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Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to another episode of

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geek First Podcast. I am one of your hosts, apparently

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the still doctor Foster Staler Field that I'm joined by.

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Speaker 2: I am the truly terrible trailer Kirkland Patzer. Hey, I

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am the Adamar Caster Dilma.

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Speaker 1: Yes, ladies and gentlemen, we are here because there's so

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much news to be talking about. Cannot wait to get

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into all of this stuff with you guys.

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Speaker 3: But before we do, a few little plugs here for you.

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Speaker 1: Check us out with your interconnection. The search bar Geekers

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is our own base key first cast, our Twitter geek Versus,

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our Facebook. Check us out on our Patreon. We can

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get add free exclusive early episodes available. There have to

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shout out our amazing patron producers Aaron Braden, April of Darkness,

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Jack Grant, Mud Sam super Bad, Mic God Leves Me

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sixty nine, Jerry Renner. You folks are fantastic keeping the

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lights on for us.

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Speaker 3: We love you.

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Speaker 1: Outside of all of that, we have some wonderful things

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that have been dropping the past little bit. We got

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Star Wars Skelton Crew, I mean Corok gonna be tackling

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the episode three review for that This week as well,

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we have Warder Hear Him, Craven The Hunter. We have

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so many movies, so many things popping off. On that

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note of movies, what do you have cooking over there, Kirkland,

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I have.

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Speaker 2: A very special Niche solo review for September five if

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you were interested in hearing my thoughts. And it's mostly

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just the experience I think is what I'm talking about.

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But you know, there's also a movie review in the

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back half of that episode. But yeah, go check that out.

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That was a fun time, my first ever sold a review. Historic. Yes,

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like Davy Joe, I've only gotten positive, you know, feedback

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so far, so a lot of people have been digging

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that episode. Maybe I'll have to do another one. Maybe,

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you know, the next Monday mystery movie. You might have

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to just keep dropping these solo reviews. We'll see.

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Speaker 3: I heard The Hobbit might be in your next We'll see.

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Speaker 2: If I go to a mystery movie Monday and it's

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like an extended edition for the Hobbit, I uh, I mean,

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I'll sit through it. I'm sure I would, but we'll see.

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Maybe one day, I feel like, yeah, that's one that

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even if I'm gonna assume most people listening don't care

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or even know it's member five, But if you are

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a geek first fan, I feel like you got to

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check out that episode. It's just a very fun story

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in the first half an hour, and yeah it's historic.

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It's kirkled for solo cast. Need did a great job,

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so ever go check that out. Thank you, Thank you, Dollan.

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Speaker 1: And on the note of cooking, what do you got

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cooking over there for side quest on?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Good, good to bring it up so people may notice,

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where where's side quest? Where's the episode? This week things

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kind of got all moved around. Me and Taylor were

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a little confused about the release date of Indiana Jones.

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and then they had early access if you pay forty

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dollars to release on like the Thursday, So we both

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thought it released on Thursday. We're gonna have a review

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ready or like impressions on Monday. But we have it.

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I've played the game now, I don't know if you have, Taylor,

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but it didn't come out till Monday. So we're gonna

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push that to next week to give ourselves more time.

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So no side Quest this week, but you kind of

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got that bonus episode that I released on the weekend,

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so just kind of awkward. But like I said, next week,

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you're gonna get two episodes, so it's kind of all

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gonna work out. You're gonna Indie as a solo episode,

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and then you're also gonna get Game Awards US covering

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that and probably throw games we've been playing in there

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as well. So just standard Sidequist episode. So yeah, two

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episodes last week, two episodes next week, but like none

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this week. Kind of weird, but it all works out.

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I hope for everyone listening Stellar love it well, Future

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Commandos as well, Taylor reach your Commandos. But Dexter, that's

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coming out to Dexter.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yep, that's right. That's right, great name drops, lots

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of stuff that's just cooking. It's it's a good time

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to be.

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Speaker 2: To after nine as well, this after nine.

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Speaker 1: How can I forget. Yes, it's a good time to

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be a listener at Geek Versus podcast. December is definitely

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the month to just listen to the show. It's it's

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a good time. But with all that said and done,

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do you guys want to do you want to get

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it right into the news.

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Speaker 3: Do you want to do a quick brief like what

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you been watching and.

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Speaker 1: Just like quick fire it or do you just want

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to go right into this big main topic.

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Speaker 3: What do you guys think?

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Speaker 2: I'm very low on the what I've been watching. I

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have a couple things, but I might even just push

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those to Atter nine to be honest, because they might

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be relevant for a discussion there. So I'm fine with that.

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But we did get one Patreon question that could be

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a good little little icebreaker warm up if you want

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to do that, rightfah, let's do that. I like that?

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Speaker 1: Do it?

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Speaker 3: Yes? Like me?

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Speaker 2: Pull it up. I've been watching September five if anyone's interested,

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But I won't talk about that. That's so funny.

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming you were talking about the Dalton question in

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particularly okay perfect who wants to take it away?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, Dalton are as uh favorite Christmas movies? I

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like I like this question because it's just three words,

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very to the point. No preamble, no postam no his

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personal just just three simple words. I can go first here.

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I feel like my I don't know if I have

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any like deep cut interesting picks for this. I feel

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like I'm kind of the boring guy who's just like,

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Home Alone is my favorite Christmas movie and that's the

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only one I watch every year, so or the both

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of those, and then I don't. I don't venture past two,

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of course, I mean when I was a kid, I

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really like three, but I don't. I haven't watched it

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super recently. I don't think it holds up super well.

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Night Before, the Night Before is what it's called, or

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is it? Uh yeah, the one with seth Rogen and crew,

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I feel like that has been a yearly watch for

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me now, and that that one's really good. I mean,

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I love the Guardians Holiday Special. That's that's I feel

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like another one going in the rotation there. Elf is

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of course another classic, but yeah, I feel like it's

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it's really just Home Alone. That's like, that's the one

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I'm a diard for. And I feel like I haven't

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watched the original Grinch in a long time, but I

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love the Jim Carrey one and all his craziness there.

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I'm probably gonna rewatch that one again soon. So yeah,

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just like the four probably most popular Christmas movies are

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like my favorite so nothing, nothing, not too many deep

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cuts there, unfortunately. Yeah, I'm pretty similar. I feel like

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like my my big hitters would be Jim Carrey's Grinch

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elf for sure. This year, I watched Night Before pretty

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early before November. I was getting excited, like I guess

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for the season. Also, Netflix was like, this is leaving

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in five. Yeah, I see, That's why I watched. Was

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talking to Travis about that, Yeah, exactly, So that one,

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for sure, Nightmare Before Christmas, That's always my Christmas movie.

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I prefer that one over like the Halloween side of

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the same, the side of the Things. I feel like

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there's some debate on if that's more of a Halloween

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movie or Christmas movie. I definitely think it's more of

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a Christmas movie, but I've never seen that movie. Are

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you serious? Christmas? That is crazy? That's crazy to me, Taylor,

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What do you think?

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Speaker 3: I think that's insanity.

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Speaker 2: I feel like in the early days of the podcast,

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like I wouldn't have been too surprised by hearing stuff

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like that. But I feel like you've really been doing

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your research on just like the big, like popular movies

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that a lot of people have seen, Like you've been

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doing your there's so many movies. It's true so much,

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but that is one I should I that's interesting that

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you think of it more of a Christmas one. Maybe

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I will put that on this this holiday season. Finally,

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I want to hear your opinion on it too. If

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you prefer it's over, you know, the Halloween season or

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Christmas season, I will share. It's also like a pretty

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short movie, like it's it's a pretty easy watch, and yeah,

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it's good. I also kind of throw like Harry Potter

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and stuff and the Christmas seasons. I'm usually watching those

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over the Christmas months. But again, that was another one

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that I watched early, Shane, I've binge through those. I

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was sick for like a week, so it was just like,

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watching around the holidays is something like Frozen, specifically Frozen two.

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I truly love that movie. I like Frozen two more

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than Frozen one. Just just like wintery type movies are

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usually just fun to watch when it's cold and you're

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getting all snugly and cozy inside. So yeah, but definitely

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like the Home Alone, Grinch, Nightmare Before Christmas, like those

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are like every year. I would say Night Before of course,

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that's one that I kind of threw on there ever

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since we did that retro as well. But yeah, no,

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I feel like I've been kind of lacking, or not

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lacking slacking in the holiday movie watching Avenue Like Shane,

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December when we were watching a couple of them. So yeah,

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now that things kind of winding down a little bit,

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slowing down at work, maybe we'll just start getting more

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into the holiday festive mood because you know, we're gonna

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blank and Christmas is gonna be here. It's already the

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tenth the December today. It's pretty crazy. What what so

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Speaker 1: My Christmas movies? Yeah, I'm I'm like Home Alone, Uh,

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Santa Claus. Those are the classics, and I'm definitely watching

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those every single year. But the other ones that sneak

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in there, love actually The Holiday Jude Law, Jack Black,

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Cameron Diaz, Oh my goodness, that's a good, great one.

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Polar Express. You know, aside from everyone kind of looking

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like they're blind in that movie, it's actually a really

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really good time.

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Speaker 2: This is what the movie where? Like, what's his name?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he like mocabs like everyone. Oh yeahound. I just

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found that out this year. It is a fun Christmas

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factor there. I always hated that movie. The animation just

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creeped me out.

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Speaker 1: The animation is weird, but I I think the message

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in there and the music, it's just it's so good.

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Speaker 3: It's so good. Elf is another one that I really like.

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Speaker 2: Any bionical specials? I feel like that as like a

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Christmas special or something that's just a banger, not to.

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Speaker 1: My knowledge, but that is definitely that's a banger, all right.

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I'm a big fan of Jim Carrey's The Grinch. I

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love that movie a lot, and we watched that one

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a couple of days ago.

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Speaker 3: That one's that's just so good. It's so much fun.

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What else is there?

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Speaker 1: Christmas Vacation Jimmy Chase, that one is just I feel

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like that's a classic as well. I've been trying to

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get into a little bit more like the Hallmark movies

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this year, but a lot of them are just so bad.

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Speaker 2: So I feel like that of them is that they're bad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess so, But I just wish that we

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had the quality Christmas movies. I'm not itching to go

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rush to the theater and watch Red One that apparently

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like what did the rock say? He's watching Imax Dune

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and I'm pretty sure it was Dune and he's like, oh,

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this could be Red One could be like the next

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big thing if we put it on Imax.

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Speaker 2: Just as sure as is covered in chills already.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly him at the theater. Oh man, Well.

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Speaker 2: He's wearing like the Red One hat though, like his

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Speaker 3: For crying out out.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, those are those are some of the Christmas

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do you guys have anything else you want to add

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on the Christmas movies? No, Siry Travis dropped me another

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question from Mike that's snuck in there, and I feel

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like I got to answer it.

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Speaker 3: If you guys are.

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Speaker 2: Okay with that, I'm not a pause right now? Okay, sorry, Mike,

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you're out going on right now?

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Speaker 1: Well, he was asking can I can I get Taylor's

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at thoughts in the what have you watched?

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Speaker 3: Segment?

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Speaker 1: And I feel bad because I didn't see this when

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I was sorry about axing the what if.

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Speaker 3: So I'll make it very short. Forew Mike, very very short. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The movie was fantastic, Absolutely loved it, and like I

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Speaker 3: My my experience wasn't.

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Speaker 1: The ideal at the start because the fucking Maana two

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crowd was there and the lineup was long, and so

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I got in late to the movie. I missed the

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whole like opening song, and I spilled my popcorn because

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people don't know how to suck in their legs and

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the chairs and it was dark, so my drink fell

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out of my hands and went rolled down out. I

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lost the drink, No, no it was. It was a

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vitamin water that I bought. It had the cap, so

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that fell out of my hands when I tripped and

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spilled my popcorn and the drink rolled the fucking as

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out the out out the con So I was super

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pissed about that and had to eat the small popcorn

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was seasoning with nothing to like de highlight to cut

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like thirst quench right, and this is a two and

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a half hour movie, so that was rough. But once

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you know, once I sat down and actually got into

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the song. It's like, Okay, I'm grooving with this, like

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I'm loving this. Everyone in this movie just brought at

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the practical effects and the creations that they built for

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this film were wonderful, absolutely delightful. I left that theater

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wanting to go back and rewatch the movie right away.

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Speaker 3: It motivated me to go.

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Speaker 1: We watched Oz Green Powerful, and I want to go

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watch the actual Wizard of Oz the nineteen thirties one.

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So that movie is just great and I cannot wait

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for part two. I think they just absolutely just bang on.

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Speaker 3: This was great.

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Speaker 1: I was listening to the soundtrack at work. This movie's awesome.

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I think everyone needs to go see it. It's it's great.

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Speaker 2: So I saw the popcorn buckets. They have like a

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green one and a pink one I guess, or the

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two colors. So they're repealing with the combo with the

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cup and everything. That may landmark the heater, But yeah,

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I still don't have any interest to watch that movie unfortunately.

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But wild story, Taylorfield, you must have just been walking

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out like the Sahara desert in your throat no water.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. That's why I was so rass be

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right now, haven't gotten that water yet?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But anyways, that's all aside. Let's get into our

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main number one topic here, which is, holy smokesly, gentlemen,

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Chris Evans is returning to the Marvel Cinematic Universe, discuss.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna say that, you guys pick us in the

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ring like a couple of gladiators. Oh man, I feel

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like this is this is very funny to me, the

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timing of this because just recently the three of us

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did a bread and Butter this month's bread and Butter

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topic or was it November? Either way, it was bread

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and Butter that we did recently in which we discussed

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there was this you know, article for months and months

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back that said there's gonna be like I already feared

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the number, was it fifty or sixty people are coming

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back for the next Avengers movie, And we did like

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a long list, we charted out who are all of

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these people going to be, And when we got to

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Chris Evans were like, that's not happening. We just like

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can very quickly like move past him, and I don't

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think we put him on the final list at all.

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people that we have in this movie, now that he's

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one of them, and like, sorry, is this officially confirmed

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or is this still like Scooper status? Where where are

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we at with this one? It was seemed like pretty

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legit to me, Let me, let me factors Jack Rut.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like my sources that relate this information to

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me or maybe in question lately with some their information.

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Speaker 3: I think Kirkle can.

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Speaker 2: Speak to that. I'm clicking the source right now. Let

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me get the juice, go check the source. But yeah,

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I mean this brings up a lot of questions. One,

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it's it's fun and it's cool, but yeah, there's a

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lot of ways this could go. Right because he just

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recently came back to play human Torch, I don't think

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that's what we're getting in this. I don't think he's

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gonna play that bit role again. I think not even that.

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It would be like, you know, you can always do

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different multiverse version. Of course, one didn't survive to the

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end of that movie in Dunpool Wolverine. But I don't

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think that's what we're getting. And then it's like, Okay,

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is he doing cap again or is he coming back

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as a villain and the way that Downy isn't that

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and like that could be your leading villain pair or

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something is Downy and Evans playing different versions than they

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have before, which would be super duper fun. And I

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think they'd be fun for Evans. He has done a

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little bit more villainous stuff in the years since since

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playing as Captain America of course, So I kind of

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feel like that would just be that would just be

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a layup, like throw those two heads on the poster

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as like the two villains of it. Like, I think

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that could be really cool and interesting. Uh do I

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have a pitch of who that villain would be? Not necessarily,

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but I think that would be a more fun route

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to go than just him coming back as CAP.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Do you guys think if he if just kind of

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narrowed it down to like if he was Cap again,

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do you think it would be a multiverse situation where

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we get like a young fit Cap again and he

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would be fighting or would he be like the old

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one and he's just like in here and gets like

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killed off or something to have like a big death

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that like fuels everyone. I would say definitely not the

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the ladder of those options. I think that although he

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didn't die after endgame, it still felt like the final goodbye,

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and in a similar sense to Tony, Like Tony was

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a big emotional goodbye because he you know, sacrificed himself,

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but still saying goodbye to you know, old Cap. It

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felt like that, like like we were closing that chapter.

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So although it's different and one of them live, one

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of them died, I think just the goodbye felt very similar.

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So I think it would be a terrible idea to

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just bring him back just get murdered like instantly by

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I don't know, let's just say, you know, Robert Downey

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Junior or something. It could be like a good moment,

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but I don't know. I and like that's just my

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initial thoughts. Maybe they can do it in a more

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eloquent way that really sells me on it. I won't

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judge it until I see it if that is the case,

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but I I think I think it would be. I

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don't know, because I have like weird thoughts on this

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where right away it's just like, Okay, that's kind of

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like the easy cheap Well it's not the cheap option,

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it's the easy option maybe throw out a bunch of

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money to get Chris Evans back, and you know that, uh,

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like we already got Robert Downey Junior for infinite money,

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and getting Chris Evans back, like just having those two

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faces on the poster, like that's definitely gonna get buzz

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and like definitely gonna get butts and seats having those

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two back. So like right away, I'm like, ah, that's

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just like the easy play, but it's also like, fuck,

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it's gonna be so like hype though, like if if

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it is a really big setup for I don't know,

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more villainous side to these two individuals. So yeah, what's

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my train of thought there? I'm sorry discuss someone.

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Speaker 3: The table turned so him him coming back?

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Speaker 1: I think that, Okay, we've seen the dynamic where he's

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scoring off against Robert Dounny Junior in Civil War, and

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I think having that kind of dynamic repeated, I don't

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think that they're going to tap into that. That they've

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tapped into him being his other self, his Fantastic four character,

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which I think human tort I think that's great. Sure,

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absolutely you got to do that, and they did that,

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so all that's really left, I feel like is for

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him to come back, as if he comes back to

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get killed off right away, I feel like they've already

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done that as well with Captain Carter coming back in

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Multiverse of Badness. So I feel like him coming back

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to take up the mantle Captain America period may not

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be the case. In my kind of hunch and inkling

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is that if he comes back, he will be another

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villain in working tandem with Robert Nney Junior's Doom or

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competitively or something like that. I think he'll be another

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different character than what we're expecting him, I guess to

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be like.

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Speaker 2: That hero you're thank you til you reminded me of

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where I was going of. I feel like his return

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will be something similar to to what Downey's kind of

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situation is. And whether that be this is just an

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evil version of Tony Stark or like a like a

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variant or something, or a completely completely different character in

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and of itself. I think that both of them will

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kind of be the same in that sense. And I

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think because we already have RDJ back, you know, in

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like the doctor Doom role, I think I feel like

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it would be the variant variety. And I think the

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Chris Evans appearance would be the exact same. So yeah,

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I guess it could be like a It could be

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a classic Marvel mind control situation, like they could bring

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him back as cap, but then I also have him

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as a villain via like a mind control thing, because

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I don't know, I feel like it would be hard

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to buy, Like it makes this this turn like if

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we're going town on the road, that Doctor Doom in

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this universe or the one that we're getting here is

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like a variant of Tony Stark and it's like an

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alternate time. I like that that makes more sense. We have,

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like we've seen the pieces of the puzzle that could

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lead to that. But I feel like with Captain America

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that might be I don't know, might be jumping the

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shark a little bit in terms of like believability for

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what we've seen for the character. They could they could

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make it work, but I think like mind control is

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the easier, easier, and like that's kind of the cheaper

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way to do it too. Uh yeah, and that's just easier.

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I don't know that that could be. That could be

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an idea, but I kinda I don't know. Do you

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guys have any ideas for like a villain that he

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could play. I feel like we've already burned through so

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many in the MC it's hard to think of one

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that we haven't seen yet that would also like maybe

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not be the next huge phase fase phase based one,

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because like Doctor Doom could be around for a while

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potentially if they want to do that, right, And I don't

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know if they'd want to sign up like both of

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those two to come back from multiple projects, Like I

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feel like Evans might be more of a one and done. Yeah,

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one hundred percent. I think it was like crazy enough

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to just think of, Okay, Robert Downey Junior is coming back,

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but he's also not just like a one off villain,

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like he's Doctor Doom, like one of the biggest baddies

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in the in the Marvel universe. So I think that

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was just crazy to Pallette. And then now we're, you know,

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talking about Chris Evans returning, and I just think it's

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even crazier to have both of them back for a

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multiproject deals. So maybe that makes me think that it

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will be something more one and doney, And in terms

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of who that could be, I don't know. I'm pretty

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I'm pretty just flat on like my villain knowledge in

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terms of kind of who's coming up on like let's

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say Fantastic four Villains or like just just the next

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kind of phase of Marvel, Like what is our new

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character is going to be facing And you know, like,

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of course that's sources and stems from comic books sometimes

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most of the time at least, and I fortunately just

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don't have a lot of names to throw out there.

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I kind of hope it's someone just really wild and crazy,

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almost like how Will Polter's like Adam Warlock appearance where

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he's just all gold. Like. I want to see like

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a really different style of Chris Evans because of course,

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like even when I see him in things now, I'm

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00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,119
just like, yeah, it's cap like that's America's ass, Like

473
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:20,319
when I see him on things, I would love, especially

474
00:23:20,319 --> 00:23:22,799
because we have Robert don Juer back with the well

475
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,960
funny enoughf it's a metal suit. It's a different metal suit,

476
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,000
I guess anymore in the Marvel cinematic units. But I

477
00:23:28,279 --> 00:23:32,240
really really want just a wild costume and an appearance

478
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,680
for this Chris Evans' character, whoever that might be. I

479
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,599
guess we're kind of theorizing there like what it would

480
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,400
look like. But do you guys want this? Does this

481
00:23:40,559 --> 00:23:43,200
like excite you? Because I feel like when when Doom happened,

482
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,519
we were all, well, Taylor, I kind of forget how

483
00:23:45,519 --> 00:23:47,039
you wrecked. But I think the rest of us like, yeah,

484
00:23:47,079 --> 00:23:49,759
we don't really want this, don't love this root that

485
00:23:49,759 --> 00:23:51,680
they're going. But like as the months have gone on,

486
00:23:51,759 --> 00:23:53,680
I feel like we're just like more used to it now.

487
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,680
It's like, yeah, I guess it's gonna happen. I feel

488
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,599
like I'm less negative on it, like I'm more I

489
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,480
guess it's just sunk in at this point. So I

490
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,000
don't know, for whatever reason, I don't feel as adverse

491
00:24:04,039 --> 00:24:06,880
to this, like, of course this is a non official

492
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,000
confirmation he's not out there on the comic on stage,

493
00:24:09,039 --> 00:24:11,880
but I don't know, it feels I guess I'm not

494
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,880
just not as surprised anymore that they would be doing

495
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,400
something like this, And I don't know, there's just room

496
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,680
for it to be a lot of fun. I don't so, Yeah,

497
00:24:20,039 --> 00:24:21,960
for some reason, I'm not I'm I don't have that

498
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:23,839
sour taste of mind mouth like I did when they

499
00:24:23,839 --> 00:24:26,079
had the Doom thing announced, even though there was some

500
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:26,599
hype to.

501
00:24:26,559 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 1: That, right, Yeah, I'm not feeling negative with this. I mean,

502
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,000
I can't even remember what I thought about with the

503
00:24:34,039 --> 00:24:36,759
Doom thing. I'll have to go back and revisit.

504
00:24:36,319 --> 00:24:37,799
Speaker 3: My dreamy.

505
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,079
Speaker 2: Though with this, I don't know.

506
00:24:42,079 --> 00:24:44,559
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of exciting. I'm kind of gaming

507
00:24:44,559 --> 00:24:46,599
forth to see what kind of surprise they're cooking up with.

508
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:48,799
And that's coming after the fact too that we had

509
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,720
him pop up in Deadpool and overe and I really

510
00:24:50,759 --> 00:24:53,519
did enjoy that appearance of him, seeing him back on

511
00:24:53,559 --> 00:24:57,880
the big screen, So getting him back with Robert Tanney Junior,

512
00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,880
I think that's exciting and I think maybe it might

513
00:25:00,319 --> 00:25:03,720
make people a little bit more positive in the reception

514
00:25:03,759 --> 00:25:05,640
of having Robertdentiy Junior back. Like you were talking, you

515
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,680
guys are talking about just like that poster, you could

516
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:08,680
have both their faces on there.

517
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:09,519
Speaker 3: People are like, oh.

518
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 1: My god, this is great, and what better place to

519
00:25:11,519 --> 00:25:13,160
do it than than Avengers movie.

520
00:25:13,279 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 2: Right, So it's gonna be like the exact same poster

521
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,880
for Civil War. It's just Robert Downey Junior facing down

522
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,519
Chris Evan's gonna be like the exact same maybe looking

523
00:25:22,559 --> 00:25:26,880
at each other. They're like both looking at it'd be

524
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,519
funny to compare the two, But no, I didn't. I

525
00:25:29,559 --> 00:25:32,240
think you like nailed it because I was very much

526
00:25:32,759 --> 00:25:35,160
like how you were saying, like, I don't know, put

527
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,519
off by the Robert Doney Junior news coming back, but

528
00:25:38,039 --> 00:25:40,680
maybe just time has gone on and just knowing that

529
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:45,279
we're gonna be recycling these actors that kind of wore

530
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,759
them out rush more you know, you live long enough

531
00:25:47,799 --> 00:25:50,799
to see yourself become the villain or yeah, more or

532
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,319
less the quote from Dark Die the hero long enough

533
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,079
sometimes both, I guess in the terms of these guys, right,

534
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:03,400
But yeah, I was very very different, I think on

535
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,039
my reception to seeing this news. And I think it's

536
00:26:06,079 --> 00:26:08,720
also just wow, we got Downy back. Let's get Chris

537
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,640
Evans in there, so that's a nice pairing, or maybe

538
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,279
just I don't know, just them going at each other,

539
00:26:16,319 --> 00:26:19,599
like I'm just maybe curious as to what's gonna happen there,

540
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:24,240
And I think it's also just, yeah, just just giddy

541
00:26:24,319 --> 00:26:27,079
over the idea of getting like some of these iconic

542
00:26:27,319 --> 00:26:30,319
characters back and maybe not in the same shoes. Well,

543
00:26:30,319 --> 00:26:32,720
in the case of Downey, it's definitely confirmed. It's it's

544
00:26:32,759 --> 00:26:37,079
not that, but yeah, just for whatever reason, I'm more

545
00:26:37,319 --> 00:26:39,880
more open to it now. And we'll see if there's

546
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,000
another big announcement, like you know coming up of just

547
00:26:43,039 --> 00:26:47,799
another character that's recycled, you know, waiting for the Elizabeth Olsen,

548
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,880
I guess confirmation that she's coming back. I'm always gonna

549
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,319
be just those two in her as a team. Yeah,

550
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,319
so so random, but they're just you know, going for

551
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,200
like the big numbers. I guess one thing with this

552
00:26:58,319 --> 00:27:02,799
is like if it is them being villains working together

553
00:27:04,039 --> 00:27:05,559
or I guess there's two sides of that one. They

554
00:27:05,559 --> 00:27:07,720
could both be villains that just aren't working together, like

555
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,240
just both in the world and have like separate goals

556
00:27:10,279 --> 00:27:13,680
that are both against our heroes. I really, I guess

557
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,519
I wouldn't want them to be against each other. I

558
00:27:15,559 --> 00:27:16,880
just feel like we've seen a lot of that and

559
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,039
I wouldn't. I feel like we've built up so much potentially,

560
00:27:20,079 --> 00:27:21,759
I we don't even know who our current Avengers team is,

561
00:27:21,799 --> 00:27:24,839
but we've done so much work since endgame, tons of

562
00:27:24,839 --> 00:27:26,640
projects have come out, and I feel like I want

563
00:27:26,799 --> 00:27:28,519
those people to shine to some extent, and I don't.

564
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,079
I guess I wouldn't really want the core conflict of

565
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,000
the movie to be, oh, okay, Evans and Downey are

566
00:27:35,079 --> 00:27:37,799
going at it again, or like a villain thing where

567
00:27:37,799 --> 00:27:41,440
they're working together, but then like inevitably they break up,

568
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,279
and then Evans comes works for the good guys and

569
00:27:43,279 --> 00:27:45,319
it helps take down Doom. Then like I feel like

570
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,559
I would really not want that, want to just feel

571
00:27:47,599 --> 00:27:50,839
like rechredding the same old ground, and then it's also

572
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,680
just kind of boring and feels kind of like the

573
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,720
easy solution. I think it would be really fun if

574
00:27:54,759 --> 00:27:57,279
they were both villains and they were just like best

575
00:27:57,279 --> 00:28:00,960
friends and we they're not, you know, disagreeing. Maybe they

576
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,839
have little disagreements with each other, but like just being

577
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,559
really buddy buddy with each other and not always like Okay, fine,

578
00:28:06,559 --> 00:28:08,799
I'll work with you, but like I really don't want to.

579
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,079
And the way in like Endgame or Infinity War, even

580
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,319
when they're just really reluctant to work with each other,

581
00:28:15,319 --> 00:28:16,920
and that's a really hard moment to build up to. Like,

582
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,559
I don't want any of that friction. If they're gonna

583
00:28:18,559 --> 00:28:20,160
be villains together, I want them to just be like

584
00:28:20,759 --> 00:28:23,200
just chewing the scenery together and having a lot of

585
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,519
fun with it. So hopefully that's the route we go,

586
00:28:25,559 --> 00:28:27,599
because I still think there's so many other characters that

587
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,119
deserve some spotlight, and like they've already got tons and

588
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,519
tons of spotlight. We don't need to need to go

589
00:28:32,559 --> 00:28:34,720
back there. I feel like with down being doing what's

590
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,519
already gonna happen, he's already gonna have a ton of

591
00:28:36,559 --> 00:28:40,200
screen time. He's gonna be like the next Thanos, right. Potentially,

592
00:28:40,319 --> 00:28:42,119
maybe not to that same extent in terms of how

593
00:28:42,119 --> 00:28:45,440
many projects they'll be in, but yeah, that's that's I

594
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,839
guess one one fear I have, do you guys have?

595
00:28:48,359 --> 00:28:51,039
Like you know, if the dominoes keep just falling and

596
00:28:51,039 --> 00:28:53,720
we keep getting more and more people coming back is

597
00:28:53,799 --> 00:28:55,839
one of the things maybe they're potentially trying to gear

598
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,359
up to do, is like we're bringing back the original

599
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,039
Venders team, but like they're all playing evil characters like

600
00:29:02,079 --> 00:29:05,240
Widow she's obviously gone now too, Like would she come

601
00:29:05,279 --> 00:29:08,559
back as another villain character? And I don't know what

602
00:29:08,599 --> 00:29:11,039
you'd do with like, Okay, Hawkeye and Hulker and Thor

603
00:29:11,119 --> 00:29:13,079
all bumping around still, I don't know how you would

604
00:29:13,599 --> 00:29:15,519
have like other than like maybe I guess all those

605
00:29:15,599 --> 00:29:18,319
characters have a reason for not being in the current fight,

606
00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:21,640
yeah against doom, depending on the situation. You know, Hawkeye's retired,

607
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:23,960
I don't know, he's always around. I guess that's the

608
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:25,920
one that's hardest to explain. Thor could be off in

609
00:29:26,039 --> 00:29:28,319
some other planet somewhere. But like then you can bring

610
00:29:28,359 --> 00:29:30,799
those actors back. That might be a little awkward and

611
00:29:30,839 --> 00:29:33,119
weird if those characters are just like around, irrelevant. But

612
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,240
even to your point earlier, Kirkland, like Captain America, is

613
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,359
still alive. He's still kicking around. He's hanging out, just

614
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,839
dancing all day long. So I don't know, do you guys,

615
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,200
Do you guys see like a Scar Joe announcement being

616
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,400
the next thing? Do you think they'd go that route

617
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,759
and do like the original Six are back, but they're

618
00:29:48,799 --> 00:29:51,680
bad this time they're the City of Six. This time

619
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,880
it's a wild like pitch. I I like that, honestly,

620
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,480
I make money would be pretty juice. Yeah, I love

621
00:29:59,559 --> 00:30:03,359
the but he would make money. I maybe I'm just

622
00:30:03,799 --> 00:30:06,799
also appeal to the you know, fallen hero type of

623
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:11,440
archetype of just like yeah, whether it's someone like Anakin

624
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,599
like going to the dark side, or just other versions

625
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,839
of that. I feel like that always interests me. I

626
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,680
feel like that announcement would just be the most shocking

627
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,279
because just kind of how her adventure, for lack of

628
00:30:22,279 --> 00:30:24,680
a better term, i'll call it with the MCU and

629
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,559
Marvel and Disney specifically kind of just ended right with

630
00:30:28,519 --> 00:30:31,759
just all the like I'm pretty like, you don't have

631
00:30:31,799 --> 00:30:33,680
to remind me, but wasn't she like suing Disney over

632
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,400
like the release of Black Widow because it was supposed

633
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,960
to be a good point and then good point that

634
00:30:38,039 --> 00:30:40,319
was post end game. Yeah, yeah, it was just it

635
00:30:40,359 --> 00:30:42,839
was a she got her money, so maybe she's like

636
00:30:43,119 --> 00:30:46,359
chilling now she's happy and you know, money talks like

637
00:30:46,599 --> 00:30:49,799
if they want to. I'm sure she would forget that

638
00:30:49,839 --> 00:30:53,279
whole debacle if the number is high enough, and so yeah,

639
00:30:53,359 --> 00:30:55,440
that one would be very surprising, more so than the

640
00:30:55,519 --> 00:30:57,960
Chris Evans one. I think. I feel like it's always

641
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,119
the thing too with ever since the downynouncement, it's like, okay, well,

642
00:31:01,119 --> 00:31:03,759
it just seems like Chris Evans is like somewhat inevitable

643
00:31:03,759 --> 00:31:06,000
because he is still around, and of course he appeared

644
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,599
in Deadpool, so it seemed like his tie was already

645
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,960
really really close, but something like Scarjal for me is

646
00:31:11,039 --> 00:31:16,519
just it feels like a distant possibility. Especially too, like

647
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,960
all those you know, some of the Captain America movies,

648
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,359
Avengers movies, all of those were Russo brothers, and after

649
00:31:23,759 --> 00:31:25,960
the Russo brothers pieced out after Endgame and made their

650
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,400
other stuff, Chris Evans appeared in what two of those movies,

651
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,880
so I think at least at least one, but I

652
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,680
think two, right, So obviously there's that connection there was

653
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,519
really strong. They've worked together a lot, and so I

654
00:31:35,559 --> 00:31:38,839
think this is a lot less surprising now knowing that

655
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,079
the Russo brothers are in fact back and they're the

656
00:31:41,119 --> 00:31:46,400
ones doing this duology of movies here at least, because yeah,

657
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,240
that's just like a primed actor to bring back for

658
00:31:49,279 --> 00:31:52,400
that kind of thing. So that also, I think leads

659
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,400
to that make a lot more sense.

660
00:31:57,759 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: I like what you said, they're dying about these people

661
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,440
coming back and kind of shafting new up and coming

662
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,400
actors and actresses that are trying to make their mark

663
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,279
here and in the MCU and give their They're all

664
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,519
into these new roles and these new heroes that we've had.

665
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,599
Speaker 2: And I know Tam Wilson gets like three minutes of

666
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,400
screen time or something stupid like that.

667
00:32:18,119 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Harrison Ford, like he needs more screen time.

668
00:32:21,759 --> 00:32:25,039
Speaker 1: It's definitely been a little bit tricky with Disney because

669
00:32:25,039 --> 00:32:26,519
you have all these new heroes and not all of

670
00:32:26,599 --> 00:32:29,200
them have really taken off with their movies and in particular,

671
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,920
and so I think that that definitely leaves us our

672
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,279
taste and these business suits and these boardrooms like, well,

673
00:32:35,319 --> 00:32:37,000
we need to play it safe, we need to make money,

674
00:32:37,039 --> 00:32:39,440
Like what makes money. Well, let's bring back the face

675
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:45,200
of Marvel Captain America, Steve Rogers. But yeah, I just

676
00:32:45,279 --> 00:32:48,920
think that what you said is pretty It's pretty unfortunate

677
00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:51,279
if they keep on progressing down that route.

678
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,799
Speaker 3: But I digress. Was there anything else you guys want

679
00:32:53,839 --> 00:32:54,759
to add on this topic?

680
00:32:56,279 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. I get when do you

681
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,240
guys think we would get more info on this all

682
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:01,759
the way in the summer with comic Con or do

683
00:33:01,759 --> 00:33:04,920
you think they would even if these rumors are circling,

684
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,599
would they just confirm it earlier just to get it

685
00:33:06,599 --> 00:33:09,759
out of the way or what I I would imagine

686
00:33:09,839 --> 00:33:12,359
that something like this, if it's already kind of leaking

687
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,400
out through the cracks and crevices. I think we're gonna

688
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,079
be getting something a little bit more solid before Comic Con.

689
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,519
Comic Con do like the big suit reveal, you know,

690
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,079
and like the similar way that it went with Downey

691
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,920
all the Yeah, they already got their big moment with Downey.

692
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,880
Like the fact that that didn't really leak at all. Right,

693
00:33:30,039 --> 00:33:33,319
that was pretty crazy. Yeah that's true.

694
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:41,079
Speaker 1: Cool. So our next lovely topic, I can pull it

695
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,759
up here. I got like multiple pages here with different topics.

696
00:33:45,119 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 2: Nice.

697
00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: Oh.

698
00:33:46,759 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 2: Also, the source was the Wire and it was no wrong,

699
00:33:51,839 --> 00:33:54,319
that's the show. The source is the Wrap dot com.

700
00:33:54,319 --> 00:33:57,200
It was an exclusive, I believe you. I feel like

701
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,920
there is a something called the Hollywood Wire or something

702
00:34:00,079 --> 00:34:03,200
like that. It was on It was on the wire

703
00:34:03,319 --> 00:34:05,599
at the Wrap. Gotcha. Yeah, there you go.

704
00:34:07,119 --> 00:34:12,159
Speaker 1: So sticking into the whole Marvel theme right now, we're

705
00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:15,320
gonna be looking at uh taking a first ad break,

706
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:15,639
and we'll.

707
00:34:15,559 --> 00:34:16,079
Speaker 3: Be right back.

708
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 2: Okay, and we're back.

709
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: So on that note, the Sony verse is absolutely falling apart.

710
00:34:27,559 --> 00:34:30,679
Speaker 3: It is not good. God, it is crumbling.

711
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 2: Speaking of cracks. Yeah, that's god.

712
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,199
Speaker 3: There. Yeah, their whole house is just collapsing. It's it's horrible.

713
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: So we're gonna we're just gonna talk about how this

714
00:34:40,119 --> 00:34:44,159
universe is pretty much dead after Craven. And I've seen

715
00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:50,360
some memes about like Venom four, Sinister six, different things

716
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,360
like that, potential projects that I think could have had

717
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,159
a lot of potential. Other people talking about how like

718
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,679
Null from Venom three, like there's some stuff that they

719
00:34:57,679 --> 00:35:00,719
could have done with him, But who knows what they're

720
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,400
gonna do with that character. If I don't know what

721
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,840
I'm doning, Marvel's even gonna the MCU is going.

722
00:35:05,639 --> 00:35:07,159
Speaker 3: To tap into this at all.

723
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: I I don't know what was going on in the

724
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,719
backboard rooms and how they got Tom Hardy's and I'm

725
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,199
thrown in there, and how those contracts work. But I

726
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,280
don't think that that's necessarily a five ye kind of decision.

727
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,840
I feel like that was just and we've talked about

728
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,639
all that, so yeah, it's I digress. But the fact

729
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,360
though that they're just kind of like giving up, Like

730
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,960
what happens after the after this, like after Craven comes out,

731
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,360
Craven's gonna bomb and then do they just sit on

732
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,039
on their ips? Do they sell them? What do you

733
00:35:38,079 --> 00:35:38,679
guys think?

734
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,679
Speaker 2: I mean, I think the I think they just licensed

735
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,239
them out to MCU, probably for a while, and then

736
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,239
I mean, I don't know, I forget what the year

737
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,840
number is where you like you have to make a

738
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,960
movie every however many years, or like you just lose

739
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,360
the ips something like that, Right, I feel like that,

740
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,360
you know, they would they would keep doing that, but

741
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,679
presumably they'll just like hang on to this unless they

742
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,559
I mean, it seems like money wise, they've had a

743
00:36:01,599 --> 00:36:03,519
lot of issues recently, and like, I don't know, maybe

744
00:36:03,519 --> 00:36:05,880
they would look to sell. They could make a lot

745
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,239
of money off selling Spider Man as a character. But

746
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,239
I think, like, I don't know, just license. It's easier.

747
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:12,880
You get a chunk of money, you don't have to

748
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,840
do anything at all, You just sit there. That seems

749
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,199
like the way to go. But yeah, part of this,

750
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,440
it seems like Craven is gonna be the last last

751
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,880
movie in this universe. And there's even like another I

752
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,000
saw a posted in our in the GV discord that

753
00:36:24,079 --> 00:36:27,039
was just like, uh, it turns out Craven's actually doing

754
00:36:27,079 --> 00:36:29,480
worse than the initial tracking in terms of like where

755
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,880
it looks like it's gonna do on opening weekend, like

756
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:36,280
Madam Web Levels, which is or even less than Madame

757
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,519
Web levels I think the articles said, which is, yeah,

758
00:36:39,079 --> 00:36:41,360
maybe think back to our predictions. I'm pretty sure the

759
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,559
number I gave was like eleven or something. It was

760
00:36:43,599 --> 00:36:46,480
it was pretty pretty very low. Yeah, kind of near

761
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,760
where it's projecting. Yeah, you know, not too crazy off

762
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:57,119
the Yeah crazy I was thinking about Madam Web now

763
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:01,039
my gosh, yeah no, I I I feel like it's

764
00:37:01,079 --> 00:37:03,760
like business suicide if they ever wanted to sell Spidey,

765
00:37:04,199 --> 00:37:06,239
Like it just seems like that is like an infinite

766
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:10,800
money glitch just having that property. So I definitely would

767
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,800
agree in just them licensing off like that. That seems

768
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,800
like the I don't know, just like an easy way

769
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:23,360
to stay afloat, and especially I feel like trusting it

770
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,519
out to like MCU and stuff. Say what you will,

771
00:37:27,559 --> 00:37:29,519
but like the quality of the movies, they at least

772
00:37:29,559 --> 00:37:31,800
know how to make money off of them, whether that's

773
00:37:32,159 --> 00:37:35,639
through merch and dice or what they just the attractions

774
00:37:35,639 --> 00:37:37,599
and stuff that they do at like Disneyland and stuff, now,

775
00:37:37,639 --> 00:37:40,360
like that's a whole thing of itself just going on,

776
00:37:40,519 --> 00:37:44,159
Like Spidey is so massive in Disneyland. So I just

777
00:37:44,159 --> 00:37:47,800
feel like, yeah, if they're able to get more appearances

778
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:52,000
with those types of characters in just other Marvel movies,

779
00:37:52,039 --> 00:37:54,159
and that would be under of course, like the Disney manners.

780
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,280
So I would say that would probably be the most

781
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:02,519
likely outcome going forward, eventually making their their their attempts

782
00:38:02,599 --> 00:38:06,920
at rebirthing this sure at some point, but hopefully you know,

783
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,559
we have some time. Yeah, I mean, I feel like

784
00:38:09,679 --> 00:38:12,880
the strategy of just like keep pumping out animated movies

785
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,119
make your next Spider Verses. I know, Like I think

786
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:17,199
it's like a movie did quite well at the box office.

787
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,880
I think it was also very expensive. Uh so who

788
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,360
knows how we're like the profit actually was on it.

789
00:38:22,679 --> 00:38:24,719
But if they can like reel that in and like

790
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,039
treat the artists right and just like keep making those cool,

791
00:38:28,199 --> 00:38:30,519
you're you're making profit. Make hopefully one of those every

792
00:38:30,519 --> 00:38:32,039
like two or three years, Like you don't have to

793
00:38:32,079 --> 00:38:34,199
go to the length of Spider Verse, just do some

794
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,920
other animated stuff, keep cranking that stuff out, and then

795
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,000
just like license out the character to like appear at

796
00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:42,639
MCU stuff, because yeah, if you're not doing your on

797
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,519
like live action movies, and you're gonna have like the

798
00:38:44,519 --> 00:38:46,679
crossover stuff, which I feel like it is half the

799
00:38:46,679 --> 00:38:48,239
reason a lot of people see these movies is like

800
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,320
the chance that maybe a Spider Man or another character

801
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,559
will pop up. Then it's like, oh no, it's just

802
00:38:52,679 --> 00:38:55,079
Craving in his own movie and Rhino and then there's

803
00:38:55,119 --> 00:38:58,159
no one else, which happens sometimes too. But yeah, I

804
00:38:58,159 --> 00:38:59,880
feel like that's that's the row crank of the animated

805
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:04,159
license of the rest to MCU and just infinite money glitch.

806
00:39:04,159 --> 00:39:06,880
As kirklm said, Yeah, I feel like the timing of

807
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,760
like just getting that of like they're not moving forward

808
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:14,400
after is it after Craven? I guess, yeah, that's that's

809
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,320
the last one. That's that's that's talked about. I feel

810
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,800
like it's also just like showcasing the lack of faith

811
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,880
that they have in Craven, and like it also just

812
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,440
for a general audience member if they're like thinking about

813
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,159
going to see Craven but then they see this news,

814
00:39:27,159 --> 00:39:28,639
it's like why, like why would I go see this

815
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,400
movie now? Right? Unless I was like really interested in

816
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,559
the trailer and like specifically what this is them just

817
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,239
the idea of like oh yeah, this this looks like

818
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,760
it might be a new character moving forward, and in

819
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:45,679
this it's a weird word case study I'm kind of

820
00:39:45,679 --> 00:39:48,159
setting up of like someone that's really invested in the

821
00:39:48,159 --> 00:39:51,679
Sony universe. But I mean anyone who's invested would also

822
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,960
know that, like there's nothing announced after Craven like it.

823
00:39:55,639 --> 00:39:57,239
I think that might be like an excitement of like, oh,

824
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,119
what's the post credit going to be? But I feel

825
00:39:59,159 --> 00:40:01,440
like it's probably not going to be anything because they

826
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:06,400
don't have anything to go to. They're just they're done totally.

827
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:08,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just weird.

828
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,119
Speaker 1: Back in the day, I remember when they made these announcements,

829
00:40:11,119 --> 00:40:14,960
and I'm confident that they got a lot of flak

830
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,199
back then because we weren't impressed by it, and we

831
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,400
still aren't impressed by it. But they went ahead and

832
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,440
they stuck to their guns and they put out all

833
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,519
these different projects, and now.

834
00:40:23,519 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 3: They have to reap what they sew. I guess is

835
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:27,760
the term I would use for this.

836
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 2: So it's unfortunate bakers boxes and find a new job.

837
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 3: I find.

838
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 2: Right, they should have ended on Venom Last Dance. Yeah,

839
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,960
that would have been a much better I mean, not

840
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,920
that it like closes out the universe in any sort

841
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,280
of coherent way, but just the title of it, the

842
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,639
idea it being the trilogy, it being the most the

843
00:40:46,679 --> 00:40:49,679
only successful of the live action stuff. Just close it

844
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,199
out with that. That would have been That would have

845
00:40:52,199 --> 00:40:53,559
been the way to do it, I think.

846
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: Especially because Craven feels like it's kickstarting something with the story,

847
00:40:57,519 --> 00:41:00,199
like a new adventure right out.

848
00:41:00,519 --> 00:41:03,159
Speaker 2: You know, we'll see after the review. But maybe they

849
00:41:03,159 --> 00:41:04,960
should have just backgrilled this one.

850
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:09,199
Speaker 3: And just tax Oh wow, tax right off.

851
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 2: Don't let any project a like fucking twelve million dollars

852
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,280
and they're already closing down their doors in the whole

853
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,440
Sony universe. Hopefully it had a small baby budget. Like

854
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,760
I feel like Aaron Taylor Johnson is like your main man.

855
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,880
I don't know if he's like, you know, he's not

856
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,880
asking for Robert Downey Bucks to know in a movie,

857
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:31,199
right maybe when they when they rebirth the Sony universe. Yeah,

858
00:41:31,199 --> 00:41:32,639
and that they want to they want to get him

859
00:41:32,639 --> 00:41:33,639
back as a different character.

860
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: I think the budget of this made it one hundred

861
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,360
and ten million, make him more expensive than Sony's other

862
00:41:39,599 --> 00:41:40,519
non venom.

863
00:41:40,519 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 2: How when I'm seeing this trailer, I just see a

864
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:45,639
guy jumping around.

865
00:41:45,679 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 3: I don't know, rhino guys at least a few million

866
00:41:48,519 --> 00:41:48,920
right there.

867
00:41:49,159 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. True, that's an insane budget. That's like more than

868
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:57,039
Madame Webb made at all. I think so I all

869
00:41:57,039 --> 00:42:00,360
think back to Godzilla minus we you know, when what

870
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:04,440
was the like ten million dollar budget, crazy phenomenal film.

871
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,519
Uh yeah, just insane. I don't let any of this

872
00:42:07,559 --> 00:42:09,920
stop you guys from listening to our review on Thursday.

873
00:42:10,039 --> 00:42:17,400
It's gonna be the finale of Nobody. Go see this. Yeah,

874
00:42:17,519 --> 00:42:19,280
just watch your review. Don't watch the movie. We'll let

875
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,320
you know it's presumably not worth watching.

876
00:42:23,199 --> 00:42:25,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad to see that this isn't gonna like

877
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,840
hurt Aaron Taylor Johnson's career, because we're gonna talk about

878
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,599
another project he's in later.

879
00:42:30,119 --> 00:42:31,679
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So, I.

880
00:42:31,599 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: Mean, I love I love that actor. He's he's fantastic

881
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,079
and everything he does. I think he's gonna really bring

882
00:42:36,079 --> 00:42:36,800
it in this role.

883
00:42:37,119 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 3: I really do. But i'd have to I would love

884
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,800
to be a fly on the wall for that interview.

885
00:42:42,599 --> 00:42:44,760
Speaker 1: Because you know, you got a guy, you got his

886
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,480
agent coming up to Aaron and like, hey, Aaron ATJ

887
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,519
I got a roll for you in another Superhoe project.

888
00:42:51,559 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 3: Oh my back in Marvel, Like.

889
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,679
Speaker 1: Well, go kind of you're in the Sony Marvel movie

890
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,159
and guess what, they're not doing any more projects after this.

891
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 3: It's dead. So it's a would have told that.

892
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 2: There's no way would have told or you.

893
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,599
Speaker 1: Don't have to worry about like a five movie contract

894
00:43:05,679 --> 00:43:05,960
or anything.

895
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,559
Speaker 3: This is a clean cut cash deal, like just trying

896
00:43:08,599 --> 00:43:09,280
to sell it to them.

897
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 2: But it was like the who was it Sidney Sweeney?

898
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,239
That like didn't know that or I don't even know

899
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,239
if that was a rumor or not, if his speculations,

900
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,639
she didn't know it wasn't in the m c U.

901
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,400
I just remember that being discussed. Maybe it was the

902
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,400
same thing with A T. J. He thought he was

903
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,679
in the m CU, but I.

904
00:43:25,679 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 1: Think that would have been in the right. Yeah, he

905
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,639
has I think that was Sidney Sweeney. I think she

906
00:43:30,639 --> 00:43:34,440
she did talk about something somewhere similar to that s S

907
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:35,079
Pubs in the chat.

908
00:43:35,119 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 3: Didn't they re shoot a ton of this movies?

909
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: That's probably the budget If they're filming like an extra

910
00:43:39,039 --> 00:43:41,639
half movie on there, you don't want to see a.

911
00:43:41,639 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 2: Lot of reshoots. That's uh, that's a dangerous game would

912
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:46,679
have done. It's a.

913
00:43:48,679 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot a lot of reshoots there, but

914
00:43:53,039 --> 00:43:55,440
that's a topic for another day. Affect the budget though, Taylor,

915
00:43:55,519 --> 00:43:58,519
come on, the budget was boosted the budget, I think,

916
00:44:00,159 --> 00:44:00,599
save money.

917
00:44:00,599 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 2: But in.

918
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 1: Anything else you guys have or want to drop on

919
00:44:07,119 --> 00:44:10,000
Craven and the Sony Verse being dead.

920
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 2: I'm kinda I'm happy that I don't have to keep

921
00:44:14,039 --> 00:44:17,400
committee myself to these projects. You know, I feel like

922
00:44:17,599 --> 00:44:20,400
part of me gets a little bit interested. I'm not

923
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:24,639
gonna say hyped or hopeful for what's gonna be coming,

924
00:44:24,639 --> 00:44:28,119
but just just enticed, like, Okay, a Craven solo movie,

925
00:44:28,159 --> 00:44:31,280
Like it's been an interesting character in the Spider Man universe,

926
00:44:31,639 --> 00:44:35,920
like animated series, cartoons and stuff like that. How are

927
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,960
they gonna do it in a solo project? It's just

928
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,920
so funny to me, how Like the interest level usually

929
00:44:41,039 --> 00:44:44,199
just goes right down the closer we get to the project,

930
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,280
and like the more information we get, it's usually just

931
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,760
the initial idea of what it like, like Madam Webb,

932
00:44:49,199 --> 00:44:51,920
you know, like when Sydney Sweets, when Sidney Sweeney was

933
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,280
cast as Julia Carpenter, which they changed her name Julia Cornwall.

934
00:44:55,519 --> 00:44:57,440
When I first got that announcement, though, I'm like, man,

935
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,239
I was dreaming of this day, Like i think she's

936
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,280
perfect for that. And then of course here I am

937
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,599
now pretty much wishing I never even caught that. And uh,

938
00:45:05,199 --> 00:45:07,480
I don't like to have these thoughts about these movies.

939
00:45:07,559 --> 00:45:10,880
So let's take a break, Sony, and uh because this

940
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,880
podcasting thing, it's like a it's like a contract with

941
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,960
my soul. I have to watch these movies. I have

942
00:45:16,039 --> 00:45:19,199
to talk about them. I have to just go through

943
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,400
the motions. And uh, now I get a little break.

944
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,320
So thanks, Sony. Mm hmm, it's true.

945
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 3: Well said.

946
00:45:26,039 --> 00:45:27,559
Speaker 1: I hope that it doesn't like you guys are talking

947
00:45:27,559 --> 00:45:30,000
about other spin offs like you have your Miles moraless,

948
00:45:30,039 --> 00:45:31,199
like Spider Man's.

949
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't stop those, don't stop those. They can keep

950
00:45:34,159 --> 00:45:34,599
at those.

951
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: But I mean, I really don't need like an Ezekiel

952
00:45:37,039 --> 00:45:41,119
Simms Spider Guy dropped in a project, Like it's just

953
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,360
that's not the Spider Man I want.

954
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 3: I want a Spider Man, you know.

955
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,039
Speaker 1: And unfortunately it seems like Marvel mcu is the are

956
00:45:50,079 --> 00:45:52,519
the ones that are doing the actual Spider manning because

957
00:45:52,559 --> 00:45:54,519
I'm pretty sure, yeah, we got Spider Man four that's

958
00:45:54,559 --> 00:45:57,000
been cooking up and stuff. But again, topic for another day,

959
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:57,679
m hm.

960
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 3: So moving on from that. What do we have next,

961
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:09,159
ladies and gentlemen, We have some Harry Potter castings. Have

962
00:46:09,199 --> 00:46:10,400
you guys seen the latest on.

963
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 2: This gues couple names and faces pop in in about.

964
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: We got four like the four head honchos here right now.

965
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,480
We got Hagrid, we got Dumbledore, we got Snape and McGonagall.

966
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,000
So what do you guys want to start with?

967
00:46:27,039 --> 00:46:29,519
Speaker 3: Who want to who do want to talk about?

968
00:46:29,559 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 2: McGonagall McGonagall.

969
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 3: Ah.

970
00:46:33,039 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 2: For me, I saw a couple of these names. I

971
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:37,559
didn't like deep dive on all of them. I didn't

972
00:46:37,599 --> 00:46:39,559
see the McGonagall casting.

973
00:46:41,559 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 1: Uh you know what, I'm trying to find it in

974
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,760
this article too, because I did not see that as well.

975
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,639
Speaker 3: I saw the Snape, I saw the Hagrid, and I

976
00:46:47,679 --> 00:46:52,599
saw I got a name. I got a name for

977
00:46:53,119 --> 00:46:55,159
sh Sharon Morgan.

978
00:46:55,360 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, come on, I am unfamiamiliar with what else

979
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:02,920
she has been in.

980
00:47:03,079 --> 00:47:06,760
Speaker 3: So let's look at what her I am is full of.

981
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,159
Speaker 2: Because it's gonna be tough for me just seeing these faces,

982
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,239
because of course Harry Potter I've just seen a million

983
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,800
times and because I've never read the books, the faces

984
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:17,880
that I got on screen are just kind of who

985
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,079
I see these character ass So it's gonna be tough.

986
00:47:20,119 --> 00:47:22,320
You know the old Harry line, how dare you stand

987
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,639
where they stood? I feel like that might be hitting

988
00:47:24,679 --> 00:47:27,519
me a few times by seeing these faces, but I'm

989
00:47:27,519 --> 00:47:29,840
gonna do my best to not judge until I see it.

990
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,280
But I don't know. It's tough for me to see

991
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,719
this as McGonagall. Yeah, I think that across the board, Uh,

992
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,800
for me, what stands out is like, Wow, they're going

993
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:44,719
a lot younger than the original crew, professors, whoever else

994
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,840
that they had for for those movies back in the day.

995
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,679
And I'm part of that. I'm wondering is like, oh

996
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,000
is it because I watched those movies as a kid

997
00:47:52,039 --> 00:47:54,400
and they those people look like they were super old,

998
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,639
but now they aren't. But no, I mean, I think

999
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,599
across the board, like all the castings that we've seen

1000
00:47:59,599 --> 00:48:03,039
so far are, whether it's just speculation or not, is

1001
00:48:03,519 --> 00:48:06,480
like like at least ten to twenty years younger. And

1002
00:48:06,559 --> 00:48:09,880
especially for McGonagall, I don't know how old the actress

1003
00:48:10,039 --> 00:48:12,960
was in that original movie sixty seven, right, and this

1004
00:48:13,119 --> 00:48:17,519
actress looks like forty mid forty fifty four like that. Okay,

1005
00:48:17,559 --> 00:48:20,480
there go fifty four, but not a gray hair on

1006
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,920
that head of hers. So I don't really know anything

1007
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:25,639
about this actress that I've seen her in like a

1008
00:48:25,679 --> 00:48:27,599
couple things. I think the one thing that I have

1009
00:48:27,679 --> 00:48:30,800
seen her in is uh is Game Night. I forget

1010
00:48:31,039 --> 00:48:33,280
what her character's name in that fe like she's in

1011
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,079
that movie. So yeah, I don't know. It's it's interesting,

1012
00:48:36,159 --> 00:48:37,920
and some of these are a little bit more low

1013
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,199
key actors. But I also feel like, at least for

1014
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:41,440
me back in the day, like I feel like when

1015
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,119
I first watch Harry Potter, all the Professor characters, I

1016
00:48:44,159 --> 00:48:46,559
think I'd never seen them in any other movies in

1017
00:48:46,599 --> 00:48:48,199
my life, but I think they were all like fairly

1018
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,000
well established for their careers. A lot of them that

1019
00:48:50,079 --> 00:48:52,440
was their like breakout, our biggest role that they ended

1020
00:48:52,519 --> 00:48:55,320
up having, Right, But yeah, I don't know. I guess

1021
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,280
going for some more ununder lower key is maybe a

1022
00:48:58,280 --> 00:48:59,360
good way to go. And then some of these are

1023
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,599
not like bigger actors, but I don't know. This one

1024
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,159
seems like she seems more like a Trelawney or something

1025
00:49:05,159 --> 00:49:06,760
to me, Like I don't know if I see her

1026
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,039
as McGonagall. But at the same time, I think it's

1027
00:49:09,079 --> 00:49:11,679
a good route, not just to go younger. Maybe that's

1028
00:49:11,679 --> 00:49:13,679
a good route, like maybe producing a TV show is

1029
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,199
gonna take a lot longer, and so they want people

1030
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,840
who can age up a bit more. I don't know,

1031
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,000
in a bit of a better way perhaps, but yeah,

1032
00:49:22,079 --> 00:49:25,639
I don't know. I feel like they also do would

1033
00:49:25,679 --> 00:49:29,400
do well to differentiate themselves from those previous castings, because

1034
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,480
a lot of those are so iconic. I think McGonagall

1035
00:49:32,519 --> 00:49:33,960
you can get away with, but something like Snape, I

1036
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:35,440
think it's a great idea to go for like a

1037
00:49:35,599 --> 00:49:40,639
drastically different type of cast casting than what we had before,

1038
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,639
just because like that is such an iconic role, that

1039
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,280
is like an ingrained in so many these people, so

1040
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,599
many people's minds, and I think it's, yeah, it's good

1041
00:49:46,599 --> 00:49:48,840
to go for like a different route. So I'm okay

1042
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,440
with some of these, even if I don't see them

1043
00:49:50,519 --> 00:49:52,599
right away. I think that's maybe a good thing to

1044
00:49:52,679 --> 00:49:54,679
switch it up from like the status quo of what

1045
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,599
we've had before, because it wasn't really that long ago,

1046
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,480
Like the last movie ended in what like only twelve

1047
00:50:00,559 --> 00:50:02,440
or something like. It's not like this is a thirty

1048
00:50:02,559 --> 00:50:06,199
year old franchise or something. It's still fairly modern ish

1049
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:10,000
if you think about it. Yeah, No, absolutely, And I

1050
00:50:10,039 --> 00:50:12,559
think it's because of what I was saying earlier. How

1051
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,639
I never never read the books first, so I never

1052
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,039
was able to like kind of picture my own images

1053
00:50:18,079 --> 00:50:20,119
from what was described in the novels. I just got

1054
00:50:20,119 --> 00:50:22,559
what was given to me in the movies. It's always

1055
00:50:22,559 --> 00:50:24,760
going to be kind of hard for me to look

1056
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:26,719
past whoever they have. So I do agree with the

1057
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,239
sense that maybe they should really go in a different

1058
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:35,320
direction to Yeah, just just separate it, because if you

1059
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,119
don't want it to make it seem like they're trying

1060
00:50:37,159 --> 00:50:40,519
to recreate and capture like the image of the previous actors,

1061
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,320
because it just won't be the same, right, Like you

1062
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,639
can't just have a close to Alan Rickman casting for

1063
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,159
snap snape, like I think it would just be seen

1064
00:50:49,199 --> 00:50:52,199
as a bad attempt and then people will just be

1065
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:56,320
criticized in that regard. My favorite amongst all of these

1066
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,639
is it would be Brett Goldstein. Goldstein, however you say

1067
00:50:59,679 --> 00:51:02,880
his name the chap from ted Lasso for Hagrid, I

1068
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,519
just think he's such like a hairy bloke, and uh,

1069
00:51:06,039 --> 00:51:12,679
you know, Hagrid is not Harry Potter blow Harry h A,

1070
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,840
I r y and I don't know. I I think

1071
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,239
I just really really loved him from Ted Lasso. Of

1072
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:25,599
course he's Hercules now in four seconds, so for four seconds,

1073
00:51:25,639 --> 00:51:27,880
but he's still he's still there, he's still cooking. Maybe

1074
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,719
we'll be fighting Chris Evans, we'll see. But yeah, just

1075
00:51:32,159 --> 00:51:34,280
out of all of them, I think that's the one

1076
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,920
that really stands out, or maybe not stands out, it

1077
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:43,079
stands in the right direction for me with the casting. Yeah, yeah,

1078
00:51:43,079 --> 00:51:45,960
that one's That one's a that's a weird one because

1079
00:51:46,039 --> 00:51:48,000
as soon as I saw him, like, oh this makes

1080
00:51:48,039 --> 00:51:51,000
sense visually, I feel like I see it on him

1081
00:51:51,039 --> 00:51:53,440
and I can I think I can picture him with

1082
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,480
a huge head of hair and a beard, I don't know,

1083
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:57,960
like like a big bushy beard. Normally he has some

1084
00:51:58,199 --> 00:52:00,719
scruff going on there. But I think for me, part

1085
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,800
of it in you know, once again to my previous point,

1086
00:52:03,039 --> 00:52:04,960
good to go a different direction than what we had before.

1087
00:52:05,039 --> 00:52:07,719
No one's gonna match that earnestness that Robbie Coltrane had,

1088
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,639
right like, you want to go a different direction. I

1089
00:52:09,639 --> 00:52:12,079
think it's a good, good call, But I feel like

1090
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,519
you at least need Hagrid to be just a guy

1091
00:52:15,559 --> 00:52:19,440
that you just instantly love, very lighthearted, very funny. I

1092
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,480
think the voice is very important, and to me, Brett

1093
00:52:22,519 --> 00:52:27,079
has like just the deepest, grovelliest, like demon voice, and

1094
00:52:27,199 --> 00:52:29,360
like I've you know, I've only seen him in Ted

1095
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,440
and then recently in Shrinking season two, and like both shows,

1096
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,639
he plays just like a deeply depressed character and I

1097
00:52:35,679 --> 00:52:38,159
feel like, maybe that's just not the best type casting

1098
00:52:38,199 --> 00:52:40,960
for specifically what they want to do with Hagrid here,

1099
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,559
and maybe he's had some other performances where he is

1100
00:52:43,599 --> 00:52:46,440
more of a light hearted guy and he's smiling in more.

1101
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:48,880
So I need to see this one.

1102
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:50,280
Speaker 3: But I am.

1103
00:52:50,199 --> 00:52:53,039
Speaker 2: Excited to see like how he portrays this character because

1104
00:52:53,079 --> 00:52:55,559
I like, I like what the actor could bring to

1105
00:52:55,599 --> 00:52:57,320
the role. I think I just that one's gonna take

1106
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:58,559
some getting used to, for sure.

1107
00:52:59,039 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: To imagine if that's just their new approach to make

1108
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,480
it their their own thing, just the pressing.

1109
00:53:04,679 --> 00:53:06,320
Speaker 3: Like upset Hagrid just.

1110
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,519
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I feel like, you know, they they

1111
00:53:09,559 --> 00:53:12,400
probably do want to add more dimensions to all these characters.

1112
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:13,920
That's the point of doing a TV show. You have

1113
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:15,760
a lot more room to flesh them out, and I'm sure.

1114
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,079
I mean I feel like even at moments like there

1115
00:53:18,079 --> 00:53:21,440
are some like you know, when he loses a dragon

1116
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,599
and stuff whatever is going on there, right, there are

1117
00:53:23,679 --> 00:53:25,519
moments of sadness there. I feel like in the last

1118
00:53:25,519 --> 00:53:27,880
few movies we talked about this recently, like Hagrid just

1119
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,199
like goes away like barely in some of those last

1120
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,360
movies at all. And so I don't know, I think

1121
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:36,480
that it is good to have maybe more dynamic nature

1122
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,679
to like all these characters and explore these different sides

1123
00:53:38,679 --> 00:53:40,559
of it. So yeah, maybe they want to go with

1124
00:53:40,599 --> 00:53:43,119
a character who could like go to some lower places

1125
00:53:43,159 --> 00:53:45,079
at times. And I feel like, yeah, maybe Bret's a

1126
00:53:45,119 --> 00:53:47,320
great pick for someone to be able to do that.

1127
00:53:47,519 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 1: He does go to Askapan too briefly for Chamber of Secrets, right,

1128
00:53:51,599 --> 00:53:56,679
So I mean you could have someone just be super

1129
00:53:57,079 --> 00:53:59,039
upset about that. I mean, I don't know if he

1130
00:53:59,079 --> 00:54:01,440
faced off against any mentors that are just going after

1131
00:54:01,519 --> 00:54:03,280
him and ask Kaban, but I.

1132
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 2: Mean Kirk rewatched it four minutes ago, so I don't know,

1133
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:08,880
do you remember or are you saying that's in the

1134
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:10,039
book Taylor.

1135
00:54:10,159 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 1: Actually well, in Chamber of Secrets, I don't they arrest

1136
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,440
him in Chamber secrets. They rest him because he was

1137
00:54:15,639 --> 00:54:19,440
looked at as being the person who opened up the chamber.

1138
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:25,280
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, he does. Yeh, got slipped up. Just just

1139
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,280
in regards to Brett Goldstein, it's funny that you mentioned. Yeah,

1140
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:32,480
it's like super iconic gravelly voice. I haven't seen shrinking,

1141
00:54:32,519 --> 00:54:34,360
so I've only really seen him in ted Lasso and

1142
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,760
then the two minutes of well two seconds of Hercules,

1143
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,880
I guess. But he has a podcast it's called Films

1144
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,199
to be Buried With, I believe, And it's funny because

1145
00:54:43,199 --> 00:54:46,880
he sounds so differently like like in his normal Yeah.

1146
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:48,519
I don't think I've ever listened to an interview with

1147
00:54:48,599 --> 00:54:49,159
him or something.

1148
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1149
00:54:49,519 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 2: Maybe that's just what his character is doing in those shows.

1150
00:54:52,639 --> 00:54:55,159
And he's so good at like that type casting role.

1151
00:54:55,199 --> 00:54:57,679
So I'm not surprised that, like he's had more similar

1152
00:54:57,679 --> 00:55:00,880
types of roles because he is just so fantastic in

1153
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,320
ted Lasso as like the big, just tough, grizzly guy

1154
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,400
who's gone, you know, got a tough it's like he's

1155
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,400
always got his guard up, and then you know, as

1156
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:08,760
you go on with the show, you find he's just

1157
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,800
a big softy underneath, and I think that big softie

1158
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:15,000
underneath those moments that they have like in ted Lasso,

1159
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,000
I think I see again like a more of a

1160
00:55:18,039 --> 00:55:20,880
restrained Hagrid. But I definitely think he could he could

1161
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,679
hit that that caliber. And yeah, I would also just

1162
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:28,559
love for him to be seen as like a great

1163
00:55:28,559 --> 00:55:31,280
Hagrid because I think I don't want to just have

1164
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,039
him going in that truth, like in that box of

1165
00:55:34,119 --> 00:55:36,960
just being the big, tough, gravelly depressed character for his

1166
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,719
whole career. I don't think that'll be his whole career,

1167
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,679
but I yeah, I would just like to see more

1168
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,360
of range from that guy, because I do really like him.

1169
00:55:46,679 --> 00:55:49,119
And yeah, but it's just funny. It really threw me

1170
00:55:49,159 --> 00:55:51,239
off the first time I ever heard him on that podcast,

1171
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:58,480
because he just sounds so different from his character. But

1172
00:55:58,559 --> 00:56:00,960
maybe the Dementors get to them, like what you're a pitch.

1173
00:56:02,559 --> 00:56:06,199
Speaker 1: Well on the note you said caliber uh, Mark Rylance.

1174
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:10,159
Now he's apparently a prospect for a Dumbledore. I have

1175
00:56:10,199 --> 00:56:13,320
only seen him in one project, and that's the Ready

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00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:13,840
Player one.

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Speaker 2: Do you mean Mark Strong?

1178
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:24,760
Speaker 1: I don't think so, because Mark Ryland wrong Mark Rylance

1179
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:32,519
for Dumbledore. And then Mark Strong more recently emerged as

1180
00:56:32,519 --> 00:56:35,880
a prospect for the part, So there are two potential

1181
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:36,920
marks here they really like.

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00:56:38,159 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 2: To play, Okay, gotcha?

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00:56:41,159 --> 00:56:41,679
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.

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00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,199
Speaker 1: So I like the pick of Mark Rylance because I mean,

1185
00:56:45,199 --> 00:56:46,679
I've only seen him in the one role, and I

1186
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,639
haven't seen BFG. Maybe a little bits and pieces of it,

1187
00:56:49,679 --> 00:56:54,320
but uh no, I think that I don't know that's

1188
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:58,360
that's a character that it would be interesting to see

1189
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,840
how a new take would approach with that, because we've

1190
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,880
had two interpretations of it, and I think we've discussed

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00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:08,639
this in the reviews, where that original Dumbledore, the late

1192
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:12,320
Richard Harris. Seeing him in those roles where Dumbledore has

1193
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:14,239
to be like fighting Bouldeward and be a little bit

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00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,199
more mobile, I can't picture it. I feel like he

1195
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,159
just like would just kind of like hover and float

1196
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:21,559
because he just seems.

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00:57:21,239 --> 00:57:25,679
Speaker 3: So more old wizard wizard type.

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Speaker 1: But then you have the new Dumbledore in these order

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00:57:29,239 --> 00:57:32,280
the Phoenix movies and whatnot, he's just casting like fucking

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00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,599
not about aandabor but just counter spells and just going

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00:57:35,679 --> 00:57:37,000
crazy left, right and center.

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00:57:37,199 --> 00:57:39,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I feel like, still though both of those,

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00:57:40,119 --> 00:57:41,960
he's like an old geezer. You know, and I feel

1204
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,480
like this is like, okay, we're once again going younger,

1205
00:57:44,559 --> 00:57:46,840
which is across the board. But something I think about

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00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,000
all of these, it's hard for me to picture like

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00:57:49,039 --> 00:57:50,679
a younger Dumbledore. And I guess we did get that

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00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:54,400
with the hell There's we was called fantastic beasts, but

1209
00:57:54,679 --> 00:57:58,119
that's I don't even want to think about fantastic beasts.

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00:57:58,199 --> 00:57:59,960
I feel like maybe they're maybe they're trying to bridge

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00:58:00,159 --> 00:58:03,480
the bridge the gap there age wise, but yeah, I don't.

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00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:05,320
I feel like I don't have a ton of experience

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00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:07,559
with a of these guys. Mark Strong seems like a

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00:58:07,599 --> 00:58:09,840
decent pick. I don't know, I'm not too familiar with

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00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,519
the other guy, but I don't know. This is another

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00:58:13,519 --> 00:58:15,760
one where I I really it's gonna take some getting

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00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:17,519
used to For all these I need to see them.

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00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:19,840
I need to see what their outfits look like, you know, like,

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00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,719
is this dumble door gonna have a beard and long

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00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:24,639
hair and are they gonna make him have like white

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00:58:24,679 --> 00:58:26,480
hair and stuff and throw a hat on him, or

1222
00:58:26,519 --> 00:58:27,719
is he gonna be like a young guy with like

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00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:31,039
a shaved you know, a nice clean shaven look like.

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00:58:31,079 --> 00:58:33,639
I don't know what they're gonna do here. Especially in

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00:58:33,639 --> 00:58:35,800
the case of Mark Strong, I feel like I've never

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00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:37,719
seen that man with facial hair other than like a

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00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,679
small little mustache or something, so like to just picture

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00:58:40,719 --> 00:58:43,199
him with the big dumble door beard, especially like Sorcerer's

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00:58:43,199 --> 00:58:45,440
Stone level dumble door where it's like it seems like

1230
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,440
it's beard's to the floor, it's a big old pointy hat.

1231
00:58:48,519 --> 00:58:50,599
It's just it's a it's a weird image. It's almost

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00:58:50,719 --> 00:58:53,320
like it's almost like a cause play, right, like like

1233
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:59,599
it's a recreation of someone else's character. And then it's

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00:58:59,599 --> 00:59:01,719
funny with Mark Rylance. Yeah, when I looked him up,

1235
00:59:01,719 --> 00:59:04,159
I definitely remember him from any Player one and he's

1236
00:59:04,199 --> 00:59:06,400
just such a fucking weird character in that movie, so

1237
00:59:06,559 --> 00:59:09,159
to like have that similar behavior, but like in the

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00:59:09,199 --> 00:59:12,280
dumble Doore role, it's just it's a funny concept to me.

1239
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,760
But yeah, trying to judge it, I guess for until

1240
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,599
I actually see the project, but I will give my

1241
00:59:18,719 --> 00:59:21,360
thoughts on what I think initially.

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Speaker 1: As in the in the chat said Jude Law, which

1243
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:28,679
I totally forgot about Jude Law with Fantastic Beasts, and

1244
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:32,519
I really like Jude Law's interpretation, but h Mark Strong.

1245
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,519
I think you're right. Yeah, the facial hair thing. I

1246
00:59:35,599 --> 00:59:37,400
think the only time I've seen him with facial hair

1247
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,519
it would have been in the Penguin and that was

1248
00:59:39,599 --> 00:59:42,280
just a very brief scene. But he's a very good actor,

1249
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,880
but I can't picture him as a dumble Dore and

1250
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,400
I would definitely put the other Mark what.

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00:59:48,519 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 2: Level of facial air does he have? I can't remember.

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Speaker 3: It was kind of like just like a light like

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just yeah.

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Speaker 2: So he's always got like a very minor little mind,

1255
00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:59,559
but the hair on top of his head seems to

1256
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be very low so gone, yes, which I guess Dumbledore,

1257
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,920
you drop a hat on it, maybe we don't even notice.

1258
01:00:09,559 --> 01:00:11,760
But I do feel like also something Dumbledore like more

1259
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,639
from the books that doesn't necessarily transfer over to the

1260
01:00:14,679 --> 01:00:17,760
movies is like a whimsy to him and like a

1261
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:21,599
bit more silly and jovial at times, uh in kind

1262
01:00:21,639 --> 01:00:24,239
of like an old wizardy sort of type of way.

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And I feel like they went for much more serious

1264
01:00:27,199 --> 01:00:29,000
or a character who has a lot of wisdom and

1265
01:00:29,079 --> 01:00:31,440
kind of took away some of those elements to it.

1266
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,599
And I feel like Mark Strong, specifically not Rye Lance,

1267
01:00:34,679 --> 01:00:37,199
to be precise, here could be the guy who brings

1268
01:00:37,239 --> 01:00:40,400
in that kind of that kind of goofiness to it.

1269
01:00:40,519 --> 01:00:41,920
So that's something i'd like to see.

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01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 3: This is the the book Dumbledore.

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01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:49,159
Speaker 2: Like a con artist, right, so he's like he's a

1272
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,000
that's brown hair, that is a young that is a

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01:00:52,039 --> 01:00:55,400
youthful wizard right there. The other image because there's an

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01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:56,679
old double door right next to it.

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01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 1: I don't know about this one, but I know this

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is the Philosopher's Stone back of the book.

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Speaker 2: Well, I can change in ten years at Hogglarts. Yes,

1278
01:01:10,679 --> 01:01:11,639
Oh that's crazy.

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01:01:13,239 --> 01:01:16,159
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, what would we cover all of

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the names.

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01:01:16,599 --> 01:01:19,519
Speaker 2: The last one was Snape, which is this actor's name.

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01:01:19,559 --> 01:01:22,199
That's what I'm trying to find, Papa do.

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01:01:22,519 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 3: I hope I'm saying that last name correctly.

1284
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,679
Speaker 2: Probably not good time you.

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01:01:27,639 --> 01:01:29,239
Speaker 3: Guys seen him in any of the projects.

1286
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go check out his IMBB as we speak.

1287
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,679
I'm gonna follow Dylan on Black Mirror. Okay, Well, I've

1288
01:01:36,679 --> 01:01:38,599
seen him in an episode, but I don't remember that.

1289
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,840
Men men, Okay, well, I only think of the one

1290
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:46,840
guy in Man who played every character and then the

1291
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,320
main girl. I don't oh. I think maybe he was

1292
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:53,119
the boyfriend of that, which isn't He's not like actively

1293
01:01:53,159 --> 01:01:55,239
in it. He's just like in flashbacks and stuff like

1294
01:01:55,239 --> 01:01:57,840
she's just thinking about him from what I can remember.

1295
01:01:59,119 --> 01:02:02,599
So really, I I can't picture him like actually acting.

1296
01:02:02,679 --> 01:02:05,599
He's more just like a guy who's who's been around

1297
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:07,800
murder on the orient To Express. So there you go.

1298
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:09,559
I guess I've seen him in a few things, but

1299
01:02:09,639 --> 01:02:13,599
I don't have any strong memories of of any of

1300
01:02:13,639 --> 01:02:18,960
these things. Yeah, yeah, I haven't seen any of these projects,

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01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:24,440
so I really can't judge the gentleman. Yeah, I don't know.

1302
01:02:24,559 --> 01:02:27,480
I think whoever they find this is probably gonna be

1303
01:02:27,519 --> 01:02:32,519
the hardest role to to fill, just because like all

1304
01:02:32,599 --> 01:02:35,880
all of the actors that played like their you know,

1305
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:39,079
their positions, it's a weird way to say that they're

1306
01:02:39,159 --> 01:02:42,199
who they're Cassa, I guess the roles. There you go,

1307
01:02:42,239 --> 01:02:43,559
that's the word I was looking at. I don't know

1308
01:02:43,559 --> 01:02:46,039
why I went with a sports reference there, but uh, yeah,

1309
01:02:46,079 --> 01:02:49,440
for all the actors that played their their specific roles

1310
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,199
in those original Harry Potter films, it's it's gonna be

1311
01:02:52,239 --> 01:02:55,400
hard to replace. But I just feel like for Snape specifically,

1312
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,880
it's just such a such a powerful like arc I

1313
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:01,880
think that character goes through and specifically with just having

1314
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:06,800
Alan Rickman do such a spectacular job and all kind

1315
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:09,800
of the different sides of Snape that we see, like

1316
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:12,199
throughout all the different movies, he kind of goes through

1317
01:03:12,639 --> 01:03:15,440
a lot of just different stuff with his character. Most

1318
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:18,039
of it's kind of behind the scenes in the earlier films,

1319
01:03:18,079 --> 01:03:20,519
but I think once we get to the like just

1320
01:03:20,719 --> 01:03:24,159
the reveal by the end of the series, it makes

1321
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:28,119
all of those moments just like uplifted in hindsight, and

1322
01:03:29,039 --> 01:03:31,239
no matter what actor you're gonna have, like, it's gonna

1323
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:34,079
be just so difficult to get a similar effect. So

1324
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:37,400
I'm curious kind of the role of Snape and if

1325
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,360
it's going to be such a significant one in this

1326
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:41,440
new telling of the start, Like, well, it's not a

1327
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:43,599
new telling, it is a retelling. They're gonna be hitting

1328
01:03:43,599 --> 01:03:47,519
the same markers I would imagine, following like just the

1329
01:03:47,559 --> 01:03:50,760
original source material. But yeah, no, I think this is

1330
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:55,519
gonna be a real hard one to yeah, just fill. Yeah.

1331
01:03:55,559 --> 01:03:57,280
I think that this is another one just like the others,

1332
01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:59,280
where I think it's a good direct, good direction to

1333
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:02,719
go to just not try and get an Alan Rickman

1334
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:03,360
two point.

1335
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 1: Oh.

1336
01:04:03,519 --> 01:04:05,719
Speaker 2: We've talked about that so much in the Marvel perspective, like, man,

1337
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:07,639
who are they gonna get to do Wolverine? And it

1338
01:04:07,679 --> 01:04:10,119
turns out that they just caught Hugh Jackman to come

1339
01:04:10,119 --> 01:04:14,199
back and play Wolverine more because like sometimes a character

1340
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:17,079
is just so synonymous with a specific actor, it's really

1341
01:04:17,119 --> 01:04:19,719
hard to get away from that. And I think in

1342
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:22,559
this case, obviously Alan Rickman's not coming back, he's not

1343
01:04:22,679 --> 01:04:24,519
around anymore, so they're gonna have to go different route

1344
01:04:24,519 --> 01:04:26,320
here as they are with everyone here, and so I

1345
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:28,480
think this is this is an interesting route to go

1346
01:04:28,519 --> 01:04:30,320
if anyone doesn't know this actor. He is black, So

1347
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:33,199
obviously that is a very big departure from one what

1348
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:36,000
Alan Rickman's character portrayal, of course is like. But also

1349
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:38,239
from the books and like the you call it the

1350
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:41,880
canon description of these characters as far as I remember

1351
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:44,519
from the book. Uh so, But I'm all for it

1352
01:04:44,519 --> 01:04:48,840
because like these books and movies are like there's not

1353
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:51,360
a lot of diversity, and then in general it's most

1354
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:54,039
like ninety nine percent white people, and then you can

1355
01:04:54,119 --> 01:04:57,440
have the odd minor character of color who's like in

1356
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:00,000
there and has like no relevant two lines. Yeah, exactly.

1357
01:05:00,159 --> 01:05:01,639
He has like no relevance on the story at all,

1358
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,320
And so I hope that they go this route with

1359
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:07,159
like multiple characters in terms of like, I don't even

1360
01:05:07,159 --> 01:05:09,199
you can even gender swap some characters too, for all

1361
01:05:09,239 --> 01:05:11,920
I care. Like, you know, obviously for some maybe more

1362
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:13,960
mainstay ones, you want to keep that because it's important

1363
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:16,079
to what the character is, but for other ones that

1364
01:05:16,119 --> 01:05:18,880
you definitely mess around with that. And I don't know,

1365
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:20,840
I think this is this is a totally fine thing

1366
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:24,000
to do as well. I just in terms of this actor,

1367
01:05:24,039 --> 01:05:26,400
I can't recall the performances I've seen him in enough

1368
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:29,440
to say if he pulls off the snape angle of it,

1369
01:05:29,559 --> 01:05:32,719
But I don't know. I'm all for this in concept,

1370
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:36,079
so we'll see, we'll see how it goes. I'm all

1371
01:05:36,119 --> 01:05:38,400
for it again, gender swabbing pretty much anyone in here,

1372
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:40,440
But the one that I think they maybe should stay

1373
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:42,880
away from is going from moaning Myrtle to something like

1374
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:46,519
moaning Mike. You know, it's wouldn't wouldn't be hitting the

1375
01:05:46,559 --> 01:05:50,159
same effect. I don't know why I pictured like a

1376
01:05:50,199 --> 01:05:53,360
gas station worker, like just a gristly old guy when

1377
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:56,079
you said that the Trucker had or something. Yeah, moaning

1378
01:05:56,119 --> 01:06:05,880
Mike the Boys Laboratory. No, my god, that would be

1379
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:06,599
something else.

1380
01:06:08,079 --> 01:06:10,920
Speaker 3: I did see another name for.

1381
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 1: Professor McGonagall, Rachel Wise, who last she was in Black Widow.

1382
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:17,719
Speaker 2: Rachel Wise.

1383
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:19,559
Speaker 3: That's the Mummy.

1384
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:23,039
Speaker 2: That's the Mummy lady. Damn. I mean, I think she's

1385
01:06:23,079 --> 01:06:25,679
absolutely fantastic. I like her in everything that I've seen

1386
01:06:25,719 --> 01:06:29,480
her in, which is probably like three titles total. Yeah,

1387
01:06:29,559 --> 01:06:32,119
I actually liked this as well. I like this pick

1388
01:06:32,159 --> 01:06:34,679
as well. I haven't. I feel like I'm more I

1389
01:06:34,679 --> 01:06:37,199
can't picture specific role, scene room, but I like this pick.

1390
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:40,000
I think it's a good one. Do we know if

1391
01:06:40,039 --> 01:06:42,119
they're sticking to the same rule that they kind of

1392
01:06:42,119 --> 01:06:48,320
did with the original movies of like only casting British actors,

1393
01:06:48,559 --> 01:06:51,000
that's kind of what's going on right now. But yeah,

1394
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:52,840
I think all these people we've talked about have been

1395
01:06:53,119 --> 01:06:54,960
is Mark Strong an American.

1396
01:06:54,519 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 3: Guy that they're all Brits? Yeah?

1397
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:02,199
Speaker 2: Because Rachel why I thought she was not.

1398
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 3: I believe she is.

1399
01:07:05,519 --> 01:07:11,519
Speaker 2: Let me pull American American English American Okay, Okay, born Westminster, London.

1400
01:07:11,559 --> 01:07:14,079
There you go. Yeah, I feel like there's all they need. Yeah,

1401
01:07:14,119 --> 01:07:16,199
like they don't need like a birth certificate to get

1402
01:07:16,239 --> 01:07:18,519
you in. But like, if you're close, I'm sure that

1403
01:07:18,559 --> 01:07:21,599
they'll they'll allow it to slide. But yeah, I guess

1404
01:07:21,639 --> 01:07:23,199
so far, it seems like a lot of the casting

1405
01:07:23,239 --> 01:07:25,880
has been in that realm uh. We'll see if they

1406
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:29,199
venture past that or like what characters they allow themselves

1407
01:07:29,239 --> 01:07:31,599
to break that rule on because they're obviously going for

1408
01:07:31,679 --> 01:07:39,320
like known actors for the professors and such. Yeah. Yeah,

1409
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:41,480
is there any that we didn't break down yet? Any

1410
01:07:42,679 --> 01:07:43,679
rumored castings?

1411
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 1: Well, Dalton and the Chat just throw it an interesting one.

1412
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:51,360
Adam Driver a Snape for Snape.

1413
01:07:53,079 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 2: I think he's too he's too bombastic, he's too loud

1414
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:00,559
and big, and maybe he could he could shrink down

1415
01:08:00,679 --> 01:08:03,920
and be you know, more minuscule in his performance, more subtle,

1416
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:06,559
But I don't. I don't know if I I don't,

1417
01:08:06,599 --> 01:08:08,480
I don't think I've seen him do it before, so

1418
01:08:08,679 --> 01:08:12,440
we'll see. He's got the hair, absolutely. I feel like

1419
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:14,320
he's too jacked for Snape, you know. I feel like

1420
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:16,800
he's gonna lose like one hundred pounds. If you're making

1421
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:19,279
potions for a living and teaching people to make potions,

1422
01:08:19,279 --> 01:08:24,000
you are not jacked. No, definitely not unless you make

1423
01:08:24,039 --> 01:08:27,960
a potion that makes you jock. Potion of strength. Yeah, okay, yeah,

1424
01:08:28,199 --> 01:08:34,000
possibly possible. Yeah, problem, potion problem.

1425
01:08:34,039 --> 01:08:37,159
Speaker 1: All right, Well we're gonna move on from our Harry

1426
01:08:37,199 --> 01:08:40,159
Potter casting discussion. We're gonna get into some Lord of

1427
01:08:40,159 --> 01:08:43,840
the Rings topics here right after this quick ad break

1428
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:44,680
to Middle Earth.

1429
01:08:46,199 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 3: And we are back. Oh my goodness, no ads in

1430
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:50,279
Middle Earth.

1431
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:53,680
Speaker 2: Like, I've never seen a sign for like a shop. Well,

1432
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:57,199
they have menus, right, we discussed that there isn't there

1433
01:08:57,239 --> 01:08:59,479
is that is established that there is menus. But so

1434
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:03,960
if there's menus, there's probably some marketing material, you think, So, like,

1435
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:06,680
I I feel like that's the next step. I'm not

1436
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:08,680
going to say one goes hand in hand. Which kingdom

1437
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:11,119
would be like into that kind of thing? I feel

1438
01:09:11,119 --> 01:09:13,920
like definitely what's his name in the white in the

1439
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:18,520
white Tower on door, Yeah, Denis thora. I could see

1440
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:21,640
him whipping out some ads, I guess. I feel like

1441
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:25,439
Hobbits might be into advertisements. You know that's another one

1442
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:26,039
I could see.

1443
01:09:26,319 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, it's Kirkland there always welcome back, Thanks.

1444
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:40,159
Speaker 2: For having me, guys. Yeah, I would say Dennisthor would

1445
01:09:40,159 --> 01:09:42,720
be running those apps. More door. Probably not so much.

1446
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:44,439
There's not a lot of currency going on.

1447
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:47,680
Speaker 1: But but there their family, their their families out there.

1448
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:50,039
I just got appeal to the family man and the

1449
01:09:50,079 --> 01:09:52,119
baby or yeah baby.

1450
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:56,760
Speaker 2: Orcs collar workers. That's that's more. That's more door. It's

1451
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:59,760
like the the Henry Forward era. You know, people are

1452
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:03,279
just they can feed their wife and kids with a

1453
01:10:03,279 --> 01:10:07,960
factory workers salary. That's the mortor they probably want. Honestly,

1454
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:10,640
that's kind of what my gosh, I'm going to my

1455
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:13,760
rings of power now, theories on what was the what

1456
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:18,039
was the bloke that was betrayed by all of his children?

1457
01:10:18,199 --> 01:10:20,479
My gosh, what was his name?

1458
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 3: You know what, Dylan, I'm sorry, I don't.

1459
01:10:25,119 --> 01:10:27,319
Speaker 2: We'll say that guy. Yeah, that guy, that's what he was,

1460
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:37,039
Henry Ford. Yeah, oh god around around here? Oh you

1461
01:10:37,079 --> 01:10:39,520
know that's the that's the what elf, isn't it around now?

1462
01:10:40,119 --> 01:10:40,359
Speaker 1: Yes?

1463
01:10:41,399 --> 01:10:43,159
Speaker 2: I thought you had it there for something. It's something

1464
01:10:43,279 --> 01:10:45,520
short and sweet there. Gonna look it up because we're

1465
01:10:46,279 --> 01:10:49,960
we're circling like a couple of sharks that are foal.

1466
01:10:50,239 --> 01:10:51,399
They don't want to take the bit yet.

1467
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:54,520
Speaker 3: You were close, Stylan. It was an A starts with an.

1468
01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:58,359
Speaker 2: A N R or something right at all. Oh, yes,

1469
01:11:00,239 --> 01:11:00,920
that's what we're.

1470
01:11:05,279 --> 01:11:05,520
Speaker 3: Well.

1471
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:10,239
Speaker 1: On that note of Adar Lords of Rings, we have

1472
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:13,119
a lot of very interesting stuff here. I think two

1473
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:18,239
big time topics of discussion here with Vigo riding his

1474
01:11:18,319 --> 01:11:22,199
horse back or maybe the studio has been riding their

1475
01:11:22,199 --> 01:11:26,840
horses to him, because they're basically trying to wrangle him up. Yeah,

1476
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:30,680
and I'll go style for another appearance in Lord of

1477
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:34,159
the Rings. I think that's you know, hunt for Gollum

1478
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:37,319
is what they're trying to like snag him for and

1479
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:40,199
maybe in the long run it could turn into multiple

1480
01:11:40,239 --> 01:11:42,399
other projects, because I think that's what they're kind of

1481
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:46,239
looking at the good old Ian for mister Gandalf, because

1482
01:11:46,239 --> 01:11:48,680
I think that they want to just get him on

1483
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:51,000
the get him on behind the camera, and just not

1484
01:11:51,039 --> 01:11:52,600
behind the camera, get him in front of the camera,

1485
01:11:53,319 --> 01:11:55,880
and just get him in a bunch of scenes so

1486
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:57,560
they can use him in a bunch of different projects.

1487
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:00,279
I think that's at least my interpretation, because he seems

1488
01:12:00,319 --> 01:12:02,359
to be pretty gung ho for a lot of things

1489
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:05,399
right now. But yeah, Vigo, what do you guys think

1490
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:05,840
about this?

1491
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:11,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've talked about it a lot recently. It's come

1492
01:12:11,159 --> 01:12:14,760
up quite a few times. It's one of those things

1493
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:16,439
like money talks. I feel like he wouldn't want to

1494
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:17,720
do it, But then like if a bunch of other

1495
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:20,119
people come back, I feel like they, ah, fine, I'll

1496
01:12:20,119 --> 01:12:24,840
do it, of course with a truckload of golden coins.

1497
01:12:25,039 --> 01:12:28,920
But I don't know. I'm very skeptical about a lot

1498
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:31,479
of this Lord of the Ring stuff. I don't know.

1499
01:12:32,119 --> 01:12:34,199
I can always just enjoy my original trilogy, but like,

1500
01:12:34,359 --> 01:12:37,640
I don't want this stuff to ruin my opinion of

1501
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:43,399
any of these characters or actors or this world. Right, Yeah, no,

1502
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:47,760
I'm going to forever have you know that that trilogy

1503
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:50,319
that no matter what they come out and do and release,

1504
01:12:50,359 --> 01:12:53,279
I will always have that. It'll be untouched. They can't

1505
01:12:53,359 --> 01:12:55,640
change my physical copies that I have. I'll forever be

1506
01:12:55,640 --> 01:13:00,119
able to enjoy those. But I will say I feel like,

1507
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:03,479
out of any character, you can make arguments for a

1508
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:06,479
lot of different characters in the Tolkien universe, specifically ones

1509
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:08,399
that were in the Lord of the Rings trilogy that

1510
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:12,079
Peter Jackson did, Like for those actors and the characters

1511
01:13:12,079 --> 01:13:13,760
that were shown, you can make a case for a

1512
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:16,800
lot of them that you could do a good story

1513
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:18,840
with pretty much all of them, but I feel like

1514
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:23,800
for Aragorn and Vigo, I feel like that is like

1515
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:27,520
the golden one to do, just just the idea of

1516
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:32,439
like Vigo. I would want it to be not a

1517
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:35,560
prequel or anything like that, because like we're already you know,

1518
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:37,800
we've already talked about Hunt for Gollum and all that stuff.

1519
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:40,840
But I would really want, like my best case scenario

1520
01:13:41,399 --> 01:13:44,880
something like later in his in his rule, like when

1521
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:46,880
he is actually old grizzled, like you know, when you

1522
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:55,720
have you have what is it? It's when Aoin is basically

1523
01:13:56,399 --> 01:14:01,640
like just sad about the idea of leaving for the Arwin,

1524
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:03,960
not Ilwin. I don't know why I said her Arwin

1525
01:14:04,159 --> 01:14:07,600
is sad about leaving for the the Undying Lands because

1526
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,119
she's gonna be leaving ara Gorn. And then you have

1527
01:14:10,239 --> 01:14:12,399
l Ron basically just saying like, no matter what happens

1528
01:14:12,399 --> 01:14:14,560
if you stay, he's going to eventually die, even though

1529
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:16,159
he can live a very long time. And then you

1530
01:14:16,199 --> 01:14:19,159
see those shots of him like an old grizzled man man,

1531
01:14:19,239 --> 01:14:21,560
Like I feel like there is a juicy story you

1532
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:24,880
could tell, or yeah, you could tell with Vigo's character

1533
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,560
kind of in that era of his rule, and it

1534
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:31,800
wouldn't just feel like it is them throwing him back

1535
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:35,079
in his ranger uniform, like like it is no time passed,

1536
01:14:35,159 --> 01:14:37,560
you know, Like I would really want that to be

1537
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:41,520
the last resort maybe having like a story that's super

1538
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:43,640
close to the time of the events of The Lord of

1539
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:47,159
the Rings, I would want something very distance. And Yeah,

1540
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:50,800
it's just a really good opportunity to tell kind of

1541
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:54,760
like like we've seen Vigo go through the rise of

1542
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:56,640
becoming the King, you know, the return of the King,

1543
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:58,640
Like we saw that whole adventure, but let's let's have

1544
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:05,359
him like decades later after the Rain of Yeah King LSR.

1545
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:08,000
I just feel like there's a lot of sweet juice

1546
01:15:08,039 --> 01:15:11,560
there that. And it's also I feel like because we

1547
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:15,279
have Rings of Power, that's of course set different universes,

1548
01:15:15,319 --> 01:15:17,680
but like thousands of years before the events the Lord

1549
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:20,239
of the Rings, like we just have a lot of

1550
01:15:20,239 --> 01:15:25,159
stuff kind of before that's those events, but really nothing afterwards. Right,

1551
01:15:25,239 --> 01:15:30,079
Like there's the the Hidden Lost Tale of I can't remember,

1552
01:15:30,159 --> 01:15:32,640
I can't remember what it was even called, but Tolkien

1553
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:35,199
started writing like a sequel to the Lord of the Rings.

1554
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:38,239
It's it's basically just the new type of sour on

1555
01:15:38,279 --> 01:15:41,760
threat that's arising. But it never really got that much

1556
01:15:42,039 --> 01:15:46,479
I don't know written before he passed. So I just

1557
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:49,199
think there's a lot of good, juicy stories that could

1558
01:15:49,239 --> 01:15:52,800
be told, like well after the events of the Lord

1559
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:54,840
of the Rings, and it's.

1560
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:56,319
Speaker 3: Just the spirit of Denosaur coming back.

1561
01:15:56,920 --> 01:16:00,319
Speaker 2: No Dennis or let him rest, let him rest with

1562
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:04,159
the thought of his sons in his mind. And in

1563
01:16:04,159 --> 01:16:06,920
this this you know, supposed world, I'm kind of setting

1564
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:09,279
up like all those characters would be long gone because

1565
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:11,600
he's kind of the only dude in a dying right

1566
01:16:12,079 --> 01:16:14,680
around at least the events of the movies of Lord

1567
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:18,399
of the Rings, So I would expect I don't even

1568
01:16:18,399 --> 01:16:20,359
know why I'm pitching this as if it's like something

1569
01:16:20,399 --> 01:16:22,520
said in Stone, It's just in my fantasy world, this

1570
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:25,840
is kind of what we're getting and a leg stick around.

1571
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:27,520
Speaker 1: I can't remember if he went to the Undying Lands,

1572
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:29,399
because I think him and like his fone, no, he

1573
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:31,520
stayed with yeah.

1574
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 2: Yeah he so I guess yeah, they bloom back in

1575
01:16:35,119 --> 01:16:36,720
he would he would be the character that has to

1576
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:39,239
look the exact same right, because he would be like

1577
01:16:39,279 --> 01:16:42,239
the r Win situation where he isn't aging uh at

1578
01:16:42,239 --> 01:16:45,479
the same rate as someone like even the Dunodyne would be.

1579
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:50,159
Speaker 3: They're pretty cool. I'll have them both in a duo movie.

1580
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:53,159
Speaker 2: Keep Orlando bloom Away. I don't know. I I like

1581
01:16:53,239 --> 01:16:55,399
them in the role, but the more I see of

1582
01:16:55,399 --> 01:16:57,000
that guy, I'm just like, I don't think he's a

1583
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,880
good actor at all. I love him at Pirates, but

1584
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:02,960
I don't know. It's just I like the stuff that's

1585
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:08,840
going on around him more so than specifically his performances. Yep.

1586
01:17:09,039 --> 01:17:11,960
Speaker 1: I think what you guys have said is I resonate

1587
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:14,880
with it. I think you guys hit it pretty spot on.

1588
01:17:15,199 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 3: And putting him.

1589
01:17:17,319 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 1: In the Strider gear and putting him back in a prequel,

1590
01:17:20,039 --> 01:17:21,560
it is a little weird after seeing him kind of

1591
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:23,920
go on this transition and this journey and we already

1592
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:29,159
know his endgame and know his story. It's it's definitely

1593
01:17:29,159 --> 01:17:31,720
appealing to see him in a position where, like you

1594
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:33,760
Pitch Kirkle and having him in the future setting, I

1595
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:35,159
like that a lot. I think there's a lot of

1596
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:40,239
possibilities there, But just to have him and his character

1597
01:17:40,399 --> 01:17:43,600
come back at all, I will take it. I will

1598
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:46,600
take it and yeah, I'm going to remain optimistic to

1599
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:48,720
see how they do it, and as long as it's

1600
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:52,079
not shoehorned in there, because there are some characters that

1601
01:17:52,079 --> 01:17:54,439
feel a little bit shoehorned in with those Hobbit movies.

1602
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:56,960
And I'm just are they doing it because it fits

1603
01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:58,720
with the story or are they doing it because they're

1604
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:00,399
trying to cash in with the fan It's in.

1605
01:18:00,359 --> 01:18:04,800
Speaker 3: The community, right, yeah, their cashion. So I just hope

1606
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:06,439
that that's not going to be the case. Here.

1607
01:18:07,159 --> 01:18:09,720
Speaker 1: They take their time and they actually weave together a

1608
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:11,079
pretty intricate story.

1609
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:14,680
Speaker 3: But speaking of stories, my goodness.

1610
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:18,359
Speaker 1: So from what I've seen from these articles and people

1611
01:18:18,399 --> 01:18:20,239
are reporting on this, it looks like, Okay, depending on

1612
01:18:20,279 --> 01:18:22,920
how the new film War that we're hearing is going

1613
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:26,399
to do, and depending on how very early stages of

1614
01:18:26,399 --> 01:18:28,680
development the Hunter galam is going to do, this is

1615
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:31,079
going to basically set the tone for future projects. And

1616
01:18:31,119 --> 01:18:33,399
I think that they're looking at standalone projects. And we've

1617
01:18:33,399 --> 01:18:35,760
talked about this before when they were just name dropping

1618
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:36,560
all these rumors like.

1619
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 3: Oh, we're gonna give an Aergarm movie again off movie Yeah, yeah, yeada.

1620
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 1: So it looks like they're talking about War the or

1621
01:18:43,039 --> 01:18:47,079
hear them sequel talking about a whole new mainline trilogy

1622
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:50,239
in Lord of the Rings in that same vein no

1623
01:18:50,359 --> 01:18:53,520
idea about what they're thinking time period wise, but they're

1624
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:58,640
basically like saying, and I quote anything Professor Tolkien wrote,

1625
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:00,840
you see the layers and layers it's underneath there, and

1626
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:03,600
how interconnected they all are, and so end quote, that's

1627
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:07,039
basically their sandbox. They want to pull from all these stories.

1628
01:19:07,079 --> 01:19:10,079
But afterwards, I'm pretty sure how they were talking about

1629
01:19:10,119 --> 01:19:13,640
it Hunt for Gollum and then after maybe doing like

1630
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:16,560
a mainline trilogy and then getting into some more standalone films.

1631
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:19,079
Speaker 3: What do you guys think about all these ideas?

1632
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:23,319
Speaker 2: It's pretty bold, pretty bold, Yeah, I mean I think

1633
01:19:23,359 --> 01:19:25,880
really what it's gonna come down to in terms of animated,

1634
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:28,600
that one's pretty simple. They're just gonna see how Roherm does.

1635
01:19:29,319 --> 01:19:31,840
Looking like it's not gonna do amazing, who knows, maybe

1636
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:34,600
it'll pick up over the holidays and end up having

1637
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:37,000
a pretty good run. There's so many other movies releasing, though,

1638
01:19:37,039 --> 01:19:39,880
that's hard to envision that happening. I would love if

1639
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:42,159
it did, though, uh So, I kind of feel like

1640
01:19:42,199 --> 01:19:43,800
that's gonna be a bit of a one and done

1641
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:46,079
in terms of the animated thing. That's what it's looking

1642
01:19:46,159 --> 01:19:48,359
right looking like right now. And I think for Hunt

1643
01:19:48,399 --> 01:19:50,439
for Gollum, like that movie is gonna do well when

1644
01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:53,439
you bring back a lot of those main players again. Uh,

1645
01:19:54,359 --> 01:19:56,319
people are gonna be interested. They're gonna want to go

1646
01:19:56,359 --> 01:19:58,359
see that. A lot of people. It seems like I've

1647
01:19:58,399 --> 01:19:59,960
been kind of checked out, like it Rings a Pow

1648
01:20:00,199 --> 01:20:02,520
numbers are pretty good, but at least from my Lord

1649
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:05,560
of the Rings friends who I talk to about this stuff,

1650
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:06,920
they're like, oh, yeah, I never really got around a

1651
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:10,520
season two and they don't even know about this animated movie,

1652
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:12,520
or they're like I might see it later, or like

1653
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:14,359
let me know how it is after you review it,

1654
01:20:14,399 --> 01:20:16,880
Like that's how the conversations usually go. And those are

1655
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:19,720
like people who are diehard fans for this stuff. So

1656
01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:21,479
I feel like it's it's like that's the kind of

1657
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:24,359
thing that would bring people back, is getting those legacy

1658
01:20:24,399 --> 01:20:26,960
actors to come back and play those characters again. But

1659
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:30,119
once again, I feel like I kind of hope from

1660
01:20:30,159 --> 01:20:33,079
their side too, even just a business wise like CEO

1661
01:20:33,159 --> 01:20:35,439
Hunt for Gollum does and then go from there, it

1662
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:36,920
does kind of feel like, Okay, is it just gonna

1663
01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:38,680
be like cash grab, like bring back these old actors

1664
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:41,840
rather than telling new, interesting stories that expand the world.

1665
01:20:42,399 --> 01:20:43,800
I don't know, but maybe that's just the point of

1666
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:46,600
Rings of Power. That can be the separate interesting, new

1667
01:20:47,039 --> 01:20:49,520
cool thing, different castings, and then we can have like

1668
01:20:50,119 --> 01:20:53,159
the movies in the theaters that are just kind of

1669
01:20:53,199 --> 01:20:56,279
cash grabs, but like maybe they're if they're fine movies,

1670
01:20:56,319 --> 01:20:58,560
you know, maybe that's all we need. So I don't know.

1671
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:01,279
I think it's I think we're far away from getting

1672
01:21:01,279 --> 01:21:04,199
another trilogy, would be my guess, just because I think

1673
01:21:04,239 --> 01:21:05,680
they want to wait and see how these movies do

1674
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:07,920
and then like think about it and then maybe start

1675
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:09,800
green light and like all that process takes years and

1676
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:12,159
years and years. So I think we're pretty far away

1677
01:21:12,199 --> 01:21:14,239
from it. But I don't know. We're kind of getting

1678
01:21:14,279 --> 01:21:15,960
way more Lord of the Rings content than I would

1679
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:18,600
have expected five years ago, So maybe I'm just totally

1680
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:21,960
wrong on that and it's about to pop off even bigger. Yeah,

1681
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:25,399
I think a trilogy is not what I want. In

1682
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:29,239
the Lord of the Rings vein, I don't want them.

1683
01:21:29,399 --> 01:21:32,239
It's a big commitment too. Yeah, No, absolutely, and it

1684
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:35,760
also just in my mind, it makes me think that

1685
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:38,520
they just want to, like, man, let's just recreate, let's

1686
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:43,119
recapture the Peter Jackson trilogy, you know, and it's they

1687
01:21:43,199 --> 01:21:45,159
had to bring him back to do another trilogy with

1688
01:21:45,199 --> 01:21:48,000
the Hobbit and that, I mean, I guess it made

1689
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:50,159
a lot of money. So I'm not really good at

1690
01:21:50,199 --> 01:21:52,000
judging that, and I haven't even seen the projects, Like

1691
01:21:52,039 --> 01:21:55,520
I shouldn't really judge it, but I think that there's

1692
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:58,600
if you're committing to a trilogy, you're committing to a

1693
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:03,159
very long can like a contained story, right, Like it

1694
01:22:03,199 --> 01:22:05,800
all has to be attached to each other. You have

1695
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:08,560
to have progression from movie one to movie two to

1696
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:12,079
movie three. That's a very very big story to tell,

1697
01:22:12,239 --> 01:22:16,119
and there's so many pieces and money involved in getting

1698
01:22:16,119 --> 01:22:19,199
that out the door. Whereas I feel like you're losing

1699
01:22:20,039 --> 01:22:24,520
maybe certain creative freedoms of having a big budget for

1700
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:28,840
a single story that's told over three movies, or have

1701
01:22:29,399 --> 01:22:33,640
that big budget broken down into multiple smaller yeah, just

1702
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:38,239
smaller ideas, whether it's in the animated vein or I

1703
01:22:38,279 --> 01:22:41,479
don't know, a different TV show or just smaller budget movies.

1704
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:44,640
Like I we're not. We don't need to have an

1705
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:48,399
insane budget to make an amazing story. And I think

1706
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:52,079
that's I'm fearful that they're thinking that they can just

1707
01:22:52,119 --> 01:23:00,199
throw big, big buku boku boku dollars into uh In,

1708
01:23:00,199 --> 01:23:02,359
into Lord of the Rings and just get gold out

1709
01:23:02,399 --> 01:23:04,680
of it, like you can't just buy these golden gooses,

1710
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:09,000
and I don't, I don't know. I would really love

1711
01:23:09,039 --> 01:23:11,800
to see a lower budget Lord of the Rings project

1712
01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:14,439
and what they're able to do with that. And I

1713
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:17,680
say lower budget probably still you know, close to one

1714
01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:21,159
hundred million dollars, but let's go, let's go less than

1715
01:23:21,159 --> 01:23:24,000
one hundred million dollars. Let's set the bar there. I

1716
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:27,600
don't need boku dollars. There you go, that's my doll successful.

1717
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:33,399
Speaker 1: I would love to see a trilogy focusing on more god.

1718
01:23:33,319 --> 01:23:34,319
Speaker 3: Trilogy just.

1719
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:40,039
Speaker 1: His like his his fall first time he falls, then

1720
01:23:40,079 --> 01:23:42,399
he like I'm assuming he rises back up to power,

1721
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:46,159
and him teaming up with Onngoliant and then him facing

1722
01:23:46,199 --> 01:23:48,840
off against Angoliants and like more goth like sitting on

1723
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:51,640
his army of bow rogs, like I want to see

1724
01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:54,000
on screen, like give me that final battle with like

1725
01:23:54,079 --> 01:23:59,159
six seven bowrogs just all charging and like, oh my god,

1726
01:23:59,319 --> 01:24:02,840
your budget this movie that you're pitching roof, it's like

1727
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:05,880
a Mojo Mojo Universe number.

1728
01:24:06,079 --> 01:24:07,279
Speaker 2: It's just incalculable.

1729
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:10,239
Speaker 3: Craven under has got nothing on this budget I'll talk about.

1730
01:24:13,159 --> 01:24:14,039
But I think it's such.

1731
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:15,720
Speaker 1: A beautiful world where you could really kind of get

1732
01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:17,960
into those kind of really awesome fight scenes. And that's

1733
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,119
what I like about Rings of Power for the you know,

1734
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:23,039
it does a lot of things that are questionable and

1735
01:24:23,119 --> 01:24:25,439
a lot of the things right, but the battles and

1736
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:27,439
those sequences, I really do enjoy it, and I think

1737
01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:29,640
it's it's a lot of fun, like that opening Rings

1738
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:32,560
a Power Season one, episode one, that brief little opening

1739
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:34,600
of just this the Alves arriving at Middle Earth and

1740
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:39,399
that whole battle where you have the the nas Ghoul

1741
01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:43,000
or the riders. What is it that they're ah, what

1742
01:24:43,039 --> 01:24:44,720
are they riding again? They're flying on.

1743
01:24:46,039 --> 01:24:46,840
Speaker 2: The fell Beasts?

1744
01:24:47,119 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 1: Yes, thank you, the Fell Beasts versus the Eagles. Like,

1745
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:52,159
I just want to give me a trilogy of just

1746
01:24:52,239 --> 01:24:57,239
that one battle just through like six at nine hours

1747
01:24:57,239 --> 01:24:57,560
of just.

1748
01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:00,680
Speaker 2: This battle of five armies. We've been there four Taylor,

1749
01:25:02,159 --> 01:25:04,960
but a trilogy of it the Bettle, the fifteen Armies.

1750
01:25:06,279 --> 01:25:12,399
Speaker 3: I'd be there for sure. Well, anything else, Sally forth.

1751
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:14,399
Speaker 2: And then we're still talking about Lord of the Rings.

1752
01:25:14,399 --> 01:25:15,960
You know, like like what you're saying doing like five

1753
01:25:16,039 --> 01:25:17,880
years ago never would have been imagining that we're talking

1754
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:20,840
about all these like multiple Lord of the Rings projects.

1755
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:23,600
Although I'm not like the most positive and all the

1756
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:26,159
stuff that's coming out, it's it's still it's still awesome

1757
01:25:26,239 --> 01:25:28,279
that you know, it's not just captured in the two

1758
01:25:28,319 --> 01:25:31,720
thousand and five realm. We can still expand upon this

1759
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:34,640
universe that the great and powerful Tolkien set us on.

1760
01:25:36,279 --> 01:25:37,119
Speaker 3: Great powerful.

1761
01:25:38,399 --> 01:25:41,279
Speaker 1: Well, we're gonna jump to probably our last ad break

1762
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:43,960
and we're gonna talk about some trailers, so we'll be

1763
01:25:44,039 --> 01:25:48,840
right back and we are back, all right. So we

1764
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:52,920
got four trailers, by my account, that should be pretty

1765
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:54,239
fun to discuss.

1766
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:58,119
Speaker 3: I count five, You count five. I count my gosh.

1767
01:25:58,159 --> 01:26:00,239
Speaker 1: Oh, I know exactly what one you're talking about. And

1768
01:26:00,279 --> 01:26:02,279
I have disappointed you, Maddie. I'm so sorry.

1769
01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:06,199
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's targeted.

1770
01:26:06,279 --> 01:26:08,800
Speaker 3: But I know you guys. You guys don't disappoint you.

1771
01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:11,680
Speaker 2: Guys are just fine. I didn't see any of them, sorry, Maddie. No,

1772
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:14,079
I think I caught them all. I don't know. I

1773
01:26:14,119 --> 01:26:17,600
guess we'll see when we go through the list. Lead

1774
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:22,960
us in, lead us in. I'm gonna start pretty pretty

1775
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:28,119
hot and heavy here. I I think The Gorge is

1776
01:26:28,159 --> 01:26:33,039
a truly terrible trailer. I really really like the two

1777
01:26:33,079 --> 01:26:35,319
leads of this film. On you, Taylor jew of course,

1778
01:26:35,359 --> 01:26:39,319
you know, shouts out on your army, black hair, black hair,

1779
01:26:39,399 --> 01:26:43,279
on you too. Yeah, yeah, we got Assassin, we get

1780
01:26:43,319 --> 01:26:46,119
her playing Chess, the Queen's Gambits, coming Back, grow Back,

1781
01:26:46,239 --> 01:26:49,319
and this trailer. I just felt like I was really,

1782
01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:52,479
really really into the opening of this trailer, and the

1783
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:55,399
more it went on, I'm just like, man, I'm not

1784
01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:58,520
gonna see this unless unless it's really positive buzz i.

1785
01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:01,039
I just really didn't like what they're which is the

1786
01:27:01,079 --> 01:27:02,640
two of them in the Gorge. I didn't like how

1787
01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:04,720
we were going through. I'm not gonna say we're going

1788
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:06,520
through different seasons, but it seems like they're there a

1789
01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:10,000
very long time, but then there's also five days. But

1790
01:27:10,039 --> 01:27:14,039
then it also goes to them just it seems like

1791
01:27:14,039 --> 01:27:16,159
when they're doing their introduction to like what they're doing

1792
01:27:16,199 --> 01:27:18,359
at the Gorge by the time, like later on the

1793
01:27:18,359 --> 01:27:20,079
trailer like actions going on. It seems like it's the

1794
01:27:20,119 --> 01:27:22,479
exact same time. I don't know, there's just a lot

1795
01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:27,600
of different what I felt were just just pacing issues

1796
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:29,760
maybe with what this trailer was. Like. I felt like

1797
01:27:30,079 --> 01:27:32,760
they were subtle with their approach and introducing to what

1798
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:34,840
it is, and then it's just like and this is happening,

1799
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:37,039
this is happening, this is happening, and it just and

1800
01:27:37,039 --> 01:27:38,399
then we actually see them like in the go.

1801
01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1802
01:27:39,119 --> 01:27:42,279
Speaker 2: I think I think this trailer didn't know if it

1803
01:27:42,319 --> 01:27:44,560
wanted to be really subtle or show a lot, and

1804
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:48,640
it just kind of gave us everything. And I wasn't

1805
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:50,960
really a fan of just I don't even know if

1806
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:52,800
it was music, but whatever the sound was that was

1807
01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:55,880
going on. I just didn't really like this trailer. And

1808
01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:58,279
I will say I guess I'm gonn follow u up

1809
01:27:58,279 --> 01:28:01,039
with a question for you guys. I have really been

1810
01:28:01,039 --> 01:28:06,479
disappointed lately with not big screen action movie releases, and

1811
01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:10,279
that is specifically for like streaming properties. It all kind

1812
01:28:10,279 --> 01:28:13,479
of started with a Triple Frontier. I got extremely excited

1813
01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:15,039
for that movie. Go check out me and Travis did

1814
01:28:15,079 --> 01:28:17,199
a review for that movie. Whenever it came out years

1815
01:28:17,239 --> 01:28:21,720
upon years ago, but that had a major like cast

1816
01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:23,880
in it that I was really excited for. I really

1817
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:27,600
liked the trailer, and it was just very mid at best,

1818
01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:31,880
like it was very forgettable film. The Gray Man that

1819
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:34,760
came out, that was the Russo's project, I believe with Create. No,

1820
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:37,760
it wasn't Chris Evans, it was the hot goss Ryan

1821
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:42,079
Gossling himself, extremely flat. Like, I just feel like all

1822
01:28:42,079 --> 01:28:46,520
these these action movie streaming projects and there's probably one

1823
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:48,399
that I'm forgetting or maybe I haven't seen that is

1824
01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:50,960
really phenomenal. It's just in my history, I feel like

1825
01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:55,319
I've really gone down in hype levels on a streaming

1826
01:28:55,399 --> 01:28:59,680
service action movie release. And maybe that's not justified and

1827
01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:03,800
very unfair, but yeah, I like and I've seen amazing

1828
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:09,199
streaming like like whether it's Netflix original movies, but just

1829
01:29:09,359 --> 01:29:12,880
specifically action movies. There's just something that I feel like

1830
01:29:13,399 --> 01:29:16,640
is missing when I've been seeing them. And of course

1831
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:19,920
that's like an over big dark cloud over me. When

1832
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:22,800
I'm just watching this, I see the Apple Plus logo

1833
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:25,199
on it, it's just like, oh man, I like these actors,

1834
01:29:25,239 --> 01:29:28,479
but just I'm not liking this trailer and honestly, it's

1835
01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:31,079
just the tarot cards are telling me that maybe this

1836
01:29:31,119 --> 01:29:33,840
isn't gonna be a very special project. I would love

1837
01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:36,199
to be wrong, but I'm I'm not gonna seek this

1838
01:29:36,279 --> 01:29:40,199
out until I hear some very very positive praise and

1839
01:29:41,319 --> 01:29:42,920
I'm gonna put my bet down. I don't think I'm

1840
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:44,880
gonna be getting that, and you know, I'll be eating

1841
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:47,079
my words if i'm if I'm wrong. But what do

1842
01:29:47,079 --> 01:29:49,800
you guys think about this one? Yeah? I think a

1843
01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:53,800
really interesting point you made there of just like the

1844
01:29:54,319 --> 01:29:57,359
action streaming movies, and like, is that the place for these?

1845
01:29:57,479 --> 01:29:59,079
Is that kind of what we're looking for here? It's

1846
01:29:59,079 --> 01:30:01,920
funny watching this trailer. I wasn't sure, and I wasn't

1847
01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:04,359
even sure until you confirmed it there whether this was

1848
01:30:04,359 --> 01:30:07,439
a television show or a movie because whatever. It's like Apple,

1849
01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:09,560
It's like, I don't know, this is this movie show.

1850
01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:12,439
Who knows what's going on here? But I think we

1851
01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:14,199
get to your point of like they really showed a

1852
01:30:14,199 --> 01:30:15,840
lot here. It feels like, oh yeah, this is more

1853
01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:18,439
of like a movie trailer where they kind of show you,

1854
01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:20,840
like just a bit towards the end of act two,

1855
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:22,840
maybe even an act three, where they actually go down

1856
01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:24,479
to the gorge there. I think you make a great

1857
01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:27,840
point there. I think I'm a lot less negative on

1858
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:32,000
it than you, but I do think it definitely. Yes,

1859
01:30:32,039 --> 01:30:33,239
it does get a bit worse, but I think it

1860
01:30:33,279 --> 01:30:34,960
was more just like it was showing way too much

1861
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:37,079
by the end of it. I think you didn't need

1862
01:30:37,119 --> 01:30:38,880
to show anything in the gorge. I think for me

1863
01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:40,920
to be sold. And I don't know, maybe that's like

1864
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a bad Maybe it's like maybe they're not in their

1865
01:30:43,199 --> 01:30:44,800
towers for as long as I want them to be.

1866
01:30:44,920 --> 01:30:46,720
I feel like that to me seems like a really

1867
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:50,239
fun concept for a movie. These two solitary characters in

1868
01:30:50,279 --> 01:30:53,000
their towers, living their individual lives, so they get intertwined

1869
01:30:53,039 --> 01:30:55,359
with each other, but then like also still for like

1870
01:30:55,399 --> 01:30:57,520
a year, you know, just being on their own in here,

1871
01:30:57,760 --> 01:30:59,920
and then like an inciting event forces them down to

1872
01:31:00,159 --> 01:31:02,239
actually do something. It's got like a little bit of

1873
01:31:02,279 --> 01:31:06,680
like Firewatch and the tower there, and like talking on

1874
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:09,920
a radio and just like communicating in minor ways. And

1875
01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:11,840
I think it's really cool. I like, I like the cast,

1876
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:14,439
like the two main leads there, I think is really fun.

1877
01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:16,640
I do think in terms of like the action movie

1878
01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:19,399
side of it like one. I think that if you

1879
01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:22,119
look at like the writers and directors of this, it

1880
01:31:22,239 --> 01:31:25,920
makes a lot of sense. Like Scott Derrickson is the director.

1881
01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:28,680
He here, of course, who did the first Doctor Strange

1882
01:31:29,279 --> 01:31:32,199
and then he did one of the uh or he

1883
01:31:32,319 --> 01:31:35,600
was supposed to do Jurassic Park, right Taylor, or Jurassic

1884
01:31:35,640 --> 01:31:38,720
World or something like he didn't end up doing it, Yes,

1885
01:31:39,119 --> 01:31:40,640
I think, is that great? Or did he end up

1886
01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:43,960
doing it? Actually?

1887
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:46,039
Speaker 3: So, no, he never his name is not on any

1888
01:31:46,079 --> 01:31:46,760
of those kinds.

1889
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:49,199
Speaker 2: Yeah. So. And then and then the writer I was

1890
01:31:49,239 --> 01:31:51,880
just looking this up, like his last movie was Fast

1891
01:31:52,159 --> 01:31:55,119
X and then like The Tomorrow War, twenty four Hours,

1892
01:31:55,159 --> 01:31:57,000
to Live Dead, Fault, which all just looked like very

1893
01:31:57,079 --> 01:31:59,159
like generic action movies. And one of them, like the

1894
01:31:59,159 --> 01:32:00,760
trailer popped up and I to be and there's like

1895
01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:03,840
weird creatures that look like the creatures in this tree trailer,

1896
01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:06,279
you know, popping up, And so it feels like, Okay,

1897
01:32:06,319 --> 01:32:09,800
maybe the tone of this is gonna be less like

1898
01:32:10,199 --> 01:32:14,560
slow burned character work and more fun action movie. And

1899
01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:17,800
like even the tone seemed a little silly to me

1900
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:20,439
at times, which felt a little bit opposite to the

1901
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:23,560
seriousness these other times, but even like, you know, Miles

1902
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:26,560
Teller like gets his telescope and he looks over on you,

1903
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:28,199
and of course he like just looks at her ass

1904
01:32:28,239 --> 01:32:30,239
real quick, and then she like turns around and looks

1905
01:32:30,279 --> 01:32:31,760
so up. But it's like they're so far away. How

1906
01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:33,800
did she like know that he was looking at her.

1907
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:36,600
It's like a really goofy scene, you know, But I

1908
01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:38,159
feel like that's kind of what this movie is going

1909
01:32:38,199 --> 01:32:40,640
for to some extent, So I don't know. I am

1910
01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:42,960
really intrigued by the basic concept. I think that this

1911
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:46,039
seems like a movie where like midway through Act two

1912
01:32:46,159 --> 01:32:48,560
into Act three, I'm gonna be like really uninterested in

1913
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:51,680
what they do there generic fighting demons in a in

1914
01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:55,119
a hole. But I feel like the first section seems

1915
01:32:55,119 --> 01:32:57,800
like it could be really interesting, especially with these two

1916
01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:01,119
cast in this particular role. So I definitely want to

1917
01:33:01,159 --> 01:33:03,439
check this one out. I did we get a release

1918
01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:07,319
date in this trailer for the movie or is that

1919
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still unknown?

1920
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Speaker 3: I don't remember seeing one.

1921
01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:17,960
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty five February apparently, so I I know I'm

1922
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:21,920
gonna be subscribed again Apple TV when Severn season two

1923
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:24,319
comes out, which I think is pretty soon. I think

1924
01:33:24,359 --> 01:33:26,640
so I don't know. If I'm subscribed, I definitely would

1925
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:29,760
probably check this movie out. So maybe I'll share my

1926
01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:31,800
thoughts and know what we've been watching sequence in a

1927
01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:35,600
future geek First News episode, But I don't know. I'm

1928
01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:38,560
also sigourny weavers in here, probably not for very long,

1929
01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:40,520
but like, yeah, I'm down, Like I like this cast,

1930
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so I could see myself checking this one out.

1931
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm pretty excited. After seeing that poster and

1932
01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:51,000
after seeing this trailer, I think, Okay, this is maybe

1933
01:33:51,079 --> 01:33:53,800
not exactly what I was expecting, but I'm still excited

1934
01:33:53,840 --> 01:33:56,439
to watch this and see what we're dealing with here.

1935
01:33:56,479 --> 01:34:00,279
I think there's there's an interesting story narrative if you're

1936
01:34:00,319 --> 01:34:03,520
I hope. But the concept behind having these two separate

1937
01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:08,239
tower side side with no uh you're not allowed to

1938
01:34:08,239 --> 01:34:10,560
communicate with each other, I feel like, man, this is

1939
01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:12,960
just weird. If they wanted to keep these things down there,

1940
01:34:13,079 --> 01:34:16,039
they can have a much more efficient method of doing

1941
01:34:16,119 --> 01:34:17,840
it if you have like multiple.

1942
01:34:17,439 --> 01:34:20,720
Speaker 3: Crews here on rotation and communicating from one side of

1943
01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:21,880
the wall to the other side of the wall.

1944
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Speaker 1: It's just a little weird, But I'm I need to

1945
01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:26,880
see the movie first. To fully understand that. I feel

1946
01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:29,279
like what you were talking about Dylan, where he's like

1947
01:34:29,359 --> 01:34:31,560
just scoping out like her butt real quick. I feel

1948
01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:33,640
like you're gonna get a scene where she's gonna be

1949
01:34:33,680 --> 01:34:37,159
like slowly taking her shirt off, like off off of

1950
01:34:37,199 --> 01:34:38,439
her shoulder, and she's.

1951
01:34:40,199 --> 01:34:42,000
Speaker 2: Seems like I don't know if she, oh yeah, came

1952
01:34:42,039 --> 01:34:43,720
in that, but it seems like we're going down that

1953
01:34:44,199 --> 01:34:47,119
kind of sexy uh sexy spy.

1954
01:34:47,359 --> 01:34:49,800
Speaker 3: Yeah. And while they're doing that, the monsters are escaping

1955
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from their.

1956
01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:53,439
Speaker 2: Towns.

1957
01:34:53,720 --> 01:34:54,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1958
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Speaker 1: So but I mean, I'm always down for a good

1959
01:34:56,840 --> 01:34:59,920
monster movie, and so we'll see what this one entails.

1960
01:35:00,279 --> 01:35:05,239
It releasing in February. Yeah, I'm I'm interested. I haven't

1961
01:35:05,239 --> 01:35:07,479
had Apple TV for a while, so I'm probably gonna

1962
01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:10,680
I'll renew it to specifically watch this along with a

1963
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:13,520
few other shows as well. I know you mentioned Shrinking

1964
01:35:13,560 --> 01:35:15,439
Den A few other people have been recommending that to

1965
01:35:15,479 --> 01:35:15,920
me as well.

1966
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:17,800
Speaker 2: So yeah, season two is kind of a drag. So

1967
01:35:18,039 --> 01:35:21,640
I watched season one and then close it out. Okay,

1968
01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:25,239
but yeah, no, I'm I'm adding this to my watch

1969
01:35:25,279 --> 01:35:27,439
list for sure. So that'd be a fun bread and

1970
01:35:27,479 --> 01:35:31,119
butter topic of just like great one season shows, you know,

1971
01:35:31,279 --> 01:35:33,439
like they don't end after one season, but they should

1972
01:35:33,439 --> 01:35:36,720
have really really awful. I remember Travis mentioning Altered Carbon.

1973
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:38,680
I don't know if that was good for multiple seasons,

1974
01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:40,359
but I remember him saying it was really good season

1975
01:35:40,359 --> 01:35:42,800
one and then not so much after that. And I

1976
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:45,680
feel like there's many of those actually, Like even I

1977
01:35:45,720 --> 01:35:47,960
never saw it, but I heard Westworld is phenomenal for

1978
01:35:48,479 --> 01:35:52,079
a little while and then it's not so uh yeah,

1979
01:35:52,119 --> 01:35:53,960
maybe I'll have to put that in the It is

1980
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in my bread butter notes. Now, hell, yeah, there you go.

1981
01:35:56,920 --> 01:36:01,399
It's solid. You guys want next? I pitched one, you

1982
01:36:01,399 --> 01:36:02,960
pitched it one. Well, I want to talk to you

1983
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:06,880
guys a little bit about twenty eighth. We're at years now, right, yeah,

1984
01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:10,039
twenty eight years later. So I have not seen either

1985
01:36:10,079 --> 01:36:12,000
of these two movies leading up to it, but it

1986
01:36:12,039 --> 01:36:17,399
seems like my jam, it's like kind of virus outbreak

1987
01:36:17,479 --> 01:36:18,880
movie zombie situation.

1988
01:36:19,039 --> 01:36:19,239
Speaker 3: Right.

1989
01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:21,640
Speaker 2: Have you guys seen the first two movies or either

1990
01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:25,319
either of them? Yes, I'm pretty sure I've seen one

1991
01:36:25,319 --> 01:36:27,239
of them. I don't know which one it is, though,

1992
01:36:27,359 --> 01:36:29,800
And it's funny because going into this, I think I

1993
01:36:29,880 --> 01:36:32,039
was thinking of like thirty days of Night or something.

1994
01:36:32,079 --> 01:36:34,199
Is that the one when they're in Alaska? Yeah, Taylor,

1995
01:36:34,199 --> 01:36:38,039
you okay, I definitely mixed up those movies. Taylor is

1996
01:36:38,119 --> 01:36:43,399
so good at these genre of movies. All thirty days

1997
01:36:43,399 --> 01:36:45,760
a night. It's two days after twenty eight days later.

1998
01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:48,119
Speaker 3: I'm kidding this guy.

1999
01:36:48,359 --> 01:36:51,079
Speaker 2: I believe you have me. You have on the hook.

2000
01:36:51,319 --> 01:36:53,880
I was nippling like a little fish. But yeah, I

2001
01:36:53,920 --> 01:36:58,079
guess my question on this is like, what are what

2002
01:36:58,199 --> 01:37:00,560
is the Jona Saiqua? What is the sauce of this

2003
01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:02,720
as like a zombie movie type thing? Is it like

2004
01:37:03,079 --> 01:37:05,640
really good characters? Is really good just action? Is it

2005
01:37:05,680 --> 01:37:09,439
really scary? Is it really good atmosphere? Like? Why are

2006
01:37:09,479 --> 01:37:12,039
these movies interesting? Why are we getting a trilogy of them?

2007
01:37:12,079 --> 01:37:15,119
What's like the special sauce for this as like as

2008
01:37:15,159 --> 01:37:17,239
where it fits in the genre. I guess.

2009
01:37:19,159 --> 01:37:23,239
Speaker 1: For me, I find that these movies are really good

2010
01:37:23,279 --> 01:37:26,680
at feeling. There's a lot of human emotion in this

2011
01:37:27,159 --> 01:37:29,479
and that first one, particular, twenty eight days later, that

2012
01:37:29,479 --> 01:37:31,840
one is definitely like the I put that over the

2013
01:37:32,039 --> 01:37:36,039
over the second one to some degree, but it's it's

2014
01:37:36,039 --> 01:37:40,399
great because it just feels hopeless. At times, and then

2015
01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:44,720
there are there's not many, but the odd moment where

2016
01:37:44,720 --> 01:37:46,880
it just feels you feel hope and you just feel

2017
01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:49,079
like all this energy emanating from these characters, and they

2018
01:37:49,119 --> 01:37:50,960
do a really good job of just kind of having

2019
01:37:51,039 --> 01:37:54,119
their stories develop and progress and just dealing with so

2020
01:37:54,359 --> 01:37:59,439
many triviulative things that aren't necessarily all. I mean, of course,

2021
01:37:59,640 --> 01:38:02,199
zombie are the root cause of a lot of these problems,

2022
01:38:02,239 --> 01:38:06,399
but the things that happen in between the zombies, where

2023
01:38:06,399 --> 01:38:08,479
it's other people that are bad and just the world

2024
01:38:08,560 --> 01:38:11,680
falling apart, all these different things, it's it's pretty nuts.

2025
01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:15,000
And then the concept of the zombies themselves. I think

2026
01:38:15,039 --> 01:38:17,680
that's what that's what makes interesting when we get into

2027
01:38:17,680 --> 01:38:21,359
this trailer, because in the first two films it's different

2028
01:38:21,479 --> 01:38:24,000
from regular zombies, and I think that that's.

2029
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:27,279
Speaker 3: Really cool how they tackle it where it's it's.

2030
01:38:29,239 --> 01:38:31,239
Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't necessarily want to spoil that,

2031
01:38:31,279 --> 01:38:33,600
because I hope you guys go through and I would

2032
01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:34,159
love to do it.

2033
01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:36,920
Speaker 2: I would love to do a retro. I can't remember

2034
01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:39,640
if we pen that already, but yeah, I'm game as well.

2035
01:38:39,640 --> 01:38:42,079
If it hasn't been pen let's should we officially penant,

2036
01:38:42,079 --> 01:38:46,600
sign your bread and butter notes signing the contract orright now,

2037
01:38:46,640 --> 01:38:47,960
there we go.

2038
01:38:48,039 --> 01:38:53,840
Speaker 3: So we wrote that, but in a non spoiler way.

2039
01:38:54,199 --> 01:38:57,119
Speaker 1: The thing that makes these different from other zombies is

2040
01:38:57,119 --> 01:39:00,720
that these are living people that are infected with the virus,

2041
01:39:01,159 --> 01:39:04,199
but they'll die eventually, like if there's no food or

2042
01:39:04,239 --> 01:39:06,640
anything like that, they'll die because they're not undead like

2043
01:39:06,680 --> 01:39:09,359
a zombie is, which is very interesting. So you're dealing

2044
01:39:09,399 --> 01:39:12,239
with something that after a few weeks of just like starvation,

2045
01:39:12,399 --> 01:39:16,039
it's just gonna collapse and die, which changes the dynamic,

2046
01:39:16,119 --> 01:39:19,520
and that creates a very interesting scenario and narrative between

2047
01:39:19,680 --> 01:39:23,079
the first film and the second film, whereas here and

2048
01:39:23,119 --> 01:39:26,159
you can quote them on the movie poster, they're talking

2049
01:39:26,199 --> 01:39:29,319
about how things have evolved, YadA, YadA, YadA. So I'm

2050
01:39:29,359 --> 01:39:32,319
thinking with this, you're gonna be getting probably like class

2051
01:39:32,359 --> 01:39:35,239
type zombies, something a little bit more smarter, something that's

2052
01:39:35,279 --> 01:39:38,640
gonna be leading. Because there's several shots in this trailer

2053
01:39:38,680 --> 01:39:43,159
that show what looks like your standard rage virus infected

2054
01:39:43,319 --> 01:39:45,560
moving around and then one of these things kind of

2055
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:48,439
standing there doing something sinister, and it looks like there

2056
01:39:48,520 --> 01:39:51,560
is a reoccurring one going up through through this trailer,

2057
01:39:51,640 --> 01:39:54,239
But yeah, I think you're just gonna be dealing with

2058
01:39:54,279 --> 01:39:55,840
some like smarter zombie.

2059
01:39:56,319 --> 01:39:58,680
Speaker 2: That makes sense. I mean I feel like to some

2060
01:39:58,720 --> 01:40:01,279
extent to you would think that naturally if like a

2061
01:40:01,279 --> 01:40:04,079
ton of the earth, Like, is it a worldwide epidemic

2062
01:40:04,159 --> 01:40:05,880
situation or is it just like in the.

2063
01:40:05,680 --> 01:40:09,079
Speaker 1: The first one is just in England and the second

2064
01:40:09,159 --> 01:40:12,800
one just in England.

2065
01:40:12,880 --> 01:40:15,560
Speaker 2: Yeah you know, Okay, yeah, so I I guess yeah,

2066
01:40:15,600 --> 01:40:17,520
there's an element too over Like you would think if

2067
01:40:17,560 --> 01:40:20,680
these things have like a regular lifespan and they're you know,

2068
01:40:20,720 --> 01:40:23,159
they don't have the means to like make a house

2069
01:40:23,239 --> 01:40:25,079
and put food in a fridge, so they kind of

2070
01:40:25,079 --> 01:40:28,319
just need to like scrounch to survive, that they would

2071
01:40:28,399 --> 01:40:30,000
just like a lot of them would die out over

2072
01:40:30,039 --> 01:40:31,760
the course of twenty eight years, Like that's a lot

2073
01:40:31,800 --> 01:40:34,399
longer a period of time, but it seems like they're

2074
01:40:34,439 --> 01:40:36,199
still thriving. There's still a shit ton of them in

2075
01:40:36,239 --> 01:40:39,000
this movie. So whether that's an evolution thing or it's

2076
01:40:39,000 --> 01:40:41,319
just spread to a different location, I'm not sure. But

2077
01:40:41,640 --> 01:40:43,800
I think this trailer was was really interesting and really good,

2078
01:40:43,880 --> 01:40:46,119
had a very specific mood to it. I think the voiceover.

2079
01:40:46,479 --> 01:40:48,720
The lady was doing the voiceover for it, which is

2080
01:40:48,800 --> 01:40:50,159
kind of like a bit of a song and kind

2081
01:40:50,159 --> 01:40:52,199
of just like talking through things. It was like really

2082
01:40:52,199 --> 01:40:54,960
cool on atmospheric and interesting. So I don't know, I'm

2083
01:40:55,039 --> 01:40:57,880
I'm really intrigued by this. I don't think it was

2084
01:40:58,279 --> 01:41:00,439
necessarily my favorite trailer, but I think think just like

2085
01:41:00,520 --> 01:41:03,560
the concept. I it may be a bit of a gimmick,

2086
01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:05,079
but I love that it's like twenty eight days and

2087
01:41:05,079 --> 01:41:07,279
then twenty eight weeks and twenty eight years, and like

2088
01:41:07,319 --> 01:41:09,760
it's not exactly twenty eight years after the first one.

2089
01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:12,000
I don't think, right, but I don't know. I just

2090
01:41:12,039 --> 01:41:15,439
think it's a very like thirty years like, so it's

2091
01:41:15,439 --> 01:41:18,720
pretty close. Is that Actually? That's that's really see. I

2092
01:41:18,760 --> 01:41:21,159
just think that's so fun and interesting from like a

2093
01:41:21,199 --> 01:41:25,039
movie stwndpoint. It feels not as gimmicky as like other

2094
01:41:25,119 --> 01:41:27,800
legacy sequels we've got recently for some reason, even though

2095
01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:29,840
it is a bit of that same thing. But I'm

2096
01:41:29,880 --> 01:41:33,800
I'm really intrigued by this general concept. So yeah, I'm

2097
01:41:35,079 --> 01:41:37,000
I don't know, I'm excited to jump into this. And

2098
01:41:37,039 --> 01:41:39,239
the way that like Evil Dead was a complete mystery

2099
01:41:39,279 --> 01:41:40,520
to me. And then we did the retro and it

2100
01:41:40,520 --> 01:41:42,239
was the first time I watched those movies, and then

2101
01:41:42,560 --> 01:41:44,720
now I've been watching these new ones as they're coming out.

2102
01:41:45,359 --> 01:41:47,159
I think there was even announcement today of like another

2103
01:41:47,159 --> 01:41:49,880
one is officially confirmed, so that's pretty cool. I don't

2104
01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:51,439
know if we had that in our notes, but yeah,

2105
01:41:51,479 --> 01:41:54,600
I think this is gonna be a similar space for me,

2106
01:41:54,680 --> 01:41:56,319
and I'm excited to check this one off the list

2107
01:41:56,319 --> 01:41:58,239
because I love a good zombie, even if they're a

2108
01:41:58,239 --> 01:42:01,039
bit different, as you said, Taylor, in terms of their stats,

2109
01:42:01,039 --> 01:42:02,840
they're a little bit different than what we've seen before,

2110
01:42:02,960 --> 01:42:04,720
but I think that's a really cool idea, so hopefully

2111
01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:06,960
still have a bit of that uniqueness, even if they

2112
01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:08,520
have to come up with a story reason why they're

2113
01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:13,439
alive all these years later. Yeah, I'm I'm very excited

2114
01:42:13,439 --> 01:42:15,479
for this. I'm this is one where I'm not just

2115
01:42:15,520 --> 01:42:17,119
excited for the movie. I'm excited for the retro, Like

2116
01:42:17,159 --> 01:42:18,840
I'm excited for this whole adventure we're going to be

2117
01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:22,159
going on, these twenty eight adventures that we're gonna be doing.

2118
01:42:23,439 --> 01:42:28,199
And I it's funny, I'm very similar to you, Dylan,

2119
01:42:28,239 --> 01:42:32,239
where like I'm pretty sure I have seen twenty eight

2120
01:42:32,399 --> 01:42:35,159
days later or weeks I can't remember. You know, I'll

2121
01:42:35,199 --> 01:42:37,840
find that out when we go into it. Because Killian

2122
01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:40,560
Murphy is in. He's not in all of them, right,

2123
01:42:40,680 --> 01:42:41,840
is he just in the original?

2124
01:42:41,960 --> 01:42:42,800
Speaker 3: Just in the original?

2125
01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:45,479
Speaker 2: Okay, because I think I remember him, so maybe I've

2126
01:42:45,479 --> 01:42:46,479
only seen the original.

2127
01:42:47,000 --> 01:42:49,399
Speaker 3: The second one has Hawkeye in it.

2128
01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:53,119
Speaker 2: Jeremy Renner one of our patrons. Way, yeah, I am

2129
01:42:53,439 --> 01:42:58,119
out of Yeah, Jeremy Renner. But no, I'm I'm The

2130
01:42:58,159 --> 01:42:59,840
reason why I said I agree with you, Dylan is

2131
01:43:00,119 --> 01:43:02,840
I'm excited to get into this universe. But I don't

2132
01:43:02,880 --> 01:43:06,439
think this was really a great trailer. Like honestly, I don't.

2133
01:43:06,439 --> 01:43:08,159
I don't know. Maybe maybe maybe it is a good

2134
01:43:08,159 --> 01:43:09,680
trailer because it didn't show a whole lot, you know.

2135
01:43:09,760 --> 01:43:12,119
I was bringing up my grievances with that with the Gorge,

2136
01:43:12,159 --> 01:43:17,479
but I I like the the like just the setting.

2137
01:43:17,560 --> 01:43:20,600
I guess it's funny you mentioned just like the zombie atmosphere.

2138
01:43:20,920 --> 01:43:23,119
This felt like product Zomboid the movie. Man. I can't

2139
01:43:23,159 --> 01:43:25,039
wait to get in there with you. Dylan. Then play

2140
01:43:25,079 --> 01:43:28,600
some zomboie. I've been going pretty hard now. But yeah, no,

2141
01:43:28,720 --> 01:43:31,439
it very much reminded me of that, and that's the

2142
01:43:31,439 --> 01:43:34,079
greatest zombie game ever made. So I'm so excited for

2143
01:43:34,319 --> 01:43:37,279
That's a big claim. Yeah, that's a big claim. And

2144
01:43:37,319 --> 01:43:38,880
when we talk about on side Quest, we will have

2145
01:43:38,920 --> 01:43:41,840
to do a list of the zombie games because that's

2146
01:43:41,840 --> 01:43:44,319
a big claim. Pennett. Pennett put it in the in

2147
01:43:44,359 --> 01:43:48,279
the documents it yeah, sign it off, No, I yeah,

2148
01:43:48,319 --> 01:43:50,920
So I I liked the setting that was set there,

2149
01:43:51,920 --> 01:43:54,880
but like beyond that, I didn't. I wasn't loving everything

2150
01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:57,479
I was seeing. But I'm just intrigued by this film

2151
01:43:57,760 --> 01:44:00,359
and what it is really really like the cast that

2152
01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:04,680
they have in here, like Jody Comer, of course, she's fantastic,

2153
01:44:05,680 --> 01:44:08,920
Big Ray Fines love that guy so and then ATJ

2154
01:44:09,079 --> 01:44:11,039
can't forget about a TJ R. Crave in The Hunter,

2155
01:44:11,119 --> 01:44:14,279
the guy that sold already killed Sony Universe. You know

2156
01:44:15,920 --> 01:44:18,960
you put the nail on the coffin. Uh definitely wasn't

2157
01:44:19,000 --> 01:44:21,800
his fault. But no, Yeah, I'm I'm very much looking

2158
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:25,000
forward to this. And although I didn't like this trailer,

2159
01:44:25,479 --> 01:44:27,640
I don't really need a trailer. I'm intrigued enough to

2160
01:44:27,920 --> 01:44:31,359
see this project. So yeah, they sold me.

2161
01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:32,680
Speaker 3: Let me ask you guys, this.

2162
01:44:32,840 --> 01:44:36,079
Speaker 1: Are you gonna go into that pitch black dark tunnel

2163
01:44:36,119 --> 01:44:39,680
with only your amasy little headlamp on and you have

2164
01:44:39,720 --> 01:44:41,039
a gun, you have your soul rifle.

2165
01:44:41,279 --> 01:44:43,479
Speaker 2: I mean, what's that steak here? You know? Is like

2166
01:44:43,680 --> 01:44:46,600
is like the cure too, is like the medicine that

2167
01:44:46,640 --> 01:44:47,880
I need on the other side of this tunnel. And

2168
01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:48,800
that's the only way to get there.

2169
01:44:48,840 --> 01:44:51,279
Speaker 1: Because if my commander is telling me that I'm I'm

2170
01:44:51,319 --> 01:44:55,399
calling bullshit. I don't think it's in that tunnel. If

2171
01:44:55,439 --> 01:44:57,079
it is, I'm going to get a bigger head lamp.

2172
01:44:57,359 --> 01:44:58,760
I ain't wear this thing.

2173
01:44:59,640 --> 01:45:03,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds fair, But how many lights and flashlights

2174
01:45:03,520 --> 01:45:05,479
and batteries and things do we still have twenty eight

2175
01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:08,600
years later? Like maybe you just don't have the tools,

2176
01:45:08,680 --> 01:45:10,840
you know, that's a fair point. Yeah, And maybe the

2177
01:45:10,920 --> 01:45:14,600
zombies the dark too, I'm not sure, extremely dependent on

2178
01:45:14,640 --> 01:45:16,840
the situation, the context of everything that's going on. You know,

2179
01:45:16,920 --> 01:45:18,880
like family member of mine is in there, and I

2180
01:45:18,920 --> 01:45:22,399
don't have to go save them. Maybe, but again my

2181
01:45:22,840 --> 01:45:25,720
history playing zombie games don't do that. It's not worth iTech.

2182
01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:27,760
Missions for zombie games tell me to go in there,

2183
01:45:27,800 --> 01:45:31,199
you know, specifically dying light and I usually just skip

2184
01:45:31,239 --> 01:45:32,680
those missions because I just don't want to do it

2185
01:45:32,680 --> 01:45:34,960
because they're scary, and I'll wait till I'm sure these

2186
01:45:34,960 --> 01:45:39,000
guys tried, but yeah, they can't skip their main quests

2187
01:45:39,000 --> 01:45:43,199
that they're on here. But speaking of randomly thought, if

2188
01:45:43,199 --> 01:45:45,079
you're played Dying Light too, Taylor, you and I were

2189
01:45:45,119 --> 01:45:47,640
kind of buzzing about it when it released. It's now

2190
01:45:47,680 --> 01:45:50,119
officially on the PlayStation catalog, so I will be touching

2191
01:45:50,159 --> 01:45:52,640
it at some point. I'm kind of excited about that,

2192
01:45:52,680 --> 01:45:55,560
but I was just I can't remember if you grip

2193
01:45:55,640 --> 01:45:57,359
the controller with some Dying Light too.

2194
01:45:58,319 --> 01:46:01,119
Speaker 1: No, I didn't grip that controller unfortunately, But if you

2195
01:46:01,319 --> 01:46:02,880
persuade me when you play it.

2196
01:46:03,640 --> 01:46:05,720
Speaker 2: If there's hey, if there's cross play, I know there's

2197
01:46:05,800 --> 01:46:12,520
multiplayer the first game out, If there's you there, good, No,

2198
01:46:12,560 --> 01:46:16,319
I'm not going in that tunnel that ki a floodlight.

2199
01:46:16,359 --> 01:46:16,520
Speaker 1: I know.

2200
01:46:16,760 --> 01:46:19,039
Speaker 2: Was the truly terrible trailer the Gorge? Or is there

2201
01:46:19,039 --> 01:46:21,880
another trailer that you hate even more than the Gorge? No,

2202
01:46:22,039 --> 01:46:24,520
it was the Gorge. I wanted to start either super

2203
01:46:24,520 --> 01:46:26,920
positive or super negative, and we got the super negative

2204
01:46:26,920 --> 01:46:30,239
out of the way. Can I go super positive here?

2205
01:46:30,399 --> 01:46:34,520
Please do it? The Brutalist ladies and gentlemen. I was

2206
01:46:34,640 --> 01:46:36,840
so blown away by this trailer, and I think it's

2207
01:46:37,960 --> 01:46:40,720
I think it's because I don't know, it's kind of

2208
01:46:40,720 --> 01:46:42,720
a funny thing where I'm always just like shipping over

2209
01:46:42,800 --> 01:46:44,920
Oscar movies. I'm like, they're so boring and like they're

2210
01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:47,359
just I get it, they're well made, but you know

2211
01:46:47,439 --> 01:46:49,079
I I kind of talked about that on my September

2212
01:46:49,079 --> 01:46:51,640
five review, but man, coming off Sptember five, I'm like, fuck,

2213
01:46:51,720 --> 01:46:54,039
this is a well made movie. And seeing this trailer,

2214
01:46:54,079 --> 01:46:56,000
I'm like, this looks like it's gonna be a fucking

2215
01:46:56,000 --> 01:46:58,079
Oscar movie, and it looks like it's gonna be extremely

2216
01:46:58,119 --> 01:47:01,600
well in this new era of Austinn. I'm excited for this.

2217
01:47:02,760 --> 01:47:06,399
I loved this trailer so much, and it's really not

2218
01:47:06,520 --> 01:47:08,119
a type of genre that I would normally be like

2219
01:47:08,159 --> 01:47:14,760
focusing on Adrian Brody, Yeah, I believe he's an Oscar

2220
01:47:14,800 --> 01:47:18,760
winner with the Pianist, which it's kind of funny, similar

2221
01:47:18,800 --> 01:47:22,199
type of name, uh to the Brutalist. My favorite appearance

2222
01:47:22,239 --> 01:47:25,359
by him is in the Great King Kong movie. I

2223
01:47:25,399 --> 01:47:27,319
was gonna ask you, guys, what's your what's the first

2224
01:47:27,359 --> 01:47:28,880
thing you think of when you think of Adrian Mroter.

2225
01:47:29,000 --> 01:47:30,880
For me, it's still King Kong all these years, it's

2226
01:47:30,920 --> 01:47:32,960
King Kong. A little bit of Tyler Saras. I don't know,

2227
01:47:33,000 --> 01:47:38,720
there's some Tyler Saras and what did you say, Taylor Predators? Oh, Predators,

2228
01:47:38,760 --> 01:47:43,800
that's another good one there. Definitely not like his highest

2229
01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:47,439
accolade movies, I would say, but I enjoy I enjoy

2230
01:47:47,479 --> 01:47:51,159
those ones the most. But yeah, no, I was really

2231
01:47:51,199 --> 01:47:53,439
really intrigued by everything in here. I'm not even like

2232
01:47:53,479 --> 01:47:58,079
a Guy Piers fan. I'm pretty much disliked. I think so.

2233
01:47:58,279 --> 01:48:00,600
I think so, like like Memento that had a lot

2234
01:48:00,640 --> 01:48:02,600
of buzz and stuff about it. I didn't really like

2235
01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:04,800
the movie, and I really just didn't like him in

2236
01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:08,479
that role, you know, like the big like text that

2237
01:48:08,520 --> 01:48:11,640
came that comes on the trailer, it's like, guys, wow,

2238
01:48:11,720 --> 01:48:15,079
let me try again. Guy Pierce's best performance of his career.

2239
01:48:15,079 --> 01:48:17,079
And I'm like, man, maybe this's gonna win me over

2240
01:48:17,159 --> 01:48:18,920
because I am kind of liking what I'm seeing from

2241
01:48:18,960 --> 01:48:21,039
his character in this trailer. He's seems like a piece

2242
01:48:21,079 --> 01:48:24,319
of shit. But this just looks like such a such

2243
01:48:24,359 --> 01:48:28,600
a like dark telling, I guess of I don't even

2244
01:48:28,600 --> 01:48:30,479
want to say dark telling, because it seems like there's

2245
01:48:30,520 --> 01:48:33,039
some nice hopefulness in there, but just maybe like a

2246
01:48:33,079 --> 01:48:37,039
focus on like a darker period of specifically just the

2247
01:48:37,159 --> 01:48:40,920
idea of a an immigrant going to America and just

2248
01:48:40,920 --> 01:48:43,800
the era that they're that they're covering, and it just

2249
01:48:43,840 --> 01:48:46,399
feels like an epic and and not in the sense

2250
01:48:46,439 --> 01:48:48,880
of like a big sci fi or fantasy epic. It

2251
01:48:48,960 --> 01:48:52,960
just seems like a historical epic and not like a

2252
01:48:52,960 --> 01:48:55,159
big war movie or anything like like, it just seems

2253
01:48:55,199 --> 01:48:58,680
something very special and yeah, movie, I'd never heard it before,

2254
01:48:58,680 --> 01:49:00,760
but after seeing this trailer, I got to see this

2255
01:49:00,840 --> 01:49:04,159
in theaters. This looks so amazing, And I'm expecting like

2256
01:49:04,199 --> 01:49:07,479
a three hour heavy watch, you know, it's kind of

2257
01:49:07,520 --> 01:49:11,520
on like an emotion. Fifteen minutes. Okay, that's been pretty long.

2258
01:49:12,359 --> 01:49:14,680
That's I mean, less than I was expecting.

2259
01:49:14,680 --> 01:49:15,039
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2260
01:49:15,079 --> 01:49:17,039
Speaker 2: I when I saw the trailer just felt like a

2261
01:49:17,119 --> 01:49:20,520
two forty minimum, so kind of like that too. Well,

2262
01:49:20,520 --> 01:49:22,560
it's two hundred and fifteen minutes. What does that transit?

2263
01:49:22,600 --> 01:49:25,800
Oh jeez, Okay, sorry, I never misfeard that. That's at

2264
01:49:25,880 --> 01:49:31,319
least five hours of my mess. That's wrong. Yeah, what

2265
01:49:31,439 --> 01:49:32,520
you got for us, Taylor.

2266
01:49:36,760 --> 01:49:40,439
Speaker 1: Uh, two hundred and fifteen minutes is what you said, Dylan, Yes,

2267
01:49:41,079 --> 01:49:41,920
I'm getting.

2268
01:49:41,640 --> 01:49:46,520
Speaker 3: Three and a half hours, So that's kind of was

2269
01:49:46,560 --> 01:49:47,079
that sane?

2270
01:49:47,680 --> 01:49:50,920
Speaker 2: So there you go trailers on the top of that

2271
01:49:50,960 --> 01:49:54,600
and you're there for four hours at that point. Yeah, crazy,

2272
01:49:54,920 --> 01:49:57,119
I'm gonna be bring don't get a soda for that one.

2273
01:49:57,119 --> 01:49:59,319
You're gonna have to take a leak at some point.

2274
01:49:59,479 --> 01:50:02,399
I probably Well, I did that for Endgame. I'm pretty

2275
01:50:02,720 --> 01:50:06,399
pre notorious for doing that for three hour movies. But uh, yeah,

2276
01:50:06,680 --> 01:50:09,000
get the catheter. At least we'll see see what I Yeah,

2277
01:50:09,039 --> 01:50:13,760
i'd call them. Yeah, yeah. I think this is a

2278
01:50:13,880 --> 01:50:18,520
very solid trailer as well. Looks very very emotional and

2279
01:50:18,880 --> 01:50:20,800
looks like, I mean, to some extent, looks like a

2280
01:50:20,840 --> 01:50:23,279
story we've seen before. But I think what you're to

2281
01:50:23,319 --> 01:50:25,920
your point like, it's just a well made trailer. Editing

2282
01:50:25,960 --> 01:50:28,640
looks really good, the visuals of it. Not that it's

2283
01:50:28,640 --> 01:50:31,680
doing some crazy huge bomb basket special effects, but just

2284
01:50:31,680 --> 01:50:33,760
like what it's doing seems really good, seems like some

2285
01:50:33,760 --> 01:50:36,920
great performances there. I'm excited to see Flossy Jones in

2286
01:50:36,960 --> 01:50:39,119
this because I feel like I haven't really seen her

2287
01:50:39,560 --> 01:50:41,239
in much beyond the Star Wars stuff, and I just

2288
01:50:41,319 --> 01:50:43,720
want to see more of her acting and see what

2289
01:50:43,760 --> 01:50:45,359
she can do. And this feels like a movie where

2290
01:50:45,399 --> 01:50:47,840
she could be just acting a whole lot, doing a

2291
01:50:47,840 --> 01:50:50,439
bunch of really interesting stuff. So yeah, I don't I

2292
01:50:50,439 --> 01:50:51,840
don't know if I'm gonna be there in the theater

2293
01:50:52,079 --> 01:50:54,560
with you, especially if it's that freaking long. Holy f

2294
01:50:54,640 --> 01:50:57,279
But I could see myself checking this one out as well,

2295
01:50:57,840 --> 01:51:00,800
So yeah, I think it was a very very solid

2296
01:51:00,800 --> 01:51:01,560
trailer for sure.

2297
01:51:03,840 --> 01:51:06,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a good trailer and it's a

2298
01:51:06,279 --> 01:51:08,640
very interesting story, but I don't think I'm gonna be

2299
01:51:08,680 --> 01:51:10,880
seeing it in theaters. And after hearing that run time,

2300
01:51:11,479 --> 01:51:13,439
I think this is gonna be a home movie for me.

2301
01:51:14,199 --> 01:51:19,680
But you might get that another Oscar Solo review from.

2302
01:51:20,760 --> 01:51:25,359
Speaker 2: There you go, three hour long sololy cover. Yeah, because

2303
01:51:25,399 --> 01:51:27,720
you see what I cook up. Maybe Travis will be

2304
01:51:27,760 --> 01:51:30,319
there with me. We'll see, I know, I know, you know,

2305
01:51:30,560 --> 01:51:33,800
time is limited on his h in his vein, So

2306
01:51:33,840 --> 01:51:35,479
maybe a three and a half comes out of retirement

2307
01:51:35,479 --> 01:51:39,920
to review the brew list. Yeah, no retirement, hiatus, I

2308
01:51:39,920 --> 01:51:41,159
should say, when.

2309
01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:42,039
Speaker 3: When does that movie release?

2310
01:51:43,600 --> 01:51:47,680
Speaker 2: I can't remember it's one of those Oscar Oscar movies.

2311
01:51:47,720 --> 01:51:49,680
I feel like, kind of like poor things just gonna

2312
01:51:50,239 --> 01:51:52,600
randomly be out really late, close to the Oscars. Maybe

2313
01:51:52,680 --> 01:51:58,119
it's December twentieth, twenty twenty four, oh shit, oh yeah,

2314
01:51:58,199 --> 01:51:59,680
and then the film will be released in the United

2315
01:51:59,760 --> 01:52:04,479
Kingdom January twenty fourth, twenty twenty five, by Universal. So

2316
01:52:04,600 --> 01:52:06,279
is it delayed? I don't know, it's weird, just it

2317
01:52:06,319 --> 01:52:08,319
is scheduled to be released on December twentieth. The film

2318
01:52:08,359 --> 01:52:10,640
will be released in United Kingdom on Chenery twenty four.

2319
01:52:10,720 --> 01:52:13,520
So it seems like the initial idea was the twentieth

2320
01:52:13,560 --> 01:52:16,640
and that's now it's actually being released anyway. But yeah, no,

2321
01:52:16,680 --> 01:52:20,279
it's run time three hours and thirty five minutes. Look

2322
01:52:20,319 --> 01:52:22,760
at this budget though, six to ten million dollars for

2323
01:52:22,840 --> 01:52:25,079
the budget of this film, And look how good that

2324
01:52:25,159 --> 01:52:26,079
trailer looked.

2325
01:52:25,920 --> 01:52:30,199
Speaker 1: Like, goddamn, you can have a Godzilla pop up on

2326
01:52:30,239 --> 01:52:31,399
this and it fit the.

2327
01:52:31,319 --> 01:52:35,079
Speaker 2: Budget, you could. Yeah, but not Craven, not the Sony movies,

2328
01:52:35,119 --> 01:52:39,399
not any Sony movie that's been released. Yeah. Uh, I

2329
01:52:39,399 --> 01:52:43,000
I'll tell you this snow white, not my uh, not

2330
01:52:43,079 --> 01:52:47,039
my cup of tea. Here's not a great trailer. And

2331
01:52:47,079 --> 01:52:48,600
I don't even feel like being mean to it. I

2332
01:52:48,720 --> 01:52:51,239
just that's where I'm gonna leave it. You guys, any

2333
01:52:51,239 --> 01:52:55,720
even interested in this one? Well said? Uh? I tried

2334
01:52:55,760 --> 01:52:59,199
to say as little as possible. Yeah, I don't have

2335
01:52:59,239 --> 01:53:02,600
any interest in and I never did, even even like

2336
01:53:02,640 --> 01:53:06,600
when it was first initially announced. I'm pretty I'm not

2337
01:53:06,640 --> 01:53:09,640
gonna say completely just against the idea of doing these

2338
01:53:09,680 --> 01:53:12,159
live action Disney remakes, but I've just there hasn't been

2339
01:53:12,159 --> 01:53:14,920
one that's really enticed me. Like How to Train Your

2340
01:53:14,960 --> 01:53:16,880
Dragon is the closest one, but that's also not a

2341
01:53:16,920 --> 01:53:22,359
Disney project, right that stream works. But for me, I think,

2342
01:53:22,479 --> 01:53:24,439
especially seeing this trailer, just because I haven't been really

2343
01:53:24,520 --> 01:53:28,880
focusing much on the news around this, I've been seeing

2344
01:53:29,119 --> 01:53:32,359
just people's opinions on it. Most of them have been negative,

2345
01:53:32,800 --> 01:53:35,680
and I'm not sure if that's just because people are

2346
01:53:35,720 --> 01:53:39,720
outraged for the idea of like a character, especially in

2347
01:53:39,760 --> 01:53:42,279
like a live action Disney remake. People seem to just

2348
01:53:42,319 --> 01:53:45,199
get up in arms anytime a character is not white

2349
01:53:45,239 --> 01:53:47,880
and pasty like me, you know, like, like anytime a

2350
01:53:47,960 --> 01:53:50,760
character is not like just straight up Caucasian, people seem

2351
01:53:50,800 --> 01:53:53,520
to be extremely outraged and so like coming into it,

2352
01:53:53,560 --> 01:53:56,039
I'm like, is this like a justifies outrage or is

2353
01:53:56,079 --> 01:53:58,079
it just like everything that they've seen for this movie

2354
01:53:58,119 --> 01:54:01,079
the test screens, is it really that bad? And honestly,

2355
01:54:01,119 --> 01:54:03,880
when I watch this trailer, I think it is getting

2356
01:54:03,920 --> 01:54:07,319
maybe more flack than it deserves. Like, I don't think

2357
01:54:07,359 --> 01:54:09,840
this is that atrocious of a trailer by any means.

2358
01:54:10,880 --> 01:54:14,640
I somewhat liked what I saw in certain aspects, you know,

2359
01:54:14,840 --> 01:54:18,279
I'll go so far as to say that, But I'm like,

2360
01:54:18,319 --> 01:54:20,840
I'm not even a big snow White fan to begin with,

2361
01:54:20,880 --> 01:54:24,079
like the original Disney project, Like I just definitely not

2362
01:54:24,119 --> 01:54:27,399
a Disney princess or story that I really was drawn

2363
01:54:27,439 --> 01:54:30,600
to as a kid. So yeah, I'm not interested in

2364
01:54:30,600 --> 01:54:34,760
this for very varied reasons. But I don't think this

2365
01:54:34,920 --> 01:54:37,479
is as bad as people are really setting it out

2366
01:54:37,520 --> 01:54:39,680
to be. I'm curious what it's gonna do number wise,

2367
01:54:39,760 --> 01:54:42,640
because you know, sometimes these live action Disney movies just

2368
01:54:43,640 --> 01:54:46,079
bust a big billion dollar number or something out of

2369
01:54:46,079 --> 01:54:50,840
the ying yang I think the ones. Has there been

2370
01:54:50,920 --> 01:54:52,479
multiple I have done that? Or is it just lion King.

2371
01:54:53,159 --> 01:54:54,920
I know I'm kind of throwing you guys on the

2372
01:54:54,920 --> 01:54:56,720
spot there, but just In my mind, I feel like

2373
01:54:56,720 --> 01:54:58,760
it's just kind of Lion King that's hit that big mark,

2374
01:54:58,960 --> 01:55:03,399
so anyone that I can think, yeah, yeah, but so

2375
01:55:03,439 --> 01:55:06,039
like it's got potential there. But I don't think The

2376
01:55:06,079 --> 01:55:08,319
Lion King really had a lot of negative buzz going

2377
01:55:08,319 --> 01:55:10,800
into it, Like maybe maybe it did. Maybe that was

2378
01:55:10,800 --> 01:55:16,439
also second or one of the early well, right, that

2379
01:55:16,520 --> 01:55:17,399
was an earlier one.

2380
01:55:18,279 --> 01:55:22,880
Speaker 1: Beauting the Beast made one point two million worldwide a

2381
01:55:22,920 --> 01:55:28,319
million two mm hmm, domestically five hundred million, I'm sorry,

2382
01:55:28,399 --> 01:55:29,600
one point two billion.

2383
01:55:29,880 --> 01:55:33,760
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a better number. One million is like, yikes,

2384
01:55:34,399 --> 01:55:38,680
the budget of Brutalist right there. Okay, so we got

2385
01:55:38,680 --> 01:55:43,239
one point two billion. That made a billion. That's insane, crazy, crazy,

2386
01:55:43,760 --> 01:55:47,159
different time at the box office. Absolutely Emma Watson numbers.

2387
01:55:47,199 --> 01:55:50,880
I guess that'll do it for you. But yeah, no,

2388
01:55:50,960 --> 01:55:53,399
I'm not really going to see this. I don't think

2389
01:55:54,680 --> 01:55:56,399
Mulan would have been another live, actual one that I

2390
01:55:56,439 --> 01:55:58,760
started watching and I just turned it off instantly. I'm like,

2391
01:55:58,800 --> 01:56:02,720
what the fuck is this? So that's my quick Mulan review.

2392
01:56:03,800 --> 01:56:06,640
You seen this one in theaters, Taylor. You like these movies,

2393
01:56:07,920 --> 01:56:08,279
you know what.

2394
01:56:08,319 --> 01:56:09,279
Speaker 3: I like these movies.

2395
01:56:09,319 --> 01:56:12,560
Speaker 1: But I feel like this is a movie, or I

2396
01:56:12,560 --> 01:56:14,600
should say this is rather an apple. I do not

2397
01:56:14,640 --> 01:56:17,399
want to take a bite out of I just think

2398
01:56:17,439 --> 01:56:23,239
that they've kind of just been going downhill a little bit,

2399
01:56:23,439 --> 01:56:26,439
like so forth and so forth after every everyone, And

2400
01:56:27,359 --> 01:56:28,720
I mean that Cinderella one.

2401
01:56:28,720 --> 01:56:30,600
Speaker 3: I really liked the live action Cinderella. I can't remember.

2402
01:56:30,600 --> 01:56:32,119
I should have looked and see if that was actually

2403
01:56:32,159 --> 01:56:35,159
a billion dollars, but I like, I like that one.

2404
01:56:35,239 --> 01:56:35,840
Speaker 2: Is that recent?

2405
01:56:36,640 --> 01:56:39,920
Speaker 1: That was one of the earlier ones around Beauty the

2406
01:56:39,960 --> 01:56:41,159
Beast time and Beauty the Beast.

2407
01:56:41,239 --> 01:56:43,039
Speaker 3: I like that one in live action. That was a

2408
01:56:43,039 --> 01:56:43,600
lot of fun.

2409
01:56:44,520 --> 01:56:45,359
Speaker 2: Twenty fifteen.

2410
01:56:46,079 --> 01:56:50,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, The Beauty Beast was twenty seventeen, Okay, that had

2411
01:56:50,319 --> 01:56:52,840
Rob Stark in it as the Prince.

2412
01:56:53,079 --> 01:56:56,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, like an Icarus, Yeah the hell Kate's in here,

2413
01:56:57,199 --> 01:56:59,319
Hell on a bottom, Carter Girl.

2414
01:56:59,479 --> 01:57:03,159
Speaker 3: It's a great movie IDAs.

2415
01:57:02,600 --> 01:57:03,720
Speaker 2: Lily James remember that.

2416
01:57:04,800 --> 01:57:07,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, I just feel like they are just going

2417
01:57:07,560 --> 01:57:08,960
on this downwards jectory.

2418
01:57:09,000 --> 01:57:09,840
Speaker 3: And Little Mermaid.

2419
01:57:09,880 --> 01:57:11,960
Speaker 1: While I enjoyed some of the songs, Aladdin or Aladdin

2420
01:57:12,000 --> 01:57:14,279
probably was a was that a billion that? I feel

2421
01:57:14,279 --> 01:57:16,000
like that came out close to when the line King

2422
01:57:16,119 --> 01:57:19,319
came out. Someone fact checked that for me.

2423
01:57:19,520 --> 01:57:22,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, just checking right now. Cinderell's box office globally was

2424
01:57:22,840 --> 01:57:25,119
around the five and ared million mark, like okay, and

2425
01:57:25,159 --> 01:57:25,920
all of a sudden.

2426
01:57:26,079 --> 01:57:27,880
Speaker 3: That's about what a Little Mermaid had done.

2427
01:57:28,359 --> 01:57:31,359
Speaker 2: Five Yeah Aladdin, Yeah, Aladdin was over a billion.

2428
01:57:31,319 --> 01:57:34,479
Speaker 1: Over billion, okay, yeah, Aladdin. I freaking love that Latin

2429
01:57:34,479 --> 01:57:34,960
action movie.

2430
01:57:34,960 --> 01:57:37,760
Speaker 3: That was great. So here we are you have Little Mermaid,

2431
01:57:37,840 --> 01:57:41,319
which it was, it was good.

2432
01:57:41,359 --> 01:57:45,119
Speaker 1: I love getting the like those original songs, and then

2433
01:57:46,159 --> 01:57:51,279
Melissa McCarthy as Ursula was fantastic. And I think Ali

2434
01:57:51,359 --> 01:57:54,880
Berry as Ariel, she did grace. She's got an amazing

2435
01:57:55,000 --> 01:57:58,199
voice for those singing songs and whatnot. So I enjoyed

2436
01:57:58,199 --> 01:58:01,439
that a lot. But the thing that I have, it's

2437
01:58:01,520 --> 01:58:04,319
just my biggest con with these adaptations is they try

2438
01:58:04,359 --> 01:58:06,720
to do their own original songs, and that's my biggest

2439
01:58:06,720 --> 01:58:09,520
comm with Aladdin. But I just don't like when they

2440
01:58:10,520 --> 01:58:12,840
do a new song or something like that.

2441
01:58:12,880 --> 01:58:14,520
Speaker 3: And they throw it in there. It just really pulls

2442
01:58:14,560 --> 01:58:14,920
me out.

2443
01:58:15,159 --> 01:58:18,039
Speaker 2: And so it's also never the good song out of

2444
01:58:18,039 --> 01:58:20,079
those movies, right like the movies that are sorry, the

2445
01:58:20,079 --> 01:58:21,640
songs that you enjoy out of the live actual remakes

2446
01:58:21,680 --> 01:58:24,000
are never the new original ones. It's always like a

2447
01:58:24,039 --> 01:58:26,239
whole new world from the case of Aladdin, right, like

2448
01:58:26,239 --> 01:58:29,000
like the ones that they just are recapturing. So yeah,

2449
01:58:29,079 --> 01:58:32,159
I agree with you. I feel like they're usually duds,

2450
01:58:33,239 --> 01:58:35,399
and it seems like to the composers and the people

2451
01:58:35,399 --> 01:58:37,439
that work on it, you know, but it feels like

2452
01:58:37,479 --> 01:58:38,960
that in comparison, it.

2453
01:58:38,960 --> 01:58:41,079
Speaker 1: Seems like they're going to be doing exactly the same

2454
01:58:41,119 --> 01:58:43,920
thing with snow White because in the trailer there was

2455
01:58:43,960 --> 01:58:47,000
a couple moments where it seems like, oh, it's another

2456
01:58:47,079 --> 01:58:47,880
original song.

2457
01:58:47,960 --> 01:58:48,920
Speaker 3: Okay, here we go.

2458
01:58:49,520 --> 01:58:54,039
Speaker 1: And the downside is just I'm not a big fan

2459
01:58:54,159 --> 01:58:56,760
of this character kind of going back and trying to

2460
01:58:56,760 --> 01:58:58,479
like fight the Evil Queen and like, oh, I'm here

2461
01:58:58,479 --> 01:59:00,560
with the people. We're gonna take back our kingdom. Yeah yeah,

2462
01:59:00,640 --> 01:59:03,880
yeahda I I don't need to see that. That's just

2463
01:59:04,119 --> 01:59:07,119
filler for me for like half an hour of on

2464
01:59:07,319 --> 01:59:11,159
screen stuff, Like I just want to see her just

2465
01:59:11,199 --> 01:59:14,600
with the dwarfs doing her thing, and then you know,

2466
01:59:15,000 --> 01:59:17,880
Evil Queen with gal Gadot looks fantastic. Is the Evil Queen?

2467
01:59:18,039 --> 01:59:19,640
I know people are kind of mocking her with the

2468
01:59:19,680 --> 01:59:23,800
Batman Keaton neck Batman Cowell, but I think that she

2469
01:59:23,960 --> 01:59:26,000
looks fantastic.

2470
01:59:27,319 --> 01:59:28,920
Speaker 2: Like her like waking up upside down.

2471
01:59:29,279 --> 01:59:30,079
Speaker 3: Well, it's like her.

2472
01:59:30,079 --> 01:59:31,920
Speaker 1: Turning her head and she has to turn her whole

2473
01:59:31,960 --> 01:59:35,319
body to like move her head, like it's really funny.

2474
01:59:35,640 --> 01:59:36,720
Speaker 2: People have pointed that out.

2475
01:59:36,880 --> 01:59:39,720
Speaker 3: So yeah, I just think though that I this movie's

2476
01:59:39,720 --> 01:59:41,359
probably not going to do too well, and.

2477
01:59:43,239 --> 01:59:46,159
Speaker 2: I'm going to bring this up Little Mermaid box office.

2478
01:59:46,560 --> 01:59:50,279
So apparently worldwide it grows over five hundred and sixty

2479
01:59:50,359 --> 01:59:52,359
nine million dollars. Is that higher or lower than you

2480
01:59:52,399 --> 01:59:54,359
would have expected her Little Mermaid? Because for me, that's

2481
01:59:54,439 --> 01:59:56,359
much higher. Actually, I think I thought there was a

2482
01:59:56,439 --> 01:59:59,039
lot of negative just talk it's lower for you.

2483
01:59:59,439 --> 02:00:00,840
Speaker 3: I thought it would do higher.

2484
02:00:00,960 --> 02:00:03,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was trying to just find a

2485
02:00:03,840 --> 02:00:05,279
couple other ones. I brought up the Dumbo.

2486
02:00:05,800 --> 02:00:10,359
Speaker 3: Uh, that's probably two to three hundred, three hundred.

2487
02:00:10,119 --> 02:00:13,680
Speaker 2: And fifty three million worldwide. The budget was one seventy

2488
02:00:14,119 --> 02:00:15,920
you know, it's not like it's not like it doubled it,

2489
02:00:16,000 --> 02:00:18,439
but at least it's not breaking even. I feel like

2490
02:00:18,479 --> 02:00:21,640
that was maybe the least talked about one, So those

2491
02:00:21,720 --> 02:00:24,000
numbers don't surprise me too much. But yeah, for Little Mermaid,

2492
02:00:24,039 --> 02:00:26,000
I feel like I was expected to be a little

2493
02:00:26,000 --> 02:00:28,920
bit lower just because Yeah, I guess, just talk around

2494
02:00:29,119 --> 02:00:32,239
my social circles. Not a lot of people were interested

2495
02:00:32,239 --> 02:00:34,159
in it, But I agree with you. When I did

2496
02:00:34,319 --> 02:00:36,600
eventually see that on Disney, I liked it more than

2497
02:00:36,640 --> 02:00:40,079
I thought. Like I liked Melissa McCarthy as as Ursula.

2498
02:00:41,680 --> 02:00:44,720
I hated that they didn't have the dog though, right, I.

2499
02:00:44,800 --> 02:00:46,600
Speaker 3: Was just trying to remember if they had the dog not.

2500
02:00:46,760 --> 02:00:49,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that character from the from the original.

2501
02:00:50,199 --> 02:00:53,279
Speaker 3: Oh and they asked the French chef too, Louis. Oh,

2502
02:00:53,399 --> 02:00:54,359
those bastards.

2503
02:00:54,520 --> 02:00:56,720
Speaker 1: I love that French chef with this whole singing like

2504
02:00:56,920 --> 02:00:59,199
song thing. That's something I was super gung ho for.

2505
02:00:59,359 --> 02:01:01,279
Speaker 3: And they asked it. I don't know why. Maybe it's

2506
02:01:01,319 --> 02:01:05,960
politically incorrect. I don't care. Like I was, I'm French

2507
02:01:06,039 --> 02:01:08,840
and the guy was cooking in the kitchen, singing.

2508
02:01:15,199 --> 02:01:15,760
Speaker 2: So good.

2509
02:01:16,199 --> 02:01:17,359
Speaker 3: I can't believe they took it out.

2510
02:01:18,600 --> 02:01:24,239
Speaker 2: I'm officially gone off. I was not expecting that that

2511
02:01:24,399 --> 02:01:30,520
was nice. We're too next, there's nowhere left to go,

2512
02:01:30,720 --> 02:01:31,439
But what if.

2513
02:01:34,680 --> 02:01:35,199
Speaker 3: Take us there?

2514
02:01:36,399 --> 02:01:39,840
Speaker 2: I will take us there. I don't really like what

2515
02:01:40,000 --> 02:01:43,000
if that much in this trailer didn't really do much

2516
02:01:43,119 --> 02:01:45,640
to change my mind on that. There are some interesting

2517
02:01:45,720 --> 02:01:47,359
things with this, though. One is like, I think half

2518
02:01:47,439 --> 02:01:50,279
this trailers shots from the first two seasons, and they're

2519
02:01:50,800 --> 02:01:54,079
I mean half the trailers like rewatch season one and

2520
02:01:54,199 --> 02:01:58,000
two and get Ready for Season three. And I think

2521
02:01:58,039 --> 02:02:00,840
the weirdest thing at all in total for me is

2522
02:02:00,920 --> 02:02:03,359
just that they're really pitching this as like this is

2523
02:02:03,439 --> 02:02:06,760
the conclusion of a trilogy of what If, which I

2524
02:02:06,800 --> 02:02:11,439
feel like no TV show ever really frames it that way,

2525
02:02:12,319 --> 02:02:13,680
And I don't know, maybe they're just trying to make

2526
02:02:13,720 --> 02:02:15,399
this seem like a bigger deal than it is. But

2527
02:02:15,520 --> 02:02:18,239
to me, I don't really feel like there were some

2528
02:02:18,439 --> 02:02:20,800
narrative through lines from what If, but I didn't really

2529
02:02:20,840 --> 02:02:23,720
feel like we were building towards this big third act

2530
02:02:23,840 --> 02:02:27,279
trilogy season thing. So I don't know. It's probably just

2531
02:02:27,359 --> 02:02:30,199
like marketing speak and trying to get people interested in this,

2532
02:02:30,640 --> 02:02:32,319
But I also feel like this maybe a risky route

2533
02:02:32,359 --> 02:02:34,560
for people who haven't watched the other seasons. I feel

2534
02:02:34,600 --> 02:02:36,920
like the best way to go is like, here's some weird, interesting,

2535
02:02:37,000 --> 02:02:39,680
cool concept, and if you're a Marvel fan, you want

2536
02:02:39,720 --> 02:02:41,520
to see what that is. I don't think people really

2537
02:02:41,560 --> 02:02:44,640
care about the overall through line, like the diehard fans, sure,

2538
02:02:44,680 --> 02:02:46,880
but they're already gonna be there, so I don't know.

2539
02:02:46,960 --> 02:02:48,680
It just seemed like a weird trailer for me in

2540
02:02:49,039 --> 02:02:51,359
that way, and I feel like it was mostly just

2541
02:02:51,399 --> 02:02:53,840
like a very quick little clips of like, oh, that's

2542
02:02:53,840 --> 02:02:55,800
an interesting thing, but I'm not really getting an idea

2543
02:02:55,800 --> 02:02:57,960
of like what any of these episodes are gonna be,

2544
02:02:58,079 --> 02:03:01,840
or like is this gonna be one long season that's

2545
02:03:01,920 --> 02:03:04,239
building towards this finale. It's actually more of a connected

2546
02:03:04,279 --> 02:03:07,159
season than the other ones. I don't know, so I left.

2547
02:03:07,239 --> 02:03:09,000
I'm let a little confused. Where there are a couple

2548
02:03:09,000 --> 02:03:11,680
of highlights, like I mean, I saw my Boe Mysterio

2549
02:03:11,800 --> 02:03:14,359
in there, and I like that is Jake jillen All

2550
02:03:14,399 --> 02:03:16,880
coming back absolutely not to voice that character, but I'm

2551
02:03:17,000 --> 02:03:20,479
I'm I'm excited to see Mysterio storm Rock in that

2552
02:03:20,600 --> 02:03:22,640
suit and having like me on near in one scene

2553
02:03:22,680 --> 02:03:24,800
like that seems really cool. I'm excited to see what's

2554
02:03:24,800 --> 02:03:27,279
going on there. And then like it's kind of goofy,

2555
02:03:27,359 --> 02:03:29,680
but I like the Avenger Assemble thing and they have

2556
02:03:29,800 --> 02:03:32,880
like a huge mech Hiju bought. That's like all I

2557
02:03:32,920 --> 02:03:35,520
guess all the Avengers are like, you know, Exodia in it,

2558
02:03:35,600 --> 02:03:38,199
and they're like, I'm controlling the leg I'm controlling the arm,

2559
02:03:38,319 --> 02:03:41,159
I'm controlling the laser beam. So it seems like goofy

2560
02:03:41,239 --> 02:03:43,960
and silly. But I you know, I'll watch this because

2561
02:03:43,960 --> 02:03:46,239
I watch all MCU things except for I haven't seen

2562
02:03:46,279 --> 02:03:49,000
the rest of Agatha yet, but I'm not really that

2563
02:03:49,560 --> 02:03:54,199
excited for it, unfortunately. Yeah that's fair. Yeah, this trailer

2564
02:03:54,279 --> 02:03:57,800
really didn't do too much over kind of what I've

2565
02:03:57,800 --> 02:04:01,319
already set up. I I do think this is gonna

2566
02:04:01,319 --> 02:04:06,439
be the most I want to say, like linear. I

2567
02:04:06,520 --> 02:04:08,479
guess see when he compared all the other ones, like, yeah,

2568
02:04:08,680 --> 02:04:10,840
like the ones that it's really is setting up to

2569
02:04:10,920 --> 02:04:13,720
the finale kind of what you're speculating about there, Dylan,

2570
02:04:13,840 --> 02:04:15,319
I do think that it's gonna be the case, just

2571
02:04:15,359 --> 02:04:17,159
because we're setting up for the family, like we don't

2572
02:04:17,159 --> 02:04:19,600
really have time to mess around with some random adventure

2573
02:04:19,640 --> 02:04:22,079
that doesn't it isn't connected to anything because they've already

2574
02:04:22,119 --> 02:04:27,239
been kind of setting up those those seeds. And yeah,

2575
02:04:27,279 --> 02:04:29,399
I don't think this it's funny because this is like

2576
02:04:29,439 --> 02:04:32,039
trailer number two. It felt like trailer like one point

2577
02:04:32,119 --> 02:04:34,399
five you know, or like like I didn't feel like

2578
02:04:34,439 --> 02:04:36,880
I got a whole lot more than what I've already seen.

2579
02:04:37,640 --> 02:04:39,800
I liked what I saw. I do like what if?

2580
02:04:39,880 --> 02:04:43,039
And I like these just what if scenarios that we have. Yeah,

2581
02:04:43,159 --> 02:04:45,960
like the Vultron Assemble thing that they have there that

2582
02:04:46,760 --> 02:04:50,000
I'm looking forward to that. So everything I saw I

2583
02:04:50,439 --> 02:04:52,520
did like, But it was just it wasn't like a

2584
02:04:52,600 --> 02:04:54,640
really engaging trader in the sense of like, man, this

2585
02:04:54,760 --> 02:04:56,920
sold me on the show. Like, no, I'm already gonna

2586
02:04:56,920 --> 02:04:58,640
be there, like I was there last year. You know.

2587
02:05:00,079 --> 02:05:03,399
I think they're still doing the daily releases how they

2588
02:05:03,439 --> 02:05:06,399
did last year, like around Christmas, starting on maybe the twentieth.

2589
02:05:07,840 --> 02:05:10,159
I believe when we were talking about the first trailer

2590
02:05:10,159 --> 02:05:12,359
that it was the case. But yeah, then we'll confirm there.

2591
02:05:12,479 --> 02:05:15,840
But uh, yeah, I'm gonna be there. I'm liking what

2592
02:05:15,920 --> 02:05:18,119
I'm seeing. But in terms of trailers, you know, just

2593
02:05:18,199 --> 02:05:22,479
judging it as a trailer, you're right, daily releases as

2594
02:05:22,800 --> 02:05:25,359
well as well as last season. Yeah, and starting when

2595
02:05:25,520 --> 02:05:30,640
was that December the twenty second? Okay, Tuesday, No, that's

2596
02:05:31,279 --> 02:05:35,279
that's Sunday. I can't remember. I think Christmas on a Wednesday.

2597
02:05:35,119 --> 02:05:36,560
Speaker 3: It's Christmas Wednesday.

2598
02:05:36,640 --> 02:05:42,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there you go. That is a Sunday Sunday Sunday.

2599
02:05:46,079 --> 02:05:48,560
He's ready for season or three.

2600
02:05:49,640 --> 02:05:52,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm looking forward to this. I mean, it's

2601
02:05:52,079 --> 02:05:56,279
the close out, and the trailer got me pumped. But

2602
02:05:56,680 --> 02:05:59,079
I mean, you guys have already said I didn't feel

2603
02:05:59,079 --> 02:06:02,039
like there was anything really major knew that was really

2604
02:06:02,119 --> 02:06:04,039
being featured here that we haven't seen or can kind

2605
02:06:04,079 --> 02:06:08,439
of anticipate going in, like obviously with Storm the Goddess

2606
02:06:08,479 --> 02:06:10,600
of Thunder and that sort of stuff, so we know

2607
02:06:10,760 --> 02:06:13,560
certain things are going to be happening and some certain storylines.

2608
02:06:13,600 --> 02:06:16,000
Speaker 3: But that makes I'm excited. I like the what ifs

2609
02:06:16,039 --> 02:06:17,000
and I like what we're getting.

2610
02:06:17,560 --> 02:06:21,039
Speaker 1: Ah, It'll be cool to see how this is going

2611
02:06:21,079 --> 02:06:24,760
to kind of close off and tie together, especially after

2612
02:06:24,880 --> 02:06:28,000
we have some reoccurring characters that we have seen before,

2613
02:06:28,119 --> 02:06:30,600
and just what's gonna happen with the Watcher here and

2614
02:06:31,319 --> 02:06:34,399
ultimately what will be the Watcher's fate. I'd love to

2615
02:06:34,520 --> 02:06:37,159
see him kind of have a good send off and

2616
02:06:37,560 --> 02:06:41,199
maybe even make an appearance in the actual MCU at

2617
02:06:41,239 --> 02:06:43,600
some point, which I mean he's appeared in X Men,

2618
02:06:44,399 --> 02:06:48,000
the animated series and I feel like maybe we got

2619
02:06:48,079 --> 02:06:52,560
like a glimpse of something in DEADPLO Wolverine.

2620
02:06:52,600 --> 02:06:53,600
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm just imagined that.

2621
02:06:55,399 --> 02:06:58,079
Speaker 2: Is it probably is my fan at it X men

2622
02:06:58,439 --> 02:07:01,840
right X menton ninety seven? Is that what it was?

2623
02:07:02,680 --> 02:07:06,560
Speaker 3: That was actually ninety seven? Yeah, gosh, I don't have those,

2624
02:07:07,399 --> 02:07:07,920
I know, I was.

2625
02:07:07,960 --> 02:07:09,039
Speaker 2: Looking for the one.

2626
02:07:09,199 --> 02:07:11,359
Speaker 3: I think it was Howkeye right, you made a bunch

2627
02:07:11,840 --> 02:07:15,319
it was, Yeah, Travis probably just deleted them all. Shit.

2628
02:07:15,439 --> 02:07:17,079
It was like in the urinal and he's like in

2629
02:07:17,119 --> 02:07:17,640
the corner.

2630
02:07:17,840 --> 02:07:20,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, to make some more of that.

2631
02:07:21,600 --> 02:07:22,479
Speaker 3: M yeah.

2632
02:07:22,520 --> 02:07:26,199
Speaker 1: No, I'm looking forward to it. In terms of ranking,

2633
02:07:26,600 --> 02:07:31,920
I would probably go I go twenty eight years later

2634
02:07:32,039 --> 02:07:32,880
as my number one.

2635
02:07:34,159 --> 02:07:38,279
Speaker 3: I'd go what if season three number two.

2636
02:07:40,399 --> 02:07:42,439
Speaker 1: And that's more or less because it's my anticipation and

2637
02:07:42,560 --> 02:07:45,279
excitement more so than the trailer, And I would go

2638
02:07:46,039 --> 02:07:48,920
Gorge brutalist and then snow White.

2639
02:07:50,680 --> 02:07:53,319
Speaker 2: I have a similar similar ranking. I'm gonna go twenty

2640
02:07:53,359 --> 02:07:57,920
eight weeks number one, Gorge number two, brutalist, number three,

2641
02:07:58,239 --> 02:08:01,840
what if season three number four were? And snow White,

2642
02:08:02,560 --> 02:08:05,359
like way way down there at the very at the

2643
02:08:05,479 --> 02:08:08,840
very bottom of that gorge of the gorge, Yeah, where

2644
02:08:08,880 --> 02:08:12,399
Anya is? Yeah, I'm gonna go my number one being

2645
02:08:12,439 --> 02:08:18,239
the brutalist. That one really surprised me. Number two, let's

2646
02:08:18,279 --> 02:08:20,640
go twenty eight years later. It's funny, I feel like

2647
02:08:20,680 --> 02:08:23,159
my number one is such in a different caliber. It's like, Okay,

2648
02:08:23,199 --> 02:08:25,399
the brutalist is my list. And then if I have

2649
02:08:25,680 --> 02:08:30,079
to shouts out to shouts out to Maddie SAgs, you know,

2650
02:08:30,119 --> 02:08:33,479
I gotta do the classic Maddie question, so I will

2651
02:08:33,600 --> 02:08:36,840
rank them. But still it's pretty much just brutalist. Everything

2652
02:08:36,880 --> 02:08:40,319
else pretty meh. But for you, Maddie, I'm gonna go

2653
02:08:40,399 --> 02:08:50,960
twenty eight years later. He's really thinking on it, scratching

2654
02:08:51,000 --> 02:08:53,840
that nog and trying to come up with some answers. Yeah,

2655
02:08:53,920 --> 02:08:56,840
it's hard to rank these the stakes are so high.

2656
02:08:57,279 --> 02:08:59,119
Oh no, I was like talking for so long too,

2657
02:08:59,159 --> 02:09:01,000
and I realized I was just I'm like, oh, we

2658
02:09:01,079 --> 02:09:04,880
heard you put twenty eight years later at number two. Okay, perfect.

2659
02:09:05,079 --> 02:09:06,880
And then my Internet must have crapped out because of

2660
02:09:06,920 --> 02:09:09,520
what I said. I said snow White. Next, Oh, yeah,

2661
02:09:09,600 --> 02:09:11,760
that's why you're trying to get canceled by the Internet.

2662
02:09:11,840 --> 02:09:17,840
And then what if and then the gorge at the

2663
02:09:17,840 --> 02:09:23,239
bottom of the gorge, Yeah, goddamn truly terrible trailer. Very

2664
02:09:23,279 --> 02:09:25,520
different ranking than me and Taylor. I respect it, though

2665
02:09:25,880 --> 02:09:26,399
very different.

2666
02:09:27,319 --> 02:09:31,079
Speaker 1: All right, well, ladies and gentlemen, there you have it,

2667
02:09:31,479 --> 02:09:35,800
our latest and greatest GV six four to two news

2668
02:09:35,840 --> 02:09:39,159
episode in the books. We will be back with more

2669
02:09:39,159 --> 02:09:43,039
reviews this week. Tons tons of stuff, stuff, so just

2670
02:09:43,119 --> 02:09:45,560
tune into our feeds to find it all. But until

2671
02:09:45,640 --> 02:09:47,359
next summer one, thank you for tuning in, and we'll

2672
02:09:47,399 --> 02:09:48,800
see you in the search bar.

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Speaker 2: Bye bye, guys.