WEBVTT 1 00:00:22.320 --> 00:00:23.039 And here we go. 2 00:00:23.440 --> 00:00:27.879 Hi, how are you welcome to the Big Podcast. It 3 00:00:28.000 --> 00:00:32.600 is Friday, today is the third day of October. You're 4 00:00:32.759 --> 00:00:36.000 of our word twenty twenty five. My name is Tom Sullivan. 5 00:00:36.640 --> 00:00:43.159 And well we're just we're just getting word that apparently 6 00:00:43.520 --> 00:00:51.560 there is Hamas has responded to the plan to basically 7 00:00:52.600 --> 00:00:57.880 come to an agreement. Everybody in the Middle East, Israel, Egypt, 8 00:00:58.320 --> 00:01:03.359 you name it, the Arab country have all said yes 9 00:01:04.000 --> 00:01:08.000 to the agreement that was put together by President Trump 10 00:01:08.319 --> 00:01:12.439 sent over Benjamin Netta, who said, we agree to it. 11 00:01:13.079 --> 00:01:17.239 And so now we were just waiting for Hamas, and 12 00:01:17.359 --> 00:01:21.680 what we're learning is that Hamas has said that they 13 00:01:21.719 --> 00:01:26.040 have agreed to release all of the Israeli hostages held 14 00:01:26.079 --> 00:01:29.239 in Gaza, as well as the bodies of those who 15 00:01:29.319 --> 00:01:35.040 have died. They also said that they would release the 16 00:01:35.159 --> 00:01:42.159 hostages according to the exchange formula contained in President Trump's proposal, 17 00:01:42.400 --> 00:01:46.439 as long as the field conditions for the exchange are met. 18 00:01:46.519 --> 00:01:50.040 So you can see I'm reading from the agreement and 19 00:01:50.480 --> 00:01:53.480 you can see there's already some caveats that that they're 20 00:01:53.480 --> 00:01:57.840 putting in this, but it's it's movement in the right direction. 21 00:01:57.920 --> 00:01:59.719 Let me get some more of this, it says, in 22 00:01:59.760 --> 00:02:04.439 this context, the movement affirms its readiness to immediately enter 23 00:02:04.640 --> 00:02:11.120 into negotiations through the mediator to discuss these details. So 24 00:02:11.879 --> 00:02:16.240 they also said that they have agreed to hand over 25 00:02:16.840 --> 00:02:21.719 the administration of the Gaza strip to a Palestinian body 26 00:02:21.840 --> 00:02:30.159 of independent technocrats based on Palestinian national consensus and Arab 27 00:02:30.400 --> 00:02:34.800 and Islamic support. So again a few more caveats on 28 00:02:34.879 --> 00:02:37.800 in there, but still moving in the right direction. So 29 00:02:37.840 --> 00:02:41.960 it's not clear from the language if they've agreed to 30 00:02:42.680 --> 00:02:45.639 the stipulation in the proposal that called for the group 31 00:02:45.719 --> 00:02:50.120 to be barred from exercising political power in the Gaza 32 00:02:50.199 --> 00:02:55.639 in the future, or if it sees itself amosis as 33 00:02:55.680 --> 00:03:01.120 a member of this body of Palestinian technocrats. So the 34 00:03:01.240 --> 00:03:06.759 question is whether Hamas's response will satisfy not only President 35 00:03:06.800 --> 00:03:11.719 Trump but also Israel. They did not address key elements 36 00:03:11.759 --> 00:03:15.360 of the proposal of the twenty point plan that Trump 37 00:03:15.400 --> 00:03:18.800 had put together that called on the group to give 38 00:03:18.879 --> 00:03:23.360 up its arms, and they also did not address the 39 00:03:23.439 --> 00:03:29.080 offer of amnesty to its members who commit to coexistence. 40 00:03:29.840 --> 00:03:33.439 So all of this President came out about the same time. 41 00:03:33.479 --> 00:03:35.439 I'm not sure if it was in response to this 42 00:03:35.759 --> 00:03:39.759 or it just coincidental, but the President said all of 43 00:03:39.800 --> 00:03:42.879 this has to be agreed to. This agreement has to 44 00:03:42.919 --> 00:03:48.639 be made by six o'clock six pm Eastern time on Sunday. 45 00:03:49.439 --> 00:03:52.680 So we now have from the time we're recording this 46 00:03:53.080 --> 00:03:57.080 basically two days forty eight hours for them to come 47 00:03:57.120 --> 00:04:00.120 to an agreement. He says, we're all hell will break loose. Oh, 48 00:04:00.800 --> 00:04:03.280 they made some movement. This is the biggest movement that 49 00:04:03.360 --> 00:04:07.719 I think I've seen in all of this earlier today, 50 00:04:09.520 --> 00:04:12.879 this is before this agreement from Hamas General Keane was 51 00:04:12.960 --> 00:04:14.800 asked about all of this. 52 00:04:15.000 --> 00:04:16.519 Let's get his take of all. 53 00:04:16.680 --> 00:04:19.920 They didn't reject it out out of hand. Ye immediately. 54 00:04:20.800 --> 00:04:23.079 They may be. The likely thing is they're going to 55 00:04:23.160 --> 00:04:27.279 counter with something that they want to negotiate over and remove. 56 00:04:28.160 --> 00:04:29.720 That would be a good one. 57 00:04:30.319 --> 00:04:32.800 Listen, if they're going to fold their hands here and 58 00:04:32.839 --> 00:04:36.399 continue to fight, Netaw is very clear and he's got 59 00:04:36.439 --> 00:04:38.519 the President's support for it. He's going to go in 60 00:04:38.519 --> 00:04:40.879 there and finish it. And they've got them completely surrounded. 61 00:04:41.399 --> 00:04:44.240 They moved close to a million people out of Gaza 62 00:04:44.279 --> 00:04:48.600 City and it's really quite remarkable. So what is going 63 00:04:48.680 --> 00:04:51.439 to be left is largely Hamas and those that are 64 00:04:51.480 --> 00:04:54.959 supporting Hamas, and they will go in there and systematically 65 00:04:55.000 --> 00:04:56.920 deal with them. Now, it will take time. This isn't 66 00:04:56.920 --> 00:04:59.000 going to end in just a couple of weeks. It'll 67 00:04:59.040 --> 00:05:03.240 take some months. I'll take some patience, that is the objective. 68 00:05:03.399 --> 00:05:07.199 But now I support them completely on this. He's clear eyed. 69 00:05:07.600 --> 00:05:10.079 He's got to finish these guys once and for all. 70 00:05:10.160 --> 00:05:12.959 This it's fiction. When people say, well, this is an 71 00:05:12.959 --> 00:05:15.879 ideology and you can't defeat it, that's nonsense. We defeated 72 00:05:15.920 --> 00:05:19.360 the al Qaeda summarily in Iraq. These are guys with guns, 73 00:05:19.720 --> 00:05:21.199 and if you want to defeat them, you do what 74 00:05:21.639 --> 00:05:24.000 and you take their guns away and you kill them. 75 00:05:24.120 --> 00:05:27.639 Yeah, So that was before this announcement. But Hamas obviously 76 00:05:28.000 --> 00:05:32.199 again the deadline is six pm Eastern Time on Sunday. 77 00:05:32.839 --> 00:05:37.519 And again this is the early reports that are coming in. 78 00:05:38.160 --> 00:05:43.279 But the President has again issued a Sunday evening deadline 79 00:05:43.480 --> 00:05:47.279 for Hamas to agree to his peace plan. And they 80 00:05:47.319 --> 00:05:51.399 did not have an immediate comment to the statement released 81 00:05:51.439 --> 00:05:55.399 by the Palestinian Group Byjmas. So there it looks like 82 00:05:55.439 --> 00:05:59.120 the White House is reviewing it, but there's still a 83 00:05:59.160 --> 00:06:01.480 lot of copy and a lot of we need to 84 00:06:01.519 --> 00:06:04.040 negotiate and going on. 85 00:06:04.519 --> 00:06:05.480 So we'll see. 86 00:06:05.480 --> 00:06:08.680 It's awfully hard to do breaking news with a podcast, 87 00:06:08.720 --> 00:06:12.959 but I thought it was pretty important of what has 88 00:06:13.079 --> 00:06:18.000 happened here on this Friday. Meantime, speaking a general team, 89 00:06:18.160 --> 00:06:20.800 there's other things that he talked about as well. One 90 00:06:20.839 --> 00:06:25.399 of them was the fact that we are now militarily 91 00:06:25.480 --> 00:06:32.079 going around and attacking drug boats that are coming from 92 00:06:32.279 --> 00:06:38.399 Latin America. And he was asked about the idea of 93 00:06:38.519 --> 00:06:43.040 us basically using kinetic force of our military regarding the 94 00:06:43.120 --> 00:06:43.800 drug lords. 95 00:06:44.399 --> 00:06:49.680 Yeah, well, it's obvious to cartel's weaponizing drugs for their 96 00:06:49.720 --> 00:06:54.519 own Profitearian for sure, it's onder mining American society. The 97 00:06:54.560 --> 00:06:57.800 health and welfare of our society has been seriously penetrated. 98 00:06:57.879 --> 00:06:59.959 Hundreds of thousands of people have been killed by friends 99 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:04.480 and alan. The approach we've been taken, not we're working. 100 00:07:05.319 --> 00:07:07.600 So this is an approach. It's different to be sure, 101 00:07:07.639 --> 00:07:10.720 we've stopped these boats in the past, but they keep coming. 102 00:07:11.240 --> 00:07:14.279 Now we're shooting the boats and it's likely they're going 103 00:07:14.360 --> 00:07:17.959 to stop coming. The President, i think, is notifying Congress 104 00:07:18.199 --> 00:07:22.600 that he defines this as armed conflict, which legally then 105 00:07:22.720 --> 00:07:26.040 gives him the authority to treat it not just as 106 00:07:26.079 --> 00:07:31.040 a law enforcement and aggressive policing where there's no threat 107 00:07:31.680 --> 00:07:36.199 to the police. Here, even though there's no threat to 108 00:07:36.279 --> 00:07:40.279 an armed military force, they can use that lethal force 109 00:07:40.319 --> 00:07:42.759 against them, even though there's no direct threat to them, 110 00:07:42.800 --> 00:07:46.600 because why it's an armed conflict. Distinction is important. I 111 00:07:46.600 --> 00:07:48.839 think this will get discussed among the lawyers. Are something 112 00:07:48.879 --> 00:07:51.519 going to get discussed among the Congress in terms of 113 00:07:51.560 --> 00:07:54.720 the legalities here. I'm not an expert on the legalities, 114 00:07:55.000 --> 00:07:58.120 but I do know what right looks like, and doing 115 00:07:58.160 --> 00:07:59.480 this makes sense to me. 116 00:08:00.000 --> 00:08:01.519 All right, So General Kean, I mean, he was very 117 00:08:01.519 --> 00:08:05.040 clear he thinks this makes sense that they are an 118 00:08:05.160 --> 00:08:10.160 enemy and that they're killing Americans with their drugs. And 119 00:08:10.439 --> 00:08:12.800 I know there's another whole discussion about the fact that 120 00:08:12.879 --> 00:08:17.480 the demand by Americans for drugs versus the supply by 121 00:08:17.519 --> 00:08:21.519 the cartel, But at this point General Keen is throwing 122 00:08:21.560 --> 00:08:24.240 his hat in the ring and saying I support it. 123 00:08:24.439 --> 00:08:28.120 We'll let the lawyers fight out whatever. It's going to 124 00:08:28.120 --> 00:08:31.439 go to the courts, obviously. And then the third topic 125 00:08:31.519 --> 00:08:35.120 that General Keen talked about today is asked about Ukraine 126 00:08:36.039 --> 00:08:38.879 and what are we going to do about Ukraine. 127 00:08:38.879 --> 00:08:40.240 Here's the general and listen. 128 00:08:40.360 --> 00:08:42.480 Ukraine has been doing great work with the system in 129 00:08:42.480 --> 00:08:44.559 the United States back in April. They've been on to 130 00:08:44.639 --> 00:08:51.080 systematically hit oil capabilities inside of Russia and now there's 131 00:08:51.080 --> 00:08:54.600 distribution problems and gas lines that we're seeing in some 132 00:08:54.639 --> 00:08:57.720 of the major cities in Russia. As a result of that, 133 00:08:58.120 --> 00:09:01.159 the President has opened the aperture than wider to use 134 00:09:01.440 --> 00:09:04.600 all of our long range offensive systems and is more 135 00:09:04.679 --> 00:09:08.679 coming and the United States Targeting Cell will assist the 136 00:09:08.759 --> 00:09:13.159 Ukrainians in reaching that. Russia and what's inside of Russia 137 00:09:13.240 --> 00:09:16.360 should not be a sanctuary, so where they can sustain, 138 00:09:17.399 --> 00:09:20.120 No sanctuary should exist in Russia. And what they have 139 00:09:20.240 --> 00:09:22.399 done as a result that the fact think about they 140 00:09:22.440 --> 00:09:27.360 don't have to defend anything in Russia, military logistics, infrastructure, 141 00:09:27.159 --> 00:09:30.240 they're oil capability, which sustains an army on the field, 142 00:09:30.279 --> 00:09:33.440 not just a population inside of Russia. And yes, the 143 00:09:33.720 --> 00:09:37.440 entire energy infrastructure, the industrial base should all be targets. 144 00:09:37.480 --> 00:09:40.519 I mean, we want to after Germany's industrial based, Japan's 145 00:09:40.559 --> 00:09:44.360 industrial base while we are also fighting frontline troops. This 146 00:09:44.399 --> 00:09:48.440 has been denied Ukraine to do it comprehensively. The administration 147 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:52.720 is taking off all the restriction and letting them go forward, 148 00:09:52.759 --> 00:09:56.639 and our targeting cell provides them exquisite intelligence. So our 149 00:09:56.679 --> 00:09:59.840 audience understands this isn't something new. We've been providing intelligence 150 00:09:59.879 --> 00:10:03.919 to the Ukrainians from the outset and it's very, very good. 151 00:10:04.480 --> 00:10:07.039 We'll talking about a big change from the President. He 152 00:10:07.279 --> 00:10:11.000 sounded like he wasn't all that thrilled to support Zelensky 153 00:10:11.039 --> 00:10:15.080 and Ukraine, and now they're talking about long range missiles 154 00:10:15.320 --> 00:10:19.639 which will really change the balance of that war tremendously. 155 00:10:20.039 --> 00:10:24.360 Another breaking news item as we're recording the podcast on 156 00:10:24.399 --> 00:10:30.120 this Friday, is Sean ditty Combs at the Federal or 157 00:10:30.120 --> 00:10:34.759 at the New York Courthouse in Lower Manhattan, and they've 158 00:10:34.799 --> 00:10:39.559 been having a sentencing hearing all day and just moments ago. Well, 159 00:10:39.600 --> 00:10:44.840 the prosecutor wanted eleven years sentence for Shawn ditty Combs. 160 00:10:45.519 --> 00:10:48.840 His defense lawyers wanted fourteen months. He's been in jail 161 00:10:48.919 --> 00:10:52.840 for thirteen so basically it would be just about time served. Well, 162 00:10:52.840 --> 00:10:56.399 the judge just handed it down and said four years 163 00:10:56.559 --> 00:11:00.639 and two months is what the sentence is. Months he's 164 00:11:00.679 --> 00:11:05.159 served thirteen of those, so about a little more than 165 00:11:05.279 --> 00:11:10.519 three years more for Sean Diddy Combs to hang out 166 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:15.240 in jail. So that is the sentence on him. Remember, 167 00:11:15.279 --> 00:11:20.360 he was acquitted of all the major charges against him, 168 00:11:20.399 --> 00:11:23.600 the Rico charges and all that, so the judge sentenced 169 00:11:23.639 --> 00:11:26.919 him solely on the two counts that he was found 170 00:11:26.960 --> 00:11:34.200 guilty of transportation for prostitution, two counts on that, so 171 00:11:34.240 --> 00:11:38.480 that he gets four years two months minus thirteen that 172 00:11:38.519 --> 00:11:42.519 he's already served. So that's for Sean Diddy Puff Daddy 173 00:11:42.919 --> 00:11:47.080 Combs out of the courthouse today in Lower New York. 174 00:11:47.639 --> 00:11:50.440 I do need to get to the government shutdown because 175 00:11:50.480 --> 00:11:54.440 there are some things going on behind the scenes. First 176 00:11:54.440 --> 00:11:58.840 of all, if you listen to conservative media, you will 177 00:11:58.919 --> 00:12:04.960 find that the Republicans have open and shutcase. They offered 178 00:12:05.120 --> 00:12:08.559 a just kick the can down the road until the 179 00:12:08.600 --> 00:12:12.679 third week of November. That's the clean continuing resolution. No 180 00:12:12.799 --> 00:12:15.559 big deal, why don't you sign this thing? And if 181 00:12:15.559 --> 00:12:18.000 you and and and it's and then and then the 182 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:21.200 conservative media will will point out that this is all 183 00:12:21.360 --> 00:12:26.519 about Chuck Schumer, and Schumer is afraid because the Democrats 184 00:12:26.519 --> 00:12:30.039 were so mad at him for doing a what was 185 00:12:30.039 --> 00:12:32.320 it a spending bill or something like that. That needed 186 00:12:32.320 --> 00:12:35.159 to be done. The fact that he cooperated with with 187 00:12:35.320 --> 00:12:38.720 Donald Trump is a mortal sin in the in the 188 00:12:38.759 --> 00:12:42.879 eyes of a lot of Democrats. So Schumer knows that, 189 00:12:43.039 --> 00:12:45.639 and he doesn't want to look like he's cooperating in 190 00:12:45.759 --> 00:12:51.159 any way, shape or form. However, on the other side, 191 00:12:51.200 --> 00:12:53.559 so the Democrats are looking at and going, this is 192 00:12:53.759 --> 00:13:00.639 all about healthcare, and healthcare for whether it has illegals 193 00:13:00.759 --> 00:13:04.600 or not illegals. It's about Medicaid. It's the cuts that 194 00:13:04.679 --> 00:13:08.200 the government passed on the big beautiful bill that they 195 00:13:08.200 --> 00:13:12.879 were going to be reforming Medicaid to the point where 196 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:16.519 it's like their reformed welfare back in the Clinton administration. 197 00:13:17.039 --> 00:13:21.159 They said, look at you are still on medicaid if 198 00:13:21.200 --> 00:13:27.919 you are disabled, elderly, a poverty line, all that except 199 00:13:27.960 --> 00:13:32.919 for if you are an able bodied mail with no dependents. 200 00:13:33.519 --> 00:13:36.399 You got to go get a job. You can't just 201 00:13:36.600 --> 00:13:41.519 keep collecting free medical. And if you're here illegally, you 202 00:13:41.679 --> 00:13:46.279 can't collect free medical. So that's what they said, We're 203 00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:49.000 not going to allow that after December thirty first of 204 00:13:49.039 --> 00:13:51.799 this year. The Democrats are using this as their last 205 00:13:51.840 --> 00:13:55.080 lever to try to get that back in. It's a 206 00:13:55.120 --> 00:13:59.679 one and a half trillion dollar cost. And yet here's 207 00:13:59.720 --> 00:14:04.960 the problem with it. I at this and say this 208 00:14:05.039 --> 00:14:07.919 is fiscally makes all the sense in the world to 209 00:14:08.000 --> 00:14:13.159 cut off people who are able bodied, young men who 210 00:14:13.320 --> 00:14:16.279 are just being lazy, Go get a job, or we're 211 00:14:16.320 --> 00:14:18.519 not going to keep giving you free medical. And I 212 00:14:18.559 --> 00:14:21.200 don't want to give free medical to the immigrants. I 213 00:14:21.200 --> 00:14:22.759 could play a clip for you. I saw it the 214 00:14:22.759 --> 00:14:25.759 other day of Hillary Clinton, I don't know twenty years ago, 215 00:14:26.039 --> 00:14:30.000 was railing about no free medical for people that come 216 00:14:30.039 --> 00:14:34.320 into our country illegally. So it's all about politics. But 217 00:14:35.279 --> 00:14:41.120 at this point, here's the problem. I've talked about this before. 218 00:14:41.200 --> 00:14:44.879 Whenever there's a poll about you want to tax the rich, 219 00:14:45.720 --> 00:14:50.840 it always is sixty some percent of the population says yes. 220 00:14:51.720 --> 00:14:55.399 It's very popular. People like to tax the rich because 221 00:14:55.399 --> 00:14:58.679 they don't think it's them. It's the same with this. 222 00:14:59.399 --> 00:15:06.799 People have a soft spot for fellow citizens and even 223 00:15:06.960 --> 00:15:10.720 for illegals, believe it or not, and they don't want 224 00:15:10.759 --> 00:15:15.080 to take medical insurance away from these people. Why that's 225 00:15:15.159 --> 00:15:18.159 just mean. And so front page of the Wall Street 226 00:15:18.240 --> 00:15:25.240 Journal today, white House senses political risk on healthcare despite 227 00:15:25.480 --> 00:15:29.919 shut down Bravado. So, according to the Wall Street Journal, 228 00:15:30.679 --> 00:15:37.159 Trump aids are discussing proposals to extend those Obamacare subsidies 229 00:15:37.600 --> 00:15:41.840 on which millions of Americans rely. It's about two million people. 230 00:15:42.919 --> 00:15:46.039 And so you go out and you survey this, and 231 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:50.759 you find out that people are going you know, I know, 232 00:15:51.039 --> 00:15:53.600 I know about the illeg That doesn't make sense to me, 233 00:15:53.679 --> 00:15:56.960 But I don't want to take healthcare away from anybody. 234 00:15:58.039 --> 00:16:02.240 Fact Harry Enton over at Seas and the Statistician, his 235 00:16:02.399 --> 00:16:04.679 latest polls may surprise you. 236 00:16:05.080 --> 00:16:06.960 Yeah, I think there are a lot of Republicans out 237 00:16:07.000 --> 00:16:09.080 there right now strutting around thinking. 238 00:16:08.840 --> 00:16:11.000 That they're cock of the walk. But here's the thing 239 00:16:11.039 --> 00:16:11.799 to keep in mind. 240 00:16:12.120 --> 00:16:16.080 Blame more for the twenty twenty five shutdown, hohod, Americans 241 00:16:16.080 --> 00:16:19.320 blame more. They blame Republicans The New York Times by 242 00:16:19.360 --> 00:16:21.879 seven points. They blame Republicans in Congress and Donald Trump. 243 00:16:22.360 --> 00:16:25.399 Maris look at that, blame Trump and Republicans by twelve points. 244 00:16:25.480 --> 00:16:28.759 How about Washington Post by a seventeen point margin. When 245 00:16:28.799 --> 00:16:30.840 you look at the data, what you're actually seeing is 246 00:16:30.879 --> 00:16:34.240 that more Americans are blaming Republicans than Democrats, which I 247 00:16:34.240 --> 00:16:36.440 think really goes against the conventional wisdom because a lot 248 00:16:36.480 --> 00:16:38.720 of folks are saying, hey, Democrats are so divided, but 249 00:16:38.720 --> 00:16:41.840 at this particular point, Americans are placing the blame on 250 00:16:41.879 --> 00:16:44.519 the Republicans shoulders, at least the plurality of them are. 251 00:16:44.720 --> 00:16:45.000 Yeah. 252 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:46.799 This is what I think is so notable here is 253 00:16:46.799 --> 00:16:48.799 we can go back over time and this is actually 254 00:16:48.840 --> 00:16:49.960 a pretty familiar story. 255 00:16:50.000 --> 00:16:51.840 What are we talking about here? Blame more. 256 00:16:51.879 --> 00:16:54.360 At the start of shutdowns ninety five, ninety six, they 257 00:16:54.399 --> 00:16:57.440 blame the Republicans more by sixteen points. Twenty thirteen, blame 258 00:16:57.480 --> 00:16:59.960 the Republicans more by ten points, twenty eighteen, twenty now 259 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:03.039 nineteen blame the Republicans more by fourteen points. And right now, 260 00:17:03.120 --> 00:17:05.720 on the average poll you see that the American public 261 00:17:05.759 --> 00:17:09.200 are blaming Republicans more by twelve points than Democrats. So 262 00:17:09.279 --> 00:17:11.599 this actually lines up with what we see in historically 263 00:17:11.799 --> 00:17:14.200 when the government goes in the shutdown, at least in 264 00:17:14.240 --> 00:17:16.400 prior occasions. On in this one, what we see is 265 00:17:16.440 --> 00:17:19.880 that more Americans are likely to blame Republicans than Democrats, 266 00:17:20.079 --> 00:17:23.480 which again is why the polling right now doesn't exactly 267 00:17:23.480 --> 00:17:26.240 strike me as surprising. Despite the fact that Democrats might 268 00:17:26.279 --> 00:17:29.000 be messy, Republicans are the ones who are getting more blamed, 269 00:17:29.039 --> 00:17:31.400 because that is what has happened, at least historically speaking, 270 00:17:31.480 --> 00:17:33.559 the Republicans are the ones who have the House, the Senate, 271 00:17:33.799 --> 00:17:35.920 and of course the presidents say, yeah, I think this 272 00:17:36.039 --> 00:17:37.440 is notable, right, I think there might be a lot 273 00:17:37.480 --> 00:17:40.759 of Republicans who would say, Okay, these are early days yet, right, 274 00:17:40.799 --> 00:17:43.880 this is early days yet. But what happens at the 275 00:17:43.960 --> 00:17:46.559 end of the shutdown, does in fact the blame change. Well, 276 00:17:46.640 --> 00:17:50.160 historically speaking, no, who gets the blame at the start 277 00:17:50.160 --> 00:17:51.960 of the shutdown has ended up being the ones who 278 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:53.839 get the blame at the end of the shutdown ninety five, 279 00:17:53.920 --> 00:17:58.759 ninety six GOPGP, twenty thirteen GOPGP, twenty eighteen GOPGP. 280 00:17:59.000 --> 00:18:00.960 Look at early days yet, maybe a history will be 281 00:18:01.000 --> 00:18:02.440 bucked in this particular situation. 282 00:18:02.640 --> 00:18:05.119 But historically speaking, if you're being blamed at the start 283 00:18:05.160 --> 00:18:07.079 of a shutdown, you're getting blamed at the end of it. 284 00:18:07.119 --> 00:18:09.440 And right now it's Republicans who are being blamed at 285 00:18:09.480 --> 00:18:11.880 the start of this one. History ain't exactly too kind 286 00:18:11.880 --> 00:18:13.640 to those who are blamed at the start of shutdown. 287 00:18:13.839 --> 00:18:18.119 So the reality is is that historically people always blame 288 00:18:18.160 --> 00:18:21.759 the Republicans. It doesn't matter what the facts are, and 289 00:18:21.839 --> 00:18:24.240 so in this particular case, and then you throw in 290 00:18:24.319 --> 00:18:26.599 the Wall Street Journal talking about the fact that there 291 00:18:26.599 --> 00:18:29.319 are a number of people in the White House who 292 00:18:29.359 --> 00:18:33.160 are discussing proposals to try to figure out how to 293 00:18:33.240 --> 00:18:40.960 extend taxpayer subsidies for Obamacare insurance premiums. And that is 294 00:18:41.000 --> 00:18:44.279 something that somebody's got to give. And Wall Street Journal 295 00:18:44.359 --> 00:18:46.359 says that least the people in the White House are 296 00:18:46.359 --> 00:18:50.160 talking about, how can we do that without making our 297 00:18:50.240 --> 00:18:53.119 base mad at us? Well, it's the same with the Democrats. 298 00:18:53.599 --> 00:18:57.880 How can they do any business with Donald Trump unless 299 00:18:57.920 --> 00:19:03.599 they get their desire to keep doing the healthcare subsidies. 300 00:19:03.640 --> 00:19:08.119 And this is something that Democrats have had that desire 301 00:19:08.240 --> 00:19:12.160 for a very long period of time. They have wanted 302 00:19:12.759 --> 00:19:19.559 to have single payer, government only health insurance. And a 303 00:19:19.599 --> 00:19:22.640 lot of people in this country, including me, squawked about that. 304 00:19:22.880 --> 00:19:26.000 It's been tried in Canada, it's been tried in the UK, 305 00:19:26.079 --> 00:19:28.200 It's been tried in a lot of other countries. And 306 00:19:28.240 --> 00:19:33.440 wherever it's tried, the system goes is financially on the skids. 307 00:19:33.920 --> 00:19:39.359 They don't provide a lot of treatment for lots of 308 00:19:39.440 --> 00:19:43.720 the expensive illnesses, No they'll take care of you got 309 00:19:43.720 --> 00:19:47.240 a broken leg, fine, but if you've got some major 310 00:19:47.279 --> 00:19:50.000 disease that's going to take a lot of medical care 311 00:19:50.039 --> 00:19:52.880 and a lot of medicine. Uh, they just say, sorry, 312 00:19:52.920 --> 00:19:57.839 it doesn't work. So it's a terrible system. Is a 313 00:19:58.720 --> 00:20:03.160 socialist system, but that's what the Democrats have always wanted. 314 00:20:04.599 --> 00:20:09.319 Most people at the same time don't support the Democrats politically, 315 00:20:09.480 --> 00:20:16.440 but on this issue they are doing that soft hearted 316 00:20:16.480 --> 00:20:19.240 stuff I've seen over and over and over again, is 317 00:20:19.240 --> 00:20:23.079 they don't want to take away the health insurance premium 318 00:20:23.119 --> 00:20:27.640 for some dude that's sitting on his behind playing video 319 00:20:27.759 --> 00:20:30.839 games or whatever he's doing and not going to work. 320 00:20:30.880 --> 00:20:33.160 We give him free medical care, but they don't think 321 00:20:33.200 --> 00:20:37.240 of it that way. We'll see what happens from here, 322 00:20:37.279 --> 00:20:41.880 but stand by, because there's going to have to be 323 00:20:42.359 --> 00:20:47.079 somebody is going to have to blink. Kate Bedenfield is 324 00:20:47.319 --> 00:20:53.079 a Democrat spokeswoman. She's very good at spending things for 325 00:20:53.240 --> 00:20:55.160 the left. This is her take. 326 00:20:54.960 --> 00:20:57.480 On it, So I would say that, Look, it's no 327 00:20:57.559 --> 00:21:00.960 secret there is frustration among the Democratics with leadership of 328 00:21:00.960 --> 00:21:03.519 the Democratic Party. Some of that is just a function 329 00:21:03.599 --> 00:21:05.880 of the fact that Democrats don't control any of the 330 00:21:05.960 --> 00:21:08.680 levers of power right now in Washington, and that's incredibly 331 00:21:08.680 --> 00:21:12.359 frustrating for the base who is watching as Trump is 332 00:21:12.400 --> 00:21:15.519 doing things that they find abhorrent. So there is certainly 333 00:21:15.559 --> 00:21:18.759 some frustration. I will say though, that on this question 334 00:21:18.799 --> 00:21:21.880 of healthcare, and Pete was saying, this is the Democrats 335 00:21:21.920 --> 00:21:24.559 trying to drag the Republicans into their mess on healthcare. 336 00:21:24.839 --> 00:21:28.680 There is no stronger argument. There is no more popular 337 00:21:28.839 --> 00:21:31.400 argument that Democrats can make to the country than the 338 00:21:31.400 --> 00:21:33.880 one that they make about how they have made healthcare 339 00:21:33.880 --> 00:21:37.480 more affordable through Obamacare and beyond. It continues to be 340 00:21:37.839 --> 00:21:40.920 It was an issue that drove the twenty twenty race. 341 00:21:41.160 --> 00:21:43.960 It didn't have as much impact in the twenty twenty 342 00:21:44.000 --> 00:21:46.160 four race and the other things were going on, but 343 00:21:46.200 --> 00:21:48.440 this continues to be an issue where when Democrats can 344 00:21:48.480 --> 00:21:51.480 be talking about healthcare, they're in a strong they have 345 00:21:51.519 --> 00:21:54.039 the upper hand, they're in a strong position. So to 346 00:21:54.119 --> 00:21:58.119 see Senator Sanders congress on Nicasio Cortes doing a video 347 00:21:58.319 --> 00:22:02.240 like that that clarifies the issues so concisely for voters 348 00:22:02.240 --> 00:22:04.400 and reaches an audience of people who may not be 349 00:22:04.400 --> 00:22:06.559 paying attention to the back and forth everything that's going 350 00:22:06.599 --> 00:22:09.839 on in Washington is hugely valuable, and it's all part 351 00:22:09.839 --> 00:22:13.240 of a bigger, broader democratic effort. And you know, I would, really, 352 00:22:13.400 --> 00:22:16.200 I would counsel the Democrats to keep this fight focused 353 00:22:16.240 --> 00:22:17.640 on healthcare because it is a winner. 354 00:22:18.160 --> 00:22:21.279 Yeah, she says that's the winner. Keep beating the drum 355 00:22:21.359 --> 00:22:25.720 about healthcare and she thinks that they will win. She 356 00:22:26.200 --> 00:22:29.960 was talking about AOC and Bernie. They put out a 357 00:22:30.039 --> 00:22:34.480 video that's been seeing millions of times, and she thought 358 00:22:34.480 --> 00:22:36.200 that that was also very helpful. 359 00:22:36.240 --> 00:22:38.640 Here it is, well, there's nothing clean about it. 360 00:22:38.759 --> 00:22:41.599 This is one of the dirtiest tricks that has been 361 00:22:41.680 --> 00:22:43.279 pulled on the American people. 362 00:22:43.559 --> 00:22:44.079 Right now. 363 00:22:44.279 --> 00:22:48.519 Your monthly insurance premiums are going to double if. 364 00:22:48.400 --> 00:22:50.359 You don't have the money to go to Ada and 365 00:22:50.480 --> 00:22:51.880 you're sick your diet. 366 00:22:53.160 --> 00:22:55.920 Yeah, So if you're a young, able body person who's 367 00:22:56.000 --> 00:22:59.680 been ripping off the system by getting free medical, you're 368 00:22:59.759 --> 00:23:03.079 going to have to pay a lot more than if 369 00:23:03.119 --> 00:23:06.640 you paid anything in the past. Pete set who is 370 00:23:06.680 --> 00:23:10.960 a spokesman for Republicans at this response. 371 00:23:10.680 --> 00:23:13.920 Well, Kate Kate was spot on. Republicans are speaking to 372 00:23:13.960 --> 00:23:17.200 their base, Democrats are speaking to their base. The Republican 373 00:23:17.279 --> 00:23:20.880 base wants to see them fight Democrats and stand firm, 374 00:23:21.119 --> 00:23:24.400 and the Democrat base wants to see them fight Donald Trump. 375 00:23:24.440 --> 00:23:27.200 And Republicans, well, there's a time and a place to 376 00:23:27.680 --> 00:23:30.680 debate and discuss healthcare, just like there's a time and 377 00:23:30.720 --> 00:23:36.079 a place to discuss immigration, or energy policy or education. 378 00:23:36.400 --> 00:23:39.160 But not when it comes to funding of the government 379 00:23:39.359 --> 00:23:42.200 and all the lives that are impacted by it. And 380 00:23:42.240 --> 00:23:44.240 those aren't my words, those are the words of Senator 381 00:23:44.319 --> 00:23:49.640 Chris Murphy from twenty thirteen. Democrats have always said that 382 00:23:49.920 --> 00:23:54.319 a clean cr should be passed and we shouldn't try 383 00:23:54.400 --> 00:23:59.839 Republicans shouldn't try to extract certain policy concessions during these debates, 384 00:23:59.839 --> 00:24:02.880 and yet that's exactly what Democrats are doing. 385 00:24:03.400 --> 00:24:06.720 We shouldn't even be having this conversation. A clean cr 386 00:24:06.839 --> 00:24:09.480 should have been passed. The Republican majority in the House 387 00:24:09.519 --> 00:24:13.160 of Representatives passed one. It's now in the Senate's court, 388 00:24:13.519 --> 00:24:17.519 and it likely will fail yet again later today because 389 00:24:17.839 --> 00:24:23.559 of Democrats and Transigents, because they want to drag Republicans 390 00:24:23.599 --> 00:24:28.319 into their healthcare mess. This is only happening because Democrats. 391 00:24:28.400 --> 00:24:32.279 Not a single Republican voted for Obamacare. The Affordable Care Act, 392 00:24:32.279 --> 00:24:35.680 which has never been affordable. We're still waiting fifteen years 393 00:24:35.759 --> 00:24:39.240 later for the affordability part of that and the subsidies 394 00:24:39.279 --> 00:24:42.279 that are being discussed. Again, not a single Republican has 395 00:24:42.359 --> 00:24:45.559 voted for those in the American Rescue Plan Act or 396 00:24:45.599 --> 00:24:48.880 the Inflation Reduction Act, So they're trying to drag Republicans 397 00:24:49.079 --> 00:24:51.920 into a mess that they themselves created. 398 00:24:52.160 --> 00:24:56.119 Well, he is right. This all stems on Obamacare, which 399 00:24:56.440 --> 00:25:00.279 was through some parliamentary tricks, was passed by Congress during 400 00:25:00.319 --> 00:25:04.680 the Obama administration. But it's never been popular. It's never 401 00:25:04.720 --> 00:25:08.519