Speaker 1: Happening in tonight. Nothing.
Speaker 2: Hello, ladies, gentlemen, and welcome to the I closed my notepad.
Speaker 2: Where is it? The seven hundred fifty episode of Geek
Speaker 2: for his podcast, and the three hundredth and fifth volume
Speaker 2: of Marvel Alliance. I'm the podcaster of Mischief Trust Now
Speaker 2: I'm joined by where are we going? This is different?
Speaker 3: Which direction you want to go?
Speaker 2: You spoke? You take it all right.
Speaker 3: I'm the note with the mouth, David.
Speaker 4: I'm the Spirit of Engine, State of Field.
Speaker 1: I'm the man without fear, Chris.
Speaker 2: Yes, we are here for now. I guess what has
Speaker 2: become a bi yearly tradition, because the last two Marvel
Speaker 2: comic cons was in twenty twenty two and then twenty four,
Speaker 2: and I guess it would have been offsetly COVID happened,
Speaker 2: but I guess twenty nineteen they did one after Endgame
Speaker 2: right when they revealed like the the next the multiverse
Speaker 2: sag or whatever was that? Yeah, it was that definitely
Speaker 2: was a twenty twenty Yeah, it didn't happen, right, and
Speaker 2: that's when we got Marsha alias Blade all that type
Speaker 2: of stuff. So what we are here today, Offuly, unless
Speaker 2: we get lucky and find somebody. But even then people
Speaker 2: have said a whole age security is tight, so I
Speaker 2: don't know if someone puts up a camera, they might
Speaker 2: lose an arm. But what we're gonna do, as we've
Speaker 2: done before, is we're gonna react to the news as
Speaker 2: it comes. We're gonna make predictions. We're gonna talk about
Speaker 2: Spider and Brand New Day in the downtime and anything
Speaker 2: anything else in between.
Speaker 3: Let's see. Kevin Fidy's on stage, he indicates that no
Speaker 3: announcements for Vision Quests or other Marvel TV shows are coming.
Speaker 2: Movies only there he really said, Okay, I'm surprised you
Speaker 2: just said no and not just like we're just talking
Speaker 2: about movie's day. So okay, so nothing Vision, which I
Speaker 2: wasn't like if you were to pizza at me, No,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be doing that right now. Apparently they're playing
Speaker 2: the end Game on court trailer right now, so they're
Speaker 2: gonna do get that some seze away. So yeah, no
Speaker 2: Marvel TV shows, so we'll probably be talking about that
Speaker 2: in a less than a month there, So there you
Speaker 2: go for uh.
Speaker 1: Just fine, We've said that D twenty three seems to
Speaker 1: be the a good place to kind of put streaming,
Speaker 1: and that doesn't make put it in less stage. It's
Speaker 1: just like, Okay, this is the biggest stage. D twenty
Speaker 1: three is not the biggest stage.
Speaker 2: Exactly right, So and yeah we'll get vision Quest, probably
Speaker 2: get I wonder though, what they classify special presentation as though,
Speaker 2: do they count that TV?
Speaker 1: Yes, they will if if if you're not putting it
Speaker 1: in a theater and exclusively on theaters.
Speaker 2: Then yeah, okay, so yeah, probably I wish.
Speaker 1: They would stop saying that stuff. I'm really I am
Speaker 1: tired of think exclusively in theaters.
Speaker 2: Oh, I know it's not I guess it's just because
Speaker 2: once COVID happen, that's become a phrase that they have
Speaker 2: to say now. But yeah, it's i'll know.
Speaker 3: Going through that Black Widow stuff again.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, uh for what Disney did twice, Age Warner
Speaker 1: Brothers did a whole year, you know, come on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, they're doing the Encore trailer now, so
Speaker 2: we'll see that happens.
Speaker 5: So big reveal Top of Majors.
Speaker 2: They didn't even bring him on, he just ran in
Speaker 2: from the crowd. But yeah, so we got Avengers Encore
Speaker 2: a couple of years.
Speaker 1: That thing for as much as secured as they have.
Speaker 1: They're I mean they're they're letting the fans take pictures
Speaker 1: and do all the things.
Speaker 2: So yeah, love to see what happens when we get
Speaker 2: other stuff. I bet the on Core trailer we can
Speaker 2: actually get online tonight. I bet that if there's any
Speaker 2: I think the Doomsday footge, they'll show more Doomsday A
Speaker 2: trailer footage we won't get out of line, but I
Speaker 2: bet the Encore thing we will later on.
Speaker 1: Now, how long is the end game going to be
Speaker 1: in theaters? Is it just that weekend?
Speaker 2: I don't know if they've specified Yeah, that's a.
Speaker 1: Good VIEB twenty fifth, but I haven't seen like eight
Speaker 1: you know tickets now Here's it's only like this weekend?
Speaker 1: Or is it two weeks?
Speaker 2: I bet they could run that for at least two
Speaker 2: I bet you know.
Speaker 3: So that so far, the on Core trailer includes footage
Speaker 3: of the crowd reacting to the portal scene, and it
Speaker 3: also includes shots of Steve's Stone Return journey and Tony's lineup.
Speaker 3: You mess with time, it tends to mess back.
Speaker 2: And you know, shut out to myself. Back in twenty nineteen,
Speaker 2: I like because I was I we did a cast
Speaker 2: that week, and I pitched that's why I thought Kang
Speaker 2: was gonna be the villain like the song, which I
Speaker 2: was right for by that, But I just that line
Speaker 2: to me always did stuck off of you mess with
Speaker 2: time attends a mess back. I'm like, that's in there
Speaker 2: for a reason. But that shot of Steve's Stone return journey,
Speaker 2: oh that's uh that you know again, I'm already seen
Speaker 2: it because I want to take at least when to
Speaker 2: see Avengers before we get to the other one. But
Speaker 2: where's my guy right there? You know, I am one
Speaker 2: of those suckers, and like I've always been interested. Again
Speaker 2: though they better, I guess. I don't know. How does
Speaker 2: he return the one to Vormere.
Speaker 1: But that's that's the thing, even but even before Tony
Speaker 1: says that it will. When Tony says that warring, it's
Speaker 1: reinforced with the ancient one. Yeah, yeah, you cannot like
Speaker 1: just go back to the way things I mean things,
Speaker 1: I mean, shoot, you've changed things forever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, branching timelines.
Speaker 5: To answer your question about the warmir one, he just
Speaker 5: sell and just like here you go, Bud, here we go.
Speaker 2: Foggy throws the Josh Howitz in the crowd asking about
Speaker 2: Ryan Gosling as ghost Rider. This is paying off because
Speaker 2: he has asked both Gosling this and Foggy this. So
Speaker 2: they're about to pay it off, right fucking out. Ryan
Speaker 2: Gosling is about to fucking come on, Come on, Ryan,
Speaker 2: it's confirmed. Ryan Gosling is confirmed as a ghost Rider.
Speaker 3: Set him on fire and roll him out.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's let's go on stage. Wow that is and
Speaker 2: you know what, Taylor, I'm sorry, but first point of
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty six the draft draft week, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: is myself. I've had him on that for all and
Speaker 2: I even thought about dropping him. I even talk about
Speaker 2: the cast is like yeah, but I was like, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna wait till Secret Wars. Let's see.
Speaker 1: Sometimes waiting wait and pays off. But yeah, no, I
Speaker 1: mean this is We've been saying it for what.
Speaker 2: It's a movie. It's a movie. No, directed by Sean Levy.
Speaker 2: Oh they stooped up the Starfighter. I've got the logo
Speaker 2: right here, there's a logo on everything. Look at this.
Speaker 1: Holy oh yeah. We now have X Men and ghost
Speaker 1: Rider coming out in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 2: And this is why I said, Hey, I was ridding
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, Just about nineteen minutes ago, I said, they
Speaker 2: do a ghost Spider movie. They're not doing that. That's
Speaker 2: because I thought no way they would take a risk on.
Speaker 1: That, Like no, I mean, but again, if you're gonna
Speaker 1: put a star power like Ryan Gosling behind it, Ryan
Speaker 1: gost is not just gonna come up for a cameo.
Speaker 1: He's no, you know. So, yeah, that's awesome, that's very cool.
Speaker 4: Why they're not blade me with this?
Speaker 2: Oh Man and Sean Levy Obviously he's coming off Starfighter.
Speaker 2: He's already did Deadpool and Wolverine for them, so that's
Speaker 2: a big thing. So I imagine that means because we
Speaker 2: know Deadpool four is coming, it could happen. But I
Speaker 2: feel like I wonder if Ryan's gonna go get someone
Speaker 2: else for that. But yeah, that makes sense, awestly work together. Well,
Speaker 2: hopefully that means good things for Starfighter. But that's big.
Speaker 2: A ghost Rider movie starting Rying Gostling, My goodness. I yeah,
Speaker 2: I would not have had the bet. I would have thought, okay, Doomsday, okay,
Speaker 2: Secret Wars, Midnight Suns, but I would have never thought
Speaker 2: just a ghost Rider movie.
Speaker 1: Hey, yeah, wow, let's let's do it.
Speaker 2: That is crazy. There he is on stage. I didn't
Speaker 2: hear this. I don't know what people talk about motorcycle.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe the motorcycle didn't work. There could be a
Speaker 2: chance I'd have an undertaker all the time in wrestling
Speaker 2: events where they oh, we're gonna do the we're gonna
Speaker 2: do the we're gonna do the the motorcycle entrance, and
Speaker 2: then we just stall halfway through say okay, you're walking
Speaker 2: the ramp now, buddy. But wow, okay, Ryan Gosling is
Speaker 2: ghost Rider and and obviously at the end of this panel,
Speaker 2: we'll do a quick breakdown everything, and we got our
Speaker 2: thoughts sending out for the podcast feeds of course, but
Speaker 2: uh wow, that's that's crazy tear. Oh wait, oh wait, yeah,
Speaker 2: hold hold those thoughts were I'm just happy, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: I'm gonna hit you more in death one after the fact.
Speaker 1: But but yeah, they did they I haven't seen if
Speaker 1: they say who is he? Which one is he?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I don't think that's I'm I got a couple
Speaker 2: of ovacations I'm looking to see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kevin Figgy's seen Star Wars Starfighter and it's amazing.
Speaker 1: This is what I don't I don't care for statements
Speaker 1: like this. It's like, who's Yeah, it looks like crud
Speaker 1: to me. But then you know, stop saying stuff like that.
Speaker 2: I mean coming twenty twenty eight. So like you said, Chris, yeah,
Speaker 2: I get that's what you're referring to it when you're
Speaker 2: talking about that, and go, what a what a start
Speaker 2: to The next saga is x Men rumor? Right, that's
Speaker 2: a rumored date right now, so obviously don't put me
Speaker 2: down for that. But like rumor date for x Men
Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight, which I think we all believe it,
Speaker 2: and then Ghostwriter, which you know, Ghostwriter could be the
Speaker 2: smaller one to open up in between, right, like that
Speaker 2: could be like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, x Men is going to be your big one suit.
Speaker 1: It's either going to be a summer or December release.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was confer it's been confirmed. Well, yeah,
Speaker 2: we're looking to see if it's Johnny Blaze. We haven't
Speaker 2: seen anything. Yeah, we haven't seen anything as Johnny where.
Speaker 1: Yeah, lean, I could see him being Johnny more than Danny.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Does Ghostbar end up in seguars? Do they hold
Speaker 2: off to the movie. I guess I I'm either hmmm,
Speaker 2: that's to say this because Marva likes to do this.
Speaker 4: They did with Panther and Spider Man.
Speaker 5: And then they get Stanle Combs after the fact, right,
Speaker 5: So it's just kind of their moment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it makes sense that's that's a big stage
Speaker 2: for him, right. So then you set them up there
Speaker 2: because I was gonna say, oh, do they want to
Speaker 2: do the origin this and that they can do that
Speaker 2: later or they can just jump, they can do a
Speaker 2: Batman you know. Matt Reeves, he's just he's a ghost
Speaker 2: rider and this is what we're doing that, you know.
Speaker 1: So and and especially just with the character. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is where we get the fisto because my fisto
Speaker 1: is directly tied into ghost writers origins. And this is
Speaker 1: where you bring back Sasha, Sasha Cohen for this. So
Speaker 1: that's how you get him back.
Speaker 4: Perfect.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Now that I mean, that's it. You really, that is
Speaker 1: a key part of the character that that is not
Speaker 1: someone that you can just ignore, not have Mephisto not
Speaker 1: in it. He's going to be in this movie.
Speaker 2: There you go. That's smart. John Birth And I was
Speaker 2: on stage next week to remind or on stage her mind,
Speaker 2: Kevin Foiggy that he's whatever insparier Man's coming on. You
Speaker 2: know what the fuck I'm saying. He's just there to
Speaker 2: be like, hey look at this, you know so oh
Speaker 2: sorry you're seeing aw updates. I'm trying to get uh.
Speaker 3: Smorrow.
Speaker 1: Just the building of Ryan Gosling, the build. He is
Speaker 1: a Johnny Blaze build more than a Danny Ketch build.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: And again the fact that in coming from a physical
Speaker 1: media person with omnies and things like that, there has
Speaker 1: been a Danny's runs almost been complete, but everyone's been
Speaker 1: wondering where is Johnny's Johnny's Collected Edition outside of a
Speaker 1: master Works? And so they're done. They have officially completed
Speaker 1: his run in Masterworks. So I think we were waiting
Speaker 1: for something like this too. They say there's no synergy,
Speaker 1: Kevin Figgy's in charge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a fucking lie. That. Like they put on
Speaker 2: an Age of Ultrunk, like a couple of years before
Speaker 2: Age of al Trunk. It did nothing to do with
Speaker 2: the movie. But they're all the time doing that stuff.
Speaker 2: They were doing that in twenty fifteen, even though like
Speaker 2: he didn't have like full control of the comments. They
Speaker 2: still were like trying to do that, right, So yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Might say, I say he's Johnny and I'm fine with that.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, yeah, so yeah, no, we'll have to see
Speaker 2: what happens there. But yeah, I would not. I did
Speaker 2: not think we're getting.
Speaker 1: But but here's such a cool thing with the character,
Speaker 1: like the the history of the Ghost Riders through history,
Speaker 1: like you can go really like cast lots of different
Speaker 1: people and either anthology things like that or bring in
Speaker 1: different people is from the past ghost.
Speaker 2: Right like it is, So you can do that with
Speaker 2: this easily, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well they did it anyways with the Nick Cage
Speaker 1: one with them.
Speaker 2: God, I say, Elliott, right Elli? Yeah, yeah, yeah, What's
Speaker 2: what's he saying? Taylor? What was the line? There's one line?
Speaker 2: There was it? One last ride? Or what the hell?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's when he says, I got one last ride
Speaker 4: left him.
Speaker 2: I can't do a semi and then he becomes the cowboy.
Speaker 1: Let's ride Taylor and I represent the the the younger
Speaker 1: version of the Paramount Taylor Sheridan University.
Speaker 2: You guys are yes, Okay, So while we're waiting for
Speaker 2: stuff I can bring up, there is a video of
Speaker 2: the reveal for Ryan Gossling as God ghost Writer. Sorry,
Speaker 2: it's one of these.
Speaker 4: Actually, is that what you're saying?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, bike didn't work, but we got that, so.
Speaker 3: I said, said on fire and push him in the
Speaker 3: here go here was.
Speaker 2: This is twenty five seconds. But it's a block lone music.
Speaker 4: It's a great logo, it's cool.
Speaker 2: It's just it's fucking lying costly playing ghost Rider man.
Speaker 2: Like I wouldn't I if I this was good, Like,
Speaker 2: it's just crazy again, I would have always boxed. I
Speaker 2: would have brought Secret Wars. I would have bought like
Speaker 2: but him to get a whole movie, I would have
Speaker 2: never pizza bit and a a pizza everybody, No, I
Speaker 2: think I do a whole movie. Again. It's ghostwriter. He
Speaker 2: doesn't have to be there all the time. But still
Speaker 2: like it's.
Speaker 5: Gotta be like Project hil Mary's success, you know, and
Speaker 5: then put him in. Absolutely they just see that and
Speaker 5: they think, okay, give him a movie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, looks like Burenthal's playing exclusive footage of the Spider
Speaker 3: Man Hulk fight.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah that's cool, makes sense, right, Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 2: can wait a couple of days to see that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I won't pull that one up.
Speaker 1: Don't worry people, you know, going back to what you
Speaker 1: said Travis saying, like doing movies or risk, I think
Speaker 1: because of as I just said, like the mythology of
Speaker 1: the character that is like years eternity spanning. I mean, heck,
Speaker 1: there was a ghost writer back when they did this
Speaker 1: series like Avengers one thousand BC, there was a whole
Speaker 1: character backs. And so to the fact of you know
Speaker 1: what's being said in the chat with Vengeance the fisto.
Speaker 1: You know, if there are trying to bring in a
Speaker 1: you know, Midnight Suns, trying to do this difference, Like
Speaker 1: that's what I was hoping when Fige had talked about
Speaker 1: early in interviews, early on as we were heading to
Speaker 1: phases four, five, and six. So there's gonna be a
Speaker 1: space part of the MC, there's gonna be a street level,
Speaker 1: there's like, there's gonna be these certain things. Can we
Speaker 1: try to do that a little bit better this time?
Speaker 1: Like I like that idea that you literally could do
Speaker 1: what we were making fun of James Gunna I'd saying,
Speaker 1: you don't have to watch everything. You can pick a
Speaker 1: certain sector of the MC that really is your jam
Speaker 1: and go with it and be.
Speaker 2: Fine and goes right. Especially to me, that screams like
Speaker 2: you should make that just about like that that should
Speaker 2: be not a one off. Of course, have an end
Speaker 2: credt tie in of course, right, But I'm saying as
Speaker 2: far as you can make that that, anybody can watch
Speaker 2: that movie, they just like a superhero or gostling, like, yes,
Speaker 2: it doesn't have bus x Y and Z and sure
Speaker 2: that could even be a setup for a minute suns
Speaker 2: in the future, right some but then the coups like
Speaker 2: you could you could start there's a billion point in
Speaker 2: the same way as Iron Man. Iromn really has nothing
Speaker 2: to do with the grander MCU, but it was the springboard, right,
Speaker 2: you could do that, So it just I guess for me,
Speaker 2: it just surprised me because it is like a huge
Speaker 2: CGI character. I don't know what it's gonna be budgetary wise.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's still could be bigger, but you
Speaker 2: never know. And maybe they're just feel themselves again, right,
Speaker 2: So if we have ghosts right now, we need Blade
Speaker 2: to finally happen or this is the the classic one
Speaker 2: soul for another there, Johnny, this is the this is
Speaker 2: you we last week when Foggy said, ah, I feel
Speaker 2: like such a failure about Ali. This is him literally
Speaker 2: saying we gave a Bali to get Gossling, you know, so,
Speaker 2: plus ghost priers upon before the War of the Fasola's
Speaker 2: black art. Yeah, tons of stuff do there. We got
Speaker 2: some announced or updates here. We got the roosters around
Speaker 2: stage talking about the.
Speaker 1: Movie called Avengers doomstay good for them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the cast of Doomsdays revealed on surprise stages in
Speaker 2: the back of hall. H I don't know what that means.
Speaker 2: So we're gonna find what that means in a second here,
Speaker 2: but there you go. So yeah, and so what And
Speaker 2: I don't even know when this thing started now because
Speaker 2: it started late, so I don't have like official time.
Speaker 2: So let's see.
Speaker 1: Here, Doomstair now on stage. So you've got all right, I.
Speaker 2: Got a screen share coming up for us too, Sokedro.
Speaker 1: We've got Samiel Lou, We've got mister Anthony Mack. We've
Speaker 1: got Paul Rudd.
Speaker 2: Yeah all that, that's okay? So that well, I guess
Speaker 2: it's hurting my eyes. I thought the X Men people
Speaker 2: were gonna be the X but then I see David
Speaker 2: Harbor standing right there, so he's he's on an X Man.
Speaker 2: He's not there. Yeah, so who knows what's going on there,
Speaker 2: but uh, you know, good for James Marson, getta get
Speaker 2: his flowers there. And that's Rebcca Remain right beside him.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 3: So we got three X men. We got Kelsey Grammer,
Speaker 3: Rebecca Remain and Marten. That's that's it from.
Speaker 1: Like Ryan Gossing saying, oh yeah, you know, he's just adorable.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah no, but he's playing like the spirit of vengeance.
Speaker 2: And and this is one thing like and I I
Speaker 2: do not want to get into this debate right because
Speaker 2: like what Chris said, like, but I know, I know,
Speaker 2: I know social media's or so I know social media
Speaker 2: is blowing out right now with the news Ryan Gosling's ghostwriter.
Speaker 2: That's there's been a sentiment with the DCU like they're
Speaker 2: just like, why won't they big like lack of big stars. Right.
Speaker 2: I don't say you have to do that. I think
Speaker 2: it's still good dud to make stars, YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 2: But that is something that happens when you go out
Speaker 2: and get a star Ryan Gosling's caliber right away. That
Speaker 2: news does spread now gain it's not full proof. We
Speaker 2: talked about this. I always make example after Barbie biggest
Speaker 2: the movie is Career Fall Guy comes out and eats it.
Speaker 2: It's not a guarantee. There's especially the box office since COVID,
Speaker 2: nothing is guaranteed. But if you want to make a
Speaker 2: ghostwriter movie, that is one where you do need a ghostling.
Speaker 2: If you would have said, oh it's some indie if
Speaker 2: like Clay Face, you can do the New Guy. If
Speaker 2: it's Ghosts, right, I go no, Like you need somebody
Speaker 2: to hold that down. Right.
Speaker 1: Well, We've talked about this a few times the vodka stream,
Speaker 1: whether when you're on and sometimes where you're not. That
Speaker 1: to the point of like, how is Marvel getting these
Speaker 1: stars when DC is still not? It's despite Marvel being down,
Speaker 1: they still stars will line up for them because despite
Speaker 1: it being quote unquote down, which it is, Yes, they
Speaker 1: still trust what they're about to do. Warner Brothers to
Speaker 1: you know, DC Studios, not to James Gunns. It's not
Speaker 1: his fault, but like Warner Brothers is like, God knows
Speaker 1: what's happening.
Speaker 2: Over there, you know, we never know, right.
Speaker 1: So so there's not a lot of trust there. Even
Speaker 1: though they like James Gunn, they like, you know, what
Speaker 1: they're trying to do but there's like are you going
Speaker 1: to be around in the sense of like, where's where
Speaker 1: is the you set up this idea of here's the plan.
Speaker 1: All we've seen is you know, Superman and Super Family
Speaker 1: and things like that. Now we're seeing Clayface. So the Clayface,
Speaker 1: I hope is going to be I'm again I'm a
Speaker 1: DC fan too, but I want I think that's where
Speaker 1: the problem is, Like, there's the community the Hollywood actors
Speaker 1: and actors is aren't necessarily giving them the benefit of doubt,
Speaker 1: yet they're still more to prove.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, we got Robert Downey on stage saying
Speaker 3: it's not easy being green, and then they they it
Speaker 3: looks like that there's three different stages of actors. There's
Speaker 3: the main stage that has Robert Downey looks like Chris
Speaker 3: Evans as well. Then there's the A stage and the
Speaker 3: X stage.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, Downy's on the A stage. Let's let's
Speaker 2: be clear. He's the guy.
Speaker 1: He's Wait a minute, how do those actors feel like, Hey,
Speaker 1: look at us, No one's paying attention to you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got three different stages and the other everyone
Speaker 3: else is just kind of off in random directions. And
Speaker 3: then you've got Downy Evans up front.
Speaker 2: So they did confirm, which I don't think this were
Speaker 2: big surprise, but we takd as many times. Haley at
Speaker 2: Well will return for Vengers Doomsday. So again she did
Speaker 2: not have a chair. But I think we all kind
Speaker 2: of assume Steve is a kid. We got to see
Speaker 2: her at some point, so.
Speaker 1: He went slimming.
Speaker 2: He thought, yeah, yeah, she's back, so that makes sense.
Speaker 2: I think she'll play a role in that, says, I'm
Speaker 2: half expecting Tom Cruise mc cast. Now you never know, man,
Speaker 2: I don't think it's add of the realm possibility. I
Speaker 2: think it Secret Wars as a shot, but you never know.
Speaker 2: You never know.
Speaker 1: We will not get the Iron Man Doomsday fight until
Speaker 1: Secret Wars. We're not. It's that's I think that's a
Speaker 1: secret worst thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree, yea, I don't think tonight, but no,
Speaker 2: I could. I can still see Tom Cruise, but fam
Speaker 2: McClay in chests, I say, you can still make a
Speaker 2: cheaper Ghost Dan with something like a budget of Adam Project.
Speaker 2: Just looking at Shawn's movies I've seen, Yeah, he is
Speaker 2: good with that. The only problem is, though, why I
Speaker 2: don't think it'll be a cheap budget is like look
Speaker 2: at your star already though, right, that's like right right away.
Speaker 1: And also but also Sean Levy's not one to just
Speaker 1: to go let budgets go crazy just because I would
Speaker 1: trust with a budget.
Speaker 2: And even then too, like talking about that, Sean Levy
Speaker 2: can't be cheap now either. Right after real guy dead
Speaker 2: Pool Wolverine, it was.
Speaker 1: A real guy for him though, look good, Yeah he
Speaker 1: was free guy. Yeah, I mean good for a free
Speaker 1: guy freak. Yeah, look at within less than ten years
Speaker 1: what he's been able to do, and look where he's
Speaker 1: now standing now. Star War, a Star Wars movie that
Speaker 1: we hope is good, that we hope and have a
Speaker 1: little more faith that it is, and now gets to
Speaker 1: introduce a I don't know if I want to put
Speaker 1: Ghostwriter as an a tier character written even on my
Speaker 1: left for the character, I'd say it's a very high
Speaker 1: B beef.
Speaker 2: I agree here, Yeah, I think be the high B
Speaker 2: is like the right round. I think you could make
Speaker 2: it into an A like, yeah, I think you he could.
Speaker 1: Iron Man.
Speaker 2: Iron Man was very much you could argue low B
Speaker 2: at times, right, like, we're not even a high bee,
Speaker 2: you know, so, like I could argued Captain America and
Speaker 2: Hulk were bigger, Like if you looked at that summer
Speaker 2: people forget Ironman and Hulk were released so close to
Speaker 2: each other. Hulk should have done way better than Ironman financially, right,
Speaker 2: like looking at those characters ips and stuff, but uh,
Speaker 2: you know, never know, so yeah, yeah, and even then
Speaker 2: you think about that he did that Wilverraine. Also, he
Speaker 2: was one of the main producers as Stranger Things whatever
Speaker 2: people want to think about how the show ended one
Speaker 2: of the biggest shows ever, right, and he was one
Speaker 2: of the people that was spearheading that with the Duffer brothers.
Speaker 2: So he's had as he's become a runner, he's he's
Speaker 2: he's he can do the work.
Speaker 6: So it looks like I think Ryan Gosling might have
Speaker 6: gotten around it's not confirmed on like thirty million for
Speaker 6: Project Hill Mary, but then usually in the past like
Speaker 6: Barbie twelve point five, the Gray Man twenty million, so
Speaker 6: he seems to be like that ten to twenty kind
Speaker 6: of range.
Speaker 2: I think he's definitely getting twenty for ghost Rider, I
Speaker 2: especially after projec Hill Mary at least, because what do
Speaker 2: you get for Project Hill Mary.
Speaker 5: It's a reports say upward or a compensation around thirty million.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I would actually say thirty then I would.
Speaker 2: I would say he would, they would. I think they'd match.
Speaker 4: Project just walk on their flex and his project Hill
Speaker 4: Mary Flack.
Speaker 2: Maybe you never know. I guess it depends. Hopefully Starfighter
Speaker 2: doesn't mom or anything like that.
Speaker 5: So do you think that is Starfighter bombs? You know
Speaker 5: Starfire Let's say gets Mando numbers the box office?
Speaker 4: What happens?
Speaker 5: Do you think Disney starts to backtrack a bit on
Speaker 5: ghost Rider?
Speaker 2: I think, to like Chris's point, they're not like s uh,
Speaker 2: Dizzy or d you see, we're lucasfilm, right, Patty Jenkins,
Speaker 2: she makes wonder Woman. Everyone loves her. Let's give her
Speaker 2: a stars movie. She makes one of them too. Actually,
Speaker 2: we're good, Patty. We don't want that one. Look at
Speaker 2: this show runners.
Speaker 3: For game snaps. Deadpool is here?
Speaker 2: Really okay? So are we get Are we getting a
Speaker 2: fucking photo of him and Danny? Yeah? This is why
Speaker 2: I talk about people. These are the moments. But Taylor,
Speaker 2: to your point, I don't I think.
Speaker 1: They would not track stage.
Speaker 3: He's stressed as Oh, I gotta put this one up.
Speaker 2: I don't think they would backtrack on Ghosts, right, I
Speaker 2: think they would stay if they backtrack. It's like with
Speaker 2: Blade where they just fuck up. It's not because of
Speaker 2: Starfighter ballmy, it's just because they make the mistakes.
Speaker 1: So I hope we're at the stage right now where
Speaker 1: we they have had some sort of script or something
Speaker 1: of a plan for what that movie is.
Speaker 2: I would hope. So, okay, so that's him in the
Speaker 2: costume may.
Speaker 1: After what they are dead Pool with Marshalla just not
Speaker 1: having a plan.
Speaker 2: They absolutely because I tell the other themily, if everyone
Speaker 2: forgets Maherschall approached them, they didn't approach Hershall and that
Speaker 2: was their biggest mistake. They should have had a script
Speaker 2: and everything in place first before they made that announcement.
Speaker 2: I think again, because endgame they thought they're hot. Shit,
Speaker 2: Hey we got two time Academy Award winner Mershaw Lee,
Speaker 2: Let's get it out there, let's do this. They should
Speaker 2: have taken a moment in a beat and you know so.
Speaker 2: Ryanraels asked Paul Rudd, where is store and Wyse he crying,
Speaker 2: and Red asked if he's a Rex Rexham fan.
Speaker 4: What is Gray Deadpool? What is that have?
Speaker 1: When he was on X Factor the Black Ops version
Speaker 1: of ask me X Force as the X Force? Yeah,
Speaker 1: what X Force was a Black Ops team for?
Speaker 2: Are we sure this is not just the ash shoot
Speaker 2: the shirt for suit from Deadpool two? Though it could, Yeah,
Speaker 2: because I remember that happened in the trailer for Deadpool
Speaker 2: or anyone thought that, but then when we saw it
Speaker 2: behind scenes, it was like, oh no, it's actually just
Speaker 2: that suit. So we'll have to see what happens. But
Speaker 2: I'm saying, we got you gotta get that picture of
Speaker 2: him and Downy together. You gotta That's that's one of
Speaker 2: your money shots right there. So I'm guessing this is
Speaker 2: they're probably gonna confirm Ryan Reels in Doomsday? Hey, or
Speaker 2: are they?
Speaker 1: How about this? Do you question? Asked me earlier? Is
Speaker 1: Doomstay gonna be the billion dollar movie?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 1: I say Secret War is gonna be the big movie
Speaker 1: than Doomsday.
Speaker 2: I agree, as long as Doomsday isn't a train wreck,
Speaker 2: like if Dream is a train wreck, then all bets are off.
Speaker 2: So uh, SAMs is. Hopefully Levy brings Jonathan Trooper with
Speaker 2: him as writer, since they did start for together ghost
Speaker 2: writer from Banshie Writer could be perfect. Yeah, that'd be
Speaker 2: that'd be great, So I agree with you. I hope
Speaker 2: that's the case, Alex. I'll definitely address some of this
Speaker 2: when I do my lest stat ranking next week. But yes,
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 1: I mean again, you got your little stat fans in
Speaker 1: the in the chat. They just want to hear it
Speaker 1: now I do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, those videos did very well on YouTube, so I
Speaker 2: think the audience is very rabid. I thank them, and
Speaker 2: uh no, I agree. I hope that they get more
Speaker 2: episodes than seven. But you never know. Budgets are tough nowadays, right,
Speaker 2: and the problem with shows more people get successful.
Speaker 1: They it's AMC, right, I think, yeah, it is AMC.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Ram Reel's bit suggested, well, won't be Avengers Doomsday,
Speaker 2: but more info maybe coming soon. Hmmm, strange. I don't
Speaker 2: believe him, by the way, about him not being in Doomsday.
Speaker 1: I say credits. I think we've said in credits for
Speaker 1: a while.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like either way, he's somewhere in there. I was
Speaker 2: wondering if we're gonna get Deadpool four announced, because he's
Speaker 2: talking about that a lot this past year. He's in
Speaker 2: three separate interviews talked he just talked about it last week,
Speaker 2: Deadpool four, So it's it's happening, you know.
Speaker 1: So yeah, they've I think I think I believe that
Speaker 1: he is working on it, but I I could see that.
Speaker 1: I don't think we get a Deadpool four until twenty
Speaker 1: twenty nine.
Speaker 2: I agree. I don't think you do that before X Men.
Speaker 2: I think you let X Men have their stage and
Speaker 2: then he can plan that world. So Wama says Secret
Speaker 2: Wars is gonna be a billion dollar movie. Yeah, again,
Speaker 2: I'm in the camp that I think Spidery, Doomsday and
Speaker 2: Secret Wars are a billion I think I think Doomsay
Speaker 2: will clear a billion.
Speaker 3: If war was for sure. The way that they're building
Speaker 3: this up.
Speaker 2: I think yeah. I just think a Spider Man is
Speaker 2: projected to maybe earn seven hundred million it's first like week.
Speaker 2: I think Doomsday can do that with these returning people.
Speaker 2: So Doom Doomsday footage is coming. So we'll talk a
Speaker 2: little bit about.
Speaker 1: It, even though Spider Man is supposed to be in
Speaker 1: more ways than when it takes place in the timeline
Speaker 1: before Doomsday. If Spider Man hits it good and oh
Speaker 1: Them is back, I think that builds the good wills
Speaker 1: single So I want to see So to your point,
Speaker 1: I'll be fine if I get that one wrong in
Speaker 1: the sense of there's only one billion dollar movie, but
Speaker 1: it has a lot. That's the thing when that when
Speaker 1: I put that out there, I you know, it kind
Speaker 1: of says to Doomsday will I don't know if it
Speaker 1: will make a billion within those that short timeline, you know,
Speaker 1: to call it for a year.
Speaker 2: Oh that you're gonna You're gonna play some antics, You're
Speaker 2: I'm just.
Speaker 1: Saying like, if someone wants to call that, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna play that game.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying this.
Speaker 1: It may still be in theaters by the time we
Speaker 1: actually review that stuff.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I was gonna say, I feel like, if
Speaker 2: it's gonna make billion, goddam, that's beautiful. That's a great
Speaker 2: post right there. So suit's great.
Speaker 1: You know, God so much AI in that five fingers right.
Speaker 3: Six fingers Dimsday footage incoming.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 1: They're gonna show something there that's gonna just be for them.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So again, I yeah, I see this. Ryan Gosling
Speaker 2: Hintsy won't be in the I just I don't. I'm
Speaker 2: not believing that. Pedro Pascal says Doom and Reed will
Speaker 2: have a history in Doomsday. You know what, that's great
Speaker 2: because uh again, I I'm wearing a geekers fantastic for
Speaker 2: I really liked the movie last year. I'm not an
Speaker 2: F four guy, but I did always understand people's complaints
Speaker 2: of the connection of Reed and Doom, and if that's
Speaker 2: not a big deal on Doomsday, I would feel for
Speaker 2: those people, like, yeah, I get that, that is kind of
Speaker 2: a low blow. So I think that them saying they
Speaker 2: have history, now, I guess would that imply that Doom
Speaker 2: is also from A to eight This dude, that's right.
Speaker 1: That based on when he gets I mean he gets
Speaker 1: into the backster building. I mean I put out an
Speaker 1: idea of where we're going with this and what and
Speaker 1: why again, Steve getting off Steegele, Steve whoever's getting off
Speaker 1: that fantastic for a plane. They didn't just go hop
Speaker 1: in the multiverse. I put out there that Steve is
Speaker 1: on that world.
Speaker 2: I think so too. Yeah, and that's where it's like,
Speaker 2: so Steve's there. And we remember in F four when
Speaker 2: they had the UN meeting and they saw the Latvaria
Speaker 2: chair that that was empty. So I think that would
Speaker 2: be the smartest way to get that just moving is Hey,
Speaker 2: they're from the same universe, they can refer to history.
Speaker 2: People will be happy you have that. And what does
Speaker 2: that mean going forward? Does that mean doomed? Like down
Speaker 2: he's always doom. I don't know. If there's been successful
Speaker 2: then I guess it could be. I don't know, that's
Speaker 2: a that's a whole question for like six years from now.
Speaker 1: But but I'm glad they made the decision to not
Speaker 1: do Doom in the first first movie in Degalactus. I
Speaker 1: think that was great. That was a smart move.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so thank you. Now maybe people will finally should
Speaker 2: have out read it in Doom Rival, because they will
Speaker 2: finally doom. That has been like that is the thing
Speaker 2: that I see all the time, is they better do?
Speaker 2: Which I get it. I you know, I understand. I
Speaker 2: think we all have those and I could see as
Speaker 2: an F four fan that being vital to you, and
Speaker 2: it is they have a a big rivalry, a big
Speaker 2: you know, like lifelong competition and few so like I
Speaker 2: get that point. I completely understand that. You know. It's
Speaker 2: like it's with me and Tari agree disagreeing about I
Speaker 2: hate that there's Jedis around Luke Skywalker, you know, and
Speaker 2: the Clone wars and rebels not for me. There should
Speaker 2: not be Luke should be the only one.
Speaker 1: How about this for a Night Times casts, Let's go
Speaker 1: Ryan Gosling, John Burnhalt, Isaac Maharsha Ali and Benedict comerbacks
Speaker 1: that is a fire. Yeah, that would be.
Speaker 3: That is a fire, all right? So it it is
Speaker 3: from that. This is Victor von Doom from the descriptions
Speaker 3: of this trailer and how the Fantastic Four are referring
Speaker 3: to him as if they know him, including.
Speaker 7: Uh Sue Yeah, Sue saying that she knew that he
Speaker 7: was a lot, but didn't know how broken he was.
Speaker 3: And DEM's saying that all of these people have lived
Speaker 3: stolen lives and now they must give them back. And
Speaker 3: Reid grabs Victor's shirt and yells, answer me, Victor, did
Speaker 3: you do this?
Speaker 2: Okay? Who grabs the shirt to no.
Speaker 3: Reid grabs Victor shirt and yells, answer me, Victor, did
Speaker 3: you do this? Thor tries to bring down the axe
Speaker 3: on his head, but Doom flicks it aside with ease.
Speaker 3: Before yeating Thor away with his green sorcery. He raises
Speaker 3: the sentinels into frame.
Speaker 2: Ooh boy, So people if people are happy about that?
Speaker 2: As far as doom being related to that for sounds
Speaker 2: like already they're hitting you with that, But I see
Speaker 2: it your motion. I think right now Chris Ryan Coogler's
Speaker 2: on stage, and uh, you know, I'll.
Speaker 1: See him again. I just like I said earlier in
Speaker 1: The Saints of Thanos, not being there at that point,
Speaker 1: but the the the power and the and how scary
Speaker 1: Thanos got all put out within the first ten minutes
Speaker 1: of that movie of Infinity War. Nobody doubted that man
Speaker 1: and he barely he barely had just one and it
Speaker 1: just had one, just gotten one stone.
Speaker 2: So how do you say, young Chris denzeln Dent, Denzil, Denzil.
Speaker 2: So I'm wondering, is Denzil is he big enough to
Speaker 2: be because says this is the one more thing? Is
Speaker 2: he big enough to be the last thing just by himself?
Speaker 2: Because he's a like like legendary actor the whole movie.
Speaker 1: It depends on.
Speaker 2: The role to'a Jr. Really aged up?
Speaker 1: I say really eight, I say, I say he's black
Speaker 1: panther official, I say black. I say he's a black.
Speaker 1: He could be a multiversal black panther.
Speaker 4: He's a T'Challa, he could he could be the villain.
Speaker 2: I just wonder because it's going last if it's I
Speaker 2: think title date ish, you know, like not the whole thing,
Speaker 2: but just.
Speaker 1: Black Panthers announced, Yeah, return dry googloo.
Speaker 3: Like.
Speaker 2: And again, I don't think they're going to show.
Speaker 1: There's our three films. We've got X Men ending with
Speaker 1: Black Panthers. So x Men is our summer movie.
Speaker 2: So dead Black Panthers getting that big December date too,
Speaker 2: it should, oh absolutely, And this will be the at
Speaker 2: least Coogler's crescendo, right, this is gonna be him going out.
Speaker 1: Be done a way that he hopefully gets to not
Speaker 1: have to pivot the script, you know.
Speaker 3: Exactly, nice looking logo yep.
Speaker 2: So just so again and this this is stuff you
Speaker 2: can announce because everyone knew there was gonna be a
Speaker 2: Black Panther three, right. So it's like because if you
Speaker 2: look at before, they never announced stuff for Phase four
Speaker 2: before endgame happened, right, all that was a blank slate.
Speaker 2: It's gonna wait to endgame. That's why when we got
Speaker 2: the concown after endgame, they showed a bunch of stuff,
Speaker 2: a whole slate, right, they can do this now because
Speaker 2: Black Panther three, that's already going. You can put that
Speaker 2: there ghostwriter as of right now, that's very off to
Speaker 2: the side. You know, maybe he'll be in Secret Wars,
Speaker 2: but you could, on it surface look at this as
Speaker 2: a one off by its own thing. So again they're breaking.
Speaker 1: And this can be interesting in the sense of like
Speaker 1: the debate of Shurry keeping the mantle or are we
Speaker 1: going back to a male taking on the mantle. You know,
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a very tricky thing for them to
Speaker 1: weave because there is a lot of back and forth
Speaker 1: on that.
Speaker 2: WHOA the new cha chall the MC will be played
Speaker 2: by David Johnson. Whoa is it? Holy fuck? David Johnson, Wow, whoa?
Speaker 2: Holy sh let's oh my god, Oh, oh my god.
Speaker 2: That is incredible day, Oh my god. If you don't
Speaker 2: know that is he's the guy from ann Romulus, Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's the guy from Lord Watts. He is the guy
Speaker 2: that people have said he feels like. It's not just
Speaker 2: because he's black, like Denzil will Smith. He has that
Speaker 2: something about him, that charisma. Holy shit, Wow, that I
Speaker 2: did not think they were gonna announce that.
Speaker 6: Whoa, Holy good you know what.
Speaker 1: Bravo for him. He deserves those flowers. Because I was
Speaker 1: so impressed with him and Amla and Romney list that was, Oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he plays like three roles in that thing.
Speaker 1: Holy geez, your new Black panther. So is he is
Speaker 1: he T'Challa junior?
Speaker 2: Is he just says the new to'ch'all. I imagine it's
Speaker 2: gonna be junior in my opinion, I think they're gonna
Speaker 2: like they have said yet, but I feel like they're
Speaker 2: gonna age him up after Secret Wars and they can
Speaker 2: do some magic mumbo jumbo sort of thing. Son, he's
Speaker 2: the Challa son yep, which I get. Hey, I get it.
Speaker 2: Some people are gonna be mad. That's always gonna be
Speaker 2: a debate that people are going back and forth. They
Speaker 2: I'm fine with this iteration, you know, dude.
Speaker 1: That was a perfect way to loop keep what they said. Okay,
Speaker 1: there's there's T'Challa. It was you know, he was who
Speaker 1: he was. Yeah, and now this is the way to
Speaker 1: get to be a Habita challa in there and still
Speaker 1: respect everyone's wishes, you know. Yeah, because Chadwick. Yeah again,
Speaker 1: people always say sometimes like a part is not bigger
Speaker 1: than the actor. Well, you know, Chadwick was a bigger
Speaker 1: than life. Actor, and and.
Speaker 2: Even with him playing the Sun, big fucking shoes to
Speaker 2: fill there is gonna be and I wish him the
Speaker 2: best because there's gonna be a lot of people protect
Speaker 2: that man. Yeah, and don't hopefully it doesn't have social
Speaker 2: media here and we'll get him.
Speaker 3: And Leticia right are on stage together. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, like.
Speaker 1: There has been a time you can't have two Black Panthers.
Speaker 1: It's just that's I think that's what's gonna happen. They're
Speaker 1: gonna have two Black Panthers, you know what. I'm okay
Speaker 1: with that.
Speaker 2: You think they are?
Speaker 3: They are. She's thirty two, a full on handing off
Speaker 3: of the mantle, and he's.
Speaker 2: Older than her. I think, oh, hang on, im, I
Speaker 2: don't have the wrong David Johnson, ang on, hang on, No,
Speaker 2: they're the exact same age, the exact same age. But
Speaker 2: they're playing at the now and uh, honestly we met
Speaker 2: in Black Panther two. He's a little kid. I think
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen is it's gonna be the same way
Speaker 2: as in Fidny War Doomsday. They're gonna endgame. They're going
Speaker 2: to age him up somehow with multiverse magic. You know,
Speaker 2: that's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: They they here's the thing. This is her tricky gown
Speaker 1: because you now you have sure he has a mantle.
Speaker 1: If you get this can go very They have to
Speaker 1: be very cautious, and I trust Ryan Couger for whatever
Speaker 1: how they're gonna do this, if they're going to have
Speaker 1: a handoff of the mantle, and David Johnson now gets
Speaker 1: the official mantle, and sure he goes back to being,
Speaker 1: you know what, what she does best in the sense
Speaker 1: of like how she was introduced as the smarter sister,
Speaker 1: like oh, the technology everything like that. Maybe she doesn't
Speaker 1: feel like she wants to do this and she wants
Speaker 1: to go back to what she enjoys, Like you just
Speaker 1: have to be very careful with that messaging and how
Speaker 1: that's done. And I trust Ryan Couger to do that absolutely.
Speaker 1: But also comic precedent, there has been a time when
Speaker 1: both T'Challa and Shuri have been the black Panther at
Speaker 1: the same time.
Speaker 2: Okay, And that's where you could do that, right, you
Speaker 2: could do that, and I hope it's better written because
Speaker 2: always get my issue was she had that with the
Speaker 2: being the Queen of Waconda, right and then how did
Speaker 2: that happen? She just gave it out to amok when
Speaker 2: we moved on. I don't think that's gonna be the
Speaker 2: case here. I think it'll be a larger story. And
Speaker 2: that's where Yeah, what Mikey said, it sucks for sure.
Speaker 2: They're like Chris talk about there's two routes here and
Speaker 2: then there is a route where you could have them
Speaker 2: just both do it. And that also could ease in
Speaker 2: the acceptance of David Johnson. Right as far as that,
Speaker 2: but h I suppose says kids time traveling back from
Speaker 2: the future like fire album, John Kit Carlzrel Yeah it again.
Speaker 2: That's what Colm books are for, right, And why I'm
Speaker 2: never gonna hold this against them is because they were
Speaker 2: dealt a bad hand. This is not bad creative. This
Speaker 2: is not them being like, yeah, we want to kill
Speaker 2: off the main character Black Panther two and then have
Speaker 2: him have a son. We're gonna age him up. They
Speaker 2: were dealing with what they could do here. I think
Speaker 2: they do understand that people do want a toa schall
Speaker 2: a character. I do understand people still go oh, while
Speaker 2: it's not a recast, I get that it's all comes
Speaker 2: down to your personal point of view. Right, I'm never
Speaker 2: gonna say you're wrong, but I think this is still
Speaker 2: way to honor that character and also still honor Chadwick
Speaker 2: Boseman because it's like they can always refer to him.
Speaker 2: That's his father, that's the guy, the legacy of it, right,
Speaker 2: there's things you can do with that instead of just hey,
Speaker 2: after Secret Wars, we're gonna reboot Clean Slate and then
Speaker 2: here's to ch'alla again, right, which I personally prefer right
Speaker 2: now if we're in this universe because it's it's gonna
Speaker 2: act as the same sort of not exact same character,
Speaker 2: but you know, the same symbol in a sense, right, So.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so that's how they ended it.
Speaker 2: I think so, because he said there was one more thing,
Speaker 2: and we haven't seen anything else yet, so I'll have
Speaker 2: to see.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't seen anything else other than David Johnson
Speaker 3: coming on and thanking people for their support.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again, but again I'm okay if that's how
Speaker 1: Marvel should do it in the sense of you have
Speaker 1: a you know, late winter early spring movie ghost Rider,
Speaker 1: you have the summer the summer blockbuster in the sense
Speaker 1: of this case X Men, and then you have Black
Speaker 1: Panther three in the Yeah three movies. That's how you
Speaker 1: break it up and keep in the conversation.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I gotta show you this this photo here,
Speaker 2: hang on, let me go to my notifications here. Be careful, No,
Speaker 2: this Winston Duke is fucking I've got.
Speaker 3: That same tweet up right now and just looking at it.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm sorry, there's your black panther. Ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 1: right listen, you take it into a fight.
Speaker 2: David Johnson, I love you, brother, but you gotta go
Speaker 2: get you gotta go hit the gym. Now, you gotta
Speaker 2: go put in some wars.
Speaker 3: He was that tall. Hey.
Speaker 2: I also think that Winson book is like, uh, duke,
Speaker 2: he's owned up a little because I feel like he
Speaker 2: was a bit like his arm. He was always a
Speaker 2: big dude. But his arms are like fitd in big big.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about height, man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the muscles that yeah, maybe that's it. The thing's
Speaker 2: not short and Baker's just fucking at all. Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's a he's like a foot over the hats.
Speaker 1: As they said in wind or something specimen exactly right.
Speaker 2: But and that's the thing again to with David Johnson
Speaker 2: is if you're gonna go. It's always been a concience thing.
Speaker 2: Whatever that's past it. What you have to do is
Speaker 2: like you did with Chadwick. You have to go after
Speaker 2: a great actor, and that's what they have Dave John's
Speaker 2: in a short amount of time. David Johnson's proved is
Speaker 2: a good It's very interesting because I'm so Taylor. I
Speaker 2: got bit though I can't Damps an Interest because that
Speaker 2: was the rumor for a long time. The fucking Secret
Speaker 2: Wars concept art used Damps and Interest's face. As to Challa,
Speaker 2: there's many other scoopers that have said, yeah, he's in talk.
Speaker 2: So clearly whatever happened, maybe they didn't you know, didn't
Speaker 2: work out money or even then like Dave Johnsky available.
Speaker 2: Now I'm pissed because I don't think Dampson name this
Speaker 2: is gonna be casting anything for the next year. So
Speaker 2: I got I got this anchor, but I thought he
Speaker 2: had it because so many people are just like, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's the guy. But for me, this was something we
Speaker 2: talked about. I feel like there's so many times I
Speaker 2: was like, I wish it was David Johnson, but I
Speaker 2: think they already got that role. So they've gone for Okay,
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a controversial decision, but Dampson or sorry,
Speaker 2: David Johnson is a fantastic home run choice that can
Speaker 2: bring this.
Speaker 1: On this this moment on stage that this actor that
Speaker 1: he's he in the last few years people are saying, saying,
Speaker 1: and then he just gets this moment like here. Soak
Speaker 1: it up, just absolutely soak it up. That you you
Speaker 1: you you've got this, and I think you have a
Speaker 1: say what you want about fans. We get behind people
Speaker 1: that that are taking care of like this, and man,
Speaker 1: I'm behind.
Speaker 2: Him, real fans, real people, not fucking people grifting, just
Speaker 2: trying to get him out of your cultt Yeah exactly.
Speaker 2: So here's them revealing it here.
Speaker 8: So I want to say, oh, this guy so much.
Speaker 9: Thank you, Ryan, thank you, Kevin, thank you to this
Speaker 9: amazing family that I have to honor the provision bless
Speaker 9: that's all we got.
Speaker 1: So for me, it'll be more welcome to the larger world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if we find a bit longer reveal, we'll play
Speaker 2: that before we're off there. But yeah, I that gets
Speaker 2: me so excited. Not that I'm like you said, Chris,
Speaker 2: because of fran Coogler. I I you know, I I
Speaker 2: really enjoy Wakonda forever. It's close to my top ten,
Speaker 2: so I didn't have issues that other people did. But
Speaker 2: this is just Daved Johnson that gets me even more excited.
Speaker 2: And again we talked about this many times. I always
Speaker 2: put up this note in Endgame. The first person to
Speaker 2: come in at that portal was Chadwick Boseman. He clearly
Speaker 2: and that's what we talk about too with this saga
Speaker 2: when oh they had no may like, they didn't decide
Speaker 2: through their main characters. They lost one of them right
Speaker 2: that clearly Tragic was going to be a guy for
Speaker 2: a bit.
Speaker 1: Stat first trailer will kind of forever always get me tears.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah it had it had that that anniversary
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. But to me now, Dave
Speaker 2: Johnson is one of those guys where, hey, if you
Speaker 2: got the X Men, I'm not gonna say Ryan Goston's
Speaker 2: ghost rec could be that, but maybe Ryan Goston's ghost
Speaker 2: Rider later, but still Dave Johnson, if you look at
Speaker 2: a New Trinity, he could be that. If it's like
Speaker 2: Sadie Sega's Gene, David Johnson's that and somebody. Even if
Speaker 2: you got Thors the Old Guard, like Dave Johnson can
Speaker 2: be one of those pillars for the next saga.
Speaker 1: You know it's not you know again we say what
Speaker 1: to want of Awards season. At that point, Black Panther three,
Speaker 1: mark my words, could be the film that did get
Speaker 1: the Best Picture nomination and gets the Best Picture win. Wow,
Speaker 1: you know, jeez could if they do it right, they it.
Speaker 1: I think by all people Ryan Cooger are proven what
Speaker 1: he did and proven continues to prove what he did.
Speaker 1: He's the one that says we're not only going to
Speaker 1: get the first Superhero Best Picture nomination, but the first
Speaker 1: Best Picture win. And that's because you have great cash,
Speaker 1: you have great people, and you have the people that
Speaker 1: believe in it. And that is not what he's aiming
Speaker 1: to do. He's aiming to put it out there. But
Speaker 1: like man, I'm telling you, of all films that have
Speaker 1: any potential Black nan To three, it will be an
Speaker 1: Academy Award winning film potential right there.
Speaker 2: Well hey, and if it happens, it didn't get revealed today,
Speaker 2: but uh god, now now you've mine working out Denzel Denzel.
Speaker 2: If Denzel isn't that that helps with that type of stuff, right,
Speaker 2: which again, this is why we talk about rumors all
Speaker 2: the time. People he's in he's in San Diego. He's there.
Speaker 2: He wasn't fucking hear he wasn't you know, this would
Speaker 2: have been a time to bring him up. I'm not
Speaker 2: saying he's not there, but that's why people, because there
Speaker 2: was a fan asked me like, oh, why you give
Speaker 2: yourself a point yet for the draft. It's like it's
Speaker 2: not over yet, Like we got he's gotta be on
Speaker 2: this stage. It's not same thing like this they used it.
Speaker 2: He us a different actor's face for the black Panther
Speaker 2: concept art for the recast, and he ain't on the
Speaker 2: stage talking about being the Nu Chachala right now. It's
Speaker 2: somebody else. So, uh, say, you've been quiet, you love
Speaker 2: Damien Romas. What do you think about Due Johnson as
Speaker 2: U next black When when you.
Speaker 5: Said the name, like, I completely the name. I BLANKT
Speaker 5: so I google it and it's like NFL player.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, that's when you john Texans running back.
Speaker 1: We say congratulations, man, I'm becoming part of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, someone's doing that.
Speaker 1: Someone's going right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But no, this this has me super super.
Speaker 5: So I just watched The Long Walk not too long
Speaker 5: ago and yeah, he's fantastic there, and yeah, elon Romulus,
Speaker 5: the guy is fantastic. And just that clip you just
Speaker 5: played of him just speaking briefly like he's just he
Speaker 5: seems so humble and just so honored to kind of Happenfield.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just this is this is great.
Speaker 5: I think he's just gonna do wonders because I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 5: that third one was definitely like in the wake and
Speaker 5: paying a homage to the second one.
Speaker 4: The yeah, the second one. Yeah, yeah, So I feel
Speaker 4: like this.
Speaker 1: Here's the rumor.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, storms in this movie for sure. I think
Speaker 2: I think the same way if if Jean Gray is
Speaker 2: uh till summers, yeah one of the summers, if say
Speaker 2: he's saying it is Jean Gray. They've shown now that
Speaker 2: they want to do, you know, these backward things where okay,
Speaker 2: let's storm in there first, and that makes sense. I
Speaker 2: think you could. I think you would really do that.
Speaker 2: I got the I got a longer clip of him
Speaker 2: talking saying, I'll bring that up here.
Speaker 1: We're probably telling just a black Panther. Black Panther will
Speaker 1: kind of forever. I could see them dropping Black Panther team,
Speaker 1: putting another title underneath it. Well, I could also see
Speaker 1: very quickly it's no longer black panther three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it could just be like something like legacy something
Speaker 2: like that, but something around that type of term. But
Speaker 2: here I tried to pick up where we left off here.
Speaker 8: But thank you so much.
Speaker 9: Thank you Ryan, thank you Kevin, thank you to this
Speaker 9: amazing family that I have the honor and the provision
Speaker 9: lesson to join.
Speaker 8: I actually don't want to say too much because.
Speaker 9: I want to let this mea in the talk.
Speaker 1: I also don't want to say which because I've got
Speaker 1: a sniper on me.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm trying to find someone that has that
Speaker 2: yeat the that reveal of that. But I guess that's why,
Speaker 2: other than the doomsday stuff, they didn't show too much footage.
Speaker 2: You're not even like a new trailer anything, So I
Speaker 2: guess it makes sense why they dropped that trailer, right,
Speaker 2: But yeah, that is that's that's exciting. So uh let's see, Yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe some people stop talking about storm and Army and
Speaker 2: to Charlie. Yeah, it's it's happening now, like the X
Speaker 2: Men's coming to Charle's happening, that's happening. He really is
Speaker 2: taller than the thing that's bat right there. Yeah, he
Speaker 2: didn't even again shake. Winston Duke has like Batman, but
Speaker 2: Winston Duke is massive man like he's always been a
Speaker 2: big guy. But he's he's getting ready for something like
Speaker 2: is he is he British? Can he go be bond?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: My god, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 3: He's Okay, I'm gonna put this up, so I'm here's
Speaker 3: the video of him hugging Winston Duke and you can see, yes, just.
Speaker 1: Does Winston just envelop him.
Speaker 2: It's this, It's this from Planet of the Apes. It's
Speaker 2: Charleton Heston with this actor. Oh yeah, bringing up now
Speaker 2: David Drug.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, he is damn mountain of man.
Speaker 2: He's like, okay, yeah, he is the mountain.
Speaker 3: He comes up second here he comes out, does the
Speaker 3: hugs and the the embrace. I mean he swallows him up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't break, don't break or please you remember we
Speaker 1: don't we don't do that anymore.
Speaker 2: You remember after it was I can't remember which movie,
Speaker 2: but at some point Hugh Jackman gone touch with Drane Johnson.
Speaker 2: He's like, I really want to get big for the
Speaker 2: next one. That's what David Johnson needs to now he
Speaker 2: needs to he needs to go hit up the final
Speaker 2: boss and be like, man, I need to uh Winston
Speaker 2: Duke just like the big boy big brother. To me,
Speaker 2: I need the I need to put on the pounds.
Speaker 2: So again, I don't care. At the end of day,
Speaker 2: I really don't care that much. They'll get him in
Speaker 2: the suit. What I care about is the acting, right,
Speaker 2: and all these fan casts so far when it's like,
Speaker 2: oh this doesn't look like this, Christ's too short. To me,
Speaker 2: it's all about let's get a great actor first, and
Speaker 2: then you can always work backwards. It's easy to get
Speaker 2: a great actor to put on the muscle than a
Speaker 2: muscly person to put on the reacting right, So David Johnson,
Speaker 2: is that the A plus choice there?
Speaker 1: So I mean again, they're setting themself flow, so we'd
Speaker 1: like basically we were saying, like next year as it
Speaker 1: should be. There should only be one film next year
Speaker 1: and that's Secret Wars. That's all they need to do,
Speaker 1: That's all they need to lead up to with it.
Speaker 1: You have a couple, you know, we have Daredevil season three.
Speaker 1: I don't know if we have. We don't have anything
Speaker 1: else confirmed for not yet, No, not for twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 1: So that's the only thing confirmed. But again I put
Speaker 1: it out there as well. If there is, I'm very
Speaker 1: suspect of anything else beyond Daredevil for next year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or a special presentation.
Speaker 1: Small or animated and well we'll have X Men ninety
Speaker 1: seven season three.
Speaker 2: Yeah of course. See they got that, and there might
Speaker 2: even be like and we might have another Spider Man stup.
Speaker 2: But for the big mainstain stuff, I don't think so.
Speaker 2: But yeah, and I think that makes sense to just
Speaker 2: focus on that, right, So.
Speaker 1: Here we go, Travis, We've got now if it doesn't
Speaker 1: move again, Batman part two February, we put ghost Rider
Speaker 1: in March April.
Speaker 2: Yeah, h how what was they did they?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: They just said twenty twenty eight for ghost Rider, right,
Speaker 2: they didn't have a March.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that's well.
Speaker 2: Remember though we talked about this. Technically I think they'll
Speaker 2: move it, but technically there is a Marvel movie dated
Speaker 2: the same day as the Batman two February seventeen. They're moving,
Speaker 2: they will move it, but it is they they kept
Speaker 2: that slot, so I feel like probably, yeah, the March
Speaker 2: March April.
Speaker 1: Block, would you open? You know that the unofficial summer begins.
Speaker 1: Now it seems to be end of March April, like
Speaker 1: you put it at the beginning of summer and move
Speaker 1: X Men towards the end of the summer. I think
Speaker 1: you got to put X Men at that and a
Speaker 1: key summer date. I don't think he I think.
Speaker 2: Where Spidey is right now, like that like the end
Speaker 2: of July. Sort of yeah, because that makes it because
Speaker 2: even like I know, we're banking a lot on this,
Speaker 2: but like Project Hill Mary did come out in March,
Speaker 2: so it's like, well that works. They put Gossly in
Speaker 2: March again, and then he it's like the spring summer
Speaker 2: and then you end the summer with the X Men
Speaker 2: and then you end the year with Black Panther with
Speaker 2: this kind of ascend off to Kugler in away, but
Speaker 2: like it's it's I'm gonna be very curious how this goes.
Speaker 2: I do think it's Google's ass movie. But this guy there,
Speaker 2: they're clearly if they cast a new to 'challa, there's
Speaker 2: gonna be if this is a success, a Black Panther
Speaker 2: four A five. This is not the end, right, So
Speaker 2: I'm very you know, Coogler.
Speaker 1: Can be associated as an executive producer. But he's done.
Speaker 1: He is done directing at this.
Speaker 2: I think so too. Yeah, that it's almost like he's
Speaker 2: like ending his reign to kind of and then send
Speaker 2: it off to another prison. Don't get me wrong, I'm
Speaker 2: sure he had like a bunch to do with the casting.
Speaker 2: I don't think they said here's David Johnson go. I'm
Speaker 2: sure he had tons of input, but it is kind
Speaker 2: of like a passing the It's almost like to me,
Speaker 2: if you watch The Dark Knight Rises and how that
Speaker 2: movie ends with Joseph Gordon Levitt. But if they made
Speaker 2: a Batman movie after, that's what it's gonna be like
Speaker 2: in the MCU where Black Panther four will be like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is the younger person taking over for the Bruce Wayne,
Speaker 2: the T'Challa senor, and now they're on some adventures. So
Speaker 2: it's gonna be it's gonna be interesting. So Vincent Moore
Speaker 2: says he wasn't that big in the US movie. No,
Speaker 2: not at all like Georg peels Us he was. He's
Speaker 2: a he's just he's a big broad guy. But he
Speaker 2: wasn't toned up like that. So he's he's getting ready,
Speaker 2: you know, and that's what. Oh, that's as I say too, right,
Speaker 2: you're talking about that is that's why I think we're
Speaker 2: hearing about these dates and why we're hearing about X
Speaker 2: Men rumors is because they can't announce X Men. But
Speaker 2: if it's coming two that twenty eight, they got to
Speaker 2: start shooting, not start shooting, but they're gonna start planning
Speaker 2: for it, right saying things Black Panther. They're gonna probably
Speaker 2: start pre pro like in the next few months, you know, So.
Speaker 1: We'll get your official X Men cast announcement at the
Speaker 1: next sandygu Comic Con. Absolutely, Yeah, that's how you bring.
Speaker 2: Out the the next one. They what if they come
Speaker 2: next year though, you think.
Speaker 1: I'm saying next year? Really that I think next year
Speaker 1: you start bringing out that cast because you want to.
Speaker 2: Day you kill off all the Fox ones and and
Speaker 2: then you're sick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you kill up most of them to the effect
Speaker 1: that yeah used to Charles and Magneto somehow making it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Also, if Johansson stay or sorry Johnson stays
Speaker 2: as Coogler regular after Black Pets, Oh, we're just saying
Speaker 2: in other movies. Yeah, that'd be great if Googler and
Speaker 2: Johnson like have a rapport and they start working together
Speaker 2: and whatever Coogler does sign me up. Johnson is he's
Speaker 2: one of the best upcoming actors. This reminds me a
Speaker 2: lot of when they got Florence Pugh Ford Yolena and
Speaker 2: that was at that time where a lot because I
Speaker 2: remember talking with Brent and I don't think he really
Speaker 2: knew she was. I'm like, she's like the best actors
Speaker 2: in the world right now. He said, oh, really, that's good.
Speaker 2: I'll take that. And that's where Johnson is more notoriety
Speaker 2: than she did at that time. But it reminds me
Speaker 2: a lot of the Pew casting up. We want someone
Speaker 2: that's great and some we're gonna invest a lot of
Speaker 2: time and money in, you know, so, and.
Speaker 1: This is what you could do. Think about this so
Speaker 1: you have at least you know, our problem was no
Speaker 1: Avengers movie until now. You now have the idea of
Speaker 1: now you have X Men and Avengers, you can go
Speaker 1: every other year if you wanted to, or something to
Speaker 1: that effect of, you don't need an Avengers movie next year.
Speaker 1: Obviously you bring in Avengers half, you give secret words,
Speaker 1: you can wait to.
Speaker 2: Breathe, you can wait three years for another Avenger because
Speaker 2: that's how it used to be, right, because it was
Speaker 2: twenty twelve, fifteen eighteen, and then off the end of
Speaker 2: game was different.
Speaker 1: But they have to do something to not have this
Speaker 1: happen again. Avengers will need to be within three years.
Speaker 2: And again we've debated this on Geek. First, I really
Speaker 2: hope they can go back to Avengers one and two
Speaker 2: where we can get a team of six to eight
Speaker 2: and like a not a small threat but not completely
Speaker 2: multiverse ending before when we build back up to the
Speaker 2: big crossover, because I think it would help for if
Speaker 2: they look at Sam and they go, hey, we don't
Speaker 2: know if he can lead another singles movie. We think
Speaker 2: it could bomb or not be successful. Do we do?
Speaker 2: That's what was great about the Avengers the first lineup
Speaker 2: is that's what happened to Hulk. Hulk's movie disappointed. Put
Speaker 2: them in Avengers, and they built that character back up.
Speaker 2: You can build characters back up in a team, but
Speaker 2: if it's that massive cross over fifty characters, it's kind
Speaker 2: of harder, right.
Speaker 1: But but I think in the sense of you know,
Speaker 1: you say back to an Avengers one, like the problem
Speaker 1: with Avengers now is that they have to be a
Speaker 1: big I don't and I don't think you're going to
Speaker 1: get a smaller threat, especially now with the end a
Speaker 1: big event to play. You know, it's going to be
Speaker 1: your event movie. X Men and the Avengers will become
Speaker 1: your event movies, and like it or not, that's that's
Speaker 1: it's gonna have to be like that.
Speaker 2: I agree with you. I don't like it, but I
Speaker 2: agree with you. I always wish they found another term
Speaker 2: other than Avengers that could have signified like so people know, oh,
Speaker 2: this is a big event movie. But now I think
Speaker 2: the GA just says, oh, Avengers, that's the one with
Speaker 2: everybody right where it's like, well, no, that's not supposed
Speaker 2: to be it, but that is it now, you know.
Speaker 1: So you get that in the comics, you'll have that
Speaker 1: adventures in comics, but you you can't have that in
Speaker 1: the movies. They they that that ship has gone and saled,
Speaker 1: Absolutely it has.
Speaker 2: But I hope, I hope they find a way to
Speaker 2: walk it back a little. I hope with the X
Speaker 2: Men movie, like let's let's try it. Let's you know
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: What, you know what you have that is it's your
Speaker 1: favorite it's your favorite thing that hasn't happened yet young
Speaker 1: Avengers and Champions here you go boom.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or thunderbolts like with the New Avengers, you know,
Speaker 2: so yeah.
Speaker 1: It's thunderbolts. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh, it's cool. Denzil, Denzil, Denzil. I'm trying. I'm trying.
Speaker 2: I gotta work on it. For it's gonna be Black Panther.
Speaker 2: He was a mentor to Chadwick. Yeah, I think that's again,
Speaker 2: they haven't confirmed it, but I think it will happen.
Speaker 2: I'm hoping, but uh that they will.
Speaker 3: They especially after they got screwed last time with Angela
Speaker 3: Bassett not getting her uh when that she could have
Speaker 3: been like, we're bringing out the big black guns like
Speaker 3: we're we're going.
Speaker 2: Off for I'm glad you you said it because I
Speaker 2: can't say it. All the post grants are just gonna
Speaker 2: be exavier, so I have a school. Yeah maybe right,
Speaker 2: this the you know getting them? Yes, easy stopping, confirms Gene. No,
Speaker 2: absolutely right, And that's one question we had from a
Speaker 2: giant Patrick. We didn't talk much Spider Man. We're not
Speaker 2: gonna do because this end up being more news than
Speaker 2: I thought. But I think I don't think there is
Speaker 2: any other characters that could be there's tons of characters
Speaker 2: could be, but I just think it's kind of there's
Speaker 2: too much smoke that fire now, right, you know, like
Speaker 2: there's too much.
Speaker 1: I guess they've seen the Jean Gray, Rachel Summers that's it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, let's see. I wonder how much of a
Speaker 2: Night Angels we get in the new Black Panther'll be around, you.
Speaker 1: Know, in the in those power Ranger suits.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't. I hope they're around in that,
Speaker 2: but you know, so let's see here. And then I
Speaker 2: wanted to bring up this week because we got like,
Speaker 2: a there's.
Speaker 1: Something they could really do. Follow me here. Yeah, The
Speaker 1: Tan of Connie host The Ton of Hashi coachs run
Speaker 1: of Black Panther introduced the intergalactic Empire of Wakanda. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is something that you can merge both worlds. Intensive
Speaker 1: You've got you know, Wakanda thing, and then you got
Speaker 1: bring in the Wakanda and the cosmic. You can really
Speaker 1: expand that universe and really open up some possibilities there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could, you could. That could be a long
Speaker 2: way ago. Uh, it's probably because my computers listen to me.
Speaker 2: But my first ad on Facebook is for a mub
Speaker 2: dot Com movie with David Johnson Tom Blyfe. So my
Speaker 2: computer heard me. But uh, let's see where what I
Speaker 2: wanted to share? Oh, I share, I stopped scaring. Hang
Speaker 2: on streamy ard moving all this stuff from me for
Speaker 2: can I just do this? Okay? Hang on here? So, yeah,
Speaker 2: this is what our our our mini slate is this,
Speaker 2: this is this is the slate we're getting. Uh tonight
Speaker 2: is this? We got Avengers, c You Wars, ghost Writer,
Speaker 2: Black Panther three. And then, like I said, I think
Speaker 2: we all assume that, uh, x Men is somewhere at
Speaker 2: the end, middle beginning somewhere in that.
Speaker 1: So I would love it to be love it to
Speaker 1: be the uncanny x Men instead x Men. I'd love
Speaker 1: it to be x Men.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I think it's possible. I think it's possible.
Speaker 2: But yeah, we got not even a logo or anything
Speaker 2: x Men, which again I always thought that was gonna
Speaker 2: be the case. I just started to question myself when
Speaker 2: we got so much rumored casting. Right, Okay, maybe they
Speaker 2: are gonna do something, but maybe they're gonna hold on.
Speaker 2: We're gonna wait for a little bit. But uh yeah,
Speaker 2: I will run down all the announcements. We'll give a
Speaker 2: quick little overall, then we can get out of here
Speaker 2: because we uh, we had some good downtime in between.
Speaker 2: Uh so we got I talk and that I can
Speaker 2: put those on the podcast feeds. But we had where is,
Speaker 2: Oh my god, where is there's gonna be Oh people
Speaker 2: are gonna oh that's interesting. Okay. So maybe even next
Speaker 2: cast for Marvel Lines and gv on some stuff. They're
Speaker 2: gonna do press interviews after this panel now with some
Speaker 2: of the cast and the filmmakers Avengers. So it's gonna
Speaker 2: come up. But here we go. Eric Voss, he was
Speaker 2: on the ground. I'll pull up this tweet because this
Speaker 2: was like a good kind of breakdown of everything we
Speaker 2: got here.
Speaker 3: So Eric Voss was my favorite follow during this because
Speaker 3: he was really quick on his stuff.
Speaker 2: You did a good job, so move marble. Seuw's panel
Speaker 2: has concluded in summary, Ryan gossays ghost Writer, directed by
Speaker 2: Sean Levy, coming twenty twenty eight. David Johnson's Playing Child
Speaker 2: Junior Black Panther three coming in December fifteenth, twenty twenty eight. Obviously,
Speaker 2: ghost Writer, we don't have an official month yet. New
Speaker 2: Vengers dooms take sure they were shown. It was terrifying
Speaker 2: lots of new show thinking about shots of Doom as
Speaker 2: peak abilities, and again he didn't put it here, but
Speaker 2: it mentioned that Doom was from that universe and they
Speaker 2: have a history, which I think is obviously something we
Speaker 2: can only talk a little bit about because we're going
Speaker 2: to see more of that when we get that train
Speaker 2: on that footage. But I think that's a big confirmation
Speaker 2: for everybody. So, yeah, David on the whole, what do
Speaker 2: you think about all these announcements? To wrap us up,
Speaker 2: We'll go around the room here to wrap up, but yeah,
Speaker 2: what did you think about this panel on some of
Speaker 2: these things he announced?
Speaker 3: I said I was hoping for some X ments up,
Speaker 3: but I'm not surprised. But I do think that we
Speaker 3: got some some good announcements. I wasn't expecting a whole
Speaker 3: movie out of ghost Writer and for them to just
Speaker 3: you know, throw all of that out there logo and everything.
Speaker 3: That's cool. I'm very happy about the Black Panther three
Speaker 3: announcement and where that's headed. So I'm really looking to
Speaker 3: Doomsday now and I feel like, Okay, this maybe my
Speaker 3: thought process at the beginning may may be wrong. If
Speaker 3: they hype this up correctly, then this could also, we
Speaker 3: could have two billion dollar movies. I still think Spider
Speaker 3: Man definitely, but now we could have two billion dollar movies.
Speaker 2: And it's like what Chris said, we also right, It's
Speaker 2: like if if Spidery's good and we had a doomsday
Speaker 2: end cred or something that just keeps building, It's like
Speaker 2: people will be if they can fall back and load
Speaker 2: the MC. But again, it's interesting we go from one
Speaker 2: movie to three movies. They're back to doing three movies already, right,
Speaker 2: and to that well, again, we don't know. I guess
Speaker 2: X Men's not confirmed, but if X Men does come out,
Speaker 2: they're back to that, which I felt like they were
Speaker 2: kind of pulling back on. But we are back there,
Speaker 2: so you know, we'll see. But Day, what did you
Speaker 2: feel about some of these announces offus ghost Rider? You
Speaker 2: got not only to do a confirmation that characters back,
Speaker 2: not only did a confirmation of a massive star you
Speaker 2: got a confirmation of a full fricking movie going on.
Speaker 5: So yeah, a full, a full movie of that. Like
Speaker 5: I didn't think that was gonna happen. I thought, sure,
Speaker 5: maybe it's a chance big screen again see him, you know,
Speaker 5: in a collaborative project with others you members, but yet
Speaker 5: just the whole film that's just holy smokes and just
Speaker 5: to yeah, I just I can't. I can't express how
Speaker 5: satisfied and happy I am.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: I remember seeing that first ghostriving the Cage in the
Speaker 5: theater with my friends when I was a little kid,
Speaker 5: and just the excitement of that and just the you know,
Speaker 5: it's obviously not in a cage. It's Ryan Gosling, who
Speaker 5: I love, you know, coming off with Project Hail Mary.
Speaker 5: Like I've just like I'm all like googly eyed for
Speaker 5: for Ran Gosling right now with what that.
Speaker 4: He's been doing.
Speaker 5: So yeah, just it's gonna seeing that movie in theater
Speaker 5: is gonna definitely bring me back and just kind of
Speaker 5: capture a lot of nostalgia for me, just to have.
Speaker 4: This character being portrayed on the big screen again.
Speaker 5: And just the ideas now just where he could pop
Speaker 5: up elsewhere, because I do feel like you're gonna see
Speaker 5: him maybe like Secret Wars.
Speaker 4: Maybe somewhere else.
Speaker 5: I don't know, but I feel like it's not just
Speaker 5: gonna be first appearance in this in his movie. I
Speaker 5: think he's gonna have a little bit of a surprise
Speaker 5: somewhere else and on top of that with Black Panther, like, uh.
Speaker 4: She didn't she's excited.
Speaker 2: He didn't like that cash. She's one of those it's.
Speaker 5: No, yeah, no, this is this is great, Like I
Speaker 5: I can't wait. I feel like that movie is gonna
Speaker 5: be doing a fantastic jaw but paving the way forward
Speaker 5: a little bit off and just kind of paying tribute
Speaker 5: and homage to, you know, Chadwick's kind of legacy with
Speaker 5: that character and just what they were setting up before.
Speaker 5: And Yeah, I think it's just gonna be a really
Speaker 5: really awesome time just to see that logo setup of Doomsday,
Speaker 5: Secret Wars, ghost Rider, Yeah, and then Black Panther three.
Speaker 4: Just it's just it's just I'm I'm so happy. I'm happy.
Speaker 5: But the X Men thing, I feel like if we
Speaker 5: weren't having this could be one of two ways. If
Speaker 5: we didn't have a ninety seven season two going on
Speaker 5: right now, I feel like if they were to drop
Speaker 5: something X Men, yes, it would be very popular because
Speaker 5: people would be like, I need X Men right now.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go watch ninety seven season two on Disney
Speaker 5: Plus because I'm seeing there's gonna be X Men stuff here,
Speaker 5: you know, logo drop whatever coming in twenty twenty eight,
Speaker 5: twenty nine, or like, hey, let's not do anything X
Speaker 5: Men related and reveal it here because we don't want
Speaker 5: to pull attention away from like ninety seven and just
Speaker 5: kind of keep that kind of and the Fox that
Speaker 5: going right, and the Fox has to that only right,
Speaker 5: like afterthought, you know, it's like that's why you don't
Speaker 5: want to you know, Daisy Ridley kind of thing, right,
Speaker 5: So that's percent right.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And to point out before I throw to Chris, people
Speaker 2: I've seen online pointing out that there is an untitled
Speaker 2: Marvel movie slated for July twenty eighth, in twenty twenty eight,
Speaker 2: so that could be your your X Men there right there.
Speaker 2: I think there were some adjustments because it looks like
Speaker 2: there's one in May as well, may Fit, which obviously
Speaker 2: they like that may date a lot, So I guess
Speaker 2: you could maybe you could have ghost writer there and
Speaker 2: then X Men there, and again who knows, right X Men.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's a thing where if X Men's going to
Speaker 2: be a big shoot, maybe it's not until early twenty
Speaker 2: twenty nine. I still think it's twenty twenty eight, but
Speaker 2: maybe it's not. Maybe it's you never know, right with
Speaker 2: these things, things change all the.
Speaker 1: Time, but it depends with the casting and where they
Speaker 1: are with the.
Speaker 2: Script exactly right. But they got those three dates schedule
Speaker 2: out right there.
Speaker 5: So just to interject here, so the whole thing with
Speaker 5: the Russo's having another Avengers project, So I'm assuming Secret
Speaker 5: Wars is not going to be two parts because I
Speaker 5: feel like this would have been a place to kind
Speaker 5: of like.
Speaker 2: Figgy said, no, so I don't think so. No, I
Speaker 2: just still think that not on this world, he said, yeah,
Speaker 2: and on this world. So I think they just maybe
Speaker 2: change your mind because I think they've said, like, oh,
Speaker 2: we'd always want to run around with Secret Wars. But
Speaker 2: they literally said in an interview themselves that they could
Speaker 2: be working on something more of Marvel and like the Avengers. Wrong.
Speaker 2: I can't remember what the quote was. May I'll try
Speaker 2: and find it, but no, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they said something to that effect like they they
Speaker 1: could be but they did nothing definite, and I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be one of those things that let's,
Speaker 1: you know, to your guy Craiger, trying to just get
Speaker 1: a movie out at that, but let's let then the
Speaker 1: Russo's just get Secret Wars, then let him rest a
Speaker 1: little bit and then exactly to say, you know right now.
Speaker 2: Because it's one of those things like let's say this
Speaker 2: all goes terribly wrong and doomsday and secret war zones
Speaker 2: mass No, they're not coming back, right, that's not a thing, right,
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm gonna try and find Yeah, you remember
Speaker 2: what they said, but I'll look, well, Chris and Chris,
Speaker 2: what did you think of everything we got here today?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we said it for five he said,
Speaker 1: We've got some surprises for you. You know, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: say Ryan Gosling coming out as Ghostwriter was it was
Speaker 1: a great We've heard it rumored for a while, so
Speaker 1: that wasn't one of those like I'm glad it's confirmed.
Speaker 1: Was as we said, it's a movie. It's not a show,
Speaker 1: it's a movie. Or he's not tied to Doomsday, he's
Speaker 1: not tynes see words. He's getting his own project. He
Speaker 1: may be in Secret Wars, you know, but he's getting
Speaker 1: his own movie. And as a Ghostwriter fan, through and
Speaker 1: through love it, I'm here for it. It is so
Speaker 1: much of this universe that can really delve into some
Speaker 1: really good stuff. The question is are we going for pg. Thirteen.
Speaker 1: Are we going for r I think that's something that's
Speaker 1: gonna be an interesting discussion. You know, we've got Tom
Speaker 1: Levy directing. That's great. But the naming of our you know,
Speaker 1: T'Challa to David Johnson, I'm so excited for him, so
Speaker 1: excited for this cast. Yeah, that's a great way to
Speaker 1: begin it, great way to end it. You know, it's
Speaker 1: we didn't need a trailer. We've heard you know, David
Speaker 1: talked about the footage that shows Doomsday, the little hype
Speaker 1: it there. Yeah, Marvel brought some good guns in this one.
Speaker 2: So and yeah, we're around out here. So if anyone
Speaker 2: who's any quick questions or anything to throw out, you can't.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna bring up two things here. One, I guess
Speaker 2: the suit was for Deadpool was neither the X the
Speaker 2: X Force one or the Deadpool two suit. It was
Speaker 2: a Deadpool suit that was made completely at a denim
Speaker 2: So there you go. It was just something for you know,
Speaker 2: Ryan Reynolds and uh, you know what he's doing there.
Speaker 2: So uh, there you go. And then I think, Oh,
Speaker 2: to your point when you're talking about that too, Chris,
Speaker 2: I think I I think with Levy directing I do
Speaker 2: think it'll be. I guess he did did pull Overen?
Speaker 2: That's radar. I guess if I would never pizza bet.
Speaker 2: If I had to take a guess, I would bet
Speaker 2: that ghost Writers pg. Thirteen because I think they can
Speaker 2: do enough to get it there, and they might also worry, like, hey,
Speaker 2: did put Wolverene being radar? That's fine because big characters,
Speaker 2: big actors, ghostwriter, do we want to gamble on that?
Speaker 2: I don't know. But when we talked about, you know,
Speaker 2: the soul fur soul this in Blade. When they announced Blade,
Speaker 2: Blade just had Marshall and the logo. They got a
Speaker 2: date for this, even know if she's a year, they
Speaker 2: got a date and they already got a director. Those
Speaker 2: are two things we never had with Blade, Like all
Speaker 2: the announcement day, right, it always it came and they
Speaker 2: kicked it down the road and yea da da da,
Speaker 2: But it took a while to get there. That to
Speaker 2: me makes it seemed like, Okay, they are at least
Speaker 2: way more in depth talk than Blade ever was at
Speaker 2: this point. Right, just the comic con now is the stage.
Speaker 2: So that's great. So no, I think it's what Faii said,
Speaker 2: is that's what you want to do. Of course, Comic
Speaker 2: Con is a stage where you gotta pay lots of money.
Speaker 2: And yeah, they could put this all out and it
Speaker 2: would get some buzz and be announced. That's cool. But
Speaker 2: what they do want is those hype moments of the stage.
Speaker 2: They want to see you to see that motion of
Speaker 2: Dave Johnson on stage, and that's where it works. And
Speaker 2: that's where you know, Chris, we've talked about many times
Speaker 2: with William and Dave over there. It's like if DC
Speaker 2: doesn't have the budget, they gotta find it because like,
Speaker 2: you gotta have some of these moments. I get it
Speaker 2: what James Gunn says of Oh I can just tweet
Speaker 2: this from my phone and have the same impact you can.
Speaker 2: You can, but there is something to this of just
Speaker 2: that that big wosh sort of thing, right, And that's
Speaker 2: where it's like, that's where someone walk on stage and
Speaker 2: that's where for that crowd that must have been great
Speaker 2: and for the future. And this is come from something
Speaker 2: that's very pessimistic, right. I really for me the MSU,
Speaker 2: I don't think it's it's like what Chris said, where
Speaker 2: it's no where near like DC where they have stumble,
Speaker 2: They've have lots of falls right where I think Marvels
Speaker 2: see they've had a couple of falls, but they've always
Speaker 2: gone back up where DC they've had some falls, had
Speaker 2: to go to the er get checked out, and then
Speaker 2: when it's like in GTA, when you get gunned down,
Speaker 2: you get off like, oh that was rough, you get
Speaker 2: back in there. With Marvel, they still got even within
Speaker 2: these phases, right. I know, someone said all phase four
Speaker 2: is a wet far but it's like, oh yeah, right here,
Speaker 2: I can bring up wsays they have to start next
Speaker 2: phase hot if they expect the audience to stick around.
Speaker 2: Looks like they got that now instead of the web
Speaker 2: for that it was phase four. I can agree and
Speaker 2: disagree because you still have a billion dollar movie in
Speaker 2: phase four Aspire Man, you still got Multiverse Madness, will
Speaker 2: con it forever four or five. You have massive big
Speaker 2: hits WandaVision and Loki when those started were massive hits
Speaker 2: like TV wise people are talking about those right, So
Speaker 2: I can't agree that whole statement. But that's where even
Speaker 2: in the rocky phases of the multiversaga.
Speaker 1: They're still gems.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's still gems. They've had big wins. So that's
Speaker 2: where for me Oquen.
Speaker 1: Not saying it's okay. If Phase four wasn't your temp
Speaker 1: with that's okay, not here to convince the otherwise. Oh,
Speaker 1: we have no exactly, but we will say there's more
Speaker 1: quality there than just laying the whole phase like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's where I am with the Marvel stuff,
Speaker 2: where I can still be very excited for ghost Write.
Speaker 2: Even the Secret Wars and Doomsday sucks. It's gonna be like,
Speaker 2: h what a bummer. That hurt a lot of stuff,
Speaker 2: but hopefully X Men and Ghostwriter are good for overall
Speaker 2: excitement for them. So yeah, I would very much like
Speaker 2: Doomsday and Secret Wars to deliver, Like I said, for me,
Speaker 2: at least a seven out of ten. At least get
Speaker 2: me that route. I say, Okay, we can get back
Speaker 2: on track. It's just what we've talked about, this whole
Speaker 2: stream of the connective, the message, the story, making work together,
Speaker 2: having characters not lost. That's what we need going forward.
Speaker 2: So that's where I hope that's what Avengers can do.
Speaker 2: But these other projects Black Panther three, that's gonna be
Speaker 2: its own pretty much thing with Coogler, Ghost would be
Speaker 2: its own thing, and hopefully X Men right. So I
Speaker 2: think these are strong announcements because I would have told you,
Speaker 2: don't make a ghostwriter movie. But if you say, hey
Speaker 2: we got Ryan Gossling Sean Leaving, like, Okay, I think
Speaker 2: you can make that movie. I'm not saying it's gonna
Speaker 2: be guaranteed hit. I'm very interested to see how that
Speaker 2: perform as a box office And like, what do we get?
Speaker 2: Is it something darker? Is it for Ragnarok levels of bright?
Speaker 2: Because Ryan Gossen loves being goofy, right, and he said
Speaker 2: in an interview recently he said he does not do
Speaker 2: darker stuff because of his family. So that could tell
Speaker 2: me that Ghostbar could just be more of a like
Speaker 2: a big fun yeah. Pg. Thirteen. It's still like a
Speaker 2: whoror vibe, but like more a haunts like spooky house vibes,
Speaker 2: not like you know, obsession vibes, that type of deal. Right,
Speaker 2: So I think what they said, though, kem find Me says, hey,
Speaker 2: we come to Comic ConA to deliver. That's delivering right there.
Speaker 2: You have two huge announcements with with Bryan Gossling as
Speaker 2: a ghostwriter and now a new T'Challa, and you got
Speaker 2: footage there among all the other stuff you had, and
Speaker 2: even little stuff. They're smart. Hey Ryan, can you come
Speaker 2: send the crowd crack some jokes and get people excited.
Speaker 2: That's experience for people. Right, there's a couple of people
Speaker 2: there like, oh, I saw Ryan gossling, right, So I
Speaker 2: think they did, as somebody sent from my couch to
Speaker 2: talk about this, I think they did get a job.
Speaker 2: And you know, Figgy, everybody, thank you for giving U
Speaker 2: stuff talking about as well. It's always a bummer when
Speaker 2: we do summer games fests or the Eat Three's back
Speaker 2: day or these common com panels where things happen. It's like, ah,
Speaker 2: there's nothing here, but you know, there was some stuff here.
Speaker 2: Anything else, gentlemen to say before we get out of
Speaker 2: any points questions.
Speaker 5: You said, you know, like a regnant kind of parallel there,
Speaker 5: And I hope Ghostrider would be more like a ragnant and.
Speaker 4: Not like a love and Thunder.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, yeah, I honestly.
Speaker 4: Like I would love it if it was.
Speaker 5: Because Infinity War wasn't necessarily dark for Thor's arc, but
Speaker 5: I mean that moment when he's just get leveling with
Speaker 5: Rocket and the ship and and whatnot of all the
Speaker 5: enemies he's face everything like. I would love that because
Speaker 5: that's just that's not dark and depressing. It's just kind
Speaker 5: of like a grounding moment for the character. I think
Speaker 5: Ryan could do something like that that's not touching upon
Speaker 5: anything super dark, even though the.
Speaker 4: Character, yes is a dark character.
Speaker 2: Exactly, even Project Hail Mary, right, there's dark stuff in there.
Speaker 2: I think he just meant more like he doesn't want
Speaker 2: to be in the drives anymore and place beyond the
Speaker 2: pines like that type of stuff, which I don't think
Speaker 2: ghost Writer would be. But and you know that's fine,
Speaker 2: so yeah, well see. But yeah, Marvel and Showman, you
Speaker 2: guys got anything.
Speaker 1: Seem excited for the future as always.
Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead, I'm just super excited. I'm starting to
Speaker 3: see some of the uh interviews that are coming out now,
Speaker 3: so it's even more so re Beck Romain saying that
Speaker 3: this is a slightly different take on Mistake and you
Speaker 3: know she couldn't wait to do it again and that
Speaker 3: she actually feels ownership of the character. So you know, again,
Speaker 3: I'm excited for everything that's that's coming forward with this. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, like I said, check out Marvel Alliance because
Speaker 2: they these guys are going live on because what's the
Speaker 2: schedule gain because I know you're live for Thursday, but.
Speaker 3: We're going in an hour later than normal, so we are
Speaker 3: just pushing the show back an hour.
Speaker 2: And is it so it will be are you kicking
Speaker 2: X Men to neck the week after?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we're booting X Men back, and we're going
Speaker 3: to do two episodes of X Men in two weeks,
Speaker 3: and so this week is coming up. Week will focus
Speaker 3: quickly on brand new Day starting at nine oh five
Speaker 3: Central Time to five Easter and so yeah, it's it's
Speaker 3: gonna be good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, look out for them. Yeah, they're on our YouTube channel.
Speaker 2: They go live every Thursday, usually every Thursday when we
Speaker 2: got all the news there at around six pm PST.
Speaker 2: And then if you want podcasts, the Friday the next day.
Speaker 2: But yeah, they're going to live a little earlier on Speramen.
Speaker 2: But yeah, they're covering X Men. They do a great job.
Speaker 2: They got coma club and fact and fiction, which is
Speaker 2: always one of my favorite things. And then yeah, in
Speaker 2: two weeks, you guys will have tons to talk about
Speaker 2: because you're gonna have X Men and then fall from
Speaker 2: Spider Man. So it's gonna be again. It's I think
Speaker 2: that's one thing that people, even myself can discount. Sometimes
Speaker 2: we've seen with Pixar it just takes a few wins
Speaker 2: and it gets back in the mode. Pixar had a
Speaker 2: string of bad hits or bad movies as far as
Speaker 2: like Financial Wis that's like toy Storry inside out Zutopia,
Speaker 2: same thing as Marvel. They could be on this run
Speaker 2: now of Spider Man Doomsday, Secret War and that hype
Speaker 2: could be there now. I think, like WDWS said, they
Speaker 2: have to look at everything they did last song and
Speaker 2: be like, hey, how can we sustain that? How can
Speaker 2: we not lose it? And I think we talk you
Speaker 2: guys talked about this and we talk us the geek first,
Speaker 2: where Foggy saying, hey, after Secret Wars is gonna be
Speaker 2: a new universe. It's gonna be much more streamlined. I
Speaker 2: think they know, Okay, we went too much last time.
Speaker 2: There was too much the shows, all the movies they do.
Speaker 2: Gotta find a way, and you know it's either way
Speaker 2: good bad. It's gonna be interesting journey for us to
Speaker 2: watch and talk about. But uh, guys, thank us or
Speaker 2: thank you, yeah, thank us, no, thanks for joining us. Uh,
Speaker 2: this is a great time hopefully, hopefully they do it
Speaker 2: again next year, you know. If not, we'll be back
Speaker 2: in two years. Uh, Taylor, thanks for being here. Everybody
Speaker 2: check us at wherever feeds down below, and I promise
Speaker 2: me here for next it will not be boring. So
Speaker 2: this is a perfect cast. If you ever watching live,
Speaker 2: throw in a comment. Obviously, make it somewhat adjacent to
Speaker 2: like news topic and stuff like that. You know. On
Speaker 2: the other nights, one asked us, we believe in Jesus.
Speaker 2: Maybe not the time to day to talk about that,
Speaker 2: but if the panel really sucks, then maybe we'll go
Speaker 2: around and share our Jesus stories. But uh no, we
Speaker 2: got the panel started. No, we'll give Chris the one
Speaker 2: on that one'll he'll lead us there. But no, So
Speaker 2: that's what we're gonna do. We're gonna say, we're gonna
Speaker 2: break it all down. There's lots of rumors, lots of
Speaker 2: stuff we're not gonna talk about, maybe any rumors we've
Speaker 2: heard yet because in case you have it, we don't
Speaker 2: want to spoil it. So we will we will talk
Speaker 2: around those things. But David, so anything that's not been
Speaker 2: out there, what do you think as like a general
Speaker 2: game plan of what we're seeing tonight from Marvel or
Speaker 2: what we're reading from what other people are seeing from Marvel,
Speaker 2: as it usually goes.
Speaker 3: Here, all right. So I don't think we're gonna get
Speaker 3: much in the way of Spider Man other than maybe
Speaker 3: a hey, remember it's coming out Wednesday, you know, just
Speaker 3: a teaser footage Nate, maybe a call in from Tom,
Speaker 3: but I don't expect like any in live things happen.
Speaker 3: I do think that we will get more details on
Speaker 3: X Men, whether it is casting or just the title
Speaker 3: the future x Men. But I do think that they
Speaker 3: will touch on the X Men and give a little
Speaker 3: bit more about where they're going after Doomsday. I don't
Speaker 3: think they're gonna be a now seeing any major movies
Speaker 3: or anything, but just kind of like, hey, here's the
Speaker 3: general feel of what we are planning with what we
Speaker 3: already happened, and probably that same stuff from Vision Quest
Speaker 3: that I've been hearing floating around out there will probably
Speaker 3: get talked about some more.
Speaker 2: It's been interesting, right because I feel like there's been
Speaker 2: comic cons where TV has had a big presence, and
Speaker 2: that's had a very little one. I know they have
Speaker 2: talked about Vision Quests already. This week, Michael Giuchino talked
Speaker 2: about the score and stuff. So I'm wondering if if
Speaker 2: there's any like if I I imagine they have a
Speaker 2: sizzle reel and maybe there's like little snippets of vision
Speaker 2: quest in there. It's only an hour of the panel,
Speaker 2: so I don't know even if it's gonna get like
Speaker 2: a you know, like a five minute thing. So I
Speaker 2: think I lean towards it'll get some mentions sizzle, but
Speaker 2: who knows. Maybe they have someone there to walk out
Speaker 2: and everything. But I think I agree with you on
Speaker 2: the X Men like logo and title. I don't think
Speaker 2: there's any cat and I never thought that just because
Speaker 2: I thought I in general, even now when we hear
Speaker 2: all these rumors about Adam Driver and now there's like
Speaker 2: God who was rumored last night. He's a guy from Succession.
Speaker 2: Uh he plays Plane Marks Suckerberg in the next movie God.
Speaker 2: What is his name?
Speaker 3: Yea?
Speaker 2: So yeah, apparently he's been in talks for the either
Speaker 2: like Magneto or Xavier. Wasn't like A, I don't I
Speaker 2: don't know if I don't mean he was auditioning for both,
Speaker 2: but it was one of these or it's like they
Speaker 2: don't know. I'm even surprised we're getting these rumors now.
Speaker 2: But then last week when we heard that, oh, it's
Speaker 2: planned to come out in the summer of twenty twenty eight,
Speaker 2: It's like, I guess that's why, right, because if they're
Speaker 2: gonna start filming next year, that's what's gonna happen. So
Speaker 2: I think mentions of X Men eluding, I think maybe
Speaker 2: even a title. But while you have the Fox X Men,
Speaker 2: I've never thought you'd do much of the cast. You
Speaker 2: can leave that later on. And this isn't even like
Speaker 2: anything that's out there. I just always thought that Black
Speaker 2: Panther three makes sense because I just feel like Coogler
Speaker 2: wants to get that done and then move on to
Speaker 2: It's very much like Noelan with The Dark Knight Rise,
Speaker 2: where I feel like he wants to complete that loop,
Speaker 2: do that trilogy, and then he's gonna go off and
Speaker 2: do his own stuff. Now. Uh So, yeah, if we
Speaker 2: get the Big Day, get the Big d I'll be
Speaker 2: excited for that. But yeah, I think it's gonna be
Speaker 2: very doomsday heavy. It's just a question of is it
Speaker 2: a lot of doomsday heavy where it's like it's great
Speaker 2: to be there in the crowd or is it doomsday
Speaker 2: heavy where it's like, hey, this person's in there and
Speaker 2: oh we're covering this and that that's why we never know.
Speaker 2: We're not boots on the ground.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: It can be a great show, but from we've been
Speaker 2: there before, from some pans like, oh, it must have
Speaker 2: been fun to be there, but not much else, you know.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think it's a tough thing. You know,
Speaker 1: when Fikey comes out, you know, when you have the
Speaker 1: doomsday trailer drop like a full trailer, like we were thinking, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like a thirty second and they're gonna
Speaker 1: save the actual trail for comic Con.
Speaker 2: Well they didn't do that, so yeah, exactly right.
Speaker 1: We're just like, oh gosh, what do they have? And
Speaker 1: then Fikey kind of I think he kind of gets
Speaker 1: forced to come out and say like no, we we
Speaker 1: we have stuff, just be ready. We're not and he's
Speaker 1: not wrong. We don't come to comic con to when
Speaker 1: we don't have anything big, like we're yeah, and they
Speaker 1: were right the years we skip, Yeah we missed him,
Speaker 1: but they didn't have to come to that comic con.
Speaker 1: So I think it's a it's gonna be interesting if
Speaker 1: there's some big reveals and of casting, whether it be
Speaker 1: for Doomsday or even Tigre Wars. I don't think we're
Speaker 1: gonna get anything really for Secret Wars. I think they
Speaker 1: have to wait until Doomsday does itself before before that,
Speaker 1: but any kind of major casting, I think we're gonna
Speaker 1: get some major casting for this. But I think again
Speaker 1: it's a catch twenty two, where do you really do
Speaker 1: you spoil the moment by stick I'll stick with my thing.
Speaker 1: I think they are gonna hold their cards close to
Speaker 1: one or two ones to have that moment.
Speaker 2: And they definitely should, right, because there's two type of moments.
Speaker 2: There is the moment a couple of years ago down
Speaker 2: Yet Cong Kong whenever you feel at the casting that
Speaker 2: was like a trending moment. That was where it was
Speaker 2: smart to put that out there too. If you want
Speaker 2: buzz that got you there. You rolled out the Russo's,
Speaker 2: you rolled out Doctor Doom, then you rolled out Downy.
Speaker 2: You know, three strikes home run, not three strikes you
Speaker 2: get on the three bases. But it was a home run, right.
Speaker 2: So I think that's why people start thinking the X
Speaker 2: Men stuff was happening because like, oh, well, they dropped
Speaker 2: the trailer on Monday, they got something big right where
Speaker 2: I think we we kind of maybe misremember where this
Speaker 2: is a stage show and a lot of that big
Speaker 2: stuff just happens where it is, you know, this person
Speaker 2: being here. But I do think there's gonna be some stuff,
Speaker 2: so Tayo. I also know there's probably one thing but
Speaker 2: other than that specific thing, which if that doesn't happen,
Speaker 2: we'll talk about. But what else do you think could be?
Speaker 2: Do you think you'll be mostly Doomsday stuff? Do you
Speaker 2: think there's anything new? I see there's a question from
Speaker 2: esposters will thrown there because that was our speculation before
Speaker 2: of like, hey, if you do something in between Doomsday
Speaker 2: and Secret Wars, what could it be? Because like, there's
Speaker 2: not much time. I keep pointing this out to people,
Speaker 2: and I'm wondering tonight if we get an update. Doomsday
Speaker 2: was filming April twenty twenty five, that's coming out obviously
Speaker 2: this December. Secret Wars is still not filming and is
Speaker 2: like the same type of timeline. So I'm wondering if
Speaker 2: they're tonight and you can make oh we're going into production.
Speaker 2: If not, I wonder if something's up with Secret Wars,
Speaker 2: and it's gonna get pushed just because it there. I
Speaker 2: feel like I could be wrong, but I imagine that's a
Speaker 2: bit of a bigger movie than Doomsday, and they're gonna
Speaker 2: have less time for post production and film like I
Speaker 2: don't know. Again, I don't know big production.
Speaker 4: You have to have another another project in between Doomsday
Speaker 4: and Secret Wars.
Speaker 2: And but again, like we said, where do you release
Speaker 2: it on the schedule? Right that summer's pack?
Speaker 4: Mark show something?
Speaker 2: What does Disney have that they could shove? Hey, I'll
Speaker 2: pull up, let me put up.
Speaker 4: The Disney another avatar.
Speaker 2: No, that's funny. When is the next actually when is
Speaker 2: Oh they're not filming.
Speaker 4: They're not filming. Yeah, because he was gonna put it
Speaker 4: into a book.
Speaker 2: You dinna make two billion. It's over for you, James,
Speaker 2: You're out. So's right.
Speaker 4: I just be careful because I'm not sure what's rumor
Speaker 4: and what's.
Speaker 2: I'd say anything. Our GV discords rumored right now of
Speaker 2: the last like two hours that dropped in there. That's
Speaker 2: just rumored stuff going on. So so next year they
Speaker 2: got Frozen, three Starfighter and Avengers, Siegwars. There's probably other
Speaker 2: ones you got ice Age, you pushed ice Age, but
Speaker 2: that's February. Yeah. I think most they're big titles, Taylor
Speaker 2: are I guess you got Gatto? You got that movie
Speaker 2: coming out? That's a cat movie. It's a cat handmade movie.
Speaker 2: But I think most of them are some really heavy hitters,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 5: So yeah, mm yeah, Well that's tricky, but there's still
Speaker 5: some wiggle room, i'd say. So your initial question was
Speaker 5: regarding what do you think they or what do they show?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: What do they do in general? For this is a
Speaker 2: big pan almost on Doomsday? What do you think?
Speaker 5: I mean, what what else would they kind of show
Speaker 5: off with Doomsday? I mean I feel like we got
Speaker 5: the trailer and we got like other things have kind
Speaker 5: of been unveiled, Like with that trailer, a lot of
Speaker 5: stuff kind of is just like, Hey, here's the teams,
Speaker 5: here's all this stuff going down. So I don't really
Speaker 5: know what else they can kind of pivot to. I'm
Speaker 5: curious to see what hat fig he's wearing when he
Speaker 5: walks out on the stage.
Speaker 2: But it's gotta be a doomsday hat, right is it
Speaker 2: gonna be Doomsday?
Speaker 4: What if it's something else? Maybe it's a vision Quo.
Speaker 1: Or leimate vision quest. He has done that too, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah he has. Yeah. The only thing I guess we
Speaker 2: have talked about too before is like is it is
Speaker 2: it more? Are people in Doomsday that we didn't know?
Speaker 2: Like Chris said, they want least some as a surprise,
Speaker 2: but then there's probably still something they want to confirm,
Speaker 2: like we've always heard rummings and I don't think this
Speaker 2: this I'm referring to pass stuff right of like Okay,
Speaker 2: where's halle Berry? Right, you know, where's something the other store?
Speaker 2: Or like X Men people, where are some other variant people?
Speaker 2: You know, like that's the thing, or and again this
Speaker 2: is stuff of the of the past as well. Deadpool Deadpool,
Speaker 2: Ryan Rails was reported I can't remember at what point,
Speaker 2: but Deadline or like one of the A to your
Speaker 2: people reported that they were in that movie, right, So
Speaker 2: it's like, do you just roll him out? But at
Speaker 2: the same time, I just feel like, with how good
Speaker 2: that trailer, I'm sure they're gonna show some people tonight.
Speaker 2: We don't know. I don't know if you need to
Speaker 2: do that right now, Like I just feel like say
Speaker 2: that for the movie and then segar Wars. It's kind
Speaker 2: of like the no Way Home thing of like showing
Speaker 2: Toby and Andrew or did not not show them worked out?
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I think if you're having Deadpool, that's a safe.
Speaker 2: For that's a that's a a save one, you think.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, if you're showing Deadpool, you save that for
Speaker 3: the movie. You've got to get that pop. I mean,
Speaker 3: if you spoil it now, it's a waste.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think there's still gonna be one or two that
Speaker 1: they just they're gonna hold back on, you know. I
Speaker 1: it's it's almost for those when I'm thinking of that,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of a person that hasn't been in the MCU,
Speaker 1: like a Hugh Jackman in dead Pool. Kay, they've been there.
Speaker 1: We kind of expect them. Toby and Andrew. I'm still
Speaker 1: kind of fifty to fifty in the sense of do
Speaker 1: you reveal that or do you save that?
Speaker 2: You know, like for this what are secret wars you're saying,
Speaker 2: I say, just it you in general.
Speaker 1: If they happen to be in Doom, but they one
Speaker 1: of them have to be DOA It's just like I
Speaker 1: don't know if the juice is gonna be worth the
Speaker 1: squeeze on that one. I think It's almost like it
Speaker 1: was we all know but until you see it. Until
Speaker 1: Andrew came out of that portal, I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, it actually is happening, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And that's where to me, I feel like
Speaker 2: Secret Wars is where you save the That's when we're
Speaker 2: gonna do all the marketing, all the promoting. We're gonna
Speaker 2: have every because I always said that before. There is
Speaker 2: a case to Andrew Garfield not being Andrew until we
Speaker 2: not be in the promotion for knowing home you need
Speaker 2: some stuff. It worked out for them, But like I think,
Speaker 2: Secret Wars is when you do everything. I've said this before.
Speaker 2: It's a joke, but like the poster, you know that
Speaker 2: poster of Jackman Downy, Deadpool halland you know that type
Speaker 2: of stuff. But to get a through a few questions
Speaker 2: before we get to the show, because we had about
Speaker 2: seventeen minutes, I supposed says. We was listening to GV
Speaker 2: trailer breakdown for Doom. So you guys are talking about
Speaker 2: how it'd be too late to start filming and drop
Speaker 2: something next year. But random thought, what about something animated?
Speaker 2: Which would be interesting. I don't think it's impossible, it
Speaker 2: would just be crazy, because then I would have felt
Speaker 2: that they would have had to have been working on
Speaker 2: it and nobody had scooped that, which has happened. Right,
Speaker 2: there's things that people don't scoop and it just comes out.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't like if you were to tell me there's
Speaker 2: an animated like Marvel, and I wonder what it'd be,
Speaker 2: an MCU or like a one of Tail. I really
Speaker 2: don't know. I'd be very down for them to dip
Speaker 2: their toes into that, and that would be a good
Speaker 2: buffer in between the two, because I don't think that's
Speaker 2: gonna take away too hard from Doomsday. But yeah, what
Speaker 2: do you guys singing something in the anime or like
Speaker 2: some animated show or even a movie special surprise announcement
Speaker 2: for next year. I still think we got a good
Speaker 2: chance at like a special presentation announcement. That's another thing
Speaker 2: I think you could get to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, yeah, that's that's plausible. It's still hard
Speaker 1: in the sense of a live action thing that hasn't
Speaker 1: been filmed yet, especially with all the stuff, even if
Speaker 1: it's not a movie or TV show, that's still not
Speaker 1: a lot of time.
Speaker 2: No, but look at that Punisher one. I think that
Speaker 2: a quick turnaround right now. I'm not saying you would
Speaker 2: make it the size. It might be something bigger. But
Speaker 2: if you do something like that where hey we're gonna
Speaker 2: lock in it's one character, one environment, go, I think
Speaker 2: you could get something. And that's where maybe if you
Speaker 2: don't have a movie next year in between you can
Speaker 2: market that is the next big thing right in between
Speaker 2: Doomsday and Secret Wars is We're gonna make a really
Speaker 2: big special presentation on who. I really don't know, Like
Speaker 2: I feel like it has to be someone that's not
Speaker 2: not S tier but not B tier either, Like it
Speaker 2: has to be like like it's like it has to
Speaker 2: be a solid A. But I don't know who it
Speaker 2: would be, right, So I don't know, so, but i'd
Speaker 2: be done for some animation. Yeah, let's see. It'd be
Speaker 2: cool if we got the Alien preserve Predator news that
Speaker 2: you know what, that'd be cool if that was the
Speaker 2: animated movie. If it was there, they're like, we're a Marvel.
Speaker 4: Versus Predators or was it Alien punsh Verse Alien.
Speaker 2: Or Punch versus Predators the next one off? But that
Speaker 2: would be cool if they're like, hey, you know that
Speaker 2: Predator Marvel run we're gonna adapt that anime form. That
Speaker 2: would be all that would be. That would be a
Speaker 2: big pop that'd be really cool. You get Arnold on stage,
Speaker 2: you know, you get him in there. So let's see
Speaker 2: maybe a continuation of the Spider Man nineties series. I
Speaker 2: think if Paul I don't think it's happening, will Spierman
Speaker 2: uh friendly neighborhoods happening? But I think if that happened,
Speaker 2: i'd be D twenty three.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, you know, I mean, yeah, remember they
Speaker 1: they'll probably do some of their big stuff here, but yeah,
Speaker 1: D twenty three, it's uh, it's actually a real D
Speaker 1: twenty three this year, it's yeah, I think. So they're
Speaker 1: gonna have some things they're gonna put.
Speaker 2: Out there for that. That's happening on August fourteen, so
Speaker 2: just under a month from now, so they're still going
Speaker 2: to have stuff saved, you know. So let's see here.
Speaker 2: Oh look, someone someone reposts the stream. It looks like
Speaker 2: it's your bas intel, but I don't think it is.
Speaker 2: She didn't. I was just joking because it was like,
Speaker 2: what's going on there? So she's sister's back. Yeah, sure
Speaker 2: she could be the big surprise they did say that
Speaker 2: tang Nings was returning.
Speaker 1: Right yeh remember that show that we supposedly were getting it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they didn't uh and we uhh yeah, and
Speaker 2: they haven't said anything, right, So let's see what about
Speaker 2: this or devamped, revamped, revamped Defender show spinning off a
Speaker 2: born again?
Speaker 3: When we think about that, I don't know if I'm
Speaker 3: ready to see the full Defenders back. I think right now,
Speaker 3: just sticking with and making Daredevil as good as possible
Speaker 3: and then sprinkling in your stuff in there, it is
Speaker 3: the place to go right now, focus on the one
Speaker 3: and then and once you tell that complete store, if
Speaker 3: you didn't want to go off onto the others.
Speaker 4: Cool.
Speaker 3: But last time the Defenders seem like, all right, we're here,
Speaker 3: so we have to do this, like they built everything,
Speaker 3: and I felt like they kind of rushed some storylines
Speaker 3: to get to Defenders, and I don't want them to
Speaker 3: do that again.
Speaker 5: To piggyback again on that, and again I don't want
Speaker 5: to spoil anything because I just don't know. I know
Speaker 5: it was in a discord, but with a certain thing
Speaker 5: cut from brand New Day, I feel like, Okay, that's
Speaker 5: them maybe choosing not to go Defenders.
Speaker 4: I think that's okay, Okay, there she.
Speaker 2: Talked about that if that was a rumor, She talked
Speaker 2: about that at a panel that so she did confirm
Speaker 2: that she filmed a scene for Brand New Day and
Speaker 2: they cut it, which sucks because I'd have to see
Speaker 2: the scene, I imagine just for time wise. But I
Speaker 2: think it wasn't like a huge scene like I don't
Speaker 2: think it like but maybe they.
Speaker 5: Just don't think it's setting up anything like Defenders is
Speaker 5: coming or anything like that. I think it's like a
Speaker 5: Matt Murdock and No Way Home kind of thing, which
Speaker 5: is just cool to see.
Speaker 4: It just kind of fits the narrative.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just wanted them that would be cool for her,
Speaker 2: but I for me with Defenders, I think nothing of
Speaker 2: that ilk happens still after Daredevil, borning in season three
Speaker 2: to see how it all goes down. I think they're
Speaker 2: gonna wait on that. They're gonna see the reception of
Speaker 2: people are hype on it, then anounce it afterwards, because
Speaker 2: again we gotta remember there's a big drop from Daredevil
Speaker 2: season one to two for Born again for viewership. At
Speaker 2: the same time, it might not matter because if they're
Speaker 2: shooting it cheap enough they might go, hey, it's still
Speaker 2: hitting the numbers we're happy with, Like it's lower, but
Speaker 2: still happy with. We'll see, and I think we all
Speaker 2: know the Disney Plus stuff is gonna be a lot
Speaker 2: more you know, Netflix Era again where they're kind of
Speaker 2: be more smaller. So I think we won't know until
Speaker 2: after Born Again. If we're getting another Defenders, I'd be down,
Speaker 2: but I think it's a I'm like a fifty to
Speaker 2: fifty right now if it's happening. I think Jessica Jones
Speaker 2: something related is like, I'm a high ninety on that
Speaker 2: happening because I think that's easy. She's a detective. She's
Speaker 2: we're gonna take cases. You can have Luke a Pierre.
Speaker 2: You can know Iron Fist appear very easy, right, you know.
Speaker 1: Make it the show that all the randoms appear. You
Speaker 1: never know who's gonna come in week to week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they could. They can look at the Gorilla Groage
Speaker 2: Show and be like, hey, we're gonna do we got
Speaker 2: one of those detectives. We're gonna we're we're gonna have
Speaker 2: Jessica Jones do about this? Uh And Wambo says, I
Speaker 2: think the cast are gonna go on stage. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't think all the cast because obviously it's a huge
Speaker 2: cast to try and narrow down. But the rumors it's
Speaker 2: at least thirty actors, So I think the people are
Speaker 2: gonna get their show. So and this is interesting, I'll
Speaker 2: go back to the other one, dude, I says, I
Speaker 2: mean Hugh jack mer Toby announced it would blow th
Speaker 2: roofoff plays absolutely has totally ever been to comic con. Obviously,
Speaker 2: that wasn't happening in the those weren't happening in the
Speaker 2: rainy era, right for Spider Man. They didn't have panels
Speaker 2: like that, did they. No, I don't think so. So
Speaker 2: I was trying to think about that, right because I
Speaker 2: remember it was a couple oh with Brand New World.
Speaker 2: It was a huge deal when Ford win, right, because
Speaker 2: that was his first comic con. I think there's always
Speaker 2: those legends you should look at.
Speaker 3: And be like crutching he did in two thousand and
Speaker 3: six for Spider Man three, that was.
Speaker 2: The only one.
Speaker 3: That's the only one that he's done for.
Speaker 2: Which even then, what it is now it's like much big,
Speaker 2: like it's smaller, but the these panels bring the heat,
Speaker 2: and that's where it's like that would be cool to
Speaker 2: see him get that big reaction, that pig that big pop.
Speaker 2: But again, could you not do that next year? Right?
Speaker 2: If they do something for Secret Wars, they could do
Speaker 2: the same thing where if they're in there, roll them out,
Speaker 2: get those big reactions everything. I do think there's gonna
Speaker 2: be a panel next year. I am with Chris. I
Speaker 2: think the announcements will be light, but I think that'll
Speaker 2: just be like, uh, let's just hype up the crowd
Speaker 2: showing really cool people. Again, a photo on stage of
Speaker 2: just like that at the was it Comic Con or
Speaker 2: the Yeah, it was Comic Con when they had the
Speaker 2: first line up of the Avengers right like before they
Speaker 2: started filming. If you get that on stage photo of
Speaker 2: Downy Evans Hall and Hem's for Jackman, just like in Regularly,
Speaker 2: that's like, that's a cool for even the photo it
Speaker 2: didn't end up being cool. But when they when Fox
Speaker 2: was going hard in twenty thirteen and they announced the
Speaker 2: Wolverine the Gamut movie, fans four sick in Days of
Speaker 2: Future Pass. But remember that huge photo that had all
Speaker 2: like Michael B. Jordan's human torch and they had in there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and that was after Days of Future Pass where it
Speaker 2: was like, oh, there they actually are, like they're contenders again,
Speaker 2: they're rolling. It didn't go that way, but there it's
Speaker 2: always cool to get that vibe of everyone's together and
Speaker 2: it feels bigger than life. Right, So yeah, I really
Speaker 2: don't know. I think I'm with Chris that I would
Speaker 2: save them both. If you finally was to sit me down,
Speaker 2: I'd say, you don't need them right now, save them
Speaker 2: for you got a whole another movie to promote the
Speaker 2: I would say, for some reason, if the Doomsday tickets
Speaker 2: and trailer views were below their expectations, they go, you
Speaker 2: know what, maybe we do need some more juice. I
Speaker 2: think last week showed us they like, they're fine, they're perfectly.
Speaker 1: Thousand theaters and it outperforms did pull them overine.
Speaker 2: Yes, and it got very yeah, and it got very
Speaker 2: close to Spider Man brand New Day, and that had
Speaker 2: way more theaters on sale for like sale wise, right,
Speaker 2: it got similar numbers, and even trailer number two be
Speaker 2: fine behind Spider Man. That's good numbers.
Speaker 3: Two.
Speaker 2: I don't know which gonna beat each other, but I
Speaker 2: think they're still happy to be in that that realm there.
Speaker 1: But point we've been saying, like where's the trailer? Where's trailer?
Speaker 1: They don't need one? You know, that's still proved it
Speaker 1: that they they didn't even have to do five months out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they could do that. I've said, yeah, I think
Speaker 2: I said that on our episode where this could be
Speaker 2: the one trailer, and I think they'd be fine. I
Speaker 2: think they'd be completely fine. They wouldn't have to do
Speaker 2: more Spider Man. Look at it. Spider Man's been gone
Speaker 2: for five years and it's tracking. They're tracking right now
Speaker 2: is two sixty to three hundred domestic domestic. It could
Speaker 2: have a three hundred million opening domestic. You shouldn't be
Speaker 2: like that's and because I would have never. If I
Speaker 2: would have, I would have pizza bet someone that it
Speaker 2: wouldn't pass no way home. The fact that it could
Speaker 2: at least match or past it, I'm very surprised. So
Speaker 2: and again, he's been gone for five years. I know
Speaker 2: it's in the DC realm. That does give me hope
Speaker 2: for the Batman, because that's always been my worry of like,
Speaker 2: oh are people gonna it's gonna be too long. I
Speaker 2: think with Spider Man in that shows, Hey, if people
Speaker 2: love that property and that love that character and actor matching.
Speaker 2: They'll sit around for it and look at Holmes. It's
Speaker 2: tracking huge, right, So let's see here. I would be
Speaker 2: shocked if an Eternals actor walked down stage, but would
Speaker 2: welcome it. Who would be the one? Who would be
Speaker 2: the one eternal? I got one? But who Terry Styles?
Speaker 3: I would say, we see, I haven't figured out what
Speaker 3: happened to him after the post credits, like where are
Speaker 3: we going with him?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say it would be Kamel, And I
Speaker 2: don't even think I'm bullshit. I actually think Kamel would
Speaker 2: be like just because they had King going so much
Speaker 2: stuff there for a while, and he's like the glue
Speaker 2: that keeps them all together.
Speaker 3: So and his character with its comedic time in, plus
Speaker 3: his semi serious moments like you can slot him into whatever.
Speaker 3: So unless I don't see them doing Harrington, unless they
Speaker 3: plan on doing something with Marvel Knights at this point.
Speaker 2: No I don't. Yeah, I don't think so. And plus
Speaker 2: if and the Turnals are in there, I think they're
Speaker 2: just to be like killed off as fodder. You know,
Speaker 2: they're not sticking around past that tarror. What's the one
Speaker 2: Eternal that you can see in this?
Speaker 8: Well?
Speaker 4: I was thinking I was thinking styles for sure, that
Speaker 4: would be but no.
Speaker 5: The KINGO is that that's how you say.
Speaker 2: Is yeah, that's gonna Johnny.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I do feel like that's got to have the most,
Speaker 5: uh the most probability for sure. And I'm trying to
Speaker 5: remember what his project set was that he appeared in
Speaker 5: because it was what if right and then.
Speaker 2: What if the posters is. I can't remember if he
Speaker 2: was in Zombies, but he's his like images appeared in
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff because he's always starring in movies
Speaker 2: in the MCU so ye or the universe there. So
Speaker 2: where it is? We got six minutes left? Where does
Speaker 2: the panel stand on Spidey versus Doomsday? Box off? So
Speaker 2: we've got the trailer views, we got the tracking and stuff.
Speaker 2: Where are you dated right now on July twenty fifth
Speaker 2: to the twenty six gun in your head? Who is
Speaker 2: who's winning that battle.
Speaker 3: As it stands right now? I think Spidey's winning that battle?
Speaker 2: Really Okay, I'm still going to go in the ladder
Speaker 2: with Doomsday just because of surprises. And Mike asked this question.
Speaker 2: He's the one that got me onto this couple of
Speaker 2: years ago. The December box office can always be magic
Speaker 2: if you can, if you can find that and just
Speaker 2: have those families and keep going decem like we bring
Speaker 2: this all the time. Mufassa had like a forty million
Speaker 2: dollar opening week and everyone's like, oh, it's dead. At
Speaker 2: Bomb went on to make almost eight hundred million, just
Speaker 2: because it opened to that Christmas season where it's like, huh,
Speaker 2: let's go see this again. So I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go to Doomsday, but I think it would be close,
Speaker 2: like within one hundred, one fifty, even two hundred. It
Speaker 2: depends how good Doomsday is, obviously right, I.
Speaker 3: Think Spidey running unopposed helps him. And I also think
Speaker 3: the the child aspect of Spidey because as a dad,
Speaker 3: you know, when you're taking your family, you're more inclined
Speaker 3: to do that one than you are to as an adult.
Speaker 3: We'll all seen Doomsday and then you know, if it's good,
Speaker 3: then we'll me and the kids will watch it on streaming.
Speaker 3: As opposed to Spidey, that's more the you've got the summertime,
Speaker 3: you got the kids and everything else. It's running unopposed
Speaker 3: as to where Doomsday's you know, they don't have that
Speaker 3: imax screening. They've got their their fake vision going. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't see them getting those numbers.
Speaker 2: All right, Chris, where are you at then? Right now?
Speaker 1: Because this is this kind of ties into my overall
Speaker 1: factor fiction for the year, that only one is gonna
Speaker 1: make it to a billion? You know?
Speaker 2: Oh do you feel that? Do you do you feel there?
Speaker 2: Do you feel like you're wrong on that one?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: Maybe I feel like they're both in the billion now.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think they're both gonna hit a bill
Speaker 1: And I think there's gonna be one. I think I
Speaker 1: think there's gonna be one that's gonna stand out versus
Speaker 1: the other. I gotta stick I gotta stick with them.
Speaker 1: I can't put it out there. I stick with it.
Speaker 1: But which one's gonna be the box office champion? I
Speaker 1: think I'll lean towards Spider Man just because of the
Speaker 1: kind of global recognition of the character in this in
Speaker 1: a G A friendly GA friendliness with it. Avengers, I
Speaker 1: want to felt better about the Avengers if the recent
Speaker 1: phases did better, did better. I think I think the
Speaker 1: lead in has hurt has hurt the Avengers. Brandon and
Speaker 1: We've all said it, the biggest mistake this the three
Speaker 1: phases have made is that it's taken us as long
Speaker 1: to get to an Avengers movie, and absolutely that's hurt it.
Speaker 2: I do wonder though with the with the family Friendly
Speaker 2: does have that. But as we saw No Way Home,
Speaker 2: if you save those people like a Jackman or Toby
Speaker 2: of their surprises, it does get that. You gotta go
Speaker 2: see it, You gotta go, you gotta go check it out.
Speaker 2: So kay Taylor, so far the Marvel Lince guys with
Speaker 2: me or not with me? Where are you now?
Speaker 3: You?
Speaker 2: You are you turning against you? Betraying your own race?
Speaker 2: As it say an avatar.
Speaker 5: I mean I was just looking at the earnings. I
Speaker 5: mean you got with Spider Man versus Avengers films.
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 2: All Avengers have made a billion, Spider Man only has
Speaker 2: two billions. Yeah, that's but it's been a while, I mean,
Speaker 2: and Tom Holans stock has raised, and Dais stock.
Speaker 5: Has raised, you know it is, and I think that's
Speaker 5: just yeah, I mean, it's been a it's been a break,
Speaker 5: and I feel like there was kind of back back
Speaker 5: in the day after No Way Home. I me, being
Speaker 5: who I am, wasn't sure if we're gonna get Tom
Speaker 5: Hall and Spider Man again. I mean, maybe at some
Speaker 5: point in the future depending on how things go, but
Speaker 5: things things seem very murky, and it's just like okay,
Speaker 5: like like are we gonna get it?
Speaker 4: What are they gonna do here?
Speaker 5: It just it seemed like, you know, at the end
Speaker 5: of the day, like Disney can't just like pull that car.
Speaker 5: You gotta work with Sony, right because Sony's got a
Speaker 5: little bit of leverage on that character too. So it's
Speaker 5: me and I'm sure others might have just been like
Speaker 5: a little bit apprehensive. But then when you look at
Speaker 5: what Avengers is pulling in, Yeah, my god, like if
Speaker 5: Finny War two billion, end Game two point seven worldwide.
Speaker 2: Even there lois what's Ultron?
Speaker 4: It's Ultron one point something just under one point four.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's where I for me, I think, I
Speaker 2: think for me, I'm on the other side, Chris, where
Speaker 2: I think they're both hitting a billion. Now with Spider Man,
Speaker 2: it's like a this hype for Spider Man's way bigger
Speaker 2: than I thought I always saw I would have hype.
Speaker 2: But it just really feels like people miss Tom Hall
Speaker 2: and as Spider Man, and I do think this is
Speaker 2: like the the previews have been good. I haven't loved
Speaker 2: the trailers, but I think for the general audience I have,
Speaker 2: so I think I'm in the camp where I think
Speaker 2: they're both hitting one point five. I don't think anyone's
Speaker 2: hitting too. The only way I think Doomsay can hit
Speaker 2: two if it is yeah, only way if if the
Speaker 2: Russo's pull off a huge miracle and it's like great, great, like.
Speaker 2: But even if it's not the call, even Finny war
Speaker 2: An endgame just a notch below that, then I could
Speaker 2: see it getting those like like a Project Hill Mary
Speaker 2: where it's like you've got to go back and witness
Speaker 2: this event. But there's a lot of things to a
Speaker 2: lot of plates to spin on that one. So I
Speaker 2: really don't know.
Speaker 4: Spider Man the Edge real quick.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be delaying the panel. The last one was late.
Speaker 2: Okay, it was late, Okay, thank you. So there you go.
Speaker 5: I guess Spider mand a little bit of an edge
Speaker 5: two because it's not just a standalone superhero movie here. Obviously,
Speaker 5: Hulk is you know, Savage Hulk, but you have Bruce
Speaker 5: Banner's Hulk returning, and you've got what was the other.
Speaker 4: Castle. Yeah, so you've got a few.
Speaker 5: Other interconnected characters here that are enjoining the fold here,
Speaker 5: plus characters we haven't even we're not even aware of
Speaker 5: that they could just throw into which is pretty exciting.
Speaker 4: So I I do think that both of them are
Speaker 4: going to make a billion I really do.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh so we're in the stage now, so it
Speaker 2: is something where we will talk about boots on the ground.
Speaker 2: So this is no longer spoilers. This is stuff that
Speaker 2: people are sitting there and talking about. There was a
Speaker 2: report that someone said that hale H that there was
Speaker 2: a revving of a motorcycle inside hall H. It's Adri
Speaker 2: that there was a revving motorcycle. So I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: say who. I'm just gonna say that, so I won't
Speaker 2: say that part. But man, if that person does roll
Speaker 2: out on a motorcycle, that is you know, yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: we're I think we're here, We're here. We could talk
Speaker 2: about it there for years. It's just him.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, let me tell you something.
Speaker 2: Spider man. Hey, he could be a cosmic ghost rider, right,
Speaker 2: but God.
Speaker 1: Don't tempt me with that.
Speaker 4: Don't even say that.
Speaker 2: I always, I always, I thought for a while, because
Speaker 2: I know some people have said that Bertonell's in Secret Wars.
Speaker 1: My diet that moment.
Speaker 2: I always thought when the rumors that he was in Seaquars,
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I think he's Cosmic ghost Rider. I
Speaker 2: really do, because I was like, what's the punish you're
Speaker 2: gonna do in Secret Wars? Like I know, like I
Speaker 2: love Frank Castle, but at this point, even though these
Speaker 2: clips of sperimen like I have to see the movie,
Speaker 2: but when I saw that clip of him being scared
Speaker 2: of the Hulk, I was like, oh no, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's really gonna test when Frank when he said like
Speaker 2: I gotta make sure Frank Castle stays the same one
Speaker 2: to one and everything like that. I really got to
Speaker 2: see the MSB how people are gonna react to those
Speaker 2: comments because I feel like that clipping, oh, just like
Speaker 2: we'll see and it's like, okay, Punisher on Battle World,
Speaker 2: what we're gonna do, I don't know, but Cosmic ghost Rider,
Speaker 2: you know, there we go.
Speaker 1: So I think that's I mean, despite Taylor as an
Speaker 1: admiration for that character, I think that's I think just
Speaker 1: Rayer Ghostwrider at that point is where people they were
Speaker 1: like Cosmic ghost Rider, what happened? What they're gonna get that,
Speaker 1: why skip a few beats?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but they might already get that. Loki, right, people,
Speaker 2: they didn't watch that show. They're gonna go from Loki
Speaker 2: being dead to what's this dude doing?
Speaker 1: Send in a chair, you know, into Loki beat being
Speaker 1: very much less antagonistic, more more on the side of
Speaker 1: the angels. Like really, at the end of that, he
Speaker 1: is no longer an antagonist. He's he's on the side
Speaker 1: of the angels.
Speaker 5: I think they could easily just give a very brief
Speaker 5: thing like, hey, I'm the low key who got away
Speaker 5: in endgame, you know, because they did.
Speaker 2: Yeah deadful looks of the screen. You remember the one
Speaker 2: that went to end game, that's him, and they just.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, we've been begging for it
Speaker 1: an endgame, we didn't get it. We need Louise to
Speaker 1: tell the story of the MC at that moment. We
Speaker 1: need come.
Speaker 2: I think Quantumated killed your chances.
Speaker 1: Find they're like a white problem with that movie.
Speaker 2: No, he wasn't. He wasn't. But I feel like that
Speaker 2: for every saga, I wonder what's gonna happen when we
Speaker 2: get to the immune saga. Every saga now has that
Speaker 2: one movie where they're like, we're not really gonna talk
Speaker 2: about that. That was incredible Hulk for the first saga, Well
Speaker 2: a bad movie, but like, you know what, that's its
Speaker 2: own thing over there, like but they didn't, right, they
Speaker 2: didn't refer to it. There's no actors brought back. It
Speaker 2: was like you did not even have to watch that
Speaker 2: movie to understand Mark Ruffles Hulk, same thing Kuwanta Man.
Speaker 2: That just feels like, uh, a weird acid trip that
Speaker 2: Scott took one weekend and you know we.
Speaker 1: Can say that for the movie, said that we have
Speaker 1: secret invasion for the for the streaming side.
Speaker 2: Absolutely a secret in vision for sure. Is that? Yeah,
Speaker 2: And luckily I don't I think the first phase doesn't
Speaker 2: even have that, like a second one. I think people
Speaker 2: were thinking that could have been Dark World, but then
Speaker 2: dark World's like a vital part and end game, so
Speaker 2: they even brought that in. We're like, no, dark World,
Speaker 2: It's part of the family, you know, like if anything.
Speaker 2: The only thing they don't refer to, you know, because
Speaker 2: they're bad. But I remember they used to deal with
Speaker 2: those what were they what were the shorts in between?
Speaker 2: They had the one with Colson at the gas station.
Speaker 2: They had the one with uh they like the scientists,
Speaker 2: the original one that were one yes, yeah, the Marvel
Speaker 2: one shots, Return of the King and all those. Yeah,
Speaker 2: team Thor, we had that one that like like prep
Speaker 2: people foot that Thor was gonna be but uh, anyway,
Speaker 2: so yes, Pard, there's a motorcycle reving. We have heard
Speaker 2: this for a long time. Ryan Gosling has said, Hey,
Speaker 2: my favorite malt character's ghostwriter, which is always none that's
Speaker 2: bad thing. It just was always a weird sentence always
Speaker 2: to see like okay, and.
Speaker 4: He's talking walks out though, holding Ryan Goslings.
Speaker 2: Like holding him. Yeah, well again that's you could do
Speaker 2: that Seawards And that's where I don't know, but that's
Speaker 2: where it comes down to. So they both spoke about
Speaker 2: this the rumor today well, and Daniel rp k I
Speaker 2: put in the B tier. He put this out most
Speaker 2: of the time when scoopers are putting out stuff a
Speaker 2: night before or the day before, it's happening, right, And
Speaker 2: that's where he put it out this morning. So clearly
Speaker 2: somebody saw something. The rumor is he is in San
Speaker 2: Diego and he put out that he's cast a ghosts right, right,
Speaker 2: But I don't know what that tells us. I think
Speaker 2: I don't think by any shot it's a special presentation
Speaker 2: or a Soulo movie. I don't think that's where you
Speaker 2: go with Ghostwriter. Right now, it's just a question of
Speaker 2: is this a Doomsday Secret Wars casting or is this
Speaker 2: the confirmation of the Midnight Sun's movie, which I would
Speaker 2: It's been seven fucking years. It's been seven years. Let's
Speaker 2: get Mahershallie back on stage and they can make a
Speaker 2: joke and say we're making Midnight Suns and Marshall he's
Speaker 2: gonna be in this fucking movie. We got Oscars, he's
Speaker 2: back from Egypt. We got Ryan Gossing has ghost Rider.
Speaker 2: You're gonna fucking love this movie.
Speaker 1: Not Doctor Strange.
Speaker 2: We've got Yeah, we got Ben the Coombra match. We
Speaker 2: got that. So that's what I hope what happened. But yes,
Speaker 2: that seems to be the room that Ryan Gossing is there.
Speaker 2: There's a motorcycle reving in hall. H that's gonna be
Speaker 2: a fucking battle.
Speaker 1: Might his skull on fire? And bey, he did fall?
Speaker 1: He did fall guy, so you know he did.
Speaker 2: He's ready for it.
Speaker 4: So is he done filming Starfighter? I'm just thinking, oh, it's.
Speaker 2: Not rocked a few months ago. I think they might
Speaker 2: do some.
Speaker 4: Hurrsh shoots and yeah, but available.
Speaker 2: And again, like I promise you, there's gonna be tons
Speaker 2: of time that he'll won't be around for ghost w Rider.
Speaker 2: It's like Sean Gunn right, like he played Rocket Raccoon
Speaker 2: and Rat were the boys.
Speaker 1: This is a question who are we getting with him?
Speaker 1: Are we getting Johnny Blaze? Are we getting Danny Ketch? Now,
Speaker 1: Danny Ketch was my ghost Rider just when I grew up,
Speaker 1: and I'm I don't have any I love Johnny Blaze,
Speaker 1: but Danny will always be my ghost Rider.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wouldn't be the other one. We don't want to
Speaker 2: like Ray Swap.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we did get that in Agents of Shield
Speaker 1: and it was he did great and.
Speaker 2: They should bring him back. He's a great as should
Speaker 2: you know. I I wouldn't mind Donny because in the
Speaker 2: same way that Taya's asked about Nick Cage or Danny Sorry,
Speaker 2: you could like have that together then you could still
Speaker 2: kick around the Nick Cage, Johnny Blade, Secret Wars thing.
Speaker 2: I know those variants, but still if it doesn't have
Speaker 2: to be a variant and Nick Cage is still Johnny
Speaker 2: Blaze's universe. That'd be fun. I think there's something really weird,
Speaker 2: not like actually weird, but just full circle thing. The
Speaker 2: person that played Johnny Cage's or Nick Cage's love interest
Speaker 2: in that movie was Ava Mendez. If he if Ryan
Speaker 2: Gosling is cast as Johnny Blaze, that is his wife
Speaker 2: and the mother of his children, I'm saying that happy
Speaker 2: you need to bring her back to but just like
Speaker 2: have her. But I think I would prefer him, not
Speaker 2: prefer like I'm not gonna pay Oh my god, but
Speaker 2: sure don't you join Blaze, like show some more ghost
Speaker 2: writers around, right, So I'd say the second if I.
Speaker 3: Had, yeah, I'm I'm down for which every one that
Speaker 3: they choose, I think it would there could be a
Speaker 3: cool moment where, especially if this is in Secret Wars,
Speaker 3: where you see him in full ghost rider flaming skull
Speaker 3: at first and someone says Johnny and he corrects him
Speaker 3: and says, no, he's Danny, and then that's how we
Speaker 3: set up, and you just go for it from there,
Speaker 3: no other explanation, just nope, you guys are used to
Speaker 3: this one, but I'm this one, and I'm the one
Speaker 3: going forward.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I I know it goes right as fan,
Speaker 2: there are people gonna be like really mad of like
Speaker 2: if he's not Johnny Blaze.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I got mad at everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, You're right. I mean genuine people. And
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about people drifting or just said that
Speaker 2: are mad for everything. You know. So how are.
Speaker 5: People reacting to, uh not having Johnny Blaze and the
Speaker 5: Asians of Shield like the Robbie Raey's version.
Speaker 2: Well, no one was reacting because only about Tempe. You'll
Speaker 2: watch that show, Taylor. That's the problem that no. I
Speaker 2: thought it was fine when it happened. I don't think
Speaker 2: there was like a big I thought it was actually cool,
Speaker 2: Like when it got announced, it's like, okay, cool another
Speaker 2: ghost Rider, you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I mean they got to use him because
Speaker 5: Disney canceled that show right on Hulu shoost to get
Speaker 5: so right, I forgot.
Speaker 2: They were it has to be with Robbie Reyes. Well
Speaker 2: that's what they said, right, But we talked about the
Speaker 2: last name of the snyer cut right, they told you
Speaker 2: Zach Snayer. There's a reason he couldn't use John Stewart.
Speaker 2: And here we are five to six years later. Finally
Speaker 2: that reason's popped up. They're like, see, we told you
Speaker 2: why you couldn't you couldn't use him. So Kevin daza as,
Speaker 2: people will not see no Midnight Suns sap y'all. They'll
Speaker 2: see that Midnight Sun's I just pitched. Marshally has played
Speaker 2: Ryan Gosling as ghost rider Oscar Isaac is Moonnight you
Speaker 2: got to build up. I don't think you're wrong. Kevin
Speaker 2: was like, I think there's it is a somewhat risky property,
Speaker 2: but I think if you star set it up, there
Speaker 2: is a way you can get a successful run with it.
Speaker 3: We mentioned this on Marvel Alliance, like Midnight Suns would
Speaker 3: be a perfect October Halloween style run. You can do
Speaker 3: You can do a couple of episodes instead of just
Speaker 3: having its own movie or its own special presentations. Spread
Speaker 3: out a little bit, give it four episodes over October
Speaker 3: and boom, there you go. That's your gap filler right there.
Speaker 2: But if you got Ali Gosling and Oscar, then there's
Speaker 2: that's gonna go theatrical, right, you got to put that
Speaker 2: in the theater there. So tras Hyan so DC Lions hosts,
Speaker 2: let's blame the Hulk on Universal that was the sol
Speaker 2: first film besides Norton on Running Style. Yeah, I'm a
Speaker 2: big defender. I love the incredible Hulk. Yeah yeah, I
Speaker 2: was never on that bandwagon as far. It's like, and
Speaker 2: I feel like it's been reappreciated, which is nice, but
Speaker 2: I remember it always was looked at as like, oh,
Speaker 2: the weakest of the first phase. Even with Iron Man two,
Speaker 2: because people love down he was like, oh but halk No,
Speaker 2: I love talk. I still I wish we got liv
Speaker 2: Tyler back. I did not love what happened with Abomination.
Speaker 2: I wish we got him on Thunderbolts in that team.
Speaker 2: But uh yeah, So now it's han to start yet.
Speaker 2: It seems like soon they've handed out capes and masks
Speaker 2: to the attendees, so we should be getting something in
Speaker 2: our top twenty for it was Yeah, check out that
Speaker 2: episode for Marvel Alliance, uh three hundred. Yeah. So so yeah,
Speaker 2: it seelings like it'll be starting any minute now, and
Speaker 2: then yeah, we'll updated as we go. We'll be watching stuff,
Speaker 2: You're throwing questions everything like that. It's uh, I love
Speaker 2: these times. That's what I'll say before we get going.
Speaker 1: I love do you think Cathline comes across the stage.
Speaker 2: I would love it. I would I would love it.
Speaker 2: I do think now he was my fan, he was
Speaker 2: my fancst. I think we've now reached the age where
Speaker 2: he's probably too old to do it. But uh no,
Speaker 2: these always work, Like I say, like election nights, folks,
Speaker 2: where we're getting news hot and heavy, we got to
Speaker 2: confirm it a couple of times before we say it.
Speaker 2: If you see something putting in the chat, if it
Speaker 2: if it's wrong, you're gonna get hit with two things.
Speaker 2: You're gonna get hit with two things. You're gonna get
Speaker 2: hit with this First, if you're just a lying to us,
Speaker 2: and then I'm gonna ban you. I'm gonna ban you
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna block you if it If you got accidentally,
Speaker 2: that's fine, But if it's it's a troll, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: you're gonna you'll get you got a time I want
Speaker 2: to ban you' all you get any time out. But no,
Speaker 2: I'm very excited. I love doing this, you guys. I
Speaker 2: love that we can do this. I love that, you know,
Speaker 2: even if it's every two years, we can get together
Speaker 2: and see what happens. And now it's like the calm
Speaker 2: before the storm. So I love that we can have
Speaker 2: some fun and uh hope hopefully it's a good next
Speaker 2: hour with some surprises and some reveals.
Speaker 3: And these Doctor Doom masks look like something straight out
Speaker 3: of Walmart.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. They run the wrapping plat Yeah that
Speaker 2: plastic on I saw, Yeah, it's I could. I could
Speaker 2: screen share all wait and because we got nothing else
Speaker 2: to show, right, so I'll screen share that. But you
Speaker 2: know it's still a cool, a cool little air. I
Speaker 2: looom you get there? Right for showing up? I gotta
Speaker 2: close some tabs. They can feel like computer check along.
Speaker 2: But there you go. There's the there's the mask. What's wrong, Taylor?
Speaker 2: You don't want that mask?
Speaker 4: No, that's it's free though.
Speaker 2: It's free though it's a cape, right you get.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna spare no expense and give like
Speaker 1: five hundred people and they're just the best quality.
Speaker 5: Come on, how much are tickets to get in? I'm
Speaker 5: sure they can afford quality masks.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, if they do Midnight Suns, Lilith would have
Speaker 2: to be the villain along with uh Lilian Lilian, lil Lilan.
Speaker 2: I don't know who why is that not? Uh? Uh,
Speaker 2: Lili's may like buzzing the mind, but who the heck's
Speaker 2: Lilian or Lilian?
Speaker 1: Oh god, they're wearing them too.
Speaker 2: There you go. I don't think you have to, but
Speaker 2: don't forget. They did cast me a Goth as Lilith
Speaker 2: for the Blade movie.
Speaker 4: So I can spawned by Lilith.
Speaker 2: That's Lilan, Okay, it's just like a sun kid veryan okay.
Speaker 2: And again me a Goth would be a great actress
Speaker 2: to add as that lead there. So Vince Moore said,
Speaker 2: I would love to see if someone I would love
Speaker 2: if someone sees X twenty three. Yeah, I don't. I
Speaker 2: think that's still secret war stuff, just because if we
Speaker 2: do pick it with uh, Wolverine and Deadpool at some
Speaker 2: point she was with them, right like when that movie ended.
Speaker 1: Taking the stage, who else Herbie has taken her?
Speaker 2: Great, folks, that's the one. That's the reveal.
Speaker 1: That's say, I told you a surprise, right, I grew
Speaker 1: out to Herbie the Robot on stage.
Speaker 2: So there you go. So, and that's it's gonna be
Speaker 2: interesting how this goes. It's gonna be interesting what they
Speaker 2: start with and with, et cetera.
Speaker 4: So in season two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sam Jackson walks out. We're gonna make it right.
Speaker 1: You know, we promised this was alive. We hold, we
Speaker 1: did a whole Avengers movie. We filmed it, no one
Speaker 1: knew about it. We're gonna put it out in between
Speaker 1: Doomsday and Secret Wars because you know it can't only
Speaker 1: have one movie a year, you know that.
Speaker 2: That? Yeah, yeah, geez.
Speaker 1: That's what's gonna happen next year, though, they're only gonna
Speaker 1: have Secret Wars, which really that's all they need.
Speaker 2: As of right now. I thinks it was a secret movie,
Speaker 2: no secret.
Speaker 1: Live action movie.
Speaker 2: Imagine if they that's why they're announcing Ryan Reynold or
Speaker 2: Gossips ghost Rider. They're just gonna shoot a movie on
Speaker 2: the volume, like within two weeks and just throw it
Speaker 2: out there, a ghost all in hell entirely and yeah,
Speaker 2: he just running around and they're gonna they're like I
Speaker 2: imagine they just dick over lucasfilm. They release it before Starfighter.
Speaker 2: They do in like March to like beat them to
Speaker 2: the Project Hill Mary Hype, like we're gonna put that
Speaker 2: movie out first.
Speaker 5: So I mean, when you look at just sidetention with Doomsday,
Speaker 5: obviously there's no strange. No, well the whole clear. We
Speaker 5: don't know how that's going with the Latvian witch robes
Speaker 5: and stuff and that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4: But like, I just it would be cool if that was.
Speaker 5: Kind of where they tie into Ghost Rider. If Doctor
Speaker 5: Straine's going going with Clea and then that's where Ghost
Speaker 5: riders in that plane, because.
Speaker 4: I feel like that was what they did for a
Speaker 4: soul there you go, Ultimate Alliance three.
Speaker 5: Isn't that kind of what they did to introduce Rider
Speaker 5: when you locked him travel they did he.
Speaker 2: Was in the dark dimension. Yeah, he's a portal opened
Speaker 2: up and his biking flying in, so he absolutely fits
Speaker 2: in that realm, right, And that's where another thing I
Speaker 2: would say because Chris brought it up, but I it's
Speaker 2: tough with what you do is strange. But if you
Speaker 2: did want to get of Midnight Suns some like actual hotsbah, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you put Bennet at Cumberbatch in there, and that that
Speaker 2: gives you that's an as t your Marvel character. I'll say, Hi,
Speaker 2: a tier that helps a movie like that, So there
Speaker 2: is a way to make that happen. It's just like
Speaker 2: do they want to right, Like do they look at
Speaker 2: that and go oh, you know, is it worth it
Speaker 2: trying to do is like a somewhat of a horror
Speaker 2: movie or people gonna be in that. But at the
Speaker 2: same time, someone could argue and say, hey, whoor is
Speaker 2: like the goddamn rage right now? Right like, definitely go
Speaker 2: do that, Like look at all the look at you know,
Speaker 2: they'll say, look up sessional, the back rooms, we could
Speaker 2: do that. What's Curry Barker doing. Let's get him to
Speaker 2: do Midnight Suns. But no, I think that's the thing
Speaker 2: where it's just like there's there's ways to make it
Speaker 2: a hit. It's just a question of what do you
Speaker 2: do right So and I agree if I really want
Speaker 2: Sasha Barrycole and Asma fiss so, I would love him
Speaker 2: to be back. So yes, man, that sucks for I'm
Speaker 2: really excited for the Carry show that Mike Flangan's directing
Speaker 2: and they're having their panel right now. Cong Con. That's
Speaker 2: bad time in my brother. I'm so I'll watch that
Speaker 2: trailer in a bit. But yeah, i'd love befit still
Speaker 2: back big time. I love I loved a little bit
Speaker 2: with that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was worth by night a part of uh
Speaker 5: Midnight Suns as well.
Speaker 4: I think he could be he has a real man thing.
Speaker 2: Yes, man thing, yeah, thing definitely has okay, and then
Speaker 2: else a bloodstone but again not like the biggest like
Speaker 2: actress I got for that, but still why not you
Speaker 2: know you could?
Speaker 1: That's the fun part about like Midnight Suns, Like you
Speaker 1: can have a rotating group of people. It's now it's
Speaker 1: you know one cause look like the Avengers. But like
Speaker 1: I think Midnight Sun's really has a rotating group of
Speaker 1: people a part of it.
Speaker 2: It doesn't feel like I said, like even with X Men,
Speaker 2: everyone's always like I feel like the two teams are
Speaker 2: pitching are the og cast or a ninety seven cast, right, Like,
Speaker 2: there's tons of X Men teams, but those are the
Speaker 2: two Avengers.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have a captain in America, You're gonna have
Speaker 1: an iron Man, like there are certain people. Like that's
Speaker 1: when you really surprise people when you have none of
Speaker 1: those people on the team.
Speaker 2: But with Midnight Suns, I feel like you said, you
Speaker 2: have lots of room to spread your wings back. We're
Speaker 2: gonna do whatever we kind of want here, you know,
Speaker 2: so you know, but uh no, yeah, I know he
Speaker 2: does play my games with regular heroes. But I feel
Speaker 2: like for the GA. If he's like kind of a
Speaker 2: representation of the devil, maybe just keep him with the
Speaker 2: supernatural stuff for now, you know, like just to get
Speaker 2: that to get that going right, because even just stuff
Speaker 2: like Moonlight or Blade and Vamp, people always brought that
Speaker 2: up to like in the MCU they set up here,
Speaker 2: how do you have vampires for some people? That will
Speaker 2: be a thing that it hit like hurts our head
Speaker 2: a bit to be like, right, like in Iron Man,
Speaker 2: I guess vampires around two. So I think you do
Speaker 2: have to find a way to naturally build that. You
Speaker 2: can't just like throw it in there, right. So look
Speaker 2: at the build up from Iron Man to Endgame, and
Speaker 2: Iron Man feels like a pretty ground in movie, right,
Speaker 2: But then they slowly built to getting to a guy
Speaker 2: obsessed with powerful storms.
Speaker 1: You know, I kind of want to put this down
Speaker 1: there because I was watching some things and get me thinking,
Speaker 1: you know that talking about, oh, there's been no build
Speaker 1: up to Doom. There's been no build up to Doom,
Speaker 1: and started kind of doing math and as I always
Speaker 1: joke around that I was promised taking on this role
Speaker 1: that there would be no math with this the car
Speaker 1: there would like looking at Thanos and how many appeers
Speaker 1: to this Stanos and how much time with Thanos. It's
Speaker 1: not a lot. We're looking at three or four appearances.
Speaker 1: We're looking at what maybe amount to less than almost
Speaker 1: five minutes of screen time before we get to Infinity War.
Speaker 2: Like the Avengers end credits are really nothing, right, they're
Speaker 2: just he smiles and then he says final do myself.
Speaker 2: And the most I think, I think the only reason,
Speaker 2: which I'm definitely guilty of too, I think it's just
Speaker 2: because because he was in those scenes that just always
Speaker 2: felt like the looming threat, right, it was the appendance and.
Speaker 1: I and that's that's the argument to say, Okay, I
Speaker 1: get it, But I think the real argument when people
Speaker 1: are saying build up, it's not because doom hasn't been present.
Speaker 1: It's the disjointedness of what this has been. So if
Speaker 1: you want to talk about that, I'll hear you. But
Speaker 1: if you think, oh, he wasn't there, it's like, really, Fantis,
Speaker 1: it wasn't there either.
Speaker 5: But yeah, goals, right, because that's I mean, they hint
Speaker 5: that the goals are getting the Infinity Stones little by little,
Speaker 5: and the main MCU is building towards that.
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying the disjointness of the exactly
Speaker 1: has created that versus Doom versus Stanos being ever present there.
Speaker 2: And I think that's exactly it, because I'm not because
Speaker 2: I've seen that that's been a big debate this week
Speaker 2: of like, oh well, dar Vay didn't have any build up.
Speaker 2: I get that. My worry is with doctor Doom. Is
Speaker 2: not that. My worry is the rest of the movie building.
Speaker 2: This movie is again to actually flow and just downy
Speaker 2: playing them, not acting wise, it's just how they do
Speaker 2: the if his face, if his mask comes off when
Speaker 2: we see his face, how they get to roll with that, right,
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying it's gonna be bad. I would
Speaker 2: have preferred still in general, and I'll have to see
Speaker 2: the story if it was a newer actor, just because
Speaker 2: I even hate like what I can't remember. There's a
Speaker 2: rumor again recently for another person. It was just like, oh,
Speaker 2: you know, like, isn't there isn't there? Oh shit, okay,
Speaker 2: Ryan Koudler's and attendance, okay, So but isn't there Like
Speaker 2: there's so many actors and I just don't want to
Speaker 2: always recycle the same ones, right like this for how
Speaker 2: Brolind did to Fantos, this could have been someone that
Speaker 2: for Doom, right, So that's where I have to wait
Speaker 2: and see these movies. That's where I am more of
Speaker 2: my issues with due not Actually, I believe they can
Speaker 2: make him a believable threat, and I believe down they
Speaker 2: can do a great job. But just like other things
Speaker 2: around that, you know. So, but again, we won't know
Speaker 2: until December sixteenth when those credits roll to see what
Speaker 2: it's like, right, I we really won't know until we
Speaker 2: see it.
Speaker 3: All.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's gonna be very diverse of moos.
Speaker 2: So so, yeah, it said Ryan Cooler was in tendance,
Speaker 2: But is he just like because I know they said
Speaker 2: some people are in chairs, like in the audience sitting.
Speaker 2: Is he there? Is he actually on stage right now?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I haven't seen anything that says that he's on stage.
Speaker 3: Just the Herbie opening.
Speaker 2: Like I said, this is where it comes down, this
Speaker 2: is the this is the this is the Herby.
Speaker 3: Came out to tell them that they weren't ready yet.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, so Herby was just kicking off Okay, yeah, yeah, put.
Speaker 1: The robot out there. The fans are gonna be ravenous.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they can tear him apart. Uh and Wama says.
Speaker 2: Wamba says, the multiverse are gonna start with low key
Speaker 2: the Knowing Home Multiverse of Madness. Am N three, Well
Speaker 2: it's there, my M and three has definitely gone. Now
Speaker 2: Devolve Rain, brand new World. Thunderbolt's fantastic. For there is
Speaker 2: like a makeshift one you can do. And that's where
Speaker 2: I always I did push back on some of the
Speaker 2: just joining us because I never understood, like around Loki time,
Speaker 2: people like, I don't get it. We'll we're build towards
Speaker 2: and it's like that whole season gave you a whole
Speaker 2: roadmap of like what's going on, the incursions. There's a
Speaker 2: great multiverse role war gonna happen. Now. Obviously the Kang
Speaker 2: thing happened, and then that was a big Roe bump
Speaker 2: where it was you know, we had to kind of
Speaker 2: zig and zag. But I think in Phase four, which
Speaker 2: I'm a defender of, I actually love Phase four. I
Speaker 2: think the issues start more in Phase five. But with
Speaker 2: Phase four they were laying the groundwork for hey, this
Speaker 2: is where we're going. But then you know, Kang happened
Speaker 2: in kind of a hiccup, right.
Speaker 1: So especially I'm with you. I really love Phase four
Speaker 1: because it's kind of like a longer version of what
Speaker 1: we had with Ironman three. What happens when you just
Speaker 1: dealt with like basically, he died and it dealt with that.
Speaker 1: So that's what Ironman three is, you know, for people
Speaker 1: who love it or hate it at that point, that's
Speaker 1: what that movie's about. We have a whole phase of
Speaker 1: post traumatic stress, of dealing with the after effects of loss.
Speaker 1: What do we do with this? How do we find
Speaker 1: a way to move on? I was fine with a
Speaker 1: phase like that and hope that five and six would
Speaker 1: have Okay, now we've we're heading on a path that
Speaker 1: that didn't happen.
Speaker 2: And Phase four what I liked is it felt like
Speaker 2: I agree with you with imand three and also echoed
Speaker 2: a little bit of Phase one, where it was like, oh,
Speaker 2: here's just some new stories and eventually these are gonna connect.
Speaker 2: But as we mentioned, with no avengers or crossovers, they
Speaker 2: never connected. So and we we Chris, we talked about
Speaker 2: see when I was still hosting Marble Alliance, we never
Speaker 2: knew who the main characters of the saga was, right,
Speaker 2: We always knew cap Thor and Tony. Those were the
Speaker 2: three that was the training. There's other ones, but like
Speaker 2: those of who those who you could fall, we got
Speaker 2: Captain America the or sorry falconre Soldier and then it
Speaker 2: took how many years? So this shows but again we
Speaker 2: all say this acad two, COVID and strikes happened the
Speaker 2: same time, so it was a whole bunch of issues
Speaker 2: too that like delayed all this stuff. Technically we could
Speaker 2: have had this Avengers maybe two years ago if COVID
Speaker 2: and the strikes dine happened, right, So it's it's not
Speaker 2: all their faults.
Speaker 1: It's just even even look at the trailer four or
Speaker 1: dooms stay at that point? Please tell me if you
Speaker 1: you know, if you think it's not Thor being the
Speaker 1: leader of this team, then I don't know what trailer
Speaker 1: you watched, But yeah, it's Thor leading this group.
Speaker 2: He is the guy right now. It's like gonna bring
Speaker 2: everyone together. So Asma says that's why he got the
Speaker 2: redesign and Doomsday Fans Tour part the original Herbie for
Speaker 2: the fifteen minute delay, and Mike says, uh, Guardians Galaxy
Speaker 2: did a lot of heavy lifting setting up in finnywhere
Speaker 2: absolutely right.
Speaker 1: I mean, they set up the idea for the stones
Speaker 1: and things like that. But I'm just saying, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it brings up the point like the saga itself was
Speaker 1: more put together this one. I think they had one
Speaker 1: idea and I'm not putting all on Oh they set
Speaker 1: it up with johnthan No. They they had a few ideas,
Speaker 1: and I don't think it was just too much. Too
Speaker 1: many you want to call it, Bob chapick with pushing
Speaker 1: out too much content. You want to put out the
Speaker 1: idea of building a streaming pathfron around COVID, this, that
Speaker 1: and the other, like too many cooks back there and
Speaker 1: if it ends up being okay, Phase four, five and
Speaker 1: six wasn't the greatest. We landed the plane. It was great.
Speaker 1: Now we're going to take our lessons learned and fix
Speaker 1: the next couple of phases.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's thing. It's like, because I'm not definitely
Speaker 2: like what you said. I'm not just gonna sit there
Speaker 2: and be like, you know what, figging in the team.
Speaker 2: They did nothing wrong, is the everybody. No, I'm sure
Speaker 2: they made some calls that didn't go down, Like even
Speaker 2: we'd heard stuff about like that final fight and Secret Invasion.
Speaker 2: It had a lot of foggy blueprints over right, So
Speaker 2: it's like, I guarantee you there's things that after endgame,
Speaker 2: they were so high on their own supply, it's like,
Speaker 2: we can do nothing wrong here, and I think they
Speaker 2: did get a little bit, you know, let's.
Speaker 1: Get the green light iron Hard. I'm again I'm glad
Speaker 1: as a fan, I'm glad those characters got a chance,
Speaker 1: absolutely for a moment. However, the way they did it,
Speaker 1: and we talked about this, it's like, well, it looks
Speaker 1: to be all your minority candidates seemed to be dropping
Speaker 1: all at once, and you seem to be looking like
Speaker 1: you're bury. Then like, be proud of it? Now? Were
Speaker 1: those the best ones to get at that point?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 1: It could have been done differently. Yeah, I'm one of
Speaker 1: those people that saying, I'm glad we got Ironheart. I'm
Speaker 1: glad we got Echo. I just wish it was done
Speaker 1: differently in the sense of giving them their flowers and
Speaker 1: do because it just feels like they're gonna be the
Speaker 1: afterthoughts when those characters don't deserve.
Speaker 2: That exactly right, And then it's great that you had
Speaker 2: them because at some point someone's gonna see them and
Speaker 2: end up enjoying those characters. But then it's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: will we ever see them again?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: And that's where sometimes the stink can happen where you
Speaker 2: do the project and then you have to wait a
Speaker 2: long time before we can adapt it again because ah,
Speaker 2: people aren't really into this, right. Like that even happens
Speaker 2: with big characters, like at Batman and Robins. Batman has
Speaker 2: stink for years and they had to wait till that
Speaker 2: those nipples wore off and then gotten hold to come in.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: But like, sometimes that happens so.
Speaker 1: Well, you say, and you're the one who said it too,
Speaker 1: with like and people, I knew what you were getting at,
Speaker 1: but it got proven with Sony's damaging the Marvel brand.
Speaker 2: On you know, you know, and even in general too.
Speaker 2: You look at DC, just the superhero brand. Look at
Speaker 2: those those last movies that Gun had to put out
Speaker 2: with the Blue Beetle Flashazam Awkman. Now none of those
Speaker 2: are like great movies, but a few years ago even
Speaker 2: quality movies like that would be making half a bill
Speaker 2: and then they were flopping. I think it was with
Speaker 2: Sony and in general just combook stuff that I think
Speaker 2: a bunch of studios like those three studios in particularly like, well,
Speaker 2: we could put a lot of this stuff and it's
Speaker 2: gonna be a big hit. Even Sony they put out
Speaker 2: Venom made like eight hundred million, or DC had Aukaman,
Speaker 2: biggest DC movie all time, made a billion. So I
Speaker 2: think all studios were like, let's start making our money now.
Speaker 2: And then it was a lot too much of superhero
Speaker 2: stuff those that one year there was twenty twenty three
Speaker 2: or twenty two where we had like twelve projects, like
Speaker 2: twelve like movies where it was, you know, four from
Speaker 2: the MCU, two from Sony and then three from DC
Speaker 2: it was, and then the TV shows it was it
Speaker 2: was a lot, you know. So so I see Figi
Speaker 2: and Downey's there nothing yet they're.
Speaker 1: They're just sitting on Yeah, perhaps questions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, perhaps their biggest problem post Anger. I'm not giving
Speaker 2: us more Elaine and Kate after Hawke. And obviously you're
Speaker 2: saying that, Jess, I'm not disagreeing with you, but that's
Speaker 2: something another issue that we just talked about with thor
Speaker 2: or stuff with Sam Wilson. You would introduce these characters,
Speaker 2: but then you wouldn't see him again. So if you
Speaker 2: have people like oh, I would want to see more
Speaker 2: of Kate and Elena. We still have it and are
Speaker 2: we going to I don't know where. That was the
Speaker 2: thing of Even in Avengers you got that movie and
Speaker 2: then even though it's low key, in next Door Movie,
Speaker 2: you had Captain America in that movie played by Steve Rodgers. Right.
Speaker 2: It always felt like these characters were kind of or
Speaker 2: like Mark Ruffalo as Iron Man three. Right, he was
Speaker 2: in that Therapist for one little joke scene, but whatever,
Speaker 2: It felt like they were in the same universe. But
Speaker 2: these characters would constantly bump into each other and then
Speaker 2: disappear for two to three years and not see one another. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: so I agree.
Speaker 3: I would have loved it, you know, finally starting.
Speaker 2: It looks like it's starting.
Speaker 1: I'm starting.
Speaker 2: But again, I would have loved I keep pitched us
Speaker 2: with Punisher, get some good fucking action. Directors say hey,
Speaker 2: we want you to make a movie where you layable
Speaker 2: Bo Bovanov and Kate Bishop. Are you say it what
Speaker 2: you know?
Speaker 1: No, No, it's not just gonna add to you blah.
Speaker 1: It's Denzil, Denzil, Denzil.
Speaker 2: It's not Denzel, and it's not Denzel.
Speaker 1: It's just coming because he talked about him on which
Speaker 1: show was I think it was actually Jimmy Kimmel. He
Speaker 1: talked about how his mother gave him his name and
Speaker 1: everything like it's Denzil, Denzil.
Speaker 2: I have been saying it wrong my whole life. Then
Speaker 2: I joked about you like I don't.
Speaker 1: Have This is like how people get John Carlos.
Speaker 2: They said that that was a bit more tricky, though
Speaker 2: I will I'm not gonna lost.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, that's true.
Speaker 3: But on Marvel Alliance, I always defer to Chris and
Speaker 3: let him pronounce it because I'm not going to be
Speaker 3: the one to mess it up.
Speaker 1: And I don't make this up, I said. I I
Speaker 1: hear the interviews and junk I talked about it actually
Speaker 1: on a BTF episode with Mark Marin.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah is that okay? Yeah, there you go. But yeah,
Speaker 2: what I'm saying is I wish they would take more
Speaker 2: risks and say we're gonna make a fort to sixty
Speaker 2: million dollar action movie just those two go, because then
Speaker 2: if it doesn't perform too well, it's okay, a smaller budget.
Speaker 2: I would love them to do that with Frank Castle.
Speaker 2: I love them to take the spirit of that original
Speaker 2: Deadpool movie that was only sixty million, and go, hey,
Speaker 2: that to me is a perfect one where it's like
Speaker 2: the years where you have a big crossover event like this,
Speaker 2: then like early in the year, something small in March February,
Speaker 2: like making a smaller budget. If it's a good enough story,
Speaker 2: people will come out. So uh one who says when
Speaker 2: fanboys kept complaining about the MCU is now the MCU
Speaker 2: and really annoy me. And that's saying it spoke. You
Speaker 2: know what I'd say, well is don't be worried about that.
Speaker 2: Don't be annoyed by that. You know why, because it's
Speaker 2: such a small minority. If anything proved that more than
Speaker 2: anything is the fucking honysty For weeks and months we
Speaker 2: heard about, oh, you can't cast a transactor, you can't
Speaker 2: cast a woman a collar to play Ona Troy. That
Speaker 2: movie is now projected to make a billion dollars and
Speaker 2: Mike spis a couple of weeks ago, and Tras has
Speaker 2: told you and I had the same sentiment where it
Speaker 2: has a small percentage of a few group of people. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna do this. But most of the time,
Speaker 2: movies like Supergirl or The Marvels, when they bomb. It's
Speaker 2: not because there's a bunch of people being like these
Speaker 2: women are up to no good. It's like they just
Speaker 2: don't want to see the movie, or it's not a
Speaker 2: great movie, or for whatever reason they don't have any
Speaker 2: interest in it.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: It has nothing to do with these people that are doing.
Speaker 4: Oh my, you guys, go get your.
Speaker 2: Own masks doom, saying mass two hundred and eighty three
Speaker 2: dollars two hundred eighty dollars.
Speaker 3: And I wondered earlier, like House Alison that was gonna
Speaker 3: get posted now it is.
Speaker 2: But that's why I just say, wamba is those people
Speaker 2: pay no attention to them because they actually make really
Speaker 2: no difference. Just scroll them. They're just looking for something
Speaker 2: to do, you know. So uh, Vince Bort says, I
Speaker 2: hope we get some news on Miss Marvel America as
Speaker 2: Kate and the rest of young heroes. Vinza, that's what
Speaker 2: you're looking for. I don't know if you're getting that today, buddy.
Speaker 2: I wish you the best. The only one i'd see
Speaker 2: is like maybe Kamala, maybe here's something like she's joined Doomsday,
Speaker 2: like maybe Kate, but Chaves, I don't know. They set
Speaker 2: up all those young heroes in phase four and five,
Speaker 2: and I think I think Disney Plus might be their future.
Speaker 3: You know. All right, it looks like the comic Con
Speaker 3: director Eddie Abraham is on stage introducing the Marvel panel.
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, they got a still a real play now too,
Speaker 2: So okay, so we'll see what happens there, cold face,
Speaker 2: stop my little stat viewing for this surprise me. Five. Absolutely,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go watch Vampire. Well you can watch this
Speaker 2: first Vampire. Go watch that. You know, Chris watching it,
Speaker 2: Kyle's watching it. It's good.
Speaker 1: Season four ten more minutes an episode in a season
Speaker 1: finale of one.
Speaker 2: So yeah, keep telling me he's gonna watch it, hasn't
Speaker 2: watched it.
Speaker 3: Uh, all right, what's five? Dy's on stage? What's the hat? Oh? Yes,
Speaker 3: it looks like doctor.
Speaker 1: Doone miss Marvel Season two? Interesting?
Speaker 2: Scared and not scared me, but I was surprised. I
Speaker 2: was like, really, well, they did take a risk with Daredevil,
Speaker 2: bring in season two and punish one. Let's along the
Speaker 2: Deadpool and Wolverine. I can't say dead Pool Woverine was
Speaker 2: a risk just because Deadpool was a proven property. They
Speaker 2: didn't take that risk. Fox did, right, If anything like
Speaker 2: they let Fox take the risk like, oh we can
Speaker 2: do that. Oh yeah, that's that. I agree with you.
Speaker 2: Dead pull and punish. Sure, they they they definitely got
Speaker 2: more mature. I think boring in season one was more,
Speaker 2: way more risky with the cop storyline, cause I think
Speaker 2: they're way more into that. I think they kind of
Speaker 2: went back on. But yeah, they definitely have taken some risks.
Speaker 2: Don't get like, it's not that they're not playing it
Speaker 2: completely safe. That's what gives me hope for the MCU
Speaker 2: because the MU, I really or sorry, the X Men,
Speaker 2: I really need them not to play that safe when
Speaker 2: we get there. You know.
Speaker 1: But the thing is in this it was never gonna
Speaker 1: be the Netflix show. Never never was the intent never
Speaker 1: was going to try to be. They were going to
Speaker 1: capture what people enjoyed about it, but it's never going
Speaker 1: to measure up that was. If they ever tried to
Speaker 1: do that, that was going to be a losing battle.
Speaker 1: It was never gonna happen this trying to capture what
Speaker 1: And that's why they brought the characters back. They they heard,
Speaker 1: they heard the issues and they bring them back. And
Speaker 1: you know, I definitely think season two is a big
Speaker 1: step uve over season one, and I'm I'm so excited
Speaker 1: to see Devil and cell Block d in live action,
Speaker 1: especially with if that the pen that we saw, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, that's hey, David, someone's gonna be throwing some
Speaker 1: hands