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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a threat to the state Capitol right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Lawmakers and staff members who evacuated from the Capitol building

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<v Speaker 2>in Sacramento this morning after a threat was made. According

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<v Speaker 2>to a message, Senate staff are sent to one of

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<v Speaker 2>the TV stations there in Sacramento, and I was just

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<v Speaker 2>watching their coverage of it. They still don't know much

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<v Speaker 2>about what's going on. According to a message that was

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<v Speaker 2>sent to staff in the state Senate, law enforcement was

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<v Speaker 2>working to determine if the threat was credible. So everybody

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<v Speaker 2>that works there in the Senate side, especially because I

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<v Speaker 2>guess the Assembly was not in session and they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have very many workers there. Legislative staff have been asked

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<v Speaker 2>to leave the capitol. Basically, hey, it's a free Friday

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<v Speaker 2>for you to go home and work from home. Gavin

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<v Speaker 2>Newsom is not in Sacramento today, so he wasn't at

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<v Speaker 2>the capitol.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously, he's here in southern California.

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<v Speaker 2>Most of the state lawmakers are currently in their districts,

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<v Speaker 2>so it was otherwise a relatively quiet day that is

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<v Speaker 2>until this threat apparently came in. So the Capitol building

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<v Speaker 2>up in Sacramento is being evacuated right now. There was

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<v Speaker 2>an anthrax threat back in May. You'd mentioned that there

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<v Speaker 2>had been no previous threats. There was one back in May,

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<v Speaker 2>and the easiest way, obviously for them to go through

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<v Speaker 2>and make sure that nothing is untoward is to get

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<v Speaker 2>everybody out of the building and go through and search it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's great about that video, the way you

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<v Speaker 1>make me feel as it starts with that thriller vibe,

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<v Speaker 1>like lowly lit alley nighttime. Is he a good guy?

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<v Speaker 1>Or is he a bad guy? And then it quickly

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<v Speaker 1>becomes this like love song.

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<v Speaker 2>A man with a sash is almost never a bad guy?

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<v Speaker 1>But pirates? What kind of pirates? But comma pirates? Question mark?

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<v Speaker 3>All right, bottom of the hour.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, we're going to be talking about this

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<v Speaker 2>guy that jumped out of a van up in Delano.

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<v Speaker 3>He's still gone, right, Caesar, Caesar. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then later the La Times says it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>start publishing a bias meter on all.

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<v Speaker 3>Of its articles. It's an interesting way to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but how do you trust who was running the bias.

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<v Speaker 3>Meter who watches the watchers.

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<v Speaker 1>I was watching or I was reading through Bill Clinton

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<v Speaker 1>interview this morning, and he said nobody timely. Well, he

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about the state of the Democratic Party and

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<v Speaker 1>what he thinks, and he doesn't like the Biden part

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<v Speaker 1>in either. He said, you know, I wish that he

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't deny that he was going to do it repeatedly.

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<v Speaker 1>He should have just shut up about it and then

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<v Speaker 1>just done it, you know. But I guess that was

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<v Speaker 1>up to Corne Jean Pierre to answer that question every

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<v Speaker 1>freaking day. You know, what else is she going to say?

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<v Speaker 1>Stay tuned. But he talked about how nobody trusts anyone anymore. Democrats,

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans can't trust anyone because it lied to us so

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<v Speaker 1>much and so recently. All Right, So authorities up in

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<v Speaker 1>Butte County now do say they know I know the

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<v Speaker 1>identity of the shooter who staged the attack on that small,

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<v Speaker 1>tiny Christian elementary school that left two children wounded, ended

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<v Speaker 1>with the shooter dead.

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<v Speaker 2>Fifty six year old guy named Glenn Lytton, homeless, mentally ill,

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<v Speaker 2>long criminal record in the Bay Area, and apparently targeted

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<v Speaker 2>the school because of its affiliation with the Seventh Day

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<v Speaker 2>Adventist Church, and like you said, died after he shot

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<v Speaker 2>himself after he shot the kids. But they said they

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<v Speaker 2>found a statement by this guy saying that child executions

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<v Speaker 2>were imposed at that school in response to America's involvements

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<v Speaker 2>in genocide and oppression of Palestinians and attacks in Yemen.

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<v Speaker 1>The two injured kindergarteners five year old Elias who shot

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<v Speaker 1>once was shot once in the abdomen, and six year

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<v Speaker 1>old Roman, who sustained two gun shots resulting in internal injuries.

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<v Speaker 1>Both boys are in critical condition and the.

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<v Speaker 2>Sheriff said that they both have very long roads to recovery.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very likely they're going to have multiple surgeries going forward.

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<v Speaker 2>And the fact that they're currently still with us, it's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much a miracle. I mean, they have the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that their children, their tiny bodies, probably works in their favor,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean just in terms of the ability of a

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<v Speaker 2>kid's body to respond, to grow, to continue to get better.

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<v Speaker 2>But man, just to terrifying. They said that one Elias,

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<v Speaker 2>the five year old, the bullet went through his chest

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<v Speaker 2>and his abdomen, and it pierced or nicked multiple organs

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<v Speaker 2>before it exited. He simply had to go to surgery

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<v Speaker 2>if nothing else, just to stop the bleeding. And they

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<v Speaker 2>said that he's on a pediatric intensive care unit obviously

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<v Speaker 2>awaiting additional surgery. So they've started to go fundmes to

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<v Speaker 2>help cover his medical expenses. Again, this is a tiny,

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<v Speaker 2>tiny school, and we mentioned this yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>There were thirty five forty kids there. That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Where's that guy getting this weird mind infiltration that it

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<v Speaker 1>was a child? Executions were imposed at the school, like

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<v Speaker 1>where's he coming up with that? Does he read something?

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<v Speaker 1>And then he goes through the twisted pathways of his

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<v Speaker 1>broken brain and comes out with that kind of order.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, all of that, Yeah, ad sprinkle on top of

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<v Speaker 2>that some probably significant drug use and frying all of

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<v Speaker 2>the synapses that we're putting together, and loses all logic

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<v Speaker 2>at that point.

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<v Speaker 1>Hannah Kobyashi's family is so thirsty? Is this the thirstiest

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<v Speaker 1>family that ever lived? Wanting all this attention? Apparently they're

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<v Speaker 1>tearing themselves apart over who should get the limelight and

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<v Speaker 1>what to do with the money they fundraised for their

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<v Speaker 1>non missing family member. Gary and Shannon will continue, Amy King.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to point out this is also Friday, right,

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<v Speaker 2>which means we do what you learned this week on

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<v Speaker 2>The Gary and Shannon Show. Yes, you can leave us

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<v Speaker 2>a talkback message when you're listening on the app. Hit

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<v Speaker 2>leave us the questions that you'd like to ask handle.

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<v Speaker 2>Just leave us the what you learned this week on

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<v Speaker 2>the Gary and Shannon Show.

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<v Speaker 3>Just like that. Hey Gary, Hey Shannon, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm four years old.

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<v Speaker 2>That butt pirate comment made made me laugh pretty hard

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm I'm a little bit of a butt pirate myself.

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<v Speaker 2>After that booty, can I get the show me the booty?

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<v Speaker 4>Look at that booty.

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<v Speaker 3>Yet, show me the boot I will the booty?

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<v Speaker 4>Back up the booty? I need the booty. I like.

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<v Speaker 3>The point was the comment was butt comma pirate?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? Is a butt pirate?

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<v Speaker 3>Though we don't talk, we don't say that, we don't

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<v Speaker 3>say that.

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<v Speaker 1>He said he brought it back up. I'm just asking

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<v Speaker 1>a follow up, Tama, I'm asking pirate. Follow up? Is

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<v Speaker 1>a butt pirate somebody who likes the booty? Or and

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of booty are we talking about? Are we

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<v Speaker 1>talking about?

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<v Speaker 4>Show me the booty?

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<v Speaker 5>Give me.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be a treasure. That's what yes, okay? Is

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<v Speaker 1>that why where pirates go? Is that why bots are

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<v Speaker 1>called booty? Because it's it's like a I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying to figure it out.

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<v Speaker 3>Such a wise woman in so many ways, but also

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<v Speaker 3>not Roberts from Sydney, Australia. I love listening to your station,

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<v Speaker 3>two of you that I listened to in the morning. Here,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm fantastic to listen to Thanks, Australia's number one morning show.

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<v Speaker 1>That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, good morning, Garyan Shannon. This is Mike from the

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<v Speaker 5>High Desert. Hey, I just wanted to wish my wife

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<v Speaker 5>a happy birthday. Today is her birthday and she is

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<v Speaker 5>the most important thing to me in this world.

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<v Speaker 3>Get it?

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<v Speaker 5>So maybe my KFI family could wish her a happy

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<v Speaker 5>birthday too.

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<v Speaker 4>Her name is Yvonne. I love you, honey.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I love you too, Yvonne. Happy Britt. Don't tell

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<v Speaker 1>another man's wife you love her on her.

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<v Speaker 3>I love her that she makes him feel that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true. That's good. That's a good clarification. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to sing to Yvonne? Sure?

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<v Speaker 4>Dad, Booty showed me the booty, Give me the booty.

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<v Speaker 3>I want the booty.

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<v Speaker 4>Back up the booty. I need the booty.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the booty.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh the booty.

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<v Speaker 1>All right enough, okay, So the girl that, allegedly, first

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<v Speaker 1>of all, is not a girl. She's thirty. Second of all,

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<v Speaker 1>allegedly went missing from Hawaii on her way to New York,

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<v Speaker 1>stopped in LA, didn't make her connecting flight. Hannah Kobyashi

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<v Speaker 1>is her name. The family starts screaming from the rooftops

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<v Speaker 1>that that she is missing and we need to help

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<v Speaker 1>to find her, despite the fact that she's seen just

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<v Speaker 1>living her life on surveillance video around to La. Her

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<v Speaker 1>her dad comes out here jumps off a roof near

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<v Speaker 1>Lax to his death. That was odd as well. They

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<v Speaker 1>were able to fifty thousand dollars in go fundme money.

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<v Speaker 1>The family was the laped this week. Came out and said, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got surveillance footage of her a living her life

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<v Speaker 1>and be crossing into Mexico willingly on her own luggage

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<v Speaker 1>in tow. So we think she's just voluntarily missing. She

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<v Speaker 1>just chose to go missing from y'all. Well, now the

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<v Speaker 1>family is trying to figure out and they're fighting about it,

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<v Speaker 1>how to spend all that money they raised.

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<v Speaker 2>There are a couple of GoFundMe pages. About fifty thousand

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<v Speaker 2>dollars have been raised in two separate pages. One of

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<v Speaker 2>them was to help look for Hannah, the other was

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<v Speaker 2>to help the family after dad committed suicide. Go fund

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<v Speaker 2>Me says neither one of those pages violates any sort

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<v Speaker 2>of term of service or anything like that, so they

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<v Speaker 2>don't have a problem with it. But one of the ants,

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<v Speaker 2>Lorie Pigeon, says there's some major tension over what happens

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<v Speaker 2>next with that money, especially the part where there was

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<v Speaker 2>money raised to help find her and she don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to be found, at least according to the LAPD.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that wild that you can raise that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>cash for somebody who's not even missing and then just

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<v Speaker 1>get to spend it on whatever you want. Is it

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<v Speaker 1>the media's fault that we gave this story so much

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<v Speaker 1>attention when it wasn't really a missing person. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just kind of curious as to why a family

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<v Speaker 1>would do this, and maybe we're looking right at it.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's for money.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you go back to the genesis of why we

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<v Speaker 2>would do a story in the first place. One of

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<v Speaker 2>the first impression was she may have been in danger

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<v Speaker 2>like this may been somebody who was at risk.

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<v Speaker 1>There's missing people all the time in Los Angeles, and

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't catch on, it doesn't rise to that level.

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<v Speaker 2>But then it became the story of a woman who

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<v Speaker 2>appears to have wanted to get away from her family,

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<v Speaker 2>and her family just keeps getting closer to her.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I like that you have learned so much

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<v Speaker 1>from the Denise Huskins rule that you are still leaving

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<v Speaker 1>it that option open. Well listen, that she could have

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<v Speaker 1>been nefariously directed absconded with.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, there is this that was a massive, massive issue,

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<v Speaker 2>a big rule. And when we came full circle and

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<v Speaker 2>actually spoke to Denise Huskins about her ordeal and what

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but this one, this one, I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 3>This one, you're sure, all right?

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<v Speaker 2>When we come back, more more information about this guy

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<v Speaker 2>who's still on the road on looking for an escape

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<v Speaker 2>we are still following that story. Lawmakers up in Sacramento

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<v Speaker 3>Do just that.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a suspicious package that was delivered back in May,

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<v Speaker 2>A judge has told a jury to keep deliberating.

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<v Speaker 1>Prosecutors say, well, this guy went too far with his

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<v Speaker 1>choke hold grip. If his intention was to avoid this

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<v Speaker 1>homeless guy hurting people on the subway. How do you convict?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know, and I'm surprised that they've even gone.

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<v Speaker 1>That they brought the case exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, a federal appeals court has upheld a law that

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<v Speaker 2>would force TikTok's Chinese parent company to divest or face

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<v Speaker 1>The manhunt continues in New York or to find the

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<v Speaker 1>a bus from Atlanta ten days before the murder. There

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<v Speaker 1>is surveillance photo showing nearly his whole face that surfaced

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday while smiling. Police are hoping that'll be enough for

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, good morning, Gary and Shannon. This is Jill.

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<v Speaker 6>You know what, Shennon, You're right, the booty is the treasure.

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<v Speaker 6>Both of you guys are intelligent. Love you guys a show.

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<v Speaker 6>Have ay wonderful day.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you too.

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<v Speaker 1>This week on the Gary and Shennon Show.

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<v Speaker 4>You're right, the booty is the treasure.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just trying to get through the etymology there.

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<v Speaker 1>Why did the buttocks start being called the booty? I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's fun to learn about history, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 4>His booty is a treasure.

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<v Speaker 3>I found my new tattoo.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So we do have an escaped murderer running around.

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<v Speaker 1>They are going to look for Sezar Hernandez thirty four.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the guy who jumped out of that prison

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<v Speaker 3>I believe it was Monday when he escaped.

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<v Speaker 2>But the Department of Corrections CHP other local law enforcement

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<v Speaker 2>have been looking in the Delano area since he made

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<v Speaker 2>his escape. But then yesterday they said that the people

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<v Speaker 2>in that area no longer facing a security risk because

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<v Speaker 2>they believe that he already took off, He already got

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe here he was convicted of first degree murder in

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<v Speaker 1>La County in twenty nineteen, sentenced to eighty years to

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<v Speaker 2>Not a good guy anyway, I mean eighty years because

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<v Speaker 2>he had special circumstances, a second strikes, second strike as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So since his escape, prison officials have been pretty quiet

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<v Speaker 2>about the search. They did say in a news release

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday to authorities have to strike a careful balance between

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<v Speaker 2>providing important safety information to the public while remaining while

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<v Speaker 2>maintaining confidentiality of sensitive investigative detail. They don't want this

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<v Speaker 2>guy to know how close they are to him, So

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<v Speaker 2>they're not going to say, hey, if you're in Delano,

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<v Speaker 2>keep an eye out for him, because we believe he's

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<v Speaker 2>still there.

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<v Speaker 1>Necessarily, Why don't we have any information about what he did?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I just tracked some of it down. He

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<v Speaker 1>was at one time Kerrent County's most wanted He had

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<v Speaker 1>a girlfriend, apparently who tended bar in Lynnwood here in

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<v Speaker 1>La County. They spend a lot of time there. One night,

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<v Speaker 1>after he argued with her, he chased down a pickup

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<v Speaker 1>that left the bar's parking lot, forced the truck to

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<v Speaker 1>pull over a block away, Then he shot the driver

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<v Speaker 1>in the head, so that was his murder. His girlfriend,

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<v Speaker 1>she named only as Gabby and court filings, had stopped

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<v Speaker 1>about ten pm. This was June twenty eighteen. She wanted

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<v Speaker 1>her job back. The owner agreed to rehire her. They

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<v Speaker 1>happens when you stay there the rest of the nights

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>How long would it take for you to stay in

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<v Speaker 2>a bar to get into a heated argument with your man?

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty twenty five minutes?

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<v Speaker 2>No, what would you argue with him about? He wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>argue with you. No, I know it was a joke.

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<v Speaker 3>He would get up and walk away.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a joke. He'd be smart, he would get

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<v Speaker 3>I think he would.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, Bill, booty is the treasure.

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<v Speaker 1>How long would it take you to get into a

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<v Speaker 3>I would fall asleep before that happened.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true, you would.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't get angry when I when I am.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you get quiet.

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<v Speaker 3>I can get quiet happy generally happy.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not a big get drunk gy not generally I

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<v Speaker 1>have like maybe a couple nights I can refer back

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<v Speaker 1>to when I saw your behavior. Okay, not many.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe that's good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's great. Are you kidding? It's wonderful to have that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of self control. Did you hear about Wisdom?

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<v Speaker 3>I've heard of it.

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<v Speaker 1>The world's oldest known wild bird is named Wisdom. That

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know, And Wisdom is going to be a

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<v Speaker 3>How do they know if it's a wild bird?

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<v Speaker 4>How old?

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<v Speaker 3>How do they know it's the old?

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<v Speaker 1>Go on, don't be skeptical. Sorry, I'm just you can

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<v Speaker 1>tell by counting its rings. You could chop it in

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<v Speaker 1>half and count the rings. According to the US Fish

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<v Speaker 1>and Wildlife Service, a seventy four year old laysan albatross

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<v Speaker 1>named Wisdom has laid an egg. It happened November twenty

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<v Speaker 1>seventh in the Pacific Ocean. Researchers say they expect the

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<v Speaker 1>egg to hatch in around two months, making Wisdom a

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<v Speaker 1>That is a big researchers estimate. Wisdom has flown around

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<v Speaker 1>three point seven million miles throughout her life. Frequent flyer Miles,

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<v Speaker 1>who's hooking up with a seventy four year old bird?

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<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>What that reeks of desperation, doesn't it? Why that's an

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<v Speaker 2>old bird? Maybe it's a seventy three year old bird?

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<v Speaker 2>Hook on hod a bird's age?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they ate?

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<v Speaker 3>How do they age?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm curious as like dogs, you know, like what would

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<v Speaker 1>Of what is a seventy four year old bird compared

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<v Speaker 1>to a human? How old is a bird in human year?

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<v Speaker 3>Seventy four is the new forty four?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I know that for humans.

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately, today is Friday, so we're going to we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to do what you learned this week on the Gary

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<v Speaker 3>Leave us a talkback message.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, when you're on the app, all you have

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<v Speaker 2>to do is hit that little microphone button and it'll

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<v Speaker 2>record a message that comes into the comes into the

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<v Speaker 2>old computer. Here, a guy who jumped onto a polar

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<v Speaker 2>bear to protect his wife is recovering from serious injuries.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd do that.

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<v Speaker 2>The nishnabi Oski Police Service officers responded to a home

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<v Speaker 2>in a residential area near in Ontario after reports of gunfire,

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<v Speaker 2>and they discovered a dead polar bear. But before they

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<v Speaker 2>got there, LISTA received reports of a possible bear sighting

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<v Speaker 2>in the same area. Apparently this couple was out there

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<v Speaker 2>shovel and snow and the old polar bear came up,

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<v Speaker 2>don't you know, And he had to climb on the

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<v Speaker 2>polar bear's back to prevent it from killing his wife. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>he suffered serious injuries as a result.

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever I bring up a possibility of a bear attack,

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<v Speaker 1>my husband says, I just have to run faster than you.

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<v Speaker 2>Does he say it seriously or does he say a

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<v Speaker 2>smile on his face? No, very serious. It's his plan.

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<v Speaker 3>You could put that in the divorced documents if you like.

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<v Speaker 2>The La Times editor doctor Patrick soun Shong says that

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<v Speaker 2>his team is working on a technology driven bias meter

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<v Speaker 2>to add to articles on the website as soon as

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<v Speaker 2>next year. The idea, the way he's talking about it

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<v Speaker 2>is it's going to be something like a module that

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<v Speaker 2>would present multiple viewpoints under particular news item as well

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<v Speaker 2>as some version of comments to be integrated into it.

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<v Speaker 2>He says, imagine, imagine if you now take whether it

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<v Speaker 2>be news or opinion, and you have a bias meter,

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<v Speaker 2>whether news or opinion, more like the opinion or the voices,

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<v Speaker 2>you have a bias meter. So somebody could understand as

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<v Speaker 2>a reader that the source of the article has some

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<v Speaker 1>So when you say tech driven, does that mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be AI driven? AI will read an article

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<v Speaker 3>Sounds like it.

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<v Speaker 2>This idea of a bias meter has been bouncing around

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<v Speaker 2>as a product idea for some time. In twenty eighteen,

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<v Speaker 2>a company called NewsGuard provides a browser extension that would

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<v Speaker 2>give you a full nutrition label kind of a funny

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<v Speaker 2>way to put it, but of a news website and

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<v Speaker 2>its political leanings and who owns it and things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Evans, Yes, Captain America started a website a few

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<v Speaker 2>years ago called a starting Point that offers explainers on

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<v Speaker 2>news topics. For example, here's three opinions from Democrats on this,

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<v Speaker 2>a startup called The Messenger that it inked to deal

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<v Speaker 2>with the artificial intelligence company Seeker to somehow help root

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<v Speaker 2>out bias in the reporting, if you remember, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of this started when the La Times, and specifically Sun

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<v Speaker 2>Shong spiked the Kamala Harris announcement our endorsement sorry, saying

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<v Speaker 2>that he believed that the La Times opinion section had

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<v Speaker 2>been an echo chamber and not a trusted source. And

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<v Speaker 2>he said, when my next level of people on the

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<v Speaker 2>editorial board shared with me that they had prepackaged and

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<v Speaker 2>endorsement without having met with any of the candidates, I

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<v Speaker 2>was a little bit outraged and felt that whatever they

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<v Speaker 2>were about to say should be really based on facts.

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<v Speaker 2>So one of the La Times editorial board members, Karen Klein,

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<v Speaker 2>resigned after that endorsement was scrapped. She said she sees

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<v Speaker 2>this move to make this the late call. Said if

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<v Speaker 2>the editor or the owner Soon Seng had decided early

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<v Speaker 2>last spring that he no longer wanted to endorse on

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<v Speaker 2>presidential races, then that would have been a fair, neutral,

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<v Speaker 2>legitimate decision. But it was an odd decision not to

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<v Speaker 2>weigh in on the most crucial election in my lifetime,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was his call, and she said that she

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<v Speaker 2>was upset that he made the decision.

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<v Speaker 3>In the eleventh hour.

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<v Speaker 2>While the candidates are in place, the polls are tight,

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<v Speaker 2>and almost anything can throw the race one way or

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<v Speaker 2>the other. So there is another website I've used it

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<v Speaker 2>before called all sides dot com. All allsides dot com,

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<v Speaker 2>and they will, depending on whatever issue happens to be,

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<v Speaker 2>they'll put together three or four articles on that topic

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<v Speaker 2>and then give you their version or their judgment as

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<v Speaker 2>to the bias in the article. Is it far left,

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<v Speaker 2>is it somewhat right, is it down the center? And

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<v Speaker 2>they kind of grade it so you can look at

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<v Speaker 2>these different articles at the same topic and judge.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's fairly easy to find out, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>or just read through something and realize where it's landing.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>But maybe it's because we read this stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Say, you read it a lot, and I think people

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<v Speaker 2>who are who don't know to look for it, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they wouldn't recognize.

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<v Speaker 3>It right away.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I always tried to read a couple versions of

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it is we're doing, you know, go to the

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<v Speaker 1>places where I know that are right, go to the

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<v Speaker 1>places that are left, go to the places where sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>it's right, sometimes it's left.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes they surprise you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, my computer has decided to restart. Well, it gave

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<v Speaker 1>you the warning it did like two days ago.

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<v Speaker 2>It said, hey, your company wants you to restart to computer,

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<v Speaker 2>and you kept putting it off.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a final push for our pastathon, y'all. As

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<v Speaker 1>of eight o'clock this morning, you have raised one million,

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<v Speaker 1>sixty two, two hundred eighty four dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, and it makes no sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Eighty seven thousand pounds of pasta and sauce, sig die.

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<v Speaker 1>We are in the final push now, guys. The course

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<v Speaker 1>Chef Bruno's charity, Katerinas Club, it provides more than twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five thousand meals every week to kids in need in

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<v Speaker 1>southern California, and it's you, guys that make it happen.

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<v Speaker 1>These are kids that we're going to bed hungry, not

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<v Speaker 1>being able to get up and learn because they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know where they'd be spending that night, they didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>when their next meal was gonna come. And because of

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<v Speaker 1>your generosity, which makes up of like fifty percent of

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<v Speaker 1>what Bruno's able to do every year, these kids have

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<v Speaker 1>a shot unbelievable. You have until Sunday night to donate.

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<v Speaker 1>You could go to KFIAM six forty dot com slash pasathon.

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<v Speaker 1>You could shop at any Smart and Final store. Donate

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<v Speaker 1>any amount at checkout through Sunday night.

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<v Speaker 2>Pull up your pants, take off the pond, be a man.

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<v Speaker 1>You could also go to any Wendy's Rest in southern California.

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<v Speaker 1>Donate five dollars or more, get a coupon book through

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday night. One percent of your donation goes to Katina's

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<v Speaker 1>Club LFG, Holy Macro. It's a multimedia explosion of frontation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, kids used to come up and reach in the

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<v Speaker 2>pool and rub my leg down.

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<v Speaker 3>What the hell are we talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>How much younger does he sound? I know that's insane.

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<v Speaker 2>You've been listening to the Gary and Shannon Show. You

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<v Speaker 2>can always hear us live on KFI AM six forty

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<v Speaker 2>nine am to one pm every Monday through Friday, and

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<v Speaker 2>anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio lap