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Speaker 1: for this. With that being said, let us talk about
Speaker 1: this now Texas. For the past few weeks we had
Speaker 1: brought up the fact that Texas Democrats took off from
Speaker 1: the state rather than coming in to vote on the thing. Right,
Speaker 1: they were afraid of the changing of the times. And yes,
Speaker 1: I understand that Trump was pushing the rezoning and redistricting
Speaker 1: laws in Texas. Of course, the Democrats are not going
Speaker 1: to be happy about it because it's going to give
Speaker 1: Republicans more seats in DC. I understand that. That being said, people,
Speaker 1: regardless of political parties, regardless of which side of which
Speaker 1: aisle they claim to have, a person who was elected
Speaker 1: to be in this position to cast votes on behalf
Speaker 1: of their constituents and then dip out instead of vote
Speaker 1: on them. I feel that as cowardice. I know that
Speaker 1: there are people that will say, well, Republicans have done
Speaker 1: that too, but I feel the same way about them, Like, please,
Speaker 1: don't think that I am throwing more credence towards Republicans
Speaker 1: or Democrats on this. Just call them side A inside
Speaker 1: B for lack of better words. Here, Side A wanted
Speaker 1: to get this thing passed. Side B decided that rather
Speaker 1: than voting for it, which is their job, they would
Speaker 1: dip out and run to other cities that are very
Speaker 1: side b ESQ. Right, doesn't matter, it's it's cowardice, it's wrong.
Speaker 1: These people need to lose their jobs. But that being said,
Speaker 1: it appears that they have finally come back and now
Speaker 1: the vote is able to be passed. Let's get an
Speaker 1: update on what is going on in the Texas House
Speaker 1: with the new congressional map.
Speaker 2: Now a, the Texas House formally voted to advance a
Speaker 2: bill that redraws the state's congressional map.
Speaker 3: It would pave the way for Texans to elect more
Speaker 3: Republicans to Congress. Throughout the day, there has been intense
Speaker 3: pushback inside and outside the House chambers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, kV is Daniel perro is live at the Texas
Speaker 2: Capitol and Daniel, you were inside the House chamber when
Speaker 2: that vote happened.
Speaker 4: What was it like, Well, just a couple of minutes ago,
Speaker 4: you add, Republicans erupt in cheers after that vote inside
Speaker 4: the chamber. Shortly before that vote, we saw really quite
Speaker 4: the scene where you had all the Republicans standing at
Speaker 4: the front microphone while all the Democrats were standing at
Speaker 4: the bat microphone, which is just so symbolic for this
Speaker 4: whole debate and brutal battle that we've seen play out
Speaker 4: here inside this capital over the last several weeks. For
Speaker 4: Democrats today has always been about doing everything they can
Speaker 4: to help in the expected legal challenges to this map.
Speaker 4: HOUSEBO four would significantly change districts in Austin, Houston, North Texas,
Speaker 4: and the Rio Grande Valley. President Donald Trump wants Texas
Speaker 4: to secure five more Republican seats in the US House
Speaker 4: of Representatives. Political observers say this map would likely help
Speaker 4: accomplish that. The author of the bill, State Representative Todd Hunter,
Speaker 4: says he's confident this map is legal. Four of the
Speaker 4: five districts Republicans want to flip our majority Hispanic. Hunter
Speaker 4: notes the changes ad districts that are majority has Spanish
Speaker 4: and Black.
Speaker 5: This plan includes political considerations, public testimony, recognition of population growth,
Speaker 5: and recent changes in voter trends.
Speaker 4: Democrats say the votes of Texans of color will be
Speaker 4: diluted in this new map. They highlight how the redistricting
Speaker 4: is happening mid decade using five year old census data.
Speaker 4: They argue that this is a clear violation of the
Speaker 4: Voting Rights Act and the Constitution.
Speaker 6: It is devastating what you are doing to poor minority communities,
Speaker 6: but it's more devastating at the fact that sometimes you
Speaker 6: can hate someone so much that you will do irreparative
Speaker 6: damage to yourself. That is what you are opening yourselves
Speaker 6: up to, is.
Speaker 4: Take Several of the Democrats expressed frustration throughout the day
Speaker 4: that the proposed map was the first item lawmakers debated
Speaker 4: in the House during the second special session. Say lawmakers
Speaker 4: should instead have prioritized bills related to last month's deadly
Speaker 4: flooding across the state. Republicans say those issues are not
Speaker 4: being neglected. Six bills related to disaster preparedness, relief, and
Speaker 4: warning systems in the wake of that July flood is
Speaker 4: They are all slated to be debated on the House
Speaker 4: floor tomorrow. After the vote, the Speaker used a rare
Speaker 4: procedural move which ended the day, starting a new legislative
Speaker 4: day so lawmakers can take up the bill. They are
Speaker 4: in the process of doing that right now, and once
Speaker 4: they approve the bill for a third time, it will
Speaker 4: then go over to the Senate for consideration. In the
Speaker 4: upper chamber is expected to take up that bill tomorrow
Speaker 4: at the Texas Capital Daniel perro kV News.
Speaker 1: Okay, now it appears that the Democrats came back to work,
Speaker 1: and much to their dismay, the vote passed. So Texas
Speaker 1: is going to get redistricted. I'm sure that's an incorrect word. Apologies.
Speaker 1: The map is going to pass, right, and so it
Speaker 1: appears as of this moment that there will be four
Speaker 1: to five new Republican seats in DC for the state
Speaker 1: of Texas. Now, I understand that Trump was pushing this
Speaker 1: initiative because that's in his best interest. I understand that.
Speaker 1: But all things considered, I am happy that they finally
Speaker 1: came back to work. I feel like that was a
Speaker 1: very bad move on their part, and I don't know
Speaker 1: all the nuances associated with it. That one guy saying
Speaker 1: that this was spurned on by hatred and it was
Speaker 1: marginalizing these groups even more and all of that, I
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, I feel like that's a lot
Speaker 1: of very bold claims for rezoning a map based off
Speaker 1: of population density. But again, I don't know. I don't know. Everybody,
Speaker 1: let me know in the comments what you think about
Speaker 1: what's going on in Texas, right now, do you think
Speaker 1: this is a positive thing a negative thing? Is this
Speaker 1: all part of the overarching political agenda? You know? Do
Speaker 1: you think this is a horrible thing that's going to
Speaker 1: have irreputable damages done to certain communities. You let me
Speaker 1: know what you think, But my statement still stands regardless
Speaker 1: if you're a Republican or a Democrat, or an independent,
Speaker 1: or a libertarian or a Green Party. I don't care.
Speaker 1: If you were elected by your constituents to do a
Speaker 1: job and you decide to run away rather than do
Speaker 1: that job, I feel like you should lose your job. Tony,
Speaker 1: go ahead.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I still don't know what to think of this.
Speaker 7: Part of me is a Republican and I want it,
Speaker 7: but there's no good way. There's no perfect way to
Speaker 7: do democracy. And the way a district is drawn really
Speaker 7: makes a huge impact to who gets to represent the
Speaker 7: people in it. So if you can draw a district
Speaker 7: to you know, clump all of your political enemies into
Speaker 7: very tight geographic areas, then they get way less representation.
Speaker 7: And I understand that politics really is about rewarding your
Speaker 7: friends and punishing your enemies on a certain level. But
Speaker 7: on the other hand, we want to live in a
Speaker 7: high trust society, and part of that involves making a
Speaker 7: sacrifice a little bit. And I don't know what the
Speaker 7: right answer is here, but I would err on the
Speaker 7: side of rewarding one's friends and punishing one's enemies just
Speaker 7: by instinct, I guess, so I guess I supported I.
Speaker 1: And again I don't know if this if they were
Speaker 1: using bad census data right to say that, especially in
Speaker 1: these super densely populated cities in the state of Texas,
Speaker 1: if you're trying to redistrict them, because there's for instance,
Speaker 1: we just had something happen in Baton Rouge right in Louisiana.
Speaker 1: Baton Rouge got sectioned off to where Saint George is
Speaker 1: now Georgia's independent city. The city of Baton Rouge was
Speaker 1: pissed about this, but the inhabitants of Saint George voted
Speaker 1: upon this. They got They did the whole process. It took.
Speaker 1: It started with a petition, they got it, going through
Speaker 1: to the state capitol, all the things, and they finally
Speaker 1: won it. The majority ruled on this. Right, the people
Speaker 1: spoke and they got what they had voted for. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't know if that is the case as far
Speaker 1: as this Texas conversation is concerned did the people in
Speaker 1: these new districts vote for this, did they want this
Speaker 1: to happen, or is this something that they truly feel
Speaker 1: is hurting their overall voice to be heard. I don't know.
Speaker 7: Well, I'm all in favor of secession as much as possible. Yeah,
Speaker 7: And that seems like that's what Saint George did, It's
Speaker 7: what the United States did to Britain, that's what the
Speaker 7: South tried to do to uh, the North, and it's
Speaker 7: what Don Bess did to Ukraine.
Speaker 5: UH.
Speaker 7: And it's what Taiwan and Tibet kind of wanted to
Speaker 7: do to China. And in general I support that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I don't know, I'm call me a true
Speaker 1: conservative or whatever our constitutionalist, however you want to label it.
Speaker 1: I believe in the smallest level of government possible, right,
Speaker 1: I do believe in having the most representation for your
Speaker 1: vote that you can possibly have. Like I live in
Speaker 1: in a neighborhood. We have a thousand houses in this subdivision.
Speaker 1: I for the record, I hate that I live in
Speaker 1: a subdivision with the HLA neither here nor there. If
Speaker 1: this neighborhood was to have its own political entity, that
Speaker 1: could be somebody to lobby for our interests in the
Speaker 1: state capitol. At that level, a thousand houses get one
Speaker 1: political figure to have our voice be heard. I love this.
Speaker 1: That would be amazing. I know that that's way more
Speaker 1: of a micro than whatever happened, but I'm in favor
Speaker 1: of that. But again, I understand that to redistrict means
Speaker 1: that somebody is being left out in the cold right
Speaker 1: no matter what decision ever gets made, someone is getting
Speaker 1: the shit in of the stick here. So I don't
Speaker 1: want to make it sound like I'm a cold harder
Speaker 1: Republican and you know, the Democrats in Texas can just
Speaker 1: get bent. I'm not trying to have that mentality. If
Speaker 1: the data is correct, and if they are rezoning these
Speaker 1: maps based off of accurate census bureaus, then I don't
Speaker 1: really see an inherent problem with it. And it seems
Speaker 1: like the Democrats were having an issue with it and decided, well,
Speaker 1: if I can't play the game my way, I'm taking
Speaker 1: my ball and I'm going home. So and again I
Speaker 1: may be missing a couple steps here. I don't live
Speaker 1: in Texas. That's just what it looks like from the
Speaker 1: outside looking in. So I don't know what to make
Speaker 1: of it, but I am happy that everybody returned back
Speaker 1: to work, and as an auxiliary vote that was being
Speaker 1: passed at this time, I am happy that the relief
Speaker 1: fund that was supposed to go to the flood victims
Speaker 1: is getting released to them because they needed the Republicans
Speaker 1: and the Democrats to show up to work to vote
Speaker 1: on that as well. I know that that was a
Speaker 1: super second and third tier vote compared to the rezoning laws,
Speaker 1: and I hate that, but again, at least the people
Speaker 1: are getting the help that they need. That makes me happy.
Speaker 1: Suck all right, Moving on to the next topic. This
Speaker 1: actually happened last week, and I was going to bring
Speaker 1: it up last week, but just in the mix of
Speaker 1: everything else going on, I didn't get a chance to.
Speaker 1: This is from CBSU News. Excuse me, Yemen intercepts record
Speaker 1: number of Iranian weapons bound for the houthis okay. US
Speaker 1: Scentcom says, let's talk about it here. US Central Command
Speaker 1: says that Yemeny partners successfully intercepted of Jesus these ads.
Speaker 1: Of course, during the way of what I'm trying to read,
Speaker 1: Yemeny partner successfully intercepted a massive Iranian weapons shipment that
Speaker 1: was meant to reach the nation's Hoothy rebels. The Yemeni
Speaker 1: National Resistance Force Forces seized more than seven hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty tons of munitions and hardware, including hundreds of advanced cruise,
Speaker 1: anti ship and anti aircraft missiles, warheads and seekers. Senkam said.
Speaker 1: The seizure also included hundreds of drone engines, radar systems,
Speaker 1: and air defense and communication equipment, as well as manuals
Speaker 1: written in Farsi, Senkam said. Senkam said that the National
Speaker 1: Resistance Forces reported many of these systems were manufactured by
Speaker 1: a company affiliated with the Iranian Ministry of Defense. The
Speaker 1: company is under US sanctions. The mark this marked the
Speaker 1: largest seizure of Iranian advanced conventional weapons in the National
Speaker 1: Resistance Forces history. This is a direct quote here, I'm
Speaker 1: assuming from Senthkam. Yeah, it is actually from the commander
Speaker 1: of Sencom General Michael Eric Carilla, direct quote. We commanded
Speaker 1: the legitimate government forces of Yemen who continued to interdict
Speaker 1: the flow of Iranian munitions bound for the Houthis. The
Speaker 1: intradiction of this massive Iranian shipment shows that Iran remains
Speaker 1: the most destabilizing actor in the region. Limiting the free
Speaker 1: flow of Iranian support to the Houthis is critical to
Speaker 1: regional security, stability and freedom of navigation. Yemen's Hoothy rebels
Speaker 1: spent months launching drones and rocket attacks targeting military and
Speaker 1: commercial vessels in the Red Sea and the Gulf of Eden.
Speaker 1: The attacks targeted vital shipping lanes. The US conducted several
Speaker 1: military strikes against the rebel groups, and May President Trump
Speaker 1: said that the group had capitulated and the US would
Speaker 1: not carry out further strikes. The Hoothies did not comment
Speaker 1: on the alleged agreement at the time. Shocker I know
Speaker 1: the Yemeni rebels attacked the Liberian flagged cargo ship in
Speaker 1: the Red Sea on July eighth. Three people were killed,
Speaker 1: two wounded, and several others were kidnapped. The Houthis also
Speaker 1: claimed that they had attacked and sank another vessel on
Speaker 1: July seventh. The incidents have raised concerns that the Houthis
Speaker 1: may resume attacks in the area. So, while the Hoothies
Speaker 1: seemed at least what we were told as the general
Speaker 1: public is that the hoo Thies were on the back foot,
Speaker 1: they've capitulated they're stopping their their foolishness in this area.
Speaker 1: Then the Yemeni government sees seven hundred and fifty tons,
Speaker 1: was it or did I misread that? Yeah, seven hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty tons of munitions. Now I don't know how
Speaker 1: much each individual RPG weighs, right, I don't know, But
Speaker 1: either way you want to slice it, that is a
Speaker 1: pretty solid stockpile of weapons that we already know that
Speaker 1: the hoo Thies would be using. So it's a good
Speaker 1: thing to see that that got seized. I'm happy about this.
Speaker 1: At least the shipping lanes can remain open. That being said, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think the hoo Thies because they're an insurgent group, right,
Speaker 1: and insurgencies are not going to stop pretty much ever ever,
Speaker 1: so now they're trying to take it to the next
Speaker 1: level and stop the flow of weapons going to them. Now.
Speaker 1: Of course, Iran, being the higher Iran or however people
Speaker 1: pronounce it, is the biggest funder of the Hoothi rebels.
Speaker 1: And I don't mean just money, I mean like weapons
Speaker 1: being shipped from point A to point B. So overall
Speaker 1: good things that this weapons shipment was seized. But how
Speaker 1: do we know that this wasn't also a diversion to
Speaker 1: where two and three and four other shipments made it
Speaker 1: to them. We haven't really heard of anything from the
Speaker 1: Hoothi rebels in this area in a little while. Is
Speaker 1: that because they have finally capitulated or because they also
Speaker 1: don't have the weapons to shoot? I think both they
Speaker 1: are equally viable.
Speaker 7: I think they still have some missiles to shoot. And
Speaker 7: to my knowledge, they've still shut down the Red Sea
Speaker 7: for any ships to go into Israel, So any ships
Speaker 7: going from China to Israel, for example, have to go
Speaker 7: all the way around Africa. That's still true.
Speaker 1: Go ahead.
Speaker 7: The Many said, well, I should say. The Houthi said
Speaker 7: they're not going to attack any more US ships, but
Speaker 7: they reserved the right to attack any ships bound for Israel,
Speaker 7: and Trump said that was good enough, and both declared victory.
Speaker 7: I would characterize the Huthies as the government of Yemen
Speaker 7: and the de facto government of Yemen. They they roll
Speaker 7: over about eighty percent of the population. And this other
Speaker 7: national army of resistance that you're mentioning, I think it's
Speaker 7: way out in the eastern part of the country, which
Speaker 7: is much more sparsely inhabited, but This is the result
Speaker 7: of a civil war in Yemen that went on from
Speaker 7: twenty fifteen until I guess it's still going on. But
Speaker 7: the Huthis have grown a lot in power from twenty
Speaker 7: fifteen to twenty twenty or so, and they basically do
Speaker 7: control the country now, and they control Hodata and Sona,
Speaker 7: and they got access to the Red Sea. That's for Iran.
Speaker 7: This is actually a little surprising to me because most
Speaker 7: of the things I read about Iran right now say
Speaker 7: that Iran's trying to build up its own missile stockpiles
Speaker 7: fast as it can because they think that war, another
Speaker 7: war with Israel, a bigger one, is inevitable.
Speaker 1: Has been saying that since Israel was founded, though that's
Speaker 1: nothing new.
Speaker 7: Well, I think it is new. I think Iran and
Speaker 7: Israel never really attacked each other until a few months
Speaker 7: ago with missiles. There were a few terrorist attacks here
Speaker 7: and there, but like a huge barrage of missiles back
Speaker 7: and forth, that never happened, and they both, to my
Speaker 7: knowledge anyway, they both kind of ran out of missiles.
Speaker 7: So they're both building up as many missiles as they can.
Speaker 7: In the next wave that happens is going to be
Speaker 7: ten times bigger.
Speaker 1: That's fair. Okay, So a couple of things questions to you,
Speaker 1: Tony here. Now, the weapons that were sees, they did
Speaker 1: say there was a lot of drones, a lot of
Speaker 1: motors for drones and things like that. So maybe it
Speaker 1: wasn't so much missiles. I'm sure there were some. But
Speaker 1: I also it wouldn't shock me to hear that Iran
Speaker 1: is selling the who these uh you know, not their
Speaker 1: best missiles that they have, just kind of their older
Speaker 1: stuff that we notoriously the Huthis cannot hit the broadside
Speaker 1: of a barn with the missiles that Iran is sending them.
Speaker 1: This is not me taking an opportunity to take a
Speaker 1: stab at the Iranian military. I'm saying that they're probably
Speaker 1: selling them very antiquated things just to kind of give
Speaker 1: them something, and hey, if they happen to hit something
Speaker 1: with it, then awesome. If not, then well it's not
Speaker 1: like Iran missed it. Anyway. That being said, yeah, Iran
Speaker 1: is trying to build back their own military stockpileot this time,
Speaker 1: I'm with you one hundred percent. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: also you said that Chinese ships going to Israel. Now, yes,
Speaker 1: the Huthis have said that they will no longer hit
Speaker 1: US ships or try to try to hit US ships,
Speaker 1: which is very smart of them. Does China and Israel
Speaker 1: have a open trade relationship. I know that China is
Speaker 1: one of the biggest manufacturers on Earth, but I don't
Speaker 1: really know much about the China Israel connections.
Speaker 7: I was just thrown out China as a stand in
Speaker 7: for anyone in Asia, basically anything from Asia. I don't
Speaker 7: know how good that relationship isn't. My overall impression is
Speaker 7: that the Israeli Chinese relationship is getting worse and worse
Speaker 7: with time. That's my overall impression.
Speaker 1: I could imagine because they're Belt and Road initiative, it
Speaker 1: seems like China is giving a lot of Arab countries
Speaker 1: the hookup. So it just seems like enemy of my
Speaker 1: enemy and friend of my enemy kind of conversation here.
Speaker 1: I don't know that for a fact, right, So to
Speaker 1: say that China being really tight with Pakistan, for instance,
Speaker 1: doesn't inherently mean that China is anti Israel. But at
Speaker 1: the same time, if they're hooking up Pakistan, I can't
Speaker 1: imagine that they are also inherently friends to Israel as well.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I think they used to have a better relationship. In fact,
Speaker 7: Chinese espionage on US military technology used to involve Israel.
Speaker 7: So America gave away some well, America gave away I
Speaker 7: think two heads up displays for some fighter jets, and
Speaker 7: one of them found its way to China, but both
Speaker 7: of them had to go through Israel first. Israel got
Speaker 7: those two heads up displays and I guess they somehow
Speaker 7: somebody gave it in an unauthorized way to China. So
Speaker 7: the US was unhappy about that, but the US didn't
Speaker 7: make a big deal out of it.
Speaker 1: Well, of course not as the Americans can or excuse me,
Speaker 1: the United States government can obviously never be mad at
Speaker 1: Israel about anything ever. So you know, that's just kind
Speaker 1: of one of those things that we brushed on into
Speaker 1: the rug, just like so many others, so many other things.
Speaker 1: But you know what, as we're going into that comp
Speaker 1: natural segue, if you will, let's talk about what is
Speaker 1: going on with Israel right now. So if you were
Speaker 1: on the Live last night, you heard that we talked
Speaker 1: a little bit about this red heifer sacrifice in Israel.
Speaker 1: And we're not gonna spend no real amount of time
Speaker 1: talking about that this evening. All the reports that I
Speaker 1: can find say that it was a rehearsal, and it
Speaker 1: happened in early July. As a matter of fact, I
Speaker 1: don't know why that is just now making its way
Speaker 1: to the American conversation as far as news and media
Speaker 1: and things go. But all right, there are some some
Speaker 1: people out there that are saying that actually it was
Speaker 1: a secret, correct ritual sacrifice and all the things. I'm
Speaker 1: not really going to spend much time talking about that
Speaker 1: this evening. Was it was it not? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm not Jewish, It's not really my shtick. But that
Speaker 1: being said, it's odd that that would potentially line up
Speaker 1: with Israel entering the first stages of a full on
Speaker 1: Gaza City assault. I got an article or excuse me,
Speaker 1: a video pulled up here from NBC News. Let's listen
Speaker 1: to what is going on. As of time of.
Speaker 8: Recording, it has firm that Israel has entered the first
Speaker 8: stages of its planned assault on Gaza City, and Israeli
Speaker 8: military officials says it happened after a clash with Hamas.
Speaker 8: That official also says Israel's military already has a hold
Speaker 8: on the outskirts of the city. It comes just hours
Speaker 8: after Israel said it would call up sixty thousand reservists
Speaker 8: for the Gaza City offensive. That is in addition to
Speaker 8: the seventy thousand already serving. Let's get right to NBC's
Speaker 8: International course bond At Danielle Hamamjin Danielle. What more do
Speaker 8: we know right now about this assault and what happens next?
Speaker 3: It doesn't come as a big surprise, although it's coming
Speaker 3: pretty quickly. I must say, Christine, as you say, sixty
Speaker 3: thousand reservists called up, an additional twenty thousand will see
Speaker 3: their service extended. This is a massive operation they've called
Speaker 3: Gideon's Chariots two. There are eight thousand people, eight hundred
Speaker 3: thousand people living in that area. For Palestinians, this will
Speaker 3: mean that the thousands will be forced to go from
Speaker 3: northern Gaza to southern Gaza. The IDEF says that in
Speaker 3: order to minimize harm to civilians, the IDEF will warn
Speaker 3: the population and allow them to evacuate from maneuver areas
Speaker 3: for their protection. Now, when Palestinians hear the word evacuation, Christine,
Speaker 3: this is usually codeword for displacement, and it comes with
Speaker 3: a visceral fear that they'll never be able to return again.
Speaker 3: This is all coming as we wait for an official
Speaker 3: response by Benjamin Netanyahu on the proposal, the ceasefire proposal
Speaker 3: the Hamas has agreed to. It's been now almost forty
Speaker 3: eight hours, and so speaking to Palestinians in Gaza over
Speaker 3: the past twenty four hours, many were hoping for a
Speaker 3: truce and now and now this, and they will tell
Speaker 3: you they don't believe this operation is to stop Hamas
Speaker 3: from regrouping. They believe this is the beginning of the
Speaker 3: full occupation of Gaza and the complete and total displacement,
Speaker 3: or the attempt totally displaced, displaced the entire population of
Speaker 3: the Gaza strip.
Speaker 1: We thank you for watching, and remember stay all right.
Speaker 1: So as peace talks were allegedly trying to take place,
Speaker 1: there is also a full scale assault going on into Gaza. Now,
Speaker 1: I know, I know this is to the shock of
Speaker 1: everyone listening, right that being said, Yeah, it's it's not
Speaker 1: exactly playing out the way that everybody had hoped. Doesn't
Speaker 1: look like this is going to be wrapped up anytime soon.
Speaker 1: And oddly enough, some of the more liberal platforms for
Speaker 1: lack of better words are actually starting to see the
Speaker 1: insurgency for what it is. It's not a it's not
Speaker 1: a comfortable conversation. I am not in favor of some
Speaker 1: sort of a mass genocide going on anywhere on Earth
Speaker 1: for any reason. I'm not in favor of that. However,
Speaker 1: there was a conversation once upon a time, right when
Speaker 1: America pulled out of Iraq. We founded something called the
Speaker 1: Sons of Iraq. And essentially there was these Iraqis that
Speaker 1: were not in favor of Al Qaeda, they were not
Speaker 1: in favor of any of these terrorist organizations, they were
Speaker 1: not in favor of isol later ISIS, and so American
Speaker 1: forces trained up the bear with me here, the most
Speaker 1: adequate Iraqis that they had, and I use the term
Speaker 1: adequate very loosely, to try to fight against isol and
Speaker 1: ISIS and all these other terrorist organizations, basically saying, hey,
Speaker 1: this is your country, you should fight for it. Here's
Speaker 1: some weapons, here are some training, go take back your country.
Speaker 1: We're not trying to be an imperialist power and take
Speaker 1: new territory for America. You should have control over Iraq.
Speaker 1: So they started, The Sons of Iraq did not go well.
Speaker 1: I should mention but at least that was the thought process, right.
Speaker 1: There was at one time a conversation to say that
Speaker 1: we should have a Sons of Palestine. Right, we should
Speaker 1: take the moderate Palestinians who do not want Hamas to
Speaker 1: be their ruling class the same way like you said, Tony,
Speaker 1: the Houthis are kind of the ruling class of Yemen
Speaker 1: right now. There are people in Yemen that do not
Speaker 1: like the Huthis. They acknowledge them to be a terrorist organization.
Speaker 1: It's a minority, I should mention, but beside the point,
Speaker 1: they do exist. So if you were to give these
Speaker 1: people in Yemen some weapons, some training, and say, hey,
Speaker 1: there's the Huthi rebels, go handle it, go get after it.
Speaker 1: In theory on paper, that would play out well, except Yemen,
Speaker 1: like you said, has been in a civil war for
Speaker 1: a little while, and all that would be doing is
Speaker 1: adding gasoline to a bonfire that's already full blaze. So
Speaker 1: it's not a good situation there. This idea was proposed
Speaker 1: as far as the Sons of Palestine. You find some
Speaker 1: moderate Muslim people who do not want Hamas to be
Speaker 1: in charge of them, and let them go fight Hamas
Speaker 1: for you and take back Gaza, take back the West
Speaker 1: Bank and run it in a purely Palestinian, non harmas way. However,
Speaker 1: there have been more and more videos, in real time videos,
Speaker 1: and I know people are gonna say that it's all propaganda,
Speaker 1: and I'm not one hundred percent denying that, but just
Speaker 1: bear with me here. There was a video I recently
Speaker 1: saw it. By recently, I mean within the last forty
Speaker 1: eight hours of Israeli troops that were clearing a schoolhouse
Speaker 1: in Gaza, okay, And you could tell that they were
Speaker 1: in one room and you saw a picture of you know,
Speaker 1: the human organs and things like that. It was it
Speaker 1: was obvious like an elementary to middle school. If I'm
Speaker 1: gonna use like an American term to describe the schoolhouse itself.
Speaker 1: It was that level of education for that level of adolescence, right.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like a kindergarten class by any means, but
Speaker 1: it was, you know, also not like a college. It
Speaker 1: was somewhere I would say, possibly middle school. And you
Speaker 1: could see these Israeli troops that were doing like a
Speaker 1: CQB or close quarters combat to clear these rooms in
Speaker 1: this schoolhouse. Okay, cool. They roll from one room, they
Speaker 1: push out, go down the main hallway and literally across
Speaker 1: the hallway from the classroom where we had a diagram
Speaker 1: of the human anatomy and a diagram of the periodic
Speaker 1: table of elements and all these things in era by
Speaker 1: my dad, you had a weapons cache. And this was
Speaker 1: not a weapons cash as in a few guns that
Speaker 1: possibly the security liaison, which I understand is an inherently
Speaker 1: American thing. But bear with me again, it's not like
Speaker 1: this was a couple of guns that possibly the school
Speaker 1: of security or police officer would have in his office.
Speaker 9: This was crates of aks, RPGs, belt fed rpk's, and
Speaker 9: then also there was wooden and plastic versions of these
Speaker 9: weapons for the children to train with.
Speaker 1: It is so systemic in the Palestinian culture to fight
Speaker 1: against their quote unquote Israelia pressors that realistically, if the
Speaker 1: world not America, not Israel, if the powers that be
Speaker 1: were to create a Sons of Palestine organization to fight
Speaker 1: against Tamas, they very well may take out Hamas. It's
Speaker 1: very unlikely, but it's possible, right, It's possible they would
Speaker 1: retake Palestine to be a free and independent place in
Speaker 1: the Palestinian image, except the instant that Hamas was gone.
Speaker 1: They would then turn those weapons on Israel and we
Speaker 1: would have it literally would be a wash, because they
Speaker 1: would then start fighting the Israeli quote unquote opressors, and
Speaker 1: we would be back in this conversation like we are
Speaker 1: right now. There's no way to root out an insurgency
Speaker 1: than to actually pull it up by the roots. And
Speaker 1: that sounds horrible, and I do not mean in a
Speaker 1: genocidal way. What I'm saying is that for decades now
Speaker 1: it has been a systemic thing that they're even training
Speaker 1: their children in how to do guerrilla warfare for Israel
Speaker 1: or against Israel. It's not a pretty conversation. And as
Speaker 1: I started doing more digging into this rap hole, that
Speaker 1: wasn't a one off. There's multiple schoolhouses where these children
Speaker 1: are being taught how to use weapons and how to
Speaker 1: hit certain very critical infrastructure in Israel. There was a
Speaker 1: map in another classroom as a matter of fact, of Israel,
Speaker 1: with all of it being one color, not a dual
Speaker 1: state solution by any means. All of the Israeli cities
Speaker 1: were renamed in Arabic, and it wasn't like they put
Speaker 1: Tel Aviv in Arabic writing. They renamed it an entirely
Speaker 1: different name, as if Palestine had taken over and killed
Speaker 1: all the Jews and made it what it is. They
Speaker 1: are teaching this to their children, as if this is
Speaker 1: a dream that they should aspire to achieve.
Speaker 7: What'd you call that dead naming?
Speaker 1: I you know, is that dead naming? Is this a
Speaker 1: Bruce Jenner slash Caitlyn Jenner conversation? I don't know?
Speaker 7: Is dead naming? In two ways? Tell me it's the
Speaker 7: name it was before nineteen forty seven, number one and
Speaker 7: number two. It's the name it would be if all
Speaker 7: the Jews laughter died, right, it's dead naming.
Speaker 1: Actually dead like dead naming. Yeah, yeah, I see what
Speaker 1: you're saying there. So again, I am not in favor
Speaker 1: of Israel Israeli troops killing women and children. I'm never
Speaker 1: gonna be okay with a war fighter on any front ever,
Speaker 1: killing innocence to further their goals. Ever, that being said,
Speaker 1: we also cannot side step the fact that even the
Speaker 1: children are taught to take up arms against their oppressors.
Speaker 1: It's it's a very very muddy, bad situation.
Speaker 7: Okay, I got I got a take on this. I
Speaker 7: think the idea would be a great idea. It presumes though,
Speaker 7: that that Israel wants a peaceful Palestinian state to live
Speaker 7: next to, and I think they do not that they
Speaker 7: do not. Israel actually wants a simmering conflict. They want
Speaker 7: to control the height at the flame. That yeah, who
Speaker 7: has said that twice? Yeah, that's why Israel pressured the
Speaker 7: Treasury Department of the United States and the government of
Speaker 7: Qatar to uh so Kataris gave money to Hamas. Katar
Speaker 7: didn't want to give money to Hamas. Katar said, the
Speaker 7: US Treasury Department is going to sanction us if we
Speaker 7: do that. So the Israelis went to the Treasury Department
Speaker 7: of the United States, So please don't sanction Katar if
Speaker 7: they do this. In the Treasury Department under I think
Speaker 7: it was under yell and said, okay, it might have
Speaker 7: been before that.
Speaker 1: Weird a weird. Uh, it's all you ever seen John Wick?
Speaker 7: No, I actually haven't.
Speaker 1: First of all, homework for you, Tony. You must watch it,
Speaker 1: not that you don't have to watch all five of
Speaker 1: them or eighteen of them. I forget what john Wick
Speaker 1: were on right now. It's kind of it's becoming people,
Speaker 1: it's becoming fast and furious the first one was excellent,
Speaker 1: ye second one kind of third, fourth, and all the
Speaker 1: rest of them. It's like y'all are getting way off
Speaker 1: in the weeds here. But beside the point, there's this
Speaker 1: hotel called the Continental, and basically, this one spot on
Speaker 1: Earth is seen as neutral ground. No killing can be
Speaker 1: done here. It is a meeting place, It is a
Speaker 1: place of business, is a place of all these things.
Speaker 1: Qatar is kind of seen like that, right. It is
Speaker 1: the place where, Oh you're from Russia, you're from America. Well,
Speaker 1: y'all can have a meeting in Qatar, but neither of
Speaker 1: y'all better start drawing weapons on each other or it's
Speaker 1: gonna be bad for everybody. If y'all want to have
Speaker 1: a civil conversation, Qatar is the spot Israel and Palestine,
Speaker 1: y'all want to come to the table. Qatar is a
Speaker 1: good spot. They have tables there and you could play
Speaker 1: ball there kind of thing. But yeah, it's a very loose,
Speaker 1: loose translation of this time. But continue, I'm sorry.
Speaker 7: There was a hotel called the Continental in Munich, and
Speaker 7: my great great uncle Frontz died in a boiler explosion
Speaker 7: there in nineteen thirteen.
Speaker 1: Oh god, that's just a complete.
Speaker 7: Coincidence, but it's one hundred percent true.
Speaker 1: But is it a coincidence? Is that where Nazis met
Speaker 1: with other I'm sorry, good.
Speaker 7: Well, maybe they did later. I actually had two uncle Frances.
Speaker 7: My next uncle, Franz was born in nineteen twenty and
Speaker 7: named France, and then he died in Demyance in nineteen
Speaker 7: forty two. And then my dad was named France after him.
Speaker 7: And my dad's still alive today, so he lived longer
Speaker 7: than both of them put together.
Speaker 1: Damn the war killed him.
Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah, he was in the lift of offa. He
Speaker 7: was on the ground on patrol, and in nineteen forty
Speaker 7: two he he just died. We're not one hundred percent
Speaker 7: sure what happened to him, and I've been trying to
Speaker 7: find out because the Russian government has great archives, but
Speaker 7: I was given a URL I can't access. So maybe
Speaker 7: somebody can help me with that. Someday, get a vpndue.
Speaker 1: You might be able to get it that way.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll try that anyway. Qatar has in Saudi Arabia.
Speaker 7: Saudi Arabia have a lot of very radical Muslims who
Speaker 7: want to, you know, send money to al Qaeda and
Speaker 7: ISIS abroad, but then they got the governments that want
Speaker 7: to clamp down on Muslim extremism. And I would say Israel,
Speaker 7: they want to keep these Gulf states in power, like Qatar,
Speaker 7: Saudi Arabia, and Jordan, but they want most other Arab
Speaker 7: states to be dissolved. So that's they got their way
Speaker 7: in Syria most recently, and in Yemen kind of recently.
Speaker 7: The Hohothies control most of Yemen, but it's still a
Speaker 7: fractured state, and it's got a history of being fractured
Speaker 7: even in the sixties and earlier. And they especially got
Speaker 7: their way in Libya. So you know, give them, give
Speaker 7: them money and weapons to a group to overthrow its
Speaker 7: government can sometimes just permanently fracture a country. And I
Speaker 7: think Somalia even had that happen. I'm never sure what
Speaker 7: exactly is going on there. It always seems fractured. But
Speaker 7: the Israelis do want to keep the Saudi royal family
Speaker 7: in charge as much as possible. They prefer that over
Speaker 7: the devil. They don't know there. The Saudi royal families.
Speaker 7: The devil they know, and they get along pretty well, right,
Speaker 7: And I know I'm getting kind of distracted, but yeah, Jamas.
Speaker 7: I think it'd be a great thing if there could
Speaker 7: be a peaceful government in Palestine. But from the point
Speaker 7: of view of many Palestinians, especially in Gaza, they've tried
Speaker 7: peaceful protests. In twenty eighteen there was a large scale
Speaker 7: one called the March of the Great Return. They all
Speaker 7: carried signs within about three hundred feet of the fence
Speaker 7: that divided Israel from Gaza, and three hundred feet is
Speaker 7: about as close as you're legally allowed to go there.
Speaker 7: And Israeli snipers would snipe a few of them, so
Speaker 7: I don't know how many died. It's nothing compared to
Speaker 7: the current bloodshed. It was probably a couple dozen. But
Speaker 7: one guy in a wheelchair got hit. And they were
Speaker 7: hitting guys in their kneecaps, you know, specifically to cripple
Speaker 7: them instead of kill them. And Israeli true if they
Speaker 7: would post these to telegram and say, oh hey, look
Speaker 7: I got one. So just never got any play in
Speaker 7: American media, mainstream media, but within the Arab world, they
Speaker 7: pissed a lot of people off. And Israel does want
Speaker 7: a certain amount of simmering conflict with Palestine all the time.
Speaker 7: They don't want it to die down too low that
Speaker 7: the border will just freeze. And at the same time,
Speaker 7: they don't want it. They don't want it in October seventh,
Speaker 7: every day, right, they just want enough going on that
Speaker 7: they can keep the gears moving. And as long as
Speaker 7: the gears keep moving, what we just watched in that
Speaker 7: video is Israel's gonna take over the northern half of
Speaker 7: the Gaza script and push everyone there into the south.
Speaker 7: And then you know, phase two, question mark, phase three,
Speaker 7: question mark. They don't know exactly what's next, but they
Speaker 7: they know what direction to push in and they're gonna
Speaker 7: push in that direction. Just keep on making them miserable,
Speaker 7: keep pushing them more and more out of the way.
Speaker 7: Gaza was never part of historic Israeli either if you
Speaker 7: go back to like Wikipedia, where you know you see
Speaker 7: who try which tribe controlled what. It was never part
Speaker 7: of Judah. It was never part of Isakar or Manassa
Speaker 7: or any of the northern ones Ashdat, Ashkalan, and Gaza.
Speaker 7: They were in the far back.
Speaker 1: You go and do because there's one conversation that saved
Speaker 1: from the river to the sea. I've seen maps of
Speaker 1: like Judea at its largest, and there are those that
Speaker 1: say that that is clearly the land that is being
Speaker 1: talked about here when it's like, but you're talking about
Speaker 1: like half of Saudi Arabia in that conversation as well.
Speaker 1: And I don't agree with that for the record, but
Speaker 1: there are those that are of that standpoint. So when
Speaker 1: you say that Gaza was never a part of true Judea,
Speaker 1: like which at which point in history are we talking.
Speaker 7: I'm talking about about seven hundred BC to Jesus, it's time,
Speaker 7: I believe. I believe even in Jesus's time it was Philistia.
Speaker 7: I could look it up, it would just take me
Speaker 7: a while. I can't. Really, No, I'll get it right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it. I get it. I mean we
Speaker 1: and we recently. I just had this conversation with somebody,
Speaker 1: I think either today or yesterday as a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: talking about when Rome was in charge of the land
Speaker 1: of Judea. They even called it Judea until the Jewish revolt,
Speaker 1: right when they tore down the temple and all these
Speaker 1: things in seventy a d. They renamed the Lamb Palestine.
Speaker 1: It was never supposed to be called that, but the
Speaker 1: Romans reclassified at that after the Jewish Uprising. I mean
Speaker 1: you ever seen the movie ben Her.
Speaker 7: Uh? Yeah, I saw like half of it.
Speaker 1: Oh. First of all, if you only saw the first half,
Speaker 1: then you only see that was the worst half. The
Speaker 1: second half is where things pick up. But neither here
Speaker 1: nor not the new one, Not the new one, the
Speaker 1: original one, Charles. Yes, dude, Yes, that's legendary cinematography. Not
Speaker 1: to mention the chariot race that takes place. We're talking
Speaker 1: about stuntmen that were actually getting trampled by horses. There
Speaker 1: was no CGI like I mind blowing, mind blowing movie magic,
Speaker 1: neither here nor there. The Judaean like princely class, the
Speaker 1: Royalty of Judaea and all that. Although they were under
Speaker 1: Roman occupation, there was still a quid pro quo as
Speaker 1: far as it goes. If you want something to happen
Speaker 1: in Judea, yet, you could come in there with your
Speaker 1: legions and you could force it upon the people. But
Speaker 1: that's not going to go well. They understood that the
Speaker 1: land was ruled by Jews or by the Hebrews or
Speaker 1: Israelis or whatever they would have called it at the
Speaker 1: day and age. Palestine as a word didn't come around
Speaker 1: until after the revolt took place. They reclassified the land
Speaker 1: as Palestine, and it's been ran as that ever since.
Speaker 1: So it's I don't know where Gaza was as far
Speaker 1: as prior to the time of Jesus or any of that,
Speaker 1: but I thought it was kind of in the same
Speaker 1: conversation as Judea. Yeah, you had Felicitia, you had the
Speaker 1: Philistines or Philistines, however you want to say it, that
Speaker 1: were occupying this land. But they were always enemies of
Speaker 1: the Jews, and at one point in time they were
Speaker 1: a very very small tribe. They held a very small
Speaker 1: portion of land. I mean, I guess that could be
Speaker 1: what we will call Gaza today.
Speaker 7: Possibly well what I'm looking at some maps right now,
Speaker 7: it chose the Kingdom of Judah was completely landlocked for
Speaker 7: its entire history, and the coastline was called Philistine city
Speaker 7: states including Ashdot and ashkal On, which are in Israel
Speaker 7: now but not Gaza, which well, Gaza is going to
Speaker 7: be in Israel soon, I guess. And in the Hasmonium period,
Speaker 7: which is like four hundred BC to Jesus's time almost
Speaker 7: or maybe one hundred BC, Yeah, it was it was
Speaker 7: still Philistine, and the word philistine or Palestine goes back
Speaker 7: at least as far as four sixty BC, because that's
Speaker 7: when Herodotus wrote about it and that's when he lived.
Speaker 7: So there's been lots of conflicting names about this area
Speaker 7: going back all the way to probably a thousand BC.
Speaker 7: And it's not just one area, there's many. Of course,
Speaker 7: there's the twelve Tribes of Israel and like Issachar and
Speaker 7: Manassa and Dan and I forget all the rest, but
Speaker 7: there's you know, it's subdivided quite a.
Speaker 1: Bit, twelve tribes, but only subdivided into ten areas because
Speaker 1: Dan got kicked out and then the Levites didn't inherit Land,
Speaker 1: so you had ten tribes, ten sections. I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that.
Speaker 7: But Manassa and Dan and one of the other ones
Speaker 7: were actually east of the Jordan River. So that makes
Speaker 7: me wonder does Israel wanted that back too, because they
Speaker 7: seem to prefer the Hashemite government Jordan and they consider
Speaker 7: that the devil. They know, they don't want that to
Speaker 7: be a fractured stake, but that could change. I think
Speaker 7: that probably will change. I think within our lifetime, within
Speaker 7: the next fifty years, there will probably be an Israeli
Speaker 7: war with Jordan, and we won't be talking about the
Speaker 7: west bank of the Jordan River anymore. We will be
Speaker 7: talking about the east bank.
Speaker 1: If that was to take place. So the Jordanian king
Speaker 1: right now, he's not a fan of net and Yahoo.
Speaker 1: He's not a fan of Israel. However, he sees them
Speaker 1: as a necessary evil in the short term, you know.
Speaker 1: And the Kingdom of Jordan, the last time that they
Speaker 1: actually took an offensive against Israel from not mistaken, was
Speaker 1: during the Sixth Day War, right when they had all
Speaker 1: these nations come at them at the exact same time.
Speaker 1: Egypt tried taking the southern portion. Jordan tried to jump
Speaker 1: in and into the mix to expand their own territory.
Speaker 1: But that was the last time that Jordan actually took
Speaker 1: a offensive stance against Israel. At one point in time,
Speaker 1: they took kind of a you know, everybody, I was
Speaker 1: telling middle fingers at each other, but nobody was firing
Speaker 1: or shot. Then they got to the point of where
Speaker 1: the Jordanian king and net and Yaho are very tense.
Speaker 1: I'm afraid to call them allies. I feel like that
Speaker 1: might be a misnomer as well. But they don't hate
Speaker 1: each other, but they don't love each other either.
Speaker 7: Most of the Arab world, especially the anti Israel world,
Speaker 7: sees Jordan as sewn up by Israel and a friend
Speaker 7: of Israel. So when Iran was launching a bunch of
Speaker 7: missiles at Israel a couple of months ago, geographics Jordan's
Speaker 7: right in between, and Jordan's shot down a lot of them.
Speaker 7: So you know, I'd say Jordan is still mostly on
Speaker 7: Israel's side, and Israel isn't going to let that government fall.
Speaker 7: That's also the reason that the Muslim Brotherhood is not
Speaker 7: designated the designated a terrorist organization because there's about a
Speaker 7: million members of the Muslim Brotherhood in Jordan.
Speaker 1: Wait, I'm sorry, Since when is the Muslim Brotherhood not
Speaker 1: listed as a terror organization?
Speaker 7: I'm pretty sure it's still not.
Speaker 1: By who I know is in America, Darth they I.
Speaker 7: Mean, I would have to look that up. I maybe
Speaker 7: I'm remembering back to when they weren't, but I know
Speaker 7: that it's been under consideration.
Speaker 1: Now you got me messed up. I'm gonna look this up. Now.
Speaker 1: Is the Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist organization in America? Because
Speaker 1: I mean, every country lists their own, like the ira
Speaker 1: is considered a terrorist organization Ireland. I don't think America
Speaker 1: has that designation, so, like, you know, I get it,
Speaker 1: but hold on.
Speaker 7: They were formed in Egypt in nineteen twenty eight and
Speaker 7: they're really big and uh in Jordan. Right now, this
Speaker 7: is gonna we should probably pause or something.
Speaker 1: But I mean, I'm I'm gonna look this up. Let's see,
Speaker 1: we're we're I'm Google searching this one at this moment.
Speaker 1: Let's see what pops up.
Speaker 7: Even just Ai mode isn't considered a terrorist.
Speaker 1: Ye, yeah, Ai is generating answer. Let's see. Several countries,
Speaker 1: including Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates, bah Rain, Jordan, Austria,
Speaker 1: and Russia, have officially designated the Muslim Brotherhood as a
Speaker 1: terrorist organization. So Jordan has them listed as a terrorist organization.
Speaker 1: Some of these designations have been relatively recent, with Austria
Speaker 1: and Jordan joining the list in recent years. However, the
Speaker 1: United States has not, to your point, Tony, the United
Speaker 1: States has not designated the Muslim Brotherhood as a whole
Speaker 1: as a foreign terrorist organization. While multiple US allies in
Speaker 1: the Middle East and Europe have taken such action, the
Speaker 1: US stance is more nuanced. The US has, however, designated
Speaker 1: several affiliates of the Muslim brotherhoods such as Hamas and Hassum,
Speaker 1: as terrorist organizations. So okay, so I was not up
Speaker 1: to date.
Speaker 7: Jordan has banned the Muslim Brotherhood earlier this year, it says,
Speaker 7: So my information was out of date, But I don't
Speaker 7: feel too bad.
Speaker 1: As was mine. I honestly thought America had the Muslim
Speaker 1: Brotherhood listen as a terrorist group. So we were both
Speaker 1: equally the wrong and equally right on this one. This
Speaker 1: is interesting times, but neither here nor there. So I
Speaker 1: don't know. I think that Jordan, like you said, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying they're a full on Israeli puppet. I don't
Speaker 1: want to go that route with it. But the Jordanian
Speaker 1: king absolutely sees Israel in if we're gonna, if we're
Speaker 1: gonna put it on like a pH scale, it is
Speaker 1: just upwards on the positive side of neutrality. He's definitely
Speaker 1: he's definitely more in favor of NET and Yahoo than
Speaker 1: he is against him. And I'm I feel comfortable making
Speaker 1: that statement at.
Speaker 7: Least, Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, I don't know what's gonna shake out with
Speaker 1: all this. I don't want to see innocence uh murdered
Speaker 1: for Hamas to get their way or for the IDEF
Speaker 1: to get their way either. I've said this before. If
Speaker 1: we're looking for some sort of a good guy in
Speaker 1: the conversation, none can be found own honestly, And I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that every single person in Palestine is evil.
Speaker 1: I am not saying that every single idea of soldier
Speaker 1: is evil. Just don't don't misinterpret my words here. The
Speaker 1: people that are actually calling the shots on this one,
Speaker 1: I don't believe that there's anyone there actually acting on
Speaker 1: the side of morality and justice anymore. To be honest,
Speaker 1: I don't. I am personally just Jacob speaking on behalf
Speaker 1: of Jacob. I don't think this entire situation in Israel
Speaker 1: and gods and all that was ever a morality thing.
Speaker 1: And I understand, Oh do you do you remember what
Speaker 1: Hamas did when they came in and they took the
Speaker 1: hostages and all that. I'm person of the belief that
Speaker 1: was a part of a plan. Maybe this is just
Speaker 1: my conspiratorial brain coming out, but I find it very
Speaker 1: odd that Biden randomly found six billion dollars to give
Speaker 1: to Iran for some prisoners quote unquote, even though the
Speaker 1: whole stipulations to that deal was very, very weird, and
Speaker 1: nobody actually could make sense of why we gave six
Speaker 1: billion to Iran. Next thing, you know, Iran being a
Speaker 1: super you know, supporter, let's let's leave it, a supporter
Speaker 1: of Hamas. Next thing, you know, Hamas has all of
Speaker 1: these weapons, all of this man power, all of that
Speaker 1: is around the Israeli border, and Moussad I don't even
Speaker 1: think it's an argument to be said, Mussad being the
Speaker 1: greatest intelligence organization on earth as of this moment, especially
Speaker 1: over there quote unquote open air prison of Gaza. If
Speaker 1: we believe that they missed, they they just didn't see
Speaker 1: the amassing of troops and the amassing of weapons, and
Speaker 1: the paragliders and all these they missed one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: They just had no clue and got caught with their
Speaker 1: pants down, because that's something that Moosad does. Ever. But
Speaker 1: all right, I am person of the belief that at
Speaker 1: the powers that be, I mean, you want to drop
Speaker 1: names and say that in Yahoo or Biden or whatever,
Speaker 1: maybe yes, maybe no, But I believe that the true
Speaker 1: powers that be knew that it was going to take place,
Speaker 1: allowed it to take place so it could kickstart the
Speaker 1: entire conflict as we see unfolding before our eyes. So
Speaker 1: I don't believe that there are any good guys to
Speaker 1: be found anywhere in this conversation. Just me.
Speaker 7: Yeah. I feel like it's like Pearl Harbor and FTR
Speaker 7: wanted Pearl Harbor to happen, yep, and Israeli Zionis wanted
Speaker 7: the October seventh attack or something like it to happen.
Speaker 7: Maybe not exactly on that scale. Maybe they would have
Speaker 7: preferred it to be a little less, but they needed
Speaker 7: something like that to exploit.
Speaker 1: I think it's the USS independence. I think it is
Speaker 1: Pearl Harbor. I think it is the Gulf of Tonkin.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that there wasn't a shit that exploded.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that lives weren't lost. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that it was a complete false flag and it was
Speaker 1: a complete op. What I'm saying is the attack was
Speaker 1: allowed to happen.
Speaker 7: Presumed that these border guards they should have been training
Speaker 7: for what happens if you have a breach? What do
Speaker 7: you do? That should just be part of training, you know,
Speaker 7: drills every week or so. I assume that our troops
Speaker 7: and our border patrol do stuff like that, yes, and
Speaker 7: I guess the Israeli border patrol never did anything like
Speaker 7: that at all. That's my problem.
Speaker 1: They do get trained in that. I know for a
Speaker 1: fact that they get trained in that, So that's my point.
Speaker 1: So they just got caught slipping by their alleged open
Speaker 1: air prison population. The prison guards just happened to be
Speaker 1: missing that day and the prisoners were able to take
Speaker 1: over the prison and launch an invasion. I have a
Speaker 1: hard time believing the comedy of errors that occurred to
Speaker 1: where that could happen personally. So yeah, as far as
Speaker 1: this conversation goes, I hope that this hit whole Gaza
Speaker 1: Israel thing gets resolved sooner rather than later. That being said,
Speaker 1: as Israel is launching Phase one of their Gaza offensive,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna get wrapped up anytime soon.
Speaker 1: So anyway, we will keep everybody posted on this as
Speaker 1: it plays out into the future. Now back to the
Speaker 1: conversations at hand again, This is from about a week ago,
Speaker 1: and I meant to bring it up last week, but
Speaker 1: I thought it was actually kind of funny and it
Speaker 1: is a weird segue into the Russia Ukraine conversation. So
Speaker 1: Sony closes all operations in Russia after eighteen years, ending PlayStation,
Speaker 1: music and film presence. Now, I'm not saying that this
Speaker 1: is gonna cripple Putin and cripple Russia. Don't misinterpret my
Speaker 1: words here, But I'm just saying it's funny that Sony,
Speaker 1: of all things, a gaming company and a music company,
Speaker 1: and yes they have their hand in movies as well,
Speaker 1: decide that they are going to be pulling out of
Speaker 1: all Russian business. Let's read it in here. This is
Speaker 1: from United twenty four Media. Sony has formally ended its
Speaker 1: presence in Russia, dissolving its local subsidiary, Sony Mobile Communications
Speaker 1: Roots on August eleventh. According to the United States Register
Speaker 1: of Legal Entities, the Japanese technology company had operated in
Speaker 1: Russia since two thousand and six, marking and eighteen year presents.
Speaker 1: Liquidation documents were submitted to the facts A Federal tax
Speaker 1: service in October twenty twenty four, following an earlier unsuccessful
Speaker 1: attempt to close the business in twenty twenty three, and
Speaker 1: its final year is a subsidiary primarily sold remaining stock
Speaker 1: and provided device servicing. Sony announced its devices I'm Sorry
Speaker 1: its decision to exit Russia shortly after the full scale
Speaker 1: invasion of Ukraine in February twenty twenty to joining other
Speaker 1: companies in supporting international sanctions. In March twenty twenty two,
Speaker 1: the corporation halted console shipments, suspended PlayStation store operations, and
Speaker 1: donated two million dollars to assist Ukrainians affected by the
Speaker 1: war through the UN and Save the Children. Sony Pictures
Speaker 1: Entertainment also stopped releasing films in Russia, while Sony Music
Speaker 1: ceased operations in September twenty twenty two, removing foreign catalogs
Speaker 1: from local streaming services and spinning off its Russian division
Speaker 1: into an independent label. In twenty twenty four, the company
Speaker 1: began closing its branded stores in Russia, completing the process
Speaker 1: by summer due to the lack of product supply. Financial
Speaker 1: results reflect the decline a net loss of one point
Speaker 1: four to three billion ruples, which is about fifteen point
Speaker 1: nine We could round that up to sixteen million dollars
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two and give or take five point
Speaker 1: nine million in twenty twenty three, followed by a modest
Speaker 1: profit of one point two million in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: These are USD by the way, I say the million
Speaker 1: generated solely from warranty and administrative services. Revenue dropped by
Speaker 1: approximately seventy six percent over the period earlier. A March
Speaker 1: twenty fifth report by Russian consulting firm KEPT found that
Speaker 1: about sixty two percent of Western companies with significant assets
Speaker 1: in Russia had exited since the start of the full
Speaker 1: scale invasion of Ukraine, with most transferring assets to domestic
Speaker 1: buyers or local management. So again, it's not I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that Sony is going to be the thing that
Speaker 1: ends the war by any means, but it's yet another company,
Speaker 1: and it's a Japanese company at that, that have pulled
Speaker 1: out full stop from Russia because of the situation there. Now,
Speaker 1: Trump is confident that the Russia and Ukrainian leaders will meet,
Speaker 1: despite Russian doubts. For anybody that missed it, Putin and
Speaker 1: Trump had a very good meeting in Alaska, Yeah, saying
Speaker 1: that they came to an agreement, but it seemed that
Speaker 1: both parties left that meeting feeling very good about the meeting. Ukraine, obviously,
Speaker 1: Zelenski is very pissed that that meeting took place without him,
Speaker 1: But we got to get to it right. We got
Speaker 1: to start the process some way, shape or form. Trump
Speaker 1: had already met with Zelensky and finally got him to
Speaker 1: the conversation right and said that, hey, we will launch
Speaker 1: our mining operations on the eastern side of Ukraine. If
Speaker 1: you agree to this, we will bring Russia to the
Speaker 1: table to have these conversations. Zelensky was pissed, but he
Speaker 1: finally agreed and said, fine, we will give you the
Speaker 1: mineral rights as long as you can end this war.
Speaker 1: Russia said, no, no way in hell, we have no
Speaker 1: interest in any this warring time soon. Now. Trump and
Speaker 1: Putin just met in Alaska. They both left feeling very
Speaker 1: good about it. Let's listen in on some of the
Speaker 1: possible conversations that took place there. This is from a
Speaker 1: local four from Detroit. Let's listen in. Where and when?
Speaker 10: Those are the two big questions surrounding President Trump's wish
Speaker 10: to have the leaders of Russia and Ukraine meet face
Speaker 10: to face to finally end this war. But today the
Speaker 10: Russians are publicly sounding less committed to a meeting with
Speaker 10: Ukrainians than President Trump. Had expressed, as Monica Alba shows US.
Speaker 10: This comes as attacks in eastern Ukraine continue.
Speaker 1: To ramp up.
Speaker 11: President Trump continuing to express confidence that the leaders of
Speaker 11: Russia and Ukraine could soon meet face to face to
Speaker 11: negotiate an end to their three and a half years
Speaker 11: long war.
Speaker 12: We're going to try and stop it, and I think
Speaker 12: we have a good shot.
Speaker 11: But today the Russians are throwing cold water on that mind,
Speaker 11: the Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov saying that talks between
Speaker 11: lower level Russian and Ukrainian officials must take place before
Speaker 11: sit down between the country's presidents is set. Lavrov adding
Speaker 11: that discussions about security guarantees for Ukraine now taking place
Speaker 11: among US and European leaders, but not the Russians, are
Speaker 11: a quote road to nowhere. Despite that, more than third
Speaker 11: NATO military leaders held a video conference today to talk
Speaker 11: about what security guarantees for Ukraine which would satisfy both
Speaker 11: Ukraine and Russia might look like. It comes after another
Speaker 11: intense night of Russian bombing in eastern Ukraine. Officials there
Speaker 11: say sixty drone strikes injured more than a dozen people.
Speaker 7: The Russians have no interest and they've demonstrated no interest
Speaker 7: in stopping this war.
Speaker 11: Former Ambassador to Ukraine Bill Taylor says Russia has no
Speaker 11: incentive to negotiate with Ukraine.
Speaker 7: He said, They're going to drag it out.
Speaker 5: They want to continue to pound the Ukrainians until they
Speaker 5: get what they want, and that's why standing up to
Speaker 5: them is the only way to do it.
Speaker 11: Some lawmakers now urging the president to get tougher on
Speaker 11: President Putin.
Speaker 7: I think the only way to do that if he
Speaker 7: does not move forward quickly with this summit or with
Speaker 7: a ceasefire, is with very strong sanctions.
Speaker 11: The White House has not said where a meeting between
Speaker 11: Vladimir Putin and Voladimir Zelenski could take place or when,
Speaker 11: but an administration official said Budapest, Hungary, and Geneva Switzer
Speaker 11: are two possible locations that are being discussed. Monica Alba,
Speaker 11: NBC News, Washington.
Speaker 10: President Trump insists that US troops will not be deployed
Speaker 10: to help protect Ukraine after the war is over, but
Speaker 10: the President says the US could provide air support to
Speaker 10: the Ukrainians.
Speaker 1: We'll have much.
Speaker 10: More from Washington, d C on nightly News tonight.
Speaker 1: Right, all right, So that was from NBC. I should add,
Speaker 1: so the meetings seem to have gone well, and again
Speaker 1: they're not saying anything that we haven't said before. A
Speaker 1: quick expedient into this conflict is in the best interest
Speaker 1: of everybody. Yeah, duh. That was the entire point. This
Speaker 1: special military operation was only supposed to last two weeks.
Speaker 1: We are at three and a half years of it
Speaker 1: as of this moment. I believe we're gonna see the
Speaker 1: fourth year old around. But again, it seems like Putin
Speaker 1: might be more willing as of this particular moment in
Speaker 1: time to come to the negotiation table. I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's a true statement or not. I only have hopes. Now,
Speaker 1: let's talk about Trump's security guarantees quote unquote for Ukraine
Speaker 1: and it does this actually line up with what we
Speaker 1: just heard. Let's listen in This is from WMAZ thirteen.
Speaker 12: Yes, and European allies pushing ahead with plans for how
Speaker 12: to protect Ukraine if the war with Russia comes to
Speaker 12: an end.
Speaker 8: A potential summit with the leaders of both of those
Speaker 8: warring nations continues to be negotiated.
Speaker 1: Netlie Brand has more details for the Whitehouse.
Speaker 13: Ukraine says a drone strike overnight injured fourteen people, including
Speaker 13: young children. President Vladimir Zelinsky says a separate attack damaged
Speaker 13: five apartment buildings, and he called for strong security guarantees
Speaker 13: to ensure a truly, reliable and lasting peace. US Secretary
Speaker 13: of State Marco Rubio is discussing what form that could
Speaker 13: take with European allies, as NATO defense chiefs hold a
Speaker 13: virtual meeting today to continue working out details. Russia is
Speaker 13: sounding off against any NATO troops on the ground in Ukraine,
Speaker 13: with the Foreign Minister saying discussing security issues without Russia
Speaker 13: is a quote road to nowhere. The Kremlin is also
Speaker 13: not confirming that Russian President Vladimir Putin will participate in
Speaker 13: direct talks with Ukrainian President Zelenski, but the White House
Speaker 13: as Putin promise President Trump he would take part.
Speaker 14: I can't tell you.
Speaker 1: There are many options that are being discussed by our
Speaker 1: national security team right now with both parties.
Speaker 13: Source tells CBS News Budapest, Hungary, is one city under
Speaker 13: consideration for the Putin Zelensky talks. The White House hopes
Speaker 13: to have a date and location set by later this week.
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe I'm just speaking on behalf of
Speaker 1: myself here. But even if you were to get Zelenski
Speaker 1: and Putin into a room together, I have a hard
Speaker 1: time believing that they would have a productive conversation to
Speaker 1: actually bring about the end of the war. I feel
Speaker 1: like both of them are very eageric dudes, And I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that to shit on one side or the other.
Speaker 1: I think that's just kind of the nature of the
Speaker 1: beast on this one. Zelenski wants Crimea to be back
Speaker 1: into the realm of the Ukrainian people, and Putin wants
Speaker 1: to at least keep the lands that have already been
Speaker 1: taken up until this point, I don't see them coming
Speaker 1: to any kind of real agreement on this. However. Trump
Speaker 1: whispers a crazy Putin deal theory to Emmanuel Macron in
Speaker 1: a hot mike moment. This just happened, as a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, let's talk about it. Trump's comments came during
Speaker 1: a Monday meeting with European leaders as he looks to
Speaker 1: secure a peace deal between Russian and Ukraine. Uh, this
Speaker 1: is a video. We're gonna play that in just a second,
Speaker 1: but let's just read about it first. President Trump was
Speaker 1: heard in a hot mic moment whispering to French President
Speaker 1: Emmanuel Macrone. Yes, the same Macrone that is married to
Speaker 1: a dude that people call brigit. But conversation for another day.
Speaker 1: And Kennice owens that he believes Russian President Vladimir Putin
Speaker 1: wants to make a peace deal for the US. Leader
Speaker 1: Trump is really of the belief that he is so
Speaker 1: smooth at talking that he's got Putin eating out of
Speaker 1: the palm in his hand, and he really wants to
Speaker 1: make it happen, remarking the hunch even sounded crazy to him,
Speaker 1: direct quote, I think he which is Putin, wants to
Speaker 1: make a deal. I think he wants to make a
Speaker 1: deal for me. You understand that Trump was heard telling
Speaker 1: Macrone ahead of a multilateral meeting with European leaders Monday,
Speaker 1: as crazy as it sounds. Top European leaders converged on
Speaker 1: the White House Monday when Trump haild his highly anticipated
Speaker 1: meeting with Ukrainian President Zelensky in the hopes of brokering
Speaker 1: a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine, a middle ward
Speaker 1: that has raged since the winter of twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1: Trump spoke with the European leaders following his meeting with Zelensky,
Speaker 1: which included discussions on quote unquote security guarantees for Ukraine,
Speaker 1: which guarantees would be provided by the various European countries
Speaker 1: with a coordination with the United States of America. Trump
Speaker 1: said on Truth's Social Monday of the meeting, so let's
Speaker 1: see five key moments now, I'm not worry about that.
Speaker 1: European leaders who joined the meeting at the White House
Speaker 1: Monday included Macrone, Finished President Alexander Stubb, Italian Prime Minister
Speaker 1: Georgia or yeah, I think Georgia Maloney, UK Prime Minister
Speaker 1: Keir Starmer, German Chancellor Frederick Murrs, and European Commissioner President
Speaker 1: Ursula von der Leyton and NATO Secretary General Mark Root.
Speaker 1: Macrone joined NBC News following the White House meeting and
Speaker 1: was asked point blank about Trump's comments to him. There
Speaker 1: is a direct quote here. What went through your head
Speaker 1: when he said that to you, NBC's Christian Welker asked
Speaker 1: Macrone after the transcript of Trump's exchange with mcrone earlier
Speaker 1: that day. McCrone celebrated the exchange as evidence of Trump's
Speaker 1: conviction the war between Ukraine and Russia will end. Direct
Speaker 1: quote at the end of the day, if we have
Speaker 1: a deal which is compliant with the long standing and
Speaker 1: robust piece, this is great news, what Crohne said during
Speaker 1: the Monday interview, continuing the quote, and your president indeed
Speaker 1: is very confident about the capacity he has to get
Speaker 1: the deal done, which is good news for all of us,
Speaker 1: and can break this. I would say this daily killings.
Speaker 1: When asked about the hot mic exchange, a White House
Speaker 1: spokesperson told Fox News Digital that Trump is the only
Speaker 1: world leader who has gotten Putin to join the negotiation
Speaker 1: table for a potential peace deal as war rage for
Speaker 1: more than three years, quoting here, as President Trump has
Speaker 1: said he has a good relationship with President Putin and
Speaker 1: only he was able to bring President Putin to the
Speaker 1: table for a peace deal. The spokesperson said, European leaders
Speaker 1: recognize that after three years of killing and deadlock under
Speaker 1: weak Joe Biden, there has been more progress towards peace
Speaker 1: than ever before because of the President's leadership. Trump joined
Speaker 1: Fox and Friends Tuesday morning and said he intends to
Speaker 1: let Putin and Zelensky meet one on one before moving
Speaker 1: forward with peace negotiations, which could include a landswap deal.
Speaker 1: They haven't exactly been the best of friends, Trump said Tuesday.
Speaker 1: Maybe they're getting along a little bit better than I thought.
Speaker 1: Otherwise I wouldn't have set up the two of them
Speaker 1: a meeting. I would have set up a trilateral meeting.
Speaker 1: Trump added that the negotiations would not include omitting or
Speaker 1: admitting Ukraine into NATO, but said some European nations have
Speaker 1: agreed to provide NATO like protections, including security guarantees. I
Speaker 1: don't know how accurate that is, but we shall see.
Speaker 1: Trump met with Putin in Alaska Friday, which did not
Speaker 1: yield a peace deal, but open the door for more
Speaker 1: in depth peats talks. Following Trump's campaign trail pledged to
Speaker 1: indie bloody war that began under his predecessor's tenure. Trump
Speaker 1: called Putin following his White House meeting Monday and set
Speaker 1: the table for a meeting between Putin and Zelensky. He
Speaker 1: said on a truth social post this week. At the
Speaker 1: conclusion of the meeting, I called President Putin and began
Speaker 1: the arrangements for a meeting at a location to be
Speaker 1: determined between President Putin and President Zelenski. That was Trump's post,
Speaker 1: Continuing it says after that meeting takes place, we will
Speaker 1: have a tri trial it which would be the two
Speaker 1: presidents plus myself. Again, this was a very good early
Speaker 1: step for a war that has been going on for
Speaker 1: almost four years. Vice President JD. Van, Secretary of State
Speaker 1: Marco Rubio, and Special Envoy Steve Whitkoff are coordinating with
Speaker 1: Russia and Ukraine. Thank you for your attention on this matter.
Speaker 1: Now I want to see and hear this hot mic
Speaker 1: moment and let's see what actually was said in the
Speaker 1: tone thereof.
Speaker 15: A little tangent. Good, great, thank you for pod event
Speaker 15: which I.
Speaker 7: Set.
Speaker 1: Lady.
Speaker 15: I think he wants to make a deal for me.
Speaker 12: Understand that, as crazy as it sounds, you sit down,
Speaker 12: Sit down, everybody.
Speaker 15: I think we'll let we'll let please.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that didn't sound too convincing to me.
Speaker 12: He's a tall guy, good looking, incredible.
Speaker 15: Isn't it just it's such an incredible place. Well, we're
Speaker 15: building a big ballroom, beautiful right here.
Speaker 14: If you go, it would be right through that, right
Speaker 14: through here.
Speaker 15: It's gonna be, I'll tell you, but it's going to be.
Speaker 15: It's going to be fantastic. Actually, you can let.
Speaker 1: Them come in, all right. So again that didn't sound
Speaker 1: too convincing to me personally. I think he wants to
Speaker 1: make a deal with me, believe it or not. As
Speaker 1: crazy as it sounds, I think he wants to make
Speaker 1: a deal with me. You understand that it sounds like
Speaker 1: he's just kind of talking shit to try to flex
Speaker 1: on the cron I could be wrong here. Let's see.
Speaker 1: This is another clip. This is from Fox News. As
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, let's see what they have to
Speaker 1: say on it.
Speaker 16: President Trump making major progress toward peace and high stakes
Speaker 16: talks with Ukrainian President Zelenski and European leaders in the
Speaker 16: Oval Office yesterday.
Speaker 1: Look at that picture.
Speaker 6: President Trump also confirming a meeting between Russian President Putin and.
Speaker 3: Zelenski is in the works before he hopefully meets them together.
Speaker 17: And joining us now on the phone with more details.
Speaker 17: The President of the United States, the forty fifth and
Speaker 17: forty seventh President Donald J. Trump, Mister President, thanks so
Speaker 17: much for you want to find some friends this morning.
Speaker 12: Good morning. That's quite a crew. That's quite a crew.
Speaker 17: Well, mister President, the whole world was watching yesterday as
Speaker 17: you got leaders from the European Union, NATO as well
Speaker 17: from all over the world.
Speaker 1: How did you get them.
Speaker 17: To Washington, to the Oval Office so fast.
Speaker 12: Well, I think really they have respect for our country. Again.
Speaker 12: A year ago, they wouldn't have come, they wouldn't have
Speaker 12: even thought about it. Now we've become the hottest country
Speaker 12: anywhere in the world. Everybody wants to be here. When
Speaker 12: I made the call, they came and they said, there's
Speaker 12: really never been anything like it. You know, you'd have
Speaker 12: one president or one prime minister, but there's never been,
Speaker 12: you know, such a group. And these really represent the
Speaker 12: European nations, these people, and they're very good people, and
Speaker 12: they want to end the war, that horrible war with
Speaker 12: Ukraine and Russia to horrible war.
Speaker 16: It was such a sense of unity and we all
Speaker 16: enjoyed watching it because America is on top, and it
Speaker 16: was on your turf, on your terms. I know yesterday
Speaker 16: you talked about arranging a meeting to take place in
Speaker 16: two weeks between Putin and Zelensky. Is there an update
Speaker 16: there and do you plan to attend?
Speaker 12: No, I thought I do. First, let him let them meet.
Speaker 12: You know, they haven't been exactly best friends. I haven't
Speaker 12: gotten along very well. And I call President Putin yesterday
Speaker 12: and I do have a good relationship, but it, you know,
Speaker 12: only matters if we get things done. Otherwise, I don't
Speaker 12: care about the relationship. I do have a good relationship
Speaker 12: with them, but I want to get things done. You know,
Speaker 12: I've gotten I've saw seven wars, we ended seven wars.
Speaker 12: I thought this would be one of the easier ones,
Speaker 12: and this has turned out to be the toughest one.
Speaker 12: India Pakistan. I mean these were big ones, and also
Speaker 12: all big ones, and some going for thirty one, thirty
Speaker 12: two years, one for thirty five years, the Congo and
Speaker 12: think of that, the Congo and Rwanda for thirty five years.
Speaker 12: I got that one done. I got them all done.
Speaker 12: But this one is the one that is the most difficult,
Speaker 12: and I thought it would be an easy one. So
Speaker 12: I hope President Putin is going to be good, and
Speaker 12: if he's not, it's going to be a rough situation.
Speaker 12: And I hope that Zelensky, President Zelynsky will do what
Speaker 12: he has to do. He has to show some flexibility. Also,
Speaker 12: the thing is a mess. This was started by Joe Biden.
Speaker 12: This was a war that should have never happened. Millions
Speaker 12: of people are dead, the country's blown to pieces. Ukraine
Speaker 12: and it's a it's a shame, you know, my wife
Speaker 12: wrote Blani wrote that beautiful note to President putting aback children.
Speaker 12: The children are devastated to take it away from their homes,
Speaker 12: the whole thing. And this is a war that would
Speaker 12: have never ever, ever happened if we had a president
Speaker 12: a real all right.
Speaker 1: So he's just gonna, as he typically does, throw things
Speaker 1: at the feet of Biden and say that it's his
Speaker 1: fault of this happened. And I'm not necessarily in well,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna agree with that because the issue with
Speaker 1: Russia and Ukraine goes a lot further back than Biden.
Speaker 1: I mean, how the crimea take over happened under Obama
Speaker 1: and I'm sure that we could start planning blame there,
Speaker 1: which is another one. As of this moment, Tulsea Gabbert
Speaker 1: just pulled the security clearances of thirty five thirty seven
Speaker 1: different federal agents because of a Russia Gate scandal from
Speaker 1: Obama's time in office. They are doing literally everything in
Speaker 1: their power to get people off the conversation of Epstein.
Speaker 1: We will get to that next, but before we do,
Speaker 1: what are youall thoughts on this as of this moment?
Speaker 7: Well, I got in my mind is racing. But I
Speaker 7: was really glad that that meeting happened. I think Trump
Speaker 7: wants to end the war, and Trump, unlike the Europeans,
Speaker 7: is very comfortable with asking Ukraine to give up a
Speaker 7: lot of its territory. And I think the best parallel
Speaker 7: to this is the Mexican American War, where Mexico seated
Speaker 7: an enormous amount of territory, including Texas through California. Obviously,
Speaker 7: as we should all know back in eighteen forty eight,
Speaker 7: was it, I think something like that, and the US
Speaker 7: was asking for a lot more. The US President Polk
Speaker 7: wanted all of Mexico potentially, he especially wanted Baja California.
Speaker 7: But can you imagine what if the Mexican leadership was
Speaker 7: it Santayana at the time, maybe, yeah, what if they
Speaker 7: had had Europeans whispering in their ears, no, don't give
Speaker 7: the US anything. You don't need to see any territory
Speaker 7: at all. Just wait for US to send you more
Speaker 7: money and weapons and don't give an inch. And that's
Speaker 7: kind of the situation where in with the Europeans right now,
Speaker 7: when the real you know, negotiation has to start with
Speaker 7: the idea that Mexico. You're going to lose a lot
Speaker 7: of territory. The question is just how much. Just capitulate
Speaker 7: you will be better off. You don't need to give
Speaker 7: them Baja California, but you do need to give the
Speaker 7: US a lot of territory.
Speaker 1: To that point. As a matter of fact, Mexico and
Speaker 1: I understand what's all and strictly in the realm of
Speaker 1: hypotheticals here, but Mexico at that time would have never
Speaker 1: listened to European influence. They had a real distrust of them.
Speaker 12: Uh.
Speaker 1: For anybody who doesn't know Alexander the First, which was
Speaker 1: the last Emperor of Mexico. Long story short, there was
Speaker 1: a little bit sorry Maximilian, excuse me, Maximilian, the last
Speaker 1: Emperor of Mexico. Has anybody ever been curious why the
Speaker 1: music that comes out of Mexico sounds very polka esh
Speaker 1: that they almost it's a it's like a cousin to
Speaker 1: polka music. The reason why is because they grabbed a
Speaker 1: German dude who under the tutelage of Austrian. Yeah, yeah, Austria,
Speaker 1: Hungary and Germany. I always grouped them in together. When
Speaker 1: we're talking about, like you know, that time frame, they
Speaker 1: were all cousins to each other, but so right, right,
Speaker 1: which is odd, very odd.
Speaker 7: But the Austrians.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So Maximilian the First they asked Europe
Speaker 1: to send them a emperor or a king or something
Speaker 1: like that to rule them. And Napoleon the Third, the
Speaker 1: nephew of the Napoleon that you've all heard of, the
Speaker 1: little guy, he sent his cousin essentially, or his great nephew,
Speaker 1: Maximilian the First, and he brought with him a giant
Speaker 1: army of a band, not an army that was a
Speaker 1: proper trained fighting force, a band. And that's why we
Speaker 1: have like the accordions and the horns and all these
Speaker 1: things with traditional Mexican and Tauhano music was strictly because
Speaker 1: of German and Austrian influences, because of Maximilian the First.
Speaker 1: So that's that's an interesting rabbit hole if anybody wants
Speaker 1: to dive down that one day. But to your point, Tony, yeah,
Speaker 1: that would be like Mexico asking Europe for their opinion
Speaker 1: on how much land they should secede and actually taking
Speaker 1: their advice, which is mine blowing. Actually.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Ukraine and Mexico in this situation just need to
Speaker 7: give up a lot, like Germany gave up a lot
Speaker 7: of its historical territory in nineteen forty five as well.
Speaker 7: Sometimes you just lose, and you gotta swallow the bitter
Speaker 7: pill because it's better than refusing to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't see a positive ending for this war
Speaker 1: for anybody, honestly, even if, even if Russia gets all
Speaker 1: of the land. Right now, let's say, in a hypothetical sense,
Speaker 1: Zelenski and Putin were to come to the table tonight,
Speaker 1: as of time recording, they're actually secretly meeting right now,
Speaker 1: and they agree that wherever the lines are at right
Speaker 1: now is the new lines on the map. Let's just
Speaker 1: walk away from it clean, and let's get either way
Speaker 1: it goes. Russia has lost an insane amount of manpower
Speaker 1: because of this conflict, and so has Ukraine. No One
Speaker 1: is walking out of here with clean hands or feeling
Speaker 1: good about this decision, no way you slice it. If
Speaker 1: Russia keeps the land they've taken thus far, Selenci's going
Speaker 1: to go down in history as the guy that lost
Speaker 1: a massive portion of Ukraine. If Russia secedes and goes
Speaker 1: back to the pre invasion map, Putin's going to be
Speaker 1: seen as the world's biggest bitch, which is a whole
Speaker 1: conversation in and of itself. Like you said earlier, in
Speaker 1: earlier episodes, they both overestimated their capabilities by a lot.
Speaker 1: It's nobody's walking out of this clean.
Speaker 7: Many such cases. But after the Mexican American War, I
Speaker 7: don't know a heck of a lot, But it doesn't
Speaker 7: seem like relations for that bad. There were episodic conflicts
Speaker 7: between the US and Mexico after that, and the US
Speaker 7: purchased some additional territory in southern Arizona, but there was
Speaker 7: nothing really huge again, and my hope is that the
Speaker 7: relationship between Ukraine and Russia could be that peaceful.
Speaker 1: Well, that's because Mexico had bigger fish to fry than
Speaker 1: America at that time. They were fighting the French. After
Speaker 1: the whole secession happened. They were worried about French troops
Speaker 1: in their area, which is a whole other other conversation.
Speaker 1: But yeah, they weren't happy with US, but they also
Speaker 1: had more present danger in their face. And then when
Speaker 1: that finally that conflict went by the wayside and everybody
Speaker 1: kind of settled out, they just the map was redrawn.
Speaker 1: Time to rebuild from what we have now and that's
Speaker 1: kind of where it is to this day. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that front, and that maybe that's
Speaker 1: what's needed, right, Maybe there needs to be a new
Speaker 1: boogeyman that comes out in this area to get everybody's
Speaker 1: attention off of this conflict and on to the next one,
Speaker 1: if you will. I don't think that'd be good for anybody,
Speaker 1: but it's at least a thing that has happened in
Speaker 1: the past for sure. Uh, I don't know.
Speaker 7: Well, Yeah, Germany's relationship with the Eastern Europe and the
Speaker 7: pre war, pre World War two period was hostile, mostly
Speaker 7: because there were eleven million Germans living outside of Germany
Speaker 7: and Eastern Europe, and after nineteen forty five they were
Speaker 7: all kicked out of Eastern Europe and they moved to
Speaker 7: what is now Germany. So the ethnic tension was a
Speaker 7: big deal at that time. And now that the ethnic
Speaker 7: element has removed, Eastern European relations has been a lot better.
Speaker 7: And it's very similar that there were a lot of
Speaker 7: ethnic Russians and Gonskandnetsk in these other parts of Ukraine
Speaker 7: who were very disenfranchised within Ukraine. Then they wanted to
Speaker 7: secede and join Russia. They haven't really moved around too much.
Speaker 7: The border's just been drawn in a new place where
Speaker 7: they're in Russia now, So that demographic, you know, high
Speaker 7: potential energy situation will be gone if the border's redrawn,
Speaker 7: and I think it'll stay away. That's my opinion. I
Speaker 7: think if they drew a no border right now, just
Speaker 7: like you're saying, kind of like the US did with Mexico,
Speaker 7: we would have years or decades a peace. Potentially.
Speaker 1: Some times I'm.
Speaker 7: Fearful that I'm not fearful that, oh it's you know,
Speaker 7: it's going to erupt in conflict again because they hate
Speaker 7: each other so much, because they've killed each other so much,
Speaker 7: because you know, Japan and Korea and China killed a
Speaker 7: lot of people in World War Two, and then they
Speaker 7: went to trade with each other after that. Western Europe
Speaker 7: and Eastern Europe killed a lot of people in World
Speaker 7: War two, and then it's been pretty peaceful ever since then.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the culture of Southeast Asia or just East
Speaker 1: Asia as a whole, is very different than the culture
Speaker 1: of the Ukrainian geopolitical comp there's different conversations. But to
Speaker 1: your point, they started making trade happen with each other.
Speaker 1: But I mean, Ukraine and Russia haven't stopped trade. There
Speaker 1: is still the massive fuel pipeline that runs between Ukraine
Speaker 1: and Russia, and there are still payments being made on
Speaker 1: a monthly basis regardless of what the war is doing.
Speaker 1: So to your point, trade would resume for sure.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it would. Beat. Ukraine and Russia have
Speaker 7: had mostly peacefuls all the way until maybe the past decade,
Speaker 7: and especially the last three years, there have been millions
Speaker 7: of Russians and Ukrainians intermarrying and living in each other's countries.
Speaker 7: It's kind of like how we have lots of Mexicans
Speaker 7: living in the United States. We have Mexican restaurants all
Speaker 7: over the dang place, even in you know, rural you know,
Speaker 7: North Dakota. And if you were to live in Russia
Speaker 7: and you just looked at Donald Trump's rhetoric about Mexicans
Speaker 7: in twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen, you would think US
Speaker 7: and Mexicans must really hate each other, and a few
Speaker 7: of them do, but the vast majority of US get
Speaker 7: along fine. Yeah, that's the way it could have been
Speaker 7: with Russia and Ukraine. And that's the way I think
Speaker 7: that it eventually will be with Russia and Ukraine. They
Speaker 7: don't actually really see themselves as they have to be enemies,
Speaker 7: like the Germans and the English. They're really friendly sometime,
Speaker 7: and you know, then the World Wars happened, but they
Speaker 7: still tried to be friends, you know, whenever they weren't
Speaker 7: at war.
Speaker 1: Are you still the belief Tony that at March of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, but at least by then we will
Speaker 1: see a peaceful situation in this region.
Speaker 7: I'm still betting on that. So yeah, I wonder if
Speaker 7: I should put ten dollars on it or something. That's
Speaker 7: what I said in March, and it was kind of
Speaker 7: arbitrary just twelve months, So yeah, all right, I'll send
Speaker 7: you ten dollars if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: Hey, you know what, we can have a running back
Speaker 1: going on. We can up it to twenty as a
Speaker 1: matter of fact, with oh Jackson on that. You know,
Speaker 1: we'll see. But that's the thing. I'm not even I
Speaker 1: don't even feel good about saying that there won't be
Speaker 1: a peaceful situation seen by March. I just from my perspective,
Speaker 1: and I'm not some sort of master of geopolitics by
Speaker 1: any means right. I understand there's way more nuances that
Speaker 1: I am unaware of for that conversation, but I have
Speaker 1: a hard time seeing either side coming to the negotiation
Speaker 1: table on this one because neither side can win. There
Speaker 1: is no winning as far as this conflict is concerned. Right,
Speaker 1: What does winning look like for Russia? What does winning
Speaker 1: look like for Ukraine? They both want way too much
Speaker 1: than they can actually have, So I don't think there's
Speaker 1: gonna be any side that feels good about it. And
Speaker 1: that's the thing. Even if they do come to some
Speaker 1: sort of a ceasefire agreement, I could see one false
Speaker 1: step coming out and rekickstarting all the conflict again in
Speaker 1: the snap of a finger.
Speaker 7: I think. I think victory for Russia looks like victory
Speaker 7: for the United States in eighteen forty eight. They get
Speaker 7: a lot of territory, draw a new border, and say
Speaker 7: this is the way it's gonna be. And I think
Speaker 7: that has a high potential for being a permanent, peaceful solution.
Speaker 1: Well see if it happens. Man. Honestly, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I've got such a lack of faith in governments as
Speaker 1: a whole, especially when war is on the table. I
Speaker 1: hope you're right. I just I have a hard time
Speaker 1: I'm believing it from my layman's perspective at this time.
Speaker 1: But hey, Trump is making deals happen. He's getting people
Speaker 1: to negotiation tables. We'll see, we shall see. But speaking
Speaker 1: of Trump and speaking of deals being struck, let's talk
Speaker 1: about something happening on our home soil. So Trump's DOJ
Speaker 1: is handing the Epstein documents to the House Oversight Committee
Speaker 1: on Friday as subpoena deadlight deadline rather looms. House Oversight
Speaker 1: Committee chair James Comer says the DOJ is cooperating in
Speaker 1: good faith effort to produce the files. Again, I don't
Speaker 1: have a lot of faith as far as this is concerned, either.
Speaker 1: But it is a greater than zero percent chance that
Speaker 1: a heavily, heavily heavily redacted stack of Epstein files is
Speaker 1: about to be released to the DOJ and in turn
Speaker 1: release to the public. List listen to old James Comer
Speaker 1: and see what he has to say about it.
Speaker 14: Appreciate everybody being here today. We're very excited. This will
Speaker 14: be our first deposition in our bipartisan investigation into the
Speaker 14: entire Epstein Alan saga. So We've got a lot of
Speaker 14: questions for former Attorney General bar I appreciate his willingness
Speaker 14: to come in and hopefully this will be the first
Speaker 14: of many. All that triphy question.
Speaker 1: You set a deadline for tomorrow for DJ to release
Speaker 1: the unredacted full Epstein file. Do you expect them to
Speaker 1: deliver on that.
Speaker 14: Well, we're having really good conversations. You have to understand
Speaker 14: how many you could imagine how many documents there are.
Speaker 14: I think that we're going to have the I think
Speaker 14: we'll receive the documents very soon. They're compiling everything together.
Speaker 14: I think we're working together in a good faith effort,
Speaker 14: and everything's coming along. I expect to receive the documents
Speaker 14: very very soon.
Speaker 7: Is that their explanation though, that there's just so many
Speaker 7: documents that they can't meet your door.
Speaker 14: We always get that explanation every investigation we've done in
Speaker 14: the two and a half years i've been here. But
Speaker 14: I think that I'm confident we're going to get the documents.
Speaker 3: Are there other topics you're hoping to ask them about
Speaker 3: as well, or just Epstein.
Speaker 11: And ox faults?
Speaker 14: Well, that the subpoena was just for Epstein. There are
Speaker 14: some other things that I'm curious about. So we'll see
Speaker 14: how it goes. But obviously the purpose of this deposition
Speaker 14: is on Epstein, and when we learn more, I'll be
Speaker 14: happy to come out and answer some questions. Thank you
Speaker 14: all for being here.
Speaker 1: Okay, so again, let's see if it actually comes through
Speaker 1: to fruition or if it's going to be a way
Speaker 1: too heavily redacted. List that nothing new as far as
Speaker 1: information is going to come to light, we shall see.
Speaker 1: But let's read in here. The Trump administration will begin
Speaker 1: handing over documents related to Epstein's case to the House
Speaker 1: Oversight Committee on Friday. Like we just heard Chair James
Speaker 1: Comer say, House investigators originally requested the Department of Justice
Speaker 1: to produce a tranch Trunch Trench sure of files pertaining
Speaker 1: to the late pedophile and his accomplished Ghizlaine Maxwell by
Speaker 1: twelve pm on Tuesday, August nineteenth. It's part of a
Speaker 1: wider bipartisan investigation into the handling of the Epstein's case,
Speaker 1: which has also reached several former attorneys general, FBI directors,
Speaker 1: and former first couple Bill and Hillary Clinton. Shocker that
Speaker 1: they would be involved with this. Let's not forget the
Speaker 1: painting that was over the fireplace on Epstein Island of
Speaker 1: Bill Clinton in a blue dress. That's a real painting
Speaker 1: that was there. But anyway, Comer announced Monday afternoon that
Speaker 1: he would delay the deadline until Friday in late in
Speaker 1: light of the DOJS cooperation. This is direct quote. Officially
Speaker 1: with the Department of Justice have informed us that the
Speaker 1: Department will begin to provide the Epstein related records to
Speaker 1: the Oversight Committee this week on Friday. There are many
Speaker 1: records in DOJ's custody, and it will take the Department
Speaker 1: time to produce all the records and ensure identification of
Speaker 1: victims and any child sexual abuse material are redacted. Comber
Speaker 1: said in a statement, I appreciate the Trump's administration's commitment
Speaker 1: to transparency and efforts to provide the American people with
Speaker 1: information about this matter. Comber told the reporters early Monday
Speaker 1: that his panel was having good conversations with the DOJ
Speaker 1: related to the document production, but was noncommittal when asked
Speaker 1: if the August nineteenth goal would be met. You can
Speaker 1: imagine how many documents there are, he said, We just
Speaker 1: heard him say that. As a matter of fact, Comber
Speaker 1: said the DOJ was operating in good faith. Requested materials
Speaker 1: included all documents and communications in the DOJ's possession relating
Speaker 1: to both Epstein and Maxwell, as well as files further
Speaker 1: relating to or referring to human trafficking, exploitation of minor
Speaker 1: sexual abuse, or related activities. Documents relating specifically to the
Speaker 1: DOJ's prosecutions of Epstein and Maxwell, Epstein's two thousand and
Speaker 1: seven non prosecutal agreement with federal prosecut in Florida, and
Speaker 1: any materials related to Epstein's death were requested. The House
Speaker 1: Oversight Committee asked for the documents to be largely largely unredacted,
Speaker 1: according to the subpoena obtained by Fox News Digital, except
Speaker 1: for redactions to protect the personal personnel Jesus, except for
Speaker 1: redactions to protect the personally identifiable information of victims, for
Speaker 1: any child sex abuse material as defined by the Department
Speaker 1: of Justice manual, and any other redactions required by law,
Speaker 1: which no one is upset about that. Okay, we're not
Speaker 1: trying to have these victims have their name blasted all
Speaker 1: over the place to where they feel re triggered by
Speaker 1: the horrible events that they were a part of. Like
Speaker 1: I we get that we want to know the other
Speaker 1: guilty parties, not the names of the victims. I don't
Speaker 1: think anybody that's asking for the Epstein files is asking
Speaker 1: for the names of the victims, but sure they keep
Speaker 1: going on about that. The deadline comes a day after
Speaker 1: former Attorney General Bill bar was deposed by the House
Speaker 1: Overside Committee behind closed doors. Barr was the first person
Speaker 1: scheduled to appear in the committee's probe under subpoena. The
Speaker 1: Clintons both have separate deposition dates scheduled for October. Comber
Speaker 1: was directed to send the flurry of subpoenas after a
Speaker 1: House Overside Committee subcommittee panel voted in favor of them
Speaker 1: during an unrelated hearing in July. Renewed fervor over Epstein's
Speaker 1: case in Gulf Capitol Hill after entered GOP fallout over
Speaker 1: the Trump administration's handling of the matter. Yeah, I'll bet
Speaker 1: the DOJ effectively declared the case closed after an quote
Speaker 1: unquote exhaustive review revealing Epstein had quote unquote no client list,
Speaker 1: did not blackmail prominent individuals, and confirmed he did die
Speaker 1: by suicide in a New York City jail while awaiting prosecution.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be speaking on behalf of Jacob on
Speaker 1: this one. Lies, lies and more lies. But all right,
Speaker 1: let's continue in respe response to the backlash by some
Speaker 1: on the right, Trump directed the EJ to release grand
Speaker 1: jury testimony related to Epstein, a request that's been tied
Speaker 1: up in courts since then. While Attorney General Pam Bondi
Speaker 1: had her deputy Todd Blanche interview Maxwell in person to
Speaker 1: uncover any possible new information. Comer also subpoena Maxwell, but
Speaker 1: agreed to defer her scheduled deposition until after the Supreme
Speaker 1: Court heard her appeal to overturn her conviction. I still
Speaker 1: find it odd that we are only just now actually
Speaker 1: questioning Maxwell. It's not like she refused to answer questioning.
Speaker 1: They refused to question her until like last month. That
Speaker 1: is mind blowing to me. But when you understand the
Speaker 1: realm of the political elite and how Epstein's Island and
Speaker 1: all of the other things played in with that, it
Speaker 1: also makes perfect sense. So I don't know what's gonna
Speaker 1: come of this. I'm not expecting a lot, to be
Speaker 1: completely honest with you, I hope for a lot. I
Speaker 1: hope that we get a real client list or flight
Speaker 1: logs or anything of the nature of this. But I
Speaker 1: also believe that this is going to be heavily heavily
Speaker 1: redacted to protect all of the important players. Hell, Trump's
Speaker 1: name was listed on these logs multiple times. I don't
Speaker 1: know if this was because Epstein was the money laundering
Speaker 1: guy for the political elites of the world, and maybe
Speaker 1: that's why Trump's name was listed, because he was trying
Speaker 1: to hide some dollar bills to where he didn't get
Speaker 1: taxed on it. Okay, was it flight logs on the
Speaker 1: Lolita Express. Was it times that he actually visited Epstein's
Speaker 1: island itself. The sky's a limit as far as the
Speaker 1: hypotheses are concerned. I am hoping that the list is
Speaker 1: not going to be too heavily redacted and we get
Speaker 1: some real justice. I just have a hard time actually
Speaker 1: believing it and seeing it for myself. I don't know anyway.
Speaker 1: All Right, before we wrap, I am going to go
Speaker 1: to the chat and see what everybody has shared on
Speaker 1: this evening. Let's see, Raven Lee has shared an article
Speaker 1: business Louisiana Meta AI Data Center. WHOA what is happening here? Okay?
Speaker 1: Louisiana regulators approve power plant for Giant Meta AI data Center.
Speaker 1: All right, yeah, we definitely got to talk about that one.
Speaker 1: Scrolling down a little bit here, Claire has sent another article,
Speaker 1: Roadblocks retaliates against child abuse survivor who exposed platforms predator problem.
Speaker 1: All right, yeah, we're definite gonna have to talk about
Speaker 1: that one as well. I'm just gonna pull up all
Speaker 1: the articles that y'all send as a matter of fact.
Speaker 1: Another one from Claire. This one says research suggests doctors
Speaker 1: might quickly become dependent on AI. I agree with that.
Speaker 1: We'll read into that one here in a moment. All right,
Speaker 1: let's go let us all all right, I'm go ahead
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Speaker 1: Let's start off here. Louisiana regulators approve power plant for
Speaker 1: Giant Meta AI data center. The growing risk of AI
Speaker 1: and the fact that most people don't actually see it
Speaker 1: as a risk still bothers me. But all right, let's
Speaker 1: read it in here. State regulators on Wednesday approved a
Speaker 1: controversial plan to Power Tech Giants' Meta largest official intelligence
Speaker 1: data center yet to be built in rural northeast Louisiana,
Speaker 1: clearing the wave for construction of three gas fired electricity plants.
Speaker 1: The Public Service Commission voted four to one in favor
Speaker 1: of the plan proposed by Energy at a meeting in
Speaker 1: the city of Plaqueman, following hours of public debate. The
Speaker 1: power plant is key for Meta's ten billion dollar facility
Speaker 1: to move forward. The project will be built on former
Speaker 1: agricultural land the size of around seventy football fields. Meta
Speaker 1: CEO Mark Zuckerberg has spoken to further expanding it to
Speaker 1: a size that would rival the footprint of Manhattan as
Speaker 1: the company dives headlong into the high stakes race to
Speaker 1: dominate the energy AI or emerging AI industry. Wednesday's approval
Speaker 1: was largely expected, as Louisiana officials, including Governor Jeff Landry,
Speaker 1: have welcomed the project as an economic development game changer
Speaker 1: in a long struggling region of the state, but the
Speaker 1: project in Richland Parish has also drawn sharp criticism over
Speaker 1: its huge energy needs. Speaking on behalf of somebody who
Speaker 1: lives in Louisiana and knows Plaquemen very well, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: call that area a long struggling region. They have quite
Speaker 1: a few big facilities and refineries dal Plaquemin, Shintech, Tocaya
Speaker 1: Carbon Black Placid who holds a lot of government contracts
Speaker 1: as far as jet fuel and diesel goes. So I
Speaker 1: don't think this is a long struggling area by any means.
Speaker 1: It's rural, but that's also because most of the people
Speaker 1: that live there want it to remain rural. But all right,
Speaker 1: moving on, Much of the debate has involved whether average
Speaker 1: electricity rate payers and businesses state wide will end up
Speaker 1: shouldering at least some of the costs associated with the
Speaker 1: power plant Energy has set out for the facility. Energy
Speaker 1: says there are safeguards in place and argues that the
Speaker 1: new plant will ultimately benefit everyone. In one sense, I
Speaker 1: could see that, especially if you're building a power plant.
Speaker 1: Usually these plants will sell back their excess energy to
Speaker 1: the city, which in turn will lower energy costs for
Speaker 1: the local inhabitants of said city. That's not a one
Speaker 1: hundred percent guarantee, But I've worked at many a facility
Speaker 1: that have power plants that end up selling it back
Speaker 1: to the city. So who knows Those divisions were on
Speaker 1: display at Wednesday's fast tracked vote, which occurred a couple
Speaker 1: of months before were initially planned. I'm not for this
Speaker 1: project one percent, ten percent, or one hundred percent. Commissioner
Speaker 1: Foster Campbell, who represents the district where the data center
Speaker 1: will be built. I'm for this project one thousand percent. Well,
Speaker 1: all right, as far as tripling down goes, there we go.
Speaker 1: Commissioner Devonte Lewis casts the only vote against the plan.
Speaker 1: He says the agreement left fundamental questions on the table
Speaker 1: that were too bitter to swallow. Proponents spoke at length
Speaker 1: of the higher rates of poverty in the region and
Speaker 1: the need for high paying jobs in North Louisiana. We're
Speaker 1: currently underway on the facility is already leading to exponential
Speaker 1: growth for small businesses in the area, said Rob Cleveland,
Speaker 1: head of the Economic Development Authority in Northeast Louisiana. We
Speaker 1: choose Louisiana as a home for our largest data center
Speaker 1: yet for a variety of reasons, including excellent access to infrastructure,
Speaker 1: a strong workforce, and a reliable grid, said Ashley Settle,
Speaker 1: a spokesperson for META. But over a dozen people from
Speaker 1: across the state urge regulators to deny the vote, raising
Speaker 1: concerns over raising gas prices, unclear job commitments by the
Speaker 1: tech company, water demands of the facility, and environmental risks.
Speaker 1: META has provided no assurance that these supposed jobs are
Speaker 1: going to go to Louisiana residents. That's a very good
Speaker 1: point set a Lake Charles's resident with a financial and
Speaker 1: environmental impact this big Please please push this vote so
Speaker 1: the enormous risk associated with this Meta's data center will
Speaker 1: need roughly three times the amount of electricity of the
Speaker 1: City of New Orleans uses in a year, increase Energy's
Speaker 1: electric needs in the state by around thirty percent yikes.
Speaker 1: With the Commission's approval, the utility can now begin constructing
Speaker 1: the three new plants and other transmissions infrastructures. Two of
Speaker 1: the electricity plants will be located near the data center
Speaker 1: in Richland Parish and a third in Saint Charles Parish.
Speaker 1: Both environmental advocacy groups and oil gas petrochemical companies disputed
Speaker 1: Entergy's request to build over five billion dollars in new infrastructure,
Speaker 1: arguing that the plan risks increased bills for all types
Speaker 1: of rate payers. The imposition of the risk to the
Speaker 1: rate payers, and the increase in introduce returns comes upfront,
Speaker 1: while the potential benefits of the taxpayers may materialize over
Speaker 1: the course of many years, but are based on speculative
Speaker 1: assumptions and thus far from certain at this time. The
Speaker 1: Louisiana Energy Users Group wrote in a letter Monday to
Speaker 1: the regulators LEEUG that group is composed of about of
Speaker 1: around thirty companies in the state, including Exxon Shell and Dow,
Speaker 1: which collectively spend over five point five billion in the
Speaker 1: state each year on electricity and other services. So, okay,
Speaker 1: they are approving this new power plant to be built
Speaker 1: to power meta AI data. That's I'm already not in
Speaker 1: favor of it, just because of the AI conversation. It's yeah,
Speaker 1: this will lead to some local jobs, certain like long
Speaker 1: term local jobs. You're gonna need electricians, you're gonna need
Speaker 1: texts to run the facility and do maintenance on and
Speaker 1: all of that. But a data center doesn't have thousands
Speaker 1: and thousands and thousands of employees like some sort of
Speaker 1: a manufacturing or a production line goes. So I see
Speaker 1: it as a short term money grab for sure. I
Speaker 1: don't see it as a long term good thing. But
Speaker 1: the Apparently the lawmakers and regulators are super on board
Speaker 1: with this. I guess weny embrace for impact on that one.
Speaker 1: Moving on to the next topic that was brought into
Speaker 1: the check, Roadblocks retail retaliates against child abuse survivor who
Speaker 1: exposed platforms predator problem. Okay, I don't know what is
Speaker 1: going on. Well, I mean I do because people are
Speaker 1: talking about it. But Roadblocks has been on the mind
Speaker 1: of so many of my favorite content creators this week.
Speaker 1: I have legitimately watched three different long form videos about
Speaker 1: roadblocks and how they are a being used by predators
Speaker 1: to prey upon children. B Roadblocks knows this and is
Speaker 1: doing nothing about it, and then C in certain cases,
Speaker 1: Roadblocks is promoting it for that purpose, and then D
Speaker 1: when that gets exposed. Roadblocks is actually suing these people
Speaker 1: for spinning rhetoric that is baseless, even though these people
Speaker 1: are showing receipts and can prove every single claim that
Speaker 1: is being made. So you know what. Let's read in
Speaker 1: on this. One content creator's viral videos led to six
Speaker 1: arrests before the company silenced him with legal threats. A
Speaker 1: childhood survivor of grooming on Roadblocks is now facing corporate
Speaker 1: retaliation after his viral predator catching videos led to multiple
Speaker 1: arrests and exposed systemic failures in the platform's child protection systems. Wow,
Speaker 1: all right, let's let's talk about it here, Sinar Gould,
Speaker 1: Greatco and Hinsley pllcsggh and Milberg, Coleman, Bryson, Phillips, Grossman,
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. These law firms have been retained to defend
Speaker 1: the YouTuber Michael Schlepp, a twenty two year old Texas
Speaker 1: content creator who was banned from Roadblocks and served with
Speaker 1: cease and assist letters after his investigative work resulted in
Speaker 1: six confirmed arrests of alleged child predators operating on the
Speaker 1: gaming platform. The legal action against Slap comes as his
Speaker 1: removal has sparked the viral hashtag free Schlap movement, garnering
Speaker 1: millions of views and prompting a major Roadblocks influencer to
Speaker 1: quit the company's creator program and protest crime journalist Chris
Speaker 1: Hansen maybe You've heard of him, has contacted Schlepp about
Speaker 1: participating in an upcoming documentary investigating Roadblocks's handling of child
Speaker 1: safety issues. A survivor's mission becomes legal target Schlep's anti
Speaker 1: predator work stems from his own traumatic experiences as a
Speaker 1: Roseblock user. Between the ages of twelve and fifteen, he
Speaker 1: was groomed by a prominent Roadblocks developer who had official
Speaker 1: company merchandise distributed nationwide and contracted directly with Roadblocks for
Speaker 1: platform events. The developer, since Schlept, graphic violent content, pornography,
Speaker 1: and engaged in inappropriate sexual conversations. This is a direct
Speaker 1: quote here. When my client attempted suicide and was hospitalized,
Speaker 1: his mother contacted Roadblocks seeking help. Roadblocks was unresponsive until
Speaker 1: she threatened legal action. Only then did they engage, and
Speaker 1: only to claim the abuse happened quote on another platform,
Speaker 1: despite the predator being a contracted Roadblocks developer who the
Speaker 1: company promoted at events. The developer who groomed Schlepp was
Speaker 1: eventually banned from Roadblocks, but only years later after another
Speaker 1: female developer reported sexual abuse, Roadblocks had continued paying and
Speaker 1: promoting the predator Throughout Schlep's ordeal Wow working with established
Speaker 1: predator catching organizations including Predator Poachers, which has over three
Speaker 1: hundred convictions, and EPD Watch, Schlepp's team achieved a remarkable
Speaker 1: success rate six arrests from seven real life confrontations with suspects.
Speaker 1: Suspected predators initially contacted through Roadblocks. Rather than addressing the
Speaker 1: safety vulnerabilities, Schlepp exposed, Roadblocks updated its terms of service
Speaker 1: to specifically target quote unquote vigilante groups, and then banned
Speaker 1: him from the platform. The company then escalated with legal
Speaker 1: threats under the Computer Fraud Act, the same statute used
Speaker 1: in Roadblock's shameful lawsuit against another prominent critic, Ruben sim
Speaker 1: who has also recently retained the SGGH and Milberg Law firms,
Speaker 1: is a direct quote here. Instead of thanking someone who
Speaker 1: is protecting children and working with law enforcement, Roadblocks is
Speaker 1: trying to silence them with the same legal intimidation tactics
Speaker 1: they've used before. This pattern suggests a company more concerned
Speaker 1: with suppressing criticisms and addressing the predator problem on their
Speaker 1: own platform. Geezus Okay, so they just Roadblocks just started
Speaker 1: digging and they have not put down the shovel yet.
Speaker 1: Here we go. The hashtag free Schlap campaign has exposed
Speaker 1: broader frustrations with Roadblocks child safety records, with supporters noting
Speaker 1: the irony of the company punishing someone for doing the
Speaker 1: protective work they claim to prioritize. Michael is doing exactly
Speaker 1: what Roadblocks should be doing, identifying and stopping predators who
Speaker 1: target children. This is Milburgh co counsel Gary Klinzer or
Speaker 1: Ya Klinger and Melinda Maxon. Instead of partnering with him,
Speaker 1: they are trying to destroy him, and that tells you
Speaker 1: everything about their real priorities. The case is attracted attention
Speaker 1: from major media outlets and child safety advocates, with several
Speaker 1: nation national interviews scheduled this week. The controversy has also
Speaker 1: prompted at least one major Roadblocks content career to publicly
Speaker 1: quit the company's influencer program in solidarity with Schlep. Roadblocks
Speaker 1: Corporation declined to comment. Shocker moving on here. SGGH specializes
Speaker 1: in high profile litigations against major corporations, while merril Berg
Speaker 1: is a leading class action and whistleblower protection firm with
Speaker 1: extensive experience in cases involving corporate accountability and consumer protection. Roadblocks, whistleblower, Schlep,
Speaker 1: and sim are represented by Martin D. Gould, Michael R.
Speaker 1: Greco and Steven L. Vander Porten of Stenar Gold Greco
Speaker 1: and Hensley Jesus a lot of names these very high
Speaker 1: profile legal firms. Let's just leave it at that. Let's
Speaker 1: see Stinner Gold Greco Hinsley is a boutique national personal
Speaker 1: injury firm dedicated to advocating for victims of abuse and
Speaker 1: catastrophic injuries in high stakes litigation. We pride ourselves on
Speaker 1: being innovators of law and providers of justice. Okay, so
Speaker 1: it becomes pretty much an ad for them. Recent success
Speaker 1: included participating in global settlements valued at nearly three billion dollars,
Speaker 1: with over four hundred million dollars recovered on behalf of
Speaker 1: survivors of sexual abuse and exploitation in the past eighteen months.
Speaker 1: In addition to securing record recoveries, SGG attorneys have also
Speaker 1: worked with clients who fought for and secure policy changes
Speaker 1: helping protect future generations of children and adults from abuse
Speaker 1: and exploitation. For example, as a part of a recent
Speaker 1: twenty one point three million dollar settlement in the hotel
Speaker 1: abuse case last year, one of the largest settlements in
Speaker 1: the country for an individual survivor, The firm also successfully
Speaker 1: secured policy and training changes for thousands of hotels, improving
Speaker 1: hotel pre employment screening and safety for hotel guests at
Speaker 1: employees nation and employees nationwide. Wow, so hashtag free chip
Speaker 1: or schlip excuse me. I remember hearing his story and
Speaker 1: I've seen some of his content. And for the record,
Speaker 1: it's not every single game on Roadblocks, it's not. There
Speaker 1: are some games where if there's even one, good God,
Speaker 1: if anybody knows the content creator, donut operator, he showed them.
Speaker 1: It is public bathroom simulator. That is the name of
Speaker 1: the game where a kid playing Roadblocks would click on
Speaker 1: this game. They would go into this public restroom and
Speaker 1: start having conversations with other people as a way to
Speaker 1: normalize having very off putting conversations in a public space.
Speaker 1: This would lead to them going onto other apps and
Speaker 1: other messaging platforms to try to make meetups happen. And
Speaker 1: that's just one example. There are tons of examples. And
Speaker 1: I know that Roadblocks has it to where you can't
Speaker 1: use profane language and it exes out the comments that
Speaker 1: you're trying to say that are bad words or whatever.
Speaker 1: There's ways around that. There's ways around that. You know,
Speaker 1: predators are not dumb, well they're stupid, but they're not dumb,
Speaker 1: if that makes sense. They know ways of getting around it.
Speaker 1: It's only one hack away, it's only one mod away,
Speaker 1: or it's one code word away. And kids are in
Speaker 1: the know about a lot of these things. So I,
Speaker 1: for one hope that roadblocks gets banned. I am in
Speaker 1: favor of that. I don't play it, My kids don't
Speaker 1: play it. It's no skin off our nose. If one
Speaker 1: more avenue that predators are using to hurt children get
Speaker 1: shut down, I'm in favor of this. But I guess
Speaker 1: we'll see how it plays out. I am happy that
Speaker 1: certain lawmakers are actually becoming aware of this and it
Speaker 1: is actually going by the wayside. Hopefully we shall see.
Speaker 1: Moving on to the next conversation, research suggests that doctors
Speaker 1: might quickly become dependent on AI. I actually believe this
Speaker 1: when full stop, to be honest with you. Artificial intelligence
Speaker 1: is beginning to help doctor screen patients for several routine diseases,
Speaker 1: but a new study raises concerns about whether doctors might
Speaker 1: become too reliant on AI. I think they currently already are.
Speaker 1: The study, looking at gastro entrologists in Poland, found that
Speaker 1: they appeared to be twenty percent worse at spotting polyps
Speaker 1: and other abnormalities during colonoscopies on their own after they've
Speaker 1: grown accustomed to using AI assisted systems. The finding, published
Speaker 1: in the Journal of Lancet gastro Intology and Hepatology, suggests
Speaker 1: that even after a short period of using AI, experts
Speaker 1: may become overly dependent on AI to do certain aspects
Speaker 1: of their job. We were quite quite surprised, Marsne Romance
Speaker 1: Romaniz Yeah Polish, names a PhD gastro enterrologists at HT
Speaker 1: Medical Center in Tichi, Poland, who led the study, But
Speaker 1: not everyone is convinced that the paper proves doctors are
Speaker 1: losing critical skills because of AI. I think three months
Speaker 1: seems like a very short period to lose a skill
Speaker 1: that you took twenty six years to build up, says
Speaker 1: Johan or Johann Holman, a researcher at Manchester University in
Speaker 1: England who has studied human reliance on AI. A human
Speaker 1: believes statistical variations in the patient data might be part
Speaker 1: of the explanation for why the numbers appear to drop.
Speaker 1: Factors such as average age of the patients used in
Speaker 1: different sections of the study might explain variation, he said,
Speaker 1: AI and medicine Let's talk about it here. Artificial intelligence
Speaker 1: is becoming increasingly common for a number of routine medical scans.
Speaker 1: The next time you get a scan for your eyes,
Speaker 1: breast cancer, or colon disease, there's a decent chance that
Speaker 1: AI may be analyzing the image. AI is spreading everywhere,
Speaker 1: Romantica says. At the same time, many doctors are playing
Speaker 1: catch up because learning how to use the technology wasn't
Speaker 1: a part of their training. But that's the thing with AI.
Speaker 1: It's not hard to learn how to use. You give
Speaker 1: it a command and it does it, and it learns.
Speaker 1: The more you use it, the better it gets at
Speaker 1: doing the job. So, okay, we've been taught from books
Speaker 1: and from our teachers, he says, no one told us
Speaker 1: how to use AI. Again, there's a voice spot. You
Speaker 1: could push a button and just speak what you want
Speaker 1: and it does it. But all right. A few years ago,
Speaker 1: for clinics and Poland tried out the AI system to
Speaker 1: detect polyps and other abnormalities during colonoscopies. The AI works
Speaker 1: in real time analyzing video from a camera inside the colon.
Speaker 1: If it spots something, it will highlight the area for
Speaker 1: the clinician to see. I've actually never heard the word
Speaker 1: clinician before, but okay, in this particular one, there's a
Speaker 1: green box showing where the pollup might be. He says.
Speaker 1: The clinics were collecting data on whether the AI system worked.
Speaker 1: It turned out that it did, but when Romance Get
Speaker 1: and his colleagues reanalyzed the data, they found something else.
Speaker 1: After the system was introduced, doctors became significantly worse at
Speaker 1: detecting possible pollups when the AI was switched off. According
Speaker 1: to their analysis, after doctors got AI, detection rates of
Speaker 1: possible polops fell from twenty eight point four percent to
Speaker 1: twenty two point four percent, so a six percent drop
Speaker 1: that's okay when their new AI system was switched off.
Speaker 1: In other words, the doctors seem to become quickly dependent
Speaker 1: on AI systems catching the polyps. They said, they're not
Speaker 1: sure why it's happening, but it's He has some theories.
Speaker 1: We are subconsciously waiting for the green box to come
Speaker 1: out to show us the region where the polyp is,
Speaker 1: and we're not paying attention as much anymore. There's other
Speaker 1: examples that support that idea. A similar study has shown
Speaker 1: that non experts do a worst job scanning mammograms if
Speaker 1: they know they can get an AI system to help
Speaker 1: them with the push of a button. Johan Holman, who
Speaker 1: helped lead that mammogram study, describes it as a safety
Speaker 1: net effect. He says these latest results could be interesting,
Speaker 1: but he's skeptical. The study of kolonoscopies took place over
Speaker 1: three months and the doctors participating had decades of experience.
Speaker 1: He thinks statistical variations due to a number of factors
Speaker 1: such as age of the patients, might be behind the
Speaker 1: apparent drop. Additionally, he says, we don't know how many
Speaker 1: polyps there really are, so we don't know the ground
Speaker 1: of truth. But that means it's unclear how many of
Speaker 1: the possible polyps the doctors supposedly missed were actually medically important.
Speaker 1: The studies author, Romance sure does believe that the drop
Speaker 1: is real, though he admits that studying AI in a
Speaker 1: clinical setting like this can be tricky. There are a
Speaker 1: lot of variables the researchers couldn't control. He's not against
Speaker 1: using AI. He actually thinks the little green boxes help
Speaker 1: him to do a better colonoscopies, but he thinks there
Speaker 1: should be more studies like these examining how AI might
Speaker 1: be changing the way doctors work in the real world,
Speaker 1: because look what happened, Look what's happening, He says, we
Speaker 1: have AI systems that are available, but we don't have
Speaker 1: the data. Wow. And you know, honestly, we talked about
Speaker 1: that not too terribly long ago on the Culture Conspiracy.
Speaker 1: I can envision a world right now where more and
Speaker 1: more doctors are going to be trying to use AI
Speaker 1: to better treat their patients. Because although you have this
Speaker 1: doctor that's been in this field for forty years and
Speaker 1: they've seen just about everything, AI will be able to
Speaker 1: pull from all medical journals, from all patient listings that
Speaker 1: have happened at that clinic and around the world to
Speaker 1: give you the best possible solution at that time. And yeah,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some variations because the medical practice is
Speaker 1: an unperfect science, and what works for person A might
Speaker 1: not work for person B, and what works for person
Speaker 1: AMB might not work for person C. So I get that,
Speaker 1: but I also see AI as the thing that's going
Speaker 1: to be used more and more commonly in the medical space. Again,
Speaker 1: I just have a healthy distrust for AI, I really do.
Speaker 1: I hope that it doesn't become more mainstream but boiled
Speaker 1: boy by the day. It just it is. It's becoming
Speaker 1: that way anyway, everybody. We have covered a wide bevy
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Speaker 1: we covered some international conversation. We talked about some technology.
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