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<v Speaker 1>Here it is night first one with a forecast. Got

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<v Speaker 1>night down to fifty one. Sunday's guys, Tomorrow sixty two

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<v Speaker 1>with clear skies over night thirty seven for the low

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<v Speaker 1>and another sunny day on Sunday, highest sixty.

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<v Speaker 2>Three forty eighth degrees.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, time for traffick update Chuck Ingram.

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<v Speaker 3>accident after Western Avenue. Chuck Ingram on fifty five KRC

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<v Speaker 3>the talk station. It is eight twenty nine. If you

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<v Speaker 3>got k see the talk station.

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<v Speaker 1>A very happy Friday to you and in studio, and

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<v Speaker 1>I always love when folks come in studio makes it

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<v Speaker 1>a lot easier to have a conversation, and a conversation

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<v Speaker 1>we will have with Jeff Baker. He is running for

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<v Speaker 1>Hamilton County Treasurer. Sometimes not an office people paying a

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<v Speaker 1>real close attention to, particularly in a presidential year when

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<v Speaker 1>the news is dominated by you know, Bernie Marino, Sherif Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course Trump and Harris. But we do have

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<v Speaker 1>down ballot races, including the all important Hamilton County prosecutor race.

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<v Speaker 1>Go please and vote for status quo here we need

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<v Speaker 1>to keep Melissa Powers. But in studio running for Hamilton

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<v Speaker 1>County Treasurer, Jeff Baker. It's a pleasure to have you here, sir.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>Brian appreciate the opportunity to come out and introduce myself

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<v Speaker 4>and talk a little bit about my campaign to those

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<v Speaker 4>who may not know who I am.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if you want to find out more about Jeff,

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<v Speaker 1>just go to Facebook and type in Jeff Baker for

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<v Speaker 1>Hamilton County treasure It'll pop right up.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll get that.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's dive in your background qualifications for treasurer. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me hear what you got to say about that and

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<v Speaker 1>satisfy my listeners.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Well, first of all, a little bit about myself.

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<v Speaker 4>I am in my second term as Corean Township fiscal officer.

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<v Speaker 4>I am a Christian father of two beautiful young ladies

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<v Speaker 4>eight years old and thirteen years old, a husband, and

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<v Speaker 4>I have over thirty years experience in business and finance,

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<v Speaker 4>so it kind of goes back to runs the gamut

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<v Speaker 4>from banking to insurance. I was a small business owner

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<v Speaker 4>for a while, and I've been involved in government here

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<v Speaker 4>locally for about thirteen years.

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<v Speaker 1>Fair enough, sounds me a good financial background. Well enough anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>But let me ask you this. As Hamilton County Treasurer,

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<v Speaker 1>you obviously running for a reason. You see something that's amiss.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you see that needs to be trained, ins form, change,

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<v Speaker 1>or otherwise made better through let's say your leadership?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, For first of all, the Treasurer's office currently is

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<v Speaker 4>in dire need of professional leadership. And why I say

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<v Speaker 4>that is you know, there are three main characteristics of

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<v Speaker 4>the Treasurer's office. There is obviously the proper collection of

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<v Speaker 4>property taxes, the safe keeping of those property taxes, and

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<v Speaker 4>the proper disbursement. So whether that disbursement is going to

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<v Speaker 4>the local school district or the zoo or the library

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<v Speaker 4>or where wherever it may be. You have to ensure

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<v Speaker 4>that the correct funds are going to the proper disbursement.

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<v Speaker 4>So I want to key on a couple of things.

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<v Speaker 4>First of all, I think that there's a lack of

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<v Speaker 4>transparency in the office. I think that Hamilton County property

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<v Speaker 4>tax owners have a right to know where the funds

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<v Speaker 4>are sitting, where they're being what they're being invested in,

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<v Speaker 4>and if they're properly kept safe. And it's come to

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<v Speaker 4>my attention, well it's public record, but there is currently

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<v Speaker 4>a case in Common Police Court where an employee has

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<v Speaker 4>been indicted on felony theft charges. And you know, you

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<v Speaker 4>can't necessarily blame the leadership for someone that's going to steal.

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<v Speaker 4>But what I believe you can do is do a

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<v Speaker 4>better job of having safety nets in place to keep

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<v Speaker 4>those employees from being able to steal, such as being

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<v Speaker 4>able to run void receipts. Someone comes in and makes

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<v Speaker 4>a cash payment for their property taxes. That person that's

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<v Speaker 4>taking that property tax payment should not have the ability

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<v Speaker 4>to put that cash in the drawer and later in

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<v Speaker 4>the day run a void receipt for that transaction and

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<v Speaker 4>pocket the money, and oh wow, that can be done

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<v Speaker 4>under the current it can and has. Is that the

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<v Speaker 4>allegation involved in the suit you're referring to, Oh okay,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's actually not a law suit. It's actually a

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<v Speaker 4>felony theft charge.

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<v Speaker 1>Well stated, it's a criminal charge.

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<v Speaker 4>So not only that, but I've also heard from people

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<v Speaker 4>regarding this case that have tried to request public records

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<v Speaker 4>and they've been ignored. You know, as a as a

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<v Speaker 4>fiscal officer in Corny Township, I can tell you that

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<v Speaker 4>you can't just ignore public records requests.

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<v Speaker 2>We get a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure other townships do as well, but I respond

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<v Speaker 4>probably to about five hundred public records requests a year,

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<v Speaker 4>so I know how important it is, and I know

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<v Speaker 4>the ramifications of not providing those.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I was just gonna say, there are I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there are laws on the books that obligate you to

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<v Speaker 1>respond to public relectate records requests within a certain time

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<v Speaker 1>parameter are there not.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a little vague in terms of specific time, but

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<v Speaker 4>it's within a reasonable manner, and when you're talking about

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<v Speaker 4>the county level, that reasonable manner should be pretty quickly.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, this this allegation happened back in February and

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't reported until April, So you got to question yourself

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<v Speaker 4>as to why it took so long for anything to

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<v Speaker 4>be done about it. And if I could add a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit to that, you know, the current treasure has

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<v Speaker 4>been in office for less than four years, and I

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<v Speaker 4>think back of the twenty or so years that the

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<v Speaker 4>previous treasurer was in office, Robert Gerring, and I can't

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<v Speaker 4>think of a single time that someone was indicted on

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<v Speaker 4>filling and theft charges because it didn't happen, right, So

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<v Speaker 4>it boils down to and again, you know, you can't

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<v Speaker 4>blame any individual for someone else winning to steal. But

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<v Speaker 4>what you have to do is you have to be

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<v Speaker 4>more involved. Best practices, yes, and you have to have

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<v Speaker 4>safety nets in place to keep them from being able

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<v Speaker 4>to do so. And as a treasurer, I could tell

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<v Speaker 4>you I will do that. I will make sure that

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<v Speaker 4>you can't print avoid receipt. I'll do that on day one.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like a simple solution. Tell you what.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll pause, we take a break here, we'll continue with

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Baker running for Hamilton County Treasurer again. Check them

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<v Speaker 1>out online at Jeff Baker four, Hamilton County Treasurer on Facebook.

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<v Speaker 1>Stick around right here fifty five k SE.

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<v Speaker 4>The Talk station fifty five KRC, Vote for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>There it is.

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<v Speaker 1>In my first twenty one forecast, we have a partly

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<v Speaker 1>cloudy day to day, possible isolated rain in the highest

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<v Speaker 1>seventy four every night, down a fifty one, partly cloudy skies,

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<v Speaker 1>sunny the weekend. Both days will be SUNNYCA high of

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<v Speaker 1>sixty three on Sunday and sandwich in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>overnight low of thirty seven with clear skies forty eight

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<v Speaker 1>degrees Right now. Traffic time.

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<v Speaker 3>Chuck Ingram on fifty five KRC, The Talk station.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, thirty eight and fifty five krs the talk station.

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<v Speaker 1>Hope you're having a wonderful Friday. We've you got some

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<v Speaker 1>great plans going on for the weekend too. Oh and

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<v Speaker 1>real quick here before you get back to Jeff Baker,

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<v Speaker 1>who is running for Hamilton County treasure My friend Maureen

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to remind folks, and I'm certain she is accurate

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<v Speaker 1>that the Bernie Marino Tucker Carlson event, which originally was

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<v Speaker 1>slated to kick off at doors open at noon, kicking

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<v Speaker 1>off at one. Now she told me the doors are

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<v Speaker 1>actually opening at eleven and the event begins at noon.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're planning on going to that, you got

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<v Speaker 1>to arrive on early. You have to RSVP and check

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<v Speaker 1>in and all that. So I just want to let

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<v Speaker 1>you know, put a little of that out there as

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<v Speaker 1>valuable information so you're not late. Back to Jeff Baker

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<v Speaker 1>on his page at Facebook, Jeff Baker for Hamlon County

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<v Speaker 1>treasure Treasurer is not responsible for setting the tax rate.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you just pick? You just the collector, right, That's

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<v Speaker 2>that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't want to go to bibylical references

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<v Speaker 1>about tax collectors, but you didn't set the rate of taxes.

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<v Speaker 2>That is true, That is true, or what you won't.

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<v Speaker 1>Set or be your treasure does not.

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<v Speaker 2>I should more properly say.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right, and as Hamilton County treasure I won't for

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<v Speaker 4>those listening who think, oh I know that guy, he

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<v Speaker 4>can help me out of my tax bill. There isn't

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<v Speaker 4>anything that the Treasure can do regarding what the taxes

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<v Speaker 4>are assessed at. However, I feel like there is an

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<v Speaker 4>ability for the Treasure to be an advocate for those

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<v Speaker 4>property owners. And when I say that is because it's

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<v Speaker 4>up to the Treasure when those assessments are collected and

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<v Speaker 4>if someone has a dispute, which a lot of people

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<v Speaker 4>will have recently regarding the twenty twenty three assessments. When

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<v Speaker 4>you have people who have those disputes, I think that

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<v Speaker 4>it should be a common practice to allow them to

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<v Speaker 4>go through the dispute process before paying that property tax

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<v Speaker 4>and not having to just go ahead and pay it

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<v Speaker 4>and say, okay, we'll figure it out later.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems to be the proper order of things. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a time value of money in that homeowner can

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<v Speaker 1>keep the money in his or her possession until the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing's adjudicated.

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<v Speaker 2>So I like that idea.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right, and and the the current Treasurer is telling

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<v Speaker 4>those individuals that, you know, there's nothing I can do,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the state requires me to collect these in

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<v Speaker 4>a certain and a certain time print that that that

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<v Speaker 4>actually is inaccurate. In fact, the the assessment appeal process

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<v Speaker 4>has set timelines as well, and those are being delayed.

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<v Speaker 4>So if the assessment, uh, you know, reevaluations per se

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<v Speaker 4>can be put off, then so can the payments. And

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<v Speaker 4>I think that that's where the advocacy of the current

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<v Speaker 4>treasures is falling short. And I think you have to

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<v Speaker 4>be you have to understand, you know, when when she

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<v Speaker 4>makes a blanket statement that, oh, they're only they've only

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<v Speaker 4>gone up ten percent, well, I don't know where that

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<v Speaker 4>figure is coming from, because mine went up more.

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<v Speaker 1>Than Yeah, a lot of people had a thirty percent bump,

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<v Speaker 1>some even more.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, it's it's it's it's been extreme. And I believe

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<v Speaker 4>there will be you know, some laws in place to

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<v Speaker 4>limit those with at the state house level. But we

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, like, no more than x percent in any

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, that's right, And it's it.

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<v Speaker 4>looks to me like it's a cash crab. Well, we'll

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<v Speaker 4>correct it later, we'll lower them later, but in the

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<v Speaker 4>meantime we're going to collect a little bit of extra money.

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<v Speaker 4>And I don't know, you know, I don't have any

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and I personally don't have any proof whatsoever that

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<v Speaker 1>the valuation of the property. Sure, they got comps in

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<v Speaker 1>and have your taxes lowered. My dad used to take

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<v Speaker 1>advantage of that. He's dead now, so he's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to have to suffer any consequences. But there was cronyism

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<v Speaker 1>though the news is really really bad for the tax payer.

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<v Speaker 4>Going back to the transparency issue, though, I think if

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<v Speaker 4>you go online to the treasure's office, there is little

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<v Speaker 4>it's being invested in, or how it's being dispersed. In fact,

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<v Speaker 4>I would argue that the only thing that you will

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<v Speaker 4>a nice picture of the current treasure I think taxpayers

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<v Speaker 4>invested in, where they sit, when they're being dispersed. And

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<v Speaker 4>when you log on. It will show something else that's

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<v Speaker 4>that's nicer looking, you know, maybe a picture of the

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<v Speaker 1>Like that I always joke I have a face for radio.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's like here, hell's let's focus for a

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<v Speaker 1>moment on this whole component of investment because I asked

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<v Speaker 1>you off, Mike, I said, are these in fact investment invested?

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<v Speaker 1>And you said yes, and of course subject to rules

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<v Speaker 1>and regulations and whys and wherefores. But you know, much

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<v Speaker 1>like the railroad sale resulted in the money being placed

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<v Speaker 1>in an investment account and hopefully it makes a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of money and interest for the city, these dollars just

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<v Speaker 1>pile waiting for it to be dispersed. They're actually invested.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you Does the Treasurer have control over who manages

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<v Speaker 1>those funds in the investments?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, part of the part of the safe keeping aspect

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<v Speaker 4>of the Treasure's office is making sure that the funds

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<v Speaker 4>some return on them. But there are limits, and there

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<v Speaker 4>are many regulations as to what you can invest those in,

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<v Speaker 4>what type of funds you can invest those in.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so.

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose within the limits that you mentioned there the

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<v Speaker 1>legal limits. Okay, you can only invest in this type

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, double A rated whatever kind of fund.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have control over where the money is invested

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<v Speaker 1>within the confines of the law, sure, okay, yes you would.

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<v Speaker 1>And investment advisors are they retained to do this or

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<v Speaker 4>And and and again those are those are limited to

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<v Speaker 4>you do have certain decisions that you can make as

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<v Speaker 4>You just have to be careful and you're limited to

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<v Speaker 1>So you're running on a campaign of transparency and I

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<v Speaker 4>Right and and being available again, I've i've I've seen

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<v Speaker 4>reports and heard from people personally. You know, when you're

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<v Speaker 4>when you're putting yourself out there and you're running for

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<v Speaker 4>an office and you know, uh, someone else has an

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<v Speaker 4>objection to how that office is being run, you get

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<v Speaker 4>contacted by people, and I've I've I've been contacted by

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<v Speaker 4>individuals who have said, look, I've tried to reach out

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<v Speaker 4>and speak to the treasure and they've flat up. Untild

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<v Speaker 4>there's there's under no circumstances will you be able to

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<v Speaker 4>speak with the Hamilton County treasure And I told you

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<v Speaker 4>off air too. I know that it's not possible just

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<v Speaker 4>to say, Okay, I'm just gonna sit around and I'll

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<v Speaker 4>let anybody contact me whenever they want. That's not you know,

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<v Speaker 4>that's not that possible either. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 4>I would never sit here and say can't talk, you

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<v Speaker 4>will make sure that ham Much County property tax payers

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<v Speaker 4>they need to have a conversation. I will make myself

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<v Speaker 4>I can assure you that I will make myself available

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<v Speaker 1>All right, And back to your point about not having

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<v Speaker 1>to pay the tax bill. While your claim for lowering

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<v Speaker 1>the tax rate is being adjudicated, that review process, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the review is done.

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<v Speaker 2>By the Auditor's office.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct, Correct, So you would have to coordinate and play

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<v Speaker 1>nicely with the Auditor's office to accomplish your goal, because

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<v Speaker 1>I suspect that would force the auditor to have to

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<v Speaker 4>There's a board that that does that as well, and

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<v Speaker 4>the auditor is part of that. Yes, and quite honestly,

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<v Speaker 4>the auditor and treasurer work very closely together on a

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<v Speaker 4>daily imagine, on a daily basis, so when a cash

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<v Speaker 4>strawers turned in each day at the Treasurer's office, that

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<v Speaker 4>those funds are are double checked and accounted for also

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<v Speaker 2>So they work that closely together.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of the the programs that are used are

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<v Speaker 4>There's I would be working very closely with the Hamley

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<v Speaker 4>County Auditor to ensure that the money is where.

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<v Speaker 2>It's supposed to be and it's being invested in where

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<v Speaker 4>I just I just feel like the the Hamilton County

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<v Speaker 4>property tax payers should be able to see that as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, fair enough, it's our money, we certainly should I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a firm believer in transparency, maybe even more than some

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<v Speaker 1>people are even comfortable with. And so before we part company,

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Baker again, it's Jeff Baker for Hamilton Treasurer Online.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember one of the things Dusty Rhodes. He ran

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<v Speaker 1>as a Democrat. We all know dust he's probably more

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<v Speaker 1>conservative than most Republicans in a listening audience, but he

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<v Speaker 1>was able to shrink the size of his office through

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<v Speaker 1>natural attrition. He thought they were overstaffed. He didn't go

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<v Speaker 1>around just firing everyone, but when people left, he didn't replace,

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<v Speaker 1>So the place got smaller, but it also got more efficient.

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<v Speaker 1>So my question to you is do you perceive the

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<v Speaker 1>Treasure's office as having is overstaffed like so many government

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<v Speaker 1>offices are. Do you believe it'd be adequately staffed right

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<v Speaker 1>now or is it something that you'd have to look

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<v Speaker 4>Probably the latter statement. I think I would have to

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<v Speaker 4>evaluate that when I'm there. It's not exactly a huge

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<v Speaker 4>office at the moment. Anyway, twenty some employees, I want

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<v Speaker 4>to say, but again, there's no organizational chart online, so

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<v Speaker 4>you really can't find that information out well, or the.

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<v Speaker 2>Budget for that matter.

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<v Speaker 4>But that would certainly be as someone that is considers

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<v Speaker 4>himself very fiscally conservative, that would certainly be one of

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<v Speaker 4>the very first areas I would look at to see

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<v Speaker 4>if there's a way to save money, because the money

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<v Speaker 4>that you're saving in that office ultimately goes back to

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<v Speaker 4>the taxpayers of Hamilton County and exactly, and that's what

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<v Speaker 4>your responsibility is as a treasurer.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I should have established at the outset that you

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<v Speaker 1>are fiscally responsible and that motivates you, because I just

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<v Speaker 1>took it for granted. Ed Ye, how you got the

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<v Speaker 1>Hamilton Kunty Republican endorsement? You are on the pink slip right.

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<v Speaker 2>I am, And I'm also endorsed by the FOP.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wonderful, that always is a solid endorsement here on

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<v Speaker 1>the fifty five KC Morning Show because we do love

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<v Speaker 1>our law enforcement officers. Well, Jeff, I wish you all

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<v Speaker 1>the best rapidly approaching the election we are, but given

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<v Speaker 1>the seemingly more conservative shift the nation might be going

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<v Speaker 1>through right now, got a good chance of winning. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you do, I sure hope you do a great

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<v Speaker 1>job as the Hamilton County treasure.

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<v Speaker 4>I certainly appreciate it and I look forward to being

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<v Speaker 4>hamlet I know you do.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Baker. Great having you in the studio, and thanks

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<v Speaker 1>again for the effort on that one. Folks will have

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of minutes left when we get back, and

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<v Speaker 1>we will be back in just a couple of minutes.

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<v Speaker 4>Stay right here at fifty five Karsiti Talk Station fifty

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<v Speaker 4>five KRC some
