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Speaker 1: Welcome back everyone to a new episode of You Were

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Wrong with Molly Hemingway, editor and chief of the Federalist

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and David Harsani, senior writer at The Washington Examiner. Just

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as a reminder, if you'd like to email the show,

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please do so at radio at the Federalist dot com.

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We'd love to hear from you. Molly. It's nice to

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have you back this week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we had planned for me not to be on

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last week because I was taping the recording the audiobook

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for my book Alito, which is coming out in April.

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And in the meantime, also my beloved father died and

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I've talked about my dad a lot on the podcast.

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He's this larger than life figure and very dear to

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everyone in my family large extended family. We had a

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beautiful funeral. It was just awesome, overflowing at my parents' church.

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My dad's a pastor, so there were like twenty clergy

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that came from nearby churches to honor my father and

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we're part of the processional. We had great hymns. It

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was just a really beautiful service and people came from

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all over. Like my parents have several godchildren, and two

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of their godchildren came and one of them drove up

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from Arizona. He said he keeps up with the family

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on the podcast, so I was like, oh, I have

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to make sure I'm keeping him updated. But it was

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just great. And yeah, I mean, I will say that

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my cousin, Kimberly, her dad died in late July, and

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my brother and I were talking to her and we

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were like, we had no idea what were going through.

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Like we were there at the funeral, we offered condolences,

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but we just had no idea. And then I keep

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thinking like, oh my gosh, if it hurts this bad

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when your dad dies, what happens when a spouse dies,

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Like I'm definitely going to be much more, try to

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be much more helpful to people when loved ones die,

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because we've gotten so much help from people, and it's

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just beautiful.

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Speaker 1: I read the obituary. I'm not sure if you had

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wrote it or someone else. I read it.

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Speaker 2: My sister wrote it with help from a bunch of

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other people.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, he lived an amazing life in the service

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of his community. So I think if you are listening,

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you should seek out and read the obituary of Molly's

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days Larry Larry's Elther Larry Ziegler.

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Speaker 2: Oh wait, can I tell you something really quickly. We've

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been going through all of his papers and so my

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dad knew he wanted to be a Lutheran pastor from

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the age of eleven, and he was this amazing pastor

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who helped so many people. And my mother is I

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jokingly call her the world's worst pastor's wife, Like most

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pastors wives are. They're the organist, or they're they run

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the Sunday school program, or they do what my mom

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was like, I'll show up at church on Sunday. You know,

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that's what my contribution is. But my mother was always

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like a super Republican type person, and my dad and

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his family were big time Democrats. So we were going

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through his scrap book from childhood, which is amazing by

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the way, childhood through college, and he really liked LBJ.

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And my sister and I are like, well, I guess

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dad wasn't perfect. You know, there was a I mean,

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he like has pictures of him and he has cutouts

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about what a great president he was. And he later

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became not just Republican but kind of very Republican, mostly

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during the Reagan administration.

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Speaker 1: I would say, Mark and I, your wonderful husband, did

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the show last week, and we got some letters. People

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were not happy that we were in agreeance so often

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and that we were so reasonable, and then we had

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this conversation without any of your wrong arguments. One guy wrote,

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which is my favorite email, that we sounded like two

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old men speaking at a hardware store, which to me

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sounds like a wonderful idea for a podcast. I have

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to be honest, because guys at hardware stores know a

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lot they really do.

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Speaker 2: Right, well, we'll fight, we'll fight about something. Do you

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have to tell me what the news is and then

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I'll fight about it with you.

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Speaker 1: I should lie to you.

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Speaker 3: The uh.

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Speaker 1: The next logical topic is bad Bunny, right the super

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Bowl halft, I'm sure. I remember last year. I didn't

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know who Kendrick Lamar was, and he was like the

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really streameder. That's exactly what you said at the time,

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and he was the most streamed artist. But the most

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streamed artist actually is bad Bunny is he has like

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some massive number of streamers. He has fifty one point

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seven subscribers I think on YouTube, nineteen of his videos

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had over one billion views, which is just insane because

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I could not have named a song that he sang.

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Apparently I couldn't name it anyway because I don't speak Spanish.

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But anyway, super Bowl I think was subpar this year,

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and the game itself. Didn't really enjoy it that much.

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But I thought the halftime show became a litmus test

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for what kind of like where you stand on immigration

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and assimilation and all this stuff. And I think it's

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just I don't know. Let me just ask, did you

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watch any of that? Did you get a chance to

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see it?

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Speaker 2: I watched zero of the Super Bowl. My mother did

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not have cable at that time, which was a saga

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all of its own, and so I didn't see any

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of it. Nor did I feel like I missed it out.

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I'm I'm not the well. I think it was a

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weird choice for a halftime show, mostly because and I

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do speak Spanish by the way, and grew up in

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a Spanish speaking community. I think it's weird for an

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American super Bowl to have an artist who sings only

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in English and actually are only in Spanish, and that

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on that note, actually, I think it's weird to have

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an artist who doesn't hit a wide swath of appeal.

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I know the NFL has been taking its like base,

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its regular base for granted, and they're always like trying

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to reach new audiences, foreign audience's, Latin audiences, whatever. But

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I think it was like just an embarrassing mistake by

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the NFL. And I don't say that as someone who

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hates Bad Bunny or anything like that. I don't like him.

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I think he's kind of like but I am very

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gen x about this. Like, I think it's always suspect

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when someone has a large number of you know, Spotify followers,

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something like a sort of code for not great. I

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thought it was like, hihilarious that all of these people

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who care so deeply about what people think about them

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were like, no, no, no, I like Bad Bunny. I'm like, no,

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you don't. I mean it's repetitive. It's in Spanish. You

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don't speak Spanish. You don't like this. You're just trying

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to make people think you're okay by saying you like them. Ye,

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so I didn't really, I don't know, I don't really care,

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like I I know, it's hard to book the Super

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Bowl halftime. I think maybe they should go back into

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more like Medley type stuff where you have a variety

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of artists or something, because that would also be kind

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of exciting if you were at a Super Bowl party

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and you know, you got your country artist, you got

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your rap artist, and you got your bad bunny, and

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you got you know, you could like mix it up.

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But I just think it was a mistake by the NFL,

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and that it really was a mistake because they had

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an alternative program that got like a sizeable number of

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views given that it was only on YouTube. I think,

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so now you're going to start seeing I'm sure more

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alternative programming during halftime, particularly the easier it is to

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do that, do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can stream and just create your own programming

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on YouTube and get a ton of people. I have

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a few things to say. I think you're right. I

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don't think the NFL is like, I don't think this

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was a political statement as much.

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Speaker 2: As I do, absolutely, But I just think they're.

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Speaker 1: Trying to internationalize the game. I mean, there was like

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tons of European games they're trying to spread to Mexico.

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I think that that is there are capitalistic reasons that

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probably drove this more than good all wanting to get

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statement about immigration or whatever. But I've kind of taken

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aback at how meh. The whole thing is like I

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can appreciate like I'm old. It's not aimed at me,

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I get it. But I can appreciate music that I

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don't love. I can't believe this is like the most

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popular musician, and honestly, I sound like a cranky old

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man at a hardware store. Again, it's hard for me

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to even call this guy a musician because he's almost

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not even rapping, just speaking.

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Speaker 2: I saw this Twitter thread from Democratic Socialists of America

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and it was going through like all the political meaning

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behind what Bad Bunny's performance was, and a call to

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end the colonialism in Puerto Rico by the United States,

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and I just want to say I agree with that.

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I think I think Puerto Rico is not doing the

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best with what they have. I have been there, and

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I love Puerto Rico. I think it's like a beautiful island.

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loan ads that were on the teleelevision while I was there.

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It's like there's not a lot of financial literacy there.

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I guess there's you know, like just bad problems there

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and the amount of money we give to Puerto Rico,

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and I agree that it has like strategic import and

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has for a very long time. I mean, some of

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the cool things to see in Puerto Rico are the

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forts that are guarding that area. But I think we

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need to do better. And they definitely, like people that

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can't operate their lives as well as they should be

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should not be welcomed into the United States as like

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a state until they get that back together.

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Speaker 1: No more states, no more states. And this is a

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welfare state already. We don't need any more states.

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Speaker 2: Like super welfare state.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah it is. So this whole thing became

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a litmus test for like where you stand on I

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sent immigration and all this stuff. I want to talk

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about one of my favorite tweets that I saw on

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this at the time, and it's from David from who people

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probably know that is it's a picture of Joe DiMaggio

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with Eisenhower and Rocky Marciano in an event looks like

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at the White House, and he says, President Eisenhower posing

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in nineteen fifty three with Joe Dimagio and Rocky Marciano.

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I ask you to imagine a nineteen fifties Republican who

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didn't live in a lunatic asylum getting upset when he

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saw Italian American stars on his TV.

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Speaker 2: I feel like we all know David Brumm is not

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as stupid as he's trying to make himself seem with

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a tweet like that, and like we should just acknowledge

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that he's a much smarter individual than that tweet would indicate.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, okay, But I think it reflected a lot

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of the arguments people were making when they make these

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comparisons about immigration in the past. And hey, I know,

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you know growing up in certain areas that there were

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a lot of Italian festivals, people would speak in Italian.

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That's not like, you know, people embrace their culture, don't

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think there's anything wrong with it. But these three, these

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people when they met, I think this was the war.

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Let me put it this way. I think this was

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the worst example you could give. Because Joe DiMaggio's parents

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were off the boat. He spoke English without an accent.

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He became a legend in the most American sport and

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the most American thing you can imagine, which is baseball.

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He was completely assimilated. He was the perfect example of

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someone who embraced America.

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Speaker 2: And yet also I think the equivalent too would be like, Okay,

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so let's say you could imagine a world in which,

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you know, I know, the super Bowl wasn't doing halftime

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shows like this. You could imagine a world where Frank

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Sinatra would sing at the halftime show, right sure. And

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David Frump's tweet is like saying, imagine someone getting upset

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that pop star and Italian actress and singer Mina was

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singing at the super Bowl because Mina sang an Italian

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and Frank Sinatra sang in English. You know what I mean?

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Likes to point there is a thing about pride from

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the culture that you fled to come to the United States.

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language of the place that you came from or adopt

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as your own exclusively, like a fairly narrow cultural idea

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or a neurocultural expression. And I think what we had

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is decades of people and there's a lot to this, right.

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America is a country of immigrants, which is something that

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people said without actually thinking it out or thinking about

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that we actually are a country of Americans, and that

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and hate American identity. And there is an American identity,

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and it is fed by a lot of different things,

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but it's not the same thing as like a narrow

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German identity or a narrow Russian identity, or a narrow

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Irish identity, or a narrow Puerto Rican identity. Like do

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you know what I'm saying, Like, there's it's just it's

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it's not expressive of a global event that is based

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in America.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, to be fair, Puerto Ricans are Americans, right,

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so we should say that.

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Speaker 2: So are so are like you know, Argentinians, But I

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mean it in Puerto Rican it's part of the United

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States of America. I get it. I get it. Yeah, but.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no go. It'd be like Rosemary Clooney singing

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Mambo Italiano, right, like that is a celebration of being Italian.

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But it doesn't feel like an imposition or a demand

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right on the American people to speak Italian all the time.

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And that's what this kind of feels like when he

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is marching at that. You didn't watch it, but like

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he's marching there with everyone. He's got all the flags

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of all the Latin American countries, but that is those

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countries are not America. And when you come here, oh

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he did unless I mean, you know, I was in

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and out. I gotta be honest with you. I found it.

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I found it really boring.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, but also I don't like what people. I mean,

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there is a difference between being a territory of the

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United States and being a state of the United States.

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Speaker 1: No, there is, but I don't. I think the Puerto

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Ricans can can consider themselves American. And unless we want

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to give them their you know, walking papers or you know,

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or make them a stake, it's not their fault that

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they're neither right. They didn't make that choice. So I

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have no problem calling the Puerto Rican an American, and

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the Puerto Rican language is Spanish.

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Speaker 2: I look forward to the biggest artist out of the

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Northern Mariana Islands being the halftime Did you look at that?

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I was like, should I go with American, Samoa or Guam.

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Speaker 1: Let's say, I've been on here many times arguing and

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I think it's super important that people learn English, like

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it is. You're holding yourself back. When you don't know English,

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You're not in you know, you're not assimilating if you

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don't learn English. It's a problem. Also, Italians like New

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York is like or still is and was like a

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clearinghouse for immigrants who came here. You were in that

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little community with people, and then you moved out and

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went away, you went somewhere in America, like, there are

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large areas in this country that are Spanish speaking. That's problematic.

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The number one radio stations and the number one cable

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station I believe are Italian, I mean are Spanish speaking. Actually,

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I don't have.

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Speaker 2: A problem with that at all. I love well. I

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love Spanish. First of all. I think it's a great language.

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I just think that for cultural events that unite the country,

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it should not be in Spanish. But I think, like

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I like listening to Spanish radio and Spanish language.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm not against it. I'm just saying

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that if you want to be successful in this country,

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the world and all that I mean to call common language.

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Everyone knows this and from history is super important for

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people to have if they want to have a consignation.

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Speaker 3: We hear a lot, especially online, about conservatives attacking other conservatives.

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Speaker 2: This is a tangent, but at the funeral, my favorite

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high school teacher saying your aunt was there. He was

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friends with my dad and actually like an elder at

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my dad's church before he retired, saying, your aunt would

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always visit various Spanish speaking countries with his super hot wife.

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She's still very hot, and he would do slide shows

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where we saw, you know, where they went, oh, this

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mayan pyramid or whatever, and it was always funny because

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his super hot wife would be in some of the

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pictures and he'd just be like, look at that, look

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at that, And I loved it.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, yeah, I mean, I yeah, I I. You were

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just talking about immigration, Like, I like that they're all, like,

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it's the flavor of America that people come from all

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different places. Originally they're still American, but they haven't left

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back their tradition, you know, some of their traditions and stuff.

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I love that stuff. I like that my parents spoke Hungarian,

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Like I like that I know that language. You know,

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it is not something I want to get rid of,

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though I don't consider myself Hungarian. I consider myself an

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American for very good reasons. But anyway, I didn't think

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it was that big a deal either way. I just

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think it's one of the like everything has to become

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this massive, political, politicized event, and it is that to

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me is like the most annoying thing that I can

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watch a Super Bowl without having to get into a

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having to write a column about it. Like I'd like

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that if there were things in the world that I

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didn't have to write columns about, like the Olympics. We

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shouldn't have to write a column about the Olympics. I

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am not a huge I am a huge I should

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say I'm a huge fan of team sports. I'm not

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a big fan of individual sports. Not that I don't

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think they should happen, not that I'm not impressed, I

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just don't like watching it. So the Olympics gives me

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something more, like I can root for the American now

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when the American's not there, I can make geopolitical decisions

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on who I root for, like Swiss, or do I

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roote for the French? You know what I mean? Swiss. So,

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but there's a new thing at the Olympics since Donald

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Trump's president, And this thing is we're going to ask

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journalists are going to ask every American athlete if they

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feel bad representing a country that's so awful, that has

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ice rays, that shoots people in the street, and I

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hate when they politicize the Olympics, and it is infuriating

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to me, a champion of free speech, when one of

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these idiots takes the bait and starts ripping Americans on

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foreign soil, I cannot stand it. And that's what this

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skier hunter has did. When he said he had mixed

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emotions about representing the country, it's a little hard. He said.

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There's obviously a lot going on that I'm not the

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biggest fan of, and I think a lot of people aren't.

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Just because you know, I'm wearing the flag doesn't mean

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I represent everything that's going on in the US. Who

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is happy with everything that goes on in their country?

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Do you think the Chinese are? Do you think the

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French are? Like, it's a stupid question and that's a

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stupid answer to give, and it's unpatriotic to do it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I hate when people do this. Well, okay, first off,

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our corporate media are evil, and you know this in

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part because they say, how do you feel about representing

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a country that is the most free in the entire world,

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in which you are free to answer this question in

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a way however you see fit. They don't go hey,

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Eileen Goo, product of the United States of America who's

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a trader to her country and is skiing for China

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or whatever she does. How do you feel about all

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of the horrors that your country, that you betrayed your

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real you know, your United States for to ski for

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How do you feel about what they're doing? How do

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you feel about the imprisoning of Christians. They don't ask

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her because they know she can't answer, and also because

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they're just Democrat radical extremists, right, So, like it would

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be one thing if you were really asking the question

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of everybody, but it's only based on what like Midwi

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New York City reporters think about the world, right, Like,

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it's not it's not anything substantive. And then as for

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any American who says word one against the United States

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of America, I hope they lose and I hope they

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get replaced. I mean, they should never ever be able

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to be part of the team America. And I don't

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care Biden is president or Trump is president or a

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kangaroo as president. You don't talk ill of the United

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States of America. End of story.

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Speaker 1: On foreign soil, Yeah, when you're representing the flag which

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is the I mean as an American, as an ambassador

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of the country. Yeah, like it, come home, go off,

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go off all you want, but you don't go to

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Europe and do it. And that's what they want. They

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want you to bash it. Now. Of course, implicit in

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every question here to US athletes is like something terrible

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is happening here, and you know you have to say

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something because it is like nefarious, beyond belief, worse than

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anything that's happening anywhere else, which is stupid. But here's

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the thing on Eileen Goo. This is so I looked

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her up, and you know how Google AI just comes up.

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I don't know if you know this, but it'll maybe

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turned it off somehow. But everywhere I go, they're shoving

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AI down my throat. I open an email, there's AI.

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I open a word document, there's anyway. This is how

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Google's AI. I think it's called Gemini. This is what

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they told me she is doing. She is competing in

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the twenty twenty six Winter Olympics in Milan, aiming to

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inspire a new generation of Chinese skiers, specifically girls, while

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balancing her Chinese heritage and American upbringing. Like this is

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chicom propaganda. Like you, it's probably word for word chicompropataganda.

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Now the only notable heritage of the Communist state there

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which does not represent the Chinese people or Chinese heritage.

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Communism is a European idea, unfortunately, is that it is

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maybe the most evil regime that has ever existed on Earth.

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I mean, it's definitely in the running. Maybe Stalin, maybe Hitler.

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I think the Chinese are probably worse she this woman

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is worth twenty three million dollars, Like, couldn't she inspire

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Chinese from here? Couldn't she represent Taiwan? You should I

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don't know if you've looked it up, but you should

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read and you should watch the coverage of her, the glowing, unctious,

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like sickening coverage of this woman, who I think also

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is just a trader. They're Americans who have dual citizenship,

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who can't make the US team, who will like play

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for Italy or something like that. It happens, I get it.

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This woman could make the American team. She has no

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reason to be representing a geopolitical foe of the United

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States and the and and a person who criticized Trump

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the other day but has never criticized the concentration camps

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and the young Chinese women who are systematically raped in

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them and used as sports labor, like anyway, So I just,

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I just, I mean, can you imagine a US athlete

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playing for the Soviet Union and like I'm celebrating her

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here in nineteen, you know, seventy six or eighty or

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whatever the Winter Olympics were Just no.

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Speaker 2: But I'm also okay, I do have a problem with

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dual citizenship period. I do not think it makes sense. Actually,

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And I have a sister in law who's got dual

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citizenship with the US in Canada, and I'm always like,

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I think I've mentioned this before. I'm always asking her, like,

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if we went to war, who would you fight for?

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And she goes ha ha ha ha ha, And I'm like,

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I'm not asking, like a joke, which one would you

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fight for? And that goes quad druple billion for US

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and China. And I don't even think China allows dual citizenship, right,

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does not recognize.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it has any rules, meaning, I think

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it's whatever the state decides, like there was no real

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there was no real I'm not an expert, but when

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I tried to figure out how she got her dual

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citizenship or whatever it's called there. I'm not even sure

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it's full citizenship. They just broke every rule like they

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hadn't did whatever they wanted. And she's not the only one.

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I think there's another athlete like this. I think dual

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citizenship makes sense for some people who work in two countries,

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who have family in two countries, who leave a country

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where they have children, Like, there are reasons people have them.

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It's not a big it's not like a hill I

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want to die on. I don't really care that much,

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but it's just I don't know. I wish you could

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be sanctioned in some way by the US, like I

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don't know. Otherwise, I'm enjoying the Olympics. I like watching

475
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,920
curling if you're a fan of that sport.

476
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Speaker 2: Like everything I do like curling.

477
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Speaker 1: Yeah, every four years I watch it. I'm like so

478
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into it, and then I forget that it exists for

479
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another four years until they come back.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I haven't watched any of the Olympics

481
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just because I've been so busy with everything with dad.

482
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But I normally sort of enjoy watching the Olympics. Yes,

483
00:27:55,039 --> 00:27:56,200
watch Carling is great.

484
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Speaker 1: Yeah, curling is great. Americans are quite good from what

485
00:27:59,599 --> 00:27:59,960
I've seen.

486
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,519
Speaker 2: I play for the United States of America. That's what

487
00:28:04,559 --> 00:28:08,519
I'm talking about. That's the proper response to any question. Also,

488
00:28:08,559 --> 00:28:10,319
you could go with I have no idea what you're

489
00:28:10,319 --> 00:28:12,319
talking about. This is the best country in the whole world.

490
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,720
We're celebrating our two hundred and fiftieth anniversary being better

491
00:28:15,759 --> 00:28:18,759
than everyone else in the world. You can do anything

492
00:28:18,839 --> 00:28:21,359
when you're an Olympic athlete, and I know, I know

493
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that when you're focused a lot on skiing or speed

494
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,400
skating or whatever, like maybe you're not reading a lot

495
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,400
of books, but you should be smart enough to know

496
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,079
how to handle a gotcha question from a reporter like

497
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,400
would you care to alienate two thirds of the country

498
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,480
that you're skiing for? You should be able to answer

499
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to that better.

500
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Speaker 1: Just not a place for politics, This is a place

501
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,200
for you know, like, yeah, I played for the USA.

502
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,559
I love my country. I don't know why it's so difficult.

503
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And if you don't, and that's perfectly acceptable in this

504
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,039
country to do, don't join, don't be on the Olympic team.

505
00:28:56,279 --> 00:28:58,359
Why are you there? Do whatever you want to do

506
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,119
I get that this is a finance opportunity for a

507
00:29:01,119 --> 00:29:03,519
lot of these people as well, because it makes them famous.

508
00:29:03,559 --> 00:29:07,480
But there are endorsement deals that come with that, and

509
00:29:07,519 --> 00:29:10,279
there aren't big crowds to watch skiing, so you need

510
00:29:10,279 --> 00:29:12,960
those endorsement deals. But you know what I mean, just

511
00:29:13,039 --> 00:29:16,240
shut up and wait to get home. My column this

512
00:29:16,359 --> 00:29:21,119
was called shut up and ski. Yeah, you just mentioned

513
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,680
Miracle on Ice, the movie where it's the greatest scene

514
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,519
in movie history where he keeps at her Brooks keeps

515
00:29:27,559 --> 00:29:30,119
asking them what they play for, like the University of Minnesota,

516
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:31,880
blah blah blah, till one guy's like I played for

517
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:36,400
the USA, and it's just the best moment. I'll mention

518
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,200
it again. I think I mentioned it last week on

519
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,039
Netflix has a Miracle on Ice documentary that I think

520
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,599
that I think, you know, very formative event in my life,

521
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,839
and this documentary I think was the best, and I'd

522
00:29:46,839 --> 00:29:48,559
watched them all. It has a lot of the guys

523
00:29:48,599 --> 00:29:50,359
came back to talk about it and they saw a

524
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,680
lot of footage of their family and stuff that they

525
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,680
hadn't ever seen. So it's like really emotional and great.

526
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Speaker 2: So when we wrote the book on Justice, Kavanaugh, Carrie

527
00:30:01,319 --> 00:30:04,839
Saverino and I we had a part in there about

528
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:10,880
how Justice Kavanaugh's hype game was to replay that part

529
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,720
of marklon Ice about playing for the United States of America.

530
00:30:14,799 --> 00:30:16,880
It's such a good movie. It's great.

531
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I make my family reluctantly sometimes watch that once

532
00:30:22,359 --> 00:30:22,680
a year.

533
00:30:23,559 --> 00:30:24,079
Speaker 2: So good.

534
00:30:24,759 --> 00:30:27,839
Speaker 1: Kurt Russell is so good in that. Did you watch

535
00:30:27,839 --> 00:30:29,160
any of the commercials.

536
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,519
Speaker 2: Or anything, Not a one, but I remember that after

537
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,359
the and it was like after Biden was elected, Jeep

538
00:30:36,519 --> 00:30:40,440
had an ad where they were like, Okay, every corporation

539
00:30:40,599 --> 00:30:44,920
has been crazy and has been financing to the tune

540
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,640
of one hundred billion dollars all of the left wing's

541
00:30:48,839 --> 00:30:51,880
most left wing causes, but we would like things to

542
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,720
calm down now that we got Biden elected. So they

543
00:30:54,759 --> 00:31:01,279
had no notorious unifier Bruce Springsteen. I rate a gpad

544
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,759
and all the media were like, this was so unifying

545
00:31:05,839 --> 00:31:08,359
and great, and it was to your point about a

546
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,359
litmus test. It was kind of like that. A lot

547
00:31:11,359 --> 00:31:13,400
of the rest of America was like, what is this,

548
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,079
Get this off my television, Get Bruce Springsteen out of here.

549
00:31:18,079 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: There's this weird perception of born in the USA. That

550
00:31:21,759 --> 00:31:25,079
album of being this patriotic album about the United States,

551
00:31:25,079 --> 00:31:28,480
but it's actually not that at all. It's it's this

552
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:33,039
is incredibly critical of the United States in very dishonest ways.

553
00:31:33,039 --> 00:31:34,880
And a lot of the lyrics in that album. I mean,

554
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,640
I just which is fine, that's your choice, but why

555
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,279
are we pretending Born in the USA is some patriotic song.

556
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,119
Speaker 2: I loved well in part because Ronald Reagan used it

557
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,720
in his campaigning, and then Bruce Springsteen was like, no,

558
00:31:48,799 --> 00:31:51,279
you don't understand. I'm trying to say I hate the USA,

559
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,880
and Reagan and the Republicans were like, we just love

560
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,160
the USA, so we'll just keep on singing Born in

561
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,559
the USA as if it's a good thing.

562
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Speaker 1: When I think of gone Ie, I assume that that

563
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,119
just was the event that got Ronald Reagan elected, basically,

564
00:32:04,319 --> 00:32:06,279
and that's how I think about it, you know. I

565
00:32:06,359 --> 00:32:08,759
think like everyone hated America and then that happened and

566
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,599
everyone loved America. And also I thought I watched it live,

567
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,680
which my parent my dad later told me was not

568
00:32:13,839 --> 00:32:16,680
the case. I had watched it later on tape.

569
00:32:17,319 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 4: Okay, how has consumer confidence fallen to the lowest level

570
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,279
in over a decade watched Out on Wall Street podcast

571
00:32:26,319 --> 00:32:29,279
with Chris Markowski. Every day Chris helps unpack the connection

572
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,119
between politics and the economy and how it affects your wallet.

573
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The media income is eighty four thousand dollars, but people

574
00:32:35,119 --> 00:32:37,319
feel like they need it one hundred and thirty thousand

575
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,759
just to feel like they're getting ahead. Until housing and

576
00:32:39,759 --> 00:32:42,279
insurance costs go down, will there be more of the same.

577
00:32:42,359 --> 00:32:44,400
Whether it's happening in DC or down on Wall Street,

578
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:45,640
it's affecting you financially.

579
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Speaker 1: Be informed.

580
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Speaker 4: Check out the watch Dot on Wall Street podcast with

581
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Chris Markowski on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.

582
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Speaker 1: So apparently, across the United States and cities, the crime

583
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:03,759
rate has plunged to like centuries low numbers, which to

584
00:33:03,839 --> 00:33:08,480
me is actually fascinating for a reason. We'll talk about

585
00:33:08,519 --> 00:33:11,680
it after, but this is how Axios decided to cover

586
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:18,839
that story. Crime plunges in major cities despite Trump's crackdown rhetoric,

587
00:33:20,279 --> 00:33:27,160
which makes zero sense because Trump said sent the National

588
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,680
Guard to a couple of cities because to help alleviate crime,

589
00:33:31,279 --> 00:33:33,839
not despite it's not the word that belongs there. But

590
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,200
also it's not just rhetoric, he actually did some stuff.

591
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,480
Now you could like it or not, but it's clear that,

592
00:33:39,559 --> 00:33:43,240
for instance, in DC, the National Guard just being around

593
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:48,599
helped lower crime rates, specifically murder. Am I wrong about this?

594
00:33:49,359 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 2: So James Toronto when he was running the Best what

595
00:33:54,359 --> 00:33:55,440
was it called? I Forget the Best?

596
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: So the way I think at the.

597
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Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal would love examsamples like this one, which

598
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,759
he called the Butterfield fallacy, named after a New York

599
00:34:05,799 --> 00:34:10,920
Times reporter Fox Butterfield. Or when a reporter encounters facts

600
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:15,760
that are contrary to his political narrative, and usually you

601
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,000
find it with the word despite, followed by a clause

602
00:34:19,039 --> 00:34:22,760
that actually explains the thing that is confusing to the reporter.

603
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,880
So I loved this example from Axios that despite Trump's

604
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,559
crack down on crime and talking about it, crime has

605
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,360
been cracked down on. It's like, huh, I'm not such

606
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,760
a mystery to everybody else in the United States, with

607
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:42,000
like twenty five different reasons, including the National Guard, including

608
00:34:42,079 --> 00:34:46,840
deportation of criminals, including greater scrutiny of illegal immigrants, like

609
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,840
all these things that contribute to a decrease in crime.

610
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,480
I'm not always always want to highlight that record keeping

611
00:34:55,559 --> 00:35:00,360
can be a disaster for crime statistics. But yes, yeah,

612
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:06,039
that's kind of a consistent thing over time. So God

613
00:35:06,039 --> 00:35:10,559
bless the new world that Axios is learning about today.

614
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Speaker 1: I am still find it surprising. I understand that I

615
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,360
think there's downward pressure from the federal government that kind

616
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of convinces localities and cities to do a better job

617
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,400
with crime. I think you're right about probably about the

618
00:35:25,519 --> 00:35:29,599
deportations and all that. But these numbers are massive, like

619
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,840
Orlando fifty eight percent drop, Tampa fifty to Denver forty

620
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:39,960
seven like this is these are huge drops in homicide

621
00:35:40,039 --> 00:35:43,679
rates for a city, and people had some theories. I

622
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,719
wonder what you think that there And this is a

623
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,199
theory I heard years ago when there was the initial

624
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,320
crime drop in the nineties, that there are just fewer

625
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:56,079
kids around and or young people, and that they are

626
00:35:56,159 --> 00:36:00,400
the leading criminals basically, especially young men obviously, and that

627
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,519
it's lower crime rates are great, But sometimes they also

628
00:36:03,599 --> 00:36:07,000
represent that there just aren't that many young people around anymore.

629
00:36:07,039 --> 00:36:08,800
Do you think that has I mean, I know we're

630
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not criminal.

631
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 2: I have no idea. So I was I was wondering

632
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:18,880
if what if kids are just not interacting with other

633
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:19,840
kids anymore.

634
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this study about dating

635
00:36:23,639 --> 00:36:27,280
and how young people basically don't date anymore, they just

636
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,800
this is this weird. They're not I'm sorry to say.

637
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,280
I mean, they're just it's weird to say this because

638
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,360
it feels like the opposite of what I should be saying.

639
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,480
But they're just not dating and having sexual interactions anymore.

640
00:36:38,599 --> 00:36:40,639
It's just not like growing up in the way that

641
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,519
I you know, people grew up in our day, but

642
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,880
when you met someone spontaneously things would happen. I think

643
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,440
it's unnatural, even though no, you should not have sexual

644
00:36:52,679 --> 00:36:56,440
relations before you're married, but it's unnatural that people don't

645
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,000
seem to have even interest in such things. Is that

646
00:36:59,039 --> 00:36:59,679
weird to say?

647
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Speaker 4: So?

648
00:37:00,559 --> 00:37:03,079
Speaker 2: I kind of feel this way when I encounter adults

649
00:37:03,079 --> 00:37:06,559
who are not getting married. I'm like, don't you just

650
00:37:07,519 --> 00:37:11,440
want to have sex more? You know, like, like, do

651
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,599
you ever meet those people who are like of a

652
00:37:13,639 --> 00:37:16,320
certain age, They even have a like a significant other,

653
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,599
but they're just not getting married. And I'm like, what

654
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,039
is going on? Because sex is a powerful motivator in

655
00:37:22,119 --> 00:37:25,559
a good way. It's why you get married, It's why

656
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,039
I don't know, I know, they're like they're having it

657
00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:31,280
anyway or whatever, but no, they're not, actually, But yeah,

658
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:31,920
that's I feel like that.

659
00:37:32,559 --> 00:37:35,199
Speaker 1: But there's this weird thing where some people are and

660
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,039
they're just in hookup culture. You know, they have apps,

661
00:37:38,039 --> 00:37:41,159
they just meet, they just hook up with people randomly,

662
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,719
which I think anyone in the world sooner or most

663
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,079
people in the world sooner or later probably realize is

664
00:37:47,079 --> 00:37:49,960
a very empty way to live your life. But it

665
00:37:50,039 --> 00:37:52,519
is just weird, and obviously it has a lot to

666
00:37:52,559 --> 00:37:56,960
do with technology and how we use it. Okay, Molly,

667
00:37:57,079 --> 00:38:01,400
let's do culture. Was there a lot of culture in

668
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:01,719
your life?

669
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Speaker 2: The last couple of weeks, there's been a ton of

670
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,519
culture in terms of time with family. I love my

671
00:38:07,559 --> 00:38:11,360
family so much, and my mom's side of the family

672
00:38:12,519 --> 00:38:18,519
held like two gatherings for in conjunction with my dad's funeral,

673
00:38:18,559 --> 00:38:24,079
which is just amazing. And then the Thursday before the funeral,

674
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,039
my sister had already made plans to go see Milania

675
00:38:28,199 --> 00:38:31,400
with a group of girlfriends, so I went along with

676
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:35,760
them and it and yeah, that's the only culture I've

677
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:40,800
seen the documentary Milania, so I had I will just

678
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:46,039
say I had extremely low expectations going into it, like

679
00:38:46,079 --> 00:38:48,119
I thought it was just like a seventy million dollar

680
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,519
money transferred to the Trump family from Netflix or something,

681
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,719
So I was I was pleasantly surprised, like it was

682
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:03,320
just the twenty day around the second inauguration, and what

683
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,039
her life is like. So it was interesting to see

684
00:39:06,519 --> 00:39:10,079
how focused she is on fashion and how knowledgeable she is.

685
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,239
Also you know, the design of the events, the people

686
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:18,400
who were working on that. Also funny to see her

687
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:25,039
interactions with her husband, and it was, Yeah, it was good.

688
00:39:25,199 --> 00:39:27,320
I liked it. And I saw some people I knew

689
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,239
in it, which was exciting, Like one of my friends

690
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,559
from church works at the Blairhouse and so she was

691
00:39:32,599 --> 00:39:35,239
like all over it, Like got very excited by seeing that.

692
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,280
But Milani is just a beautiful woman, and it's one

693
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:42,079
of the things that really annoyed me about the first

694
00:39:42,159 --> 00:39:46,880
Trump administration. I tend to be less critical of first

695
00:39:47,039 --> 00:39:50,920
ladies than a lot of people. I mean, I'll go

696
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,880
after Hillary Clinton like anybody else, but I mean, it's

697
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,480
not an enjoyable job. And so if you tell me that,

698
00:39:57,559 --> 00:40:01,719
you think what was George W. Bush is white? Laura?

699
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,639
If you tell me Laura Bush is beautiful, I'm like

700
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,480
yes she is. Oh, Michelle Obama has a great fashion sense,

701
00:40:07,599 --> 00:40:11,920
Yes she does. But when Malania Trump, who was objectively

702
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,920
a gorgeous woman with amazing fashion sense, came on the

703
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,239
scene and everybody was like, I don't see it. I

704
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,920
don't like her. She's ugly, her fashion is ugly. You're

705
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,960
just like, that's insane. Not a single cover of a

706
00:40:25,039 --> 00:40:30,960
magazine when you're forced to, like see again Laura Bush

707
00:40:31,039 --> 00:40:34,719
or Michelle Obama on the cover of everything, and like

708
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,360
doctor Jill Biden on the cover of every magazine, and

709
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,079
you're like supposed to believe that these people are beautiful.

710
00:40:41,079 --> 00:40:44,599
But then an actual supermodel becomes First Lady and the

711
00:40:44,639 --> 00:40:47,559
media are like, no, she's not very pretty. So I

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enjoyed just being able to see her and stuff too.

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Speaker 1: Well, not every first Lady is the same. Like Hillary

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acted like co president, basically involved. She was literally involved

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in policymaking, so I think she's fair game.

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Speaker 2: Is that what we're calling the string of murders? Just kidding?

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Speaker 1: She was involved in all kinds of nefarious actions, including

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the healthcare plan that she released. But Laura was just

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this nice woman. I mean, she didn't get involved in

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policies Michelle Obama, however, always had things to say about

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the United States. I think they were very off putting,

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and if you're going to get involved in that way,

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I think it's very fair for people to point that

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out as well. I don't think a lot of the

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abuse she got for her looks or whatever is fair game,

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but certainly, certainly stuff she said that does.

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Speaker 2: Remind me of something. I saw this video that was

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comparing two recent interviews. One was by JD. Vance talking

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about living with his family in the Naval Observatory and

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one was Michelle Obama talking about living with her family

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in the White House and JD. Vance he was being

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very he wasn't being like Pollyanna ish or anything, but

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he was just saying, yeah, you know it can be difficult,

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but it's amazing. Most of your meals are taken care of.

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You don't have to go through TSA with your children.

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The American people are so generous with the gift of

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this home and it's upkeep and love. And then Michelle

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Obama was like, it's awful, it's horrible. People don't know

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what we had to go through. You know, you have

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to buy your own meals and you know, everything is

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horrible about this, and I just want to say, if

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you can live a life of gratitude, it is so

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much better than to be angry all the time. And

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it makes me sad that Michelle Obama, who's had one

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of the most privileged lives of any human in history,

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would be so angry about it. And I compare it

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again with my father, who grew up extremely poor. His

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mom was sixteen when she got married, did not have

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a ton, worked very hard his whole life, and is

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so so grateful for everything that God gave him. And

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it just, I don't know. It is inspiring to me,

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but it also makes me sad when I see other

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people not being full of gratitude.

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Speaker 1: She just oozes resentment. I mean, she's resentful of the nations.

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She seems resentful of voters that put them in the

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White House. And for me, I don't understand that. Now,

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if that's not the life you want, and I get that,

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I never understand why anyone would ever want to be

759
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involved in politics. With politics, then don't be It's not

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our fault, right, It's not our fault that the light

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shining on you. It's something you did. I have some

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mild curiosity about this movie because I just like documentaries

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and I like, I'm really interested in seeing what goes

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on behind the scenes. Now, obviously it's not probably not

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going to show us like the uglier moments or stuff

766
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like that, I guess, but still, but I wouldn't go

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to a theater to see it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it wasn't. I have had the benefit of

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interviewing her, and she's pretty much a closed book, so

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you don't really get much in there. You get a

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lot about her love of her parents. I will say that.

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Speaker 1: I have never, out of all the first Ladies I've

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lived through, seen someone who seems less excited about being there, Like,

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she does not seem like someone she does not seem

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like she wants to be first Lady do all. And

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that I'm fine with that. I mean, she's just I

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never think about her or see her around, and that's

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fine by me.

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Speaker 2: I do think there's a difference between the first the

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first Trump term Milania and the second Trump term Milania.

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So first Trump term she was really closed off and

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she was very focused on Baron, who was still living

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with them at that time. I have found this second

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term interesting just to see how affectionate she and her

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husband are and oh there was this great part that

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they showed her editing his inauguration speech and he kind

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of doesn't want to change it, but then he does

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in the real speech, turns to her and like winks

789
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at her, and she smiles like this very slight smile,

790
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and it was just cute to see that that connection

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that they have.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, I don't have much. I been watching the

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Olympics a lot, and I did watch it. Did you

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ever see the movie Rumblefish? No? So Rumblefish is like

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after Francis Ford Coppola made The Outsiders, he retained the

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crew and some of the people in the movie. So

797
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in this movie you have matd Dylan, Mickey Rour, Diane Lane,

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Nicholas Caged and Hoppers in it as well Tom Waits.

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Isn't it but a lot of those people appear in

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The Outsiders. It's a very, very kind of experimental film.

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I'd say maybe I.

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Speaker 2: Did see it in college, but I can't quite remember.

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Speaker 1: I like the score. It's by Stuart Copeland, who was

804
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the drummer for the Police. It's kind of like a

805
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lot of red mixed stuff and it's just it's not great,

806
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but it's an oddity and just I think interesting people

807
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who were into that. And then, for some reason, I

808
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have no clue why. As I told you, I locked documentaries,

809
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I started watching that. Amazon had this Grateful Dead documentary

810
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called Long Strange Trip. I think, I don't even like

811
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that band, really, but I do. You know, I watched

812
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It's really well done. If you're into that band or

813
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you're a deadhead of culture I do not appreciate. When

814
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I was growing up, they would play near my house

815
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at Nasau Coliseum and the whole place would be taken

816
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over by these dirty hippies. So I did not like it,

817
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but it does give you a nice glimpse into the

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late sixties early seventies era and now how a lot

819
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of Americans lived, especially in the Bay Area. Thought it

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was interesting. I thought I.

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Speaker 2: Should Sapel Dead is one of those bands that I

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had to get past my general disdain of hippie culture

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to realize that they're a good band.

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Speaker 1: I am a fan.

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Speaker 2: I mean like, I'd hear him and I'd just kind

826
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of like turn off, and then I was like, oh, actually,

827
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this is really good music.

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Speaker 1: I was just talking to my wife about this, you know,

829
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her older siblings had Grateful Dead albums and then when

830
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they should put it on, and she thought it was

831
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going to be like this heavy music, but you know

832
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:31,440
it's the opposite of that.

833
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think that the esthetics they use, of course, are

835
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not indicative of what they do. I am a workingman's

836
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dead in American beauty. I think are two just fantastic albums,

837
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but I could never really get over dead head culture.

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841
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