Speaker 1: All right, welcome in to full Court Press, and uh
Robert will likely join shortly, but we got to get going.
There's a huge slate of games today and right off
the top, uh it's Veterans Day, So thank you to
anyone that's served our good buddy Mark Zeno and anyone
else that has served our country. So the three of us,
there's rob let me let me just bring them in.
There we go, so the three of us can can
can sit here and talk about basketball games and handicapped games.
Uh and, and we have the ability to do that.
So happy veteran, you know, thank you to all that
have served. I strolled up in my Navy zip up.
I got to go down to the two Navy on
Veterans Day weekend last year. That was very cool. They
were also very good to me there on my visit.
Uh And, and we'll probably talk some Navy hoops at
some point. But there is a lot of big games tonight,
and I'm gonna we'll go co co main event here
if you I know. There's a few big ones, but
I want to start The two games I want to
start with are going to be Kentucky Louisville and Texas Tech. Illinois.
I think those are kind of the two biggest on
the slate. So let's start Kentucky Louis. I'm gonna go
to Brian Power first man. They big rivalry game. They
moved it up a little bit earlier in the season.
They used to I feel like they used to play
this when like students weren't around in like, yeah.
Speaker 2: The Christmas.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember watching this game with my father in
law a few times, which means it would have been
around a holiday of some sort.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so Brian, this game is that the KFC
YOUM center something that is no longer on my diet
after this weekend. You know, I had to clean it up.
But the importance of that is Louis will been getting
a big home game here. Kids on campus should be
an intense environment, likely baked into the number a little
bit though, So kick me off, Kentucky loul How you
see this rivalry?
Speaker 3: Yeah, KFC, YOUM with the exclamation point like Jeb Bush's
FA presidential campaign. But that's a different story for a
different day. I don't want to be I don't want
to bury the lead everybody. I look, I'm sure people
are hop in the comments section and mention it, so
I do want to note, yes, I'm very sorry to
anyone who was on board last night by five percent.
Speaker 4: NFL play the Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 3: You need more than seven points game, so sorry about
that anyone who followed. We'll get it back here tonight
and moving forward and in college hoops, I think you
mentioned trigger it's a great slate, so let's hit it
off with a game that I'm gonna be talking about
on wager Talk today. I'll give you kind of a
cliff Notes version of the preview. I'm going to give
a Matt show. But you mentioned it's an earlier meeting.
Their meeting earlier in the season than normal. It's the
first time Kentucky Louisville have played both as ranked teams
since twenty nineteen, so it's a really big deal tonight, guys.
Kentucky's won eight of the previous ten meetings. Of course,
more pertinent for our discussion here being that we are
a betting show. Wildcats seven too and one against the number.
In those last ten games last year, they failed to
cover one, only my eight as ten point favorites, Kentucky
really shot the lights out, guys. If you remember fifty
eight percent overall. To be exact, fifty two percent from three.
Speaker 4: They were last year against Louisville and Lamon.
Speaker 3: Butler did not miss a single field goal attempt in
that game, finished with thirty three points. Of course, that
was in Lexington, not the KFC Young Center in Louisville.
This is the first true road game for Kentucky. Wildcats
have smashed their first two games. It's hard to learn
a lot. We've talked about that. When you're a big favorite,
your role as expected. There's I don't think a lot
you can pull. Kentucky's a team that's scored one hundred
points one hundred and more six times last season. No Trent,
Noah for Valpo. I don't know how much that's going
to factor to your guys. Handicap he tweaked his ankle
in the opener. I can tell you this is a
Wildcat's team. Was seven guys averaging and double figured so far,
so one guy being out probably not the end of
the world if he can't play. Also, Mark Pope is
coaching tonight. There was some fake news on the internet.
I don't know if you guys caught this. Somebody tried
spreading a nasty rumor that because of jury duty, Mark
Pope would not be coaching today. Mark Pope has in
fact been called for jury duty. But guess what, guys,
the State of Kentucky's gonna let him coach tonight. So
people who make up fake things like that should just
be physically assaulted.
Speaker 4: In my opinion, that's just that's just my take.
Speaker 1: Though.
Speaker 3: I don't know why you would go on the internet
and lie on purpose. But Louisville, I think there's a
lot to like, Guys. I don't know what you think.
This is a team that's shooting seventy two percent from
two point range so far. Now that was against Jackson
State and South Carolina State. We understand that. But I
think the Cardinals here, you know, I know Ken palm
has Kentucky is it's top rated team so far. I
really respect the work Ken Palmeroy has done gang, but
I actually think Louisville's the better team. You know, And
then you guys can talk. I'll leave the Louisville side.
I guess open to you guys here. I've talked long enough.
But you know Hadley, you know he missed the last
game to to being in concussion protocol. Prior though return
from an acl that kept him out of action for
a year. I just think, you know the Mark, it
seems to agree with my assessment that Louisville's to play here.
I've seen some sharper books at five, at least I
did a few minutes before I logged on here to
go live. And meanwhile, you think the public's probably gonna
be enamored with the higher ranked team getting points, that
being Kentucky in this situation.
Speaker 4: But I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna respectfully disagree with Kentucky being number one in
ken Palm.
Speaker 4: I think Louisville's better.
Speaker 5: I would lay it, yeah, Brian, I would you know
those who got to three and a half early m Again,
I think I'm talking weird here. It doesn't sound right
to me, but if you can hear me, I'm gonna
keep there.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, sound good to us.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: The the number now five and a half. But the
total is what's going crazy?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 5: An eight point move on this total upward? Obviously, we
talked the other day about Pat Kelsey. He wants to
go go go. Mark Pope wants to go go go.
I understand, I don't know when it gets to be
too high, But for my taste, it's probably too high
right now with the totals concern a couple of things here, Brian,
you hit on them, a couple of injury tidbits to
clean up for this one prior we'll see.
Speaker 2: The word from Pat Kelsey was he's hopeful he can
go tonight.
Speaker 5: But if you look preseason, there are a lot of
projections for Kentucky's backcourt being top ten in the country.
And I'll just throw a vote in here for Louisville's
talent at backcourt, right. Mckel brown five star prospect, another
one of these kids that's projected lottery pick NBA. They
go out and they grab two to three point marksmen
out of the portal, Isaac McNeely from Virginia, Ryan Conwell
from Xavier.
Speaker 2: Both guys have shot it at forty.
Speaker 5: One percent or better so far this season. County Ruth's
has turned into a sophomores and say leading scorer for
the team so far. They seem to have all the
pieces here Louisville and my estimation, you're right, Brian. For
the first two games, each side played two very very
I don't know, bottom feeders style club.
Speaker 2: So it's hard to say.
Speaker 5: I mean, I did have Kentucky team total ass part
of our parlay last week. It did get over they
scored one hundred and seven, but Louisville's shown they can
get to one.
Speaker 2: Hundred as well.
Speaker 5: My thoughts on the sideer this is a triple revenge
spot for Louisville. I know, Brian, you quoted ats numbers
over the last ten years, or seven and two last night.
Whatever to Pat Kelsey. All that matters here is they
got to win one. This is one of those like
Ohio State, Michigan in football, Louisville Kentucky and basketball.
Speaker 2: Same thing.
Speaker 5: You come in, second year head coach. He did a
good rebuild job last year. It's time to win one here.
I think they can. I'm just not sure it can
be by more than five and a half. At this point,
I would have preferred the lower number. Obviously, it's difficult
thing to say, we're not, you know, dropping any huge
knowledge on anybody. To jump from three and a half
to five and a half becomes pretty large. Now you
have to win by a couple of triples or three buckets.
It's tough to do both teams. Like I say, the
backcourt matchup should be really really good here. I think
it decided in the front court and maybe by turnovers
guys in turnover numbers that I looked at early, it
seems to me Louisville might be able to cause a
little bit of trouble for Kentucky as far as that's concerned,
and maybe points off turnovers just end up deciding it.
Speaker 2: But I'm on the fence here. I think the number
for me sidewise is gone.
Speaker 5: I would have taken Louisville at three and a half opener,
and where total is concerned, I think that's gone too.
Now you're asking for one seventy five, one seventy six.
It could turn into a little bit of a free
throw fest that late or late in the game, which
always helps the total. But I'm gonna lay off side
the end total here.
Speaker 1: So I'll just quickly address us. So, first of all,
thank you Garth for the donation, and you can also
just go to the website and it's five dollars Tuesday.
So five dollars goes a long way a wager talk today,
everyone's gonna have five dollars plays up. We also have
I saw they put a full court special up, which
is like three days of college hoops. I think it's
like similar to the weekend Warrior Football Special, which like
I've already got four plays locked in for college basketball today.
This is like I went to and Oh last night
and I decided the foot is going on the gas.
We've got a week or so of data and I'm
starting to trust like my reads and my numbers a
little bit more than I did week one. So four
plays up for me already, all three percenters. They will
all probably more. I'm probably gonna add other things, but Garth,
I'm just going to specifically answer your question right now.
So for me, I agree with these guys. The number
is gone in both on the side and the total
of my opinion. I see you're asking me about the
under now. I don't want to commit to an under
full game or and under in a half, even though
I do think that's probably where the value is. But
I think there is going to be a boatload of
three point shots in this game from both sides, especially
from Louisville, who tends to you know, Pat Kelsey, Louisville
tends to like to really shoot the three, and especially
when they're in the when they're at their home gym,
they've got the crowd on their side. I think they're
more likely to do it. So what do we do, Guys?
What do we know about teams or about a game
that's gonna have a lot of three point shots. We
know that there's likely like even if you you shoot
the lights out, what are you hitting like forty fifty
maybe at most? I mean if you have a game
where you shoot sixty seventy percent from three, that, I
mean that's a total outlier. So if I was going
to try to bet an under in this game, I
think I would do it after a hot stretch from three,
and just because I think they're gonna take a lot
of threes, and I try to buy right before that
like lull of like you know, okay, well now they've
missed four or five in a row, and then you
get your little because that's the only way is scoring
drought here in this game is few possessions where there's
a couple of you know, missed threes and suddenly you've
got a minute or two without scoring. There's gonna be
a lot of shots, a lot of possessions, which is
why I don't want to commit to a total and
a half or the full game. But if you can
buy in at a good time, at a good number,
there will likely be a lull at some point, and
you just got to try to pick out where it is.
Hopefully that helped. We're going to move it along. Second
sort of feature game that we're going to go to,
and then it's going to be a total free for all.
So jump in the comments, let us know what you
want to hear about, and we'll get to as many
as we can. But the second game I want to
give the full treatment, and I'll go to Brian Power first.
Texas Tech Illinois is going to be a tremendous game.
Illinois unfortunately a couple of injuries that puts them in
a little bit of tougher spot. But Brian, my kind
of my first thing was like, well, I really like
this Texas Tech team, but I feel like the books
maybe got the injuries baked into the number here a
little bit that being said, should still be a tremendous game.
Texas Tech might actually be fully healthy. So how are
you seeing this? When Red Raiders align on?
Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting, I really like Illinois trig I'll talk a
little bit about them.
Speaker 4: What they've done.
Speaker 3: They made you know and they've again similar to our
last game that we talked about, the Louisville Kentucky game,
it's you have to take some of these numbers with
the grain assault given the level of competition. But offensively
Illinois they make seventeen to threes in the open against
Jackson State. Then what do they do last Friday against
Florida Gulf Coast. They attacked the rim at will. Both
games they score one hundred and thirteen points. And here's
a crazy number for you. Again, maybe take it with
a grain of assault because of the level of opposition.
But in their first two games, the aligne I had
a one twelve to forty nine rebounding edge. That's no
matter who you're playing, if you're playing a D one,
if you against two D one college basketball teams, that's
impressive on no matter what. Meanwhile, Texas Tech they were
dealing with injuries as well. Trig for the four guys
were out in the season opener against lynden Wood. Of
course didn't matter to win that one by thirty eight.
JT Toppin he comes back fridaygainst Sam Houston goes for
thirty one and fourteen lawn watts. He returned, keep an
eye on dot of an at well six three you
come out eye popping numbers. How about six made threes
each of the first two games. But you know, Illinois,
I don't know. I'm high on the I think Illinois
Can is gonna be one of the best teams in
the country this year, playing at home.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna you know, I guess you have to debate
how much the injuries matter. But I made this. I
mean this number my raw power ratings.
Speaker 3: I have a lot Illinois favored by more obviously than this,
just on raw power ratings, and I leave my initial
lean was towards the Illinois side. So I'm interested to hear,
you know, the case for Texas Tech.
Speaker 1: So I just want to follow up with what you're
gonna say and then and then we'll go to Rob
for his breakdown. I my number, like, I understand why
the I saw a lot of the power ratings were
very high on Illinois. But I like, that's to me
where it's like, you're not gonna have Thomas Lavin a
Visavic is sick at Jesus. It's gonna be a tough
year with some of these names, he's I believe he's
out for like the foreseeable future. I think that matters
more in a matchup like this, where like Texas Tech's
gonna be able to do some some things defensively that
Illinois opponents to this point have not. Petrovic is still,
I think, coming back from like a hamstring thing, but
he's probably gonna play, and then there's at least one
of their rotational pieces is out, So it's like for me,
I think that's baked into the number. So I think
that's why, you know, when you look at it's only
four at home, I think full strength Illinois is more
like six and a half or seven. Ultimately, I think
that's gonna keep me off of this game because I
feel like I'm not really getting out ahead of the
injury sort of in news. But on the Texas Tech side,
we did see like what you know, pretty much their
starters altogether, at least for a little bit of last game,
which is why I kind of lean Texas Tech. I
think their defense is going to probably be like it's
going to match up well with Illinois. But to your point, Brian,
I wasn't in a rush to fade Illinois here either,
So I didn't bet it, and we'll kind of see.
I'll bring Robin to sort of hammer this one home,
because that's about all I've got here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, guys, a few points you made already that are Adam.
I'm like, you have papers all over the place on
this desk with notes. I just I don't read notes
off the computer. I'm scattered all over the place here.
But Illinois, they're referred to as the overseas retention team.
This year brought everybody back and everybody from overseas now
the Twins Ivasich. I'm one of those guys that will
go to YouTube to make sure I get pronunciations right
on these guys. And another one for Illinois that I
had to make sure I was right on this morning
was Ben Humrick House, a guy who came back this
year put on about twenty twenty five pounds. Head coach
Brad Underwood thinks he's going to be a huge piece
of this team. But Illinois and Texas Tech are mirror
images in that particular area. They both have their course
back here to Bryan's point about that one twelve to
forty nine rebounding advantage held by Illinois so far, this season.
It was my first concern because I want to play
Texas Tech in this game. Texas Tech was small last
year comparatively, and they still made a deep run. They're
so scrappy on the boys. In my estimation, JT. Toppins
is the best player on the floor. The point guard
match here is going to be really, really good. I
happen to like Christian Anderson from Texas Tech an awful lot.
But on the Illinois side, Kylon Boswell, it's a great matchup.
I guess they call them T and Z the Evasitch brothers.
T is out, big Z is in, and he can
stretch the floor.
Speaker 2: Guys.
Speaker 5: He was three of six from three point range. So
when you have a seven foot two guy that can
actually drag you outside, it becomes increasingly difficult to hit
the boards. But my overall opinion on this is simple.
It's interesting to watch the evolution of head coach Grant mccasly.
Once upon a time he was the head coach of
North Texas, running at the slowest tempo in the NCAA. Now,
all of a sudden he lets his horses loose, and
I think for Texas Tech, even though Illinois prefers it
as well. I think Texas Tech needs to get a
little bit open floor here to get some easy buckets.
Don't let that rim protection set up against them. I
think they can handle it. I think they can get
to the free throw line. We'll see if the whistles
go the home team's way. It's always a concern. I
would look Texas Tech plus the points here simply based
on the fact that they match up Illinois strengths. Other
than the rebounding, I don't think they're better than Texas Tech.
And for what it's worth, this is like an Elite
eight matchup being played here on November eleventh, so we'll
get to learn a lot. I take it to consideration
the Illinois injuries a little bit.
Speaker 2: If they're at full strength.
Speaker 5: I don't know that I'd be thinking this way necessarily,
but the line would probably be higher too. I'd like
Texas Tech a little bit plus to four and a half.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. I'm closer to like with the
injuries factored, and I'm closer to one on the number here,
but I haven't been able to bring myself to click
it yet. So to take that for you know, do
what you will with that. If I if I loved it, it
would already be in Let's just put it that way.
I'm gonna gonna think what that would marinate. See if
it see if it moves, I think if it moves,
though it's going toward, I think it's gonna get worse.
I could see this going off like Tech plus three
and a half, maybe even plus three as that you know,
the injuries sort of permeate through the market. But let's
get I want to go to a couple of Sorry, Brian,
did you have a follow up there? Look, let's go
to I want to go. So we got a couple
veterans in the chat that I want to recognize. First,
Jay Buff that's our guy. He you know, I know
he served many years. So thank you for your service,
and thank you for your question because I wanted to
talk about this game anyway. So I'm gonna go back
to Rob. This is his conference. I do have an
opinion here, but I'll let Rob kick it off. This
is a very interesting game tonight. We have the Murray
State Racers, who have very much looked the part. Early
in the season. We got that great showcase game with
them on Opening Night where they just blasted. I think
it was Omaha, and I believe another cover for them
on a big number over the weekend. And then we
have the SMU Mustangs. Who are you know, favored here?
And I suppose rightfully so, But Rob, I thought that
number was big and I maybe have missed the number.
At this point, I know you're in Ohio. I'm sorry
a Missouri Valley guy. This game. This game is down
in Texas at SMU. So talk to me, Murray State SMU.
Is that number looking too big to you as well?
Speaker 5: It looked too big to be Adam, In all honesty,
Murray State's going. You know, they never really changed their identity, honestly,
no matter who the head coach is there, and it
hasn't been a swinging gait, but they've had a couple
of different guys. No matter what, it's a team that's
generally guard oriented and it's a team that plays really
good defense. And so when you have those two, you know,
the old saying defense travels SMU. To me, you're right
that they should be. Obviously they're the better team on paper.
But to me, SMU is one of those teams where
it's a little sporadic offensively can be great, can be mediocre,
and I don't know that the defense is always there.
So when I saw thirteen and a half yesterday and
then you know I was commenting with you guys earlier,
we kind of lost the odds service for a while,
and then this morning I see the downward movement to
ten and a half. So I'm not gonna say that
we lost the number here at them, because I think
Murray State's got a built in toughness about them that's
capable of covering this type of number. I didn't play it,
but I understand where you're going with it, because I
think Murray State, you know, this is not a venue again,
and this happens at the end of the card tonight
one more time. The Chattanooga to Saint Mary's road trip
is kind of one thing when we take these mid
majors and try to place them in foreign spots, But
to go to Dallas, Texas and to play an sm
u's atmosphere is not nearly as killer as something like
out in Saint Mary's. So I don't think Murray State's
going to be phased. They've been there, done that, They've
been part of big games for a long time. I
think they've got the ability to match up, so I
would still.
Speaker 2: Kind of lean that way.
Speaker 5: But of course, once again, we would have rather had
the thirteen and a half, and I think the smart
guys picked off the better number.
Speaker 3: And it's an interesting situation, guys, because we've got to
it's the dog. They've covered the number both games. The
favorite failed to cover the number both in each of
the first two games, So you know that that's where
I think that also probably has a lot to do
with how the markets reacted here as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm with you, Rob, I was very
interested at thirteen. That number was kind of gone quickly.
I obviously smgu is going to be a favorite in
this game at home, But I'm not a big Andy
Enfield guy. When it comes to like in game coaching,
I typically find myself lower than the market on his teams.
This Murray State team has been very impressive on the
defensive end as well, just playing extremely hard. I think
there this is going to be I've said this a
couple of times and I'll say it again. This is
going to be a very good Missouri Valley Conference this year,
and I think Murray State is going to be one
of the teams that's near the top of that conference.
So I made the number nine. It's down a ten
and a half. I certainly think Murray State can hang
in this game. I think they can handle SMU zone.
So I have no reason to talk anyone off Murray
State here other than I can't take it. I can't
take a ten and a half when I could have
had a thirteen. And that's just my personal sort of
view on it that that's too big of like a
chance to get middled. So you never know, maybe try
to grab this one in game. But all of my
sort of data, my research watching these two teams points
to the Murray State side. Okay, let's get this one
in here. I have an opinion on this one, and
I'll go to BP you see if he's got anything
to follow up, because this is an interesting game. Curtis,
first of all, thank you for the donation and the question.
Curtis says, could you do the FSU game? FSU team
total over seventy nine and a half looks good to me,
and we'll get Rob's opinion on that as well. New
coach Lows. I've liked what I've seen from Lows I've
liked what I've seen from this FSU team wants to
play bass and shoot threes over forty percent from three
point on the year. So a couple things here, But
this is a game another one that's on my sort
of next line down of games I am very strongly considering.
I think Florida State's better than anyone is sort of
knows yet. Of course, new coach, you know, transition year
after Leonard Hamilton forever and they sort of fell off.
I think they're projected close to the bottom of the ACC.
But I'm a little bit more i would say, bullish
on Florida State than I think the market is. And
I mean, this is this is I don't know if
I want to like be on camera saying this just yet,
but like I just don't know. I'm gonna if I
buy the flanned Xavier Lee Xavian Lee thing for Florida,
and I'm almost willing to say that Florida is gonna
come nowhere near to what they were last year. That
was what I was worried about, like proclaiming that and
then having Florida just be like just incredible and making
me look stupid. I think Florida's pretty overvalued at this point,
and then you talk about an opener of like fifteen
and a half that all the way up to nineteen
and a half, Curtis, I make the number eighteen and
a half here with Florida State, and I've seen a
lot of stuff I like from them so far that
makes me think that they're going to stay within this number.
So again, strongly considering Florida State. Maybe it'll be my
parlay leg. But I'm going to give you two the
chance to talk me off of that, so Rob, you know, Rob,
I'll go to you first. Actually, you and I talked
about Lee, you know, Zaby and Lee comes over from Princeton,
maybe not being the best fit there in Florida. How
are you sort of rating Florida to this point?
Speaker 5: Well, the Arizona game was you know, I think Brian
both called Arizona plus the points. I didn't know that
they would win out right, but I thought the game
would be played close.
Speaker 2: The game was played close.
Speaker 5: It's you know, here's what worries me about Florida State
in this game.
Speaker 2: Guys, A they want to go fast.
Speaker 5: I don't know that I want to go fast with
Florida b that Florida front court is going to dominate
just about everybody they play. FSU doesn't match up in
the front court here. I don't think Florida's biggs or
veteran Florida's bigs crash the boards. Florida A bigs can score,
Florida's bigs can defend. We don't know that much about
Florida State yet except they I wouldn't even say they've
transformed styles because under Leonard Hamilton they played pretty quick
like they're playing. But they've played a pair of SWACK teams.
What do I read out of that? I'm not so
sure because the Swack is a defenseless league for the
most part until they play each other. Then you know,
competition reads sort of competitive games. But when they're out
on the floor against a team like Florida State that
wants to run, they're not going to compete. So for me,
I would more or less choose to look at Florida
team total in this game. Guys, I'm using odds logic
right now to try and pull it up so I
can make a real well, you know what, they're asking
Florida to get to one hundred, so forget I even
made that comment. But we're not gonna you know, we're
not going to bet teams to get to one hundred.
We like when they get there and they're like eighty
nine and a half or ninety, but we're not going
to bet teams to get to one hundred. The price again, Adam,
we're talking talking about three games straight here where the
price move matters. I think, you know, and I get
these early college basketball lines year in a year out.
Speaker 2: Generally they're pretty good. When the sharps get to these.
Speaker 5: Totals and move them the way they have, they're generally
smart moves early on. They become a little iffy later.
But right now, I wouldn't argue with I wouldn't argue
with the move towards Florida. I just wouldn't lay it
at this price and you got to win by twenty.
I know it's a rivalry. Who's to say at the
end of the game, FSU at that pace, the way
they want to shoot threes, Who's to say that they
don't get a back door three or something, so.
Speaker 2: I'm off the game. But that would be my concern
at them.
Speaker 5: I concern would be schedule played by FSU schedule played
by Florida and the bigs in this game.
Speaker 2: I just think Florida's bigs are that good.
Speaker 3: So I think this number looks way too high. I
would concur with you, Trigg, what you were saying there.
My concern though, for the Florida State side is this
Florida has not shot the three well at all. You
brought up maybe and we've all brought up I think,
you know, going to the opener, did do we like
how the backcourt was gonna mesh? But like that's the
concern for floor, Like what if Florida starts making threes?
You know, they're they were six for they were six
for thirty two from three in the last game and
they put up one point three points per possession against
an overmatch team. I think that's like, you know, it's
that seems to be the common theme for today's show,
right that there's a lot of teams coming off you know,
they whipped lesser opponents. Now their face, you know, what
do we take from that? Is that fools gold or not?
But that would, I guess be my concern with backing
Florida State. What if Florida has a night has a
decent night from three because to Rob's point, you know,
Rob brought up the idea of all Florida could put
points on the board. Okay, well, here's a team that averaged,
you know, one point three points per possession despite shooting
six for thirty two from three. If those threes fall,
my god, I mean, the sky would be the limit
for that team.
Speaker 1: Offensively, Yeah, I kind of ultimately, like listen, I had
a chance to click nineteen and a half. I didn't.
It's got that back down a little bit. At this point,
my number was eighteen and a half. So even though
I have a pretty strong opinion here, I didn't show
enough value to make a bet. Just to go back
at Curtis's original question, I don't dislike the Florida State
team total over because to Bryan's point, if some of
those threes start falling for Florida and they are down
like fifteen to twenty, my gut tells me that this
team is gonna play for laps like they looked like.
If I caught some of Florida's opener, I think they
played like alcorn State, but like they were very engaged
for forty minutes, and I think if they are like that.
In this game, they will hit that team total over.
They'll get to eighty. Even if Florida does drop one
hundred plus, they'll still get to eighty. So I think
your read on over Florida State team total is a
good one. I don't disagree with that. Alright, let's yeah,
we gotta so. I've got a couple opinions here. I'll
throw it to you guys. First. I could probably talk
about both of these games, but I know people are
asking about this. We have a couple of day games today,
Dougie Fresh says, any insight into the afternoon games that's
gonna be Iona and the Kangaroos Brian of Missouri City.
That is a home game for them. And then we've
got l i U out in at air Force. I
believe as a favorite the Northeast Conference Long Island Sharks
are favored against air Force. Just just how far air
Force has fallen. So you guys can You're both welcome
to pass. It just means the folks are gonna have
to listen to me ramble a little bit more. But
either any anything on either of those.
Speaker 4: I'll tackle LU air Force. How about that? If that's okay?
Speaker 3: Rob, I'll tackle that one, because you know we've already
mentioned on the show before collectively that it could be
a very long season in Colorado Springs this year for
air Force. Obviously, this is a team that can't do
anything in the transfer portal.
Speaker 4: You know, they lose at home by twenty to Austin p.
Speaker 3: They're not shooting well at all from anywhere, including below
fifty percent from the free throw line. This team that
they're turning the ball over a lot as well, and
they're playing and this is a double whammie. When you're
playing at one of the slowest tempos in the country
and you've got a really high turnover rate, that just
is a disaster. Really now, it is pretty cood. I
mean it speaks volumes that l Iu even it would
be a road favorite against anybody. I think that says
more about the current state of Air Force.
Speaker 1: Are taking money as we speak, it's up to four
and a half.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a lot, man.
Speaker 3: I you know, a team that's on a cust I mean,
and you know that's not a short bus trip either
from Long Island to Colorado Springs, guys, I mean that's
you know, but you can't play air I guess. I
guess my professional take would be, you can't take air
Force right now against anybody. Initially, I thought kind of
Long Island money line when I when I marked this
game down before we went live, before obviously the number move.
My initial thought was Long Island's going to win this
basketball game game air Force. But their concern too, I
think if I wrote this up, yeah, so maybe an
under because I talked about air Force's band free throw
shooting him a moment ago below fifty percent for the year.
Long Island's missed twenty three free throws in their first
two games. Always something to consider free throws shooting when
you're betting a total.
Speaker 1: Keith, I will I'm gonna go and to Rob, I
just want to just he. Keith says, this is the
third year they've played yet. The first one I went
to it was at l IU. So air Force came
and played a Veteran's day like day game down at
LU in Brooklyn. I went to that game. And then
last year LU did go out and get that I'm
at air Force and they must have owed him two
return games and it is and I made the number
three and it's up to four. I've got nothing else
to say about this game, but I'll bring Rob in
for his thoughts on either of these.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and guys, that final was sixty three to fifty four,
one seventeen total in that LU air Force game last year,
And those are a couple of the concerns that I
would bring up here.
Speaker 2: With LU A.
Speaker 5: You know, with Rod Strickland, they just want to get
up and down the floor really fast. Air Force wants
to slow you down.
Speaker 2: So just by.
Speaker 5: Going back over last year's result, we see who controlled
the tempo.
Speaker 2: Air Force controlled the tempo. LU.
Speaker 5: It didn't get out of hand. It's at play at altitude.
You always wonder about these teams from the Northeast that
want to run. Of course, last year a little bit
of adjustment to it, but altitude has its problems for
a team like LU as well. I kind of feel
like there's a way air Force can stay within four
and a half here.
Speaker 2: It's been a heck of an early season.
Speaker 5: Eight days for LU go to Notre Dame play IU Indianapolis,
where that's the number one pace team in the country.
So that styles fit for LIU. This style isn't. I
did watch air Force because I played Belmont against them again.
It was part of our parlay last week. Belmont hung
on lay fifteen and a half win by sixteen. It
wasn't as easy as it looked, and at halftime I
believe it was only a two point Belmont lead. So
I think air Force has some redeeming qualities. I know
when we covered that Belmont Air Force game, we talked
about the personnel losses and how maybe they would be
one of the worst teams in the nation. When I
watched them in that game, I didn't really see that.
And that's Belmont's a better team than LU guys. And
to be on the road at Belmont and play within
a half point of the number. I'm not going to
argue with the Sharps who seemed to think Liu is
a solid play I hear, But I'm gonna say I
think there's a way air Force hangs within this. You know,
what's now a four and a half number.
Speaker 1: You know there certainly is. It's still I mean, listen,
it's still Joe Scott as the head coach. He's coached.
I believe this is stint number two, not nearly as
successful as Stint number one at air Force, But you know,
he's gonna run that Princeton offense. They're always if you've
watched I've watched probably more air Force basketball over the
last few years, and I care to admit it's not that,
you know, it's not the prettiest watch, but I will
say that, like when that air Force offense clicks a
little bit, it can be esthetically pleasing. They'll hit a
back door screen and it's like the problem is they
just don't have guys that can put the ball in
the basket. But listen, l Iu at at points in
time this year will drop a game to like a
Mercy Hurst or a Lamoye like that. You know, you
still have to understand that LU is probably not going
to run the table in the Northeast Conference, like they
will undoubtedly like come up here to Syracuse and lose
to like a Lamoine and lose or lose to like
a Mercy lose to you know, like a Fairleigh Dickinson
or something like that. Is air Force better than those teams?
Like probably, like even though it's you know, even though
we're gonna sit here and drag them, Like if you
were to throw air Force in the Northeast Conference, they're
probably one of the favorites to win it. Like, that's
what we're dealing with here. So even though LU is
a very good team, they've got to go out west.
It's a it's an earlier tip time, and if you
know it's it's just not a given that they're gonna win.
I would not lay four and a half. I just
don't know if I have the stones to take the
points from air force, Like that's the only way I
would play it at this point, though, I'll quickly touch
on the other game. So IONA is gonna go out
and play a true road game at one pm at
Missouri Kansas City. What I can tell you about IONA
is they have a new so new head coach, Dan Jiau,
who is who comes and he's an NBA assistant from
somewhere I forget where, but he comes in and he's
very much revamping like IONA basketball. I heard him talk
a couple of times over the summer, and and his
his words led me to believe that this would that
they were like in like a little bit of a
year zero type scenario where it was like, let's rip
this down and do things the right way. Like I
almost felt like some of the things he said, were
like him sort of subtily being like, don't come at
me if we lose our first couple of games. Right like,
it was like, hey, this is a this is gonna
take some time. Now. They came out and throttled Hofstruck
just absolutely rare. I mean, it was like twenty two
to four in the first couple of minutes. But then
I had to you know, they kind of they held on.
It was a comfortable margin of victory, but I had
to sort of like go back and say, you know
they were home. Did they just like ride some insanely
hot shooting to like a twenty point lead and it
was good enough to like hold on. I would play
against them here, especially at the current number you're getting four.
I don't know enough about UMKC to like love my
opinion on this team, but where I have the number,
I made the number one. So for what it's worth,
I make Iona a one point favorite on the road here,
and I'll probably give some thought to taking the four
with UMKC. You could still get a four and a
half at FanDuel. I'm gonna think about this one probably
for the next hour or two, but there is some
appeal to me for fading Iona first road game, true
road game have to go out to the Midwest where
they don't you know, I feel like they don't typically
leave the Northeast very often, so it just seems like
a weird spot. And I still go back to what
Jarrow said about, like, hey, I want to like really
do things my way, keep it simple for them early
that was a stunning result to me that they just
mopped the floor with Hofstra. I thought Hawstro would win
that game.
Speaker 3: Kansas City might be bad defensively, I think it would
be my concern. The one thing that you know, I'm
looking at like teams were not taking a long time
to shoot against them first two games, and they were
making a lot of them. So I don't know. To me,
I don't know this Kansas City looks bad. I'll be
honest with you. I was actually when I figure people
because it was a daycame were to ask about this,
I actually kind of, you know, leaned a little bit
towards the Iona side transfer c j anthon you have
to player to watch there, So I don't know. I
thought I thought it was more of a play against
Kansas City, I guess, than anything else. Trag I just
I don't know. It seems that it might be a
long year on the defensive end for them for the root.
Speaker 1: And I just want to and I just want to
sort of mention. Then I'll go to Rob, I'm about
to put you on the spot for your your parlay legs,
just giving you a thirty second heads up unless you
want to chime into this game after I'm done here.
But like for me, like I want to make it
very clear, like it would be an Iona fade for me,
Like that's it, like I and that's ultimately why it
might miss my card. It's like I don't feel like
I have a good enough gauge about UMKC basketball at
this point to like confidently bet this game. I just
know that I'm going to look for spot to fatee
Iona because of what I sort of heard coming into
the season and then them looking like the you know,
the Monstars or whoever you know, Like they look look
like the Space Jam team for the first fifteen minutes
or ten minutes of that game, and I think they
were able to just sort of ride that to a
very impressive win that I'm not I'm not fully ready
to buy. So so you MKC or passed for me. Rob,
I just realized, like, it's we've got about twenty minutes
to go. So if you don't have your parlay leg
figured out yet, don't worry about it. We can come
back to you. But if you do, I want to
give you the floor to get you in on the
discussion here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're gonna love this one, Adam, because we've discussed
it as long as.
Speaker 2: Three weeks ago, maybe a month ago. But I'm all
in on Santa Barbara.
Speaker 5: Tonight minus nine and a half against Sacramento State, we
talked about Mike Bibby's team being somewhat of a.
Speaker 2: I don't know, a troublesome unit. This year.
Speaker 5: They played two games against again non teams against Jessup
that their largest win in a half was by six points.
They won the first half by four, they won the
second half by six. It's a team with fourteen brand
new players. Mike Bibbie trying to round it all up
the Santa Barbara side. First of all, they're always good
under Pasternick, but you add Aiden Mahoney from Saint Mary's
to this team, that's crazy good, A crazy good pick
up for a team like Cal Santa Barbara, who's gonna
run The top five or five of the top six
in that unit are all juniors and seniors. There are
number six already in the nation in the field goal
efficiency effective field goal percentage. So I just don't see
any way they don't win by double digits here at him.
It's not that excruciating of a road trip, and it's
not a devastating venue to walk into, the Hornets Nest
in Sacramento State. So give me you see Santa Barbara
minus what I think now is nine and a half
because money's gotten to this. The opener was seven and
a half. I wouldn't be surprised. If you know it's
a late game, it probably goes even higher. So locked
now you see Santa Barbara minus nine and a half.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think. I think Shaq is involved with the program.
I think his son, the one that was at Florida
A and m transferred there. There's some interesting players on
the roster. My concern and I think it is what
you've already outlined, like Mike Baby didn't really hire any
like respectable assistance. It's it's like him who was coaching
like high school basketball and then like just a ragtag
group of assistant coaches. Like I just I can't see
how that works out unless they just have absolute ballers.
But like I'm with you, Brian, I mean, I just
like I'll throw this out there. It's really not an
actuable item, but you could get two teams out of
the Big West this year, like Irvine and UCSB both
look to be like teams that like one of those
teams could earn an at large bit this year. So
I can't put you off that.
Speaker 3: I always feel that we say that every year about
the Big West, like, oh, I love two teams to
get in and then you know, March rolls around and
maybe one of them falters. I feel that that's not
the first time we've had this cut. Yeah, collect that's.
Speaker 1: The ncaaa's fault though, because there should have been too
last year. Irvine deserved to go last year along with
w you see San Diego. In my opinions, Brian, I'll
go to you, do you want to do you want
to hit us with a little promo and then maybe
do you have your parlay Lake.
Speaker 3: I am actually dutifully putting my parlay leg together. Let's
get the promo out first, though, because you mentioned it earlier, Treg,
I should have my mouse.
Speaker 4: Plugged it for the show. Much worse when I use
the camera for that spot.
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Speaker 4: Leg I'm gonna go.
Speaker 3: Didn't hit it last I Trigg high scoring second half
killed doomed us in the Kent State game. Kent State
better from three than I anticipated this year, and that
was what doomed me.
Speaker 4: But we're gonna go back to another under.
Speaker 3: And it's gonna be more Head State Clemson under this total.
The over is taking money here, and it's at one
forty seven and a half as I speak. I think
there is now some value at pushing back on the market.
Has put up big point totals in its first two
games eighty eight and ninety seven, but those were against
New Hampshire and Gardner Web. Morehead State guys is a
team that can clean up the glass. Uh defensively, I
think they can limit second chances here. This is a
game I just think. I just think that this total move.
This is one we've talked about in the first week
plus of the show. Sometimes, Hey, it doesn't matter if
you bet the game at six in the morning or
six at night. You're cashing on these totals, whether you
get the best of the worst number. This is one
where I think it's heading in the wrong direction. I'm
going under Morehead State Clemson for my portion.
Speaker 1: Of the parlay, and can you just give me that
number one more time? Ave Morehead Clemson under one forty
seven and a half. All right. If you were going
to the game, I would say, it's no brainer. Yeah,
you know, we'll have to Like Brian, I was watching
that Ken State What Willing Can game last night, and
I was like, in my head, I was like, if
we were there, he'd find a way to kill this
this pace somehow. Yeah, I mean you had like I
think you had like five points of cld on on
the closing number on that one went.
Speaker 3: On, which which sometimes I feel is always the kiss
of death. I don't know, Like I know a lot
of people love to do a little dance when they
have that. For me, I'm always like, oh no, you know, yeah,
because it did. I think it closed five and a half.
We gave it out at one sixty and a half.
So I was like, oh no.
Speaker 5: All right, I'll get you just I know what he
clarified real quick, Adam, Just because I gave you a
number of nine and a half, which was the number
when we came on the air in that Santa Barber game.
Speaker 2: That number is currently eight and a half.
Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, we have a lot of yet, I
don't know.
Speaker 5: Looking at the line movements, it changed about fifty five
minutes ago from nine and a half bet all the
way up to ten and then some take back.
Speaker 2: Now at eight and a half.
Speaker 4: Wow, they're bet.
Speaker 1: Not possible for anyone to bet the parlay yet because
they don't know the third leg, so we can we
will go. We've been sort of going with like what
it is at the end of the show and uh yeah,
so eight and a half is good there, We've got
one forty seven and a half on the uh the
morehead Clemson under and I will so we've got thirteen
minutes of the show left. I will uh, I reckon up.
Speaker 4: I just jump in real quick trick because this is crazy.
Speaker 3: This Louisville people are betting Louisville like they know the
final score right now.
Speaker 4: This numbers up the six and a half at this
that's insane.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw that. That was it's been that. It's
been like that for a little bit yet. Bit you
have to think. You have to think someone comes in
and takes Kentucky at some point, but.
Speaker 4: Maybe Mark Pope is doing Jerry duty. I don't know.
Speaker 1: That is yeah, that is. I saw that. The guy
that keeps breaking those like fake stories like it has
like Sunny Courtland alum in his bio, which I think
is funny. That's where Mallory went to undergrad and that's
where like it's like very close to where the three
school up here in Central New York. So I got
a good, good laugh at that. I'm gonna close the
parley out. So Brian, you know, sometimes people are like Trigg,
You're you're you're out at games. You're you're better served
behind the computer screen for us, you know, we don't
know why you're going all over, you know, to all
these different games. What does that really what does that
really do? And and so a couple of things. One
people were saying that every once in a while one
I get to make some cool content too. I do
enjoy going to basketball games and getting to see the
different arenas, getting to experience like what a game is
like at a Toledo as opposed to like a Bowling
Green as opposed to like going to a game like
Brian and I went to on Saturday night, Top twenty
five sold out one of the sort of pre you know,
best venues in the country for college basketball, at the
Breslin Center. But and I talked about this to Brian.
We were in the car a lot together this weekend,
so we had a lot of time to chat. I
feel like I learned some very actionable stuff when when
I go to games like this, and so I'm gonna
give you one of my client plays tonight, and the
breakdown is heavily like something that I feel like I
picked up this weekend when Brian and I were in
Toledo watching Toledo and Marshall. So three percent play for me,
it's one of my client plays.
Speaker 2: Today.
Speaker 1: I took the Toledo Rockets plus five and a half.
And the reason that I like Toledo to bounce back
here is I think they are finally going to get
to see something other than a really good zone defense.
So the first two games of the year, they played
South Alabama and they played Marshall, and you know, Brian
and I got to go to this little sort of
we got to hear the Todd Father, Todd Kualcik, their
head coach, sort of address some of the season ticket
holders and stuff and talk about the game before the game.
I sort of listened to some of his postgame comments
as well after the fact, and it sounds to me
like they really like would love to see something other
than his zone. And even if Wright State can put
them in any sort of zone. Craig Sargent is gonna
make them a bet, like he's really emphasizing defense for
Right State this year, and I do like that Right
State team, but there is no way. So one of
two things is gonna happen here. Either they're gonna go
zone Right State and it's going to be worse than
the South Alabama zone that's very good, or Marshall zone,
which is now anchored by the seven foot four Matthew
van Coman, which is like a very unique scenario. How
many teams are you gonna find in the country that
can anchor a zone with a seven foot four rim
protector who's also become a very very good shot blocker,
very very good rebounder, like he kind of is the
total package at this level. So either Right State is
going to try to play zone and not do it
as well as the other two teams, or they're gonna go,
which is more their traditional defense, man to man, and
I think Toledo will just be thanking the heavens that
they're finally gonna see some man to man, which I
think they match up better again. So you've got Toledo
coming in Ozho and too too home. Two losses on
their home court, which is like probably a little uncharacteristic.
I don't think this is going to be a great
Toledo team. I think they're a middling team in the
MAC this year. But you mean to tell me I
can get five and a half points, Brian and I
have not been to the Nutter Center yet, but I
don't think there's gonna be like some sort of crazy
Nutter Center atmosphere tonight for this game. So not going
to give them a huge home court. I see a
lot of value in Toledo at five and a half
in a game that I think they can win, and
that is a three percent play for me, and maybe
one I'll even upgrade. And if I do, I'll uh,
you know, well, I guess you have to be I
guess you have to be one of my clients to
know if I upgrade it or not to a four.
But I'm thinking about it, and I really like the
Rockets plus five and a half, so that will close
out the parlay. I remember anything.
Speaker 4: I remember saying that. I remember that it's funny. I
had a little bit of a chuckle.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I the people watch and could
see me chuckle, but I chuckled internally there because I
remember you talking about.
Speaker 4: That on the way home.
Speaker 3: That to you know, how they needed to get away
from the opponent's playing zone. So this was something that
everybody you talk about. You know, Trigg mentioned how he
takes things away from these live experiences. This is something
Trigg was talking about on Sunday, So he's definitely Well.
Speaker 1: Just Brian, I mean, I mean we were just remember
the second half of that Marshall game. They totally I mean,
Marshall wed that was I thought you, I didn't know
if you snuck off into the locker room we had
some access, and like, because that Marshall defense was outstanding
in the second half, Toledo just went from like a
comfortable first half lead to getting completely blown out of
their own gym, and Marshall locked him down.
Speaker 3: I feel with a couple of minutes left, Toledo only
had fifteen points in the second half. Yes, right, I
remember remarking that because they were up forty to thirty
at half and I and I was like, they were
at fifty five, and I turned to you, I said,
oh my god, they scored fifteen points in this half.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a It was a great defensive effort
in the second half from uh from Marshall, and I
really think they just you know, they have the ability
to tweak that zone with the seven foot four center.
Not gonna you know, you're not gonna get that out
of right state tonight. So just just a lot of
ways Toledo can have a much better game than they
had the first couple of games where they were just
up against it from a style standpoint. Let's see, Rob,
you know what we gotta we on the way out,
we got we gotta talk Creighton and Zaga Firman and
it's another big game, another another Top twenty five matchup.
Brian and I were at dinner trying to like watch
some of this game, and I was like, I think
I watched two possessions on my phone. I was like,
don't even bother asking them to change. If this game's over,
Gonzaga got anything they wanted at the rim, it was
a no contest. Uh Got tells me maybe something similar
happens tonight. What do you think, Rob, Well.
Speaker 2: The front court's elite, right, you got grahamy k, Braden.
Speaker 5: Hoof yet I'm tying Grant Foster, who gave him twenty
two minutes the other night. So that front court's elite,
Creighton's gonna have to try and match up with it. Obviously,
Creighton's not a gelled product yet, Adam, But you have,
I mean the paar of Iowa transfers right, Dixon Freeman,
Owen Freeman gives them three six tens in this game,
which should be able to compete. Owen Freeman is a
guy that's not just and correct. He was hurt a
lot of last year for Iowa, and Iowa went straight
downhill when Owen Freeman got hurt. Not that they're good defensively,
but they were even worse defensively. But Owen Freeman's a
guy that is almost like a point center where you
can feed him the ball at the foul line. He
can make plays out of that assist wise, shot wise, off.
Speaker 2: The bounce wise.
Speaker 5: So I think Creighton's got abilities here. Dix is a
knockdown three point shooter. They've got a couple of three
point shooters. It may take time for them to develop,
but they've got pieces here that could give Creighton or.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, good Zaga a problem for a while.
Speaker 5: The problem for me is I absolutely feel like there's
a run tonight out of Gonzaga where it just becomes,
you know, you lose touch.
Speaker 2: So to speak with them, they.
Speaker 5: Put together one of those five minutes spurts where they
go sixteen to two or something like that. It opens
the game up, and then Creighton just can't. They have
to go bombs away to try and catch up, and
it doesn't work out. So for me, I think, in
summary real quick here, Creighton's a team I'll have my
eye on to get better as the season goes on,
because I think the parts are good. But right now,
Gonzaga is certainly the well oiled machine, and like you say,
interior wise, they do cause a problem for anybody, even
if you do have three six tens on your team.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, we've talked about numbers on the movie.
I didn't think coming, you know, knowing we were going
to be talking about this game to day, I didn't
think I would have any interest in the Creighton side.
Gonzaga is a team that I've projected for the most
wins regular season wins in the country this year. That
should be no surprise year in year out there in
that discussion, But you know, then you wake up Tuesday morning,
you see where the line's at, how it's moved, and
you say, oh, man, I kind of want to punch
back a little bit of this, And it looks like
some people are because correct me if I'm wrong. About
an hour ago, I thought I saw this at like thirteen,
and now it's back down to eleven and a half.
Was that some sort of sunshine daydream, guys that I
was having, or or no? Because I thought it was Okay,
I a ton of money, so okay, you probably now
here's the thing with Crate. I talked to our good friend,
uh Drake, our good friend Clint after the Crate in
South Dakota game, his feeling that Creighton might really struggle
on the glass once they get in the teeth of
Biggie's play, and Rob brought up the front court of Gonzaga.
That tells me, you know, I just saw someone pop
in the chat at that the front court for Gonzaga
could be the major problem in this game. I'm wondering,
you know, as I listened to Rob breakdown the game
and saying Creighton can keep this close for a while,
is this one of those situations where if they're not
covering early, they're not covering late. And perhaps you consider
Creighton first half because you know, I don't envision, you know,
game script wise, they get down big and then fight
their way back into the number. To me, if Creighton
covers this number, it's gonna be with the solid first
twenty minutes. Rob mentioned Freeman. You know, McDermott said, He
basically admitted in his own words quote, we have a
lot of work to do with this team, obviously, but
there are some pieces I think we could work with.
Rob mentioned Freeman, He mentioned Dix. Nine Crane's got you know,
they lose called for maybe they've got some depth. Nine
guys are averaging fourteen minutes per game, So I don't know.
I think maybe if you're interested in the Creighton side,
first half might be an interesting angle. What is that
number here? Six and a half more than two possessions?
I don't I actually don't hate that.
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, no question Creighton's rim defense takes a hit.
No cap Renner. You know, I thought the number was
was too high as well, Like I actually only made
this Creighton plus five and a half. I just very
much disagree with my number right there because and so
a couple of things that that sort of, you know,
put me off of this even showing like a little
bit of value on the number. Uh, when does Gonzaga
get a team like this to come in the kennel anymore?
It's usually it's usually the ranked team that comes to
play them is typically Saint Mary's. It's and it's because
it's a conference game, or like you know, they'll get
like maybe like another West Coast like you know, they'll
maybe get a Washington State to come in or like,
you know, someone like that. It's typically not a big
East team that's also in the top twenty five. So
so it's it's gonna be a crazy atmosphere tonight. And
then to go back to your point, Yeah, our buddy
Clint Is was probably watching that game with a South
Dakota lens if you will. He is, that's where he's from,
that's the program he knows extremely well. South Dakota kind
of crushed them on the glass in that game. I
think they had like over two offensive rebounds and I'm
pretty sure South Dakota is still down their best player
or one of their best players, and they were very
competitive in that game with Creighton, So I have no
interest in Creighton for that reason, but also can't lay
a crazy number with Gonzaga. All right, we have hit
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