 1>prosecutor table and a defense table at trials, it's almost

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<v Speaker 1>as if they're only the defense table, prosecutors and the

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<v Speaker 1>defense lawyers at the same table. So he's sweeps in

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<v Speaker 1>the office in the aftermath of George Floyd and the

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<v Speaker 1>anti police and the anti prosecutorial movement that came in.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, black lives matter, and it's ill, but beyond

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<v Speaker 1>just black lives matter, the entire criminal justice system. So

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<v Speaker 1>he sweeps into office based on this insane pro defense philosophy,

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<v Speaker 1>no more death penalty, small crimes, small misdemeanors, theft that

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, vandalism. We're not going to try them

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<v Speaker 1>at all. We're not even to prosecute. We're not even

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<v Speaker 1>a file charges. And it's just on and on. Where

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<v Speaker 1>enhancements for drug for gang membership or heinous crimes off

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<v Speaker 1>the table. And one which really pissed me off that

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<v Speaker 1>when there was a parole hearing and family members were

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<v Speaker 1>asked or were allowed to testify the prole hearings as

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<v Speaker 1>to the heinousness of the crime and how they're family

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<v Speaker 1>members usually were killed. Prosecutors usually join that. Gascone said,

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<v Speaker 1>no prosecutors. Nope, no prosecutors. Well, he lost by twenty points.

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<v Speaker 1>Over twenty points. I mean, we knew that George Gascone

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<v Speaker 1>was being swept out. So new guy in town, new

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<v Speaker 1>sheriff in town. Oh, we got a new sheriff here,

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<v Speaker 1>Nathan Hochman, promising to restore justice and balance and says, well,

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<v Speaker 1>the DA's office just has lost its way over the

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<v Speaker 1>last four years and blew me. A lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>agree with that. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who swore Hawkman in former governor,

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<v Speaker 1>said that Los Angeles has failed. We need a prosecutor

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<v Speaker 1>who is fair, who is not pro not hard ass prosecution,

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<v Speaker 1>and hawkman just bringing back the prosecutor's office to a

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<v Speaker 1>reasonable position. He's not particularly left wing or right wing.

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<v Speaker 1>He is just a reasonable position. That's what we have

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<v Speaker 1>to do. Now. At the swearing in ceremony, hundreds of people, prosecutors, cops,

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<v Speaker 1>victims' rights organizations were cheering, standing up and cheering. When's

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<v Speaker 1>the last time you would ever think a prosecutor would

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<v Speaker 1>be standing in a crowd waiting to cheer on a

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<v Speaker 1>new DA. That's how much he was hated by the

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<v Speaker 1>prosecutor's office. Schwarzenegger blamed Gascogne for a lot of us

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<v Speaker 1>for a rise in lawlessness and chaos in La County. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to give you a reality check for a moment. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's look at the stats. Violent and property crimes did

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<v Speaker 1>rise twenty nineteen to twenty twenty three, mainly under Gascon's watch,

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<v Speaker 1>but that was during the post pandemic crime and hit

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<v Speaker 1>other California counties with conservative DA's even harder, and criminologists

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<v Speaker 1>are looking at and saying, you know what, the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that Gascone or any progressive prosecutor be blamed for the

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<v Speaker 1>ebbs and flows of crime trends shouldn't happen. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it was his influence, but was it primarily his influence?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it because of Gascon and his policies? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily so on mister Greemer crimes hawkman Veau vowed

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<v Speaker 1>to bring charges where Gascone didn't, but he is offering diversion,

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<v Speaker 1>restitution programs addiction issues. He plans to have prosecutors offer

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<v Speaker 1>a choice between prison or an eighteen month intensive rehab program.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know who's going to pay for that,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's always a question. He is going to pursue

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<v Speaker 1>death verdicts again, which Gascon took off the table. He'll

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<v Speaker 1>only do it in rare cases, which by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>is in rare cases anyway. Even when California did have

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<v Speaker 1>the death penalty, which it still does, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>a moratorium because Gavin Newsom is saying no death penalty.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not going to kill anybody while I'm the governor.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's only a moratorium. Next governor can institute it,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we haven't had an execution. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen years now the death penalty. Californians want the death penalty.

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<v Speaker 1>I had the pleasure, and I use that word selectively,

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<v Speaker 1>I had the pleasure of witnessing an execution here in

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<v Speaker 1>the state of California, and it was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>best days of my life. I thought it was hugely entertaining,

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<v Speaker 1>hugely entertaining. Hawkman announced the formation of task forces to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with homelessness, fentanyl, human trafficking, organized retail crime, residential burglary,

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<v Speaker 1>and hate crimes. And also he's going to clean out

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<v Speaker 1>the higher end of the prosecutor's office, which always happens.

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<v Speaker 1>New DA comes into town, gets elected, it is his

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<v Speaker 1>or her closest advisors, senior people to where the DA was.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, just you bring in your own people and

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<v Speaker 1>you fire the ones that followed or believed in the

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<v Speaker 1>previous administration, the policies. In this case, everybody who staunchly

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<v Speaker 1>believed in what Gascon was doing. People that he promoted gone.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they're still in the prosecutor's office. They're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be great. Story about Todd Spitzer, who had

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<v Speaker 1>someone who was very high up in Rucklehouse's administration when

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<v Speaker 1>he was the DA, and it was someone who absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>defended the former DA. I mean, just crazy defended him

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<v Speaker 1>and was one of this senior prosecutors. I think, if

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<v Speaker 1>I remember correctly, was assigned to the intern program dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with high school students who wanted to be prosecutors or cops.

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<v Speaker 1>Big change and Todd. If I have that wrong, I

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<v Speaker 1>know Todd listens, let me know, and I'll correct myself.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to mention names, but I will correct myself.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say, Nah, Handle, you're wrong like you normally are. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>coming up the Great Grocery Squeeze. Neil has talked about

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<v Speaker 1>this food deserts, and we're not talking about a grocery

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<v Speaker 1>store in the middle of the Mohave. We're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>food deserts where there are no grocery stores in populated areas.

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<v Speaker 2>You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM

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<v Speaker 2>six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>Today, the Court dives headfirst into the issue of transfer

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<v Speaker 1>gen the gender rights. There's a challenge Tennessee's ban on

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<v Speaker 1>gender affirming care for miners, and the Court's going to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with that. We'll see which way it goes. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a legitimate argument there. You know, obviously I'm in favor

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<v Speaker 1>of transgender rights across the board, but the argument is

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<v Speaker 1>do we want to discriminate or do we want to

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<v Speaker 1>outlaw transgender affirming care to miners, transgender affirming care surgeries

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<v Speaker 1>to miners? Yeah, think can say no. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a legitimate argument for sure. All right, let's continue on.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I want to go off politics for a while

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<v Speaker 1>until we go back to politics coming up at eight

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<v Speaker 1>twenty with Donald Trump's newest selection, and I'll talk about that.

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<v Speaker 1>So now I want to talk about a story came

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<v Speaker 1>out in the Atlantic, and this is the concept of

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<v Speaker 1>food deserts and what's a food desert? Americans who live

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<v Speaker 1>in low income communities with no access to fresh groceries

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<v Speaker 1>and why Well, the consensus is that the population isn't

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<v Speaker 1>big enough, stores can't make enough money, and they just

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<v Speaker 1>don't have what it takes to attract a supermarket either

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<v Speaker 1>too poor, too parsley, too sparsely populated. And the argument

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<v Speaker 1>that there is a racist pattern of corporate redlining, which

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how extensive that is. I believe some

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<v Speaker 1>of that is true. Rather, when did food deserts rive.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't happen until the nineteen eighties. Before that, small towns,

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<v Speaker 1>poor neighborhoods had grocery stores, sometimes even several. The term

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<v Speaker 1>food desert was coined in nineteen ninety five by a

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<v Speaker 1>task force studying this new phenomenon. For example, let me

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<v Speaker 1>give you an example of a food desert. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>high poverty, majority black neighborhood in Washington, d c. In

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen sixties, it had more than half a dozen

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<v Speaker 1>grows grocery stores. By the nineteen nineties, the number had

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<v Speaker 1>dwindled to two. Today none zero. And this is also

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<v Speaker 1>going on across rural America. Until the nineteen eighties, almost

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<v Speaker 1>every small town in North Dakota had a grocery store,

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<v Speaker 1>some had several. Now half of the rural residents of

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<v Speaker 1>North Dakota live in a food desert. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>the USDA defines a food desert as a low income

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<v Speaker 1>census tract where the nearest grocery store is more than

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<v Speaker 1>ten miles away in a rural area, more than one

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<v Speaker 1>mile away in a city. Now, I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>many people live more than a mile away from a

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<v Speaker 1>grocery store. I do now where I live, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in a food desert. And then right outside of

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<v Speaker 1>a mile, like one point one miles from my house

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<v Speaker 1>is a Gelson, So I am in a food desert.

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<v Speaker 1>So there were a bunch of state and federal programs

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<v Speaker 1>tried to address food deserts, giving tax break subsidies to

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<v Speaker 1>supermarkets to go to these areas. That's failed. There are

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<v Speaker 1>more now than there were in twenty ten. So what

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<v Speaker 1>happened well in the thirties is when things changed. A

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<v Speaker 1>and P, which was the biggest supermarket in the country,

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<v Speaker 1>was supplanting local grocery stores and what became market dominant

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<v Speaker 1>and Congress the investigation said A and P had a

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<v Speaker 1>huge advantage that had nothing to do with greater efficiency,

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<v Speaker 1>better service, legitimate ways of competing, which is why the

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<v Speaker 1>law allowed them to do what they did. A and

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<v Speaker 1>P was using its sheer size to pressure suppliers into

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<v Speaker 1>giving it preferential treatment over small retails retailers, and the

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<v Speaker 1>food manufacturer had no choice. A and P said, you

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<v Speaker 1>sell us for a lower price, or we're not buying.

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<v Speaker 1>And what are they going to do? So they charge

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<v Speaker 1>food manufacturers charge independent grocers more money. Well, Congress in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirty six passes the Robinson Patman Act, and what

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<v Speaker 1>is that Well, it bars price discrimination. It is illegal

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<v Speaker 1>for suppliers to offer president preferential deals for retailers who

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<v Speaker 1>demand them, but it does allow businesses to pass along

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<v Speaker 1>legitimate savings. For example, if a supermarket or supermarket chain

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<v Speaker 1>buys by the truckload, that's going to be less money

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to that they're going to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>buy that product, those groceries for less money. What this

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirty six law said is that anybody who buys

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<v Speaker 1>buy a truckload has to be allowed to buy it

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<v Speaker 1>at the same price. You can't have that kind of discrimination.

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<v Speaker 1>So in nineteen fifty four, the eight largest supermarket chains

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<v Speaker 1>had twenty five percent of the entire grocery sales. Same

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<v Speaker 1>thing in nineteen eighty two. Now it's the three biggest

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<v Speaker 1>market chains. So what is going on, Well, it was

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<v Speaker 1>in the nineteen eighties when that all went away under

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<v Speaker 1>Reagan and this law that was passed disappeared because it

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<v Speaker 1>was a regulatory act that the government forced this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of non discrimination activity, and Reagan said we can't have

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<v Speaker 1>governmental intervention here. Reagan hated bureaucracy. So then it blew

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<v Speaker 1>up and now they're in the same position that Walmart

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<v Speaker 1>buys at a a ridiculously low price because it buys

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<v Speaker 1>by the palette full. It buys by the container, buys

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<v Speaker 1>by the shipload and gets great prices. But if I

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<v Speaker 1>buy by the shipload the same product, I have to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to get the same price. That's what this

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<v Speaker 1>act does. And there's a move to bring it back

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<v Speaker 1>because the mom and poppers have disappeared. They're just gone.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the seven to eleven is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the seven one hundred and eleven. All right, we're done. See,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's analysis. Okay, Neil, we've been talking about

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<v Speaker 1>that legal analysis, show analysis. You put the ass in analysis.

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<v Speaker 1>I do, thank you so much. Okay, here's a question.

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<v Speaker 1>When does the telescope become a serious national security risk?

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<v Speaker 1>A telescope.

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<v Speaker 2>You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from a sixty.

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<v Speaker 1>December fourth Hume Day, and a lot of stuff going

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, both sides have a legitimate argument

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<v Speaker 1>legitimate argument both sides. You know. I'm on one side

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<v Speaker 1>few days, for sure. Now here's a question, and I

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<v Speaker 1>fifty nine year old director of the Vera Reuben Observatory.

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<v Speaker 1>dollar telescope and he's being stopped by the government. The

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<v Speaker 1>which agency, and so he's communicating through intermediary intermediaries at

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<v Speaker 1>the National Science Foundation. It's like Hamas and Israel negotiating

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<v Speaker 1>through Katar. That's what's happening here. One person, several people

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<v Speaker 1>who knows. Now, this satellite is on a mountaintop in Chile,

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<v Speaker 1>the at Kama Desert, and it's like the James Webb

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<v Speaker 1>but the web telescope can only see a tiny fraction

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<v Speaker 1>of the sky. The Vera Rubin will be able to

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<v Speaker 1>sky and after thirty seconds share it with everybody. There's

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<v Speaker 1>an algorithm in real time. Well, here is the problem,

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<v Speaker 1>the world spy satellites, it's going to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>see spy satellites and all of a sudden, every astronomer

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<v Speaker 1>on the planet can see a spy satellite, and the

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<v Speaker 1>United States, in our case, I would say, is a

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<v Speaker 1>big telescopes. For example, during Apollo, potential landing sites on

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<v Speaker 1>to find out where those tiles had been damaged or not.

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<v Speaker 1>here's a spy satellite. Instantly people can figure out which country,

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<v Speaker 1>which model, how big the camera is. And so the

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<v Speaker 1>national government, our government is a little bit upset about that.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's what they decided to do. And therefore this

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<v Speaker 1>is where this astronomer got really interested in this or negotiated.

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<v Speaker 1>They negotiated that before it goes to astronomers all over

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<v Speaker 1>the world. In real time, it goes to the military.

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<v Speaker 1>It's censorship program they have, but it's not really sophisticated.

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<v Speaker 1>So you have these sensors who are not particularly astronomers

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<v Speaker 1>and brilliant about it, take marking pins and draw across

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<v Speaker 1>the image. Now these satellites, this one in particular, we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about tiny little dots to figure out where the

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, you have this honking marking pen going

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<v Speaker 1>across the screen and he goes, come on, that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of insane. So here is the negotiation up to this point.

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<v Speaker 1>Because they haven't finished yet. Okay, we'll get an algorithm,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll write it. That then goes to you guys, and

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<v Speaker 1>if there is something moving across the sky asteroid doesn't matter,

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<v Speaker 1>spacecraft of any kind, and it can tell because it's

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<v Speaker 1>a time lapse. If there's anything moving, it goes to

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<v Speaker 1>the military to figure out and they have eight nine

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<v Speaker 1>the astronomers. They know what should not be seen, and

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<v Speaker 1>then that information is released. This telescope is as good

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<v Speaker 1>as the James Web telescope billion dollars over twenty years.

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<v Speaker 1>And as you know, telescopes can read people reading a

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<v Speaker 1>newspaper from two hundred miles up. I mean literally the

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<v Speaker 1>negotiation going on so far. It's just kind of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the story of the guy with the marketing pen.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the sensor, you know redacted, whole sections of

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<v Speaker 2>You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM

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<v Speaker 1>As of ten o'clock last night, nine hundred and forty

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<v Speaker 1>five thousand dollars raised for Katerina's Club and almost eighty

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<v Speaker 1>thousand pounds of pasta and sauce. That's forty tons, almost

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred thousand dollars over where we were at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time last year, and we blew through one point

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<v Speaker 1>three million dollars last year to help feed the kids,

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<v Speaker 1>and man, without you, it just doesn't happen. We're half

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<v Speaker 1>of the total. We're half of the budget of Katerina's Club.

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<v Speaker 1>By Bruno likes us so much. Okay, something that we've

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<v Speaker 1>been talking about a long time that I sort of

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<v Speaker 1>personally am involved with, and that is the number of

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<v Speaker 1>colleges that close each year. And I've been talking about

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<v Speaker 1>it and it's such a concern that the federal government

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<v Speaker 1>actually looked at this, and this is the Federal Reserve

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<v Speaker 1>Bank of Philadelphia. Because now we want real numbers. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>we want science, Now, we want real surveys, because quite

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<v Speaker 1>often we come up with stuff that seems to be

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<v Speaker 1>but there's no there's no there there without scientific background.

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<v Speaker 1>This is now a real report coming up with real

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<v Speaker 1>numbers under the worst case scenario, assuming a one time

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen percent drop in students, like right now, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>demographic cliff. It's called eighty colleges right now would shut

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<v Speaker 1>down one hundred thousand students twenty thousand staff members. Now nationally,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not a whole big number, but the trend is there.

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<v Speaker 1>For a bunch of reasons. Higher education has come under

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<v Speaker 1>some serious pressure the last several years. And why are

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<v Speaker 1>fewer people going to college? And just a quick aside

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<v Speaker 1>my personal involvement. One of the schools that closed was

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<v Speaker 1>my law school. Whittier Law School is now defunct. It

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<v Speaker 1>is done, it is finished, it is out of business.

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<v Speaker 1>If you look at my law degree, and there it

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<v Speaker 1>not kum laudy, not well loud, yes, because that was

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<v Speaker 1>my law school. So I graduated kumb loud because too loudy. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just shut down. So my school is one

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<v Speaker 1>of those victims. Thank god I graduated law school before

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<v Speaker 1>it shut down. Although a lot of people would argue

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<v Speaker 1>that why are the number of students way down? We'll

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<v Speaker 1>look at this the birth rate is down. We know

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<v Speaker 1>that a larger number of students are looking at the

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<v Speaker 1>value of a traditional college degree. Tuition has exploded. Borrowing

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<v Speaker 1>it is way way down. And the value of a

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<v Speaker 1>college education. Well, I get asked all the time, should

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<v Speaker 1>my son go to law school? Should I go to

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<v Speaker 1>law school? And I say no, Now you can go

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<v Speaker 1>to where I went to school. It's now a parking

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<v Speaker 1>lot and check out the school. Is it going to

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<v Speaker 1>help you hard to get a job? Now, when you

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<v Speaker 1>hear about these one hundred and eighty thousand dollars a

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<v Speaker 1>But you have to go in IVY League school. We

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<v Speaker 1>start my own practice. And unfortunately, there are a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people that are going to school and anesthesiologists. Look

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<v Speaker 1>long did it take? Where other people are working and

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred thousand dollars student debt they have to come

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<v Speaker 1>up with now. Granted, anestesiologists are able to pay that

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<v Speaker 2>you both put people to sleep for a living.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. One of the things. I mean, I'll take

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<v Speaker 1>coming up? Oh the sucking up of Trump? Oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>an indescribable pace. I'll do that story with you, and

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<v Speaker 1>then another Trump story, another spin which is fascinating, and

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<v Speaker 1>So we still have plenty of show. KFI AM six

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