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Speaker 1: All right, welcome in to full Court Press, and uh

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Robert will likely join shortly, but we got to get going.

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There's a huge slate of games today and right off

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the top, uh it's Veterans Day, So thank you to

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anyone that's served our good buddy Mark Zeno and anyone

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else that has served our country. So the three of us,

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there's rob let me let me just bring them in.

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There we go, so the three of us can can

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can sit here and talk about basketball games and handicapped games.

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Uh and, and we have the ability to do that.

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So happy veteran, you know, thank you to all that

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have served. I strolled up in my Navy zip up.

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I got to go down to the two Navy on

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Veterans Day weekend last year. That was very cool. They

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were also very good to me there on my visit.

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Uh And, and we'll probably talk some Navy hoops at

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some point. But there is a lot of big games tonight,

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and I'm gonna we'll go co co main event here

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if you I know. There's a few big ones, but

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I want to start The two games I want to

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start with are going to be Kentucky Louisville and Texas Tech. Illinois.

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I think those are kind of the two biggest on

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the slate. So let's start Kentucky Louis. I'm gonna go

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to Brian Power first man. They big rivalry game. They

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moved it up a little bit earlier in the season.

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They used to I feel like they used to play

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this when like students weren't around in like, yeah.

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Speaker 2: The Christmas.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember watching this game with my father in

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law a few times, which means it would have been

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around a holiday of some sort.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, so Brian, this game is that the KFC

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YOUM center something that is no longer on my diet

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after this weekend. You know, I had to clean it up.

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But the importance of that is Louis will been getting

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a big home game here. Kids on campus should be

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an intense environment, likely baked into the number a little

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bit though, So kick me off, Kentucky loul How you

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see this rivalry?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, KFC, YOUM with the exclamation point like Jeb Bush's

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FA presidential campaign. But that's a different story for a

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different day. I don't want to be I don't want

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to bury the lead everybody. I look, I'm sure people

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are hop in the comments section and mention it, so

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anyone who was on board last night by five percent.

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Speaker 4: NFL play the Green Bay Packers.

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Speaker 3: You need more than seven points game, so sorry about

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that anyone who followed. We'll get it back here tonight

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and moving forward and in college hoops, I think you

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mentioned trigger it's a great slate, so let's hit it

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off with a game that I'm gonna be talking about

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on wager Talk today. I'll give you kind of a

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cliff Notes version of the preview. I'm going to give

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a Matt show. But you mentioned it's an earlier meeting.

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Their meeting earlier in the season than normal. It's the

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first time Kentucky Louisville have played both as ranked teams

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since twenty nineteen, so it's a really big deal tonight, guys.

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Kentucky's won eight of the previous ten meetings. Of course,

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more pertinent for our discussion here being that we are

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a betting show. Wildcats seven too and one against the number.

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In those last ten games last year, they failed to

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cover one, only my eight as ten point favorites, Kentucky

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really shot the lights out, guys. If you remember fifty

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eight percent overall. To be exact, fifty two percent from three.

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Speaker 4: They were last year against Louisville and Lamon.

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Speaker 3: Butler did not miss a single field goal attempt in

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that game, finished with thirty three points. Of course, that

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was in Lexington, not the KFC Young Center in Louisville.

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This is the first true road game for Kentucky. Wildcats

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have smashed their first two games. It's hard to learn

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a lot. We've talked about that. When you're a big favorite,

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your role as expected. There's I don't think a lot

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you can pull. Kentucky's a team that's scored one hundred

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points one hundred and more six times last season. No Trent,

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Noah for Valpo. I don't know how much that's going

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to factor to your guys. Handicap he tweaked his ankle

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in the opener. I can tell you this is a

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Wildcat's team. Was seven guys averaging and double figured so far,

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so one guy being out probably not the end of

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the world if he can't play. Also, Mark Pope is

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coaching tonight. There was some fake news on the internet.

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I don't know if you guys caught this. Somebody tried

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spreading a nasty rumor that because of jury duty, Mark

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Pope would not be coaching today. Mark Pope has in

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fact been called for jury duty. But guess what, guys,

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the State of Kentucky's gonna let him coach tonight. So

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people who make up fake things like that should just

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be physically assaulted.

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Speaker 4: In my opinion, that's just that's just my take.

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Speaker 1: Though.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why you would go on the internet

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and lie on purpose. But Louisville, I think there's a

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lot to like, Guys. I don't know what you think.

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This is a team that's shooting seventy two percent from

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two point range so far. Now that was against Jackson

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State and South Carolina State. We understand that. But I

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think the Cardinals here, you know, I know Ken palm

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has Kentucky is it's top rated team so far. I

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really respect the work Ken Palmeroy has done gang, but

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I actually think Louisville's the better team. You know, And

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then you guys can talk. I'll leave the Louisville side.

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I guess open to you guys here. I've talked long enough.

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But you know Hadley, you know he missed the last

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game to to being in concussion protocol. Prior though return

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from an acl that kept him out of action for

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a year. I just think, you know the Mark, it

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seems to agree with my assessment that Louisville's to play here.

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I've seen some sharper books at five, at least I

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did a few minutes before I logged on here to

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go live. And meanwhile, you think the public's probably gonna

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be enamored with the higher ranked team getting points, that

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being Kentucky in this situation.

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Speaker 4: But I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna respectfully disagree with Kentucky being number one in

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ken Palm.

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Speaker 4: I think Louisville's better.

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Speaker 5: I would lay it, yeah, Brian, I would you know

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those who got to three and a half early m Again,

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I think I'm talking weird here. It doesn't sound right

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to me, but if you can hear me, I'm gonna

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keep there.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, sound good to us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: The the number now five and a half. But the

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total is what's going crazy?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 5: An eight point move on this total upward? Obviously, we

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talked the other day about Pat Kelsey. He wants to

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go go go. Mark Pope wants to go go go.

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I understand, I don't know when it gets to be

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too high, But for my taste, it's probably too high

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right now with the totals concern a couple of things here, Brian,

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you hit on them, a couple of injury tidbits to

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clean up for this one prior we'll see.

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Speaker 2: The word from Pat Kelsey was he's hopeful he can

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go tonight.

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Speaker 5: But if you look preseason, there are a lot of

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projections for Kentucky's backcourt being top ten in the country.

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And I'll just throw a vote in here for Louisville's

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talent at backcourt, right. Mckel brown five star prospect, another

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one of these kids that's projected lottery pick NBA. They

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go out and they grab two to three point marksmen

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out of the portal, Isaac McNeely from Virginia, Ryan Conwell

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from Xavier.

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Speaker 2: Both guys have shot it at forty.

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Speaker 5: One percent or better so far this season. County Ruth's

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has turned into a sophomores and say leading scorer for

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the team so far. They seem to have all the

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pieces here Louisville and my estimation, you're right, Brian. For

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the first two games, each side played two very very

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I don't know, bottom feeders style club.

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Speaker 2: So it's hard to say.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I did have Kentucky team total ass part

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of our parlay last week. It did get over they

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scored one hundred and seven, but Louisville's shown they can

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get to one.

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Speaker 2: Hundred as well.

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Speaker 5: My thoughts on the sideer this is a triple revenge

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spot for Louisville. I know, Brian, you quoted ats numbers

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over the last ten years, or seven and two last night.

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Whatever to Pat Kelsey. All that matters here is they

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got to win one. This is one of those like

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Ohio State, Michigan in football, Louisville Kentucky and basketball.

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Speaker 2: Same thing.

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Speaker 5: You come in, second year head coach. He did a

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good rebuild job last year. It's time to win one here.

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I think they can. I'm just not sure it can

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be by more than five and a half. At this point,

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I would have preferred the lower number. Obviously, it's difficult

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thing to say, we're not, you know, dropping any huge

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knowledge on anybody. To jump from three and a half

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to five and a half becomes pretty large. Now you

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have to win by a couple of triples or three buckets.

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backcourt matchup should be really really good here. I think

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it decided in the front court and maybe by turnovers

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guys in turnover numbers that I looked at early, it

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seems to me Louisville might be able to cause a

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little bit of trouble for Kentucky as far as that's concerned,

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and maybe points off turnovers just end up deciding it.

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Speaker 2: But I'm on the fence here. I think the number

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for me sidewise is gone.

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Speaker 5: I would have taken Louisville at three and a half opener,

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and where total is concerned, I think that's gone too.

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Now you're asking for one seventy five, one seventy six.

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throw fest that late or late in the game, which

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always helps the total. But I'm gonna lay off side

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the end total here.

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Speaker 1: So I'll just quickly address us. So, first of all,

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thank you Garth for the donation, and you can also

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just go to the website and it's five dollars Tuesday.

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So five dollars goes a long way a wager talk today,

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everyone's gonna have five dollars plays up. We also have

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is like three days of college hoops. I think it's

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like similar to the weekend Warrior Football Special, which like

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I've already got four plays locked in for college basketball today.

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This is like I went to and Oh last night

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and I decided the foot is going on the gas.

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We've got a week or so of data and I'm

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starting to trust like my reads and my numbers a

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little bit more than I did week one. So four

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plays up for me already, all three percenters. They will

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all probably more. I'm probably gonna add other things, but Garth,

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I'm just going to specifically answer your question right now.

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So for me, I agree with these guys. The number

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is gone in both on the side and the total

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of my opinion. I see you're asking me about the

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under now. I don't want to commit to an under

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full game or and under in a half, even though

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I do think that's probably where the value is. But

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three point shots in this game from both sides, especially

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from Louisville, who tends to you know, Pat Kelsey, Louisville

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tends to like to really shoot the three, and especially

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when they're in the when they're at their home gym,

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they've got the crowd on their side. I think they're

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more likely to do it. So what do we do, Guys?

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What do we know about teams or about a game

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that's gonna have a lot of three point shots. We

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know that there's likely like even if you you shoot

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the lights out, what are you hitting like forty fifty

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maybe at most? I mean if you have a game

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where you shoot sixty seventy percent from three, that, I

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mean that's a total outlier. So if I was going

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to try to bet an under in this game, I

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think I would do it after a hot stretch from three,

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and just because I think they're gonna take a lot

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of threes, and I try to buy right before that

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like lull of like you know, okay, well now they've

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missed four or five in a row, and then you

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get your little because that's the only way is scoring

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drought here in this game is few possessions where there's

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a couple of you know, missed threes and suddenly you've

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got a minute or two without scoring. There's gonna be

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a lot of shots, a lot of possessions, which is

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why I don't want to commit to a total and

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a half or the full game. But if you can

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buy in at a good time, at a good number,

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there will likely be a lull at some point, and

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you just got to try to pick out where it is.

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Hopefully that helped. We're going to move it along. Second

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sort of feature game that we're going to go to,

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and then it's going to be a total free for all.

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So jump in the comments, let us know what you

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want to hear about, and we'll get to as many

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as we can. But the second game I want to

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give the full treatment, and I'll go to Brian Power first.

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Texas Tech Illinois is going to be a tremendous game.

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Illinois unfortunately a couple of injuries that puts them in

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a little bit of tougher spot. But Brian, my kind

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of my first thing was like, well, I really like

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this Texas Tech team, but I feel like the books

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maybe got the injuries baked into the number here a

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little bit that being said, should still be a tremendous game.

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Texas Tech might actually be fully healthy. So how are

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you seeing this? When Red Raiders align on?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting, I really like Illinois trig I'll talk a

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little bit about them.

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Speaker 4: What they've done.

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Speaker 3: They made you know and they've again similar to our

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last game that we talked about, the Louisville Kentucky game,

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it's you have to take some of these numbers with

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the grain assault given the level of competition. But offensively

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Illinois they make seventeen to threes in the open against

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Jackson State. Then what do they do last Friday against

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Florida Gulf Coast. They attacked the rim at will. Both

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games they score one hundred and thirteen points. And here's

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a crazy number for you. Again, maybe take it with

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a grain of assault because of the level of opposition.

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But in their first two games, the aligne I had

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a one twelve to forty nine rebounding edge. That's no

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matter who you're playing, if you're playing a D one,

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if you against two D one college basketball teams, that's

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impressive on no matter what. Meanwhile, Texas Tech they were

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dealing with injuries as well. Trig for the four guys

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were out in the season opener against lynden Wood. Of

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course didn't matter to win that one by thirty eight.

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JT Toppin he comes back fridaygainst Sam Houston goes for

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thirty one and fourteen lawn watts. He returned, keep an

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eye on dot of an at well six three you

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come out eye popping numbers. How about six made threes

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each of the first two games. But you know, Illinois,

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I don't know. I'm high on the I think Illinois

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Can is gonna be one of the best teams in

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the country this year, playing at home.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna you know, I guess you have to debate

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how much the injuries matter. But I made this. I

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mean this number my raw power ratings.

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Speaker 3: I have a lot Illinois favored by more obviously than this,

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just on raw power ratings, and I leave my initial

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lean was towards the Illinois side. So I'm interested to hear,

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you know, the case for Texas Tech.

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Speaker 1: So I just want to follow up with what you're

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gonna say and then and then we'll go to Rob

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for his breakdown. I my number, like, I understand why

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the I saw a lot of the power ratings were

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very high on Illinois. But I like, that's to me

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where it's like, you're not gonna have Thomas Lavin a

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Visavic is sick at Jesus. It's gonna be a tough

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year with some of these names, he's I believe he's

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out for like the foreseeable future. I think that matters

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more in a matchup like this, where like Texas Tech's

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gonna be able to do some some things defensively that

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Illinois opponents to this point have not. Petrovic is still,

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I think, coming back from like a hamstring thing, but

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he's probably gonna play, and then there's at least one

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of their rotational pieces is out, So it's like for me,

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I think that's baked into the number. So I think

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that's why, you know, when you look at it's only

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four at home, I think full strength Illinois is more

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like six and a half or seven. Ultimately, I think

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that's gonna keep me off of this game because I

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feel like I'm not really getting out ahead of the

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injury sort of in news. But on the Texas Tech side,

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we did see like what you know, pretty much their

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starters altogether, at least for a little bit of last game,

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which is why I kind of lean Texas Tech. I

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think their defense is going to probably be like it's

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going to match up well with Illinois. But to your point, Brian,

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I wasn't in a rush to fade Illinois here either,

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So I didn't bet it, and we'll kind of see.

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I'll bring Robin to sort of hammer this one home,

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because that's about all I've got here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, guys, a few points you made already that are Adam.

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I'm like, you have papers all over the place on

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this desk with notes. I just I don't read notes

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off the computer. I'm scattered all over the place here.

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But Illinois, they're referred to as the overseas retention team.

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This year brought everybody back and everybody from overseas now

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the Twins Ivasich. I'm one of those guys that will

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go to YouTube to make sure I get pronunciations right

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on these guys. And another one for Illinois that I

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had to make sure I was right on this morning

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was Ben Humrick House, a guy who came back this

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year put on about twenty twenty five pounds. Head coach

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Brad Underwood thinks he's going to be a huge piece

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of this team. But Illinois and Texas Tech are mirror

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images in that particular area. They both have their course

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back here to Bryan's point about that one twelve to

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forty nine rebounding advantage held by Illinois so far, this season.

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It was my first concern because I want to play

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Texas Tech in this game. Texas Tech was small last

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year comparatively, and they still made a deep run. They're

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so scrappy on the boys. In my estimation, JT. Toppins

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is the best player on the floor. The point guard

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match here is going to be really, really good. I

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happen to like Christian Anderson from Texas Tech an awful lot.

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But on the Illinois side, Kylon Boswell, it's a great matchup.

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I guess they call them T and Z the Evasitch brothers.

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T is out, big Z is in, and he can

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stretch the floor.

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Speaker 2: Guys.

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Speaker 5: He was three of six from three point range. So

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when you have a seven foot two guy that can

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actually drag you outside, it becomes increasingly difficult to hit

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the boards. But my overall opinion on this is simple.

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It's interesting to watch the evolution of head coach Grant mccasly.

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Once upon a time he was the head coach of

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North Texas, running at the slowest tempo in the NCAA. Now,

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all of a sudden he lets his horses loose, and

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I think for Texas Tech, even though Illinois prefers it

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as well. I think Texas Tech needs to get a

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little bit open floor here to get some easy buckets.

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Don't let that rim protection set up against them. I

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think they can handle it. I think they can get

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to the free throw line. We'll see if the whistles

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go the home team's way. It's always a concern. I

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would look Texas Tech plus the points here simply based

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on the fact that they match up Illinois strengths. Other

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than the rebounding, I don't think they're better than Texas Tech.

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And for what it's worth, this is like an Elite

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eight matchup being played here on November eleventh, so we'll

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get to learn a lot. I take it to consideration

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the Illinois injuries a little bit.

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Speaker 2: If they're at full strength.

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Speaker 5: I don't know that I'd be thinking this way necessarily,

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but the line would probably be higher too. I'd like

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Texas Tech a little bit plus to four and a half.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. I'm closer to like with the

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injuries factored, and I'm closer to one on the number here,

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but I haven't been able to bring myself to click

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it yet. So to take that for you know, do

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what you will with that. If I if I loved it, it

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would already be in Let's just put it that way.

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I'm gonna gonna think what that would marinate. See if

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it see if it moves, I think if it moves,

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though it's going toward, I think it's gonna get worse.

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I could see this going off like Tech plus three

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and a half, maybe even plus three as that you know,

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the injuries sort of permeate through the market. But let's

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get I want to go to a couple of Sorry, Brian,

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did you have a follow up there? Look, let's go

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to I want to go. So we got a couple

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veterans in the chat that I want to recognize. First,

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Jay Buff that's our guy. He you know, I know

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he served many years. So thank you for your service,

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and thank you for your question because I wanted to

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talk about this game anyway. So I'm gonna go back

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to Rob. This is his conference. I do have an

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opinion here, but I'll let Rob kick it off. This

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is a very interesting game tonight. We have the Murray

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State Racers, who have very much looked the part. Early

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in the season. We got that great showcase game with

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them on Opening Night where they just blasted. I think

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it was Omaha, and I believe another cover for them

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on a big number over the weekend. And then we

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have the SMU Mustangs. Who are you know, favored here?

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And I suppose rightfully so, But Rob, I thought that

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number was big and I maybe have missed the number.

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At this point, I know you're in Ohio. I'm sorry

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a Missouri Valley guy. This game. This game is down

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in Texas at SMU. So talk to me, Murray State SMU.

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Is that number looking too big to you as well?

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Speaker 5: It looked too big to be Adam, In all honesty,

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Murray State's going. You know, they never really changed their identity, honestly,

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no matter who the head coach is there, and it

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hasn't been a swinging gait, but they've had a couple

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of different guys. No matter what, it's a team that's

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generally guard oriented and it's a team that plays really

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good defense. And so when you have those two, you know,

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the old saying defense travels SMU. To me, you're right

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that they should be. Obviously they're the better team on paper.

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But to me, SMU is one of those teams where

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it's a little sporadic offensively can be great, can be mediocre,

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and I don't know that the defense is always there.

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So when I saw thirteen and a half yesterday and

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then you know I was commenting with you guys earlier,

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we kind of lost the odds service for a while,

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and then this morning I see the downward movement to

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ten and a half. So I'm not gonna say that

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we lost the number here at them, because I think

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Murray State's got a built in toughness about them that's

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capable of covering this type of number. I didn't play it,

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but I understand where you're going with it, because I

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think Murray State, you know, this is not a venue again,

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and this happens at the end of the card tonight

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one more time. The Chattanooga to Saint Mary's road trip

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is kind of one thing when we take these mid

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majors and try to place them in foreign spots, But

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to go to Dallas, Texas and to play an sm

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u's atmosphere is not nearly as killer as something like

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out in Saint Mary's. So I don't think Murray State's

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going to be phased. They've been there, done that, They've

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been part of big games for a long time. I

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think they've got the ability to match up, so I

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would still.

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Speaker 2: Kind of lean that way.

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Speaker 5: But of course, once again, we would have rather had

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the thirteen and a half, and I think the smart

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guys picked off the better number.

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Speaker 3: And it's an interesting situation, guys, because we've got to

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it's the dog. They've covered the number both games. The

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favorite failed to cover the number both in each of

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the first two games, So you know that that's where

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I think that also probably has a lot to do

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with how the markets reacted here as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm with you, Rob, I was very

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interested at thirteen. That number was kind of gone quickly.

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I obviously smgu is going to be a favorite in

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this game at home, But I'm not a big Andy

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Enfield guy. When it comes to like in game coaching,

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I typically find myself lower than the market on his teams.

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This Murray State team has been very impressive on the

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defensive end as well, just playing extremely hard. I think

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there this is going to be I've said this a

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couple of times and I'll say it again. This is

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going to be a very good Missouri Valley Conference this year,

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and I think Murray State is going to be one

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of the teams that's near the top of that conference.

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So I made the number nine. It's down a ten

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and a half. I certainly think Murray State can hang

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in this game. I think they can handle SMU zone.

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So I have no reason to talk anyone off Murray

477
00:23:00,519 --> 00:23:04,480
State here other than I can't take it. I can't

478
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:05,799
take a ten and a half when I could have

479
00:23:05,799 --> 00:23:09,079
had a thirteen. And that's just my personal sort of

480
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:14,079
view on it that that's too big of like a

481
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,720
chance to get middled. So you never know, maybe try

482
00:23:17,799 --> 00:23:20,920
to grab this one in game. But all of my

483
00:23:21,079 --> 00:23:24,680
sort of data, my research watching these two teams points

484
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,799
to the Murray State side. Okay, let's get this one

485
00:23:27,799 --> 00:23:29,200
in here. I have an opinion on this one, and

486
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,079
I'll go to BP you see if he's got anything

487
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,200
to follow up, because this is an interesting game. Curtis,

488
00:23:35,279 --> 00:23:37,759
first of all, thank you for the donation and the question.

489
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,240
Curtis says, could you do the FSU game? FSU team

490
00:23:41,279 --> 00:23:43,400
total over seventy nine and a half looks good to me,

491
00:23:43,759 --> 00:23:46,359
and we'll get Rob's opinion on that as well. New

492
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,400
coach Lows. I've liked what I've seen from Lows I've

493
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,119
liked what I've seen from this FSU team wants to

494
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,000
play bass and shoot threes over forty percent from three

495
00:23:55,039 --> 00:23:56,839
point on the year. So a couple things here, But

496
00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,279
this is a game another one that's on my sort

497
00:24:00,279 --> 00:24:03,839
of next line down of games I am very strongly considering.

498
00:24:04,559 --> 00:24:08,240
I think Florida State's better than anyone is sort of

499
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:12,519
knows yet. Of course, new coach, you know, transition year

500
00:24:12,559 --> 00:24:15,880
after Leonard Hamilton forever and they sort of fell off.

501
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,680
I think they're projected close to the bottom of the ACC.

502
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,480
But I'm a little bit more i would say, bullish

503
00:24:21,559 --> 00:24:24,079
on Florida State than I think the market is. And

504
00:24:25,759 --> 00:24:28,079
I mean, this is this is I don't know if

505
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,440
I want to like be on camera saying this just yet,

506
00:24:30,759 --> 00:24:32,920
but like I just don't know. I'm gonna if I

507
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,640
buy the flanned Xavier Lee Xavian Lee thing for Florida,

508
00:24:37,039 --> 00:24:39,240
and I'm almost willing to say that Florida is gonna

509
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,119
come nowhere near to what they were last year. That

510
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,640
was what I was worried about, like proclaiming that and

511
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,039
then having Florida just be like just incredible and making

512
00:24:48,079 --> 00:24:52,000
me look stupid. I think Florida's pretty overvalued at this point,

513
00:24:52,039 --> 00:24:54,200
and then you talk about an opener of like fifteen

514
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,000
and a half that all the way up to nineteen

515
00:24:56,039 --> 00:24:59,119
and a half, Curtis, I make the number eighteen and

516
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,119
a half here with Florida State, and I've seen a

517
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,960
lot of stuff I like from them so far that

518
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,319
makes me think that they're going to stay within this number.

519
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:12,160
So again, strongly considering Florida State. Maybe it'll be my

520
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:13,759
parlay leg. But I'm going to give you two the

521
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,200
chance to talk me off of that, so Rob, you know, Rob,

522
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,039
I'll go to you first. Actually, you and I talked

523
00:25:19,039 --> 00:25:22,240
about Lee, you know, Zaby and Lee comes over from Princeton,

524
00:25:22,279 --> 00:25:26,119
maybe not being the best fit there in Florida. How

525
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,160
are you sort of rating Florida to this point?

526
00:25:29,559 --> 00:25:32,799
Speaker 5: Well, the Arizona game was you know, I think Brian

527
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,400
both called Arizona plus the points. I didn't know that

528
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,039
they would win out right, but I thought the game

529
00:25:37,079 --> 00:25:37,880
would be played close.

530
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,039
Speaker 2: The game was played close.

531
00:25:39,079 --> 00:25:41,799
Speaker 5: It's you know, here's what worries me about Florida State

532
00:25:41,799 --> 00:25:42,319
in this game.

533
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,799
Speaker 2: Guys, A they want to go fast.

534
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 5: I don't know that I want to go fast with

535
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,519
Florida b that Florida front court is going to dominate

536
00:25:50,599 --> 00:25:53,799
just about everybody they play. FSU doesn't match up in

537
00:25:53,839 --> 00:25:57,640
the front court here. I don't think Florida's biggs or

538
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,000
veteran Florida's bigs crash the boards. Florida A bigs can score,

539
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,319
Florida's bigs can defend. We don't know that much about

540
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,400
Florida State yet except they I wouldn't even say they've

541
00:26:07,559 --> 00:26:11,160
transformed styles because under Leonard Hamilton they played pretty quick

542
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,279
like they're playing. But they've played a pair of SWACK teams.

543
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,079
What do I read out of that? I'm not so

544
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:20,559
sure because the Swack is a defenseless league for the

545
00:26:20,599 --> 00:26:23,240
most part until they play each other. Then you know,

546
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:28,079
competition reads sort of competitive games. But when they're out

547
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,119
on the floor against a team like Florida State that

548
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,720
wants to run, they're not going to compete. So for me,

549
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,680
I would more or less choose to look at Florida

550
00:26:36,759 --> 00:26:40,359
team total in this game. Guys, I'm using odds logic

551
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,119
right now to try and pull it up so I

552
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,519
can make a real well, you know what, they're asking

553
00:26:45,559 --> 00:26:47,559
Florida to get to one hundred, so forget I even

554
00:26:47,599 --> 00:26:50,480
made that comment. But we're not gonna you know, we're

555
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,400
not going to bet teams to get to one hundred.

556
00:26:52,599 --> 00:26:54,480
We like when they get there and they're like eighty

557
00:26:54,559 --> 00:26:56,480
nine and a half or ninety, but we're not going

558
00:26:56,519 --> 00:26:59,680
to bet teams to get to one hundred. The price again, Adam,

559
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,799
we're talking talking about three games straight here where the

560
00:27:03,839 --> 00:27:06,519
price move matters. I think, you know, and I get

561
00:27:06,559 --> 00:27:10,920
these early college basketball lines year in a year out.

562
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 2: Generally they're pretty good. When the sharps get to these.

563
00:27:15,039 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 5: Totals and move them the way they have, they're generally

564
00:27:18,559 --> 00:27:21,920
smart moves early on. They become a little iffy later.

565
00:27:22,519 --> 00:27:27,200
But right now, I wouldn't argue with I wouldn't argue

566
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,319
with the move towards Florida. I just wouldn't lay it

567
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,200
at this price and you got to win by twenty.

568
00:27:31,759 --> 00:27:34,720
I know it's a rivalry. Who's to say at the

569
00:27:34,799 --> 00:27:38,079
end of the game, FSU at that pace, the way

570
00:27:38,079 --> 00:27:40,200
they want to shoot threes, Who's to say that they

571
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,440
don't get a back door three or something, so.

572
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 2: I'm off the game. But that would be my concern

573
00:27:45,279 --> 00:27:45,599
at them.

574
00:27:45,599 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 5: I concern would be schedule played by FSU schedule played

575
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,680
by Florida and the bigs in this game.

576
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 2: I just think Florida's bigs are that good.

577
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,079
Speaker 3: So I think this number looks way too high. I

578
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,480
would concur with you, Trigg, what you were saying there.

579
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:04,079
My concern though, for the Florida State side is this

580
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:09,359
Florida has not shot the three well at all. You

581
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,319
brought up maybe and we've all brought up I think,

582
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,200
you know, going to the opener, did do we like

583
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,000
how the backcourt was gonna mesh? But like that's the

584
00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:19,599
concern for floor, Like what if Florida starts making threes?

585
00:28:19,759 --> 00:28:22,559
You know, they're they were six for they were six

586
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,039
for thirty two from three in the last game and

587
00:28:25,079 --> 00:28:28,000
they put up one point three points per possession against

588
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,519
an overmatch team. I think that's like, you know, it's

589
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,000
that seems to be the common theme for today's show,

590
00:28:33,079 --> 00:28:35,880
right that there's a lot of teams coming off you know,

591
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,680
they whipped lesser opponents. Now their face, you know, what

592
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,160
do we take from that? Is that fools gold or not?

593
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,079
But that would, I guess be my concern with backing

594
00:28:45,079 --> 00:28:48,079
Florida State. What if Florida has a night has a

595
00:28:48,119 --> 00:28:50,160
decent night from three because to Rob's point, you know,

596
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,640
Rob brought up the idea of all Florida could put

597
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,759
points on the board. Okay, well, here's a team that averaged,

598
00:28:55,839 --> 00:28:58,359
you know, one point three points per possession despite shooting

599
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,640
six for thirty two from three. If those threes fall,

600
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,039
my god, I mean, the sky would be the limit

601
00:29:04,079 --> 00:29:04,480
for that team.

602
00:29:04,519 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: Offensively, Yeah, I kind of ultimately, like listen, I had

603
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,799
a chance to click nineteen and a half. I didn't.

604
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,200
It's got that back down a little bit. At this point,

605
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,640
my number was eighteen and a half. So even though

606
00:29:16,799 --> 00:29:18,839
I have a pretty strong opinion here, I didn't show

607
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,640
enough value to make a bet. Just to go back

608
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:25,759
at Curtis's original question, I don't dislike the Florida State

609
00:29:25,799 --> 00:29:28,119
team total over because to Bryan's point, if some of

610
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,119
those threes start falling for Florida and they are down

611
00:29:31,279 --> 00:29:34,160
like fifteen to twenty, my gut tells me that this

612
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,839
team is gonna play for laps like they looked like.

613
00:29:38,039 --> 00:29:40,960
If I caught some of Florida's opener, I think they

614
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,240
played like alcorn State, but like they were very engaged

615
00:29:44,279 --> 00:29:46,599
for forty minutes, and I think if they are like that.

616
00:29:46,759 --> 00:29:49,599
In this game, they will hit that team total over.

617
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,440
They'll get to eighty. Even if Florida does drop one

618
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,599
hundred plus, they'll still get to eighty. So I think

619
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,039
your read on over Florida State team total is a

620
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:06,200
good one. I don't disagree with that. Alright, let's yeah,

621
00:30:06,279 --> 00:30:08,640
we gotta so. I've got a couple opinions here. I'll

622
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,960
throw it to you guys. First. I could probably talk

623
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,680
about both of these games, but I know people are

624
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,759
asking about this. We have a couple of day games today,

625
00:30:15,799 --> 00:30:19,240
Dougie Fresh says, any insight into the afternoon games that's

626
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,920
gonna be Iona and the Kangaroos Brian of Missouri City.

627
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,759
That is a home game for them. And then we've

628
00:30:26,759 --> 00:30:30,480
got l i U out in at air Force. I

629
00:30:30,519 --> 00:30:35,519
believe as a favorite the Northeast Conference Long Island Sharks

630
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,759
are favored against air Force. Just just how far air

631
00:30:39,799 --> 00:30:43,519
Force has fallen. So you guys can You're both welcome

632
00:30:43,599 --> 00:30:45,240
to pass. It just means the folks are gonna have

633
00:30:45,279 --> 00:30:46,960
to listen to me ramble a little bit more. But

634
00:30:47,119 --> 00:30:49,680
either any anything on either of those.

635
00:30:50,079 --> 00:30:52,839
Speaker 4: I'll tackle LU air Force. How about that? If that's okay?

636
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 3: Rob, I'll tackle that one, because you know we've already

637
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,799
mentioned on the show before collectively that it could be

638
00:30:59,799 --> 00:31:02,400
a very long season in Colorado Springs this year for

639
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,200
air Force. Obviously, this is a team that can't do

640
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:06,559
anything in the transfer portal.

641
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,559
Speaker 4: You know, they lose at home by twenty to Austin p.

642
00:31:13,559 --> 00:31:17,319
Speaker 3: They're not shooting well at all from anywhere, including below

643
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,599
fifty percent from the free throw line. This team that

644
00:31:19,599 --> 00:31:22,799
they're turning the ball over a lot as well, and

645
00:31:22,799 --> 00:31:26,279
they're playing and this is a double whammie. When you're

646
00:31:26,279 --> 00:31:28,359
playing at one of the slowest tempos in the country

647
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,920
and you've got a really high turnover rate, that just

648
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,319
is a disaster. Really now, it is pretty cood. I

649
00:31:35,319 --> 00:31:38,880
mean it speaks volumes that l Iu even it would

650
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,160
be a road favorite against anybody. I think that says

651
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,720
more about the current state of Air Force.

652
00:31:43,599 --> 00:31:46,359
Speaker 1: Are taking money as we speak, it's up to four

653
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:46,839
and a half.

654
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a lot, man.

655
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,559
Speaker 3: I you know, a team that's on a cust I mean,

656
00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:53,079
and you know that's not a short bus trip either

657
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,759
from Long Island to Colorado Springs, guys, I mean that's

658
00:31:55,839 --> 00:32:00,079
you know, but you can't play air I guess. I

659
00:32:00,119 --> 00:32:03,200
guess my professional take would be, you can't take air

660
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:09,079
Force right now against anybody. Initially, I thought kind of

661
00:32:09,079 --> 00:32:11,160
Long Island money line when I when I marked this

662
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,559
game down before we went live, before obviously the number move.

663
00:32:14,839 --> 00:32:17,519
My initial thought was Long Island's going to win this

664
00:32:17,559 --> 00:32:22,680
basketball game game air Force. But their concern too, I

665
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,839
think if I wrote this up, yeah, so maybe an

666
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,039
under because I talked about air Force's band free throw

667
00:32:28,119 --> 00:32:31,240
shooting him a moment ago below fifty percent for the year.

668
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,000
Long Island's missed twenty three free throws in their first

669
00:32:35,039 --> 00:32:39,079
two games. Always something to consider free throws shooting when

670
00:32:39,119 --> 00:32:39,920
you're betting a total.

671
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,759
Speaker 1: Keith, I will I'm gonna go and to Rob, I

672
00:32:43,839 --> 00:32:45,880
just want to just he. Keith says, this is the

673
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,519
third year they've played yet. The first one I went

674
00:32:48,599 --> 00:32:51,440
to it was at l IU. So air Force came

675
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,960
and played a Veteran's day like day game down at

676
00:32:54,039 --> 00:32:57,279
LU in Brooklyn. I went to that game. And then

677
00:32:57,359 --> 00:33:00,119
last year LU did go out and get that I'm

678
00:33:00,119 --> 00:33:01,839
at air Force and they must have owed him two

679
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,359
return games and it is and I made the number

680
00:33:05,359 --> 00:33:07,440
three and it's up to four. I've got nothing else

681
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,079
to say about this game, but I'll bring Rob in

682
00:33:09,119 --> 00:33:10,440
for his thoughts on either of these.

683
00:33:11,359 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, and guys, that final was sixty three to fifty four,

684
00:33:14,839 --> 00:33:19,119
one seventeen total in that LU air Force game last year,

685
00:33:19,119 --> 00:33:22,160
And those are a couple of the concerns that I

686
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,279
would bring up here.

687
00:33:24,599 --> 00:33:25,839
Speaker 2: With LU A.

688
00:33:27,319 --> 00:33:29,599
Speaker 5: You know, with Rod Strickland, they just want to get

689
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,720
up and down the floor really fast. Air Force wants

690
00:33:31,759 --> 00:33:32,440
to slow you down.

691
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:33,519
Speaker 2: So just by.

692
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,559
Speaker 5: Going back over last year's result, we see who controlled

693
00:33:38,559 --> 00:33:39,039
the tempo.

694
00:33:39,599 --> 00:33:41,559
Speaker 2: Air Force controlled the tempo. LU.

695
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 5: It didn't get out of hand. It's at play at altitude.

696
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,480
You always wonder about these teams from the Northeast that

697
00:33:47,559 --> 00:33:49,240
want to run. Of course, last year a little bit

698
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,880
of adjustment to it, but altitude has its problems for

699
00:33:53,039 --> 00:33:57,319
a team like LU as well. I kind of feel

700
00:33:57,359 --> 00:33:59,960
like there's a way air Force can stay within four

701
00:34:00,039 --> 00:34:00,680
and a half here.

702
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,359
Speaker 2: It's been a heck of an early season.

703
00:34:03,519 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 5: Eight days for LU go to Notre Dame play IU Indianapolis,

704
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,039
where that's the number one pace team in the country.

705
00:34:13,079 --> 00:34:17,840
So that styles fit for LIU. This style isn't. I

706
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,679
did watch air Force because I played Belmont against them again.

707
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,239
It was part of our parlay last week. Belmont hung

708
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,679
on lay fifteen and a half win by sixteen. It

709
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,159
wasn't as easy as it looked, and at halftime I

710
00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:33,400
believe it was only a two point Belmont lead. So

711
00:34:33,639 --> 00:34:36,440
I think air Force has some redeeming qualities. I know

712
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,079
when we covered that Belmont Air Force game, we talked

713
00:34:40,079 --> 00:34:43,079
about the personnel losses and how maybe they would be

714
00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:45,880
one of the worst teams in the nation. When I

715
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,000
watched them in that game, I didn't really see that.

716
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,159
And that's Belmont's a better team than LU guys. And

717
00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:53,480
to be on the road at Belmont and play within

718
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,800
a half point of the number. I'm not going to

719
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,280
argue with the Sharps who seemed to think Liu is

720
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,119
a solid play I hear, But I'm gonna say I

721
00:35:02,119 --> 00:35:04,519
think there's a way air Force hangs within this. You know,

722
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,360
what's now a four and a half number.

723
00:35:07,519 --> 00:35:09,679
Speaker 1: You know there certainly is. It's still I mean, listen,

724
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,400
it's still Joe Scott as the head coach. He's coached.

725
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,159
I believe this is stint number two, not nearly as

726
00:35:15,159 --> 00:35:18,000
successful as Stint number one at air Force, But you know,

727
00:35:18,039 --> 00:35:21,679
he's gonna run that Princeton offense. They're always if you've

728
00:35:21,679 --> 00:35:24,840
watched I've watched probably more air Force basketball over the

729
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,079
last few years, and I care to admit it's not that,

730
00:35:27,519 --> 00:35:30,280
you know, it's not the prettiest watch, but I will

731
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,639
say that, like when that air Force offense clicks a

732
00:35:33,639 --> 00:35:36,840
little bit, it can be esthetically pleasing. They'll hit a

733
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,960
back door screen and it's like the problem is they

734
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,320
just don't have guys that can put the ball in

735
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,320
the basket. But listen, l Iu at at points in

736
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,039
time this year will drop a game to like a

737
00:35:46,159 --> 00:35:48,960
Mercy Hurst or a Lamoye like that. You know, you

738
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,119
still have to understand that LU is probably not going

739
00:35:51,199 --> 00:35:53,599
to run the table in the Northeast Conference, like they

740
00:35:53,639 --> 00:35:56,719
will undoubtedly like come up here to Syracuse and lose

741
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,079
to like a Lamoine and lose or lose to like

742
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:03,760
a Mercy lose to you know, like a Fairleigh Dickinson

743
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,400
or something like that. Is air Force better than those teams?

744
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,920
Like probably, like even though it's you know, even though

745
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,800
we're gonna sit here and drag them, Like if you

746
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,199
were to throw air Force in the Northeast Conference, they're

747
00:36:14,559 --> 00:36:17,320
probably one of the favorites to win it. Like, that's

748
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,679
what we're dealing with here. So even though LU is

749
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,559
a very good team, they've got to go out west.

750
00:36:22,199 --> 00:36:25,280
It's a it's an earlier tip time, and if you

751
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,480
know it's it's just not a given that they're gonna win.

752
00:36:27,559 --> 00:36:30,159
I would not lay four and a half. I just

753
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,320
don't know if I have the stones to take the

754
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,760
points from air force, Like that's the only way I

755
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,400
would play it at this point, though, I'll quickly touch

756
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,000
on the other game. So IONA is gonna go out

757
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,119
and play a true road game at one pm at

758
00:36:43,119 --> 00:36:45,880
Missouri Kansas City. What I can tell you about IONA

759
00:36:46,679 --> 00:36:50,079
is they have a new so new head coach, Dan Jiau,

760
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,719
who is who comes and he's an NBA assistant from

761
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,840
somewhere I forget where, but he comes in and he's

762
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,599
very much revamping like IONA basketball. I heard him talk

763
00:36:59,639 --> 00:37:03,039
a couple of times over the summer, and and his

764
00:37:03,039 --> 00:37:06,920
his words led me to believe that this would that

765
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,960
they were like in like a little bit of a

766
00:37:09,039 --> 00:37:12,360
year zero type scenario where it was like, let's rip

767
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,519
this down and do things the right way. Like I

768
00:37:14,559 --> 00:37:17,480
almost felt like some of the things he said, were

769
00:37:17,519 --> 00:37:20,639
like him sort of subtily being like, don't come at

770
00:37:20,679 --> 00:37:22,920
me if we lose our first couple of games. Right like,

771
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,119
it was like, hey, this is a this is gonna

772
00:37:25,159 --> 00:37:30,039
take some time. Now. They came out and throttled Hofstruck

773
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,519
just absolutely rare. I mean, it was like twenty two

774
00:37:32,599 --> 00:37:35,039
to four in the first couple of minutes. But then

775
00:37:35,039 --> 00:37:38,039
I had to you know, they kind of they held on.

776
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,159
It was a comfortable margin of victory, but I had

777
00:37:40,199 --> 00:37:43,079
to sort of like go back and say, you know

778
00:37:43,159 --> 00:37:46,159
they were home. Did they just like ride some insanely

779
00:37:46,199 --> 00:37:48,199
hot shooting to like a twenty point lead and it

780
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,840
was good enough to like hold on. I would play

781
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,960
against them here, especially at the current number you're getting four.

782
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,920
I don't know enough about UMKC to like love my

783
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,760
opinion on this team, but where I have the number,

784
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,920
I made the number one. So for what it's worth,

785
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,400
I make Iona a one point favorite on the road here,

786
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:11,719
and I'll probably give some thought to taking the four

787
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,599
with UMKC. You could still get a four and a

788
00:38:14,639 --> 00:38:18,320
half at FanDuel. I'm gonna think about this one probably

789
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,360
for the next hour or two, but there is some

790
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,599
appeal to me for fading Iona first road game, true

791
00:38:24,679 --> 00:38:26,480
road game have to go out to the Midwest where

792
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,480
they don't you know, I feel like they don't typically

793
00:38:28,559 --> 00:38:31,239
leave the Northeast very often, so it just seems like

794
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,239
a weird spot. And I still go back to what

795
00:38:33,559 --> 00:38:37,079
Jarrow said about, like, hey, I want to like really

796
00:38:37,119 --> 00:38:39,800
do things my way, keep it simple for them early

797
00:38:40,519 --> 00:38:42,719
that was a stunning result to me that they just

798
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,079
mopped the floor with Hofstra. I thought Hawstro would win

799
00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:45,519
that game.

800
00:38:48,639 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 3: Kansas City might be bad defensively, I think it would

801
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,639
be my concern. The one thing that you know, I'm

802
00:38:53,679 --> 00:38:57,000
looking at like teams were not taking a long time

803
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,360
to shoot against them first two games, and they were

804
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,880
making a lot of them. So I don't know. To me,

805
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,360
I don't know this Kansas City looks bad. I'll be

806
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,199
honest with you. I was actually when I figure people

807
00:39:09,199 --> 00:39:10,719
because it was a daycame were to ask about this,

808
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,440
I actually kind of, you know, leaned a little bit

809
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,079
towards the Iona side transfer c j anthon you have

810
00:39:16,079 --> 00:39:19,519
to player to watch there, So I don't know. I

811
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,239
thought I thought it was more of a play against

812
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,159
Kansas City, I guess, than anything else. Trag I just

813
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:26,719
I don't know. It seems that it might be a

814
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,960
long year on the defensive end for them for the root.

815
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,679
Speaker 1: And I just want to and I just want to

816
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,719
sort of mention. Then I'll go to Rob, I'm about

817
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,039
to put you on the spot for your your parlay legs,

818
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,159
just giving you a thirty second heads up unless you

819
00:39:39,159 --> 00:39:41,840
want to chime into this game after I'm done here.

820
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,519
But like for me, like I want to make it

821
00:39:43,599 --> 00:39:47,079
very clear, like it would be an Iona fade for me,

822
00:39:47,199 --> 00:39:49,760
Like that's it, like I and that's ultimately why it

823
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,559
might miss my card. It's like I don't feel like

824
00:39:52,639 --> 00:39:55,559
I have a good enough gauge about UMKC basketball at

825
00:39:55,599 --> 00:39:58,280
this point to like confidently bet this game. I just

826
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,760
know that I'm going to look for spot to fatee

827
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,280
Iona because of what I sort of heard coming into

828
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,960
the season and then them looking like the you know,

829
00:40:07,039 --> 00:40:09,320
the Monstars or whoever you know, Like they look look

830
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,880
like the Space Jam team for the first fifteen minutes

831
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:14,840
or ten minutes of that game, and I think they

832
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,920
were able to just sort of ride that to a

833
00:40:18,559 --> 00:40:21,400
very impressive win that I'm not I'm not fully ready

834
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:25,199
to buy. So so you MKC or passed for me. Rob,

835
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,079
I just realized, like, it's we've got about twenty minutes

836
00:40:28,119 --> 00:40:30,519
to go. So if you don't have your parlay leg

837
00:40:30,599 --> 00:40:32,920
figured out yet, don't worry about it. We can come

838
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,519
back to you. But if you do, I want to

839
00:40:34,559 --> 00:40:35,840
give you the floor to get you in on the

840
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:36,559
discussion here.

841
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're gonna love this one, Adam, because we've discussed

842
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,079
it as long as.

843
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,199
Speaker 2: Three weeks ago, maybe a month ago. But I'm all

844
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:45,360
in on Santa Barbara.

845
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 5: Tonight minus nine and a half against Sacramento State, we

846
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,800
talked about Mike Bibby's team being somewhat of a.

847
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 2: I don't know, a troublesome unit. This year.

848
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:02,159
Speaker 5: They played two games against again non teams against Jessup

849
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,360
that their largest win in a half was by six points.

850
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,159
They won the first half by four, they won the

851
00:41:08,199 --> 00:41:11,119
second half by six. It's a team with fourteen brand

852
00:41:11,119 --> 00:41:13,599
new players. Mike Bibbie trying to round it all up

853
00:41:14,039 --> 00:41:17,559
the Santa Barbara side. First of all, they're always good

854
00:41:17,679 --> 00:41:22,400
under Pasternick, but you add Aiden Mahoney from Saint Mary's

855
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,760
to this team, that's crazy good, A crazy good pick

856
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,679
up for a team like Cal Santa Barbara, who's gonna

857
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,920
run The top five or five of the top six

858
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,079
in that unit are all juniors and seniors. There are

859
00:41:35,159 --> 00:41:39,480
number six already in the nation in the field goal

860
00:41:39,519 --> 00:41:43,320
efficiency effective field goal percentage. So I just don't see

861
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,719
any way they don't win by double digits here at him.

862
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,320
It's not that excruciating of a road trip, and it's

863
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,719
not a devastating venue to walk into, the Hornets Nest

864
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,920
in Sacramento State. So give me you see Santa Barbara

865
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:57,679
minus what I think now is nine and a half

866
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,400
because money's gotten to this. The opener was seven and

867
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,440
a half. I wouldn't be surprised. If you know it's

868
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,559
a late game, it probably goes even higher. So locked

869
00:42:06,679 --> 00:42:10,400
now you see Santa Barbara minus nine and a half.

870
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think. I think Shaq is involved with the program.

871
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,280
I think his son, the one that was at Florida

872
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,000
A and m transferred there. There's some interesting players on

873
00:42:19,039 --> 00:42:21,559
the roster. My concern and I think it is what

874
00:42:21,599 --> 00:42:24,679
you've already outlined, like Mike Baby didn't really hire any

875
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,159
like respectable assistance. It's it's like him who was coaching

876
00:42:28,199 --> 00:42:33,119
like high school basketball and then like just a ragtag

877
00:42:33,159 --> 00:42:35,800
group of assistant coaches. Like I just I can't see

878
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,320
how that works out unless they just have absolute ballers.

879
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,000
But like I'm with you, Brian, I mean, I just

880
00:42:42,039 --> 00:42:44,000
like I'll throw this out there. It's really not an

881
00:42:44,039 --> 00:42:47,480
actuable item, but you could get two teams out of

882
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,400
the Big West this year, like Irvine and UCSB both

883
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,920
look to be like teams that like one of those

884
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,239
teams could earn an at large bit this year. So

885
00:42:55,519 --> 00:42:56,480
I can't put you off that.

886
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,119
Speaker 3: I always feel that we say that every year about

887
00:42:59,159 --> 00:43:01,239
the Big West, like, oh, I love two teams to

888
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,199
get in and then you know, March rolls around and

889
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,159
maybe one of them falters. I feel that that's not

890
00:43:05,199 --> 00:43:08,360
the first time we've had this cut. Yeah, collect that's.

891
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 1: The ncaaa's fault though, because there should have been too

892
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,480
last year. Irvine deserved to go last year along with

893
00:43:13,639 --> 00:43:18,719
w you see San Diego. In my opinions, Brian, I'll

894
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,400
go to you, do you want to do you want

895
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,679
to hit us with a little promo and then maybe

896
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,119
do you have your parlay Lake.

897
00:43:24,519 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 3: I am actually dutifully putting my parlay leg together. Let's

898
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:33,119
get the promo out first, though, because you mentioned it earlier, Treg,

899
00:43:33,159 --> 00:43:34,199
I should have my mouse.

900
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 4: Plugged it for the show. Much worse when I use

901
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:37,519
the camera for that spot.

902
00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:41,519
Speaker 3: But you talked about how guys, if you've been using

903
00:43:41,519 --> 00:43:44,920
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904
00:43:45,639 --> 00:43:47,360
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905
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,480
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906
00:43:51,679 --> 00:43:56,199
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907
00:43:56,199 --> 00:43:59,360
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908
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,840
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909
00:44:02,159 --> 00:44:04,639
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910
00:44:05,199 --> 00:44:08,639
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911
00:44:08,679 --> 00:44:11,599
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912
00:44:11,599 --> 00:44:14,239
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913
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:18,119
Speaker 4: That's NBA in college. Forty nine dollars for every.

914
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 3: Basketball play from your handicapper choice for three days. That's

915
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:25,880
not any of our pages right now. This play will

916
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,840
not cost you a dime. It will be my portion

917
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:29,519
of the parlay.

918
00:44:29,599 --> 00:44:30,519
Speaker 4: Leg I'm gonna go.

919
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,199
Speaker 3: Didn't hit it last I Trigg high scoring second half

920
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,360
killed doomed us in the Kent State game. Kent State

921
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,119
better from three than I anticipated this year, and that

922
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:42,599
was what doomed me.

923
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 4: But we're gonna go back to another under.

924
00:44:44,679 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 3: And it's gonna be more Head State Clemson under this total.

925
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:53,039
The over is taking money here, and it's at one

926
00:44:53,119 --> 00:44:56,599
forty seven and a half as I speak. I think

927
00:44:56,639 --> 00:44:59,400
there is now some value at pushing back on the market.

928
00:45:00,559 --> 00:45:02,519
Has put up big point totals in its first two

929
00:45:02,559 --> 00:45:05,119
games eighty eight and ninety seven, but those were against

930
00:45:05,159 --> 00:45:08,239
New Hampshire and Gardner Web. Morehead State guys is a

931
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:12,599
team that can clean up the glass. Uh defensively, I

932
00:45:12,599 --> 00:45:15,159
think they can limit second chances here. This is a

933
00:45:15,159 --> 00:45:17,199
game I just think. I just think that this total move.

934
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,199
This is one we've talked about in the first week

935
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:24,000
plus of the show. Sometimes, Hey, it doesn't matter if

936
00:45:24,039 --> 00:45:25,599
you bet the game at six in the morning or

937
00:45:25,639 --> 00:45:28,400
six at night. You're cashing on these totals, whether you

938
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,199
get the best of the worst number. This is one

939
00:45:30,199 --> 00:45:33,079
where I think it's heading in the wrong direction. I'm

940
00:45:33,119 --> 00:45:38,039
going under Morehead State Clemson for my portion.

941
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,559
Speaker 1: Of the parlay, and can you just give me that

942
00:45:40,679 --> 00:45:48,119
number one more time? Ave Morehead Clemson under one forty

943
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:52,559
seven and a half. All right. If you were going

944
00:45:52,599 --> 00:45:55,199
to the game, I would say, it's no brainer. Yeah,

945
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,719
you know, we'll have to Like Brian, I was watching

946
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,760
that Ken State What Willing Can game last night, and

947
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,519
I was like, in my head, I was like, if

948
00:46:02,559 --> 00:46:04,800
we were there, he'd find a way to kill this

949
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,840
this pace somehow. Yeah, I mean you had like I

950
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:09,880
think you had like five points of cld on on

951
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,599
the closing number on that one went.

952
00:46:11,519 --> 00:46:14,599
Speaker 3: On, which which sometimes I feel is always the kiss

953
00:46:14,639 --> 00:46:16,079
of death. I don't know, Like I know a lot

954
00:46:16,079 --> 00:46:17,719
of people love to do a little dance when they

955
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,280
have that. For me, I'm always like, oh no, you know, yeah,

956
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,199
because it did. I think it closed five and a half.

957
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:24,960
We gave it out at one sixty and a half.

958
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:26,719
So I was like, oh no.

959
00:46:28,599 --> 00:46:30,159
Speaker 5: All right, I'll get you just I know what he

960
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,679
clarified real quick, Adam, Just because I gave you a

961
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,239
number of nine and a half, which was the number

962
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,760
when we came on the air in that Santa Barber game.

963
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 2: That number is currently eight and a half.

964
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,159
Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, we have a lot of yet, I

965
00:46:44,159 --> 00:46:44,480
don't know.

966
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 5: Looking at the line movements, it changed about fifty five

967
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,480
minutes ago from nine and a half bet all the

968
00:46:50,519 --> 00:46:53,159
way up to ten and then some take back.

969
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:54,119
Speaker 2: Now at eight and a half.

970
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 4: Wow, they're bet.

971
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,079
Speaker 1: Not possible for anyone to bet the parlay yet because

972
00:46:59,079 --> 00:47:00,880
they don't know the third leg, so we can we

973
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,000
will go. We've been sort of going with like what

974
00:47:03,039 --> 00:47:05,119
it is at the end of the show and uh yeah,

975
00:47:05,159 --> 00:47:07,320
so eight and a half is good there, We've got

976
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,920
one forty seven and a half on the uh the

977
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:14,440
morehead Clemson under and I will so we've got thirteen

978
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,840
minutes of the show left. I will uh, I reckon up.

979
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 4: I just jump in real quick trick because this is crazy.

980
00:47:20,559 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 3: This Louisville people are betting Louisville like they know the

981
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:24,320
final score right now.

982
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:28,159
Speaker 4: This numbers up the six and a half at this

983
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:28,920
that's insane.

984
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw that. That was it's been that. It's

985
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,480
been like that for a little bit yet. Bit you

986
00:47:32,559 --> 00:47:35,320
have to think. You have to think someone comes in

987
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,039
and takes Kentucky at some point, but.

988
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,639
Speaker 4: Maybe Mark Pope is doing Jerry duty. I don't know.

989
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:46,599
Speaker 1: That is yeah, that is. I saw that. The guy

990
00:47:46,599 --> 00:47:50,159
that keeps breaking those like fake stories like it has

991
00:47:50,199 --> 00:47:52,840
like Sunny Courtland alum in his bio, which I think

992
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,239
is funny. That's where Mallory went to undergrad and that's

993
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,239
where like it's like very close to where the three

994
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,000
school up here in Central New York. So I got

995
00:48:00,119 --> 00:48:03,639
a good, good laugh at that. I'm gonna close the

996
00:48:03,639 --> 00:48:06,039
parley out. So Brian, you know, sometimes people are like Trigg,

997
00:48:06,119 --> 00:48:10,280
You're you're you're out at games. You're you're better served

998
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,599
behind the computer screen for us, you know, we don't

999
00:48:12,639 --> 00:48:15,280
know why you're going all over, you know, to all

1000
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,519
these different games. What does that really what does that

1001
00:48:17,599 --> 00:48:19,760
really do? And and so a couple of things. One

1002
00:48:20,519 --> 00:48:24,599
people were saying that every once in a while one

1003
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,159
I get to make some cool content too. I do

1004
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,800
enjoy going to basketball games and getting to see the

1005
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,360
different arenas, getting to experience like what a game is

1006
00:48:33,519 --> 00:48:36,679
like at a Toledo as opposed to like a Bowling

1007
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,000
Green as opposed to like going to a game like

1008
00:48:39,039 --> 00:48:41,400
Brian and I went to on Saturday night, Top twenty

1009
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:45,000
five sold out one of the sort of pre you know,

1010
00:48:45,119 --> 00:48:48,119
best venues in the country for college basketball, at the

1011
00:48:48,159 --> 00:48:51,239
Breslin Center. But and I talked about this to Brian.

1012
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,719
We were in the car a lot together this weekend,

1013
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,039
so we had a lot of time to chat. I

1014
00:48:56,079 --> 00:48:59,360
feel like I learned some very actionable stuff when when

1015
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,320
I go to games like this, and so I'm gonna

1016
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,840
give you one of my client plays tonight, and the

1017
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:08,199
breakdown is heavily like something that I feel like I

1018
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,639
picked up this weekend when Brian and I were in

1019
00:49:10,679 --> 00:49:14,519
Toledo watching Toledo and Marshall. So three percent play for me,

1020
00:49:14,559 --> 00:49:15,840
it's one of my client plays.

1021
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:16,119
Speaker 2: Today.

1022
00:49:16,159 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 1: I took the Toledo Rockets plus five and a half.

1023
00:49:19,039 --> 00:49:22,480
And the reason that I like Toledo to bounce back

1024
00:49:22,519 --> 00:49:25,360
here is I think they are finally going to get

1025
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:29,719
to see something other than a really good zone defense.

1026
00:49:30,039 --> 00:49:32,400
So the first two games of the year, they played

1027
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:36,480
South Alabama and they played Marshall, and you know, Brian

1028
00:49:36,519 --> 00:49:38,719
and I got to go to this little sort of

1029
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,599
we got to hear the Todd Father, Todd Kualcik, their

1030
00:49:42,639 --> 00:49:46,000
head coach, sort of address some of the season ticket

1031
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,840
holders and stuff and talk about the game before the game.

1032
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,639
I sort of listened to some of his postgame comments

1033
00:49:51,679 --> 00:49:54,920
as well after the fact, and it sounds to me

1034
00:49:55,599 --> 00:49:59,519
like they really like would love to see something other

1035
00:49:59,559 --> 00:50:03,360
than his zone. And even if Wright State can put

1036
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,000
them in any sort of zone. Craig Sargent is gonna

1037
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,960
make them a bet, like he's really emphasizing defense for

1038
00:50:09,039 --> 00:50:11,280
Right State this year, and I do like that Right

1039
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,599
State team, but there is no way. So one of

1040
00:50:13,639 --> 00:50:16,280
two things is gonna happen here. Either they're gonna go

1041
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,840
zone Right State and it's going to be worse than

1042
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,440
the South Alabama zone that's very good, or Marshall zone,

1043
00:50:23,599 --> 00:50:26,519
which is now anchored by the seven foot four Matthew

1044
00:50:26,599 --> 00:50:29,599
van Coman, which is like a very unique scenario. How

1045
00:50:29,599 --> 00:50:31,719
many teams are you gonna find in the country that

1046
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,239
can anchor a zone with a seven foot four rim

1047
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,440
protector who's also become a very very good shot blocker,

1048
00:50:37,599 --> 00:50:40,239
very very good rebounder, like he kind of is the

1049
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,079
total package at this level. So either Right State is

1050
00:50:43,079 --> 00:50:44,679
going to try to play zone and not do it

1051
00:50:44,679 --> 00:50:47,440
as well as the other two teams, or they're gonna go,

1052
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,639
which is more their traditional defense, man to man, and

1053
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,800
I think Toledo will just be thanking the heavens that

1054
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,079
they're finally gonna see some man to man, which I

1055
00:50:56,119 --> 00:50:59,440
think they match up better again. So you've got Toledo

1056
00:50:59,519 --> 00:51:02,360
coming in Ozho and too too home. Two losses on

1057
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,880
their home court, which is like probably a little uncharacteristic.

1058
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:07,239
I don't think this is going to be a great

1059
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,159
Toledo team. I think they're a middling team in the

1060
00:51:09,199 --> 00:51:11,840
MAC this year. But you mean to tell me I

1061
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,360
can get five and a half points, Brian and I

1062
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,119
have not been to the Nutter Center yet, but I

1063
00:51:16,159 --> 00:51:18,239
don't think there's gonna be like some sort of crazy

1064
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:22,880
Nutter Center atmosphere tonight for this game. So not going

1065
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,280
to give them a huge home court. I see a

1066
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,320
lot of value in Toledo at five and a half

1067
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,639
in a game that I think they can win, and

1068
00:51:29,679 --> 00:51:32,000
that is a three percent play for me, and maybe

1069
00:51:32,039 --> 00:51:34,360
one I'll even upgrade. And if I do, I'll uh,

1070
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,000
you know, well, I guess you have to be I

1071
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:37,800
guess you have to be one of my clients to

1072
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,400
know if I upgrade it or not to a four.

1073
00:51:40,559 --> 00:51:42,239
But I'm thinking about it, and I really like the

1074
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,440
Rockets plus five and a half, so that will close

1075
00:51:45,039 --> 00:51:47,800
out the parlay. I remember anything.

1076
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,599
Speaker 4: I remember saying that. I remember that it's funny. I

1077
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,039
had a little bit of a chuckle.

1078
00:51:52,039 --> 00:51:54,559
Speaker 3: I don't know if I the people watch and could

1079
00:51:54,559 --> 00:51:56,800
see me chuckle, but I chuckled internally there because I

1080
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,440
remember you talking about.

1081
00:51:58,119 --> 00:51:59,599
Speaker 4: That on the way home.

1082
00:51:59,639 --> 00:52:02,039
Speaker 3: That to you know, how they needed to get away

1083
00:52:02,039 --> 00:52:05,000
from the opponent's playing zone. So this was something that

1084
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,639
everybody you talk about. You know, Trigg mentioned how he

1085
00:52:08,079 --> 00:52:10,920
takes things away from these live experiences. This is something

1086
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:15,320
Trigg was talking about on Sunday, So he's definitely Well.

1087
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,280
Speaker 1: Just Brian, I mean, I mean we were just remember

1088
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,920
the second half of that Marshall game. They totally I mean,

1089
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:25,199
Marshall wed that was I thought you, I didn't know

1090
00:52:25,199 --> 00:52:27,239
if you snuck off into the locker room we had

1091
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:31,960
some access, and like, because that Marshall defense was outstanding

1092
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,320
in the second half, Toledo just went from like a

1093
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,480
comfortable first half lead to getting completely blown out of

1094
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,000
their own gym, and Marshall locked him down.

1095
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 3: I feel with a couple of minutes left, Toledo only

1096
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,559
had fifteen points in the second half. Yes, right, I

1097
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:49,960
remember remarking that because they were up forty to thirty

1098
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,320
at half and I and I was like, they were

1099
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:53,920
at fifty five, and I turned to you, I said,

1100
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,039
oh my god, they scored fifteen points in this half.

1101
00:52:58,559 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a It was a great defensive effort

1102
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:04,400
in the second half from uh from Marshall, and I

1103
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,800
really think they just you know, they have the ability

1104
00:53:07,119 --> 00:53:10,199
to tweak that zone with the seven foot four center.

1105
00:53:10,599 --> 00:53:12,480
Not gonna you know, you're not gonna get that out

1106
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,239
of right state tonight. So just just a lot of

1107
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,840
ways Toledo can have a much better game than they

1108
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:19,639
had the first couple of games where they were just

1109
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:25,599
up against it from a style standpoint. Let's see, Rob,

1110
00:53:26,119 --> 00:53:28,599
you know what we gotta we on the way out,

1111
00:53:28,639 --> 00:53:30,840
we got we gotta talk Creighton and Zaga Firman and

1112
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,480
it's another big game, another another Top twenty five matchup.

1113
00:53:34,519 --> 00:53:37,480
Brian and I were at dinner trying to like watch

1114
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,920
some of this game, and I was like, I think

1115
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:41,920
I watched two possessions on my phone. I was like,

1116
00:53:42,119 --> 00:53:44,920
don't even bother asking them to change. If this game's over,

1117
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,960
Gonzaga got anything they wanted at the rim, it was

1118
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:52,119
a no contest. Uh Got tells me maybe something similar

1119
00:53:52,159 --> 00:53:55,159
happens tonight. What do you think, Rob, Well.

1120
00:53:55,039 --> 00:53:58,280
Speaker 2: The front court's elite, right, you got grahamy k, Braden.

1121
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,519
Speaker 5: Hoof yet I'm tying Grant Foster, who gave him twenty

1122
00:54:01,519 --> 00:54:04,599
two minutes the other night. So that front court's elite,

1123
00:54:04,679 --> 00:54:08,320
Creighton's gonna have to try and match up with it. Obviously,

1124
00:54:08,519 --> 00:54:12,519
Creighton's not a gelled product yet, Adam, But you have,

1125
00:54:12,679 --> 00:54:15,519
I mean the paar of Iowa transfers right, Dixon Freeman,

1126
00:54:16,079 --> 00:54:19,559
Owen Freeman gives them three six tens in this game,

1127
00:54:19,599 --> 00:54:22,199
which should be able to compete. Owen Freeman is a

1128
00:54:22,199 --> 00:54:25,440
guy that's not just and correct. He was hurt a

1129
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,280
lot of last year for Iowa, and Iowa went straight

1130
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:32,440
downhill when Owen Freeman got hurt. Not that they're good defensively,

1131
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,119
but they were even worse defensively. But Owen Freeman's a

1132
00:54:35,119 --> 00:54:37,360
guy that is almost like a point center where you

1133
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,159
can feed him the ball at the foul line. He

1134
00:54:39,199 --> 00:54:42,679
can make plays out of that assist wise, shot wise, off.

1135
00:54:42,519 --> 00:54:43,320
Speaker 2: The bounce wise.

1136
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:47,280
Speaker 5: So I think Creighton's got abilities here. Dix is a

1137
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,840
knockdown three point shooter. They've got a couple of three

1138
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:54,239
point shooters. It may take time for them to develop,

1139
00:54:54,639 --> 00:54:57,760
but they've got pieces here that could give Creighton or.

1140
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 2: Excuse me, good Zaga a problem for a while.

1141
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:05,159
Speaker 5: The problem for me is I absolutely feel like there's

1142
00:55:05,199 --> 00:55:09,639
a run tonight out of Gonzaga where it just becomes,

1143
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,119
you know, you lose touch.

1144
00:55:11,599 --> 00:55:13,159
Speaker 2: So to speak with them, they.

1145
00:55:13,079 --> 00:55:15,280
Speaker 5: Put together one of those five minutes spurts where they

1146
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,880
go sixteen to two or something like that. It opens

1147
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,800
the game up, and then Creighton just can't. They have

1148
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,079
to go bombs away to try and catch up, and

1149
00:55:22,079 --> 00:55:25,159
it doesn't work out. So for me, I think, in

1150
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,599
summary real quick here, Creighton's a team I'll have my

1151
00:55:27,679 --> 00:55:29,760
eye on to get better as the season goes on,

1152
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,679
because I think the parts are good. But right now,

1153
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:36,320
Gonzaga is certainly the well oiled machine, and like you say,

1154
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:40,360
interior wise, they do cause a problem for anybody, even

1155
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,320
if you do have three six tens on your team.

1156
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, we've talked about numbers on the movie.

1157
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,559
I didn't think coming, you know, knowing we were going

1158
00:55:49,599 --> 00:55:50,880
to be talking about this game to day, I didn't

1159
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:52,960
think I would have any interest in the Creighton side.

1160
00:55:53,039 --> 00:55:55,000
Gonzaga is a team that I've projected for the most

1161
00:55:55,039 --> 00:55:57,480
wins regular season wins in the country this year. That

1162
00:55:57,519 --> 00:56:00,199
should be no surprise year in year out there in

1163
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:06,679
that discussion, But you know, then you wake up Tuesday morning,

1164
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:08,719
you see where the line's at, how it's moved, and

1165
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:10,360
you say, oh, man, I kind of want to punch

1166
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,000
back a little bit of this, And it looks like

1167
00:56:12,039 --> 00:56:14,119
some people are because correct me if I'm wrong. About

1168
00:56:14,119 --> 00:56:17,199
an hour ago, I thought I saw this at like thirteen,

1169
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:19,519
and now it's back down to eleven and a half.

1170
00:56:20,119 --> 00:56:22,400
Was that some sort of sunshine daydream, guys that I

1171
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:26,159
was having, or or no? Because I thought it was Okay,

1172
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:30,840
I a ton of money, so okay, you probably now

1173
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:32,880
here's the thing with Crate. I talked to our good friend,

1174
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,159
uh Drake, our good friend Clint after the Crate in

1175
00:56:35,199 --> 00:56:37,960
South Dakota game, his feeling that Creighton might really struggle

1176
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,000
on the glass once they get in the teeth of

1177
00:56:40,039 --> 00:56:43,320
Biggie's play, and Rob brought up the front court of Gonzaga.

1178
00:56:43,599 --> 00:56:47,800
That tells me, you know, I just saw someone pop

1179
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:49,920
in the chat at that the front court for Gonzaga

1180
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,400
could be the major problem in this game. I'm wondering,

1181
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:57,079
you know, as I listened to Rob breakdown the game

1182
00:56:57,159 --> 00:56:59,800
and saying Creighton can keep this close for a while,

1183
00:57:00,599 --> 00:57:04,280
is this one of those situations where if they're not

1184
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,599
covering early, they're not covering late. And perhaps you consider

1185
00:57:07,679 --> 00:57:13,079
Creighton first half because you know, I don't envision, you know,

1186
00:57:13,159 --> 00:57:16,760
game script wise, they get down big and then fight

1187
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,440
their way back into the number. To me, if Creighton

1188
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,719
covers this number, it's gonna be with the solid first

1189
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:26,840
twenty minutes. Rob mentioned Freeman. You know, McDermott said, He

1190
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,840
basically admitted in his own words quote, we have a

1191
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:31,599
lot of work to do with this team, obviously, but

1192
00:57:31,639 --> 00:57:33,400
there are some pieces I think we could work with.

1193
00:57:33,599 --> 00:57:37,599
Rob mentioned Freeman, He mentioned Dix. Nine Crane's got you know,

1194
00:57:37,599 --> 00:57:40,760
they lose called for maybe they've got some depth. Nine

1195
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:44,480
guys are averaging fourteen minutes per game, So I don't know.

1196
00:57:44,599 --> 00:57:47,280
I think maybe if you're interested in the Creighton side,

1197
00:57:47,559 --> 00:57:50,840
first half might be an interesting angle. What is that

1198
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,119
number here? Six and a half more than two possessions?

1199
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:55,760
I don't I actually don't hate that.

1200
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, no question Creighton's rim defense takes a hit.

1201
00:58:00,119 --> 00:58:03,639
No cap Renner. You know, I thought the number was

1202
00:58:03,639 --> 00:58:06,039
was too high as well, Like I actually only made

1203
00:58:06,039 --> 00:58:08,440
this Creighton plus five and a half. I just very

1204
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,800
much disagree with my number right there because and so

1205
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:13,840
a couple of things that that sort of, you know,

1206
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,760
put me off of this even showing like a little

1207
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,639
bit of value on the number. Uh, when does Gonzaga

1208
00:58:20,159 --> 00:58:22,719
get a team like this to come in the kennel anymore?

1209
00:58:22,719 --> 00:58:25,679
It's usually it's usually the ranked team that comes to

1210
00:58:25,679 --> 00:58:28,039
play them is typically Saint Mary's. It's and it's because

1211
00:58:28,039 --> 00:58:30,039
it's a conference game, or like you know, they'll get

1212
00:58:30,079 --> 00:58:33,400
like maybe like another West Coast like you know, they'll

1213
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,840
maybe get a Washington State to come in or like,

1214
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,960
you know, someone like that. It's typically not a big

1215
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,719
East team that's also in the top twenty five. So

1216
00:58:41,719 --> 00:58:45,280
so it's it's gonna be a crazy atmosphere tonight. And

1217
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,079
then to go back to your point, Yeah, our buddy

1218
00:58:47,079 --> 00:58:50,119
Clint Is was probably watching that game with a South

1219
00:58:50,199 --> 00:58:53,000
Dakota lens if you will. He is, that's where he's from,

1220
00:58:53,239 --> 00:58:57,039
that's the program he knows extremely well. South Dakota kind

1221
00:58:57,039 --> 00:58:58,840
of crushed them on the glass in that game. I

1222
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,599
think they had like over two offensive rebounds and I'm

1223
00:59:01,639 --> 00:59:04,320
pretty sure South Dakota is still down their best player

1224
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,000
or one of their best players, and they were very

1225
00:59:07,599 --> 00:59:11,039
competitive in that game with Creighton, So I have no

1226
00:59:11,159 --> 00:59:13,840
interest in Creighton for that reason, but also can't lay

1227
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:17,679
a crazy number with Gonzaga. All right, we have hit

1228
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,800
the finish line. On the way out, I'll let you

1229
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,519
know that we have a great college basketball special. It's

1230
00:59:23,559 --> 00:59:26,800
the Full Court Special three days. It's the same price

1231
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,079
as the Weekend Warrior, and you'll probably get a huge

1232
00:59:29,159 --> 00:59:32,000
volume from whoever you choose since there's so many games

1233
00:59:32,079 --> 00:59:36,079
right now. The parlay plus fourteen point two to two

1234
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,880
units or for every dollar risk if you're betting these

1235
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,119
the same up fourteen dollars and twenty two cents. A

1236
00:59:42,119 --> 00:59:44,840
tremendous start to the season. Today we have Rob Vino

1237
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:48,400
on UC Santa Barbara minus eight and a half. I'm

1238
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,480
going to go with Toledo plus five and a half,

1239
00:59:50,679 --> 00:59:52,320
and then Brian Power is going to close it out

1240
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:56,000
with a total Morehead State Clemson under one forty seven

1241
00:59:56,079 --> 00:59:58,519
and a half six to one odds. That's your three

1242
00:59:58,599 --> 01:00:01,800
team or today it's five dollar Tuesday, So check everyone's page.

1243
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,599
We'll all have a play up for five dollars at

1244
01:00:04,599 --> 01:00:06,639
some point and we'll see you guys in the morning

1245
01:00:06,639 --> 01:00:09,920
for more Full Court Press. Have a great day, everybody,