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Speaker 3: Welcome in double D, Darnell Dixon, the Daily Heraldi and

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Speaker 1: Well happy, Uh what is it? I guess we're almost

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into the Christmas spirit.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, happy holidays, Sure, happy holidays, Happy Christmas. It's

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a it's a great day. You know.

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Speaker 3: We got to be grateful, grateful for for you, Darnell,

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Grateful for the holiday season.

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Speaker 2: Uh, Darnell. Uh. Let's let's get right into it here.

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Speaker 3: The news coming out of Salt Lake City, Uh, probably

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not a surprise to to most, but I felt like

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there was maybe a wrestling that maybe occurred, uh to

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a certain degree. Like obviously, Kyle Whittingham not officially retiring,

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he's stepping down, Morgan Scolly taking over as the head

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coach for the University of Utah. He's keeping options open.

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Where do you think Kyle Whittingham ends up and why?

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Speaker 1: Well, he seems like a lifer as far as it

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is for the Utah football program. He's had a terrific career.

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He's taken Utah to places they've never been, heights they've

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never reached. And as you've mentioned on the show and

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I am in this camp as well, much of that

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reputation has been built on the domination he had over

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the YU for you know, ninth straight. Is it time

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for him to step down, that's up to him, and

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to come back another year and try to get that

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last win against BYU, he's certainly welcome to do that.

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But it does appear that this is it for him

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as head coach at Utah. I don't know what he's

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interested in. I mean, if I close to that program,

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jet ski and right off into the sunset. But you know,

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he doesn't seem like an administrative type to me, like

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someone that would be an ad or special consultant. It

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would seemed to me he's the kind of guy that

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would just say, you know what, finished, and now I'm

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gonna check out my grandkids and go on the lake

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and have some fun. So we'll see. But certainly a

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former Cougar who made himself into a very very good

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college football coach.

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Speaker 2: No doubt about it.

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Speaker 3: You know, is it the right thing for the university

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to say, you know, Kyle, we need you to step down.

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It's Morgan Scalley's turned You're a legacy, You're a legendary coach.

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Speaker 2: You just like who like. Utah is a top fifteen

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football team this year.

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Speaker 3: They're three points away from beating their rival on the road,

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and they lost to the number four team in the country,

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Texas Tech at home, and they gave it a good

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effort through three quarters. This is a very very very

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good football team led by a very very very good

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football coach. He probably you know. I mean, look, he's

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got more juice, he's got more gas in the take.

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Was this the right thing for the university to do?

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All things considered a legendary coach, Well, like I said.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that he had a lot of input

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into whether it was time or not. And as we

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get along in some of these coaches who've been around

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a while and they start to look ahead and see

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private equity. They've gone through the NIL and the transfer

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portal and all of these things that are changing the

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way they have to do their job. And older guys,

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older coaches, I think a lot of them look at

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it and think this is not what I signed up for,

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and it's time to do something else or let somebody

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else do it. And that might be where Kyle is.

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I mean, he's definitely been grumpy the last couple of years.

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maybe he just doesn't want to do it the way

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that is required now in terms of every year having

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to try to retain everybody that may get a better

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offer somewhere else, and that's difficult as a coach to

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build those those programs you want, and you know, I

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think it's difficult for college basketball coaches. There's you know,

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one hundred guys you got on the football team you

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have to worry about. So that could be part of

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Speaker 3: Donald Dixon double D the Daily Heraldi and here on

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your Utah ESPN Radio Network, a part of a Cougar

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American Fork double d. This this BYU football team getting

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prep getting ready for the Pop Tarts Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Very excited about it. Top twenty five teams, Georgia Tech.

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Speaker 3: They have an opportunity to cement themselves this team as

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one of the best teams in BA football history if

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they win.

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Speaker 2: You know where would you rank this this team?

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Speaker 3: They're probably top twelve, top eleven, maybe top ten in

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the College Football Playoff Final poll at AP pole.

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Speaker 2: You know what type of special season do you think

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this is?

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Speaker 1: I do think that until they change the way that

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the process works, you really need to have a good

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ranking to start the season. And we thought this BYU

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team this year would be maybe top fifteen until Jake

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Kretzlov left and they weren't a top twenty five teen

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or twenty six in the opening poll. But to be

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in the top twenty year, in the top fifteen gives

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you a leg up if you have a great season,

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Bowl game, they would deserve to be at least top fifteen,

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maybe higher with what they've got coming back. We don't know.

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I mean, that's AP voters, and they're kind of thick.

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you don't know how that's going to turn out. But

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it is a frustrating thing I think for BYU fans

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and for the program itself to be winning the games

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that you think you need to win and putting yourself

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in a good position and a committee decides no, you're

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not good enough. The only way to take it out

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of their hands is to win every game, And then

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BYU fans and coach to the Brighton will probably do

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something else to us, like give us a bad seed,

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or you know, there's always this complex of being picked

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on and taking advantage of. But I think by you,

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over the course of the past two years, like twenty

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two and four, they get shown that they're a good

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program and need to be reckoned with and a good

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start to that next season would be to win the

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bowl game and to be a top end to fifteen

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ranking to start the season.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's a special season, no doubt. And I think

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there's two things that will impact Kugarnation how they view this.

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Georgia Tech in the Popdars Bowl. And then the secondary

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think is where Texas Tech ends up. Where do you

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think that had What do you think happens with Texas Tech?

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Do you think they take the Natty double D.

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Speaker 1: I think their defense allows them to be in every

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single game they're going to play in the tournament and

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could get them to a position to win it. They're

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good enough. I don't think that BA has played a

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defense that good in a long time. And I think

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Aaron Rodgerick admitted that this week that that might be

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the best defense he's ever coached against. That puts you

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in a good position against anybody, and I think it's

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why and open enough where you know Indiana is the

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top team in the country. That's crazy, but it's what's

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happening this year, and I think Texas Tech can beat

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if Texas Tech can can advance in the playoffs and

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and even win a championship. It also shows what you

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can do when you take care of your nil and

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get the right guys and pay the right amounts to

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get that defense in there. That's what they did. And

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I don't say that you facetiously. I fit in with

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the respect because just because you have the money doesn't

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mean you make the right decisions with everybody that you

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went out and got, and Texas Tech made a lot

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of really good decisions and brought in some really good

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players that have turned out to make that defense so good.

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Speaker 3: Double D Jay Hill was asked whether or not he

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wants to be a head coach someday, and he said sure,

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but then he kind of went back and forth. He

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likes where he's at, he loves where he's at. He

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had to be the right spot, the right time, the

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right place for him and his family.

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Speaker 2: What was your eval of that? Read between the lines?

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What does he really saying? What do you make of it?

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Speaker 1: The thing that I'm ready was between the lines was

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that he was a little taken by surprise with the

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I think that it's something he considers, but he really

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enjoys what he's doing right now, and I have to be,

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as he said, the right situation for him and his family.

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he's doing, and you're going to get those offers. So

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it's something that he needs to consider, and it's something

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he will consider, and it's definitely a compliment to the

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program that there is interest in someone like Jay Hill

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to be a head coach. He's already been a head

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coach at the lower level, but what he's doing with

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this defense to help put BYU in this position is

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something that is drawing attention and he needs He will

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consider it. But I do think that that particular question,

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he didn't really exactly know how he wanted to answer it,

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so he sort of kind of did both and answered

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it both ways.

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Speaker 2: So what do you think he was really saying? Then

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read between lines double d What he.

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Speaker 1: Was really saying was, yes, I'd love to be a

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head coach, but now's not the time to talk about it.

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Speaker 2: You're right, You're probably right. Where do you think he

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would end up? Like?

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Speaker 3: What's the idealic location head coaching wise, culture wise?

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: You know Jay, You've been covering him now for a

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long time. You see him at Utah Utah man am I.

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Then he goes to Weaver State, he comes to BYU.

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What's the idealic look. I think he turned down the

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Utah State job last year. Bronco Maendaal end up getting it,

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so you know he turned that down. Well, what do

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you what do you think? What's the idealic location for

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Speaker 1: A really good question. I hesitate to think that coaches

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who have been out in this area in the Mountain

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a little bit southwest, like you know, Texas, some of

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those areas, I don't think they want to go east.

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I think there's just not as much of a fit

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with any programs out there if he were to go,

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I don't know for a State or you know, Carolina State,

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some of those schools out there. I think anything in

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Texas or West would be a place where he would

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probably feel comfortable recruiting and finding coaches and feeling comfortable

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with his family. I don't think a complete relocation unless

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it's for you know, seeing amount of money and guarantees

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in the East would be where you want to go. So,

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you know, like I said, anything in Texas would be good.

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You know, any of the Arizona schools. Maybe I don't know.

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I mean, it's it's a new era. And again it

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has to be the right place and the right fit

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for Heat and his family. And you know, we were

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ben you and I are familiar with BYU coaches who

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were lifers. Even the assistants didn't go anywhere. They stayed

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in Provo for their whole career. And that's that's kind

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of not what I expect to happen in the future,

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especially if the YU keeps winning. It just seems like

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there's going to be more coaches that would be getting

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offers to leave. So far, we haven't lost really anybody

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that can think of significantly, but it could happen.

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Speaker 3: Crazy times in Cougar Country could be occurring in the future.

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Look BYU is in a good spot. Eleven and two,

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eleven and two. Chance to go twelve and two this season,

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it'd be glorious. They just signed the top a top

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twenty one class in college football. It's the best recruiting

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class in BAU football history. It doesn't seem like there's

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going to be any coaching staff attrition. We've only seen

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two enter the portal from the offensive side. They're both

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wide receivers le Mason Waller and and and Dom McKenzie.

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Speaker 2: That is a loss. Both those guys are very talented.

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They had people offers. What's the state of the program?

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Double D? Is this the new glory day?

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Speaker 3: You grew up in the eighties, you and g Man

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it was a glorious time to be a Cougar fan?

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Speaker 2: Is this the new glory? Is the modern day glory

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days for Cougar football? It really is?

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Speaker 1: And And because BYU decided to, uh, you know, restructure

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the contract for Klannie and he got his assistance raises

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as well, and some of some of the staff members

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you mentioned the recruiting class, they're definitely on a trajectory

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that puts them among the elite. And you know, you

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and I had this conversation last week you were asking

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about a question of the day, something about you know,

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what could maybe derail what by was trying to do,

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And I said that college sports may go somewhere that

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BYU doesn't want to go, and that might be private equity.

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I don't know. I mean we at this point by

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US as an a really good trajectory and momentum, but

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the future is unknown and we look around and see

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the discussion. You know, a Notre Dame thinking maybe it

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wants to join a conference, but who in they have

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would want them in their conference. You know that that

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kind of ego and that kind of a mess would

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just not be a lot of fun for current members

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of any conference. You know, we're seeing conferences with eighteen

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was the ACC had like eighteen members and they had

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five teams tie for second. I mean, it's just a mess.

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And things changed in the playoff system, so you know,

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it's it's difficult to reject ahead too far. But as

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you finish up twenty twenty five and head to twenty

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twenty six, this is a program that is putting itself

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in a great position to be competitive every single year.

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Speaker 3: Double D talking about the glory days now the modern

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days of glory here in the b YU Cougar football world.

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The signing class something that we haven't talked about with you.

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I know you're not one for for recruiting necessarily, but

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look what a great signing class and a lot of

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in state recruits you keep you keep tabs on the

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Utah prep scene. Is this the turning of the tide

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when you're seeing BYU win in state for the majority

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of these high level recruits.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a very positive sign. And I

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have seen quite a few of these guys play. You know,

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kawi Akana, Lapetti Mwala, He's he's our Valley Player of

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the Year from RMI. He's just a great defensive player

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that's headed to b YU, Bought Mulutalo. There. There's a

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lot of really good players in Utah and and they

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just impact the game. And that's kind of what I

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watch when I watch high school football especially, you know,

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you hear about certain players are really good. I want

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to see how they impact the outcome of the game.

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How they do that on sides of the ball or

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one side of the ball, or you know they are

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they out there every single play or are they taking

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plays off? I mean they're it's easy to see at

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the high school level, and there's a lot of really

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good players that BYU has brought in, And of course

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they're extending beyond the Utah and bringing in great players

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from other parts of the country as well. So it's

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a really terrific recruiting class, and I think that they're

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close to being a top twenty class is pretty amazing

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when you consider when Bronco was here. I remember we

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were talking about most of the Regreen Glasses were in

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the eighties or nineties. It seems like they really made

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that work for them. And part of that is the money.

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I mean, obviously, when you can pay athletes in this

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day and age, it works well for you. But it's

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also the culture. It's also the kind of experience they're promising.

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It's what they're telling the parents and families, We're going

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to take care of your boy. We're going to make

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sure he knows how to live is life and what

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he's going to do after football, and those things resonate

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with the parents and families and even the kids nowadays.

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They understand this is really important for me, not only

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to play football, but to do whatever it is I

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want to do. For the rest of my life. So

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all those things together have created a program that people

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want to be part of.

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Speaker 3: It's a special time, no doubt about a double d

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What what are you going to be writing about? What

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can we see at the Daily Herald, the Daily Heraldi

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and Penning pieces, you know.

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Speaker 2: I love them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're as I mentioned, we're during our all valley

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for we did for soccer and girls volleyball and football

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is going in tomorrow's paper. That's a that's a beast

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of a of a of a bunch of work. And

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then you know it's basketball season and this BYU men's

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basketball team is really something else and putting them in

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some uh spotlight kind of positions. I mean, what be

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what you accomplished at Mattson Square Garden with a last

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second victory against Clemson on Tuesday. It's just insane. I mean,

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you see the reaction of people in the stands, You

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see reaction to people online that aren't necessarily affiliated with

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b YU but recognize game. I mean, these three guys,

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AJ and Richie and Rob Wright, they are legit NBA

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players and not only that, but they are great college

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players that are going to possibly lead this program. Beyond,

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but it's ever where it's ever been. So it's really

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fun to follow this team and to see what Kevin

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Young and his staff have cooked up this year because

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it's really a completely different kind of team in terms

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of how they attack and how they play defense. And

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it's just amazing to me that b YU was able

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to go out and get a Kevin Young that I

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think is one of the smartest coaches I've ever seen

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at any level, especially in the college level. He's doing

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terrific job he and his staff and making this a

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national contender out of Provo.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy Double d Donell Dixon talking BYU Sports, last thing,

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is BYU a football school or a basketball school?

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Speaker 2: Ah?

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Speaker 1: Man? I mean like directly right now or over the door.

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I have to take into account the entirety of BYU

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Sports or can I is it just today? Like right now?

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Speaker 2: What's your feeling on it? Right?

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Speaker 3: Like? It's so funny, right, what's the feeling on it

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right now? Because you have an ad who is over

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basketball now he's over football. You just had a contract extension.

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This is a great deal, right that you know? This extension?

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What's the the word they've used, like unprecedented U presitented

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deal in uh in provo.

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Speaker 2: Right, it's never been done. We don't know the details,

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but it's never happened before ever.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: But in BLAU football eleven and two, eleven and two.

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Speaker 3: Last two seasons, BAU basketball has a sweet sixteen run

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and a lot of nil, a lot of nil resources.

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Speaker 2: Billions of dollars. You know, you could say millions is

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do you get a sense?

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Speaker 3: Brian Santiago said football drives the ship, but some may

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not believe him.

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Speaker 2: What do you make of it?

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Speaker 3: Read between the lines football school or football or basketball school?

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Speaker 2: Double D.

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Speaker 1: I think I'd still lean towards it being a football

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school for a number of reasons. One is you have

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the entire summer where nothing's going on, in the anticipation

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for twelve games of college football or thirteen when you

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talk about the bowl game, it just drives people insane.

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And there's you know, they put sixty thousand people in

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the stands every home game. I just think football it's

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more a little bit more of a football school. But

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Kevin Young and BYU basketball are making a hard push

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it at creating some competition with that as well. And

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when you're talking about Glanie's salary and what just happened

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this last week. I can't help but think about Lavelle

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Edwards making barely six figures and working on a year

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to year deal where he just walk into the office

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and go I think I want to coach again, and

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they're like, okay, same contract as last year. Okay, got it.

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They moved on. Certainly that's not the case anymore. But

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I would lean towards football as Brian Santiago Mans is

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still driving the ship.

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Speaker 2: Okay, there you go. Double D has declared it. It

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is truth.

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Speaker 3: It is Naked's doctrine, it is BYU sports athletic doctrine.

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Speaker 2: Whatever.

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Speaker 3: Darnell speaketh into the mic, Double ed, I always love

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talking ball with you. Always great conversation. Appreciate you, buddy.

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Thanks ropping off for a cougar beat.

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Speaker 1: All right, you guys have a great Friday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, YouTube man, have a great weekend as well. That

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