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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going over the same parenting topics over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's all make like we're doing something important for

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<v Speaker 2>our families. Each Wednesday we bring you our thoughts on

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<v Speaker 2>a newer entertainment property, and for this week of October

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<v Speaker 2>twenty first, we're discussing season four, episode nine of Only

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<v Speaker 2>Murders in the Building. It was called Escape from Planet Clongo, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Right there you know that they're pushing it that this

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be an unpromising episode. Really really, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the title, and I don't IMDb does not show a

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<v Speaker 1>movie by that.

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<v Speaker 2>Title, So yeah, well that was the title of the

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<v Speaker 2>movie in the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>That they were in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, good guys. We did get to see some guests,

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<v Speaker 2>says Attack we did.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice to see it. Jane Lynch, glad you got another paycheck.

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<v Speaker 1>And Paul Rudd m hm, golly, finally a celebrity on

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<v Speaker 1>this show. Ron Howard, Ron Howard, really, buddy, Okay, we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen so few celebrities this season.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think if I diagnose this season with anything, it's yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it is possible to have too many celebrities. Just because

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<v Speaker 1>your friends all want to be on the show doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean you have to let them in. Yeah, It's just

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<v Speaker 1>at some point it just gets ridiculous and it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>are we making up plot points so that we can

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<v Speaker 1>get something? I don't know. Good for them, Good for

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<v Speaker 1>Ron Howard, Nice to see you, man. I was wondering

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<v Speaker 1>the whole episode. Are they really bringing him in? Are

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<v Speaker 1>they just going to make jokes about him?

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<v Speaker 2>But there he was?

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<v Speaker 1>There, he was Ron, Ron.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so we, I guess finally have a have a

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<v Speaker 1>murderer in the building.

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<v Speaker 2>They have shown us that this person as at least

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<v Speaker 2>killed Glenn Stubbins. Yes, so we're meant to believe that

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<v Speaker 2>that that will implicate this person for everything else.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, though of course who knows? But yeah, I okay,

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<v Speaker 1>they they put everybody's name in on a slip of paper,

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<v Speaker 1>shook up a box, somebody pulled him out. Yep, could

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<v Speaker 1>have been anybody, right, I was really liking your idea

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<v Speaker 1>that it was going to be Howard because that could

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<v Speaker 1>have been him under that suit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that ski mask.

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<v Speaker 3>But no, I wouldn't say that was necessarily an idea.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just like what else can what else can

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<v Speaker 3>we throw at this?

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<v Speaker 1>Basically, I guess, I guess, don't disown it.

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<v Speaker 2>It was good.

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<v Speaker 1>I liked it. I ran with it. He's got his

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<v Speaker 1>name in the opening credits. That must mean something.

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<v Speaker 2>So even though we haven't seen him for a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's true. Nor have we seen this guy for

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of episodes, And all right, fun.

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<v Speaker 2>This guy who might might gal I don't know, Oh

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<v Speaker 2>it might be.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that might be something that they were

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<v Speaker 2>setting up.

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<v Speaker 1>But alrighty okay, yes, line whatever, you just go, you

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<v Speaker 1>go show.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean this The way that they you know,

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<v Speaker 2>built up to this was very just you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they kept they were showing, they were saying Okay, they've

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<v Speaker 2>narrowed it down to this stunt person who worked on

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<v Speaker 2>this movie with Sas and they have you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>showed them from the back. They showed them with this

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<v Speaker 2>hood over their head because they're doing a scene. And

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<v Speaker 2>they got Glenn stubbn's friend, you know, identifying who the

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<v Speaker 2>director was on the movie, but not who this stunt

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<v Speaker 2>person was. Yeah, they were like, oh, we figured like,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't know this person's name.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, alrighty, yeah, I will say that the FuG Girls.

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<v Speaker 2>Have been on this this suspect for a couple of days, now, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Yeah, if if this suspect does turn out

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<v Speaker 1>to be female, that would explain why Saz was so

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<v Speaker 1>eager to protege. All right, I suppose I just thought

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<v Speaker 1>he had dumb surfer hair at some point. Yeah, but yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it could be. I don't clear. I don't honestly care.

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<v Speaker 1>One more episode, right, One more episode? Yep, one more,

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<v Speaker 1>one more, and then we will be free of this

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<v Speaker 1>season and shake the dust from our shoes. Yes, now,

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<v Speaker 1>it's fine, I'm fine, everything's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, do you want to hear the FuG girls other theory?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes? I do very much.

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<v Speaker 2>That So next week, it's going to be the wedding

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<v Speaker 2>of Oliver and Loretta at the.

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<v Speaker 1>Arconia, and there is what could possibly go wrong?

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<v Speaker 2>Right. Their concern is that Loretta is going to be next.

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<v Speaker 1>I share that concern, and I've seen that concern in

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<v Speaker 1>other places. But you know, Loretta, may I suggest a

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<v Speaker 1>bulletproof vest under the wedding dress and keep your head down.

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<v Speaker 1>Bit or maybe she's the killer and she'll kill them

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<v Speaker 1>all and the series will be over.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, red wedding.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but having the wedding in the Arconia and the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that the show always cliffhangers the next mystery at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the season makes it seem very likely

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<v Speaker 1>that that be the case. But man, don't kill all

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<v Speaker 1>your famous guest stars. Come on.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and as we talked about last week, Paul Rudd

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<v Speaker 2>did manage to keep coming back, even though it seems.

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<v Speaker 1>To be Bob now though it's not impossibly he has

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<v Speaker 1>a twin brother.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it comes along for the funeral. Definitely could happen,

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<v Speaker 2>although he already had no No, that was yeah. I

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<v Speaker 2>was gonna say he already had a funeral, but that

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<v Speaker 2>was Paul Rudd actual, yes, yes, Ben Glenn Roy not Ben, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>not Glenn's not Stubbins Stubens.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he found a way to hang around for another season.

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<v Speaker 1>He could find a way to hang around for another one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all sorts of disguises. Oh, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say about this thing specifically, other than

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<v Speaker 1>it was just.

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<v Speaker 2>It just annoyed you quite a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>On the topic of parenting, speaking of things that are

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<v Speaker 1>pushed further than they should go and that really have

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<v Speaker 1>no relevance to anything. Let's see. Uh, here's a parenting tip.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're gonna set somebody on fire, make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>they really really know not to move too soon afterwards.

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<v Speaker 1>You told them once, right, Zaz told him don't move

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<v Speaker 1>because you'll spark again. But do kids listen? They don't listen.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta tell him a bunch of times. You gotta

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not hire them in the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe there could be Could there be a safer stunt

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Was this This individual knows how to be hit by

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<v Speaker 1>a car? Maybe fire is kind of a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Saz was very confident in her in her mentorship abilities.

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<v Speaker 1>Aren't we all? Haven't we all had that time when

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<v Speaker 1>we were very confident in our mentorship abilities as and

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<v Speaker 1>is like, oh so they weren't really ready for.

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<v Speaker 2>Them, Okay, got it. Luckily none of our kids were

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<v Speaker 2>ever set on fire.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, nor did they come back and kill us.

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<v Speaker 1>But still, well, you know, we're still on the clock

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<v Speaker 1>for that, I guess, but not yet.

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<v Speaker 2>We got some years to go for that one.

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<v Speaker 1>And we we sort of have the continuation of if

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<v Speaker 1>this were a family, Mabel would be the mom. H

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<v Speaker 1>with the nurse describing them as two old married men

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<v Speaker 1>and their caretaker.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and the way that they Charles and Oliver throughout

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<v Speaker 2>just acted like squabbling siblings while they really tried to

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<v Speaker 2>rise above it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I really, but you know, then they went off

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<v Speaker 1>on their own. I really wanted her to be there

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<v Speaker 1>to like put them in time out at something right,

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, no parties for you. The party is canceled.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't get along. If you can't agree, both sit

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<v Speaker 1>in the corner. No friends, you're grounded. These guys definitely

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<v Speaker 1>need to be grounded. That would be a very good

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<v Speaker 1>connected Maybe not till next season possible.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe not in the Arconia it seems risky. They

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<v Speaker 2>need to go back to Long.

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<v Speaker 1>Island does Oh my gosh, that would be a punishment,

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't they.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, and you know what's his name?

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<v Speaker 1>You two get along or you're going to be with

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<v Speaker 1>Charles's sister with.

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<v Speaker 2>Your auntie yep and her cop husband.

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<v Speaker 1>So oh my yes, yeah, so you better be nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Get along, Get along with each other now, no putting

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<v Speaker 1>on your space alien costumes and then yelling at each

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<v Speaker 1>other or motion capture, whatever ridiculous thing that was. This

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<v Speaker 1>makes me feel like I'm on the show, just like you're.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like one of those stories your kids tell that

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<v Speaker 1>just goes on and on and on. It makes no sense,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have to listen because you're a good parents.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're like, go just stop stop.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, good news one more week.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I'll have a nice they'll have a nice time

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<v Speaker 1>out in between meyby. Maybe they'll get back to to

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<v Speaker 1>making things that I enjoy. It's fine, it's fine. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the grumpy the grumpy dad who sits on a

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<v Speaker 1>chair and says TV. It's not like it used to

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<v Speaker 1>be used to be good stories. No good stories anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Who are all these people? I don't recognize. These people

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<v Speaker 1>just just never gets your stuff. It's the coolest look

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<v Speaker 1>at all the A listers. It's so cool. Look who

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<v Speaker 1>they got And where's the story? It's a good story.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Why did the nurse have an Irish accent? By the way, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I was suspicious because that seemed just too really.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I guess it was just so she

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<v Speaker 2>could call them out on their Irish superstitions. But that

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<v Speaker 2>seemed like a long way to go.

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<v Speaker 1>It really did, It really did. Everything in this episode

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<v Speaker 1>seemed a long.

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<v Speaker 2>Way to go though, So.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole bachelor party stick and.

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<v Speaker 2>The dressing up in the motion capture outfits for the

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<v Speaker 2>Ron Howard movies.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody thought that was such a funny idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Mabel looked cute, she did her a little like nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>forties space.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, it did not look like a movie Ron

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<v Speaker 1>Howard would have anything to do with. But okay, no,

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<v Speaker 1>apparently he was had that other movie that didn't work

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<v Speaker 1>out so well. Seemed also to be unlikely, but whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't that cute?

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that fun?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? And also wouldn't if if the alleged screenwriter was

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<v Speaker 2>like so mad, why wouldn't they have gone after Ron

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<v Speaker 2>Howard instead of Saz. I guess it was because Sas

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<v Speaker 2>wrote a script.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know. So the script was with the beer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know how that.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was just loosen the refrigerator there, but she,

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<v Speaker 1>uh Oliver did say that Saz gave him the beer.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, so I missed that. Yeah it was. It

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<v Speaker 1>All right, that makes sense, yes, all right, So that

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<v Speaker 2>I guess she brought that to the rat party from yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>or she brought that to the party the night she

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<v Speaker 2>was killed, right right, Yeah, I lost track of how

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<v Speaker 2>that got there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's such a tightly plotted thing. How could you ever

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<v Speaker 1>All the pieces fall into place. So great. Oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody's murdered Catherine.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody that somebody's murdering me with it rogue sip of tea?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, what's in the day?

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<v Speaker 2>What's in the tea? Is there a script? In tiny

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<v Speaker 2>little pieces by the tea bag?

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<v Speaker 1>I want to take over the podcast, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>have sent you some boys at date.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's now it's catching it's not that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>moh no, you're all right, Yeah, it'll be good.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, there's nobody skulking away waiting for their going to

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<v Speaker 1>get a pillow to put over your face, the old

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<v Speaker 1>pillow trick.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, since when our hospitals so porous, I mean with

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, they got the threesome, got gate keeped the

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<v Speaker 1>first time. But the murderer is able to just slip

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<v Speaker 1>on in well just yeah. It's almost like this is

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<v Speaker 1>a TV show that can do whatever it wants.

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<v Speaker 5>Funny how yeah, all right, all right, maybe we had

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<v Speaker 5>another glimpse of bev melon yes, ending up something revolting.

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<v Speaker 1>It was red bull and was that chocolate or what

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<v Speaker 1>was that other thing she put?

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<v Speaker 2>I think that was like like beef jerky, like oh gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>and there was a big bowl of kale on the table,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't know she put.

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<v Speaker 1>Any Yuck yuck, yuck Hollywood people, ye yuck.

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<v Speaker 2>God, they're so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody's getting all their aggression out through these scripts. Who's

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<v Speaker 1>writing these only murders in the building scripts. Maybe they're

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<v Speaker 1>the killer. They seem to have some issues.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's who they've said, it's it is at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh huh. Then that means that Saz's whole like murder

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<v Speaker 2>Wall situation on her desk was just her plotting the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well that makes sense. It makes sense that she

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<v Speaker 1>would have written it.

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<v Speaker 2>Mabel does the classic thing of like, you're alone with

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<v Speaker 2>this person in your apartment and you accuse them basically.

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<v Speaker 1>Of murder, like, girl, get them out first. There's somebody

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<v Speaker 1>said of her, here, your hobby is chasing murderers. You

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<v Speaker 1>would think she would know by now. Yeah, possibly the

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<v Speaker 1>other Westies will.

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<v Speaker 2>Come to a rescue. Oh yeah, that would be a nice.

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<v Speaker 1>A nice uh resolution of that whole whole plot distraction

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<v Speaker 1>that actually over there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that's what it's going to have to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>That must that must be why they had her do

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<v Speaker 2>that stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness.

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<v Speaker 6>This season seriously, Yes, some some moments of fun, but yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>when you look back at season one, like.

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<v Speaker 2>The twists and the way I mean yeah, the way

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<v Speaker 2>they had the episode with death character like it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Just seemed to be a little more ambitious and now

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like, hey, we're a success.

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<v Speaker 2>Look a week on.

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<v Speaker 1>And Okay, I mean I like all these people good

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<v Speaker 1>for them, high five, But it's not as satisfying.

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<v Speaker 2>No, And do we think it was like a big

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<v Speaker 2>part of it was you didn't know, We didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>the characters, we didn't know the people in the building. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so we were learning all that at the same time

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<v Speaker 2>as we figure out I guess done it.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I don't know. Maybe just a I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a victim of its success, whether in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>having all these celebrities have it that they have to

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<v Speaker 1>write around, or just that we're used to it now.

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<v Speaker 1>But either way, I mean, I don't hate it, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wincing as much as I'm laughing, which is probably

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<v Speaker 1>not what they're going for.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, probably probably not. Well, one more week, Terry. Next

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<v Speaker 2>week we will and now.

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<v Speaker 1>We can watch Shrinking, which I'm really excited about.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's what you really Yeah, so yeah, next week

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<v Speaker 2>will be this season four finale of Holy Murders in

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<v Speaker 2>the Building. It is called My best Friend's Wedding.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course it is, of course it is. What else

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<v Speaker 1>would it be called?

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<v Speaker 2>And we'll see you back here tomorrow for our weekly

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