Speaker 1: Oh bed of that are.
Speaker 2: Nod of are hello and welcome to the show. This
Speaker 2: is the Cults of Conspiracy And my name is Jonathan,
Speaker 2: I'm Jacob and Jacob. You know, we always think that
Speaker 2: our phones are just reading our minds. I had this
Speaker 2: thought and all of a sudden, I I got an
Speaker 2: ad for magic double fisting dildo's.
Speaker 1: How did it know? Right?
Speaker 2: Like, it's always I mean, not me, per se, I'm
Speaker 2: not dreaming of that, but you know, I'm sure some
Speaker 2: people are. I mean, you know, you don't want to
Speaker 2: yuck somebody's young, but you don't. I'm trying to say
Speaker 2: that sometimes our thoughts can just magically seemingly manifest onto
Speaker 2: our phone screen. Isn't that strange?
Speaker 1: Very much so?
Speaker 3: And yes, we do know that phones are listening, right.
Speaker 3: There's been the examples of people. That was a husband
Speaker 3: and wife couple. They don't own a cat, but for
Speaker 3: a week they just randomly would mention to each other, Oh, hey,
Speaker 3: we need to make sure we go get cat food
Speaker 3: this weekend, and we need to do this, do this,
Speaker 3: do this. About a week later, they started seeing ads
Speaker 3: for cat food all over the place, coupons and things
Speaker 3: on their YouTube, on their Instagram on all of these
Speaker 3: things because their phone was listening well.
Speaker 2: And it's actually a lot more sinister than that, because
Speaker 2: it's not only is your phone and all of your
Speaker 2: other devices connected to the Internet listening to the sound
Speaker 2: of your voice. They're also monitoring your emotions. They're picking
Speaker 2: up on your electro and cephalograph readings via your phone.
Speaker 2: Ee G, had to look that one up. But yeah,
Speaker 2: they're monitoring literally everything. They are collecting data that you
Speaker 2: didn't even know was possible, and that is sick. And
Speaker 2: now it's not just happening on small scale. All the
Speaker 2: big companies, all the big corporations, all of your politicians,
Speaker 2: all of Hollywood, all of the music industry, anybody that
Speaker 2: wants to collect data off of you. They are using this. Okay,
Speaker 2: like this is it's crazy. So tonight we enter a
Speaker 2: realm that makes Orwelian surveillance. So I always fucking butcher
Speaker 2: that word surveillance Orwellian Oh oh oh did I fuck
Speaker 2: that word up to? You said Orwelian, And I was like,
Speaker 2: orwellian or Waliabelian surveillance or well or well yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: orwelliance look like child's play. We're going to be getting
Speaker 2: into neural marketing, the corporate, scientific, and psychological manipulation of
Speaker 2: every thought and decision that you have. Have you ever
Speaker 2: wondered why you felt the need to buy something at
Speaker 2: three o'clock in the morning off of your phone. Why
Speaker 2: that one ad seems to know you better than your spouse.
Speaker 2: That's not a coincidence. That's not targeted advertising. That's neural manipulation.
Speaker 2: And it may be the foundation of something far darker,
Speaker 2: the BT system of revelation. Dare I say, where buying
Speaker 2: and selling is no longer governed by free will, but
Speaker 2: by digital overlords mapping the terrain of your soul. All right,
Speaker 2: it sounds kind of crazy, It might sound kind of
Speaker 2: out there, but the sciences there in all of the
Speaker 2: big scientific publishers, have been talking about it for years. Okay,
Speaker 2: and you know what I feel like, I can just
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Speaker 2: that's the way you do it. Anyhow, back to the
Speaker 2: receipts over here. I get as amped up as you
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Speaker 1: But I love it. I absolutely love it. Plus I
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Speaker 2: Fuck yeah, let's go fucking nay. So let's go over
Speaker 2: to wicked Pedia, as some people like to call it,
Speaker 2: and we're going to talk about neuro marketing. Neuro Marketing
Speaker 2: is a commercial marketing communication field that applies neuropsychology to
Speaker 2: market research, studying consumers sensory, sensory, motor, cognitive, and effective
Speaker 2: responses to marketing stimuli. The potential benefits to marketers includes
Speaker 2: more efficient and effective marketing campaigns and strategies, fewer product
Speaker 2: and campaign failures, and ultimately, the manipulation of the real
Speaker 2: needs and wants of people to suit the needs and
Speaker 2: wants of marketing interests like Okay, sounds good. It sounds
Speaker 2: like they figured something out, but how are they getting it?
Speaker 2: You know? Certain companies, particularly those with large scale ambitions
Speaker 2: to predict consumer behavior, have invested in their own laboratories,
Speaker 2: science personnel, or partnerships with academia neuromarketing is still an
Speaker 2: expensive approach. Obviously, it requires advanced equipment and technologies such
Speaker 2: as magnetic resonance imaging or MRI, motion capture for eye tracking,
Speaker 2: and the electro in cephalogram. Given the amount of new
Speaker 2: learnings for neuroscience and marketing research, marketers have begun applying
Speaker 2: neuromarketing best practices without needing to engage in expensive testing.
Speaker 2: So there's a whole like crazy history, dude, it's started
Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety They started this neuromarketing shit. Obviously smaller
Speaker 2: scale than it is today, but yeah.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 2: Neuromarketing is an emergency or an emerging disciplinary field in marketing.
Speaker 2: It borrows tools and methodologies from fields such as neuroscience
Speaker 2: and sienchology. The term neuromarketing was introduced by different authors
Speaker 2: in two thousand and two, but research in the field
Speaker 2: can be found from the nineteen nineties. Gerald Zaltmand is
Speaker 2: associated with one of the first experience or experiments in neuromarketing.
Speaker 2: In the late nineteen nineties, Gemma Calvert and Gerald Zaltman
Speaker 2: had established consumer neuroscience companies. Marketing professor Gerald Zaltman patent
Speaker 2: did the Zaltman metaphor elicitation technique or the z MET
Speaker 2: in the nineteen nineties to sell advertising. Z MET explored
Speaker 2: the human subconscious with specially selected sets of images that
Speaker 2: can cause a positive emotional response and activate hidden images
Speaker 2: metaphors stimulating the purchase. They're digging into your subconscious to
Speaker 2: try and see what you don't even know what your
Speaker 2: subconscious you know, ultimately wants most of the time. Like
Speaker 2: you know, we talk about the Golden Arches with McDonald's
Speaker 2: why is it yellow? Why is it it? Triggers an
Speaker 2: emotional hunger response right well read in particular, but still so.
Speaker 2: Graphical collages were constructed on the base of detected images,
Speaker 2: which lays in the basis for commercials. Z MET quickly
Speaker 2: gained popularity among hundreds of major companies customers, including Coca Cola,
Speaker 2: General Murder Murders, Yeah, Freudy insulate there but anyway, General Motors,
Speaker 2: Nesley and Procter, and Gamble. Saltman and his associates were
Speaker 2: employed by those organizations to investigate brain scans and observe
Speaker 2: the neural activity for consumers. In nineteen ninety nine, he
Speaker 2: began to use functional magnetic resonance imaging or fMRI to
Speaker 2: show correlations between consumer brain activity and marketing stimuli. Saltman's
Speaker 2: research or marketing research methods enhanced psychological research used in
Speaker 2: marketing tools. So yeah, then it goes down and you
Speaker 2: know it talks about how old. This is crazy. So
Speaker 2: do you remember the pepsi challenge that was going on
Speaker 2: back in the day when.
Speaker 3: They had coke and pepsi under a thing to see
Speaker 3: which one the people would like more if it was
Speaker 3: a blind taste test. Yeah, yeah, and statistically people and
Speaker 3: I don't agree with this because pepsi is in fact commie.
Speaker 1: Juice, but fine, okay, but on a blind.
Speaker 3: Taste test, more people decided that they liked pepsi more
Speaker 3: than coke. And you would think that Coca Cola would
Speaker 3: try to pull that ad and that commercial down. They
Speaker 3: never touched it. They were like, fine, run it, we
Speaker 3: don't care because two to one people are more likely
Speaker 3: to buy Coca Cola than they are pepsi regardless of
Speaker 3: what your blind taste tests showed.
Speaker 1: And the math was correct on that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah, well and actually this neuroscience essentially proved that,
Speaker 2: And dude, it gets even crazier to where they knew
Speaker 2: for a fact that even the people that said that
Speaker 2: they preferred Pepsi still actually preferred coke, but they just
Speaker 2: wanted to be a little different. How crazy is that?
Speaker 1: It's a thing, dude.
Speaker 3: Coca Cola is the largest beverage company on earth.
Speaker 1: Pepsi tried so hard to fight with them.
Speaker 3: And we've talked about this too, But if anybody's curious
Speaker 3: why certain restaurants and fast food chains sell Pepsi products
Speaker 3: rather than coke, it's because Pepsi owns them and that's
Speaker 3: the only way that they could make sure that people
Speaker 3: were drinking their product. And to stay semi competitive with coke,
Speaker 3: they had to buy multiple franchise fast food chains just
Speaker 3: to be able to put Pepsi Cola products into them.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, it's I mean, they got a little
Speaker 2: desperate there. But so, just getting back to it. The
Speaker 2: term neuromarketing was first published in two thousand and two
Speaker 2: in the major thesis of Associate Professor Philip Morrell, then
Speaker 2: a student at Ecal Nationale Superior de Architecture d Paris, Belleville, Paris.
Speaker 2: Thing So the chapter called Capitalism two info Capitalism Experience.
Speaker 2: So it says it contains a development with sub chapter
Speaker 2: hyper rational Anticipation, neuroscience and Neuromarketing. The same year, the
Speaker 2: term neuromarketing was published in an article by Brightehause, a
Speaker 2: marketing firm based in Atlanta and used by Dutch marketing
Speaker 2: professor al SMIs Brighthause sponsored neurophysiologic research into marketing divisions.
Speaker 2: They constructed a business unit that used FMRRI scans for
Speaker 2: market research purposes. The firm rapidly attracted criticism and disapproval
Speaker 2: concerning conflict of interest with Emory University, who helped establish
Speaker 2: the division. This enterprise disappeared from public attention and now
Speaker 2: works with over five hundred clients and consumer product consumer
Speaker 2: product businesses. The quote unquote Pepsi challenge, a blind taste
Speaker 2: test of Coca cola and pepsi, was a study conducted
Speaker 2: in two thousand and four that brought attention to neuromarketing.
Speaker 2: So literally, this is where that Pepsi challenge, that's really
Speaker 2: where all this shit really got put on the map
Speaker 2: by the big companies because they saw, you know, all
Speaker 2: the test results and they were able to monitors people's
Speaker 2: reactions and just see where the electricity is firing off
Speaker 2: in the brain and all this weird shit.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So then in two thousand and six, doctor Carl Marcy
Speaker 2: founded Innerscope Research that focused on neuromarketing research. Interscope Research
Speaker 2: was later acquired by the Nielsen Corporation in May of
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen and renamed Nielsen Consumer Neuroscience. Fun little fact
Speaker 2: about Nielsen. Do you know what that is?
Speaker 1: A Nielsen like a Nielsen device.
Speaker 2: The Nielsen Corporation is what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: Okay, no, no, no, I say.
Speaker 3: When I hear Nielsen, my brain goes immediately to suppressors
Speaker 3: on like pistols.
Speaker 1: A Nielsen device is like a little.
Speaker 3: Spring loaded thing to where you you may not get
Speaker 3: all the gas to reach argein like cycle around. So
Speaker 3: you put a Nielsen device. It's like a little spring
Speaker 3: device that helps you get these slide moving. But okay,
Speaker 3: so tell me about this other thing.
Speaker 2: So Nielsen is uh whenever I moved my into my
Speaker 2: apartment in uh in Texas, it was like a week
Speaker 2: that I'd been living here and this Nielsen company comes
Speaker 2: and knocks at my door and they they sit us
Speaker 2: down and they're like, hey, we would like you to
Speaker 2: participate in this this Nielsen study essentially, which was essentially
Speaker 2: what they would do is that they would take like
Speaker 2: this this bar and it was like just a little
Speaker 2: digital screen and you you know, you would see the
Speaker 2: certain numbers on there, one, two, three, four, five, six.
Speaker 2: However many people you have in your house, and every
Speaker 2: time somebody is watching TV, you have to put who's
Speaker 2: watching it, and you are assigned to a number. So
Speaker 2: I was number one, and you know, in the rest
Speaker 2: of my family, they each got a number as well, right,
Speaker 2: So they were able to see who was watching what
Speaker 2: and for how long, and they were able to collect
Speaker 2: all of that data and all that information. So if
Speaker 2: you think about it, they were collecting what you were watching,
Speaker 2: what commercial came on that made you change the channel
Speaker 2: in the first place. And it dude, it was monitoring YouTube.
Speaker 2: It was it was monitoring Hulu and Netflix and like
Speaker 2: fucking all of the apps, right, and it was like
Speaker 2: super deep. Anyway, they ended up paying I mean that's
Speaker 2: why I took it because whenever I first moved here,
Speaker 2: everything be expensive as fuck. And Katie, so they were like, look,
Speaker 2: if you sign up, we'll give you I think it
Speaker 2: was like two hundred bucks and then they were paying
Speaker 2: us like sixty bucks a month. I was like, what's
Speaker 2: all I gotta do is just hit a button on
Speaker 2: my remote? Like I didn't even think twice about it.
Speaker 2: I was like, whatever, And now you see that, literally
Speaker 2: this neuro marketing goes back to Nielsen or at least
Speaker 2: one of the main companies. Nielsen is marketing all of
Speaker 2: that all of that data, right, So anyway, it says
Speaker 2: Unilevers Consumer Research Exploratory Fund or Kraft had also published
Speaker 2: white papers on the potential applications of neuromarketing. So it it.
Speaker 2: We're gonna get into all of this. I kind of
Speaker 2: just wanted to show you like a couple of receipts
Speaker 2: whenever we're talking about this, and yeah, it gets it
Speaker 2: gets pretty damn sinister. So we're gonna go back. Uh
Speaker 2: let's see here, Okay, So yeah there, Uh basically, you know,
Speaker 2: is it like the B system possibly you know, you
Speaker 2: don't even have your own free will, Your subconscious has
Speaker 2: been hacked by essentially.
Speaker 1: The B system.
Speaker 3: You talking like drones that just kind of do the
Speaker 3: bidding of the queen hive mentality.
Speaker 2: Beast as in fucking Beelzebub and Bail and Lucifer and
Speaker 2: all that shit.
Speaker 1: Right, gotcha got your book of revelation.
Speaker 2: Shit kind of yeah, I mean it could be a
Speaker 2: step far, but let's find out. Right. So, because everybody
Speaker 2: thinks that something is the beasts system, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, It's like, you know, your phone is that,
Speaker 2: or Neurolink's going to be that, and it's always or
Speaker 2: AI is that. It's like everybody. It's like everybody has
Speaker 2: a reason why. You know, the Antichrist is the president
Speaker 2: that is the current president.
Speaker 3: Every time, it kills me when people make that connection
Speaker 3: to everyone. George Bush, clearly, Obama, clearly, Trump, clearly, Elon.
Speaker 3: It's like, wait, what when did Elon join the conference?
Speaker 1: I know, I know it's one of them things.
Speaker 2: To be honest, Elon makes the most sense, but we're
Speaker 2: not getting into that today. This has nothing to do
Speaker 2: with that. But it might. It might because Elon just
Speaker 2: did create a presidential party and it was it called
Speaker 2: like the American Patriot Party or some shit, and and
Speaker 2: he's gonna be running. I guess he tried kissing Trump's
Speaker 2: ass again and then I guess it failed, and now
Speaker 2: Trump Russell failure.
Speaker 1: He wasn't born in America.
Speaker 3: Elon's gonna trust well, I mean, neither was Obama and
Speaker 3: he won the presidency.
Speaker 2: Saw, I mean, fuck, maybe Elon will pull some dumb
Speaker 2: shit like that. No, he already said that he wouldn't run.
Speaker 2: It would just be his party that he's creating. Obviously,
Speaker 2: he's an African American after.
Speaker 1: All, he is.
Speaker 2: Indeed, he is Indeed, So what is neuromarketing? Just to
Speaker 2: get a little bit more in depth here, So, neuromarketing
Speaker 2: is the fusion of neuroscience and advertising. Companies use brain scans,
Speaker 2: eye tracking, and biometric sensors to analyze your unconscious reactions
Speaker 2: to stimuli. They can craft marketing campaigns designed to bypass
Speaker 2: logic and hit your primal instincts like fear, lust, status,
Speaker 2: and safety. Almost everybody's living in that nowadays, right, almost
Speaker 2: every single person is living in that nowadays. And it's like,
Speaker 2: of course, you know why they want everybody to you know,
Speaker 2: always always think about fucking always think about being scared,
Speaker 2: always worried about your status. I can't be having people
Speaker 2: know this about me and then obviously your safety with
Speaker 2: all the surveillance, right.
Speaker 1: That, I mean, realistically line that out right.
Speaker 3: Sex cells That is a concept that everybody is very
Speaker 3: familiar with, and it's very true. I wouldn't say that
Speaker 3: safety cells, but security. That cells, right, people feeling like
Speaker 3: they're secure, feeling like they're safe, and out loud saying
Speaker 3: that safety cells. That doesn't sound sexy, but if you
Speaker 3: freeze it a certain way, I agree with you one
Speaker 3: hundred percent. People are absolutely willing to sell their freedom
Speaker 3: for security.
Speaker 1: We saw that during.
Speaker 3: COVID case in point the other one, you said, status, Oh,
Speaker 3: big dog, how many people do you personally know they
Speaker 3: play that keeping up with the Joneses game and then
Speaker 3: end up bankrupt because they just had to have the
Speaker 3: new car, They had to have a house this size,
Speaker 3: they had to have a big TV like this, and
Speaker 3: they just played that game even though they couldn't afford it,
Speaker 3: but they just had to keep up with their neighbors.
Speaker 1: Status is a big one.
Speaker 2: It's consumer materialism. Like the fucking most materialist country on
Speaker 2: the fucking place of the on the face of the
Speaker 2: earth in human history and the last one. So there
Speaker 2: was fear lust status and safety.
Speaker 1: Fear. Fear is a very very powerful motivator.
Speaker 3: Why do y'all think that they constantly every news channel, everyone, CNN, Fox, MSNBC.
Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson, that doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: Okay, why do you think that every single news cast,
Speaker 3: news channel, whatever is consistently trying to keep us in
Speaker 3: a perpetual state of fear and panic as it is
Speaker 3: emotivating in sales tactic onndred percent.
Speaker 2: Oh dude, it's neuro hacking, is what it is. So
Speaker 2: and it could be just to push fear. It could
Speaker 2: be just to push push lust because they want to
Speaker 2: break up the nuclear family, right like, we need more,
Speaker 2: We need more people working. We can't be having stayed
Speaker 2: at home moms anymore. We need every ass at some
Speaker 2: computer desk working for some big corporation, and everything is.
Speaker 2: And so imagine ads not designed to inform but to
Speaker 2: stimulate your amygdala, triggering a survival response. That's not marketing,
Speaker 2: that's behavioral warfare. In this paradigm, your biology becomes the
Speaker 2: battlefield and your emotions become the weaponized terrain. So here's
Speaker 2: the philosophical punch. If your decisions are being manipulated before
Speaker 2: you're even aware of them, are you still the one deciding?
Speaker 1: I think not. That's a good question.
Speaker 2: I think not. So where it all started and the
Speaker 2: science behind it. So we're gonna go from psychology to
Speaker 2: propaganda to brain scans. So the roots of neuromarketing trace
Speaker 2: back to the Cold War era, when governments realized that
Speaker 2: controlling the narrative wasn't enough. They needed to control perception.
Speaker 2: In the early two thousands, companies began using fMRI scans
Speaker 2: to see which parts of the brain lit up in
Speaker 2: response to various brands, sens or slogans. The most famous experiment,
Speaker 2: as we talked about before, was the Pepsi challenge, and people,
Speaker 2: would you know, it seemed like a fun thing to do.
Speaker 2: Everybody's doing it. Let's try it. You know. Nowadays, of
Speaker 2: course you'd have a million tiktoks made about it. You know,
Speaker 2: they didn't have TikTok back then. But so blind taste
Speaker 2: tests as far as the Pepsi challenge, blind tastes showed
Speaker 2: people preferred pepsi but when but when told what they
Speaker 2: were drinking. Brain scans revealed that coca cola lit up
Speaker 2: the emotional memory centers of the brain. People felt more
Speaker 2: connected to coke regardless of taste. That's when marketers realized
Speaker 2: emotion beats logic every single time. This is where the
Speaker 2: rabbit hole deepens, because it shows that memories, identity, and
Speaker 2: buying decisions are not separate, they're entangled. If corporations can
Speaker 2: craft emotional resonance into products, they're not just branding, they're
Speaker 2: rewriting your emotional landscape. And you know what this reminds
Speaker 2: me of is they're remaking all of the old movies
Speaker 2: like It's It's you already have that attachment to it.
Speaker 2: You remember whenever your family took you to the drive
Speaker 2: in movie theater, whenever you were seven years old, or
Speaker 2: you remember sitting at home eating popcorn, you know, being
Speaker 2: a little kid. After you made like a little tunnel
Speaker 2: for it, and your you know, your brother and sister
Speaker 2: are playing into it, and that movie is kind of
Speaker 2: a core memory, and so it kind of is in
Speaker 2: that sense. I would suggest that all the remakes are
Speaker 2: trying to dial in on this. I would say, I.
Speaker 3: Think it's like a two It's a one to two punch,
Speaker 3: right number one, you're already you already are going off
Speaker 3: of the market.
Speaker 1: Base for a film that you know was successful.
Speaker 3: Right, Basically, all you have to do is just revamp
Speaker 3: it and resell it, and the people the Disney adults
Speaker 3: will go to it and they'll bring their kids, and
Speaker 3: you're just you're perpetuating the cycle.
Speaker 1: Other side of that, I think that Hollywood is out
Speaker 1: of ideas. I'm gonna be real with you.
Speaker 3: I think that the AI writer strike conversation pretty much
Speaker 3: showed that the writers in Hollywood are completely out of
Speaker 3: inspiration and ideas. They've done everything that's possible. Now all
Speaker 3: they have left is to remake old stuff. But that
Speaker 3: plays into the favor of the big corporations because like,
Speaker 3: we're already going off of a model.
Speaker 1: That has worked before, so why not run that bitch again.
Speaker 2: Well, it's not even so much that there's I mean,
Speaker 2: I believe that they're probably out of ideas, but think
Speaker 2: about the guidelines that they have to adhere nowadays. You
Speaker 2: got to make sure it's not racist. You gotta make
Speaker 2: sure it's not sexist. You gotta make sure you have
Speaker 2: a gay person in the movie. You got to make
Speaker 2: sure that the black person isn't killed first in every
Speaker 2: horror movie. Now, you know what I mean. And it's
Speaker 2: like all these things that kick back and people are
Speaker 2: getting canceled. I mean, you're having directors and you know,
Speaker 2: people that are actually writing the script for the movie
Speaker 2: and shooting the movie and the people that are acting.
Speaker 2: It's like there's so many fucking loose ends that you
Speaker 2: got to tie together now so that you don't piss
Speaker 2: somebody off in Hollywood, so that you don't get canceled.
Speaker 2: Because you get canceled, then you don't have a job.
Speaker 2: You have to go work at some bullshit job that
Speaker 2: you hate. Right. I think that a lot of it
Speaker 2: plays into it.
Speaker 3: It does, but I think you just touched on something
Speaker 3: next level with this as well. Right, because they have
Speaker 3: to follow so many guidelines, they've leaned so heavily into
Speaker 3: that they have changed the thing. Right, And yes, we
Speaker 3: have bitched about this with multiple different movies. And I'll
Speaker 3: just use snow White as an example. Just just a
Speaker 3: shot out of a cannon could have been. Name a
Speaker 3: movie that has been revamped that people are pissed about.
Speaker 1: There's a list. Okay, nobody was pissed at Beautying.
Speaker 3: The Beast when that movie came out because they stuck
Speaker 3: to the fucking program.
Speaker 2: And who doesn't love hermione exactly.
Speaker 3: Yes, there was there was a slight thing that some
Speaker 3: potential gay references that were made from uh what lafool
Speaker 3: towards Gaston. Yeah, but that that wasn't so blatant and obvious. Okay,
Speaker 3: not necessarily. You if you knew what you were looking at,
Speaker 3: you could have called it. But it didn't take away
Speaker 3: from the story in any way, shape or form. If anything,
Speaker 3: it made him look like even more of a lackey
Speaker 3: to Gaston. Right, it didn't take away cut to snow White.
Speaker 3: They changed it so much that you have thousands of
Speaker 3: reports of people walking out of the movie theater. Instead
Speaker 3: of Disney making their money off of this and revamping
Speaker 3: the old stuff and signaling those trigger responses from these
Speaker 3: kids who became adults and all these things. These people
Speaker 3: grew up with snowe and we're just gonna remake it.
Speaker 3: We and snow White's old, dude, that's like our grandparents
Speaker 3: remember seeing snow White in theaters and.
Speaker 1: Shit like this.
Speaker 3: Right, Instead, they pissed off three generations worth of their
Speaker 3: customer base because they went too far onto that side.
Speaker 1: So that's how this works.
Speaker 3: That neuro linguistic programming like we're talking about here, or
Speaker 3: the NeuroMedia, excuse me, they if they stick to it,
Speaker 3: they already know what the brain's responses are going to
Speaker 3: be from their customer base. They fucked it up, and
Speaker 3: now that might affect their sales in the future with
Speaker 3: other projects.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all about trying to walk the thin line
Speaker 2: that has been created due to every single person in
Speaker 2: this country being more opinionated than we should be. You
Speaker 2: know what I design.
Speaker 3: They built the fucking pire that they will be burned upon.
Speaker 1: That's insane. But they also they did it to themselves.
Speaker 2: But they did, they did, So back to it, We're
Speaker 2: going to get into the tools of said trade surveillance
Speaker 2: disguised as convenience. We've talked about this at nauseum. Really, dude,
Speaker 2: and anybody that has an Alexa in your house, in
Speaker 2: your kitchen, maybe you, hey, Alexa, what's the recipe? The
Speaker 2: fuck off? Right? Like whatever it is, It's like, my god,
Speaker 2: Like you're literally like inviting the CIA to listen in
Speaker 2: on your conversations and you're talking back to it. That's
Speaker 2: crazy to me.
Speaker 1: Absolutely agree.
Speaker 2: So now we're going to get into tech. Facial coding
Speaker 2: software maps your micro expressions, those subconscious flickers that you
Speaker 2: make when you love or hate something. I tracking software
Speaker 2: shows exactly what you focus on in a sea of images.
Speaker 2: Voice stress analysis can detect anxiety or arousal in your tone,
Speaker 2: and wearables like Apple watches track heart rate spikes when
Speaker 2: you see something compel. Yeah, I'm sorry. Nobody should be
Speaker 2: wearing fucking Apple watches. Nobody should be wearing I mean,
Speaker 2: you shouldn't be wearing anything connected to the Internet on
Speaker 2: your body, like you should. Don't even have your phone
Speaker 2: up to your head whenever you're talking to it, like
Speaker 2: it's it's just collecting data. It's not good for you. You know,
Speaker 2: you should know this by now. Everybody should know this
Speaker 2: by now. So so these tools aren't limited to labs anymore.
Speaker 2: They're embedded into your smartphone, your TV, your Amazon Echo.
Speaker 2: These devices don't just watch, they listen, learn and adapt.
Speaker 2: They feed your emotional data into neural networks to better
Speaker 2: predict how to make what you want in quotations. Now,
Speaker 2: ask yourself, is convenience the bait in this surveillance trap?
Speaker 2: Are we offering up our soul in exchange for speed,
Speaker 2: personalization and dopamine? I would say yes, yeah, of course,
Speaker 2: there's an ethical dilemma and we're going to get into that.
Speaker 2: And basically, your free will is for sale. So the
Speaker 2: ethics of neuromarketing are largely unregulated, unchallenged, and largely unspoken.
Speaker 2: You didn't sign a waiver to let advertisers into your hippocampus.
Speaker 2: There were no brain wave consent clauses. Instead, neuromarketing operates
Speaker 2: like spiritual fishing, tricking you into surrendering pieces of your will,
Speaker 2: and it doesn't hit everyone equally. Children whose prefrontal cortex
Speaker 2: isn't fully developed are prime targets, so are the poor,
Speaker 2: the anxious, and the chronically online. Those in survival mode
Speaker 2: are easier to hack. Of course it is.
Speaker 1: I believe this one hundred percent, dude.
Speaker 3: Survival mode means that you are basically acting only in
Speaker 3: your lizard brain, right, You're only going off of like
Speaker 3: impulse response and survival of the fittest has come to mind.
Speaker 3: So you get somebody who is addicted to doom scrolling, right,
Speaker 3: they are addicted to the dopamine dump and the serotonin
Speaker 3: that they get from it and all these things, and
Speaker 3: then you, I don't know, just throwing it out, yank
Speaker 3: their WiFi from them, and watch how quickly they go
Speaker 3: into panic mode. Oh it's so so easy to tip
Speaker 3: the scales for somebody that is unaware, like or in
Speaker 3: survival mode, even when they're unaware that they are in
Speaker 3: survival mode.
Speaker 2: Oh dude, Yeah, it's it's sick the way that they're
Speaker 2: just taking advantage of, you know, people like that. I mean,
Speaker 2: everybody's gone through anxiety or sadness or you know, maybe
Speaker 2: it could be anything, whatever your weakness is they're targeting
Speaker 2: Like that's evil, Like that's as evil as it gets,
Speaker 2: you know, and especially since they're targeting children more than anything.
Speaker 2: And you know, it's funny too. So y'all know, I
Speaker 2: love looking into you know, all the shit that I
Speaker 2: look into, and while I was doing research for d MT,
Speaker 2: and but I you know, a lot of that is
Speaker 2: connected to meditation. It's connected to prayer just as far
Speaker 2: as how your brain reacts. You know that whenever you're
Speaker 2: in deep meditation or you're in deep prayer, or you're
Speaker 2: in some kind of you know, psychedelic state of mind,
Speaker 2: that what goes off and what like where the essentially
Speaker 2: like the trigger gets switched in your mind. Is that
Speaker 2: whenever you are finally deep enough, you know, in meditation,
Speaker 2: whatever in prayer doesn't matter. Whenever you're finally deep, do
Speaker 2: you know, what gets turned off is your what is
Speaker 2: called the default mode network. And so now all of
Speaker 2: your anxiety, all of your fear, all of that shit
Speaker 2: is released because you're no longer in your primal state
Speaker 2: of mind anymore. You're no longer in that survival state
Speaker 2: of mind. You're in a whole nother state of mind,
Speaker 2: a whole nother realm, or whatever you want to call it. So, yeah,
Speaker 2: I believe that this may be one of the reasons
Speaker 2: why you know they're they're probably targeting religious things, and
Speaker 2: why why psychedelic drugs are fucking Schedule one drugs And
Speaker 2: you know, you get caught with a bag of mushrooms,
Speaker 2: you may as well be getting caught with a fucking
Speaker 2: bag of heroin. I believe that these are the reasons,
Speaker 2: are some of the reasons why at least, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, I could, I could at least get down
Speaker 1: with that for sure.
Speaker 3: And I mean, yeah, there's a whole list of reasons
Speaker 3: why psychedelics are listed as a Schedule one.
Speaker 1: I disagree with the list. I should make mention of that.
Speaker 3: I believe, you know, if you're a sane adult and
Speaker 3: you want to partake of a certain substance, you're a
Speaker 3: free individual, you should be allowed to do so. But
Speaker 3: I also believe that like, yo, if you want to
Speaker 3: be a heroin junkie, that's your rights to the human
Speaker 3: being to be a heroin junkie. The second that you
Speaker 3: try to like break into my car to steal something
Speaker 3: for your fix, now it becomes a me problem.
Speaker 1: And then that's that's a separate conversation.
Speaker 3: But for somebody who has the funds that just wants
Speaker 3: to do that, that go for it, right, But yes,
Speaker 3: to your point, to your point as far as how
Speaker 3: we what's parts of our brain are working whenever you're
Speaker 3: in meditation or in deep prayer or in a psychedelic experience.
Speaker 3: And I don't know the studies off top to say
Speaker 3: that it's doing the same thing with a psychedelic trip
Speaker 3: versus prayer versus deep meditation.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's very similar, if not.
Speaker 2: I mean varying degrees, but it's still doing somewhat the
Speaker 2: same thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Now, are you suggesting that the reason why psychedelics are
Speaker 3: on the list to the level they are is because
Speaker 3: they get people out of survival mode.
Speaker 2: That's one of the reasons. Yeah, Because look, one of
Speaker 2: the things that psychedelic does, or one of the things
Speaker 2: that psychedelics do to the mind is that it completely
Speaker 2: breaks you free from illusion. If you do enough, like
Speaker 2: if you do a heroic dosage, if you do a
Speaker 2: fucking DMT blast, you do ayahuasca, it completely like, dude,
Speaker 2: it separates you from the rest of the matrix. And
Speaker 2: now you're looking back at the matrix and everybody that's
Speaker 2: still stuck in it objectively right, and like you're no
Speaker 2: longer coming to the rhythms of normal, everyday life anymore. Therefore,
Speaker 2: you're not succumbing to the fear that's getting propagated. You're
Speaker 2: not succumbing to You're not wanting to listen to certain
Speaker 2: music that you know is going to affect you in
Speaker 2: negative kind of ways. You're not gonna be watching like
Speaker 2: the bullshit my daughter's currently watching fucking Dance Moms. That
Speaker 2: show gives me anxiety. I can't handle it.
Speaker 1: I can't see why.
Speaker 3: We need to get our kids away from these tablets
Speaker 3: and these devices.
Speaker 1: Y'all.
Speaker 3: Do not let your children be that kid that's doom
Speaker 3: scrolling on YouTube. Their brains do not need that right now.
Speaker 1: Put them in front of a book. That's what they need.
Speaker 2: Oh dude, it's the same reason why MOS's name Jobs.
Speaker 2: Steve Jobs never let his kids have a tablet or
Speaker 2: a phone or anything. The fucking creator of Apple products
Speaker 2: never let his kids play around in those things. It
Speaker 2: makes you wonder why exactly. So the question becomes, is
Speaker 2: this the digitization of sin? If we're now creating tools
Speaker 2: that bypass moral chills and hijack desire, have we stumbled
Speaker 2: into a new form of technocratic black magic. Now it's
Speaker 2: not gonna be a whole magic episode. But that was
Speaker 2: just a fun little quote. So now we're going to
Speaker 2: get into the data siphoning and consent. So big tech
Speaker 2: wants you to believe that the data collection is voluntary,
Speaker 2: that when you click except all cookies, you're agreeing to
Speaker 2: fair use. But that's not actually what's happening. Companies like
Speaker 2: Meta don't just track what you click. They track what
Speaker 2: you hover over, how long your thumb lingers, and whether
Speaker 2: your eyes widen when you scroll past a certain image.
Speaker 2: This emotional metadata is stored, analyzed, and fed into algorithms
Speaker 2: that you better know that know you better than you
Speaker 2: know yourself. Every micro gesture becomes a breadcrumb for behavior prediction.
Speaker 2: It's not about advertising anymore. It's about predictive control. And
Speaker 2: here's the disturbing truth. Consent isn't given applied by behavior
Speaker 2: in an environment designed to elicit specific behaviors. That's not freedom,
Speaker 2: that's digital entrapmant. So everybody wondering why why is Facebook free?
Speaker 2: Why is Instagram free? Why is Twitter free? Why is
Speaker 2: fucking TikTok free? Why is YouTube free? Nothing is free?
Speaker 2: Like nothing, There's nothing in life that is ever free.
Speaker 1: Same thing with this podcast.
Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, good cult members, If you're
Speaker 3: wondering why this podcast you're listening to it on Spotify
Speaker 3: or Apple podcasts for free.
Speaker 1: It's not free.
Speaker 3: The service to you might be free, but the money
Speaker 3: that is being exchanged.
Speaker 1: That's why ads are a thing.
Speaker 3: That's how Spotify makes their money, That's why they have
Speaker 3: It's where you could just listen to music for free
Speaker 3: because there's commercials that pay for the free option. Now,
Speaker 3: if you want to get the no ad experience, then yeah,
Speaker 3: you can pay for the premium or do all these things.
Speaker 3: But nothing, nothing in this world is free except for dying.
Speaker 1: Dying is free. I'll give you that.
Speaker 2: You know, what actually is free is going out into
Speaker 2: the woods and getting a big old breath of fresh air,
Speaker 2: maybe dipping your dipping your dogs in the water, you know,
Speaker 2: renting them off a little bit. They be barking when
Speaker 2: you walk too long? You know?
Speaker 3: Is that free? Is that free? Because you're on land?
Speaker 3: Somebody had to buy that land? Is it government land?
Speaker 3: They bought it? Is it public land? That means it's
Speaker 3: government And that's say is it private land? You're walking
Speaker 3: on a trail? How'd you get there in the first place?
Speaker 3: Did you take a car? You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Point you could break this down to the micro or
Speaker 3: to the macro, however you want to call it.
Speaker 1: Nothing in this world is free.
Speaker 2: Good points, sir. So all right. Next, we're gonna get
Speaker 2: into how it affects the maybe a little spiritual here,
Speaker 2: but just play along with me, how it affects the
Speaker 2: individual's spirit. So we're gonna talk a little spiritually. If
Speaker 2: you are the sum of your thoughts, choices, and desires,
Speaker 2: what happens when all three are being engineered. We're not
Speaker 2: just dealing with addiction cycles and attention spans here talking
Speaker 2: about a fracturing of the self. Neuromarketing doesn't just sell
Speaker 2: you stuff. It conditions you to chase dopamine, conform to
Speaker 2: identity bubbles, and numb out when reality doesn't match your
Speaker 2: curated feed. This creates a fractured psyche, one that is
Speaker 2: easily manipulated, distracted, or compliant. Could this be the true
Speaker 2: beginning of the transhumanist god system, where man is no
Speaker 2: longer a spiritual being but a programmable unit in a
Speaker 2: digital hive? Okay, I mean you feel me on that though, right?
Speaker 2: Like that's I do. You could see how it could
Speaker 2: go there or how it's already kind of there in
Speaker 2: a sense.
Speaker 3: Oh, I see TikTok as nothing more than one giant
Speaker 3: hive mind.
Speaker 1: That's that's basically for Instagram exactly.
Speaker 3: I know I'm picking on TikTok because it's a CCP
Speaker 3: hive mind, but that could be said for any social
Speaker 3: media platform. There's a reason even Netflix, even your your
Speaker 3: streaming services, there's a reason why. Yeah, you might go
Speaker 3: to the listen see top ten on Netflix right now,
Speaker 3: like this week.
Speaker 1: Okay, fine, But.
Speaker 3: There's a reason why certain things are on your specific
Speaker 3: account in a certain order because they know which one
Speaker 3: you're more likely to click on. How do they know
Speaker 3: that you might ask from their resources, including what we
Speaker 3: are talking about right.
Speaker 2: Now one hundred percent. So if you're worried about it,
Speaker 2: what can you do about it? So there is a
Speaker 2: little bit of hope. Awareness is the first firewall. That's
Speaker 2: what we always say, open up your third eye. That's
Speaker 2: what it's all about, is just becoming aware so that
Speaker 2: you're not being programmed, you're not being manipulated, you're not
Speaker 2: being told where to go, what to think, or anything.
Speaker 2: You become aware of the situation that you're in and
Speaker 2: understand that you have a fucking choice in the matter.
Speaker 2: So yeah, awareness would be the first firewall. Ask is
Speaker 2: this mind before making a decision. You should use VPNs
Speaker 2: privacy first browsers like Brave or apps like Lockdown to
Speaker 2: block trackers. You should turn off your mind, microphones, your cameras,
Speaker 2: and your geolocation whenever it's not in use. Relearn how
Speaker 2: to sit with discomfort, relearn how to be bored again.
Speaker 2: Train yourself to wait fast from technology. Rebuild your nervous
Speaker 2: system so it's not a slave to dopamine. Teach your
Speaker 2: kids to do the same in a world where they
Speaker 2: are mining your soul. The most radical act is to
Speaker 2: become whole again. So just got to throw that out there.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know that people are going to hear that,
Speaker 2: probably sleep on it and be like okay. So the
Speaker 2: only way I don't get trapped in the SISM is
Speaker 2: to take myself away from the system. But what about
Speaker 2: my kids? What about my husband? What about my job?
Speaker 2: I need to have this phone for my job. And
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, I can't tell you how many
Speaker 2: people tell me the only reason I have Facebook anymore
Speaker 2: is just to connect with my aunt or my uncles,
Speaker 2: and I want to be able to send them fucking
Speaker 2: text it to them, call them, meet them in person,
Speaker 2: go out to eat with them. Not everything has to
Speaker 2: all be online. Bro.
Speaker 1: You know, dude, the.
Speaker 3: Only social media I have anymore is my Facebook, and
Speaker 3: I honestly cannot tell you the last time I got
Speaker 3: on there. Like so many people, if you look at
Speaker 3: your phone, you can look and see what you spend
Speaker 3: the most amount of time doing on your phone.
Speaker 1: At the end of every month.
Speaker 3: I spend zero time on social media platforms. And I
Speaker 3: have to tell y'all, I am much happier overall than
Speaker 3: I ever was when I used to be on the
Speaker 3: socials for hours a day, and if I ever do
Speaker 3: get on a social media platform, it feels like work
Speaker 3: to me, Like, because we do this for a living,
Speaker 3: social media is I don't see it as a place
Speaker 3: to connect. I see it as a place to promote,
Speaker 3: and I don't whenever I'm trying to unplug for a minute,
Speaker 3: I don't want to feel like I should be promoting
Speaker 3: or working, you know what I'm saying. That's not where
Speaker 3: I go to decompress. A lot of people it is,
Speaker 3: And I keep my Facebook up because there's dudes that
Speaker 3: I served with, and like you said, I it's for
Speaker 3: the connections for people that I may have lost their numbers,
Speaker 3: they have a new number something like that. But honestly,
Speaker 3: if I haven't gone on in over a year and
Speaker 3: my number has not changed since I was a freshman
Speaker 3: in high school, So like, if these people want to
Speaker 3: reach out to me, they know where to find me.
Speaker 1: That's just the way it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point, And you know, I think
Speaker 2: that people just use that as an excuse because they
Speaker 2: maybe they heard it, and you know, it's like people
Speaker 2: still want to stay connected, whether it's connected with their
Speaker 2: friends or their family, or connected with certain news things
Speaker 2: that are coming out, or certain articles that you find interesting,
Speaker 2: or certain pictures that you like, or certain videos or whatever. Right, Like,
Speaker 2: every single one of these apps has pictures and videos now.
Speaker 2: Didn't used to be that way. And to your point
Speaker 2: that you made earlier, people need to relearn how to
Speaker 2: be bored. That is an art.
Speaker 1: It didn't used to be.
Speaker 3: They used to be the bane of people's existence. Like, Oh,
Speaker 3: I'm so bored, bro. No one knows how to just
Speaker 3: sit with their own thoughts.
Speaker 1: And be bored anymore. And I thought about that the
Speaker 1: other day. I was having a conversation with somebody.
Speaker 3: The military teaches you how to be professionally bored because
Speaker 3: you'll be on standby for hours.
Speaker 1: Hurry up and wait, hurry up and wait.
Speaker 3: We got to hurry up and get to the to
Speaker 3: this place for four thirty for something that we're not
Speaker 3: gonna do until seven, right, And you can't bring your phones.
Speaker 3: So what do you do? You sit there and you
Speaker 3: bullshit with the people around you. But you have to
Speaker 3: learn how to just exist. And it's something that so
Speaker 3: many people have lost contact with. It's incredible.
Speaker 2: Oh dude, how many times have you been with a
Speaker 2: wife or a girlfriend, or something, and they're like, what
Speaker 2: you're thinking and we're literally like nothing, Like I'm thinking nothing,
Speaker 2: and they're like, well, you're thinking. I think that it
Speaker 2: is majority kind of a men thing. But but it's like,
Speaker 2: what do you mean you're thinking nothing? How do you
Speaker 2: think nothing? It's like like this, you know, it's pretty easy.
Speaker 3: I heard a couple of different people talk about that, right,
Speaker 3: Like men's brains are like a waffle.
Speaker 1: Women's brains are like a plate of spaghetti.
Speaker 3: And what I mean by that is, like the spaghetti,
Speaker 3: everything is connected to everything, by everything a man's brain's got,
Speaker 3: it's like a waffle.
Speaker 1: Bro We got a box. We got boxes for everything.
Speaker 3: We got a box for the bills, we got a
Speaker 3: box for cars, we got a box for whatever hobby
Speaker 3: you're into. And we have a nothing box. There is
Speaker 3: literally nothing inside of this box. And we take that
Speaker 3: nothing box down, we open it. We are in that
Speaker 3: nothing box, and then when the time comes, we put
Speaker 3: that box back on the shelf, being very careful not
Speaker 3: to touch anything else. That is how For the record,
Speaker 3: any women listening, if you ever notice when your man
Speaker 3: is just chilling, like fishing or just sitting on the
Speaker 3: couch and he's just daydreaming into La la land.
Speaker 1: I know that it irks you.
Speaker 3: I know because there is nothing that infuriates a woman
Speaker 3: more than a man doing nothing. We need that, you're
Speaker 3: I hate it. I hate that so much. But beside
Speaker 3: the point, we love that. It is our place. It
Speaker 3: is our It is our neutral place where we can
Speaker 3: just exist, free from worry and care for five collective minutes.
Speaker 2: Oh dude, right, it's literally like lazy meditation, if you
Speaker 2: think about it.
Speaker 1: Women do not possess a nothing box.
Speaker 3: I don't care what's going on at what point of
Speaker 3: the day, whether they're eating breakfast, having sex, on the
Speaker 3: phone with somebody, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: Their brain is in at least five different.
Speaker 3: Places at any given moment, because that's how women's brains operate.
Speaker 2: I'll give one example where the only time I've ever
Speaker 2: seen a woman go to the nothing box is when
Speaker 2: they're happy, like, when they are just extremely satisfied with life,
Speaker 2: and it's hard to find them out there. Right, But
Speaker 2: if everything's going well, the job's going well, the marriage
Speaker 2: is going well, maybe your kids are asleep whatever, right like,
Speaker 2: and everything is just as it should be, It's like
Speaker 2: a natural nothing box. That you can just float around
Speaker 2: in and you can just fucking flap your wings like
Speaker 2: a butterfly and it's just the wind that's lifting you
Speaker 2: up and you're not even really doing any of the work.
Speaker 2: Could flat you know what I'm saying, Like it's always
Speaker 2: it can be that way. But you know whatever, we're
Speaker 2: not going to get into the mind of a woman.
Speaker 2: That's a dangerous place.
Speaker 1: Cool boy, we don't. We don't have the time or
Speaker 1: the mental like power to do that.
Speaker 3: All I'm saying is that with them, with that, with
Speaker 3: the fairer sex, everything is connected to everything else, and
Speaker 3: the the.
Speaker 1: Fluid that all that is floating in is emotion.
Speaker 3: Everything is connected through emotional responses from one thing to another,
Speaker 3: to another to another. Men not the case, not the case.
Speaker 3: But this is why we need each other. We balance
Speaker 3: each other out in this way.
Speaker 2: We are the yen. Yes, we are the Yen and
Speaker 2: they're the yang and they're you know, it's kind of
Speaker 2: like we need each other. Well, we need each other
Speaker 2: to survive, to keep on going for humanity and whatnot. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's why I'm like, dude, how do lesbians do it?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like two two at the
Speaker 2: same time, Oh my god, how much how neurotic must
Speaker 2: that be?
Speaker 3: Oh you want to talk about it? You know what
Speaker 3: you're supposed to bring to a second lesbian date?
Speaker 2: What's that?
Speaker 1: Are you all?
Speaker 3: Oh, so let's talk about some neuroticness with that, which
Speaker 3: any less out there listening, you know, you just chuckled
Speaker 3: at that because.
Speaker 1: You know it's accurate.
Speaker 2: They'd be moving into with each other off of literally nothing.
Speaker 1: And then it's yeah, it's a whole thing.
Speaker 2: Anyway, shout out to the lesbians out there listening to
Speaker 2: the show. We do love you. We just try and
Speaker 2: get into the mind of what it's like.
Speaker 1: And we can't. We don't have the death to do it.
Speaker 2: And that's why that's why I think that there's always
Speaker 2: like a male and the other ones the female.
Speaker 1: If you will.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, somebody has to wear the khakis, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like somebody has to wear the fucking polo.
Speaker 2: It's like, all right, look, I know we're both a
Speaker 2: little crazy in here, but can we at least pretend
Speaker 2: that like one of us is the opposite sex and
Speaker 2: maybe it'll make it a little bit or a little
Speaker 2: bit less neurotic.
Speaker 1: Oh, bro, I had.
Speaker 3: I forget what comedian I was listening to, but they
Speaker 3: killed me with this one. It's like, I don't believe
Speaker 3: lesbians are real. I'm be straight up with you. A
Speaker 3: woman being that attracted to a woman is bullshit. If
Speaker 3: that was the case, how come a woman who claims
Speaker 3: to be a lesbian isn't buying a pocket pussy?
Speaker 2: Why do they buy big old dick toys if they
Speaker 2: hate dicks that much? And I'm just like, oh, we
Speaker 2: getting into dangerous territory here, But like, okay, you could
Speaker 2: sis her with a pocket pussy if you're that attracted
Speaker 2: to women. It's like ooh, okay, all right, It's like
Speaker 2: and it's making a point. It's even better whenever you
Speaker 2: got the big bulls that they get a little crazy
Speaker 2: with it. You know what I'm saying. They're like, my
Speaker 2: dick's always hard. I don't need to take a pill.
Speaker 2: It's like, your dick's fake. Okay, let's just be real.
Speaker 2: Here's this girl.
Speaker 3: Was a lesbian. She had this really hot chick come over.
Speaker 3: She's like hashtag not pulling out tonight? First comment, bro,
Speaker 3: what you gonna do? Unhooked from the strap? Want and
Speaker 3: leave it in her for you, Wilt.
Speaker 2: That's pulling out. That's you're pulling out right there. Good job,
Speaker 2: all right? Hey yeah, anyway, I feel like they're shreading
Speaker 2: dangerous waters with this conversation here.
Speaker 3: We haven't said anything homophobic. We're just I mean, this
Speaker 3: is what we would consider low hanging fruit.
Speaker 2: But anyway, Oh, I'm sure there's a lot of shit
Speaker 2: that like gays talk about straight people. They're like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, how boring. You know, it's the same old shit. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm sure there's something. But anyway, So yeah,
Speaker 2: as getting back to the neuromarketing, I don't know how
Speaker 2: we veered off in that direction.
Speaker 1: But.
Speaker 2: You so, it's essentially it's the cult that you didn't join,
Speaker 2: unlike this one, because you did join, and we love
Speaker 2: you for it, and you're a cult member for life,
Speaker 2: whether you only listen to one episode or you listen
Speaker 2: to coming up on nine hundred fucking episodes. Yeah. So
Speaker 2: you didn't ask for this, you didn't sign a contract,
Speaker 2: but the contract was made for you. You were born
Speaker 2: into it, raised into it, tracked from your first click.
Speaker 2: The beast isn't coming, it's here, It's in your bloodstream.
Speaker 2: It's in your attention. You are the product and you
Speaker 2: are the prey. So now we're going to get to
Speaker 2: some of the science that's in the papers. We have
Speaker 2: pub med articles that we're going to get to. But
Speaker 2: I'm gonna lay this out like a precursor to those
Speaker 2: articles so that we know what to look for kind
Speaker 2: of thing, because they get a little science y and
Speaker 2: they're using terms that nobody's ever heard of, and you know,
Speaker 2: so how neuromarketing actually works. So research shows that neuromarketing
Speaker 2: isn't just hype. It's a rigorously studied field. One systematic
Speaker 2: review examined fifty peer reviewed articles outlining six key themes evolution, tools, application,
Speaker 2: social value, consumer behavior, and sustainable business implications. Another review
Speaker 2: specifically focused on EEG based neuromarketing, mapping out which brain
Speaker 2: areas activate during purchase decisions and how those signals are processed, decoded,
Speaker 2: and leveraged for profit. This is in pseudoscience. It's deep
Speaker 2: academic inquiry into how your brain literally responds to marketing.
Speaker 2: So it's evil, right, like, we didn't ask for this,
Speaker 2: we didn't sign for this, or maybe we did. Who
Speaker 2: fucking who reads all that?
Speaker 1: Who reads the terms and conditions.
Speaker 3: When Apple comes out with a new update, just gonna
Speaker 3: throw that out. How much of fine print within the
Speaker 3: fine print is there actually whenever you accept? Do we
Speaker 3: know what they've given us? We have given them permission
Speaker 3: to do on our phones? I know, I haven't.
Speaker 2: Oh dude, there's a whole Black Mirror episode on that
Speaker 2: on the terms and conditions, and it was like I
Speaker 2: think it was. It was like on on Netflix, like you,
Speaker 2: but it wasn't called Netflix. It was like their own
Speaker 2: version of it, like called fucking Tangerine or whatever the
Speaker 2: fuck it was, but it was essentially Netflix. And you
Speaker 2: know what people weren't reading in the in the terms
Speaker 2: and conditions is that by by signing up for this platform,
Speaker 2: you are are now also signing up to have cameras
Speaker 2: always surrounding you, following your every thought, your every move.
Speaker 2: If you go and take a dump, you're laying on
Speaker 2: your back or whatever, right, it's following everything. And it's
Speaker 2: like it got into the weird craziness when and and
Speaker 2: you know, the people that were unfortunate being filmed and
Speaker 2: have it had posted on this Netflix type thing. They
Speaker 2: couldn't even sue because it was like, well, you signed.
Speaker 2: It says right here that you're going to be tracked
Speaker 2: and you you could be used as a product and
Speaker 2: we don't even have to pay you, you know, like
Speaker 2: it was crazy.
Speaker 1: South Park did an episode on that.
Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, when they made fun of
Speaker 3: the human Centipede, they basically it was in the terms
Speaker 3: and conditions and if you'd accepted it and didn't read it,
Speaker 3: you didn't know what you're signing up for, so like
Speaker 3: out of it. And it was a big joke. And
Speaker 3: they did that on purpose. I saw like a behind
Speaker 3: the scenes thing on it. They thought like, what is
Speaker 3: the most ridiculous thing that we could put into a
Speaker 3: quote unquote terms and conditions and make Kyle look like
Speaker 3: he's or Stana think look ridiculous for not reading them.
Speaker 1: And everybody's like, bro, you have to read the terms
Speaker 1: conditions like you have to. You never know what you're signing.
Speaker 1: He's like, well, who reads them?
Speaker 3: And it was a whole thing. No one does. But
Speaker 3: then they went back and looked and Butters is like, oh,
Speaker 3: it says right here you could be put into us
Speaker 3: human centipede. Hmmm, I'm going to decline, And it was yeah,
Speaker 3: So on hundred percent is the thing.
Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, dude, So all right, So who's funding all
Speaker 2: of this and what are they after? Well, if it's
Speaker 2: not obvious already, big money is behind neuromarketing. Government agencies,
Speaker 2: including DARPA, by the way, that everybody just loves to
Speaker 2: talk about, including DARPA initially funded BCI research for military
Speaker 2: and interrogation applications. On the corporate side, firms like Nielsen
Speaker 2: acquired neuroscience companies Neurofocus in twenty eleven and Interscope Research
Speaker 2: in twenty fifteen to build marketing services grounded in biology.
Speaker 2: The market size today is just over two billion dollars globally,
Speaker 2: projected to nearly triple by twenty thirty seven. And they're
Speaker 2: the elite political strategists these So these tools are offering
Speaker 2: predictive voter profiling, machine learning on FNRS and EEG signals
Speaker 2: that can forecast emotional reaction to politicians with check this
Speaker 2: out with eight percent accuracy. Wow, that's pretty fucking high. No,
Speaker 2: that is so all right. Well, now we're gonna get
Speaker 2: into into the political influence and elite control. So yes,
Speaker 2: governments are in on this one study using fni RS
Speaker 2: and machine learning accurately decoded voter preferences based on brain
Speaker 2: responses to candidates. Political neuromarketing blends psychology, neuroscience, and marketing
Speaker 2: to engineer political opinion. To engineer political opinion, Okay, your
Speaker 2: thoughts aren't your own whenever it comes to politics. I
Speaker 2: don't care how many hours you watched of Tucker. I
Speaker 2: don't care how many hours you watched of fucking name
Speaker 2: your your anchor. Right, Like, the people are just spewing
Speaker 2: whatever they hear, and they're almost making it seem like
Speaker 2: it's their own. That's why I can't talk to fucking
Speaker 2: people who are super into politics, because I'm like, all right,
Speaker 2: who did you listen to today to get this, you know,
Speaker 2: opinion from? You know, like it's a sickness. You just
Speaker 2: sit in front of Fox News or CNN and you're like, well,
Speaker 2: we got to keep up with it, We got to
Speaker 2: watch it. My dad used to always tell me that shit.
Speaker 2: And then one day I actually did turn on I
Speaker 2: think it was CNN at the time. It was before
Speaker 2: everybody knew that it was fake news or whatever, but
Speaker 2: I actually did turn it on. He was like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, I'm so proud of you. You're actually concerned
Speaker 2: about the world and geopolitics. And I was like, I
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, you know, I felt pretty good. My
Speaker 2: dad's congratulate me. He's like, allly, shit, you actually into it.
Speaker 2: Turns out you shouldn't be doing it anyway, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: And it's more obvious now, obviously, Like it's more obvious
Speaker 2: now than it used to be. But it's like, give me,
Speaker 2: got all this information, you know, what are you gonna
Speaker 2: do with it?
Speaker 3: More than just the media do the politicians themselves. It
Speaker 3: doesn't matter, like you said, which anchor you listen to,
Speaker 3: which side of the aisle you claim you're on.
Speaker 2: They never do what they say they're gonna do. Hell,
Speaker 2: Trump currently right now is going back on a lot
Speaker 2: of the promises that got him into the office, and
Speaker 2: people are just kind of like, well, you know, it's like, no, no,
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't know. You tell me what's happening
Speaker 2: right now now.
Speaker 3: Granted, yes, I prefer him to be in the position
Speaker 3: in Kamala, that's still not even an open conversation for debate, Like, definitely,
Speaker 3: but I.
Speaker 2: Don't know how you come back from not from from
Speaker 2: the Epstein thing. I just don't And I don't think
Speaker 2: that he's really even too concerned about it because he
Speaker 2: doesn't have to. He's not gonna get voted in again.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you know, he wanted to cut the
Speaker 3: government spending, then he just increased it buy three trillion.
Speaker 3: He didn't want us to go to more wars, which
Speaker 3: is accurate. But no, he's gonna fund the wars. Epstein,
Speaker 3: we're gonna bring him to justice. That's all gone now.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: We're not gonna kick out the illegals that are working
Speaker 3: and doing good things. Will kick out the criminals. First
Speaker 3: he said, fuck that. We're kicking out everybody, even people
Speaker 3: with green cards. He's kicking out right now.
Speaker 2: We're gonna we're gonna build a wall in Mexico's gonna
Speaker 2: pay for it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's long for clue. Yeah, it's you see
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter, It doesn't matter whoever's in all for
Speaker 3: however long they're gonna be in office, they're going to
Speaker 3: say whatever they need to say to get into power,
Speaker 3: and then they're going to go back on the word. Now,
Speaker 3: Trump didn't do that his first go round. He actually
Speaker 3: did what he said he was going to do, and
Speaker 3: does everybody remember how much of a breath of fresh
Speaker 3: air that was.
Speaker 1: Do y'all remember how much? And yes, there was.
Speaker 3: Clearly he's Russian collusion coffe and he's obviously a Nazi.
Speaker 1: He's literally Hitler.
Speaker 3: They did everything they could to stop him and to
Speaker 3: dissuade the public from enjoying a politician doing what they
Speaker 3: said they were going to do. And then cut to
Speaker 3: now he's only been in office for six months.
Speaker 1: It started off strong, started to take a turn.
Speaker 3: I'm hoping that maybe we could turn this bitch around
Speaker 3: and he'll get back to what he said he was
Speaker 3: gonna do.
Speaker 1: But gotta be honest, if the.
Speaker 3: First six months or any indication of what else we
Speaker 3: could look forward to for the next three and a
Speaker 3: half years, I'm a little trepidacious at this.
Speaker 2: Moment, Yeah, dude, And even things like I started looking
Speaker 2: deeper into the no tax on overtime, and that's not
Speaker 2: as cut and dry as as you would believe.
Speaker 1: It's only for the first twenty thousand.
Speaker 2: That's not on the tax that you get on your paycheck.
Speaker 2: That's the taxes at the end of the year that
Speaker 2: you're not having to pay on. So you're still getting
Speaker 2: taxed just the same on your overtime. It's just up
Speaker 2: to what was it twelve five or twenty five grand
Speaker 2: or whatever of overtime that now, So it's not even
Speaker 2: that you're saving twelve grand, it's that you're not being
Speaker 2: taxed on that twelve grand. So essentially, I mean, you're
Speaker 2: still saving I think it was somebody said that you're
Speaker 2: still saving like three grand or whatever, but like that's
Speaker 2: not how it was marketed.
Speaker 3: Right, it's a let's basically call that like a write off, right,
Speaker 3: just for the sake of understanding what I mean by that.
Speaker 1: So for the first twelve.
Speaker 3: Five or twenty or however many thousand hours of overtime
Speaker 3: that you work for the year.
Speaker 1: Those will be seen as quote unquote tax free.
Speaker 3: Not all of your paychecks that you get, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: at the end of the year, how you claim it
Speaker 3: and things, and that does help absolutely.
Speaker 1: That's like basically.
Speaker 3: Buying a well, I was gonna say a twelve thousand
Speaker 3: dollars car, but that's not an accurate comparison.
Speaker 1: Here.
Speaker 3: If you own a business and you were to do
Speaker 3: a twenty thousand dollars business expense, you got taxed on
Speaker 3: the expenditure. When you spent the money, but you can
Speaker 3: claim it later on as a runod. It's kind of
Speaker 3: like that. It's not it's not like it does help.
Speaker 3: I'll say that it is a positive step. It's not
Speaker 3: what we were told. We were told, no tax on tips,
Speaker 3: no tax on overtime. We're gonna cut, cut, cut, the
Speaker 3: tariffs are gonna pick up the slack on all these things.
Speaker 1: And they have.
Speaker 3: The tariffs have come in clutch financially speaking. But this
Speaker 3: isn't what we were told. And it's seen as like
Speaker 3: maybe this is the first and many steps that will
Speaker 3: be taken to get us to tax free overtime and
Speaker 3: to no tax on tips completely.
Speaker 1: In all this, it's just I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: actually coming or not.
Speaker 2: And speaking of Trump and the cabinet, we're about to
Speaker 2: pull up a name that is heavily tied to the
Speaker 2: Trump presidency. Firms like spark Neuro, backed by Peter Teal,
Speaker 2: analyzed voter EEG Galvinick galvanic responses and facial coding during
Speaker 2: the twenty sixteen US election and found emotional resonance with Trump.
Speaker 2: The traditional polling mist it's not sci fi, it's happening
Speaker 2: and with tools like Cambridge Analytica and Bellweather Citizen neuromarketing
Speaker 2: is weaponized for elections. So if you're wondering, you know,
Speaker 2: because we were all like, you know, who's he gonna
Speaker 2: pick to be his VP or whatever? Nobody had jd
Speaker 2: Vance on the Bengo card, right, No, But then you
Speaker 2: find out where, you know, like, where did jd Vance
Speaker 2: come from? He was a fucking direct understudy to Peter
Speaker 2: Tilbro and this guy was doing all of this, you know,
Speaker 2: voter eeg essentially hacking your mind to make you like
Speaker 2: something or hate something or just have a reaction to it.
Speaker 2: We're gonna collect that data. And so now you see
Speaker 2: that it's almost starting to like people have warned about transhumanists,
Speaker 2: and you know, people think that, oh, it's gonna come
Speaker 2: in the form of you know, neurallink it, and I
Speaker 2: think it could come in that form. I'm not saying
Speaker 2: that that's not you know, on the on the menu,
Speaker 2: on the forecast, but I think it's more so gonna
Speaker 2: be shit like this where they learned how to hack
Speaker 2: the human mind and essentially turn them into drones, muppets,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like you're you're being controlled
Speaker 2: in ways that you don't even know you're being controlled.
Speaker 2: And this is that consent that we were talking about
Speaker 2: that we never really adhered to. Maybe we did, Maybe
Speaker 2: we fucking did, though.
Speaker 3: You know, we gave consent not in words, not in signatures,
Speaker 3: not in clicking the I accept icon. We gave it
Speaker 3: from our pupils, dilating when a certain thing would come
Speaker 3: on our screen. They then knew what they needed to
Speaker 3: get a certain response from us. And if you don't
Speaker 3: think that your camera on your phone is watching that
Speaker 3: every time you're watching a YouTube video, every time you
Speaker 3: scroll through TikTok, every time name, it doesn't matter if
Speaker 3: you think that your camera that's facing you is not
Speaker 3: running scans on you for this purpose.
Speaker 1: I hate to tell you it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah it is, Yeah it is, dude. So yeah, we're
Speaker 2: gonna get back to it here. I just had to
Speaker 2: look up what that fn IRS meant. I don't know
Speaker 2: if we read that earlier. Oh I think we did,
Speaker 2: so fucking IRS man, I'm fucking IRS. No, it actually
Speaker 2: stands for functional near infrared spectroscopy, so it says that
Speaker 2: it's a non invasive imaging technique that uses near infrared
Speaker 2: light to monitor brain activity by measuring changes in blood
Speaker 2: oxygenation levels. They're doing that through your phone.
Speaker 3: So just so we're clear on this, you know how,
Speaker 3: and we've talked about this, your phone is taking infrared
Speaker 3: pictures of you every three seconds. Right now, my phone
Speaker 3: is being using my camera. It is snapping pictures of
Speaker 3: the front side and the backside every three seconds. Then
Speaker 3: if you don't believe that, for anybody who has a
Speaker 3: ring camera, go tomorrow night tonight, depending on what time
Speaker 3: you're listening to this episode, right and go outside and
Speaker 3: make emotion to where your ring camera will show and
Speaker 3: make sure it's a dark outside to where it's the
Speaker 3: infrared and just kind of look at your phone. Lock
Speaker 3: the screen, let it be pitch black, and just kind
Speaker 3: of look at the front side, look at the backside
Speaker 3: for a second.
Speaker 1: Make it a little five second clip.
Speaker 3: Then go inside and rewatch the ring camera footage, and
Speaker 3: I promise you you're gonna see your phone flashing in
Speaker 3: your face every three seconds.
Speaker 2: That's what this is, oh dude. And you can actually
Speaker 2: do it other ways too. So for example, if if
Speaker 2: it's like two of you in the house and you
Speaker 2: turn off all the lights, have one person staring at
Speaker 2: their phone and the other person videoing it and you'll
Speaker 2: get the same thing. So anybody can do this as
Speaker 2: long as there's two people, you can fucking you can
Speaker 2: do this on your own. And Jacob found out first,
Speaker 2: you know, with with the what was it the the
Speaker 2: ring doorbell footage?
Speaker 3: Yep, one hundred percent. Did I forget what which night
Speaker 3: it was. I was coming home and I had my
Speaker 3: phone in my hand, and I went back and watched
Speaker 3: it and I saw this for myself. And this was
Speaker 3: a few days after I had heard that that was happening.
Speaker 3: And don't get me wrong, I mean I'm I'm a
Speaker 3: conspiracy theorist. I figured that this was going down. I
Speaker 3: didn't think that it was going to be as easily
Speaker 3: caught as this. But I mean literally, any night vision, infrared, whatever,
Speaker 3: any any security cam that's in black and white at night,
Speaker 3: you'll be able to see it flash.
Speaker 1: And it's not subtle at all.
Speaker 2: And to be fair, I think that even that is
Speaker 2: playing into the hypnotic effect as to why you're you're
Speaker 2: on your phone so much. It's like a comfort thing
Speaker 2: because it's almost hypnotizing you, uh in a way, right,
Speaker 2: It's almost like the the somebody taking the pocket watch
Speaker 2: and you're getting very sleepy. It's just that regular motion
Speaker 2: to your eye are used to. And it's the same
Speaker 2: thing with the blinking lights. And that's actually why they
Speaker 2: say you shouldn't get LED lights because LED lights are
Speaker 2: constantly flickering. I don't know how many flickers, like per
Speaker 2: second or whatever, but it's like it's it's not a
Speaker 2: consistent brightness like you would have with the traditional light bulb.
Speaker 2: It is flickering. And that's why it saves on energy
Speaker 2: because it's only using it's only being used half the
Speaker 2: time when it's on.
Speaker 1: Huh.
Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 1: I have not heard this about LEDs.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And if you video it you'll see it too. But
Speaker 2: you have to put your phone like whenever you you
Speaker 2: can do like slow motion on your phone, and if
Speaker 2: you put it up to a light in your house
Speaker 2: or you know what where whatever kind of light you have,
Speaker 2: if it's an LED, you'll see how it's flickering on
Speaker 2: and flickering off like fucking milliseconds apart. But it's saving energy.
Speaker 2: And that's why LED lights are fucking are are more
Speaker 2: cost effective. That's w that's phenomenal, like crazy, the levels
Speaker 2: that they'll go to to hypnotize the masses. I don't
Speaker 2: know if that's the sole reason, but that's definitely a
Speaker 2: reason for sure. So now we're going to get to
Speaker 2: the tech beyond smartphones? How are they doing it? Just
Speaker 2: beyond your cell phone? Everybody has a cell phone nowadays,
Speaker 2: but what else? So neuromarketing doesn't just happen on your phone.
Speaker 2: Researchers use ee G headsets and caps, even fully mobile
Speaker 2: ones like smartphone Brain scanners. Interesting the fMRI labs that
Speaker 2: track deep brain structures tied to emotional memory. They use
Speaker 2: eye tracking glasses from firms like Sensotor Motoric motoric instruments
Speaker 2: used in VR and driver monitoring tests. They have, obviously
Speaker 2: the biometric wearables, so you have like HUD shirts the
Speaker 2: track the heart rate, respiration and muscle tone, and Honda
Speaker 2: showrooms they rebuilt the sales process based on emotional arousal.
Speaker 3: Wow in Honanda, leave it to the fucking Japanese dude,
Speaker 3: God damn dude.
Speaker 2: See what I'm saying, Everything's going to become smart mm hmm,
Speaker 2: Well you know what they say, smartphones make dumb people.
Speaker 2: I couldn't agree more so, then, of course you have
Speaker 2: the FNRS, which we just explained so and that is
Speaker 2: a portable neuroimaging tool now used by politicians to decode
Speaker 2: voter responses outside of labs. And so the future would
Speaker 2: potentially be, if this is going to keep on evolving,
Speaker 2: would be brain computer interfaces, implants, and non invasive headgear
Speaker 2: now tested in DARPA funded trials for cognitive monitoring and
Speaker 2: mind control ethics debates. Whoa sick fucks dude, They're sick now.
Speaker 3: I wonder if this is It can't be not at
Speaker 3: this point anyway, Whenever they say that recent polls are
Speaker 3: showing that the public feels x way about this candidate,
Speaker 3: this politician, this administration, whatever the case is, I don't
Speaker 3: believe that they're using this data as of this moment.
Speaker 3: I think they probably went to a college campus and
Speaker 3: polled like ten people and they just made sure that
Speaker 3: they were of a certain demographic or whatever the case.
Speaker 2: The posters are probably a little bit different. I think
Speaker 2: this is more higher level shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: The posters are being used in their own way as propaganda,
Speaker 3: but this is more of the real factual science that
Speaker 3: the people at the top are using and hoarding to
Speaker 3: use for their benefit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude. I mean, like I've said it before, I'll
Speaker 2: say it again. I think that there's always going to
Speaker 2: be some kind of imagery that is going to draw
Speaker 2: on your emotional desires, your emotional needs, whatever you're emotionally
Speaker 2: traditionally attracted to or comfortable with. And I make this
Speaker 2: example of whenever, and I'm not saying that this thing
Speaker 2: was trying to do that, But what's actually going on
Speaker 2: in the mind if you're not paying attention and you're
Speaker 2: not aware, is that you know, I talk about this
Speaker 2: fucking billboard that I drive by, and it's half a billboard.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a whole billboard, but half the picture
Speaker 2: is vote for Trump in Vance twenty twenty four, and
Speaker 2: literally right below it Jesus Saves and it has the
Speaker 2: imagery of Jesus holding his arms out. It's like, you
Speaker 2: look at both of those things connected to each other.
Speaker 2: It essentially represents the whole, entire Republican Party in essence.
Speaker 2: You know, most people who are religious, not all of them,
Speaker 2: but usually the religious folk are attached to the Republican side, right,
Speaker 2: the evangelicals for sure, right right, And so you see that,
Speaker 2: like even on small scales. I don't know if they're
Speaker 2: doing it on purpose, probably not, but they're you know,
Speaker 2: whenever you have people like this, you're idolizing, like that
Speaker 2: is full on idle warship. And so whenever you see
Speaker 2: like people sticking up for Trump, whenever there was Operation
Speaker 2: Warp Speed or sticking up for him, you know, for
Speaker 2: Q and on, they're sticking up for him for fucking
Speaker 2: this Epstein shit. It's like you don't want to lower
Speaker 2: your your idol off of the pedestal that you put
Speaker 2: him on, and so now you're gonna do all these
Speaker 2: different mental gymnastics in order to convince yourself that he
Speaker 2: must be doing the right thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the other side of TDS to Trump derangement syndrome.
Speaker 1: It goes both ways.
Speaker 3: We just talked about that, the same Trump derangement syndrome
Speaker 3: that anything he does is evil and clearly satanic and
Speaker 3: clearly trying to ruin this country. And all this same time,
Speaker 3: there's another group that will do the mental gymnastics to
Speaker 3: justify anything he says or does, because he could do
Speaker 3: no wrong and he's the savior of all of us,
Speaker 3: and one hundred.
Speaker 2: Percent yeah, dude, it's it's crazy. But whenever, look, whenever
Speaker 2: you're not aware and you just go with the flow
Speaker 2: and you're not gonna question it.
Speaker 3: You know, critical thinking somehow became more and more nuanced.
Speaker 3: It's no longer like the masses is not doing quick
Speaker 3: thinking anymore. It's the minority that is actually stopping and
Speaker 3: thinking about whatever they're hearing, regardless of who said it,
Speaker 3: your favorite guy, your least favorite guy, doesn't matter what
Speaker 3: was actually said, what was actually done.
Speaker 1: Was it just words or was their actions to back
Speaker 1: it up? Whatever? They put that.
Speaker 3: To a political lens, put it to a relationship lens.
Speaker 1: Whatever.
Speaker 3: Critical thinking is just gone by the wayside in a
Speaker 3: very big way, and it's terrifying.
Speaker 2: And the emotional responses by the masses is never good.
Speaker 3: Never, that's the mentality is never a positive thing. I've
Speaker 3: never seen it play out positively.
Speaker 2: No, no, really, it's it's it's kind of great, say
Speaker 2: the men in black quote. This is the perfect time
Speaker 2: to say it, Tommy Lee's true.
Speaker 1: It's very true.
Speaker 3: The person is smart, right, people are dumb and panicky.
Speaker 1: They will do whatever.
Speaker 3: And if you don't believe that, go to a mall
Speaker 3: and screen fire and watch a stampede where I guarantee
Speaker 3: somebody is going to get hurt in the stampede. Indutead
Speaker 3: of people looking around being like, oh, I don't smell smoke.
Speaker 1: I don't see a fire. Like let's let's think about
Speaker 1: what what did we just hear?
Speaker 3: No, the mob mentality will kick in, survival instincts will
Speaker 3: kick in, and it's a fucking every man for him
Speaker 3: self type of situation.
Speaker 1: It's it's insane to watch.
Speaker 2: Dude go to fucking the beaches of Corpus Christie and
Speaker 2: scream ice. You know what I'm saying, Like people who
Speaker 2: are people who are legal are gonna run, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? Like it's just entrained, that's it.
Speaker 1: It'd be like that, dude.
Speaker 2: So all right, we're gonna get over to you know,
Speaker 2: potentially what could be going on here? We talked about,
Speaker 2: you know, could this be the beast system that people
Speaker 2: have warned about, what even Revelation warns about of. Essentially
Speaker 2: a system that's controlling the buying and selling neuromarketing would
Speaker 2: qualify for that it integrates invisible surveillance, emotion targeted messaging,
Speaker 2: and predictive algorithms. Here free will is commodified and spiritually eroded.
Speaker 2: So is this humanist control? So the BCIs aimed at
Speaker 2: enhancing cognition today tomorrow, Uh, well they're they're aimed at
Speaker 2: enhancing condition today or cognition today, but tomorrow they may
Speaker 2: tailor your thoughts when your brain becomes algorithmically modifiable. Who
Speaker 2: governs governs your identity? It's a pretty good question, you know,
Speaker 2: where does it go? What does it evolve to? You know,
Speaker 2: are we are we just going to stay in the
Speaker 2: matrix of thinking that we have free will and it's
Speaker 2: gone completely and it's completely hacked by the system or
Speaker 2: corporations or by the movies, like like they're acting how
Speaker 2: they want you're acting how they want you to act
Speaker 2: at that point, So you're not free. You might think
Speaker 2: you free, you're not.
Speaker 1: You're comfortable.
Speaker 3: I've said that a million times too. People want the
Speaker 3: freedom to be comfortable.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's just And I mean, who doesn't want
Speaker 2: to be comfortable? You know, I get it, I get it.
Speaker 3: But that's the thing that comfort come with the level
Speaker 3: of I don't even want to say laziness. I will
Speaker 3: say compliance, right, And I'm not saying that you should
Speaker 3: constantly be in a state of discomfort.
Speaker 1: You should constantly be in some level of the suck.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that either, But what I'm saying is
Speaker 3: that to carve out something for yourself, to pave your
Speaker 3: own path is very, very rarely a comfortable experience.
Speaker 2: Oh, convenience made us lazy, you know, like when every
Speaker 2: single thing we do is the more convenient route, you know.
Speaker 2: And and look, I don't want to go back to
Speaker 2: washing my clothes on a fucking washboard and hanging them
Speaker 2: out to dry either, you know. And that's but that's
Speaker 2: just a small act. That's just a small idea, a
Speaker 2: small example, right, But what does that look like on
Speaker 2: mass scale? And I think that this is kind of
Speaker 2: an example of that, agreed, So all right, the overlay
Speaker 2: to other tech control systems, So neuromarketing isn't isolated. It
Speaker 2: intersects with total surveillance, IoT superchargers or supercharges, emotional data
Speaker 2: gathering in homes, cars, and public spaces.
Speaker 1: What is this?
Speaker 2: I is it? IoT? Let me check this out? IoT
Speaker 2: something operating something? Oh internet of things? Okay, internet of things,
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's it's a real thing. So internet of
Speaker 2: things describes devices with sensors, processing ability, software, and other
Speaker 2: technologies to connect and exchange data with other devices and
Speaker 2: systems over the Internet or other communication networks. The Internet
Speaker 2: of things encompasses electronics, communication, and computer science engineering. So
Speaker 2: the Internet of Things has been considered a misnomer because
Speaker 2: devices do not need to be connected to the public Internet.
Speaker 2: They only need to be connected to a network and
Speaker 2: be individually addressable. So that's kind of it's a misnomers,
Speaker 2: but it a oh yeah, yeah, it absolutely is a thing.
Speaker 2: And that's what it's saying is that the Internet of
Speaker 2: things supercharge the emotional data gathering in homes, cars, in
Speaker 2: public spaces. Essentially, you know, you're taking data from I
Speaker 2: don't know, from your Alexa and it's being uploaded to
Speaker 2: the Internet of things. It's it's it's essentially the highway
Speaker 2: that connects one app to the main system, other apps
Speaker 2: to the to the main system, in order to allow
Speaker 2: the gathering of all data into one place. Wow. So
Speaker 2: that's how you're able to like you ever get on
Speaker 2: you know, an app and you're like, do you want
Speaker 2: to connect your Apple to it? Or you want to
Speaker 2: connect your fucking Facebook to this or whatever?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Like that would be because the reason why that's possible
Speaker 2: is because of the Internet of Things, which is where
Speaker 2: we go. The social media platforms funnel your emotional metadata
Speaker 2: straight into ad and political micro targeting engines. BCIs may
Speaker 2: soon decode thoughts before you speak to them. We're looking
Speaker 2: at an emerging neural panic cup. Oh that's a word,
Speaker 2: pano panopticon. There we go, panopticon. Maybe somebody will get
Speaker 2: that reference. So, uh, we're gonna I'm just gonna read
Speaker 2: the rest of this. Then we're gonna get to the
Speaker 2: actual pub meddata and all that kind of stuff. Just
Speaker 2: trying to really dumb it down essentially as to what
Speaker 2: they're what they're talking about. So, so, if neural responses
Speaker 2: can predict and provoke decisions, are you choosing or being chosen?
Speaker 2: If the same systems can heal, teach, or entertain who
Speaker 2: sets the moral parameters? And can trust in democracy survive
Speaker 2: when politicians have emotional X ray vision. So these are
Speaker 2: some questions that you can, you know, ask yourself. So
Speaker 2: is free tech the bait? If free tech is the bait,
Speaker 2: then you're the product. This is what I was talking about.
Speaker 2: Like whenever we talk about like mass rituals, like Super
Speaker 2: Bowl rituals or you know, name your fancy met gala
Speaker 2: or whatever you know you tune into. It's it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, are you just a watcher or are you
Speaker 2: a participant in the ritual? And this is kind of
Speaker 2: the same but in more of a technological kind of way,
Speaker 2: just because something is free, like what, how are you
Speaker 2: paying for it? You know, because there's nothing that's free.
Speaker 2: And essentially you're the product, You're the thing. It's your
Speaker 2: data that they're collecting. That's your payment for this free
Speaker 2: system essentially, So the real cost of convenience is your mind.
Speaker 2: Why are the most advanced addicting in world shaping platforms
Speaker 2: like Facebook, TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, and Google completely free? Why
Speaker 2: are Alexa, smart TVs and wearable devices so cheap or
Speaker 2: bundled with other products? Because the real product isn't the app,
Speaker 2: The real value isn't the content. The real gold mine
Speaker 2: is you. These companies harvest emotional, behavioral and biometric data
Speaker 2: from billions of users, your scroll speed, blink rate, voice inflection,
Speaker 2: heart rate, even the pauses between taps. This is the
Speaker 2: raw material fed into AI to model, simulate, and eventually
Speaker 2: predict your future behavior. It's not just selling you ads anymore.
Speaker 2: It's building a digital twin of your psyche that can
Speaker 2: be nudged, triggered, and reprogrammed. So if you're not paying
Speaker 2: for the product, you are the product. This is the
Speaker 2: quiet revolution that most people missed. You thought you were
Speaker 2: watching cat videos. You were training a machine to emulate
Speaker 2: your emotional patterns. And here's where it turns dystopian if
Speaker 2: it's not there already. Once these systems know enough about
Speaker 2: humanity's collective desires, fears, biases, and beliefs, they can subtly
Speaker 2: shape reality itself, not by brute force, but by guiding
Speaker 2: your choices so you don't even know, so you don't
Speaker 2: even know that they were manipulated in the first place.
Speaker 2: The perfect form of control isn't through oppression, it's through
Speaker 2: invisible influence, making you believe the ideas are yours? Think
Speaker 2: like Cold War but your country on its own people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, essentially, But then at the same time, there's other
Speaker 3: countries that are doing it to others. And I mean
Speaker 3: again not to just shit on TikTok here, but this
Speaker 3: is exactly everybody's like the data mining right, Yes, it's
Speaker 3: with the AI and everything else. But why does China
Speaker 3: care about the American population's data? What are they trying
Speaker 3: to store all this for? Why does the American government?
Speaker 3: What kind of data could they possibly get from us?
Speaker 3: It's this.
Speaker 1: This is the data that is being stored.
Speaker 3: It's not just what videos you watched more or which
Speaker 3: influencers have more of a following than anyone else. And
Speaker 3: that's the data they're getting off of your social media apps.
Speaker 3: This is the data that they are keeping in reserve.
Speaker 3: This is the the servers, the data, and all these
Speaker 3: things that they are trying to hoard to use against you.
Speaker 2: It's literally this, oh dude, And so we got a
Speaker 2: couple of questions we just want to ask yourself to
Speaker 2: use to ask yourself. Not looking for an answer, but
Speaker 2: you know, just play around with it in your mind
Speaker 2: a little bit. What happens when the illusion of choice
Speaker 2: replaces real choice, when every desire can be planted without
Speaker 2: your awareness? What happens to your soul, your spirit, your
Speaker 2: you know, whatever you want to call it. Is this
Speaker 2: not the final evolution of mind control? When you love
Speaker 2: your servitude because you believe that you chose it, this
Speaker 2: is no longer about marketing. This is about engineering. Consciousness,
Speaker 2: one notification at a time. It's sick. It's sick.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 2: So yeah, now we're going to get to a couple
Speaker 2: of articles that I have pulled up here. We read
Speaker 2: the Neuromarketing, which we don't necessarily need to hit on again.
Speaker 2: But check this out. This is actually an article that
Speaker 2: was written in twenty twenty by thenew Yorker dot com,
Speaker 2: So we're talking even this is outdated by five years,
Speaker 2: so just keep that in mind. The article is called
Speaker 2: the Neuroscience of Picking a Presidential Candidate's fucking sick.
Speaker 1: Dude.
Speaker 3: They've literally put this out after the allegedly Trump lost
Speaker 3: to Biden.
Speaker 2: That's interesting. That is pretty interesting. So during the twenty
Speaker 2: sixteen presidential primary, spark neuro, a company that uses brain
Speaker 2: waves and other physiological signals to delve into the subliminal mind,
Speaker 2: decided to assess people's reactions to the Democratic candidates. The
Speaker 2: company had not launched yet, but its CEO, Spencer Jerrold,
Speaker 2: was eager to refine its technology in a test designed
Speaker 2: to uncover how people are actually feeling as opposed to
Speaker 2: how they say they are feeling. Spark Neuro observed, among
Speaker 2: other things, that the cadence of Bernie Sanders's voice grabbed
Speaker 2: people's attention, while Hillary Clinton's measured measured tones were a bore.
Speaker 1: This is very true.
Speaker 2: This is the subliminal shit that a lot of people
Speaker 2: don't pick up on, right, And that's what sick. That's
Speaker 2: what always say, Like, there's a lot of great podcasts
Speaker 2: that I love listening to, but my god, I have
Speaker 2: to go there only for the attention or just for
Speaker 2: the information essentially, because it's just a fucking monotone. I mean,
Speaker 2: like you, it all depends on your cadence and the
Speaker 2: energy that you bring in order to, you know, relay
Speaker 2: certain information. If you're Hillary fucking Clinton, who like, who's
Speaker 2: excited about that? Could you imagine if Killery tried starting
Speaker 2: her own podcast it would have fail?
Speaker 1: So, oh god, it's probably failing.
Speaker 2: I think she's actually tried it several times and it's
Speaker 2: never worked.
Speaker 1: There's a reason. There's a reason, I know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the only time she raises her voice
Speaker 2: is either when she's saying what difference does it make?
Speaker 2: Or whenever she i'm sure is running around frantically as
Speaker 2: she's wearing a child's face. But we're not going there,
Speaker 2: so to do. A few months later, Katz Media Group,
Speaker 2: a radio and television ad representative firmed, hired Gerald's Group
Speaker 2: to study a cohort of undecided voters in Florida and Pennsylvania,
Speaker 2: key swing states.
Speaker 1: Right yep.
Speaker 2: The company's chief marketing officer, Stacy Shulman, picked Spark neuro
Speaker 2: because its algorithm took into account an array of neurological
Speaker 2: and physiological signals. In her quote, subconscious emotion underlies conscious
Speaker 2: decision making, which is interesting for the marketing world but
Speaker 2: critically important in the political realm. Shulman told me. This measures,
Speaker 2: This measures how the body is responding, and it happens
Speaker 2: before you can even articulate it. Oh Man, So, neuromarketing,
Speaker 2: gauging consumers feelings and beliefs by observing and measuring spontaneous,
Speaker 2: unmeditated physiological responses to an ad or a sales pitch,
Speaker 2: is not new, it says in quotes. For a while,
Speaker 2: using neuroscience to do marketing was something of a fad,
Speaker 2: but it has been applied to commerce for a good
Speaker 2: ten years now. This is in twenty twenty, so fifteen now.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Nielsen, the storied media insight company, has a neuromarketing division,
Speaker 2: Google has been promoting what it calls emotional analytics to advertisers.
Speaker 2: A company called Real Eyes Like Real Eyes, claim to
Speaker 2: have trained artificial intelligence to read emotions through webcams. Another
Speaker 2: company called Effectiva says that it provides deep insight into
Speaker 2: unfiltered and unbiased consumer emotional response to brand content through
Speaker 2: what it calls facial coding. Similarly, Zimgo Pulling, a South
Speaker 2: Korean company that operates in the United States, has paired
Speaker 2: facial recognition technology with automated emotion understanding and natural language
Speaker 2: processing to give insights in quotes, to give insights into
Speaker 2: how people feel about real time issues, and thereby enables
Speaker 2: a virtual twenty four to seven town hall meeting with citizens.
Speaker 2: This is crucial, according to the CEO of Zimgo's parent company,
Speaker 2: because people vote on emotion just so right there.
Speaker 1: Just Forrell on the same page here.
Speaker 3: What they're saying is that the whole social credit score,
Speaker 3: the social credit system, they already have the infrastructure in
Speaker 3: place to enact it.
Speaker 1: They just haven't enacted it just yet.
Speaker 3: But on the day where they decide that, you know,
Speaker 3: we don't like the way that your eyes flickered when
Speaker 3: a certain ad played, or when a certain political candidate
Speaker 3: was given a speech, or whatever the case is.
Speaker 1: We think we're going to freeze your bank account. I
Speaker 1: think that's what's gonna happen. Now. They're already doing that
Speaker 1: in a couple of countries.
Speaker 3: This is showing that they have the capability to do
Speaker 3: it right now.
Speaker 2: Oh dude, yeah, it's it's so crazy. And you know,
Speaker 2: and just to completely shatter the red and blue paradigm.
Speaker 2: One calls it smart cities, the other one calls it
Speaker 2: freedom cities. Same exact funking thing, same fucking thing, same thing.
Speaker 2: So so anyway, getting back to it. Spark neuro the company.
Speaker 2: Their study of swing state voters was held two weeks
Speaker 2: before the twenty sixteen presidential election, and the quote it says,
Speaker 2: we would scan people's brains as they were watching different
Speaker 2: kinds of media and watch their emotion and attention responses
Speaker 2: as interpreted by our algorithms being read straight from their
Speaker 2: fucking brain. Okay, this is whether it's on your phone,
Speaker 2: on TV, on your tablet, your computer, whatever, right like,
Speaker 2: they're monitoring it. Why do you think that there's all
Speaker 2: the do you this is what's crazy, you know, the
Speaker 2: a lot of the old heads. I used to see
Speaker 2: a lot of the old heads doing this shit where
Speaker 2: they would take a piece of like black electrical tape
Speaker 2: and tape over their camera, their forward facing camera. Yep,
Speaker 2: it's brilliant. And even Edward Snowden does that mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Absolutely right, because you have to because they know that
Speaker 3: it is watching them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like how many little cameras or little dots are
Speaker 2: on your front camera? You know, like because there's there's
Speaker 2: more than you think, and you like, if you put
Speaker 2: it under a light and you can catch it at
Speaker 2: the right glare, you can see there's there's like fucking
Speaker 2: four or five little holes that you know, only one
Speaker 2: of them's for the camera, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Absolutely so so.
Speaker 2: Not only did Spark's research find that a number of
Speaker 2: people who self identified as undecided were actually connecting with
Speaker 2: Donald Trump on an emotional level, it also indicated that
Speaker 2: many others who claimed to be undecided were just too
Speaker 2: embarrassed or uncomfortable making their pro Trump feelings known. So
Speaker 2: in quotes, it says, some of these undecided voters would
Speaker 2: see that they had a strong emotional connection emotional reaction
Speaker 2: to let's say Trump talking about building the wall, Gerald said,
Speaker 2: and they would suddenly become much more introspective if Spark's Neuro.
Speaker 2: If spark Neuro's algorithm was accurate, which Jerald doubted at
Speaker 2: the time, then Clinton's chances to win were far less
Speaker 2: likely than had been widely predicted, which she did get smoked. Indeed,
Speaker 2: you know, so even the algorithm knew that that was
Speaker 2: going to happen.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So in January of twenty seventeen, two months after Clinton's loss,
Speaker 2: which was a win of sorts for spark Neuro's math,
Speaker 2: Jerrod launched the company with the backing of a number
Speaker 2: of deep pocket investors, including Peter Thiel, Michael Eisner, and
Speaker 2: Will Smith. I don't know if it's you know, actor
Speaker 2: Will Smith, but a Will Smith at least a common name.
Speaker 2: Let's just assume it's not Nold keep my wife's name out, folk.
Speaker 1: Let's assume it's.
Speaker 2: On him, right, right. So Jerald's clients, for the most part,
Speaker 2: are major consumer brands. Spark Neuro, for example, tested Nike's
Speaker 2: Nike's controversial Colin Kaepernick ad with its believe in something
Speaker 2: even if it means sacrificing everything tag and found that
Speaker 2: it played well with the buying public.
Speaker 1: Do you see this?
Speaker 2: Do you see how literally they will? I mean how
Speaker 2: hard was that Kaepernick shit being pushed? I mean it
Speaker 2: was crazy. I mean they literally It's the reason why
Speaker 2: there's a fucking black national anthem at every NFL game
Speaker 2: now because of that. Okay, I thought, no, that's it.
Speaker 2: They they tested it, some people liked it, some people
Speaker 2: hated it, and now people are like scared to stick
Speaker 2: up for themselves or if you if you say that
Speaker 2: it's stupid, then all of a sudden, you're a racist.
Speaker 2: So now I'm I'm almost positive that it's being played
Speaker 2: at every NFL game now, not even just the playoffs,
Speaker 2: not even just the super Bowl, like, not even important games.
Speaker 2: Just I mean, it could be a shitty game the
Speaker 2: Bears versus the Browns or something like that. Right, It's
Speaker 2: like they're playing the black national anthem and then they'll
Speaker 2: play the regular national anthem after that.
Speaker 1: Shit Up.
Speaker 3: I don't watch NFL because I don't, you know, I
Speaker 3: have better things to do with my time. But I
Speaker 3: had heard that they were talking about this. I thought
Speaker 3: that was shelved.
Speaker 1: Oh man, have you.
Speaker 2: Ever heard it? Have you ever heard the Black National.
Speaker 3: Anthem, I think possibly, but I also it's almost like
Speaker 3: what you would hear in a Baptist church.
Speaker 2: For being real.
Speaker 3: Here see at the twenty twenty five NFL Draft in
Speaker 3: Green Bay, Lift every voice and sing, often referred to
Speaker 3: as the Black National Anthem, was performed by Milwaukee choir
Speaker 3: before the start of the draft.
Speaker 2: Oh that's before the fucking draft, not even a game.
Speaker 3: Whow Okay, so I'm saying it before the draft. I
Speaker 3: don't know if this is before every single.
Speaker 2: Game or not, though, Holy shit, yeah dude, it's pretty crazy.
Speaker 2: But anyway, all of that was just essentially a seed
Speaker 2: to monitor reactions to buy Nike. By the way, this
Speaker 2: is all put on by Nike, and they used that
Speaker 2: add to promote selling their product. And that's what it
Speaker 2: says right here that it found that it played well
Speaker 2: with the buying public. Colin Kaepernick taking a knee during
Speaker 2: the national anthem played well for Nike.
Speaker 1: It's so well that he couldn't get a contract.
Speaker 2: They didn't need him there for years. He did it
Speaker 2: for a whole year, you know.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: And also leading up to that, he was assd like
Speaker 2: in his previous year, he was not good I mean
Speaker 2: also there's a couple of either, like a couple of
Speaker 2: you know, contributing factors to that. He also went vegan,
Speaker 2: which is not good for a football player. You know,
Speaker 2: it's just not smart. You're going up against fucking like
Speaker 2: literally the world's like crusaders. Like these are people that
Speaker 2: you would want on the front lines of a war
Speaker 2: back in the day that now we're just putting them
Speaker 2: in colisseums, you know what I mean. That guy went
Speaker 2: vegan and he played quarterback. Literally the guy that gets
Speaker 2: I mean quarterbacks nowadays they're getting sacked five, six, seven
Speaker 2: times a game because offensive line does not a fucking
Speaker 2: block anymore, and because of the extension of plays and
Speaker 2: play action anyway, I'm not going to get too far
Speaker 2: into that, but yeah, that helped with Nike. So even
Speaker 2: check this out the ad that they did for the
Speaker 2: Colin Kaepernick ad. The advertisement won an Emmy Award. That's
Speaker 2: how good it was.
Speaker 1: WHOA.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So the company also works with film companies, testing
Speaker 2: movie trailers to understand where they elicit strong emotion and
Speaker 2: where attention flags. Since trailers can make or break box
Speaker 2: office sales. It says in quotes, to be a blockbuster hit.
Speaker 2: What we're looking for is actually commonalities across groups where
Speaker 2: there's what we call a high degree of neural synchrony.
Speaker 2: In other words, my brain waves and your brain waves
Speaker 2: are in sync. That's what they're looking for in trailers. WHOA, yeah,
Speaker 2: so so far. Sparkner Jo has never worked for a
Speaker 2: particular candidate, though Jerald told me that he's interested in
Speaker 2: the potential application of our work in the political domain.
Speaker 2: Last June Spark Neuro and this is just Spark, This
Speaker 2: is just one of the companies. Okay, it's not the
Speaker 2: whole thing, but it says last June Spark Neuro put
Speaker 2: together a small group of likely Democrat voters. Of course
Speaker 2: it's going to be a Democrat thing, shocker, even though
Speaker 2: it is Peter Teel and he got his boy jd
Speaker 2: vance for the Republican side. So I'm not saying one
Speaker 2: side is better than the fuck another. Let's just be
Speaker 2: real here, But yeah, it says that he got together
Speaker 2: a small group of likely Democrat voters to watch in
Speaker 2: a bridge video reel of the primary season's first round
Speaker 2: of debates. The number of presidential contenders had swelled to twenty,
Speaker 2: and Jerrol and his team were curious if spark Neuroll's
Speaker 2: approach could tell them something that the polls, which at
Speaker 2: the time had Joe Biden at the top, were missing.
Speaker 2: They were unsurprised that the majority of participants, when asked
Speaker 2: who they were likely to vote for, said Biden, but
Speaker 2: the data showed something else. Elizabeth Warren, who at the
Speaker 2: time was a distant second or third, had engaged participants
Speaker 2: more than the other candidates. And Pete Boudhajidge. Isn't that
Speaker 2: the gay guy who respondents ranked as their sixth choice
Speaker 2: was rate behind her? So in an emotional response, According
Speaker 2: to this, Elizabeth Warren was the first one that was,
Speaker 2: you know, getting great to the hearts and minds of people,
Speaker 2: and right behind that was uh, Pete Boudhajudge. However you
Speaker 2: say his name. So three months later Warren briefly eclipse
Speaker 2: Biden in a number of national polls, and two months
Speaker 2: after that, Buddhajudge emerged as a top tier candidate. So
Speaker 2: traditional political polls, which are a small part of the
Speaker 2: three billion dollar public opinion research industry, are often widely
Speaker 2: divergent and, as we saw in twenty sixteen, unreliable. One
Speaker 2: reason for this, according to Jerrold is that people tend
Speaker 2: to say what they think others want to hear. Jarrold
Speaker 2: called this the social design ability bias. The innate desire
Speaker 2: to be liked, or they are susceptible to group think,
Speaker 2: or they or they say nothing because they don't want
Speaker 2: to be judged for their beliefs. This is especially problematic
Speaker 2: in politics, hence all the errors in polling and all
Speaker 2: the mistakes and campaign decisions. Subconscious feelings what spark neuro
Speaker 2: is after, are considered more reliable because they can't be
Speaker 2: easily gained or swayed by outside forces. We're not really
Speaker 2: conscious of our emotions in real time, Gerald said. Our
Speaker 2: algorithm is not reading minds. It's understanding if you are
Speaker 2: paying more attention or less attention, and if you're having
Speaker 2: stronger or weaker emotions, and to some degree, what the
Speaker 2: nature of those emotions are.
Speaker 3: That's what they're monitoring, save mine to that point, telling
Speaker 3: about how like the people will say what gets them
Speaker 3: to go along as best with the crowd, but what
Speaker 3: they actually do when it's time to vote, when it
Speaker 3: comes time to push a button and pull the lever,
Speaker 3: whatever the case would be. I've noticed this more often
Speaker 3: than not. Whenever you ask my who you vote for,
Speaker 3: I'm not talking about that with you. Guaranteed they're a liberal.
Speaker 3: Guaranteed they voted for a Democrat, and they don't want
Speaker 3: to deal with the backlash of like someone questioning their
Speaker 3: morality or questioning their logic behind or anything like this.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that there's no like proud Democrats.
Speaker 3: They'll tell you all about it like there, it definitely is,
Speaker 3: but more often than not, if you're asking somebody something
Speaker 3: political and they're just like, well, I'm not discussing that.
Speaker 3: I don't they're probably a Democrat. They're probably a closeted libtard.
Speaker 2: Well, and you can even say conversely that the Republicans
Speaker 2: are very loud and proud, because that's just the way
Speaker 2: the Republican Party has been swayed into going.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: You know, like I don't remember too many people like
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe it's because I was younger and I
Speaker 2: was living in Pennsylvania, which is historically a blue state,
Speaker 2: But whenever I was living up there, I don't remember
Speaker 2: bush flags, you know what I mean. I'm saying, like
Speaker 2: people hanging bush flags in their yard, do you remember that?
Speaker 2: Like you were living in a red state.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember people having signs in their yards for
Speaker 3: Bush and others having signs in their yard for Gore
Speaker 3: and all this. But dude, it was not as much
Speaker 3: of a tribalistic look as it would.
Speaker 1: There was no flags.
Speaker 3: Nobody was flying a Bush Cheney flag on their boat
Speaker 3: when they were going to the river. No, that was
Speaker 3: not the thing. You would see a yard sign. You
Speaker 3: would see bumper stickers. Sure, you would see the little
Speaker 3: the little stuff like that. These days it is seen
Speaker 3: more as a tribalistic calling card, if you will.
Speaker 1: It's insane.
Speaker 3: But also, I haven't seen to your point, I don't
Speaker 3: remember seeing any Obama flags flying. I know for a fact,
Speaker 3: I didn't see any Biden Harris flags flying behind people's
Speaker 3: trucks and shit. That is decidedly more of a thing
Speaker 3: for the right at this time in our history, that's for.
Speaker 1: Sure, right.
Speaker 2: That's my point was is that it has turned into
Speaker 2: a tribal group think kind of ideology to where you know,
Speaker 2: essentially the Republicans are usually loud and proud about it,
Speaker 2: whereas the Democrat voters. I mean, as you said, there
Speaker 2: are going to be a couple of stragglers that are
Speaker 2: gonna wave a Kamala Harris flag in their yard probably
Speaker 2: get egged in the process. But you know, it's just
Speaker 2: looking into the psychology, not even necessarily judging one side
Speaker 2: or the other, just looking at it as a whole.
Speaker 2: It's kind of interesting to look at. So I just
Speaker 2: scrolled a little bit down to the bottom to kind
Speaker 2: of try and get to the gist of this article.
Speaker 2: And remember, as I said, this is an article from
Speaker 2: five years ago. And also remember as I said, that
Speaker 2: this company is funded by Peter Teel. Right, I mean,
Speaker 2: it's saying right here that they weren't using it, that
Speaker 2: the politicians weren't using it to sway elections one way
Speaker 2: or another back in twenty twenty. This is just what's
Speaker 2: out in the open. They weren't admitting it yet, right, right, right,
Speaker 2: But of course you add four and a half five
Speaker 2: years to this, and if this study has been shown
Speaker 2: to be what was it seventy eight percent correct, then
Speaker 2: of course political candidates are going to be using it.
Speaker 2: Of course, Peter Teel had something to do with it, which,
Speaker 2: of course JD. Vance had something to do with it, which,
Speaker 2: of course Donald Trump and his whole cabinet had something
Speaker 2: to do with it. It only makes sense if you're
Speaker 2: connecting fucking logical dots here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I I see the connections. I'm not
Speaker 3: even saying one hundred percent that Trump had something to
Speaker 3: do with it or Vance, because let's keep this in mind.
Speaker 3: Vance isn't a tech guy, right, He studied under Peter Teel.
Speaker 3: Teal is the tech guy, awe hundred percent. But he
Speaker 3: endorsed Vance. It's not like Vance is like some tech guru.
Speaker 3: He he got in with the right crowd and they
Speaker 3: promoted him to be their boy in the political space.
Speaker 2: Oh dude, Peter o'teal groomed JD.
Speaker 3: Vance, but didn't groom him to take over in Silic
Speaker 3: Valley somewhere. He groomed him to be a DC guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: See what I'm saying, which is an arm of that.
Speaker 3: It's he hoped that they would pass legislation to let
Speaker 3: the tech industry take off in bigger ways and then.
Speaker 3: But keep in mind, he was in a never Trumper
Speaker 3: for up until in including the day where Trump called
Speaker 3: him and offered him the VP position.
Speaker 1: He was shitting on Trump, and so was Peter Teel.
Speaker 2: Well maybe that was on purpose to try and fly
Speaker 2: under the radar.
Speaker 3: You know, he's been spitting that shit for years, though
Speaker 3: it wasn't just like a current thing.
Speaker 1: But but I'm to your point.
Speaker 3: Also, I could see a world where Trump realized what
Speaker 3: was needed in order to win an election and how
Speaker 3: you can't pull out.
Speaker 1: You gotta pull out all the stops, you know.
Speaker 3: What I'm saying. You can't hold back anything. And if
Speaker 3: you're telling me that, all I gotta do is get
Speaker 3: with this tech giant and he'll be able to work
Speaker 3: these algorithms in my favor.
Speaker 1: All right, Hey, Teal, let's talk brother. What do you need?
Speaker 3: Hey, you have a VP spot, that's so, and I
Speaker 3: have a guy for you. Uh okay, who is he? Yeah,
Speaker 3: a guy who's been shitting on you for a while.
Speaker 3: But you're gonna offer him the job and I'll give
Speaker 3: you the data in you know, in kind for that.
Speaker 3: All right, boom JD. You're rolling with me now. At
Speaker 3: one hundred percent, I could see that happening.
Speaker 2: I mean, it could be that, but I also believe that,
Speaker 2: you know, even a Chinese sleeper sell in America would
Speaker 2: wave an American flag at a Fourth of July while
Speaker 2: drinking a fucking PBR you think that wouldn't happen if
Speaker 2: you're trying to blend.
Speaker 3: In yes and no, yes and no spies doing spy
Speaker 3: type shit to like go under the radar.
Speaker 1: I could see it. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm not even saying that JD. Vans is necessarily a spy.
Speaker 3: I think that he's a puppet. He is being used
Speaker 3: by the tech giants to work his way into the
Speaker 3: White House. You know, nobody's paying attention to what the
Speaker 3: VP's doing, which is why Cheney was allowed to have
Speaker 3: all of his Haliburton connections make him all that money
Speaker 3: while two wars are going on. Everybody was paying attention
Speaker 3: to Bush. Same thing with Obama. Nobody was paying attention
Speaker 3: to Biden aka the big Guy. Make all these bereizma
Speaker 3: deals happen all over the world, but specifically in Ukraine.
Speaker 3: No one paid attention with the VP was doing. Now
Speaker 3: right now, everybody's paying attention to Trump. Does anybody know
Speaker 3: what JD. Vance is doing and going around the world
Speaker 3: and all these things. Yeah, he was with the Pope
Speaker 3: the week he died. Okay, you got me there. But
Speaker 3: aside from when he makes these big public appearances, does
Speaker 3: anybody know what he's doing on his regular day to
Speaker 3: day now.
Speaker 2: I haven't been keeping up too much with him.
Speaker 1: Nobody is that's the point. No eyes are on him.
Speaker 3: All eyes are on Trump, All sizes are on Pambondy,
Speaker 3: Dan Bongino and fucking crazy eyes of cash right, they're, they're, they're,
Speaker 3: all eyes are on them. No one's paying attention to
Speaker 3: where old, oh fucking jd is making crazy deals happen
Speaker 3: under the radar.
Speaker 2: So what you're saying is is that we could potentially
Speaker 2: be looking at a situation in which jd Vance is
Speaker 2: using Trump as to go back to the be in conversation,
Speaker 2: a beard.
Speaker 3: I think that jd Vance is being used as Peter
Speaker 3: Teel's beard.
Speaker 2: He's the plug even better. So all right, let's get
Speaker 2: back to the end of this article. So it says
Speaker 2: it's not a stretch to imagine campaigns using neuromarketing tools
Speaker 2: to exploit psychological vulnerabilities. Preying on voters underlying emotions was
Speaker 2: the premise of Camberge Analytica's psychographic approach, and public outrage
Speaker 2: not only if it's data collection methods of its data
Speaker 2: collection methods, but the way it used emotionally loaded fear
Speaker 2: based messaging to manipulate. Maybe why campaigns are reluctant to
Speaker 2: admit that they are using neuromarketing techniques to test and
Speaker 2: craft their messages. As Joel Beninson, a senior advisor of
Speaker 2: Clinton's twenty sixteen presidential bid, told me, I don't know
Speaker 2: if any campaign would talk about using these methods because
Speaker 2: voters would get spooked. Well, yeah, you wouldn't fucking say
Speaker 2: it out in the open, right right. So to that point, Clark,
Speaker 2: who is also a lecturer at Dartmouth, said that she
Speaker 2: was not at liberty to divulge which candidates that bell
Speaker 2: Weather was working with another one of these companies, right, yep,
Speaker 2: So she was, you know, like this Bellwether. At least
Speaker 2: Bellweather was working with certain candidates, but she couldn't say
Speaker 2: who it was for, right exactly.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 2: Moron Moron Moran Surf, a neuroscientist and a professor at
Speaker 2: Northwestern's Kellogg School of Management, told me, every two years
Speaker 2: I get an email from at least one campaign asking
Speaker 2: for help. I had one recently, I declined, but I
Speaker 2: can't imagine that another neuroscience didn't say yes. So Jerald,
Speaker 2: who said that his ultimate goal is to use the
Speaker 2: tools that Spark neuro is developing to improve cognitive health.
Speaker 2: Is not unaware of the of the dystopian effects of
Speaker 2: using neuroscience to uncover political sentiments. It's a slippery slope,
Speaker 2: he said, When have we gone too far? I think
Speaker 2: it's an incredibly important question that should involve a lot
Speaker 2: of people, from academia to industry. It's important what we
Speaker 2: do with this technology and who we do it with. See,
Speaker 2: that's the danger because typically Silicon Valley is always very
Speaker 2: left leaning.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, well, well yes and no.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean traditionally, yes, I would say, but maybe
Speaker 2: not so.
Speaker 3: The lower level guys and even the middle management guys.
Speaker 1: I'll say, yes, the top dogs of it.
Speaker 3: They may portray that they're left leaning, but they're also
Speaker 3: in the highest tax bracket known to man, and if
Speaker 3: they want to keep that money, they'll vote conservative.
Speaker 1: Right. But I mean, you always have the outliers.
Speaker 3: You have the Mark Cubans, who's a bleeding heart liberal
Speaker 3: even though he makes all of that money, which blows
Speaker 3: my mind. If you're so liberal, why don't you just
Speaker 3: hand over all of your money to the less fortunate,
Speaker 3: because that's how you vote.
Speaker 1: So like why don't you just do it.
Speaker 3: You're a billionaire, so give your billions to inner city communities,
Speaker 3: and I don't mean a fraction of it, And don't
Speaker 3: fucking virtue signal about how much you give even though
Speaker 3: you still are worth billions. You can give more, That's
Speaker 3: what you and and Bernie Sanders and all these other
Speaker 3: lib screaming heads have been saying for years. So like,
Speaker 3: how are you still so rich when there's still so
Speaker 3: much iniquity in this world?
Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they all just speak out both sides of their
Speaker 2: fucking ass. Dude, is really what bullshit? It's all fucking bullshit,
Speaker 2: all of it is. Nobody is sincere in politics. It
Speaker 2: doesn't exist. You know, you gotta be such a sketchy
Speaker 2: person to even get looked at in politics. Let's just
Speaker 2: be real, dude, Like it's always who's dick? Are you sucking?
Speaker 2: How did you get their Kamala Harris type vibes for
Speaker 2: literally everybody?
Speaker 1: Yup?
Speaker 3: Which is how I think It's so crazy not to
Speaker 3: detract here, but how the Muslim socialist is about to
Speaker 3: be mayor of New York City?
Speaker 1: Like, how did he get there? Who's dick? Did he suck?
Speaker 1: What algorithm was he working off of?
Speaker 3: And then when we're looking at it through that lens,
Speaker 3: this entire situation takes a whole different approach, doesn't it.
Speaker 3: And I agree it's it's very scary about what's about
Speaker 3: to take place in New York City.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, it's gonna get wild. But I mean, let's
Speaker 2: just read on how much more wild it'll get. So
Speaker 2: it said, you know, have we gone too far? And
Speaker 2: it's important what we do with this technology and who
Speaker 2: we do it with. So the firm might take on
Speaker 2: issues like gun control or climate change to help advocates
Speaker 2: craft more effective advertisements, and has chosen not to take
Speaker 2: on tobacco companies as clients.
Speaker 1: Okay, shocker, I mean whatever.
Speaker 2: But it's like it's all for like climate change and
Speaker 2: gun control. Though, like that's not too far, But let's
Speaker 2: worry about people smoking cigarettes, which is not good either,
Speaker 2: but obviously those are I believe way more harsher issues
Speaker 2: than smoking.
Speaker 1: I promise you.
Speaker 3: Emphysema kills more people every year than gun violence.
Speaker 2: Good point, you know, but I mean, if you're trying
Speaker 2: to take away guns, you know, shit, that's the way
Speaker 2: that this is talking but it says it is currently
Speaker 2: working with the Department of Defense to understand the specific
Speaker 2: appeal embedded in terrorist recruitment materials in order to make
Speaker 2: equally powerful counter propaganda. Says, each leader of any given
Speaker 2: company doing work like this needs to figure out where
Speaker 2: to draw the line for themselves. It's contingent on us
Speaker 2: to try to make that line as hard as we
Speaker 2: can and not cross it again. An article from five
Speaker 2: years ago. Yeah, so they're getting with the recruiting methods
Speaker 2: that terrorists are using. Yeah, yeah, and using counter propaganda
Speaker 2: with this shit.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not hard to see what type of
Speaker 3: propaganda terrorist groups are using to recruit new members. It's
Speaker 3: that's that's how insurrection works and operates. And do you
Speaker 3: remember when ISIS released their training video to try to
Speaker 3: make them look super badass and it was embarrassing, but
Speaker 3: they thought they.
Speaker 2: Looked great, look very scripted.
Speaker 3: Yeah, these dudes are like running around with like twigs
Speaker 3: sticking out of their hats to look like they were
Speaker 3: super camouflaged. These dudes wearing black pajamas in the desert
Speaker 3: doing all these obstacle courses, super high speed ooh special Forces,
Speaker 3: and it's like bro I'm pretty sure my ten year
Speaker 3: old could run circles around you on that exact same
Speaker 3: obstacle course, so what are you doing? But they use
Speaker 3: it as a recruiting tool and it went semi okay
Speaker 3: for him, I suppose. But you're also going off of people.
Speaker 3: You're recruiting from an area of people who already want
Speaker 3: a jihad to happen. So it's not you know, plentiful
Speaker 3: harvest fields if you will.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, any, I mean that's that's an easy way
Speaker 2: for sure, Like that seems like it would be easy.
Speaker 2: I'm I think that they just use that as an
Speaker 2: example to say, see, we're using it for good, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like they always try and say.
Speaker 2: And that's not to say that these things can't be
Speaker 2: used for good. I mean I think that any amount
Speaker 2: of data can be used in the right way, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean we need data. I mean, I mean everybody
Speaker 2: likes to hate on fucking what was it, like Hitler
Speaker 2: and all them, right, But like a lot of what
Speaker 2: we know in science and how the human mind and
Speaker 2: how the human body works comes from a lot of that,
Speaker 2: a lot of that shit, you know. So it's like
Speaker 2: data doesn't care if it's good or bad. It's just
Speaker 2: going to be data.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's very true, or where it came from.
Speaker 3: Right, The facts and figures are the facts and figures,
Speaker 3: regardless of where you got it from. That being said,
Speaker 3: there is a bit of an ethical question whenever we
Speaker 3: get to that level of data extraction.
Speaker 2: Right, which I believe that we are far breached that
Speaker 2: like we have like they've crossed the line already with
Speaker 2: just even gathering this information without people knowing about it. So,
Speaker 2: and to take it a step farther, we're going to
Speaker 2: go over to PubMed and this is by the uh
Speaker 2: the National Institute of Health dot government website as well.
Speaker 2: So and this is going to get into We're not
Speaker 2: going to read the whole thing because it gets you know,
Speaker 2: real scientific and I mean it shows a lot of sources.
Speaker 2: It's not really that long. I guess we can read it.
Speaker 2: It says unraveling Neuropathways of political engagement, bridging neuro marketing
Speaker 2: and political science for understanding voter behavior and political leader perception. Wow,
Speaker 2: down to a fucking science, dude, So politically. The abstract
Speaker 2: it says, political neuromarketing is an emerging discipline interdisciplinary field
Speaker 2: integrating marketing, neuroscience, and psychology to decipher voter behavior in
Speaker 2: political reader perception. Let me see when this was written
Speaker 2: two thousand and three or twenty twenty three, rather so
Speaker 2: three years after that. Initially what we read, they're already
Speaker 2: using it. They're like, Oh, that's going to be a
Speaker 2: line that I don't know if we can cross. Just
Speaker 2: give it three fucking years, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: This interdisciplinary field offers novel techniques to understand complex phenomena
Speaker 2: such as voter engagement, political leadership, and party branding. The
Speaker 2: study aims to understand the neuroactivation patterns of voters when
Speaker 2: they are exposed to political leaders using functional near infrared
Speaker 2: spectroscopy and machine learning methods. We recruited participants and recorded
Speaker 2: their brain activity using that fNIRS when they were exposed
Speaker 2: to images of different political leaders, and the results were interesting.
Speaker 2: The neuroimaging method reveals brain region central to brand perception,
Speaker 2: including the or Dorso lateral prefontal cortex, the Dorso medial
Speaker 2: prefrontal cortex, and the ventromedial prefrontal cortex. So these are
Speaker 2: the parts of the brain that they were monitoring. Machine
Speaker 2: learning methods were used to predict the participants perceptions of
Speaker 2: leaders based on their brain activity. The study was identified
Speaker 2: or has idea if i'd the brain regions that are
Speaker 2: involved in processing political stimuli and making judgments about political leaders.
Speaker 2: Within this study, the best performing machine learning model light
Speaker 2: GBM achieved a highest accuracy highest accuracy score of seventy
Speaker 2: eight percent, underscoring the its efficacy in predicting voters' perceptions
Speaker 2: of political leaders based on brain activity of the former.
Speaker 2: So this is getting into what I was reading earlier
Speaker 2: saying that they are using it and they're predicting it
Speaker 2: with seventy eight percent accuracy, which is I mean, if
Speaker 2: you think about it, it's pretty damn good.
Speaker 1: Oh it's a fucking se on a test, dude.
Speaker 2: And it's only going to get better. You know, more
Speaker 2: data is going to get inputted into these machine learning things,
Speaker 2: and they're going to know what to look for, and
Speaker 2: they're just gonna you know, pick out and add and
Speaker 2: take away, and before you know it, it's going to
Speaker 2: be ninety nine percent accuracy. Don't get I mean, it's
Speaker 2: probably not even going to be that.
Speaker 3: Long do now with the influx of AI being self
Speaker 3: learning and self teaching and all these things.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, dude, it's it's seventy eight percent. You just
Speaker 2: said seventy eight percent accuracy. Yeah, without without the person
Speaker 2: saying a word, literally reading their brain scans, they got it.
Speaker 2: If this goes to ninety nine point nine here in
Speaker 2: the next two years, honestly. Yeah. So, the findings from
Speaker 2: this study provide new insights into the neual basis of
Speaker 2: political decision making and the development of effective political marketing campaigns,
Speaker 2: while bridging neuro marketing, political science, and machine learning, in
Speaker 2: turn enabling predictive insights into voter preferences and behavior. So
Speaker 2: if you didn't know, now you know. Indeed, uh didn't
Speaker 2: want to finish that sentence. So all right, here's another one.
Speaker 2: This is by Research Nestor dot Com, and this says
Speaker 2: neuro marketing solutions markets size and share by technology, and
Speaker 2: it gets into the fMRI, the EEG biometrics, facial coding,
Speaker 2: I tracking and banking, financial services, insurance is using it.
Speaker 2: Retail consumer brands, market research and scientific institutions, global supply
Speaker 2: and demand analysis, growth forecasts, and statistics. All right, So,
Speaker 2: I mean fucking everybody's in on it. Why wouldn't you
Speaker 2: if it's even if it's already at seventy eight percent.
Speaker 2: It's only going to get better, so it says. Neuromarketing
Speaker 2: solutions market size was over two point one two billion
Speaker 2: dollars in twenty twenty four, and it's poised to exceed
Speaker 2: six point nine to eight billion by twenty thirty seven,
Speaker 2: growing at a rate of nine point six percent cagr.
Speaker 2: Whatever that is during the forecast period, so for example,
Speaker 2: between twenty twenty five and twenty thirty seven, that's they
Speaker 2: believe it's going to grow at that rate. In the
Speaker 2: year twenty twenty five, the industry size of neuromarketing solutions
Speaker 2: is evaluated at two point four six billion dollars. Neuromarketing
Speaker 2: has become much more significant in recent years and its
Speaker 2: demand has increasingly or increased considerably owing to the increased
Speaker 2: emphasis placed on the consumer through marketing and predominant digitalization
Speaker 2: around the globe. The drastic advancements and technology in every
Speaker 2: sector of the economy has propelled the need for technological
Speaker 2: innovation in the advertisement industry, thereby raising the need for
Speaker 2: studying neuromarketing and its application in multiple industries. Look at this,
Speaker 2: thereby raising the need for studying neuromarketing.
Speaker 1: It's a need.
Speaker 2: We have to have it right, that's how they like
Speaker 2: to put it. So. Moreover, growing advertising spending of businesses
Speaker 2: is also poised to act as a significant growth factor
Speaker 2: for the global neuromarketing solutions market. For instance, more than
Speaker 2: nine percent of the revenue is spent by the companies
Speaker 2: on the marketing, So nine percent of the average corporation
Speaker 2: is being spent on marketing. As it says, So, of course,
Speaker 2: I mean that's a large that's a large chunk. Like
Speaker 2: if you're Walmart, if you're Amazon, think about the amount
Speaker 2: of money nine percent of you know, whatever you made
Speaker 2: in that year is going straight to marketing. Of course
Speaker 2: you're going to want to invest in better ways of marketing.
Speaker 1: Right for sure.
Speaker 2: So in addition to these factors that are believed to
Speaker 2: fuel the market growth of neuromarketing solutions are the opportunities
Speaker 2: generated as a result of the growing focus of the
Speaker 2: media and entertainment companies on developing advertising tactics which capitalizes
Speaker 2: on the widespread use of smartphones backed by the increasing
Speaker 2: deployment of high speed data networks. Digital marketers worldwide are
Speaker 2: highly influenced by neuromarketing as it helps them create conversion
Speaker 2: path based on a basis on the cognitive characteristics of
Speaker 2: the consumers, which further helps them to convey and contribute
Speaker 2: to their specific economic choices. Besides this, the market growth
Speaker 2: can be attributed to the rising research and development activities
Speaker 2: in the field of neurosime acience, especially to study the
Speaker 2: cognitive behavior of human beings utilizing different cognitive models, also
Speaker 2: known as the persuasion code. Why wow, that's interesting. So, yeah,
Speaker 2: you see it right here, the global Neuromarketing Solutions market
Speaker 2: overview on just about every continent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, except for Australia. Somehow they got out of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And so then it talks about the key players
Speaker 2: in the market, and you know a couple of the
Speaker 2: names that we had mentioned. The challenges It says high
Speaker 2: cost associated with neuromarketing and regulatory challenges related to neuromarketing.
Speaker 2: So you're not going to have small companies doing this
Speaker 2: necessarily unless they're connected to a more a bigger branching
Speaker 2: ad agency.
Speaker 3: But why if the data has already been collected, why
Speaker 3: wouldn't they just sell that in to even the smaller companies.
Speaker 1: If they're willing to pay for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you would think. But yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: if you can predict, you know, elections with seventy eight
Speaker 2: percent accuracy, imagine how good it's going to do in
Speaker 2: the in the consumer marketing, you know ERA. So yeah,
Speaker 2: So it says Global market Analysis in United States, millions
Speaker 2: of dollars in the United States dollar by the million
Speaker 2: by technology in twenty thirty three. They're expecting what is it,
Speaker 2: one thousand millions is a billion, so that would be
Speaker 2: one billion, one and seventy one million people that are
Speaker 2: using I don't know why they use different shades of blue,
Speaker 2: like fucking change the color up a little bit, right,
Speaker 2: But it looks like that would be EEG. So wow,
Speaker 2: they believe EEG is going to be really up there.
Speaker 2: But it's nothing really compared to eye tracking on your
Speaker 2: fucking phone. Yeah, that's going to be the top neurohacking way.
Speaker 3: Is eye tracking, I believe, at one hundred percent, because
Speaker 3: even if you don't tap the screen, even if you
Speaker 3: don't skip the ad or whatever else, they can gauge
Speaker 3: based off of your retinas. How you responded to this,
Speaker 3: What emotional impulses did you have? What chemicals your brain released,
Speaker 3: all from the click or the flash, if you will,
Speaker 3: from that infrared in the camera that's facing you every
Speaker 3: time you're on your phone.
Speaker 2: Eyes are the windows to the soul and to the
Speaker 2: neurohacking as well.
Speaker 1: I guess absolutely.
Speaker 2: So. It says there's rising adoption of novel marketing activities
Speaker 2: across retail and consumer brands. The global neuromarketing solutions market
Speaker 2: is growing owing to the increasing use of neuroscience marketing,
Speaker 2: followed by the rising demand for digital marketing. By the
Speaker 2: use of functional magnetic resonance imaging and electro and cephlogram tools,
Speaker 2: businesses can scan the brain of people. The collected information
Speaker 2: helps to assess the physiological and neural signals of a
Speaker 2: particular advertisement, packaging, and design that has been promoted by
Speaker 2: the organization. Marketers show customers advertisements, packaging, or product designs
Speaker 2: while tracking customer reactions and brain activity even the packaging
Speaker 2: they're making. There they're watching that right WHOA. So companies
Speaker 2: can determine what steps to take next after receiving responses
Speaker 2: and measuring changes. Therefore, such a factor is predicted to
Speaker 2: boost the market's growth over the forecast period. For instance,
Speaker 2: more than sixty five percent of the marketers across the
Speaker 2: globe surge their brand awareness their brand awareness using one
Speaker 2: or more digital marketing channels. So already that's taking a
Speaker 2: step right there. So it says the increasing need to
Speaker 2: analyze consumers buying behavior across industries using neuromarketing technology the
Speaker 2: need for it. Then there's increasing research on viewability rate.
Speaker 1: Oh boy.
Speaker 2: So it has been observed that emotional expressions lead to
Speaker 2: a twenty nine percent higher viewability rate on digital screens
Speaker 2: and slightly greater consumer impact. It is predicted that this
Speaker 2: boom would continue over the forecasted period.
Speaker 3: So even if they don't see you have a response
Speaker 3: to it, they are what like he'said, twenty nine percent
Speaker 3: more likely to show it to you more often to
Speaker 3: get a response from you. You're gonna get the data,
Speaker 3: whether you are cognizant of it or not, because eventually
Speaker 3: they're gonna catch you slipping and they're gonna see you
Speaker 3: roll your eyes, scoff, smile, whatever the case is. They're
Speaker 3: gonna see your eyes dilate eventually. So even if you
Speaker 3: don't respond, they'll still find ways to plug this ad
Speaker 3: or whatever in front of you. So much to where
Speaker 3: you finally do respond.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, dude. So high growth in neuroscience industry, which
Speaker 2: we had talked about in the rise and demand for
Speaker 2: neuroscience technological products. Oh, this is going to be a
Speaker 2: good one. So of course they're going to come out
Speaker 2: with two with new technology that would inspire you to
Speaker 2: wear something so that they can pull more metadata from
Speaker 2: you beyond just you know, the Apple watches and stuff.
Speaker 2: You know, they have those programmable wedding rings nowadays that
Speaker 2: will read you know, your pulse rate and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: I imagine it's collecting all types of data, right. So,
Speaker 2: and they have like programmable necklaces, programmable fucking earrings, as
Speaker 2: we saw with Kamala Harris speaking into her you know,
Speaker 2: into her earring. Right.
Speaker 1: How about those meta glasses.
Speaker 2: We keep seeing ads for metaglasses exactly. Yep. So it
Speaker 2: says industry players consistently invest in R and D activities
Speaker 2: to provide clients with affordable and efficient neuromarketing solutions and
Speaker 2: achieve higher conversion rates through superior marketing and promotional strategies. Moreover,
Speaker 2: the companies are investing in new technological products for understanding
Speaker 2: the purchasing power of the customers. Besides this, the growing
Speaker 2: trade of devices that are used for neuroscience studies is
Speaker 2: also anticipated to boost the growth of the market in
Speaker 2: the upcoming years. As per the data, estimated, the imported
Speaker 2: value of magnetic resonance imaging or MRI and twenty twenty
Speaker 2: one across the world was five million four under twenty
Speaker 2: six and fifty six. So that's only going to rise.
Speaker 2: And you might think, oh, it's just it's just you know,
Speaker 2: it's telling me how many steps I took today. You know,
Speaker 2: it's it's measuring my my my heart rate, it is
Speaker 2: doing all that. But it's sharing all this data with
Speaker 2: other people as well. So and you also got to
Speaker 2: think even the people that like wear those watches all day,
Speaker 2: you're not exercising all fucking day, you know, Like it's
Speaker 2: it's literally so now you have your phone recording all
Speaker 2: the data with you know, the the flickerrate of your
Speaker 2: eyes and your emotional response, do your your your facial
Speaker 2: expressions and all that stuff, and then you add in
Speaker 2: what was your heart rate, like you know what I
Speaker 2: mean with the wearable bracelet and everything. So it's collecting
Speaker 2: so much fucking data, dude, it's insane. So yeah, that's
Speaker 2: one of the things we wanted to get into. Now,
Speaker 2: this is an interesting one. There's a company called Neurofocus.
Speaker 2: It was a neuromarketing and neuroscience research company founded in
Speaker 2: two thousand and five by a group of academics and
Speaker 2: engineers from UC Berkeley that focused on applying neuroscience, neurology,
Speaker 2: and neurological testing to a wide range of fields such
Speaker 2: as marketing, advertising, consumer research, branding, product development, and entertainment content.
Speaker 2: In twenty eleven, consumer research and analytics firm Nielsen Holdings
Speaker 2: acquired full ownership of Neurofocus as part of Nielsen's product
Speaker 2: innovation practice, which we kind of talked a little bit
Speaker 2: about before. So we're not going to go too far
Speaker 2: into that, but it just goes to show since two
Speaker 2: thousand and five, they've really put it into place. Whow
Speaker 2: it's two thousand and five, which makes sense because think
Speaker 2: about it, like MySpace was going on back then. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, and so that was really one of the
Speaker 2: first It's interesting that a lot of this stuff didn't
Speaker 2: really start coming out until people started getting heavily involved
Speaker 2: in social media and stuff like that. Right now, I
Speaker 2: don't know if they were involved in monitoring you know,
Speaker 2: you on MySpace. But I mean, anything's possible.
Speaker 1: I guess when was the first iPhone developed?
Speaker 2: I want to say two thousand and seven because I
Speaker 2: think that it came out my either my junior year
Speaker 2: or my senior year of high school.
Speaker 3: So two thousand seven, okay, So they were already looking
Speaker 3: for these things before the iPhone was even a thing.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, And so that's what's crazy, bro. For twenty years,
Speaker 3: they've had companies that have been gathering your personal data
Speaker 3: so that they can market things to you or persuade you,
Speaker 3: which I mean marketing and persuasion. We're saying the same
Speaker 3: thing with different terms here, positive or negative.
Speaker 1: They have been doing this for going on twenty.
Speaker 2: Years right now, yep, yep, big time, and it's only
Speaker 2: going to get better as technology does slash worse for us.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, better for them. So now I wanted to
Speaker 2: go over here. This is another PubMed article by the
Speaker 2: National Institute of Health, and it says a systematic review
Speaker 2: on EEG based neuro marketing, recent trends and analyzing techniques.
Speaker 2: So when was this? This is in twenty twenty four
Speaker 2: June fifth, twenty twenty four, So basically, you know a
Speaker 2: little over a year ago, wow, it says. Neuro Marketing
Speaker 2: is an emergent research field that aims to understand consumer's
Speaker 2: decision making processes when choosing which product to buy. This
Speaker 2: information is highly sought after by businesses looking to improve
Speaker 2: their marketing strategies by understanding what leaves a positive or
Speaker 2: negative impression on consumers. It has the potential to revolutionize
Speaker 2: the marketing industry by enabling companies to offer engaging experiences,
Speaker 2: create more effective advertisement, avoid the wrong marketing strategies, and
Speaker 2: ultimately save millions of dollars for businesses. Therefore, good documentation
Speaker 2: is necessary to capture the current research situation in this
Speaker 2: vital sector. In this article, we present a systematic review
Speaker 2: of EEG based neuromarketing. We aim to shed light on
Speaker 2: research treads, trends, technical scopes, and potential opportunities in this field.
Speaker 2: We reviewed recent publications from valid databases and divided the
Speaker 2: popular research topics and neuromarketing into five clusters to present
Speaker 2: the current research trend in this field. We also discussed
Speaker 2: the brain regions that are activated when making purchases or
Speaker 2: making purchase decisions and their relevance to neuromarketing applications. The
Speaker 2: article provides appropriate illustrations of marketing stimuli that can elicit
Speaker 2: authentic impressions from consumer umor's minds, the technique techniques used
Speaker 2: to process and analyze recorded brain data, and current strategies
Speaker 2: employed to interpret the data. Finally, we offer recommendations to
Speaker 2: upcoming researchers to help them investigate the possibilities in this
Speaker 2: area more effectively in the future. My question is, why
Speaker 2: is the NIH and popmed interested in what is going
Speaker 2: to be making advertisers more money?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 3: Indeed, right makes you wonder could it be that they
Speaker 3: have a hand in these ad agencies. Well, maybe they
Speaker 3: stand to gain financially or data mining from these ad
Speaker 3: agencies who are running their own data programs in the process.
Speaker 2: Well, and think about it like this. We talk about
Speaker 2: all the time. You know, the head of the board
Speaker 2: of NIH, who you know just so happened to be
Speaker 2: hired from Pfizer and vice versa. Same thing with the
Speaker 2: World Health Organization. Here we go, Oh, this is somebody
Speaker 2: that used to work for Johnson and fucking Johnson, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. It's like they're all working together
Speaker 2: it's not that they're separate. People look at the world
Speaker 2: at World Health Organization and the National Institute of Health
Speaker 2: and you know, the CDC and all these things as
Speaker 2: like separate from the companies and they're the overarching overlords
Speaker 2: that are the ones that are demanding certain things from
Speaker 2: these smaller corporations. But it's actually inverted. They're working together.
Speaker 2: It's they're not like they've been bought out as well,
Speaker 2: you know, and you know, everybody knows the prime example
Speaker 2: of the marketing campaign with smoking cigarettes back in the
Speaker 2: day for pregnant women, right yeah, mad Men made a
Speaker 2: whole fucking show about it.
Speaker 1: Very true.
Speaker 2: So all right, so it gets into the introduction. I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna go over like what we already went over,
Speaker 2: but we'll just dive in right here. It says large
Speaker 2: large businesses like Google, Unilever, Microsoft, of course, Microsoft and
Speaker 2: fucking Bill Gates got an to it and others utilize
Speaker 2: the findings from more than one hundred and fifty consumer
Speaker 2: neuroscientific firms that are commercially functioning worldwide to influence their
Speaker 2: customers or their consumers in a targeted and effective manner.
Speaker 2: So Google and Microsoft already doing this.
Speaker 1: I can believe it one hundred percent, especially those two right.
Speaker 2: So this innovation has been made possible by academic research,
Speaker 2: particularly the tremendous analytical reliability of the engineering sector of neuromarketing. Therefore,
Speaker 2: it is essential to look into the foundations of neuromarketing
Speaker 2: to assess its scopes and capabilities, and to offer fresh
Speaker 2: insight into this area. There have been several review articles
Speaker 2: on the theoretical aspects of consumer neuroscience, covering various disciplines
Speaker 2: such as marketing, business ethics, business ethics. If that's not
Speaker 2: a fucking oxymoron, I don't know what is.
Speaker 3: I mean, what we would consider ethical business practices is
Speaker 3: a little different than what they're.
Speaker 2: Talking about, I would think, right right, So I just
Speaker 2: can't stand this shit, dude. So yeah, right here, if
Speaker 2: you look at just how it's being interpreted right here,
Speaker 2: So you have the the EEG with the basically the
Speaker 2: nodes and the wires that are collecting the information. So
Speaker 2: you have the brain data collection, the data preprocessing, the
Speaker 2: feature extraction, and then the data interpretation. So that's how
Speaker 2: they're doing it, the typical workflow of neuromarketing research. And yeah, dude,
Speaker 2: So we can look at some of these other things
Speaker 2: here that float chart. Yeah, it's a deep one. So oh,
Speaker 2: it even pulls PubMed into it. It's crazy, it's crazy.
Speaker 2: It's an actual science literally, But yeah, we're not going
Speaker 2: to read this whole thing, just showing you how PubMed
Speaker 2: and the NIH everybody's in on it. Microsoft, Google, fucking
Speaker 2: everybody's using this to program your mind. And we always
Speaker 2: talk about it like Google is, I believe, and I
Speaker 2: could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I'm right. Is
Speaker 2: the world's largest data collection center. Wouldn't you say so?
Speaker 1: I would? I think that's a pretty fair statement.
Speaker 3: I mean, I know, it's the world's largest Internet search engine, right,
Speaker 3: but that comes with a couple of other subaddendums with it, right, right.
Speaker 2: And also like Google owns YouTube too, doesn't it. Yep,
Speaker 2: So you know you're getting it from two sources just
Speaker 2: with those and you think about all the data that
Speaker 2: is already collected over the past, you know what, twenty
Speaker 2: five years or so that it's been in business. It's like,
Speaker 2: now they can take all of that data. The probably
Speaker 2: the most richest valuable data that you can ever get
Speaker 2: your hands on, I believe, would be Google's and Microsoft.
Speaker 2: You can put Microsoft in that same scenario. You got
Speaker 2: Xbox and everything over there too, right, right, And so yeah,
Speaker 2: you're going to put all that data into practice and
Speaker 2: now you're going to start the neuromarketing ad campaigns. Essentially
Speaker 2: that is and it's it's it's beyond ads, Like, don't
Speaker 2: look at it as just oh, what I said that
Speaker 2: I want soap and now I'm gonna get commercials for Dove. No,
Speaker 2: it's not that simple. I mean, it is that simple,
Speaker 2: but it's a lot more than that. So you know,
Speaker 2: it's it's mental manipulation. This is this is mk ultra
Speaker 2: from a technological standpoint, is essentially what we're talking about.
Speaker 2: So here's another article. This is from Cornell University.
Speaker 1: How about that? Okay?
Speaker 2: It says the smartphone brain Scanner a mobile real time
Speaker 2: neuroimaging system. This was an article written in twenty thirteen. Wow,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, yeah with the yeahs they say.
Speaker 1: Over twelve years ago.
Speaker 2: Combining low cost wireless EEG sensors with smartphones offers novel
Speaker 2: opportunities for mobile brain imaging in every day and in
Speaker 2: every day context. We present a framework for building multi platform,
Speaker 2: portable EEG applications with real time three D source reconstruction.
Speaker 2: The system Smartphone Brain Scanner combines an off the shelf
Speaker 2: neuroheadset or an EEG cap with a smartphone or tablet,
Speaker 2: and as such presents the first fully mobile system for
Speaker 2: real time three D eg imaging. So, yeah, they've been
Speaker 2: talking about it for a little while, they've been putting
Speaker 2: it into use. It's fucking going into your phone, of
Speaker 2: course it is.
Speaker 3: See they're putting it out like it's a positive thing, like, oh, no,
Speaker 3: you want the phone to be able to scan your
Speaker 3: brain because it will be better able to serve you
Speaker 3: and what you need. Can you imagine a world where
Speaker 3: you were having a thought about, oh, I wonder what
Speaker 3: this thing is, You're about to search something, You open
Speaker 3: up Google and it's already there for you.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be so convenient? Oh dude?
Speaker 2: And yes, of course. And that's how they're gonna sell it,
Speaker 2: because this is what an can find right here in
Speaker 2: your brain activity. This is how they're going to sell
Speaker 2: it is that it might be helpful for helpful for
Speaker 2: diagnosing or treating brain tumors, brain damage from a head
Speaker 2: energy injury, brain disease that can have a variety of
Speaker 2: causes known as en seplopathy inflammation of the brain, such
Speaker 2: as herpes encephalitis, herpes of the brain. Never heard of
Speaker 2: that one.
Speaker 1: That sounds god off, holy shit?
Speaker 2: And can you imagine how dirty your mind gotta be
Speaker 2: to get brain herpes?
Speaker 1: Bro, what are you thinking right now? My boy?
Speaker 2: You got you got mind aids. Dude, dude, that isn't
Speaker 2: I think that's pretty incredible.
Speaker 1: That's even a thing. First off?
Speaker 3: Second off, on a separate slash connected topic, Yo, is
Speaker 3: this what happens when like, I know that in the
Speaker 3: Marine Corps we used to use the term skull fucking
Speaker 3: a bit, but like, is this what happens?
Speaker 1: You could get brain herpes?
Speaker 2: I guess so that's that's new to me. Inflammation. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it sounds like herpes to me.
Speaker 1: Good god, Okay, okay wow.
Speaker 3: But also as it's saying, like, look at the positives,
Speaker 3: it'll be able to scan and have early detection of
Speaker 3: this and of this and of this. This sounds Jonathan,
Speaker 3: help me if I'm off base here. But there's currently
Speaker 3: a guy, a African American gentleman, that is trying to
Speaker 3: upload human consciousness into machines. And he's trying to make
Speaker 3: this link a neural link, if you will, and they're
Speaker 3: trying to sell it as for your medical benefit.
Speaker 1: It will be able to detect anything wrong with your body.
Speaker 2: You'll be able to pull up to the hospital and
Speaker 2: they'll already have your entire file ready to.
Speaker 1: Go with one quick scan.
Speaker 3: It's more personalized medicine, to take the guesswork out of
Speaker 3: the medical practice.
Speaker 2: And they made it for you out of the kindness
Speaker 2: of their heart.
Speaker 1: It's for you, the consumer gain, all right.
Speaker 3: Of course, what would they possibly be able to gain
Speaker 3: by being able to basically plug into your brain to
Speaker 3: see essentially everything you've thought and how you responded to
Speaker 3: these thoughts.
Speaker 1: So what could they possibly stand again with that type
Speaker 1: of information?
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, It's what the conspiracy theorists have been saying
Speaker 2: for the longest time. Don't this shit, don't upload yourself,
Speaker 2: don't don't put in a neurallink, don't put in don't
Speaker 2: even wear fucking Apple watches, and honestly stay away from
Speaker 2: your phone as much as humanly possible.
Speaker 1: God, this is crazy. And I didn't know they had
Speaker 1: companies doing this back in five Big Facts.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So also why it's done is to help monitor
Speaker 2: for a stroke or sleep conditions or crutz felt Jacob disease. Jacob,
Speaker 2: who's this crutz felt character that you're aware but fuck him, man,
Speaker 2: It says an EEG also might be used to confirm
Speaker 2: brain death in someone in a coma at continuous EG
Speaker 2: is helpful to find the right level of anesthesia for
Speaker 2: someone in a medically and do his coma. Also good
Speaker 2: for absence, seizure, amnesia, cerebral palsy, and more So. That's
Speaker 2: I'm trying to sell it with the EEG and this
Speaker 2: is just your traditional EEG, but these are the things
Speaker 2: that are already in your phone. Essentially, that's how they're
Speaker 2: monitoring and collecting all of your data, is you know
Speaker 2: by this that is you know, the electroncephalogram. That's a
Speaker 2: test that measures electrical electrical activity in the brain. That's
Speaker 2: what's crazy about it is that they're able to get
Speaker 2: thermal imaging essentially, or they're they're measuring the the the
Speaker 2: electrical output that your brain is giving off, and they're
Speaker 2: pumping ads and information by using the information that they're
Speaker 2: collecting half of you. They're it's essentially it's a tilted table.
Speaker 2: If you're not playing chess like it's it's tilted in
Speaker 2: their favor and you.
Speaker 1: Don't even know it. Have you ever had an EEG
Speaker 1: ran on you. I don't think.
Speaker 2: Actually I think I did because whenever I had to
Speaker 2: you know, the doctor's that I have add you know,
Speaker 2: I was paying attention to that. But but yeah, so
Speaker 2: I had to get one of those brain the EEG
Speaker 2: with all the different little nodes and shit on me
Speaker 2: to qualify to get you know, vive answer.
Speaker 1: At or all, whatever it was.
Speaker 3: So I had one of these ran on me probably
Speaker 3: two or three years ago, and I had that sleep
Speaker 3: study done, and that's when the VA was was trying.
Speaker 3: I was trying to go to see if I can
Speaker 3: get a higher rating for sleep apnea because I was
Speaker 3: snoring like a motherfucker at the time. But then I
Speaker 3: lost a bunch of weight and the snoring stopped, so
Speaker 3: it was you know, that was probably the cause. But
Speaker 3: they did run an EEG and that's when they found that, like,
Speaker 3: when I'm asleep, I'm pretty much brain dead. Aside from
Speaker 3: like the impulse that takes to keep me breathing in
Speaker 3: my heart pumping, dude, my brain is out cold. It's
Speaker 3: amazing downside, I don't dream, but that's neither here nor there.
Speaker 1: But that's the thing.
Speaker 3: These diodes that are hooked up to your brain, they're
Speaker 3: able to take that type of a scan to see
Speaker 3: the activity going on.
Speaker 1: In your brain. Cut too, your phone is doing that
Speaker 1: to you NonStop.
Speaker 3: As you are just in La La land, screaming through screwing,
Speaker 3: scrolling through the YouTube's, scrolling through the tiktoks and whatever else.
Speaker 3: Your phone is consistently doing this to you through retinal
Speaker 3: scanning that you did not give consent to except you
Speaker 3: did when you bought the iPhone and you agreed to
Speaker 3: the terms and conditions on your latest update.
Speaker 2: And in even more more so than just retinal scanning,
Speaker 2: I mean, it's measuring the electrical output of your brain.
Speaker 2: It is monitoring the the your fingers on the screen
Speaker 2: to see how long your finger stayed on a specific
Speaker 2: article or a specific meme. It doesn't matter any fucking
Speaker 2: thing that you're scrolling on. And it wants to know
Speaker 2: how it's going to get your attention and how it's
Speaker 2: how it knows to basically backdoor a way to be
Speaker 2: able to get your attention is by collecting your information
Speaker 2: based on how long you're staring at something or how
Speaker 2: short you're staring at something, along with you know, the
Speaker 2: thermal imaging and staring at your red NA and your
Speaker 2: blank rate and your heart rate. I'm sure as well,
Speaker 2: you know, like every every single bit of data that
Speaker 2: they can that they can get their hands on. This
Speaker 2: is what the the at least the advertising companies are on,
Speaker 2: but also the political campaigns as well, I would say
Speaker 2: even far beyond that. These are just two examples. Geez
Speaker 2: du So yeah, I mean, I mean when we talk
Speaker 2: about like you know, and I've said this before, but
Speaker 2: it's like way back when, whenever they tried to see
Speaker 2: how long a person could stare at a TV without
Speaker 2: slipping into a light trance, and they put the egs
Speaker 2: on all these people and nobody could last longer than
Speaker 2: sixty seconds before slipping into a light trance by while
Speaker 2: staring at a TV. So now you take that information
Speaker 2: and obviously whenever people are on their phones, they're looking
Speaker 2: at it for more than a minute almost every time, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, you open up Instagram, you don't get on
Speaker 2: there just to check something for fifteen seconds. It's like
Speaker 2: going into Walmart. You might go in there for a
Speaker 2: loaf of fucking bread. Next thing, you know, you got
Speaker 2: a buggy full of four hundred dollars worth a shit.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: So you know, we've talked about this before in so
Speaker 3: many words, and we've said that, like, we know they're
Speaker 3: doing these things.
Speaker 1: This was a very interesting.
Speaker 3: Topic, dude, because you broke down the not just the
Speaker 3: theory being proposed, but the like you said, the receipts,
Speaker 3: the backing, not just from the theoretical constructs, but the
Speaker 3: companies acknowledging that they are doing this for political means,
Speaker 3: for advertisement means, and that they've been doing it for
Speaker 3: over twenty years.
Speaker 2: Look, dude, this episode was literally, in the literal sense,
Speaker 2: about opening up your third eye everybody, everybody out there.
Speaker 2: So we hope you enjoyed this information. Do a little
Speaker 2: bit more research, you know, confirm it for yourself, show
Speaker 2: it to your family members, everybody that is wearing an
Speaker 2: Apple watch, fucking burn them or give them to somebody
Speaker 2: that you hate, either one you know, and just don't
Speaker 2: be just another data point. I mean, we're all going
Speaker 2: to be at some point or another. The goal is
Speaker 2: to limit that as much as you possibly can, because ultimately,
Speaker 2: it's it's down to an individual basis as well. Look,
Speaker 2: they can get the mass data, but you know, whenever
Speaker 2: it comes to specific personnel or personal data to you
Speaker 2: that is strictly attached to you, you want that as
Speaker 2: small and limiting as humanly possible. So you know, get
Speaker 2: rid of all your devices. I mean it's hard to
Speaker 2: do that in this day and age, but just be
Speaker 2: aware of how much time you're giving it.
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