Speaker 1: We're doing mind putting that death stick out.
Speaker 2: But this is a bar.
Speaker 1: Isn't smoking illegal in bars here?
Speaker 2: Not in Colorado? Oh my god?
Speaker 1: What kind of backward hickstate is this?
Speaker 2: Look? Man, I worked fourteen hours a day at the sawmill.
Speaker 2: I just got off work and I need to relax.
Speaker 1: Well, when I relax, I just go to my vacation
Speaker 1: house in Hawaii. I ain't got a vacation house in Hawaii.
Speaker 1: Your vacation house in Mexico's in whatever it is. Look,
Speaker 1: you are putting my life and these voice life in
Speaker 1: change of by smoking that in here. And I'm not
Speaker 1: good Colerado. I will in smoking in bars in Colorado?
Speaker 1: They were being a more smoking. Isn't he ayesing you? Guys?
Speaker 2: What dude?
Speaker 3: He just goes around imposing his will on people. He's
Speaker 3: my ida kick ass.
Speaker 2: Welcome to Going Down to Sounds, part the podcast where
Speaker 2: we always have oursells the time, and here today we
Speaker 2: are going to be reviewing an episode in what I
Speaker 2: refer to as the Smoke Free Studio. So I'm dann
Speaker 2: to mister guard Davis, please put it that Siegert. I
Speaker 2: think Tom you butt out better butt out. I'm guy
Speaker 2: yes indeed, and he's Dan.
Speaker 4: Oh yes, and we are indeed going down to South
Speaker 4: Park for the episode but out episode thirteen.
Speaker 2: Of season seven. You want to take a vacation, that's
Speaker 2: a cigaretteses like your vacation.
Speaker 4: That would mean that I still smoke, which I do
Speaker 4: very very very very very very very infrequently, and when
Speaker 4: I do these days, it's like, oh, yeah, there's a
Speaker 4: reason I quit. Look, I can't say in good conscience
Speaker 4: that if I could go back in time to say,
Speaker 4: I think it was about nineteen eighty nine that I
Speaker 4: smoked my first cigarette. Earnest, I would not necessarily say
Speaker 4: to that young man, hey, don't you do that. I mean,
Speaker 4: here's here's the dirty little secret.
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed smoking.
Speaker 4: It was great. It made me look super cool. You
Speaker 4: started a lot of interesting conversation with a lot of
Speaker 4: interesting people out in the smoking area, or just even
Speaker 4: as eye because back in the day when I was smoking,
Speaker 4: you smoked in nightclubs, you smoked in bars, you smoked indoors.
Speaker 2: Well, it was just the was people smoked. It was yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, you started a conversation with a girl or
Speaker 4: whoever you were interested in by bring a cigarette or
Speaker 4: asking for a light. That's how I started at least
Speaker 4: one relationship asking someone for a light.
Speaker 2: So I grew up with parents who both didn't smoke. Right.
Speaker 2: But then we go through old photo albums and I
Speaker 2: see photos of my mum sitting there with a cigarette
Speaker 2: in their mouth at the bar table where we're having drinks. Ok, Mom,
Speaker 2: you smoked. She goes, yeah, everyone smoked. But once I
Speaker 2: got pregnant with you had to stop. And I went,
Speaker 2: you never wanted to smoke again. She goes, no, you
Speaker 2: had to stop. I went, some people just have that
Speaker 2: willpower to be able to stop. But it's weird for
Speaker 2: me to go back raising a household where smoking was
Speaker 2: not seen as evil of the enemy, but it was
Speaker 2: just no, we don't smoke, and my mom would very
Speaker 2: much be really annoyed if we smoked. But seeing photos
Speaker 2: of them smoking when they were young, and she goes, yeah, look,
Speaker 2: I learned that smoking is bad for you, so I
Speaker 2: didn't want you to do it.
Speaker 4: Sure you know I understand completely. I mean I was
Speaker 4: speaking about this with the Lovely Lois's mother on the
Speaker 4: weekend when she was over and watching the footy with us,
Speaker 4: and I don't know how the topic of smoking came up.
Speaker 4: But that's what I think she was asking about.
Speaker 2: Just for a lot she did.
Speaker 4: It's like see Louise.
Speaker 2: A upgrade.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, I think she was asking Yeah,
Speaker 4: she was asking about my mum because my mother, Margaret
Speaker 4: Mary God bless her little struggle with her health at
Speaker 4: the moment.
Speaker 2: She's start smoking.
Speaker 4: Well, she's wrestled them for seem for a little while now,
Speaker 4: and being the vintage that she is, I mean she
Speaker 4: probably had a few cigarettes back in the day, but
Speaker 4: she never really smoked all that much.
Speaker 2: My dad never did. No one well, he was a
Speaker 2: football he was. He was a sportsman. Yeah, although you
Speaker 2: do see a lot of photos of a footballs and
Speaker 2: a half. So I'm having a meat pine a cigarette
Speaker 2: having having a dart on the on the we used
Speaker 2: to build things in this country. But all my sisters
Speaker 2: and I were were smokers. Yeah, and just I.
Speaker 4: Grew up in a house where you know, there were
Speaker 4: ashtrays around all the time and they usually had a
Speaker 4: few butts in them. And you know, one of my
Speaker 4: sisters still does not chain smokes, but you know, has
Speaker 4: like one or two at the end of the day.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Look, it's it's it's a terrible habit. It's not good
Speaker 4: for your health, it's it's certainly not good for your wallet.
Speaker 4: And these in these particularly in Australia. I mean, I
Speaker 4: was stunned. I went to America, oh, probably about ten
Speaker 4: years ago now, but even then, in Australia, smokes were like,
Speaker 4: holy shit, there's much of a pack you get over there,
Speaker 4: and it was like maybe a quarter. It's like, holy moly,
Speaker 4: I'm back on the darts. But yeah, it's a terrible abbit.
Speaker 4: But at the same time, I had a lot of
Speaker 4: fun doing it.
Speaker 2: But there's a lot of delve into that topic with
Speaker 2: this episode because it's one of those topics where I
Speaker 2: feel like you can argue it really well from both sides.
Speaker 2: Were a lot of valid points pro and against cigarette smokes.
Speaker 2: But there's people I can understand a someone who's never smoked, Right,
Speaker 2: I don't like smoking. I don't smell of smoke. Really,
Speaker 2: I have nothing against you people who decide to smoke,
Speaker 2: and that's the right mentality. Don't begrudge people who want
Speaker 2: to smoke. They want to smoke, that's their choice, right,
Speaker 2: I personally don't like smoking. I have argent says, and
Speaker 2: why I don't like smoking. But there are people, as
Speaker 2: they mentioned in this episode Tray and Matt the worker
Speaker 2: for example at the bar who says, I've just worked
Speaker 2: a forty hour shift at the mill. I need an escape.
Speaker 2: And in the commentary, Tray and Matt was saying on
Speaker 2: the lines of they wish that people had the choice.
Speaker 2: Still right, they're very much. They say that this episode
Speaker 2: is what many reporters refer to when they say that
Speaker 2: are conservative. They say, you know they which if you
Speaker 2: watch South Park in this entirely, they are not.
Speaker 4: Conservat Yeah, there's something I want to talk about, but
Speaker 4: please go on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think it's this episode, if anything, is
Speaker 2: against being conservative, because with their idea of this episode,
Speaker 2: their point is it should be pro choice. If you're
Speaker 2: pro choice, they usually means you're not conservative.
Speaker 4: What Tray and Matter often and what South Park is
Speaker 4: often referred to as. Look, I may be misrepresentatives, but
Speaker 4: I think it's generally called libertarian, which is kind of
Speaker 4: like everyone should have the opportunity and the right to
Speaker 4: make their own decisions. They shouldn't have rules imposed on
Speaker 4: them by government or whatever. I mean, we're not talking
Speaker 4: about anarchy here, but we're talking about allow people the
Speaker 4: right to make their own decisions and make their own
Speaker 4: mistakes in that regard, And for me, this is probably
Speaker 4: maybe the first episode of South Park where that really
Speaker 4: comes through loud and clear, where the message here is
Speaker 4: kind of like, stop imposing your will.
Speaker 2: Honest.
Speaker 4: I know you're I know you've got the best intentions here,
Speaker 4: but you're really coming across as kind of a bully.
Speaker 4: And I think they even't referred to Rob Bryner, who
Speaker 4: is caricatured in this episode as kind of a fascist.
Speaker 4: Mister oos, mister, poor old Rob Braner.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about him as well. Yeah, they point out
Speaker 2: in the commentary they love his movies. They think he's great,
Speaker 2: and they in particular Spinal Tap is one of the
Speaker 2: films that made Trey want to turn music into comedy.
Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, yeah, yeah, but yeah, the thing about Rob
Speaker 4: Brianer is he yet you had a really sort of
Speaker 4: unimpeachable run from say as a director, from say the
Speaker 4: mid eightiest five ish, Yeah, around yeah, early nineties or so,
Speaker 4: and then.
Speaker 2: He didn't he did Harry Matt Salius, Well he did.
Speaker 2: He knows that ninety five, wasn't it.
Speaker 4: That's around eighty nine. What's that not, so he's got
Speaker 4: ninety five everything.
Speaker 2: You've got male yeah, which is not him, which is
Speaker 2: not him. But all these films like you've got male
Speaker 2: Slips in Seattle and both Tom Hanks and you've got
Speaker 2: When Harry at Sally, I just feel like all these
Speaker 2: films feel similar to me.
Speaker 4: When Hary Mitsali's written by a woman named Nora Efron
Speaker 4: who then went on to write and directs Liberson's Out and.
Speaker 2: You've got Mail.
Speaker 4: Absolute boss queen. She's fantastic. But yeah, he's standing is
Speaker 4: like a social activist. Well if there's a huge session
Speaker 4: in Wikipedia about it. But yeah, he had a really
Speaker 4: good run as a director as well. So yeah, that's
Speaker 4: wholly understandable why they would do that. What I was
Speaker 4: thinking about what Tray and Matter saying through Stanle and Kyle,
Speaker 4: and I guess their characters as well. There are all
Speaker 4: four personal responsibilities like, yeah, if you want to smoke, smoke,
Speaker 4: be aware of the risk. And but you know, if
Speaker 4: people want to do that, let them do it. That's
Speaker 4: all well and good, but you down have a little
Speaker 4: bit into the big tobacco and it's kind of like, yeah,
Speaker 4: but they're kind of using shady underhanded tactics to get
Speaker 4: people hooked.
Speaker 2: Everyone's got an element of evil to them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well that in this episode. I mean when they
Speaker 4: go to visit I think that place is actually called
Speaker 4: Big Tobacco, or they'd go to visit the cigarette factory.
Speaker 2: Out of it.
Speaker 4: It seems to me like they are slightly stacking the
Speaker 4: deck or rigging the game in favor of Big Tobacco
Speaker 4: to make their argument. And honestly, if I was young
Speaker 4: and impressionable and I was watching this, i'd kind of
Speaker 4: get sucked and it's like, yeah, man, it's my choice.
Speaker 4: It's like, well, yeah, it is your choice to some degree,
Speaker 4: but you're not being one hundred percent informed. You're getting
Speaker 4: maybe seventy five percent of the facts at best. You
Speaker 4: are being sold something that is first of all, it's
Speaker 4: not good for it, and they making it even worse
Speaker 4: for it, and they're making it really hard to get
Speaker 4: a quit.
Speaker 2: What they're telling you isn't necessarily a lie, but they're
Speaker 2: leaving things out that's true, And I think Tramer, actually
Speaker 2: I know exactly what you're saying. I completely agree. They
Speaker 2: also do a good job though, of making Big Tobacco
Speaker 2: look bad, particularly in the scene of the tour, right,
Speaker 2: and they just gloss over the slave industry like it's
Speaker 2: no beat deal. You have cartman say, oh, because of tobacco,
Speaker 2: all of our black friends are here. Yeah, that's right,
Speaker 2: they're slaves. But the slaves it was just you know,
Speaker 2: they were brought here to help with the work. And
Speaker 2: it's like that's the that's the perfect example. Help do
Speaker 2: the work. Do the work, that's the thing. Yeah. So
Speaker 2: that's the example of big Tobacco going yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: let's gloss over the bad stuff. So that's exactly what
Speaker 2: you're saying.
Speaker 4: Yeahah, I mean big Tobacco was gonna say, oh yeah,
Speaker 4: the tobacco cash crop is something that really helped America thriw. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but it's also built on a foundation of shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: By the way, that bit that you mentioned with car
Speaker 4: talking about if it wasn't tobaca, we wouldn't have any
Speaker 4: of our black friends. I love that he always takes
Speaker 4: the wrong lesson.
Speaker 2: Oh I never thought so. Yeah, I thought that was
Speaker 2: really hilarious.
Speaker 4: But yeah, this strikes me as it may not be
Speaker 4: the first example of Trey and Matt's sort of world
Speaker 4: view in that regard when it comes to that sort
Speaker 4: of libertarian world view.
Speaker 2: Definitely not the first time, but this felt very much
Speaker 2: for the first time. They were focused on making their
Speaker 2: agenda pretty clear. Yeah, and making you sort of I
Speaker 2: feel like you can watch South Park and not really
Speaker 2: get swayed for the most part. Sometimes yes, but for
Speaker 2: the most part gets swayed one way or the other.
Speaker 2: They always point out pro choice. Here's the facts, both
Speaker 2: are evil, both have positives. You make your choice. This
Speaker 2: one's here, And he said the balance is tilted more
Speaker 2: towards Big Tobacco being the good guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, not even making Big Tobacco the goodbye, but making yeah,
Speaker 4: just pushing the mess, the message of personal responsibility and all. Yeah,
Speaker 4: take responsibility for your own choices. I do, which is
Speaker 4: a message that.
Speaker 2: I actually pretty much agree with.
Speaker 4: But at the same time recognize that sometimes you're making
Speaker 4: your own choices, but the information that you're working with
Speaker 4: may not be the complete story.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I do think you could argue though, that they
Speaker 2: are making Big Tobacco the good guy, because throughout the episode,
Speaker 2: if you're a KIP watching this, you shouldn't be a
Speaker 2: YI watching this. First of all South Park, right, if
Speaker 2: you're a young person watching this, but uh, you know,
Speaker 2: a teenager, the ones who are making decision to start smoking. Right. See,
Speaker 2: you're thirteen to fourteen years old watching this. You're watching
Speaker 2: this through the eyes of the kids. And throughout the
Speaker 2: entire episode, the kids never really see Big Tobacco as
Speaker 2: the bad guy. They are constantly questioning Rob Reiner and
Speaker 2: the smoke stoppers whatever they call, saying, yeah, but that's lying. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but that's bad. Your tactics are bad. Acknowledging that Big
Speaker 2: Tobaco does lie, but they're still positioning Rob run as
Speaker 2: a bag for lying in return lying as well. They
Speaker 2: never have the kids go, hey, you know what Big
Speaker 2: Tobacco Isn't that they're lying as well and seeing that
Speaker 2: as a negative.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I don't want to speak for Trey
Speaker 4: and Mattie. They probably say or they'd say shut up, dude,
Speaker 4: and then put hey, I filter over that to make
Speaker 4: them matter. We'll talk about that another time.
Speaker 2: I'm always telling about talk about here. I watched the
Speaker 2: documentary for the first time Casaberita is Me and More
Speaker 2: Cask a different house altogether. Yeah, And they showed in
Speaker 2: studio footage of them doing the dick Enboughse episode, and
Speaker 2: I didn't realize that Trey and Matt when they do
Speaker 2: the voices of it was Cartman and Butters. They're essentially
Speaker 2: just speaking into the microphone, and they obviously digitally alter
Speaker 2: it to make the voice sound like the character. And
Speaker 2: I went, ah, it's kind of shattered the illusion little
Speaker 2: bits like I did see a great meme. It's a
Speaker 2: similar thing where you find out that Pedro is not
Speaker 2: in the Mandalorian costume. He's just voicing it. And it's
Speaker 2: like there's a photo of Pedro on set of the
Speaker 2: New Mando movie whatever, and it's like Pedro's one day
Speaker 2: on set. Well, he's a busy guy.
Speaker 4: He's mister Fantastic in the New Fantastic movie. He wasn't
Speaker 4: the Last of Us spoiler, and yeah, he's Mando and
Speaker 4: he's got a bunch of other stuff going on.
Speaker 2: He's I feel like you just spoiled I was just
Speaker 2: about to watch Last of Us. I can't believe you
Speaker 2: just said that. I can't believe you just said that
Speaker 2: watched it. Sorry, fuh that the episode's banned up. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I thought everyone knew this. I've seen it. Those a
Speaker 2: big things, and I was like been avoiding all last
Speaker 2: of my stuff. Oh well the ship, that's a big one.
Speaker 2: The camera's on. Yeah, the danising really red right now,
Speaker 2: that's about to choke me. I was just like, that's like,
Speaker 2: I just have my double door moment. Double do it? Anyway,
Speaker 2: moving along that matter, I usually do feel bad about it,
Speaker 2: my mistake of bringing up bedroll. But yeah, so you're
Speaker 2: about to say, yeah, so I always how do we
Speaker 2: get to that? So it's on set? Oh said that digitally?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: No, what was it? Oh you shouted the illusion? Yeah,
Speaker 2: so just shuttered the illusion. I'll watch the documentary. Missus
Speaker 2: you and I said, did you know this? And you
Speaker 2: didn't write back? That's right, because as that was to you,
Speaker 2: that was to me. Yeah. Yeah, I was just I
Speaker 2: couldn't believe it. I was like, I have to tell somebody,
Speaker 2: so God tears in his eyes.
Speaker 4: I'm really sorry, but I feel I feel really bad
Speaker 4: about that. It's okay, but yeah, rewinding just a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 4: because when we were talking about their voices, I didn't
Speaker 4: want to speak for speak.
Speaker 2: For Trey and Matt.
Speaker 4: What I think they have real issue with, or something
Speaker 4: that I think is a real kind of sticking point
Speaker 4: for them is people who get self righteous. And we've
Speaker 4: talked about this, I'm sure many times are on going
Speaker 4: down to sound Buck anytime someone sort of is like
Speaker 4: whether they know a bit better about more about this
Speaker 4: than you do, or no, you're doing the wrong thing
Speaker 4: and here's why.
Speaker 2: They hate that. Yeah, they don't like it, and they
Speaker 2: will push back again challenge. Yeah. Yeah absolutely. Now would
Speaker 2: you say they that's a sign of I'm not quantum immature,
Speaker 2: but it is a sign of immaturity where they don't
Speaker 2: like pushback. It's we are right and what we're doing
Speaker 2: is the best and necessarily the best, but they don't
Speaker 2: like being challenged and having people say yeah, but why Yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's they don't like pushback.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think it's like, if you're going to tell me
Speaker 4: how to live my life, you better have a really
Speaker 4: good reason for doing so. You better have you better
Speaker 4: be able to provide me with a good roadmap to
Speaker 4: how to live. Because if if you're just going to stand,
Speaker 4: if you're just gonna get on your high house and
Speaker 4: say don't do that, it's like, if you can tell
Speaker 4: me why not, I'll go along with you. And the
Speaker 4: way Rob Rhiner and the anti smoking contingent is presented
Speaker 4: in this is kind of it's bad, but also not
Speaker 4: even treating it as like a HEALTHI ish, but more
Speaker 4: like a moral failing, kind of like smoking secon You're
Speaker 4: terrible for doing it, you're a weak person doing it,
Speaker 4: or something like that. I might be mis misremember misrepresenting.
Speaker 4: I might be misremembering and misrepresenting the episode when I
Speaker 4: say that Rhino was definitely an anti is definitely an
Speaker 4: anti smoker, anti smoke activist.
Speaker 2: But this is the thing. I listened to the commentary,
Speaker 2: the five minutes of it, whatever it was, and now
Speaker 2: very much anti Rob Rhiner. You're taking cigarettes out of bars,
Speaker 2: You're ruining people's lives, basically the same. We like your movies,
Speaker 2: but why are you using all your energy to ruin
Speaker 2: people's day by saying they can't smoke. The argument to
Speaker 2: that is that I would say Rob Riner wasn't necessarily
Speaker 2: focused on whether people could smoke. He didn't care that
Speaker 2: the adults couldn't smoke anymore. He's more focused on ensuring
Speaker 2: that the kids weren't going to begin smoking. So once
Speaker 2: you'd already begun smoking, it's hard to quit, right. I
Speaker 2: think his agenda was let's make sure kids don't start,
Speaker 2: and the only way to do so is by having
Speaker 2: collateral damage. I either the people who are already smoking
Speaker 2: taking them out of the bars, so then kids aren't
Speaker 2: just introduced to it like it's the norm. Because when
Speaker 2: you were growing up, whatever, it was just people smoke.
Speaker 2: From when I worked Afford, there's all these photos on
Speaker 2: the wall of guys on the production line with a
Speaker 2: smoke in their hand, right, it was just it was
Speaker 2: the norm. I feel like maybe in the nineties, like
Speaker 2: when Rhiner and whatnot would say no, that you understand
Speaker 2: it's not a good thing to smoke. I think now
Speaker 2: by twenty twenty five you can almost argue that most
Speaker 2: kids don't really smoke. I feel like smoking is a
Speaker 2: real small section of the community now very much. So. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean they've moved to vaping obviously, but yeah, there's
Speaker 2: still alternatives. People are always going to have bad But
Speaker 2: I don't think Rhina was out to ruin the day
Speaker 2: just for the sake of ruining people's day. I think
Speaker 2: he was going there is going to be collateral damage
Speaker 2: being the people who are the adult who are already smoking,
Speaker 2: but it's for the long term it's to ensure that
Speaker 2: future generations like kids grow up going maybe smoking's not
Speaker 2: a good idea, and in turn they will have that
Speaker 2: mentality and go, I mean, look, smoke if you want
Speaker 2: to smoke, but you probably shouldn't. Yeah, it's not good
Speaker 2: like that. It's not good for it. It's not good
Speaker 2: for you.
Speaker 4: And even back in the day when you know, when
Speaker 4: I would smoke, like a pack of day or whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 4: admittedly we didn't have what they have on the packs now,
Speaker 4: which are you know, like the mouthful of rotted teeth
Speaker 4: or the either needs operating on or whatever. Even back
Speaker 4: then they would have on them smoking as a health
Speaker 4: I would say on the TV, it's smoking as a
Speaker 4: health has it.
Speaker 2: Was like a challenge, Oh is it not in my case?
Speaker 2: But dead yet?
Speaker 4: Well we'd laugh, you know, you'd get the one where
Speaker 4: it's like, oh it was the really low level kind
Speaker 4: of health has it? Yeah, because they'd say, oh, he'll
Speaker 4: give you lung cancer or it'll do this, I'll do that.
Speaker 4: It's like, oh, it might make you imputent. One time
Speaker 4: out of five was I like those odds.
Speaker 2: But the thing about this episode too is another alment
Speaker 2: is the hipocrisy that comes with it. So that was
Speaker 2: sort of pushing, I feel without really saying the words
Speaker 2: that Ryana is so focused on cutting out smoking right
Speaker 2: because of the health, but he's feeling his face full
Speaker 2: of hamburgers, and he's overweight, and he's previously sweating in
Speaker 2: his his buttert again out of his limo and whatnot.
Speaker 2: So it's the hypocrisy that comes with us. So you
Speaker 2: focus on smoking, what about everything else? We're okay with
Speaker 2: alcohol or okay with fast food. You can even say now,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm a true believer in this. I think the
Speaker 2: gaming industry is one of the biggest dangers of today's society.
Speaker 2: It is so afl football. The gambling side of things
Speaker 2: is so casual now, and that is throwing the casual
Speaker 2: gamble responsibly. Yeah. Look, there are some people who can't,
Speaker 2: but you just make it so accessible and so obvious
Speaker 2: and so cool to go, Well, here's today's sports bets,
Speaker 2: here's her multi's, and he's let's do it gamb responsibly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and making it like a social experience as well,
Speaker 4: like that, as opposed to just going down to the
Speaker 4: Ta b like we used to and putting, however on
Speaker 4: whatever horse. Yeah, get together with your mates and yeah,
Speaker 4: compare your tips and all that kind of I don't
Speaker 4: like it.
Speaker 2: I've never been much of a gambler. My old man
Speaker 2: liked to gamble and the horses yet yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I won't say in a destructive way or anything
Speaker 4: like that, but it was something that he enjoyed.
Speaker 2: But he had a bit of money, Bobby, Not no,
Speaker 2: you're rich, but you know, he had some money to game.
Speaker 2: He wasn't betting the house, no, but some people have
Speaker 2: nothing and bet all. But the other thing is, I mean,
Speaker 2: gambling has became well, it's also referred to as gaming
Speaker 2: in ways, and it's become so gamified and so easy
Speaker 2: to do it, particularly with holds up his mobile phone.
Speaker 4: It's so easy kids can do it, and kids are
Speaker 4: doing it, yeah, which kind of sad.
Speaker 2: What I've noticed is that more and more of my
Speaker 2: friends are putting on social media before the game starts.
Speaker 2: Here's my multi Let's see if I can get it.
Speaker 2: Like it's a challenge, and I'm going, oh, gamble has
Speaker 2: become a game. Yeah, it's become like a social he said,
Speaker 2: a social thing where it's fun. Let's see if I
Speaker 2: can get this, And everyone's like rooten from me. Oh
Speaker 2: you got what you nearly got it, mate, And I'm thinking, wow,
Speaker 2: there's there is a sohole whole section of community out
Speaker 2: there that who are going to be so fucked over
Speaker 2: because of this. Oh yeah they what's smoking. It was
Speaker 2: in the seventies, but so casual. That's what gamble's going
Speaker 2: to be. In twenty thirty year, they're gonna say, don't gamble, guys.
Speaker 2: It's terrible. But right now it's it's fun. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: and very very lucrative from a lot of people. Because
Speaker 2: you look at the pokey's right, and you look at
Speaker 2: the poky and from the outside, I never really gambled
Speaker 2: that kind of thing. You look at pokeys and you're
Speaker 2: looking to go. It looks it's always sad, you know.
Speaker 2: You look at people, Oh these guys, it's eight thirty
Speaker 2: at night. You could be at home with your families.
Speaker 2: But you hear pushing buttons looking at a screen. Right.
Speaker 2: But they've made they've taken people away from that and
Speaker 2: going gamble on sports mak and they get all the
Speaker 2: big name faces promoting it, going, hey, you we're talking
Speaker 2: to Joel Salard about sports bet. It's it's scary, man,
Speaker 2: it's it's a bit depressing. Yeah, but you know, don't smoke.
Speaker 2: Smoking's terrible, gambling's fine, Oh yeah, yeah, and I think.
Speaker 4: That's a drinking still drinking as well to some degree.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think just with this episode, that's what
Speaker 2: they're trying to say, is you hate smoking, but there's
Speaker 2: all these other evils out there that you're fine with
Speaker 2: alcohols and other big one as you said, Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: we're fine with alcohol, but smoking marijuana. No, no, no, no,
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Speaker 2: Discam There was also the element of this episode where
Speaker 2: I want to know your thoughts. Do you think that
Speaker 2: this episode here was trying to it's almost being self
Speaker 2: critical of their structure episode structure where throughout the episode
Speaker 2: you have Kyle saying, Oh, if we keep going, this
Speaker 2: is what's going to happen. This is what's going to happen.
Speaker 2: Is Trade trying to say we're going to change the
Speaker 2: template up a bit, or we also realize that we
Speaker 2: are following the same template all the time. We're in
Speaker 2: on the joke as well.
Speaker 4: Is that that I don't know if it's them being
Speaker 4: in on the joke as so much them trying to
Speaker 4: just get ahead of a bit of criticism. I mean,
Speaker 4: what people who are self deprecating are like, well, I'm
Speaker 4: going to insult myself before you can.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And I don't think they're insulting themselves here. I think
Speaker 4: they're just acknowledging that this is what people like we
Speaker 4: are maybe going to sort of try it the same
Speaker 4: old cliches and same old templates every time. I mean,
Speaker 4: I think they actually say it's another one of those
Speaker 4: times when things get out of hand.
Speaker 2: Where Kyle Liven calls the shot he goes, this is
Speaker 2: exactly what's going to happen, and then that's what happens.
Speaker 2: That's probably the template that just mat any TV is.
Speaker 2: It better to acknowledge it before anyone else does and
Speaker 2: get critical because as a viewer, if you enjoy it,
Speaker 2: who gives a fuck when anyone else thinks? Right, But
Speaker 2: then when they've never to pointed it out, I'm just
Speaker 2: kind of going, oh, yeah, you're right. It is just
Speaker 2: sort of the same thing over and over again. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: And I didn't really realize until you pointed it out.
Speaker 2: It's interesting.
Speaker 4: I mean, of course this came out in I guess three, yeah,
Speaker 4: a pre binging era, although.
Speaker 2: We're gett DVD box sets at that point in time.
Speaker 2: Getty miss this place and watch all Sea Buffy season three.
Speaker 2: That may well be the thing.
Speaker 4: I mean, I remember sometime in the either late nineties
Speaker 4: rearly two thousands getting all of like.
Speaker 2: Twin Peaks and watching all of it. How cool was it?
Speaker 2: That was great getting I'm gonna watch every episode.
Speaker 4: But the other thing is you throw that shit down
Speaker 4: flipp and reverse it. Because I was really into gilmong
Speaker 4: A that around.
Speaker 2: This watched it, but it's huge wasn't there. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: and really enjoyed watching it. You know, every week we
Speaker 2: discussed this with when I talked about House, remember m
Speaker 2: M yeah, and.
Speaker 4: Then yeah then you and I was like, when I
Speaker 4: catching up with this and watch a lot of episodes
Speaker 4: back to back and it's like, oh, these are all
Speaker 4: the same.
Speaker 2: All the same, if not all the same then sort
Speaker 2: of closing up.
Speaker 4: But the tone was very much the same as well
Speaker 4: as like rattat in terms of its dialogue, is that
Speaker 4: like I think I think I'm overdosing. Yeah, yeah, I'm
Speaker 4: not sure I'm enjoying this as much because I'm getting
Speaker 4: it all at once.
Speaker 2: Shows, maybe before the binge era, aren't made to be binged.
Speaker 4: And honestly, the same could be said for movies because
Speaker 4: you know, you get a lot of movies that either
Speaker 4: become franchised or whatever.
Speaker 2: Star Wars for example.
Speaker 4: So the one I'm thinking I was born because I
Speaker 4: really love the Jason Bourne movie. Certainly the first three. Yeah,
Speaker 4: the first trilogy. Was it ultimatum? There's identity, ultimatum and
Speaker 4: supremacy no sorryremacy, Yeah, ultimatum. I thought I thought one
Speaker 4: weekend I was like, yeah, I think I'm just gonna
Speaker 4: kick back when my buddy Jason Bourne and I still
Speaker 4: three back to back, is like, oh, these are all
Speaker 4: the same movie. They're not all the same movie, but
Speaker 4: they're following a lot of the same beads, the stylistically,
Speaker 4: the very the same. And I haven't not that I
Speaker 4: haven't gone back, but it's like, I think it's going
Speaker 4: to be a while before I watched the.
Speaker 2: Bourne movies again or one together. Anyway.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and nowise they say the Mission Impossible movies, Yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 4: but they're all not Bournes.
Speaker 2: Based on a TV series.
Speaker 4: It is based on a series of books, but Mission
Speaker 4: Impossible is based on a TV show. The movie each
Speaker 4: episode is going to be like a TV episode in
Speaker 4: a lot of ways.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, and I think that's what they're acknowledging here. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: because my thought was they're going to switch the show up.
Speaker 2: But no, I think you're right. I think they're saying,
Speaker 2: we know it's a formula, but you enjoy the formula. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so we're going to stick with it because this is
Speaker 2: what makes the show fun, is what makes the show great,
Speaker 2: And we'll.
Speaker 4: Throw in some swerves and you know, not every episode
Speaker 4: is going to be the same. But you should know that,
Speaker 4: you know, Yeah, it's our foundation is a plot B,
Speaker 4: plot three out structure, all that kind of business or
Speaker 4: something happens in South Bay. Oh wow, here we go again.
Speaker 4: But that's what yeah, as you said, that's what you
Speaker 4: tuned in for.
Speaker 2: That's what you like. And I know these childish films, right,
Speaker 2: the kids is to start watching like Beethoven and air Bud,
Speaker 2: not the Airbud movies. Terrible, great fucking franchise. The ship
Speaker 2: out of air Bud. Mate, it's a ship ton of
Speaker 2: air Bud. Yeah, it's good for them right now. And
Speaker 2: whoever the guy was that played Josh and those movies
Speaker 2: onto a winner, right, good for him anyway. Elliot's yeah,
Speaker 2: he's in the first four air Bud movies. It's the
Speaker 2: same owner of the dog. His name is, the character's
Speaker 2: name is Josh. And the kids love that. They love
Speaker 2: it when part two has the same cast in it,
Speaker 2: because like the Sandlot for example, has different casts and
Speaker 2: number two different cast number three, and they're like, I
Speaker 2: doesn't quite feel the same, but like the air Bud,
Speaker 2: the next one's like he plays football, the next one
Speaker 2: he plays soccer. The next thing it's air cup or something,
Speaker 2: and then the fourth one, I think he plays baseball. God,
Speaker 2: he's a five tool player. Of dog actually plays basketball
Speaker 2: in air. But have you seen it? I was like,
Speaker 2: wait a minute, I thought this was gonna be like
Speaker 2: some pauly seed. I think, No, they throw the ball,
Speaker 2: this dog launches it into the hole. The dog dribbles
Speaker 2: the ball, Okay, whatever, but they're watching it right, and
Speaker 2: the dog gets something bad happens, and Alliott is only
Speaker 2: six and he's starting to realize his formula to these films.
Speaker 2: He goes, something bad always happens, but it always comes
Speaker 2: back at the end. I'm like, he's woke this shit
Speaker 2: out already.
Speaker 4: He's cractic, he's decoded the matrix.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: By the way, Josh fram in the air Bud film
Speaker 4: series is played by Kevin I'm gonna mispronounce it Ziegasgas
Speaker 4: Canadian actor. Yeah, the air but franchise is the top
Speaker 4: thing in his Wikipedia. He was also in that Door
Speaker 4: of the Dead remake, which I really like. That was
Speaker 4: a great remake Dawn of the Dead.
Speaker 2: Fantastic. Fuck that was good and no one talks about
Speaker 2: it anymore. We really should. Yeah, exactly, let's make Lender
Speaker 2: watch it. That's a good idea. P Halloween.
Speaker 4: Oh good idea already made him much on top time
Speaker 4: machine for our next episode.
Speaker 2: And Malton, what's how funny is we do this South
Speaker 2: that podcast? We're now doing it with Leonard maltmen doing
Speaker 2: a movie podcast. But it's the final thing w'e to
Speaker 2: talk about before we go to our our favorite moments
Speaker 2: and whatnot? Was the butt out aspect right that the team,
Speaker 2: the butty Out Team, Oh my god, getting back to
Speaker 2: anti smoking and just positive, healthy messages in schools. They
Speaker 2: I'm watching this right and I appreciated all of their jokes,
Speaker 2: which is just further proof that that kind of humor
Speaker 2: is targeting the wrong audience. They're targeting the parents, kids
Speaker 2: that want to hear dad jokes, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: What it was like, are you blowing smoke? And they're
Speaker 2: always so positive and happy to be there, And it's
Speaker 2: just we all have that memory at least once of that,
Speaker 2: whether it's just a speaker or a team of speakers
Speaker 2: coming to the school to try and push a message
Speaker 2: to you, usually about something positive or something healthy eating
Speaker 2: or whatnot. And you're watching this going you are the
Speaker 2: fucking biggest loser in the world. Do you think they
Speaker 2: realized at the time. Surely they must realize it, But
Speaker 2: why are you doing this? So why they persist to
Speaker 2: do it? Even to this day twenty twenty five, they're
Speaker 2: still taking this approach. It doesn't work.
Speaker 4: Do you know how many actors are like employed at
Speaker 4: any given time. It's on like two percent. So I
Speaker 4: think you'll take a check anyway if you want to.
Speaker 2: I've got a love of performing as well.
Speaker 4: But oh my god, yeah, I mean motivational education, educational
Speaker 4: groups or speakers, particularly ones that threw a bit of
Speaker 4: drama or music or comedy into there. To quote my
Speaker 4: man Crusty, there's always dead.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you try and be polite, sort of sit there
Speaker 2: and lots sort of pretend to laugh and just thinking,
Speaker 2: you guys.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we had one come to our school. I mean,
Speaker 4: I don't know if they were doing this kind of thing.
Speaker 4: But Geelong has a trip called the Wooly Jumpers. Do
Speaker 4: you have you ever heard of them? Yeah, sort of
Speaker 4: like a I guess a drama troop or something like that. Now,
Speaker 4: I don't think they necessarily come to school and say, hey, kids,
Speaker 4: don't smirk. I mean I think these guys are probably
Speaker 4: but out is probably government funded.
Speaker 2: At this there's someone who has paid so much money
Speaker 2: and there's a team and they come up by it
Speaker 2: like that is jeanis the kids are gonna love it?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 4: I Meanwhile, they're taking, they're breaking a lot of money
Speaker 4: from you know, sort of tobacco tacks or whatever. It's like,
Speaker 4: I suppose we better do something to tell our kids
Speaker 4: not to smoke. Yeah, but you Jumpers came in. I
Speaker 4: think they were doing something about you know, bullying's bear.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh is it?
Speaker 4: Thanks for the tip as I get a swirly. The
Speaker 4: main reason I remember is I'm pretty sure that when
Speaker 4: they came to our school, one of the members I
Speaker 4: was OSCAR nominated Australian actor Rachel Griffith's no shit, yeah
Speaker 4: really doing what she was part of the Wooly Jumpers.
Speaker 4: Just you know, it was like a troop of maybe
Speaker 4: four or five people, okay, yeah, and they played various characters.
Speaker 2: Or whatever, or you do various skits and bits. I'm
Speaker 2: pretty sure Rachel Griffiths was one of them. We had.
Speaker 2: I'm just looking it up here. Healthy Harold the Draft,
Speaker 2: Howld the Draft, The Life education man mentioned health Herald
Speaker 2: fuck man like that was. It was the time of
Speaker 2: year where you're so you saw the health that we
Speaker 2: called the life Ed bus would arrive, You're like, Harold's
Speaker 2: here and the get there. And I was telling Nicola
Speaker 2: this week because they're having some sort of dental van
Speaker 2: coming to Elliot School, and I said, we had this
Speaker 2: life Ed van with this howld the draft and it's
Speaker 2: just stuck with me and it's off talking about healthy
Speaker 2: eating and things like that. I remember you'd sit in
Speaker 2: this van and woman was sitt there and all of
Speaker 2: a sudden this puppet would come out and her arm's
Speaker 2: clearly there. But when you're like grade one too, I
Speaker 2: think we're grade three, so were you're starting to go,
Speaker 2: what's what her arm doing? That might be your hand
Speaker 2: and might be And then the grade four, five sixty
Speaker 2: is sort of going along with the charade, so almost
Speaker 2: like what's it called the plays in England where yeh
Speaker 2: pantos It's like, yeah, like a pantomime behind you, yes,
Speaker 2: that kind of thing. Were like, it is going along
Speaker 2: with it because that's what he's going along with it.
Speaker 2: But grade one too, you're like, I can't wait to
Speaker 2: meet him like you believe it was Harold. Harold was
Speaker 2: in Yeah, yeah, Life ed Van and that worked. You know.
Speaker 2: That wasn't kids trying to people come out trying to
Speaker 2: be like cool and doing raps. It was just how
Speaker 2: the giraffe is a fucking puppet. Muppets work, man, Muppets
Speaker 2: will work forever. Sure.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm thinking that the people who came to my
Speaker 4: school or whatever with anti smoker or anti bullying or whatever,
Speaker 4: they were mostly well meaning, middle aged people who were
Speaker 4: kind of like, I've got a bit of bit like experience,
Speaker 4: so I'm going to teach you a bit about this
Speaker 4: and that or whatever, so you know, don't smoke or yeah,
Speaker 4: don't bully anyone.
Speaker 2: There is there's Harold by the way. That's that's the
Speaker 2: bus that would arrive. That was the nineties version right there.
Speaker 2: Holy moly, Harold. See maybe it's some England as well,
Speaker 2: but the look there, there's the puppets. See, there's there's Harold,
Speaker 2: and you're like, oh, ship Harold.
Speaker 4: There's a kind of sweetness and innocence to that. I
Speaker 4: am so glad that I left school before these guys
Speaker 4: tried to incorporate like hip hop.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like you're not cool and you're making a
Speaker 2: very cool hard form less cool. Stop doing it. On
Speaker 2: that note, can I start? Of course, Randy's beatboxing just
Speaker 2: schmoke occsually occasionally throwing in like schmog is bad. Don't
Speaker 2: do it, it's just fuck men watching people who can't
Speaker 2: beat box. Trying to beat box is one of the
Speaker 2: last pleasures.
Speaker 4: Whenever Lou and I have had a few drinks with
Speaker 4: their friends or whatever, and some music will come on
Speaker 4: the background, like little guy guy can wrap, like, oh.
Speaker 2: No, don't do it.
Speaker 4: I can't, I can't, don't do that. I can recite
Speaker 4: the lyrics to Baby Got Back, and I'll do it
Speaker 4: with a great deal of enthusiasm.
Speaker 2: My version of rap has been able to sing the
Speaker 2: verses of five, six, seven eight by Steps. I was
Speaker 2: the only kids school that can do it, and I
Speaker 2: was like the coolest kick. I could sing all the lyrics.
Speaker 4: For some reason, people seem to find an amusing that
Speaker 4: that me, the whitest person on earth, knows all the
Speaker 4: lyrics the Baby Got Back by by some mix a lot.
Speaker 2: What about Joel Turner? Joel Turner guy from he made
Speaker 2: a living at a beat box. He was like the
Speaker 2: first famous beat boxer in Australia, which is white dude
Speaker 2: with his hat on side by sideways. What else is
Speaker 2: you enjoy I enjoyed rain as fake coughing. When he
Speaker 2: sees the guy just having a dart at the bar
Speaker 2: trying to get his attention, it's like, you're just And
Speaker 2: that's another example of Trey and Matt trying to really
Speaker 2: position the anti smokers as the bad guys. I think, yeah,
Speaker 2: or people who just pulled dick moves like that.
Speaker 4: I mean, even if I was just very very anti smoking,
Speaker 4: I would never sort of goak. He's just like, maybe
Speaker 4: do you mind taking that outside? I mean more people,
Speaker 4: more people are not smoking in here than are smoking.
Speaker 2: Smoking dustink though. Oh we went to we went to
Speaker 2: look at a kitten recently, and clearly they were smokers
Speaker 2: in the house.
Speaker 4: Was that was that like the best day of your life?
Speaker 2: It was we went, we went in there and the
Speaker 2: kitten was terrible, wouldn't come near. It was like he said,
Speaker 2: you say that kitten was terrible. It was there was
Speaker 2: just no good cat. But it's understanding because we get
Speaker 2: to get there and I'll get out of the car.
Speaker 2: I was like something smells a bit off. Maybe it's
Speaker 2: just these trees who are out in Lara. And we
Speaker 2: get inside and the first thing he says, she goes,
Speaker 2: your house stinks. That was like, oh ship. She's like,
Speaker 2: she's like, no, that's the trees outside, goes and trees outside. Oh,
Speaker 2: and A just kept going, what's that smell? And like
Speaker 2: it was just cigarettes, you know, And it was just
Speaker 2: really when you when you don't live with someone that smokes,
Speaker 2: even though we're at the football now, right and you're
Speaker 2: out there outside and so goes for a smoke comes back,
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, you really smell it now? Oh god?
Speaker 4: Yeah, no love, and I have said many times because
Speaker 4: I mean we were both sort of night clovers and
Speaker 4: the and the nineties or whatever, and you'd go out
Speaker 4: and you'd go through a pack and a half a
Speaker 4: darts Yeah in one night.
Speaker 2: God, yeah, how are we? Oka? Good?
Speaker 4: Fyear good has great?
Speaker 2: Forty five dollars I'm gone at the time, I know, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: closer to the lug giving them away pretty much you'd
Speaker 2: be like, you know, cool, next bog back and a half.
Speaker 2: It was like ten bucks a pack maybe less, yeah,
Speaker 2: ten bucks back then the equivalent of like forty now though, right,
Speaker 2: But it didn't feel expensive or was it? Was it
Speaker 2: the equivalent of like ten dollars back then, because ten
Speaker 2: dollars back then was more money than what it is now.
Speaker 2: That's true. But like I say, video games that I've
Speaker 2: still got video games when I was a kid, it
Speaker 2: says like seventy dollars on the cop and I'm like,
Speaker 2: Mom dropped seventy bucks in ninety ninety six for this
Speaker 2: one fucking game that's like one hundred and twenty dollars.
Speaker 4: But we both realized, you know, you'd get home, you'd
Speaker 4: sort of wake up the like, oh my god, my
Speaker 4: close's absolutely weak, especially someone who doesn't know you must
Speaker 4: read just from you know, sort of you know, seeping
Speaker 4: out through my fucking palls or one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of gross. It looks super cool, but it's.
Speaker 4: Kind of great.
Speaker 2: It's all about the visuals though, very much. So yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: what do you enjoy? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I mentioned that you have educational groups coming to your
Speaker 4: school and like trying to very be very cool in
Speaker 4: telling you how to live a good life. Clear plead, terrible,
Speaker 4: terrible stuff. I just love Cartman's hero worship of Rob
Speaker 4: Ryder when he say he goes around imposing his will
Speaker 4: on people.
Speaker 2: It's awesome again, and it's just dawned to me having
Speaker 2: Cartman this show's biggest villain of all of South Park.
Speaker 2: Even he sees Rhiner as a bad guy, it's clear
Speaker 2: what their stance is on this. Oh yeah, yeah, so
Speaker 2: this probably is the first time they've been so in
Speaker 2: your face with no right a bad be tobacco. Okay,
Speaker 2: the Big.
Speaker 4: Tobacco song where is sort of a bit bloom perish
Speaker 4: but who wants to live to be ninety anyway? Kind
Speaker 4: of funny, And I was like when Cartman is sincere
Speaker 4: or putting on his sincere face, you know, and he's
Speaker 4: doing that adah, I guess and the proof. I mean,
Speaker 4: I've been around long enough to see actual ads like
Speaker 4: that where you have like a very innocent kid, go, well,
Speaker 4: they you research into this disease you know isn't worth
Speaker 4: the money, but what about my laugh? It's like a
Speaker 4: fuck you kid. But carbon doing that I think was
Speaker 4: just hilarious. There's there's one or two more that I enjoy,
Speaker 4: but we'll talk about it as we go through.
Speaker 2: That's okay, Remember there are no stupid questions just stupid people.
Speaker 2: Hit me with your first question because I started with
Speaker 2: favorite moments. You're taking away.
Speaker 4: We're shaking things up, you know, South Park style, We're
Speaker 4: not sticking to the regular format. According to butt out,
Speaker 4: how many smoking debts are there per year?
Speaker 2: One of mine as well, six hundred thousand?
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, next question?
Speaker 2: What was my first question? My next one for you
Speaker 2: will be what is the name of Rob Rhiner's drag character? Oh?
Speaker 2: Oh god, damn read a poon? Reach a poon? That's right,
Speaker 2: I forget that.
Speaker 4: You mentioned the guy enjoying a cigarette at the bar.
Speaker 4: He works fourteen hours a day where.
Speaker 2: The saw mill? At the saw mill? Yeah? What was
Speaker 2: on his hat? I was gonna be one of my
Speaker 2: trivia questions. You right too. I think I think it
Speaker 2: was bud light.
Speaker 4: I think it was Was it an actual because normally
Speaker 4: they'd just say like beer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, says something a bud light. I'll try and find
Speaker 2: one more question for you. Okay, okay, well I think
Speaker 2: I may have even spoiled it before, But what is
Speaker 2: the name of Rob Reiner's crew? Think of what you
Speaker 2: do when you're calling to stop a bad guy. It's
Speaker 2: like call you see if you see this guy on
Speaker 2: the street, it's call you see the alt call crime stoppers, crimestop.
Speaker 2: So this guy, these guys are called smoke stoppers. Yes,
Speaker 2: oh okay, I saw the crime Stoppers adds. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it'll be like little bits in between TV shows,
Speaker 2: so like the following man has wrecked fifteen women. If
Speaker 2: you seem the streets, call clime stoppers right now.
Speaker 4: Crime stops used to have an actual show as well,
Speaker 4: did it?
Speaker 2: Okay? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I was actually when I was working as
Speaker 4: an extra in TV shows and movies, I was on
Speaker 4: a crime Stoppers thing. Yeah, just as that's in the background.
Speaker 4: I wasn't like the actual criminal.
Speaker 2: Have you seen this man?
Speaker 4: By the way, Rob Ryan, he's like I said, he's
Speaker 4: got a very big political activism section on his Wikipedia page.
Speaker 4: One of the things that he was involved in. Yes,
Speaker 4: Ryner is a member of the Social Responsibility Task Force.
Speaker 4: They sound like fun, an organization advocating moderation where social
Speaker 4: issues such as barnes and tobacco use and the entertainment
Speaker 4: industry meet. So yeah, I think he's basically trying to
Speaker 4: stop characters in movies smoking and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4: Because as I've said many times. One of the reasons
Speaker 4: I first lit up at Dart was because Bruce Willis
Speaker 4: looks so cool in Die Hard.
Speaker 2: He's a very bad view. But that's the thing. Little
Speaker 2: things like that do make a difference long term. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: just taking secrettes out of films like that, And I
Speaker 2: get why people will be annoyed by it, because it
Speaker 2: does make you look cool and things like that. But
Speaker 2: there are things that are probably more important than looking cool.
Speaker 2: That is true, like actually living this. You can't look
Speaker 2: cool if you're dead. I don't know.
Speaker 4: That's the other thing I did on the weekend. I
Speaker 4: watched Papa Francesco's funeral. Did you rest in peace? Pope Francis?
Speaker 2: Did you fall asleep as well? Uh?
Speaker 4: I think we turned on after twenty minutes, like we're
Speaker 4: getting a nice travelogue of Rome here?
Speaker 2: Did you wear a blue suit?
Speaker 4: This is the one time I'm going to say this.
Speaker 4: I felt a little bad for Donald Trump because he
Speaker 4: wasn't the only one in.
Speaker 2: A blue suit. Of course he wasn't. No, Prince William
Speaker 2: was in a blue suit. Of course he was almost
Speaker 2: the same color. Yep.
Speaker 4: So yeah, because I initially saw the things like that's
Speaker 4: really disrespectful to Papa Francesco Donald and yeah, yeah, of
Speaker 4: course Trump's going to do that.
Speaker 2: Then you look around, it's like there's about three or
Speaker 2: four other people wearing blue suit. That's Prince William, Prince William,
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Speaker 2: in depth review, our run through. You could say, of ah,
Speaker 2: but remember the episode. So the original edit of this
Speaker 2: episode was December third, two thousand and three. Free What
Speaker 2: was I doing there? Two thousand and free? Watching too
Speaker 2: much tree Park?
Speaker 4: We're going to put you on a thirteen thirteen thirty two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, right, two thousand and three. So the
Speaker 2: box office films at the time. Chance we are doing
Speaker 2: this again, I clues, you need clues while they're twenty
Speaker 2: two years ago? Man, Yeah, well they're all kids films.
Speaker 2: Third was alf it's carryover from the previous. But the
Speaker 2: next two that's for adults. Next two, yeah it is here.
Speaker 2: The next two are two different ones. Okay, last week,
Speaker 2: would you like some clues on?
Speaker 4: I would for number what's the clue num?
Speaker 2: So the number one is a house of some kind,
Speaker 2: Disney Film Disney Film House, oh god, damn person in
Speaker 2: the movie might make some waffles. No, I'm blanking. It's
Speaker 2: the Haunted Mansion. Oh, Eddie, right, it did. Yeah, he
Speaker 2: voiced Donkey that if I saw the Harnted Mansion. I
Speaker 2: think I was just it was this. I came out
Speaker 2: at a time when I was too old to watch it.
Speaker 4: Eddie Murphy amazing talent once in a generational sort of
Speaker 4: super and over of talent.
Speaker 2: Had some god awful forgettable movies. Yeah. It was just
Speaker 2: the year, wasn't it. I think so?
Speaker 4: Yeah, because they even they rebooted Haunted Mansion not long ago.
Speaker 2: Do you know this? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I still know what's that one?
Speaker 2: Either? Okay, what's another film which I never saw and
Speaker 2: I'm probably never gonna watch. It stars another person from Shrek?
Speaker 2: Is it Mike Mos? Yeah? It is a terrible kids movie?
Speaker 2: Is that the Cat? And? Oh? That's this ship movie?
Speaker 2: I was terrible? I think.
Speaker 4: Actually, I don't know if the Doctor Seuss estate stipulated this,
Speaker 4: but I think after this they were like no more
Speaker 4: live action Doctor Sue's adaptations animated only.
Speaker 2: Because I bought in and lora axe and stuff.
Speaker 4: Because he had The Grinch in two thousand with Jim Carrey,
Speaker 4: which I didn't like but is apparently getting sort of loved, Yeah,
Speaker 4: getting religated. I remember sitting through it going, this is garbage.
Speaker 2: I hate this. Yeah, I remember every adult hated it
Speaker 2: and every keep us Yeah right, but.
Speaker 4: Then yeah, cat and the hat came out and it
Speaker 4: was like, this is worse than the Grinch. Yeah, let's
Speaker 4: stop now, let's stop now. I mean, yeah, if we're
Speaker 4: gonna do what we do with Animal.
Speaker 2: So we can thank Mike Mya as much as we
Speaker 2: can think of the person that plays no wife and
Speaker 2: no more live action fucking Disney movies. Is we act
Speaker 2: poor old Rachel Zegler. Yeah, and fell on the sword
Speaker 2: for us.
Speaker 4: Apparently she's actually not bad at it, like Gallagher Dott
Speaker 4: is not good as.
Speaker 2: The evil's watching this movie.
Speaker 4: No one's watching it. People are watching movies though movies
Speaker 4: are back.
Speaker 2: I still haven't watched Mefassa, so I'm never going to.
Speaker 2: I refuse to watch it. I was like, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: no no no.
Speaker 4: I enjoyed the original animated Lion King. I have no
Speaker 4: desire to see a live action Lion King. I don't
Speaker 4: think it would work.
Speaker 2: It's stupid. It doesn't make any sense. But yeah, Sinn
Speaker 2: is doing well.
Speaker 4: Sinner's doing very well. Minecraft movie Magna shit done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not because it's a good movie. That's because
Speaker 2: people are trying to make memes. But that's the thing
Speaker 2: getting people back good.
Speaker 4: Good movies and bad movies. Taylor's old as time people.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what.
Speaker 4: Tell you what did really well at the US box
Speaker 4: office last weekend, Redeme Tolous Sit Yeah, the re release
Speaker 4: and it made sound like twenty million on its opening weekend.
Speaker 2: I think Hayden Christian's done a good job of marketing it.
Speaker 2: Everyone's going, hey, we were meant to this guy. He's
Speaker 2: actually pretty good. And I didn't see a great tweet
Speaker 2: where I was like, I do love see anyone come
Speaker 2: out of a Revenge of Sif, going oh, there's a
Speaker 2: lot of bad parts in this movie too. Everyone it
Speaker 2: being the dark fade a bit at the end. It's like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's a lot of shit leading up to it. But
Speaker 2: it does have that awesome Style Wars moment of the
Speaker 2: kid going what are you going to do now? And again?
Speaker 2: Or whatever? You're like the little kids jump when it happens,
Speaker 2: you're like, oh no, or sixty six Going Down to
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Speaker 2: the original day, December third, two thousand and three. Who
Speaker 2: do you reckon? Wrote and directed this episode, mister Davis.
Speaker 4: I think it was I think Trey Parker put his
Speaker 4: name on it. I think Matt Stone is really the
Speaker 4: power behind the throne. This is Trey Parker all the way,
Speaker 4: all the way, all the time.
Speaker 2: That's just you know, just enjoying life.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the reason he is so like, oh what
Speaker 4: we're going to throw forty million at years, laughed about it.
Speaker 4: Guess what, I got another one hundred and forty million
Speaker 4: earning interests. I'm sitting on a Beachjourning twenty percent. It's
Speaker 4: two diehard references in one episode.
Speaker 2: That's what you come for. The episode kicks off with
Speaker 2: mister Mackie trying to get the attention of the kids
Speaker 2: at the school.
Speaker 4: Well, this was almost one of my favorite moments, just
Speaker 4: you know, mister Mackie's like, oh, we're interest down and
Speaker 4: just coming in off the top rope, as you might
Speaker 4: like to say, using the feedback to shut up the kids.
Speaker 2: That's brilliant. I loved it. Every school had that teacher
Speaker 2: that just not that they didn't give a fuck, but
Speaker 2: they knew how to just wrangle the kids in. And
Speaker 2: the older I got, the more I realized they're the
Speaker 2: teachers that I respected the most.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, there's a great line in a Stephen King book.
Speaker 4: I think it's Christine, and this always stuck with me
Speaker 4: for some reason. Okay, the main character is getting horribly
Speaker 4: bullied and one day one of these teachers comes in
Speaker 4: and sort of stands up from or whatever, and King writes,
Speaker 4: this guy was small and bald and all that kind
Speaker 4: of stuff, but no one fucked with him because they
Speaker 4: knew that he wasn't afraid of kids like so many
Speaker 4: teachers are, and I'm like, wow, that's really interesting.
Speaker 2: I don't even shout it to a teacher from my
Speaker 2: high school, mister Cabri, and may have even give him
Speaker 2: a shout before I think you have. Yeah. He was
Speaker 2: a German teacher and we always saw him as like
Speaker 2: weird and creepy, mean, and when you get to year twelve,
Speaker 2: you're like, you know what, here's the one that's going
Speaker 2: to push us in the right direction. He had our
Speaker 2: best intentions at heart all the time, never fucked around.
Speaker 2: We learned the most of mister Carey. What a fucking legend.
Speaker 2: And in primary school it was mister Warland. I'll still
Speaker 2: to this day try to track him down just to
Speaker 2: thank him, right, because he was the guy that he
Speaker 2: used to walk around and kids would run and fear
Speaker 2: out because he would walk around and say, hey, do
Speaker 2: something naughty, pick up twenty papers, right, which was like
Speaker 2: pick up stuff on the rubbish on the ground. Not
Speaker 2: only was he punishing kids for being naughty, but he
Speaker 2: was cleaning up the school at the same time. What
Speaker 2: a fucking legend. And he was the one that incorporated
Speaker 2: singing songs in the school assemblies, right, because I got
Speaker 2: a elliot schoo assemblys and they're fine, but they just
Speaker 2: kids at the front. And today I did dish and
Speaker 2: this week we're going to be doing this fundraiser. He
Speaker 2: would get the entire school to sing songs, so beatles
Speaker 2: songs and you mentioned the line can before, Like I
Speaker 2: remember the whole school singing just can't wait to be king,
Speaker 2: And it was my job to project the lyrics up
Speaker 2: onto this big white board during assembly, and the entire
Speaker 2: school would be doing dancing together and singing songs. And
Speaker 2: that was all mister Walland he look back then You're like,
Speaker 2: fucking legend. Good on. I just want to give my
Speaker 2: high five. I hope he's still with us, because I
Speaker 2: just I one day just want to shake sand and
Speaker 2: say thank you. Because because of him, I used to
Speaker 2: be terrified of everything. He was the one that made
Speaker 2: me get up in front of the school and do
Speaker 2: these lyrics and push me to do it. And I think, my, uh,
Speaker 2: what would you call it my fearlessness? Yeah, not fearlessnesses
Speaker 2: but blindness. Yeah, just I wasn't scared all the time,
Speaker 2: you know, just because of him. Yeah, absolute legend. Well,
Speaker 2: the teachers is fear the most. Usually the ones that
Speaker 2: are the best.
Speaker 4: If we take anything away from this episode, I do
Speaker 4: want to scare you until it doesn't scare you anymore.
Speaker 2: Then the team come out and it's just everything it
Speaker 2: shouldn't be. They're just overly excited to be there, and
Speaker 2: immediately the kids just turn on them. I think it's
Speaker 2: Kyle just goes oh no, oh, no, hy students, how
Speaker 2: we are feeling today?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 2: Hey, did you guys know that each year over six
Speaker 2: hundred thousand people a year die from smoking a year.
Speaker 3: Six hundred thousand.
Speaker 4: Are you sure you're not just blowing smoke?
Speaker 2: Blow smoke. U's no way, because we don't need to smoke.
Speaker 2: It needed a year, right, kids, But break it down house.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's cool to say no, but.
Speaker 3: Smoking starts to go.
Speaker 2: No smoking. Kyle in this group, right, Kyle's one has
Speaker 2: all the bags under his eyes. He looks a bit older.
Speaker 2: I'm watching this going. He's the Blue Wiggle. He's the
Speaker 2: one who knows how much of a gravy train this is.
Speaker 2: He like, because the Blue Wiggle created the Wiggles, right,
Speaker 2: all of them, all of the rest of them. They've
Speaker 2: cashed out. They're like, I've made my money. I'm done.
Speaker 2: There's like eight Wiggles now, but the Blue Wiggle he's
Speaker 2: always there because he's just like, I'm keeping this gravy
Speaker 2: train going, is that Anthony?
Speaker 4: Anthony?
Speaker 2: Anthony, yeah, Anthony, Yeah, I mean great guy. Right. The
Speaker 2: Wiggles are great modern day wiggles. Say what you will,
Speaker 2: like whatever, but I'm just watching this going. They're all young,
Speaker 2: but he's older. He's been doing this for fifteen years.
Speaker 2: Is a life. They'll move on to other things. He's
Speaker 2: going to be doing this in another ten years. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but they make terrible puns, which I enjoy. Are you
Speaker 2: blowing smoke? And why is it every nineties group they
Speaker 2: have to say break it down's break it down, Let's
Speaker 2: break it down. And they're seeing the rap about how
Speaker 2: it's cool to say no, and they even attempt to
Speaker 2: beat boxing what not. Kenny starts eating his own hands
Speaker 2: and just hang just can't believe what's happening. And they say,
Speaker 2: if you smoke, you could grow up to be a
Speaker 2: failure or grow up to be dead. And then they say,
Speaker 2: if you don't smoke, you'll be just like us. Of
Speaker 2: course we cut to the boys immediately smoking behind the
Speaker 2: school because that's where you smoked, right, oh yeah. Every
Speaker 2: school has a little spot where that's where the smokers go.
Speaker 2: And you see walking down there at lunch home, You're like,
Speaker 2: the teachers know they're going to that. I think they're
Speaker 2: being secretive going down there. O'dstand a little smoking spot
Speaker 2: if I know that's where you smoke. The teachers know
Speaker 2: that's where you smoke. It's so funny.
Speaker 4: When you're a kid, you thinking, well, then well if
Speaker 4: they don't see me doing it, then I'm fine clovering
Speaker 4: their eyes.
Speaker 2: I can't see you can't see it. I can wreak
Speaker 2: of cigarettes. When you go to math class after lunch, yep,
Speaker 2: what grow an idiot. Mister Mackie comes though, but they
Speaker 2: can't stop coughing. He questions what they're doing back here,
Speaker 2: and they tried to hold in their coughs. Gets to
Speaker 2: the point where stand, I think coughs up some flam.
Speaker 2: Oh that's gross. And then he goes onto a big
Speaker 2: rant about how smoking is bad and grown blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: But they flicked their butts into the dumpster, causing a
Speaker 2: fire to happen behind him, a literal dumpster fire, A
Speaker 2: literal dumpster fire, which burns down the school and I
Speaker 2: just really got to kick out of mister Macklin, mister
Speaker 2: Mackiews and mister mac My version of mister mackiet school
Speaker 2: was mister Macklin. That's why I was going to confuse
Speaker 2: it's so weird. Curse okay, and uh what holy shit,
Speaker 2: you got it no matter how many times mister slave says,
Speaker 2: Jesus christis slaves me always good always And yeah ooops
Speaker 2: and I've got here. Have you ever accidentally started a fire?
Speaker 2: I've mentioned now started to causes the barbecue to catch
Speaker 2: fire a couple of years ago, never used the barbecue sense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had a very brief period when I was
Speaker 4: a small child of life fires.
Speaker 2: But yeah really yeah, yeah, just like fire is interesting.
Speaker 4: And by lighting matches and just looking and going wow,
Speaker 4: that's interesting, or yeah, being interested in like open fireplaces
Speaker 4: or pop belly staves or whatever. Our good family friends
Speaker 4: of the Darcy, I don't th've ever told this story.
Speaker 2: I burned their house to the fucking ground.
Speaker 4: They had a farm added like Point Henry, not far away,
Speaker 4: and yeah, I was we used to get my My
Speaker 4: sister Awena had.
Speaker 2: A horse there, also named Twine Henry. She loved that horse.
Speaker 4: But i'd go down occasionally and there'll be nothing to
Speaker 4: do because it's a farm.
Speaker 2: Where are the books? Where's it? Where's the TV?
Speaker 4: No, there's a fireplace, though, so I think I was
Speaker 4: just sort of poking around to go that's interesting when
Speaker 4: I sort of deconstruct that burning log. Oh, that burning
Speaker 4: log has caught on something.
Speaker 2: Ah.
Speaker 4: Not that the house burned down or anything like that,
Speaker 4: but there was fire where there shouldn't be fire. I
Speaker 4: think I was able to put it out, but I
Speaker 4: was kind of like, it's gonna be hard to explain
Speaker 4: that away. We had a portable heat I only I
Speaker 4: was invited back to the Darcy Farmer. I I luckily
Speaker 4: didn't burn the house down, right, but this could have
Speaker 4: gone very pair shaped. We got really early one Saturday
Speaker 4: morning and it was cold and adducted heating wasn't working.
Speaker 4: So we had this little portable heater.
Speaker 2: I'd say it was about thirty centimeters by about twenty
Speaker 2: this little box right and the front of the heat
Speaker 2: come out, just the front of it right, and I
Speaker 2: put it. I put it down. I hadn't used it before.
Speaker 2: I thought, oh, I'm gonna be I alternate heat and
Speaker 2: I'll warm the house up for everybody before everyone gets up.
Speaker 2: I'm watching video hits a rage, probably yeah, I put
Speaker 2: it there, and I'm sitting down and it's still pretty cools.
Speaker 2: Why is this not hitting the house where there's no
Speaker 2: heat coming out? What's going on? I had to face down,
Speaker 2: Oh my god, on the carpet, oh boy, for like
Speaker 2: twenty minutes, oh dear. And I picked it up and
Speaker 2: there's just nothing there. The carpet had burnt away down
Speaker 2: through to the concrete slab. Holy shit. But it didn't
Speaker 2: catch fire. But I was just like, oh shit. I
Speaker 2: couldn't explain that away. Could we just had this giant
Speaker 2: rectangle missing from the middle of the living room floor.
Speaker 4: Did you say I'm sorry I put it they stand
Speaker 4: or did you just say, oh, it must have just
Speaker 4: knocked over.
Speaker 2: I thought in that moment, I thought about what can
Speaker 2: I say to cover up for this? But I just
Speaker 2: went it's probably best of me to say what happened.
Speaker 2: And Mum was just like, Dad was angry that I
Speaker 2: started without asking me, and it was like, ah, it
Speaker 2: was a mistake. You know, you can be angry and mistake,
Speaker 2: but to punish for a mistake, unless I say to
Speaker 2: Elliott I'm not going to punish your mate for doing
Speaker 2: the wrong thing the first time. But now you know
Speaker 2: it's the wrong thing to do. Let's learn from the
Speaker 2: less do it again, and then you'll be in trouble. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because I feel like punishing someone for the first mistake
Speaker 2: is never the right thing to do. Oh no, no,
Speaker 2: So now on the principal's office. But it's just the
Speaker 2: door because the school is burnt to the ground. They apologize,
Speaker 2: I am savvy, but the parents arrive and they turn
Speaker 2: on them immediately. My son is not a filthy smoker.
Speaker 2: I have no son. I love here again, this is there.
Speaker 2: This is the thing with the episode. I guess that
Speaker 2: the school has legitimately burnt to the ground, but they're
Speaker 2: more concerned in the fact that their kids were smoking,
Speaker 2: not the fact that there's no school left or their
Speaker 2: lives were in danger. It's just, oh, they were smoking.
Speaker 2: Cartman gets granted for three weeks. Now, did you watch
Speaker 2: the unsensored version? Because carm gets granded for three weeks
Speaker 2: and he just says, you fucking hiddy. Something about just
Speaker 2: hearing the swear makes it so much funnier. Swears when used,
Speaker 2: they don't use it very often in itself, like anymore,
Speaker 2: I felt they use them a lot more in the
Speaker 2: earlier days. Now when you watch it uncensored, they using
Speaker 2: maybe once twice an episode. It really emphasizes that makes
Speaker 2: it funnier. Yeah, but Sheila says that the tobacco companies
Speaker 2: have gotten to them, and Kyle sees, well, this is
Speaker 2: the opportunity to pass the blame. It wasn't us we
Speaker 2: were doing, it was them for manipulating our minds. He
Speaker 2: can't pretends that his mind is being controlled, and they
Speaker 2: demand to bring them down. As Sheila suggests, they get
Speaker 2: the one person who can help them do so, Rob Ryaner. So.
Speaker 2: Now Rob Ryner's smoke stoppers, and he's baffled as to
Speaker 2: why he's still getting letters from parents saying their kids
Speaker 2: are smoking when he's he's increased the taxes, he's had
Speaker 2: smokes removed from films, his forced amount of restaurants. He
Speaker 2: can kids still be smoking. Meanwhile, he's sweating profusely and
Speaker 2: out of shape, eating a hamburger. So that's that's the
Speaker 2: point they're trying to make. Those we discussed earlier. He
Speaker 2: won't let the kids of America be brainwashed by tobacco. Companies.
Speaker 2: This is war. Now in south Park there's a big
Speaker 2: town meeting. I guess it's a town meeting. What would
Speaker 2: you call it? Gathering outdoors thetown assembly about welcoming Rhiner
Speaker 2: to the town, and Kyle suggested the boys, you know what,
Speaker 2: we should probably come clean because this is going to
Speaker 2: end up just like any other time, to get out
Speaker 2: of hand, and we could just shut it down immediately.
Speaker 2: The boys like, no, no, we can't do that because
Speaker 2: we don't want to get granded for three weeks. No,
Speaker 2: this is how it's going to go. Rob Ryan then arrives,
Speaker 2: are you going to big kick out of Garrison? Saying
Speaker 2: here he comes. They do it all the time when
Speaker 2: a celebrity arrives in south Park. They do it in
Speaker 2: Simpsons as well. Can you remember the last time somebody
Speaker 2: came to Geelong? Whether like someone so he's coming to town.
Speaker 2: I feel like Geelong has sort of outgrown that small
Speaker 2: town mentality a little bit. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean something that's currently happening in Gelong or maybe
Speaker 4: about to happen in Geelong as they're filming a big
Speaker 4: Hollywood movie really well, they're certainly filming scenes from it
Speaker 4: at Condnia Park at GMHBS which the movie is called
Speaker 4: Mister Irrelevant and it stars a guy named David corn Sweat.
Speaker 4: He's going to be seen as Superman coming very soon.
Speaker 4: I love the like now that's irrelevant, and also the
Speaker 4: terrific actor Michael Shannon. Okay, you were of my own. Yeah,
Speaker 4: oh he'sn't head about him. Very good actor. But apparently
Speaker 4: it's one of those sports movies where this guy is
Speaker 4: named like last in the draft, back in NFL. Yeah
Speaker 4: in the Yeah, in the NFL draft.
Speaker 2: Back in the back in the day, back in the
Speaker 2: seventies or eighties. Back in the day's like twenty ten.
Speaker 4: Now that's correct. I'm going to renegotiate my version of
Speaker 4: back in the day. But yeah, something like back in
Speaker 4: the seventies or the eighties or something. But nonetheless, you
Speaker 4: know it's like, oh, well, this guy's just making up
Speaker 4: the numbers or whatever. But he tended it to be
Speaker 4: like really motivational and inspirational. So anyway, I think they're
Speaker 4: filming like a sports scene that requires a crowd at
Speaker 4: Gordinia Park.
Speaker 2: When's that happening. That's a really good question. To be
Speaker 2: a part of said crowd, you probably could be well,
Speaker 2: let's look it up, shall we. Maybe they'll feel it
Speaker 2: like half time at the footy was already a crowd there.
Speaker 2: Stay's paining extras.
Speaker 4: Hollywood is coming to the Geelung's premier sports for his
Speaker 4: scent when Superman actor David Curran Sweat descends on the
Speaker 4: footy ground to film a new movie later this month.
Speaker 4: This was published on April the tenth, So yeah, happened
Speaker 4: place the thirtieth, twenty ninth.
Speaker 2: Probably has.
Speaker 4: GMHBS stand and then we gonna be half lemits wrapped
Speaker 4: to tenders ahead of Geelong's Round nine clash against GWS,
Speaker 4: where the US movie did filmed at the ground. Scenes
Speaker 4: from the upcoming flip Mister Irrelevant will be filmed at
Speaker 4: Goodinia Park between rounds seven and nine from late April
Speaker 4: to early May.
Speaker 2: Good for Geelong.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, they're talking about a lot of films that
Speaker 4: are actually shot in around the Geelong area, the city
Speaker 4: on the Grove, such as the original Mad Max, the
Speaker 4: two thousand and three movie Ned Kelly Sawing the late
Speaker 4: tenth Ledger parts of Ghost Rider were shot in Little River.
Speaker 2: I told you that Mad Max was filmed in my
Speaker 2: fucking auntie's house and they ruined it. They fucked it up,
Speaker 2: just left.
Speaker 4: That's very mad mates of them, I think. But anyway, Yes,
Speaker 4: Geelong City on the grive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, rob Ryner arrives and here he comes, and he
Speaker 2: struggles to get out of his car through demands some
Speaker 2: butter he can slide out, and as he walks out,
Speaker 2: his guts hanging out and his butt's hanging out there
Speaker 2: ever the episodes and he's butt hanging out and I'm like.
Speaker 4: A little not to the title that, but there was
Speaker 4: see this is why you're Dano, I was saying. That
Speaker 4: was a pretty harsh burned on Rob Ryan. I mean
Speaker 4: the whole kind of They make him very jabb of Thehuddish.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean he's probably a nice person. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: he's got children's health at heart, which is a positive thing.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Old Southwark.
Speaker 1: It is so nice to see an entire town come
Speaker 1: together to fight for good health.
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna help you.
Speaker 1: He's poor, innocent children have been seduced into smoking tobacco.
Speaker 2: God, we fight flyle with file. We're gonna use your
Speaker 2: children to bring your tobacco cover you down now and
Speaker 2: the boys now at the bar of all the place
Speaker 2: is the bar. I do that makes sense because they
Speaker 2: have to have him see the cigarette smoking. But like
Speaker 2: we at the bar, it just doesn't make any sense there.
Speaker 2: So he maps out the plan to level out the
Speaker 2: playing field. As he puts it, they're be taking fake
Speaker 2: photos inside the factory one they're on towour to demonstrate
Speaker 2: how they're being brainwashed, and even the boys can see
Speaker 2: that this isn't the right thing to do since they're
Speaker 2: both since it's both as bad as each other. He's like,
Speaker 2: it's okay to lie as long as you know, if
Speaker 2: you know what's better for the person than they do,
Speaker 2: then it's okay to lie. Yeah, well it's just a
Speaker 2: randomout why it's only ends justify the man. Yeah, we're
Speaker 2: gonna lie right back to them. Their lying, so we're
Speaker 2: gonna lie back. And then Robert smells the smoke from
Speaker 2: the guy and the coffee got me. Is so hilarious.
Speaker 2: But this guy's just trying to relax for a fourteen
Speaker 2: hour shift. I'mach just going, this is guy, like, this
Speaker 2: is this is guy's mentality? Is this guy's opinion? Dude?
Speaker 2: Fuck off, I'm just like I need this. But he
Speaker 2: learns that smoking in bars isn't illegal in Colorado. It's like,
Speaker 2: what do you mean? How can I be illegal? And no,
Speaker 2: when he wants to relax, he goes to his holiday
Speaker 2: houses in Mexico. Was good. One is I don't do
Speaker 2: I don't have a holiday house. This is my holiday
Speaker 2: Rob Ryaner said.
Speaker 4: When I went to relax and go to my holiday house,
Speaker 4: in a way, it's like, well, I don't have a
Speaker 4: holiday yours.
Speaker 2: Is in Mexico then or whatever. Whatever. Yeah, everyone's got one,
Speaker 2: everyone's Yeah, he's got his blinders on. So he says,
Speaker 2: you'll put a stop to this cartman, as you were
Speaker 2: saying earlier, idolized him for the way he imposes his
Speaker 2: will onto others. We're now at big Tobacco and Ryana
Speaker 2: says you have to do what they do what he says,
Speaker 2: and they'll be able to sue them for two billion dollars.
Speaker 2: Can you handle it? What does Cartman saying? So for
Speaker 2: two billion dollars, I can hand on my grandpa's ball,
Speaker 2: that's right. So they'll do anything. So they'll do anything
Speaker 2: to get the kids, hold on smoking their liars, their frauds,
Speaker 2: and then cuts to him walking in dressed as a woman. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: as who wants a tour for the kids, and Kevin Harris,
Speaker 2: the VP, I'll beg tobacco. He takes him on this
Speaker 2: history tour, talking about how the Native Americans were the
Speaker 2: first to smoke tobacco and explains how tobacco helped build
Speaker 2: America and if tobacco, many of their black friends wouldn't
Speaker 2: even be here today, quickly glossing over of the fact
Speaker 2: that that was a slave industry. But yeah, so they
Speaker 2: do paint them as bad guys or that they're doing
Speaker 2: the wrong thing as well. But I would say that
Speaker 2: they do that as more of a they're doing in
Speaker 2: a way that if you're, say you're thirteen fourteen watching this,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure you'd pick up on that.
Speaker 4: I don't think you would. No, I think you just go, oh, well,
Speaker 4: you know, the tobacco industry has a long and storied history.
Speaker 2: Why are they here because of them? Yeah, because it's
Speaker 2: the way, it's all the way, he's all the way
Speaker 2: he's say this. Know.
Speaker 4: I mean, it may well have been the case back
Speaker 4: in the day that if you're just smoking, as Monty
Speaker 4: Ben said, regular rule tobacco, tobacco, Yeah, maybe it was
Speaker 4: just fine. But when you start putting all manner of
Speaker 4: additives into it to make you know, nicotine more addictive.
Speaker 4: I think that's when you start sucking up a bit more.
Speaker 4: Here I'm being a shill for the tobacco industry.
Speaker 2: But see when not. So here's the thing with chemicals
Speaker 2: and foods in that Right when I went in the
Speaker 2: Delhi yeah two and seven through to like twenty ten,
Speaker 2: eleven ish, four chicken breasts were a kilo. Now you
Speaker 2: can get two chicken breast for a quie. Yeah, dude,
Speaker 2: they're putting I got a killer of chicken the other
Speaker 2: day and it was two chicken breast, and I went,
Speaker 2: what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we've got stuff in our bodies that shouldn't
Speaker 4: been there.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. So then he explains that they heed
Speaker 2: that they inform them of the dangers of smoking, but
Speaker 2: people can still choose, because that's what America is all about.
Speaker 2: In the car, that seems reasonable. It does sound reasonable,
Speaker 2: And I think that right there, that sentence is the
Speaker 2: point of this episode. You can inform people of the dangers,
Speaker 2: but let them make the choice. Don't take the choice
Speaker 2: away from them. And that's where they get annoyed. With
Speaker 2: Ryte because they're saying he's taking the choice away. People
Speaker 2: can still smoke. It's gonna smoke outside, which he spends
Speaker 2: where you sit on the fence. So then they cut
Speaker 2: to the workers all singing the song much like the
Speaker 2: Umpa Lumpa. And I didn't take any notes of was
Speaker 2: just it was what it was. But you mentioned one
Speaker 2: of the lyrics, what was who wants to live to
Speaker 2: be ninety anyway? Yeah? Some people, sure, yeah, but Margaret
Speaker 2: Mary still going strong and I'm strong indeed.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But then Ryaner takes the photo and then on the
Speaker 2: way out make sure they have run and they have
Speaker 2: him killed somebody as well, because he's just so ridiculous.
Speaker 2: We're now at smoke stoppers that they camp, and the
Speaker 2: boys say, you know what, those tobacco workers, they seemed
Speaker 2: pretty nice. Meanwhile, the people at the smoke stoppers are
Speaker 2: all like vampires, aren't they creatures and zombies and whatnot?
Speaker 2: And he says, Carton says, so smoking brings people a
Speaker 2: little bit of joy and you get to take it
Speaker 2: away from him. Carton's like, yes, this is what I
Speaker 2: want to be a part of. So mister Valgerie photoshops
Speaker 2: cigarettes into the hands of the four boys from the
Speaker 2: photo that Rob Ryer took, and Kyle points out that
Speaker 2: you know this is lying, right, and this says sometimes
Speaker 2: lying is okay, like when you know what's better for
Speaker 2: the person more than they do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, which is that's something that Parker and side
Speaker 4: to really pushing against, like I know better than you. Yeah,
Speaker 4: maybe you do.
Speaker 2: But they don't actually show Rob Ryiner in a positive
Speaker 2: way in any aspect of this episode. Normally they show
Speaker 2: some sort of oh yeah, look, okay, he might be
Speaker 2: okay there, but look, he's the worst. This is just bad, bad,
Speaker 2: bad bad. But Colorado revealed that they still won't ban
Speaker 2: cigarettes because they can't prove that secondhand smoke kills people.
Speaker 2: They're still improven today. You can't say the second hand
Speaker 2: smoke doesn't make you sick. He fucking does. Oh I'm
Speaker 2: pretty sure it's not. Well, it's not good for you.
Speaker 2: It's not gonna be the reason you died. But if
Speaker 2: you're a kid that's living around your parents chain smoking
Speaker 2: in the house, it can't be can't be for you, No, no, no,
Speaker 2: But that's what they're saying here. They won't ban it
Speaker 2: because they can't prove that yet.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but at the same time, you're gonna have a
Speaker 4: if you're a company or an industry that's got a
Speaker 4: ship ton of money, like big tobacco, you know, then
Speaker 4: you can parmer. Yeah, then you can find scientists will
Speaker 4: say no, there's no conclusive proof on YouTube.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but you'll be able.
Speaker 4: To find scientists who seem legit. It's like, oh, well
Speaker 4: they actually work at this lab or they're a graduate
Speaker 4: of this school or whatever. It's like, wow, they why
Speaker 4: would they lie ching?
Speaker 2: But yeah. So basically they're saying here they're gonna be
Speaker 2: manipulating the photos to do so, but they're still not
Speaker 2: going to band it because they can't prove it, so
Speaker 2: they're gonna make a commercial instead.
Speaker 3: So, gentlemen, looks like only one of us get to
Speaker 3: be in the commercial. Huh, who will it be? Gentlemen,
Speaker 3: the game is owned. Go ahead, We don't want to
Speaker 3: be in their stuper commercial.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 3: Oh, I get a cow. That's your serbian jew double bluff.
Speaker 3: Make me think you don't care about being in the commercial,
Speaker 3: so that maybe I won't either. Oops, didn't work, didn't care. No,
Speaker 3: we really want nothing more to do with these people.
Speaker 3: Sure you don't cow, and neither do I. I know
Speaker 3: what you're gonna say next. You're gonna say, how about
Speaker 3: none of the show tomorrow to do it? And then
Speaker 3: I'm supposed to agree so that tomorrow you can once
Speaker 3: in Ah by yourself and do the commercial that serbian
Speaker 3: ju double bluff, and it ain't gonna work on me.
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Speaker 2: finger discount. So it's now in the middle of the
Speaker 2: night and Cartman thinks he's nailing Kyle into his room
Speaker 2: and watching his going don't the door open from the
Speaker 2: other way, But he's already out of his room. He
Speaker 2: hasn't gone in there yet, explains to Cartman at the
Speaker 2: smoke stoppers and the manipulators, who will they will just
Speaker 2: use him to get what they want. Then he opens
Speaker 2: up the door and just enters, and then Cartman just
Speaker 2: keeps hammering the wood onto the door frame. Now it's
Speaker 2: time for the commercial, and Rob Ryan tells Cartman to
Speaker 2: read the words and the teleprompter, and he says he's
Speaker 2: got terminal cancer due to secondhand smoke. When you see this,
Speaker 2: I'll be dead, yes, not realizing that they mean it legitimately.
Speaker 3: You know, some people say there's no proof that secondhand
Speaker 3: smoke cures. The tobacco companies say there's no proof that
Speaker 3: secondhand smoke cures. I've just been diagnosed with terminal youngcans.
Speaker 3: I guess I'm the proof. The next time you want
Speaker 3: to believe that secondhand smoke doesn't kill, think about me,
Speaker 3: because by the time you see this commercial, I'll be dead.
Speaker 2: Dead.
Speaker 1: That part right, we got it wrap out before that
Speaker 1: was fantastic.
Speaker 3: What what does that mean?
Speaker 4: I'll be dead?
Speaker 1: Hey?
Speaker 2: What was that dead part? That was very good? Eric,
Speaker 2: here eat this cupcake.
Speaker 3: And no thanks, I'm not hungry, but you all just eat.
Speaker 2: This one cupcake. It has sprinkles.
Speaker 3: I'm not eating the cupcake.
Speaker 2: H Do you know what a hero is.
Speaker 1: Our hero is somebody who sacrifices himself for the good
Speaker 1: of others. You can be a hero, Eric, All you
Speaker 1: have to do is eat the cook cake.
Speaker 2: Jesus right. The fact that the show's biggest monster is
Speaker 2: able to appear as the victim goes to show where
Speaker 2: they want you to think about what they want to
Speaker 2: think about. Rob Ryiner coming and arrives at the boy's
Speaker 2: house as they're playing cards because they're all baout. They're like,
Speaker 2: we're not We're out of this now. They're playing cards
Speaker 2: and time they get away from them because he's coming
Speaker 2: for them. Don't get coming for him too. He's coming
Speaker 2: for him, not for them. But they call Randy and
Speaker 2: but Randy's being convinced by rob Ryan, who says, no,
Speaker 2: they won't be trying to harm him, and the boys say,
Speaker 2: they only want you to get away from us. I
Speaker 2: thought we were friends. Maybe I was wrong. Yep, totally wrong. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And Kyle says, look, dude, this is all formula. We
Speaker 2: should this will be granded for three weeks and it'll
Speaker 2: be fine, or we can do the usual and it'll
Speaker 2: cut to you know, the usual part where the everyone
Speaker 2: is outside with in the town with pitchforks with Rob
Speaker 2: Ryaner or whatnot, and blah blah blah. They we're going
Speaker 2: to be persisting with this. We're not going to be
Speaker 2: getting granted for three weeks. This is where Ryaner, he
Speaker 2: admits to the town, they're actually going to kill coming,
Speaker 2: but for the good of the town. It's for the
Speaker 2: good of the it's good for the good of the nation.
Speaker 2: They went, wait a minute, Wait a minute, you go
Speaker 2: to actually kill him. He's like, do I need to
Speaker 2: explain this again? And Kyle comes with his I've learned
Speaker 2: something today, turns the stand, see told you, and he
Speaker 2: says that this is about fascism and causes says because
Speaker 2: Rhiner is using his money to push his agenda against smoking,
Speaker 2: when actually it was their fault for not making their
Speaker 2: own decision themselves and allowing him to push to push
Speaker 2: him in that direction. Everyone then decides to let everyone
Speaker 2: else you know, you make your decision. It's it's it's
Speaker 2: our choice, not not not Rob Ryaners. Garrison tells mister
Speaker 2: Rob Ryan too, but and Cartman stabs him with a fork,
Speaker 2: doesn't idolize him anymore, and all the goo oozes out
Speaker 2: precious goo. And since the truth is out there, they
Speaker 2: get granted anyway, So we get the cliche ending and
Speaker 2: we get granded. So I guess we learn our lesson.
Speaker 2: We know we didn't do it. No, we did it,
Speaker 2: and that's the end ab out. It's yeah, so an
Speaker 2: interesting episode. It's different in the way they usually handle
Speaker 2: these ones, where they are very It's almost like that
Speaker 2: they had they had it in for Rob Reiner, they
Speaker 2: wanted to go for him, really target it. Well, I
Speaker 2: don't don't, I don't know, have not Rob Ryaner.
Speaker 4: Then certainly what Rob Ryaner is standing for. Yeah, because
Speaker 4: as he said, I mean they respect the guy. I
Speaker 4: guess as an artist may not some such as an activist.
Speaker 4: The messages he's pushing runs counter to There is a
Speaker 4: personal responsibility. And something I've written here is that personal
Speaker 4: responsibility is all well and good, but I mean corporate responsibility,
Speaker 4: especially businesses that have a lot of clout and money
Speaker 4: and resources to sway or even shape public opinion and
Speaker 4: public thinking. Yeah, they also have a great deal of
Speaker 4: responsibility as well. It's also very important for those guys
Speaker 4: to quote unquote do the right thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So what do you think their endgame was for
Speaker 2: this episode? Was it to discussing. Do you think it's
Speaker 2: pro choice?
Speaker 4: I think it's pro personal responsibility? Yeah, and which is
Speaker 4: I guess pro choice as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The thing is though, by allowing it to do this,
Speaker 2: because he was saying, if more people to smoke in
Speaker 2: my bar, that should I should be able to have
Speaker 2: a bar that smokes. He also met this is in
Speaker 2: the commentarium. You could have You could have a world
Speaker 2: where smoking in bars was allowed. I mean I can't
Speaker 2: understand as someone who doesn't smoke, I can't see why
Speaker 2: they can't be bars where it is said you can
Speaker 2: smoke in. But I think if those bars exist, it
Speaker 2: needs to be no kids in there. Oh yeah, absolutely
Speaker 2: adults only bar. If you want to smoke in here,
Speaker 2: then that's fine. I think banning cigarette it's hard though,
Speaker 2: because you can't just ban it for something, not for others.
Speaker 2: It's either you just ban it or you don't. Don't
Speaker 2: you reckon? I think so, same like dunk control, just
Speaker 2: like or automatic rifles gone like you just you just
Speaker 2: have to do it.
Speaker 4: It's certainly easier if you if you make it a
Speaker 4: blanket band across the board, isn't it?
Speaker 2: And I think because of that, if you have bars
Speaker 2: where smoking exists, if you're a kid, you go, oh,
Speaker 2: I can't wait till I can finally go in there,
Speaker 2: right and I can finally smoke and whatnot? Just taking
Speaker 2: I would say that smoking now it feels uncool. I know.
Speaker 2: You always go it's fucking cool when you're smoke. You
Speaker 2: grow up an ear where like it's not now. I
Speaker 2: think now, have you watched on smoke, it's the oh no.
Speaker 2: If you see anyone smoking, out's kind of like, what's
Speaker 2: wrong with your dude? Alliot sees people smoking, he goes,
Speaker 2: why do they smoke? It's bad for you? Goings, they
Speaker 2: let to smoke if they want to mate, and he goes, yeah,
Speaker 2: but why do they? Why do they choose that? I'm
Speaker 2: like they were informed like you were when you were younger.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: They made the choice, and it's hard to stop. Once
Speaker 2: you start, it's hard to stop. Yeah, yeah, that's very
Speaker 2: much the case. Do you think it was a good
Speaker 2: episode of South Bike?
Speaker 4: I enjoyed it, got a few laughs out of it.
Speaker 2: Absolutely but also, yeah, it gives you how long we've
Speaker 2: been talking.
Speaker 4: We've been talking a while, between an hour and a half.
Speaker 4: It's a good long talk.
Speaker 2: There's plenty of meat on the bone here. We should
Speaker 2: also give Rob Reiner his his qudos by the way,
Speaker 2: before this episode wraps up, because I feel like we'd
Speaker 2: we touched on it, but like he did, so this
Speaker 2: name some of his films, Spinal Tap, stand by Me, right,
Speaker 2: stand by Me, Misery, a few good Men. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I feel the men. Yeah he directed that. What a
Speaker 2: fucking catalo.
Speaker 4: Yeah, when Harry met Sally the American President. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 4: which is sort of like the antecedent to the West Wing.
Speaker 4: A lot of good stuff. But then there's a lot
Speaker 4: of stuff in there. This is also extremely forgettable.
Speaker 2: It's the thing if you if you were younger right
Speaker 2: when this movie came out, I say you're twelve thirty,
Speaker 2: when you watch this episode, you probably didn't really know
Speaker 2: much about Rob Ryiner. So your idea of this guy
Speaker 2: is just against cigarettes. Like, no, look, he was fucking
Speaker 2: he did a lot of good stuff. Look, first of all,
Speaker 2: he's the son of a guy named Carl Reiner, who
Speaker 2: was like absolute comedy legend one of the members of
Speaker 2: Oceans eleven. But Princess Brian another one. Oh, we direct
Speaker 2: the Princess Bride of course. All the family he did,
Speaker 2: all the family.
Speaker 4: He started in all of the family. Oh, because he
Speaker 4: was an actor before he became a director. Oh really,
Speaker 4: I did not know that.
Speaker 2: The buckle List. I didn't mind the buckle List.
Speaker 4: It's probably one of his better late ones. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 4: there you go. Yeah, run good Man and I'm still acting.
Speaker 4: And I think I mentioned earlier was in the Wolf
Speaker 4: of Wall Street and he's very very funny.
Speaker 2: Ivan Rightman? What do I Wrightman direct Ghostbusters? Also directed
Speaker 2: Twins air Bud What? I don't think he directed? Would
Speaker 2: have produced it? Iver produced it?
Speaker 4: Was it the feeling? I haven't Rightman put his name
Speaker 4: on a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2: Because did he direct? He directed Space dam right. No,
Speaker 2: that's directed by guys Joe Pitker. Yes, no, but he
Speaker 2: must have produced it. I think so, Ivan Rightman. Air
Speaker 2: by the te of look, let's say telling us, did
Speaker 2: not have direct air Bud his best name for directing
Speaker 2: from the Ghost Buses, Animal House the Airbud Fanships were
Speaker 2: directed by other filmmakers, but did ever produce some of
Speaker 2: the air.
Speaker 4: See, you can't trust Ai Ivan Rightman did not direct
Speaker 4: Animal House. That was John Landers. He produced Animals.
Speaker 2: See, this is the thing. My brains are so used
Speaker 2: to reading the top bit now. I was like, that's wrong, though,
Speaker 2: don't do it. Yeah, I've read it as fact that
Speaker 2: even though I knew it was wrong.
Speaker 4: A lot of people are doing this. When they're typing
Speaker 4: stuff into Google, they will put Reddit at the end.
Speaker 1: Ah.
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, so at least you know you're dealing with
Speaker 4: a human, admittedly a strange and twisted human who's on Reddit.
Speaker 2: That still, he says here. Best known for his any
Speaker 2: comedy movies, Animal House and Ghostbusters. He produced Animal has
Speaker 2: he did not. Turns out you're wrong. I will wait.
Speaker 4: My next month's salary from four figure discount Industries. That
Speaker 4: John Landis directed the Animal House, National Lampoon's Animal House.
Speaker 2: That's how I look, shall we I've rub a director
Speaker 2: of Animal House. It they did Meatball Stripes, Ghostbusters, Twins,
Speaker 2: Ghostbusters to Kindgut and Cop Dave Jr's National Lampoon's Animal House.
Speaker 2: He was a producer. Yeah, heavy Metal, base Jam and
Speaker 2: Private Parts. Private Parts sort of revisit that movie. I'd
Speaker 2: wid that movie when I was a teenager.
Speaker 4: I remember thinking the s ain't bad at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would, right, And just is a guy that
Speaker 2: he's like, this is going to make money. I'll attach
Speaker 2: my name to it, but I'm not going to direct it.
Speaker 2: Oh sure Spilber did that as well. Absolutely was he
Speaker 2: Gremlins spille Presents.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Steven Spielberg, So so that means that he he
Speaker 4: gave money to I imagine he used his clout. He
Speaker 4: probably had a production deal with various companies. But also
Speaker 4: I was like, look, Roberts and Megas and Bob gal
Speaker 4: they've written this movie or back to the Future.
Speaker 2: You should let him do it. It's pretty good, you know.
Speaker 2: I'll put my name on it and people, Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: if it doesn't work, it's on me kind of things, right, oh,
Speaker 2: sort of it.
Speaker 4: But my name will get people through the door, because
Speaker 4: like what the guy who made e T and Raids
Speaker 4: the Lost arg has got his name on this.
Speaker 2: Well that's something I trust because if you put Steven
Speaker 2: Spielberg Presents the top of Gremlin's post, it you going
Speaker 2: to watch it. Sure did not produce anything I would direct.
Speaker 2: I imagine he's done a bit of production as well.
Speaker 2: Just let you guys know he's not just a guy
Speaker 2: full of ooze.
Speaker 4: He's made a ship town of good movies and acted
Speaker 4: in some two.
Speaker 2: Yes. Now, the next episode of south Park we shall
Speaker 2: be reviewing is Raisins.
Speaker 4: All right, so I don't know a thing.
Speaker 2: Look forward to that in your feeds in the next
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Speaker 2: But before we do that, mister Davis, raisins, your thoughts
Speaker 2: on raisins as a foodstorf the food stuff.
Speaker 4: Every once in a while on bee of a mind,
Speaker 4: it's like, you know, we would go down really nice
Speaker 4: as a handful of raisins. The texture, taste, little sugar
Speaker 4: fir not every day, not even every week.
Speaker 2: I can't. I can't barely pack it of them. It's
Speaker 2: just too much.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you get a little boxes, Yeah, those little
Speaker 4: boxes you used to get that was perfect. Yeah, And
Speaker 4: sometimes you know you get that in your lunch box
Speaker 4: when you go to school. It's like raisins anyway, what
Speaker 4: about a cookie?
Speaker 2: But it's like, you know what it's actually there's gonna
Speaker 2: hit the spot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and sometimes it did. Yeah, yeah, so raisin it's
Speaker 4: not bad. The Raisin South Park episode I don't know,
Speaker 4: let's find out next week.
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Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts, Spotify review do find this show. But for now,
Speaker 2: mister Davis, any final words for those incredible listeners out there.
Speaker 2: I guess this podcast was the proof