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Speaker 2: No, it's I don't like sit down at ten o'clock

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and watch whatever primetime channels it happens to be on.

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But like, I don't think if you're watching the like

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X or Instagram or something like that, you I still

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follow the the mainstream media channels, you know. I still

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follow the BBC and follow Sky and follow CNN just

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to make sure I.

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Speaker 3: Get to date a yeah tailors.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like if I don't follow all the mainstream media,

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how would I know what to be scared of.

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Speaker 3: That's a good point. Maybe I should start following them.

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But then again, like my whole feed, well, I have

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like three different Instagrams and two different tiktoks. I have

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all these different accounts, but like, my whole rabbit hole

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feed is just conspiracies. It gets to the point where

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I'm like, I can't be on Instagram right now because

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I literally cannot see one more conspiracy before I want

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to gouge my eyes out of my head.

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Speaker 2: I see, apart from a Facebook, which I only have

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because some people want to send me messages a messenger,

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I've dumped all my social media, so the only interactions

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I have on social media is because I manage all

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the social media for the podcast. All I see is

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conspiracy theories.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that's my That's how my rabbit hole inst But

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my my like personal Instagram is happy. I see like

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people I know and their kids sometimes, or I see

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some happy story every now and then. My TikTok algorithm

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has not caught up with the fact that I'm a

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conspiracy theorist yet though.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 2: You see, see, the thing is I used to be

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like that. I used to live in that nice, fluffy

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world where I thought, oh, yeah, it's nice to know

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the friends, it's nice to know what everyone else is doing.

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And then slowly but surely, I thought, oh, I don't

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need to know this. I'm gonna I'll find it much

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easier to like people if I don't know everything about them.

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Speaker 3: Oh I'm a stalker. I want to know. And it's

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like people that I haven't interacted with for years, they

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probably don't even remember who I am. And I'm like,

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I wonder if they ever married that one guy. And

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then I go through and now they have like four kids,

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they're married to a different guy. It's like a whole thing.

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And I'm all caught up because I stalked the crap

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out of them. But I think that's the difference between

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a male and a female, because this is typical female behavior.

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We're like, let me know everything about your life.

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Speaker 2: Wait, we sure be sure?

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Speaker 3: Sure about that? I? Yes, I don't know. Somebody's gonna

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comment be like, yeah, this is what females do.

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Speaker 2: I would love it if nobody commented that. I was like, no, no,

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I keep myself to himself.

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Speaker 3: What okay? Firstly, you know you're on my podcast and

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these people actually like me on your podcast.

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Speaker 2: You don't you don't read your own comments. I read

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your comments. Sometimes you read my comments.

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Speaker 3: Don't do that. It's off. I'm already in a funk. Today,

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I was like, today would be a good day for

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me to read the comments.

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Speaker 2: It might be time to reply.

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Speaker 3: Not replying to them, I would just cry in a corner.

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Speaker 2: Most most comments are good, most most of them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but some of them? Lee? Are they good? Or

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are they bad?

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Speaker 2: The comments.

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Speaker 3: Good?

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Speaker 2: Good?

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Speaker 1: Great?

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Speaker 3: This is why I don't read them. Actually, I had

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another guest planned and I wasn't planning on having you

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guys on, but I have to hold that episode. So

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now all the people get to listen to you and

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I ramble for an hour.

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Speaker 2: That's good, right, Australia, Australia.

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Speaker 3: Wait, okay, you were saying, and I told you to

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stop talking because I needed to record this. You were

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saying that you think it is exactly what they're saying

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it is, which I think is bullshit.

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Speaker 2: M M. I think, well, see, Joe, the wild thing

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is is the the whole Muslim Islamic extremist thing. Like

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you guys in America, you guys had Islamic extremism down

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before it was cool. You knew exactly what was going

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Speaker 3: Before school, before it was in your country.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the now now now it's it's like it's it's

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a reasonable problem over here, and it's a reasonable problem

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in Europe, and you guys seem to like just it's

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it's it's shifted so much. And I think there is

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a break in your own comments, I'll probably get some

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stick for it, because I get stick on my own

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podcast for it. There's such a need for some reason

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on in the in the US right now to blame

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Israel absolutely everything. It's like, you know, the Islam is

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a radical far right ideology, like like extreme we we

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we joke about like far right and stuff like that,

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and Trump and conservatives get caught right, but we're talking

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like a real hard line like right wing ideology. Is

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it that fucking crazy to think those people got some

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guns and shot some people?

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Speaker 3: Isn't that crazy? No, Okay, that's not the crazy part.

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The crazy part is I did the Port Arthur massacre

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a couple a while ago. I have no idea how

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long ago I did that. Anyway, it was like a

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two parter and it was all about how they were

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trying to like stop guns or like put more restrictions

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on guns in Australia. So why can't this just be

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an extension of that.

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Speaker 2: They absolutely could do it wrong.

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Speaker 3: I just don't believe any terrorist attack is actually just

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a terrorist attack.

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Speaker 2: But that would that would suggest that you don't believe

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there's actual terrorist cells.

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Speaker 3: Then that's not true. I do believe there's actual actual

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terrorist cells.

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Speaker 2: So if so, well, they're not getting together to do

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coffee mornings.

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Speaker 3: But how many of these of these like terrorist attacks

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have we proven are not? So, like we're just gonna

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believe it because in Australia that it probably was just

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a terrorist attack.

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Speaker 2: I think there's I think it's probably a big there's

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a big machine behind this stuff. We know that, especially

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when it comes to gun control and stuff like this,

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Speaker 3: Because of the port Armscer. Yes, they could be tighter

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because they can still get guns.

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Speaker 2: They could be England.

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Speaker 3: They're definitely not America.

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Speaker 2: No, right, I think you're right. I think there are

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definitely mass shootings which are fabricated, like either either completely

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fabricated or arranged. However, I also think if you're going

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to do that, and you're gonna go down the si oproute,

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then you kind of got these things out. So if

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something does happen, there's like what fucking freebie guys, and

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then you so you let the so the shooting is

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a real event, and then you layer in what you

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Speaker 3: I can see that, like like the terrorists did it,

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and then the government's like, well we can't, Yeah, we

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can't waste a tragedy. We have to use this. Yeah

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that's a good point. I could see that. See, I

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Speaker 2: In on that. Yeah, that's what I think has gone

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on in Australia because I think that they see we

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we have quite a lot of Australian listeners on our show,

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and it feels like they've got like a terrible government.

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Like sometimes it feels like the Australia is even worse

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off than the UK is and that regard.

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Speaker 3: Aren't the governments like falling apart in Europe right now?

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Speaker 2: Europe? Yeah, the UK is, they're still trucking on. There's

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still like the lowest approval rating of any any sitting

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government of all time, I believe, But they're still they're

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still going. They're in there. They've just announced plans to

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that for children eleven upwards boys eleven upwards in school.

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It doesn't say it, but I'm fairly sure they, particularly

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me white boys, that they need they're going to need

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to have anti misogyny training. What because of toxic masculinity, Danny,

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Speaker 3: They are trying to make men weak, and weak men

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create hard times, and if they create hard times, then

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they can usher in their new world order. New world

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order has really been on my head lately, Like I've

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really been like harping on this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, like I'm that it's either that or

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I often think to myself, now it's it doesn't maybe

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it doesn't even have to go anywhere. Because I was

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listening to a load of stuff about the idea of

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your archons and fucking loose harvesting and all that sort

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of thing, and it suddenly dawned on me that all

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these things that kind of come in or supposed to

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come in, let's take vaccine passports for instant instance, never

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really like caught on. You know, they were kind of

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there for a little bit, kind of not there for

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Ah, it seems that all of these like syge ups

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that happen. They never really hit the the conclusion that

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they're supposed to. So is that are they not actually

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supposed to get to the destination. Are they just supposed

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to cause anxiety? Are they just supposed to cause misery,

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upset people, Maybe people fight with each other, get all

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that negative energy out into the world so they can

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get sucked up by whatever inter de men to lend

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these control Absolutely, why not controls?

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Speaker 3: Because it works? I mean, and it feels like every

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they're like, oh, let's throw something else in there. I

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have a I have a theory that if they can

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make men weaker, they're not going to fight back. Like

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you can implement whatever you want, you can do whatever

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you want, because like these people, like when I'm the

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American Revolution, you had all these people in America that

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were like, we don't agree with this taxation type situation,

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so we're going to fight for our freedom. Well, if

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you have a bunch of weak people, they would never

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fight you, So let's make them weaker. And I don't

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think it's just men. I think that they're just targeting

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Speaker 2: It's it's it's interesting. I don't. I used to think, like,

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especially around the COVID time, I thought I've got a

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pretty good read on what's going on here. I don't

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like it, but I've got a good read for it.

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I have no real idea now, I think any Like

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the someone said to me the other day, it's like,

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sometimes it's irritating being like a conspiracy theorist because it

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feels like most people that are into it I just

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arguing with each other about just how red pilled each

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other is, you know, like a competition.

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Speaker 3: More conspiratorial than you are.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Don't think.

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Speaker 2: I don't think anyone's really got like a handle on

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what's going on now.

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Speaker 3: I think everyone wants to like point it out, like

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there's something going on and everybody can agree on that,

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but what it actually is nobody can agree on, and

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then people want to fight about it. And to me,

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I'm like, no, Like, tell me your perspective so maybe

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it can change my perspective, like maybe I have it wrong.

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that helps me draw a conclusion. Maybe it's the same

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one as you one, maybe it's different. It doesn't matter,

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Speaker 2: I see. I think the the most interesting thing, like

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conspiracy wise, to come out of the Australia shooting was

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the AI photographs of the of the that like it's Israeli.

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there was a pit picture was that supposedly sat on

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the ground getting like makeup done. Yeah, and like people

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even though the fact that the like one of the

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pieces of evidence for why it was real was there's

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a it's an Australian water bottle that's on the table

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and it's not. It's clearly a different water bottle than

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the one that they're trying to use to like confirm

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it's real. All the text is fucked up on his

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T shirt which is clearly like a like an AI

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sign and it's it's it's and also he's got genes

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on where he had shorts at the shooting. You know,

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it's it's clearly an AI AI image. But it's the

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first time I can think of where an important event

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or at least like yeah, yeah, obviously it's an important event.

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of it, and those AI images are coloring the conversation,

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like the that's.

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Speaker 3: True, I think that happened in Charlie Kirk too.

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Speaker 2: Or maybe what AI we're looking at for Charlie Kirk.

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picking out AI images as I feel like other people are.

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and a lot of people said it was like holograms,

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that he wasn't actually killed, it was like holographic images

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and all this. But I think a lot of the

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of like part of a more broader conspiracy, whereas the

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and if that's if that that's something that's in because

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like this, this is the thing with the Charlie Kirk thing,

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was on that sweat And so it's it's okay to

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think Erica Kirk's weird as fuck and Candice Sown's just crazy,

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you know, I think you can exist in that place too.

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gone out of their way to create an AI image

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of that that guy to blur this like the reality

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of that situation. And I can't remember that happening. And

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that's just going to get worse. And I was saying

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the other day on the show, what does that do

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if you look at the damage social media or I

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think social media's done. I think that's the rise in

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like trans ideology, the I'd say the culture was in

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general were like that were bred on social media. That's

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the damage that that's done to this point, what damage

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is done to like the human psyche over the course

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of the next five years. When we get into the

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situation where we watch anything, it doesn't matter whether people

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are watching your podcast, whether people are watching the news,

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whether people are watching sports results, and they're never quite

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sure if what they've seen is real.

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Speaker 3: And that's already a real concern, and it's just gonna

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get worse.

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Speaker 2: It's terrifying, way worse.

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Speaker 3: Well, and then I my husband's very much like he's

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worried about this AI thing, and he brings it up

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all the time. We're constantly talking about AI, and just

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like the fact that they will replicate your child's voice

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or your child's image or whatever to try to scam

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you is terrifying. Like they so many different ways that

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they're trying to exploit everything that you put on the Internet.

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How long until they exploit us? I mean, we put

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our voice, our likeness, that's all over the internet. We've

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had this conversation.

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Speaker 2: I'm still convinced that the that the advert I heard

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on TikTok used your voice.

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I don't think I.

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the to take my son the other day, he saw

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like he heard your voice because you sent me a

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voice message and he'd heard me on the phone to

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you on lad speaking, So I know that voice because

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it was it was it was one of your tiktoks

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that had come across. Yeah, And he's like, Yeah, which's AI,

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isn't she Like? So even a little boy that he's

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is getting confused at what's fucking real person and what's not.

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up in this world, because like they're gonna live with

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it forever, Like we we were so blessed that we

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did not have social media and we were young, young, young,

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and then now like this next generation coming up they

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have all the social media have They're like they haven't

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they don't know a world without a cell phone, right,

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and then we have the next generation after them, which

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is our kids that they won't know world without AI.

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Speaker 2: Nope, it's it's crazy and it's the I mean, I go, like,

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you're younger than me, so were do do you remember

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pre internet kind of Oh? Was it kind of internet

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when you like when you remember got to school and stuff?

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Speaker 3: Uh, I think I found it. Hold on, let me

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see if I can make it sound.

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Speaker 2: It was like my my school life was pretty much

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pre internet, Like my my primary school didn't have a

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computer in it. For instance.

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Speaker 3: See we did have computers, but we were like barely

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learning how to type on them. And we were learning

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I guess we were learning like basic like research because

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then once I got to high school, like we were

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doing most of our research on the internet. So yeah,

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we we had it mostly growing up because I remember,

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like I went to a really poor elementary school or

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one of them. I went to a lot of schools,

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but one of them that I went to was really

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poor and we had school canceled one day because a

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couple of people broke into our school with a butter

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knife to steal the computers out of the computer lab.

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Speaker 2: They're like the old school.

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Speaker 3: Max, like the fat ones, like colored.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you see, that was really funny when I went

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to school, because did you know that why all the

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computers Apple had Apple computers in them, because like over

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here or schools have Apple or had Apple computers. I

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don't know, it's the same thing. I think it still is, and.

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Speaker 3: Yeah we did, but we don't anymore. Like now it's

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it's all changed to like chrome books like kids get.

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in a lot of schools, especially in Colorado, like they

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get given a chrome book from like when they get

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there in like kindergarten, and it goes through the like

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primary school with them, elementary school all the way until

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they're done. Then they go to middle school and they

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get a new Chromebook and then it stays with them

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until they're out of that school. Then they go to

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high school. Same thing.

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Speaker 2: So it was like back in the nineties, I think

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it was like the Apple Too or something of that.

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Maybe there'll be an Apple fanboy out that which absolutely

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fixed me here. But Apple gave computers to schools. I'm

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not just like a couple of schools. It's like all

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of them. He's the school, he's the computers. England. Yeah,

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like the And that's that's why, because I did. I

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remember when I went to secondary school was when we

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first started having like proper computers in like the in

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the sort of computer labble where we called it. And

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I remember all the way through my school life like

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doing stuff on Apple Max. And then you go out

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into the real world and you're like, what's Windows? Because

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that seems to be fucking everywhere and I've never seen it.

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I don't know, but I think I mostly grew up

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on Windows because by the time I got to high school,

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it was all Windows computers. It was only in elementary school,

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which actually that's a good point because again it was

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a really poor school, Like how did they how did

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they afford a whole computer lab full of apples?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like getting in the door, getting people used to

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get people used to technology and it's I the more

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I think about education and the education I had and

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the education I can see is it's just it's yeah,

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this is why I'm homespoiling.

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Speaker 3: People think I'm crazy.

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Speaker 2: I'd had the conversation this, well, did you like what

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I find weird? I'd like I apologize to your listeners

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as well, because I think this is this is a

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bit of a jumping around episode. But the this morning,

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my my son was told it was it was it

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was this morning yesterday and something popped up on YouTube

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when we were having breakfast about the scans underneath the pyramids. Yeah,

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you know the things I'm fascinated by that. I've been

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I've been watching loads of stuff on it. Apparently the

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Museum of Antiquities are terrified to let anybody go in

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and have a look at that because they're scared that

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anything that could be found could point to the fact

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that the Egyptians didn't build pyramids.

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Speaker 3: No ship have we been saying that for years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so they just like, no, nothing to see here,

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definitely not like two hundred kilometers like things built underneath them.

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And I was talking to some my son had just

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done here, like a whole thing about Egyptology. He's a

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primary school and I remember doing it as well. I

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can remember the textbooks, and I think, why why is

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that like a staple of like right, like why are

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they question primary education? Primary education is you've got to

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leave school knowing what the pyramids are and where they

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came from. And he obviously yeah, he said, oh yeah,

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well the slaves built the pyramids, Like no, no, no, don't.

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Nobody could have been aliens, could have.

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Speaker 3: Been aliens, could have been a number of different things.

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Speaker 2: I genuinely believe it is that if you were to

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sit down and you were like a smart person and

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not smooth brain person like me, I think you could

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make a good argument that it is statistically more likely

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that it's aliens than slaves. The idea of slaves build

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in the pyramids is ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: Well, the fact that we can't replicate them today, like

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we could not build them as clear as precise as

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they have are bills. We could not do that today.

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And so you're gonna tell me that slaves that had

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no technology, no machinery, no nothing, built these things to

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be perfect.

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Speaker 2: Do you know the other cool one like that that's

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been that rattles around my brain all the time about

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stuff that we have no idea how it happened, how

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big it is is Obviously we know about the catacombs

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in France. Yeah, the you know how you see the

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bones all stacked with each other. Yeah, I was. I

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was watching a big thing about them. It suddenly dawned

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on me like they were taking bones down there to

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do that, to display So what what the reason for

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that is? God only knows. And then I found out

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there's I can't remember how many millions of people of

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that the estimate is the bones of what of the

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catacombs that are discovered down there. Yeah, it's like ten

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x the population of fucking Paris at the time. There's

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not even there's not even an explanation of two how

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they had the people to get the bones.

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Speaker 3: Was it like a war or something like? Could there

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have been?

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Speaker 2: No, it's fucking insane.

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Speaker 3: Like the population was huge before it was all wiped

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out and then they started over.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because that's the only thing that makes sense. There

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have been multiple civilizations that have lived on this world

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before us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because it would also make sense why they if

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something truly like tragic happened, Because that's the other world.

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One about the catacombs is they're not the biggest catacombs.

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The biggest catacoms are in Ukraine.

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Speaker 3: What the heck?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And we found out that a few months ago.

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There's so much we don't know and will never know.

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Speaker 3: Well, because then I think about like all the tunnels

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that are all under the US and that go all

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under like the whole country. It's not just like one

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place that has tunnels. Everywhere has tunnels. I don't know.

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I have more questions about the world. I wish we

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I wish, I wish we didn't have to feel like

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everything was covered up all the time.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm. So why then, right, even obviously, I've been

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into this type of thing really in earnest ever since

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the Internet became easily available to me. I remember buy

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my first laptop and first getting the internet there, and

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I'm pretty sure the first thing I googled with Google

480
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:30,680
was like UFOs. I'm almost convinced of it. Yeah, And

481
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:40,079
but back then it was like UFOs, awesome, big Foot, Yeah,

482
00:27:40,559 --> 00:27:45,200
maybe a bit of Lockerness Monster, definitely, definitely some fake

483
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,400
fake Moonland and stuff, and there was it was just

484
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,680
it was cool, little pockets, little pockets of stuff you

485
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,400
could look at. Yeah, but it feels like like like

486
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,839
you say, like we think everything's alive now. But the

487
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,160
reason we think everything's life because it's like every other

488
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,160
week there seems to be something else that like explodes

489
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,920
out of nowhere, you know, be it like I mean,

490
00:28:10,279 --> 00:28:13,200
I don't particularly believe in the flat earth, but like

491
00:28:13,279 --> 00:28:17,519
when that really started to take off and it was

492
00:28:17,599 --> 00:28:21,240
just everywhere, and then the mud flood think came out

493
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,559
of nowhere, and then that really took off, and that

494
00:28:23,559 --> 00:28:27,519
that took on a life of its own. Again, this

495
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,640
could just be products of social media, or there's a

496
00:28:31,839 --> 00:28:38,839
reason why we are thinking this way. I'm finding more

497
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:44,119
stuff out now as opposed to like where no one

498
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:50,319
talked about the idea of buildings having extra layers underneath

499
00:28:50,359 --> 00:28:53,160
them like twenty years ago, thirty years.

500
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,039
Speaker 3: Ago, So why would there what would be the reason

501
00:28:56,079 --> 00:28:58,920
that we are thinking about it now versus I feel

502
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,880
like social media is a really good excuse. But like

503
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:08,160
what just the mass woke up maybe because well, and

504
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,000
you have to think back years like the government was

505
00:29:12,079 --> 00:29:15,119
the only source of information, like what they told us,

506
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:20,039
we just believed it wasn't until people started seeing the

507
00:29:20,039 --> 00:29:30,599
the what's the word I'm looking for, like the deceit

508
00:29:31,519 --> 00:29:34,839
in like real life, like with JFK. With I mean

509
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,400
the moon landing, people believe that right right off the bat. Yeah,

510
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,519
people really didn't really start questioning all these things. But

511
00:29:40,519 --> 00:29:42,359
then you have like the Gulf of Tonkin incident, you know,

512
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,079
all these different things that kind of line up and

513
00:29:44,119 --> 00:29:48,160
then it comes out. And why people become conspiracy theorists

514
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,640
further and further away from the events is because it

515
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,799
comes out later like Nope, that was.

516
00:29:54,759 --> 00:29:59,119
Speaker 2: All fake, yeah, not now, not now like this, Like

517
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,519
we just brought the chalk Kerk assassination up and that

518
00:30:02,599 --> 00:30:08,599
went from an assassination to JFK levels of conspiracy in

519
00:30:08,759 --> 00:30:09,720
forty eight hours.

520
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 3: Less than that, I would say. I would say literally

521
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:17,839
like in the hours hours, I was seeing things and

522
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,799
I stayed off social media because I was like, I

523
00:30:19,839 --> 00:30:22,240
think that I'm gonna give it time to be an

524
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,599
assassination in my brain before I dive into the conspiracies,

525
00:30:26,559 --> 00:30:28,640
just because I like to live in a fantasy world

526
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:29,759
a little bit sometimes.

527
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 2: But unfortunately didn't have that logic. We literally like he

528
00:30:35,839 --> 00:30:38,920
was shot and we would record in an episode like

529
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,640
five minutes after it. But I probably didn't age. Well.

530
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys were really thrown into that one. I

531
00:30:46,839 --> 00:30:49,400
remember thinking about it. You're like, yeah, we had to

532
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,920
cover it, like we were recording an episode, and I

533
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,480
was like, I'm not ready to cover it yet, and

534
00:30:54,519 --> 00:30:56,960
even then, like I covered it, but I need to

535
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,279
do an update episode on it because there's so much

536
00:30:59,279 --> 00:30:59,920
more that's come out.

537
00:31:00,079 --> 00:31:02,279
Speaker 2: And then, what do you stand on it?

538
00:31:04,119 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 3: Mmm? I think he's dead. Yeah, I think she was involved, Erica, Yeah,

539
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,640
I don't know if I believe that she was involved

540
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,039
to the extent that everybody believes that she was involved.

541
00:31:16,799 --> 00:31:20,599
I I don't know if she knew that like when

542
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,279
he was going to be assassinated. I don't think that

543
00:31:22,319 --> 00:31:24,079
she was involved in the planning. I think that she

544
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,559
had prior knowledge of it, Like I stand by, like

545
00:31:28,599 --> 00:31:30,319
I think that she was his handler the whole time.

546
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 2: I'm I'm not against that idea.

547
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 3: And then like she knew eventually he's gonna have to go,

548
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,359
which is why that she was told to be his

549
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,480
handler to begin with, and then like she just didn't

550
00:31:46,759 --> 00:31:51,240
necessarily know exactly what would be. I don't know, there's

551
00:31:51,279 --> 00:31:52,119
so much about it.

552
00:31:53,599 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 2: I have no idea I get I stand by the

553
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:04,440
to me, the only people that have really benefited from

554
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,119
it is turn It people with certain people in Turning Point,

555
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,359
because it's creat created a huge power vacuum that somebody

556
00:32:11,359 --> 00:32:11,799
had to feel.

557
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 4: Yep.

558
00:32:12,759 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 2: And indirectly Candis Owns, Yeah, because she has made bank

559
00:32:19,119 --> 00:32:21,119
off that.

560
00:32:21,119 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 3: That's true. So I go back and forth with Candice

561
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,799
Owns because I don't really watch her stuff. But then also,

562
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,640
like the shot in the Dark series makes a lot

563
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:34,680
of sense. You're like, vaccines are fucking people up left

564
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:39,880
and right. They're completely unnecessary. But then like this whole

565
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,440
Charlie Kirk thing, and I get it like it was

566
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:42,880
her friend. She wants to get to the bottom of it,

567
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,720
and then all of a sudden, like with her meeting

568
00:32:44,759 --> 00:32:45,599
with Erica, I.

569
00:32:45,599 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 2: Don't think it was to begin with, I didn't know.

570
00:32:50,039 --> 00:32:51,960
I think they were friends. I don't think they were friends.

571
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,759
I don't I thought there was a lot of contact

572
00:32:53,799 --> 00:32:55,279
with them.

573
00:32:55,359 --> 00:32:57,119
Speaker 3: I think they were friends when they were younger, and

574
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:01,960
they weren't huge yet. That's true. That's a good point,

575
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:06,880
because I don't know, how do you know, Like you

576
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,160
don't know who's like somebody's really good friend or not. No,

577
00:33:10,359 --> 00:33:12,160
because on the surface like you and I look like

578
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,079
best friends because we hang out all the time publicly publicly,

579
00:33:15,279 --> 00:33:18,119
like you know, we do lives, We are on podcasts together,

580
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,319
we like we spend time together. We if you went

581
00:33:20,359 --> 00:33:24,359
through our chats, like we are really good friends. But

582
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:25,720
also I have other friends.

583
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I don't know those friends. Yeah that's fair.

584
00:33:29,799 --> 00:33:33,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, like and they have social media's, but

585
00:33:33,799 --> 00:33:35,759
they aren't outward like they would never come on the

586
00:33:35,799 --> 00:33:37,839
podcast that like that's just not their thing. So like

587
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,559
you wouldn't really know those people. And maybe like and

588
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,160
I just Devil's advocate here. Candice and Charlie were really

589
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,279
good friends and they were like really like raising through

590
00:33:48,319 --> 00:33:50,440
the rinks and then they kind of separated a little

591
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,759
bit because they were both doing kind of like the

592
00:33:52,839 --> 00:33:54,720
same thing but different things and kind of go in

593
00:33:54,759 --> 00:34:01,359
different directions and then like still spending time privately together.

594
00:34:01,599 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 2: Like I implore anybody to watch the interview Candie Owans did

595
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:17,599
with Joe Rogan about five years ago, because because I

596
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,039
genuinely think she's a psychopath. I don't think I don't

597
00:34:21,039 --> 00:34:24,440
think she's got any human emotion whatsoever. I think everything

598
00:34:24,519 --> 00:34:30,440
she does is cander OANs like centric and that's so

599
00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:34,400
if it doesn't matter, like the even to the point

600
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:40,360
that maybe she can convince herself of things. And that's

601
00:34:40,559 --> 00:34:43,360
just the way she works. It's the way like she

602
00:34:43,519 --> 00:34:47,760
she she sees an opportunity, be it subconsciously or consciously,

603
00:34:48,559 --> 00:34:50,159
and she goes with it. So you're right with the

604
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:55,079
vaccine thing, like good good stuff, right, Do I do

605
00:34:55,119 --> 00:34:58,079
I think there was any genuine empathy behind that for people?

606
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:07,079
Well no, but sometimes sometimes people can help you even

607
00:35:07,079 --> 00:35:11,760
if they don't care about you. Yeah, so yeah, so

608
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,079
that's I think that. I think that's what it is.

609
00:35:14,119 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 3: But the the also, psychopaths are really good at like

610
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,840
putting off the perception that they can that they care.

611
00:35:22,639 --> 00:35:24,960
Then they have empathy, right, like it's fake empathy.

612
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:30,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're good. And I think like she's I think

613
00:35:30,679 --> 00:35:35,159
she saw a opportunity with the Charlie Kirk thing, and

614
00:35:35,199 --> 00:35:43,360
I think she saw the rise in the negative even

615
00:35:43,519 --> 00:35:49,400
more negative opinion of Israel because of the Israel Palestine situation,

616
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,119
and she thought, mm hmm.

617
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,639
Speaker 3: That's where I get weird about the whole thing. The

618
00:35:56,679 --> 00:35:59,000
whole thing, And it goes back to your point about

619
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,920
the terrorism, like terrorists and all this, like it all

620
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:08,079
went to Israel way too fast for it to be comfortable.

621
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,719
Does that makes sense? Like like so much so that

622
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,880
everyone like the mainstream narrative is that Israel's behind it,

623
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,559
and Candice Owns is pushing that, and like all these

624
00:36:16,559 --> 00:36:18,559
people are pushing this narrative and you're like, wait a second,

625
00:36:19,199 --> 00:36:22,639
Like why is this the comfort food that we're ingesting

626
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:23,119
right now?

627
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,639
Speaker 2: I find it? See the.

628
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 3: Drinking tea.

629
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 2: British.

630
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 3: I was gonna that's all.

631
00:36:42,639 --> 00:36:46,679
Speaker 2: Even out of teapot, I.

632
00:36:46,639 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 3: Would call you gabing, you're just British.

633
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 2: But I think maybe it's because it's right that the

634
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:02,239
the anti Israel anti youth has definitely grown in the

635
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:06,599
UK at the moment I was. I did an interview

636
00:37:06,679 --> 00:37:08,480
with the other day which, for oddly the article is

637
00:37:08,519 --> 00:37:12,639
still not still not come out with a Jewish author.

638
00:37:12,679 --> 00:37:17,159
That was to look into the rise of like anti

639
00:37:17,159 --> 00:37:21,119
Semitism within conspiracy theory and why why it seems like

640
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:27,119
to be such a go to. Yeah, if you are comments, Danny,

641
00:37:27,159 --> 00:37:27,800
this is the one.

642
00:37:30,559 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 3: Just comments.

643
00:37:32,679 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 2: The I think the thing is is that that's not

644
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,920
quite as prevalent in the UK as it is in

645
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:47,760
the US. And although there is a big like there's

646
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:52,480
a big vocal pro Palestine lobby in the UK as well,

647
00:37:52,559 --> 00:37:58,280
like this, this seems to be everywhere, but it's like

648
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,519
we have in the Okay, this is where I think

649
00:38:01,559 --> 00:38:04,440
it's ridiculous. So if we get if we're going to

650
00:38:04,519 --> 00:38:09,000
go for like tropes, right, like Jewish tropes, Like one

651
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:15,280
of the biggest stereotypes is like the want for money,

652
00:38:15,519 --> 00:38:19,199
you know, like they want to gain gain money. London,

653
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:28,760
so sorry, there's a vocal group that are concerned or

654
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,760
supposedly concerned with the rise of illegal immigration into the

655
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,400
country and like people coming into the country from France

656
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,239
and small boats. And you'll get people turn around and

657
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,599
saying the Jews are paying for it, the Jews are

658
00:38:41,599 --> 00:38:44,960
paying for the Muslims to be shipped in to destroy

659
00:38:45,039 --> 00:38:50,119
the UK. It doesn't because the demographic I think London

660
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,800
might even be minority white British now in like in

661
00:38:54,639 --> 00:38:58,800
the London, London capital. So they and this is where

662
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,760
the whole like it's the juice thing falls down for

663
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,079
me in a pretty local like quite local to me,

664
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,760
is that if you've got the one of the financial

665
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:14,119
capitals of the world in London and supposedly Jews are

666
00:39:14,119 --> 00:39:15,679
all in it for the money and all in it

667
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,239
for the banking. Yet they're willing to flood one of

668
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:24,800
the financial capitals of the world with a group of

669
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,000
people that hate them.

670
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 3: But also, if you're gonna blame those stereotypes, Jews wouldn't

671
00:39:32,519 --> 00:39:35,280
spend their money on something like that, Like okay, right,

672
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,280
Like every stereotype, there's a little bit of truth in

673
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,079
every stereotype, which is why it becomes a stereotype. But

674
00:39:40,159 --> 00:39:46,480
Jews are notoriously frugal, right, so they're not going to

675
00:39:47,159 --> 00:39:51,800
waste their money shipping Muslims into the financial capital of

676
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,000
the world. I would say, m or one of them.

677
00:39:55,199 --> 00:39:56,840
That's yeah, I agree.

678
00:39:56,639 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 2: With Yeah, it's just it's just something that I think

679
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,320
it goes missed sometimes.

680
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 3: But I think it's a it's a scapegoat type thing

681
00:40:05,559 --> 00:40:11,719
for people that don't actually dive into every conspiracy. Yeah,

682
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,360
like not to say that the Jews aren't involved with

683
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:21,320
all kinds of shady things. They absolutely are, but but

684
00:40:21,519 --> 00:40:25,719
everyone is that It's not just like and yeah, you

685
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,800
can make connections, but I've made connections to I mean

686
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,000
a bunch of people being Catholic. Candice Owans, she's Catholic,

687
00:40:32,079 --> 00:40:34,199
so like does that mean every Catholic is bad. No,

688
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,719
absolutely not every Jew is bad, no way, absolutely not.

689
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,519
Just because you make a connection doesn't necessarily mean it's correct.

690
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,599
We're fucking conspiracy theorists, Joe.

691
00:40:45,639 --> 00:40:48,599
Speaker 2: I prefer that. I like, I like the good old

692
00:40:48,679 --> 00:40:53,840
days five years ago, maybe six years ago, where everybody, yeah,

693
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:58,320
when everybody understood that in amongst every religion, there is

694
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,840
a subset of those people that presents as a religion

695
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,400
and as secretly Satanists. I liked.

696
00:41:07,039 --> 00:41:10,639
Speaker 3: I miss the days when people could like separate people

697
00:41:10,639 --> 00:41:14,880
as like individuals versus clumping everybody together all the time,

698
00:41:15,199 --> 00:41:17,480
like every Jew in the world is bad, every Catholic,

699
00:41:17,519 --> 00:41:24,960
every white female. Yeah, right, Like, Okay, firstly, that's not

700
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,639
true at all. If you've met anybody at an individual level,

701
00:41:28,679 --> 00:41:30,320
you either like them or you don't like them, and

702
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:31,920
you have a reason why.

703
00:41:32,039 --> 00:41:33,039
Speaker 2: Most people are cool.

704
00:41:33,679 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 3: Most people are But this, I think this is the

705
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,280
division thing that they're trying to do, because they are

706
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:43,559
pushing this division thing huge right now. They're like the

707
00:41:44,039 --> 00:41:48,000
racist thing got really really big during COVID because of

708
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,280
the George Floyd thing, And I mean there's just a

709
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,880
bunch of different things and they're like, you are inherently racist.

710
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,159
Every white person is inherently racist. I'm like, how is

711
00:41:57,199 --> 00:42:01,079
that even? Like what, how is that even a thing?

712
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:06,039
Speaker 2: Did you see the the CNN article that Sam Tripley

713
00:42:06,119 --> 00:42:08,639
shared earlier today on Instagram.

714
00:42:09,079 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 3: I can't follow that guy anymore. I know I was

715
00:42:11,559 --> 00:42:15,599
on the show, but I've got I've got some questions.

716
00:42:15,639 --> 00:42:17,719
Like I saw a post and I was like, what

717
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:22,960
the fuck? What did I just watched? Now I see

718
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,880
histf I'm still following him, but there are some things.

719
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,079
I'm like, I can't watch everything he puts up.

720
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:33,679
Speaker 2: This This CNN article was reparations could have saved millions

721
00:42:33,679 --> 00:42:41,519
of deaths during COVID nineteen. It's like they cracked the case, daddy.

722
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:47,800
If they'd have just given like a few one hundred

723
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:52,119
million dollars to various black communities, we could have solved COVID.

724
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:56,559
Speaker 3: Like that, it's just stupid. It's dumb.

725
00:42:57,159 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 2: It is dumb. It's the terrify And think about that.

726
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,360
I mean, I read that. Some people should read that

727
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,800
and go, well, that's stupid. I read that and go,

728
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:12,039
that's hilarious. Some people read that and go, ah, interesting.

729
00:43:11,679 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 3: Right, Okay, maybe maybe that's that's what we should have done,

730
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:19,079
like that would have fixed it. I I like to

731
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,079
like you or not like you on a personal level.

732
00:43:23,159 --> 00:43:25,119
I don't really care who you are. I don't care.

733
00:43:26,079 --> 00:43:31,480
I just I think I that's gonna sound so backwards

734
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,960
for me. I like most people just right off the bat,

735
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,760
like I go in liking people. I don't go in

736
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,800
like like I'm not cynical about anything. I don't go

737
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,639
in like, oh I'm gonna hate this person. I go

738
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,199
in like, oh, I'm gonna really get along with whoever

739
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:50,199
it is that I'm meeting or whatever. Right, and then

740
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:51,960
you have to prove me wrong.

741
00:43:54,119 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 2: I'm really weird, you know, No what kind of I've

742
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,159
always thought, you know, people are turn around saying I'm

743
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:15,920
an EmPATH. I've always thought, no, you're a prick. But

744
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:20,119
but I did. I now say, like, if you can

745
00:44:20,159 --> 00:44:22,559
get me close enough to somebody to smell them, I

746
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,519
can tell you it's a good person or not. And

747
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:30,159
I really struggle, I really struggle moving a smelling people.

748
00:44:30,679 --> 00:44:33,280
I just mean it's in like a distance thing, not necessary.

749
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:38,639
Speaker 3: Okay, you're not like actively smelling. Okay, Well, so firstly,

750
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,320
we have never been close enough to smell each other no,

751
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,280
but the no, you can't like me.

752
00:44:45,519 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 2: So but you left that window open once.

753
00:44:50,039 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, typically in the summertime, you always have to make

754
00:44:55,519 --> 00:44:59,400
some weird joke. We can't get out of a conversation

755
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:00,960
that you're making some weird joke.

756
00:45:02,199 --> 00:45:10,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, jokes, it's definitely jokes. Yeah, I know, I

757
00:45:10,559 --> 00:45:12,440
really struggle with it. Like if if I meet someone

758
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:16,760
and god, I'm not sure about you, I I rarely

759
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:17,639
changed my mind.

760
00:45:18,559 --> 00:45:21,039
Speaker 3: I have a really hard time trusting my gut. Like

761
00:45:21,079 --> 00:45:23,079
there there will be people where I'm like, I don't

762
00:45:23,159 --> 00:45:25,079
like that person, but I don't have a reason not

763
00:45:25,159 --> 00:45:27,960
to like them, and so then I'm like.

764
00:45:28,079 --> 00:45:30,559
Speaker 2: Choking dogs and stuff.

765
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,159
Speaker 3: Like they fine, they seem fine right, Like there's something

766
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,880
about them, like everything seems good on the outside. But

767
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,199
and everybody says, we'll trust your gut, and I'm like, well,

768
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,920
if everybody else around me seems to like this person,

769
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:48,559
why do I get this weird feeling? So that like

770
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,519
that's where I have a really hard time, Like I'll

771
00:45:52,559 --> 00:45:54,920
still be around them because I'm like, they haven't done

772
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:59,199
anything that's bad necessarily, but I just don't get a

773
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:03,480
good feeling from this person. And I could I can

774
00:46:03,559 --> 00:46:05,239
normally tell pretty quick.

775
00:46:07,159 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 2: I can tell seconds seconds.

776
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 3: Like there was we had a friend group and we're

777
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,440
not we kind of all like went our separate ways now.

778
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:20,800
But there was this guy rightfully named Jake the Snake,

779
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,199
and I don't know, like they didn't call him that,

780
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,320
but I called him that. And I was like, I

781
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,960
don't like this guy. And my husband's like why, Like

782
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,320
he's fine, he's fun, we all hang out together, he's

783
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,719
always a good time. Like that wasn't actually I just

784
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,480
called him that. So but and I only call him

785
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:44,039
that in private to Taylor to like identify this person.

786
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,559
I was like, oh, yeah, Jake the Snake. And he's

787
00:46:46,599 --> 00:46:49,480
like he's fine, he's like a fine guy. Like I

788
00:46:49,519 --> 00:46:51,280
don't know, I just don't like him. Well, then Taylor

789
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,239
did one job with him because he kind of like

790
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:58,280
jumps around like he does odd jobs. Let's just say.

791
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,440
And so he did this job with this guy and

792
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:05,960
he was like no, he got like really angry, like

793
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,159
like flew off the seat of his pants, like really

794
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:14,719
really really mad at the customer and then like left

795
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:18,079
the job site, like screamed at the customer, left the

796
00:47:18,159 --> 00:47:21,000
job site, and I was like I knew something was

797
00:47:21,039 --> 00:47:22,599
weird with that guy. Next time we saw him, he

798
00:47:22,599 --> 00:47:25,320
was totally fine again, like everything's good and nothing like

799
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,840
that ever happened again. But I was like, no, something,

800
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:28,840
something's weird with that guy.

801
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's how I feel. Like kind of sounds.

802
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 3: Do you think she's a robot? It's just so there's

803
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,440
some robotic tendencies about her.

804
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 2: Well, I mean that's I think that's probably why I'm

805
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,199
going like psychopath. But there isn't there. It's this, there's

806
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,320
some waxy about her, isn't there? Do you know what

807
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,679
I mean? Like you like a living waxwork?

808
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 3: Okay, but they never mind. I'm not gonna say that

809
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:01,880
out loud. I'm not gonna say it out loud. What

810
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:10,960
it's just not me? They say black don't crack. Maybe

811
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:12,079
she just has really good skin.

812
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:18,119
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't necessarily mean looks. I just meant

813
00:48:18,199 --> 00:48:22,239
this just something. Yeah, I don't know.

814
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,519
Speaker 3: Do you see emotion in her eyes?

815
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,519
Speaker 2: The dead? The dead?

816
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 3: But what about her kids? She's got three kids, She's

817
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:34,079
married to a British guy.

818
00:48:36,599 --> 00:48:38,519
Speaker 2: He deserves some fucking metals.

819
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,679
Speaker 3: They love each other. Somebody was married to you at

820
00:48:43,679 --> 00:48:44,760
some point. That's not true.

821
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 2: Actually, the thanks. Oh, you really crack yourself up, don't

822
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:01,360
you look. Look at the state of it. Jesus Christ.

823
00:49:02,119 --> 00:49:04,760
I hope people are watching this. I hope people watching

824
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,119
the joy, the joy of Danny pointing out the fact

825
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,800
that I didn't even mean so.

826
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,159
Speaker 3: I didn't make that joke on purpose. It literally came

827
00:49:13,199 --> 00:49:17,920
out and then I realized how funny it was afterwards,

828
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,440
which was good. I needed this laugh. I've been in

829
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:26,199
a funk all day. I'm gonna cry a little bit

830
00:49:26,679 --> 00:49:27,679
laughing so hard.

831
00:49:32,559 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 2: It was so funny.

832
00:49:34,079 --> 00:49:36,159
Speaker 3: I didn't it was on purpose either. It was just

833
00:49:36,159 --> 00:49:37,039
an accidents.

834
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,280
Speaker 2: That's it. It's always it's always totally cool when people

835
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,679
really tell you how funny they are. It's like it's

836
00:49:42,679 --> 00:49:44,559
like one of the coolest things people can do.

837
00:49:45,159 --> 00:49:47,519
Speaker 3: Well, I'm not funny, that's the thing. I'm not funny

838
00:49:47,519 --> 00:49:48,800
at all. You want to know how I know I'm

839
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,960
not funny When I was in the Navy.

840
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you send me voice messages all the time. I

841
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:55,159
know you're not funny.

842
00:49:55,119 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 3: Exactly, so you already know.

843
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:57,559
Speaker 4: No.

844
00:49:57,679 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 3: The day that I found out I was not funny,

845
00:50:00,199 --> 00:50:02,280
we were in the van. We had like all the

846
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,840
we were on our way to work and everybody was.

847
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,519
We were on deployment whatever, so we were on the

848
00:50:06,559 --> 00:50:08,760
van and they're all like joking around and everybody's like

849
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,320
adding on, like making it funnier and funnier. Then I

850
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:15,840
added something on and everybody got quiet and nobody laughed,

851
00:50:17,159 --> 00:50:19,400
and I was like, oh no, and then somebody else

852
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,360
said something like break the tension because now it's like

853
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,599
really awkward, and then they all started laughing again, and

854
00:50:23,599 --> 00:50:27,760
I was like, I don't think I'm funny, Like I

855
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,280
think I'm really not funny.

856
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 2: No, I think that might have been a special type

857
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:35,440
of funny because there's there's there's levels of my phonny.

858
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,599
Because I think I can be pretty funny, but I

859
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:44,920
have a general like general admission funny. Yeah, I have

860
00:50:45,079 --> 00:50:48,039
like I have like a secret funny, which is really

861
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,320
pretty low down towards the gout of funny.

862
00:50:52,119 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 3: After that, I decided that I shouldn't make any jokes.

863
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,599
I shouldn't even try to be funny. So I cracked

864
00:50:56,599 --> 00:50:59,760
myself up, but like, I don't try because I'm not funny,

865
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:01,920
just like I know I can't sing, so like I

866
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:02,880
would never try to sing.

867
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 2: So right, let's get to get this back some sort

868
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:11,280
of no, No, that's your podcast. To get this, that's

869
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:12,119
my podcast.

870
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 3: Normally I'm sucking up your podcast if you're right.

871
00:51:19,639 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 2: So if if the Charlie Kirk assassinations inside job thing.

872
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but why why do they kill him?

873
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,760
Speaker 2: Exactly right? Who benefits? So that that's one thing I

874
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,039
don't think Israel benefit. People are saying that he's turning

875
00:51:34,039 --> 00:51:36,960
the Israel and stuff like that. I don't. The only

876
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,039
thing that like, I just don't buy it.

877
00:51:38,679 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 3: Makes the most sense to me that I've seen is

878
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,199
that he was going to reveal that Jeffrey Epstein's still

879
00:51:43,199 --> 00:51:46,480
alive living in Israel. That's the only thing. And I'm like, okay, well, yeah,

880
00:51:46,519 --> 00:51:47,239
we already knew that.

881
00:51:48,039 --> 00:51:51,519
Speaker 2: M hm. See if if e's a I don't believe

882
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:52,519
he's in Israel.

883
00:51:52,679 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 3: I don't think he's in Israel. I think he's living

884
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:55,079
on an island.

885
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:56,159
Speaker 2: Somewhere, all island somewhere.

886
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think he's got like a non stop

887
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,880
supply of children.

888
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

889
00:52:04,119 --> 00:52:05,599
Speaker 3: I didn't want to say it out loud, but I

890
00:52:05,639 --> 00:52:07,599
was like I can't, and like, I can't leave it there.

891
00:52:08,559 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could could have could have said stuff, but yeah, no,

892
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,480
I think right, I think the it's one of the

893
00:52:15,519 --> 00:52:20,480
reasons I've like, I think it was. It was it

894
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:24,760
then I said, I said this time I hang out.

895
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,519
Didn't that on your show? When we did the live stream,

896
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,760
it was when I really sort of realized, oh, fuck,

897
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,039
nothing's going to change, you know. The there was there

898
00:52:34,079 --> 00:52:36,039
was a brief amount of hope that you know, we

899
00:52:36,079 --> 00:52:38,800
thought Epstein stuff is going to be released. We thought

900
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:43,639
there'd been more the more spicier side of Jeff case

901
00:52:43,639 --> 00:52:45,519
stuff is going to be released, and.

902
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 3: Then nothing came out, or everything that did come out

903
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,559
as redacted, so you can actually yeah, yeah.

904
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, And but it was more the fact that when

905
00:52:55,840 --> 00:53:01,280
nobody started to ask the questions of right the Epstein

906
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:05,239
Islands stopped? Now, we need to look for what other

907
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:10,840
sites were operating within this network. Nobody's ever even suggested

908
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,840
that there was another island or another town.

909
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:20,159
Speaker 3: Or transferred to somebody else. No, they hit it because

910
00:53:20,199 --> 00:53:22,639
they don't want you to know. They're actively trying to

911
00:53:22,679 --> 00:53:23,239
cover it up.

912
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:29,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, I think it's happening in the woods.

913
00:53:29,599 --> 00:53:30,800
I think it's Cabin in the woods.

914
00:53:32,159 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 3: I've never seen that. I mean, isn't it a scary movie?

915
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:36,880
You think I'm gonna watch a scary movie.

916
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,280
Speaker 2: No, it's not not really. It's kind of it's because

917
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,440
it's there's a little bit of comedy in it as well.

918
00:53:43,519 --> 00:53:44,679
But are you gonna want.

919
00:53:44,559 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 3: It mostly scary? I'm not watching it.

920
00:53:49,639 --> 00:53:55,119
Speaker 2: Go ahead, spoil it right quick, snop. Cabin in the

921
00:53:55,119 --> 00:54:03,320
Woods it is half teen slash year film, half Hunger Games,

922
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:10,360
half like demonic New World Order conspiracy.

923
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 3: I should watch it.

924
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 2: I realized that's three halves and a third. Kids go

925
00:54:20,119 --> 00:54:26,320
to cabin, bad ship goes in cabin. But like in

926
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,960
a Truman Show esque way, the bad things that happen

927
00:54:30,039 --> 00:54:33,440
in the cabin aren't just like zombies attacking. There's people

928
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:37,079
sending the zombies in, like like send the zombies you

929
00:54:37,199 --> 00:54:40,440
know where will Yeah, that type of thing. And it

930
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,719
gets the end. These people are killed and stuff like that.

931
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,719
One of them says why and this is proper, proper

932
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,639
an So if I miss it, if there's any Cabin

933
00:54:46,679 --> 00:54:48,800
in the Woods fucking fans out there, I'm sorry if

934
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:52,719
I've fucking knocked done this justice. And at the very

935
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:56,840
end when they I think one of the one of

936
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,760
the girls is a virgin, and I think that's who's

937
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:03,920
got to die, and I think she doesn't die and

938
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:08,079
then the whole fucking place starts falling apart because they

939
00:55:08,079 --> 00:55:11,039
didn't want to do this, but they had to keep

940
00:55:11,079 --> 00:55:13,599
doing it. They've been doing it for centuries to appease

941
00:55:13,679 --> 00:55:17,159
what like the fucking whatever god it was they were appeasing.

942
00:55:17,639 --> 00:55:20,599
Speaker 3: You brought this up one time in it blew my mind.

943
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's because I'm fucking brilliant.

944
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,199
Speaker 3: You're not that smart. But it did. Really, it really

945
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,000
hit me because you're like, what if they're doing this

946
00:55:29,079 --> 00:55:32,079
because they have to? Yeah, is this where you got

947
00:55:32,079 --> 00:55:34,320
this idea? Is this movie? No?

948
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,679
Speaker 2: Actually I said it on a podcast and someone else said,

949
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:39,239
that's a little bit like Capra in the Woods, And

950
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,000
I went to watch Capra in the Woods.

951
00:55:41,159 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 3: Oh, that's crazy.

952
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:51,760
Speaker 2: Could be those So what was what?

953
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:52,519
Speaker 3: What was the thing?

954
00:55:52,679 --> 00:55:54,760
Speaker 2: I think it was? It was like Satanism essentially. That

955
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:56,480
was kind of where it was pointing towards. It was

956
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,920
that they were getting sacrificing towards some sort of dark law,

957
00:56:00,199 --> 00:56:02,159
because otherwise you'd suck shit up.

958
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:06,280
Speaker 3: Do you think that that's what's happening?

959
00:56:08,679 --> 00:56:10,559
Speaker 2: I think it was weird. I can't remember where I

960
00:56:10,599 --> 00:56:13,119
was watching or listening to the other day, and somebody

961
00:56:13,159 --> 00:56:18,519
pointed out that at some point in literature we got

962
00:56:19,679 --> 00:56:25,119
bashful about using the word children when it comes to sacrifice,

963
00:56:26,039 --> 00:56:29,440
and we started replacing the word sacrifice. We started a

964
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:33,440
placing the world child or children with virgin or virgins.

965
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,079
And every time you hear of like it has to

966
00:56:37,119 --> 00:56:42,760
be a virgin sacrifice, they mean a child. That blew

967
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:43,440
my mind.

968
00:56:43,199 --> 00:56:46,039
Speaker 3: Because I thought maybe the innocence of it.

969
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 2: Regardless of what it is, what it meant is in

970
00:56:50,039 --> 00:56:54,400
my head it's like, well, it's just doubled the amount

971
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:57,960
of like child sacrifice stuff there is out there. Do

972
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,880
you know if you take it out? Because because if

973
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:04,280
you say, oh, a virgin must be sacrificed to the

974
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,480
monster that's outside the cave, you might your mind's instantly

975
00:57:07,519 --> 00:57:10,679
a twenty year old girl chained to a fuckingite piece

976
00:57:10,679 --> 00:57:13,239
of wood, like in a white dress, isn't it.

977
00:57:13,559 --> 00:57:14,599
Speaker 3: Yeah?

978
00:57:14,639 --> 00:57:18,199
Speaker 2: But if you then swap that over, got fucking sacrificing

979
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,440
children to whatever was in that cave, there has to

980
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:32,400
be like, h there there is a there is a

981
00:57:32,519 --> 00:57:36,920
natural instinct. I'm not saying everyone has this instinct, I think,

982
00:57:37,039 --> 00:57:39,639
but I think the the reason child killers are so

983
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:47,159
repugnant to us is because the it goes against what

984
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:51,119
most of us feel Jereman most especially his parents, what

985
00:57:51,239 --> 00:57:56,239
most of most of us feel in here. I know

986
00:57:56,280 --> 00:58:00,239
people bring wars up and things like that horrible. The

987
00:58:00,519 --> 00:58:03,239
idea of place is getting blitzed and stuff like that.

988
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:09,440
I don't think, although horrific, I think you can use

989
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,800
a different mentality to that, because no one's really in control,

990
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:14,880
do you know what I mean? Like, if you're signaling

991
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,639
a drone strike, I think it's a lot easier to

992
00:58:17,719 --> 00:58:20,800
press a button that sends drones out to a place

993
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:25,000
that you'll never see before on it like, and to

994
00:58:25,039 --> 00:58:27,920
see even including footage of buildings blown up that you

995
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,159
don't even really need to watch if you don't want to.

996
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:35,400
Right there, it's a harsher mentality when you read the

997
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:38,760
stories about you know, the they'd have the big bronze

998
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:43,400
statue of ball where the stomach would open up, and

999
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,880
they'd put children inside the inside the stomach, close it up,

1000
00:58:47,119 --> 00:58:50,079
and then set fire around it so they'd cook inside it.

1001
00:58:50,159 --> 00:58:52,000
And the reason that they used to bang drums and

1002
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:55,440
stuff like that was because it was to drown the

1003
00:58:55,679 --> 00:58:58,880
screaming out so their pets so the parents and other

1004
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:03,400
adults couldn't hear the children during the ceremonies. The fact

1005
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:09,079
that they were drowning the screaming out means that they

1006
00:59:09,119 --> 00:59:12,360
they didn't want they wanted some separation from what they

1007
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:12,880
were doing.

1008
00:59:13,599 --> 00:59:20,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like that that guilt. Yeah, so that's but

1009
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,920
even like you brought up war, and like when you

1010
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:28,920
think about war, like typically like it's it's hard anyway

1011
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,079
because it's war. But like you have a grown man

1012
00:59:31,159 --> 00:59:33,079
killing another grown man, you're like, those are two grown

1013
00:59:33,119 --> 00:59:37,239
men making a decision to do that or following orders

1014
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:40,519
to do that. But when you include children, that's when

1015
00:59:40,559 --> 00:59:43,320
people get so mad. That's when people are like, like

1016
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:47,679
you're killing children, like and people start like that's where

1017
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:49,199
like there's the there's a clear line.

1018
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:50,239
Speaker 2: M hm.

1019
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,599
Speaker 3: So like at any point, like you have somebody that's

1020
00:59:54,639 --> 00:59:57,079
like murdering people, there's like going on a killing spree,

1021
00:59:57,079 --> 00:59:59,000
and then they kill a child, You're like, ooh, that's

1022
00:59:59,039 --> 00:59:59,440
the line.

1023
01:00:00,239 --> 01:00:03,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, So this is what we've got documented, Like we've

1024
01:00:03,599 --> 01:00:08,199
got human sacrifice like this documented for thousands of years.

1025
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:15,079
And why do we think it stopped?

1026
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 3: We it didn't stop. It just wasn't like hiding.

1027
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, if so, it almost seems if and if you're

1028
01:00:25,559 --> 01:00:31,800
if you're doing something for so long, right it at

1029
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:35,400
some point somebody would say no, somebody would know if

1030
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:40,880
somebody has not done something. Yeah, and then so let's

1031
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,320
let's see. Let's say it's the big bronze statue where

1032
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:48,159
there where every fucking three weeks or whatever it is,

1033
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,199
we need to cookload of kids. It's just just what

1034
01:00:51,239 --> 01:00:56,039
we do around here, no televisions. At some point in

1035
01:00:56,039 --> 01:00:58,440
that history that they wouldn't have done it. Something would

1036
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,440
have happened like that. You even if it was technical

1037
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,360
issues with what they were doing. You know, it rained

1038
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,719
so hard you couldn't light the fire something like that. Yeah,

1039
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,239
and they'd have woke up the next day and gone,

1040
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:16,000
nothing happened. Were killing all these kids? We're killing kill

1041
01:01:16,039 --> 01:01:19,199
all these kids for no reason. The only reason you

1042
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,960
continue to do it is if there was some tangible

1043
01:01:23,039 --> 01:01:26,360
thing that happened. You would need feet because because it's

1044
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:30,280
such an extreme act, you would have to have You

1045
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,360
couldn't just do it on hearsay and promise.

1046
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 3: But what is it? That's the thing. So I'm about

1047
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:43,119
to say, something's gonna get me in trouble. It could

1048
01:01:43,199 --> 01:01:46,800
make child sacrifice, in my brain, make more sense if

1049
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:51,079
there was a reason. But for us, there's no reason.

1050
01:01:51,199 --> 01:01:54,840
Like for you to your point, for centuries and they

1051
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:56,920
were killing kids, right, and they were sacrificing this kids,

1052
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,599
something bad would happen, and they saw it. Everyone saw

1053
01:01:59,639 --> 01:02:03,119
what happened. Well, on the flip side of that, right now,

1054
01:02:03,519 --> 01:02:08,079
they're still sacrificing children in terrible ways and there's no

1055
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,679
like they've never stopped. If they would stop, then we

1056
01:02:11,679 --> 01:02:15,400
would we would know what would happen. But I see

1057
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,079
that's the thing that us they're doing it for no reason.

1058
01:02:18,599 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 2: That separates the war thing as well, doesn't it Because

1059
01:02:21,159 --> 01:02:26,039
in most situations, like in war, like the regardless or

1060
01:02:26,119 --> 01:02:28,320
even if it's if it's not like a huge war,

1061
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:32,519
and just like smaller domestic skirmishes, the reason that happens

1062
01:02:32,599 --> 01:02:35,440
is is because you see those people over there. It's like, yeah, well,

1063
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:37,519
if we don't fuck them up, they're going to fuck

1064
01:02:37,639 --> 01:02:39,920
us up, so we need to fuck them up first, right,

1065
01:02:40,039 --> 01:02:43,559
So there's there's a reason to do it. There is

1066
01:02:43,639 --> 01:02:48,840
no reason for human sacrifice be past well, but as

1067
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:52,559
far as we're considered past folklore and fucking magic, right,

1068
01:02:52,599 --> 01:02:55,199
So that's there has to be something. There has to

1069
01:02:55,239 --> 01:02:59,119
be something that backed up that idea, and if it

1070
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:02,039
backed it up thousand years ago or a few hundred

1071
01:03:02,119 --> 01:03:07,360
years ago, I think there must be some reason that

1072
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:10,159
people are doing it now, and there must be some

1073
01:03:10,239 --> 01:03:11,760
tangible benefit to doing it.

1074
01:03:12,039 --> 01:03:14,679
Speaker 3: You're trying to sell the story that the people that

1075
01:03:14,719 --> 01:03:18,119
are sacrificing children now are doing it for the benefit

1076
01:03:18,199 --> 01:03:20,679
of the world, like they're doing us a favor.

1077
01:03:21,679 --> 01:03:25,239
Speaker 2: No, No, I'm trying maybe, But what I'm trying to

1078
01:03:25,239 --> 01:03:28,280
say is that they're I don't think they're just doing

1079
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:33,519
it because it's like a fundamental evil thing, even if

1080
01:03:33,559 --> 01:03:35,679
it's not something that benefits humanity, say it's just some

1081
01:03:35,679 --> 01:03:38,800
of the benefits them say like that they like.

1082
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:40,599
Speaker 3: That's where it comes back to the Satanism thing.

1083
01:03:41,159 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So say they'd say they kill like a thousand,

1084
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,320
they get a free coupon to go and speak to

1085
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:49,039
the fucking astral realm. But and then they can bring

1086
01:03:49,119 --> 01:03:51,639
something back and all of a sudden, we've got Facebook,

1087
01:03:53,639 --> 01:03:59,079
like you know, so the that could be a thing too,

1088
01:03:59,239 --> 01:04:03,360
you know. The I don't know if it's just it's

1089
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:07,159
it's fucking wild to me, and I think the unfortunately

1090
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:12,880
there was a load of stuff done in the like

1091
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:16,679
during lockdowns with like all that. You had those documentaries

1092
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:20,960
like what was it called? What was the big Pizzagate

1093
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:24,079
documentary that came out? The lady died, didn't she though?

1094
01:04:24,159 --> 01:04:25,800
She was in the middle of making pot two and

1095
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:28,000
she was I think, I don't even know what.

1096
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 3: You're talking about. I watched the documentary on Rumble. That

1097
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:32,880
really fucked me up about Pizzagate.

1098
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:35,719
Speaker 2: Might be that one didn't have like a quite a

1099
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:42,920
posh female voice narrating it. No, God, was it out

1100
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:46,320
of Shadows that it was called. I think it might've

1101
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:48,679
been called out of Shadows something like that. There was

1102
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:51,079
there was a couple at the time, like around that

1103
01:04:51,159 --> 01:04:53,039
sort of lockdown time that came out. They were really

1104
01:04:53,079 --> 01:04:57,719
good and people were really talking about this, and then

1105
01:04:58,119 --> 01:05:03,280
the Epstein thing broke either, Wow, now we're getting something somewhere,

1106
01:05:04,079 --> 01:05:07,039
and ever since then it is being sy up after

1107
01:05:07,199 --> 01:05:13,159
sy up after drama after war and yeah, it's I'm

1108
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:17,360
convinced there was an O ship button pressed at some

1109
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:19,599
point because of that, because we.

1110
01:05:19,519 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 3: Were getting too close to the truth because.

1111
01:05:21,599 --> 01:05:22,719
Speaker 2: People were talking about it.

1112
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:26,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, but people haven't stopped talking about it.

1113
01:05:27,119 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 2: I think they happened, not to the same level as

1114
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:32,239
it was. There was there was a ton where pizzas

1115
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:36,440
like pizza gate was flat Earth, it was Tartaria, it

1116
01:05:36,559 --> 01:05:37,760
was the e was That's true.

1117
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 3: I think that pizza Gate has like almost like gone away.

1118
01:05:41,519 --> 01:05:44,039
People don't even talk about Pizzagate. They're like, like it

1119
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:47,119
like it never even happened. That's a good point, Yeah,

1120
01:05:47,199 --> 01:05:49,920
I guess to me, like it's it was so impactful,

1121
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:51,920
like doing the research and learning all this stuff, like

1122
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,679
it impacted me so deeply that I'm like, how would

1123
01:05:54,679 --> 01:05:58,719
anybody ever forget about all these children being sacrificed and wayfair?

1124
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:00,400
Which I haven't covered, but I know, like I'm going

1125
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:03,920
to cover it soon because I like hate myself, but like,

1126
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:07,079
like to me, it hit me so deep that I'm like,

1127
01:06:07,119 --> 01:06:10,559
how could anybody stop talking about this? But also on

1128
01:06:10,599 --> 01:06:13,960
the same same coin, that's why people stop talking about.

1129
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:19,440
Speaker 4: It, Yeah, because it's so fucked That's the reason, like

1130
01:06:19,639 --> 01:06:24,800
it basically changed our podcast, Pizzagate, because that was I

1131
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:27,239
was getting into all this stuff I was doing, Like

1132
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:30,639
I say research, I don't sometimes.

1133
01:06:30,159 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 2: When I turn around and say I was researching it,

1134
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:35,880
I feel like a fraud because I wasn't sat in

1135
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:41,039
a library pouring over ancient volumes in different languages. I

1136
01:06:41,119 --> 01:06:43,599
was watching some fucking videos on bit shoot.

1137
01:06:45,119 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 3: What would you call what I research? What would you

1138
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:48,559
call what I'm doing?

1139
01:06:50,119 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 2: You've got a slave to deals, now, haven't you?

1140
01:06:52,039 --> 01:06:55,159
Speaker 3: No, I do not. Firstly, she does some of them.

1141
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:57,280
She does some of them, for sure. I'm not taking

1142
01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:59,719
any credit away from her. She was fantastic, not my

1143
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:03,039
and she listens to this and she laughed the last

1144
01:07:03,039 --> 01:07:04,760
time you said this, so I'm hoping that she's gonna

1145
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:12,199
laugh again. No, I still first, Okay. Also, she's new

1146
01:07:12,199 --> 01:07:14,559
to the team, so I've been doing the research for

1147
01:07:14,599 --> 01:07:17,320
this whole thing for most of the time. She doesn't

1148
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:19,480
fantastic job. I'm not trying to take anything away fro her.

1149
01:07:19,519 --> 01:07:20,039
She is great.

1150
01:07:20,679 --> 01:07:26,679
Speaker 2: That puts your no, no, But that puts your sanity

1151
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:31,400
in a very questionable position, because before she joined Danny,

1152
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:34,159
it was just you and you just refer you, just

1153
01:07:34,239 --> 01:07:36,159
referred to as being new to the team.

1154
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:42,119
Speaker 3: She is new to the team. Oh shit, we are

1155
01:07:42,159 --> 01:07:47,920
a team now, her and me. She counts as par

1156
01:07:48,039 --> 01:07:52,360
the team. Before it was just me by myself, a team,

1157
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:58,000
all my personalities in one go. Here we go no, Taylor,

1158
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:06,400
I think Taylor counts.

1159
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:04,039
Speaker 2: Otherwise you're a psychopath.

1160
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:07,039
Speaker 3: But we already knew that was happening. We already knew

1161
01:08:07,079 --> 01:08:07,719
I was going insane.

1162
01:08:08,559 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, like we we ended up. I was looking into

1163
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,559
all this stuff and Ali's the co host on the show.

1164
01:08:15,639 --> 01:08:17,359
I was like, this is like because we were we

1165
01:08:17,359 --> 01:08:22,119
were called alien addict back back then. I'm having the

1166
01:08:22,199 --> 01:08:25,239
persons we had Dave and we were like, look, we

1167
01:08:25,279 --> 01:08:29,640
need to talk about other stuff. We dragged Oli kicking

1168
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:31,640
and screaming change the name of the podcast.

1169
01:08:32,399 --> 01:08:36,039
Speaker 3: That's because of all he's obsessed with aliens, y is.

1170
01:08:36,119 --> 01:08:39,279
Speaker 2: But to be fair for him, he's hit a rich

1171
01:08:39,399 --> 01:08:43,119
vein of aliens at the minute, hasn't he. We haven't

1172
01:08:43,119 --> 01:08:45,800
been able to get away from it. Like late lately,

1173
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:49,960
it's just unfos here and fucking AI aut list there.

1174
01:08:54,039 --> 01:08:55,079
Speaker 3: But he's pretty happy.

1175
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:58,319
Speaker 2: But it's on its closest approach that are a three

1176
01:08:58,319 --> 01:08:59,359
eye at lists now, isn't it.

1177
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, you haven't even said anything bad about all this

1178
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:03,720
whole podcast.

1179
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 2: I said he couldn't read to start with.

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Speaker 3: We know that's that's not true. Though he can read.

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I mean, I'm pretty sure he can read he can

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read a little bit. I'm going to message and see

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if he can.

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Speaker 2: Read it, like d worn in signs, speed limits, that

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sort of stuff like that what he needs to function

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in the world with. Ye, I think he fakes it.

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Speaker 3: His insanity.

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Speaker 2: No, it's like his h his his dyslexia, because it

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was like his his level of dyslexia. It seems to

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expand exponentially.

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Speaker 3: So firstly, you did not start with he has dyslexia.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's retarded.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't make him retarded. Ma oh my god, you.

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Speaker 2: Said feeds you're nice to him.

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Speaker 3: I just happened to notice that you haven't made a

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jab at all his whole time, except he didn't come

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on the podcast.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, No, it's it seems to get worse when

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it involves me doing something for the podcast. But he's like,

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oh I couldn't possibly read that, or okay, but.

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Speaker 3: He does research sometimes when it comes to aliens.

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Speaker 2: No, he's great at least at least my boy.

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Speaker 3: Well that's good because uh, I don't know what you

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would do without him.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what to do with that him either.

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Speaker 3: You guys are two peas in a pod. Mm hmm, okay, Lee,

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it's been past time. So tell me tell don't tell me.

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I know where I can find you. You tell everybody

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else where they can find you.

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Speaker 2: If you want to come and listen to me talk

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about more conspiracy type stuff. You can find us any

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every where you find the podcast things. At the Daily

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Conspiracy Podcast. We are the Daily Conpod, which every time

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I say it is more and more awkward. But yeah,

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we are at the Daily Compod on all of the

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social media's. You can find us on Rumble as well.

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And if the wind is in our direction and we

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can be bothered with the amount of bloody folks, copyright

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strikes and stuff we got on YouTube, we might even

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start putting putting our stuff back on YouTube soon.

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Speaker 3: I can add you as a collaborator now on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: You don't know, you don't want that, you don't that heat.

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Speaker 3: Well, a lot of people will message me and be like,

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I listened to you on the Daily Conspiracy Podcast and

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that's how I found your podcast.

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Speaker 2: That's good, So I'm glad about that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they clearly like you.

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Speaker 2: They should.

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Speaker 3: But all right, well until next week, my friends, stay

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skeptical and we'll see you all then. Hey, friends, the

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