Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the program. When
we talk about Brian Coohberger and the case against Brian Colberger,
one of the cases that I bring up is Alec Murda.
And the reason I bring that case up is a
the notoriety and b because of the similarities in how
the investigation unfolded, especially when we're talking about the evidence. Now, remember,
for Alec Murda, one of the biggest problems that he
had was the phone evidence that was against him. All
of that digital evidence that was collected that was circumstantial
on its own, well, when all of that evidence was
added up together, in its totality, it ended up being
the anchor that sunk Alec Murda. And I've said from
the beginning that I think the same exact fate awaits
Brian Colberger. I think that the totality of the evidence
against him is so strong that there's no way for
his team to get him off the hook. The only
chance that they have is some kind of prosecutatorial misconduct
where the prosecutors screw up and they make some kind
of mistake, then maybe, just maybe Brian Colberger will get off.
But the evidence that they've compiled so far, when you
look at it in its totality, it's really difficult for
me to see how Brian Colberger has a path to victory.
And today in an article from the Sun, they're talking
about the same thing. So let's dive into this article
and let's get caught up. Headline Disturbing evidence crucial clue
in both Brian Colberger and killer dad Alec Murdau cases
may determine verdict in Idaho murder's trial. This article was
authored by Caitlin Hornick. Cell Phone records that were a
key clue in convicting disgrace lawyer Alec Murda could also
determine the verdict and Brian Colberger's trial. A lawyer has said, now, look,
I'm certainly not a lawyer. In fact, I'm a barely
functioning human being, but obvious that there's a big comparison here,
and when you look at the president that's been set
time and time again with digital evidence, I don't know
how anyone can look at what's been compiled against Brian
Colberger and say, ah, you know what, this is weak.
All of this is gonna get tossed out because from
where I'm sitting, it doesn't look like any of that's
gonna happen. And the comparison to Alec Murda and the
avalanche of evidence that came falling on his face, I
think the similarities are very obvious. And then you look
at how the lawyers are going about the defense, and
it's the same playbook. Attack the process, go after the process,
because when you don't have the evidence on your side.
Once again, this is the only way that you can
attempt to defend yourself. And take a look at Richard
Allen down there in Delphi. We can go on and
on and on and on. Glen Maxwell, same thing. And
when you're somebody who's innocent, well, you're gonna go after
the evidence and you're gonna provide your own evidence and
alibi people that knew where you were, something that backs
up what you're saying. Alec Murda didn't do that. Brian
Colberger so far has not done that. Glene Maxwell, she
didn't do it either. Alec Murda was found guilty of
the murders of his wife, Maggie and youngest son Paul
earlier in twenty twenty three. Coburger, meanwhile, is awaiting trial
after being accused of the murders of four University of
Idaho students. And I remember during the Alec Murda trial,
the same kind of contrarian people out there talking the
same kind of yip yap about Murda. Oh yeah, he's
gonna get off. It's all circumstantial. They can't really slam
it together, all of those cell phone pings that means nothing. Well,
how'd that all work out for you? And the same
people are doing the same thing once again here with Coburger.
And it's ridiculous because it's obvious that the evidence that's
been compiled is very, very strong, especially when you take
into account the totality of that evidence. And Mogan twenty one,
Kaylee Gonsalvis twenty one, Zana Kernodle twenty and Ethan Chapin
twenty were found slain at an off campus apartment in Moscow, Idaho,
nearly one year ago. But an expert said that cell
phone activity, a key piece of evidence in the Murdoch case,
could also be used to determine a verdict in Coburger's case.
Emily D. Baker, a lawyer and former Los Angeles Deputy
District attorney, spoke to the us SUN about the Coburger
case and what fake could await them. There is so
much that we don't know about this case yet, Baker shared, Well,
that's true. There's a lot of stuff that we just
don't know, a lot of stuff filed under seal, a
lot of stuff going on in the courtroom and inside
of the judges chambers that we're just not privy to.
And if you don't have all the contact, obviously you
don't have all the story. But what we have seen
so far is not looking good for mister Coberger. Baker
said that a little important to hear what witnesses said
to the Grand Jerry and what other roommates who were
in the home knew. I feel that that's going to
be some of the most important evidence for the case.
She said, Yeah, I don't know about that. Considering the
DNA evidence that was found on the sheath, then you
have all of the digital evidence, and we don't even
know yet if his WiFi has connected to somebody else's
router in the area. You know, if he was there previously,
maybe he forgot to turn his WiFi off and it
tried to connect to the modem or the router inside
of the house out eleven twenty two King Road. See,
we just don't know. And where you have the cell
phone tower pings that are very challengeable when you have
GPS coordinates, that's a different story. So if his WiFi
did try to connect to one of the houses near
King Road, it's gonna be all bad for Brian Coolberger.
But just to be clear, we don't have that evidence
in front of us. Do the prosecutors have that, I
don't know, But that's the kind of evidence that is
a home run, seal your fake kind of deal. But
she also acknowledged some of the evidence that has been
made public through court documents, including Coburger's DNA being found
at the crime scene and his cell phone being off
during the time the murders took place. We've seen that
kind of evidence come up and be very impactful to
the jury. Baker said. That's because the jury is looking
at it in the totality. They don't look at the
evidence as piecemeal. They look at the evidence as it's presented,
but in the totality of that presentation, and when you
look at the evidence that they have so far when
it comes to Coburger, I just don't know what his
team's going to do here. As far as challenging the evidence,
like the Murdock case, where you know, mysteriously, if someone
who uses their phone all the time, it's all just
off during this discreete period of time, the lack of
activity can be very telling. Mained that the existed public
evidence is important, but there is still so much not
yet known due to the non dissemination order and the
sealed court filings. One thousand percent there's so much going
on behind the scenes that we just have a small
clue about what's really cracking off. And that's exactly how
the court intended it. They wanted to make sure that
there was a lid on this bad boy this trial
from the beginning because they understood the publicity and they
wanted to make sure that Brian Koberger couldn't claim that
he didn't get a fair shake phone records. In both
the Murda and Coburger cases, cell phones had played a
large role for Murda. He denied being at the scene
of the crime until cell phone footage proved otherwise. Imagine
trying to get off on the bullshit Alec Murda was
trying to get off on Oh yeah, it wasn't me.
There were five shooters. One of them was from the
planet Neptar, the other was Bigfoot. The other guy was
at Choupacabra. You see where I'm going with all of this.
Very unbelievable, right, same goes for Coburger, the silly ass alibi,
the rest of the nonsense. Fine, that might be great,
that might be some good cannon fodder to the knuckleheads
that are being contrariant. But to the rest of us
who are serious people, we understand the stakes here and
we understand that Brian Coohberger is up against it. The
video was filmed by Paul twenty two, shortly before he
was killed, and showed Murda at the family's dog kennels. Ultimately,
the video was the convincing factor for some jurors. One
jur Craig Moyer, told ABC News that the cell phone
video helped convict the disgraced attorney, saying that he was
certain it was Murda's voice in the clip, and he
had a bunch of people testify that said it was
his voice, people that knew him for years and years
and years. So what's the jury supposed to think? And
if you think anything different is coming in this Brian
Coburger case. Boy, oh boy, you're gonna be in for
a big old surprise. In the Coburger case, cell phone
activity helped investigators place him near the scene of the crime.
Coburger's phone was pinged near the crime scene twelve times
in the months leading up to the November twenty twenty
two murders. The phone was also pinged in the area
once in the hours after the killings. Court document show
further review indicated that the eight four five eight phone
utilized cellular resources on November thirteenth, twenty twenty two, that
are consistent with the eight four or five eight phone
leaving the area of the Coburger residence at approximately nine
am and traveling to Moscow, Idaho. Court document stated, Now,
imagine he shows up at this house and there's still
no police there. He must have been freaking out. He
goes back to see his work and there's no crime scene,
there's no corner, there's no nothing. Can you imagine the
panic that this numb nuts was feeling. Specifically, the eight
four or five eight phone utilize cellular resources that would
provide coverage to the King Road residence between nine to
twelve AM and nine twenty one am. Police identified is
eight four or five eight number after Coburger identified the
phone as his own in in August twenty first, twenty
twenty two police stop in Moscow, Idaho. And we've talked
about that too. How that stop and that conversation with
the police in Idaho directly led to them linking Brian
Colberger to what's going on here Coberger's alibi. While there
is some clear evidence in Coburger's case, Baker pointed out
that anything could happen once the child begins. Well, yeah,
I guess. I mean, I guess I could have a
rich uncle that I don't know show up and say, hey,
here's a couple million dollars. Is it likely to happen? No,
it's not. And I don't think it's likely that there
is going to be some kind of big bombshell from
the defense, unless, of course, it has to do with
prosecutorial miscomp then okay, I could totally see that, but
as far as evidence based, I don't buy it. Coberger's
defense is fighting hard over the DNA found at the
crime scene. She said, if for some reason the DNA
gets kept out because of how it was collected or
how it was tested, and those things haven't been ruled
on yet. That could be huge because while we saw
it in the probable cause aff of David, if that
doesn't come in at trial, you have a much more attenuous,
circumstantial case. Baker explained. Look, if they throw the evidence
out as far as DNA, it's a whole new ballgame.
If that were the case and the DNA evidence was excluded,
then yeah, it's a whole different ballgame and everything becomes
a whole lot more circumstantial. As far as the cell
phone activity is concerned, Baker said, there are many factors
at play. We're not talking about a densely populated city
like New York. We're talking about a much more sparsely
populated area. Baker said, So those cell phone towers might
ping from miles away. These are the type of points
that could come into play at a trial, according to Baker.
The lawyer also noted that Coberger's alibi will also be
called into question. We know from court filings that his
alibi seems to be that he was out driving alone
at night. Baker said, this is not an alibi that's
gonna help him at all. Yeah, that is the understatement
of the year. The whole alibi that they came up with.
I mean, I guess you have to have something, But
I don't know how they think it's gonna be a
successful move. I don't know how they think that using
this alibi that they came up with is gonna have
the juror saying to themselves, you know what. I think
what the defense's pitching here is legit. Brian Coberger is
just that kind of guy. He's out here having himself
a night's drive, listening to his audio book and enjoying
the night time er. I mean, I guess if you
weren't accused of murdering four people, I might buy that,
and not only accused, but all of the evidence that
we've seen here, I might be much more inclined to
listen to what you have to say. But as of now,
that alibi does more harm for him than good in
my opinion. So we'll see what the defense can come
up with. We'll see if they can poke some holes
in this. But so far, it's not looking good for
the defense. It's not looking good for Brian Kolberger, just
like it wasn't looking good for Big Red Alec Murda.
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