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<v Speaker 1>We've got some exclusive news here at Katie Fang, a

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<v Speaker 1>news channel about my lawsuit against Todd Blanch, the Attorney

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<v Speaker 1>General of the United States, over the Epstein Files. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to go through two filings that were just done

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<v Speaker 1>late yesterday, and they kind of go together, but one

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<v Speaker 1>is thirty eight pages and.

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<v Speaker 2>One is four.

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<v Speaker 1>Now your recall when we went to the status hearing

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<v Speaker 1>last week Thursday, Judge Emmett Sullivan ordered us to submit

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<v Speaker 1>proposed orders that addressed.

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<v Speaker 2>Two specific issues.

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<v Speaker 1>One the handwritten FBI interview notes of a woman who

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<v Speaker 1>alleges that when she was thirteen years old, she was

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<v Speaker 1>sexually abused and physically battered by convicted fellon Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>Two the proposed language that would be used in a

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<v Speaker 1>sworn declaration to be signed by Todd Blanche concerning the

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<v Speaker 1>redaction log that we argue is required to be produced

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<v Speaker 1>and published pursue it to the Epstein Files Transparency Act.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're going to break that up right now. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to walk through what we've submitted to the court

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<v Speaker 1>before we do so, I want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Note the following.

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<v Speaker 1>What was an incredible outcome from that two hour status

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<v Speaker 1>hearing last week is the judge didn't ask for what

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<v Speaker 1>we call competing orders. A lot of times a judge

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<v Speaker 1>will say, plaintiff, you submit an order, Defendant, you submit

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<v Speaker 1>an order. They will be competing orders. And then the

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<v Speaker 1>judge decides, maybe I like this, maybe I like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe puts together his own kind of Frankenstein of

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<v Speaker 1>an order, if I may. In this instance, the judge

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to get anything from the Department of Justice

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<v Speaker 1>slash Todd Lanche. He asked us, in my amazing legal

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<v Speaker 1>team at Public Integrity Project, you know, I always want

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<v Speaker 1>to give them credit because it is absolutely earned. And

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<v Speaker 1>do Brendan Blow and Emily Gilman were in court with

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<v Speaker 1>me and sam Ward Packard, who wasn't there but is

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<v Speaker 1>also an amazing part of the legal team.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they have been doing great work.

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<v Speaker 1>And so Judge Sullivan said, Miss Fang, your team submits

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<v Speaker 1>these proposed orders, so let's.

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<v Speaker 2>Walk through them now.

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<v Speaker 1>So the four page document which appears on the docket

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<v Speaker 1>is a proposed order, and so that's why you'll see

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<v Speaker 1>the word proposed in front of the order. And as

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<v Speaker 1>it is in federal court, you send this in and

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<v Speaker 1>then the judge can either adopt it wholesale and agree

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<v Speaker 1>with everything and sign it. Or the judge can make

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<v Speaker 1>little slashes even like handwritten annotations no pun intended. Or

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<v Speaker 1>he can draft his own and make some material changes.

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<v Speaker 1>But either way, this is what the proposed order says.

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<v Speaker 1>Todd Blanche shall, as in no choice, submit to the

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<v Speaker 1>Court by no later than three pm Eastern on August

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fifth, twenty twenty six. So for folks who don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a calendar in front of you, that's next week Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>You're hearing this on Friday, August twenty first. Next week

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<v Speaker 1>Tuesday is the twenty fifth. So Todd Blanche shall submit

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<v Speaker 1>to the court by no later than three pm Eastern

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<v Speaker 1>on August twenty fifth, twenty twenty six. The underlying FBI

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<v Speaker 1>interview notes that formed the basis for the FD three

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<v Speaker 1>oh two interview reports bearing the following bait stamps numbers,

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<v Speaker 1>and it lists those four to three O twos. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>the three twos are the official reports that are generated

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<v Speaker 1>by the FBI, and what are they predicated upon the

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<v Speaker 1>handwritten interview notes that are done by an agent or

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<v Speaker 1>agent's plural when they are conducting these interviews. What I

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<v Speaker 1>have sought by way of my preliminary injunction, and what

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Sullivan granted that I was allowed to receive are

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<v Speaker 1>the unredacted interview notes were adacted only to PreTect victim confidentiality.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do I say that, Well, the Epstein Files Transparency Act,

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<v Speaker 1>as Judge Sullivan noted as well, does not have an

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<v Speaker 1>exception for other redactions that the DOJ has attempted to

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<v Speaker 1>do in this instance. So Blanche shall produce no later

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<v Speaker 1>than three pm on August twenty fifth, twenty twenty six,

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<v Speaker 1>the underlying handwritten FBI interview notes for the four to

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<v Speaker 1>three to oh two's that were generated as a result

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<v Speaker 1>of them interviewing this woman who claims when she was

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen years old she was sexually assaulted and physically battered

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<v Speaker 1>by convicted fallon Donald Trump. Now let's take a detour

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<v Speaker 1>to the other filing that we did yesterday late. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the thirty eight page filing. And you may say,

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<v Speaker 1>holy crap, Katie, why is it so big? Well, the

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<v Speaker 1>notice to the Court as it is entitled itself, is

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<v Speaker 1>only two pages that I have attached exhibits, and those

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<v Speaker 1>are the important thing. We obtained the full transcript from

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<v Speaker 1>that hearing. It is a doozy it's worth reading, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking for it right now to show it to you.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, the transcipt was important because we wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that we were accurate about what Udge Sullivan said,

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<v Speaker 1>how he ruled, and what he asked us to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And in the course of that two hour status hearing,

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<v Speaker 1>there was an inquiry that was made by Judge Sullivan

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<v Speaker 1>to the DOJ lawyer who appeared that day, this Andrew

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<v Speaker 1>block Guy. And it's a thirty eight page hearing transcript,

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<v Speaker 1>and on page five, the judge starts with I want

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<v Speaker 1>to focus on the FBI interview.

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<v Speaker 2>Notes at this time, okay, And this is important, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I said.

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<v Speaker 1>It has to do with what the order is that

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<v Speaker 1>we just sent into Judge Sullivan that we proposed the

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Sullivan sign. Judge Sullivan then goes into the procedural

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<v Speaker 1>history of how he granted the preliminary injunction ordered Blanche

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<v Speaker 1>to produce the underlying FBI notes, and in response, Blanche

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<v Speaker 1>said he didn't produce the notes for two reasons. One

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<v Speaker 1>they's substantially similar to the Tye Britton reports, which were

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<v Speaker 1>the three O twos, and two there's a risk of

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<v Speaker 1>inavertent disclosure of victim information because the notes are hand written.

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<v Speaker 1>So then Andrew Block, the lawyer for Blanche, says, this,

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<v Speaker 1>your honor, to the point of that I will somewhat

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<v Speaker 1>reiterate our briefing here, but the determination have been made

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<v Speaker 1>that the handwritten notes were duplicative and materials already produced. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>as I've explained to you last week after this hearing,

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<v Speaker 1>there has never been an argument raised until that hearing

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<v Speaker 1>by Todd Blanche that the interview notes, the handwritten ones

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<v Speaker 1>are duplicative, meaning that they're identical to the three oz twos.

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<v Speaker 1>That's physically impossible, it's literally not happening. Duplicative is different

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<v Speaker 1>than substantially similar. Now Blanche has raised that as an excuse,

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<v Speaker 1>but as Judge Sullivan noted, there is no exception in

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<v Speaker 1>the Epstein Files Transparency Act for things that are quote

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<v Speaker 1>substantially similar as grounds or excuses for not producing them

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<v Speaker 1>to the public. And then Block conflates things and if

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<v Speaker 1>you're not paying attention, there's a whole lot of word

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<v Speaker 1>solid that goes on there, comes out of the doj

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<v Speaker 1>and in that mumba jumbo they try to confuse in.

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<v Speaker 2>That word salad.

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<v Speaker 1>Block says, that someone reviewed a draft indictment and said

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<v Speaker 1>there is no additional harm or risk of victim information

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't make sense, right, because it's irrelevant. The draft indictment

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<v Speaker 1>is different than the handwritten FBI notes. But Block was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to play fast and loose, right, He's like, let

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<v Speaker 1>me just bring this, let me do this word salad,

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<v Speaker 1>and then let me talk about a draft indictment and

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<v Speaker 1>let me talk about No, Sullivan wasn't buying it. This

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<v Speaker 1>is what Sullivan said. So you have no additional information?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what you're saying? Block says, yeah, I think so,

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<v Speaker 1>the court there must be some information. Block, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>think again. It's to the court's point about Sullivan interrupts,

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<v Speaker 1>how many pages of interview notes are we talking about? Block,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have that information, the court approximately, Block, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what the volume of handwritten material underlying three

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<v Speaker 1>twos is. Judge Sullivan says, have other handwritten notes been published?

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<v Speaker 1>And this is where Andrew Block steps in it. To

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<v Speaker 1>my knowledge, not with respect to the three zero twos.

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<v Speaker 1>The court, so, what would the cause be? The defendant

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<v Speaker 1>was directed to show cause why it should not be produced.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the answer, Block says. The answer, your honor is

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<v Speaker 1>that they are duplicative documents, and Sullivan says, well, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what the defendant says.

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<v Speaker 2>The court doesn't know that.

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<v Speaker 1>All the court is looking for is a means by

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<v Speaker 1>which the Court can conclude that what's been provided as

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<v Speaker 1>evidence is indeed consistent with three or two reports.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all.

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<v Speaker 1>But just to take it at face value that the

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<v Speaker 1>notes are substantially similar doesn't really address the court's responsibility.

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<v Speaker 1>The court has to determine that that's correct. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>looking for a way to do that. And the mumba jumbo,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not entirely sure what your honor is looking for.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there a specific direction? And the court responds, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just looking for cooperation. I'm just looking for evidence that

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<v Speaker 1>supports the defendant's representations that indeed the handwritten notes are

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<v Speaker 1>consistent with the three h two reports.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the court goes on, I mean it's simple.

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<v Speaker 1>I know these are difficult questions, but the court needs

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<v Speaker 1>to have a time frame for getting that information. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>willing to work with you. I'm willing to work with

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<v Speaker 1>the parties both sides. All I need is proof that

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<v Speaker 1>what the three or two reports say is actually true

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<v Speaker 1>and consistent with the FBI notes.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Bloc has no response. So what did we

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<v Speaker 2>do well?

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<v Speaker 1>As I said, a couple of minutes ago, Block misrepresented

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<v Speaker 1>to the court that there have not been hand written

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<v Speaker 1>interview notes produced reacted to the public that have been

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<v Speaker 1>produced in conjunction.

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<v Speaker 2>With FBI three oh two's. So what did we do well?

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<v Speaker 1>We brought notice to the court and we said defendants

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<v Speaker 1>Council is not correct in what he represented. Defendant has

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<v Speaker 1>in fact produce handwritten FBI interview notes underlying the three

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<v Speaker 1>to two reports, for example. And then we cite two

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein files Transparency Act bait stamps attached as Exhibit B.

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<v Speaker 1>These are handwritten notes underlying the three or two inter

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<v Speaker 1>review interview report that's produced at a specific Epstein Foles

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<v Speaker 1>Transparency Act bait stamp that is attached as Exhibits C.

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<v Speaker 1>In addition, what we did too is we identified nearly

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred additional examples of handwritten interview notes produced by

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<v Speaker 1>the defendant Todd Blanche in Exhibit D. And then this

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<v Speaker 1>is what we asked Judge Sullivan to do. Plaintiff Katie

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<v Speaker 1>Fang respectfully requests that the Court consider whether defendants stated

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<v Speaker 1>justification for withholding the handwritten FBI interview notes is consistent

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<v Speaker 1>with defendant's production of other handwritten materials when when conducting

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<v Speaker 1>it's in camera review of those notes. So, in other words,

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<v Speaker 1>what we're asking Judge Sullivan to do is take notice

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<v Speaker 1>from this filing where we gave him evidence that on

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<v Speaker 1>prior occasions, Todd Blanche and the Trump DOJ produced hand

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<v Speaker 1>written interview notes from an FBI agent redacted in some places.

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<v Speaker 2>That correlated to give me a second, please.

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<v Speaker 1>An FBI three oh two report redacted, and just in

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<v Speaker 1>case Todd Blanch in the DOJ seems to forget the

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<v Speaker 1>work that they purportedly did when they were doing this work,

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<v Speaker 1>we provided the following five plus page list of examples

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<v Speaker 1>of when handwritten notes have been produced by Blanche Slashed

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump DOJ in compliance with the Epstein Foules Transparency Act.

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<v Speaker 1>We're just reminding Judge Sullivan that when there's a will,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a way, and Todd Blanche has done it before.

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<v Speaker 1>So his lame ass excuse that it's duplicative or substantially similar,

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<v Speaker 1>not only is it not recognized of the Epstein Files

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<v Speaker 1>Transparency Act, but it's a crocod shit. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>we all know too, it's not voluminous documents. It's what

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<v Speaker 1>thirty something pages is what we know. So spare me,

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<v Speaker 1>Spare me the drama, spare me the lies, spare me

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<v Speaker 1>the bullshit. Blanche should turn them over, and he is

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<v Speaker 1>because Judge Sullivan says you're gonna have to turn them

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's worthwhile doing a footnote here as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I have seen they have been sent to me, I've read,

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<v Speaker 1>if that helps putting them into the ether by doing so.

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<v Speaker 1>I would prefer to wait and actually get the handwritten

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<v Speaker 1>notes from the DOJ that coincide with the three H

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<v Speaker 1>from South Carolina. I'd rather do that than make a

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't pushed them out and done anything with them.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, the rest of this proposed order, the four

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<v Speaker 1>judge of what the declaration should be that assigned by Blanche,

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<v Speaker 1>and that no later than September third, Blanche or a

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<v Speaker 1>submit a written declaration under penalties of perjury, setting forth

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<v Speaker 1>the information of the process behind the redaction log. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the Epstein File Transparency Act requires two things to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Congress that says we withheld and redacted under these particular categories. However,

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<v Speaker 2>So unless you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Reacting stuff and withholding stuff you're not supposed to, you

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<v Speaker 2>Blanches, he doesn't have to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>So what we've said in our proposed order to the

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<v Speaker 1>judge is for this sworn declaration under penalties of perjury,

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<v Speaker 1>to explain if the Department of Justice has completed that

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<v Speaker 1>whether the Department has submitted it for publication yet, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>If the Department has begun preparing that hasn't yet completed

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<v Speaker 1>that redaction log, tell us when did you actually start,

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<v Speaker 1>if the DOJ has not even begun preparing that redaction log,

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<v Speaker 1>provide a detailed explanation as to why why the DOJ

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't begun preparing that redaction log, including but not limited to,

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<v Speaker 1>with the law. This, my friends, is what Judge Sullivan

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<v Speaker 1>ordered us to do, and that is what the transcript reflects.

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<v Speaker 2>From that hearing.

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<v Speaker 1>There are other issues that remain at large, including the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that Blanche has blown through the deadline to answer

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<v Speaker 1>and respond to my lawsuit, including some other things that

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<v Speaker 1>deal with the foreign language translations. As you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>very hell bent on getting those documents. These things are

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<v Speaker 1>also being managed, but at this point we are complying

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<v Speaker 1>is what I have just walked you through. This is

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<v Speaker 1>happening in this suit. I like you want things to

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<v Speaker 1>move faster. However, there are deadlines, rules, and other things

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<v Speaker 1>that apply here that are kind of having to rain

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<v Speaker 1>me in a little bit. But rest assured, I am

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<v Speaker 1>doggedly pursuing this case to the best and the most

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<v Speaker 1>of my ability, as are my lawyers, who are incredible

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<v Speaker 2>Be mad, be outrage, demand accountability.

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<v Speaker 1>Leave a comment below this episode letting me know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm off to rattle more. Katie Fang.

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<v Speaker 1>a high information America together. Operation Metro Surge was a

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<v Speaker 1>disaster for the Trump regime because it just lit a

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<v Speaker 1>fire under the people.

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<v Speaker 2>It gave them a purpose.

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<v Speaker 1>It gave them a reason to want to step up

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<v Speaker 1>and speak out over the atrocities that are be committed

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<v Speaker 1>under the guise of immigration enforcement by this administration. Specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>we witnessed the murders of Renanna Colegood and Alex pretty

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<v Speaker 1>in broad daylight. But some things happened that didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>an ICE agent by the name of Christian Cashow. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the name of the ICE agent, and the man who

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<v Speaker 1>was shot was Julio's Sosa Salisse. Now it'd be bad

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<v Speaker 1>enough that this ICE agent shot into a home, a

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<v Speaker 1>residence when the door was closed. He shot through the

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<v Speaker 1>closed door, striking mister Salise in the leg. And the

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<v Speaker 1>bullet got lodged in a child's bedroom. Yes, there were

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<v Speaker 2>Would be bad enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh but what is the icing on that proverbial shit cake.

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<v Speaker 1>This Ice agent, Christian Castro, then lied to the FBI

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<v Speaker 1>the residents. Well, the truth came out, and after the

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<v Speaker 1>truth came out, Christian Castro was appropriately indicted for four

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<v Speaker 1>accounts of assault as well as one count of lying

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<v Speaker 1>making a false report. Those charges brought by the Hennepin

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<v Speaker 1>County Attorney Mary Moriarty with the support of the Attorney

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<v Speaker 1>General of Minnesota, Keith Allison. But that's not the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the story. And arrest warrant was issued for this

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<v Speaker 1>Ice agent, Christian Castro, who, of course, like spent the

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<v Speaker 1>where do they find him h in Texas of course,

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<v Speaker 1>probably on his way to the border. And now the

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<v Speaker 1>Governor of Texas, Grid Abbott, refuses to sign the extradition

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<v Speaker 1>paperwork so that he can be sent back to Minnesota

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<v Speaker 1>to face the concert of his illegal actions. So the

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<v Speaker 1>Minnesota Attorney General Keith Allison said, not on my watch.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm suing suing the governor of Texas, Greg Abbott. I

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<v Speaker 1>invited Attorney General Ellison to join me because I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to get into the details of this lawsuit. I also

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to get an update on what's happening with the

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<v Speaker 1>investigation into the murders of Renna Cole Good and Alex

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty Take a listen. Joining me now is the Attorney

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<v Speaker 1>General of Minnesota, Keith Ellison.

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<v Speaker 2>General.

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<v Speaker 1>I am impressed because you consistently not just walk that

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<v Speaker 1>walk or I got that I can say I that

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<v Speaker 1>they's wrong. You don't just talk the talk, you walk

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<v Speaker 1>it right. This lawsuit is incredible number one, but number two,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what's.

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<v Speaker 2>Good for the goose is good for the gander.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the rule of law requires that it be

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<v Speaker 1>applied to everybody. And it looks to me like Governor

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<v Speaker 1>Abbott thinks that he's just gonna pretend like he never

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<v Speaker 1>got the extradition.

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<v Speaker 3>Notice that's right. I mean, so we filed this way

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<v Speaker 3>back in June and it's been sitting there for literally months.

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<v Speaker 3>Usually Texas responds back to Minnesota within thirty days, and

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<v Speaker 3>they do routinely and we respond back within like three days.

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<v Speaker 3>When people are in Minnesota but they're being extraduted to

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<v Speaker 3>other states, we respond within three days. So for him

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<v Speaker 3>to wait until the eleventh hour and make us sue

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<v Speaker 3>him is extraordinary. When you build yourself as some law

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<v Speaker 3>and order guy, Well, the law and the order are

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<v Speaker 3>that the Constitution says you got to sign the extradition warrant.

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<v Speaker 3>You have no discretion. It's not a discretionary thing. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not like if you feel like it or if you agree,

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<v Speaker 3>nothing like that. It is Minnesota wants this guy. He's

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<v Speaker 3>a fugitive in your state. He must be returned to

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<v Speaker 3>Minnesota and face justice. And he has all of his

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<v Speaker 3>rights in Minnesota, right to confrontation, right to counsel, right

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<v Speaker 3>to be presumed innocent, all the rights. I make no

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<v Speaker 3>claim that he's totally guilty. We think he's there's probable

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<v Speaker 3>cause that he's guilty, which is why we charged him.

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<v Speaker 3>But he has every right any defendant ever has. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not up to mister Abbott to decide whether he wants

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<v Speaker 3>to do it or not. He must do it. And

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<v Speaker 3>he's failed in his duty and obligation, and he is

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<v Speaker 3>selective about law and order, because when he wants to

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<v Speaker 3>prosecute somebody, he does it, and when he doesn't, he

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<v Speaker 3>skips it. So that's really why we have to file

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<v Speaker 3>the lawsuit. And while this is going to come to

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So a couple of things here.

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<v Speaker 1>Number one, I want people to understand there is no

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<v Speaker 1>extradition clause of the United States Constitution, the Federal Extradition Act,

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<v Speaker 2>Governor Abbot doesn't have.

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<v Speaker 1>As you say, the discretion to reject this extradition request

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<v Speaker 1>from Governor Walls from Minnesota. And what's also important about

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<v Speaker 1>what you just said is there's no presumptions of guilt here.

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<v Speaker 1>It's bring him to the jurisdiction of Minnesota to face

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<v Speaker 1>the charges that were filed against him in an indictment

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<v Speaker 1>here in Minnesota, right, and let him go through the

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<v Speaker 1>process here. But to me, it's harboring a fugitive at

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<v Speaker 1>this point. If Governor Abbott does not abide by the law, that.

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<v Speaker 3>Is exactly right. And if I made Katie you know

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<v Speaker 3>so this let me just tell folks a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>about this case. So this is during Operation Metro Search.

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<v Speaker 3>Operation Metro Search, as you know because you came here,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you, was the largest deployment of immigration agents at

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<v Speaker 3>one place at one time in Minneso. And it happened

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<v Speaker 3>at Minnesota. Minnesota is not even in the top half

423
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<v Speaker 3>of destinations for immigration and yet they targeted our state.

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<v Speaker 3>We can get into why later. The point is, mister

425
00:23:52.759 --> 00:23:58.920
<v Speaker 3>Soso Solise was being chased by these individuals who are

426
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<v Speaker 3>immigration agents. Them was a man named Christian Castro. Christian

427
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<v Speaker 3>Castro shoots through a closed door, wounds mister social Salice

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<v Speaker 3>in the back of his leg. Bullet goes through and

429
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<v Speaker 3>through lodges in another part of the house. There are

430
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<v Speaker 3>children in the house. Okay, so he's what he did

431
00:24:17.119 --> 00:24:22.039
<v Speaker 3>was dramatically reckless. Anyway, what he doesn't know is that

432
00:24:22.079 --> 00:24:26.240
<v Speaker 3>there's a CCTV camera showing all this. He then lies

433
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<v Speaker 3>to the FBI and says, I was attacked with weapons.

434
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<v Speaker 3>I was in fear of my life. Oh my goodness.

435
00:24:32.400 --> 00:24:37.519
<v Speaker 3>And then mister Solice is charged with assaulting a federal officer.

436
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<v Speaker 3>Then when the CCTV comes out, it's shown that everything

437
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<v Speaker 3>Castro said was a ball faced lie and that he

438
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<v Speaker 3>was never attacked. He shot through a closed door and uh,

439
00:24:52.160 --> 00:24:54.880
<v Speaker 3>and he in the case, and mister social solice was

440
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<v Speaker 3>charged with a crime. That case is dismissed with prejudice.

441
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<v Speaker 3>We then charge Castro not only for assault, but for

442
00:25:05.759 --> 00:25:11.519
<v Speaker 3>lying and filing a false police report, and we charged him.

443
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<v Speaker 3>Then the extradition process begins. The federal government dismissed a

444
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<v Speaker 3>criminal prosecution because Castro is a damn liar allegedly, and

445
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<v Speaker 3>so you know, this is the this is the reality

446
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<v Speaker 3>of the situation. And Ebbat says, I don't care. I

447
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<v Speaker 3>don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, here's the other thing that I want to kind

449
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<v Speaker 1>of add to your factual recitation here, which is important.

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<v Speaker 1>Christian Castro, as an ice agent is not somebody from Minnesota, right.

451
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<v Speaker 2>So he comes in, He.

452
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<v Speaker 1>Enters the borders of a state that has sovereignty to

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<v Speaker 1>take care of its people and its citizens. He comes

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<v Speaker 1>in as a part of an incredibly, in my humble opinion,

455
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<v Speaker 1>illegal immigration operation, comes in physically harms, assaults citizens of Minnesota.

456
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<v Speaker 1>And then isn't it such an interesting consciousness of guilt

457
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<v Speaker 1>sign He's gone just like the people who murdered Alex

458
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<v Speaker 1>pretty renaining.

459
00:26:16.000 --> 00:26:17.400
<v Speaker 2>Hole good poof gone.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So these federal authorities, these federal agents, they again

461
00:26:22.240 --> 00:26:26.200
<v Speaker 1>enter borders of sovereign states like Minnesota, commit crimes and.

462
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<v Speaker 2>Then they're gone.

463
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<v Speaker 1>And isn't it such a isn't it such a tell

464
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<v Speaker 1>that they go to a place and then he's found

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<v Speaker 1>in Texas.

466
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<v Speaker 2>That's the other thing.

467
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<v Speaker 1>So there's an award issued for his arrest by the

468
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<v Speaker 1>Henibon County DA Mary moriety regarding this case, and they

469
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<v Speaker 1>find the Texas Rangers find him in Texas, which is

470
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<v Speaker 1>very close to borders, right, that's a border state. And

471
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<v Speaker 1>he's in custody right now in Texas. But I do

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<v Speaker 1>think it's very interesting that this is what they do.

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<v Speaker 1>They come into these states, they commit crimes, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>like peace out and they don't stay because they know

475
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<v Speaker 1>that something's up.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's very very concerning. And here's the other thing.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, on the there's a statute in Texas which

478
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<v Speaker 3>says we will hold him for ninety days. After that

479
00:27:10.400 --> 00:27:13.359
<v Speaker 3>we might That's what I'm worried about, and so we've

480
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<v Speaker 3>had to fight. We wrote three letters. Mary Moriarty, who

481
00:27:16.200 --> 00:27:18.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, wrote a letter. I wrote a letter and said,

482
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<v Speaker 3>here's the legal here's the law, and then he and

483
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<v Speaker 3>then he has the warrant itself, and he's still not really,

484
00:27:28.680 --> 00:27:30.680
<v Speaker 3>he's still not turning this guy over. He still has

485
00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:34.119
<v Speaker 3>not signed the extradition warrant. There is no reason to

486
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<v Speaker 3>believe anything other than he plans on trying to run

487
00:27:38.359 --> 00:27:40.720
<v Speaker 3>out the clock, which is why we had to file

488
00:27:40.759 --> 00:27:44.519
<v Speaker 3>the lawsuit. When we did, some people wonder, well, why

489
00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:46.920
<v Speaker 3>did you wait? Well, the reason we waited is because

490
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<v Speaker 3>we thought that he would honor the extradition warrant, just

491
00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:54.839
<v Speaker 3>like they have before. He has signed extradition warrants for

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<v Speaker 3>three times since Castro was arrested, and so he knows

493
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<v Speaker 3>how to do it, you know, and it's a routine

494
00:28:03.480 --> 00:28:07.200
<v Speaker 3>thing between states, but for political and performative reasons, he's

495
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<v Speaker 3>blocking it. Can I add one more thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Kadie here come highth sure?

497
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

498
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<v Speaker 3>So he was asked by some reporters, why haven't you

499
00:28:12.920 --> 00:28:15.400
<v Speaker 3>signed the Minnesota extra dish warrant? Yeah? And you know

500
00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:17.640
<v Speaker 3>what he said, You know what he said right here?

501
00:28:17.680 --> 00:28:18.720
<v Speaker 2>You go ahead tell him? Yeah.

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00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:21.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. He said, oh, well, when they pay back all

503
00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:24.400
<v Speaker 3>the money that Minnesota that was defrauded in Minnesota, then

504
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<v Speaker 3>I'll do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, Texas governor says, what about what I mean,

506
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<v Speaker 1>really what it's like? Since when are you as responsible

507
00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:34.279
<v Speaker 1>for that? And that's a whole other Krocky, you know

508
00:28:34.359 --> 00:28:36.279
<v Speaker 1>what about the fraud stuff. I mean, there is fraud,

509
00:28:36.319 --> 00:28:39.519
<v Speaker 1>but it's definitely not of what these guys are talking about. Look,

510
00:28:39.559 --> 00:28:42.960
<v Speaker 1>this ninety day window is really important because the window

511
00:28:43.119 --> 00:28:45.559
<v Speaker 1>runs on August twenty six, and for people who are

512
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<v Speaker 1>following along here, once that ninety days is up, the

513
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<v Speaker 1>guy Christian Castro, who's currently being held by the sheriff.

514
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<v Speaker 2>He will be released.

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<v Speaker 1>And so what are you seeking from a court, Because

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<v Speaker 1>I saw you filed in federal court in Texas and Division.

517
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<v Speaker 2>So what are you asking the court to do?

518
00:29:02.799 --> 00:29:05.680
<v Speaker 3>We're asking we have we have two things. One we're saying,

519
00:29:05.920 --> 00:29:09.359
<v Speaker 3>don't release them to the sheriff. We want the court

520
00:29:09.640 --> 00:29:11.680
<v Speaker 3>we want the judge to issue a court order to

521
00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:14.680
<v Speaker 3>tell the the the sheriff not to release him. And

522
00:29:14.920 --> 00:29:17.319
<v Speaker 3>we have a and our motion is to make the

523
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<v Speaker 3>governors sign the warrant to release him too Minnesota. So

524
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<v Speaker 3>if so, if that happens, they may appeal, they may not.

525
00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:29.240
<v Speaker 3>If they don't, he's on his way back to Minnesota.

526
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<v Speaker 3>If they do then that's going to be in the

527
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<v Speaker 3>Fifth Circuit. That's why we need the court the jail

528
00:29:35.240 --> 00:29:39.079
<v Speaker 3>to hold on to him. Then. Uh, if the Fifth

529
00:29:39.160 --> 00:29:42.359
<v Speaker 3>Circuit rules, you know, upholds the District court judge, which

530
00:29:42.359 --> 00:29:44.839
<v Speaker 3>we believe will rule in our favor, then he's coming back.

531
00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:47.559
<v Speaker 3>If they don't, then we got to go to Supreme

532
00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:50.599
<v Speaker 3>Court for an emergency red. So we're we've gained this

533
00:29:50.759 --> 00:29:54.720
<v Speaker 3>thing out and I'm telling you this, mister Castro will

534
00:29:54.839 --> 00:30:01.400
<v Speaker 3>face justice in Minnesota period. If somebody lets him out

535
00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:05.119
<v Speaker 3>and they're not supposed to, I'm gonna we're gonna chase

536
00:30:05.200 --> 00:30:09.599
<v Speaker 3>him to to Mexico. He's going to face justice. He

537
00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:12.880
<v Speaker 3>is going to face justice. He might as well do

538
00:30:13.000 --> 00:30:16.799
<v Speaker 3>it now. And let me just say this flight is

539
00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:21.880
<v Speaker 3>consciousness of guilt and relevant from an evidentiary point of view,

540
00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:26.119
<v Speaker 3>meaning that the jury may find out that you skid outled,

541
00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:30.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, so if he follows the rules now, they won't.

542
00:30:30.960 --> 00:30:32.359
<v Speaker 3>If he doesn't, they might.

543
00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:35.160
<v Speaker 2>It's also relevant for people's bomb status too.

544
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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah. Oh, and he has contexts in Mexico.

545
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<v Speaker 1>He has I mean that the irony's abound there, right.

546
00:30:44.599 --> 00:30:47.960
<v Speaker 1>He wants to run around and round up migrants and

547
00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:50.200
<v Speaker 1>then he wants to flee to Mexico fall place.

548
00:30:50.319 --> 00:30:53.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he wants to. Yeah. It's so it's so disgusting,

549
00:30:53.640 --> 00:30:56.359
<v Speaker 3>it's even hard to believe. But one day we're all

550
00:30:56.400 --> 00:30:59.079
<v Speaker 3>gonna have great books to write, Katie, you know, because

551
00:30:59.519 --> 00:31:02.319
<v Speaker 3>you can believe some of the stuff that is going

552
00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:03.400
<v Speaker 3>down right nowadays.

553
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<v Speaker 1>You know, General Alison, one of the things I wanted

554
00:31:06.440 --> 00:31:08.200
<v Speaker 1>to speak with you about too is this. I mean

555
00:31:08.240 --> 00:31:11.640
<v Speaker 1>there I have a huge investment emotionally in what happens

556
00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:12.799
<v Speaker 1>to Minneapolis Saint Paul.

557
00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:14.559
<v Speaker 2>It has become a home away from home for me.

558
00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:16.440
<v Speaker 2>I know a lot of people want to know.

559
00:31:17.000 --> 00:31:20.599
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's great because Minneapolis, or more accurately, Minnesota

560
00:31:20.799 --> 00:31:23.759
<v Speaker 1>is the only state that is taking action against federal

561
00:31:23.839 --> 00:31:27.160
<v Speaker 1>agents that are doing things to its citizens, right, And

562
00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:29.240
<v Speaker 1>I do know people have been asking, yes, but what

563
00:31:29.400 --> 00:31:30.960
<v Speaker 1>about because we always get the one about it, but

564
00:31:31.079 --> 00:31:32.599
<v Speaker 1>what about Renana cole Good?

565
00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:34.039
<v Speaker 2>What about Alex Pretty right?

566
00:31:34.200 --> 00:31:37.480
<v Speaker 1>I know you and the District Attorney Moriarty are trying

567
00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:41.319
<v Speaker 1>so hard to be able to get some cooperation from

568
00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:44.400
<v Speaker 1>the Feds. You were able to get some evidence over it,

569
00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:46.480
<v Speaker 1>but I know people are gonna want to know if

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<v Speaker 1>if there's any updates or anything that you could possibly

571
00:31:49.279 --> 00:31:53.160
<v Speaker 1>share without of course disclosing anything or violating privileges, but

572
00:31:53.279 --> 00:31:55.480
<v Speaker 1>just maybe some information to let them know what's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I will say that we have received some cooperation.

574
00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:03.400
<v Speaker 3>We've received more. We have more information that we had

575
00:32:03.519 --> 00:32:06.839
<v Speaker 3>when they first told us no, and so we've received

576
00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:09.720
<v Speaker 3>a lot, but we don't have it all yet and

577
00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:12.960
<v Speaker 3>we're in the process of negotiating to get the rest

578
00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:15.559
<v Speaker 3>of it now. In the meantime, we found a civil

579
00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:20.039
<v Speaker 3>action to compel the federal government to give us the

580
00:32:20.079 --> 00:32:23.200
<v Speaker 3>rest of the file, and so that is winding its

581
00:32:23.240 --> 00:32:25.680
<v Speaker 3>way through the system. So we are working, I'm gonna

582
00:32:25.680 --> 00:32:27.279
<v Speaker 3>tell you, Katie, and I want all your listeners to

583
00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:30.319
<v Speaker 3>know we're working on this every day. We have a team,

584
00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:33.519
<v Speaker 3>two teams, both the county attorney and the Attorney General

585
00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:37.559
<v Speaker 3>teamed up working on this to get justice for Freddie

586
00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:40.880
<v Speaker 3>and Good every day. So I don't want anybody to

587
00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:42.960
<v Speaker 3>think we're not working hard. Just because you don't see

588
00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:45.799
<v Speaker 3>it in the news doesn't mean we are not laboring

589
00:32:46.519 --> 00:32:49.039
<v Speaker 3>with great effort every single day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is where I wanted to ask, because I

591
00:32:51.640 --> 00:32:53.640
<v Speaker 1>know that that's what you're doing and oftentimes when it's

592
00:32:53.680 --> 00:32:56.440
<v Speaker 1>not some marquee headline, A lot of people make assumptions

593
00:32:56.519 --> 00:32:58.720
<v Speaker 1>that it's gone to the back burner. I mean, there

594
00:32:58.839 --> 00:33:02.160
<v Speaker 1>is other work that you do tirelessly as the attorney general.

595
00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:04.359
<v Speaker 1>But I do think it was important to ask because

596
00:33:04.359 --> 00:33:06.240
<v Speaker 1>it's relevant. I mean, and then the bigger picture thing

597
00:33:06.319 --> 00:33:08.480
<v Speaker 1>is this, right, I mean, at least you're doing something

598
00:33:08.519 --> 00:33:12.240
<v Speaker 1>about it. I don't see any other states doing anything,

599
00:33:12.279 --> 00:33:14.839
<v Speaker 1>and it's not because they don't have probably an interest

600
00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:17.119
<v Speaker 1>in doing it. It's just as we're seeing here, you

601
00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:19.640
<v Speaker 1>keep on hitting roadblocks that are created by either the

602
00:33:19.680 --> 00:33:23.319
<v Speaker 1>federal administration or by Republican led states. I mean, to me,

603
00:33:23.960 --> 00:33:28.920
<v Speaker 1>that is just an outrageous level of a disregard for

604
00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:32.440
<v Speaker 1>the rule of law as well as just for just cooperation, right.

605
00:33:32.480 --> 00:33:34.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's going to come a day when they

606
00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:37.200
<v Speaker 1>need your help, these other states. But you guys are

607
00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:39.920
<v Speaker 1>not petty that way. You don't play petty partisan politics,

608
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<v Speaker 1>as you noted Governor Wallace has signed extradition requests by

609
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<v Speaker 1>Governor Abbott. You know, when you get a request for

610
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<v Speaker 1>assistance or cooperation from other jurisdictions, even if they're quote

611
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<v Speaker 1>red led.

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<v Speaker 2>States, you do it. I mean, that's the way it's

613
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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be.

614
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<v Speaker 3>That is exactly how it's supposed to be. And I

615
00:33:57.559 --> 00:34:00.160
<v Speaker 3>will tell you that the law is very simple. If

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00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:02.519
<v Speaker 3>you commit a crime in a state and then flee

617
00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:05.759
<v Speaker 3>to another state, the governor in the other states supposed

618
00:34:05.759 --> 00:34:07.559
<v Speaker 3>to sign their rendition warrant to bring you back to

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<v Speaker 3>face justice in the original state where the crime was committed.

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00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:13.920
<v Speaker 3>Simple as that you have all of your rights. Why

621
00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:17.559
<v Speaker 3>they're the fact that the Abbott won't won't sign the

622
00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:22.199
<v Speaker 3>warrant suggests to me that he doesn't believe that Castro

623
00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:26.079
<v Speaker 3>was doing the right thing as he apparently believes he was.

624
00:34:26.480 --> 00:34:29.280
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it is an extraordinary moment in American history.

625
00:34:29.880 --> 00:34:33.639
<v Speaker 3>We will prevail, I have no doubt about it, but

626
00:34:33.880 --> 00:34:36.760
<v Speaker 3>we want It's a sad moment that we're living in.

627
00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:41.719
<v Speaker 3>Quite frankly, and U and An Abbot's response to the

628
00:34:41.800 --> 00:34:47.119
<v Speaker 3>reporter about Minnesota fraud just really does prove that Republicans

629
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<v Speaker 3>are trying to politicize a serious issue. That's what they're

630
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<v Speaker 3>trying to do. They're trying to use an issue to

631
00:34:54.760 --> 00:34:57.960
<v Speaker 3>get political leverage and that and that's pretty much it.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, Abbot's in a pretty self race himself

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<v Speaker 3>tell Rico is looking good in Texas and so maybe

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<v Speaker 3>this is some stunt that he thinks is going to

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<v Speaker 3>help him generate energy in the base. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>that speculation on my part, but it's irrational, it's crazy,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's unconstitutional.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, before we part ways, it didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>ask you as a fellow lawyer and a fellow trial lawyer.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we're seeing number one, We're seeing outrageous statements

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<v Speaker 1>from people that are saying things like Derek Chauvin should

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<v Speaker 1>be should be pardoned and Derek Chauvin should be let

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<v Speaker 1>out of prison. We're also seeing go at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a whole lot of people that are in

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<v Speaker 1>positions of trust, like a federal law enforcement agent or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a United States attorney or an assistant US attorney.

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<v Speaker 1>We're finding that they're.

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<v Speaker 2>Getting in trouble, right, I mean, this is all coming

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<v Speaker 2>to light.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, eventually it all comes to be transparent because

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<v Speaker 1>people are doggedly still believing in the law and injustice.

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<v Speaker 1>We're seeing that, you know, grand juries are either saying

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<v Speaker 1>we won't return an indictment or we're finding out that

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<v Speaker 1>there was misconduct by the prosecutors and security indictments. We're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing that we're getting, you know, more and more information

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<v Speaker 1>even in my lawsuit right for the Epstein files. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I keep on pushing because I do believe that this

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of a moment of recogning for bad lawyers.

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<v Speaker 1>These are bad lawyers doing bad things. And so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Aviad should know better. You know he should know better.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got an ag and Ken Paxson who should know better. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>these people should be giving sage counsel as lawyers, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're not because it serves a political purpose for them

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<v Speaker 1>to turn a blind eye to the truth into the law.

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<v Speaker 3>You are so spot on. I mean, one example is

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<v Speaker 3>jan Pirou. Right now, there's no greater loyalist to Trump

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<v Speaker 3>than Jean Piro. I mean she is, She is ten

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<v Speaker 3>toes down with that guy. And yet and yet her

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<v Speaker 3>she has an impulse of integrity where she says, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>mister president, like a little one. You know, there's no

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<v Speaker 3>case here, mister president. I cannot charge the guy for

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<v Speaker 3>tampering with a reflecting pool. There's no evidence. And what

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<v Speaker 3>does he do publicly reprimands her? You see what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>So now she has to ask yourself if she's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be still on staff, you know, and so Trump. The

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<v Speaker 3>thing about Trump is that he's like, look, don't you

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<v Speaker 3>obey the law. You obey me? And you got people

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<v Speaker 3>who say yes or buss like Todd Blanch, and you

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<v Speaker 3>got others who say no, I got a higher I

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<v Speaker 3>got a higher set of loyalties than your personality. And

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<v Speaker 3>these people are going to run a file of Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no way that they can get along with them.

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<v Speaker 3>What didn't Pam BONDI do to get along with Trump?

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't matter. I have a theory.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a theory.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she was so bad at being bad that

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<v Speaker 1>that's why she got canned. And that's why Todd Blanch

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<v Speaker 1>is so good at being bad that you got rewarded

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<v Speaker 1>for that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my fare.

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<v Speaker 3>I think your theory is probably right. You know, she

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<v Speaker 3>was bad at being bad and so far. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>but this guy, this is the same guy who goes

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<v Speaker 3>to meet with Gleame Maxwell gives her a sweetheart deal

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<v Speaker 3>in Texas, no less, and then stare and then you know.

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<v Speaker 3>But I just want to say, as we wrap, thank

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<v Speaker 3>you for your dogged pursuit of the truth in the

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<v Speaker 3>Epstein matters. Thank you, my goodness. You know I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to tell you, Katie, one day, we're all going to

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<v Speaker 3>look back and we're gonna know that there were people

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<v Speaker 3>who stood up in this moment for the right ideals,

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<v Speaker 3>and there were those who were who didn't, and you

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<v Speaker 3>are among those who did what was right when it

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<v Speaker 3>was hard.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate that. Amen.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, this is every day we have a choice. Right

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<v Speaker 1>we are either on the right side of history or

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<v Speaker 1>we're not. And it doesn't make it easy for us,

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<v Speaker 1>as you say, because we get assailed for the decisions

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<v Speaker 1>that we make. But this is what we're supposed to do,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why I always appreciate the work you're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Attorney General Keith Els and thank you so much, and

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<v Speaker 1>please share. Send my regards also to head it Pen

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<v Speaker 1>County Attorney the District Attorney Mary Moriahy, who's also doggedly.

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<v Speaker 2>In this fight with us. I really appreciate the work

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing. Thank you so much. Thanks Katie Fang.

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