WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:02.040 I had it set for a person only. You know, 2 00:00:02.080 --> 00:00:04.639 you could set those things up for motion or for people, 3 00:00:04.879 --> 00:00:06.960 so i'd set it up just for people only, so 4 00:00:07.040 --> 00:00:09.279 it wouldn't go off like it's a cat or something 5 00:00:09.320 --> 00:00:11.560 or dog ran by, you know. And I woke up 6 00:00:11.560 --> 00:00:14.119 one morning and I had a notification on my phone. 7 00:00:14.400 --> 00:00:16.760 It said person. So I clicked on it, and when 8 00:00:16.760 --> 00:00:19.600 I clicked on the video, I could really see that 9 00:00:19.800 --> 00:00:22.719 good what it was. I could see something coming around 10 00:00:22.760 --> 00:00:25.160 the corner of the house. And so I'd send it 11 00:00:25.199 --> 00:00:28.440 off to my father, who was able to get it 12 00:00:28.480 --> 00:00:30.600 cleaned up for me, and he got it back to me, 13 00:00:30.640 --> 00:00:33.479 and that's when we saw it. And it's standing right 14 00:00:33.520 --> 00:00:35.960 there in front of my bathroom window. It looks at 15 00:00:35.960 --> 00:00:38.240 the camera, it steps in the frame just for a second. 16 00:00:38.399 --> 00:00:41.359 It's long enough for us to get a good look 17 00:00:41.399 --> 00:00:43.520 at it, and then it steps right back out and 18 00:00:43.600 --> 00:01:16.079 it's gone. 19 00:01:16.920 --> 00:01:19.840 This is Bigfoot Crossroads. My name is Matt, and joining 20 00:01:19.879 --> 00:01:23.079 me is another Matt. I'd like to welcome Matt Parish 21 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:28.200 to the podcast. Matt is a researcher out of Washington. 22 00:01:28.359 --> 00:01:31.599 Is that correct correct? But you're originally from Texas? 23 00:01:31.680 --> 00:01:33.799 Huh, yes, sir, from East Texas. 24 00:01:34.239 --> 00:01:36.439 So how did you get from East Texas to the 25 00:01:36.480 --> 00:01:39.640 Pacific Northwest well sasquatch? 26 00:01:40.920 --> 00:01:42.959 You know, living in East Texas, you always hear the 27 00:01:43.640 --> 00:01:49.040 stories and you see all the documentaries and everything that 28 00:01:49.120 --> 00:01:52.319 there's not really a whole lot of activity in the 29 00:01:52.599 --> 00:01:54.159 in the area that I was in. There at least 30 00:01:54.159 --> 00:01:57.200 that I that I could see, you know, going out 31 00:01:57.519 --> 00:02:01.079 to the field. So I would, you know, start going 32 00:02:01.079 --> 00:02:04.120 out taking my family on vacation to these big foot 33 00:02:04.159 --> 00:02:08.000 hotspots to look for the best I guess you could 34 00:02:08.039 --> 00:02:13.560 say viable habitat. And the Pacific Northwest really struck a 35 00:02:13.639 --> 00:02:16.560 chord with us when we went here. You know, we 36 00:02:16.639 --> 00:02:19.120 came here and it just seems to have everything that's 37 00:02:19.120 --> 00:02:24.879 perfect for concealing a species like sasquatch. Then stood then 38 00:02:24.879 --> 00:02:28.199 we had our own experience in twenty eighteen when we 39 00:02:28.199 --> 00:02:31.120 were camping up on Lake Crescent and me and my 40 00:02:31.120 --> 00:02:35.280 wife actually heard something behind our cabin one night, and 41 00:02:35.599 --> 00:02:39.599 that's really what kind of you know, focused my attention 42 00:02:39.919 --> 00:02:41.840 on this area in the Olympics. 43 00:02:42.240 --> 00:02:45.439 So how did bigfoot originally get on your radar in 44 00:02:45.520 --> 00:02:47.599 East Texas? Was it something you heard about as a 45 00:02:47.680 --> 00:02:48.719 kid growing up or. 46 00:02:50.000 --> 00:02:52.280 Yeah, it was just something that I'd heard about growing 47 00:02:52.360 --> 00:02:55.360 up between my dad and my grandfather telling stories, and 48 00:02:55.400 --> 00:02:58.360 it was always kind of a kind of a boogeyman type, 49 00:02:58.800 --> 00:03:00.840 you know thing, you know, it was like like a 50 00:03:00.879 --> 00:03:03.159 fairy tale. I mean, it wasn't until I was in 51 00:03:03.199 --> 00:03:06.439 the first grade I actually saw a book in the 52 00:03:06.479 --> 00:03:11.360 library about myths and legends and cryptozoology. And when I 53 00:03:11.400 --> 00:03:13.240 open it up and I'm flipping through and I see 54 00:03:13.280 --> 00:03:16.360 different things, but what really grabbed my attention was that 55 00:03:16.639 --> 00:03:20.639 iconic picture of Patty walking from the Roger Patterson film. 56 00:03:21.520 --> 00:03:23.479 And when I saw that, something that just kind of 57 00:03:23.520 --> 00:03:26.800 struck a nerve and I thought, that's that looks so 58 00:03:27.039 --> 00:03:30.000 real to me that, you know, there's there's got to 59 00:03:30.039 --> 00:03:33.520 be more to this than just the you know, tells 60 00:03:33.560 --> 00:03:36.080 and the boogeyman stuff. When when I was younger, you 61 00:03:36.120 --> 00:03:39.879 didn't have Finding Bigfoot or Expedition Bigfoot. You didn't have 62 00:03:40.120 --> 00:03:42.759 all the TV shows. If you wanted to find anything 63 00:03:42.759 --> 00:03:45.199 out about Bigfoot, you had to you know, it's just 64 00:03:45.360 --> 00:03:47.800 like word of mouth, people telling stories, or you had 65 00:03:47.800 --> 00:03:50.520 to go to your local library to find something. We 66 00:03:50.599 --> 00:03:57.560 didn't have the Internet or it wasn't widely available. So yeah, 67 00:03:58.080 --> 00:03:58.879 like it is today. 68 00:03:58.960 --> 00:04:03.039 So I've got very similar roots in this. I started 69 00:04:03.080 --> 00:04:07.000 out the same way, just desperately searching for books on 70 00:04:07.039 --> 00:04:09.960 the subject, and as you well know, it was lumped 71 00:04:10.000 --> 00:04:11.680 in with a lot of other things back then. It 72 00:04:11.719 --> 00:04:13.800 didn't really have its own section or anything. It was 73 00:04:13.840 --> 00:04:17.399 just kind of shoved in books about ghosts and UFOs 74 00:04:17.399 --> 00:04:19.160 and everything else. Did you have an interest in that 75 00:04:19.240 --> 00:04:21.519 stuff as well? 76 00:04:22.199 --> 00:04:26.959 Not so much? I mean again, for me, it was 77 00:04:27.600 --> 00:04:30.079 I think you know too. If I had never seen 78 00:04:30.120 --> 00:04:34.160 that picture of Patty, it probably would not have struck 79 00:04:34.199 --> 00:04:36.879 as hard as it did. But it was it was 80 00:04:37.240 --> 00:04:41.079 being able to see that, you know, okay, there there 81 00:04:41.199 --> 00:04:44.279 is actually something flesh and blood in this picture, or 82 00:04:44.639 --> 00:04:48.720 appears to me, you know, my perception of it was 83 00:04:48.879 --> 00:04:52.519 that it was real and so that that really uh, 84 00:04:52.759 --> 00:04:54.439 you know, all the other stuff, you know, I'm kind 85 00:04:54.439 --> 00:04:57.279 of a I wanted to see it or you know, 86 00:04:57.360 --> 00:05:00.360 something like that. So those things are interesting, but the 87 00:05:00.639 --> 00:05:02.920 not what really grabbed my attention. 88 00:05:03.160 --> 00:05:06.680 Yeah, did it just like really captivate you so much? 89 00:05:06.759 --> 00:05:09.040 I mean, I just being honest, You're the first person 90 00:05:09.040 --> 00:05:12.199 I've talked to that's actually uprooted and moved to pursue 91 00:05:12.759 --> 00:05:17.240 Sasquatch and I find that really interesting, like, what was 92 00:05:17.279 --> 00:05:19.120 that decision kind of based around? 93 00:05:20.639 --> 00:05:24.439 Well, I'd worked for the Texas Department of Criminal Justice 94 00:05:24.680 --> 00:05:27.360 and for over a decade, and it was always the 95 00:05:27.800 --> 00:05:30.800 plan that, you know, we wanted to live somewhere in 96 00:05:30.839 --> 00:05:35.240 the mountains. We didn't really have a specific location, and 97 00:05:35.279 --> 00:05:39.800 then you know, we started visiting Washington State for you know, 98 00:05:39.879 --> 00:05:42.399 Lake said, I bring my family here for vacation. And 99 00:05:43.160 --> 00:05:46.000 in twenty eighteen, we were staying up on Lake Cresop 100 00:05:46.839 --> 00:05:50.519 in a cabin on the northern part of the Olympic Peninsula, 101 00:05:51.040 --> 00:05:55.120 and it was around eleven o'clock at night. I remember 102 00:05:55.199 --> 00:05:57.759 it was actually on my birthday. It was our last 103 00:05:57.839 --> 00:06:02.279 night here in the Olympics. Aid down to go to sleep, 104 00:06:02.519 --> 00:06:05.879 and my wife too. There's no air conditioning, there's no 105 00:06:05.920 --> 00:06:09.639 white noise, it's just dead silent, and we heard only 106 00:06:09.639 --> 00:06:13.079 what I can describe as like the Ohio call for 107 00:06:13.199 --> 00:06:16.800 people that are familiar with bigfoot calls, but it was 108 00:06:16.879 --> 00:06:19.839 just this real long, drawn out call from the top 109 00:06:19.839 --> 00:06:22.000 of this ridge. And I said up and I looked 110 00:06:22.000 --> 00:06:24.480 at my wife and she looked at me, and I 111 00:06:24.519 --> 00:06:26.959 was like, there's no way we're hearing this right now. 112 00:06:28.319 --> 00:06:29.160 Happy birthday. 113 00:06:30.360 --> 00:06:34.240 Yeah, and so you know, I said, we got to 114 00:06:34.279 --> 00:06:36.319 come back, you know, and I said, this is the 115 00:06:36.319 --> 00:06:39.920 place where I want to retire. Well, fast forward, twenty 116 00:06:40.040 --> 00:06:43.199 twenty one comes around and we actually had the opportunity 117 00:06:43.920 --> 00:06:46.920 to leave the you know, leave the Texas Department of 118 00:06:46.959 --> 00:06:52.360 Criminal Justice and early and so it just everything kind 119 00:06:52.399 --> 00:06:55.040 of fell into place. We had a housing lined up 120 00:06:55.040 --> 00:06:58.560 and it was just one thing after another. I said, 121 00:06:58.759 --> 00:07:02.560 it wasn't a very hard decision when the opportunity presented itself, 122 00:07:03.199 --> 00:07:05.519 and so that's what we did. And everyone thought we 123 00:07:05.519 --> 00:07:08.720 were crazy. You know, we had a fire We had 124 00:07:08.720 --> 00:07:10.800 a fire sale on all of our stuff. We were 125 00:07:10.879 --> 00:07:14.480 up here on vacation when the opportunity presented itself and 126 00:07:14.519 --> 00:07:17.160 we got back and sat down on the couch and 127 00:07:17.199 --> 00:07:18.959 look at my wife. I said, well this sucks. I said, 128 00:07:19.040 --> 00:07:21.560 you want to go back? And I said, she said 129 00:07:21.560 --> 00:07:23.720 can we? I said, well, let's make some fun calls 130 00:07:23.720 --> 00:07:27.680 and see what we can do. And you know, we 131 00:07:28.360 --> 00:07:30.240 had a fire sale on all of our property in 132 00:07:30.279 --> 00:07:32.199 about two weeks, and we packed up what we could 133 00:07:32.199 --> 00:07:35.759 in the car and moved up here. And it's been 134 00:07:35.800 --> 00:07:37.000 an adventure ever since. 135 00:07:37.439 --> 00:07:39.160 Yeah, Yeah, that's amazing. 136 00:07:39.920 --> 00:07:42.399 It all stemmed from that one night. If we hadn't 137 00:07:42.480 --> 00:07:44.720 heard what we heard, you know, that is just kind 138 00:07:44.720 --> 00:07:47.879 of you know, the solidified the deal for me, you know, 139 00:07:47.959 --> 00:07:50.000 back in twenty so. 140 00:07:50.079 --> 00:07:52.879 Now, had you already kind of tapped into like the 141 00:07:53.160 --> 00:07:55.800 online bigfoot community before you moved up there. 142 00:07:57.399 --> 00:08:00.600 Uh, not so much. I you know, I I've seen 143 00:08:00.680 --> 00:08:03.839 the groups and I kind of keep up with some 144 00:08:03.879 --> 00:08:05.800 of the news and stuff, but not not so much 145 00:08:05.879 --> 00:08:09.879 the online stuff now the social media, Yeah, not like 146 00:08:09.959 --> 00:08:10.160 I did. 147 00:08:10.360 --> 00:08:13.879 Now, So you just got up there and just went 148 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:16.040 on it on your own or. 149 00:08:16.439 --> 00:08:21.319 Well, we settled in the Quinault rainforest, and so I 150 00:08:21.399 --> 00:08:25.600 started hearing from locals, and I started hearing from people, 151 00:08:25.680 --> 00:08:27.879 you know, the sightings, and I would go out and 152 00:08:27.879 --> 00:08:29.399 I would investigate. 153 00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:32.120 Things, and I would talk to people. And what I 154 00:08:32.200 --> 00:08:37.120 found really interesting was, you know, nobody you know, from 155 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:39.759 the South to coming to here. You know, in the South, 156 00:08:39.799 --> 00:08:41.960 it's still kind of taboo. You know, people will kind 157 00:08:42.000 --> 00:08:46.159 of clown you about it, right but up here, you know, 158 00:08:46.320 --> 00:08:48.840 you open up and you say, yeah, I'm interested in bigfoot, 159 00:08:48.879 --> 00:08:51.480 you know, and then you tell people about your experience, 160 00:08:51.840 --> 00:08:53.759 you know, the experience that I had in twenty eighteen, 161 00:08:54.960 --> 00:08:56.720 and then they'll go, oh, yeah, you know, they'll listen 162 00:08:56.759 --> 00:08:58.000 to you for a minute, and then they'll go, well, 163 00:08:58.039 --> 00:08:59.919 you know, so and so over here had in it 164 00:09:00.039 --> 00:09:03.159 experience or I had an experience. And then that's how 165 00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:06.159 you uh, just word of mouth, and then people find 166 00:09:06.159 --> 00:09:08.480 out you're you know, we live in a very very 167 00:09:08.480 --> 00:09:12.679 small community, so word spreads pretty quickly that what you're into, 168 00:09:12.799 --> 00:09:15.279 and then people will start opening up and talking to 169 00:09:15.320 --> 00:09:18.759 you and telling you their stories and their experiences, and 170 00:09:18.879 --> 00:09:22.559 uh so that's that's really how it kind of all happened. 171 00:09:22.600 --> 00:09:25.440 You know. It's just kind of a hobby thing. On 172 00:09:25.480 --> 00:09:27.679 the weekends once we moved up here, you know, I 173 00:09:27.960 --> 00:09:30.519 had my regular nine to five job, and then on 174 00:09:30.559 --> 00:09:33.120 the weekends I would go out and uh talk to 175 00:09:33.159 --> 00:09:38.559 folks and look into their sightings, talk to witnesses and 176 00:09:38.600 --> 00:09:41.600 if they had something like footprints all the property. Uh. 177 00:09:42.159 --> 00:09:44.919 One thing that I found hard about the rainforest is 178 00:09:44.960 --> 00:09:47.960 that we get so much rainfall here that a lot 179 00:09:48.000 --> 00:09:49.799 of times when I would show up to look at 180 00:09:49.919 --> 00:09:52.120 a footprints or somebody would point me in the direction 181 00:09:52.159 --> 00:09:55.200 of footprints, all you could really tell was that something 182 00:09:55.360 --> 00:09:57.720 did travel through the area that you couldn't tell if 183 00:09:57.720 --> 00:10:01.759 it was a bear or a person or you know, 184 00:10:01.840 --> 00:10:05.240 a sasquatch. So that made it a little more difficult. 185 00:10:06.039 --> 00:10:12.799 But the stories and the eyewitness accounts cooberating with the evidence, 186 00:10:12.879 --> 00:10:17.000 you know it. It's it's interesting, you know. And then 187 00:10:17.039 --> 00:10:19.799 we started having our own experiences on our own property. 188 00:10:21.600 --> 00:10:24.759 Well, tell me about that, because I mean, this is 189 00:10:25.039 --> 00:10:29.320 sounding like a very faithful story. Having the opportunity to 190 00:10:29.559 --> 00:10:33.039 you know, move like that to just a dream location, 191 00:10:34.039 --> 00:10:37.799 and now you end up on property where you have activity. 192 00:10:38.960 --> 00:10:42.440 Right And we never ever anticipated, you know, I always 193 00:10:42.480 --> 00:10:45.879 thought so we live on a lake quaranat here in 194 00:10:45.919 --> 00:10:50.720 the Olympic Peninsula in the Quanault Rainforest, and all around 195 00:10:50.759 --> 00:10:54.120 the lake there's activity everywhere. So it doesn't surprise me 196 00:10:54.240 --> 00:10:58.440 now that we actually have activity occurring on our own 197 00:10:58.480 --> 00:11:05.000 property as well. So what originally when we were staying 198 00:11:05.039 --> 00:11:10.360 in our house around midnight till one o'clock in the 199 00:11:10.440 --> 00:11:13.559 morning that first year that we were here, we would 200 00:11:13.639 --> 00:11:17.000 smell something that was just like kind of a mild 201 00:11:17.159 --> 00:11:19.879 musky smell. It wasn't like a real pungent hit you 202 00:11:19.960 --> 00:11:23.159 in the face, you know, rotten eggs. I've heard that 203 00:11:23.200 --> 00:11:27.759 from some witnesses. I've also heard witnesses describe what I'm describing. 204 00:11:28.519 --> 00:11:30.960 But it was just a mild, gamey smell, you know. 205 00:11:31.240 --> 00:11:35.440 And so we thought that possibly a bear was coming 206 00:11:35.480 --> 00:11:39.320 up in the backyard, a black bear. And I went 207 00:11:39.360 --> 00:11:42.080 out and I got some floodlights and put put a 208 00:11:42.240 --> 00:11:45.080 blood light up on the back of the house because 209 00:11:45.159 --> 00:11:47.879 we didn't we don't have every conditioning up here, you know, 210 00:11:47.919 --> 00:11:50.879 you don't really need it, and that we do sleep 211 00:11:50.919 --> 00:11:54.840 with the window open in the summertime. So I thought, 212 00:11:54.840 --> 00:11:56.559 you know, if it comes close, you know, hopefully the 213 00:11:56.639 --> 00:12:02.399 light will trigger and scared away, not really knowing a 214 00:12:02.399 --> 00:12:05.360 whole lot about black bears and their behavior in this 215 00:12:05.440 --> 00:12:09.720 area like I do now, so that that would happen, 216 00:12:10.080 --> 00:12:11.879 and I would go and I would look, and there 217 00:12:11.879 --> 00:12:16.639 would be absolutely nothing there around. Like I said, between 218 00:12:16.679 --> 00:12:21.879 twelve and one is when this would occur. Fast forward 219 00:12:22.440 --> 00:12:29.200 to the following year, and we moved just next door 220 00:12:29.519 --> 00:12:32.799 into into the house next door. We were over there 221 00:12:32.799 --> 00:12:36.679 for about a week and say, and then my parents 222 00:12:36.720 --> 00:12:39.759 came up to visit, and we had just the house 223 00:12:39.840 --> 00:12:44.799 next door does had been vacant for some time, and 224 00:12:45.519 --> 00:12:49.279 it had been kind of a party house before. People 225 00:12:49.320 --> 00:12:52.879 were using it to party in there, and what it 226 00:12:53.039 --> 00:12:57.360 was actually uh employee housing for the lodge that sits 227 00:12:57.399 --> 00:12:59.919 on the lake, so they would have their little parties 228 00:13:00.080 --> 00:13:03.679 there and whatnot. Nobody was actually living in there, and 229 00:13:03.759 --> 00:13:05.360 there was a lot of damage in it. I'm be 230 00:13:05.440 --> 00:13:07.039 honest with you, if I didn't even need a house, 231 00:13:07.080 --> 00:13:10.159 I would have passed on this thing. But it sits 232 00:13:10.240 --> 00:13:12.639 right up on the tree line, and we needed the 233 00:13:12.639 --> 00:13:16.720 house because my wife had gotten pregnant again. So we 234 00:13:16.840 --> 00:13:19.360 move in there, we fix it up a little bit. 235 00:13:19.480 --> 00:13:22.120 My parents come the second week that we're in there, 236 00:13:22.840 --> 00:13:25.799 and they're staying in our bedroom. And in our bedroom, 237 00:13:26.039 --> 00:13:28.559 it's right on the The bedrooms are right on the 238 00:13:28.600 --> 00:13:33.759 tree line to the rainforest, and in that room there 239 00:13:33.879 --> 00:13:38.159 is a window unit with air conditioning. We went out 240 00:13:38.159 --> 00:13:41.039 and bought one so that a way that would be 241 00:13:41.080 --> 00:13:44.000 comfortable and my wife would be comfortable during her pregnancy. 242 00:13:44.919 --> 00:13:48.320 And then we slept at my daughter's room just next door, 243 00:13:48.840 --> 00:13:52.440 and we had the window often. And it was around 244 00:13:52.480 --> 00:13:57.639 two o'clock at night. This was in the end of June. 245 00:13:58.120 --> 00:14:01.120 It was around two o'clock at night and my wife 246 00:14:01.159 --> 00:14:03.440 wakes me up and she goes did you hear that? 247 00:14:03.919 --> 00:14:05.600 And I said, no, I didn't hear. She goes, I 248 00:14:05.600 --> 00:14:08.960 think someone's outside. I said, I sit daring nobody outside, 249 00:14:09.240 --> 00:14:11.039 and she goes, well, something's outside. I said, there's a 250 00:14:11.080 --> 00:14:17.799 whole rainforest full of stuff outside, and she goes, she goes, no, no. 251 00:14:17.879 --> 00:14:20.639 So I go to lay back down, and I'm kind 252 00:14:20.639 --> 00:14:23.279 of a little little grauchy, you know. But as I'm 253 00:14:23.360 --> 00:14:26.960 laying back down, I heard what sounded like a clear, 254 00:14:27.399 --> 00:14:31.879 distinct whistle, and that caught my attention, because this is 255 00:14:31.919 --> 00:14:33.639 two in the morning. Was it was almost kind of 256 00:14:33.679 --> 00:14:37.000 like a the way a construction worker whistles, but not 257 00:14:37.120 --> 00:14:43.960 as high pitch, if that makes sense. So they caught 258 00:14:43.960 --> 00:14:48.799 my attention. And now I'm awake, wide awake, and I'm like, okay, 259 00:14:48.840 --> 00:14:50.519 there's something out there. And then I could hear what 260 00:14:50.679 --> 00:14:55.120 sounded like a person walking away from the house. And 261 00:14:56.159 --> 00:14:58.320 I laid there for about another forty five minutes and 262 00:14:58.360 --> 00:15:00.720 I didn't hear anything. Then I'm not to back off 263 00:15:00.720 --> 00:15:04.720 to sleep, and so the next morning I get up 264 00:15:04.720 --> 00:15:07.320 and I go outside of my my parents. My dad, 265 00:15:07.320 --> 00:15:09.799 who's actually the chief police back home. He's been law 266 00:15:09.840 --> 00:15:14.559 enforcement for thirty seven years. I've never really seen anything 267 00:15:14.600 --> 00:15:17.919 bother this. You know, he's he's pretty solid, but when 268 00:15:17.960 --> 00:15:21.399 it comes to his family, so you know, he things 269 00:15:21.840 --> 00:15:23.120 can rattle him sometimes. 270 00:15:23.320 --> 00:15:24.240 Yeah, And I'm not. 271 00:15:24.159 --> 00:15:26.519 Saying he was rattled, but I could. I could tell 272 00:15:26.519 --> 00:15:28.879 there was a difference about his presence. When I went 273 00:15:28.919 --> 00:15:32.919 onto the porch. He was something had happened and something 274 00:15:33.000 --> 00:15:35.440 was different. And I asked him, I said, how did 275 00:15:35.519 --> 00:15:37.879 y'all sleep last night? And he said, well. She said, 276 00:15:37.919 --> 00:15:42.200 let's let's talk about that son, and he said, how 277 00:15:42.360 --> 00:15:44.120 is how is your night? First? And I said, well, 278 00:15:44.200 --> 00:15:46.720 I said, you know, kay Lee's my wife. I said, 279 00:15:46.759 --> 00:15:49.720 she woke me up and she says she heard banging 280 00:15:49.840 --> 00:15:52.720 or something, and I said, and then I told him 281 00:15:52.759 --> 00:15:55.320 the story and he goes, yeah, yeah. He said around 282 00:15:55.320 --> 00:15:57.559 what time was that? I said, you know, I told 283 00:15:57.639 --> 00:15:59.519 him it's about two o'clock in the morning. He said, 284 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:01.960 he looks over at my step mom. He says, all right. 285 00:16:02.000 --> 00:16:06.320 He said that was the same time that we experienced something. 286 00:16:07.720 --> 00:16:10.080 And I asked him, I said, what did you experience 287 00:16:10.279 --> 00:16:13.320 and he said, well, he said, something came up to 288 00:16:13.759 --> 00:16:16.559 the side of the house there where your window unit 289 00:16:16.679 --> 00:16:21.039 is and started banging on it aggressively. And the window 290 00:16:21.120 --> 00:16:24.120 unit's about six and a half seven foot off the ground, 291 00:16:25.399 --> 00:16:28.120 and so I said, bang, he said yeah, he said 292 00:16:28.120 --> 00:16:31.639 it was just like a real hard core aggressive something 293 00:16:31.720 --> 00:16:36.559 hard was tapping on the window unit. And so I 294 00:16:37.039 --> 00:16:38.759 asked him, I said, did you have you been over 295 00:16:38.799 --> 00:16:40.159 to the side of the house yet? He said no, 296 00:16:40.200 --> 00:16:41.919 he said, we just came out here, you know, you 297 00:16:42.080 --> 00:16:44.279 just said, well, let's go over there, let's check it out. 298 00:16:44.320 --> 00:16:46.279 And as we walked over to the side of the house, 299 00:16:46.919 --> 00:16:51.159 we noticed that there was these seventeen inch tracks coming 300 00:16:51.200 --> 00:16:56.879 from the road, about three three and a half feet apart, 301 00:16:57.440 --> 00:17:00.240 roughly one in front of the other, and they came 302 00:17:00.240 --> 00:17:02.759 from the road and they came right up along the 303 00:17:02.759 --> 00:17:04.200 side of the house. And when we got up to 304 00:17:04.200 --> 00:17:07.440 where the window unit was, there was actually a rock 305 00:17:07.519 --> 00:17:09.759 that was about a half dollar size sitting on top 306 00:17:09.799 --> 00:17:13.480 of the window unit. Still something had picked a rock 307 00:17:13.599 --> 00:17:17.559 up off the ground and was deeping on it. And 308 00:17:17.640 --> 00:17:21.359 so that really was my first realization, was like, you 309 00:17:21.400 --> 00:17:24.680 know what I've you know, this whole time, we've had 310 00:17:25.000 --> 00:17:27.200 stuff kind of happened around the house. But I always 311 00:17:27.200 --> 00:17:30.880 thought it was like local wildlife, you know, Yeah, that 312 00:17:31.119 --> 00:17:34.960 rut there was the first realization that we're not dealing 313 00:17:34.960 --> 00:17:38.960 with a bear. Yeah, and then I thought, well, you know, 314 00:17:39.079 --> 00:17:42.440 it kind of makes sense because it's happening with the neighbors, 315 00:17:42.480 --> 00:17:45.200 and it's happening around the lake, why wouldn't it happen 316 00:17:45.200 --> 00:17:49.759 there at the house too. So that was really the 317 00:17:49.799 --> 00:17:51.880 first realization of what we were dealing with. 318 00:17:53.000 --> 00:17:56.559 So was the activity at that house fairly consistent. 319 00:17:58.640 --> 00:18:02.000 It's off and on that that I can tell you 320 00:18:02.079 --> 00:18:04.440 the end of June, the beginning of July seems to 321 00:18:04.480 --> 00:18:09.000 be uh active for us, and then in October and 322 00:18:09.039 --> 00:18:12.480 November seems to be pretty active. We get more vocals 323 00:18:12.680 --> 00:18:16.880 in October and November, and then it's just kind of 324 00:18:18.319 --> 00:18:22.440 sporadic throughout the year. Random. Uh. What I think is 325 00:18:22.480 --> 00:18:25.160 occurring is we we live near the mouth of a river, 326 00:18:26.279 --> 00:18:29.279 and I don't think they're visiting my house per se, 327 00:18:29.640 --> 00:18:32.039 but I think that it sits on a travel route, 328 00:18:32.319 --> 00:18:35.200 because when you follow the eyewitnesses that I talked to, 329 00:18:36.240 --> 00:18:39.160 you can actually start to see a pattern develop and 330 00:18:39.200 --> 00:18:41.279 I think I think that they're just passing through the 331 00:18:41.359 --> 00:18:44.880 property going down to the river during the salmon runs. 332 00:18:46.000 --> 00:18:49.000 But basically I think that's what they're what they're doing 333 00:18:49.079 --> 00:18:52.880 or whenever, the uh, freshwater clams because side of the 334 00:18:52.920 --> 00:18:54.799 lake that we live on, there's a lot on the 335 00:18:54.880 --> 00:18:58.000 on the beach there's a lot of freshwater clams there. 336 00:18:58.039 --> 00:19:02.440 So I think that that's what's occurring. And I think 337 00:19:02.440 --> 00:19:05.000 that as they're passing through sometimes they get curious and 338 00:19:05.039 --> 00:19:09.039 they stop. Because my house is the only one with children. 339 00:19:09.200 --> 00:19:12.160 I have two little girls, and then my wife. And 340 00:19:12.200 --> 00:19:15.799 then the person to my left is on the dead 341 00:19:15.880 --> 00:19:20.480 end I live on the dead end street. She's a widow. 342 00:19:20.799 --> 00:19:23.920 And then the person to my right is her mother. Uh, 343 00:19:24.119 --> 00:19:28.359 she was in her eighties, so there's really nobody, nobody 344 00:19:28.359 --> 00:19:31.759 else around and and I think we're just like you said, 345 00:19:31.759 --> 00:19:34.400 on their route, And I think occasionally they get kind 346 00:19:34.440 --> 00:19:38.079 of curious and are maybe you know, we're like entertainment. 347 00:19:38.160 --> 00:19:42.720 I guess what do you think their curiosity towards children 348 00:19:42.799 --> 00:19:43.759 is all about. 349 00:19:44.680 --> 00:19:46.880 I've thought about that long and hard. I think maybe 350 00:19:49.160 --> 00:19:52.720 just kind of an innocence about children. I guess maybe 351 00:19:54.119 --> 00:19:58.680 they're not as threatening. They're you know, they're smaller, especially 352 00:19:59.200 --> 00:20:01.880 u little girls. You know, they have the high pitched, 353 00:20:01.920 --> 00:20:06.759 squeaky voices. My daughter, she shortly after that incident happened 354 00:20:06.759 --> 00:20:12.119 at our house that she had an experience, and well, 355 00:20:12.160 --> 00:20:14.440 we both did at the same time. I actually came 356 00:20:14.480 --> 00:20:17.119 out of my bedroom. This was at ten o'clock at night, 357 00:20:17.200 --> 00:20:19.720 and I went to the kitchen to get a drink 358 00:20:19.759 --> 00:20:22.880 of water, and you know, we normally typically lay down 359 00:20:23.000 --> 00:20:26.680 ground nine thirty, ten o'clock, and she's in her room 360 00:20:27.599 --> 00:20:30.920 and so I'm getting I told you, we just moved 361 00:20:30.920 --> 00:20:33.160 into this house and it was a party house. And 362 00:20:33.160 --> 00:20:36.160 one of the things that they damaged was the kitchen window, 363 00:20:36.680 --> 00:20:39.160 and we so the kitchen window had to be replaced. 364 00:20:39.200 --> 00:20:41.319 It was busted out, and I had taken a piece 365 00:20:41.359 --> 00:20:44.640 of cardboard and placed up over the window until we 366 00:20:44.640 --> 00:20:48.240 could get the new window in. Because it was a 367 00:20:48.559 --> 00:20:51.480 size that it was, you couldn't just go pick it 368 00:20:51.559 --> 00:20:54.240 up at home depot. It had to be ordered, special ordered. 369 00:20:55.599 --> 00:20:57.720 So we were waiting on that. But as I was 370 00:20:57.720 --> 00:21:01.000 in the kitchen getting my drink of water, that cardboards 371 00:21:01.000 --> 00:21:05.559 started to flex inward towards me. And I had it taped, 372 00:21:05.640 --> 00:21:10.200 and I could hear the adhesive from the tape, you know, pulling, 373 00:21:10.279 --> 00:21:13.759 you know, crinkling, as whatever was on the other side 374 00:21:13.880 --> 00:21:16.240 was just it wasn't like real aggressive. It was just 375 00:21:16.359 --> 00:21:20.839 more like curiosity. And so I'm still not thinking Bigfoot, 376 00:21:20.839 --> 00:21:24.559 even though we had the activity, you know, the week before. 377 00:21:26.039 --> 00:21:28.039 I'm thinking bear again, you know, because we got a 378 00:21:28.039 --> 00:21:32.799 lot of bears out there. And so I'm watching this 379 00:21:32.920 --> 00:21:34.640 happen and I'm thinking, how quick can I get to 380 00:21:34.680 --> 00:21:37.519 my gun if this thing tries to come in the house. 381 00:21:38.440 --> 00:21:41.039 And around that time, my daughter comes running out of 382 00:21:41.039 --> 00:21:42.599 her room and she goes, I know you're trying to 383 00:21:42.599 --> 00:21:46.119 sneak on me. And I said what. She's seven years 384 00:21:46.160 --> 00:21:49.279 old at the time, and I said what And she said, yeah, 385 00:21:49.319 --> 00:21:52.319 you were trying to sneak on me. And I said, 386 00:21:52.359 --> 00:21:54.559 what are you talking about? And she said you you 387 00:21:54.599 --> 00:21:57.279 were outside my bedroom window, trying to sound like a 388 00:21:57.599 --> 00:22:02.519 like a zombie, doing some type of weird foreign language. 389 00:22:03.279 --> 00:22:05.880 Oh wow, yeah, like a. 390 00:22:06.000 --> 00:22:08.839 And I said I said no, I said, I'm right here. 391 00:22:08.880 --> 00:22:12.039 I'm in them. I said, I'm in my boxers, a 392 00:22:12.160 --> 00:22:15.880 drink of water. I'm not outside the house. And then 393 00:22:15.680 --> 00:22:19.359 then the realization I seen it hit her and she 394 00:22:19.519 --> 00:22:24.160 realized that I was telling her the truth. And I said, what, 395 00:22:24.160 --> 00:22:26.119 what did it sound like? She said, well, she said 396 00:22:26.119 --> 00:22:29.000 it sounded kind of, you know, like like Chinese talk, 397 00:22:29.640 --> 00:22:32.839 she said, But she said like a zombie. It was 398 00:22:33.039 --> 00:22:37.799 just gurgled and raspy kind of And that's when I 399 00:22:37.839 --> 00:22:39.680 realized that there had to be two of these things. 400 00:22:39.720 --> 00:22:41.680 One was talking to her at the same time, while 401 00:22:41.799 --> 00:22:45.480