WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.879 This is Dan Caples and welcome to today's online podcast edition 2 00:00:03.960 --> 00:00:05.879 of The Dan Caplas Show. Please be sure to give 3 00:00:05.960 --> 00:00:08.240 us a five star rating if you'd be so kind, 4 00:00:08.320 --> 00:00:11.599 and to subscribe, download and listen to the show every 5 00:00:11.679 --> 00:00:14.400 single day on your favorite podcast platform. 6 00:00:15.119 --> 00:00:17.839 First guest today truly a national treasure. 7 00:00:17.960 --> 00:00:21.519 His name is Andy McCarthy and he's a senior fellow 8 00:00:21.559 --> 00:00:25.440 at the National Review and also author A Ball of Colusion, 9 00:00:25.440 --> 00:00:28.719 the Plot to rig an election and destroy a Presidency, 10 00:00:28.960 --> 00:00:33.240 also The McCarthy Report. I've got two main go to podcasts. 11 00:00:33.240 --> 00:00:36.320 One is his father, Mike Schmidtz. The other is The McCarthy Report. 12 00:00:36.399 --> 00:00:40.240 They just dropped their three hundredth episode, this one titled 13 00:00:40.240 --> 00:00:43.159 a Quick Trip to Saudi Arabia. Andy, thanks for making 14 00:00:43.159 --> 00:00:45.240 the quick trip over here. Welcome back to the Dan 15 00:00:45.280 --> 00:00:46.000 Caplis Show. 16 00:00:46.960 --> 00:00:48.000 Fang, great to be with you. 17 00:00:48.240 --> 00:00:49.960 Well, thank you, my friend. I wanted to get your 18 00:00:50.079 --> 00:00:54.119 take on the plane, the plane and listen. I think 19 00:00:54.159 --> 00:00:57.359 Donald Trump has done some historically great stuff, including in 20 00:00:57.399 --> 00:01:00.280 the last forty eight hours. But I wonder what there's 21 00:01:00.359 --> 00:01:03.079 really serious about the plane, because I think there are 22 00:01:03.240 --> 00:01:05.640 so many different problems with it. But you wrote to 23 00:01:05.680 --> 00:01:08.040 it so please, if you would take the floor and 24 00:01:08.120 --> 00:01:09.159 give everybody. 25 00:01:08.799 --> 00:01:12.239 Your take, well, I take the plane of disgrace. 26 00:01:13.799 --> 00:01:19.280 Even if I wasn't concerned about the jihadist regime in Kutter, 27 00:01:20.480 --> 00:01:26.719 which is a historic backer of Sunni jihadist organizations from 28 00:01:27.000 --> 00:01:31.760 al Qaeda through Amas and a. 29 00:01:31.239 --> 00:01:32.760 Use full ally to. 30 00:01:32.760 --> 00:01:36.760 The Iranians, even if that weren't the case, I'm sort 31 00:01:36.799 --> 00:01:39.120 of offended as an American at the thought that we, 32 00:01:40.319 --> 00:01:45.560 the United States government, which has the most powerful air 33 00:01:45.599 --> 00:01:49.400 force and armed forces in the history of the world, 34 00:01:50.120 --> 00:01:53.560 needs to accept a plane to fly our chief executive 35 00:01:53.599 --> 00:01:58.959 around from another country, even if it was a friendly country. 36 00:01:59.000 --> 00:02:01.799 I think I I'd have. 37 00:02:02.599 --> 00:02:03.680 Great qualms over it. 38 00:02:03.760 --> 00:02:08.280 But under these circumstances, it's just it's inexplicable, and just 39 00:02:08.319 --> 00:02:12.800 as a legal matter, it's not only a clear violation 40 00:02:13.840 --> 00:02:17.919 to my mind, of the Themolument's clause of the Constitution, 41 00:02:18.120 --> 00:02:23.520 which forbids officials and offices of high public trust to 42 00:02:23.680 --> 00:02:32.319 accept gifts from foreign sovereigns and foreign powers. Depending on 43 00:02:32.400 --> 00:02:36.960 how you look at the details, bribery, which this I 44 00:02:36.960 --> 00:02:41.080 think gets close to, is a predictive for a separate 45 00:02:41.120 --> 00:02:44.680 predicive from high crimes. In this demeanors, as you know, 46 00:02:44.680 --> 00:02:48.599 from impeachment under the Constitution. So why the president. 47 00:02:48.199 --> 00:02:50.719 Would even dabble in this, I don't know. 48 00:02:51.280 --> 00:02:54.039 Well, and Andy, before I get to that bigger question, 49 00:02:54.680 --> 00:02:57.960 so do those laws still apply if it's a gift 50 00:02:58.000 --> 00:02:59.879 to the nation rather than the individual. 51 00:03:01.759 --> 00:03:09.960 No, the Emolument's clause is clearly applicable to officeholders, not 52 00:03:10.960 --> 00:03:14.759 the general public. For example, the French gifted us with 53 00:03:14.879 --> 00:03:18.439 the Statue of Liberty, I believe in eighteen seventy seven. 54 00:03:19.800 --> 00:03:21.199 The interesting thing about. 55 00:03:20.960 --> 00:03:27.599 That, though, dan is the more something legitimately is a 56 00:03:28.039 --> 00:03:32.039 gift to the public, you know, to the American public 57 00:03:32.159 --> 00:03:35.280 or to the United States government, the less reason there 58 00:03:35.319 --> 00:03:38.039 would be for a president not to submit it to Congress, 59 00:03:38.479 --> 00:03:43.479 because if you submit to Congress that we want to 60 00:03:43.599 --> 00:03:48.400 accept this gift, Congress can approve it even under the 61 00:03:48.400 --> 00:03:51.280 emolument's clause. So a president can accept the gift, even 62 00:03:51.319 --> 00:03:54.479 to the president, if Congress approves it. 63 00:03:55.039 --> 00:03:58.280 And you know, the Statue of. 64 00:03:58.319 --> 00:04:02.360 Liberty, which was obviously not a gift to the president 65 00:04:02.439 --> 00:04:02.680 at the. 66 00:04:02.680 --> 00:04:05.639 Time, it was a gift to the public. It was 67 00:04:05.680 --> 00:04:10.080 nevertheless proposed to Congress. Congress was asked to. 68 00:04:10.560 --> 00:04:14.280 Pass on it and accept it. So I just think that. 69 00:04:15.919 --> 00:04:21.720 It's obvious from the terms of this arrangement, which you know, 70 00:04:21.800 --> 00:04:24.959 we have circumstances where the President is upset that Boeing 71 00:04:25.000 --> 00:04:27.120 hasn't delivered. 72 00:04:26.959 --> 00:04:30.759 On the new air Force one. Apparently the one that 73 00:04:31.279 --> 00:04:36.360 is currently in use is not sufficiently. I don't know 74 00:04:36.680 --> 00:04:40.600 what standards it is, is opulence or luxury or usefulness, 75 00:04:40.600 --> 00:04:43.199 whatever it is, but Trump is unhappy. 76 00:04:43.519 --> 00:04:49.279 I'd be pretty happy with air Force, I tell you, but. 77 00:04:48.439 --> 00:04:50.079 You know I don't run in his circle. 78 00:04:50.199 --> 00:04:53.319 So he's unhappy whether he thinks it needs an upgrade, 79 00:04:53.360 --> 00:04:56.319 he's annoy that Boeing won't have it until close to 80 00:04:56.360 --> 00:04:59.000 the end of his term, and they were already late, 81 00:04:59.079 --> 00:05:02.399 so who knows whether it'll whether. 82 00:05:01.360 --> 00:05:02.319 They'll produce it or not. 83 00:05:02.959 --> 00:05:03.879 So he's in a hurry. 84 00:05:03.879 --> 00:05:05.480 And I know if he's doing this to light a 85 00:05:05.519 --> 00:05:08.000 fire and demoing, maybe I would. 86 00:05:07.839 --> 00:05:10.600 Feel better if I thought that was what he was doing. Well, 87 00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:14.560 But you know, I just think the fact we as 88 00:05:14.600 --> 00:05:17.560 we know them, where he toured the plane when it 89 00:05:17.600 --> 00:05:19.720 was parked in Palm Beach to see if it would 90 00:05:19.759 --> 00:05:23.959 be acceptable to him. 91 00:05:23.000 --> 00:05:25.480 And the arrangement is supposed to be that it's for 92 00:05:25.519 --> 00:05:28.720 his use as Air Force one, and then when he 93 00:05:28.839 --> 00:05:31.879 leaves the presidency it would be it would be transferred 94 00:05:32.279 --> 00:05:36.959 to the Trump Presidential Library, probably not before he gets 95 00:05:36.959 --> 00:05:38.439 a couple of years that you said. 96 00:05:38.240 --> 00:05:42.079 Of it, Andy McCarthy, our special guest McCarthy Report, a 97 00:05:42.120 --> 00:05:46.920 podcast everybody should download now, Andy, I think Trump has 98 00:05:46.959 --> 00:05:51.199 done so many smart things that I've got to believe 99 00:05:51.240 --> 00:05:53.360 there's some bigger play here, right, because there are so 100 00:05:53.360 --> 00:05:56.519 many obvious reasons why this would be a huge mistake. 101 00:05:57.879 --> 00:06:00.439 And so I'm just wondering if the endgame is pressure 102 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:02.839 on Boeing or something else. But at the end of 103 00:06:02.879 --> 00:06:05.839 the day, if we were betting the biggest best stake 104 00:06:05.879 --> 00:06:08.879 in Colorado, do you bet that he goes through with this? 105 00:06:09.720 --> 00:06:13.240 Because I don't think he will. Oh, I think he will. 106 00:06:13.839 --> 00:06:16.000 Yeah, I think he will. I don't. I'm not as 107 00:06:17.519 --> 00:06:20.199 I'm not as confident Dan, I think as you seem 108 00:06:20.240 --> 00:06:24.120 to be that he's always got a master plan. I'm 109 00:06:24.160 --> 00:06:27.439 not saying you said that characterize what you said, but 110 00:06:27.839 --> 00:06:28.759 I don't. 111 00:06:28.920 --> 00:06:31.279 Think he's always got a master plan. I think he 112 00:06:31.360 --> 00:06:34.319 shoots from the head an awful lot. And I also 113 00:06:34.360 --> 00:06:39.680 think the more he gets criticized about something, the less 114 00:06:39.720 --> 00:06:43.639 willing he is to come down from it, because that's 115 00:06:43.680 --> 00:06:46.759 like an admission, yeah, that he was wrong, which is 116 00:06:46.800 --> 00:06:47.360 not a thing. 117 00:06:47.720 --> 00:06:50.639 Yeah wow, Well this will be fascinating to watch. But 118 00:06:51.199 --> 00:06:54.879 at the end of the day, legally, your thought is 119 00:06:54.879 --> 00:06:57.040 that if he goes ahead and he accepts the plane 120 00:06:57.120 --> 00:06:59.680 and the conditions are that it goes to his library 121 00:06:59.720 --> 00:07:00.639 after words, etc. 122 00:07:01.480 --> 00:07:03.720 You do think that would be a legal violation. 123 00:07:05.199 --> 00:07:07.839 Well, I do, but I don't think anybody can do 124 00:07:07.920 --> 00:07:11.920 anything about it except for Congress, and Congress has. 125 00:07:11.759 --> 00:07:14.480 No intention to do anything about it. 126 00:07:14.560 --> 00:07:16.000 I think part of what's made. 127 00:07:17.319 --> 00:07:19.360 Trump a little bit more reckless than he might. 128 00:07:19.240 --> 00:07:24.639 Otherwise see is the conflict of interest rules don't apply 129 00:07:24.800 --> 00:07:27.079 to the president in the sense that they're not enforceable 130 00:07:27.120 --> 00:07:29.879 against the president, and the Supreme Court has said that 131 00:07:29.959 --> 00:07:33.600 anything the president does within the official duties of the 132 00:07:33.680 --> 00:07:37.839 executive branch is at least presumptively immune from prosecution. 133 00:07:38.519 --> 00:07:40.879 And what they're trying to say there is that in 134 00:07:40.879 --> 00:07:41.879 this system. 135 00:07:41.560 --> 00:07:46.560 The checks on executive excess belong to Congress, not to 136 00:07:46.920 --> 00:07:53.560 prosecutors or courts. But Congress doesn't seem interested. 137 00:07:53.160 --> 00:07:54.839 In doing much in the way of oversight. 138 00:07:54.879 --> 00:07:58.360 I think that'll change if the Democrats take Congress in 139 00:07:58.399 --> 00:07:59.120 the midterms. 140 00:08:00.160 --> 00:08:01.279 As I said, I wrote a. 141 00:08:01.199 --> 00:08:04.759 Book about this about a decade ago called Faithless. 142 00:08:04.360 --> 00:08:06.240 Execution for a little more than that now. 143 00:08:07.639 --> 00:08:11.240 And basically, if Congress won't check the president, then the 144 00:08:11.240 --> 00:08:14.480 only limit on the president's power. 145 00:08:14.720 --> 00:08:17.920 Is what he thinks he can get away with politically, and. 146 00:08:17.879 --> 00:08:19.920 That's a lot of running room. 147 00:08:19.959 --> 00:08:20.319 Wow. 148 00:08:21.360 --> 00:08:23.439 Well, and he's so grateful for the time, and I'm 149 00:08:23.480 --> 00:08:27.079 really grateful for your work overall. This McCarthy Report podcast 150 00:08:27.279 --> 00:08:30.319 has just been fantastic and I learned so. 151 00:08:30.319 --> 00:08:30.759 Much on it. 152 00:08:30.800 --> 00:08:33.480 I do hope everybody downloads it and look forward to 153 00:08:33.480 --> 00:08:34.120 the next visit. 154 00:08:35.080 --> 00:08:36.080 I really appreciate it. 155 00:08:36.120 --> 00:08:38.159 Thank you, Dan, Thank you my friend Andy McCarthy. I 156 00:08:38.200 --> 00:08:39.519 mean it. He is a national treasurer. 157 00:08:39.559 --> 00:08:42.840 Obviously we don't always agree on everything, but he's a 158 00:08:42.840 --> 00:08:46.799 brilliant guy, intellectually, fearless, he follows the facts in the 159 00:08:46.879 --> 00:08:50.919 law as he sees them. Also very accessible. So yeah, 160 00:08:51.000 --> 00:08:54.000 I'm glad he's out there. And seriously, do you download 161 00:08:54.000 --> 00:08:55.200 this McCarthy Report. 162 00:08:55.039 --> 00:08:55.440 Ryan, Oh? 163 00:08:55.519 --> 00:08:58.759 I value Andy McCarthy's analysis highly. I'm always tuned in, 164 00:08:58.919 --> 00:09:01.639 especially when he's on Fox News, And like you said, 165 00:09:01.720 --> 00:09:05.000 he might present a side of an issue that I 166 00:09:05.000 --> 00:09:08.519 hadn't thought about. One or two might disagree with, but 167 00:09:08.759 --> 00:09:11.159 it's always well reasoned and definitely well documented. 168 00:09:11.279 --> 00:09:11.759 And that's why. 169 00:09:11.879 --> 00:09:14.879 And especially if we happen to disagree on something, I 170 00:09:14.919 --> 00:09:17.799 love say listening to him go through it on the podcast, 171 00:09:17.840 --> 00:09:20.759 because then I can test, you know, my point of view, 172 00:09:21.200 --> 00:09:24.440 and if I'm right in the end, is I believe 173 00:09:24.440 --> 00:09:27.000 I usually am that I'm better prepared to address the 174 00:09:27.000 --> 00:09:28.200 best arguments. 175 00:09:27.759 --> 00:09:28.519 On the other side. 176 00:09:28.600 --> 00:09:30.919 But all I'm saying is the guy is very very 177 00:09:30.960 --> 00:09:34.919 often right in this McCarthy report. Because it's long formed. 178 00:09:34.960 --> 00:09:37.440 They're usually about an hour an hour ten. You know, 179 00:09:37.519 --> 00:09:40.600 you can really become very quickly the smartest gal in 180 00:09:40.639 --> 00:09:43.279 the room, the smartest guy in the room on that subject, 181 00:09:43.399 --> 00:09:44.360 or very close to it. 182 00:09:44.440 --> 00:09:46.000 So strongly recommend it. 183 00:09:46.120 --> 00:09:49.320 Hey, we were talking, I think just yesterday about is 184 00:09:49.360 --> 00:09:51.840 the left in Colorado going to do something that is 185 00:09:51.879 --> 00:09:56.279 obviously so far over the line, so obscene, so just 186 00:09:56.360 --> 00:09:58.240 wrong on its face in every way that it can 187 00:09:58.240 --> 00:10:01.080 cut through the noise and be a tipping point in 188 00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:05.159 Colorado for people to finally start electing Republicans stay wide. Well, 189 00:10:06.120 --> 00:10:10.159 arguably they've already done that, but they just did it again. 190 00:10:10.279 --> 00:10:11.720 You're on the Dan Capla Show. 191 00:10:18.679 --> 00:10:21.039 And now back to the Dan Tapla Show podcast. 192 00:10:22.440 --> 00:10:24.600 If they were to go and arrest these members, or 193 00:10:24.600 --> 00:10:26.360 if they would try to sanction them through a house 194 00:10:26.399 --> 00:10:28.480 for find out, what would you do? 195 00:10:28.639 --> 00:10:31.000 I mean find out recourse? I mean it does not 196 00:10:31.080 --> 00:10:35.200 bro say find out definitely. I love this a team, Jeffries. 197 00:10:35.279 --> 00:10:38.320 Now the gift that keeps on giving, right, I mean, 198 00:10:38.360 --> 00:10:40.879 this is what we've been talking about since over a 199 00:10:40.960 --> 00:10:43.440 year ago, which is, yeah, we needed Trump to win, 200 00:10:44.000 --> 00:10:46.600 and we need the left to expose itself and we 201 00:10:46.679 --> 00:10:50.000 need the left to lose its mind openly and publicly. 202 00:10:50.080 --> 00:10:51.960 And it's doing that. It's hard to even. 203 00:10:51.840 --> 00:10:54.519 Keep up with how often and how many places it's 204 00:10:54.559 --> 00:10:58.559 doing that. But now it's it's yeah, now it's it's 205 00:10:58.559 --> 00:11:03.480 defending Democrat House members who want to storm and ice 206 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:08.440 facility in New Jersey that houses largely MS thirteen and 207 00:11:08.480 --> 00:11:09.480 other gang members. 208 00:11:09.919 --> 00:11:12.360 I please have that, but you got to start throwing 209 00:11:12.399 --> 00:11:13.200 these people in jail. 210 00:11:13.480 --> 00:11:17.320 I mean, you cannot have these two standards of justice. 211 00:11:17.440 --> 00:11:19.879 I don't care if somebody is a congressman, I don't 212 00:11:19.919 --> 00:11:22.720 care who they are. If they're going to violate the law, 213 00:11:23.120 --> 00:11:25.279 and they're going to trespass into a facility they don't 214 00:11:25.320 --> 00:11:26.799 have a legal right to be in, and they're going 215 00:11:26.840 --> 00:11:29.320 to start pushing ice agents around. You gotta put the 216 00:11:29.399 --> 00:11:32.120 cuffs on them. And Ryan, aren't you a little surprised 217 00:11:32.200 --> 00:11:33.639 we haven't seen that arrest already. 218 00:11:34.000 --> 00:11:36.519 I'm surprised that Democrats don't want that visual. 219 00:11:36.559 --> 00:11:38.559 I think it plays well to their hard left base. 220 00:11:39.120 --> 00:11:41.200 It would paint them as the victim, which they love 221 00:11:41.279 --> 00:11:44.080 to do, and it would paint the Trump administration as 222 00:11:44.120 --> 00:11:48.200 these hardline fascists they're looking to arrest Congress people. I 223 00:11:48.200 --> 00:11:51.279 think it's a political ploy and a play by them, 224 00:11:51.320 --> 00:11:53.519 and a keing. Jeffery's playing the fake tough guy, just 225 00:11:53.559 --> 00:11:54.559 as the icing on the cake. 226 00:11:55.200 --> 00:12:00.279 Yeah, but I think it's suicidal politically, right if you're 227 00:12:00.320 --> 00:12:03.039 talking if you're talking about your little bitty base there, right, yeah, 228 00:12:03.039 --> 00:12:04.320 but if you're talking about. 229 00:12:04.080 --> 00:12:06.600 The people you need to win elections exactly right. Yeah. 230 00:12:06.720 --> 00:12:09.639 Now here is one of the really fun problems the 231 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:13.240 Democrats have right now. Is there little bitty base that's 232 00:12:13.320 --> 00:12:16.519 way out of touch with most of America, including many Democrats. 233 00:12:17.039 --> 00:12:21.399 Also happens to house some of their biggest donors. Right, 234 00:12:21.480 --> 00:12:24.399 So you got people like Diamond, Mike Johnston and all 235 00:12:24.480 --> 00:12:28.559 these other Democrats running around saying and doing these looney, 236 00:12:28.639 --> 00:12:31.399 looney things, the way out of step with America in 237 00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:36.919 Colorado because a disproportionate number of the big money donors 238 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:42.000 are on that truly looney radical secular far left three 239 00:12:42.000 --> 00:12:44.159 at three eighty someone three eight two five, five of 240 00:12:44.200 --> 00:12:45.039 the number. 241 00:12:44.799 --> 00:12:47.360 Techs d an five seven seven three nine. 242 00:12:47.480 --> 00:12:50.519 Hey, speaking of that stuff, you know how we've been 243 00:12:50.519 --> 00:12:53.320 talking about, Okay, is there anything the left can do 244 00:12:53.879 --> 00:12:56.039 that will cause a real tipping point in Colorado and 245 00:12:56.080 --> 00:12:59.279 cause people to start electing Republicans statewide? I do think 246 00:12:59.320 --> 00:13:02.080 there's a form, and I do think they've done some 247 00:13:02.159 --> 00:13:05.759 of those things already, right. I Mean, we had Representative 248 00:13:05.799 --> 00:13:08.039 Bradley on the show the other day and we were 249 00:13:08.080 --> 00:13:12.120 talking about just the outpoint at the legislature. She said, 250 00:13:12.120 --> 00:13:15.000 even bigger than the two A issues, you know against 251 00:13:15.000 --> 00:13:18.120 the left at this point, you know, making it now 252 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:24.039 a violation of our civil rights statutes, etc. For somebody 253 00:13:24.080 --> 00:13:27.200 to refuse to call a man a woman, thinking goofiness 254 00:13:27.279 --> 00:13:29.639 like that, and you know the run they made at saying, hey, 255 00:13:29.679 --> 00:13:31.559 you're going to lose your kids unless you say your 256 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:34.399 boys a girl. So they're already doing that some of 257 00:13:34.440 --> 00:13:37.080 that stuff, but there's a fresh one that I think 258 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:39.840 is really going to capture the attention to people if 259 00:13:39.879 --> 00:13:42.320 the media will report it. Now, one of the problems 260 00:13:42.360 --> 00:13:43.759 we have in Colorado, and we have a lot of 261 00:13:43.759 --> 00:13:45.559 good people in the media, and I consider a lot 262 00:13:45.600 --> 00:13:48.480 of them friends, but the media as a whole, I 263 00:13:48.480 --> 00:13:51.799 think is so obviously aligned with the Democratic Party. A 264 00:13:51.840 --> 00:13:54.440 lot of these stories they either don't report, or they 265 00:13:54.480 --> 00:13:57.440 soft pedal or downplay. There are some very noble exceptions 266 00:13:57.480 --> 00:13:59.879 to that, but here's one of them. If everybody in 267 00:14:00.039 --> 00:14:03.639 Colorado could find out about what's going on in this case, 268 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:04.919 I'm going to tell you about. 269 00:14:05.639 --> 00:14:06.600 Yeah, I think a. 270 00:14:06.600 --> 00:14:09.639 Lot of people would shift their voting preferences in a hurry. 271 00:14:10.039 --> 00:14:16.480 But here's the latest, really kind of obscene, literally idiocy. 272 00:14:15.639 --> 00:14:19.720 This is the State of Colorado has now stepped in 273 00:14:19.879 --> 00:14:24.000 to say that this Christian camp, it operates a Christian 274 00:14:24.679 --> 00:14:28.879 summer camp, and it's got an acronym for I'd rather 275 00:14:29.120 --> 00:14:31.840 have Jesus. So I'll quote from the lawsuit. I pulled 276 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:34.080 the lawsuit document because one thing I like to do 277 00:14:34.200 --> 00:14:36.480 is I read these stories, these news stories and see 278 00:14:36.519 --> 00:14:39.159 something real interesting. I love to dig deeper and just 279 00:14:39.279 --> 00:14:43.279 pull the lawsuit document and really start to get you 280 00:14:43.360 --> 00:14:46.200 some details that you can't get from the story. So 281 00:14:46.399 --> 00:14:49.120 I'll just read to you from a few of the 282 00:14:49.279 --> 00:14:52.879 first key paragraphs in this lawsuit that has been filed 283 00:14:53.399 --> 00:14:57.360 against the state of Colorado. The civil rights action seeks 284 00:14:57.399 --> 00:15:00.240 to prevent the government from forcing a Christian summer camp 285 00:15:00.279 --> 00:15:04.200 to surrender its religious character, beliefs, and exercise to maintain 286 00:15:04.240 --> 00:15:09.039 a license to operating Colorado just like everything else. Camp 287 00:15:09.039 --> 00:15:12.080 I'd Rather Have Jesus is a children's resident camp that 288 00:15:12.159 --> 00:15:16.159 operates Christian summer camps in Colorado for children ages six 289 00:15:16.320 --> 00:15:20.159 two seventeen. Ryan, Why is the Colorado Democratic Party so 290 00:15:20.320 --> 00:15:22.600 determined to sexualize these young kids? 291 00:15:22.879 --> 00:15:24.320 What is that obsession all about? 292 00:15:24.360 --> 00:15:28.159 The lawsuit goes on to say Colorado requires children's residents 293 00:15:28.200 --> 00:15:31.600 like Camp I'd Rather Have Jesus to obtain and maintain 294 00:15:31.639 --> 00:15:36.000 a childcare license to operate in the state. Founded in 295 00:15:36.039 --> 00:15:38.919 nineteen forty eight, Camp I'd Rather Have Jesus believes in 296 00:15:38.960 --> 00:15:42.000 the power of Camp ministry to win souls to Jesus Christ. 297 00:15:42.440 --> 00:15:43.679 It exists so that all. 298 00:15:43.480 --> 00:15:46.000 Who enter its Gates would experience God in a new 299 00:15:46.039 --> 00:15:49.720 way and would say, I'd rather have Jesus more than anything, 300 00:15:50.120 --> 00:15:52.600 the words of the hymn for which the camp is named. 301 00:15:53.039 --> 00:15:55.840 While it is a christ centered organization, the camp welcomes 302 00:15:55.919 --> 00:15:59.000 children of all faiths and backgrounds to its camp. And 303 00:15:59.039 --> 00:16:01.720 then it goes on a little bit more about the camp, 304 00:16:02.159 --> 00:16:05.080 and then it goes to say, but the Colorado Department 305 00:16:05.120 --> 00:16:09.399 of Early Childhood is requiring religious children's camps like Camp 306 00:16:09.440 --> 00:16:13.480 I'd Rather have Jesus to forego their religious character, beliefs 307 00:16:13.480 --> 00:16:16.879 and exercise to operate in Colorado. The Department does so 308 00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:22.080 through regulations that require children's resident camps to allow campers 309 00:16:22.879 --> 00:16:28.919 to use restrooms, shower facilities, dressing areas, and sleeping facilities 310 00:16:29.399 --> 00:16:34.440 designated for the opposite sex. Those regulations would require the 311 00:16:34.480 --> 00:16:38.320 camp to violate its religious beliefs by altering its policies 312 00:16:38.360 --> 00:16:42.480 in operation that are based upon religious beliefs about sexuality 313 00:16:42.480 --> 00:16:47.559 and gender, including its policies of separating restrooms, shower facilities, 314 00:16:47.639 --> 00:16:52.159 dressing areas, and sleeping facilities based on biological sex rather 315 00:16:52.200 --> 00:16:56.960 than quote gender identity. The regulations would also force the 316 00:16:57.000 --> 00:16:59.240 camp to allow campers to share a tent or room 317 00:16:59.279 --> 00:17:02.080 with members of them the opposite sex on camp. I'd 318 00:17:02.159 --> 00:17:06.799 rather have Jesus off site camping and backpacking trips. No, right, yeah, 319 00:17:07.160 --> 00:17:10.880 there can't be ten living people in Colorado who think 320 00:17:10.880 --> 00:17:14.160 this is anything other than perverted and obscene for the 321 00:17:14.160 --> 00:17:15.920 State of Colorado to be I don't care what the 322 00:17:15.960 --> 00:17:18.279 camp is in this case. Yeah, this is a slam 323 00:17:18.519 --> 00:17:23.240 dunk win right for religious liberty. But I don't care 324 00:17:23.279 --> 00:17:26.359 whether it's a religious camp, whether it's a non religious camp. 325 00:17:26.599 --> 00:17:29.319 For the State of Colorado to tell these camps that 326 00:17:29.400 --> 00:17:31.759 host these little kids, oh no, you got to let 327 00:17:31.799 --> 00:17:33.519 those naked boys in with the naked girls. 328 00:17:33.559 --> 00:17:34.319 That's just perverted. 329 00:17:34.440 --> 00:17:38.079 Well, Dan, isn't there such thing as a nuisance case? 330 00:17:38.119 --> 00:17:41.920 And in this particular instance, this has been adjudicated by 331 00:17:41.960 --> 00:17:45.200 the Supreme Court of the United States and Masterpiece Cake 332 00:17:45.279 --> 00:17:48.319 Shop a case has been cited as precedent by. 333 00:17:48.240 --> 00:17:49.680 Justice Neil Gorsuch and others. 334 00:17:50.000 --> 00:17:51.319 This has already been decided. 335 00:17:51.599 --> 00:17:53.960 How can they continue to go down this road when 336 00:17:54.000 --> 00:17:56.240 it's been adjudicated by the highest court in the land. 337 00:17:57.279 --> 00:18:02.440 Well, the technical term within the law is a double 338 00:18:02.480 --> 00:18:06.200 middle finger. I mean, so what Colorado does with stuff 339 00:18:06.279 --> 00:18:11.279 like this is say we know this is illegal, sue us. 340 00:18:12.400 --> 00:18:15.599 The punishment is the process, right, just like with Jack Phillips, 341 00:18:15.599 --> 00:18:16.880 the punishment is the process. 342 00:18:16.920 --> 00:18:17.759 You got a choice. 343 00:18:18.279 --> 00:18:20.279 You can let those naked little boys in with the 344 00:18:20.359 --> 00:18:23.279 naked little girls because for some reason, the Colorado Democratic 345 00:18:23.319 --> 00:18:26.559 Party wants to sexualize all these kids. You can either 346 00:18:26.640 --> 00:18:29.200 do that or you can go out and you can 347 00:18:29.240 --> 00:18:32.799 spend millions of dollars and all this time and all 348 00:18:32.839 --> 00:18:34.839 this distraction by. 349 00:18:35.039 --> 00:18:37.319 Suing us take us to the Supreme Court. 350 00:18:38.000 --> 00:18:40.920 I mean that that is the punishment, right. So you 351 00:18:41.000 --> 00:18:42.680 either do what we want you to do, even though 352 00:18:42.680 --> 00:18:46.440 it's obviously illegal, or we punish you even if you win. 353 00:18:46.920 --> 00:18:48.079 You're on the dan Kaplas Show. 354 00:18:48.079 --> 00:18:48.960 Ibby next. 355 00:18:56.240 --> 00:18:58.079 You're listening to The dan Kaplis Show. 356 00:18:58.119 --> 00:19:01.920 Podcast talks about walking in the song and it fits 357 00:19:01.960 --> 00:19:05.119 our guests perfectly. Abby Johnson one of the great heroes 358 00:19:05.519 --> 00:19:09.680 of the pro life movement, formally a planned parenthood director, 359 00:19:09.720 --> 00:19:14.039 clinic director, and now a champion for life. Abby, welcome 360 00:19:14.079 --> 00:19:15.359 back to the dan Kapla Show. 361 00:19:16.640 --> 00:19:18.599 Hellow so good to be on with you. 362 00:19:18.960 --> 00:19:21.240 Well, I was so happy to hear that you wanted 363 00:19:21.240 --> 00:19:24.559 to come on and done this topic because I understand 364 00:19:24.599 --> 00:19:28.440 that you're justifiably very upset about Wait a second, why 365 00:19:28.559 --> 00:19:30.960 have some Planned parent who had been defunded yet? 366 00:19:32.799 --> 00:19:37.000 Yeah, I mean we just got their most recent annual 367 00:19:37.079 --> 00:19:38.279 report and. 368 00:19:39.799 --> 00:19:41.519 Numbers of number. 369 00:19:41.200 --> 00:19:45.480 Of federal funding going to them is the little staggering 370 00:19:45.839 --> 00:19:52.200 highest ever. And I mean the number of babes being 371 00:19:52.359 --> 00:19:58.640 killed being murdered by Planned parenthood up again, just continues 372 00:19:58.720 --> 00:20:01.519 to climb. And then you look at all of these 373 00:20:01.599 --> 00:20:05.119 you know, uh, I suppose you know, the defenders of 374 00:20:05.200 --> 00:20:07.400 Planned parenthood will say, oh, but. 375 00:20:07.400 --> 00:20:10.359 All those other services, well, you know, you look at 376 00:20:10.400 --> 00:20:11.799 the other services. 377 00:20:11.319 --> 00:20:16.839 Those continue to decline. So abortion up, federal dollars up, 378 00:20:17.400 --> 00:20:23.880 other services down, and Planned Parenthood still continues to be funded. 379 00:20:24.559 --> 00:20:28.240 You know, we do see in this new uh this 380 00:20:28.839 --> 00:20:33.000 Reconciliation bill, the plan is to defund them, but we 381 00:20:33.079 --> 00:20:35.759 still have a long way to go until that bill passes. 382 00:20:36.480 --> 00:20:42.880 And there are Republicans that are fighting against the defunding 383 00:20:42.960 --> 00:20:46.440 of Planned Parenthood in the bill. So you know, we 384 00:20:46.480 --> 00:20:49.759 will we will see, we will see how this goes. 385 00:20:50.480 --> 00:20:54.000 Abbie Johnson, our guest, it's abbyja dot com. Now, Abbie, 386 00:20:54.039 --> 00:20:55.880 how much is Planned Parenthood. 387 00:20:55.359 --> 00:21:01.920 Getting So they're getting over seven hundred million dollars of 388 00:21:02.039 --> 00:21:08.079 our federal taxpayer money. Now that does not include the 389 00:21:08.200 --> 00:21:12.039 state money that many states are giving them. Over over 390 00:21:12.160 --> 00:21:17.480 half of the states in the United States are funding them. 391 00:21:18.119 --> 00:21:21.519 You know, some states, you know, I mean millions and 392 00:21:21.599 --> 00:21:24.200 millions of dollars something hundreds. 393 00:21:23.880 --> 00:21:25.000 Of millions of dollars. 394 00:21:25.799 --> 00:21:29.119 So you know, for some people, people that live in 395 00:21:29.480 --> 00:21:34.079 you know what we say blue states, right, not only 396 00:21:34.119 --> 00:21:36.799 are they giving their federal tax dollars to Planned parent 397 00:21:36.920 --> 00:21:39.680 but then they're turning around and giving their state tax 398 00:21:39.720 --> 00:21:41.440 dollars to Planned Parenthood as well. 399 00:21:41.720 --> 00:21:44.839 Well, who are these Republicans who are helping Plan Parenthood 400 00:21:45.240 --> 00:21:47.599 kill these babies? 401 00:21:48.200 --> 00:21:51.680