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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Big Blue and sider Dick Gabriel with

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<v Speaker 1>you on a Thursday edition of our program. This is

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a special edition, I like to think, because

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<v Speaker 1>it will be you know, baseball, football, basketball, But a

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<v Speaker 1>good deal of our program here in the first hour

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<v Speaker 1>will involve Rich Brooks, and I bring him up because

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<v Speaker 1>he is going to be the celebrity monologist. If you will,

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<v Speaker 1>he will open our broadcast, our radio broadcast on Saturday

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<v Speaker 1>afternoon Saturday evening as the Wildcats take on the Georgia Bulldogs.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you've missed our first couple of broadcasts, we

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<v Speaker 1>forgive you, but come on back. Maybe if you're in

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<v Speaker 1>the parking lot or if you're at home, you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to watch the game on TV. Keep the radio handy,

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<v Speaker 1>keep the phone handy, listen on the iHeartMedia app. Because

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<v Speaker 1>we have had first Bill Ransdell for the opener since

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<v Speaker 1>it's the fortieth anniversary of the nineteen eighty four team

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<v Speaker 1>to Bill quarterback to the Hall of Fame Bowl. And

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<v Speaker 1>then last week we had Jojo Kemp open the broadcast

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<v Speaker 1>such as it was terrible game obviously, but Jojo talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the year or the game ten years ago when

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<v Speaker 1>he ran wild over South Carolina. So with Georgia coming up,

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<v Speaker 1>you know how tough it is to beat those Bulldogs

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<v Speaker 1>of late well, and rich Brooks was here. His team's

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<v Speaker 1>got two wins over the Bulldogs, one in Lexingon one

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<v Speaker 1>in Athens. So rich Brooks will take us back to

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<v Speaker 1>those games. But I also had a chance to chat

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<v Speaker 1>with him just about his time here. The wins over

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<v Speaker 1>the Bulldogs. That's coming up at the bottom of this hour.

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<v Speaker 1>But we will also relive the highlights because you might

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<v Speaker 1>recall if you were there or watching on the tube

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<v Speaker 1>where you've seen the highlights. That was the first goalpost game.

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky needed a win there. Kentucky had of course been

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<v Speaker 1>blown out by LSU after an open date, ground out

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<v Speaker 1>a win at Mississippi State, which wasn't easy, and then

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<v Speaker 1>pulled off the upset win over the Bulldogs. Not the

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<v Speaker 1>greatest Georgia team, but still pretty good. Matthew Stafford was

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<v Speaker 1>the freshman quarterback the Wildcats won it, which put Kentucky

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<v Speaker 1>into a Bowl game. That was win number six. What

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<v Speaker 1>a breakthrough for rich Brooks, who a year prior looked

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<v Speaker 1>like he wasn't going to survive. Then after another one

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<v Speaker 1>over Vandy. They get seven wins, and they go to

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<v Speaker 1>the Music City Bowl where they pulled off an upset

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<v Speaker 1>over a Clemson team that was probably better than Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was a great happy time for Kentucky football.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll take a deeper dive on that coming up

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<v Speaker 1>in our next segment. Well, we'll talk about the highlights.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll hear the highlights from a documentary I produced called Believe,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we'll hear from Rich Brooks coming up at

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom of the hour. Also in our next hour,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk about Tim Koutch quite a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Mileham from WKYT will join us. Brian spent many

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<v Speaker 1>many years working in Eastern Kentucky for WYMT as the

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<v Speaker 1>sports director before moving to lexit in full time and

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<v Speaker 1>now he's the sports director at KYT. But Brian and

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<v Speaker 1>I will talk about the legacy of Tim Couch is

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<v Speaker 1>going into the College Football Hall of Fame in December

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll be honored this weekend at Kroger Field, and

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<v Speaker 1>on hand to do some of the honoring. To lead

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<v Speaker 1>the way will be Matthew Sein, who is the Chief

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<v Speaker 1>operating Officer of the National Football Foundation and the College

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<v Speaker 1>Football Hall of Fame, which is actually in Atlanta, and

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<v Speaker 1>I have not yet gone. I need to put that

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<v Speaker 1>on my bucket list. I really want to make that visit,

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<v Speaker 1>but the actual ceremonies in Las Vegas. But Matthew will

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<v Speaker 1>be here over the weekend to help honor Tim Couch

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<v Speaker 1>and we had a chance to chat with Himseley. You

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<v Speaker 1>hear my conversation with Matthew coming up in our number two.

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<v Speaker 1>So a lot of football talk in this program, with

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of specialized football talk, if you will. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be tough, first of all, to bounce

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<v Speaker 1>back from South Carolina. Tougher I think for fans and media.

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<v Speaker 1>I've talked about that this week. But kids are more

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<v Speaker 1>resilient and they have to be because during practice, once

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<v Speaker 1>they look at the video of South Carolina, they got

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<v Speaker 1>to move forward. They got to study video of Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>They got to figure out how to stop the Bulldogs,

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<v Speaker 1>how to compete, and it ain't going to be easy.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that this Georgia team is as good

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<v Speaker 1>as the last two or three that Kirby Smartest had,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's pretty damn good. And Brad White, the defensive

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<v Speaker 1>coordinator knows what's coming at the Wildcats, starting with Carson Beck.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not just a game manager. This is a guy

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<v Speaker 1>who can make plays, extend plays, and put the football

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<v Speaker 1>where it needs to be.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not just Carson Beck. It's a really good offensive line.

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<v Speaker 2>It's talented fast receivers, talented tight ends, running backs that

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<v Speaker 2>will run through and buy you. So yes, Carson directs

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<v Speaker 2>the ship and he is as talented as a quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>as there is in the country. He's going to throw

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<v Speaker 2>in complete balls like that. That's just the reality of it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And they've they've been doing it as an

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<v Speaker 2>offense for a lot of years now.

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<v Speaker 1>We mentioned that more than once that Georgia has had

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<v Speaker 1>great players for quite a while, just missing out on

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<v Speaker 1>national championship runs really since the herschel Walker days until

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<v Speaker 1>Kirby Smart got there and got them just passed those

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<v Speaker 1>teams that kept beating them out for national titles, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, particularly Alabama. So Georgia became the King of

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<v Speaker 1>Hill though it lost last year. But Kirby Smart had

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<v Speaker 1>picked up on where Mark Rick had left off with recruiting.

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<v Speaker 1>What a great fertile recruiting area. But they have great

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<v Speaker 1>success going outside the state of Georgia as well. And

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<v Speaker 1>when you look at that roster, man, are they talented.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why Brock Vandergriff had to transfer. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 1>guy was a five star recruit a quarterback and just

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<v Speaker 1>could not beat out first Detson Bennett and then Carson Beck.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the life for quarterbacks. When you sign up

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<v Speaker 1>to play quarterback, you know there's only going to be

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<v Speaker 1>one starter. There's going to be one guy at the

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<v Speaker 1>head of the room, the quarterbacks room, getting all the

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<v Speaker 1>attention and getting most of the reps in practice. So

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<v Speaker 1>Vandergriff transfers to Kentucky. You cannot judge him yet part

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<v Speaker 1>of a game against an inferior Southern misteam and then

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<v Speaker 1>a terrible game against South Carolina, which you know he

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<v Speaker 1>was running for his life, but he never blamed his

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<v Speaker 1>old line. He said the old line was fine. He

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<v Speaker 1>took all the blame and that was admirable, but not

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<v Speaker 1>accurate Anyhow, I can't imagine his knowledge of the Georgia

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<v Speaker 1>playbook will come into place much for the Wildcats. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>tendencies with certain athletes, but he's still friends with so

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<v Speaker 1>many of them, and he was telling reporters Wednesday afternoon

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<v Speaker 1>that he has remained in group chats with a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of guys and talked about how competitive he and his

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<v Speaker 1>former teammates were when he was there. He would team up,

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<v Speaker 1>evidently with Brock Bowers, the former tight end who's now

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL, and they would take on Jazz Chambliss,

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<v Speaker 1>a linebacker and Cash Jones, a running back. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was the be guys against the Sea guys and all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of different competitions.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like the Bees versus Seas. That was how

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<v Speaker 3>we did everything. So it was me and Brock first,

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<v Speaker 3>Cash and Chazz and literally everything we did and the

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<v Speaker 3>final tally record, I think the Bees had got the

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<v Speaker 3>best of the Seas. But I mean it was cornhole, pool,

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<v Speaker 3>ping pong, pickle ball, We had fishing tournaments, just everything,

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<v Speaker 3>And I mean we're just where me and Me and

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<v Speaker 3>Bowers are out there to win.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, you got to be. They're all going to be

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<v Speaker 1>out there to win on Saturday. But it will be

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<v Speaker 1>a tall order for the Wildcats. You'll hear it right

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<v Speaker 1>here on six thirty WLAP five thirty pre game of Christy,

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<v Speaker 1>Jeremy and Logan seven thirty kickoff with Tom jeff and

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<v Speaker 1>yours truly. Speaking of Brock Bowers, he now plays had

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<v Speaker 1>you lost track of him? He now play for the

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<v Speaker 1>Las Vegas Raiders, who were losers to the Chargers in

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<v Speaker 1>their opener. Behind Gardner Minshew the quarterback. He threw for

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and fifty seven yards, and guess who his

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<v Speaker 1>favorite receiver was? Rock Bowers the tight end. That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Targeted eight times among what nine or ten different receivers,

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<v Speaker 1>made six catches for only fifty eight yards. That's almost

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<v Speaker 1>ten yards per catch. Didn't have any touchdowns, but did

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<v Speaker 1>have a long of what twenty six yards? And I

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<v Speaker 1>think on that catch he had like sixteen yak yards.

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<v Speaker 1>So Bowers may maybe be a good pickup on a

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<v Speaker 1>fantasy team. I double checked because the Bills and Dolphins

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<v Speaker 1>are playing tonight. Ray Davis had I thought a decent

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<v Speaker 1>debut for Buffalo in the win last week. He carried

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<v Speaker 1>the ball once four No, I'm sorry, he carried them

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<v Speaker 1>ball three times for only thirteen yards, but they all

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<v Speaker 1>came on one play. About that, no gain on two plays,

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<v Speaker 1>but thirteen yards on another. So that had to get

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<v Speaker 1>Bills fans excited and don't forget to check in when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to the passing game, as Josh Allen had

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<v Speaker 1>a huge game. But Ray made one catch, but that

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<v Speaker 1>was for fourteen yards, so again and twelve of those

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<v Speaker 1>yack yards, so that had to be exciting for Bills fans.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's a backup, they know this, but that was

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<v Speaker 1>a tight game. Every time you touch the ball in

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<v Speaker 1>a game like that. They beat the Cardinals thirty four

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<v Speaker 1>to twenty eight. So every time you touch the bar

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<v Speaker 1>in a game like that, it's important, obviously, and Ray

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<v Speaker 1>Davis had a good one. So switching over to college football,

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<v Speaker 1>the Pack twelve lives apparently or trying to come back

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<v Speaker 1>to life. The news coming today that four schools will

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<v Speaker 1>join the quote unquote Pack twelve or what's left of

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<v Speaker 1>it for the twenty twenty six twenty seven season Boise State,

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<v Speaker 1>Colorado State, San Diego State, and Fresno State. Those are

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<v Speaker 1>credible football schools and a little basketball mixed in as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, the only Packed twelve schools it still exists

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<v Speaker 1>in existence are Oregon State and Washington State, but apparently

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<v Speaker 1>they're working on bringing it back, and a tip of

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<v Speaker 1>the cap to them. The Pac twelve never should have

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<v Speaker 1>died and it was mismanaged into the ground. Schools were

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<v Speaker 1>bleeding money, which is why they left. And it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to happen. A couple of commissioners mishandled things and

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I went by the wayside. So they're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to bring it back all right. Up next Kentucky Georgia

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<v Speaker 1>from back in the Day, two wins on six point

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<v Speaker 1>thirty wlap. Welcome back to the Big Blue and Cider

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<v Speaker 1>on this Georgia week. Coming up next, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>hear from Rich Brooks, the former UK head coach. He

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<v Speaker 1>knows what it takes to beat the Georgia Bulldogs because

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<v Speaker 1>his teams did it better in the aughts. Now that

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<v Speaker 1>was before the Dogs that hit their full stride, winning

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<v Speaker 1>national titles as they have under Kirby Smart. But still

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<v Speaker 1>winning here in Lexington and then down at Georgia. It

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<v Speaker 1>ain't easy, But I thought I would take you back

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<v Speaker 1>via a documentary that produced on that twenty oh six

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<v Speaker 1>season called Believe, because that's the name of the video

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<v Speaker 1>that the Wildcats put together and played for their fans

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<v Speaker 1>on the big screen. We went back and we went

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<v Speaker 1>over all the wins that season in that documentary might

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<v Speaker 1>didn't talk about the LSU game, but here is the

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<v Speaker 1>audio with the highlights and interview clips. You'll hear Rich Brooks.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna hear from Mike Archer, who was defensive coordinator

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<v Speaker 1>hear from offensive coordinator Joker Phillips as well as the

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<v Speaker 1>release right after the game. It's got the pep talk

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<v Speaker 1>after the game. So we'll start with the pep talk

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<v Speaker 1>the documentary called Believe Time for doing.

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<v Speaker 4>This year, Guys. I'm tired of people talking down about

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<v Speaker 4>this football team, tired about him not giving us the

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<v Speaker 4>respect that I know that we can deserve. But we

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<v Speaker 4>have to go out and earn that respect every time

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<v Speaker 4>we come out of the shoot. We have to go

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<v Speaker 4>out there and earn it. You earned some last week,

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<v Speaker 4>You've earned some this year.

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<v Speaker 5>You earned some starting.

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<v Speaker 6>Off three and zero at home the first.

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<v Speaker 4>Time and a long long time around here.

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<v Speaker 7>So let's go get some more.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, let's earn it, keep burning it and keep calming.

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<v Speaker 4>After their slam after snap after snash.

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<v Speaker 8>The Georgia Bulldogs arrived wounded. They were struggling coming off

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<v Speaker 8>a home field offs to Vanderbilt, and sure enough, after

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<v Speaker 8>the Cats took an early three to nothing lead, the

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<v Speaker 8>Dogs fought their way to a fourteen to three advantage

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<v Speaker 8>early in the second quarter. The Wildcats steadied themselves and

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<v Speaker 8>marched seventy six yards in ten plays, Burton and Woodson

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<v Speaker 8>covering the final five as Kentucky made it fourteen to

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<v Speaker 8>ten with eight minutes left in the first half. You

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<v Speaker 8>gave as a great opportunity for more points late and

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<v Speaker 8>a half when linebacker Johnny Williams picked off of Georgia

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<v Speaker 8>pass deep in the Bulldog's territory and nearly scored, but

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<v Speaker 8>the Dogs took it right back and marched straight down

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<v Speaker 8>the field. As the final moments of the half were

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<v Speaker 8>winding down, someone needed to make a play with the Wildcats.

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<v Speaker 8>Roger Willie take about the Faith, the good Man and.

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<v Speaker 6>Seventy Roger Williams zone. It was Trevart Linley who made

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<v Speaker 6>the play. He betted the faith pattered up into the

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<v Speaker 1>Tivart Lindley doing his job.

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<v Speaker 9>He tips the ball and Roger's hustling over there.

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<v Speaker 7>In the baugus kitch.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, if we don't get that interception, who knows

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<v Speaker 8>what happens.

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<v Speaker 7>The game could turn with that.

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<v Speaker 8>If they go in and score, kick a field goal,

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<v Speaker 8>it's a minimum of a three point swing, it might.

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<v Speaker 7>Be a seven or ten point This week it.

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<v Speaker 8>Was a big Kentucky escapes down only four at the half.

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<v Speaker 8>Following a score a third period, UK took a seventeen

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<v Speaker 8>to fourteen lead on Woodston's second scoring strike to Verton

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<v Speaker 5>T k Tucky trips tip the lee pits King Marten.

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<v Speaker 8>The Bulldogs answered immediately with the scoring drive that covered

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<v Speaker 8>eighty three yards and Kentucky trailed twenty to seventeen with

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<v Speaker 8>put on the methodical march of their own behind tailback

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<v Speaker 8>Tony Dixon on a sixty nine yard drive that took

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<v Speaker 8>eleven plays. The sophomore from Parish, Alabama, caught two passes

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<v Speaker 8>and ran the ball another four times, howering the final

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<v Speaker 8>touchdown and on the.

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<v Speaker 6>Nixend, the.

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<v Speaker 8>Fans across the Commonwealth braced themselves.

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<v Speaker 10>A lot of fans were still holding their breath from

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<v Speaker 10>remembering the LSU game before I got here and whatever

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<v Speaker 10>games that Kentucky had find a way to lose it.

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<v Speaker 9>And you're asking yourself that question, can Kentucky answer right

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<v Speaker 9>here at the end, with only what about two and

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<v Speaker 9>And there's you know, there is there's that little bit

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<v Speaker 9>of doubt in your mind. But then again, on the

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<v Speaker 9>other hand, you know, this isn't the same type of

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<v Speaker 9>Georgia team that had won nine straight over Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 8>This time the defense came through. This time it was

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<v Speaker 8>the Cats who made the play. It was the Dogs

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<v Speaker 8>who made the mistake, and Trevard Linley made them pay.

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<v Speaker 8>Stafford retreats mony.

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<v Speaker 6>Of time out of protection is breaking down.

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<v Speaker 8>He slides right, he throws.

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<v Speaker 6>Torley the Georgia forty one yard line.

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<v Speaker 9>I think our players now are beginning to believe that.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, they were a lot better and they expected

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<v Speaker 8>to win up to that point. I think they hoped

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<v Speaker 8>to him, you know, for three years, we hope to him.

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<v Speaker 8>He is it, Abriel down on the sidelines, tell us

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<v Speaker 8>what it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Christmas morning.

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<v Speaker 6>This one is twenty seconds away from being over, but

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<v Speaker 6>the celebration is already on. Fans are coming out of

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<v Speaker 6>the end zone on each side as the Wildcats have

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<v Speaker 6>beaten Georgia for just the eleventh time and sixty tries,

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<v Speaker 6>and the police would just say the heck would have

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<v Speaker 6>let him go. Kentucky twenty four, Georgia twenty three two one,

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<v Speaker 6>it's over.

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<v Speaker 8>The celebration began and it didn't end until the gold

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<v Speaker 8>post came down.

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<v Speaker 10>Coming on the on the road win at Mississippi State.

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<v Speaker 7>This was a huge, huge.

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<v Speaker 10>Win for the Kentucky football program, and obviously the players

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<v Speaker 10>were as thrilled as the fans, because I know some

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<v Speaker 10>of my younger players were out there participating in that

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<v Speaker 10>uh and it was just a great environment, and I

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<v Speaker 10>just think it set the tone for what was to

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<v Speaker 1>I got Marcus McClinton part of that defensive unit. Marcus,

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<v Speaker 1>how did you guys do this?

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<v Speaker 10>Oh?

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<v Speaker 8>No, just doing our job.

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<v Speaker 6>We knew they came here in a little week and

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<v Speaker 8>But we just executed every play.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody's been through more than Manma Cutch and the injuries,

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<v Speaker 1>disappointing losses. What does this mean to you?

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<v Speaker 8>You know, this is this is why I stuck around,

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<v Speaker 8>You know, this is why I.

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<v Speaker 6>Came to Kentucky to keey wins like this at.

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<v Speaker 7>Home and for at our house.

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<v Speaker 1>You played on one leg for most of this game,

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<v Speaker 1>and you weren't coming out, were you. Hell no, they

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<v Speaker 1>weren't taking me out of this game.

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<v Speaker 7>I want you to let them.

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<v Speaker 10>It was exciting.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean most the good thing is our.

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<v Speaker 9>Players got to experience something like that, you know, seeing.

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<v Speaker 7>Where the program had came came from when we.

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<v Speaker 10>First got here, uh four years ago, and seen where

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<v Speaker 9>You know, at that point, I was really excited about

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<v Speaker 1>And again at the end there that was Joker Phillips

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, the offensive coordinator. So all the goal

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<v Speaker 1>back into the locker room safely because it was dangerous

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<v Speaker 1>out there. Rich Brooks talked to the team he had

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<v Speaker 1>just fired up like three hours ago.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't tell you how proud I am of you.

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<v Speaker 8>That was a real SEC football year, a real.

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<v Speaker 7>Football game, and we were the one to get it made.

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<v Speaker 1>Guy. That win over Georgia was number six on the

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<v Speaker 1>ear so it didn't sure that the Wildcats would go

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<v Speaker 1>to a bowl game. And then, of course they beat

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<v Speaker 1>Vanderbilt the next time out. They had to struggle a

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<v Speaker 1>bit to beat Vandy because they had been dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>their emotions all week, but it sent Kentucky to the

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<v Speaker 1>Music City Bowl. You know, the lost of Tennessee followed,

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<v Speaker 1>but what else was new? But yeah, that was the

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<v Speaker 1>in quite a while, and it was a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, they pulled off the upset of Clemson. And

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<v Speaker 1>then three years later Kentucky spilled Georgia in Athens in

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<v Speaker 1>a game that was just crazy, Kentucky forcing four turnovers

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll never forget doing the postgame sitting on the

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<v Speaker 1>bench on the Kentucky sideline, I looked up because I

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to remember exactly what the score was. They

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<v Speaker 1>had shut off the scoreboard it was dark, so I

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<v Speaker 1>always look for that when I'm on the road. If

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky bulls off a road wind to see does anybody

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<v Speaker 1>else turn off the scoreboard as quickly as Georgia does?

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<v Speaker 1>And the answer so far is not. Up Next, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>here from Rich Brooks, who of course will be the

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<v Speaker 1>celebrity broadcast opening voice this Saturday when the Cats take

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<v Speaker 1>on the Bulldogs at Kroger Field. We're back in a

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Big Blue Insider Thursday edition of

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<v Speaker 1>our program UK football coming up Saturday afternoon into the

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<v Speaker 1>evening five thirty broadcast time seven thirty kickoff. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you've been listening to the first couple of games, which

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<v Speaker 1>we appreciate, you've noticed that we have added celebrity Wildcats

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<v Speaker 1>basically opening our broadcast bill Ransdell week number one, Jojo

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<v Speaker 1>Kemp last week, and we thought for the Georgia game,

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<v Speaker 1>why not a guy who knows about beating Georgia, that

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<v Speaker 1>is the former head coach Rich Brooks. And of course

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<v Speaker 1>the indoor facility now named for Rich and his wife Karen,

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<v Speaker 1>and we got hold of him the other night to

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<v Speaker 1>talk a little bit about what it takes to be

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<v Speaker 1>Georgia and what it was like for him to see

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<v Speaker 1>his team, which in six, let's face it, early in

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<v Speaker 1>the year, was struggling, but put it together in time

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<v Speaker 1>to beat first Mississippi State after that awful loss to

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<v Speaker 1>LSU and then the Georgia Bulldogs with a freshman quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>by the name of Matthew Stafford. My conversation with the

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<v Speaker 1>former UK coach, I know you talked at length about

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<v Speaker 1>how things turned around in twenty oh six, but that

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<v Speaker 1>Georgia game in particular, what do you remember about that?

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<v Speaker 1>Because Stafford was a freshman, but he was pretty darn

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<v Speaker 1>good quarterback, wasn't he?

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<v Speaker 7>He was a very good quarterback. But you know, we

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<v Speaker 7>had gone through the very tough loss at LSU bye week,

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<v Speaker 7>and then we got a tough win on the road

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<v Speaker 7>at Mississippi State and came home against Georgia, and our

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<v Speaker 7>players had a totally different mindset and they really carried

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<v Speaker 7>a positive attitude forward. And I really credit the backbone

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<v Speaker 7>of our players were making play after play after play

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<v Speaker 7>in that Georgia game, and when we need to have it,

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<v Speaker 7>we took the ball to drive down the field and basically,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, Tony Dixon just ran it right down their

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<v Speaker 1>I just felt like Tony never got enough credit because

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<v Speaker 1>Rafael was so good. You had so many playmakers, But

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<v Speaker 1>Tony was a heck of a player when he was healthy,

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't he Tony Cherry?

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<v Speaker 7>I had Tony Cherry at Oregon? Tony Dixon. Tony Dixon

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<v Speaker 7>was an outstanding back. I'll never forget his very very

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<v Speaker 7>first game. We put in a little pitch play and

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<v Speaker 7>when he came I tried him at corner first because

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<v Speaker 7>with what our running backs were doing, so I moved

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<v Speaker 7>and told him where to go, and from then on

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<v Speaker 7>he was a running back. In our very first game,

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<v Speaker 7>he made a long run about a sixty yarder for

424
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<v Speaker 7>a touchdown. I'll never get going over and giving him

425
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<v Speaker 7>a kiss on the forehead and He made tons of

426
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<v Speaker 7>plays over his four year career that helped us win

427
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<v Speaker 7>a lot of very important football games.

428
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<v Speaker 1>And that Georgia run, that whole series was phenomenal. And

429
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<v Speaker 1>we talked in our game opening script about the interception

430
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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the first half. Roger Williams got it,

431
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<v Speaker 1>but that that was huge. People we don't realize how big.

432
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<v Speaker 1>We remember Trevard as well we should, and then the

433
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<v Speaker 1>field goal or the goal post coming down, But that

434
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<v Speaker 1>interception at the end of the first half was huge, wasn't.

435
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<v Speaker 7>It, Roger Williams. I mean, we had so many underrated

436
00:24:16.079 --> 00:24:22.519
<v Speaker 7>players that made huge plays during that six seven eight.

437
00:24:24.000 --> 00:24:29.039
<v Speaker 7>They just were phenomenal young men. They took the bit

438
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<v Speaker 7>in their mouth and just took charge, and they refused

439
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<v Speaker 7>to go the way of the past teams at Kentucky,

440
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<v Speaker 7>and I just admire the young men I coached. They

441
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<v Speaker 7>kept making play after play after play.

442
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<v Speaker 1>You've talked before about how Andre Woodson kind of blossom

443
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<v Speaker 1>developed as a quarterback, and you said about halfway through

444
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<v Speaker 1>that six year he went from being a guy that

445
00:24:59.039 --> 00:25:01.119
<v Speaker 1>he obviously was looking of the sidelines, but he was

446
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<v Speaker 1>becoming a guy who could get you out of a

447
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<v Speaker 1>bad play. Not necessarily checked to a great play, but

448
00:25:06.759 --> 00:25:08.799
<v Speaker 1>just get you out of a bad play. He was

449
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<v Speaker 1>begging to show that in that Georgia game, wasn't he?

450
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<v Speaker 7>Yes, I think you know, the Louisville lost to open

451
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<v Speaker 7>that season, I think really really matured him, if you will,

452
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<v Speaker 7>And as we went on through the season, he became

453
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<v Speaker 7>a more of a leader and took a take charge guy.

454
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<v Speaker 7>And he really I think blossomed during that second half

455
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<v Speaker 7>of the season in six and really in some situations,

456
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<v Speaker 7>you know, he just took over and put our team

457
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<v Speaker 7>on his back. I mean, you go forward to the

458
00:25:48.079 --> 00:25:52.119
<v Speaker 7>LSU game in seven and look what he did, and

459
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<v Speaker 7>it was unbelievable the passes he made under extreme pressure.

460
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<v Speaker 1>Now, looking back on those goalposts coming down, were you

461
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<v Speaker 1>already inside when that happened or what was happening? I

462
00:26:03.359 --> 00:26:06.480
<v Speaker 1>know you were concerned your players not get hurt with

463
00:26:06.559 --> 00:26:09.160
<v Speaker 1>all that going on, but that had to be just

464
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<v Speaker 1>a real source of joy for you as the head coach.

465
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<v Speaker 7>You know, that was one of those I think we

466
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<v Speaker 7>got to find from the sec with the fans taking

467
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<v Speaker 7>onto the field, and that happened quite a few times,

468
00:26:23.119 --> 00:26:27.599
<v Speaker 7>but it was it was a great moment. I think

469
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<v Speaker 7>for our team, I think it was a great moment

470
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<v Speaker 7>because of what had transpired for three and a half

471
00:26:36.319 --> 00:26:40.519
<v Speaker 7>years before that, and coming off of the probation that

472
00:26:40.599 --> 00:26:48.160
<v Speaker 7>I inherited. I think that win started the real enjoyment

473
00:26:49.039 --> 00:26:54.720
<v Speaker 7>that our players brought to the Kentucky fans. And I

474
00:26:54.920 --> 00:26:59.079
<v Speaker 7>was engulfed a little bit in the crowd, So I

475
00:26:59.160 --> 00:27:03.319
<v Speaker 7>don't remember the goal posts coming down, but I did

476
00:27:03.400 --> 00:27:07.240
<v Speaker 7>see them being at the end after they were down,

477
00:27:07.519 --> 00:27:10.359
<v Speaker 7>so I was trying to get in the locker room.

478
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<v Speaker 1>I don't blame you.

479
00:27:13.440 --> 00:27:13.640
<v Speaker 5>You know.

480
00:27:13.680 --> 00:27:15.960
<v Speaker 1>There's so much talk about Bowl games, and it always

481
00:27:16.440 --> 00:27:19.279
<v Speaker 1>really wounds me when I hear people talk about, ah,

482
00:27:19.359 --> 00:27:22.279
<v Speaker 1>these games don't mean anything. I always go back and

483
00:27:22.319 --> 00:27:25.400
<v Speaker 1>I will say this to people. Look at that photo

484
00:27:25.440 --> 00:27:27.640
<v Speaker 1>of you with your players, because that game puts you,

485
00:27:27.759 --> 00:27:29.759
<v Speaker 1>guys into the postseason and you wind up in the

486
00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Music City Bowl, which which you win, you upset Clemson,

487
00:27:33.400 --> 00:27:37.720
<v Speaker 1>and the way you celebrated with your players, the unbridled

488
00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:41.559
<v Speaker 1>joy that all of you shared that day, that to

489
00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:45.000
<v Speaker 1>me still means something. That's first Bowl game I had

490
00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:48.599
<v Speaker 1>covered in forever, and just remembering that, I got to

491
00:27:48.680 --> 00:27:51.799
<v Speaker 1>think from your memory, Max, and you celebrated when they

492
00:27:51.799 --> 00:27:54.400
<v Speaker 1>dediccrate and dedicated the field house to you and your wife,

493
00:27:54.680 --> 00:27:56.319
<v Speaker 1>you celebrated again with your players.

494
00:27:56.359 --> 00:28:02.480
<v Speaker 7>What that meant, Well, I just looked back at that

495
00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:07.079
<v Speaker 7>time and I had players that had my back. And

496
00:28:08.279 --> 00:28:10.319
<v Speaker 7>I didn't know it at the time, but I guess

497
00:28:10.359 --> 00:28:14.839
<v Speaker 7>I needed somebody to have my back, and the players did.

498
00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:24.119
<v Speaker 7>The fan base was a little disgruntled. Administration was questioning things,

499
00:28:24.440 --> 00:28:30.640
<v Speaker 7>and the players stuck with the plan and they believed

500
00:28:30.680 --> 00:28:35.319
<v Speaker 7>in the plan and they executed it, and we finally

501
00:28:35.839 --> 00:28:43.240
<v Speaker 7>overcame the negativity that we were dealing with. And it

502
00:28:43.359 --> 00:28:47.319
<v Speaker 7>was just a joyful, positive moment that we were not

503
00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:51.680
<v Speaker 7>only able to get to a bowl game, but to

504
00:28:51.759 --> 00:28:55.680
<v Speaker 7>be a very, very good Clemson football team, and in

505
00:28:55.839 --> 00:28:58.440
<v Speaker 7>the way we did it, I think was kind of

506
00:28:58.480 --> 00:28:59.279
<v Speaker 7>exciting too.

507
00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:02.519
<v Speaker 1>There were so many big plays in that game that

508
00:29:02.599 --> 00:29:05.680
<v Speaker 1>was truly a team win, wasn't it. I mean, from

509
00:29:05.759 --> 00:29:09.880
<v Speaker 1>the fake punt, Demorio Ford sneaks behind the defense, you

510
00:29:09.880 --> 00:29:12.759
<v Speaker 1>score a touchdown with a linebacker. I mean, that was

511
00:29:12.799 --> 00:29:14.759
<v Speaker 1>one of my all time favorite games. It has to

512
00:29:14.799 --> 00:29:15.240
<v Speaker 1>be one of.

513
00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:22.319
<v Speaker 7>Yours, no question. And Keenan Burton playing on a bum

514
00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:28.400
<v Speaker 7>knee and the emergence and arrival of Stevie Johnson in

515
00:29:28.480 --> 00:29:34.319
<v Speaker 7>that game. He was huge. Jacob Tammy, I mean, we

516
00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:39.799
<v Speaker 7>just had player after player. Travard Linley made several major

517
00:29:39.920 --> 00:29:46.079
<v Speaker 7>plays on defense. There were just so many great things

518
00:29:46.119 --> 00:29:51.200
<v Speaker 7>that we kept overcoming, and I just it was a

519
00:29:51.279 --> 00:29:55.160
<v Speaker 7>very very special time in my life to be able

520
00:29:55.200 --> 00:29:58.000
<v Speaker 7>to associate with the players that I had at the

521
00:29:58.079 --> 00:29:59.240
<v Speaker 7>University of Kentucky.

522
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<v Speaker 1>I remember, never forget this. When we got to Nashville,

523
00:30:02.200 --> 00:30:04.519
<v Speaker 1>the media, you guys have been there working out. We

524
00:30:04.599 --> 00:30:06.440
<v Speaker 1>got there early in the week and both you and

525
00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:09.359
<v Speaker 1>your receivers coach Choker Phillips said the same thing. The

526
00:30:09.480 --> 00:30:12.960
<v Speaker 1>lights have come on for Stevie Johnson those extra weeks.

527
00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:15.359
<v Speaker 1>And you've preached that all the time. You try to

528
00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:18.759
<v Speaker 1>educate everybody about the value of the Bowl game is

529
00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:21.119
<v Speaker 1>well beyond just getting to the game. It's the extra

530
00:30:21.160 --> 00:30:24.720
<v Speaker 1>weeks of practice. And I remember you saying the come on,

531
00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:25.880
<v Speaker 1>Stevie Johnson.

532
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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, And that gave us extra practices to develop the

533
00:30:32.839 --> 00:30:37.920
<v Speaker 7>younger players going into seven and every time you go

534
00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:43.039
<v Speaker 7>to a bowl game, you get approximately probably at least

535
00:30:43.079 --> 00:30:47.240
<v Speaker 7>seven or eight really good practices where you can develop

536
00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:53.000
<v Speaker 7>your younger players as well as start game preparation and

537
00:30:53.119 --> 00:30:58.440
<v Speaker 7>those extra practices. You can't put a number on how

538
00:30:58.480 --> 00:31:03.720
<v Speaker 7>important they are to developing a team, especially when you're

539
00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:08.759
<v Speaker 7>trying to build something from tough times.

540
00:31:09.400 --> 00:31:12.000
<v Speaker 1>More of my conversation with former UK head coach Rich

541
00:31:12.039 --> 00:31:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Brooks on the other side of the break here on

542
00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:16.400
<v Speaker 1>the Big Moon Sider at six thirty w Welcome back

543
00:31:16.400 --> 00:31:18.240
<v Speaker 1>to the Big Moon Sider. Here is more of my

544
00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:22.759
<v Speaker 1>conversation with former UK head coach Rich Brooks. Well, let

545
00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:25.960
<v Speaker 1>me ask you about the nine win again, unexpected because

546
00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:29.079
<v Speaker 1>it's on the road, so tough to win anywhere, but

547
00:31:29.200 --> 00:31:33.000
<v Speaker 1>especially in a place like Samper Stadium between between the hedges,

548
00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:36.640
<v Speaker 1>and again with almost an entirely different team coach. It

549
00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:39.599
<v Speaker 1>was a true team effort. Wasn't an offense and defense?

550
00:31:39.640 --> 00:31:41.359
<v Speaker 1>So many different people making plays.

551
00:31:43.160 --> 00:31:47.039
<v Speaker 7>Well, there's no question about it. I remember Steve Hellier

552
00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:49.440
<v Speaker 7>after the game, he was up in the press box

553
00:31:49.480 --> 00:31:52.839
<v Speaker 7>and at halftime he rode down in the elevator with

554
00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:56.400
<v Speaker 7>the Georgia coaches and they were laughing and cackling, and

555
00:31:56.559 --> 00:32:00.559
<v Speaker 7>you know, we got these guys now, and and we

556
00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:03.359
<v Speaker 7>had a couple of Georgia boys make some really big

557
00:32:03.400 --> 00:32:08.119
<v Speaker 7>plays on defense. Bat of the ball intercepted the past.

558
00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:12.359
<v Speaker 7>I mean, yeah, my goodness, I mean, and what a

559
00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:16.160
<v Speaker 7>moment for him in his home state, not too far

560
00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:19.359
<v Speaker 7>where he went to high school from that stadium. So

561
00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:22.920
<v Speaker 7>it just was a really really special win.

562
00:32:23.480 --> 00:32:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Randall Cobb was a big Morgan Newton had a great game.

563
00:32:26.519 --> 00:32:28.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you could you could sit here all night

564
00:32:28.279 --> 00:32:31.000
<v Speaker 1>and talk about the guys who contributed.

565
00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:36.039
<v Speaker 7>And there's no question and it just was a treat

566
00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:41.039
<v Speaker 7>for me to be able to work again with almost

567
00:32:41.079 --> 00:32:44.240
<v Speaker 7>a whole new group of players, if you will. Then

568
00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:48.200
<v Speaker 7>the ones that turned it around in six those are

569
00:32:48.200 --> 00:32:50.720
<v Speaker 7>the ones that came in and went through all the

570
00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:54.039
<v Speaker 7>tough times. A lot of the players in that nine

571
00:32:54.119 --> 00:32:58.200
<v Speaker 7>win had enjoyed some pretty good times. They didn't understand

572
00:32:58.240 --> 00:33:02.119
<v Speaker 7>that the difficulty and upness, but they had the resolve

573
00:33:02.200 --> 00:33:04.640
<v Speaker 7>to come back and pull out a win on the

574
00:33:04.759 --> 00:33:09.960
<v Speaker 7>road at Georgia, which in today's world looks like something

575
00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:11.519
<v Speaker 7>that's pretty impressive.

576
00:33:12.039 --> 00:33:14.960
<v Speaker 1>And you remember what happened. You were still out there

577
00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:17.519
<v Speaker 1>on the field because at the end of the game,

578
00:33:17.559 --> 00:33:20.880
<v Speaker 1>that scoreboard went off almost instantly. Do you remember that

579
00:33:21.599 --> 00:33:23.839
<v Speaker 1>the final score didn't stay up very long.

580
00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:27.319
<v Speaker 7>Did it? No? No, they weren't very happy with it.

581
00:33:28.400 --> 00:33:30.799
<v Speaker 1>You know, and it's it's such a special thing to

582
00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:34.759
<v Speaker 1>win on the road, obviously, and you know we travel

583
00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:37.359
<v Speaker 1>with you guys, but I don't remember what the trip

584
00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:40.240
<v Speaker 1>back was like, but that had to be just again,

585
00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:43.079
<v Speaker 1>something special to travel back home after.

586
00:33:42.920 --> 00:33:46.720
<v Speaker 7>A win like that, there's no question. And you know

587
00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:49.920
<v Speaker 7>it's hard to get out of Athens to get back

588
00:33:49.960 --> 00:33:54.160
<v Speaker 7>to the airport in Atlanta, so the bus ride was

589
00:33:54.200 --> 00:33:57.039
<v Speaker 7>a lot more joyful than some of them we took

590
00:33:57.079 --> 00:33:58.160
<v Speaker 7>out of that stadium.

591
00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:01.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I phone home with a few of those teams

592
00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:03.839
<v Speaker 1>after losing and everybody tried to get to sleep as

593
00:34:03.920 --> 00:34:07.440
<v Speaker 1>quickly as possible, which I don't believe him, but yeah,

594
00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:10.559
<v Speaker 1>winning on the road. So as we wrap this up, coach,

595
00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:13.440
<v Speaker 1>I know that you were stung by last week's loss,

596
00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:16.920
<v Speaker 1>but I know how much you care about and how

597
00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:19.880
<v Speaker 1>highly you regard Mark Stoops in a way he does

598
00:34:19.960 --> 00:34:23.440
<v Speaker 1>his job. Any thoughts on the game going in this weekend.

599
00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:28.559
<v Speaker 7>Well, you know, I kind of looked back to my

600
00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:34.960
<v Speaker 7>game at LSU in six before we were able to

601
00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:37.880
<v Speaker 7>turn the thing around with the win over Mississippi State

602
00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:41.960
<v Speaker 7>in Georgia. But nothing went right for us in that

603
00:34:42.039 --> 00:34:47.199
<v Speaker 7>game either, I mean We looked awful, turned the ball over,

604
00:34:47.320 --> 00:34:56.639
<v Speaker 7>couldn't stop anybody, couldn't make plays, drop passes, mistackles. Frankly

605
00:34:56.760 --> 00:35:02.360
<v Speaker 7>looked like I didn't coach the team and we did

606
00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:08.719
<v Speaker 7>whatever we did. Nothing worked. But that after that game,

607
00:35:10.639 --> 00:35:14.599
<v Speaker 7>we figured some things out and we became a very

608
00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:18.440
<v Speaker 7>close knit team and a team that started making plays

609
00:35:18.440 --> 00:35:22.800
<v Speaker 7>and clutch situations rather than comping it up in close

610
00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:29.039
<v Speaker 7>flut situations. So I'm just hoping that Mark and flipped

611
00:35:29.039 --> 00:35:33.199
<v Speaker 7>this thing around, because that game reminded me very much

612
00:35:33.239 --> 00:35:38.199
<v Speaker 7>of that LSU performance, where, like I said, all systems failure,

613
00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:43.639
<v Speaker 7>it's just nothing. Nothing was working. Looked like we didn't

614
00:35:43.639 --> 00:35:47.880
<v Speaker 7>even care almost. I mean, it was just embarrassing, and

615
00:35:48.760 --> 00:35:52.840
<v Speaker 7>I hope that the players are as embarrassed as I

616
00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:56.079
<v Speaker 7>know Mark Stoukes was after that game. I mean, it's

617
00:35:56.679 --> 00:35:58.599
<v Speaker 7>one of the hardest things to do as a coach

618
00:35:59.400 --> 00:36:01.760
<v Speaker 7>is go in when you know you've laid an eight

619
00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:09.440
<v Speaker 7>and face the press and try to explain it. I mean,

620
00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:11.320
<v Speaker 7>it's hard to explain.

621
00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:16.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, Mark mentioned that on his press conference on

622
00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:19.679
<v Speaker 1>Monday again. He said, you know, it starts at the top.

623
00:36:19.760 --> 00:36:22.159
<v Speaker 1>He said, it starts with me, and we got to

624
00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:24.239
<v Speaker 1>figure things out just as you did. Now you had

625
00:36:24.239 --> 00:36:27.719
<v Speaker 1>the extra week which helped. And you've talked before and

626
00:36:27.760 --> 00:36:29.599
<v Speaker 1>it was in your book about how you guys went

627
00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:32.639
<v Speaker 1>to the fundamentals. You went to some tough workouts, but

628
00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:36.800
<v Speaker 1>your team bonded that week and you ground out people.

629
00:36:36.840 --> 00:36:40.599
<v Speaker 1>Forget about that Mississippi State win in Starkville. That was

630
00:36:40.639 --> 00:36:43.840
<v Speaker 1>an incredibly important win, but it just showed how much

631
00:36:43.880 --> 00:36:46.960
<v Speaker 1>your kids had pulled together when it might not have

632
00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:47.639
<v Speaker 1>happened that way.

633
00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:52.199
<v Speaker 7>If if we don't win the Mississippi State game, we

634
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<v Speaker 7>probably don't upset Georgia because the players had to have

635
00:36:56.960 --> 00:37:04.679
<v Speaker 7>some positive reinforcement for the practices that we had for

636
00:37:04.760 --> 00:37:07.840
<v Speaker 7>two weeks leading up to that team, and we did

637
00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:13.440
<v Speaker 7>get to win on the road and then everything fell

638
00:37:13.480 --> 00:37:15.199
<v Speaker 7>into place for that team.

639
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<v Speaker 1>Well, Coach has been great talking to you. I'm looking

640
00:37:18.280 --> 00:37:21.840
<v Speaker 1>forward to hearing you open our broadcast on Saturday. It

641
00:37:21.880 --> 00:37:24.960
<v Speaker 1>was great seeing you as they dedicated, as I said,

642
00:37:24.960 --> 00:37:27.639
<v Speaker 1>the facility, the Rich and Karen Brooks facility here, you've

643
00:37:27.639 --> 00:37:29.840
<v Speaker 1>got to feel named after you out there at Oregon.

644
00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:32.719
<v Speaker 1>Are there going to be any other buildings or anything

645
00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:34.920
<v Speaker 1>named after you in the near future, because you're all

646
00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:35.679
<v Speaker 1>over the country.

647
00:37:36.679 --> 00:37:41.239
<v Speaker 7>You know, I doubt it. I've just been a very

648
00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:47.079
<v Speaker 7>fortunate coach to be able to recruit quality young men

649
00:37:47.159 --> 00:37:53.039
<v Speaker 7>that took things into their own hands and made things happen.

650
00:37:53.599 --> 00:37:55.559
<v Speaker 1>Well, we know about the tough times you went through here.

651
00:37:55.599 --> 00:37:58.199
<v Speaker 1>You went through I know from reading and following you

652
00:37:58.920 --> 00:38:00.800
<v Speaker 1>tough times in Oregon. I got to think, when you

653
00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:03.519
<v Speaker 1>were a young head coach, you probably never thought you'd

654
00:38:03.559 --> 00:38:05.599
<v Speaker 1>have a field named after you or a field house

655
00:38:05.679 --> 00:38:08.719
<v Speaker 1>named after you. But but the kids came through for you,

656
00:38:08.760 --> 00:38:09.280
<v Speaker 1>didn't they.

657
00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:12.840
<v Speaker 7>Well I had t shirts named after Why it's Rich.

658
00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:16.639
<v Speaker 7>That's Rich. So so you know I got my name

659
00:38:16.719 --> 00:38:17.760
<v Speaker 7>on something.

660
00:38:18.199 --> 00:38:20.400
<v Speaker 1>That keeps you humble, doesn't it.

661
00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:21.800
<v Speaker 7>Coach?

662
00:38:21.840 --> 00:38:24.199
<v Speaker 1>Thanks great talking to you. My best of Karen, and

663
00:38:24.519 --> 00:38:25.679
<v Speaker 1>hope to see you again soon.

664
00:38:26.719 --> 00:38:31.280
<v Speaker 7>Really enjoy you and my time at Kentucky and you're

665
00:38:31.320 --> 00:38:31.760
<v Speaker 7>the best.

666
00:38:31.960 --> 00:38:33.760
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, coach. We'll see I hope soon.

667
00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:35.119
<v Speaker 7>Take care of it.

668
00:38:35.199 --> 00:38:38.840
<v Speaker 1>Bye bye. Love talking football with Rich Brooks because so

669
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:41.559
<v Speaker 1>many of us set a ringside seat for how he

670
00:38:41.639 --> 00:38:45.760
<v Speaker 1>turned this program around, and I really like covering bowl games.

671
00:38:46.840 --> 00:38:50.119
<v Speaker 1>Up next hour number two and Matthews sign of the

672
00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:53.440
<v Speaker 1>College Football Foundation will join us to talk about the

673
00:38:53.480 --> 00:38:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame and Tim Couch. That's all ahead here

674
00:38:56.039 --> 00:38:58.400
<v Speaker 1>on a big Moon Sider six point thirty w LAP

675
00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:22.079
<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Big Old Sider. Joining us on

676
00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:25.599
<v Speaker 1>our celebrity outline as a longtime friend and a colleague

677
00:39:25.639 --> 00:39:28.079
<v Speaker 1>and a guy who knows what's going on up in

678
00:39:28.119 --> 00:39:30.599
<v Speaker 1>the mountains of Eastern Kentucky when it comes to sports.

679
00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Brian Milm, formerly the sports director WYMT now w KYT.

680
00:39:36.039 --> 00:39:39.559
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to talk to Brian because Saturday is the

681
00:39:39.639 --> 00:39:42.840
<v Speaker 1>day Kentucky UK will honor Tim Katch going into the

682
00:39:42.840 --> 00:39:46.119
<v Speaker 1>College Football Hall of Fame. And when you arrived at YMT,

683
00:39:46.320 --> 00:39:50.639
<v Speaker 1>Tim was here just just tearing it up at UK,

684
00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:53.880
<v Speaker 1>tearing up college football. I know how proud they were

685
00:39:53.920 --> 00:39:55.800
<v Speaker 1>up in the mountains too. That had to be interesting

686
00:39:55.880 --> 00:40:01.239
<v Speaker 1>to see everybody's hometown boy from me Kentucky doing good

687
00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:01.920
<v Speaker 1>things here.

688
00:40:03.119 --> 00:40:06.400
<v Speaker 5>Well, it was because there was an and you know this,

689
00:40:06.599 --> 00:40:08.960
<v Speaker 5>and it goes back to the eight alph Rup days.

690
00:40:09.039 --> 00:40:13.000
<v Speaker 5>When there is a Kentucky connection in terms of players

691
00:40:13.280 --> 00:40:17.719
<v Speaker 5>to the Kentucky teams, whatever the sport, it means something

692
00:40:18.079 --> 00:40:20.960
<v Speaker 5>a little bit extra and that's you know, everybody will

693
00:40:21.039 --> 00:40:23.599
<v Speaker 5>root for UK. But if you have a guy from

694
00:40:23.639 --> 00:40:27.760
<v Speaker 5>the mountains or from western Kentucky, not necessarily Louisville or Lexington,

695
00:40:28.039 --> 00:40:31.079
<v Speaker 5>but when they come from a rural area, there's a romance.

696
00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:34.239
<v Speaker 5>I think that's there. There's a story book type of

697
00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:40.000
<v Speaker 5>a uh of an attitude people take because it is

698
00:40:40.320 --> 00:40:44.639
<v Speaker 5>an area that you don't expect the greatest player to

699
00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:48.440
<v Speaker 5>come from. Not a very good player, but the guy

700
00:40:48.480 --> 00:40:53.320
<v Speaker 5>who is considered the greatest quarterback in UK history and

701
00:40:53.360 --> 00:40:56.519
<v Speaker 5>in the high school's history can like what Travis Perry

702
00:40:56.559 --> 00:40:58.840
<v Speaker 5>brought from Lyon County for basketball this year.

703
00:40:58.880 --> 00:41:02.920
<v Speaker 1>That's true. Yeah, yeah, when you can definitively point and

704
00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:05.000
<v Speaker 1>say he's the best, not what do you think of

705
00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:07.360
<v Speaker 1>that guy? Well, he's pretty good, but so and so. No,

706
00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:09.559
<v Speaker 1>I mean the guy rewrote the record book.

707
00:41:09.440 --> 00:41:14.639
<v Speaker 5>Right, Yeah, he's and he started playing as an eighth grader.

708
00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:18.159
<v Speaker 5>He's got I think it's either seventy two or ninety

709
00:41:18.239 --> 00:41:22.840
<v Speaker 5>two yards that are not counted by the KHSAA and

710
00:41:23.079 --> 00:41:28.039
<v Speaker 5>the National Federation of High Schools because they only count

711
00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:32.840
<v Speaker 5>from your true high school years for football. But they count, yeah,

712
00:41:32.840 --> 00:41:35.800
<v Speaker 5>but they but they do count point that you score

713
00:41:35.840 --> 00:41:39.360
<v Speaker 5>in basketball, hence Travis Berry, which is kind of interesting.

714
00:41:39.880 --> 00:41:42.639
<v Speaker 5>But you know, you play for all of those years,

715
00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:45.079
<v Speaker 5>and you have your older brother like Greg Couch to

716
00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:47.440
<v Speaker 5>show you the ropes. You have a coach like Mike

717
00:41:47.480 --> 00:41:50.599
<v Speaker 5>Whittaker who went to UK for a cup of coffee

718
00:41:50.639 --> 00:41:54.360
<v Speaker 5>and then had an outstanding career at EKU. You grow

719
00:41:54.440 --> 00:41:56.599
<v Speaker 5>up around that, and you have guys that can catch

720
00:41:56.639 --> 00:42:00.679
<v Speaker 5>the football. And it was just the perfect timing for

721
00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:05.119
<v Speaker 5>everything for Tim. And he not only brought the state

722
00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:09.320
<v Speaker 5>spotlight to Heiden, but the national spotlight as well. When

723
00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:14.639
<v Speaker 5>coaches of heavyweight programs are coming into little Hydeen, Kentucky

724
00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:18.239
<v Speaker 5>that obviously, if Tim wasn't there, they didn't need directions

725
00:42:18.280 --> 00:42:22.079
<v Speaker 5>how to get there. And it was a special time

726
00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:24.280
<v Speaker 5>because I was in college, but I was in the

727
00:42:24.280 --> 00:42:27.360
<v Speaker 5>mountains a lot visiting. Friends of mine dated a lady

728
00:42:27.400 --> 00:42:30.440
<v Speaker 5>from eastern Kentucky, and so when I would go and visit,

729
00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:30.960
<v Speaker 5>I say.

730
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:32.599
<v Speaker 7>Well, who's this Couch guy?

731
00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:34.280
<v Speaker 5>Yes, you know this is pretty incredible.

732
00:42:34.320 --> 00:42:36.239
<v Speaker 7>Well we all found out how good he was.

733
00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:40.800
<v Speaker 1>I remember when his team came and played in election

734
00:42:41.000 --> 00:42:44.960
<v Speaker 1>in at one of those Bowl game doubleheaders, and they

735
00:42:45.159 --> 00:42:48.519
<v Speaker 1>played at Tates Creek, if memory serves, and I was

736
00:42:48.559 --> 00:42:52.400
<v Speaker 1>over there covering the games. Obviously for kyt and was

737
00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:55.199
<v Speaker 1>doing some talk radio then, and I remember the first

738
00:42:55.239 --> 00:42:58.159
<v Speaker 1>thing out of my mouth was Tim Couch is the truth,

739
00:42:58.280 --> 00:43:01.159
<v Speaker 1>the whole truth and nothing. But I was like, can

740
00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:04.039
<v Speaker 1>this guy really be that good? And granted it was

741
00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:06.880
<v Speaker 1>small high school stuff in the state of Kentucky, but

742
00:43:07.039 --> 00:43:09.880
<v Speaker 1>you could see his athletic ability was I mean away

743
00:43:09.920 --> 00:43:13.039
<v Speaker 1>he threw the football. Golly, that was he was just

744
00:43:13.159 --> 00:43:14.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of a freak athlete.

745
00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:15.559
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

746
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:18.800
<v Speaker 5>And that game you're talking about where they came, they

747
00:43:18.880 --> 00:43:22.719
<v Speaker 5>beat Highlands that day, that's right, Yeah, opening game of

748
00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:26.559
<v Speaker 5>the season in ninety five. And and Tim is so

749
00:43:26.719 --> 00:43:30.400
<v Speaker 5>much of a passer, that's obviously how he buttered his

750
00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:33.400
<v Speaker 5>bread in high school and college. But in high school

751
00:43:33.400 --> 00:43:36.519
<v Speaker 5>he also ran the ball. When you're six five and

752
00:43:36.639 --> 00:43:39.280
<v Speaker 5>that physical you need to run over people, and he

753
00:43:39.320 --> 00:43:42.960
<v Speaker 5>certainly did that. So he also had that the playmaking

754
00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:47.960
<v Speaker 5>ability with his feet when he had to, and he

755
00:43:48.199 --> 00:43:50.679
<v Speaker 5>just was a phenomenal player. Now I didn't get to

756
00:43:50.679 --> 00:43:53.800
<v Speaker 5>see him in person, but when you watch the video, yeah,

757
00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:56.960
<v Speaker 5>the truth, the ball just had that extra zip coming

758
00:43:57.000 --> 00:44:00.719
<v Speaker 5>out of his hand. And again Mike White and then

759
00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:05.639
<v Speaker 5>Joe Beeder his last year, continued that offensive play calling

760
00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:10.679
<v Speaker 5>to maximize the skill that he had and now then

761
00:44:10.679 --> 00:44:12.960
<v Speaker 5>he goes to UK and does what he does at

762
00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:18.280
<v Speaker 5>Kentucky and helps revolutionize a program. And just really two

763
00:44:18.440 --> 00:44:24.679
<v Speaker 5>years this place was talking football. Yes, basketball was doing

764
00:44:24.760 --> 00:44:26.800
<v Speaker 5>its thing in ninety six, ninety seven to ninety eight,

765
00:44:27.039 --> 00:44:29.440
<v Speaker 5>but people could not wait to get to the fall

766
00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:32.800
<v Speaker 5>and that had not always happened before.

767
00:44:33.000 --> 00:44:37.079
<v Speaker 1>Talking to Brian Mylein, sports director WKYT about Tim Kouch

768
00:44:37.159 --> 00:44:39.880
<v Speaker 1>coming from the mountains of eastern Kentucky, where Brian spent

769
00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:44.320
<v Speaker 1>quite a bit of his career working at WYMT, and

770
00:44:44.440 --> 00:44:47.360
<v Speaker 1>I know you so well. You sit up laid watch

771
00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:51.079
<v Speaker 1>baseball games on TV and on YouTube and this and that,

772
00:44:51.519 --> 00:44:54.119
<v Speaker 1>and you know you're even more of a nerd when

773
00:44:54.119 --> 00:44:56.880
<v Speaker 1>it comes to archiving video than I was for crying

774
00:44:56.880 --> 00:45:00.599
<v Speaker 1>out loud at KYT. But something that's got to be down, Yeah,

775
00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:02.599
<v Speaker 1>well it's got to be down. But it's also fun.

776
00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:05.280
<v Speaker 1>I love shifting through old video. What was it like

777
00:45:05.320 --> 00:45:07.920
<v Speaker 1>for you when you got to YMT and you started

778
00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:09.559
<v Speaker 1>seeing old video of Tim Couch?

779
00:45:10.320 --> 00:45:13.440
<v Speaker 5>Well, you know it's funny you asked that, or because

780
00:45:13.480 --> 00:45:16.320
<v Speaker 5>when I go back to help at YMT just as

781
00:45:16.360 --> 00:45:19.440
<v Speaker 5>an advisor, usually just a few times a year, well,

782
00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:23.039
<v Speaker 5>the last time I was there, I stumble across Kim

783
00:45:23.159 --> 00:45:27.679
<v Speaker 5>Couch video from nineteen ninety five and I'm just amazed.

784
00:45:27.719 --> 00:45:28.800
<v Speaker 7>I was like, wow, look at this.

785
00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:31.880
<v Speaker 5>It was against mc napier, a school no longer around

786
00:45:31.920 --> 00:45:34.760
<v Speaker 5>that's now part of Perry County Central, and I was

787
00:45:34.840 --> 00:45:38.159
<v Speaker 5>just watching it and I was thinking, my gosh, how aggressive,

788
00:45:38.519 --> 00:45:42.239
<v Speaker 5>how mean in a positive way he was on the

789
00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:44.960
<v Speaker 5>football field. It wasn't just you know when he got

790
00:45:44.960 --> 00:45:47.800
<v Speaker 5>the UK and how Mummy had the passing game. You know,

791
00:45:47.840 --> 00:45:50.000
<v Speaker 5>there was a lot of you know, dink and dooint

792
00:45:50.119 --> 00:45:52.679
<v Speaker 5>passes that some people said, oh, you know, he can't

793
00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:56.719
<v Speaker 5>throw the ball the way Peyton Manning can. But then

794
00:45:56.760 --> 00:45:59.559
<v Speaker 5>when you saw that rifle shot he gave Craig Yeast

795
00:46:00.280 --> 00:46:04.920
<v Speaker 5>in the Alabama game, he threaded that triangular window perfectly,

796
00:46:05.280 --> 00:46:09.599
<v Speaker 5>and you could see, Wow, I understand now if you

797
00:46:09.639 --> 00:46:12.519
<v Speaker 5>only saw one pass his entire collegiate career and you

798
00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:17.159
<v Speaker 5>saw that path, you realized what everybody was bragging about

799
00:46:17.199 --> 00:46:22.760
<v Speaker 5>for the five years previous. But watching that video, it's

800
00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:26.119
<v Speaker 5>just phenomenal. And then to have the touch on the

801
00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:29.519
<v Speaker 5>football when you have a fade pattern or you have

802
00:46:29.559 --> 00:46:32.599
<v Speaker 5>an out route, and just to see Yeah, he could

803
00:46:32.599 --> 00:46:35.159
<v Speaker 5>throw bullets, but he could also finesse it in there

804
00:46:35.199 --> 00:46:36.719
<v Speaker 5>and drop it in when he had it.

805
00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:39.039
<v Speaker 1>I got to share with you something that Jeff fan

806
00:46:39.159 --> 00:46:41.079
<v Speaker 1>Notes said to me. Of course, he was our radio

807
00:46:41.199 --> 00:46:44.880
<v Speaker 1>color analyst back then and an NFL veteran, knew everybody

808
00:46:44.880 --> 00:46:46.800
<v Speaker 1>in the league because he was also part of the

809
00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:51.320
<v Speaker 1>Players Association for so long. But he was actually at

810
00:46:51.559 --> 00:46:57.480
<v Speaker 1>the last workout, private workout that the Browns put Tim

811
00:46:57.599 --> 00:47:01.199
<v Speaker 1>Couch through prior to that draft, because you remember it

812
00:47:01.280 --> 00:47:02.880
<v Speaker 1>was it was was it going to be Tim Couch

813
00:47:02.960 --> 00:47:06.800
<v Speaker 1>or Achille Smith. Brown's Bangers were drafting one two Achille

814
00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:09.960
<v Speaker 1>coming out of Oregon, a great athlete, had a great arm,

815
00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:12.000
<v Speaker 1>but kind of a loose cannon type of player. And

816
00:47:12.039 --> 00:47:15.599
<v Speaker 1>we knew what Tim was. And Noter told us, he said,

817
00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:19.440
<v Speaker 1>I have never seen a more impressive private workout. And

818
00:47:19.480 --> 00:47:22.679
<v Speaker 1>he was not guy guy over Tim Couch just because

819
00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:24.840
<v Speaker 1>he was a UK guy, you know, Noah was an

820
00:47:24.920 --> 00:47:28.559
<v Speaker 1>NFL veteran. He said, I've never seen a more a

821
00:47:28.599 --> 00:47:32.360
<v Speaker 1>better private workout. And he said the last pass that

822
00:47:32.440 --> 00:47:34.960
<v Speaker 1>he threw Dwight Clark, I'm like what it was. Dwight

823
00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Clark was in the front office with the forty nine ers,

824
00:47:38.719 --> 00:47:41.760
<v Speaker 1>and he was catching balls from couch Uh and he

825
00:47:41.800 --> 00:47:45.000
<v Speaker 1>said he threw one kind of a tight end route

826
00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:47.840
<v Speaker 1>over the middle, and he said there was so much

827
00:47:47.880 --> 00:47:49.760
<v Speaker 1>on it. He said, I thought they were gonna have

828
00:47:49.800 --> 00:47:53.400
<v Speaker 1>to surgically remove the ball from Clark's gut, you know.

829
00:47:53.519 --> 00:47:55.880
<v Speaker 1>So that that told me everything I needed to know.

830
00:47:56.360 --> 00:47:58.119
<v Speaker 1>But the other thing, too, is that I like the point.

831
00:47:58.159 --> 00:47:59.760
<v Speaker 1>I've talked to Tim about it. He said, hell of

832
00:47:59.800 --> 00:48:01.280
<v Speaker 1>a basketball player, wasn't he?

833
00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:05.039
<v Speaker 5>Oh my gosh. He averaged in the mid to upper

834
00:48:05.199 --> 00:48:09.960
<v Speaker 5>thirties his senior year for Leslie County, and I want

835
00:48:09.960 --> 00:48:12.639
<v Speaker 5>to say thirty seven a game that sounds about right,

836
00:48:12.679 --> 00:48:16.719
<v Speaker 5>feels right, but it's within a bucket or two either way.

837
00:48:17.119 --> 00:48:21.440
<v Speaker 5>And there were there was talk back then that, hey,

838
00:48:21.840 --> 00:48:25.599
<v Speaker 5>if he'd misster football and mister basketball, because that's never

839
00:48:25.679 --> 00:48:30.639
<v Speaker 5>happened before, and everybody, I think, up and down, up

840
00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:34.800
<v Speaker 5>and down and across the country thought he would win

841
00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:39.039
<v Speaker 5>mister basketball if Leslie County could get out of that

842
00:48:39.159 --> 00:48:43.280
<v Speaker 5>competitive fourteenth region and the district alone that had at

843
00:48:43.280 --> 00:48:47.000
<v Speaker 5>that time mc napier and Hazard and Bill Scomb's and

844
00:48:46.760 --> 00:48:50.880
<v Speaker 5>and and teams like that. But it wasn't meant to be.

845
00:48:51.360 --> 00:48:54.199
<v Speaker 5>But he could put on a show. And there's one

846
00:48:54.199 --> 00:48:57.039
<v Speaker 5>clip of video. I want him to sit down with

847
00:48:57.079 --> 00:49:01.920
<v Speaker 5>me sometime and relive because he got taken out on

848
00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:04.360
<v Speaker 5>a dunk or a layup, and he got up to

849
00:49:04.519 --> 00:49:07.440
<v Speaker 5>one of the kid who undercut it, who had a

850
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:10.960
<v Speaker 5>tough reputation to begin with, and he points to his nose.

851
00:49:11.000 --> 00:49:13.039
<v Speaker 5>He goes, hit me right now. I'm right here, hit

852
00:49:13.159 --> 00:49:17.239
<v Speaker 5>me right now. And the camera happened to be three

853
00:49:17.360 --> 00:49:20.440
<v Speaker 5>feet from the altercation. Wow, it wasn't on the other

854
00:49:20.519 --> 00:49:22.960
<v Speaker 5>side of the court. It was up close and personal.

855
00:49:23.159 --> 00:49:26.360
<v Speaker 5>And I always wanted him to walk me through that

856
00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:30.199
<v Speaker 5>situation because he was a marked man. And in the

857
00:49:30.199 --> 00:49:33.320
<v Speaker 5>mountains they get a little rough. In basketball, they understand

858
00:49:33.400 --> 00:49:35.880
<v Speaker 5>if they can't beat you, will beat you up in

859
00:49:35.920 --> 00:49:39.079
<v Speaker 5>other ways to maybe get under your skin. But he

860
00:49:39.079 --> 00:49:41.440
<v Speaker 5>could shoot it, he could drive to the basket, he

861
00:49:41.480 --> 00:49:43.000
<v Speaker 5>could do a little bit of everything.

862
00:49:43.159 --> 00:49:45.159
<v Speaker 1>I know there was talk of him maybe playing here,

863
00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:47.280
<v Speaker 1>but that one out the window pretty quickly. But I

864
00:49:47.320 --> 00:49:49.079
<v Speaker 1>had him on s earlier this week. I wish I

865
00:49:49.079 --> 00:49:50.440
<v Speaker 1>had known that. Next time I have him on, I

866
00:49:50.440 --> 00:49:52.760
<v Speaker 1>have to ask him that question, ask him about that.

867
00:49:52.880 --> 00:49:58.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure, he remembers. My guest sports director w K

868
00:49:58.360 --> 00:49:59.880
<v Speaker 1>wait to you, We'll come back and talk more with

869
00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:02.119
<v Speaker 1>Ryan is amitted here on the Big Blue Sider six

870
00:50:02.119 --> 00:50:04.679
<v Speaker 1>point thirty. Welcome back for chatting with Brian Mileymy is

871
00:50:04.679 --> 00:50:07.960
<v Speaker 1>the sports director at WKYT here in Lexington, and I'm

872
00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:12.079
<v Speaker 1>going to shift you from Kentucky football over to EKU

873
00:50:12.199 --> 00:50:15.960
<v Speaker 1>football because you covered, I believe, if I'm not mistaken,

874
00:50:16.039 --> 00:50:20.239
<v Speaker 1>the Eastern Western game last Saturday. Correct, And you're like me,

875
00:50:20.360 --> 00:50:23.599
<v Speaker 1>you love the traditional games, but you know they hadn't

876
00:50:23.599 --> 00:50:25.719
<v Speaker 1>played it. I don't know how long. I don't know

877
00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:27.679
<v Speaker 1>if they're going to play again thanks to the big

878
00:50:28.039 --> 00:50:32.119
<v Speaker 1>Jersey flap. But I've got to think, Brian, it just

879
00:50:32.119 --> 00:50:33.719
<v Speaker 1>didn't feel quite the same.

880
00:50:33.480 --> 00:50:38.079
<v Speaker 5>Did it. It didn't because I am, as you know,

881
00:50:38.840 --> 00:50:42.559
<v Speaker 5>when it comes to sports. I'm a traditionalist in the

882
00:50:42.639 --> 00:50:47.559
<v Speaker 5>fact that I want to see your student body, your

883
00:50:47.639 --> 00:50:51.880
<v Speaker 5>community show up to support your team. And I don't

884
00:50:51.880 --> 00:50:54.639
<v Speaker 5>care what level of sport we're talking about. If it's

885
00:50:54.719 --> 00:51:00.159
<v Speaker 5>Berea College to Transi to Georgetown to Kentucky, obviously they're

886
00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:02.360
<v Speaker 5>going to put sixty thousand people in there just about

887
00:51:02.400 --> 00:51:07.159
<v Speaker 5>every Saturday. But then I was so disappointed when EKU

888
00:51:07.280 --> 00:51:09.480
<v Speaker 5>got to Western and I was there an hour and

889
00:51:09.519 --> 00:51:11.239
<v Speaker 5>a half, two hours before the game, and I just

890
00:51:11.320 --> 00:51:15.320
<v Speaker 5>watched the people and there were so many empty seats

891
00:51:14.880 --> 00:51:19.480
<v Speaker 5>in the old part of fights field. They do have

892
00:51:19.559 --> 00:51:23.639
<v Speaker 5>a beautiful new I call it the Hardball Wing because

893
00:51:23.760 --> 00:51:28.079
<v Speaker 5>they really did it upright when Jack Harball won that

894
00:51:28.159 --> 00:51:32.119
<v Speaker 5>national title twenty two years ago. And they have advanced

895
00:51:32.159 --> 00:51:34.719
<v Speaker 5>to the FCS level while EKU is still in the

896
00:51:34.880 --> 00:51:38.639
<v Speaker 5>FBS level. But the rivalry does not mean what it

897
00:51:38.760 --> 00:51:43.480
<v Speaker 5>once did except for those who can respect and appreciate

898
00:51:43.599 --> 00:51:48.280
<v Speaker 5>what happened during coach fights and coach kids era, and

899
00:51:48.760 --> 00:51:52.440
<v Speaker 5>it just didn't have that same. Hey it's Eastern Western,

900
00:51:52.519 --> 00:51:56.320
<v Speaker 5>it just didn't have it. And I'm not sure if

901
00:51:56.360 --> 00:52:00.639
<v Speaker 5>the rivalries of what some consider a less thir tier.

902
00:52:00.719 --> 00:52:04.239
<v Speaker 5>It's not Major Division one football, it's not SEC ACC,

903
00:52:04.440 --> 00:52:07.280
<v Speaker 5>Big ten, whatever. I just don't know if it's ever

904
00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:10.519
<v Speaker 5>going to be recaptured again. But there were a lot

905
00:52:10.559 --> 00:52:14.119
<v Speaker 5>of people from Eastern that made the trip to Western,

906
00:52:14.679 --> 00:52:18.400
<v Speaker 5>and I would love to see one more time and

907
00:52:18.440 --> 00:52:21.760
<v Speaker 5>then do it again, to see a capacity crowd a

908
00:52:21.840 --> 00:52:24.400
<v Speaker 5>game go down to the wire and you just don't

909
00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:25.840
<v Speaker 5>know what's going to happen.

910
00:52:26.119 --> 00:52:28.239
<v Speaker 1>Western Kentucky Stilling Conference USA.

911
00:52:28.360 --> 00:52:29.960
<v Speaker 7>Is that correct? Yes?

912
00:52:30.199 --> 00:52:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Okay, see, I'm hoping for their sake that EKU finally

913
00:52:34.519 --> 00:52:37.199
<v Speaker 1>breaks through because it has tried, and it has put

914
00:52:37.199 --> 00:52:40.280
<v Speaker 1>a lot of money into its facilities to get to

915
00:52:40.400 --> 00:52:44.239
<v Speaker 1>Division one. We're dollars. It might cost you more in

916
00:52:44.239 --> 00:52:47.400
<v Speaker 1>scholars but for football, they're D one and everything else.

917
00:52:47.400 --> 00:52:50.079
<v Speaker 1>People don't understand that just because they're one double A

918
00:52:50.159 --> 00:52:53.079
<v Speaker 1>in football doesn't mean they r D one and everything else.

919
00:52:53.480 --> 00:52:56.679
<v Speaker 1>But if they could only get back into the same conference, Brian,

920
00:52:56.760 --> 00:53:00.519
<v Speaker 1>I do believe we could recapture some of that, you

921
00:53:00.519 --> 00:53:01.039
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean?

922
00:53:01.639 --> 00:53:02.159
<v Speaker 7>Oh sure?

923
00:53:02.280 --> 00:53:05.039
<v Speaker 5>And I think there was a time, as you know this,

924
00:53:05.599 --> 00:53:11.000
<v Speaker 5>when the Kentucky schools played the Kentucky schools. There was Murray,

925
00:53:11.360 --> 00:53:14.199
<v Speaker 5>Western was in there, obviously morehead State and e KU.

926
00:53:14.280 --> 00:53:17.800
<v Speaker 5>You had that foursome right there that just wanted to

927
00:53:17.840 --> 00:53:20.599
<v Speaker 5>wear out everybody. You wanted to beat Murray, you wanted

928
00:53:20.599 --> 00:53:25.239
<v Speaker 5>to beat Western, you know, Eastern what have you? And

929
00:53:25.239 --> 00:53:30.679
<v Speaker 5>and with the movement, the seismic movement of conferences today,

930
00:53:31.280 --> 00:53:34.840
<v Speaker 5>I told someone the ACC does not mean Atlantic Coast

931
00:53:34.840 --> 00:53:38.719
<v Speaker 5>Conference anymore. It just means the ACC because you can't

932
00:53:38.719 --> 00:53:42.639
<v Speaker 5>bring Stanford in and call it the Atlantic. And with

933
00:53:42.639 --> 00:53:46.639
<v Speaker 5>with Eastern, you know, they leave the OVC, then they

934
00:53:46.719 --> 00:53:48.719
<v Speaker 5>get to the a Sun Well they stay there for

935
00:53:48.760 --> 00:53:50.760
<v Speaker 5>a hot second, and then they get to the UAC.

936
00:53:51.440 --> 00:53:53.639
<v Speaker 5>Then they get Last year was that they were in

937
00:53:53.679 --> 00:53:57.559
<v Speaker 5>the Mountain West with some of those schools out there,

938
00:53:57.599 --> 00:54:01.239
<v Speaker 5>and I thought, there's too much movement. People don't know who.

939
00:54:01.800 --> 00:54:05.440
<v Speaker 5>You have to establish an identity and there's just so

940
00:54:05.519 --> 00:54:09.639
<v Speaker 5>much movement. I think that's also taken away from the rivalry.

941
00:54:09.679 --> 00:54:12.880
<v Speaker 5>The crowds, Hey, who are you playing this week? Abilene

942
00:54:12.960 --> 00:54:15.719
<v Speaker 5>Christian never heard of them? You know, who are you

943
00:54:15.719 --> 00:54:19.159
<v Speaker 5>playing this week? West Georgia never heard of them? You know,

944
00:54:19.599 --> 00:54:22.880
<v Speaker 5>people know e KU, they know Eastern Kentucky, the reputation

945
00:54:23.480 --> 00:54:27.840
<v Speaker 5>Roy Kid built and before him in Presnel, but it

946
00:54:28.360 --> 00:54:31.159
<v Speaker 5>just doesn't have that same punch. And I think for

947
00:54:31.320 --> 00:54:35.519
<v Speaker 5>Eastern to get to where Western is, they've got to

948
00:54:35.559 --> 00:54:38.679
<v Speaker 5>start taking care of business in this new conference they're

949
00:54:38.719 --> 00:54:42.440
<v Speaker 5>in the United Athletic Conference. They've got to start winning that,

950
00:54:42.960 --> 00:54:44.920
<v Speaker 5>you know, they've got to start winning it three out

951
00:54:44.960 --> 00:54:47.280
<v Speaker 5>of four years. The way Eastern seemed to dominate the

952
00:54:47.320 --> 00:54:50.920
<v Speaker 5>OBC for so many seasons, and if Eastern wasn't winning it.

953
00:54:51.000 --> 00:54:55.280
<v Speaker 5>Middle Tennessee was there, or Tennessee State possibly, but Western

954
00:54:55.400 --> 00:55:00.599
<v Speaker 5>Kentucky was winning conference championships way back when, and Eastern's

955
00:55:00.599 --> 00:55:03.159
<v Speaker 5>got to take care of what they can take care

956
00:55:03.239 --> 00:55:07.280
<v Speaker 5>of before. I think some of the older generations says, well,

957
00:55:07.320 --> 00:55:09.760
<v Speaker 5>Western's here, why can't we be here? Well, you got

958
00:55:09.800 --> 00:55:11.079
<v Speaker 5>to win where you are first.

959
00:55:11.320 --> 00:55:14.360
<v Speaker 1>Didn't get there, you know when when Roy passed away

960
00:55:14.360 --> 00:55:18.519
<v Speaker 1>and we were talking to so many people about him.

961
00:55:18.639 --> 00:55:22.840
<v Speaker 1>Carl Park, the longtime sid, ed e k you told

962
00:55:22.880 --> 00:55:24.800
<v Speaker 1>us and I don't think I knew this. You might have,

963
00:55:24.920 --> 00:55:27.199
<v Speaker 1>but what you know? You you refer to Jack Harbo

964
00:55:27.280 --> 00:55:31.159
<v Speaker 1>who basically thanks to Jim and you know as much

965
00:55:31.199 --> 00:55:33.719
<v Speaker 1>as anybody, because Jim poured a lot of money of

966
00:55:33.760 --> 00:55:36.519
<v Speaker 1>his own shoe money into WK you to support his

967
00:55:36.599 --> 00:55:40.239
<v Speaker 1>dad's program. But Western Kentucky was on the verge of

968
00:55:40.360 --> 00:55:44.679
<v Speaker 1>dropping football's right. Roy Kidd went to Bowling Green and

969
00:55:44.760 --> 00:55:49.920
<v Speaker 1>spoke passionately on behalf of Hilltopper football and helped save it.

970
00:55:50.000 --> 00:55:54.000
<v Speaker 1>This is before any national championship, you know, and any

971
00:55:54.039 --> 00:55:57.800
<v Speaker 1>conference title that Western Kentucky would subsequently win. Roy Kidd,

972
00:55:58.280 --> 00:56:00.559
<v Speaker 1>who wanted to beat Western Kentucky as as badly as

973
00:56:00.679 --> 00:56:04.400
<v Speaker 1>any team worse on his schedule went to Bulker Green

974
00:56:04.519 --> 00:56:07.760
<v Speaker 1>to save the program that blew me away.

975
00:56:08.719 --> 00:56:12.079
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and you did. You were Roy Kidds guy in

976
00:56:12.119 --> 00:56:14.760
<v Speaker 5>the eighties and nineties and early two thousands. I mean,

977
00:56:14.800 --> 00:56:19.280
<v Speaker 5>you were the constant with him for those decades. And

978
00:56:20.159 --> 00:56:22.920
<v Speaker 5>he gave an interview with you. He said, you know,

979
00:56:23.039 --> 00:56:25.679
<v Speaker 5>it's bad enough you go down there basically, not paraphrase,

980
00:56:25.880 --> 00:56:27.519
<v Speaker 5>it's bad enough you go down there to help him

981
00:56:27.519 --> 00:56:30.199
<v Speaker 5>save a program. Then they come feat you. Yeah, you know,

982
00:56:30.760 --> 00:56:33.159
<v Speaker 5>but it was let's say he went to Western in

983
00:56:33.159 --> 00:56:35.599
<v Speaker 5>the late eighties, early nineties, and I believe that's when

984
00:56:35.599 --> 00:56:40.440
<v Speaker 5>it was, when he helps Western keep that program. And

985
00:56:40.480 --> 00:56:42.840
<v Speaker 5>then you know, you look at two thousand and one,

986
00:56:43.480 --> 00:56:46.880
<v Speaker 5>two thousand and two when Harbaugh Western is the number

987
00:56:47.000 --> 00:56:50.559
<v Speaker 5>sixteen seed of the sixteen teams and they.

988
00:56:50.440 --> 00:56:51.360
<v Speaker 7>Win the off full set.

989
00:56:51.760 --> 00:56:56.239
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and that was I you know, I firmly believe

990
00:56:56.280 --> 00:56:59.239
<v Speaker 5>it would never happen. But I'm sure Roy Kidd probably

991
00:56:59.519 --> 00:57:01.920
<v Speaker 5>was sitting at home at that time going dogs. But

992
00:57:02.440 --> 00:57:03.039
<v Speaker 5>you're welcome.

993
00:57:03.119 --> 00:57:04.039
<v Speaker 7>I helped you to get there.

994
00:57:04.920 --> 00:57:07.840
<v Speaker 1>Ryan, MYLM sports director WKYT, thanks so much.

995
00:57:09.000 --> 00:57:09.039
<v Speaker 9>You.

996
00:57:09.320 --> 00:57:11.719
<v Speaker 1>Matthew signed the College Football Hall of Fame next and

997
00:57:11.800 --> 00:57:14.440
<v Speaker 1>six thirty will welcome back to the Big Blue Insider

998
00:57:14.440 --> 00:57:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Dick Gabriel. What do you join now? On our celebrity

999
00:57:16.800 --> 00:57:22.199
<v Speaker 1>Hotline by the Chief Operating Officer of the College Football

1000
00:57:22.320 --> 00:57:26.679
<v Speaker 1>found National Football Foundation and College Hall of Fame, Matthew Signed. Matthew,

1001
00:57:26.719 --> 00:57:27.679
<v Speaker 1>thanks for joining.

1002
00:57:27.519 --> 00:57:29.599
<v Speaker 11>Us, Thank you for having me.

1003
00:57:29.880 --> 00:57:33.360
<v Speaker 1>You we chatted off air. You played college football at Rice,

1004
00:57:33.440 --> 00:57:36.639
<v Speaker 1>You've got an interesting resume, and now you become the

1005
00:57:36.960 --> 00:57:41.719
<v Speaker 1>COO of this operation and one of your projects, of course,

1006
00:57:41.840 --> 00:57:44.920
<v Speaker 1>is the Hall of Fame. Tim Couch going in. Uh,

1007
00:57:45.039 --> 00:57:47.519
<v Speaker 1>that's got to be just a joyful job to be

1008
00:57:47.599 --> 00:57:51.239
<v Speaker 1>a part of something like this with guys who have waited,

1009
00:57:51.800 --> 00:57:53.599
<v Speaker 1>you know, half their lives here about whether or not

1010
00:57:53.639 --> 00:57:55.639
<v Speaker 1>they're going to be Hall of famers, and you get

1011
00:57:55.639 --> 00:57:56.400
<v Speaker 1>to be a part of that.

1012
00:57:57.599 --> 00:58:01.800
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, these are really these are really nice and meaningful

1013
00:58:01.960 --> 00:58:05.880
<v Speaker 11>event and makes you really feel good about you know,

1014
00:58:05.960 --> 00:58:10.519
<v Speaker 11>college football in general. You know, it's hard to get

1015
00:58:10.559 --> 00:58:13.320
<v Speaker 11>into the College Football Hall of Fame. Now it should

1016
00:58:13.360 --> 00:58:15.480
<v Speaker 11>be it's a Hall of Fame. Yeah, it's hard to

1017
00:58:15.480 --> 00:58:18.960
<v Speaker 11>get in, and and you know, we we'd like to

1018
00:58:18.960 --> 00:58:20.440
<v Speaker 11>take everybody every year.

1019
00:58:20.239 --> 00:58:22.159
<v Speaker 7>But we you know, we just can't do it that way.

1020
00:58:22.280 --> 00:58:25.519
<v Speaker 11>So you know, these are you know, in light of

1021
00:58:25.559 --> 00:58:27.679
<v Speaker 11>the world we're living in, you know, these are very

1022
00:58:27.719 --> 00:58:28.960
<v Speaker 11>special days for sure.

1023
00:58:29.320 --> 00:58:31.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Tim was telling us the other night on the

1024
00:58:31.760 --> 00:58:35.079
<v Speaker 1>show that I think you guys educate them about numbers.

1025
00:58:35.079 --> 00:58:38.440
<v Speaker 1>There are like five million people who have played college

1026
00:58:38.440 --> 00:58:40.920
<v Speaker 1>football through the years and the holidays back to nineteen

1027
00:58:41.000 --> 00:58:44.320
<v Speaker 1>forty seven, and only a little more than a thousand

1028
00:58:44.400 --> 00:58:46.320
<v Speaker 1>have made the Hall of Fame. So it is special,

1029
00:58:46.400 --> 00:58:47.960
<v Speaker 1>isn't it It is.

1030
00:58:48.039 --> 00:58:51.239
<v Speaker 11>I mean, you're talking point zero two percent that we'll

1031
00:58:51.239 --> 00:58:52.920
<v Speaker 11>get in the Hall, and it's we're truly the best

1032
00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:55.000
<v Speaker 11>of the best, and you know, based on the numbers,

1033
00:58:55.039 --> 00:58:57.679
<v Speaker 11>it might be the toughest Hall of Fame to get into.

1034
00:58:57.920 --> 00:59:00.320
<v Speaker 11>So you know, first of all, just get on the

1035
00:59:00.360 --> 00:59:05.480
<v Speaker 11>ballot is a great accomplishment, you know, because we will

1036
00:59:05.519 --> 00:59:08.599
<v Speaker 11>only have eighty the fan of the year, eighty eighty

1037
00:59:08.639 --> 00:59:10.920
<v Speaker 11>five on that ballot that are going to be considered

1038
00:59:10.920 --> 00:59:14.119
<v Speaker 11>for the Hall of Fame. So, uh, it's very competitive,

1039
00:59:14.800 --> 00:59:16.599
<v Speaker 11>but we feel like we have a really good fair

1040
00:59:16.760 --> 00:59:20.840
<v Speaker 11>system and really looking forward to uh spending more time

1041
00:59:20.880 --> 00:59:23.519
<v Speaker 11>with Tim and honoring Tim Well.

1042
00:59:23.559 --> 00:59:26.039
<v Speaker 1>I've been a member of the Football Writers Association for

1043
00:59:26.119 --> 00:59:29.119
<v Speaker 1>quite some time. So he's gotten my boat more than once.

1044
00:59:29.960 --> 00:59:31.920
<v Speaker 1>But let me tell you, have you ever met Tim?

1045
00:59:33.719 --> 00:59:37.039
<v Speaker 11>I have in the in the previous life, I did

1046
00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:41.159
<v Speaker 11>some work for CBS Sports, so with Tim. Obviously we

1047
00:59:41.199 --> 00:59:46.280
<v Speaker 11>did some games with Kentucky with Tim Catcher quarterback and certainly, uh,

1048
00:59:46.360 --> 00:59:49.480
<v Speaker 11>you know how when Halimony was getting things up going there.

1049
00:59:49.559 --> 00:59:51.719
<v Speaker 11>So but I have not seen him in quite a while.

1050
00:59:51.960 --> 00:59:55.159
<v Speaker 1>Listen, let me tell you something, Matthew. He looks like

1051
00:59:55.239 --> 00:59:59.239
<v Speaker 1>he could still play the passionate after football. Now he

1052
00:59:59.280 --> 01:00:02.079
<v Speaker 1>puts into work out, so you might be a little

1053
01:00:02.079 --> 01:00:05.880
<v Speaker 1>surprised by what you see. But uh, now he is

1054
01:00:05.920 --> 01:00:08.039
<v Speaker 1>a great guy and then comes back quite a bit

1055
01:00:08.559 --> 01:00:11.119
<v Speaker 1>around the program a lot. But what do you remember

1056
01:00:11.159 --> 01:00:16.239
<v Speaker 1>about Mummy and capturing those games that you worked, well.

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<v Speaker 11>You know those were you know, those were uh, you know,

1058
01:00:19.599 --> 01:00:22.599
<v Speaker 11>different times in the SEC and that's you know, right

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01:00:22.639 --> 01:00:26.360
<v Speaker 11>around the time that you know, Steve Spurrier had it

1060
01:00:26.440 --> 01:00:28.719
<v Speaker 11>going to Florida and they're kind of dominating and they

1061
01:00:28.719 --> 01:00:31.840
<v Speaker 11>were not really anybody else was throwing the football like them.

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<v Speaker 11>And then when when the coach Mummy came in and

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<v Speaker 11>had uh had coach Leach with him as a coordinator,

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01:00:39.239 --> 01:00:42.000
<v Speaker 11>and you know, he threw the ball around. It was

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01:00:42.079 --> 01:00:43.840
<v Speaker 11>and it was it was just it was different than

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01:00:43.960 --> 01:00:48.159
<v Speaker 11>what UH coach Spurrier was doing. And I think it really,

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<v Speaker 11>I think it really at that time, well Kentucky to

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01:00:52.039 --> 01:00:55.480
<v Speaker 11>compete with the very best in the conference, and but

1069
01:00:55.920 --> 01:00:59.519
<v Speaker 11>had everybody started with Tien, it wouldn't happen. Him special

1070
01:00:59.599 --> 01:01:03.679
<v Speaker 11>talent and you know, you know, being All American and

1071
01:01:03.719 --> 01:01:05.559
<v Speaker 11>getting the Hall of Fame, you're a special talent.

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<v Speaker 1>He did.

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<v Speaker 11>Look, he did special things there, you know, beating Alabama

1074
01:01:09.400 --> 01:01:12.480
<v Speaker 11>for the first time in seventy five years, you know,

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01:01:12.760 --> 01:01:14.920
<v Speaker 11>you know, going to a New Year's Day Bowl game,

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01:01:14.960 --> 01:01:17.920
<v Speaker 11>going to the Outback Bowl. Those were those are big

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01:01:17.960 --> 01:01:21.800
<v Speaker 11>moments for UH Kentucky football and and uh you know,

1078
01:01:21.880 --> 01:01:25.039
<v Speaker 11>Kentucky had kind of gone through some tough times since

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01:01:25.039 --> 01:01:28.800
<v Speaker 11>coach claiboron't have retired. So it was welcome and I

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01:01:28.840 --> 01:01:30.559
<v Speaker 11>can tell you it was it was always good TV,

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01:01:30.719 --> 01:01:31.360
<v Speaker 11>that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And when he signed with Kentucky. I was there at

1084
01:01:34.400 --> 01:01:36.960
<v Speaker 1>the news conference. It was a huge day, obviously, and

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01:01:37.360 --> 01:01:39.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, he was already a legend coming out of

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01:01:39.960 --> 01:01:43.679
<v Speaker 1>Leslie County High School and a tremendous athlete overall he

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01:01:43.760 --> 01:01:47.360
<v Speaker 1>led to stay to Kentucky and scoring in basketball one year.

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01:01:47.519 --> 01:01:50.800
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that was such a great get. And he'll

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01:01:50.840 --> 01:01:52.280
<v Speaker 1>he'll be the first to tell you, and I'm sure

1090
01:01:52.280 --> 01:01:54.760
<v Speaker 1>he's if you've talked to him or you will, he'll

1091
01:01:54.800 --> 01:01:57.960
<v Speaker 1>and he'll say this in his speech. Uh, he was

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01:01:58.000 --> 01:02:01.440
<v Speaker 1>surrounded by by really good players. And as you well know,

1093
01:02:01.559 --> 01:02:05.519
<v Speaker 1>you played receivers make quarterbacks, and quarterbacks make receivers and

1094
01:02:05.639 --> 01:02:08.400
<v Speaker 1>running backs in this offense. So uh, they had a

1095
01:02:08.440 --> 01:02:12.360
<v Speaker 1>lot of weapons back then. He took full advantage, no question.

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<v Speaker 11>But and all those things you said exactly true. But

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01:02:16.039 --> 01:02:19.280
<v Speaker 11>you still need that catalyst, you still need that leader,

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01:02:19.480 --> 01:02:21.440
<v Speaker 11>You still need someone to come in and take charge

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01:02:21.440 --> 01:02:24.920
<v Speaker 11>of the huddle. And I think he provided. I think

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01:02:24.960 --> 01:02:28.840
<v Speaker 11>he really provided at the time of belief that Kentucky

1101
01:02:28.880 --> 01:02:33.840
<v Speaker 11>football could win and could win big in the SEC.

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<v Speaker 11>And and I think it's you know, that was I

1103
01:02:36.840 --> 01:02:41.039
<v Speaker 11>think Kentucky football. Since that time, I think people have

1104
01:02:41.119 --> 01:02:43.320
<v Speaker 11>viewed it differently, but it had to someone had to

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01:02:43.320 --> 01:02:46.320
<v Speaker 11>get it started, and I think it started with Tim.

1106
01:02:46.320 --> 01:02:48.719
<v Speaker 11>And look, obviously he could have gone any place in

1107
01:02:48.760 --> 01:02:51.360
<v Speaker 11>the country he wanted to. You know, he stayed home

1108
01:02:51.679 --> 01:02:54.960
<v Speaker 11>and he played for Kentucky and the fact that he's

1109
01:02:55.000 --> 01:02:58.119
<v Speaker 11>still there, you know, doesn't doesn't really surprise us one bit.

1110
01:02:58.480 --> 01:03:00.920
<v Speaker 1>We're talking with Matthew sign As, the CEO of the

1111
01:03:01.000 --> 01:03:05.559
<v Speaker 1>National Football Foundation and College Hall of Fame. Tell our listeners, Matthew,

1112
01:03:06.199 --> 01:03:09.320
<v Speaker 1>how does the voting work? How are people voted in?

1113
01:03:09.360 --> 01:03:10.280
<v Speaker 1>How are they inducted?

1114
01:03:11.119 --> 01:03:14.360
<v Speaker 11>Sure, for a player, you have to be ten years

1115
01:03:14.400 --> 01:03:17.119
<v Speaker 11>clear of your last college game. You have to be

1116
01:03:17.199 --> 01:03:21.800
<v Speaker 11>a first team All American by an NCAA recognized All

1117
01:03:21.840 --> 01:03:25.400
<v Speaker 11>America team. Now, depending on the year, that's varied over

1118
01:03:25.480 --> 01:03:29.400
<v Speaker 11>time somewheres, we we four and eight depending on the year.

1119
01:03:30.159 --> 01:03:34.719
<v Speaker 11>And then your first team All American and you've waited

1120
01:03:34.719 --> 01:03:37.960
<v Speaker 11>ten years, and then you're also no longer playing professional football.

1121
01:03:38.679 --> 01:03:43.159
<v Speaker 11>Then the school nominates you. We rely on the school

1122
01:03:43.239 --> 01:03:46.360
<v Speaker 11>to nominate the player because they know they're players better

1123
01:03:46.400 --> 01:03:51.320
<v Speaker 11>than anybody else. And an individual institution can have two

1124
01:03:52.119 --> 01:03:54.840
<v Speaker 11>can nominate two players a year, they can have three

1125
01:03:54.880 --> 01:03:59.480
<v Speaker 11>on the ballot. And then once you go into once

1126
01:03:59.519 --> 01:04:02.320
<v Speaker 11>your nominated, you go to one of the eight district

1127
01:04:02.400 --> 01:04:05.880
<v Speaker 11>screening committees across the country and based on the number

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01:04:05.920 --> 01:04:08.719
<v Speaker 11>of schools and the number of nominees, will take a

1129
01:04:08.719 --> 01:04:12.519
<v Speaker 11>percentage from that district and that's how you get the

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01:04:12.559 --> 01:04:15.079
<v Speaker 11>ballot of eighty five. And then we have a public

1131
01:04:15.159 --> 01:04:18.880
<v Speaker 11>vote and then we have what's called the Honors Court

1132
01:04:19.239 --> 01:04:22.079
<v Speaker 11>that will make the final decision, and that the Honors

1133
01:04:22.079 --> 01:04:25.000
<v Speaker 11>Court is chaired by it and that's that board member,

1134
01:04:25.400 --> 01:04:27.639
<v Speaker 11>hall of famer and the only two time Heisman winner

1135
01:04:27.760 --> 01:04:30.519
<v Speaker 11>Archie Griffin. So there's a very it's you know, it's

1136
01:04:30.519 --> 01:04:34.960
<v Speaker 11>a very so it's a very well thought out play

1137
01:04:35.000 --> 01:04:38.440
<v Speaker 11>and of action, and you know, we feel very confident

1138
01:04:38.679 --> 01:04:42.239
<v Speaker 11>with it. The important thing is make sure people, especially

1139
01:04:42.320 --> 01:04:46.239
<v Speaker 11>to college universities, understand the process, and they and they

1140
01:04:46.280 --> 01:04:49.519
<v Speaker 11>do that. Everyone understands what the process is. And then

1141
01:04:49.880 --> 01:04:52.159
<v Speaker 11>you know, depending on the year, will take you know,

1142
01:04:52.239 --> 01:04:58.679
<v Speaker 11>somewhere between sixteen to nineteen players and usually take three coaches.

1143
01:04:59.079 --> 01:05:02.599
<v Speaker 11>So it's it's there's a there's a process to it,

1144
01:05:02.679 --> 01:05:05.000
<v Speaker 11>and like I said, it's hard to get in. And

1145
01:05:05.000 --> 01:05:09.760
<v Speaker 11>what makes Tim's Tim's All America year, What makes that

1146
01:05:09.960 --> 01:05:14.440
<v Speaker 11>very interesting is that, uh, I know, I remember that

1147
01:05:14.480 --> 01:05:18.320
<v Speaker 11>we had six All America teams that year because we had,

1148
01:05:19.079 --> 01:05:23.039
<v Speaker 11>uh we had three consensus All America quarterbacks that year.

1149
01:05:23.039 --> 01:05:24.519
<v Speaker 7>If you remember, Tim.

1150
01:05:24.360 --> 01:05:27.719
<v Speaker 11>May two made to All America teams. Kay McNown from

1151
01:05:27.800 --> 01:05:31.480
<v Speaker 11>UCLA made to all America teams. Michael Bishop of Kansas

1152
01:05:31.519 --> 01:05:35.119
<v Speaker 11>State made to all America teams. So it was it

1153
01:05:35.159 --> 01:05:39.079
<v Speaker 11>was a It was a very unique year with a

1154
01:05:39.079 --> 01:05:40.039
<v Speaker 11>lot of great players.

1155
01:05:40.719 --> 01:05:44.159
<v Speaker 1>Well, Bishop was a really exciting hybrid kind of quarterback

1156
01:05:44.480 --> 01:05:46.599
<v Speaker 1>and helped put Kansas State on the map. That was

1157
01:05:46.639 --> 01:05:48.840
<v Speaker 1>a surprise that year, wasn't it that?

1158
01:05:49.039 --> 01:05:51.440
<v Speaker 11>No, that's right, he did. You know, uh, you know

1159
01:05:51.440 --> 01:05:54.599
<v Speaker 11>they went undefeated until that last Saturday December and they

1160
01:05:54.800 --> 01:05:56.519
<v Speaker 11>got upset by you. And then of course the same

1161
01:05:56.599 --> 01:06:00.519
<v Speaker 11>day Kay mcnowh and u c l A took their

1162
01:06:00.519 --> 01:06:04.400
<v Speaker 11>twenty game winning streak to Miami and got upset and

1163
01:06:04.559 --> 01:06:08.800
<v Speaker 11>so and so you think about, you know, Michael Bishop

1164
01:06:08.800 --> 01:06:11.840
<v Speaker 11>getting Kansas State going, You talking about Tim Couch gitting

1165
01:06:11.880 --> 01:06:15.400
<v Speaker 11>Kentucky going, You talking about Kay mcnahw. Well, that's the

1166
01:06:15.519 --> 01:06:19.519
<v Speaker 11>last time UCLA has won a conference championship. It's the

1167
01:06:19.639 --> 01:06:23.519
<v Speaker 11>last time they've been to the Rose Bowl or a

1168
01:06:23.559 --> 01:06:24.679
<v Speaker 11>New Year's Day Bowl game.

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01:06:24.760 --> 01:06:25.079
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

1170
01:06:25.119 --> 01:06:28.039
<v Speaker 11>Sore three very special talents in the same year.

1171
01:06:28.199 --> 01:06:31.800
<v Speaker 1>Amazing. We're talking with Matthew Signed, he's the CEO the

1172
01:06:31.840 --> 01:06:35.480
<v Speaker 1>College Football Hall of Fame. Tim Couch being inducted this year,

1173
01:06:35.559 --> 01:06:38.239
<v Speaker 1>being honored on Saturday, and we'll come back and talk

1174
01:06:38.280 --> 01:06:40.599
<v Speaker 1>more college football with Matthew In just a moment here

1175
01:06:40.599 --> 01:06:43.400
<v Speaker 1>in the Big Blue Insider six thirty WLAP talking with

1176
01:06:43.440 --> 01:06:47.039
<v Speaker 1>Matthew signed. He is the COO of the National Football

1177
01:06:47.079 --> 01:06:49.519
<v Speaker 1>Foundation in College Hall of Fame. We're talking, of course

1178
01:06:49.519 --> 01:06:52.320
<v Speaker 1>about Tim Couch being inducted, going to be recognized this

1179
01:06:52.360 --> 01:06:54.960
<v Speaker 1>weekend at the UK game. I was talking to Tim

1180
01:06:55.559 --> 01:06:57.599
<v Speaker 1>about the list in war What a class. But you

1181
01:06:57.599 --> 01:06:59.559
<v Speaker 1>can say that, I'm sure every year. But I'll tell

1182
01:06:59.559 --> 01:07:02.519
<v Speaker 1>you the name. It takes me back, Matthew Dewey Selman.

1183
01:07:02.840 --> 01:07:05.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean I watched his team's play. That guy was

1184
01:07:05.400 --> 01:07:08.840
<v Speaker 1>a one man wrecking crew. And he was the Selman family,

1185
01:07:09.039 --> 01:07:12.159
<v Speaker 1>like was the first family of Oklahoma football, wasn't it.

1186
01:07:12.920 --> 01:07:17.679
<v Speaker 11>That's right? And you know glad it, you know, became

1187
01:07:17.760 --> 01:07:21.119
<v Speaker 11>his time and and uh, you know, obviously Oklahoma's got

1188
01:07:21.119 --> 01:07:22.519
<v Speaker 11>a lot of you know, a lot of players they

1189
01:07:22.519 --> 01:07:25.440
<v Speaker 11>got to choose from. But I think people when they

1190
01:07:25.480 --> 01:07:28.199
<v Speaker 11>see his highlights footage, you know, they're going to see

1191
01:07:28.199 --> 01:07:31.400
<v Speaker 11>what a what a dominating player you know he was

1192
01:07:31.440 --> 01:07:35.320
<v Speaker 11>at Oklahoma. You know, obviously got overshadowed by Leroy Salmon

1193
01:07:35.519 --> 01:07:39.559
<v Speaker 11>and forgot reason and but just a tremendous player, a

1194
01:07:39.639 --> 01:07:42.639
<v Speaker 11>great nose guard. And you know part of that as

1195
01:07:42.719 --> 01:07:46.000
<v Speaker 11>you look at this list, we really try when they

1196
01:07:46.039 --> 01:07:48.719
<v Speaker 11>when they put a class together, we really try to

1197
01:07:48.760 --> 01:07:54.840
<v Speaker 11>find balance from parts of the country, from a position, uh,

1198
01:07:54.960 --> 01:07:57.880
<v Speaker 11>from different eras you know, we got to make sure

1199
01:07:58.000 --> 01:08:01.639
<v Speaker 11>that you know, we can't pass try and pass people by.

1200
01:08:01.760 --> 01:08:05.480
<v Speaker 11>We have to really reflect because every year is its own.

1201
01:08:05.599 --> 01:08:08.440
<v Speaker 11>So it's great, it's really great to get him in.

1202
01:08:09.199 --> 01:08:11.480
<v Speaker 11>And what probably a lot people don't know about him.

1203
01:08:11.480 --> 01:08:14.400
<v Speaker 11>He was a great student. He was he was one

1204
01:08:14.440 --> 01:08:18.840
<v Speaker 11>of our scholar athletes. So he's very impressive and they'll

1205
01:08:18.880 --> 01:08:19.880
<v Speaker 11>see that induction.

1206
01:08:20.720 --> 01:08:24.119
<v Speaker 1>So many great names, Warwick, Dunn, Larry Fitzgerald, I mean,

1207
01:08:24.319 --> 01:08:27.159
<v Speaker 1>got Lee, Alex Smith, the QB at Utah. We all

1208
01:08:27.159 --> 01:08:29.439
<v Speaker 1>know what he went through with his injuries, but uh,

1209
01:08:29.800 --> 01:08:32.880
<v Speaker 1>you know they he and Urban Meyer putting Utah on

1210
01:08:32.920 --> 01:08:36.680
<v Speaker 1>the map. I love that you're taking Danny woodhead running

1211
01:08:36.680 --> 01:08:39.600
<v Speaker 1>back from a smaller school from Chadwick State back in

1212
01:08:39.640 --> 01:08:41.359
<v Speaker 1>the in the mid odds. I mean, that guy was

1213
01:08:41.399 --> 01:08:43.000
<v Speaker 1>a great football player.

1214
01:08:43.359 --> 01:08:46.119
<v Speaker 11>Great football player, and that's one again another unique thing

1215
01:08:46.119 --> 01:08:48.479
<v Speaker 11>about our Hall of Fame class, and you will see

1216
01:08:49.000 --> 01:08:52.239
<v Speaker 11>every year you will see two to three players from

1217
01:08:52.279 --> 01:08:56.840
<v Speaker 11>the divisional level, so FDS down and you'll see one

1218
01:08:56.920 --> 01:08:59.359
<v Speaker 11>or two coaches from the divisional level. So you know,

1219
01:08:59.399 --> 01:09:03.319
<v Speaker 11>this year you get Armanti Edwardson Appalachian State. Most fans

1220
01:09:03.359 --> 01:09:06.279
<v Speaker 11>will remember him. He was a quarterback when they upset

1221
01:09:06.840 --> 01:09:11.880
<v Speaker 11>number three Michigan. And then you got you know, Randy

1222
01:09:11.920 --> 01:09:15.920
<v Speaker 11>Moss from Marshall. You know, he was unique because he

1223
01:09:16.239 --> 01:09:19.800
<v Speaker 11>was All American at divisional. He was All American and

1224
01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:25.119
<v Speaker 11>FBS and so you know, because he was also an

1225
01:09:25.119 --> 01:09:27.920
<v Speaker 11>All American kick returner in FDS, we kind of.

1226
01:09:27.880 --> 01:09:28.720
<v Speaker 7>Went that route.

1227
01:09:28.760 --> 01:09:32.920
<v Speaker 11>But of course Danny Wood had, you know, just a

1228
01:09:32.960 --> 01:09:36.920
<v Speaker 11>special talent. And again, you know it's easy to see that,

1229
01:09:37.399 --> 01:09:39.239
<v Speaker 11>you know, as Casey kids. He had such a great

1230
01:09:39.359 --> 01:09:42.079
<v Speaker 11>NFL career, but before that, he was a great player

1231
01:09:42.159 --> 01:09:42.800
<v Speaker 11>chattam State.

1232
01:09:43.079 --> 01:09:45.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he really was. And it was so much fun

1233
01:09:45.880 --> 01:09:48.319
<v Speaker 1>to watch the highlights because when his name got out there,

1234
01:09:48.359 --> 01:09:51.000
<v Speaker 1>you used to see more and more highlights from him.

1235
01:09:51.000 --> 01:09:54.159
<v Speaker 1>He really made a name for himself. As we talked

1236
01:09:54.199 --> 01:09:57.159
<v Speaker 1>with Matthew sin about the upcoming College Football Hall of

1237
01:09:57.159 --> 01:10:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Fame class of twenty twenty four coach Mark D'Antonio. People

1238
01:10:01.640 --> 01:10:04.039
<v Speaker 1>around here might remember when he was at Cincinnati prior

1239
01:10:04.079 --> 01:10:07.640
<v Speaker 1>to going to Michigan State, where he made the Spartans

1240
01:10:07.840 --> 01:10:09.880
<v Speaker 1>so relevant up there in the Big Ten. I love

1241
01:10:09.920 --> 01:10:10.680
<v Speaker 1>that choice.

1242
01:10:11.399 --> 01:10:13.720
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, he was did a great I mean, he did

1243
01:10:13.720 --> 01:10:16.000
<v Speaker 11>a great job there and you know, they won the

1244
01:10:16.079 --> 01:10:19.520
<v Speaker 11>hundred Throws Bowl Game. He took him to a semi final.

1245
01:10:20.079 --> 01:10:22.079
<v Speaker 11>And if you if you go back to his day

1246
01:10:22.359 --> 01:10:25.159
<v Speaker 11>at Cincinnati, if you remember he had that, he had that,

1247
01:10:25.359 --> 01:10:27.159
<v Speaker 11>he had that. I think his first big win in

1248
01:10:27.239 --> 01:10:31.359
<v Speaker 11>Cincinnati was the upset Ruggers. The year the Ruggers was

1249
01:10:31.560 --> 01:10:36.159
<v Speaker 11>the undefeated and they were ranked in the top five

1250
01:10:36.279 --> 01:10:39.319
<v Speaker 11>and they got upset by Cincinnati and and the kind

1251
01:10:39.319 --> 01:10:41.800
<v Speaker 11>of you know, took off from there. So I mean

1252
01:10:42.079 --> 01:10:45.000
<v Speaker 11>again and again, you know it's tough for coaches to

1253
01:10:45.039 --> 01:10:48.279
<v Speaker 11>get in as well. But you know, again we take

1254
01:10:48.319 --> 01:10:51.199
<v Speaker 11>great pride in the class. But uh uh no coach

1255
01:10:51.279 --> 01:10:54.760
<v Speaker 11>to Antonio a long time and so just you know,

1256
01:10:54.800 --> 01:10:59.079
<v Speaker 11>what you find out is not the these individuals are

1257
01:10:59.119 --> 01:11:01.520
<v Speaker 11>great players, that which is, but uh you find out

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01:11:01.520 --> 01:11:02.680
<v Speaker 11>they're great people as well.

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<v Speaker 1>What's it like for you and the folks who are

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01:11:05.840 --> 01:11:08.520
<v Speaker 1>part of the Hall of Fame just to be around

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01:11:08.560 --> 01:11:11.680
<v Speaker 1>these guys, because this is the hype for many of them.

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01:11:12.239 --> 01:11:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Some will go onto the Pro Football Hall of Fame,

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01:11:14.039 --> 01:11:16.840
<v Speaker 1>not many. Uh, but you know, you talk about a

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01:11:16.920 --> 01:11:20.840
<v Speaker 1>joyous occasion and their families are there and their friends. Uh,

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01:11:20.680 --> 01:11:24.079
<v Speaker 1>that's just got to be a wonderful atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 11>Now, I mean it really is. And you know, with

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01:11:28.399 --> 01:11:31.079
<v Speaker 11>with with when you go into the Confortball Hall of Fame,

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01:11:31.119 --> 01:11:32.560
<v Speaker 11>we like to say, you get a couple of bites

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01:11:32.560 --> 01:11:33.159
<v Speaker 11>of the apple.

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<v Speaker 9>Uh.

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<v Speaker 11>You know, we make the announcement in January, but then

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01:11:37.399 --> 01:11:41.000
<v Speaker 11>like we're going to experience Saturday night uh at Kroger Field.

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01:11:41.079 --> 01:11:43.199
<v Speaker 11>You uh, you go back to campus and do an

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01:11:43.199 --> 01:11:47.119
<v Speaker 11>on campus salute. So we'll present Tim with a Hall

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01:11:47.159 --> 01:11:50.880
<v Speaker 11>of Fame plaque that that will be the one that

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01:11:50.960 --> 01:11:54.159
<v Speaker 11>the university keeps. And then Tim, you know, Tim gets

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01:11:54.159 --> 01:11:58.359
<v Speaker 11>officially inducted in Las Vegas and that's where the official

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01:11:58.359 --> 01:12:01.520
<v Speaker 11>induction takes place in Las Vegas, December tenth at Blagio.

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01:12:01.600 --> 01:12:04.119
<v Speaker 11>But so it gives you a couple of different chances

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01:12:04.439 --> 01:12:09.960
<v Speaker 11>to you know, have your family evolved, and and and

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01:12:10.640 --> 01:12:15.840
<v Speaker 11>but Faray Knight's gonna be special and Tim, I think

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01:12:16.279 --> 01:12:18.479
<v Speaker 11>I know Tim has been honored a lot of Kentucky.

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01:12:18.520 --> 01:12:21.680
<v Speaker 11>This is gonna look and feel different and he just

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01:12:21.720 --> 01:12:25.760
<v Speaker 11>doesn't know it yet because you hear that, but you

1285
01:12:25.840 --> 01:12:30.399
<v Speaker 11>hear that time and time again that this the the

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01:12:30.399 --> 01:12:34.560
<v Speaker 11>the again, the level of appreciation. Uh, you're in a

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01:12:34.600 --> 01:12:39.439
<v Speaker 11>full stadium, full crowd, all eyes aren't on you. These

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01:12:39.479 --> 01:12:42.159
<v Speaker 11>are these are wonderful moments. I got the Alex Smith

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01:12:43.359 --> 01:12:47.399
<v Speaker 11>on campus salute a few weeks ago, and you know,

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01:12:47.520 --> 01:12:49.600
<v Speaker 11>there's Alex Smith. He's had a lot of success. But

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01:12:50.119 --> 01:12:52.279
<v Speaker 11>you know the next thing you those he's got you know,

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01:12:52.319 --> 01:12:55.119
<v Speaker 11>he's got tears coming out, you know, coming down his cheeks,

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01:12:55.119 --> 01:12:56.800
<v Speaker 11>and it's a big moment.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you've got a list on the on the

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01:12:59.399 --> 01:13:03.880
<v Speaker 1>release about you know what these players have accomplished and

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01:13:04.520 --> 01:13:07.359
<v Speaker 1>under and Couches mentioned more than once, but under players

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01:13:07.399 --> 01:13:10.119
<v Speaker 1>who still hold school records. He's one of nine. I

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01:13:10.119 --> 01:13:12.279
<v Speaker 1>got to tell you, Matthew, those records are going to

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01:13:12.359 --> 01:13:14.439
<v Speaker 1>stand for a while. That guy got it done when

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01:13:14.439 --> 01:13:16.520
<v Speaker 1>he was here, thanks to the area. But I don't

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01:13:16.520 --> 01:13:18.680
<v Speaker 1>care what offense he was running, if it was a

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01:13:18.760 --> 01:13:21.960
<v Speaker 1>quarterback friendly offense. When it came to passing, Tim Koutch

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01:13:22.079 --> 01:13:24.920
<v Speaker 1>was going to get it done, no question.

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<v Speaker 11>And that's that's why I said, you know, you know,

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01:13:28.119 --> 01:13:30.600
<v Speaker 11>you know they needed a catalyst and needed a leader. Yeah,

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01:13:30.920 --> 01:13:33.439
<v Speaker 11>obviously someone who was very talented. In the book that

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01:13:33.840 --> 01:13:37.039
<v Speaker 11>again that proved out and there there is, there is

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01:13:37.119 --> 01:13:38.079
<v Speaker 11>no doubt about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Before I let you go, I got to ask you.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned earlier you worked with CBS Sports back in

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01:13:44.600 --> 01:13:47.840
<v Speaker 1>the day. You work with Vernon Lundquist, who of course

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01:13:48.159 --> 01:13:51.119
<v Speaker 1>retired not long ago. Todd Blackledge as well, spent part

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01:13:51.119 --> 01:13:53.720
<v Speaker 1>of his childhood here in Lexing and he went he

1314
01:13:53.800 --> 01:13:55.840
<v Speaker 1>went to middle school right down the street from where

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01:13:55.840 --> 01:13:59.600
<v Speaker 1>I live. But vern Lundquist, what a talent, what a gentleman.

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01:14:00.119 --> 01:14:03.960
<v Speaker 1>It had to be great working around and with him.

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<v Speaker 11>It was actually it was a real honor and to

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01:14:07.119 --> 01:14:09.560
<v Speaker 11>be able to you know, because usually you'll go in

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01:14:09.680 --> 01:14:11.800
<v Speaker 11>on Friday and you'll talk to the coaches and the

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01:14:11.880 --> 01:14:16.560
<v Speaker 11>coordinators and some players, and you know, sometimes, you know,

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01:14:16.640 --> 01:14:21.600
<v Speaker 11>sometimes there's coaches that make more time than others. But

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01:14:21.680 --> 01:14:23.600
<v Speaker 11>I can tell you one thing, when Vernal Inquist and

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01:14:23.640 --> 01:14:27.000
<v Speaker 11>Todd Blackledge walked in the room, you had, you had

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01:14:27.039 --> 01:14:30.880
<v Speaker 11>those coaches attention, and because I think they had the

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01:14:31.000 --> 01:14:35.760
<v Speaker 11>utmost respect and and Vern and Todd. Todd being the

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01:14:35.760 --> 01:14:38.520
<v Speaker 11>son of a coach, he's been there, he understand it.

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01:14:38.720 --> 01:14:42.920
<v Speaker 11>And Vern had just perfected his craft, and they knew

1328
01:14:43.079 --> 01:14:48.239
<v Speaker 11>what they're going to say to Vern and Todd. You know,

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01:14:48.239 --> 01:14:50.319
<v Speaker 11>it was going to be kept in confidence or only

1330
01:14:50.439 --> 01:14:53.560
<v Speaker 11>use when it came up during the game. But they

1331
01:14:53.600 --> 01:14:58.159
<v Speaker 11>were unique, and everybody loved Vern and the vern you

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01:14:58.199 --> 01:15:02.119
<v Speaker 11>see on TV is Vernon person. He was just a

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01:15:02.319 --> 01:15:06.119
<v Speaker 11>nice human being and one of the best broadcasters we

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01:15:06.279 --> 01:15:10.359
<v Speaker 11>ever had. And the first Kentucky game we did with

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01:15:10.840 --> 01:15:14.239
<v Speaker 11>and with Vern as a play by play, we went

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01:15:14.319 --> 01:15:17.039
<v Speaker 11>to dinner and that dinner, I don't remember his name

1337
01:15:18.039 --> 01:15:21.239
<v Speaker 11>was the was a former Kentucky governor, and so like, oh,

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01:15:21.279 --> 01:15:23.199
<v Speaker 11>this is gonna be this is gonna be a different

1339
01:15:23.479 --> 01:15:25.560
<v Speaker 11>this is gonna be a difference for us walk going

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01:15:25.640 --> 01:15:26.640
<v Speaker 11>to games of Vernon.

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01:15:29.039 --> 01:15:32.279
<v Speaker 1>He was he was broadcasting Royalty and I got a

1342
01:15:32.359 --> 01:15:33.840
<v Speaker 1>chance to say Ilo to him a few times. And

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01:15:33.840 --> 01:15:36.000
<v Speaker 1>then first time I met Todd Blacklitch told him I

1344
01:15:36.079 --> 01:15:38.640
<v Speaker 1>was from Lexingon. Of course his father was an assistant

1345
01:15:39.119 --> 01:15:41.760
<v Speaker 1>under Frank Kersey here and I told him I was

1346
01:15:41.800 --> 01:15:44.960
<v Speaker 1>from Lexingon and he said, how's coach son? So his

1347
01:15:44.960 --> 01:15:48.840
<v Speaker 1>middle school coach who was just a beloved coach, Harry Johnson.

1348
01:15:49.000 --> 01:15:51.439
<v Speaker 1>How's coach Johnson? You know that kind of thing. So

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01:15:51.840 --> 01:15:54.319
<v Speaker 1>I really enjoyed that. And they just did such a

1350
01:15:54.319 --> 01:15:57.079
<v Speaker 1>great job for CBS. I'll let you go with this.

1351
01:15:57.359 --> 01:15:59.880
<v Speaker 1>You were a noseguard man. You played in the trench

1352
01:16:00.119 --> 01:16:02.560
<v Speaker 1>is at right and tough back when it was all

1353
01:16:02.840 --> 01:16:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Southwest Conference. You were an All conference player and as

1354
01:16:05.640 --> 01:16:07.079
<v Speaker 1>I told you, I worked on there. I know how

1355
01:16:07.119 --> 01:16:10.119
<v Speaker 1>tough that league was. But the fact that you you

1356
01:16:10.319 --> 01:16:12.479
<v Speaker 1>grounded out man as a player. But now you get

1357
01:16:12.520 --> 01:16:16.000
<v Speaker 1>to be a part of the uh the ceremonies for

1358
01:16:16.039 --> 01:16:18.960
<v Speaker 1>the College Hall of Fame. What a joy for you?

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01:16:19.000 --> 01:16:21.199
<v Speaker 11>Oh, I trust me, I am blessed. I get to

1360
01:16:21.239 --> 01:16:24.720
<v Speaker 11>work in college football, you know, every day of the year.

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01:16:24.840 --> 01:16:28.640
<v Speaker 11>You know, that's what you know. The foundation is fully

1362
01:16:28.680 --> 01:16:32.640
<v Speaker 11>committed to promoting and protecting the game, and so I

1363
01:16:32.680 --> 01:16:34.800
<v Speaker 11>get to work on it. So you know, we got,

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01:16:34.840 --> 01:16:38.319
<v Speaker 11>we got. There's a lot going on in college sports

1365
01:16:38.319 --> 01:16:41.520
<v Speaker 11>and college football, and I think everyone recognizes that. I

1366
01:16:41.560 --> 01:16:45.439
<v Speaker 11>think we all have to remember how much we enjoy

1367
01:16:46.039 --> 01:16:50.680
<v Speaker 11>our saturdays. You know, Lexington or wherever you are, that

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01:16:50.680 --> 01:16:56.079
<v Speaker 11>that that that special that specialness, that hasn't changed, and

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01:16:57.159 --> 01:16:59.399
<v Speaker 11>we should never let it change because I you know,

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01:16:59.600 --> 01:17:04.600
<v Speaker 11>that's people plan their year around five, six, seven Home Saturday.

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01:17:05.079 --> 01:17:09.239
<v Speaker 11>And I true believe that the fans are going and

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01:17:09.319 --> 01:17:13.199
<v Speaker 11>they love all the players. But you know it doesn't

1373
01:17:13.199 --> 01:17:15.720
<v Speaker 11>matter if they've been there one year, three year. You

1374
01:17:15.760 --> 01:17:18.560
<v Speaker 11>know they're they're they're supporting the UK on the helmet.

1375
01:17:18.640 --> 01:17:21.199
<v Speaker 11>That's right, and that that is what makes our game

1376
01:17:21.319 --> 01:17:26.359
<v Speaker 11>unique and special and and everyone needs to take a

1377
01:17:26.399 --> 01:17:28.800
<v Speaker 11>deep breath and just remember that and this. Enjoy your

1378
01:17:28.800 --> 01:17:29.760
<v Speaker 11>football Saturday.

1379
01:17:30.560 --> 01:17:32.119
<v Speaker 1>If you want to know more about the Hall, go

1380
01:17:32.159 --> 01:17:35.760
<v Speaker 1>to Footballfoundation dot org. Matthew Sign, thank you so much.

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01:17:35.840 --> 01:17:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Next time you're in town, holler at me. But I

1382
01:17:37.920 --> 01:17:39.119
<v Speaker 1>sure I have enjoyed talking to you.

1383
01:17:40.079 --> 01:17:43.560
<v Speaker 11>I enjoyed it and I appreciate uh the time today

1384
01:17:43.640 --> 01:17:46.439
<v Speaker 11>and hopefully I'll see you on Saturday. At some point.

1385
01:17:46.720 --> 01:17:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Matthew will be the one in the stadium helping to

1386
01:17:49.840 --> 01:17:53.800
<v Speaker 1>recognize Tim Couch at Kroger Field. That's going to do

1387
01:17:53.840 --> 01:17:55.439
<v Speaker 1>it for now. Thanks so much to my guests, to

1388
01:17:55.560 --> 01:17:59.359
<v Speaker 1>mister Sign, to Brian Milem and to Rich Brooks. Hope

1389
01:17:59.359 --> 01:18:01.680
<v Speaker 1>you enjoyed the look back at the two winds over

1390
01:18:01.720 --> 01:18:04.640
<v Speaker 1>the Georgia Bulldogs that said good night from the garage

1391
01:18:04.680 --> 01:18:05.920
<v Speaker 1>in Lexingon.

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01:18:05.640 --> 01:18:09.359
<v Speaker 8>We really must be going. Thank you for a memorable afternoon.

1393
01:18:10.199 --> 01:18:12.239
<v Speaker 4>Usually one must go to a bowling alley to meet

1394
01:18:12.279 --> 01:18:42.640
<v Speaker 4>a woman of your statue.
