Speaker 1: Hello, welcome to private Talk. I'm excited to get to
Speaker 1: know you a little bit more, have it more like
Speaker 1: you know, one on one conversation, and get to know
Speaker 1: all the things about Sam Jay.
Speaker 2: I'm excited to let's do it. Are you ready for me?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm ready. I stay ready, Stay ready. I like that.
Speaker 1: You know, we were talking before we started it, and
Speaker 1: I had to get that out of the way of like,
Speaker 1: you know, you watch my movies, I've I've seabled I
Speaker 1: don't really I don't buy porn. Okay, so, but who
Speaker 1: buys porn these days? Unfortunately you all should buy a
Speaker 1: porn or have you know, subscription only fans like mine.
Speaker 3: But but definitely I've seen, like you know, Twitter porn clips. Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm an ex Hamster person.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you naughty. You're naughty with the free porn.
Speaker 1: That's what you're admitting to us here now live on
Speaker 1: private h Well, maybe you know, we'll you know, pull
Speaker 1: you over to the other side and make you have
Speaker 1: at least a subscription of somebody of some of your favorites.
Speaker 1: Maybe not, maybe dabble a little bit it feel it
Speaker 1: feels real.
Speaker 3: I should maybe you know what just out of like
Speaker 3: the support of the porn on community exactly I should
Speaker 3: do it right.
Speaker 1: That's where I feel like we're so what happens.
Speaker 3: With the free porn because I never even thought about
Speaker 3: these I never even thought about porn rights.
Speaker 1: This is why we're here, guys. And that's the thing
Speaker 1: is we don't get paid at all. It's basically it
Speaker 1: was just like when someone like steals your music or
Speaker 1: your content whatever it's.
Speaker 3: And they could dedicate whole site citus and make money,
Speaker 3: but you don't make any money.
Speaker 1: Now I don't like that at all. I think you
Speaker 1: need to tell the people what we have and the
Speaker 1: people like to do what you're doing. And unfortunately, sometimes
Speaker 1: when we don't have the conversations that we're having, we
Speaker 1: don't know those things.
Speaker 2: But that's also why.
Speaker 1: People in platforms like OnlyFans kind of started going around
Speaker 1: and having a third party person but where we had
Speaker 1: more ownership.
Speaker 2: So you know what it is we have to fix.
Speaker 3: Because I know why I don't subscribe to porn is
Speaker 3: because like it makes me feel like I'm committing to
Speaker 3: some like nasty shit, Like I'm really like, I really
Speaker 3: want the nasty ship to be a part of my life.
Speaker 2: Because like I'm.
Speaker 1: Like a gym membership. Like you're like, how can I
Speaker 1: ever get out that? You don't know if like you
Speaker 1: can like you let the mail from porn hub or
Speaker 1: somewhere being like you know, yeah, it's like it feels
Speaker 1: like a real reason why are you moving? Are you doing?
Speaker 2: One? Are the terms that they.
Speaker 3: Make it so difficult you feel like such a like
Speaker 3: now I'm like a porn nigga. Okay, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying with where it's like when I just pat
Speaker 3: pop in and out watch a little freaks, but I'm
Speaker 3: just like, oh that was my mood today, okay, versus
Speaker 3: iig month, I'm giving up the bread. Then it's like this,
Speaker 3: I'm committing to being this type of person.
Speaker 1: But don't you think that in the flip side, what
Speaker 1: if I like really was an avid fan of like
Speaker 1: your your work right, and I need to like to
Speaker 1: get off in that way of like getting to fulfillment
Speaker 1: of laughing and making you make you feel good, And
Speaker 1: I just want it for free, but you have it
Speaker 1: on sale, but I'm gonna take it for free. No,
Speaker 1: You're right, It's like but you know I'm gonna get mine,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna take it for free.
Speaker 3: You're right, You're right, You're right. I'm gonna buy some
Speaker 3: porn every month. That's I'm committing on the show.
Speaker 2: I will purchase some porn every month. Compromise. We love that.
Speaker 2: Here a private talk.
Speaker 3: It's all about man, because I'm a person, and that's
Speaker 3: what I'm gonna tell people when they ask.
Speaker 2: I'm like, this has nothing to do with me, like
Speaker 2: and the people who do very good people too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, y'all got to make one of those Saved the
Speaker 3: Children commercials and just be like, hey, bro.
Speaker 1: You know I always say I got this from something
Speaker 1: early on in my heread. It's like I were people
Speaker 1: helping people one time. It's true, and I feel like
Speaker 1: that's a real life.
Speaker 2: You keep it a lot of people safe, exactly.
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of time would happen if they
Speaker 1: weren't a lot of times more.
Speaker 2: Buildings blowing up, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I don't know about any of that, but yeah, hey,
Speaker 1: I know what kind of.
Speaker 2: Porn you like? Huh mmmm? I run the gambit?
Speaker 1: Okay, so this is a gamble whatever like pops up
Speaker 1: as a free ad or like what's going.
Speaker 2: Not not like not like a scavenger. It's not. But
Speaker 2: that's why I say. You say it's always like I
Speaker 2: had a doter porn.
Speaker 1: But you're so you know how they tell you your
Speaker 1: phone and all these devices listen to you, right, so
Speaker 1: they like know what you like. So there's probably some
Speaker 1: girl or in a Lexus Texas ad that pops.
Speaker 2: Up and maybe you like, oh, like get click on it.
Speaker 1: Maybe not, I go.
Speaker 2: It just depends on my mood. So how many times
Speaker 2: are you?
Speaker 3: Oh, not that much now, it's not crazy for me,
Speaker 3: like maybe time, Oh I might.
Speaker 2: Go a week, two weeks, okay.
Speaker 1: Is that because you have a lot of sex or
Speaker 1: because you're just not a highly sexual person.
Speaker 2: It's so weird.
Speaker 3: I am a highly sexual person. When I'm around somebody,
Speaker 3: I want to fuck a lot. But if that's not around,
Speaker 3: then I'm just like, I don't know if it's like
Speaker 3: the Capricorn to me that we're so business like. People
Speaker 3: say we're so business minded and like workaholics and that
Speaker 3: type of shit, but like if that's not around, then
Speaker 3: I'm just like, it's not around doing whatever I'm doing.
Speaker 3: The person may not be around.
Speaker 1: But when that's not around either, when it's someone that
Speaker 1: you want to entertain, you won't even pleasure yourself. I
Speaker 1: don't or just to eat anything for you.
Speaker 2: I don't need to like that.
Speaker 3: Like it will happen eventually, But it's not like I'm
Speaker 3: not today.
Speaker 2: I'm not super.
Speaker 3: Horny unless I'm like actively fucking someone.
Speaker 2: Okay, I like that.
Speaker 1: See, we already got into the porn questions, and that
Speaker 1: wasn't even where I was going. But I feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, it just kind of came out, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, that's where.
Speaker 2: We were, and we have to go with with our guts,
Speaker 2: with our guts.
Speaker 1: So what is like your porn search history? If you like,
Speaker 1: if I was to look at your phone right now,
Speaker 1: right and just say, obviously you don't look at porn
Speaker 1: all the time, but if I was to look at
Speaker 1: the after you watched the porn, what would I see
Speaker 1: on your screen? Like what would be the video? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like what type? Like if it's girl on girl, if
Speaker 1: it's like boy girl, if it's solo stuff.
Speaker 2: It's just never solo. I never want to just watch
Speaker 2: people touch the cells. That's just never does it for me?
Speaker 2: A lot a lot of a lot of yeah, a
Speaker 2: lot of uh.
Speaker 3: Stepmom, a lot of step mom caught me somewhere ship
Speaker 3: uh gay porn like gay guy porn worn Uh. I
Speaker 3: don't really like lesbian pooring that much. Actually, I think
Speaker 3: it's because I do it. Like for me, a porn
Speaker 3: on site is like a store. You know, it's like
Speaker 3: it's voyeurism. It's like I'm gonna go do ship.
Speaker 2: I don't do. I want to see people fuck that
Speaker 2: the way I don't do it, like because so why
Speaker 2: are you doing it? That's how I feel personally.
Speaker 3: So like just watching lesbians and a lot of times
Speaker 3: they don't even be real lesbians, like fake eat.
Speaker 2: You know, they're not real interesting.
Speaker 3: You can tell about how they eat or at least
Speaker 3: how committed they are to lesbian like and I saying
Speaker 3: they never did some lesbian ship. But there's a way,
Speaker 3: like straight bitches have gay sex.
Speaker 2: Way you're like just say technique, Like what's.
Speaker 3: The example, Like it's still yeh kind of the way
Speaker 3: they like it's like very like childish. It's not like
Speaker 3: a grown man that just wants to eat.
Speaker 1: It's like you're not really want to devour your like
Speaker 1: your tongue like where you're like, yeah, it's not devout,
Speaker 1: like playing a little this is also whise for me
Speaker 1: not to take this upon me. But when I started
Speaker 1: doing girls inporn, because I didn't start off about doing that,
Speaker 1: I had never been with the female was I only
Speaker 1: worked with females that liked females because you can definitely tell.
Speaker 2: And I only wanted people who actually.
Speaker 1: Liked it know how to eat. So it's like it's
Speaker 1: gotta be to even exchange or why do it, because
Speaker 1: if you're just poking around.
Speaker 2: Down there, you're a real craftsman and you care exactly.
Speaker 1: Get my job done, get my job done. So talking
Speaker 1: about jobs, So what drew you to comedy? What made
Speaker 1: you like that's defining moment to what you knew that
Speaker 1: that was your path?
Speaker 3: I always liked it, Like liked comedy, you know. I
Speaker 3: was like even when I was very young.
Speaker 2: Like I used to love Bill Cosby, you.
Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying, And like my mom watched a
Speaker 3: lot of comics, so comedy was kind of like all
Speaker 3: my sitcoms were, of course just a big deal in
Speaker 3: the eighties and early nineties, but like she was very
Speaker 3: much like the comics like Bob Newhart then Taxieah like
Speaker 3: that type of shit. So it was kind of always
Speaker 3: around me and I have big funny family, you know,
Speaker 3: love to joke and stuff. But I didn't really like
Speaker 3: know like, oh, this is like what I'm going to
Speaker 3: do until a lot later. Actually, like I turned that
Speaker 3: corner at twenty nine, you know what I mean, kind
Speaker 3: of just from being in a place of just like
Speaker 3: always wanting to do it and knowing it like it
Speaker 3: was in me, but being like scared to kind of
Speaker 3: chase it and feeling like my life was super like
Speaker 3: ass and average, and I was just like, bro, is
Speaker 3: this really gonna be it? Like I always felt like
Speaker 3: there's something more for me. I don't know explain that
Speaker 3: or where that type of feeling even comes from.
Speaker 2: It's just in you. It just was in me, you know.
Speaker 3: But it was like, damn, I'm really working in a
Speaker 3: mail room with no windows, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: Just like getting on a train, is this it?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: And like I see where the highest level of this is,
Speaker 3: and that's my manager who's sitting in a cubicle across
Speaker 3: from me. His only joy is getting a new iPhone
Speaker 3: when it comes out. It is like that will probably
Speaker 3: end up shooting myself in the head eventually if this
Speaker 3: stage like this, Yeah, so it was kind of like, yo,
Speaker 3: go towards your fear and just like see what the
Speaker 3: fuck capitals.
Speaker 1: So with all of that being said, and that's a
Speaker 1: big you know, things to really be aware about and
Speaker 1: really also like as much as like it's a big task,
Speaker 1: it's like such a good thing to be aware at
Speaker 1: that young age, even in twenty nine. It's like we
Speaker 1: start from somewhere, right, But what was that like turning
Speaker 1: point that was like, yeah, you showed up and you're
Speaker 1: like is this everything? But like really made you go
Speaker 1: now dive into this path of comedy like who pushed
Speaker 1: you or maybe what pushed you to kind of get
Speaker 1: you into now like now you're like, fuck it, I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna gamble on myself. This is what I really
Speaker 1: want to do, Like this is I gotta try something?
Speaker 1: What was that something.
Speaker 2: There was? That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It was really no, We're like one moment, I don't
Speaker 3: think well, there was like, oh there was a moment
Speaker 3: when I was like, bitch, you're a loser, and that
Speaker 3: feeling maybe go like you better give this your all.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: From the first mic I went to, I told myself
Speaker 3: I was gonna do it for a year no matter what.
Speaker 3: And I was just gonna like really like fucking drill
Speaker 3: down on it and see what happened.
Speaker 2: And it was because like my life I had the
Speaker 2: kind of came full circle.
Speaker 3: And I was in Atlanta and it was this group
Speaker 3: of kids that would hang out with my homegirl. We
Speaker 3: had our own apartment, and it was always like crashing
Speaker 3: and like trying to sleep on our floor and like
Speaker 3: living with us, and like I loved him, but it
Speaker 3: was like this.
Speaker 2: Is kind of some like bummy niggas, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. And then I got so fucked up. In Atlanta.
Speaker 3: I was staying with another one of my friends, sleeping
Speaker 3: on her floor and one of the niggas used to
Speaker 3: sleep out my floor. When night comes in the house,
Speaker 3: she had a room. Man, I never met him. He
Speaker 3: comes in late and it's one of these dudes who
Speaker 3: used to sleep on my floor and I'm like yo,
Speaker 3: and he's like, oh damn, I didn't even know you
Speaker 3: was the friend that needed to crash. And he like
Speaker 3: he's like all together now and like has a room,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like I'm on the floor,
Speaker 3: and I was like, bro, but that's real. Shit has
Speaker 3: come like full circle in a way that I do
Speaker 3: not like, Like, I really got to reassess what the
Speaker 3: fuck I'm doing with myself, So.
Speaker 2: What'd you do?
Speaker 3: Took my ass home because I needed to do that,
Speaker 3: went back to Boston and kind of mended show with
Speaker 3: my family that had gotten weird and funky. Started working
Speaker 3: just you know, and then I was like.
Speaker 2: Half of like year into working in that mail room
Speaker 2: and I was like, I'm gonna just I'm gonna just try.
Speaker 1: So all this time, were you writing stuff or do
Speaker 1: things just come at your house? Like It's like that
Speaker 1: is also something that yeah, you say you have a
Speaker 1: funny family, and you know it comes natural us certain things,
Speaker 1: But like where did like how did that process start?
Speaker 3: I was doing like sneaky shit, like like I would
Speaker 3: come up with bits and then I would like go
Speaker 3: to a bar and I would like sit next to
Speaker 3: a stranger and I would like spark a conversation and
Speaker 3: I'll like sneak the bit in there and then like
Speaker 3: see what the stranger left, and then I'd be like, hmm, Okay,
Speaker 3: that may be something that I might work with more
Speaker 3: people like that. It was like little test little nerd shit,
Speaker 3: but like little test, you're running your own like, you know,
Speaker 3: it's very calculated, you know, I'm very like, I'm very
Speaker 3: calculated when I think about how to execute things. And
Speaker 3: then I would do like shit at parties that I've
Speaker 3: been thinking about. But they were really like thought out bits,
Speaker 3: like I knew pace by pace, like kind of where
Speaker 3: they were going. And then one night I was at
Speaker 3: my cousins and I was doing this bit about being
Speaker 3: and a bit I ended up actually using a bit
Speaker 3: that's still worse to this day, but which is crazy
Speaker 3: because it was before every got sick. But I was
Speaker 3: doing this whole thing about being how I don't like
Speaker 3: it actually tricky, you know, you know. I was like, yo,
Speaker 3: it moves like mercury.
Speaker 2: You can't catch it.
Speaker 3: And we were everybody was fucking dying, And I called
Speaker 3: my friend back in Atlanta and I was like, bro,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna just do this ship like that was because
Speaker 3: you asked the moment that was the moment I had
Speaker 3: to think God was the moment strapping. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: well you could say strapping that's appropriate.
Speaker 2: Strap in, strap it on you like this, you know what? Yes?
Speaker 3: And no, okay, So at first, I like to do
Speaker 3: it because I want to like a certain dominance and
Speaker 3: I want the girl and like, hey, I can fuck
Speaker 3: good okay. But then after a while it's like, bro, I.
Speaker 2: Don't feel this ship. Can you leave me alone?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: So did you feel it the first time? No?
Speaker 1: But it's about winning, because then it's like, at that point,
Speaker 1: are you just tired of It's time to move on?
Speaker 1: Both it's because it's like, you know, if you can't
Speaker 1: keep it entertaining that.
Speaker 3: It's probably both problem. It's probably a little bit of both.
Speaker 3: But also I just think like it's a lot of
Speaker 3: work to be strapping bitches.
Speaker 2: Bro. I mean, that's the job you chose.
Speaker 3: It's a lot or did it choose you did? I?
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know, didn't choose. It's a lot.
Speaker 3: It's a lot of work, and it's and it's it's
Speaker 3: you know what, it's a lot of delusion.
Speaker 2: You got to do a lot of mind ship too.
Speaker 3: So it's like it's just like, see, that's how detom
Speaker 3: with it time for me, I have.
Speaker 1: To be simulated mind wise for my so actulutely that point,
Speaker 1: if your mind's not in it, then you're you know.
Speaker 3: But it's also like the moves, like if you're trying
Speaker 3: to if you're trying to strap a girl and you
Speaker 3: want to keep the ship, like all in the fantasy
Speaker 3: of what's your favorite happening, you have to first, you can't.
Speaker 3: You have to slick put on the can't You can't.
Speaker 3: That's the hardest part because you can't break the you
Speaker 3: can't break those slick put on the you can't break
Speaker 3: the illusion like hold on, Yeah, you gotta you gotta
Speaker 3: do it. You gotta do it in a way where
Speaker 3: it doesn't seem like too much because you know, women
Speaker 3: once it's a lot to do with. It's like the
Speaker 3: longer that takes, the more they coming out of it.
Speaker 3: So you gotta boom. And then you also don't want
Speaker 3: her to You want her to feel like she ain't
Speaker 3: fucked for real, So it's like you don't want her
Speaker 3: to know.
Speaker 1: You sneak put it on and don't even let them
Speaker 1: know you have it on, yes, and every time, and
Speaker 1: then you just gotta drop.
Speaker 3: That's how it happened in real life. Okay, right, I'm wrong, No,
Speaker 3: I'm just saying yeah, like okay, if you got to
Speaker 3: keep the whole thing, like what's your go to?
Speaker 1: Do you like go to the bathroom and you already
Speaker 1: have it set up? Do you have like a room?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know I'm gonna have some shorts on. Okay, bong,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna put it on. Are you gonna leave the
Speaker 3: shorts on? I'm gonna leave a shorts Okay. First we're
Speaker 3: like making out zap, tabsap. Once it gets to that point,
Speaker 3: it's like boom shorts office.
Speaker 2: Right, we're there. You don't even got to see it.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's just like, how big is it?
Speaker 2: I have more than one? Okay, what's the biggest? I
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe you just told me.
Speaker 2: A whole lot without telling me a whole lot.
Speaker 1: Right, you said dominance, it's a winning it's this, so
Speaker 1: you know what you want that with? You want to
Speaker 1: secure the wind bringing out? I didn't know it has
Speaker 1: a name too.
Speaker 2: No, I don't even how then how do you know what?
Speaker 2: I feel like? It depends on the woman, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like, you're like, hey, but you said it's a sneak.
Speaker 2: Sneaker you can tell you like, I'm not I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna be crazy with this lady. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Body else, Like, first of all, I don't mind get
Speaker 2: that big because I don't believe in that. So what
Speaker 2: maybe I.
Speaker 3: Feel like this this that's crazy.
Speaker 2: I would say maybe maybe like nine and a half
Speaker 2: that's this is it?
Speaker 3: Then it gotta be a maybe then maybe seven measure eight.
Speaker 2: Maybe like eight maybe like eight. I feel like it's like.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, you touched it in the thickness, like the
Speaker 1: right stap it around is at the same or not?
Speaker 3: Na not crazy, not that like like respect one, respectful
Speaker 3: about the nickmas, but also we're like together like that.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take you to the store and let you
Speaker 3: pick on because you should decide.
Speaker 1: So whenever relationship is over, do you get rid of
Speaker 1: because they have to new chick like you cannot bring old?
Speaker 3: Do you have a favorite one that's I'm okay, I
Speaker 3: will say that I'm conflicted about this. I'm conflicted about
Speaker 3: this right this there's a part of me that I
Speaker 3: believes fully new hit one. Women just don't want that,
Speaker 3: like like they're just like that's a touchy yeah, and
Speaker 3: especially because they know.
Speaker 2: You could just get a new one, so they like
Speaker 2: I just want to. Like I feel like if they
Speaker 2: could do that to men, they would, They.
Speaker 1: Just can't, especially at this point, like you said, this
Speaker 1: is relationships. It's not just fucking right. This is like
Speaker 1: you know because at that point.
Speaker 3: You're committing to a lot, right, But then there's this
Speaker 3: other part of me that's like the older me that
Speaker 3: young seem fully was like yeah, but now I'm kind
Speaker 3: of like man like you you have to accept me
Speaker 3: and my like I'm grown now, Like, bro, I'm not
Speaker 3: feena just be here flipping for you, you know, like
Speaker 3: this is it comes with all of youwasher okaywash dishwash, Like.
Speaker 1: I like this though, this is great knowledge because I
Speaker 1: feel like a lot of people again don't talk about it,
Speaker 1: but it is a big thing. And also like how
Speaker 1: that is sexually for you because you have to feel
Speaker 1: good about it as well, Like that's how your pleasure
Speaker 1: points you are all those things you know where it's
Speaker 1: like you don't want it to be awkward for the
Speaker 1: person either it's already you know, like you said, you
Speaker 1: want to be surprised. Do you want it to feel
Speaker 1: like authentic as it can be a new situation?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 1: With that is like what would be your signature go
Speaker 1: to move? Do you have one? Like you're a wrestler,
Speaker 1: like you know, like do you are you doing like
Speaker 1: pile driver to these girls? Are you doing like Doggie?
Speaker 1: Are you doing like? Cause I've only done I've done,
Speaker 1: I've let someone strap me on. But mainly honestly, if
Speaker 1: I'm being real honest, it's been a couple like two times,
Speaker 1: three times, and it's all been really smaller girls because
Speaker 1: I wanted them to feel the dominance of the that
Speaker 1: was to someone that's like me, because I could play both.
Speaker 1: I'm a dominant person. But for me in those situations
Speaker 1: it's worked. So you know so, But there's a signature move,
Speaker 1: what is it?
Speaker 2: Sam? The sam J move?
Speaker 3: All of my signature moves don't really have anything to
Speaker 3: do with It's like all the ship to build up
Speaker 3: to good dirty talk. I'm like a good for because
Speaker 3: I really want like, okay, this is your mouth games.
Speaker 3: This is so toxic, like all right if I if
Speaker 3: I fuck you, I really want you to like love
Speaker 3: me like I'm a psychopath, like, which is bad, I think,
Speaker 3: especially because sometimes it's like I know I'm just fucking you,
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna go like I'm gonna do everything like
Speaker 3: I can demon time.
Speaker 2: I'm on demon time, like I want to, like.
Speaker 1: Person's gonna remember the liever.
Speaker 3: Her forever, no matter how committed I am to the situation,
Speaker 3: which is not necessarily healthy.
Speaker 2: Uh so like could open space feel free?
Speaker 3: Like I'm a real like love making as person, you know,
Speaker 3: which is why my my girl I would hate when
Speaker 3: I cheated because she's like, I know you, You're giving up
Speaker 3: way too much in these situations because you're just not.
Speaker 2: That tight girl as when you're cheating. Got it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So like I'm gonna do and I'm a girl
Speaker 3: who's fucked dudes. Okay, so I also know like what
Speaker 3: to do, Like it's dobollical, Like if we're in conversation
Speaker 3: and you tell me like where you have an in
Speaker 3: security in your body, like I'm gonna go there first
Speaker 3: and kiss it and be like like that's parts perfect.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like I'm saying in the head,
Speaker 2: I can see why I've never dated in a capricor
Speaker 2: that's some ship. We'll die ball.
Speaker 1: I'm a Gemini, so I get it, but I don't
Speaker 1: operate like that. But I understand people who do and
Speaker 1: not in a sense whatever. But again it's it's because.
Speaker 3: I just want you to be like we're fucking I
Speaker 3: want you to be as open as possible.
Speaker 1: So let's and it comes. Yes, it comes from a
Speaker 1: rooted other issues of things. That's why I say this
Speaker 1: is a safe space of those things and awareness of
Speaker 1: all of it. But it all makes sense because that's
Speaker 1: how you were taught in a sense of where you
Speaker 1: feel safe in your highest sexual self.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe you gotta come on therapy, come on, shit,
Speaker 3: mind blown problem? Yeah no, probably it is, yeah, okay, relaxed.
Speaker 3: But the thing is why I love is like you're
Speaker 3: honest about it.
Speaker 1: And the thing is, it's like even with that being,
Speaker 1: the awareness of it is like sometimes why it's like
Speaker 1: we have all the answers to what we have is
Speaker 1: because when we have conversations like this, when we talk
Speaker 1: about things like this, and again this is probably something
Speaker 1: that you need talk to like your closest friends or whatever,
Speaker 1: but we just met, right, So it's like, but it's
Speaker 1: also a comfortable inviting, you know. Situation is like I
Speaker 1: think also it's important for your fans and my fans
Speaker 1: to get to know people for who they are, not
Speaker 1: just your craft, but knowing of like like what we
Speaker 1: do doesn't defineance of everything is. But you're telling your
Speaker 1: truth and I think that that's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 3: You know it's true, So that you're diabolical shit yeah,
Speaker 3: so yeah, like you know, so you're going to the
Speaker 3: course of like what you know people are going to
Speaker 3: fall for. Yes, sexually yes, sexually not like in practice
Speaker 3: of relationship but yeah, but but sexually yes absolutely.
Speaker 1: But in tune unlocks other doors. Yeah, so that's a
Speaker 1: diabolical part, but yes, yes, but so yeah, so I'm
Speaker 1: not in it just like book, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Also, the bigger part is you want to
Speaker 1: enjoy yourself and you know, at that point, at your
Speaker 1: highest peak, you're feeling good, you're operating like everything's I want,
Speaker 1: uses are flowing. I also want the you have to offer,
Speaker 1: and only demons can unlocked up.
Speaker 2: So I need to know, like I'm trying.
Speaker 3: That's why I'm here to find like why else what
Speaker 3: part maybe you should have done? So I know that's
Speaker 3: what makes it bad. I'm just out here in the streets.
Speaker 3: But yeah, so yeah boom and then so for me,
Speaker 3: it's not necessarily like about a certain move. It's like
Speaker 3: because once we're in that space, it's just like a
Speaker 3: mutual giving and taking.
Speaker 1: So you more of a mind fucker, that's your move.
Speaker 2: I guess, I guess, I guess.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm learning a lot here like this. You know
Speaker 1: it's not a damn, it's a wow. Okay, we need
Speaker 1: to like you need to move into the energy of
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: What pleases you? Hm hmm.
Speaker 1: Is it because they're falling and over you? And that's
Speaker 1: what it is?
Speaker 2: Whatever? Like ego maniaction?
Speaker 1: But are they doing something to you and the return
Speaker 1: of like that?
Speaker 2: Why one?
Speaker 3: When you when you're despite what people think, when you're
Speaker 3: rapp is somebody like it's rubbing on shit is happening,
Speaker 3: Like she's grinded on all that shit is happening. A
Speaker 3: bit of it is a suspended fantasy.
Speaker 2: Of it, you know what I mean? Like you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't if she has grip, you can feel
Speaker 3: that shit pulling at the strap for sure. Uh.
Speaker 1: For the actions, it's emotions.
Speaker 2: It's like what you're touching all that kind of stuff? Uh,
Speaker 2: head for sure, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So you would say that you like tits before us
Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, okay, you said before you said
Speaker 1: anything else, I would say, like for like, we're sucking
Speaker 1: sucking this and when we say this, is this on
Speaker 1: your partner or you're receiving this both okay, both okay,
Speaker 1: so and then walk us through this as far as
Speaker 1: like the pleasuring of those things, right cause you're the
Speaker 1: dominant one in the situation, you're doing the sneaky who
Speaker 1: are doing all the things your girl?
Speaker 3: Click, it's not sneaky sneaky.
Speaker 4: I don't know there should be a cross word because
Speaker 4: it's like you're also and I guess it's but the
Speaker 4: sneaky part is more from the sense of like the
Speaker 4: surprise element of like you want it to also be
Speaker 4: enjoyable where it's not like being a whole presentation and
Speaker 4: putting on this thing it takes away from the the moment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I just want to keep the moment.
Speaker 1: So I get that. But like so like when you're
Speaker 1: after she's strapped on, do you take it off then
Speaker 1: and then you're getting head or is then it's complete
Speaker 1: and then it's just done? Like where is because at
Speaker 1: that point going on.
Speaker 2: You yeah, sometimes I might.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you're it's almost like you're doing scissoring.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I'm good. I don't know why I didn't
Speaker 3: get like that girly like girl Jean. But I don't
Speaker 3: need to like ship around times, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Like that's not I have to. That's not necessary for me.
Speaker 3: So it's like if if if I once, I'm kind
Speaker 3: of like that's cool, I could now could go do
Speaker 3: some other ship and maybe like if we're chilling, then okay,
Speaker 3: we go get ooh.
Speaker 2: But it's not like I don't need that.
Speaker 1: So what's the most of the times in my life?
Speaker 1: And sure because it is like a world. Yeah it
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like a lot. Nah, not a lot, Like
Speaker 1: how many I don't maybe put on the table maybe too, Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe that's it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I really don't.
Speaker 3: I really don't want that Like once, I'm like go
Speaker 3: away kind of like for a minute at least, like
Speaker 3: get off me.
Speaker 2: Of course, like for a minute at least, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. So it's like I don't four minutes,
Speaker 2: go in the corner, don't touch it, or like I
Speaker 2: don't need all that.
Speaker 1: Again, you don't want the person like touching you afterwards?
Speaker 3: For sure, it's fine, but I don't need it got it,
Speaker 3: like if it didn't happen and we just musually rolled over.
Speaker 2: I went to a bed. That's fine too. So you're
Speaker 2: not a cuddler. I can be okay, but I don't.
Speaker 2: You know, it's not my thing. You don't like being touched?
Speaker 2: Really not a lot like that?
Speaker 3: Okay, I know this is this is this is why
Speaker 3: I have issues.
Speaker 2: Do you like being spanked? Have you ever been spanked?
Speaker 3: I don't think in a way that I could respect
Speaker 3: to make an honest call, And.
Speaker 1: I don't think you have issues. I think everyone has issues, right,
Speaker 1: and let's be honest, Like I think again, it's the
Speaker 1: honesty of like what when we have conversations, things come out,
Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, let's think about this a little bit
Speaker 1: different or like whatever. I think it's intriguing and that's
Speaker 1: why I think that for me, I'm such an impath
Speaker 1: and I'm such an open sexual person. That's why I
Speaker 1: make the joke of doctor Texas but without the PhD
Speaker 1: is like I just have life and like sexual knowledge.
Speaker 1: So I use that and then the tune it all
Speaker 1: into my own recipe of when it's private talk but.
Speaker 3: Sexual, because I think that that shows where you show
Speaker 3: up and how you.
Speaker 1: And like when we talk about love languages and like
Speaker 1: how you give and receive things and how you need things.
Speaker 1: It's also too in a sense of where intimacy is
Speaker 1: different for everybody. And I think that that's, you know,
Speaker 1: something that some people are not taught. Some people are
Speaker 1: taught things that are maybe not ideal, and then some
Speaker 1: people just learn things throughout the process. So it's like
Speaker 1: when you really have a partner or someone that's like
Speaker 1: open with you to like navigate those things together, you
Speaker 1: kind of unlock certain things about yourself that you wouldn't
Speaker 1: have known without that. And that's why for me, why
Speaker 1: I loved porn was my career did that for me
Speaker 1: is because I'm such a person on where we are
Speaker 1: and the study of like what that the environments that
Speaker 1: we were in, like why we do things to make
Speaker 1: it make sense. Yeah, And so it's like in those
Speaker 1: safe spaces of like me being allowed to be a
Speaker 1: sexual person and not knowing exactly if I liked girls
Speaker 1: or guys or what the or anyone. I always like guys,
Speaker 1: but I didn't know if I like girls and guys
Speaker 1: together or what that looked like was a safe space
Speaker 1: for me to explore that, which was such a beautiful
Speaker 1: thing of how it kind of portrayed it was because
Speaker 1: at first it was like I.
Speaker 2: Don't know what I'm doing, but I like it.
Speaker 1: And so it's like again how you say, like the
Speaker 1: when you know of someone they're doing it a certain
Speaker 1: way or when you're not where it's like sex life,
Speaker 1: it shouldn't be forced. It should be an organic certain
Speaker 1: things and everything we do in our crafts of it's
Speaker 1: business sex from everything, and so I think that that
Speaker 1: comes along that there's kind of like a maybe a
Speaker 1: recipe and a formula of how we do things.
Speaker 3: No, absolutely, and you're right, it's rooted in shit because
Speaker 3: I'm not.
Speaker 2: I wasn't. I wasn't from like a touchy family. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I know, I was loved. I was very loved. I
Speaker 2: felt very loved by my mom.
Speaker 3: I felt very protected and love about how olders I'm
Speaker 3: forty three, okay, but I wasn't.
Speaker 2: I never am.
Speaker 3: I like, like, we weren't a super huggy, touchy but.
Speaker 1: I think it's awesome the time of like and you know,
Speaker 1: we joke around with my friends that we say the era,
Speaker 1: but it's like the era of those times of that
Speaker 1: wasn't something.
Speaker 2: That our parents did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that generationally of what that was is like
Speaker 1: love is in different forms, different Some people don't give
Speaker 1: and show and receive love those certain ways. So it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know the like words sometimes are words, and sometimes
Speaker 1: touching is uncomfortable unless it's your intimate partner. So it's
Speaker 1: like then you navigate what those things look like.
Speaker 3: And even that is like when it's time for touching,
Speaker 3: Like if you touch me at an off time, I'm like, whoa,
Speaker 3: why you like?
Speaker 1: But those are But those are the things I think
Speaker 1: sometimes that we don't realize but in these conversations of
Speaker 1: leaning into but why because it's like when you have
Speaker 1: a loving partner or you have someone just that you're
Speaker 1: being intimate having fun with, it's like sometimes there's a
Speaker 1: line that needs to be crossed because it's an intimate
Speaker 1: thing or it could be intimate right and then but
Speaker 1: sometimes maybe you're not ready before. Like I had some
Speaker 1: a friend that was like only wanted to do anything
Speaker 1: intimate in a bed, like outside life whatever.
Speaker 2: Whatever.
Speaker 1: It's like, this is when you do those things, I'm like,
Speaker 1: but how do you know to do that prior to that?
Speaker 1: And like how do people know that like the foreplay
Speaker 1: and a sense of flirting and knowing those things of
Speaker 1: because that's not how everyone operates.
Speaker 2: Can people understand that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: But it's like, you know, people are meant to be loved.
Speaker 1: People I feel like don't show enough love. I think
Speaker 1: that people think that love is weird sometimes, and people
Speaker 1: think that when people kiss and hug and they're not
Speaker 1: in a relationship, they're like, oh, wait, you're fucking like No,
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be that. But love is exuded
Speaker 1: into different ways. And I think that, you know, it's
Speaker 1: fun to like see people like yourself who's so open
Speaker 1: and you, you know, talk about and you do you know,
Speaker 1: you write about and your jokes and stuff something other
Speaker 1: sexual of like you navigating your stuff too? Facts A
Speaker 1: what's your favorite position? You know you don't have a
Speaker 1: go to, but what's the good dog? What's the one
Speaker 1: that like when you see her? Probably doing something because I.
Speaker 2: Like to see the little bit.
Speaker 1: Okay, are you the one doing the dirty talk or
Speaker 1: are they?
Speaker 2: Who?
Speaker 1: Can I have an example of your dirty talk?
Speaker 2: Oh that's crazy.
Speaker 1: You go with your words?
Speaker 2: I know it.
Speaker 1: So look you even.
Speaker 2: Know damn what if you what.
Speaker 1: If you surprise, sneaky and you came out the bathroom.
Speaker 3: I never said it was dark real quick, like let
Speaker 3: me think I was like without the action. All my
Speaker 3: all my dirty talk sound like corny.
Speaker 2: No, but how do you know, let's hear it.
Speaker 3: Let's let us be the jug like like you feel
Speaker 3: that taking uh good, you're being a good girl.
Speaker 2: A couple of good girls in there.
Speaker 3: Good girl still say that even if I don't know
Speaker 3: because you know it is, because I know it is,
Speaker 3: or I can hear that ship on the what's encouraging words?
Speaker 1: What's the one that if you getting you know, the
Speaker 1: rub and the right thing? And you said that, and
Speaker 1: it was like what was going to be?
Speaker 3: I don't be making those I don't think she was. Okay,
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. When she's that, I keep all
Speaker 3: my girl noises. I'm the girl doing it to you.
Speaker 1: When I'm doing that, and at the look back, what
Speaker 1: would be that thing you just told me?
Speaker 2: Oh? I would just be.
Speaker 3: Like, oh, fuck, bitch, damn or something like this, like
Speaker 3: I don't even know.
Speaker 2: What to say.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, And I would say say
Speaker 3: what what you say?
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, get it and get it and get.
Speaker 1: Uh, where are some of your biggest influences comedically growing up?
Speaker 2: I love these transitions.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I was like, I feel like all I'm
Speaker 3: going to do is talk to you about and like play.
Speaker 1: You know, and poor they are too, It's just a
Speaker 1: little different. I'm giving it to you a little easier,
Speaker 1: a little bit more finesse, so I can walk you
Speaker 1: out of this.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Biggest influences.
Speaker 3: Chris Rock probably like number one comic I saw that
Speaker 3: was like.
Speaker 2: Oh I I I I think I get this the most.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: It just resonated with me in a way that I
Speaker 3: can't do his style, the fact that it was like
Speaker 3: high level humor but it was still black as hell
Speaker 3: and like and I don't mean that in a disrespectful way.
Speaker 3: I just mean like, at that time, they just weren't
Speaker 3: showing a lot of diversity of what black people are
Speaker 3: in any space, you know. So it was like all
Speaker 3: I'm seeing is like death Jam and I comic view
Speaker 3: and I fuck with that style. But it's like there's
Speaker 3: all types of styles, you know what I'm saying, And
Speaker 3: they kind of was showing you the same style over
Speaker 3: and over and over again. So like when I really
Speaker 3: just covered Chris Rock and I was like, it's a
Speaker 3: high like political commentarory type shit, but still black as fuck.
Speaker 3: It still has that like death jam feel and edge
Speaker 3: to it. I was like, holy shit, like you.
Speaker 2: Can do that, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So Chris is like the man to me, like
Speaker 3: he is like the ultimate high. Like when I met him,
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, like I can't called friends.
Speaker 2: Like dude, this dude knows like who the fuck I am?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? What does that feel like? Crazy?
Speaker 3: You know, like this the kid in you that kind
Speaker 3: of like jumps up and down like I know it,
Speaker 3: you know, especially like when they say something affirming, you know,
Speaker 3: like when Chris told me I was like funny and
Speaker 3: like cood at comedy.
Speaker 2: It was like I made it. I knew it, you know,
Speaker 2: like ah, I.
Speaker 3: Wasn't wrong about myself and what I thought, you know,
Speaker 3: very affirmed. I don't know sometimes if those guys even know.
Speaker 3: They have to know because they probably went through it
Speaker 3: in their own space, how like truly affirming that type
Speaker 3: of shit is and how much it could just keep
Speaker 3: you like going, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: What's that? What's the what's what's that for you?
Speaker 3: Is it like a porn star that was like when
Speaker 3: they was like girl, you could fuck and you were
Speaker 3: like you left like krip walking out that bitch.
Speaker 1: Hmm, not so much. But I feel like I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think for me it was it's been different levels.
Speaker 1: Like I feel like it wasn't necessarily people in the
Speaker 1: business saying those things to me. I think it was
Speaker 1: more of the people that I affected and like had
Speaker 1: like outside because at the time I was in the
Speaker 1: business the beginning, we had a lot less store signings.
Speaker 1: So like, again, it's what I liked the like personal interactions,
Speaker 1: because that's why.
Speaker 3: We do it, and that's why I like we're successful.
Speaker 3: You talk about those fans, I was gonna kill myself.
Speaker 2: Figured out my life a little bit.
Speaker 1: But you know, in some sense, we're like, oh, you
Speaker 1: made me feel good because I'm a curvy girl, and
Speaker 1: like you made me feel like because in the one
Speaker 1: point important that all girls were super skinny and had.
Speaker 2: A really big things, especially why girls, and.
Speaker 1: So it was like for me, they were like you
Speaker 1: made me feel beautiful.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I identify. It's okay, you can call me what
Speaker 2: you need to. It's all right. I like, but for.
Speaker 1: For me, it was like it was more of the
Speaker 1: like the body imaging of it was I wasn't the
Speaker 1: one like I used to always make the joke like
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not afraid to eat on set, like
Speaker 1: I'm not like not starving myself and like you know,
Speaker 1: so like I feel like in the curvy nation of
Speaker 1: girls making me like you made me feel like I
Speaker 1: was BEAUTIFU because you're doing this thing, and so that
Speaker 1: to me was was like, oh, like, not only do
Speaker 1: I enjoy what I do, but it's also giving a
Speaker 1: message to people. And so if that's the most that
Speaker 1: I get out of it, it's a beautiful thing. So
Speaker 1: I just and for me it's again of awareness, Like
Speaker 1: I think that sex is such a taboo's topic to
Speaker 1: certain people. But why it's like, you know, we people
Speaker 1: have one night stands and you feel comfortable enough to
Speaker 1: like have a stranger fuck you, but you can't have
Speaker 1: out each time? Make that makes sense, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So it's like it should be more open.
Speaker 1: There should be more conversation of why does it need
Speaker 1: to be taboo? You know, at one point it was
Speaker 1: just for marriage and say cred you know, like the
Speaker 1: sanctuary of those things, but that's not what that is anymore,
Speaker 1: And it doesn't have to be a dirty ugly word
Speaker 1: or something bad or taboo or like, you know, how
Speaker 1: earlier are we? You know, we joke about how you
Speaker 1: feel like confined to being like, you know, dirty, if
Speaker 1: you like sign up to a site because you're like
Speaker 1: confind to it whatever. But it's like, why can it
Speaker 1: be a good thing where it doesn't have to be
Speaker 1: you're tied to it?
Speaker 2: But it's like, but I also.
Speaker 1: Feel like I understand the chains of what those things
Speaker 1: and subscriptions also mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now I explained that it's charity, Like you don't
Speaker 2: even understand what I'm.
Speaker 1: Doing, you know, But it's research, that's what we say.
Speaker 2: It's research. If you can build your own comedy.
Speaker 1: Special, what would be the lineup and he would be
Speaker 1: on it?
Speaker 2: How many people are? Like how many people do I get? Okay? So,
Speaker 2: how many are typically in a comedy special? Like four?
Speaker 3: Like a lot, like a com like Monique presents the
Speaker 3: Bad Bitches a comedy it would be like one, two.
Speaker 2: Four, there's like four? Yeah. Yeah, I was like, I'm
Speaker 2: pretty sure it's like four.
Speaker 1: So it's too poor first, I'm gonna host it dead
Speaker 1: or a lot dead or a lot.
Speaker 3: Or I'm gonna host it. I'll take that away from you,
Speaker 3: and you don't count as one.
Speaker 2: Prior mm hmm. Because I would love to see it live, Okay.
Speaker 1: I wish we saw like my sound Bard where it's
Speaker 1: like done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, prior Dick Gregory okay, tumor would you include Chris
Speaker 2: Rock mm hmm, okay, just because I get to see
Speaker 2: it all the time.
Speaker 3: Mmmm.
Speaker 2: This is your comedy tour. I'm just on it.
Speaker 1: We speak things into existence. You know, we can't bring
Speaker 1: back people the debt, but yeah.
Speaker 2: We can do what we do.
Speaker 3: What I want to see like early Woman in their
Speaker 3: career Polt, I'll say early morning. Okay, Okay, what morning now?
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: One more, who would be the final lineup to your
Speaker 1: comedy special tour?
Speaker 2: Red Fox? I don't know who that is. But you
Speaker 2: don't know Red Fox? Now? Hell no, you got to
Speaker 2: look at Red Fox, Sanford and Son.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know Sanford and Son, but I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have known that the name of Red Fox the old Man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I didn't know that that. I didn't know that
Speaker 1: was two and two together. But yeah, I didn't know
Speaker 1: he was a comedian standing.
Speaker 2: He was one of the coldest stand ever.
Speaker 1: So you like old school for most of the people
Speaker 1: that you like, because those are you dead, were live.
Speaker 1: So I did say that, but those are people I
Speaker 1: really wanted to see.
Speaker 3: Those are all people I wish I was doing it
Speaker 3: as like people I wish I could see that I
Speaker 3: didn't get to see. And honestly, I feel like Monique
Speaker 3: is kind of a ringer because I just can't think
Speaker 3: of I can't think of.
Speaker 1: A woman right now, but I want a woman in
Speaker 1: there the current now.
Speaker 3: So that I was saying, okay, like right now running
Speaker 3: I'm putting together four. It's gonna be Chris for sure,
Speaker 3: Dave for sure.
Speaker 2: Michael Ja okay, and.
Speaker 3: Reggie Conquest, who is a funny, up and coming New
Speaker 3: York comic that I just think is so fucking hilarious,
Speaker 3: uh and so different than like what what you typically
Speaker 3: see out there, and just the way he takes risk
Speaker 3: and he's super silly, which I enjoy. I enjoy a silly, silly,
Speaker 3: smart kind of kind of vibe. And he's super silly.
Speaker 3: So I'll have Reggie open.
Speaker 2: Yes, I like it. What celebrity would you roast? And
Speaker 2: why Shane Gillis because he's my friend.
Speaker 3: Okay, so it would be a fun, one deep little
Speaker 3: bit and we just like have fun fucking with each other.
Speaker 1: That's how I him about it was in the roast.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you were hilarious.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: I think that it was. How was it doing that
Speaker 1: rust on Netflix?
Speaker 3: Very crazy because I always downplace scenarios and like, I
Speaker 3: don't know if I do that as a thing. You
Speaker 3: could therapist me right here, but I don't know if
Speaker 3: I do that to make things not like overwhelming to me.
Speaker 3: But I never think something's as big as it is.
Speaker 3: So when Jeff called me and he was like, hey, uh,
Speaker 3: you think you want to do this roast for Tom
Speaker 3: Brady And it was like maybe two weeks before the roast,
Speaker 3: he was like, you know, you ain't got that much
Speaker 3: time last minute if you want to do it, and
Speaker 3: I was like fuck yeah, Like because I'm from Boston,
Speaker 3: so I'm like perfect. My first thought is I get
Speaker 3: to meet Tom Brady. I'm not even thinking about the
Speaker 3: task of the roast or like writing it. I'm not
Speaker 3: even by much I'm getting paid, that ask none of it.
Speaker 3: I'm just like I get to meet Tom Brady. Absolutely absolutely, I'll.
Speaker 2: Do this thing. So he's like, cool, it's going to
Speaker 2: be for Netflix. It's a joke festa. Da da Da
Speaker 2: Da Da da da. I'm like cool. He's like, we
Speaker 2: could give.
Speaker 3: You, you know, if you want to get a couple people
Speaker 3: together you want to write with and blah blah blah,
Speaker 3: We'll give you time, blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: I'm like great.
Speaker 3: So I end up making Gaily who helped write on
Speaker 3: my show Pause and just know Sports and it's super
Speaker 3: funny at my homie Radio Rahim, who's just like super insightful,
Speaker 3: and we just kind of made our little three man
Speaker 3: group and just started really like digging into the jokes.
Speaker 2: And I was like cool, I had jokes ready. I was.
Speaker 3: I was headed to La from like another city, and
Speaker 3: I'm just kind of thinking, like cool, I'm gonna knock
Speaker 3: this little roast thing out for the Netflix is the
Speaker 3: jokes Fest, joke Fest. I'm not thinking nothing of it.
Speaker 3: I'm not even thinking it's gonna be a lot like
Speaker 3: streamed a lot of Netflix or nothing. I'm just thinking
Speaker 3: it's for the festival. I don't know if you have
Speaker 3: a bench of comedy festival, but it's like any other
Speaker 3: kind of festival. The people who buy the passes go
Speaker 3: to the shows, they watch them, they fucking leave, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So I'm thinking like, it's just
Speaker 3: a bunch of people that are Tom Brady fans that
Speaker 3: have festival tickets that are gonna come to this thing,
Speaker 3: and that's what it's gonna be.
Speaker 2: And then they're like, oh, are gonna stream it live
Speaker 2: on Netflix.
Speaker 3: I'm still not thinking much of it because Netflix live
Speaker 3: streaming isn't even anything really yet, like that they've done
Speaker 3: a couple of things here and there. You know. I'm
Speaker 3: also just like I don't know, I don't know what
Speaker 3: my brain's doing. But I'm just like, all right, they're
Speaker 3: gonna stream it on Netflix whatever. And they're like yeah,
Speaker 3: and it's at the Forum and I'm like sure, cool, fine,
Speaker 3: get there.
Speaker 1: I think this is called departmentalizing things.
Speaker 3: But get there and they like bring me to my
Speaker 3: trailer and I'm kind of looking around and I'm like, wow,
Speaker 3: they got a lot of like action going on.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, It's like She's like wow, fucking insane.
Speaker 3: But I'm like I got all these trailers, like yeah, Wow,
Speaker 3: this is this big kind of a lot of stuff
Speaker 3: going on. We had the four this crazy baby, you know.
Speaker 3: But I'm still plaint in light, just like yeah whatever,
Speaker 3: not thinking this is Tom Rady of course nothing. So
Speaker 3: then they're like, yo, do you want to like go
Speaker 3: up and rehearse, you know, And I'm like, I'm wearing
Speaker 3: a suit at this point, Like I know, I got
Speaker 3: I got a suit, but I'm just thinking because they
Speaker 3: wanted to really feel like a roast. So I go
Speaker 3: up to like stage the sound check, and I'm standing
Speaker 3: there and look at the crowd and then they got
Speaker 3: this like very nicely like arranged area, and they got
Speaker 3: the little placards like the fucking Grammys or the Oscars,
Speaker 3: and it's like Kim Kardashian this, and they got the
Speaker 3: little the little cutouts, and I'm like, oh shit, my
Speaker 3: heart starting. I'm like, fuck Kam Kardashian like, and so
Speaker 3: I get off stage. I love how that yeah everything
Speaker 3: Tom Brady on.
Speaker 2: You see the Kim Kardashian cut out thing.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh this fuck, this ain't just like
Speaker 3: people falling through for some ship.
Speaker 2: That's really what I'm thinking.
Speaker 3: So I'm like oh, and then I'm looking I'm like,
Speaker 3: so they gonna people see there, and then all this
Speaker 3: ship's gonna be like people. So I get off and
Speaker 3: I see like the stace. I'm like, fuck, why do
Speaker 3: I know Kevin Hurst? I know all this a rape,
Speaker 3: but I'm just like fuck. So I get off and
Speaker 3: I tell my manager, My manager Caroen Baker shout out
Speaker 3: to her.
Speaker 2: I was like, so this is like a big thing, huh.
Speaker 2: And she was like, what the fuck is wrong with you?
Speaker 3: She's like, I mean, now, She's like, what the fuck
Speaker 3: is wrong with you? This is top, it's it's the roast.
Speaker 3: There's a red carpet, and I'm like, okay. So then
Speaker 3: my brain kicks it into like holy shit, you like
Speaker 3: this in it something You're We're in it, you know,
Speaker 3: and then that yeah, that So that's how it felt.
Speaker 3: I just like dumb at first, and then just completely overwhelmed.
Speaker 2: Well you did great. I mean you did a great job.
Speaker 1: I feel like, is there anything that you feel like
Speaker 1: you could have maybe done differently or did you feel
Speaker 1: like you you did what you needed to do.
Speaker 3: I was ya, I would have just like played a
Speaker 3: little bit more like when I was throwing stuff at Bert.
Speaker 2: He was safe. He was actually throwing stuff back, but
Speaker 2: I didn't like go back because.
Speaker 3: It was like so much time. It was tight time.
Speaker 3: It was like you had to kind of do your
Speaker 3: time and get out of there. Yeah, and I knew
Speaker 3: I was the most unknown person to people on the roast,
Speaker 3: Like to the comics, everybody knew me very well, but
Speaker 3: I knew tell people who were going to be tuning
Speaker 3: into this roast.
Speaker 2: I was like, who was this black dyke right here?
Speaker 2: You know? She the truth?
Speaker 3: I just wanted to like get the jokes the fuck off,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But if I regret, I regret that.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I think that you did a great job.
Speaker 1: You definitely made a statement of like, you know, you
Speaker 1: weren't having sex with all these people watching the Netflix special,
Speaker 1: but you know you did leave your statement on them,
Speaker 1: diambolical or not?
Speaker 2: Thank you? Thank you?
Speaker 1: Is there ever been a joke that didn't land so well?
Speaker 1: And how did that? How did you Manivula.
Speaker 2: Didn't not land?
Speaker 3: I've had a joke that didn't get received the way
Speaker 3: I thought it would be received, And that was a
Speaker 3: lot for me because it like blew up on the
Speaker 3: internet a little, and I felt really like fucked up
Speaker 3: about that, because it was like, that's not how I
Speaker 3: meant it, and that's not how I felt, but that's
Speaker 3: how like it just went left on my first specal
Speaker 3: and it was my first special too, so I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: why does the controversies having it like my first time out?
Speaker 2: Got to work out? The king?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know that that special three in the
Speaker 3: Morning on Netflix is the is a.
Speaker 2: It just got listed.
Speaker 3: By Time as one of the top twenty five specials
Speaker 3: on Netflix. And I made that special like four or
Speaker 3: five years ago now, and people just really love that
Speaker 3: fucking special.
Speaker 2: So I still I'm still glad with every part of it.
Speaker 3: But I did this joke where I basically say, like,
Speaker 3: you know, trans people got to stop like shitting on
Speaker 3: trans women, like trans women to women too.
Speaker 2: But then I go in and say, like, and we
Speaker 2: need them, you.
Speaker 3: Know, because like who the fuck is like like stand
Speaker 3: up for us as women, Like we like the longer
Speaker 3: version Joe that they've never got Neflix is like how
Speaker 3: you think we're gonna break in the football and all
Speaker 3: this shit, Bitch like shut.
Speaker 2: The fuck up. And then I was like, uh, you know,
Speaker 2: they're like our X men.
Speaker 3: And then I was like, because if you get in
Speaker 3: a fight or something outside the club, they'll knock the
Speaker 3: nigga out and he'll be confused.
Speaker 2: Like I found punch. I ain't seen nohing, but I
Speaker 2: felt that.
Speaker 3: And then, uh, people were very upset with me, and uh,
Speaker 3: gay people and trans people and people of my community
Speaker 3: just felt like I had totally betrayed them, and like, uh, there,
Speaker 3: you could google Sam j transphobic right now and tons
Speaker 3: of I think pieces will.
Speaker 2: Come up about it.
Speaker 3: But it would hurt me because I really thought I
Speaker 3: was advocating, but I was just advocating and being comedic,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And I just thought it
Speaker 3: was just so misunderstood and like where I actually was
Speaker 3: coming from in my heart with the joke, and I
Speaker 3: think being being black and gay and like all Netflix,
Speaker 3: I feel like the gay and trans community just wanted
Speaker 3: a champion and not like but it's like I'm a
Speaker 3: comic man, like I gotta I gotta do it with
Speaker 3: comedy and the way I see fit. Also, some people
Speaker 3: just don't watch X Men, so they didn't fucking understand
Speaker 3: the joke. In all honesty, they thought I was saying
Speaker 3: that trans people were mutants, but I was like saying,
Speaker 3: they're an evolution of sexuality and gender in the same
Speaker 3: way that the X Men were an evolution of humanity,
Speaker 3: and just what's next, and that was like the whole
Speaker 3: point of the comic book was like evolution. You know,
Speaker 3: humanity has to evolve like everything else, and we should.
Speaker 2: Be open and accepting to that.
Speaker 3: And if you really read X men fuckers, x men
Speaker 3: is the cool name to call them that Xavier calls
Speaker 3: them mutants is the bad slur name like nigga, but
Speaker 3: people don't read X Men a door. So also I
Speaker 3: think it was partly that, but yeah, that that fucked
Speaker 3: me up a little.
Speaker 1: To deal with the conversations again, communication is like I
Speaker 1: also like with that being said, is like, do you
Speaker 1: feel like who you are in your community and how
Speaker 1: you are as a comic. Do you think that is
Speaker 1: kind of altered the way where you maneuver jokes now
Speaker 1: or do you still kind of lean into it because
Speaker 1: I feel like sometimes these problems sometimes happen because why
Speaker 1: it's a target is because it hasn't happened enough times
Speaker 1: to have a yes or a no or anything, or
Speaker 1: a stance on something where it's like sometimes you may
Speaker 1: have to be like push those envelopes to make these
Speaker 1: conversations be like no, that's not what I'm saying, or
Speaker 1: the bigger meaning of like the whole thing didn't come
Speaker 1: out on Netflix because this is what the meaning is.
Speaker 1: Is Like I feel like there still should be comedic relief,
Speaker 1: There still should be those things because the same thing
Speaker 1: with music is what drives people.
Speaker 3: I do think for a while I ran away from it,
Speaker 3: like cause it was my first special and everyone was.
Speaker 2: Yelling at me, and I was like, damn, like I
Speaker 2: didn't do anything.
Speaker 3: I'm about to be canceled before I even get to
Speaker 3: start off of some shit. Like I was just like,
Speaker 3: maybe I just shouldn't talk about that at all because
Speaker 3: it's not worth whatever's gonna come behind it. But I'm
Speaker 3: a lot like I've grown in the you know, just
Speaker 3: in comedy and who I am and all that kind
Speaker 3: of stuff.
Speaker 2: So now nah, But at first it was an initial.
Speaker 3: Like I'm just like back away from this type of
Speaker 3: thing for sure.
Speaker 1: But now we're getting into it, all right, So this
Speaker 1: is my favorite pirate going to truth with Texas, Okay,
Speaker 1: and now we've.
Speaker 3: Gone all over the place, this whole thing wasn't truth
Speaker 3: to hear to this.
Speaker 1: It's always truth at private talk with Miss Texas.
Speaker 2: But we're a little bit more sexual.
Speaker 1: I know we've already kind of dabbled than E've been
Speaker 1: a really amazing open person and I appreciate you, you know,
Speaker 1: giving us that here at private talk. So are you
Speaker 1: ready for him? Yeah, let's dive into it. When did
Speaker 1: you first realize your sexual identity and what was that
Speaker 1: journey like for you.
Speaker 3: I was like late to that too, I would probably
Speaker 3: say I was like twenty four when I startd to'd
Speaker 3: be like, oh, I think maybe like girls. And it
Speaker 3: was kind of just like a lights on thing. I
Speaker 3: wasn't like struggling with sexual identity or anything. I wasn't like,
Speaker 3: oh I hate having sex with men, I don't like this,
Speaker 3: I want to be gay.
Speaker 2: It wasn't any of that.
Speaker 3: It just was like I was fucking dudes and I
Speaker 3: was just like I don't like this, and like I
Speaker 3: don't know why I don't like this, and like cause
Speaker 3: I had a boyfriend for a long time, Yeah, but
Speaker 3: I just didn't care about it in the same way
Speaker 3: that I felt like all my friends my girlfriends was
Speaker 3: caring about it. You know, like I had a boyfriend
Speaker 3: for a long time and I loved him, so it
Speaker 3: was fine fucking him.
Speaker 2: And I think also I was just young.
Speaker 3: You know, and I didn't really know anything about myself sexually.
Speaker 3: And then after we broke up, you know, I was
Speaker 3: more dating around, not in it like exclusive thing, and
Speaker 3: I'm just like I don't get this, Like this is
Speaker 3: not a thing I need to like I need like
Speaker 3: away my homegirls be talking about this shit Like I just.
Speaker 1: But do you feel does that interaction change now with females?
Speaker 3: Yes, So I just was like, I don't know what's wrong,
Speaker 3: but like it's fine, okay, you know what I mean. Also,
Speaker 3: like I'm living in Atlanta where it's like black gay
Speaker 3: mecca type shit, and like women are hitting on me
Speaker 3: and shit, and I'm like kind of interested.
Speaker 2: I'm not one hundred percent sure, but I'm like, this
Speaker 2: isn't turning me off, not.
Speaker 3: Making me, it's not making me like whoa, yeah, none
Speaker 3: of those like alarms are going up. I'm kind of
Speaker 3: just like, oh for real, hmm okay type shit. And
Speaker 3: then I just like comedy oddly, I start doing some
Speaker 3: like testing, so I'm like in the gay chat rooms
Speaker 3: talking a bitch is like, is this something I could do?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Before I like take it out into the world, Like,
Speaker 3: do I mind that at.
Speaker 1: This point, you've never kissed a girl, never done anything.
Speaker 1: You just had like flirtatious things and like so it's
Speaker 1: like a little dipping her.
Speaker 2: Toe into the thing.
Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm gonna dip my toe in person. I
Speaker 3: dip my toe in That's how I do.
Speaker 1: So then that tone never came out the whole foot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got dunked.
Speaker 3: So then I was like, I'm gonna go out on
Speaker 3: a date. And one of my best friends who I
Speaker 3: grew up with, my homegirl. I was kind of telling her,
Speaker 3: like girls keep hitting on me.
Speaker 2: She's like, you better try that ship.
Speaker 3: I don't know what made her say that, but I
Speaker 3: was like, okay, maybe I should type shit. And so
Speaker 3: I I see this, uh craiglist.
Speaker 2: This is craiglist shit.
Speaker 3: I see a ad from a girl female I'm female
Speaker 3: form female on Craiglist. And it was just like a
Speaker 3: girl was just like I like anime and like chill
Speaker 3: it and I'm just looking for like cool, chill people.
Speaker 2: And she was like a black girl to like anime.
Speaker 2: I want to chill, And I was like, I want
Speaker 2: to chill. So you like anime porn and actually I
Speaker 2: don't watch. I don't like no cartoon porn. I don't
Speaker 2: like no fake three D. I don't understand that, but neither.
Speaker 2: This is not my thing.
Speaker 1: But but you subscribe to.
Speaker 2: It, that's the one I should subscribe to.
Speaker 3: You.
Speaker 2: They probably need the most help.
Speaker 1: No, oh wrong, okay, no, like who are the cartoons?
Speaker 2: When the fuck is that money going? Like I don't
Speaker 2: even know anying about it, so I can't really speak
Speaker 2: on it.
Speaker 3: But no, so she she So I hang out with
Speaker 3: the girl and I'm like, oh cool, Like this vibe
Speaker 3: was cool. I think it's I think that's why I
Speaker 3: like pop up And I'm kind of like, all, I'm
Speaker 3: all in tight tight, you know, it's like we're gonna
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna just do it.
Speaker 1: Did you start to make out or you the one
Speaker 1: who did the first move?
Speaker 2: Did you kiss?
Speaker 3: I think she kissed me first, but I was like,
Speaker 3: once we was kissing, it was like we kiss so
Speaker 3: you fucked, so we fucked?
Speaker 2: Went dad or her?
Speaker 1: That's the first time you've done anything with the first
Speaker 1: time anything, so were you like navigating through that, We're
Speaker 1: like do you were like, I don't know if this
Speaker 1: is I haven't done it, but I'm just I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna figure it out because you're also a female, so
Speaker 1: we know what we like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And also because I was like the boy one,
Speaker 3: I was like, ain't no wrong to be looking like
Speaker 3: you don't know what you're doing?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 3: Is that identified in the beginning of like the roles
Speaker 3: that are being played, it's identified by how I dress
Speaker 3: like that and just how you okay, yeah, just how
Speaker 3: I show it?
Speaker 1: But also like that is how you are, like how
Speaker 1: you show up, but it's like sexually sometimes that role
Speaker 1: and they may not be and.
Speaker 2: Not in black households. That's we don't do that. You know,
Speaker 2: how you show up? How you better be? We don't
Speaker 2: pay that questions.
Speaker 3: Then you know, maybe once you're married for a long
Speaker 3: time you could turn over and be.
Speaker 2: Like stick you better you better show up how you
Speaker 2: show up? Correct? Right?
Speaker 3: So, so did this at this point because this is
Speaker 3: also you don't know what's going on, and you also
Speaker 3: have never done anything, and I.
Speaker 2: Don't know if it's good or bad. I never even
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: But this is also like exactly. So is mouth things.
Speaker 3: These aren't like nos, just off the fingers mouthed.
Speaker 1: So she sat on your face or just open her legs.
Speaker 2: I don't think she sat on my face. So she
Speaker 2: you just opened her legs.
Speaker 1: I think I just was like that, Yeah she opened
Speaker 1: her legs. Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, I think she's
Speaker 1: going back right now.
Speaker 2: How you doing?
Speaker 1: It's going back to the memories of.
Speaker 2: Like, let me really tell the truth. I know.
Speaker 3: That's like I know you want to do don't Lieeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't think.
Speaker 2: I don't think she sat on my face?
Speaker 1: Okay, And so what was the first taste, Like, like,
Speaker 1: were you convinced at that point like this is where
Speaker 1: I should be absolutely, because you're like this is more
Speaker 1: for me than what the man.
Speaker 3: It was like every time I was like I was, yes,
Speaker 3: she was like reacting to it, and I was like,
Speaker 3: oh I want to do this to mad like that's
Speaker 3: crazy I want to make.
Speaker 2: I was like this is nuts. Absolutely for sure, for sure.
Speaker 1: Okay, do you think comedians are better and bad?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 2: Why?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: I think we're just very thoughtful people. Is that what
Speaker 2: you're thinking?
Speaker 3: We're thinking a lot, We're thinking a lot, we're considering
Speaker 3: a lot.
Speaker 2: We're analyzing a lot. We're very observant. We listen.
Speaker 3: Well, all right, you know you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: because we're a kind of picking up on ship, you know,
Speaker 3: so I think that helps.
Speaker 2: Craziest place you've ever had sex.
Speaker 3: A parking lot outside like a like an outdoor like
Speaker 3: parking lot by club.
Speaker 2: When it was like letting out.
Speaker 3: All right, I'm chill, freaky question. I don't like that
Speaker 3: you asked me that because anything I say is corny.
Speaker 1: Bro, it's not that means maybe maybe you can spice
Speaker 1: up your life.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean that's all like a lot to me. All right,
Speaker 3: let's do freaky questions.
Speaker 1: All right, what's the nastiest, freakiest thing you've ever done
Speaker 1: in bed?
Speaker 2: Oh? No, what is it?
Speaker 1: Come on, we want the truth, give it to us.
Speaker 2: I like I like x that I speak French.
Speaker 3: And we were bigger like a like of of our guard,
Speaker 3: like like like of our guard like video type like
Speaker 3: we were just fucking around, make it freaky videos and
Speaker 3: fucking and ship and I fucked with that the open
Speaker 3: and not just whoa.
Speaker 2: But it's not like she got some girls, just jesus.
Speaker 3: But it's not like Champagne in it and like I
Speaker 3: fucked her with it and then we drank it and
Speaker 3: then we fun.
Speaker 2: I think that's like a spitting them off. Now that's freaky.
Speaker 2: So I think I would say, yeah, that was the
Speaker 2: most like we do stuff again. I don't want to
Speaker 2: do none of this week. I'm not, man, go ahead,
Speaker 2: what's wrong? Go ahead? What are you pouting about?
Speaker 3: Because you're not gonna feel like none of my stuff
Speaker 3: is freaky?
Speaker 1: But why like for me is it a I am
Speaker 1: not a judge or jury over here, So what you
Speaker 1: do is what you do.
Speaker 2: All I could do is stimulate you to make it.
Speaker 3: It's just like I was putting you on the spot,
Speaker 3: like YO, tell me like the funniest joke you told.
Speaker 2: I know you lay it.
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, okay, I know it's like and I
Speaker 3: would still be like, I'm fucking funny.
Speaker 2: And if you didn't think it was funny, fuck you
Speaker 2: too the funny. But it's all good times.
Speaker 1: I don't feel like for me, it's like, let's say this,
Speaker 1: I got into porn for a reason and my freakiest
Speaker 1: times is what I did import because it was a
Speaker 1: comfortable and safe space. So my personal freakiness. You may
Speaker 1: not think it is, but I am freaky.
Speaker 2: But who knows? You know? This is a safe space? Sure,
Speaker 2: all right?
Speaker 1: Would you say you're more dominant or submissive in the
Speaker 1: bedroom or does it depend on the vibe? Have you
Speaker 1: ever obviously you exude this dominance you talk about this
Speaker 1: strap on and like being that one whatever, But has
Speaker 1: there ever been a time where it's been a switched
Speaker 1: role in a sense and not where you've been strapped
Speaker 1: on but or be But like, I.
Speaker 3: Think I definitely have like a more submissive side, but
Speaker 3: I have to like really fuck with you for you
Speaker 3: to get that.
Speaker 2: So would you.
Speaker 1: Be in a relationship with someone who is more dominant
Speaker 1: than you in a sense of where like you were
Speaker 1: getting fucked maybe not all the time.
Speaker 2: But half and half like with straveling possibly.
Speaker 1: Whatever y'all's comfortability was, because I feel like there's different levels, right,
Speaker 1: But what do.
Speaker 2: You mean by like just defying fucked? I get for you?
Speaker 1: I think sometimes when you say fucked, like there's a
Speaker 1: power move for you, right, And I think that that's
Speaker 1: why there's a disconnect of why you think your saltiness
Speaker 1: behind what you're facialist right now? But as far as
Speaker 1: like being damned by your partner at certain times, and
Speaker 1: that could be just being fucked.
Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean there's anything to that. No, But
Speaker 2: I'm saying, like, do you mean he's getting fingered?
Speaker 1: Do you mean it could be That's what I'm saying
Speaker 1: at the level.
Speaker 2: The levels could be far.
Speaker 1: It could be like I don't know your boundaries, so
Speaker 1: I don't know you're sometimes you could be a switch hitter, right,
Speaker 1: so maybe you can be fucked not okay, So then
Speaker 1: that's your truth, so that that's what thing is. So
Speaker 1: maybe it's fingers, maybe it's dominant of how she speaks
Speaker 1: to you, or whatever my thing is. I don't mind
Speaker 1: that sense of like, is there ever a time where
Speaker 1: a partner could domn you in a sexual sense where
Speaker 1: you could be submissive and still get off to that.
Speaker 3: I if I guess I'm being dombed, Like if I'm
Speaker 3: being dombed, but my ego still being a stroke, like
Speaker 3: if it's like you gonna it's good and you're gonna
Speaker 3: do what I say.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, So you still need the validation of knowing
Speaker 1: that you're still the dominant one in the scenario, even
Speaker 1: if you're being fucked.
Speaker 2: We don't have to have a whole other session.
Speaker 3: After this because doctor Texas has a lot of I
Speaker 3: don't I don't like this, but uh, speak your truth, though,
Speaker 3: say with your chest.
Speaker 1: Don't sneaky strap on.
Speaker 2: You don't sniggy strap on me.
Speaker 3: I guess, I guess, I guess, but.
Speaker 2: Don't I guess? And why?
Speaker 3: Like I walked you into a corner, I wanted to
Speaker 3: be No, you wouldn't walk me into a corner.
Speaker 2: But I mean, you're you're a sling. Your assessment is
Speaker 2: correct because I still want to feel like the thing.
Speaker 2: So no, no part of you.
Speaker 3: And again this is just the hypothetical least not even
Speaker 3: that I'm the thing. But at least that's why that's
Speaker 3: like maybe it is on the thing, because it's.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, that it made you dominant.
Speaker 1: So now let me ask you this, And I'm a
Speaker 1: pathetical question, right, So what if I and I fucked
Speaker 1: you with this strap on and I fucked the ship
Speaker 1: out of you? Would you allow that this is like me?
Speaker 1: It's not this is me putting like you said, like,
Speaker 1: it's the sense of me putting on a strap on
Speaker 1: without your knowledge, but knowing that I'm being in a
Speaker 1: sexual setting with you, right strap happen? Yes, So I'm
Speaker 1: doing that. That's why I'm saying sneaky because it's like
Speaker 1: I'm not just being like, hey, I'm gonna go put
Speaker 1: this strap on you. It's me like presenting something that's
Speaker 1: already being done. Right a words, everybody's copaesthetic. Would that
Speaker 1: be something you would entertain or have you ever?
Speaker 2: I've never. I can't say it's impossible.
Speaker 3: I would really really really really really have to be
Speaker 3: fucking with you.
Speaker 1: Okay, So for you at that point, it's because it's
Speaker 1: because it's it's more.
Speaker 3: And then I don't know how much I would even
Speaker 3: how long I would be able to entertain it.
Speaker 2: Okay, But that.
Speaker 1: Speaks again a lot because of the sense of that means.
Speaker 2: For you, you.
Speaker 1: Could never have loss of self control to make you allowed.
Speaker 1: But I because yeah, but not if I was in
Speaker 1: control of the You have to be in control your
Speaker 1: own on anybody's factor, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: That's probably very true, and.
Speaker 1: That I mean, that's not something that's not uncommon in
Speaker 1: myself included like you know, in other ways. Is like
Speaker 1: if I would say too, it's like there's people who
Speaker 1: are good fucking me, right, But it's also I allow
Speaker 1: you to be able to fuck me, not only physically,
Speaker 1: but mentally, to un tap the wild or diabolical whatever
Speaker 1: side that comes out of those things, so the freaky
Speaker 1: comes out. I'm just asking, Yah, see where we're at.
Speaker 1: Do you like dirty top?
Speaker 2: Yes? Do you like it being given or do you
Speaker 2: like to receive it? Okay? Does that make it? Yes?
Speaker 1: If you had to rank your oral game on a
Speaker 1: scale of one to ten.
Speaker 2: What would it be. It's hi past ten, past ten.
Speaker 1: Oh, so it's off the Richter scale.
Speaker 2: That's how confident.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's out there and the it's like cloud, you
Speaker 3: don't know where the is.
Speaker 1: Okay, worst hookup story you've ever had?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that was I was.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 3: I don't want to say I was down bad, but
Speaker 3: I was in a space and I was I was
Speaker 3: engaging in activities with with a lady. I shouldn't have
Speaker 3: been for a multitude of reasons.
Speaker 1: Okay, was this like a cheating situation?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Just why in a situation ship that you were working
Speaker 1: like this?
Speaker 2: Ain't it? And I noticed saying it?
Speaker 3: And I shouldn't be over here doing this because on
Speaker 3: no level is this what I should be over here doing.
Speaker 3: And yeah, and so she invited me over, and I
Speaker 3: come over, and I was coming from some type of
Speaker 3: comedy thing that was sponsored by Jack Daniels. So I
Speaker 3: had a little book baggy thing with full of bullshit
Speaker 3: Jack Daniels.
Speaker 2: Were you Jack Daniels That.
Speaker 3: I don't drink Jack Jam's, but I was drinking. But
Speaker 3: I don't drink. I can't whiskey scotch. I call those
Speaker 3: things like world like war liquors, like for the veterans,
Speaker 3: Like I don't know, I just you gotta really go
Speaker 3: through some shit to do, like yeah, the way that
Speaker 3: shit hit, I'm like, I haven't lived enough life for
Speaker 3: whatever this is supposed to be for. So I come
Speaker 3: over and she tells.
Speaker 2: Me it's all good. Come by, Da Da Da da.
Speaker 3: And I get there and there's a dude sitting on
Speaker 3: the couch. So I'm like, oh, that must be her
Speaker 3: cousin or some shit.
Speaker 2: He just watch see. He like what up?
Speaker 3: I'm like, what's up? He like she in a room
Speaker 3: and I'm like okay. So I go in her room
Speaker 3: and she closed the door and she like, that's my
Speaker 3: baby daddy. She had a kid too, so kids in
Speaker 3: the other front room. So like the living rooms here,
Speaker 3: there's a front room here, there's a kitchen here, and
Speaker 3: then her bedroom's here, so her kids in that room
Speaker 3: in his like playpen or whatever whatever cage she had
Speaker 3: this kid in.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, that's red flag never won.
Speaker 3: I'm like, what it was latest fuck for the kid
Speaker 3: to be in the place. I think he might have
Speaker 3: been in his crib, but he was just up. But anyway,
Speaker 3: I'm like, that's your baby daddy, and she's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: he about to leave.
Speaker 2: Da da da da da. They would been. They had
Speaker 2: been fighting. She was like this nigga da da dada.
Speaker 2: He been fighting, like you know. And I'm like, holy shit,
Speaker 2: did she did she introduce you to baby daddy? No,
Speaker 2: I just said with something, thinking he was just somebody.
Speaker 3: And then came in the room and she starts breaking
Speaker 3: down to me they've been fighting. He about to go,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I'm out of here, bitch, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, And she's like, no, don't go. And
Speaker 3: my homi had dropped off. This is like early comedy.
Speaker 3: I'm broke, you know what I'm saying. I'm all the
Speaker 3: way kind of out of town a little bit with it.
Speaker 3: Like I'm in Cambridge Ways, out of Boston. I was like, chilling,
Speaker 3: was gonna fuck get up in the morning and get
Speaker 3: out earlyer type shit. So my homie don't left, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I'm like, fuck, bro, I don't
Speaker 3: even I'm stuck in this bitch kind of like fuck.
Speaker 3: So I'm like before.
Speaker 1: I think, so okay, because that that is the whole
Speaker 1: other child.
Speaker 3: But even if it was uber, I couldn't afford it, okay,
Speaker 3: but I.
Speaker 2: Think it was.
Speaker 1: I think it was you don't have a lot of
Speaker 1: options basically regardless of yeah, get out.
Speaker 2: So I'm like I'm bouncing. She's like, no, please, he
Speaker 2: really about to leave. We good? We chilling d D.
Speaker 2: So like I'm like, cool, I like, take off my pants.
Speaker 2: I'm laying in the bed.
Speaker 3: We like watching TV, just like talking and ship. She's
Speaker 3: kind of like touching on me. Whatever, it's still there,
Speaker 3: He's I guess still there. Like at some point I'm
Speaker 3: just like, whatever is about to happen with this dude
Speaker 3: is about to happen with this dude. Then the next
Speaker 3: thing I know, this motherfucker banging on the door. Boom boom, boom, boom, boom,
Speaker 3: y'all fucking in there. I'm like, what the fuck? He
Speaker 3: was like, he's heating the door hard. He's like, you
Speaker 3: got a dyke in there? Are you about to fuck
Speaker 3: with my son in the house? And I'm like, I
Speaker 3: don't even have a promotional backpack.
Speaker 2: I got through Jack Daniel's.
Speaker 3: I'm just like, I'm like, yo, what the She's like,
Speaker 3: don't worry about So she comes up.
Speaker 2: It's like, fuck you.
Speaker 1: You needn't get the fuck out.
Speaker 2: He's like, fuck you, bitch. D She comes back and
Speaker 2: I'm on close the door, like, don't worrybody. He about
Speaker 2: to leave.
Speaker 3: I'm now I'm in my pants. Time she went out
Speaker 3: and came back. I'm up, I got my pants back on.
Speaker 3: I'm sitting up on the bed I got I'm putting
Speaker 3: on my shoes. I'm like, nah, I'm not doing this
Speaker 3: with you, bitch. So boom, this motherfucker kicks in the
Speaker 3: door of the bedroom and he's like, bitch, I'll kill
Speaker 3: you in your so as he goes towards her, I
Speaker 3: just walk around him and walk out.
Speaker 2: So I walk out. I walk out the work. I
Speaker 2: don't know you enough to save you. I need to go,
Speaker 2: Ready to go. I walk out the for at door.
Speaker 2: I'm standing on the fuck like street. I'm blowing my
Speaker 2: nigga up.
Speaker 3: They not answering. I'm blowing them up. I'm like, fuck,
Speaker 3: what the fuck?
Speaker 2: I heard them arguing with Da Da.
Speaker 3: He's like, bitch, what the fuck you like you bout
Speaker 3: a guy here? If I call the police on you, you
Speaker 3: know you're on probation type shit, I'll get your fucking
Speaker 3: ass locked up. He's like, you try to get me back,
Speaker 3: you stupid bitch. So d d Son he he he
Speaker 3: runs out the crib, like out the back.
Speaker 2: Then he run back in. Of course, so he goes out.
Speaker 2: He's out.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, cool, this shit's over with this.
Speaker 2: Hope we don't run off. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: He ain't coming back to this motherfucker. It's all gravy.
Speaker 2: He came back. Be back in the room. Your pans
Speaker 2: are off. I'm back. I'm back at you. No, we
Speaker 2: in the living room.
Speaker 3: Were in the living room, uh like, were in the
Speaker 3: living room chilling and we sit on couch and and
Speaker 3: she's like, please stay like it ain't that.
Speaker 2: He gone Sa Da Da Da Da blah blah blah
Speaker 2: blah blah whatever whatever. Were talking.
Speaker 3: She talked about how Ki she said, all this shit
Speaker 3: she feels about him. This nigga comes out of the
Speaker 3: baby room, like he went around, came through the baby window.
Speaker 2: It was in there.
Speaker 3: I think by the time I even came back in
Speaker 3: the house because she had to convince me to come
Speaker 3: back in from.
Speaker 2: The street first. So we was there. Bro. So she's
Speaker 2: saying like fuck him, da da da, and he can
Speaker 2: bust on the paper. I'm like, I'm bat nigga.
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, this is a this is.
Speaker 2: Fun a hook up word.
Speaker 3: So she really calls the police this time because she's like,
Speaker 3: I'm not playing with you.
Speaker 2: So he's like, you really try to get me back.
Speaker 2: I hate you. I'm never coming back. So he leaves.
Speaker 2: So I stayed and then I left the next morning.
Speaker 3: So yeah, but like you were over it already. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's traumatic.
Speaker 1: I felt bad for you.
Speaker 2: That's a lot crazy. I mean, that's a lot. It was.
Speaker 2: It was nuts. It was nuts.
Speaker 3: There was a lot of times I didn't know what
Speaker 3: was gonna happen, but I had just I had already
Speaker 3: just done so much.
Speaker 2: And then at some point it was like you might
Speaker 2: as well just hit bro. Let's be honest.
Speaker 1: If you if you had a you could have afford the uber,
Speaker 1: you would have been out the first time the first.
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, absolutely my post. That's the bullshit. My poverty
Speaker 2: kept me there for real. Hey, but it maybe stronger?
Speaker 2: It did it? Did it? Did? That's work? You know
Speaker 2: what I mean? Well, that's truth with Texas. You know
Speaker 2: we have ran on a sketchy note. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. But I want you to ask missus Texas
Speaker 2: two questions. What you got from me? Damn?
Speaker 1: I put you on the spot. You did so well.
Speaker 1: You know, you broke it down. You really played truth
Speaker 1: to Texas. The whole game too.
Speaker 2: Two joints. Okay, I want them to be good me too.
Speaker 2: Don't make me dead it real quick? No no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: I don't want to. I want you to have to think.
Speaker 2: That's why this is hard. Think Gemini is tough. Okay.
Speaker 1: You see how I didn't even do you dirty. I
Speaker 1: didn't even ask you about your situation you did.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that you're a good person. I really appreciate that.
Speaker 2: A what.
Speaker 3: Because you you are having sex and being open and
Speaker 3: being sexual in like public space.
Speaker 2: I would that.
Speaker 3: Feels public, right, would you call a camera crew people
Speaker 3: looking at shit kind of public?
Speaker 2: Right? The world sees me? Five?
Speaker 3: Yeah, What does privacy look like for you?
Speaker 2: What is privacy for you?
Speaker 1: Privacy for me is my personal life. For me is
Speaker 1: I give so much of myself like for work and
Speaker 1: like sexual things like on you know, film and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. I hadn't shot porn in over five like
Speaker 1: plus years, and then I did my own stuff for
Speaker 1: my only fans, So I do that.
Speaker 2: Types of stuff.
Speaker 1: But it's like doing it my in my own way, right,
Speaker 1: So like I feel like it's intimacy. I think intimacy
Speaker 1: to me is not a part of porn. Porn is
Speaker 1: more sexual and like very like animalistic and primal, where
Speaker 1: it's like that's why I like make you know, the
Speaker 1: joke of like I'm a sexual athlete, like I'm doing
Speaker 1: a job, but there's no emotion, there's no like that
Speaker 1: where it's like in my personal time there's emotion and
Speaker 1: there's more like feeling towards and no one's watching you.
Speaker 1: It's more closed up where it's like porn, it's like
Speaker 1: more being like advertised. So it's like you can't like
Speaker 1: you're you're opening up to the camera, You're not fucking
Speaker 1: like you would normally fuck someone at home. So it's
Speaker 1: like those intimate times in between. It's what's it is
Speaker 1: for me.
Speaker 3: The intimate sex times, intimacy just period, Yeah, intimacy period period.
Speaker 3: I feel like for me, porn for myself isn't intimate,
Speaker 3: it's sexual, where my personal life is more intimate and personal.
Speaker 2: I will follow, but I don't want it to be
Speaker 2: my second question.
Speaker 3: You can have follow then okay, so then do you
Speaker 3: could you ever see yourself? Because you know, like with
Speaker 3: reality TeV and stuff like that, people are giving away
Speaker 3: that intimacy. Is that intimacy so sacred for you that
Speaker 3: you could not do that?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: I've been asked a lot to be on reality TV
Speaker 1: things and whatever.
Speaker 2: For me, I feel like I could.
Speaker 3: Play more of a producer roles because for me, then
Speaker 3: now you're really being more intimate into my private life,
Speaker 3: and that's something that I'm not really willing to give up.
Speaker 1: For me, is I like my private space. I like
Speaker 1: to allow people. Even with my podcast, it's allowed me
Speaker 1: to be more vulnerable, but also like talk about my
Speaker 1: personal times that I wouldn't have to talk about within
Speaker 1: porn and those things like that, because I don't talk
Speaker 1: about those things with my coworkers because what's the point.
Speaker 1: We're fucking right. So for me is I like to
Speaker 1: keep the the Alexis and the Alexis Texas separate. Like before,
Speaker 1: I didn't feel like there was ever There wasn't a divide.
Speaker 1: And now within the last for me, like five years,
Speaker 1: I definitely had to focus on boundaries of what was
Speaker 1: my time with my friends, my family and this, and
Speaker 1: then what's work time and what I'm allowing to show
Speaker 1: on both sides. All of them are authentic. It's just
Speaker 1: for me is because I give so much. It's something
Speaker 1: that is so sexually intimate to most people. Is why
Speaker 1: I have to have such big boundaries for my personal intimacy.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, so now this is I got to ask
Speaker 3: a question to get to the question, just understand something.
Speaker 3: How did you grow up? Like did you grow religious?
Speaker 3: Did you grow up conserved? Like?
Speaker 2: How did you grow up so religious?
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say like we're god based, like we have
Speaker 1: a got you know, I mean, but it wasn't like
Speaker 1: one religion or the other. What I liked is that
Speaker 1: we did go to church, but it was more of
Speaker 1: like like like Easter and likes like those types of
Speaker 1: things where it was like celebratory type of moments, not
Speaker 1: throughout the year, within that time. Like I also like
Speaker 1: growing up, I took a religious class and so I
Speaker 1: like kind of try to find my faith within those things.
Speaker 1: I feel like with all of that, I'm more spiritual
Speaker 1: than anything. But what I love about my family is
Speaker 1: there just allow us to have the space to be
Speaker 1: who we are and accepting of who we are, especially
Speaker 1: even with my profession. It's like I was never like
Speaker 1: ostracized or never made to feel different, even though the
Speaker 1: choice of career that I did choose was never made
Speaker 1: to me to feel like I was an outsider. I
Speaker 1: think it was more internal problems where I felt that
Speaker 1: I was going to be that before I was ever
Speaker 1: felt that way.
Speaker 3: So yeah, okay, so have you ever felt because people, oh,
Speaker 3: if you're a porn star, like you're just letting me
Speaker 3: a fuck you, that's crazy, you're just getting like used
Speaker 3: up and that's nuts, and you're just run through trash.
Speaker 2: Right, what I feel like you came into I don't
Speaker 2: know how you came into it. Bad filu.
Speaker 3: You're just which it was kind of like show themselves
Speaker 3: and empowered and it's doing what they want in porn.
Speaker 2: Have you ever felt like that moment?
Speaker 3: Have you had that space where like you're like, I'm
Speaker 3: just being used right now and like this is fucked.
Speaker 2: I think that people want me to feel that way.
Speaker 1: I think that people, you know, have misconstrued Again. Why again,
Speaker 1: even when I go back to like communication and with
Speaker 1: my show, is that you know, communication is a powerful thing.
Speaker 1: You know, we may agree, we may disagree, but there's
Speaker 1: a common ground of what real is real and what
Speaker 1: is Everybody's the truth? Right for me, I would say,
Speaker 1: just like every business, do you feel used in moments
Speaker 1: because people get over on you and certain things because.
Speaker 2: You don't know things.
Speaker 1: Yes, but it's used as my body have always been
Speaker 1: willingly known.
Speaker 3: What I signed that moment is for you important, like
Speaker 3: because I think people would assume it's a sexual moment,
Speaker 3: but I imagine it's.
Speaker 2: Not for me. It's more.
Speaker 1: The empowerment of what I gained from my sexuality. My
Speaker 1: sexuality gave me a space to kind of encumber the
Speaker 1: woman that I was meant to be. I feel like
Speaker 1: sex to me is very powerful, but not in the
Speaker 1: sense of a diabolical way, but really like educational as
Speaker 1: well as like in tune of like what your needs
Speaker 1: and wants are and like bottom line, and I'm very
Speaker 1: against spiritual and empathetic of or like just an impath
Speaker 1: of life and energy and what that all brings is
Speaker 1: that we all are made up of the same things
Speaker 1: and we all want the same things. Some people, you know,
Speaker 1: harbor those things differently, some people suppress them. For me
Speaker 1: is I would rather live an authentic life and be
Speaker 1: open and honest and free with myself of my body
Speaker 1: and my way. And that's what porn allowed me to do,
Speaker 1: was to do it in a safe space. Is also
Speaker 1: why for me is what's important with my message of
Speaker 1: my podcast is allowing guests like yourself and like and
Speaker 1: I also feel like like comedian, like comedians and porn stars,
Speaker 1: I have a lot of similarities. I've had a lot
Speaker 1: of comedic friends throughout the time. But it's almost like
Speaker 1: a sense of there's an understanding of just business, but
Speaker 1: who we are creatives and not where it's like you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes we know and we not know everything, but it's
Speaker 1: like it's also in our own way, and you know,
Speaker 1: that's what like, I feel like entrepreneurs of what you
Speaker 1: are in.
Speaker 2: Your craft, you kind of just figure that out.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of what I did in my in
Speaker 1: my field, and my thing is that it just allowed
Speaker 1: me to figure out who I wanted to be sexually
Speaker 1: as a female and like a feminine