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Speaker 1: It's time to celebrate the previous team sport known to May,

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where modern day gladiators collide for all about.

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Speaker 2: Glory on the grid.

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Speaker 1: I let's talk some college football on Cougar Sports with

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Ben Kripple.

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Speaker 3: If you are a Texas Tech fan, or YU fan.

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Speaker 1: Or Utah fans, stop, listen to this right now. Share

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with your friends. If BYU loses to Texas Tech, they

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cannot be moved behind Utah. If Texas Tech loses to BYU,

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they cannot be moved behind Utah. So the very least

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what the Big Twelve is looking at next week is

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still having three top fifteen teams. There will not be

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a lot of chaos no matter who wins or loses

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the game in Lubock.

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Speaker 3: That is great for this conference.

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Speaker 1: On top of that, Texas plays Georgia, they're going to lose,

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Oklahoma is going to lose. There are teams ahead of

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Utah they're going to help BYU, Texas Tech, and the

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Utes all get in. If you're looking for a best

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case scenario for three Big Twelve teams to go to

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the College Football Playoff, we just got that. With the

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respect the Committee as giving this conference.

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Speaker 4: That is huge, huge, This League three bits.

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Speaker 1: It's not a joke anymore. It's not like, oh maybe

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like legitimately Utah you're in.

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Speaker 4: Let's get into this.

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Speaker 2: It's time to talk some college football and it's going

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beautiful smile as well. We got Drake tole host of

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Locked on Big twelve. Drake, how you living?

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Speaker 3: Ben? I don't know who opened the segment here, but

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whoever that guy was sounds hot. I like him already.

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This is good. Keep keep playing more of those audio clips.

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Speaker 4: We'll keep playing all of his clips.

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Speaker 2: Drake, why do you believe the committee gave some love

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to the Big twelve?

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Speaker 4: What happened, what happened over the last few weeks.

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Speaker 3: Well, what's interesting is, for the first time it feels

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like committee is not using an analytic from the ESPN

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that ultimately is more subjective than many people want to admit. Now,

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what's what's crazy, Ben, is to start this year, Missouri

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had the twentieth ranked strength of schedule in the country

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and they were the lowest ranked SEC team. Sixteen SEC

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teams got to be in the top twenty in strength

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of schedule coming into the year, So that just means

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other metrics that we see are skewed based on where

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we started. Of course, if you rank somebody high to

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begin of the year and it ended up sucking, we're

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still going to give you credit in the SEC for

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being that team that's ranked so high. So while you

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can say these metrics don't lie, the analytics don't lie,

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the numbers don't lie, they do based on where we start,

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based on where ESPN puts it. You know, BYU's not

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on the top twenty and ESPN's FPI and Utah is

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knocking down the door to be a top ten team.

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Obviously we cannot use those to decide who goes to

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the college football Playoffs. Well, the reason I think the

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committee liked the Big Twelve so much and that this

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was such a favorable move for the conference to have

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three teams in the top thirteen is because the coaches

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on the committee actually watched the games. They actually see

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the football, and given the idea that the committee is

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going to watch this year, the Big twelves in business.

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Speaker 4: They're in business, all right.

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Speaker 2: One of the things that BAYU fans have been debating,

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right it, is just how big this game really is.

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We went back and forth a little bit on this.

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On one hand, it's like, well, bay you could lose

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this game and still get to the Big Twelve Championship,

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so isn't that big. On the other hand, if you win,

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you could lose two more games and you're still in

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the Big Twelve Championship.

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Speaker 3: Right right. So here's the really tough part about the

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game between BYU and Texas Tech, is, as much as

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twelve has had since Texas and oh you weres here,

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the only problem with that is is the loser And

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is not going to move down that far. We're going

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to be in a fine spot as a conference. So

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on the one hand, yeah, it's huge a top ten matchup,

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and BYU can in essence lock in a playoff spot

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with a win against Texas Tech. At the same time,

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with a loss, BYU can still lock in a playoff

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spot against Texas Tech in the Big Twelve Championship. And

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so if Tech loses, this becomes much different for the

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Red Raiders and it means more for them. This game

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has to mean more for them as far as getting

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into the playoffs, going to the College Football Playoff via

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the Big Twelve Championship. For BYU, though, this is your

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meal ticket, This is your Willy Wonka, Charlie Tough of

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Factory or whatever it is. If you want to go

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to the conference title this game, you basically booked yourself

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a cricket, and for me, that makes it arguably the

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biggest BYU game in history.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty crazy to think of it that way. And

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like from a scattering reports standpoint and what you see

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from BYU and Texas Tech, how do you think these

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two teams match up.

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Speaker 4: Head to head Well.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was very funny that my friend Josh

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Pate comment on his show that BYU hasn't played from

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behind it all this year and that the Cougars have

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never had to rely on the pass. Now, this is

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a BYU team that is certainly run heavy, and man,

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look if you actually watched these games, if you actually

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watch the product YU has put out on the field

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the last few weeks especially, they are they're prone to

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getting down. They're prone to to you know, falling, especially

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in the first half, to coming to a slow start

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and then finding a way to rally and get it done.

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really well in the fourth quarter. And we know about

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this Texas Tech team is they played really well in

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the fourth quarter. Meaning to me, the old coach adage,

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the coach speak, has it been eight matters the most?

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It's the last four minutes, the first half, first four

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minutes to the second half you win that you win

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the ball game. This week, I think you could outscore

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your opponent fourteen to nothing in the middle eight and

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still lose because it's the last ten. It's the last

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ten that's gonna matter the most. Between two teams that

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play so well in the fourth quarter, BYU going on

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to take a double digit lead against Utah rallying in

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the fourth, or the Cougars rallying late in the game

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against Iowa State without L. J. Martin relying heavily on

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the path only on the pass and bear Backmeier to

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win against Iowa State rallying from double digits down against

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Colorado as well, or Arizona, that's what BYU does. They

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rally and they win. Texas Tech could start ahead ten nothing,

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third quarter, and by You still win this game. That's

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where I think this matchup gets so interesting, looking at

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two teams that are impeccable when the fourth quarter rolls around.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Drake, I've made the case today that the winner

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of this game should move up at least three spots

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in the college football playoff poll, and I think a

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loser should not drop below Notre Dame. Do you agree? Disagree?

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Should that happen? Will that happen? Depending on the result

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of the game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I watch football, of course I agree. You

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know that's the thing, and I just said, I hope

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the committee watches football. That's a good take, that's the

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right take, and I hope the committee agrees with that.

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But if the if they start to view away somebody

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made this point and it could come to fruition, and

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that's maybe they just ranked Utah so highly, ranked the

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Big twelve so highly. Here in a few weeks they

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can say, oh, you had the kopium. You were all

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over that coopium, like all right, man, we're hanging out,

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we feel good, we're we're we're okay, we're not having

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teams in the bottom of the top twenty five. And

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then they'll slap you in a few weeks by saying, oh,

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because there are no team in the bottom of the

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top twenty five, you're missing more key wins down the stretch.

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a hit at the end of this thing and then

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in four or five weeks. So it is overall important

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to me that we understand If Texas Tech loses to

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Notre Dame, they're lost to a top ten BYU team

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should not knock them below Notre Dame. If Texas Tech loses,

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they shouldn't be locked below Notre Dame. If BYU loses,

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they shouldn't be knocked below Oregon because they just lost

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on the road to a top ten team. Oregon lost

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at home to a top ten team. And look at

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the strength of record, the way that BYU and Texas

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Tech have both been able to win games. You can say, oh, well,

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BYU is not blowing anybody out, but BYU's winnings, they're

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doing the winning thing. That's the one we're asking them

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to win, and they are winning and against top twenty

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five opponents as well. Texas Tech is winning and against

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top twenty five opponents as well. I think the Thread

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Raiders the YU Cougar should both be in the top

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ten next week, no matter what happens. So that's again

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in the conversation of this being a massive game to

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the Big twelve, the loser should not be hurt by

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that much. And that's the reprieve that I think helps

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this conference no matter the result.

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Speaker 2: On Saturday, I'm going to give you my most hated

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stat of the Day that I found out ESPN College

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Game Day stat of the Day BYU ish and three

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all time and featured on ESPN College Game Day Saturday

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in Loverpool mark the fourth game in the in their history.

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Texas Tech is making its fifth appearance and they're one

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and three.

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Speaker 3: That sucks. I think that's about as clear as I

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can give you an analysis for that one. I mean

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that what that tells me is these are two schools

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that are I mean, that's a lot number.

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Speaker 4: Granted, granted. Let me let me add to this stat.

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Speaker 2: The last time both of these teams were, respectively I

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think featured. Let's see here, So the last time game

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Day was in Lubbock was two thousand and eight.

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Speaker 4: I believe that Texas that Texas Texas Tech.

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Speaker 2: Game, that Michael Crabtree game, and then the last time

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why you had Game Day in Provo was two thousand

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and nine. So, I mean, it's been fifteen sixteen plus

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years since the last time. And what's what's crazy is

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they're kind of on the similar trade when BYU was good.

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Speaker 4: The last time BA was really good.

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Speaker 2: Like consecut it over like a four year period, you know,

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you can say it was six to nine. They were

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double digit wins every single year and they were ranked

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in the top twenty five every single year. Texas Tech

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kind of had a similar deal going on with Mike

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Leach and their upward trajectory. Before Mike Leach left was

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kicked out and BYU had to go into independence. So

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now they could be the bells of the ball the

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Big Twelve.

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Speaker 3: Right. Yeah, So with that stat it shows me that

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these are two schools that when the spotlight is the brightest,

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they haven't played well. But honestly, the spotlight hasn't been

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very bright. Three times College Game Day, four times College

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Game Day, whatever it is. Again, there are SEC teams

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that will get that in the span of one year.

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And these are programs that in their history aren't getting

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the marquee matchups, aren't getting the spotlight of the nation.

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And so this is the changing of the guard in

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the Big Twelve and in college football there are new

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bloods who are establishing dominance year over year. BYU and

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Texas Tech will be those brands for this conference because

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of their willingness to spend and not forfeit culture that

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is the caveat Ten States. Spending money, they're losing you're

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seeing across the way at LSU they're spending money, they're losing.

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Auburn spending, they're losing the culture of Texas Tech and

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BYU is it's going to keep them at the forefront

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of college athletics and keep them winning big games. I

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mean this year BYU had big neon kickoff and beat Utah.

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Texas Tech big noon kickoff and beat Utah. The thing

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that I need people to understand this is maybe my

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favorite point to make for decades. Texas Tech and BYU.

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We're taking two and three star guys from Logan, Utah,

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from Lovett, Coronado, bringing them into the program and making

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them four and five star college football players. Diversities are

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known for culture and development. You take those same guys,

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those same guys developing players that were two stars, and

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now you give them four and five stars. You're creating

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a monster. You're creating NFL talent that these schools have

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not dreamed of yet because of the access they're getting

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to young stars who are much better than the talent

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pool that they're used to. This is the new era

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of college football where a school like DYU in Texas Tech,

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who can invest with development and culture can succeed at

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the highest level.

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Speaker 2: Drake Toll lockdown, Big twelve, Big twelve Insider talking some

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college football here on your Utah ESPN Radio network, and Drake.

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Speaker 4: Let me ask you this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so Obviously, the Big ten and SEC are the

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big the big kids on the block. Right, It's always

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been like ACC and the Big twelve have been pitted

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against each other.

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Speaker 4: Is who's the P three?

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Speaker 2: Are we seeing a greater visibility about who that P

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three is that third ranked conference is.

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Speaker 3: There is a serious conversation happening right now about whether

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or not the ACC will make it into the college

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football playoffs. We are a few key losses away at

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the top of their conference and a few good wins

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from the San Diego State, from a North Texas, from

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a Navy to say, if Navy beats Notre Dame, this

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is real. I don't think Navy will beat Notre Dame,

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but consider this. The number one team in the ACC

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right now in the polls is Virginia. I mean, you're

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you're coming to a gunfight with Virginia. You can't you

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can't do that. This is not This is not what

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we do to build brands in college football. The AEC

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needed the success of Miami and Clemson in Florida State

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to stay afloat at the top of the sport and

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still have these conversations about them being legitimate and now

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without those brands, now looking at Louisville, Virginia and Georgia

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Tech flipping up, I just don't think. I mean, and

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those schools are losing to NC State of all people,

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I just do not think. Where are we said that

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the big twelve in the ACC are comparable. One of

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these leagues has three teams in the top third team

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and an opportunity to get three teams in the College

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football playoffs. The other league is looking at a couple

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of savvy wins from San Diego State, and they might

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be out of the playoff picture altogether because again it's

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the top five highest ranked conference champions. If Memphis wins

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the conference championship, if San Diego State wins the conference championship,

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there's a real conversation about them getting in over a

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three lost ACC champion.

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Speaker 2: Drake, this team is led by Bear Bachmeyer, and I

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know you're gonna appreciate this. This BWA football team led

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by Bear bachbyer Texas Tech is led by Baron Morton.

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Has there ever been a time that two quarterbacks named

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Bear have had had you know, you know, combated on

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the grid iron against each other?

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Speaker 3: You know, I think specifically we need to take a

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look at one of these quarters is seventeen years old

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and the other is twenty six. I think that may

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be the real storyline.

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Speaker 4: It's weird six.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's much closer to twenty six than bear

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Backmeyer is to like thirteen, and and there's something to

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be said. This is like a cam rising situation that

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we all forgot about it a little bit when no

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one's making I think I graduated high school the same

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year as Baron Morton, and we just left that by

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the wayside. It is this quarterback matchup though. If Morton

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is healthy, is so great. And when I tell you

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you ever play you did, I know everybody did. When

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you play Mario and you get the star when you're

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you're zooming through there, whether it's you know, just straight

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up Mario, the Mario karp and you pick up the

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star and then bam, you're going twice as fast. I

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am so excited to see bear Backmeyer off a bye week.

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He just got his Mario Star. The dude was banged up,

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beat up by you asked him to be the entire

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offense in that game against Iowa State, And now we

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get to see bear Bachmeyer on on ten twelve days

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rest that's that's an animal I don't want to mess with.

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And Texas Tech is playing its sixth consecutive game. No

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one is talking enough outside of local media about how

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BYU is well rested and Texas Tech is not. If

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we were talking about all BYU's banged up interest, let

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me introduce you to Texas Tech, who keeps playing games

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weekend week out. They need a breather. BYU is not

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going to give them a breather.

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Speaker 4: So give me a score prediction or do you you

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got something here?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 4: I do have something. Go ahead.

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Speaker 5: So BYU is manifestly different on the road than they

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are at home in.

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Speaker 4: The way that they play games.

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Speaker 5: They've got two score deficits on the road in all

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three road games. They've trailed for a total of two

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minutes and fifty six seconds at home all year. Now,

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if BYU falls down like they have on the road,

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is there a way b why you can come back

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as they have been before?

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Speaker 3: There certainly is, And I mentioned this on my show

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quite a bit. I believe leave you know, Texas Tech

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analytically has a bottom twenty five rushing attack in college football.

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From an EPA standpoint, They're a very inefficient rushing offense.

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A lot of the rush yards this year have come

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later in games. If you really take a deep, deep

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look at how Texas Tech has built fairly gaudy runs staffs,

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and they've got that two headed monster at running back

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that I think will ultimately help them run the ball

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to an extent. But BYU's rush defense is so good,

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their linebacker corps is so strong that I think the

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opportunity for BYU to win this game will be coming

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back from down twenty to ten. It will be forcing

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Baron Morton into two turnovers. If BYU can turn Baron

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Morton over to the third or fourth quarter. And I've

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seen versions of Baron Morton that are turnover pron He

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has not shown that as much of this season, but

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I've seen it in my own two eyes, namely in

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the few matchups against Baylor, where I think, ma'am, if

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he settles back into old school Baron Morton, I'm going

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to give you the football. That's where BYU comes back.

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They're going to need turnovers. And you saw the Utah

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game from punts to interceptions, that's what helped BYU come

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back when they needed a rally and help BYU sustain

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a lead late, it will be the case for the

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Cougars that they're going to win in comeback fashions.

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Speaker 2: So score prediction b YU obviously a heavy dog here

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ten and a half. ESPN Analytics also gives Texas Tech

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a sixty point nine percent chance of victory over Under

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is at fifty two and a half.

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Speaker 4: How do you see it?

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Speaker 3: You know, I have gone so back and forth on this.

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I started the week at twenty seven to twenty four

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Texas Tech winning at home, and then I think that's

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too many. I think it's too high scoring. The way

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I see this game unfolding is Tech getting up thirteen

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to three somewhere in that category, and we see this finish,

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I mean, Will Farron just comes alive and becomes a

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man amongst boys. We see this game finish in the

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seventeen in the eighteen to sixteen category BYU winning by two.

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I think it'll be a slugfest. It'll be ugly. Get

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your field goal team out there. Forget the look. If

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I can tell Kyle witting him one thing right now,

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it's forget the analytics. Just kick the ball and this weekend.

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That should be the name of the game for these

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two teams kick the ball when you get when you're

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giving the opportunity eighteen sixteen BYU wins and one of

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the grossest, ugliest low scoring games. Texas Tech drops maybe

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one spot in the polls, the UYU comes up with a

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spot or two in the polls, and the Big twelve

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is still sitting pretty come Monday.

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Speaker 2: Best way to support you what you do, how you

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do it, Drake Toll for all of our listeners.

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Speaker 3: Yep at Lockdown Big twelve wherever you find your podcast

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and on YouTube at lo Big twelve. On Twitter, you know, Ben,

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I was logged out for some reason of my at

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Drake Sea Toll Twitter account for like four days and

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no one said anything. There are no wellness checks, there

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are no I mean, are the tweets that bad? Is

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it really that bad?

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Speaker 2: Follow Drake se Toll for all of these personal comments.

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And Savannah Banana commentary is the best stuff for the

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party animals and the Savannah Bananas is a broadcaster for them.

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Speaker 4: But everyone likes your Big twelve commentary. They don't want

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to hear about the Savannah bananas for whatever reason. I do.

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I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: I did not notice you were off though, I'll be honest,

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I'm sorry you don't tweet it up there.

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Speaker 3: So Ben, let me I'll give you this before I

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run two quick quick things. I saw a guy in

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a flight yesterday out of Dallas. He goes, I think

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I listened to you every day and I was like,

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you must be a BYU fan. And he goes, no,

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I just live in Utah. Oh you're a youth fan.

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He goes, no, I just live in Utah. Like, what

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kind of maniac is this? Taking it into Big twelve

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feed also, and I posted this this week. I just

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on behalf of myself, my family, on behalf of everybody

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that exists in the world. I won't to apologize to

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Aaron Rodrick and his entire family the amount of times

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that I've asked for that got to be fired. Hey,

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that's on me. Hand up, we can he can stick

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around for a while, Ben, Aaron Roderick, my apologies to you.

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Speaker 4: Oh now an apologist for Ara? I love it? Are

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you an apologist or just apologies?

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Speaker 3: Apologies? We'll see if apologies but comes in the in

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the vernacular. After this Saturday.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's go Drake toll, ladies and gentle thanks Drake.

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Speaker 3: Well, thanks Ben.

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Speaker 2: There you go, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls. Great

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