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<v Speaker 1>Good evening and welcome to another edition of The Cajun

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<v Speaker 1>Night Live. I am your host the Cajun Night Jacob Mook.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna start off talking about some at home conversation

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<v Speaker 1>and controversy. Then we are going to go across the

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<v Speaker 1>Once again. Link in the description below. I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and share the screen at this time. And also

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<v Speaker 1>I should mention that the Cajun Night at Patreon is

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<v Speaker 1>the only place to get the audio or the video

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<v Speaker 1>for this. With that being said, let us talk about

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<v Speaker 1>this now Texas. For the past few weeks we had

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<v Speaker 1>brought up the fact that Texas Democrats took off from

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<v Speaker 1>the state rather than coming in to vote on the thing. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>they were afraid of the changing of the times. And yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that Trump was pushing the rezoning and redistricting

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<v Speaker 1>laws in Texas. Of course, the Democrats are not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be happy about it because it's going to give

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans more seats in DC. I understand that. That being said, people,

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<v Speaker 1>regardless of political parties, regardless of which side of which

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<v Speaker 1>aisle they claim to have, a person who was elected

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<v Speaker 1>to be in this position to cast votes on behalf

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<v Speaker 1>of their constituents and then dip out instead of vote

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<v Speaker 1>on them. I feel that as cowardice. I know that

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<v Speaker 1>there are people that will say, well, Republicans have done

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<v Speaker 1>that too, but I feel the same way about them, Like, please,

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that I am throwing more credence towards Republicans

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<v Speaker 1>or Democrats on this. Just call them side A inside

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<v Speaker 1>B for lack of better words. Here, Side A wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to get this thing passed. Side B decided that rather

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<v Speaker 1>than voting for it, which is their job, they would

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<v Speaker 1>dip out and run to other cities that are very

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<v Speaker 1>side b ESQ. Right, doesn't matter, it's it's cowardice, it's wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>These people need to lose their jobs. But that being said,

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<v Speaker 1>it appears that they have finally come back and now

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<v Speaker 1>the vote is able to be passed. Let's get an

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<v Speaker 1>update on what is going on in the Texas House

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<v Speaker 1>with the new congressional map.

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<v Speaker 2>Now a, the Texas House formally voted to advance a

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<v Speaker 2>bill that redraws the state's congressional map.

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<v Speaker 3>It would pave the way for Texans to elect more

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<v Speaker 3>Republicans to Congress. Throughout the day, there has been intense

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<v Speaker 3>pushback inside and outside the House chambers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, kV is Daniel perro is live at the Texas

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<v Speaker 2>Capitol and Daniel, you were inside the House chamber when

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<v Speaker 2>that vote happened.

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<v Speaker 4>What was it like, Well, just a couple of minutes ago,

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<v Speaker 4>you add, Republicans erupt in cheers after that vote inside

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<v Speaker 4>the chamber. Shortly before that vote, we saw really quite

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<v Speaker 4>the scene where you had all the Republicans standing at

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<v Speaker 4>the front microphone while all the Democrats were standing at

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<v Speaker 4>the bat microphone, which is just so symbolic for this

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<v Speaker 4>whole debate and brutal battle that we've seen play out

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<v Speaker 4>here inside this capital over the last several weeks. For

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<v Speaker 4>Democrats today has always been about doing everything they can

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<v Speaker 4>to help in the expected legal challenges to this map.

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<v Speaker 4>HOUSEBO four would significantly change districts in Austin, Houston, North Texas,

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<v Speaker 4>and the Rio Grande Valley. President Donald Trump wants Texas

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<v Speaker 4>to secure five more Republican seats in the US House

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<v Speaker 4>of Representatives. Political observers say this map would likely help

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<v Speaker 4>accomplish that. The author of the bill, State Representative Todd Hunter,

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<v Speaker 4>says he's confident this map is legal. Four of the

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<v Speaker 4>five districts Republicans want to flip our majority Hispanic. Hunter

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<v Speaker 4>notes the changes ad districts that are majority has Spanish

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<v Speaker 4>and Black.

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<v Speaker 5>This plan includes political considerations, public testimony, recognition of population growth,

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<v Speaker 5>and recent changes in voter trends.

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<v Speaker 4>Democrats say the votes of Texans of color will be

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<v Speaker 4>diluted in this new map. They highlight how the redistricting

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<v Speaker 4>is happening mid decade using five year old census data.

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<v Speaker 4>They argue that this is a clear violation of the

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<v Speaker 4>Voting Rights Act and the Constitution.

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<v Speaker 6>It is devastating what you are doing to poor minority communities,

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<v Speaker 6>but it's more devastating at the fact that sometimes you

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<v Speaker 6>can hate someone so much that you will do irreparative

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<v Speaker 6>damage to yourself. That is what you are opening yourselves

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<v Speaker 6>up to, is.

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<v Speaker 4>Take Several of the Democrats expressed frustration throughout the day

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<v Speaker 4>that the proposed map was the first item lawmakers debated

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<v Speaker 4>in the House during the second special session. Say lawmakers

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<v Speaker 4>should instead have prioritized bills related to last month's deadly

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<v Speaker 4>flooding across the state. Republicans say those issues are not

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<v Speaker 4>being neglected. Six bills related to disaster preparedness, relief, and

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<v Speaker 4>warning systems in the wake of that July flood is

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<v Speaker 4>They are all slated to be debated on the House

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<v Speaker 4>floor tomorrow. After the vote, the Speaker used a rare

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<v Speaker 4>procedural move which ended the day, starting a new legislative

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<v Speaker 4>day so lawmakers can take up the bill. They are

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<v Speaker 4>in the process of doing that right now, and once

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<v Speaker 4>they approve the bill for a third time, it will

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<v Speaker 4>then go over to the Senate for consideration. In the

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<v Speaker 4>upper chamber is expected to take up that bill tomorrow

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<v Speaker 4>at the Texas Capital Daniel perro kV News.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, now it appears that the Democrats came back to work,

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<v Speaker 1>and much to their dismay, the vote passed. So Texas

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<v Speaker 1>is going to get redistricted. I'm sure that's an incorrect word. Apologies.

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<v Speaker 1>The map is going to pass, right, and so it

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<v Speaker 1>appears as of this moment that there will be four

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<v Speaker 1>to five new Republican seats in DC for the state

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<v Speaker 1>of Texas. Now, I understand that Trump was pushing this

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<v Speaker 1>initiative because that's in his best interest. I understand that.

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<v Speaker 1>But all things considered, I am happy that they finally

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<v Speaker 1>came back to work. I feel like that was a

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<v Speaker 1>very bad move on their part, and I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>all the nuances associated with it. That one guy saying

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<v Speaker 1>that this was spurned on by hatred and it was

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<v Speaker 1>marginalizing these groups even more and all of that, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like, you know, I feel like that's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of very bold claims for rezoning a map based off

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<v Speaker 1>of population density. But again, I don't know. I don't know. Everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>let me know in the comments what you think about

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on in Texas, right now, do you think

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<v Speaker 1>this is a positive thing a negative thing? Is this

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<v Speaker 1>all part of the overarching political agenda? You know? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think this is a horrible thing that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>have irreputable damages done to certain communities. You let me

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<v Speaker 1>know what you think, But my statement still stands regardless

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a Republican or a Democrat, or an independent,

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<v Speaker 1>or a libertarian or a Green Party. I don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>If you were elected by your constituents to do a

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<v Speaker 1>job and you decide to run away rather than do

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<v Speaker 1>that job, I feel like you should lose your job. Tony,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I still don't know what to think of this.

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<v Speaker 7>Part of me is a Republican and I want it,

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<v Speaker 7>but there's no good way. There's no perfect way to

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<v Speaker 7>do democracy. And the way a district is drawn really

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<v Speaker 7>makes a huge impact to who gets to represent the

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<v Speaker 7>people in it. So if you can draw a district

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<v Speaker 7>to you know, clump all of your political enemies into

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<v Speaker 7>very tight geographic areas, then they get way less representation.

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<v Speaker 7>And I understand that politics really is about rewarding your

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<v Speaker 7>friends and punishing your enemies on a certain level. But

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<v Speaker 7>on the other hand, we want to live in a

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<v Speaker 7>high trust society, and part of that involves making a

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<v Speaker 7>sacrifice a little bit. And I don't know what the

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<v Speaker 7>right answer is here, but I would err on the

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<v Speaker 7>side of rewarding one's friends and punishing one's enemies just

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<v Speaker 7>by instinct, I guess, so I guess I supported I.

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<v Speaker 1>And again I don't know if this if they were

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<v Speaker 1>using bad census data right to say that, especially in

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<v Speaker 1>these super densely populated cities in the state of Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're trying to redistrict them, because there's for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>we just had something happen in Baton Rouge right in Louisiana.

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<v Speaker 1>Baton Rouge got sectioned off to where Saint George is

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<v Speaker 1>now Georgia's independent city. The city of Baton Rouge was

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<v Speaker 1>pissed about this, but the inhabitants of Saint George voted

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<v Speaker 1>upon this. They got They did the whole process. It took.

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<v Speaker 1>It started with a petition, they got it, going through

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<v Speaker 1>to the state capitol, all the things, and they finally

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<v Speaker 1>won it. The majority ruled on this. Right, the people

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<v Speaker 1>spoke and they got what they had voted for. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that is the case as far

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<v Speaker 1>as this Texas conversation is concerned did the people in

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<v Speaker 1>these new districts vote for this, did they want this

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<v Speaker 1>to happen, or is this something that they truly feel

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<v Speaker 1>is hurting their overall voice to be heard. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I'm all in favor of secession as much as possible. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>And that seems like that's what Saint George did, It's

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<v Speaker 7>what the United States did to Britain, that's what the

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<v Speaker 7>South tried to do to uh, the North, and it's

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<v Speaker 7>what Don Bess did to Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 5>UH.

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<v Speaker 7>And it's what Taiwan and Tibet kind of wanted to

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<v Speaker 7>do to China. And in general I support that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm I don't know, I'm call me a true

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<v Speaker 1>conservative or whatever our constitutionalist, however you want to label it.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe in the smallest level of government possible, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I do believe in having the most representation for your

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<v Speaker 1>vote that you can possibly have. Like I live in

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<v Speaker 1>in a neighborhood. We have a thousand houses in this subdivision.

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<v Speaker 1>I for the record, I hate that I live in

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<v Speaker 1>a subdivision with the HLA neither here nor there. If

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<v Speaker 1>this neighborhood was to have its own political entity, that

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<v Speaker 1>could be somebody to lobby for our interests in the

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<v Speaker 1>state capitol. At that level, a thousand houses get one

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<v Speaker 1>political figure to have our voice be heard. I love this.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be amazing. I know that that's way more

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<v Speaker 1>of a micro than whatever happened, but I'm in favor

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<v Speaker 1>of that. But again, I understand that to redistrict means

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<v Speaker 1>that somebody is being left out in the cold right

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what decision ever gets made, someone is getting

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<v Speaker 1>the shit in of the stick here. So I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to make it sound like I'm a cold harder

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<v Speaker 1>Republican and you know, the Democrats in Texas can just

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<v Speaker 1>get bent. I'm not trying to have that mentality. If

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<v Speaker 1>the data is correct, and if they are rezoning these

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<v Speaker 1>maps based off of accurate census bureaus, then I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really see an inherent problem with it. And it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like the Democrats were having an issue with it and decided, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if I can't play the game my way, I'm taking

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<v Speaker 1>my ball and I'm going home. So and again I

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<v Speaker 1>may be missing a couple steps here. I don't live

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<v Speaker 1>in Texas. That's just what it looks like from the

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<v Speaker 1>outside looking in. So I don't know what to make

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<v Speaker 1>of it, but I am happy that everybody returned back

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<v Speaker 1>to work, and as an auxiliary vote that was being

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<v Speaker 1>passed at this time, I am happy that the relief

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<v Speaker 1>fund that was supposed to go to the flood victims

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<v Speaker 1>is getting released to them because they needed the Republicans

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<v Speaker 1>Suck all right, Moving on to the next topic. This

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<v Speaker 1>This is from CBSU News. Excuse me, Yemen intercepts record

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<v Speaker 1>number of Iranian weapons bound for the houthis okay. US

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<v Speaker 1>Scentcom says, let's talk about it here. US Central Command

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<v Speaker 1>says that Yemeny partners successfully intercepted of Jesus these ads.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, during the way of what I'm trying to read,

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<v Speaker 1>Yemeny partner successfully intercepted a massive Iranian weapons shipment that

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<v Speaker 1>was meant to reach the nation's Hoothy rebels. The Yemeni

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<v Speaker 1>National Resistance Force Forces seized more than seven hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty tons of munitions and hardware, including hundreds of advanced cruise,

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<v Speaker 1>anti ship and anti aircraft missiles, warheads and seekers. Senkam said.

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<v Speaker 1>written in Farsi, Senkam said. Senkam said that the National

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<v Speaker 1>Resistance Forces reported many of these systems were manufactured by

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<v Speaker 1>a company affiliated with the Iranian Ministry of Defense. The

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<v Speaker 1>company is under US sanctions. The mark this marked the

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<v Speaker 1>largest seizure of Iranian advanced conventional weapons in the National

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<v Speaker 1>Resistance Forces history. This is a direct quote here, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>assuming from Senthkam. Yeah, it is actually from the commander

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<v Speaker 1>of Sencom General Michael Eric Carilla, direct quote. We commanded

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<v Speaker 1>the legitimate government forces of Yemen who continued to interdict

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<v Speaker 1>the flow of Iranian munitions bound for the Houthis. The

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<v Speaker 1>intradiction of this massive Iranian shipment shows that Iran remains

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<v Speaker 1>the most destabilizing actor in the region. Limiting the free

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<v Speaker 1>flow of Iranian support to the Houthis is critical to

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<v Speaker 1>regional security, stability and freedom of navigation. Yemen's Hoothy rebels

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<v Speaker 1>spent months launching drones and rocket attacks targeting military and

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<v Speaker 1>commercial vessels in the Red Sea and the Gulf of Eden.

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<v Speaker 1>The attacks targeted vital shipping lanes. The US conducted several

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<v Speaker 1>military strikes against the rebel groups, and May President Trump

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<v Speaker 1>said that the group had capitulated and the US would

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<v Speaker 1>not carry out further strikes. The Hoothies did not comment

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<v Speaker 1>on the alleged agreement at the time. Shocker I know

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<v Speaker 1>the Yemeni rebels attacked the Liberian flagged cargo ship in

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<v Speaker 1>two wounded, and several others were kidnapped. The Houthis also

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<v Speaker 1>July seventh. The incidents have raised concerns that the Houthis

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<v Speaker 1>may resume attacks in the area. So, while the Hoothies

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<v Speaker 1>public is that the hoo Thies were on the back foot,

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<v Speaker 1>they've capitulated they're stopping their their foolishness in this area.

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<v Speaker 1>Then the Yemeni government sees seven hundred and fifty tons,

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<v Speaker 1>was it or did I misread that? Yeah, seven hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty tons of munitions. Now I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>much each individual RPG weighs, right, I don't know, But

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<v Speaker 1>either way you want to slice it, that is a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty solid stockpile of weapons that we already know that

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<v Speaker 1>the hoo Thies would be using. So it's a good

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<v Speaker 1>thing to see that that got seized. I'm happy about this.

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<v Speaker 1>At least the shipping lanes can remain open. That being said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think the hoo Thies because they're an insurgent group, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and insurgencies are not going to stop pretty much ever ever,

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<v Speaker 1>so now they're trying to take it to the next

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<v Speaker 1>level and stop the flow of weapons going to them. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, Iran, being the higher Iran or however people

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<v Speaker 1>pronounce it, is the biggest funder of the Hoothi rebels.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't mean just money, I mean like weapons

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<v Speaker 1>being shipped from point A to point B. So overall

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<v Speaker 1>good things that this weapons shipment was seized. But how

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<v Speaker 1>do we know that this wasn't also a diversion to

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<v Speaker 1>where two and three and four other shipments made it

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<v Speaker 1>to them. We haven't really heard of anything from the

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<v Speaker 1>Hoothi rebels in this area in a little while. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that because they have finally capitulated or because they also

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<v Speaker 1>don't have the weapons to shoot? I think both they

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<v Speaker 1>are equally viable.

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<v Speaker 7>I think they still have some missiles to shoot. And

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<v Speaker 7>to my knowledge, they've still shut down the Red Sea

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<v Speaker 7>for any ships to go into Israel, So any ships

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<v Speaker 7>going from China to Israel, for example, have to go

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<v Speaker 7>all the way around Africa. That's still true.

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 7>The Many said, well, I should say. The Houthi said

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<v Speaker 7>they're not going to attack any more US ships, but

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<v Speaker 7>they reserved the right to attack any ships bound for Israel,

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<v Speaker 7>and Trump said that was good enough, and both declared victory.

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<v Speaker 7>I would characterize the Huthies as the government of Yemen

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<v Speaker 7>and the de facto government of Yemen. They they roll

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<v Speaker 7>over about eighty percent of the population. And this other

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<v Speaker 7>national army of resistance that you're mentioning, I think it's

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<v Speaker 7>way out in the eastern part of the country, which

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<v Speaker 7>is much more sparsely inhabited, but This is the result

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<v Speaker 7>twenty fifteen until I guess it's still going on. But

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<v Speaker 7>the Huthis have grown a lot in power from twenty

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<v Speaker 7>fifteen to twenty twenty or so, and they basically do

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<v Speaker 7>control the country now, and they control Hodata and Sona,

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<v Speaker 7>and they got access to the Red Sea. That's for Iran.

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<v Speaker 7>This is actually a little surprising to me because most

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<v Speaker 7>of the things I read about Iran right now say

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<v Speaker 7>that Iran's trying to build up its own missile stockpiles

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<v Speaker 7>fast as it can because they think that war, another

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<v Speaker 7>war with Israel, a bigger one, is inevitable.

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<v Speaker 1>Has been saying that since Israel was founded, though that's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing new.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I think it is new. I think Iran and

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<v Speaker 7>Israel never really attacked each other until a few months

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<v Speaker 7>ago with missiles. There were a few terrorist attacks here

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<v Speaker 7>and there, but like a huge barrage of missiles back

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<v Speaker 7>and forth, that never happened, and they both, to my

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<v Speaker 7>knowledge anyway, they both kind of ran out of missiles.

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<v Speaker 7>So they're both building up as many missiles as they can.

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<v Speaker 7>In the next wave that happens is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>That's fair. Okay, So a couple of things questions to you,

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<v Speaker 1>Tony here. Now, the weapons that were sees, they did

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<v Speaker 1>say there was a lot of drones, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>motors for drones and things like that. So maybe it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't so much missiles. I'm sure there were some. But

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<v Speaker 1>I also it wouldn't shock me to hear that Iran

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<v Speaker 1>is selling the who these uh you know, not their

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<v Speaker 1>best missiles that they have, just kind of their older

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that we notoriously the Huthis cannot hit the broadside

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<v Speaker 1>of a barn with the missiles that Iran is sending them.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not me taking an opportunity to take a

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<v Speaker 1>selling them very antiquated things just to kind of give

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<v Speaker 1>them something, and hey, if they happen to hit something

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<v Speaker 1>with it, then awesome. If not, then well it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like Iran missed it. Anyway. That being said, yeah, Iran

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<v Speaker 1>is trying to build back their own military stockpileot this time,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you one hundred percent. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>also you said that Chinese ships going to Israel. Now, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the Huthis have said that they will no longer hit

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<v Speaker 1>US ships or try to try to hit US ships,

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<v Speaker 1>which is very smart of them. Does China and Israel

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<v Speaker 1>have a open trade relationship. I know that China is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the biggest manufacturers on Earth, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really know much about the China Israel connections.

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<v Speaker 7>I was just thrown out China as a stand in

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<v Speaker 7>for anyone in Asia, basically anything from Asia. I don't

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<v Speaker 7>know how good that relationship isn't. My overall impression is

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<v Speaker 7>that the Israeli Chinese relationship is getting worse and worse

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<v Speaker 7>with time. That's my overall impression.

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<v Speaker 1>I could imagine because they're Belt and Road initiative, it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like China is giving a lot of Arab countries

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<v Speaker 1>the hookup. So it just seems like enemy of my

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<v Speaker 1>enemy and friend of my enemy kind of conversation here.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that for a fact, right, So to

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<v Speaker 1>say that China being really tight with Pakistan, for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't inherently mean that China is anti Israel. But at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, if they're hooking up Pakistan, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>imagine that they are also inherently friends to Israel as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 7>I think they used to have a better relationship. In fact,

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<v Speaker 7>Chinese espionage on US military technology used to involve Israel.

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<v Speaker 7>So America gave away some well, America gave away I

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<v Speaker 7>think two heads up displays for some fighter jets, and

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<v Speaker 7>one of them found its way to China, but both

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<v Speaker 7>of them had to go through Israel first. Israel got

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<v Speaker 7>those two heads up displays and I guess they somehow

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<v Speaker 7>somebody gave it in an unauthorized way to China. So

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<v Speaker 7>the US was unhappy about that, but the US didn't

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<v Speaker 7>make a big deal out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, of course not as the Americans can or excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>the United States government can obviously never be mad at

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<v Speaker 1>Israel about anything ever. So you know, that's just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of one of those things that we brushed on into

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<v Speaker 1>the rug, just like so many others, so many other things.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what, as we're going into that comp

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<v Speaker 1>natural segue, if you will, let's talk about what is

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<v Speaker 1>going on with Israel right now. So if you were

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<v Speaker 1>on the Live last night, you heard that we talked

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about this red heifer sacrifice in Israel.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're not gonna spend no real amount of time

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<v Speaker 1>talking about that this evening. All the reports that I

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<v Speaker 1>can find say that it was a rehearsal, and it

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<v Speaker 1>happened in early July. As a matter of fact, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know why that is just now making its way

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<v Speaker 1>to the American conversation as far as news and media

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<v Speaker 1>and things go. But all right, there are some some

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<v Speaker 1>people out there that are saying that actually it was

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<v Speaker 1>a secret, correct ritual sacrifice and all the things. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not really going to spend much time talking about that

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<v Speaker 1>this evening. Was it was it not? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not Jewish, It's not really my shtick. But that

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<v Speaker 1>being said, it's odd that that would potentially line up

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<v Speaker 1>with Israel entering the first stages of a full on

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<v Speaker 1>Gaza City assault. I got an article or excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>a video pulled up here from NBC News. Let's listen

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<v Speaker 1>to what is going on. As of time of.

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<v Speaker 8>Recording, it has firm that Israel has entered the first

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<v Speaker 8>stages of its planned assault on Gaza City, and Israeli

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<v Speaker 8>military officials says it happened after a clash with Hamas.

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<v Speaker 8>That official also says Israel's military already has a hold

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<v Speaker 8>on the outskirts of the city. It comes just hours

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<v Speaker 8>after Israel said it would call up sixty thousand reservists

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<v Speaker 8>for the Gaza City offensive. That is in addition to

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<v Speaker 8>the seventy thousand already serving. Let's get right to NBC's

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<v Speaker 8>International course bond At Danielle Hamamjin Danielle. What more do

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<v Speaker 8>we know right now about this assault and what happens next?

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't come as a big surprise, although it's coming

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<v Speaker 3>pretty quickly. I must say, Christine, as you say, sixty

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<v Speaker 3>thousand reservists called up, an additional twenty thousand will see

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<v Speaker 3>their service extended. This is a massive operation they've called

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<v Speaker 3>Gideon's Chariots two. There are eight thousand people, eight hundred

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<v Speaker 3>thousand people living in that area. For Palestinians, this will

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<v Speaker 3>mean that the thousands will be forced to go from

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<v Speaker 3>northern Gaza to southern Gaza. The IDEF says that in

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<v Speaker 3>order to minimize harm to civilians, the IDEF will warn

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<v Speaker 3>the population and allow them to evacuate from maneuver areas

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<v Speaker 3>for their protection. Now, when Palestinians hear the word evacuation, Christine,

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<v Speaker 3>this is usually codeword for displacement, and it comes with

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<v Speaker 3>a visceral fear that they'll never be able to return again.

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<v Speaker 3>This is all coming as we wait for an official

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<v Speaker 3>response by Benjamin Netanyahu on the proposal, the ceasefire proposal

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<v Speaker 3>the Hamas has agreed to. It's been now almost forty

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<v Speaker 3>eight hours, and so speaking to Palestinians in Gaza over

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<v Speaker 3>the past twenty four hours, many were hoping for a

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<v Speaker 3>truce and now and now this, and they will tell

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<v Speaker 3>you they don't believe this operation is to stop Hamas

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<v Speaker 3>from regrouping. They believe this is the beginning of the

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<v Speaker 3>full occupation of Gaza and the complete and total displacement,

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<v Speaker 3>or the attempt totally displaced, displaced the entire population of

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<v Speaker 3>the Gaza strip.

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<v Speaker 1>We thank you for watching, and remember stay all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So as peace talks were allegedly trying to take place,

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<v Speaker 1>there is also a full scale assault going on into Gaza. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know this is to the shock of

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<v Speaker 1>everyone listening, right that being said, Yeah, it's it's not

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<v Speaker 1>exactly playing out the way that everybody had hoped. Doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>look like this is going to be wrapped up anytime soon.

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<v Speaker 1>And oddly enough, some of the more liberal platforms for

444
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<v Speaker 1>lack of better words are actually starting to see the

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<v Speaker 1>insurgency for what it is. It's not a it's not

446
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<v Speaker 1>a comfortable conversation. I am not in favor of some

447
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<v Speaker 1>sort of a mass genocide going on anywhere on Earth

448
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<v Speaker 1>for any reason. I'm not in favor of that. However,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a conversation once upon a time, right when

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<v Speaker 1>America pulled out of Iraq. We founded something called the

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<v Speaker 1>Sons of Iraq. And essentially there was these Iraqis that

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<v Speaker 1>were not in favor of Al Qaeda, they were not

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<v Speaker 1>in favor of any of these terrorist organizations, they were

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<v Speaker 1>not in favor of isol later ISIS, and so American

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<v Speaker 1>forces trained up the bear with me here, the most

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<v Speaker 1>adequate Iraqis that they had, and I use the term

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<v Speaker 1>adequate very loosely, to try to fight against isol and

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<v Speaker 1>ISIS and all these other terrorist organizations, basically saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this is your country, you should fight for it. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>some weapons, here are some training, go take back your country.

461
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<v Speaker 1>We're not trying to be an imperialist power and take

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<v Speaker 1>new territory for America. You should have control over Iraq.

463
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<v Speaker 1>So they started, The Sons of Iraq did not go well.

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<v Speaker 1>I should mention but at least that was the thought process, right.

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<v Speaker 1>There was at one time a conversation to say that

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<v Speaker 1>we should have a Sons of Palestine. Right, we should

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<v Speaker 1>take the moderate Palestinians who do not want Hamas to

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<v Speaker 1>be their ruling class the same way like you said, Tony,

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<v Speaker 1>the Houthis are kind of the ruling class of Yemen

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<v Speaker 1>right now. There are people in Yemen that do not

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<v Speaker 1>like the Huthis. They acknowledge them to be a terrorist organization.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a minority, I should mention, but beside the point,

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<v Speaker 1>they do exist. So if you were to give these

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<v Speaker 1>people in Yemen some weapons, some training, and say, hey,

475
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<v Speaker 1>there's the Huthi rebels, go handle it, go get after it.

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<v Speaker 1>In theory on paper, that would play out well, except Yemen,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, has been in a civil war for

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<v Speaker 1>a little while, and all that would be doing is

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<v Speaker 1>adding gasoline to a bonfire that's already full blaze. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a good situation there. This idea was proposed

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<v Speaker 1>as far as the Sons of Palestine. You find some

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<v Speaker 1>moderate Muslim people who do not want Hamas to be

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<v Speaker 1>in charge of them, and let them go fight Hamas

484
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<v Speaker 1>for you and take back Gaza, take back the West

485
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<v Speaker 1>Bank and run it in a purely Palestinian, non harmas way. However,

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<v Speaker 1>there have been more and more videos, in real time videos,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know people are gonna say that it's all propaganda,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not one hundred percent denying that, but just

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<v Speaker 1>bear with me here. There was a video I recently

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<v Speaker 1>saw it. By recently, I mean within the last forty

491
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<v Speaker 1>eight hours of Israeli troops that were clearing a schoolhouse

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<v Speaker 1>in Gaza, okay, And you could tell that they were

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<v Speaker 1>in one room and you saw a picture of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the human organs and things like that. It was it

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<v Speaker 1>was obvious like an elementary to middle school. If I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna use like an American term to describe the schoolhouse itself.

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<v Speaker 1>It was that level of education for that level of adolescence, right.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't like a kindergarten class by any means, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was, you know, also not like a college. It

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<v Speaker 1>was somewhere I would say, possibly middle school. And you

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<v Speaker 1>could see these Israeli troops that were doing like a

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<v Speaker 1>CQB or close quarters combat to clear these rooms in

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<v Speaker 1>this schoolhouse. Okay, cool. They roll from one room, they

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<v Speaker 1>push out, go down the main hallway and literally across

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<v Speaker 1>the hallway from the classroom where we had a diagram

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<v Speaker 1>of the human anatomy and a diagram of the periodic

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<v Speaker 1>table of elements and all these things in era by

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<v Speaker 1>my dad, you had a weapons cache. And this was

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<v Speaker 1>not a weapons cash as in a few guns that

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<v Speaker 1>possibly the security liaison, which I understand is an inherently

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<v Speaker 1>American thing. But bear with me again, it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>this was a couple of guns that possibly the school

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<v Speaker 1>of security or police officer would have in his office.

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<v Speaker 9>This was crates of aks, RPGs, belt fed rpk's, and

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<v Speaker 9>then also there was wooden and plastic versions of these

516
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<v Speaker 9>weapons for the children to train with.

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<v Speaker 1>It is so systemic in the Palestinian culture to fight

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<v Speaker 1>against their quote unquote Israelia pressors that realistically, if the

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<v Speaker 1>world not America, not Israel, if the powers that be

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<v Speaker 1>were to create a Sons of Palestine organization to fight

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<v Speaker 1>against Tamas, they very well may take out Hamas. It's

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<v Speaker 1>very unlikely, but it's possible, right, It's possible they would

523
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<v Speaker 1>retake Palestine to be a free and independent place in

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<v Speaker 1>the Palestinian image, except the instant that Hamas was gone.

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<v Speaker 1>They would then turn those weapons on Israel and we

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<v Speaker 1>would have it literally would be a wash, because they

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<v Speaker 1>would then start fighting the Israeli quote unquote opressors, and

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<v Speaker 1>we would be back in this conversation like we are

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<v Speaker 1>right now. There's no way to root out an insurgency

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<v Speaker 1>than to actually pull it up by the roots. And

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds horrible, and I do not mean in a

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<v Speaker 1>genocidal way. What I'm saying is that for decades now

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<v Speaker 1>it has been a systemic thing that they're even training

534
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<v Speaker 1>their children in how to do guerrilla warfare for Israel

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<v Speaker 1>or against Israel. It's not a pretty conversation. And as

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<v Speaker 1>I started doing more digging into this rap hole, that

537
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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a one off. There's multiple schoolhouses where these children

538
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<v Speaker 1>are being taught how to use weapons and how to

539
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<v Speaker 1>hit certain very critical infrastructure in Israel. There was a

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<v Speaker 1>map in another classroom as a matter of fact, of Israel,

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<v Speaker 1>with all of it being one color, not a dual

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<v Speaker 1>state solution by any means. All of the Israeli cities

543
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<v Speaker 1>were renamed in Arabic, and it wasn't like they put

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<v Speaker 1>Tel Aviv in Arabic writing. They renamed it an entirely

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<v Speaker 1>different name, as if Palestine had taken over and killed

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<v Speaker 1>all the Jews and made it what it is. They

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<v Speaker 1>are teaching this to their children, as if this is

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<v Speaker 1>a dream that they should aspire to achieve.

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<v Speaker 7>What'd you call that dead naming?

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, is that dead naming? Is this a

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<v Speaker 1>Bruce Jenner slash Caitlyn Jenner conversation? I don't know?

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<v Speaker 7>Is dead naming? In two ways? Tell me it's the

553
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<v Speaker 7>name it was before nineteen forty seven, number one and

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<v Speaker 7>number two. It's the name it would be if all

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<v Speaker 7>the Jews laughter died, right, it's dead naming.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually dead like dead naming. Yeah, yeah, I see what

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying there. So again, I am not in favor

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<v Speaker 1>of Israel Israeli troops killing women and children. I'm never

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be okay with a war fighter on any front ever,

560
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<v Speaker 1>killing innocence to further their goals. Ever, that being said,

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<v Speaker 1>we also cannot side step the fact that even the

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<v Speaker 1>children are taught to take up arms against their oppressors.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's a very very muddy, bad situation.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, I got I got a take on this. I

565
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<v Speaker 7>think the idea would be a great idea. It presumes though,

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<v Speaker 7>that that Israel wants a peaceful Palestinian state to live

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<v Speaker 7>next to, and I think they do not that they

568
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<v Speaker 7>do not. Israel actually wants a simmering conflict. They want

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<v Speaker 7>to control the height at the flame. That yeah, who

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<v Speaker 7>has said that twice? Yeah, that's why Israel pressured the

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<v Speaker 7>Treasury Department of the United States and the government of

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<v Speaker 7>Qatar to uh so Kataris gave money to Hamas. Katar

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<v Speaker 7>didn't want to give money to Hamas. Katar said, the

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<v Speaker 7>US Treasury Department is going to sanction us if we

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<v Speaker 7>do that. So the Israelis went to the Treasury Department

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<v Speaker 7>of the United States, So please don't sanction Katar if

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<v Speaker 7>they do this. In the Treasury Department under I think

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<v Speaker 7>it was under yell and said, okay, it might have

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<v Speaker 7>been before that.

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<v Speaker 1>Weird a weird. Uh, it's all you ever seen John Wick?

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<v Speaker 7>No, I actually haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, homework for you, Tony. You must watch it,

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<v Speaker 1>not that you don't have to watch all five of

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<v Speaker 1>them or eighteen of them. I forget what john Wick

585
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<v Speaker 1>were on right now. It's kind of it's becoming people,

586
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<v Speaker 1>it's becoming fast and furious the first one was excellent,

587
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<v Speaker 1>ye second one kind of third, fourth, and all the

588
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<v Speaker 1>rest of them. It's like y'all are getting way off

589
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<v Speaker 1>in the weeds here. But beside the point, there's this

590
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<v Speaker 1>hotel called the Continental, and basically, this one spot on

591
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<v Speaker 1>Earth is seen as neutral ground. No killing can be

592
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<v Speaker 1>done here. It is a meeting place, It is a

593
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<v Speaker 1>place of business, is a place of all these things.

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<v Speaker 1>Qatar is kind of seen like that, right. It is

595
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<v Speaker 1>the place where, Oh you're from Russia, you're from America. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all can have a meeting in Qatar, but neither of

597
00:35:31.880 --> 00:35:34.239
<v Speaker 1>y'all better start drawing weapons on each other or it's

598
00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:36.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna be bad for everybody. If y'all want to have

599
00:35:36.519 --> 00:35:41.039
<v Speaker 1>a civil conversation, Qatar is the spot Israel and Palestine,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all want to come to the table. Qatar is a

601
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<v Speaker 1>good spot. They have tables there and you could play

602
00:35:46.119 --> 00:35:50.320
<v Speaker 1>ball there kind of thing. But yeah, it's a very loose,

603
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<v Speaker 1>loose translation of this time. But continue, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 7>There was a hotel called the Continental in Munich, and

605
00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:01.840
<v Speaker 7>my great great uncle Frontz died in a boiler explosion

606
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<v Speaker 7>there in nineteen thirteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, that's just a complete.

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<v Speaker 7>Coincidence, but it's one hundred percent true.

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<v Speaker 1>But is it a coincidence? Is that where Nazis met

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<v Speaker 1>with other I'm sorry, good.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, maybe they did later. I actually had two uncle Frances.

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<v Speaker 7>My next uncle, Franz was born in nineteen twenty and

613
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<v Speaker 7>named France, and then he died in Demyance in nineteen

614
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<v Speaker 7>forty two. And then my dad was named France after him.

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<v Speaker 7>And my dad's still alive today, so he lived longer

616
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<v Speaker 7>than both of them put together.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn the war killed him.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah. Yeah, he was in the lift of offa. He

619
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<v Speaker 7>was on the ground on patrol, and in nineteen forty

620
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<v Speaker 7>two he he just died. We're not one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 7>sure what happened to him, and I've been trying to

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<v Speaker 7>find out because the Russian government has great archives, but

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<v Speaker 7>I was given a URL I can't access. So maybe

624
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<v Speaker 7>somebody can help me with that. Someday, get a vpndue.

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00:36:57.719 --> 00:36:59.000
<v Speaker 1>You might be able to get it that way.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I'll try that anyway. Qatar has in Saudi Arabia.

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<v Speaker 7>Saudi Arabia have a lot of very radical Muslims who

628
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<v Speaker 7>want to, you know, send money to al Qaeda and

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<v Speaker 7>ISIS abroad, but then they got the governments that want

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<v Speaker 7>to clamp down on Muslim extremism. And I would say Israel,

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<v Speaker 7>they want to keep these Gulf states in power, like Qatar,

632
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<v Speaker 7>Saudi Arabia, and Jordan, but they want most other Arab

633
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<v Speaker 7>states to be dissolved. So that's they got their way

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<v Speaker 7>in Syria most recently, and in Yemen kind of recently.

635
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<v Speaker 7>The Hohothies control most of Yemen, but it's still a

636
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<v Speaker 7>fractured state, and it's got a history of being fractured

637
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<v Speaker 7>even in the sixties and earlier. And they especially got

638
00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:49.800
<v Speaker 7>their way in Libya. So you know, give them, give

639
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<v Speaker 7>them money and weapons to a group to overthrow its

640
00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:56.320
<v Speaker 7>government can sometimes just permanently fracture a country. And I

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<v Speaker 7>think Somalia even had that happen. I'm never sure what

642
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<v Speaker 7>exactly is going on there. It always seems fractured. But

643
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<v Speaker 7>the Israelis do want to keep the Saudi royal family

644
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<v Speaker 7>in charge as much as possible. They prefer that over

645
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<v Speaker 7>the devil. They don't know there. The Saudi royal families.

646
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<v Speaker 7>The devil they know, and they get along pretty well, right,

647
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<v Speaker 7>And I know I'm getting kind of distracted, but yeah, Jamas.

648
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<v Speaker 7>I think it'd be a great thing if there could

649
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<v Speaker 7>be a peaceful government in Palestine. But from the point

650
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<v Speaker 7>of view of many Palestinians, especially in Gaza, they've tried

651
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<v Speaker 7>peaceful protests. In twenty eighteen there was a large scale

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<v Speaker 7>one called the March of the Great Return. They all

653
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<v Speaker 7>carried signs within about three hundred feet of the fence

654
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<v Speaker 7>that divided Israel from Gaza, and three hundred feet is

655
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<v Speaker 7>about as close as you're legally allowed to go there.

656
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<v Speaker 7>And Israeli snipers would snipe a few of them, so

657
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<v Speaker 7>I don't know how many died. It's nothing compared to

658
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<v Speaker 7>the current bloodshed. It was probably a couple dozen. But

659
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<v Speaker 7>one guy in a wheelchair got hit. And they were

660
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<v Speaker 7>hitting guys in their kneecaps, you know, specifically to cripple

661
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<v Speaker 7>them instead of kill them. And Israeli true if they

662
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<v Speaker 7>would post these to telegram and say, oh hey, look

663
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<v Speaker 7>I got one. So just never got any play in

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<v Speaker 7>American media, mainstream media, but within the Arab world, they

665
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<v Speaker 7>pissed a lot of people off. And Israel does want

666
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<v Speaker 7>a certain amount of simmering conflict with Palestine all the time.

667
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<v Speaker 7>They don't want it to die down too low that

668
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<v Speaker 7>the border will just freeze. And at the same time,

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<v Speaker 7>they don't want it. They don't want it in October seventh,

670
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<v Speaker 7>every day, right, they just want enough going on that

671
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<v Speaker 7>they can keep the gears moving. And as long as

672
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<v Speaker 7>the gears keep moving, what we just watched in that

673
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<v Speaker 7>video is Israel's gonna take over the northern half of

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<v Speaker 7>the Gaza script and push everyone there into the south.

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<v Speaker 7>And then you know, phase two, question mark, phase three,

676
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<v Speaker 7>question mark. They don't know exactly what's next, but they

677
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<v Speaker 7>they know what direction to push in and they're gonna

678
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<v Speaker 7>push in that direction. Just keep on making them miserable,

679
00:40:05.599 --> 00:40:07.679
<v Speaker 7>keep pushing them more and more out of the way.

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<v Speaker 7>Gaza was never part of historic Israeli either if you

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<v Speaker 7>go back to like Wikipedia, where you know you see

682
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<v Speaker 7>who try which tribe controlled what. It was never part

683
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<v Speaker 7>of Judah. It was never part of Isakar or Manassa

684
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<v Speaker 7>or any of the northern ones Ashdat, Ashkalan, and Gaza.

685
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<v Speaker 7>They were in the far back.

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<v Speaker 1>You go and do because there's one conversation that saved

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<v Speaker 1>from the river to the sea. I've seen maps of

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<v Speaker 1>like Judea at its largest, and there are those that

689
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<v Speaker 1>say that that is clearly the land that is being

690
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<v Speaker 1>talked about here when it's like, but you're talking about

691
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<v Speaker 1>like half of Saudi Arabia in that conversation as well.

692
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<v Speaker 1>And I don't agree with that for the record, but

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<v Speaker 1>there are those that are of that standpoint. So when

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<v Speaker 1>you say that Gaza was never a part of true Judea,

695
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<v Speaker 1>like which at which point in history are we talking.

696
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<v Speaker 7>I'm talking about about seven hundred BC to Jesus, it's time,

697
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<v Speaker 7>I believe. I believe even in Jesus's time it was Philistia.

698
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<v Speaker 7>I could look it up, it would just take me

699
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<v Speaker 7>a while. I can't. Really, No, I'll get it right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I get it. I get it. I mean we

701
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<v Speaker 1>and we recently. I just had this conversation with somebody,

702
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<v Speaker 1>I think either today or yesterday as a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 1>talking about when Rome was in charge of the land

704
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<v Speaker 1>of Judea. They even called it Judea until the Jewish revolt,

705
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<v Speaker 1>right when they tore down the temple and all these

706
00:41:35.119 --> 00:41:39.159
<v Speaker 1>things in seventy a d. They renamed the Lamb Palestine.

707
00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:41.760
<v Speaker 1>It was never supposed to be called that, but the

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<v Speaker 1>Romans reclassified at that after the Jewish Uprising. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>you ever seen the movie ben Her.

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<v Speaker 7>Uh? Yeah, I saw like half of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh. First of all, if you only saw the first half,

712
00:41:54.280 --> 00:41:56.400
<v Speaker 1>then you only see that was the worst half. The

713
00:41:56.480 --> 00:41:58.639
<v Speaker 1>second half is where things pick up. But neither here

714
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<v Speaker 1>nor not the new one, Not the new one, the

715
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<v Speaker 1>original one, Charles. Yes, dude, Yes, that's legendary cinematography. Not

716
00:42:07.719 --> 00:42:10.239
<v Speaker 1>to mention the chariot race that takes place. We're talking

717
00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:13.119
<v Speaker 1>about stuntmen that were actually getting trampled by horses. There

718
00:42:13.159 --> 00:42:17.360
<v Speaker 1>was no CGI like I mind blowing, mind blowing movie magic,

719
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<v Speaker 1>neither here nor there. The Judaean like princely class, the

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00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:26.559
<v Speaker 1>Royalty of Judaea and all that. Although they were under

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00:42:26.679 --> 00:42:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Roman occupation, there was still a quid pro quo as

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<v Speaker 1>far as it goes. If you want something to happen

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<v Speaker 1>in Judea, yet, you could come in there with your

724
00:42:36.880 --> 00:42:39.199
<v Speaker 1>legions and you could force it upon the people. But

725
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<v Speaker 1>that's not going to go well. They understood that the

726
00:42:41.320 --> 00:42:44.719
<v Speaker 1>land was ruled by Jews or by the Hebrews or

727
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<v Speaker 1>Israelis or whatever they would have called it at the

728
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<v Speaker 1>day and age. Palestine as a word didn't come around

729
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<v Speaker 1>until after the revolt took place. They reclassified the land

730
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<v Speaker 1>as Palestine, and it's been ran as that ever since.

731
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<v Speaker 1>So it's I don't know where Gaza was as far

732
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<v Speaker 1>as prior to the time of Jesus or any of that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I thought it was kind of in the same

734
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<v Speaker 1>conversation as Judea. Yeah, you had Felicitia, you had the

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<v Speaker 1>Philistines or Philistines, however you want to say it, that

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<v Speaker 1>were occupying this land. But they were always enemies of

737
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<v Speaker 1>the Jews, and at one point in time they were

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<v Speaker 1>a very very small tribe. They held a very small

739
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<v Speaker 1>portion of land. I mean, I guess that could be

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<v Speaker 1>what we will call Gaza today.

741
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<v Speaker 7>Possibly well what I'm looking at some maps right now,

742
00:43:32.920 --> 00:43:35.840
<v Speaker 7>it chose the Kingdom of Judah was completely landlocked for

743
00:43:35.960 --> 00:43:40.079
<v Speaker 7>its entire history, and the coastline was called Philistine city

744
00:43:40.159 --> 00:43:43.800
<v Speaker 7>states including Ashdot and ashkal On, which are in Israel

745
00:43:43.880 --> 00:43:47.920
<v Speaker 7>now but not Gaza, which well, Gaza is going to

746
00:43:47.960 --> 00:43:53.079
<v Speaker 7>be in Israel soon, I guess. And in the Hasmonium period,

747
00:43:53.079 --> 00:43:55.840
<v Speaker 7>which is like four hundred BC to Jesus's time almost

748
00:43:55.920 --> 00:43:59.239
<v Speaker 7>or maybe one hundred BC, Yeah, it was it was

749
00:43:59.280 --> 00:44:04.400
<v Speaker 7>still Philistine, and the word philistine or Palestine goes back

750
00:44:04.440 --> 00:44:06.960
<v Speaker 7>at least as far as four sixty BC, because that's

751
00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:10.800
<v Speaker 7>when Herodotus wrote about it and that's when he lived.

752
00:44:11.000 --> 00:44:14.920
<v Speaker 7>So there's been lots of conflicting names about this area

753
00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:18.280
<v Speaker 7>going back all the way to probably a thousand BC.

754
00:44:18.840 --> 00:44:21.719
<v Speaker 7>And it's not just one area, there's many. Of course,

755
00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:27.599
<v Speaker 7>there's the twelve Tribes of Israel and like Issachar and

756
00:44:27.880 --> 00:44:31.199
<v Speaker 7>Manassa and Dan and I forget all the rest, but

757
00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:34.599
<v Speaker 7>there's you know, it's subdivided quite a.

758
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<v Speaker 1>Bit, twelve tribes, but only subdivided into ten areas because

759
00:44:39.800 --> 00:44:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Dan got kicked out and then the Levites didn't inherit Land,

760
00:44:43.119 --> 00:44:47.559
<v Speaker 1>so you had ten tribes, ten sections. I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you on that.

762
00:44:48.559 --> 00:44:51.119
<v Speaker 7>But Manassa and Dan and one of the other ones

763
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<v Speaker 7>were actually east of the Jordan River. So that makes

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<v Speaker 7>me wonder does Israel wanted that back too, because they

765
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<v Speaker 7>seem to prefer the Hashemite government Jordan and they consider

766
00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:04.400
<v Speaker 7>that the devil. They know, they don't want that to

767
00:45:04.480 --> 00:45:07.440
<v Speaker 7>be a fractured stake, but that could change. I think

768
00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:10.039
<v Speaker 7>that probably will change. I think within our lifetime, within

769
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<v Speaker 7>the next fifty years, there will probably be an Israeli

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<v Speaker 7>war with Jordan, and we won't be talking about the

771
00:45:15.320 --> 00:45:17.519
<v Speaker 7>west bank of the Jordan River anymore. We will be

772
00:45:17.559 --> 00:45:19.000
<v Speaker 7>talking about the east bank.

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<v Speaker 1>If that was to take place. So the Jordanian king

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<v Speaker 1>right now, he's not a fan of net and Yahoo.

775
00:45:25.559 --> 00:45:28.760
<v Speaker 1>He's not a fan of Israel. However, he sees them

776
00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:31.960
<v Speaker 1>as a necessary evil in the short term, you know.

777
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<v Speaker 1>And the Kingdom of Jordan, the last time that they

778
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<v Speaker 1>actually took an offensive against Israel from not mistaken, was

779
00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:41.559
<v Speaker 1>during the Sixth Day War, right when they had all

780
00:45:41.639 --> 00:45:44.440
<v Speaker 1>these nations come at them at the exact same time.

781
00:45:44.920 --> 00:45:47.960
<v Speaker 1>Egypt tried taking the southern portion. Jordan tried to jump

782
00:45:48.000 --> 00:45:50.679
<v Speaker 1>in and into the mix to expand their own territory.

783
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<v Speaker 1>But that was the last time that Jordan actually took

784
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<v Speaker 1>a offensive stance against Israel. At one point in time,

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<v Speaker 1>they took kind of a you know, everybody, I was

786
00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:02.199
<v Speaker 1>telling middle fingers at each other, but nobody was firing

787
00:46:02.280 --> 00:46:04.679
<v Speaker 1>or shot. Then they got to the point of where

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<v Speaker 1>the Jordanian king and net and Yaho are very tense.

789
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<v Speaker 1>I'm afraid to call them allies. I feel like that

790
00:46:12.719 --> 00:46:16.159
<v Speaker 1>might be a misnomer as well. But they don't hate

791
00:46:16.199 --> 00:46:18.199
<v Speaker 1>each other, but they don't love each other either.

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<v Speaker 7>Most of the Arab world, especially the anti Israel world,

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<v Speaker 7>sees Jordan as sewn up by Israel and a friend

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<v Speaker 7>of Israel. So when Iran was launching a bunch of

795
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<v Speaker 7>missiles at Israel a couple of months ago, geographics Jordan's

796
00:46:36.280 --> 00:46:38.840
<v Speaker 7>right in between, and Jordan's shot down a lot of them.

797
00:46:39.320 --> 00:46:42.960
<v Speaker 7>So you know, I'd say Jordan is still mostly on

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<v Speaker 7>Israel's side, and Israel isn't going to let that government fall.

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<v Speaker 7>That's also the reason that the Muslim Brotherhood is not

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<v Speaker 7>designated the designated a terrorist organization because there's about a

801
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<v Speaker 7>million members of the Muslim Brotherhood in Jordan.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, I'm sorry, Since when is the Muslim Brotherhood not

803
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<v Speaker 1>listed as a terror organization?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm pretty sure it's still not.

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<v Speaker 1>By who I know is in America, Darth they I.

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<v Speaker 7>Mean, I would have to look that up. I maybe

807
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<v Speaker 7>I'm remembering back to when they weren't, but I know

808
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<v Speaker 7>that it's been under consideration.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you got me messed up. I'm gonna look this up. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist organization in America? Because

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, every country lists their own, like the ira

812
00:47:26.599 --> 00:47:29.639
<v Speaker 1>is considered a terrorist organization Ireland. I don't think America

813
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<v Speaker 1>has that designation, so, like, you know, I get it,

814
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<v Speaker 1>but hold on.

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<v Speaker 7>They were formed in Egypt in nineteen twenty eight and

816
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<v Speaker 7>they're really big and uh in Jordan. Right now, this

817
00:47:42.760 --> 00:47:45.159
<v Speaker 7>is gonna we should probably pause or something.

818
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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, I'm I'm gonna look this up. Let's see,

819
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<v Speaker 1>we're we're I'm Google searching this one at this moment.

820
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<v Speaker 1>Let's see what pops up.

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<v Speaker 7>Even just Ai mode isn't considered a terrorist.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye, yeah, Ai is generating answer. Let's see. Several countries,

823
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<v Speaker 1>including Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates, bah Rain, Jordan, Austria,

824
00:48:05.760 --> 00:48:09.480
<v Speaker 1>and Russia, have officially designated the Muslim Brotherhood as a

825
00:48:09.599 --> 00:48:13.400
<v Speaker 1>terrorist organization. So Jordan has them listed as a terrorist organization.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of these designations have been relatively recent, with Austria

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<v Speaker 1>and Jordan joining the list in recent years. However, the

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<v Speaker 1>United States has not, to your point, Tony, the United

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<v Speaker 1>States has not designated the Muslim Brotherhood as a whole

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<v Speaker 1>as a foreign terrorist organization. While multiple US allies in

831
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<v Speaker 1>the Middle East and Europe have taken such action, the

832
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<v Speaker 1>US stance is more nuanced. The US has, however, designated

833
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<v Speaker 1>several affiliates of the Muslim brotherhoods such as Hamas and Hassum,

834
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<v Speaker 1>as terrorist organizations. So okay, so I was not up

835
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<v Speaker 1>to date.

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<v Speaker 7>Jordan has banned the Muslim Brotherhood earlier this year, it says,

837
00:48:49.440 --> 00:48:51.800
<v Speaker 7>So my information was out of date, But I don't

838
00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:52.760
<v Speaker 7>feel too bad.

839
00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:55.519
<v Speaker 1>As was mine. I honestly thought America had the Muslim

840
00:48:55.519 --> 00:48:59.039
<v Speaker 1>Brotherhood listen as a terrorist group. So we were both

841
00:48:59.079 --> 00:49:01.639
<v Speaker 1>equally the wrong and equally right on this one. This

842
00:49:01.719 --> 00:49:06.719
<v Speaker 1>is interesting times, but neither here nor there. So I

843
00:49:06.960 --> 00:49:09.119
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I think that Jordan, like you said, I'm

844
00:49:09.119 --> 00:49:12.679
<v Speaker 1>not saying they're a full on Israeli puppet. I don't

845
00:49:12.719 --> 00:49:15.360
<v Speaker 1>want to go that route with it. But the Jordanian

846
00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:21.239
<v Speaker 1>king absolutely sees Israel in if we're gonna, if we're

847
00:49:21.239 --> 00:49:23.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna put it on like a pH scale, it is

848
00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:28.719
<v Speaker 1>just upwards on the positive side of neutrality. He's definitely

849
00:49:29.039 --> 00:49:31.440
<v Speaker 1>he's definitely more in favor of NET and Yahoo than

850
00:49:31.480 --> 00:49:34.480
<v Speaker 1>he is against him. And I'm I feel comfortable making

851
00:49:34.519 --> 00:49:35.280
<v Speaker 1>that statement at.

852
00:49:35.199 --> 00:49:37.880
<v Speaker 7>Least, Yeah, I agree.

853
00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:41.480
<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, I don't know what's gonna shake out with

854
00:49:41.519 --> 00:49:45.159
<v Speaker 1>all this. I don't want to see innocence uh murdered

855
00:49:46.039 --> 00:49:49.960
<v Speaker 1>for Hamas to get their way or for the IDEF

856
00:49:50.079 --> 00:49:53.599
<v Speaker 1>to get their way either. I've said this before. If

857
00:49:53.960 --> 00:49:56.480
<v Speaker 1>we're looking for some sort of a good guy in

858
00:49:56.559 --> 00:50:01.320
<v Speaker 1>the conversation, none can be found own honestly, And I'm

859
00:50:01.320 --> 00:50:04.880
<v Speaker 1>not saying that every single person in Palestine is evil.

860
00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:07.360
<v Speaker 1>I am not saying that every single idea of soldier

861
00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:11.639
<v Speaker 1>is evil. Just don't don't misinterpret my words here. The

862
00:50:11.679 --> 00:50:14.360
<v Speaker 1>people that are actually calling the shots on this one,

863
00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:18.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe that there's anyone there actually acting on

864
00:50:18.880 --> 00:50:23.119
<v Speaker 1>the side of morality and justice anymore. To be honest,

865
00:50:23.239 --> 00:50:26.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I am personally just Jacob speaking on behalf

866
00:50:26.519 --> 00:50:30.599
<v Speaker 1>of Jacob. I don't think this entire situation in Israel

867
00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:33.679
<v Speaker 1>and gods and all that was ever a morality thing.

868
00:50:33.719 --> 00:50:36.320
<v Speaker 1>And I understand, Oh do you do you remember what

869
00:50:36.400 --> 00:50:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Hamas did when they came in and they took the

870
00:50:38.880 --> 00:50:42.880
<v Speaker 1>hostages and all that. I'm person of the belief that

871
00:50:43.039 --> 00:50:45.000
<v Speaker 1>was a part of a plan. Maybe this is just

872
00:50:45.039 --> 00:50:48.000
<v Speaker 1>my conspiratorial brain coming out, but I find it very

873
00:50:48.039 --> 00:50:53.679
<v Speaker 1>odd that Biden randomly found six billion dollars to give

874
00:50:53.760 --> 00:50:57.679
<v Speaker 1>to Iran for some prisoners quote unquote, even though the

875
00:50:57.719 --> 00:51:00.760
<v Speaker 1>whole stipulations to that deal was very, very weird, and

876
00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:03.400
<v Speaker 1>nobody actually could make sense of why we gave six

877
00:51:03.559 --> 00:51:08.199
<v Speaker 1>billion to Iran. Next thing, you know, Iran being a

878
00:51:08.360 --> 00:51:12.000
<v Speaker 1>super you know, supporter, let's let's leave it, a supporter

879
00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:16.760
<v Speaker 1>of Hamas. Next thing, you know, Hamas has all of

880
00:51:16.800 --> 00:51:19.519
<v Speaker 1>these weapons, all of this man power, all of that

881
00:51:19.880 --> 00:51:25.199
<v Speaker 1>is around the Israeli border, and Moussad I don't even

882
00:51:25.199 --> 00:51:27.599
<v Speaker 1>think it's an argument to be said, Mussad being the

883
00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:32.760
<v Speaker 1>greatest intelligence organization on earth as of this moment, especially

884
00:51:33.400 --> 00:51:38.360
<v Speaker 1>over there quote unquote open air prison of Gaza. If

885
00:51:38.400 --> 00:51:42.920
<v Speaker 1>we believe that they missed, they they just didn't see

886
00:51:43.000 --> 00:51:45.639
<v Speaker 1>the amassing of troops and the amassing of weapons, and

887
00:51:45.679 --> 00:51:49.199
<v Speaker 1>the paragliders and all these they missed one hundred percent.

888
00:51:49.320 --> 00:51:51.440
<v Speaker 1>They just had no clue and got caught with their

889
00:51:51.480 --> 00:51:56.559
<v Speaker 1>pants down, because that's something that Moosad does. Ever. But

890
00:51:56.639 --> 00:52:01.000
<v Speaker 1>all right, I am person of the belief that at

891
00:52:01.280 --> 00:52:04.360
<v Speaker 1>the powers that be, I mean, you want to drop

892
00:52:04.440 --> 00:52:07.920
<v Speaker 1>names and say that in Yahoo or Biden or whatever,

893
00:52:08.920 --> 00:52:11.199
<v Speaker 1>maybe yes, maybe no, But I believe that the true

894
00:52:11.239 --> 00:52:13.920
<v Speaker 1>powers that be knew that it was going to take place,

895
00:52:14.159 --> 00:52:16.559
<v Speaker 1>allowed it to take place so it could kickstart the

896
00:52:16.719 --> 00:52:20.679
<v Speaker 1>entire conflict as we see unfolding before our eyes. So

897
00:52:21.360 --> 00:52:23.599
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe that there are any good guys to

898
00:52:23.639 --> 00:52:28.679
<v Speaker 1>be found anywhere in this conversation. Just me.

899
00:52:29.800 --> 00:52:32.760
<v Speaker 7>Yeah. I feel like it's like Pearl Harbor and FTR

900
00:52:32.800 --> 00:52:37.519
<v Speaker 7>wanted Pearl Harbor to happen, yep, and Israeli Zionis wanted

901
00:52:37.519 --> 00:52:41.079
<v Speaker 7>the October seventh attack or something like it to happen.

902
00:52:41.559 --> 00:52:43.800
<v Speaker 7>Maybe not exactly on that scale. Maybe they would have

903
00:52:43.800 --> 00:52:46.719
<v Speaker 7>preferred it to be a little less, but they needed

904
00:52:46.760 --> 00:52:48.559
<v Speaker 7>something like that to exploit.

905
00:52:48.920 --> 00:52:51.679
<v Speaker 1>I think it's the USS independence. I think it is

906
00:52:51.719 --> 00:52:54.079
<v Speaker 1>Pearl Harbor. I think it is the Gulf of Tonkin.

907
00:52:54.519 --> 00:52:57.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that there wasn't a shit that exploded.

908
00:52:57.679 --> 00:53:00.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that lives weren't lost. I'm not saying

909
00:53:00.760 --> 00:53:02.400
<v Speaker 1>that it was a complete false flag and it was

910
00:53:02.400 --> 00:53:06.880
<v Speaker 1>a complete op. What I'm saying is the attack was

911
00:53:06.920 --> 00:53:10.280
<v Speaker 1>allowed to happen.

912
00:53:10.519 --> 00:53:13.559
<v Speaker 7>Presumed that these border guards they should have been training

913
00:53:13.599 --> 00:53:15.639
<v Speaker 7>for what happens if you have a breach? What do

914
00:53:15.719 --> 00:53:18.559
<v Speaker 7>you do? That should just be part of training, you know,

915
00:53:18.800 --> 00:53:22.000
<v Speaker 7>drills every week or so. I assume that our troops

916
00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:24.639
<v Speaker 7>and our border patrol do stuff like that, yes, and

917
00:53:24.679 --> 00:53:28.679
<v Speaker 7>I guess the Israeli border patrol never did anything like

918
00:53:28.760 --> 00:53:30.719
<v Speaker 7>that at all. That's my problem.

919
00:53:31.440 --> 00:53:33.760
<v Speaker 1>They do get trained in that. I know for a

920
00:53:33.960 --> 00:53:37.800
<v Speaker 1>fact that they get trained in that, So that's my point.

921
00:53:37.880 --> 00:53:43.400
<v Speaker 1>So they just got caught slipping by their alleged open

922
00:53:43.440 --> 00:53:47.760
<v Speaker 1>air prison population. The prison guards just happened to be

923
00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:51.320
<v Speaker 1>missing that day and the prisoners were able to take

924
00:53:51.360 --> 00:53:54.559
<v Speaker 1>over the prison and launch an invasion. I have a

925
00:53:54.639 --> 00:53:59.760
<v Speaker 1>hard time believing the comedy of errors that occurred to

926
00:53:59.800 --> 00:54:05.199
<v Speaker 1>where that could happen personally. So yeah, as far as

927
00:54:05.199 --> 00:54:08.840
<v Speaker 1>this conversation goes, I hope that this hit whole Gaza

928
00:54:08.920 --> 00:54:15.239
<v Speaker 1>Israel thing gets resolved sooner rather than later. That being said,

929
00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:21.159
<v Speaker 1>as Israel is launching Phase one of their Gaza offensive,

930
00:54:21.639 --> 00:54:24.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's gonna get wrapped up anytime soon.

931
00:54:24.679 --> 00:54:29.000
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, we will keep everybody posted on this as

932
00:54:29.119 --> 00:54:32.960
<v Speaker 1>it plays out into the future. Now back to the

933
00:54:33.000 --> 00:54:37.880
<v Speaker 1>conversations at hand again, This is from about a week ago,

934
00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:39.480
<v Speaker 1>and I meant to bring it up last week, but

935
00:54:39.519 --> 00:54:41.159
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was actually kind of funny and it

936
00:54:41.320 --> 00:54:46.119
<v Speaker 1>is a weird segue into the Russia Ukraine conversation. So

937
00:54:46.119 --> 00:54:51.519
<v Speaker 1>Sony closes all operations in Russia after eighteen years, ending PlayStation,

938
00:54:51.760 --> 00:54:55.239
<v Speaker 1>music and film presence. Now, I'm not saying that this

939
00:54:55.320 --> 00:54:58.880
<v Speaker 1>is gonna cripple Putin and cripple Russia. Don't misinterpret my

940
00:54:58.960 --> 00:55:01.159
<v Speaker 1>words here, But I'm just saying it's funny that Sony,

941
00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:04.239
<v Speaker 1>of all things, a gaming company and a music company,

942
00:55:04.239 --> 00:55:06.280
<v Speaker 1>and yes they have their hand in movies as well,

943
00:55:06.679 --> 00:55:08.920
<v Speaker 1>decide that they are going to be pulling out of

944
00:55:09.079 --> 00:55:11.719
<v Speaker 1>all Russian business. Let's read it in here. This is

945
00:55:11.719 --> 00:55:15.440
<v Speaker 1>from United twenty four Media. Sony has formally ended its

946
00:55:15.480 --> 00:55:20.199
<v Speaker 1>presence in Russia, dissolving its local subsidiary, Sony Mobile Communications

947
00:55:20.280 --> 00:55:24.119
<v Speaker 1>Roots on August eleventh. According to the United States Register

948
00:55:24.280 --> 00:55:28.880
<v Speaker 1>of Legal Entities, the Japanese technology company had operated in

949
00:55:28.920 --> 00:55:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Russia since two thousand and six, marking and eighteen year presents.

950
00:55:33.159 --> 00:55:38.199
<v Speaker 1>Liquidation documents were submitted to the facts A Federal tax

951
00:55:38.239 --> 00:55:42.960
<v Speaker 1>service in October twenty twenty four, following an earlier unsuccessful

952
00:55:43.000 --> 00:55:45.360
<v Speaker 1>attempt to close the business in twenty twenty three, and

953
00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:48.639
<v Speaker 1>its final year is a subsidiary primarily sold remaining stock

954
00:55:48.760 --> 00:55:54.440
<v Speaker 1>and provided device servicing. Sony announced its devices I'm Sorry

955
00:55:54.480 --> 00:55:57.440
<v Speaker 1>its decision to exit Russia shortly after the full scale

956
00:55:57.480 --> 00:56:00.840
<v Speaker 1>invasion of Ukraine in February twenty twenty to joining other

957
00:56:00.880 --> 00:56:04.920
<v Speaker 1>companies in supporting international sanctions. In March twenty twenty two,

958
00:56:05.000 --> 00:56:09.519
<v Speaker 1>the corporation halted console shipments, suspended PlayStation store operations, and

959
00:56:09.599 --> 00:56:13.159
<v Speaker 1>donated two million dollars to assist Ukrainians affected by the

960
00:56:13.159 --> 00:56:16.840
<v Speaker 1>war through the UN and Save the Children. Sony Pictures

961
00:56:16.960 --> 00:56:20.519
<v Speaker 1>Entertainment also stopped releasing films in Russia, while Sony Music

962
00:56:20.599 --> 00:56:24.199
<v Speaker 1>ceased operations in September twenty twenty two, removing foreign catalogs

963
00:56:24.239 --> 00:56:28.119
<v Speaker 1>from local streaming services and spinning off its Russian division

964
00:56:28.199 --> 00:56:31.559
<v Speaker 1>into an independent label. In twenty twenty four, the company

965
00:56:31.599 --> 00:56:34.840
<v Speaker 1>began closing its branded stores in Russia, completing the process

966
00:56:34.880 --> 00:56:38.519
<v Speaker 1>by summer due to the lack of product supply. Financial

967
00:56:38.559 --> 00:56:41.400
<v Speaker 1>results reflect the decline a net loss of one point

968
00:56:41.480 --> 00:56:44.719
<v Speaker 1>four to three billion ruples, which is about fifteen point

969
00:56:44.880 --> 00:56:48.320
<v Speaker 1>nine We could round that up to sixteen million dollars

970
00:56:48.360 --> 00:56:51.719
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty two and give or take five point

971
00:56:51.840 --> 00:56:54.920
<v Speaker 1>nine million in twenty twenty three, followed by a modest

972
00:56:54.960 --> 00:56:58.119
<v Speaker 1>profit of one point two million in twenty twenty four.

973
00:56:58.639 --> 00:57:00.760
<v Speaker 1>These are USD by the way, I say the million

974
00:57:01.039 --> 00:57:05.639
<v Speaker 1>generated solely from warranty and administrative services. Revenue dropped by

975
00:57:05.639 --> 00:57:09.880
<v Speaker 1>approximately seventy six percent over the period earlier. A March

976
00:57:09.960 --> 00:57:13.880
<v Speaker 1>twenty fifth report by Russian consulting firm KEPT found that

977
00:57:14.599 --> 00:57:18.320
<v Speaker 1>about sixty two percent of Western companies with significant assets

978
00:57:18.320 --> 00:57:20.440
<v Speaker 1>in Russia had exited since the start of the full

979
00:57:20.440 --> 00:57:25.400
<v Speaker 1>scale invasion of Ukraine, with most transferring assets to domestic

980
00:57:25.440 --> 00:57:29.800
<v Speaker 1>buyers or local management. So again, it's not I'm not

981
00:57:29.840 --> 00:57:31.599
<v Speaker 1>saying that Sony is going to be the thing that

982
00:57:31.719 --> 00:57:34.800
<v Speaker 1>ends the war by any means, but it's yet another company,

983
00:57:34.840 --> 00:57:37.559
<v Speaker 1>and it's a Japanese company at that, that have pulled

984
00:57:37.599 --> 00:57:42.320
<v Speaker 1>out full stop from Russia because of the situation there. Now,

985
00:57:42.840 --> 00:57:47.679
<v Speaker 1>Trump is confident that the Russia and Ukrainian leaders will meet,

986
00:57:48.239 --> 00:57:52.039
<v Speaker 1>despite Russian doubts. For anybody that missed it, Putin and

987
00:57:52.079 --> 00:58:00.519
<v Speaker 1>Trump had a very good meeting in Alaska, Yeah, saying

988
00:58:00.519 --> 00:58:03.480
<v Speaker 1>that they came to an agreement, but it seemed that

989
00:58:03.599 --> 00:58:08.360
<v Speaker 1>both parties left that meeting feeling very good about the meeting. Ukraine, obviously,

990
00:58:08.480 --> 00:58:11.760
<v Speaker 1>Zelenski is very pissed that that meeting took place without him,

991
00:58:12.119 --> 00:58:13.840
<v Speaker 1>But we got to get to it right. We got

992
00:58:13.840 --> 00:58:16.559
<v Speaker 1>to start the process some way, shape or form. Trump

993
00:58:16.599 --> 00:58:19.000
<v Speaker 1>had already met with Zelensky and finally got him to

994
00:58:19.239 --> 00:58:22.320
<v Speaker 1>the conversation right and said that, hey, we will launch

995
00:58:22.320 --> 00:58:26.039
<v Speaker 1>our mining operations on the eastern side of Ukraine. If

996
00:58:26.119 --> 00:58:28.840
<v Speaker 1>you agree to this, we will bring Russia to the

997
00:58:28.840 --> 00:58:32.199
<v Speaker 1>table to have these conversations. Zelensky was pissed, but he

998
00:58:32.239 --> 00:58:34.599
<v Speaker 1>finally agreed and said, fine, we will give you the

999
00:58:34.639 --> 00:58:37.079
<v Speaker 1>mineral rights as long as you can end this war.

1000
00:58:37.599 --> 00:58:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Russia said, no, no way in hell, we have no

1001
00:58:40.119 --> 00:58:43.280
<v Speaker 1>interest in any this warring time soon. Now. Trump and

1002
00:58:43.320 --> 00:58:46.559
<v Speaker 1>Putin just met in Alaska. They both left feeling very

1003
00:58:46.559 --> 00:58:49.239
<v Speaker 1>good about it. Let's listen in on some of the

1004
00:58:50.079 --> 00:58:53.760
<v Speaker 1>possible conversations that took place there. This is from a

1005
00:58:53.760 --> 00:58:58.280
<v Speaker 1>local four from Detroit. Let's listen in. Where and when?

1006
00:58:58.559 --> 00:59:01.599
<v Speaker 10>Those are the two big questions surrounding President Trump's wish

1007
00:59:01.639 --> 00:59:04.000
<v Speaker 10>to have the leaders of Russia and Ukraine meet face

1008
00:59:04.039 --> 00:59:06.880
<v Speaker 10>to face to finally end this war. But today the

1009
00:59:06.960 --> 00:59:10.199
<v Speaker 10>Russians are publicly sounding less committed to a meeting with

1010
00:59:10.400 --> 00:59:14.280
<v Speaker 10>Ukrainians than President Trump. Had expressed, as Monica Alba shows US.

1011
00:59:14.320 --> 00:59:17.599
<v Speaker 10>This comes as attacks in eastern Ukraine continue.

1012
00:59:17.119 --> 00:59:17.760
<v Speaker 1>To ramp up.

1013
00:59:19.719 --> 00:59:23.320
<v Speaker 11>President Trump continuing to express confidence that the leaders of

1014
00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:26.400
<v Speaker 11>Russia and Ukraine could soon meet face to face to

1015
00:59:26.480 --> 00:59:28.960
<v Speaker 11>negotiate an end to their three and a half years

1016
00:59:29.000 --> 00:59:29.599
<v Speaker 11>long war.

1017
00:59:30.079 --> 00:59:32.400
<v Speaker 12>We're going to try and stop it, and I think

1018
00:59:32.400 --> 00:59:33.400
<v Speaker 12>we have a good shot.

1019
00:59:33.679 --> 00:59:38.480
<v Speaker 11>But today the Russians are throwing cold water on that mind,

1020
00:59:38.519 --> 00:59:41.840
<v Speaker 11>the Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov saying that talks between

1021
00:59:41.840 --> 00:59:45.719
<v Speaker 11>lower level Russian and Ukrainian officials must take place before

1022
00:59:45.840 --> 00:59:49.360
<v Speaker 11>sit down between the country's presidents is set. Lavrov adding

1023
00:59:49.360 --> 00:59:52.719
<v Speaker 11>that discussions about security guarantees for Ukraine now taking place

1024
00:59:52.760 --> 00:59:56.280
<v Speaker 11>among US and European leaders, but not the Russians, are

1025
00:59:56.320 --> 00:59:59.960
<v Speaker 11>a quote road to nowhere. Despite that, more than third

1026
01:00:00.039 --> 01:00:03.400
<v Speaker 11>NATO military leaders held a video conference today to talk

1027
01:00:03.440 --> 01:00:07.079
<v Speaker 11>about what security guarantees for Ukraine which would satisfy both

1028
01:00:07.159 --> 01:00:12.119
<v Speaker 11>Ukraine and Russia might look like. It comes after another

1029
01:00:12.159 --> 01:00:15.880
<v Speaker 11>intense night of Russian bombing in eastern Ukraine. Officials there

1030
01:00:15.920 --> 01:00:18.920
<v Speaker 11>say sixty drone strikes injured more than a dozen people.

1031
01:00:19.280 --> 01:00:23.000
<v Speaker 7>The Russians have no interest and they've demonstrated no interest

1032
01:00:23.119 --> 01:00:24.119
<v Speaker 7>in stopping this war.

1033
01:00:24.400 --> 01:00:27.440
<v Speaker 11>Former Ambassador to Ukraine Bill Taylor says Russia has no

1034
01:00:27.519 --> 01:00:29.639
<v Speaker 11>incentive to negotiate with Ukraine.

1035
01:00:29.760 --> 01:00:30.920
<v Speaker 7>He said, They're going to drag it out.

1036
01:00:30.920 --> 01:00:33.920
<v Speaker 5>They want to continue to pound the Ukrainians until they

1037
01:00:34.000 --> 01:00:36.679
<v Speaker 5>get what they want, and that's why standing up to

1038
01:00:36.760 --> 01:00:38.079
<v Speaker 5>them is the only way to do it.

1039
01:00:38.480 --> 01:00:41.559
<v Speaker 11>Some lawmakers now urging the president to get tougher on

1040
01:00:41.719 --> 01:00:42.559
<v Speaker 11>President Putin.

1041
01:00:42.840 --> 01:00:45.199
<v Speaker 7>I think the only way to do that if he

1042
01:00:45.320 --> 01:00:48.440
<v Speaker 7>does not move forward quickly with this summit or with

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<v Speaker 7>a ceasefire, is with very strong sanctions.

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<v Speaker 11>The White House has not said where a meeting between

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<v Speaker 11>Vladimir Putin and Voladimir Zelenski could take place or when,

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<v Speaker 11>but an administration official said Budapest, Hungary, and Geneva Switzer

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<v Speaker 11>are two possible locations that are being discussed. Monica Alba,

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<v Speaker 11>NBC News, Washington.

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<v Speaker 10>President Trump insists that US troops will not be deployed

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<v Speaker 10>to help protect Ukraine after the war is over, but

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<v Speaker 10>the President says the US could provide air support to

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<v Speaker 10>the Ukrainians.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll have much.

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<v Speaker 10>More from Washington, d C on nightly News tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, all right, So that was from NBC. I should add,

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<v Speaker 1>so the meetings seem to have gone well, and again

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<v Speaker 1>they're not saying anything that we haven't said before. A

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<v Speaker 1>quick expedient into this conflict is in the best interest

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<v Speaker 1>of everybody. Yeah, duh. That was the entire point. This

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<v Speaker 1>special military operation was only supposed to last two weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>We are at three and a half years of it

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<v Speaker 1>as of this moment. I believe we're gonna see the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth year old around. But again, it seems like Putin

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<v Speaker 1>might be more willing as of this particular moment in

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<v Speaker 1>time to come to the negotiation table. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if that's a true statement or not. I only have hopes. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about Trump's security guarantees quote unquote for Ukraine

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<v Speaker 1>and it does this actually line up with what we

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<v Speaker 1>just heard. Let's listen in This is from WMAZ thirteen.

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<v Speaker 12>Yes, and European allies pushing ahead with plans for how

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<v Speaker 12>to protect Ukraine if the war with Russia comes to

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<v Speaker 12>an end.

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<v Speaker 8>A potential summit with the leaders of both of those

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<v Speaker 8>warring nations continues to be negotiated.

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<v Speaker 1>Netlie Brand has more details for the Whitehouse.

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<v Speaker 13>Ukraine says a drone strike overnight injured fourteen people, including

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<v Speaker 13>young children. President Vladimir Zelinsky says a separate attack damaged

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<v Speaker 13>five apartment buildings, and he called for strong security guarantees

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<v Speaker 13>to ensure a truly, reliable and lasting peace. US Secretary

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<v Speaker 13>of State Marco Rubio is discussing what form that could

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<v Speaker 13>take with European allies, as NATO defense chiefs hold a

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<v Speaker 13>virtual meeting today to continue working out details. Russia is

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<v Speaker 13>sounding off against any NATO troops on the ground in Ukraine,

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<v Speaker 13>with the Foreign Minister saying discussing security issues without Russia

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<v Speaker 13>is a quote road to nowhere. The Kremlin is also

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<v Speaker 13>not confirming that Russian President Vladimir Putin will participate in

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<v Speaker 13>direct talks with Ukrainian President Zelenski, but the White House

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<v Speaker 13>as Putin promise President Trump he would take part.

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<v Speaker 14>I can't tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>There are many options that are being discussed by our

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<v Speaker 1>national security team right now with both parties.

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<v Speaker 13>Source tells CBS News Budapest, Hungary, is one city under

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<v Speaker 13>consideration for the Putin Zelensky talks. The White House hopes

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<v Speaker 13>to have a date and location set by later this week.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, maybe I'm just speaking on behalf of

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<v Speaker 1>myself here. But even if you were to get Zelenski

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<v Speaker 1>and Putin into a room together, I have a hard

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<v Speaker 1>time believing that they would have a productive conversation to

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<v Speaker 1>actually bring about the end of the war. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like both of them are very eageric dudes, And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying that to shit on one side or the other.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's just kind of the nature of the

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<v Speaker 1>beast on this one. Zelenski wants Crimea to be back

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<v Speaker 1>into the realm of the Ukrainian people, and Putin wants

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<v Speaker 1>to at least keep the lands that have already been

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<v Speaker 1>taken up until this point, I don't see them coming

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<v Speaker 1>to any kind of real agreement on this. However. Trump

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<v Speaker 1>whispers a crazy Putin deal theory to Emmanuel Macron in

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<v Speaker 1>a hot mike moment. This just happened, as a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of fact, let's talk about it. Trump's comments came during

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<v Speaker 1>a Monday meeting with European leaders as he looks to

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<v Speaker 1>secure a peace deal between Russian and Ukraine. Uh, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a video. We're gonna play that in just a second,

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<v Speaker 1>but let's just read about it first. President Trump was

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<v Speaker 1>heard in a hot mic moment whispering to French President

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<v Speaker 1>Emmanuel Macrone. Yes, the same Macrone that is married to

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<v Speaker 1>a dude that people call brigit. But conversation for another day.

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<v Speaker 1>And Kennice owens that he believes Russian President Vladimir Putin

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<v Speaker 1>wants to make a peace deal for the US. Leader

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<v Speaker 1>Trump is really of the belief that he is so

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<v Speaker 1>smooth at talking that he's got Putin eating out of

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<v Speaker 1>the palm in his hand, and he really wants to

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<v Speaker 1>make it happen, remarking the hunch even sounded crazy to him,

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<v Speaker 1>direct quote, I think he which is Putin, wants to

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<v Speaker 1>make a deal. I think he wants to make a

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<v Speaker 1>deal for me. You understand that Trump was heard telling

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<v Speaker 1>Macrone ahead of a multilateral meeting with European leaders Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>as crazy as it sounds. Top European leaders converged on

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<v Speaker 1>the White House Monday when Trump haild his highly anticipated

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<v Speaker 1>meeting with Ukrainian President Zelensky in the hopes of brokering

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<v Speaker 1>a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine, a middle ward

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<v Speaker 1>that has raged since the winter of twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump spoke with the European leaders following his meeting with Zelensky,

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<v Speaker 1>which included discussions on quote unquote security guarantees for Ukraine,

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<v Speaker 1>which guarantees would be provided by the various European countries

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<v Speaker 1>with a coordination with the United States of America. Trump

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<v Speaker 1>said on Truth's Social Monday of the meeting, so let's

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<v Speaker 1>see five key moments now, I'm not worry about that.

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<v Speaker 1>European leaders who joined the meeting at the White House

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<v Speaker 1>Monday included Macrone, Finished President Alexander Stubb, Italian Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 1>Georgia or yeah, I think Georgia Maloney, UK Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 1>Keir Starmer, German Chancellor Frederick Murrs, and European Commissioner President

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<v Speaker 1>Ursula von der Leyton and NATO Secretary General Mark Root.

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<v Speaker 1>Macrone joined NBC News following the White House meeting and

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<v Speaker 1>was asked point blank about Trump's comments to him. There

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<v Speaker 1>is a direct quote here. What went through your head

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<v Speaker 1>when he said that to you, NBC's Christian Welker asked

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<v Speaker 1>Macrone after the transcript of Trump's exchange with mcrone earlier

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<v Speaker 1>that day. McCrone celebrated the exchange as evidence of Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>conviction the war between Ukraine and Russia will end. Direct

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<v Speaker 1>quote at the end of the day, if we have

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<v Speaker 1>a deal which is compliant with the long standing and

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<v Speaker 1>robust piece, this is great news, what Crohne said during

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<v Speaker 1>the Monday interview, continuing the quote, and your president indeed

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<v Speaker 1>is very confident about the capacity he has to get

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<v Speaker 1>the deal done, which is good news for all of us,

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<v Speaker 1>and can break this. I would say this daily killings.

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<v Speaker 1>When asked about the hot mic exchange, a White House

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<v Speaker 1>spokesperson told Fox News Digital that Trump is the only

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<v Speaker 1>world leader who has gotten Putin to join the negotiation

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<v Speaker 1>table for a potential peace deal as war rage for

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<v Speaker 1>more than three years, quoting here, as President Trump has

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<v Speaker 1>said he has a good relationship with President Putin and

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<v Speaker 1>only he was able to bring President Putin to the

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<v Speaker 1>table for a peace deal. The spokesperson said, European leaders

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<v Speaker 1>recognize that after three years of killing and deadlock under

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<v Speaker 1>weak Joe Biden, there has been more progress towards peace

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<v Speaker 1>than ever before because of the President's leadership. Trump joined

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<v Speaker 1>Fox and Friends Tuesday morning and said he intends to

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<v Speaker 1>let Putin and Zelensky meet one on one before moving

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<v Speaker 1>forward with peace negotiations, which could include a landswap deal.

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<v Speaker 1>They haven't exactly been the best of friends, Trump said Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they're getting along a little bit better than I thought.

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<v Speaker 1>Otherwise I wouldn't have set up the two of them

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<v Speaker 1>a meeting. I would have set up a trilateral meeting.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump added that the negotiations would not include omitting or

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<v Speaker 1>admitting Ukraine into NATO, but said some European nations have

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<v Speaker 1>agreed to provide NATO like protections, including security guarantees. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how accurate that is, but we shall see.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump met with Putin in Alaska Friday, which did not

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<v Speaker 1>yield a peace deal, but open the door for more

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<v Speaker 1>in depth peats talks. Following Trump's campaign trail pledged to

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<v Speaker 1>indie bloody war that began under his predecessor's tenure. Trump

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<v Speaker 1>called Putin following his White House meeting Monday and set

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<v Speaker 1>the table for a meeting between Putin and Zelensky. He

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<v Speaker 1>said on a truth social post this week. At the

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<v Speaker 1>conclusion of the meeting, I called President Putin and began

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<v Speaker 1>the arrangements for a meeting at a location to be

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<v Speaker 1>determined between President Putin and President Zelenski. That was Trump's post,

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<v Speaker 1>Continuing it says after that meeting takes place, we will

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<v Speaker 1>have a tri trial it which would be the two

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<v Speaker 1>presidents plus myself. Again, this was a very good early

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<v Speaker 1>step for a war that has been going on for

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<v Speaker 1>almost four years. Vice President JD. Van, Secretary of State

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<v Speaker 1>Marco Rubio, and Special Envoy Steve Whitkoff are coordinating with

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<v Speaker 1>Russia and Ukraine. Thank you for your attention on this matter.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I want to see and hear this hot mic

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<v Speaker 1>moment and let's see what actually was said in the

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<v Speaker 1>tone thereof.

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<v Speaker 15>A little tangent. Good, great, thank you for pod event

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<v Speaker 15>which I.

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<v Speaker 7>Set.

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<v Speaker 1>Lady.

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<v Speaker 15>I think he wants to make a deal for me.

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<v Speaker 12>Understand that, as crazy as it sounds, you sit down,

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<v Speaker 12>Sit down, everybody.

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<v Speaker 15>I think we'll let we'll let please.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that didn't sound too convincing to me.

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<v Speaker 12>He's a tall guy, good looking, incredible.

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<v Speaker 15>Isn't it just it's such an incredible place. Well, we're

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<v Speaker 15>building a big ballroom, beautiful right here.

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<v Speaker 14>If you go, it would be right through that, right

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<v Speaker 14>through here.

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<v Speaker 15>It's gonna be, I'll tell you, but it's going to be.

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<v Speaker 15>It's going to be fantastic. Actually, you can let.

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<v Speaker 1>Them come in, all right. So again that didn't sound

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<v Speaker 1>too convincing to me personally. I think he wants to

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<v Speaker 1>make a deal with me, believe it or not. As

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<v Speaker 1>crazy as it sounds, I think he wants to make

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<v Speaker 1>a deal with me. You understand that it sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>he's just kind of talking shit to try to flex

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<v Speaker 1>on the cron I could be wrong here. Let's see.

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<v Speaker 1>This is another clip. This is from Fox News. As

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of fact, let's see what they have to

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<v Speaker 1>say on it.

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<v Speaker 16>President Trump making major progress toward peace and high stakes

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<v Speaker 16>talks with Ukrainian President Zelenski and European leaders in the

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<v Speaker 16>Oval Office yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at that picture.

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<v Speaker 6>President Trump also confirming a meeting between Russian President Putin and.

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<v Speaker 3>Zelenski is in the works before he hopefully meets them together.

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<v Speaker 17>And joining us now on the phone with more details.

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<v Speaker 17>The President of the United States, the forty fifth and

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<v Speaker 17>forty seventh President Donald J. Trump, Mister President, thanks so

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<v Speaker 17>much for you want to find some friends this morning.

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<v Speaker 12>Good morning. That's quite a crew. That's quite a crew.

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<v Speaker 17>Well, mister President, the whole world was watching yesterday as

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<v Speaker 17>you got leaders from the European Union, NATO as well

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<v Speaker 17>from all over the world.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you get them.

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<v Speaker 17>To Washington, to the Oval Office so fast.

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<v Speaker 12>Well, I think really they have respect for our country. Again.

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<v Speaker 12>A year ago, they wouldn't have come, they wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 12>even thought about it. Now we've become the hottest country

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<v Speaker 12>anywhere in the world. Everybody wants to be here. When

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<v Speaker 12>I made the call, they came and they said, there's

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<v Speaker 12>really never been anything like it. You know, you'd have

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<v Speaker 12>one president or one prime minister, but there's never been,

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<v Speaker 12>you know, such a group. And these really represent the

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<v Speaker 12>European nations, these people, and they're very good people, and

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<v Speaker 12>they want to end the war, that horrible war with

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01:12:49.800 --> 01:12:51.560
<v Speaker 12>Ukraine and Russia to horrible war.

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<v Speaker 16>It was such a sense of unity and we all

1254
01:12:56.279 --> 01:12:59.560
<v Speaker 16>enjoyed watching it because America is on top, and it

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01:12:59.600 --> 01:13:03.079
<v Speaker 16>was on your turf, on your terms. I know yesterday

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01:13:03.119 --> 01:13:05.359
<v Speaker 16>you talked about arranging a meeting to take place in

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01:13:05.399 --> 01:13:08.439
<v Speaker 16>two weeks between Putin and Zelensky. Is there an update

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01:13:08.479 --> 01:13:09.960
<v Speaker 16>there and do you plan to attend?

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<v Speaker 12>No, I thought I do. First, let him let them meet.

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01:13:14.159 --> 01:13:16.800
<v Speaker 12>You know, they haven't been exactly best friends. I haven't

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01:13:17.159 --> 01:13:20.720
<v Speaker 12>gotten along very well. And I call President Putin yesterday

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01:13:20.720 --> 01:13:23.039
<v Speaker 12>and I do have a good relationship, but it, you know,

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01:13:23.119 --> 01:13:25.800
<v Speaker 12>only matters if we get things done. Otherwise, I don't

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01:13:25.840 --> 01:13:28.439
<v Speaker 12>care about the relationship. I do have a good relationship

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01:13:28.479 --> 01:13:30.479
<v Speaker 12>with them, but I want to get things done. You know,

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01:13:30.520 --> 01:13:33.720
<v Speaker 12>I've gotten I've saw seven wars, we ended seven wars.

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01:13:33.760 --> 01:13:35.439
<v Speaker 12>I thought this would be one of the easier ones,

1268
01:13:35.479 --> 01:13:38.039
<v Speaker 12>and this has turned out to be the toughest one.

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01:13:38.199 --> 01:13:42.520
<v Speaker 12>India Pakistan. I mean these were big ones, and also

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01:13:43.359 --> 01:13:46.119
<v Speaker 12>all big ones, and some going for thirty one, thirty

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01:13:46.119 --> 01:13:48.720
<v Speaker 12>two years, one for thirty five years, the Congo and

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01:13:48.760 --> 01:13:51.439
<v Speaker 12>think of that, the Congo and Rwanda for thirty five years.

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01:13:51.520 --> 01:13:54.199
<v Speaker 12>I got that one done. I got them all done.

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01:13:54.279 --> 01:13:57.000
<v Speaker 12>But this one is the one that is the most difficult,

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01:13:57.079 --> 01:13:58.680
<v Speaker 12>and I thought it would be an easy one. So

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01:13:59.199 --> 01:14:02.079
<v Speaker 12>I hope President Putin is going to be good, and

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01:14:02.119 --> 01:14:04.560
<v Speaker 12>if he's not, it's going to be a rough situation.

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01:14:04.760 --> 01:14:10.520
<v Speaker 12>And I hope that Zelensky, President Zelynsky will do what

1279
01:14:10.560 --> 01:14:13.479
<v Speaker 12>he has to do. He has to show some flexibility. Also,

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01:14:13.680 --> 01:14:16.880
<v Speaker 12>the thing is a mess. This was started by Joe Biden.

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01:14:17.479 --> 01:14:19.760
<v Speaker 12>This was a war that should have never happened. Millions

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01:14:19.800 --> 01:14:23.439
<v Speaker 12>of people are dead, the country's blown to pieces. Ukraine

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01:14:23.479 --> 01:14:26.159
<v Speaker 12>and it's a it's a shame, you know, my wife

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01:14:26.159 --> 01:14:30.439
<v Speaker 12>wrote Blani wrote that beautiful note to President putting aback children.

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<v Speaker 12>The children are devastated to take it away from their homes,

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01:14:34.159 --> 01:14:36.399
<v Speaker 12>the whole thing. And this is a war that would

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01:14:36.399 --> 01:14:39.479
<v Speaker 12>have never ever, ever happened if we had a president

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01:14:39.560 --> 01:14:41.159
<v Speaker 12>a real all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's just gonna, as he typically does, throw things

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01:14:44.560 --> 01:14:46.680
<v Speaker 1>at the feet of Biden and say that it's his

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01:14:46.760 --> 01:14:50.079
<v Speaker 1>fault of this happened. And I'm not necessarily in well,

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01:14:50.079 --> 01:14:53.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna agree with that because the issue with

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01:14:54.039 --> 01:14:57.720
<v Speaker 1>Russia and Ukraine goes a lot further back than Biden.

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01:14:57.760 --> 01:15:01.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean, how the crimea take over happened under Obama

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01:15:01.760 --> 01:15:04.199
<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure that we could start planning blame there,

1296
01:15:04.760 --> 01:15:09.359
<v Speaker 1>which is another one. As of this moment, Tulsea Gabbert

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01:15:09.640 --> 01:15:14.920
<v Speaker 1>just pulled the security clearances of thirty five thirty seven

1298
01:15:15.039 --> 01:15:19.039
<v Speaker 1>different federal agents because of a Russia Gate scandal from

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01:15:19.159 --> 01:15:22.800
<v Speaker 1>Obama's time in office. They are doing literally everything in

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01:15:22.840 --> 01:15:25.840
<v Speaker 1>their power to get people off the conversation of Epstein.

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<v Speaker 1>We will get to that next, but before we do,

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01:15:29.760 --> 01:15:31.920
<v Speaker 1>what are youall thoughts on this as of this moment?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I got in my mind is racing. But I

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01:15:37.279 --> 01:15:39.840
<v Speaker 7>was really glad that that meeting happened. I think Trump

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01:15:39.960 --> 01:15:43.119
<v Speaker 7>wants to end the war, and Trump, unlike the Europeans,

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01:15:43.159 --> 01:15:46.760
<v Speaker 7>is very comfortable with asking Ukraine to give up a

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01:15:46.800 --> 01:15:49.920
<v Speaker 7>lot of its territory. And I think the best parallel

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01:15:49.960 --> 01:15:56.000
<v Speaker 7>to this is the Mexican American War, where Mexico seated

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01:15:56.039 --> 01:16:00.119
<v Speaker 7>an enormous amount of territory, including Texas through California. Obviously,

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01:16:00.159 --> 01:16:02.960
<v Speaker 7>as we should all know back in eighteen forty eight,

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01:16:03.600 --> 01:16:07.000
<v Speaker 7>was it, I think something like that, and the US

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01:16:07.159 --> 01:16:10.520
<v Speaker 7>was asking for a lot more. The US President Polk

1313
01:16:10.800 --> 01:16:15.760
<v Speaker 7>wanted all of Mexico potentially, he especially wanted Baja California.

1314
01:16:17.039 --> 01:16:21.479
<v Speaker 7>But can you imagine what if the Mexican leadership was

1315
01:16:21.520 --> 01:16:24.399
<v Speaker 7>it Santayana at the time, maybe, yeah, what if they

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01:16:24.399 --> 01:16:27.760
<v Speaker 7>had had Europeans whispering in their ears, no, don't give

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01:16:27.800 --> 01:16:30.479
<v Speaker 7>the US anything. You don't need to see any territory

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01:16:30.520 --> 01:16:33.399
<v Speaker 7>at all. Just wait for US to send you more

1319
01:16:33.439 --> 01:16:36.720
<v Speaker 7>money and weapons and don't give an inch. And that's

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01:16:36.880 --> 01:16:39.680
<v Speaker 7>kind of the situation where in with the Europeans right now,

1321
01:16:39.840 --> 01:16:43.960
<v Speaker 7>when the real you know, negotiation has to start with

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01:16:44.079 --> 01:16:46.039
<v Speaker 7>the idea that Mexico. You're going to lose a lot

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01:16:46.039 --> 01:16:49.600
<v Speaker 7>of territory. The question is just how much. Just capitulate

1324
01:16:49.800 --> 01:16:52.279
<v Speaker 7>you will be better off. You don't need to give

1325
01:16:52.319 --> 01:16:54.600
<v Speaker 7>them Baja California, but you do need to give the

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01:16:54.680 --> 01:16:57.119
<v Speaker 7>US a lot of territory.

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<v Speaker 1>To that point. As a matter of fact, Mexico and

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01:16:59.239 --> 01:17:01.039
<v Speaker 1>I understand what's all and strictly in the realm of

1329
01:17:01.119 --> 01:17:04.479
<v Speaker 1>hypotheticals here, but Mexico at that time would have never

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01:17:04.560 --> 01:17:08.159
<v Speaker 1>listened to European influence. They had a real distrust of them.

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01:17:08.720 --> 01:17:08.880
<v Speaker 12>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>For anybody who doesn't know Alexander the First, which was

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01:17:12.960 --> 01:17:17.319
<v Speaker 1>the last Emperor of Mexico. Long story short, there was

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01:17:17.319 --> 01:17:21.239
<v Speaker 1>a little bit sorry Maximilian, excuse me, Maximilian, the last

1335
01:17:21.239 --> 01:17:28.279
<v Speaker 1>Emperor of Mexico. Has anybody ever been curious why the

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01:17:28.439 --> 01:17:33.319
<v Speaker 1>music that comes out of Mexico sounds very polka esh

1337
01:17:33.680 --> 01:17:36.640
<v Speaker 1>that they almost it's a it's like a cousin to

1338
01:17:36.760 --> 01:17:40.000
<v Speaker 1>polka music. The reason why is because they grabbed a

1339
01:17:40.159 --> 01:17:46.840
<v Speaker 1>German dude who under the tutelage of Austrian. Yeah, yeah, Austria,

1340
01:17:46.920 --> 01:17:49.319
<v Speaker 1>Hungary and Germany. I always grouped them in together. When

1341
01:17:49.319 --> 01:17:51.720
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about, like you know, that time frame, they

1342
01:17:51.720 --> 01:17:56.159
<v Speaker 1>were all cousins to each other, but so right, right,

1343
01:17:56.199 --> 01:17:58.239
<v Speaker 1>which is odd, very odd.

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01:17:58.279 --> 01:18:00.319
<v Speaker 7>But the Austrians.

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01:18:00.039 --> 01:18:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, So Maximilian the First they asked Europe

1346
01:18:04.560 --> 01:18:07.920
<v Speaker 1>to send them a emperor or a king or something

1347
01:18:08.000 --> 01:18:11.079
<v Speaker 1>like that to rule them. And Napoleon the Third, the

1348
01:18:11.199 --> 01:18:13.800
<v Speaker 1>nephew of the Napoleon that you've all heard of, the

1349
01:18:13.840 --> 01:18:19.119
<v Speaker 1>little guy, he sent his cousin essentially, or his great nephew,

1350
01:18:19.479 --> 01:18:23.319
<v Speaker 1>Maximilian the First, and he brought with him a giant

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01:18:23.520 --> 01:18:26.560
<v Speaker 1>army of a band, not an army that was a

1352
01:18:26.560 --> 01:18:30.439
<v Speaker 1>proper trained fighting force, a band. And that's why we

1353
01:18:30.560 --> 01:18:34.199
<v Speaker 1>have like the accordions and the horns and all these

1354
01:18:34.239 --> 01:18:39.319
<v Speaker 1>things with traditional Mexican and Tauhano music was strictly because

1355
01:18:39.359 --> 01:18:43.960
<v Speaker 1>of German and Austrian influences, because of Maximilian the First.

1356
01:18:44.479 --> 01:18:46.720
<v Speaker 1>So that's that's an interesting rabbit hole if anybody wants

1357
01:18:46.720 --> 01:18:49.640
<v Speaker 1>to dive down that one day. But to your point, Tony, yeah,

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01:18:49.680 --> 01:18:54.479
<v Speaker 1>that would be like Mexico asking Europe for their opinion

1359
01:18:54.600 --> 01:18:58.199
<v Speaker 1>on how much land they should secede and actually taking

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01:18:58.239 --> 01:19:00.880
<v Speaker 1>their advice, which is mine blowing. Actually.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, Ukraine and Mexico in this situation just need to

1362
01:19:06.439 --> 01:19:08.479
<v Speaker 7>give up a lot, like Germany gave up a lot

1363
01:19:08.520 --> 01:19:11.359
<v Speaker 7>of its historical territory in nineteen forty five as well.

1364
01:19:11.640 --> 01:19:14.119
<v Speaker 7>Sometimes you just lose, and you gotta swallow the bitter

1365
01:19:14.199 --> 01:19:18.039
<v Speaker 7>pill because it's better than refusing to.

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01:19:19.600 --> 01:19:24.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't see a positive ending for this war

1367
01:19:25.560 --> 01:19:29.279
<v Speaker 1>for anybody, honestly, even if, even if Russia gets all

1368
01:19:29.319 --> 01:19:32.520
<v Speaker 1>of the land. Right now, let's say, in a hypothetical sense,

1369
01:19:32.680 --> 01:19:35.359
<v Speaker 1>Zelenski and Putin were to come to the table tonight,

1370
01:19:35.920 --> 01:19:39.079
<v Speaker 1>as of time recording, they're actually secretly meeting right now,

1371
01:19:39.479 --> 01:19:41.840
<v Speaker 1>and they agree that wherever the lines are at right

1372
01:19:41.880 --> 01:19:44.239
<v Speaker 1>now is the new lines on the map. Let's just

1373
01:19:44.319 --> 01:19:47.399
<v Speaker 1>walk away from it clean, and let's get either way

1374
01:19:47.399 --> 01:19:52.319
<v Speaker 1>it goes. Russia has lost an insane amount of manpower

1375
01:19:52.640 --> 01:19:56.159
<v Speaker 1>because of this conflict, and so has Ukraine. No One

1376
01:19:56.239 --> 01:19:59.520
<v Speaker 1>is walking out of here with clean hands or feeling

1377
01:19:59.560 --> 01:20:03.960
<v Speaker 1>good about this decision, no way you slice it. If

1378
01:20:04.159 --> 01:20:07.159
<v Speaker 1>Russia keeps the land they've taken thus far, Selenci's going

1379
01:20:07.239 --> 01:20:09.439
<v Speaker 1>to go down in history as the guy that lost

1380
01:20:09.560 --> 01:20:13.920
<v Speaker 1>a massive portion of Ukraine. If Russia secedes and goes

1381
01:20:13.960 --> 01:20:17.239
<v Speaker 1>back to the pre invasion map, Putin's going to be

1382
01:20:17.279 --> 01:20:21.399
<v Speaker 1>seen as the world's biggest bitch, which is a whole

1383
01:20:21.479 --> 01:20:24.960
<v Speaker 1>conversation in and of itself. Like you said earlier, in

1384
01:20:25.119 --> 01:20:29.720
<v Speaker 1>earlier episodes, they both overestimated their capabilities by a lot.

1385
01:20:30.880 --> 01:20:32.880
<v Speaker 1>It's nobody's walking out of this clean.

1386
01:20:33.840 --> 01:20:39.199
<v Speaker 7>Many such cases. But after the Mexican American War, I

1387
01:20:39.239 --> 01:20:41.560
<v Speaker 7>don't know a heck of a lot, But it doesn't

1388
01:20:41.600 --> 01:20:46.560
<v Speaker 7>seem like relations for that bad. There were episodic conflicts

1389
01:20:46.560 --> 01:20:48.960
<v Speaker 7>between the US and Mexico after that, and the US

1390
01:20:49.039 --> 01:20:53.199
<v Speaker 7>purchased some additional territory in southern Arizona, but there was

1391
01:20:53.239 --> 01:20:57.359
<v Speaker 7>nothing really huge again, and my hope is that the

1392
01:20:57.399 --> 01:21:01.000
<v Speaker 7>relationship between Ukraine and Russia could be that peaceful.

1393
01:21:01.520 --> 01:21:04.079
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's because Mexico had bigger fish to fry than

1394
01:21:04.119 --> 01:21:07.119
<v Speaker 1>America at that time. They were fighting the French. After

1395
01:21:07.239 --> 01:21:09.840
<v Speaker 1>the whole secession happened. They were worried about French troops

1396
01:21:09.840 --> 01:21:12.840
<v Speaker 1>in their area, which is a whole other other conversation.

1397
01:21:13.479 --> 01:21:16.920
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, they weren't happy with US, but they also

1398
01:21:17.000 --> 01:21:21.560
<v Speaker 1>had more present danger in their face. And then when

1399
01:21:21.600 --> 01:21:24.640
<v Speaker 1>that finally that conflict went by the wayside and everybody

1400
01:21:24.720 --> 01:21:27.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of settled out, they just the map was redrawn.

1401
01:21:28.359 --> 01:21:30.840
<v Speaker 1>Time to rebuild from what we have now and that's

1402
01:21:30.960 --> 01:21:33.720
<v Speaker 1>kind of where it is to this day. So yeah,

1403
01:21:33.720 --> 01:21:36.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm with you on that front, and that maybe that's

1404
01:21:36.039 --> 01:21:38.920
<v Speaker 1>what's needed, right, Maybe there needs to be a new

1405
01:21:38.960 --> 01:21:41.359
<v Speaker 1>boogeyman that comes out in this area to get everybody's

1406
01:21:41.359 --> 01:21:44.399
<v Speaker 1>attention off of this conflict and on to the next one,

1407
01:21:44.439 --> 01:21:47.319
<v Speaker 1>if you will. I don't think that'd be good for anybody,

1408
01:21:47.359 --> 01:21:50.039
<v Speaker 1>but it's at least a thing that has happened in

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01:21:50.079 --> 01:21:53.479
<v Speaker 1>the past for sure. Uh, I don't know.

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01:21:53.600 --> 01:21:58.119
<v Speaker 7>Well, Yeah, Germany's relationship with the Eastern Europe and the

1411
01:21:58.159 --> 01:22:02.159
<v Speaker 7>pre war, pre World War two period was hostile, mostly

1412
01:22:02.199 --> 01:22:05.000
<v Speaker 7>because there were eleven million Germans living outside of Germany

1413
01:22:05.039 --> 01:22:07.439
<v Speaker 7>and Eastern Europe, and after nineteen forty five they were

1414
01:22:07.479 --> 01:22:09.640
<v Speaker 7>all kicked out of Eastern Europe and they moved to

1415
01:22:10.159 --> 01:22:14.319
<v Speaker 7>what is now Germany. So the ethnic tension was a

1416
01:22:14.319 --> 01:22:16.319
<v Speaker 7>big deal at that time. And now that the ethnic

1417
01:22:16.359 --> 01:22:21.479
<v Speaker 7>element has removed, Eastern European relations has been a lot better.

1418
01:22:21.880 --> 01:22:23.720
<v Speaker 7>And it's very similar that there were a lot of

1419
01:22:23.800 --> 01:22:28.079
<v Speaker 7>ethnic Russians and Gonskandnetsk in these other parts of Ukraine

1420
01:22:28.560 --> 01:22:31.399
<v Speaker 7>who were very disenfranchised within Ukraine. Then they wanted to

1421
01:22:31.399 --> 01:22:34.640
<v Speaker 7>secede and join Russia. They haven't really moved around too much.

1422
01:22:34.680 --> 01:22:37.279
<v Speaker 7>The border's just been drawn in a new place where

1423
01:22:37.319 --> 01:22:41.520
<v Speaker 7>they're in Russia now, So that demographic, you know, high

1424
01:22:41.560 --> 01:22:46.680
<v Speaker 7>potential energy situation will be gone if the border's redrawn,

1425
01:22:47.039 --> 01:22:49.960
<v Speaker 7>and I think it'll stay away. That's my opinion. I

1426
01:22:50.039 --> 01:22:52.640
<v Speaker 7>think if they drew a no border right now, just

1427
01:22:52.680 --> 01:22:55.039
<v Speaker 7>like you're saying, kind of like the US did with Mexico,

1428
01:22:55.720 --> 01:22:59.479
<v Speaker 7>we would have years or decades a peace. Potentially.

1429
01:23:00.159 --> 01:23:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Some times I'm.

1430
01:23:00.920 --> 01:23:04.239
<v Speaker 7>Fearful that I'm not fearful that, oh it's you know,

1431
01:23:04.279 --> 01:23:06.439
<v Speaker 7>it's going to erupt in conflict again because they hate

1432
01:23:06.439 --> 01:23:08.560
<v Speaker 7>each other so much, because they've killed each other so much,

1433
01:23:08.640 --> 01:23:12.760
<v Speaker 7>because you know, Japan and Korea and China killed a

1434
01:23:12.760 --> 01:23:14.920
<v Speaker 7>lot of people in World War Two, and then they

1435
01:23:15.039 --> 01:23:18.520
<v Speaker 7>went to trade with each other after that. Western Europe

1436
01:23:18.560 --> 01:23:20.640
<v Speaker 7>and Eastern Europe killed a lot of people in World

1437
01:23:20.640 --> 01:23:23.560
<v Speaker 7>War two, and then it's been pretty peaceful ever since then.

1438
01:23:24.520 --> 01:23:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but the culture of Southeast Asia or just East

1439
01:23:27.680 --> 01:23:30.600
<v Speaker 1>Asia as a whole, is very different than the culture

1440
01:23:30.760 --> 01:23:36.239
<v Speaker 1>of the Ukrainian geopolitical comp there's different conversations. But to

1441
01:23:36.439 --> 01:23:39.960
<v Speaker 1>your point, they started making trade happen with each other.

1442
01:23:40.000 --> 01:23:42.600
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, Ukraine and Russia haven't stopped trade. There

1443
01:23:42.680 --> 01:23:45.560
<v Speaker 1>is still the massive fuel pipeline that runs between Ukraine

1444
01:23:45.560 --> 01:23:47.560
<v Speaker 1>and Russia, and there are still payments being made on

1445
01:23:47.600 --> 01:23:50.560
<v Speaker 1>a monthly basis regardless of what the war is doing.

1446
01:23:50.640 --> 01:23:54.199
<v Speaker 1>So to your point, trade would resume for sure.

1447
01:23:54.760 --> 01:23:58.640
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I think it would. Beat. Ukraine and Russia have

1448
01:23:58.640 --> 01:24:03.840
<v Speaker 7>had mostly peacefuls all the way until maybe the past decade,

1449
01:24:03.880 --> 01:24:06.760
<v Speaker 7>and especially the last three years, there have been millions

1450
01:24:06.760 --> 01:24:11.399
<v Speaker 7>of Russians and Ukrainians intermarrying and living in each other's countries.

1451
01:24:11.439 --> 01:24:13.680
<v Speaker 7>It's kind of like how we have lots of Mexicans

1452
01:24:13.720 --> 01:24:16.399
<v Speaker 7>living in the United States. We have Mexican restaurants all

1453
01:24:16.439 --> 01:24:20.520
<v Speaker 7>over the dang place, even in you know, rural you know,

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01:24:20.600 --> 01:24:23.800
<v Speaker 7>North Dakota. And if you were to live in Russia

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01:24:23.800 --> 01:24:26.680
<v Speaker 7>and you just looked at Donald Trump's rhetoric about Mexicans

1456
01:24:26.680 --> 01:24:29.319
<v Speaker 7>in twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen, you would think US

1457
01:24:29.399 --> 01:24:31.960
<v Speaker 7>and Mexicans must really hate each other, and a few

1458
01:24:31.960 --> 01:24:34.159
<v Speaker 7>of them do, but the vast majority of US get

1459
01:24:34.199 --> 01:24:37.039
<v Speaker 7>along fine. Yeah, that's the way it could have been

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01:24:37.039 --> 01:24:39.920
<v Speaker 7>with Russia and Ukraine. And that's the way I think

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01:24:39.960 --> 01:24:42.439
<v Speaker 7>that it eventually will be with Russia and Ukraine. They

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01:24:42.479 --> 01:24:45.560
<v Speaker 7>don't actually really see themselves as they have to be enemies,

1463
01:24:45.600 --> 01:24:48.560
<v Speaker 7>like the Germans and the English. They're really friendly sometime,

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01:24:49.239 --> 01:24:51.479
<v Speaker 7>and you know, then the World Wars happened, but they

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01:24:51.560 --> 01:24:54.279
<v Speaker 7>still tried to be friends, you know, whenever they weren't

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01:24:54.319 --> 01:24:54.600
<v Speaker 7>at war.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you still the belief Tony that at March of

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01:24:59.000 --> 01:25:02.760
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty six, but at least by then we will

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01:25:02.760 --> 01:25:05.039
<v Speaker 1>see a peaceful situation in this region.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm still betting on that. So yeah, I wonder if

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<v Speaker 7>I should put ten dollars on it or something. That's

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01:25:11.720 --> 01:25:13.359
<v Speaker 7>what I said in March, and it was kind of

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01:25:13.479 --> 01:25:17.199
<v Speaker 7>arbitrary just twelve months, So yeah, all right, I'll send

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01:25:17.239 --> 01:25:18.640
<v Speaker 7>you ten dollars if I'm wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, you know what, we can have a running back

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01:25:20.800 --> 01:25:22.920
<v Speaker 1>going on. We can up it to twenty as a

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01:25:22.960 --> 01:25:25.119
<v Speaker 1>matter of fact, with oh Jackson on that. You know,

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01:25:25.319 --> 01:25:29.399
<v Speaker 1>we'll see. But that's the thing. I'm not even I

1479
01:25:29.399 --> 01:25:31.640
<v Speaker 1>don't even feel good about saying that there won't be

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01:25:31.680 --> 01:25:37.319
<v Speaker 1>a peaceful situation seen by March. I just from my perspective,

1481
01:25:37.359 --> 01:25:39.680
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not some sort of master of geopolitics by

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01:25:39.680 --> 01:25:42.760
<v Speaker 1>any means right. I understand there's way more nuances that

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01:25:43.239 --> 01:25:47.800
<v Speaker 1>I am unaware of for that conversation, but I have

1484
01:25:47.880 --> 01:25:52.000
<v Speaker 1>a hard time seeing either side coming to the negotiation

1485
01:25:52.159 --> 01:25:57.159
<v Speaker 1>table on this one because neither side can win. There

1486
01:25:57.239 --> 01:26:00.680
<v Speaker 1>is no winning as far as this conflict is concerned. Right,

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01:26:00.800 --> 01:26:03.439
<v Speaker 1>What does winning look like for Russia? What does winning

1488
01:26:03.439 --> 01:26:07.279
<v Speaker 1>look like for Ukraine? They both want way too much

1489
01:26:07.319 --> 01:26:10.239
<v Speaker 1>than they can actually have, So I don't think there's

1490
01:26:10.279 --> 01:26:12.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna be any side that feels good about it. And

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01:26:12.920 --> 01:26:14.479
<v Speaker 1>that's the thing. Even if they do come to some

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01:26:14.520 --> 01:26:18.079
<v Speaker 1>sort of a ceasefire agreement, I could see one false

1493
01:26:18.119 --> 01:26:23.359
<v Speaker 1>step coming out and rekickstarting all the conflict again in

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01:26:23.399 --> 01:26:24.319
<v Speaker 1>the snap of a finger.

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<v Speaker 7>I think. I think victory for Russia looks like victory

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01:26:29.000 --> 01:26:32.359
<v Speaker 7>for the United States in eighteen forty eight. They get

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01:26:32.359 --> 01:26:36.239
<v Speaker 7>a lot of territory, draw a new border, and say

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01:26:36.319 --> 01:26:39.840
<v Speaker 7>this is the way it's gonna be. And I think

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01:26:39.960 --> 01:26:43.760
<v Speaker 7>that has a high potential for being a permanent, peaceful solution.

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<v Speaker 1>Well see if it happens. Man. Honestly, I don't know.

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01:26:48.920 --> 01:26:53.600
<v Speaker 1>I've got such a lack of faith in governments as

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01:26:53.600 --> 01:26:57.479
<v Speaker 1>a whole, especially when war is on the table. I

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01:26:57.520 --> 01:26:59.960
<v Speaker 1>hope you're right. I just I have a hard time

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01:27:00.079 --> 01:27:02.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm believing it from my layman's perspective at this time.

1505
01:27:02.960 --> 01:27:06.319
<v Speaker 1>But hey, Trump is making deals happen. He's getting people

1506
01:27:06.319 --> 01:27:11.960
<v Speaker 1>to negotiation tables. We'll see, we shall see. But speaking

1507
01:27:12.000 --> 01:27:15.960
<v Speaker 1>of Trump and speaking of deals being struck, let's talk

1508
01:27:16.000 --> 01:27:21.159
<v Speaker 1>about something happening on our home soil. So Trump's DOJ

1509
01:27:21.560 --> 01:27:25.159
<v Speaker 1>is handing the Epstein documents to the House Oversight Committee

1510
01:27:25.159 --> 01:27:31.239
<v Speaker 1>on Friday as subpoena deadlight deadline rather looms. House Oversight

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01:27:31.319 --> 01:27:35.039
<v Speaker 1>Committee chair James Comer says the DOJ is cooperating in

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01:27:35.159 --> 01:27:40.039
<v Speaker 1>good faith effort to produce the files. Again, I don't

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01:27:40.039 --> 01:27:42.199
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of faith as far as this is concerned, either.

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01:27:42.359 --> 01:27:45.880
<v Speaker 1>But it is a greater than zero percent chance that

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01:27:46.079 --> 01:27:52.800
<v Speaker 1>a heavily, heavily heavily redacted stack of Epstein files is

1516
01:27:52.840 --> 01:27:55.079
<v Speaker 1>about to be released to the DOJ and in turn

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01:27:55.159 --> 01:27:58.359
<v Speaker 1>release to the public. List listen to old James Comer

1518
01:27:58.560 --> 01:27:59.880
<v Speaker 1>and see what he has to say about it.

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<v Speaker 14>Appreciate everybody being here today. We're very excited. This will

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01:28:05.439 --> 01:28:13.560
<v Speaker 14>be our first deposition in our bipartisan investigation into the

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01:28:13.720 --> 01:28:19.159
<v Speaker 14>entire Epstein Alan saga. So We've got a lot of

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01:28:19.239 --> 01:28:23.079
<v Speaker 14>questions for former Attorney General bar I appreciate his willingness

1523
01:28:23.119 --> 01:28:27.479
<v Speaker 14>to come in and hopefully this will be the first

1524
01:28:27.479 --> 01:28:29.720
<v Speaker 14>of many. All that triphy question.

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01:28:30.039 --> 01:28:33.800
<v Speaker 1>You set a deadline for tomorrow for DJ to release

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01:28:33.840 --> 01:28:37.279
<v Speaker 1>the unredacted full Epstein file. Do you expect them to

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01:28:37.439 --> 01:28:38.039
<v Speaker 1>deliver on that.

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01:28:38.279 --> 01:28:42.800
<v Speaker 14>Well, we're having really good conversations. You have to understand

1529
01:28:42.840 --> 01:28:45.720
<v Speaker 14>how many you could imagine how many documents there are.

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01:28:46.399 --> 01:28:48.840
<v Speaker 14>I think that we're going to have the I think

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01:28:48.880 --> 01:28:53.119
<v Speaker 14>we'll receive the documents very soon. They're compiling everything together.

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01:28:54.000 --> 01:28:57.680
<v Speaker 14>I think we're working together in a good faith effort,

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01:28:58.119 --> 01:29:01.680
<v Speaker 14>and everything's coming along. I expect to receive the documents

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01:29:01.720 --> 01:29:02.319
<v Speaker 14>very very soon.

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01:29:02.439 --> 01:29:04.720
<v Speaker 7>Is that their explanation though, that there's just so many

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01:29:04.760 --> 01:29:06.119
<v Speaker 7>documents that they can't meet your door.

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01:29:06.239 --> 01:29:09.720
<v Speaker 14>We always get that explanation every investigation we've done in

1538
01:29:09.760 --> 01:29:11.319
<v Speaker 14>the two and a half years i've been here. But

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01:29:11.520 --> 01:29:14.680
<v Speaker 14>I think that I'm confident we're going to get the documents.

1540
01:29:14.840 --> 01:29:16.680
<v Speaker 3>Are there other topics you're hoping to ask them about

1541
01:29:16.680 --> 01:29:18.279
<v Speaker 3>as well, or just Epstein.

1542
01:29:17.880 --> 01:29:18.399
<v Speaker 11>And ox faults?

1543
01:29:18.600 --> 01:29:20.960
<v Speaker 14>Well, that the subpoena was just for Epstein. There are

1544
01:29:21.000 --> 01:29:24.279
<v Speaker 14>some other things that I'm curious about. So we'll see

1545
01:29:24.279 --> 01:29:27.640
<v Speaker 14>how it goes. But obviously the purpose of this deposition

1546
01:29:27.800 --> 01:29:30.680
<v Speaker 14>is on Epstein, and when we learn more, I'll be

1547
01:29:30.680 --> 01:29:32.600
<v Speaker 14>happy to come out and answer some questions. Thank you

1548
01:29:32.640 --> 01:29:33.279
<v Speaker 14>all for being here.

1549
01:29:35.119 --> 01:29:39.039
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so again, let's see if it actually comes through

1550
01:29:39.079 --> 01:29:41.720
<v Speaker 1>to fruition or if it's going to be a way

1551
01:29:41.760 --> 01:29:45.800
<v Speaker 1>too heavily redacted. List that nothing new as far as

1552
01:29:45.880 --> 01:29:48.359
<v Speaker 1>information is going to come to light, we shall see.

1553
01:29:48.359 --> 01:29:51.279
<v Speaker 1>But let's read in here. The Trump administration will begin

1554
01:29:51.399 --> 01:29:54.840
<v Speaker 1>handing over documents related to Epstein's case to the House

1555
01:29:54.920 --> 01:29:59.279
<v Speaker 1>Oversight Committee on Friday. Like we just heard Chair James

1556
01:29:59.319 --> 01:30:03.199
<v Speaker 1>Comer say, House investigators originally requested the Department of Justice

1557
01:30:03.279 --> 01:30:09.720
<v Speaker 1>to produce a tranch Trunch Trench sure of files pertaining

1558
01:30:09.720 --> 01:30:13.359
<v Speaker 1>to the late pedophile and his accomplished Ghizlaine Maxwell by

1559
01:30:13.439 --> 01:30:16.680
<v Speaker 1>twelve pm on Tuesday, August nineteenth. It's part of a

1560
01:30:16.720 --> 01:30:20.399
<v Speaker 1>wider bipartisan investigation into the handling of the Epstein's case,

1561
01:30:20.680 --> 01:30:24.640
<v Speaker 1>which has also reached several former attorneys general, FBI directors,

1562
01:30:24.640 --> 01:30:29.239
<v Speaker 1>and former first couple Bill and Hillary Clinton. Shocker that

1563
01:30:29.359 --> 01:30:32.000
<v Speaker 1>they would be involved with this. Let's not forget the

1564
01:30:32.079 --> 01:30:34.840
<v Speaker 1>painting that was over the fireplace on Epstein Island of

1565
01:30:34.840 --> 01:30:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Bill Clinton in a blue dress. That's a real painting

1566
01:30:38.000 --> 01:30:41.159
<v Speaker 1>that was there. But anyway, Comer announced Monday afternoon that

1567
01:30:41.239 --> 01:30:44.279
<v Speaker 1>he would delay the deadline until Friday in late in

1568
01:30:44.399 --> 01:30:47.760
<v Speaker 1>light of the DOJS cooperation. This is direct quote. Officially

1569
01:30:47.760 --> 01:30:49.880
<v Speaker 1>with the Department of Justice have informed us that the

1570
01:30:49.920 --> 01:30:53.399
<v Speaker 1>Department will begin to provide the Epstein related records to

1571
01:30:53.479 --> 01:30:56.159
<v Speaker 1>the Oversight Committee this week on Friday. There are many

1572
01:30:56.199 --> 01:30:58.880
<v Speaker 1>records in DOJ's custody, and it will take the Department

1573
01:30:58.960 --> 01:31:01.920
<v Speaker 1>time to produce all the records and ensure identification of

1574
01:31:02.000 --> 01:31:07.560
<v Speaker 1>victims and any child sexual abuse material are redacted. Comber

1575
01:31:07.600 --> 01:31:11.199
<v Speaker 1>said in a statement, I appreciate the Trump's administration's commitment

1576
01:31:11.279 --> 01:31:14.359
<v Speaker 1>to transparency and efforts to provide the American people with

1577
01:31:14.439 --> 01:31:17.920
<v Speaker 1>information about this matter. Comber told the reporters early Monday

1578
01:31:17.960 --> 01:31:20.359
<v Speaker 1>that his panel was having good conversations with the DOJ

1579
01:31:20.479 --> 01:31:24.439
<v Speaker 1>related to the document production, but was noncommittal when asked

1580
01:31:24.479 --> 01:31:27.039
<v Speaker 1>if the August nineteenth goal would be met. You can

1581
01:31:27.079 --> 01:31:29.239
<v Speaker 1>imagine how many documents there are, he said, We just

1582
01:31:29.239 --> 01:31:31.520
<v Speaker 1>heard him say that. As a matter of fact, Comber

1583
01:31:31.560 --> 01:31:36.720
<v Speaker 1>said the DOJ was operating in good faith. Requested materials

1584
01:31:36.760 --> 01:31:40.680
<v Speaker 1>included all documents and communications in the DOJ's possession relating

1585
01:31:40.720 --> 01:31:43.720
<v Speaker 1>to both Epstein and Maxwell, as well as files further

1586
01:31:43.800 --> 01:31:48.760
<v Speaker 1>relating to or referring to human trafficking, exploitation of minor

1587
01:31:48.800 --> 01:31:54.159
<v Speaker 1>sexual abuse, or related activities. Documents relating specifically to the

1588
01:31:54.239 --> 01:31:57.560
<v Speaker 1>DOJ's prosecutions of Epstein and Maxwell, Epstein's two thousand and

1589
01:31:57.600 --> 01:32:01.279
<v Speaker 1>seven non prosecutal agreement with federal prosecut in Florida, and

1590
01:32:01.359 --> 01:32:04.800
<v Speaker 1>any materials related to Epstein's death were requested. The House

1591
01:32:04.880 --> 01:32:08.800
<v Speaker 1>Oversight Committee asked for the documents to be largely largely unredacted,

1592
01:32:08.840 --> 01:32:12.079
<v Speaker 1>according to the subpoena obtained by Fox News Digital, except

1593
01:32:12.119 --> 01:32:17.199
<v Speaker 1>for redactions to protect the personal personnel Jesus, except for

1594
01:32:17.359 --> 01:32:21.479
<v Speaker 1>redactions to protect the personally identifiable information of victims, for

1595
01:32:21.560 --> 01:32:24.479
<v Speaker 1>any child sex abuse material as defined by the Department

1596
01:32:24.520 --> 01:32:27.960
<v Speaker 1>of Justice manual, and any other redactions required by law,

1597
01:32:28.119 --> 01:32:32.720
<v Speaker 1>which no one is upset about that. Okay, we're not

1598
01:32:32.760 --> 01:32:36.039
<v Speaker 1>trying to have these victims have their name blasted all

1599
01:32:36.039 --> 01:32:40.119
<v Speaker 1>over the place to where they feel re triggered by

1600
01:32:40.159 --> 01:32:42.439
<v Speaker 1>the horrible events that they were a part of. Like

1601
01:32:42.479 --> 01:32:45.840
<v Speaker 1>I we get that we want to know the other

1602
01:32:45.880 --> 01:32:49.600
<v Speaker 1>guilty parties, not the names of the victims. I don't

1603
01:32:49.640 --> 01:32:52.720
<v Speaker 1>think anybody that's asking for the Epstein files is asking

1604
01:32:52.760 --> 01:32:55.159
<v Speaker 1>for the names of the victims, but sure they keep

1605
01:32:55.159 --> 01:32:58.439
<v Speaker 1>going on about that. The deadline comes a day after

1606
01:32:58.520 --> 01:33:01.680
<v Speaker 1>former Attorney General Bill bar was deposed by the House

1607
01:33:01.720 --> 01:33:05.119
<v Speaker 1>Overside Committee behind closed doors. Barr was the first person

1608
01:33:05.199 --> 01:33:08.279
<v Speaker 1>scheduled to appear in the committee's probe under subpoena. The

1609
01:33:08.359 --> 01:33:14.079
<v Speaker 1>Clintons both have separate deposition dates scheduled for October. Comber

1610
01:33:14.199 --> 01:33:16.720
<v Speaker 1>was directed to send the flurry of subpoenas after a

1611
01:33:16.760 --> 01:33:20.760
<v Speaker 1>House Overside Committee subcommittee panel voted in favor of them

1612
01:33:20.840 --> 01:33:24.720
<v Speaker 1>during an unrelated hearing in July. Renewed fervor over Epstein's

1613
01:33:24.760 --> 01:33:28.039
<v Speaker 1>case in Gulf Capitol Hill after entered GOP fallout over

1614
01:33:28.119 --> 01:33:32.119
<v Speaker 1>the Trump administration's handling of the matter. Yeah, I'll bet

1615
01:33:32.680 --> 01:33:36.520
<v Speaker 1>the DOJ effectively declared the case closed after an quote

1616
01:33:36.600 --> 01:33:42.319
<v Speaker 1>unquote exhaustive review revealing Epstein had quote unquote no client list,

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01:33:42.840 --> 01:33:46.960
<v Speaker 1>did not blackmail prominent individuals, and confirmed he did die

1618
01:33:47.000 --> 01:33:50.720
<v Speaker 1>by suicide in a New York City jail while awaiting prosecution.

1619
01:33:51.920 --> 01:33:54.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna be speaking on behalf of Jacob on

1620
01:33:54.279 --> 01:33:58.239
<v Speaker 1>this one. Lies, lies and more lies. But all right,

1621
01:33:58.319 --> 01:34:01.560
<v Speaker 1>let's continue in respe response to the backlash by some

1622
01:34:01.640 --> 01:34:04.680
<v Speaker 1>on the right, Trump directed the EJ to release grand

1623
01:34:04.760 --> 01:34:08.439
<v Speaker 1>jury testimony related to Epstein, a request that's been tied

1624
01:34:08.520 --> 01:34:12.000
<v Speaker 1>up in courts since then. While Attorney General Pam Bondi

1625
01:34:12.119 --> 01:34:15.640
<v Speaker 1>had her deputy Todd Blanche interview Maxwell in person to

1626
01:34:15.840 --> 01:34:20.640
<v Speaker 1>uncover any possible new information. Comer also subpoena Maxwell, but

1627
01:34:20.680 --> 01:34:23.840
<v Speaker 1>agreed to defer her scheduled deposition until after the Supreme

1628
01:34:23.840 --> 01:34:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Court heard her appeal to overturn her conviction. I still

1629
01:34:27.720 --> 01:34:31.279
<v Speaker 1>find it odd that we are only just now actually

1630
01:34:31.359 --> 01:34:36.199
<v Speaker 1>questioning Maxwell. It's not like she refused to answer questioning.

1631
01:34:36.960 --> 01:34:42.079
<v Speaker 1>They refused to question her until like last month. That

1632
01:34:42.279 --> 01:34:45.880
<v Speaker 1>is mind blowing to me. But when you understand the

1633
01:34:46.079 --> 01:34:49.840
<v Speaker 1>realm of the political elite and how Epstein's Island and

1634
01:34:49.960 --> 01:34:52.159
<v Speaker 1>all of the other things played in with that, it

1635
01:34:52.239 --> 01:34:55.760
<v Speaker 1>also makes perfect sense. So I don't know what's gonna

1636
01:34:55.760 --> 01:34:58.960
<v Speaker 1>come of this. I'm not expecting a lot, to be

1637
01:34:59.000 --> 01:35:02.359
<v Speaker 1>completely honest with you, I hope for a lot. I

1638
01:35:02.399 --> 01:35:05.479
<v Speaker 1>hope that we get a real client list or flight

1639
01:35:05.600 --> 01:35:09.880
<v Speaker 1>logs or anything of the nature of this. But I

1640
01:35:09.920 --> 01:35:13.119
<v Speaker 1>also believe that this is going to be heavily heavily

1641
01:35:13.159 --> 01:35:16.560
<v Speaker 1>redacted to protect all of the important players. Hell, Trump's

1642
01:35:16.600 --> 01:35:20.439
<v Speaker 1>name was listed on these logs multiple times. I don't

1643
01:35:20.479 --> 01:35:24.319
<v Speaker 1>know if this was because Epstein was the money laundering

1644
01:35:24.399 --> 01:35:27.079
<v Speaker 1>guy for the political elites of the world, and maybe

1645
01:35:27.159 --> 01:35:29.439
<v Speaker 1>that's why Trump's name was listed, because he was trying

1646
01:35:29.439 --> 01:35:31.319
<v Speaker 1>to hide some dollar bills to where he didn't get

1647
01:35:31.359 --> 01:35:34.800
<v Speaker 1>taxed on it. Okay, was it flight logs on the

1648
01:35:34.840 --> 01:35:39.920
<v Speaker 1>Lolita Express. Was it times that he actually visited Epstein's

1649
01:35:39.960 --> 01:35:43.359
<v Speaker 1>island itself. The sky's a limit as far as the

1650
01:35:43.439 --> 01:35:47.319
<v Speaker 1>hypotheses are concerned. I am hoping that the list is

1651
01:35:47.319 --> 01:35:49.239
<v Speaker 1>not going to be too heavily redacted and we get

1652
01:35:49.239 --> 01:35:52.640
<v Speaker 1>some real justice. I just have a hard time actually

1653
01:35:52.720 --> 01:35:56.960
<v Speaker 1>believing it and seeing it for myself. I don't know anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, before we wrap, I am going to go

1655
01:35:59.039 --> 01:36:02.000
<v Speaker 1>to the chat and see what everybody has shared on

1656
01:36:02.039 --> 01:36:06.720
<v Speaker 1>this evening. Let's see, Raven Lee has shared an article

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<v Speaker 1>business Louisiana Meta AI Data Center. WHOA what is happening here? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Louisiana regulators approve power plant for Giant Meta AI data Center.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, yeah, we definitely got to talk about that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Scrolling down a little bit here, Claire has sent another article,

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01:36:26.640 --> 01:36:32.520
<v Speaker 1>Roadblocks retaliates against child abuse survivor who exposed platforms predator problem.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, yeah, we're definite gonna have to talk about

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01:36:34.800 --> 01:36:36.119
<v Speaker 1>that one as well. I'm just gonna pull up all

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<v Speaker 1>the articles that y'all send as a matter of fact.

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<v Speaker 1>Another one from Claire. This one says research suggests doctors

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01:36:43.119 --> 01:36:47.239
<v Speaker 1>might quickly become dependent on AI. I agree with that.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll read into that one here in a moment. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go let us all all right, I'm go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and share the screen again again. For anybody who is

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01:36:55.640 --> 01:36:57.000
<v Speaker 1>just listening, who would like to be a part of

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01:36:57.039 --> 01:37:01.439
<v Speaker 1>this conversation, please join us on Wednesday nights at the

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01:37:01.560 --> 01:37:04.720
<v Speaker 1>Cajun Night on Patreon. Link is in the description below.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start off here. Louisiana regulators approve power plant for

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01:37:09.640 --> 01:37:15.439
<v Speaker 1>Giant Meta AI data center. The growing risk of AI

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01:37:15.840 --> 01:37:18.239
<v Speaker 1>and the fact that most people don't actually see it

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01:37:18.239 --> 01:37:20.920
<v Speaker 1>as a risk still bothers me. But all right, let's

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01:37:20.920 --> 01:37:24.000
<v Speaker 1>read it in here. State regulators on Wednesday approved a

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01:37:24.000 --> 01:37:29.640
<v Speaker 1>controversial plan to Power Tech Giants' Meta largest official intelligence

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01:37:29.720 --> 01:37:34.199
<v Speaker 1>data center yet to be built in rural northeast Louisiana,

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01:37:34.199 --> 01:37:38.119
<v Speaker 1>clearing the wave for construction of three gas fired electricity plants.

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01:37:38.399 --> 01:37:41.159
<v Speaker 1>The Public Service Commission voted four to one in favor

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01:37:41.199 --> 01:37:43.800
<v Speaker 1>of the plan proposed by Energy at a meeting in

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01:37:43.840 --> 01:37:47.479
<v Speaker 1>the city of Plaqueman, following hours of public debate. The

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01:37:47.520 --> 01:37:51.199
<v Speaker 1>power plant is key for Meta's ten billion dollar facility

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01:37:51.279 --> 01:37:54.239
<v Speaker 1>to move forward. The project will be built on former

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01:37:54.279 --> 01:37:58.159
<v Speaker 1>agricultural land the size of around seventy football fields. Meta

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01:37:58.159 --> 01:38:01.319
<v Speaker 1>CEO Mark Zuckerberg has spoken to further expanding it to

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01:38:01.399 --> 01:38:05.439
<v Speaker 1>a size that would rival the footprint of Manhattan as

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01:38:05.439 --> 01:38:08.760
<v Speaker 1>the company dives headlong into the high stakes race to

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01:38:08.840 --> 01:38:14.439
<v Speaker 1>dominate the energy AI or emerging AI industry. Wednesday's approval

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01:38:14.479 --> 01:38:19.159
<v Speaker 1>was largely expected, as Louisiana officials, including Governor Jeff Landry,

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01:38:19.520 --> 01:38:23.039
<v Speaker 1>have welcomed the project as an economic development game changer

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01:38:23.079 --> 01:38:25.600
<v Speaker 1>in a long struggling region of the state, but the

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01:38:25.640 --> 01:38:29.560
<v Speaker 1>project in Richland Parish has also drawn sharp criticism over

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01:38:29.600 --> 01:38:35.560
<v Speaker 1>its huge energy needs. Speaking on behalf of somebody who

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01:38:35.600 --> 01:38:39.880
<v Speaker 1>lives in Louisiana and knows Plaquemen very well, I wouldn't

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01:38:39.960 --> 01:38:46.640
<v Speaker 1>call that area a long struggling region. They have quite

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01:38:46.640 --> 01:38:53.399
<v Speaker 1>a few big facilities and refineries dal Plaquemin, Shintech, Tocaya

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01:38:53.520 --> 01:38:58.199
<v Speaker 1>Carbon Black Placid who holds a lot of government contracts

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01:38:58.239 --> 01:39:01.960
<v Speaker 1>as far as jet fuel and diesel goes. So I

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01:39:02.000 --> 01:39:05.279
<v Speaker 1>don't think this is a long struggling area by any means.

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01:39:05.359 --> 01:39:07.439
<v Speaker 1>It's rural, but that's also because most of the people

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01:39:07.520 --> 01:39:11.800
<v Speaker 1>that live there want it to remain rural. But all right,

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01:39:12.000 --> 01:39:17.119
<v Speaker 1>moving on, Much of the debate has involved whether average

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01:39:17.159 --> 01:39:19.960
<v Speaker 1>electricity rate payers and businesses state wide will end up

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01:39:20.000 --> 01:39:22.079
<v Speaker 1>shouldering at least some of the costs associated with the

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01:39:22.079 --> 01:39:25.720
<v Speaker 1>power plant Energy has set out for the facility. Energy

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01:39:25.760 --> 01:39:28.720
<v Speaker 1>says there are safeguards in place and argues that the

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01:39:28.760 --> 01:39:33.239
<v Speaker 1>new plant will ultimately benefit everyone. In one sense, I

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01:39:33.239 --> 01:39:35.359
<v Speaker 1>could see that, especially if you're building a power plant.

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01:39:35.479 --> 01:39:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Usually these plants will sell back their excess energy to

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01:39:38.720 --> 01:39:41.960
<v Speaker 1>the city, which in turn will lower energy costs for

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01:39:42.039 --> 01:39:46.079
<v Speaker 1>the local inhabitants of said city. That's not a one

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01:39:46.159 --> 01:39:50.359
<v Speaker 1>hundred percent guarantee, But I've worked at many a facility

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01:39:50.399 --> 01:39:52.520
<v Speaker 1>that have power plants that end up selling it back

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01:39:52.560 --> 01:39:55.840
<v Speaker 1>to the city. So who knows Those divisions were on

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01:39:55.880 --> 01:39:59.439
<v Speaker 1>display at Wednesday's fast tracked vote, which occurred a couple

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01:39:59.479 --> 01:40:02.319
<v Speaker 1>of months before were initially planned. I'm not for this

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01:40:02.359 --> 01:40:05.600
<v Speaker 1>project one percent, ten percent, or one hundred percent. Commissioner

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01:40:05.640 --> 01:40:08.399
<v Speaker 1>Foster Campbell, who represents the district where the data center

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01:40:08.479 --> 01:40:13.439
<v Speaker 1>will be built. I'm for this project one thousand percent. Well,

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01:40:13.439 --> 01:40:15.720
<v Speaker 1>all right, as far as tripling down goes, there we go.

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<v Speaker 1>Commissioner Devonte Lewis casts the only vote against the plan.

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01:40:20.159 --> 01:40:23.039
<v Speaker 1>He says the agreement left fundamental questions on the table

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01:40:23.079 --> 01:40:28.720
<v Speaker 1>that were too bitter to swallow. Proponents spoke at length

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01:40:28.880 --> 01:40:31.279
<v Speaker 1>of the higher rates of poverty in the region and

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01:40:31.359 --> 01:40:35.119
<v Speaker 1>the need for high paying jobs in North Louisiana. We're

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01:40:35.199 --> 01:40:39.279
<v Speaker 1>currently underway on the facility is already leading to exponential

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01:40:39.319 --> 01:40:42.119
<v Speaker 1>growth for small businesses in the area, said Rob Cleveland,

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01:40:42.159 --> 01:40:46.000
<v Speaker 1>head of the Economic Development Authority in Northeast Louisiana. We

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01:40:46.119 --> 01:40:49.039
<v Speaker 1>choose Louisiana as a home for our largest data center

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01:40:49.119 --> 01:40:52.960
<v Speaker 1>yet for a variety of reasons, including excellent access to infrastructure,

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01:40:53.239 --> 01:40:57.640
<v Speaker 1>a strong workforce, and a reliable grid, said Ashley Settle,

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01:40:57.640 --> 01:41:00.680
<v Speaker 1>a spokesperson for META. But over a dozen people from

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01:41:00.720 --> 01:41:03.920
<v Speaker 1>across the state urge regulators to deny the vote, raising

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01:41:03.960 --> 01:41:08.000
<v Speaker 1>concerns over raising gas prices, unclear job commitments by the

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01:41:08.039 --> 01:41:12.920
<v Speaker 1>tech company, water demands of the facility, and environmental risks.

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01:41:13.800 --> 01:41:16.960
<v Speaker 1>META has provided no assurance that these supposed jobs are

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01:41:17.000 --> 01:41:20.079
<v Speaker 1>going to go to Louisiana residents. That's a very good

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01:41:20.079 --> 01:41:22.720
<v Speaker 1>point set a Lake Charles's resident with a financial and

1741
01:41:22.840 --> 01:41:26.840
<v Speaker 1>environmental impact this big Please please push this vote so

1742
01:41:26.960 --> 01:41:30.399
<v Speaker 1>the enormous risk associated with this Meta's data center will

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01:41:30.399 --> 01:41:33.199
<v Speaker 1>need roughly three times the amount of electricity of the

1744
01:41:33.199 --> 01:41:37.359
<v Speaker 1>City of New Orleans uses in a year, increase Energy's

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01:41:37.399 --> 01:41:41.880
<v Speaker 1>electric needs in the state by around thirty percent yikes.

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<v Speaker 1>With the Commission's approval, the utility can now begin constructing

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01:41:46.119 --> 01:41:50.479
<v Speaker 1>the three new plants and other transmissions infrastructures. Two of

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01:41:50.520 --> 01:41:53.199
<v Speaker 1>the electricity plants will be located near the data center

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01:41:53.239 --> 01:41:56.760
<v Speaker 1>in Richland Parish and a third in Saint Charles Parish.

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01:41:57.199 --> 01:42:02.560
<v Speaker 1>Both environmental advocacy groups and oil gas petrochemical companies disputed

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01:42:02.760 --> 01:42:06.640
<v Speaker 1>Entergy's request to build over five billion dollars in new infrastructure,

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01:42:07.039 --> 01:42:10.479
<v Speaker 1>arguing that the plan risks increased bills for all types

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01:42:10.520 --> 01:42:13.000
<v Speaker 1>of rate payers. The imposition of the risk to the

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01:42:13.079 --> 01:42:16.600
<v Speaker 1>rate payers, and the increase in introduce returns comes upfront,

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01:42:16.880 --> 01:42:20.239
<v Speaker 1>while the potential benefits of the taxpayers may materialize over

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01:42:20.239 --> 01:42:22.800
<v Speaker 1>the course of many years, but are based on speculative

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01:42:22.840 --> 01:42:26.319
<v Speaker 1>assumptions and thus far from certain at this time. The

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01:42:26.479 --> 01:42:30.479
<v Speaker 1>Louisiana Energy Users Group wrote in a letter Monday to

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01:42:30.560 --> 01:42:36.000
<v Speaker 1>the regulators LEEUG that group is composed of about of

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01:42:36.079 --> 01:42:39.800
<v Speaker 1>around thirty companies in the state, including Exxon Shell and Dow,

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01:42:40.159 --> 01:42:43.079
<v Speaker 1>which collectively spend over five point five billion in the

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01:42:43.119 --> 01:42:47.399
<v Speaker 1>state each year on electricity and other services. So, okay,

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01:42:47.680 --> 01:42:51.640
<v Speaker 1>they are approving this new power plant to be built

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01:42:51.680 --> 01:42:57.199
<v Speaker 1>to power meta AI data. That's I'm already not in

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01:42:57.239 --> 01:43:01.960
<v Speaker 1>favor of it, just because of the AI conversation. It's yeah,

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01:43:01.960 --> 01:43:06.159
<v Speaker 1>this will lead to some local jobs, certain like long

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01:43:06.239 --> 01:43:09.159
<v Speaker 1>term local jobs. You're gonna need electricians, you're gonna need

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01:43:09.199 --> 01:43:11.600
<v Speaker 1>texts to run the facility and do maintenance on and

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01:43:11.640 --> 01:43:15.479
<v Speaker 1>all of that. But a data center doesn't have thousands

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01:43:15.479 --> 01:43:18.359
<v Speaker 1>and thousands and thousands of employees like some sort of

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01:43:18.359 --> 01:43:22.520
<v Speaker 1>a manufacturing or a production line goes. So I see

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01:43:22.560 --> 01:43:26.039
<v Speaker 1>it as a short term money grab for sure. I

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01:43:26.079 --> 01:43:28.439
<v Speaker 1>don't see it as a long term good thing. But

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01:43:29.439 --> 01:43:33.960
<v Speaker 1>the Apparently the lawmakers and regulators are super on board

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01:43:33.960 --> 01:43:37.359
<v Speaker 1>with this. I guess weny embrace for impact on that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Moving on to the next topic that was brought into

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<v Speaker 1>the check, Roadblocks retail retaliates against child abuse survivor who

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01:43:45.399 --> 01:43:51.880
<v Speaker 1>exposed platforms predator problem. Okay, I don't know what is

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01:43:51.960 --> 01:43:54.479
<v Speaker 1>going on. Well, I mean I do because people are

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01:43:54.520 --> 01:43:58.680
<v Speaker 1>talking about it. But Roadblocks has been on the mind

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01:43:59.079 --> 01:44:02.039
<v Speaker 1>of so many of my favorite content creators this week.

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01:44:02.159 --> 01:44:06.960
<v Speaker 1>I have legitimately watched three different long form videos about

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01:44:07.079 --> 01:44:12.600
<v Speaker 1>roadblocks and how they are a being used by predators

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01:44:12.680 --> 01:44:18.000
<v Speaker 1>to prey upon children. B Roadblocks knows this and is

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01:44:18.000 --> 01:44:21.800
<v Speaker 1>doing nothing about it, and then C in certain cases,

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01:44:21.880 --> 01:44:26.239
<v Speaker 1>Roadblocks is promoting it for that purpose, and then D

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01:44:27.079 --> 01:44:30.640
<v Speaker 1>when that gets exposed. Roadblocks is actually suing these people

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01:44:30.760 --> 01:44:35.840
<v Speaker 1>for spinning rhetoric that is baseless, even though these people

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01:44:35.840 --> 01:44:38.920
<v Speaker 1>are showing receipts and can prove every single claim that

1790
01:44:39.000 --> 01:44:41.119
<v Speaker 1>is being made. So you know what. Let's read in

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01:44:41.199 --> 01:44:45.600
<v Speaker 1>on this. One content creator's viral videos led to six

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01:44:45.840 --> 01:44:49.720
<v Speaker 1>arrests before the company silenced him with legal threats. A

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01:44:49.800 --> 01:44:52.960
<v Speaker 1>childhood survivor of grooming on Roadblocks is now facing corporate

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01:44:53.000 --> 01:44:57.319
<v Speaker 1>retaliation after his viral predator catching videos led to multiple

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01:44:57.439 --> 01:45:04.239
<v Speaker 1>arrests and exposed systemic failures in the platform's child protection systems. Wow,

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01:45:04.640 --> 01:45:08.760
<v Speaker 1>all right, let's let's talk about it here, Sinar Gould,

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01:45:09.000 --> 01:45:17.279
<v Speaker 1>Greatco and Hinsley pllcsggh and Milberg, Coleman, Bryson, Phillips, Grossman,

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01:45:17.720 --> 01:45:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Jesus Christ. These law firms have been retained to defend

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01:45:20.880 --> 01:45:23.920
<v Speaker 1>the YouTuber Michael Schlepp, a twenty two year old Texas

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01:45:23.920 --> 01:45:26.800
<v Speaker 1>content creator who was banned from Roadblocks and served with

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01:45:27.119 --> 01:45:30.640
<v Speaker 1>cease and assist letters after his investigative work resulted in

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01:45:30.720 --> 01:45:34.560
<v Speaker 1>six confirmed arrests of alleged child predators operating on the

1803
01:45:34.600 --> 01:45:38.079
<v Speaker 1>gaming platform. The legal action against Slap comes as his

1804
01:45:38.199 --> 01:45:42.399
<v Speaker 1>removal has sparked the viral hashtag free Schlap movement, garnering

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01:45:42.399 --> 01:45:45.640
<v Speaker 1>millions of views and prompting a major Roadblocks influencer to

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01:45:45.680 --> 01:45:49.520
<v Speaker 1>quit the company's creator program and protest crime journalist Chris

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01:45:49.520 --> 01:45:53.239
<v Speaker 1>Hansen maybe You've heard of him, has contacted Schlepp about

1808
01:45:53.239 --> 01:45:57.720
<v Speaker 1>participating in an upcoming documentary investigating Roadblocks's handling of child

1809
01:45:57.840 --> 01:46:02.960
<v Speaker 1>safety issues. A survivor's mission becomes legal target Schlep's anti

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01:46:03.000 --> 01:46:05.840
<v Speaker 1>predator work stems from his own traumatic experiences as a

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01:46:05.920 --> 01:46:09.319
<v Speaker 1>Roseblock user. Between the ages of twelve and fifteen, he

1812
01:46:09.439 --> 01:46:13.079
<v Speaker 1>was groomed by a prominent Roadblocks developer who had official

1813
01:46:13.199 --> 01:46:18.239
<v Speaker 1>company merchandise distributed nationwide and contracted directly with Roadblocks for

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01:46:18.279 --> 01:46:23.199
<v Speaker 1>platform events. The developer, since Schlept, graphic violent content, pornography,

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01:46:23.359 --> 01:46:26.880
<v Speaker 1>and engaged in inappropriate sexual conversations. This is a direct

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01:46:26.920 --> 01:46:30.359
<v Speaker 1>quote here. When my client attempted suicide and was hospitalized,

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01:46:30.600 --> 01:46:35.560
<v Speaker 1>his mother contacted Roadblocks seeking help. Roadblocks was unresponsive until

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01:46:35.680 --> 01:46:39.840
<v Speaker 1>she threatened legal action. Only then did they engage, and

1819
01:46:39.960 --> 01:46:44.520
<v Speaker 1>only to claim the abuse happened quote on another platform,

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<v Speaker 1>despite the predator being a contracted Roadblocks developer who the

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01:46:48.840 --> 01:46:52.760
<v Speaker 1>company promoted at events. The developer who groomed Schlepp was

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01:46:52.800 --> 01:46:56.239
<v Speaker 1>eventually banned from Roadblocks, but only years later after another

1823
01:46:56.319 --> 01:47:00.359
<v Speaker 1>female developer reported sexual abuse, Roadblocks had continued paying and

1824
01:47:00.439 --> 01:47:05.800
<v Speaker 1>promoting the predator Throughout Schlep's ordeal Wow working with established

1825
01:47:05.840 --> 01:47:10.560
<v Speaker 1>predator catching organizations including Predator Poachers, which has over three

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01:47:10.640 --> 01:47:15.279
<v Speaker 1>hundred convictions, and EPD Watch, Schlepp's team achieved a remarkable

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01:47:15.319 --> 01:47:20.319
<v Speaker 1>success rate six arrests from seven real life confrontations with suspects.

1828
01:47:20.960 --> 01:47:25.640
<v Speaker 1>Suspected predators initially contacted through Roadblocks. Rather than addressing the

1829
01:47:25.680 --> 01:47:31.000
<v Speaker 1>safety vulnerabilities, Schlepp exposed, Roadblocks updated its terms of service

1830
01:47:31.119 --> 01:47:36.479
<v Speaker 1>to specifically target quote unquote vigilante groups, and then banned

1831
01:47:36.560 --> 01:47:39.760
<v Speaker 1>him from the platform. The company then escalated with legal

1832
01:47:39.800 --> 01:47:43.319
<v Speaker 1>threats under the Computer Fraud Act, the same statute used

1833
01:47:43.319 --> 01:47:46.920
<v Speaker 1>in Roadblock's shameful lawsuit against another prominent critic, Ruben sim

1834
01:47:47.279 --> 01:47:52.159
<v Speaker 1>who has also recently retained the SGGH and Milberg Law firms,

1835
01:47:52.680 --> 01:47:55.079
<v Speaker 1>is a direct quote here. Instead of thanking someone who

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01:47:55.119 --> 01:47:58.359
<v Speaker 1>is protecting children and working with law enforcement, Roadblocks is

1837
01:47:58.399 --> 01:48:01.520
<v Speaker 1>trying to silence them with the same legal intimidation tactics

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01:48:01.560 --> 01:48:05.399
<v Speaker 1>they've used before. This pattern suggests a company more concerned

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01:48:05.399 --> 01:48:09.119
<v Speaker 1>with suppressing criticisms and addressing the predator problem on their

1840
01:48:09.159 --> 01:48:14.800
<v Speaker 1>own platform. Geezus Okay, so they just Roadblocks just started

1841
01:48:14.840 --> 01:48:17.720
<v Speaker 1>digging and they have not put down the shovel yet.

1842
01:48:18.119 --> 01:48:22.640
<v Speaker 1>Here we go. The hashtag free Schlap campaign has exposed

1843
01:48:22.680 --> 01:48:26.800
<v Speaker 1>broader frustrations with Roadblocks child safety records, with supporters noting

1844
01:48:26.880 --> 01:48:29.840
<v Speaker 1>the irony of the company punishing someone for doing the

1845
01:48:29.880 --> 01:48:33.880
<v Speaker 1>protective work they claim to prioritize. Michael is doing exactly

1846
01:48:33.880 --> 01:48:37.119
<v Speaker 1>what Roadblocks should be doing, identifying and stopping predators who

1847
01:48:37.159 --> 01:48:42.239
<v Speaker 1>target children. This is Milburgh co counsel Gary Klinzer or

1848
01:48:42.399 --> 01:48:46.720
<v Speaker 1>Ya Klinger and Melinda Maxon. Instead of partnering with him,

1849
01:48:46.720 --> 01:48:48.840
<v Speaker 1>they are trying to destroy him, and that tells you

1850
01:48:48.960 --> 01:48:53.560
<v Speaker 1>everything about their real priorities. The case is attracted attention

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01:48:53.680 --> 01:48:57.159
<v Speaker 1>from major media outlets and child safety advocates, with several

1852
01:48:57.279 --> 01:49:01.319
<v Speaker 1>nation national interviews scheduled this week. The controversy has also

1853
01:49:01.359 --> 01:49:04.399
<v Speaker 1>prompted at least one major Roadblocks content career to publicly

1854
01:49:04.520 --> 01:49:08.840
<v Speaker 1>quit the company's influencer program in solidarity with Schlep. Roadblocks

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01:49:08.880 --> 01:49:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Corporation declined to comment. Shocker moving on here. SGGH specializes

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01:49:14.920 --> 01:49:18.279
<v Speaker 1>in high profile litigations against major corporations, while merril Berg

1857
01:49:18.640 --> 01:49:22.079
<v Speaker 1>is a leading class action and whistleblower protection firm with

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01:49:22.239 --> 01:49:28.840
<v Speaker 1>extensive experience in cases involving corporate accountability and consumer protection. Roadblocks, whistleblower, Schlep,

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01:49:28.960 --> 01:49:33.439
<v Speaker 1>and sim are represented by Martin D. Gould, Michael R.

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<v Speaker 1>Greco and Steven L. Vander Porten of Stenar Gold Greco

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<v Speaker 1>and Hensley Jesus a lot of names these very high

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<v Speaker 1>profile legal firms. Let's just leave it at that. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>see Stinner Gold Greco Hinsley is a boutique national personal

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<v Speaker 1>injury firm dedicated to advocating for victims of abuse and

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<v Speaker 1>catastrophic injuries in high stakes litigation. We pride ourselves on

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<v Speaker 1>being innovators of law and providers of justice. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>it becomes pretty much an ad for them. Recent success

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<v Speaker 1>included participating in global settlements valued at nearly three billion dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>with over four hundred million dollars recovered on behalf of

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<v Speaker 1>survivors of sexual abuse and exploitation in the past eighteen months.

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<v Speaker 1>In addition to securing record recoveries, SGG attorneys have also

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<v Speaker 1>worked with clients who fought for and secure policy changes

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<v Speaker 1>helping protect future generations of children and adults from abuse

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<v Speaker 1>and exploitation. For example, as a part of a recent

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one point three million dollar settlement in the hotel

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<v Speaker 1>abuse case last year, one of the largest settlements in

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<v Speaker 1>the country for an individual survivor, The firm also successfully

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<v Speaker 1>secured policy and training changes for thousands of hotels, improving

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<v Speaker 1>hotel pre employment screening and safety for hotel guests at

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<v Speaker 1>employees nation and employees nationwide. Wow, so hashtag free chip

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<v Speaker 1>or schlip excuse me. I remember hearing his story and

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen some of his content. And for the record,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not every single game on Roadblocks, it's not. There

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<v Speaker 1>are some games where if there's even one, good God,

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<v Speaker 1>if anybody knows the content creator, donut operator, he showed them.

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<v Speaker 1>It is public bathroom simulator. That is the name of

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<v Speaker 1>the game where a kid playing Roadblocks would click on

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<v Speaker 1>this game. They would go into this public restroom and

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<v Speaker 1>start having conversations with other people as a way to

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<v Speaker 1>normalize having very off putting conversations in a public space.

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<v Speaker 1>This would lead to them going onto other apps and

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<v Speaker 1>other messaging platforms to try to make meetups happen. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's just one example. There are tons of examples. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know that Roadblocks has it to where you can't

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<v Speaker 1>use profane language and it exes out the comments that

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<v Speaker 1>you're trying to say that are bad words or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>There's ways around that. There's ways around that. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>predators are not dumb, well they're stupid, but they're not dumb,

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<v Speaker 1>if that makes sense. They know ways of getting around it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's only one hack away, it's only one mod away,

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<v Speaker 1>or it's one code word away. And kids are in

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<v Speaker 1>the know about a lot of these things. So I,

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<v Speaker 1>for one hope that roadblocks gets banned. I am in

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<v Speaker 1>favor of that. I don't play it, My kids don't

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<v Speaker 1>play it. It's no skin off our nose. If one

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<v Speaker 1>more avenue that predators are using to hurt children get

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<v Speaker 1>shut down, I'm in favor of this. But I guess

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see how it plays out. I am happy that

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<v Speaker 1>certain lawmakers are actually becoming aware of this and it

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<v Speaker 1>is actually going by the wayside. Hopefully we shall see.

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<v Speaker 1>Moving on to the next conversation, research suggests that doctors

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<v Speaker 1>might quickly become dependent on AI. I actually believe this

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<v Speaker 1>when full stop, to be honest with you. Artificial intelligence

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<v Speaker 1>is beginning to help doctor screen patients for several routine diseases,

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<v Speaker 1>but a new study raises concerns about whether doctors might

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<v Speaker 1>become too reliant on AI. I think they currently already are.

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<v Speaker 1>The study, looking at gastro entrologists in Poland, found that

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<v Speaker 1>they appeared to be twenty percent worse at spotting polyps

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<v Speaker 1>and other abnormalities during colonoscopies on their own after they've

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<v Speaker 1>grown accustomed to using AI assisted systems. The finding, published

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<v Speaker 1>in the Journal of Lancet gastro Intology and Hepatology, suggests

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<v Speaker 1>that even after a short period of using AI, experts

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<v Speaker 1>may become overly dependent on AI to do certain aspects

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<v Speaker 1>of their job. We were quite quite surprised, Marsne Romance

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<v Speaker 1>Romaniz Yeah Polish, names a PhD gastro enterrologists at HT

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<v Speaker 1>Medical Center in Tichi, Poland, who led the study, But

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<v Speaker 1>not everyone is convinced that the paper proves doctors are

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<v Speaker 1>losing critical skills because of AI. I think three months

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<v Speaker 1>seems like a very short period to lose a skill

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<v Speaker 1>that you took twenty six years to build up, says

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<v Speaker 1>Johan or Johann Holman, a researcher at Manchester University in

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<v Speaker 1>England who has studied human reliance on AI. A human

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<v Speaker 1>believes statistical variations in the patient data might be part

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<v Speaker 1>of the explanation for why the numbers appear to drop.

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<v Speaker 1>Factors such as average age of the patients used in

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<v Speaker 1>different sections of the study might explain variation, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>AI and medicine Let's talk about it here. Artificial intelligence

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<v Speaker 1>is becoming increasingly common for a number of routine medical scans.

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<v Speaker 1>The next time you get a scan for your eyes,

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<v Speaker 1>breast cancer, or colon disease, there's a decent chance that

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<v Speaker 1>AI may be analyzing the image. AI is spreading everywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>Romantica says. At the same time, many doctors are playing

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<v Speaker 1>catch up because learning how to use the technology wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a part of their training. But that's the thing with AI.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not hard to learn how to use. You give

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<v Speaker 1>it a command and it does it, and it learns.

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<v Speaker 1>The more you use it, the better it gets at

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<v Speaker 1>doing the job. So, okay, we've been taught from books

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<v Speaker 1>and from our teachers, he says, no one told us

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<v Speaker 1>how to use AI. Again, there's a voice spot. You

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<v Speaker 1>could push a button and just speak what you want

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<v Speaker 1>and it does it. But all right. A few years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>for clinics and Poland tried out the AI system to

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<v Speaker 1>detect polyps and other abnormalities during colonoscopies. The AI works

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<v Speaker 1>in real time analyzing video from a camera inside the colon.

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<v Speaker 1>If it spots something, it will highlight the area for

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<v Speaker 1>the clinician to see. I've actually never heard the word

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<v Speaker 1>clinician before, but okay, in this particular one, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>green box showing where the pollup might be. He says.

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<v Speaker 1>The clinics were collecting data on whether the AI system worked.

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<v Speaker 1>It turned out that it did, but when Romance Get

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<v Speaker 1>and his colleagues reanalyzed the data, they found something else.

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<v Speaker 1>After the system was introduced, doctors became significantly worse at

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<v Speaker 1>detecting possible pollups when the AI was switched off. According

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<v Speaker 1>to their analysis, after doctors got AI, detection rates of

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<v Speaker 1>possible polops fell from twenty eight point four percent to

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two point four percent, so a six percent drop

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<v Speaker 1>that's okay when their new AI system was switched off.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, the doctors seem to become quickly dependent

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<v Speaker 1>on AI systems catching the polyps. They said, they're not

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<v Speaker 1>sure why it's happening, but it's He has some theories.

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<v Speaker 1>We are subconsciously waiting for the green box to come

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<v Speaker 1>out to show us the region where the polyp is,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're not paying attention as much anymore. There's other

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<v Speaker 1>examples that support that idea. A similar study has shown

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<v Speaker 1>that non experts do a worst job scanning mammograms if

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<v Speaker 1>they know they can get an AI system to help

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<v Speaker 1>them with the push of a button. Johan Holman, who

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<v Speaker 1>helped lead that mammogram study, describes it as a safety

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<v Speaker 1>net effect. He says these latest results could be interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's skeptical. The study of kolonoscopies took place over

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<v Speaker 1>three months and the doctors participating had decades of experience.

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<v Speaker 1>He thinks statistical variations due to a number of factors

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<v Speaker 1>such as age of the patients, might be behind the

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<v Speaker 1>apparent drop. Additionally, he says, we don't know how many

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<v Speaker 1>polyps there really are, so we don't know the ground

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<v Speaker 1>of truth. But that means it's unclear how many of

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<v Speaker 1>the possible polyps the doctors supposedly missed were actually medically important.

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<v Speaker 1>The studies author, Romance sure does believe that the drop

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<v Speaker 1>is real, though he admits that studying AI in a

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<v Speaker 1>clinical setting like this can be tricky. There are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of variables the researchers couldn't control. He's not against

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<v Speaker 1>using AI. He actually thinks the little green boxes help

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<v Speaker 1>him to do a better colonoscopies, but he thinks there

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<v Speaker 1>should be more studies like these examining how AI might

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<v Speaker 1>be changing the way doctors work in the real world,

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<v Speaker 1>because look what happened, Look what's happening, He says, we

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<v Speaker 1>have AI systems that are available, but we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>the data. Wow. And you know, honestly, we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>that not too terribly long ago on the Culture Conspiracy.

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<v Speaker 1>I can envision a world right now where more and

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<v Speaker 1>more doctors are going to be trying to use AI

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<v Speaker 1>to better treat their patients. Because although you have this

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<v Speaker 1>doctor that's been in this field for forty years and

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<v Speaker 1>they've seen just about everything, AI will be able to

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<v Speaker 1>pull from all medical journals, from all patient listings that

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<v Speaker 1>have happened at that clinic and around the world to

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<v Speaker 1>give you the best possible solution at that time. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's gonna be some variations because the medical practice is

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<v Speaker 1>an unperfect science, and what works for person A might

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<v Speaker 1>not work for person B, and what works for person

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<v Speaker 1>AMB might not work for person C. So I get that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I also see AI as the thing that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be used more and more commonly in the medical space. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>I just have a healthy distrust for AI, I really do.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that it doesn't become more mainstream but boiled

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<v Speaker 1>boy by the day. It just it is. It's becoming

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<v Speaker 1>that way anyway, everybody. We have covered a wide bevy

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<v Speaker 1>of topics this evening. We covered some at home conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>we covered some international conversation. We talked about some technology.

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<v Speaker 1>I like this all the way around. Once again, for

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<v Speaker 1>anybody who would like to join the conversation next Wednesday

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<v Speaker 1>night at nine pm Central. The link is in the

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<v Speaker 1>description below. Go to Patreon and check out the Cajun Night.

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<v Speaker 14>There.

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<v Speaker 1>There's only one tier for entry. We're trying to grow

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<v Speaker 1>this organization. We're trying to grow this grouping to be

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<v Speaker 1>a more informed group, a more educated group, and a

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<v Speaker 1>more geopolitical slash religious slash technology, slash whatever else comes

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<v Speaker 1>up in conversation. Honestly, and I don't know about the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of you, but I thoroughly enjoy my Wednesday Nights.

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<v Speaker 1>Once again, everybody, thank you for joining me this evening.

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<v Speaker 1>I am the Cajun Night and as always, God bless
