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Speaker 1: You. I am now listening to soft core History.

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Speaker 2: What is up? Welcome back to Softcore History. I am

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your host for the week, Rob Fox, joined as always

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by Dan Chester.

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Speaker 1: It is that weird in between time Christmas, New Year's.

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Nobody knows what day it is, nobody knows what they're

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supposed to be doing. It's the best time of the year.

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Oh it's great.

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Speaker 2: I aspire to live my entire life like that.

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Speaker 1: You're in the in between. This is purgatory in real life,

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it's wonderful. Nobody's really working.

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Speaker 2: It's what I imagine like a celebrity schedule is like

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or unemployed. Well, yeah, either either.

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Speaker 1: I've been living this for six months now.

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Speaker 2: I chose the glass half full example, but uh yeah,

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I guess either way.

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Speaker 1: My life doesn't change much. This is what I go

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through every day.

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Speaker 2: It's just like it's like the taking a dump part

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of the year where it's like, if I'm on the toilet,

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no one can bother me.

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Speaker 1: So you're just scrolling your phone for a week. Yeah,

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on the toilet. Yeah, that's a representation of what this is.

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Speaker 2: And it's I love it. It's my favorite part of

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the year by far, Like Christmas, Eve to New Year's Day.

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Speaker 1: You can be a total piece of shit.

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Speaker 2: Oh it's wonderful, but especially those middle you know, the

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twenty six, twenty eighth, those.

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Speaker 1: Days nothing's expected of you.

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Speaker 2: Nothing, You are not meant to be a good citizen.

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Speaker 1: Plus your kids already have the toys. They're off in

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their rooms. Yeah, they're doing whatever, doing their own thing.

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You can get a couple of naps in, maybe throwing

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a bowl game.

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, falling asleep in front of a bowl game, that's.

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Speaker 1: What this is for. Man, we can't get rid of

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bowl games. It's valuable nap time.

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Speaker 2: It really is. It's the background noise that just lulls

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me to sleep every time.

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Speaker 1: Plenty of leftovers from your Christmas dinner, whether you're doing

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the Seven fishes, you make another turkey, maybe do some

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Chinese takeout.

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Speaker 2: We're pre recording, even though we might not have needed

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to all along.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I guess you might not go to Saint Louis.

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Speaker 2: Because all of my children are fucking ill with hand,

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foot in mouth.

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Speaker 1: Apparently kids are a cesspool disease.

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Speaker 2: And if I can peel back the curtain of my

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marriage for a minute. My wife texted me and was

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like I'm pretty sure I have it. I have diarrhea,

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and I have to drive home with diarrhea. I was like,

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pretty sweet, cool, sounds fun. It's a cool marriage you

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guys have, Yeah, being so open. Yeah, well, it's mostly

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just for her to be like, look at how hard

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I have it. When I get home, you will be

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doing everything.

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Speaker 1: See. This is actually that week between Christmas and New

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Year's as hell for you. Yeah, well you don't get

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to go to your sanctuary of work.

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Speaker 2: Yeah seriously, Well, once they have the toys, that'll be fine.

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And when she clocks out, when she's like, I'm sick,

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I got a clock out, I'm just like, all right,

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well I'm only half clocking in. So that's when the

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screen time really hit so fucking.

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Speaker 1: Peak.

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Speaker 2: It's what she's like, just sick, and I'm like, dude.

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Speaker 1: Fuck this anyway, this is a history show.

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Speaker 2: Well come man, Yeah, we have a fun one today.

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We have a fun, fun topic today. I've seen this

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guy before, but I've never done an episode on him.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Today we are talking about mo Burg.

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Speaker 1: Damn it, dude, that's what I picked for the Patreon episode?

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Is it really? No? Oh? Fuck, I'm just waiting for

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the one day where it happens to it's a miracle

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than like five years we haven't.

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Speaker 2: Done that, I know.

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Speaker 1: So we'll record sometimes multiple episodes in the same day

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not knowing the other person's topic. If you're new to

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the show this format, somebody brings a topic and we react, Yeah,

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and we're just waiting for that one day where we

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pick the same topic.

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Speaker 2: And it's more so because we're I feel like, very

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similar in taste that we would think so that we

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would pick.

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Speaker 1: No, that's kind of why we do what we do,

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where we besides not putting all the work on one person,

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the different taste and different variety of topics for each individual,

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especially when Jake was here, Yeah, it was uniquely their topic. Yeah,

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we don't really cross over.

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Speaker 2: Jake was the most unique of the three of us.

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There was a very specific Jake episode.

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Speaker 1: He did a lot of cults.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he did a lot of cults. Walk conspiracies

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leaned into that.

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Speaker 1: I tried to take over that kind of baton.

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Speaker 2: Little bit here and there, Guitou and the other guys.

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But yeah, Mo Burg right up my alley. We're talking

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baseball and we're talking World War two today. Hell yeah,

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So Berg was born to Bernard Berg. He was a

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pharmacist and an immigrant from Ukraine, and his mom was Roseberg.

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She was a homemaker there a bout Jewish, lived in

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Harlem in New York, just a few blocks. He was

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born from the Polo Grounds, where the famous baseball stadium

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that is long gone at this point, but that's where

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if you don't know what the Polo Grounds is, Willie

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May's famous catch catch Polo Grounds, if you're wondering why

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it's such an incredible catch to center.

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Speaker 1: Field was like seven hundred feet or something stupid like that,

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because it was like a racing track, super short, Yeah, porches,

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but then if you went deep center, no chance.

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Speaker 2: None, none. So Berg his dad bought a pharmacy in

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West Newark and the family moved there. Berg family moved

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again into a nicer section in Newark called Roseville, and

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I think his dad wanted to move there essentially because

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there's good schools, middle class residents. And this part was

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a little interesting, but it actually makes sense to me,

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and not in a horrible way. There weren't a lot

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of Jews in that area of the town, and I

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think he just really wanted to be like, not like

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you wanted to assimilate and just be like an America essentially,

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not be like, oh, I'm I'm living in the Ukrainian

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part town of the Jewish part town, like I just

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want to be mixed in with everyone else.

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Speaker 1: He wanted to become an American. Yeah, yeah, so I'm

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glad you had to throw that in. Maybe we can

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cash in on some of that anti jew seo that's

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been going around.

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, it's hot, Oh it's hot. So Berg started

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playing baseball when he was seven years old. He played

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for the Roseville Methodist Episcopal Church baseball team, but.

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Speaker 1: He deh playing cyo ball. Yeah, well kinda. Yeah. He

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went under the pseudonym.

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Speaker 2: He didn't play as his name mo Burg because he's Jewish,

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so he told him his name was Runt Wolf.

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Speaker 1: It's a solid alias.

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Speaker 2: It seems like he was gassing himself up, like put

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the young wolf in.

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Speaker 1: But not when it's runt Yeah, I know it's a

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tiny wolf, yeah, runt Wolf. Was he a small man? No?

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maybe that's what it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, he was pretty normal I think size

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and everything because he would I was spoilerler he would

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go on to play Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 1: The Church wasn't involved in the league.

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Speaker 2: No, no, okay, so at nineteen eighteen.

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Speaker 1: No have you seen though, like college football teams or

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a lot of baseball teams, they put up graphics with

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their craziest opponents.

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Speaker 2: Oh, my high school CBC Christian Brothers College High School

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in Saint Louis, we have played Notre.

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Speaker 1: Dame, didn't you guys also qualify for like a bronze

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medal in the Olympics.

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Speaker 2: We won the silver medal in the nineteen oh four

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Olympics in soccer.

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Speaker 1: That's sweet. Yeah. A bunch of plumbers, like literal plumbers.

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Their union played yeah Indiana.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so my high school has.

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Speaker 1: Actually nineteen oh seven, my high school's played Notre Dame

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in football and won a silver medal in the Olympics.

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So if you ever made that joke, you know, ironmen

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Speaker 2: Sometimes it's not firemen and plumbers. Sometimes it's children, sometimes

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actual kids. Yeah, many times in fact, it's children. Like

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that is such a weird thing too, because they would

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play like a children in one game and then like

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grizzled men.

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Speaker 1: In like the very next inmates.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes it also inmates from I'm not wearing my hat today,

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but the Wyoming State Penitentiary played a high school. Yeah,

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multiple times.

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Speaker 1: I think worked them too.

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Speaker 2: Oh they beat the shit out of them. Yeah, hard men.

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Speaker 1: And then some of them got executed like months and

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So at the age of sixteen nineteen eighteen, Berg

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graduates from Baronser High School. He was kind of an

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outsider there a little bit, just because he was like

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the only Jewish person. Most people were Italian Catholics or Protestants.

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would be considered the All City team. It was the

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nine man quote dream team that the Newark Star Eagle

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chose for public and private high school baseball players. He

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was a third baseman, starting third basement on the All

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City team. How was his glove really good?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Actually so he would he would eventually convert to catcher,

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and he was were baseball gloves like back then in

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nineteen eighteen, like an oven.

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Speaker 1: Mit, everything had to hurt.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Well, the only thing that's nice is they're

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not really squaring it up as well.

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Speaker 1: No, ball is probably a little softer maybe not actually, no,

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because it's the dead ball era. Maybe harder. Yeah it's

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a rock okay, so yeah, but it is the dead

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ball era, So they're not it's not bouncing off the

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back quite. They're not juiced for Aaron Judge to take

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imaginary record or hot take.

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Speaker 2: People think they juiced Albert pool Holes balls in his

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last year too, so we could get to seven hundred.

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Speaker 1: We're not going to take any Albert pool Holes slander

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just because you hate the Cardinals. I don't like the

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Cardinals either. Bro pool Holes is maybe one of the

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best players to ever live.

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Speaker 2: I don't hate pool Holes. His ten year stretch to

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start his career was probably the best ten years of

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any clean player.

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Speaker 1: It's better than Trout.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, for those ten years. Well, Trout makes up

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for it defensively, because pool Holes is a non important

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defensive position. Dude, first base is very important, scooping, it's

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not the same as center field.

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Speaker 1: First base is very important. Is most players are to.

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Speaker 2: First base, which is not as important as.

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Speaker 1: Get out of my face, you stupid dad a boy,

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all right, I'm an eye test guy only.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, that's why Willie May has played first base.

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Speaker 1: God damn it, dude, it doesn't matter. Most players are

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the first base It's very important to have a good

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for defensive first baseman. I don't disagree, but to bail

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like a bunch of like bad throws out.

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Speaker 2: Dog, It's not that hard. Bryce Harper just walked over

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there and started playing it.

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Speaker 1: Because Bryce Harper is an elite athlete.

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Speaker 2: There's a whole plot point to Moneyball where they're just like, yeah, yeah,

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you Scott hadiberg Yehobo, go play first base. He's like,

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I'm not a first base Like, it doesn't matter, doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: Whatever you say, whatever fucking fantasy you want to live in.

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Speaker 2: All right. Burg after graduating from Beharnger enrolls at NYU,

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spends two semesters there playing baseball and basketball. So he

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is a D one two sport athlete.

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Speaker 1: That's it. Everyone then played like nine sports.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he was interested in football.

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Speaker 1: No track.

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Speaker 2: He definitely was not a track I mean, maybe he

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could a shot put or something, but he wasn't a

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runner for sure. A cross maybe, But in nineteen nineteen,

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Burg transferred to Princeton University and for the rest of

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his life never brought up going to NYU again. He

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was like, now, I went to Prinson. Yeah, yeah, I'm

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a prince man. I went to prison, Like would you

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I thought freshman year, No, I went to prison.

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Speaker 1: I mean Princeton then, do was more established I suppose

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in sports very much?

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Speaker 2: So oh yeah, I don't even think it was from

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a sports perspective that he was like that. But yes,

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they were winning national national titles. Yeah, like in everything.

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They're football, for sure, but I'm sure they're winning base

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whatever the baseball championship was and whatever else. I don't

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even know if basketball was happening yet. I guess it was.

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But Naysmith he like, literally, he's coaching at KU at

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that point. So Berg was, among other things being a

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great athlete and stuff like that, also insanely intelligent. He

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graduated magna cumlade with a BA in Modern Languages.

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Speaker 1: But if you want to know something funny, what my

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dad went to my college graduation, and I guess told

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my mom, like, man, that's a really big family. They

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just keep saying that word over and over again. That

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family name not college educated obviously, but he's like, man,

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that what is it? The Magnukamade family? That was good lord,

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they're fucking massive.

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Speaker 2: Here, Italian's all over the Discovery, So shouts.

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Speaker 1: To the old man waterman Dan. I love that.

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Speaker 2: He studied seven languages, and he could speak even more

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languages than this, I believe. But he studied Latin, Greek, French, Spanish, Italian, German,

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and Sanskrit useless, and I believe he also ended up

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learning Japanese as well. But I'll get to that. So

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because he served, no, we'll get to it. We'll get

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to it. So even though he was at Princeton and

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he was an athlete and a good student, he was

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kind of always on the outside of the social scene

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because he was not rich to have a middle class pharmacist,

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and he was Jewish, so he kind of didn't didn't

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quite become super popular there, I guess. But he played

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first base at Princeton on an undefeated Princeton team, and

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then sophomore year they moved him to short. He wasn't

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a good hitter, wasn't a good base runner. But defense,

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first defense.

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Speaker 1: First guy at short said, not a good hitter, useless,

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he's a def he was not, you know, he wasn't

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a bat. Put him at second. Then you can have a.

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Speaker 2: Short stop hitting oak, hitting under three hundred.

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Speaker 1: I don't like that. I need my shortstop to get

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on bass.

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Speaker 2: You need your shortstop to make plays.

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Speaker 1: Defensively, Yeah, he's gotta be the honestly best defender, probably

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on the team, easily, most athletic at least, But I

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would like my fucking shortstop to just Yeah. Yeah, everybody

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was weak, went through the hole, and they and steal

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some basses.

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Speaker 2: I agree with that.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't have to be a power guy.

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Speaker 2: No, you don't prefer power. You don't need a rod. No, there,

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Trey Turner is fine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Tray Turner is perfect. Yeah you're talking about that.

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Sounded like quite backhanded compliment.

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Speaker 2: No, peak, Trey Turner helped win me a fantasy baseball league. Whatever.

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Trey Turner in his prime, well past, tell.

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Speaker 1: Me more about your fantasy baseball team.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, Trey Turner puts up numbers. He does

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everything you want. He gets on base, he steals bases,

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he hits home runs, great glove, great glove, the best

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slider in the game. Yeah, I mean, my god. But

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even though he didn't, he wasn't much of a bat

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at first. Berg did grow into it. He hit three

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thirty seven his senior year when he was captain of

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the team and he hit six' eleven Against princeton's arch

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Rivals Harvard.

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Speaker 1: Yale, okay so when it, Mattered, yeah he was a clutch.

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Speaker 2: Hitter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah and because this is THE Ivy league we're talking,

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about when they were playing, teams probably Not harvard And

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yale because they might have picked up on, this but

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when they were playing other, teams maybe When rutgers came to, town

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they would him and the second basement would communicate plays

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to each other In. Latin, why just so they wouldn't

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get their fucking signs. Stolen. YEAH i guess it's a

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little try.

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Speaker 2: Hard for. Me It's princeton in nineteen nineteen or, whatever.

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Speaker 1: Whatever it's still a little much fair. Enough but if

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you go To Catholic mass and you're on the other,

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team you probably know what they're saying.

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Speaker 2: You, yeah if there's A catholic on, base he's gonna

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pick it.

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Speaker 1: Up, Yeah so quite a hole in their. Logic On

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june twenty, sixth nineteen twenty, Three princeton Played yale At

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Yankee stadium for The championship of The Big, three WHICH

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i believe is just damn. Dude Ice Cube time. Traveling,

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yeah that was his first. League he brought it.

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Speaker 2: Back it, was you, know just a championship Between, Princeton,

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yale And. Harvard just who kind of wins this season.

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Series yale did Beat princeton five to. One But berg

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had a good. Day he had two, hits he was

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two for, four had a single in a, double and

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he made a couple dazzling plays at.

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Speaker 1: Shortstop do we have any? Footage, no absolutely. NOT i

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don't even know if we have a. Drawing it'd be

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very funny if we had footage of that and Not

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wilt's one hundred point in?

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Speaker 2: It Would they probably cared more about that than basketball

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the forty years, later like AN Ivy league baseball.

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Speaker 1: Game there's so many colleges that are now irrelevant that

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were everything back.

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Speaker 2: Then everything, well just the Whole East, coast The northeast of. Sports,

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yeah for college. Sports rutgers, First Natty rutgers.

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Speaker 1: Football always remember eighteen sixty.

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Speaker 2: Nine, Yep, so since this game was At Yankee stadium

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and it was between two big, schools The New York

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giants and The Brooklyn robbins aka The Brooklyn.

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Speaker 1: Dodgers just stuck with The robins it's. Nice it's. PLEASANT

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i don't hate.

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Speaker 2: It they were there kind of.

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Speaker 1: Scouting, actually Every Major League baseball team should be named

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after a.

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Speaker 2: BIRD i like the. Bird give me thirty different. BIRDS

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i like the bird. Teams we should have a bird. League, okay,

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YEAH i.

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Speaker 1: Could we could do. It there's thirty different types.

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Speaker 2: Birds he got, hawks, Falcons, orioles. Orioles, yeah picking names

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that aren't in THE mr right? Now, yeah Blue. Jays

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how many bird teams? Are?

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Speaker 1: Are like Five, cardinals Blue Jays? Orioles oh, shit just.

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Three i've only recently picked up baseball again.

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Speaker 2: Again but you grew up in. Baseball not like the

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teams have changed that.

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Speaker 1: Much just The. Nationals, Really, yeah it's the last time

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you paid attention or rep did The?

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Speaker 2: Expos, yeah, WHICH i don't know why they want to

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put a team back In montreal like you and me

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as people that grew up WATCHING Nl east, teams like

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remember that that stadium was empty. CONSTANTLY i don't.

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Speaker 1: Know have you seen The expo? Documentary, NO i didn't watch. It.

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Now they used to care when they were, good when

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they were. Stacked in, fact the year that they had the,

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strike they probably would have won The World.

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Speaker 2: Series, oh The braids would have come back and won that.

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Division they were never gonna make the.

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Speaker 1: Play expos were gonna win The World.

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Speaker 2: SERIES i think they Had randy And pedro on the staff. Too,

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YEAH i think very Young, vlad BUT i think they Head.

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Lad they Had Larry walker, also or no they, didn't they.

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DIDN'T i just remember it was a stacked.

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Speaker 1: Team, YEA i was good. Duck, Yeah i'll watch it

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at some.

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Speaker 2: Point so these teams wanted to get A jewish guy

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on their, team, okay because they wanted to appeal to

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The it was representation, matters, basically like there's a Huge

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jewish population In New. York to sell tickets and to

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get more interests from The jewish. POPULATION dei back, then

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they wanted to get A jewish player on the. Team, yeah, literally,

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Yes so they expressed interest In, berg who had a

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good game and his senior year was captain and he

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did become a good college. Player so The giants were really,

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interested but they already were stacked at. Shortstop The robins

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aka The dodgers weren't very good and they were not

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stacked at. Shortstop so they Offered berg a contract and

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he signed for five thousand, dollars which is ninety two grand.

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Today And berg played his first game for The robins

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a month, later On june twenty, seventh nineteen twenty. Three

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he was in the.

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Speaker 1: Bigs, YEAH i don't think there was much of a

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process to work your way. Up. NO i was, like all,

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right are you better than the guy that also does

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a shift as a.

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Speaker 2: Milkman this is around the time, too when farm, systems

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the farm system is being. Developed Branch rickey's with The

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cardinals at this, point and he's the first person to

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do minor.

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Speaker 1: League you, also financially just can't only be a minor

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league baseball, player certainly not back. Then, no.

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Speaker 2: So he takes, this what do you?

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Speaker 1: Do what is a child's?

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Speaker 2: Game, yeah gro, sir get back get to the.

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Speaker 1: Mills, yeah get back in the, mill you, Child Peter,

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pan go back to the. Mines so his first game

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is against The. Phillies we've been around for a long. Time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah he came in at the start of the, set

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uh subbing in a shortstop and The dodgers were already The,

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Robins dodgers, Whatever they're up thirteen to. Four Uh berg

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had five plays at short caught a line drive to

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start a game ending double. Play he was one for,

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two scored a. Run nice little start to the. Career

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they win or, lose they.

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Speaker 1: WON i think you intentionally added that that note to

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take a shot at. Name seems like it seems like

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you just really wanted to needle me With, Oh phillies.

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Speaker 2: Lost, yeah The phillies lost a random game in nineteen twenty.

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Three eat.

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Speaker 1: It i'm so. Upset eat, it. BITCH i think we

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do have the most losses in professional sports. History.

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Speaker 2: YEAH i, mean you, know he's been around for over

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one hundred years and they play one hundred and phil

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happened games a year For.

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Speaker 1: Yeah i'm also just going to Claim Oakland athletic or

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whatever they, are The. Athletics they're just a team without a.

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City they're. Championships Take, phillies they're The.

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Speaker 2: PHILADELPHIA'S i claimed The Atlanta hawks for, say they won

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a championship At Saint, Loui so count.

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Speaker 1: It, yeah if it happened in my, city it counts

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in my.

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Speaker 2: City so for the, Season berg wasn't, great, though he

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hit one eighty seven and made twenty one errors in

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forty seven. Games after the season was, over he went

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abroad To paris and hung out, there and for whatever,

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reason just because he was a, GENIUS i, guess took

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thirty two different classes at The, sorbonne which is like,

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There harvard or.

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Speaker 1: WHATEVER i couldn't tell you what that.

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Speaker 2: Is it's a very prestigious.

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Speaker 1: UNIVERSITY i am acting like my father when he went

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to my. Graduation you just said. SOMETHING i have no

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idea what it.

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Speaker 2: Was thought it was ice. Cream, oh a little sorbon Little.

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Speaker 1: Sorbonne, yeah it really cleanses the.

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Speaker 2: Palate, yeah, Oh i'd love A sorbonne after a bag,

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at just a nice pool of cool Sorbond after spring

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training rolls around the next year and they're, like, hey

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did you train this off Season and he was like,

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NAH i was In paris going to. School and they were, like,

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yeah we can tell.

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Speaker 1: You come back. Fat he just came back, shitty like

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he hadn't swung a bat since his last, game just

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a ton of bag. Gets.

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Speaker 2: Yeah so they're, like, okay well you are getting demoted

467
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to The Minneapolis millers And berg is, like, dude fuck

468
00:23:18,839 --> 00:23:19,559
this and back to The.

469
00:23:19,599 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 1: Mills.

470
00:23:20,039 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah he's about to quit. Baseball but by Mid,

471
00:23:22,799 --> 00:23:26,039
april he just sucks it up and reports for duty or.

472
00:23:26,079 --> 00:23:29,359
Whatever he crushes in the minor, leagues hits three point,

473
00:23:29,319 --> 00:23:34,640
thirty but kind of slumps and gets put back on the.

474
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,799
Bench he was lent to The toledo Mud hens and

475
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,799
became the starting shortstop there when they're current starting shortstops another, Bird,

476
00:23:45,039 --> 00:23:49,160
yeah Mud. Hens, yeah see that'd be so. Easy, yeah

477
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,400
the Mud hens needed a shortstop because their starter. Rabbit

478
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:58,079
hellgeth was he refused to pay a ten dollars fine

479
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,400
for poor play back when they used to find people

480
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,759
for playing like, shit bring that back, Right, yeah, dude

481
00:24:03,759 --> 00:24:09,440
you've gone to, like oh for Fifteen, YEAH i think

482
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,680
they do do, that like unofficially, still like if you

483
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,759
make like a base running, error you'll get fined by

484
00:24:14,799 --> 00:24:16,839
like the players will be like, you it's one hundred.

485
00:24:16,839 --> 00:24:17,799
Speaker 1: Dollars you have like a swear.

486
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 2: Jar, yeah it's The, yeah they do a lot of

487
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:20,519
teams to do poor.

488
00:24:20,319 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 1: Play jar just. Throwating, yeah this little thing at the

489
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,839
end of the. Season and, YEAH i guess the best

490
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,400
player statistically at the one end of the year gets

491
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,000
all the. Money, yeah that would be awesome that every

492
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,039
team that's the. Bonus every team should do that quarterback,

493
00:24:34,079 --> 00:24:39,079
play you throw an interception thousand. DOLLARS i, mean you

494
00:24:39,319 --> 00:24:42,759
can't make them scared to throw it for every touchdown you,

495
00:24:42,799 --> 00:24:48,400
know five thousand dollars bonus or every interception we dock fifteen, thousand,

496
00:24:48,839 --> 00:24:49,559
okay and it could.

497
00:24:49,599 --> 00:24:52,039
Speaker 2: Bounce that would be funny if they had in, contracts

498
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,680
like because you, know you hit a certain, number you get, bonuses,

499
00:24:54,759 --> 00:24:58,519
Right like you throw twenty touchdowns or hit twenty home,

500
00:24:58,599 --> 00:25:01,599
runs you get a. Bonus, yeah it'd be funny if

501
00:25:01,599 --> 00:25:03,680
they were, like, yeah twenty, interceptions.

502
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 1: You get a d. Bonus you actually.

503
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 2: Pay you're, penalized, yeah for throwing that many.

504
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 1: Played for free this year you're in the. Hole you

505
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,240
gotta resign our contract just to you almost like three

506
00:25:13,319 --> 00:25:13,960
years of. Labor.

507
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah so he plays because the other guy's, Like

508
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,359
i'm not paying this fucking. FINE a major league scout

509
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,079
was there for The dodgers to see if he had

510
00:25:23,079 --> 00:25:26,440
gotten any, better but they were, like, yeah, no all all,

511
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:31,640
glove no. Bat but by nineteen twenty, Five berg starting

512
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,119
to show promise as a hitter again in the minor,

513
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,240
leagues and The Chicago White sox exercised an option on

514
00:25:37,319 --> 00:25:41,119
him and picked him up for six, grand and he

515
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:46,359
went to The White. Sox, well you're twenty, six, okay

516
00:25:46,559 --> 00:25:47,720
nineteen twenty six.

517
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 1: A franchise in, turmoil even though it's been like almost a,

518
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:57,200
decade but probably still but still probably feeling the. Ramifications

519
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,599
The White sox have a pretty grim. History it's not

520
00:25:59,599 --> 00:26:03,559
a good. Organization this is an old. Organization, listen we're

521
00:26:03,599 --> 00:26:06,799
gonna talk about him uh on My patreon episode for

522
00:26:06,839 --> 00:26:07,200
a little.

523
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:11,559
Speaker 2: Bit The White Sox, yeah hell. Yeah So berg is, like,

524
00:26:11,599 --> 00:26:13,960
Yeah i'll play for, you But i'm not going to

525
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,799
spring training Cause i'm going To Columbia law. School and

526
00:26:17,839 --> 00:26:21,759
The White sox are, Like god damn, It so they

527
00:26:21,759 --> 00:26:25,279
have to sign another dude uh to play shortstop while

528
00:26:25,319 --> 00:26:28,960
he's at law, school And berg only plays in forty one.

529
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,839
Games he goes back To columbia the following, year and

530
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:36,000
The White sox Owner Charles kamiski is, LIKE i will

531
00:26:36,039 --> 00:26:37,400
give you more, Money.

532
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 1: Kimiski, Park, YEAH i will give you.

533
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 2: More money if you just skip law school for the

534
00:26:42,039 --> 00:26:46,400
love Of, god And berg is, like, Nah i'm gonna

535
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,279
be late for the nineteen twenty seven season going back

536
00:26:48,279 --> 00:26:50,839
to law. School, finally one of his professors is, like

537
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:55,000
oh my, God i'll talk to the dean and we'll

538
00:26:55,039 --> 00:26:56,440
make something work out where.

539
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,559
Speaker 1: You get an extra. Degree.

540
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 2: Yeah they're, like, well you can take extra classes in

541
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,880
the fall after the season's. Over go play, baseball you, Moron.

542
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 1: Yeah please just take classes when we don't have a. Season. Yeah,

543
00:27:09,039 --> 00:27:11,960
Reasonably like a professor steps, in it's, like what are you?

544
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:20,039
Speaker 2: Doing just go, play? Idiot, yeah so he goes to.

545
00:27:20,079 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: Play they paid off the, professor that's what it. Was.

546
00:27:22,079 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 2: Yeah comisky's just like calls. Him he's, like, LOOK i

547
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,839
NEED i need you to get this out Of. Alield

548
00:27:28,599 --> 00:27:29,880
so he's mostly still backing.

549
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 1: Up we had an athlete recently that has kind of

550
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:38,559
flirted with outside occupations other than. SPORTS i remember When

551
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,599
Josh brosen got. Drafted he was, Like i'm more interested

552
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:42,400
in like becoming a.

553
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:48,599
Speaker 2: Doctor, yeah so not counting like podcasting or anything like.

554
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,519
Speaker 1: That, yeah let's not count. Podcasts and that's something you

555
00:27:51,559 --> 00:27:54,400
can do while you. Play, yeah as is evident for

556
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:55,960
every other player having a.

557
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 2: PODCAST i think there was wasn't there A Florida state

558
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,720
player who like a cornerback who was really good who

559
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,680
but he was A rhodes. Scholar he wanted to become a.

560
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: Doctor probably that sounds.

561
00:28:04,319 --> 00:28:04,799
Speaker 2: RIGHT i think.

562
00:28:04,839 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 1: That i'm just trying to think of, like name, brands name.

563
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,240
VALUE i can't.

564
00:28:10,039 --> 00:28:12,559
Speaker 2: Think of anyone that, Big, okay because why would. You

565
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,880
there's no doctor on earth that makes as much money as.

566
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 1: As Andrew luck just quit football.

567
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 2: Early, yeah but he still works in.

568
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 1: Football he's A gm yeah For. Stanford BUT i think

569
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,079
he was trying to do other stuff before that and

570
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,759
then football always. Comes. Colin, yeah he.

571
00:28:28,799 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 2: Just didn't want to be in pain.

572
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,519
Speaker 1: Anymore, yeah no, pain no brain. Injuries got out.

573
00:28:33,559 --> 00:28:36,519
Speaker 2: EARLY i respect it to.

574
00:28:36,519 --> 00:28:38,599
Speaker 1: A, degree or you could just be Like Philip rivers

575
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,559
getting back out. There it for slinging.

576
00:28:40,559 --> 00:28:43,079
Speaker 2: IT i think he's in great, shape though he's chasing

577
00:28:43,079 --> 00:28:43,559
ten kids.

578
00:28:43,599 --> 00:28:46,839
Speaker 1: Around they were all in the press. Bus oh my.

579
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 2: God they needed to need two sweets for that. Family it's. Insane.

580
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:56,519
Yeah so In august The White, sox their entire catching

581
00:28:56,599 --> 00:28:58,799
core gets, hurt all three of. Them they have no,

582
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,640
like even their emergence catcher, out so they're, like, fuck

583
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:06,880
who do we? Use and they end up going With.

584
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,599
Burke they Moved berg to. Catcher he did a good

585
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,119
job filling in and, uh catcher?

586
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: Sucked what playing? It? YEAH i played catcher growing up

587
00:29:15,799 --> 00:29:18,079
my like entire. Youth it's the worst.

588
00:29:18,119 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 2: Position oh, yeah you get.

589
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: Abused everyone like blames you for things.

590
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,039
Speaker 2: Too what do you get blamed for not framing up

591
00:29:26,039 --> 00:29:26,839
with strike in fourth?

592
00:29:26,839 --> 00:29:29,319
Speaker 1: Grade? Essentially, yeah it's, like, dude you got to get

593
00:29:29,319 --> 00:29:30,759
a better. FRAME i don't, know, man it's a bad.

594
00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:32,319
Speaker 2: Pitch, yeah why do you want me to frame?

595
00:29:32,359 --> 00:29:35,759
Speaker 1: That that would like stopping pitches when it's you, know

596
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,200
fucking twelve year old's thrown in the. Dirt.

597
00:29:38,279 --> 00:29:41,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, also, like how do you frame a ball that's

598
00:29:41,079 --> 00:29:43,880
going forty miles an? Hour the umpire can see it

599
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,000
the entire. Time it's a fair.

600
00:29:47,039 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: Point, yeah it's.

601
00:29:48,799 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 2: Not it's not like a ninety five hour fastball where

602
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:52,920
it's LIKE i kind of saw.

603
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,799
Speaker 1: It made an entire meal between, yeah the release and

604
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:56,519
me catching.

605
00:29:56,559 --> 00:30:02,319
Speaker 2: IT i clocked that thing the whole. Way So berg fills.

606
00:30:02,319 --> 00:30:04,079
In but The White socks are, like all, right well

607
00:30:04,079 --> 00:30:06,839
we need a real. Catcher so, they, uh we're gonna

608
00:30:06,839 --> 00:30:10,400
get The phillies Catcher Frank, bruggy and he was gonna

609
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,400
catch for them against The New York. Yankees but The

610
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,000
White sox pitcher who was going for that, Day Ted,

611
00:30:16,079 --> 00:30:20,079
lyons was, Like i'm not pitching to. Him and they

612
00:30:20,079 --> 00:30:23,119
were like why and they were like he was, Like,

613
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:27,559
ted the pitcher was, like he's too. Fat i'm not

614
00:30:27,559 --> 00:30:28,279
pitching that fat.

615
00:30:28,319 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: Fuck the guy was too fat to be a, catcher.

616
00:30:31,119 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 2: According to the. Pitcher he was, Like i'm. Not he's

617
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,079
not gonna be my battery, mate that fat.

618
00:30:35,079 --> 00:30:37,759
Speaker 1: Fuck, yeah but he's gonna use his body to stop more.

619
00:30:37,799 --> 00:30:39,359
Speaker 2: Balls he didn't want. It he was, Like i'm not

620
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:40,119
throwing to. Fatty.

621
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,839
Speaker 1: Okay so in holding your teammates, ACCOUNTABLE i suppose.

622
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 2: Yeah so they're, like, well, okay who do you want to? Catch?

623
00:30:47,039 --> 00:30:48,000
Dude who do you want to be the?

624
00:30:48,039 --> 00:30:51,599
Speaker 1: Catcher he was Like, burke But, BERGIN i just think

625
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,680
like a bigger target would be nice visually to pitch.

626
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 2: Too apparently not for this. Guy and this is what's

627
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,759
really weird about it, too that he didn't want the fat.

628
00:31:00,759 --> 00:31:06,319
Speaker 1: Guy catchers were like notoriously fat for like fifty years

629
00:31:06,319 --> 00:31:09,119
in baseball. History that is the like, stereotype, right the

630
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,519
sloppy fat guy is the. Catcher, YEAH i mean Even

631
00:31:14,319 --> 00:31:15,319
john C riley's a.

632
00:31:15,359 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 2: Catcher that's the first one that came to mind in

633
00:31:19,079 --> 00:31:20,119
for the love of the. Game for the love of the,

634
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,319
game obviously you Have saan, lot the fat. Kids the

635
00:31:22,359 --> 00:31:24,960
catcher being a, catcher you should be. Fat, yeah that

636
00:31:25,119 --> 00:31:27,519
was a fat child playing. Catcher this is why it's

637
00:31:27,599 --> 00:31:34,839
especially odd this Pitcher. Lions he's a. Knuckleballer the ball's going. Everywhere,

638
00:31:35,119 --> 00:31:37,359
again you need to use that boy to shield. It,

639
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:38,400
yeah block the.

640
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: Ball you get a smaller, body that's gonna be more pass.

641
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 2: Balls so In berg's first game as a starting, catcher

642
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,759
did he have like twelve pass? Balls he's catching a.

643
00:31:48,799 --> 00:31:51,279
Knuckleballer and, NOW i don't know if you caught WHAT

644
00:31:51,359 --> 00:31:55,759
i said. Earlier it's nineteen twenty eight and they're playing The.

645
00:31:55,799 --> 00:32:03,240
Yankees murder shill, Yep Ruth gert the whole fucking T

646
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,279
they beat The yankees six to.

647
00:32:07,319 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: Three, wow it's all because of the game he called

648
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,400
as a Catch, yep they Held ruth hitless and wouldn't

649
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,000
make it in today's. Game, YEAH i guess.

650
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 2: Not, No i'm.

651
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,519
Speaker 1: Kidding Uh And.

652
00:32:21,519 --> 00:32:24,559
Speaker 2: Berg apparently made the defensive highlight of the game when

653
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,880
he caught a bad. THROW i don't know if it

654
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,720
was like up the line or whatever from the, outfield

655
00:32:29,079 --> 00:32:31,799
spun and, tugged tagged Out Joe duggan at the, Plate

656
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,039
Her dugan at the, plate and, yeah he caught eight

657
00:32:35,079 --> 00:32:40,839
more times and, uh finally to prepare for the next.

658
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:45,920
Season berg took it seriously and actually. Prepared do you

659
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:46,799
know how he trained in the.

660
00:32:46,839 --> 00:32:53,599
Speaker 1: OFFSEASON i imagine it wasn't? Weightlifting, no, No So i'm

661
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,920
trying to think of something physical but. Fun it was

662
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,720
he doing like a tight rope?

663
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,799
Speaker 2: Walking, no, no he was a lumberjack even better in

664
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:05,160
The Adirondack.

665
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: MOUNTAINS i guess he didn't want to practice law.

666
00:33:07,759 --> 00:33:10,519
Speaker 2: ANYMORE i you, KNOW i don't know like this, guy

667
00:33:10,559 --> 00:33:13,079
it becomes a theme later in, life like he can

668
00:33:13,119 --> 00:33:14,119
never decide what to.

669
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: DO i can relate with.

670
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,519
Speaker 2: That, yeah he just can't pick a.

671
00:33:18,599 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: Lane so many people in college were that.

672
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,039
Speaker 2: Way you have enough credit hours to, graduate but not

673
00:33:24,119 --> 00:33:28,160
enough credit hours in any like specific to. Graduate, yeah

674
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,279
like you've got two hundred credit hours but not enough

675
00:33:30,279 --> 00:33:31,960
in any lane to get, out.

676
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: And then they just give you inner disciplinary studies.

677
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,519
Speaker 2: Have put even the college at that point like please.

678
00:33:36,599 --> 00:33:39,319
Speaker 1: LEAVE i wonder if on resumes people see that and

679
00:33:39,319 --> 00:33:42,640
they're like oh, this this kid has no idea what he's.

680
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 2: Doing, YEAH i mean THEY i feel LIKE i never

681
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,000
even put my major on a.

682
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,839
Speaker 1: Resume you didn't put YOUR. Gpa, no, NO i never did.

683
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:53,119
Speaker 2: Either.

684
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:58,559
Speaker 1: No, ABSOLUTELY i certainly don't put my fucking education on

685
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,759
my resume at. All NOW i literally just PUT Ba.

686
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,079
Missouri it might, just, yeah be like one line.

687
00:34:04,799 --> 00:34:06,359
Speaker 2: Just in case somebody hiring went.

688
00:34:06,359 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: There nobody ever checks for like transcripts or Legitimate.

689
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,639
Speaker 2: Oh you could FUCKING i could Put harvard on.

690
00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 1: There. NOW i know you don't have to pay for college.

691
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,039
Kids you can just say you Went wait till you're thirty,

692
00:34:18,079 --> 00:34:20,800
one and then you could just start, saying, yeah you went. There,

693
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,000
no you can literally do it when you're fucking twenty.

694
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,079
Two that's. True they might, you but you're more likely

695
00:34:27,119 --> 00:34:29,639
to be asked at that, age unless you're like just

696
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:31,800
applying for marketing or some dumb. SHIT i worked FOR

697
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,960
nbc And Golf. Channel they didn't ask for, anything no,

698
00:34:35,119 --> 00:34:38,000
proof that's. Fair it was, like all, right we just

699
00:34:38,039 --> 00:34:38,679
take your word for.

700
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,119
Speaker 2: It, yeah why would you? Lie why would?

701
00:34:41,159 --> 00:34:44,760
Speaker 1: You? SO i think the move is to move to

702
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:49,880
a college, town hang out and maybe, work, right like

703
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:54,119
make a little money just doing a bullshit. Job do

704
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,519
hang out with your, boys have a good, time do

705
00:34:56,559 --> 00:34:59,000
all the college. Stuff maybe even join a fraternity on,

706
00:34:59,119 --> 00:35:03,079
below just, unofficially be like one of those unofficial. Ringer

707
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:04,760
jake said, that you, guys they had a bunch of

708
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,719
like community college kids in their. House we had a,

709
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,719
couple uh not for our specific, fraternity but we knew

710
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:15,199
fraterniteys that would pledge kids From. Valencia yeah AT ucf and,

711
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,960
yeah same. Thing but, honestly don't even need to go

712
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,760
to community. College just hang, out work, job work forty

713
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,800
hours a, week, party have a good. Time then when

714
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,000
you're twenty, two apply for real jobs and just say you. Graduated,

715
00:35:28,159 --> 00:35:29,159
yeah save yourself a bunch of.

716
00:35:29,199 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 2: Money it's not the worst. Idea it's. Not it's not

717
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:33,079
the worst.

718
00:35:33,119 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: Idea just. LIE i, mean people lie about their credentials

719
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:36,239
all the.

720
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 2: Time but the one thing you can't miss out on is.

721
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:44,760
Speaker 1: The, experience the college. Experience yeah, yeah, yeah classes taught me, nothing,

722
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:50,280
really very. Few any technical KNOWLEDGE i have with, cameras,

723
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,480
audio everything is all self. Taught this is all just

724
00:35:53,559 --> 00:35:54,480
trial and error or.

725
00:35:54,559 --> 00:36:00,039
Speaker 3: YouTube but you learned the, theory the. Philosophy sure it

726
00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:02,440
was a total, waste BUT i had a good. Time,

727
00:36:02,559 --> 00:36:05,039
yeah AND i got to play inter real sports, party

728
00:36:05,679 --> 00:36:05,920
go to.

729
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 2: Socials it's really just like a container where you can grow.

730
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: Up now it's on the. Consequences.

731
00:36:11,119 --> 00:36:15,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah it's a little play pen where you can

732
00:36:15,159 --> 00:36:17,440
fall down get like kind of, hurt but not. Really.

733
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,840
Yeah so by the end of the next, Season berg

734
00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:23,239
was the starting catcher for The White sox and he

735
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,480
was really. Good he Was he led THE al in

736
00:36:27,559 --> 00:36:30,039
caught stealing percentage with third in THE al and double

737
00:36:30,079 --> 00:36:32,400
plays by a catcher and was fifth in The American

738
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:33,440
league and assists by a.

739
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,639
Speaker 1: Catcher we was just talking about a goddamn baseball player

740
00:36:35,679 --> 00:36:37,719
on this. Episode there's gotta be some type of like

741
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:38,239
left turn.

742
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 2: Here, yep there.

743
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 1: Is but you're getting like really in the weeds with his.

744
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 2: Career so he he he does great and he becomes

745
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:49,920
a really really, solid uh defensive. Catcher like he becomes,

746
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,079
LIKE i don't, Know I'm alina.

747
00:36:51,159 --> 00:36:54,159
Speaker 1: Brother he got neck tats, TOO i.

748
00:36:55,280 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 2: Wish during The, winner he takes a job at A

749
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,079
Wall street law. Firm then he goes to The. Indians

750
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,400
he kind of his career falters in The indians kind

751
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:11,199
of let him. Go he keeps playing for a while

752
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:19,320
and he gets invited to tour do A mlb tour In,

753
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,960
japan AN Mlb All Star tour because they needed to

754
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:27,320
catch it in nineteen thirty. Four people that went Included Babe,

755
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:32,599
ruth lu Gerrig Jimmy, Fox Lefty, gomez and they're going

756
00:37:32,639 --> 00:37:35,679
to play against The Japanese All Star team. Whatever on

757
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,840
nineteen thirty, four while the rest of the team was,

758
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:44,760
Playing berg went To Saint Luke's hospital Into sukiji and

759
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:46,880
said he was going to visit the daughter of The

760
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,039
american ambassador who was in the. Hospital but he got

761
00:37:50,039 --> 00:37:52,039
there and immediately went to the roof of the, hospital

762
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,719
which was one of the tallest buildings In, tokyo and

763
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:59,719
filmed the entire port with his movie camera in nineteen thirty, four.

764
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: It's a cinema file. Himself or.

765
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 2: He knows that war is. Coming, oh he's always spying

766
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,880
on The. Japanese, yeah it's nineteen thirty. Four The japanese

767
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,880
are balls deep In china. Already, yeah they're Bucking, yeah The.

768
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,920
Empire we have The philippines right. There he's a smart.

769
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,079
GUY i think he knows that war is, imminent and he's,

770
00:38:22,119 --> 00:38:25,000
like you, know this is pre. Satellites can't he get

771
00:38:25,079 --> 00:38:25,840
hired by THE us?

772
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,760
Speaker 1: Government will happen? Well or is he just doing this

773
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,719
this as a citizen of the.

774
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:36,119
Speaker 2: World this he's doing. Freelance but when The japanese do

775
00:38:36,199 --> 00:38:37,639
Hit Pearl, harbor and but you also.

776
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:41,079
Speaker 1: Get the sweet trip To, Japan, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

777
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,800
we you, know don't have any beef with them at that.

778
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,800
Point you have a good time.

779
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,280
Speaker 2: Of open, beef but we know that beef is, broiler

780
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:48,880
there's simmer.

781
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: Intention.

782
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 2: Yeah So japan Hits Pearl Harbor december, seventh nineteen forty,

783
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,079
one and, hey that'll live in.

784
00:38:56,159 --> 00:39:01,519
Speaker 1: Infamy berg accepts a position With Nelson Rocker's office of

785
00:39:01,599 --> 00:39:03,199
THE i thought you're gonna say the Milk.

786
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 2: Boys, no, no. No he accepts a position With rockefeller

787
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,719
in The office of The coordinator Of Inter American. Affairs

788
00:39:14,199 --> 00:39:18,039
so he immediately once he's, working it's he's in intelligence

789
00:39:18,079 --> 00:39:20,840
at this. Point so he immediately gives them his footage

790
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,960
Of Tokyo, bay turns it over so now.

791
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:29,519
Speaker 1: They so was he kind of positioning himself for, this

792
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,639
like he was all about becoming a.

793
00:39:32,639 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 2: SPY i think he shot that stuff because he thought

794
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,119
it would be useful, eventually or he shot.

795
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: It as a hobby and then was, like, oh this

796
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:41,360
is actually.

797
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,119
Speaker 2: Interesting, yeah it could be either work because he's a weird.

798
00:39:44,159 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 1: Guy they're up to, something he's.

799
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:50,199
Speaker 2: Yeah so he becomes an intelligence agent and his first

800
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,239
job is to go to The caribbean In South america

801
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,800
to under the auspice of monitoring the health and fitness

802
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,880
Of american troops that were stationed, There but really he

803
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:03,079
was there to suss out just how uh how much

804
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,679
The South americans liked The nazis and how much The

805
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:10,000
nazis were entrenched In South. America he comes back and he's,

806
00:40:10,039 --> 00:40:13,639
like we're. Good they're not gonna get over. There we're,

807
00:40:13,679 --> 00:40:16,119
fine and they're not really into. Him then he joins THE,

808
00:40:16,159 --> 00:40:21,639
oss which is the precursor to THE cia in Their

809
00:40:21,679 --> 00:40:28,360
Special operations. Branch he runs The Yugoslavia desk for THE,

810
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:33,599
oss organizing guerrilla warfare And, yugoslavia making sure they get, weapons,

811
00:40:33,639 --> 00:40:36,280
shipments all this type of, stuff.

812
00:40:38,159 --> 00:40:41,119
Speaker 1: Maybe causing problems down the. Line do you have In?

813
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:42,480
YUGOSLAVIA a little?

814
00:40:42,559 --> 00:40:44,599
Speaker 2: Later you, know who knows What moburg.

815
00:40:44,679 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 1: Did he's single handedly responsible for everything that happened in The.

816
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,559
Speaker 2: Balkans, yeah, yeah and he. Helped he helped like recruit

817
00:40:52,599 --> 00:40:55,760
and Prepare Slavak americans to get dropped in and help

818
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,800
lead resistance efforts In.

819
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: Yugoslavia want to blame The bosnian genocide on this guy

820
00:41:05,079 --> 00:41:08,119
on Mo? Burg, yeah a glove first catcher for the

821
00:41:08,119 --> 00:41:12,039
white sox mm hmm, okay like his, actions the butterfly

822
00:41:12,079 --> 00:41:16,639
effect ends up being the reason why The serbs just

823
00:41:16,679 --> 00:41:18,079
go in and try to wipe.

824
00:41:18,159 --> 00:41:21,079
Speaker 2: Everything but Without, berg maybe we don't have a joke

825
00:41:21,519 --> 00:41:29,039
and A. Djokovic two goats lost. Forever They're, serbs though they're, Fine,

826
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,679
like maybe they don't get as, POWERFUL i, Guess.

827
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:36,199
Speaker 1: Yeah there would have been A bosnian. Equal yeah that

828
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:37,360
got wiped out otherwise.

829
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 2: Exactly, yeah they never made it out of the out

830
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:45,400
of their own country's. League so in forty three he's,

831
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,960
Like i'm tired of being a desk. JOCKEY i want

832
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:53,199
to do something. Real so he's assigned To Project, larsen which.

833
00:41:54,519 --> 00:41:54,599
Speaker 1: He.

834
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,079
Speaker 2: Is the mission is to Kidnap italian rocket and missile

835
00:41:58,079 --> 00:42:02,360
specialists and bring them to THE. Us why do we Want?

836
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 1: Italians there was a couple guys WHO i guess were

837
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,679
okay at? It, Uh and they All italian rocket.

838
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 2: Specialists, yeah there was one guy in. Particular how's their space? Program?

839
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,599
Look they were it doesn't exist because we stole. Them,

840
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,719
YEAH i guess, so, yeah we got it off the.

841
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,119
Ground the other reason they wanted.

842
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 1: Them, look we took The nazi. Scientist that makes, sense

843
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,280
but we don't want The. Italians The italians are lazy as.

844
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 2: Fuck, well we guess you got to cover all your,

845
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,400
bases all, right even if they're. Useless you'd rather find that,

846
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:31,920
out and then you're just.

847
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,519
Speaker 1: Kind of let them go in your, COUNTRY i.

848
00:42:34,519 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 2: Suppose, yeah then let The soviets take them in case

849
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:38,119
they're not.

850
00:42:38,199 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: Used you cass a whide, net all. Right, so but

851
00:42:42,079 --> 00:42:44,280
of like the axis, powers The italians just.

852
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:50,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, useless absolutely. Useless they also wanted to like essentially

853
00:42:50,599 --> 00:42:54,440
Interview italian physicists to figure out how close The germans

854
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:55,719
And heisenberg were to a.

855
00:42:55,760 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: Bomb, well Z oppenheimer taught us he was saying aboutage in.

856
00:43:00,559 --> 00:43:05,079
Speaker 2: Himself heisenberg, was, yeah but they didn't. Know we didn't know,

857
00:43:05,119 --> 00:43:07,159
This it's. Fair so we needed to get as much

858
00:43:07,159 --> 00:43:09,519
info we could about the. BOMB i actually don't even

859
00:43:09,519 --> 00:43:09,880
know if that's.

860
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,079
Speaker 1: Legitimate it's a good movie point, Though, yeah a little

861
00:43:13,119 --> 00:43:13,599
plot point.

862
00:43:13,639 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 2: There in forty, Four berg heads For. Europe he's mostly

863
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,280
there to interview physicists and try to convince several to

864
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,800
Leave europe and work in The United, states possibly on

865
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:31,840
The Manhattan. Project In, november THE oss gets word That

866
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:38,920
heisenberg is going To, Zurich switzerland to give a. Lecture

867
00:43:40,519 --> 00:43:41,760
they Get burg a ticket to the.

868
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 1: Lecture zurch doesn't really get talked about enough as like

869
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:50,599
an elite, city beautiful. Country. Switzerland, yeah, heard it's.

870
00:43:50,639 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 2: AMAZING i feel like it's one of those countries, though

871
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,400
where you, know most times you, travel even when you

872
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,880
go to Like New zealand or, something, like your money goes.

873
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,559
Speaker 1: Further, yeah but you go To switzerland and it goes. Nowhere.

874
00:44:00,679 --> 00:44:03,639
Yeah it's, like uh, yeah all the banks are, here bud,

875
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,800
yeah dollar here. Strong.

876
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,280
Speaker 2: Yeah that coffee is Fifty american. Shit, fuck god damn.

877
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,199
It these mountains beautiful fuck fuck.

878
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,119
Speaker 1: Fuck it must be how Like australians Or canadians feel

879
00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:16,159
when they come over here with their.

880
00:44:16,199 --> 00:44:18,119
Speaker 2: MONEY i, mean that's how They're they're all pissing their

881
00:44:18,119 --> 00:44:21,559
pants About World cup. Prices it's, like, yeah, dude you live.

882
00:44:21,559 --> 00:44:24,960
It it's being held in a, humongous rich country that's

883
00:44:25,039 --> 00:44:25,679
easy to get.

884
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 1: To mm. Hm World cup though it's between three. Countries,

885
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,719
yeah so maybe they're going To. MEXICO i would, say

886
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,199
if you want a, discount go To, mexico. ASSHOLE i

887
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:38,199
don't know what to tell you. Pay So, yeah what's

888
00:44:38,199 --> 00:44:40,840
crazy too is that's these prices and they're all being

889
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,159
held in humongous.

890
00:44:42,199 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 2: Stadiums we have the.

891
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,119
Speaker 1: INFRASTRUCTURE i don't know why we should just host Everythingle,

892
00:44:46,119 --> 00:44:50,559
one THE, Us, japan Anybody england that already has these

893
00:44:50,599 --> 00:44:52,599
like stadiums that are pre, made they should host Every,

894
00:44:52,639 --> 00:44:55,920
olympics Every World, cup because then you put them in

895
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,239
these other countries and they have to spend billions of

896
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,480
dollars in infrastructure that they end up ever use.

897
00:45:00,519 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 2: In, yeah guitar using. Slaves brazil just lets a thousand

898
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,360
people starve a day or something.

899
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,079
Speaker 1: Like it's it's. Insane, YEAH i, mean if you those

900
00:45:08,079 --> 00:45:10,199
are some of my favorite. Photos though we wouldn't have

901
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,280
those photos if it wasn't for Like brazil building this

902
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,880
world class stadium that they leave empty for the next.

903
00:45:17,039 --> 00:45:20,199
Speaker 2: Decade oh they it just it looks, like, uh it returned,

904
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,039
legend it returns to the. Jungle it. Does, yeah those

905
00:45:23,039 --> 00:45:25,559
are sweet. Photos like as soon as soon as it's,

906
00:45:25,599 --> 00:45:30,360
over the jungle just eats. It so he goes To

907
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:34,920
zurich and he his whole point at that lecture is

908
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:40,400
he needs to sit, there listen To heisenberg and see

909
00:45:41,159 --> 00:45:44,119
how close The germans are to a. Bomb Now berg

910
00:45:44,199 --> 00:45:46,159
is an incredibly intelligent, man so, like if you pick

911
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:50,159
up on, anything you, know if you think that The

912
00:45:50,199 --> 00:45:51,880
germans are getting close to a bomb from what you

913
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,840
hear From heisenberg on this, lecture here's a gun and

914
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:56,599
you're gonna shoot.

915
00:45:56,639 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: Him, okay so he's gonna be an. Assassin.

916
00:45:59,039 --> 00:46:02,119
Speaker 2: Yeah they were, like if you Think, heisenberg If heisenberg

917
00:46:02,159 --> 00:46:04,960
drops even the weirdest blink when he talks about the,

918
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,519
bomb get him alone and put a bullet in his fucking. Head.

919
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:14,920
Okay So berg attends the lecture and he listens to

920
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:16,280
What heisenberg says.

921
00:46:16,599 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: And he realizes he has nothing, yep and he doesn't

922
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:24,159
kill him or that was a little self preservation on his.

923
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,079
Speaker 2: PART i kind of wondered that, Too because he.

924
00:46:27,119 --> 00:46:28,519
Speaker 1: Kills, heisenberg he's gonna die.

925
00:46:28,559 --> 00:46:30,639
Speaker 2: Too, well they're In, switzerland so he'll just get.

926
00:46:30,679 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: Arrested you gotta Imagine. Heisenberg he probably has didn't come.

927
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:39,000
Alone some, guards, yeah some. Protection, yeah so he takes that.

928
00:46:39,079 --> 00:46:39,960
Shot he's getting taken.

929
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:45,079
Speaker 2: Out, yeah there's a very good. Chance berg is then

930
00:46:45,119 --> 00:46:48,719
sent To italy to Persuade Antonio, feri who was the

931
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,199
head of the supersonic research program For, italy to come

932
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,480
to The United states and work on supersonic. Aircraft this

933
00:46:54,519 --> 00:46:59,199
is on direct orders FROM. Fdr, okay he gets, Him

934
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,000
he TURNS fa brings him to THE us to work

935
00:47:02,039 --> 00:47:02,840
on our supersonic.

936
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 1: Planes turn And ferry has multiple.

937
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:13,119
Speaker 2: Meanings, yeah yeah it. Does but he turned them too

938
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:17,960
into a patriot because, really what's the? Pitch? Though the

939
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,079
pitch is, like do you want to live In? Russia

940
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,159
we're here because The russians aren't gonna, ask.

941
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,599
Speaker 1: So do you think that's the same question they had To.

942
00:47:28,639 --> 00:47:35,119
SNOWDEN i, mean it's just it just seems Like operation Paper.

943
00:47:35,119 --> 00:47:38,280
Clip it would just be the easiest sales pitch of all.

944
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 2: Time like have you seen pictures Of? America have you

945
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,320
seen pictures of The Soviet? Union you're gonna go to

946
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,760
one of those two, places which would.

947
00:47:46,559 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 1: You prefer Classic western. Propaganda, Yeah i'm Saying Joseph stalm

948
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:52,400
was a bad.

949
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,559
Speaker 2: MAN i don't. Believe then they just get to The Soviet,

950
00:47:54,639 --> 00:47:56,960
Union they're, like oh, god everything was actually. Correct oh

951
00:47:57,039 --> 00:47:57,599
fuck fuck.

952
00:47:57,679 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: Fuck recently, though there's a lot of fun people on

953
00:48:00,519 --> 00:48:03,000
the left that are like really into communism that just

954
00:48:03,679 --> 00:48:07,159
pump Up Joey, Yeah i'm, sure and pump up The Soviet.

955
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,599
Speaker 2: Union, yeah it's. All it's all just because they were

956
00:48:09,639 --> 00:48:12,000
part Of World war, Two, like so you we were

957
00:48:12,039 --> 00:48:12,519
awesome and.

958
00:48:12,599 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: Tough. Listen they played a vital role and helped us

959
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,119
win the. War but they are not the reason we

960
00:48:19,159 --> 00:48:21,360
won the. War, no they just threw. Bodies they just

961
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,599
Threw BUT i will Remember stalingrad for THE i, will you,

962
00:48:24,599 --> 00:48:29,320
know tip my cap for their contribution for basically like

963
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,719
for just being a meat. Grinder, yeah like they just

964
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:33,559
distracted The.

965
00:48:33,599 --> 00:48:36,559
Speaker 2: Germans essentially classic.

966
00:48:36,679 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: Mistake ALTHOUGH i don't think they're Gonna, yeah Like i've

967
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,239
said many, times and they're not gonna do to The

968
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,360
germans what they did if we're not a giving them

969
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:47,159
stuff and we're not being more importantly destroying every Fucking

970
00:48:47,199 --> 00:48:50,679
german factory on the face of the. Earth, yeah so you're.

971
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:55,119
Welcome hitler might have succeeded Invading russia in the, Winter, yeah.

972
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:56,679
Speaker 2: If they could still make enough.

973
00:48:56,679 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 1: Tanks turns out we cut that supply. Line.

974
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:06,199
Speaker 2: Yep so after he Gets After berg Gets fairy to

975
00:49:07,159 --> 00:49:10,280
immigrate to The United, States roosevelt, COMMENTED i see that

976
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,280
mo bug is still catching very.

977
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: WELL i don't know if there's many people that have

978
00:49:14,679 --> 00:49:16,800
transitioned from shortstop to catcher.

979
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 2: More than you would. Think, ACTUALLY i think.

980
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 1: It's like once your knees, go, yeah we're gonna put

981
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:25,800
you in a position where your knees are gonna get.

982
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 2: Worse, well it's more of the type of. THING a

983
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,800
lot of dudes with like big arms at, shortstop but

984
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,920
maybe like not great. Range if they don't if they

985
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:36,639
can't move to, third they'll like move him to catcher

986
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,440
or first. Gotcha but at first base is obviously a

987
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:39,840
wast of the.

988
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,679
Speaker 1: Arm it's just another shot at first.

989
00:49:43,679 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 2: Base Bryce harper literally plays first base because he can't fucking. Throw,

990
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,280
yeah but he can. Scoop i'm just saying that you

991
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:50,760
don't throw the ball out at first.

992
00:49:50,519 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 1: Base it just seems like you're trying to take as

993
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,360
many Shots Bryce harper as. Possible i'm, Not i'm, not

994
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,159
And i'm just not gonna stand for. It all.

995
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 2: RIGHT i Think Bryce harper is a very fine, player very,

996
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:07,519
fine very fine, sure certainly top ten of his. Era

997
00:50:11,679 --> 00:50:13,079
just just go on BEFORE i punch.

998
00:50:13,119 --> 00:50:17,039
Speaker 1: You in nineteen fifty, one after The, War berg begged

999
00:50:17,039 --> 00:50:20,159
THE cia to let him go.

1000
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:25,599
Speaker 2: To israel to work. There oh, no but they denied his.

1001
00:50:25,639 --> 00:50:28,760
Request in fifty, two he was hired by THE cia

1002
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,159
to Use World WAR ii contacts to get information on

1003
00:50:31,199 --> 00:50:33,239
The soviet atomic bomb, project.

1004
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,039
Speaker 1: Where he was denied By.

1005
00:50:34,159 --> 00:50:36,519
Speaker 2: Israel, no he's noted by THE, us like we're not sending.

1006
00:50:36,519 --> 00:50:39,519
Speaker 1: Either, okay so maybe he was trying to work on

1007
00:50:39,559 --> 00:50:40,000
behalf Of.

1008
00:50:40,039 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 2: Israel, Yeah so but he does get he does get

1009
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,559
hired to go spy on The soviets and they give

1010
00:50:45,639 --> 00:50:50,800
him ten grand plus, expenses And berg just it's like

1011
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:55,000
spring training all over. Again he just doesn't come back kind.

1012
00:50:55,079 --> 00:50:57,559
Of he doesn't like go to The. Soviets he just

1013
00:50:57,559 --> 00:50:58,800
goes To europe and does. Nothing.

1014
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 1: Does he go on like a nice little vacation.

1015
00:51:01,559 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 2: Basically and THE cia officer who was like in charge of,

1016
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,960
him was, like, yeah he's real, flaky And i'm Sure

1017
00:51:09,039 --> 00:51:12,840
Charles kamiski was, like, YEAH i fucking, KNOW i could

1018
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:13,760
have told you that.

1019
00:51:14,599 --> 00:51:16,039
Speaker 1: He goes to the beat of his own. Drum.

1020
00:51:16,159 --> 00:51:19,519
Speaker 2: Yeah for the next twenty, Years berg had no real, job,

1021
00:51:21,559 --> 00:51:22,400
dude much.

1022
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:28,679
Speaker 1: Respect did he just kind of like figure out loopholes

1023
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,719
in his time and intelligence to fund his.

1024
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 2: Retirement, nope he just lived off friends and family who

1025
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,239
go to couch the couch, yep who put up with

1026
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,599
him because he was charming and. Smart it's not like

1027
00:51:39,639 --> 00:51:42,199
he made a ton of money in baseball, Then, No

1028
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,960
i'm not live off of. Him, no not general generational

1029
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:46,239
wealth or.

1030
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: Anything he lived with his Brother samuel for seventeen, years

1031
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:50,760
never got.

1032
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 2: Married samuel said that he was just like moody and

1033
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,280
bored after the. War like he'd been a professional baseball

1034
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,440
player and a spy In World war. Two life was

1035
00:52:00,519 --> 00:52:03,400
kind of just dull as shit at this.

1036
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:08,039
Speaker 1: Point, YEAH i mean the highest of high's most intense

1037
00:52:08,079 --> 00:52:12,199
adrenaline pump in situations you get yourself in and he's.

1038
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,199
Speaker 2: Literally catching a knuckleballer While Babe ruth And luke garrig

1039
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,840
are at the. Plate he's sent To switzerland to murder

1040
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,119
a guy working on the atomic.

1041
00:52:19,159 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: Bomb he's spying on both enemies and technically. Allies what

1042
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:25,760
do you there's.

1043
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 2: Nothing you have literally, peaked there's no there's nothing else to. Do,

1044
00:52:31,119 --> 00:52:33,440
see he just spends the rest of his life essentially

1045
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:38,679
like reading. Books his family's, like will you get a,

1046
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:39,719
job and he's just like reading.

1047
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 1: BOOKS i mean that's, why like so many veterans and

1048
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:46,039
a lot of former professional, athletes they kind of get

1049
00:52:46,079 --> 00:52:49,639
into this quarter, life midlife crisis once their career is

1050
00:52:49,679 --> 00:52:55,000
over because they've been in these like high pressure situations

1051
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,360
and now life is just so. Dull they're not working

1052
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,559
towards any like immediate goal and, yeah the adrenaline will

1053
00:53:01,559 --> 00:53:02,000
never be the.

1054
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 2: Same they're not on a team. Anymore, yeah that really

1055
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:06,760
removes a.

1056
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 1: Lot but granted he's, intelligence he's probably alone a.

1057
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 2: Lot, yeah, yeah, yeah AND i think he is kind

1058
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,440
of a lot like he likes being alone a little

1059
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:19,719
bit from WHAT i could. Tell he did receive a

1060
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,440
couple votes for The hall Of. Fame didn't get, in

1061
00:53:22,519 --> 00:53:27,960
but receive, votes and some people at one point were

1062
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:32,119
like they criticized him for wasting his intellectual talent on

1063
00:53:32,199 --> 00:53:34,960
baseball because he was so. Smart he had a law

1064
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:36,159
degree and all this.

1065
00:53:36,159 --> 00:53:38,760
Speaker 1: Other, stuff and his law professor pushed him into.

1066
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,519
Speaker 2: Baseball, yeah but he did pass the bar and he

1067
00:53:41,519 --> 00:53:42,960
did get his law degree as, Well so he has

1068
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:46,679
a law. Degree he is a magnecumlata at Fucking princeton

1069
00:53:47,159 --> 00:53:49,639
and an ex baseball player in X by and he's just,

1070
00:53:49,679 --> 00:53:51,679
LIKE i don't want to. Work this is.

1071
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:55,039
Speaker 1: Pointless got to put the law degree into practice at some?

1072
00:53:55,079 --> 00:53:57,079
Point does he not at least try to take one?

1073
00:53:57,159 --> 00:54:00,639
Speaker 2: Case? Nope. Nope and when he was criticized wasting his

1074
00:54:00,679 --> 00:54:04,320
intelligence on, baseball he, Replied i'd rather be a ballplayer

1075
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:05,840
than a justice of THE. U. S Supreme.

1076
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: Court ain't that the damn?

1077
00:54:08,039 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 2: TRUTH i couldn't agree. More at one, point he had

1078
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,119
received a lot of requests to write his memoirs because

1079
00:54:15,119 --> 00:54:16,960
he had lived a very interesting, life but he turned them.

1080
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,440
Down he almost started to work on them in nineteen,

1081
00:54:20,519 --> 00:54:24,920
sixty but he quit because they had hired like a co,

1082
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:26,360
writer you know WHAT i, mean to do it with

1083
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,840
him to write the. Book and the co writer got

1084
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,480
really disappointed when he showed up because for some, reason

1085
00:54:32,599 --> 00:54:35,039
he thought he was writing the memoirs Of Moe howard

1086
00:54:35,039 --> 00:54:36,480
From The Three Stooges.

1087
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: Classic, mistake it gets classic mix. Up, yeah he gets

1088
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:45,440
there and he's, like, oh you're not a Three stooge

1089
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,039
student had like a way more interest in. Life, No

1090
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,440
so this co writer like shows up all giddy and he's, like,

1091
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:54,320
oh who are?

1092
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 2: You And Mo burg is, like fuck this, Justice i'm

1093
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:58,719
not writing. Shit that just.

1094
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:00,760
Speaker 1: Yeah if the guy's not doing like his homework on

1095
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:01,639
who he's brighten, On.

1096
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,119
Speaker 2: Yeah this guy was sent to him to do it.

1097
00:55:04,639 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 1: Right it'd be like if we got invited on another

1098
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:13,760
podcast to talk about ourselves and they're, like who are?

1099
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:15,159
Speaker 2: You oh you're not hardcore.

1100
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 1: History yeah you're Not Dan. Carlin, yeah uh, yeah sorry

1101
00:55:19,639 --> 00:55:22,920
fucking about. THAT i guess you're a history podcaster Named. Dan,

1102
00:55:23,039 --> 00:55:27,800
yeah just figured dude Be. Carlin So berg Died.

1103
00:55:28,599 --> 00:55:31,039
Speaker 2: May nineteen seventy two at the age of. Seventy he

1104
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,360
in a fall at his sister's.

1105
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,679
Speaker 1: House it, happens, man once you get to a certain,

1106
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,880
age you take that. Tumble it's.

1107
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:41,559
Speaker 2: Over it's, done just one. LITTLE a nurse at the

1108
00:55:41,599 --> 00:55:45,440
hospital said that his final words, were how did The

1109
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:45,800
mets do?

1110
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: Today did they? Lose?

1111
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:50,199
Speaker 2: Surprisingly they? Won, well The.

1112
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: Mets were? THEY i mean they became a team on the.

1113
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:55,760
Speaker 2: Sixties, yeah they won The World series in sixty, nine but.

1114
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: As a franchise they became like The metropolitans and THIS

1115
00:55:58,159 --> 00:56:00,880
i think in sixty the expansion year with sixty so

1116
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,440
they were The Miracle mets in sixty Nine Nolan ryan's only.

1117
00:56:04,519 --> 00:56:08,280
Ring but did they have like a a previous team

1118
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,480
that became The. Mets they were an expansion, team all.

1119
00:56:10,599 --> 00:56:12,320
RIGHT i didn't know if they, like, why what the

1120
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,079
fuck would he care about The mets just being A

1121
00:56:14,079 --> 00:56:14,440
New york.

1122
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 2: Team, YEAH i guess because His New york teams. LEFT

1123
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:18,599
i don't, know all.

1124
00:56:18,679 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 1: Right, YEAH i thought that was odd. TOO i was,

1125
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:22,800
like what's this connection in The?

1126
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 2: Mets, yeah when you asked about The White sox or, something, Right, LIKE.

1127
00:56:27,519 --> 00:56:29,639
Speaker 1: I don't, know if you play the majority of your career,

1128
00:56:29,639 --> 00:56:32,320
somewhere you would think they would become a fan of that. Team,

1129
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,320
yeah they usually.

1130
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 2: Do, yeah you don't go back to your childhood, team.

1131
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,559
Speaker 1: And especially when they didn't exist in your child.

1132
00:56:41,199 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 2: They, existed so, wait hold. On he died in nineteen seventy,

1133
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:45,000
two so they had existed for twelve.

1134
00:56:45,039 --> 00:56:49,639
Speaker 1: Years, yeah it's like my dying words being how Did

1135
00:56:49,639 --> 00:56:54,400
AUSTIN fc? Do fuck IF i? Cared or like my

1136
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,679
hat right? Now The Round Rock, express.

1137
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 2: How'd they express do? Today? Did he clearly has. Dementia

1138
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:06,960
he's dying, soon it's. Over he's never asked about THE.

1139
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:11,840
Mets once, before he was awarded The Presidential medal Of

1140
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,719
freedom By Harry, truman but he declined to accept it

1141
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:18,400
because they wouldn't because he worked for THE. Oss it

1142
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:19,920
was kind of like a. Secret they were just, like

1143
00:57:20,119 --> 00:57:22,119
he gets The Presidential medal Of freedom for.

1144
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:27,159
Speaker 1: Reasons, yeah it's like you're almost putting them on blast

1145
00:57:27,239 --> 00:57:29,320
out in the. Public, well they just.

1146
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 2: Wouldn't they wouldn't talk about the shit he worked.

1147
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 1: On, yeah so that would essentially just be them are

1148
00:57:36,679 --> 00:57:40,639
like exposing, Him, yeah like what's he getting this? For,

1149
00:57:41,079 --> 00:57:41,760
okay so he's.

1150
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 2: Intelligence, yeah but he wanted them to expose, him like

1151
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:45,639
he wanted to be, like, no tell him WHAT i.

1152
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Did i'm.

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Speaker 1: SWEET i mean that's why you get into it right right?

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Right every FORMER cia guy now just has a podcast

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00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:56,880
or goes on a podcast and talks about all the

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00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:57,599
radshit they.

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00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,679
Speaker 2: Did talked about, everything.

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00:57:59,239 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: Same with like seals yea seals love to.

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00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 2: Talk i'm just like on the highest security clearance.

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00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: Missions everyone that was involved in the Bin Laden ray

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just you, know can't shut their. Miles but they.

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00:58:11,679 --> 00:58:16,559
Speaker 2: PEAKED i don't blame. Them they're Mo. Burg they fucking.

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00:58:16,599 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 1: Peaked so you want, credit, NOW i get it one hundred.

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00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:24,599
Speaker 2: Percent after he, died his Sister ethel did request and

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00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,400
accept the award on his, behalf and she donated it

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00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:29,519
to The Baseball hall Of, fame where it sits. Today

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00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:36,639
Mo burg is the only baseball card on display AT cia.

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Headquarters that's. Sweet what's his rookie card go? FOR i don't.

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KNOW i would love to find A moburg.

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Speaker 1: Card you can get us a Mo burg and it

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doesn't even have to be a rookie. Card any year

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card on the.

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Speaker 2: Set, yeah, Actually i'll look for one after the.

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Speaker 1: Game.

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Speaker 2: Uh Casey, stangele the manager of The, yankees called him

1176
00:58:55,519 --> 00:59:00,880
quote the strangest man to ever play. BASEBALL i think

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he was just.

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Speaker 1: You, know we had different avenues and different Interest there's

1179
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plenty of guys like. That. Now, YEAH i don't necessarily

1180
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:10,679
think that makes you. Interesting it's just, like oh, YEAH

1181
00:59:10,679 --> 00:59:15,000
i MEAN i play a child's. Game it's not everything.

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Speaker 2: With my extremely adult. Brain but, yeah that's. Oh and

1183
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,119
then also in twenty, eighteen a Movie No One saw

1184
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:24,599
was made about, him Starring Paul.

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00:59:24,679 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: Rudd what's Called The catcher was a. Spy, Okay Paul

1186
00:59:31,079 --> 00:59:32,000
rudd Plays.

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Speaker 2: Paul rudd Plays.

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Speaker 1: Moburg, Yeah i'm gonna have to do watch a long for.

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THAT i.

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Speaker 2: Would i've never seen. It at it to the list and,

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00:59:40,199 --> 00:59:42,039
it's by the, way it's like a loaded cast. Too

1192
00:59:42,039 --> 00:59:44,440
it's Like Paul giamatti and like there's a bunch of

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people in.

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Speaker 1: It do you come out in? Theaters, yeah never heard of.

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00:59:48,719 --> 00:59:49,519
Speaker 2: It no one saw, it.

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Speaker 1: But, yeah that is the story of Mo, burg The

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00:59:55,519 --> 01:00:00,639
catcher and The. Spy so The catcher in The. Rye, yeah, yeah.

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01:00:01,199 --> 01:00:04,480
Nice what'd you learn? Today all about this? Dude had

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no idea who he. Was at, FIRST i thought it

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01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,639
was gonna be for some, REASON i forgot his, name

1201
01:00:11,639 --> 01:00:13,880
but the guy that chased the ambulances AND.

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Speaker 2: I think that Was Rude, woodell But i'm not H, YEAH.

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01:00:16,599 --> 01:00:18,159
Speaker 1: I think his name was A. Rube so it was

1204
01:00:18,159 --> 01:00:19,719
a JAKE ebi. SAID i was a little. WIRRIED i was, like,

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01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:20,320
oh now Is.

1206
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 2: I'm repeat worried we had done this guy, before AND

1207
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,559
i searched as much AS i could and uh couldn't find.

1208
01:00:28,559 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 1: It SO i was, like, okay and we've been doing this.

1209
01:00:30,039 --> 01:00:33,639
Show we're gonna go on year. Six, yeah in twenty twenty,

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six so.

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01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 2: Yeah holy, shit feels like just.

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01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 1: YESTERDAY i, know maybe we'll blow up this.

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01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 2: Year this is the. Year this is the.

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01:00:41,519 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 1: Year people will go back watch the archives be, like,

1215
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:50,239
wow this is an entirely different. Show he kind Of,

1216
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:57,679
yeah who's today's. Hitler i'm gonna go with, us even

1217
01:00:57,719 --> 01:00:59,119
wasting our time on The. ITALIANS.

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01:01:00,639 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 2: Fdr, YEAH fdr Is todave's.

1219
01:01:03,559 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 1: Hitler for trying to like Hire italian rocket. Scientists, yeah

1220
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:08,079
we didn't need. Them they're pretty.

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01:01:08,159 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 2: USELESS i Think fairy was, useful IF i, recall BUT

1222
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,159
i don't. Know a lot of it was a lot

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01:01:14,199 --> 01:01:16,360
of wanting to get to them was because we thought

1224
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,320
they might have inside in phone what The germans were

1225
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:19,440
doing and how close they were.

1226
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,639
Speaker 1: To, shit and they probably. Didn't they were, like and

1227
01:01:21,719 --> 01:01:22,280
they tell us.

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01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 2: Nothing we went into the laboratory and they threw spaghetti

1229
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:27,719
at us and throw it to. Leave they laughed at.

1230
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:32,079
Us they're probably late they were almost certainly they were.

1231
01:01:32,119 --> 01:01:34,159
Speaker 1: Late so The germans, like, no get the fuck, out

1232
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:38,519
you leave now, LATE i don't fund you here you

1233
01:01:38,639 --> 01:01:44,920
a joke of for. People fun episode, though good, episode, Yeah.

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01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 2: Berg, dope, dude we Might, YEAH i think we should

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01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:50,559
do watch long for The catcher was a. Spy let's

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01:01:50,599 --> 01:01:51,000
do it With.

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01:01:51,039 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 1: Paul check out the Patreon patreon dot Com Software History

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01:01:55,280 --> 01:02:00,119
lower tier two episodes every week that Drop wednesday And,

1239
01:02:00,199 --> 01:02:01,880
friday and then we have an upper tier where we

1240
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:05,559
do an additional sports show and then bonus old content

1241
01:02:05,719 --> 01:02:08,880
sports show that covers like modern. Sports yeah, yeah, yeah

1242
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:10,679
like things that are happening in real.

1243
01:02:10,559 --> 01:02:12,079
Speaker 2: Time make picks and stuff like. That.

1244
01:02:12,159 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 1: Yep and then, yeah additional content as, well some older

1245
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,639
stuff that we're kind of digging out of the. Archives.

1246
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:20,880
Yeah and then we're, yeah released some new stuff as.

1247
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:24,199
Well check out our sketches and our video on YouTube

1248
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:25,480
at Softcore history on.

1249
01:02:25,519 --> 01:02:31,159
Speaker 2: YouTube hell, yeah got some new ones coming. Out doing, Well,

1250
01:02:31,239 --> 01:02:33,320
yeah doing really. Well thank you for supporting, Them thank

1251
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:33,920
you for supporting.

1252
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 1: Us, hello, guys see you later for damn just Rom Rob,

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01:02:37,519 --> 01:02:38,599
fox you just got a saucer