WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:02.919 This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI 2 00:00:03.080 --> 00:00:05.839 AM six forty, The Gary and Shannon Show on demand 3 00:00:05.919 --> 00:00:08.599 on the iHeartRadio app. We are broadcasting live from the 4 00:00:08.679 --> 00:00:12.599 DNC in Chicago. Special guest here on stage with us now. 5 00:00:13.039 --> 00:00:16.039 Former Chicago Mayor Lori lfefoot, Now, one of the political 6 00:00:16.039 --> 00:00:17.879 analysts that we see on TV many times. 7 00:00:17.920 --> 00:00:20.519 Thanks for joining us today. It's my pleasure. So you are. 8 00:00:20.440 --> 00:00:23.039 Instrumental in bringing this convention to Chicago. 9 00:00:23.359 --> 00:00:24.280 Yes, you know. 10 00:00:24.320 --> 00:00:27.960 Look, I feel a tremendous sense of pride that the 11 00:00:28.000 --> 00:00:30.600 convention that we work really really hard to win the 12 00:00:30.600 --> 00:00:34.200 bid and then worked hard to get the foundation up 13 00:00:34.200 --> 00:00:36.920 and running is actually now here and that people are 14 00:00:36.920 --> 00:00:39.759 experiencing it. People are happy. I'm talking to people from 15 00:00:39.759 --> 00:00:42.159 all across the country, folks that have been in Chicago 16 00:00:42.240 --> 00:00:44.759 before but maybe not for a while, or have never come. 17 00:00:45.240 --> 00:00:47.399 And I'm pleased to say that the reviews have been 18 00:00:47.439 --> 00:00:52.200 extraordinarily positive. What's happening on the convention floor so far 19 00:00:52.280 --> 00:00:55.320 has been incredibly inspiring, and I think the week is 20 00:00:55.359 --> 00:00:57.759 only going to build and build and build to Vice 21 00:00:57.799 --> 00:01:01.880 President Harris formally accepts thee the nomination in front of 22 00:01:01.920 --> 00:01:03.960 the millions that are going to be watching. 23 00:01:04.079 --> 00:01:05.879 That's going to be quite a show, because last night 24 00:01:06.120 --> 00:01:06.799 was quite a show. 25 00:01:07.159 --> 00:01:08.840 It's quite a show. If it continues to. 26 00:01:08.799 --> 00:01:10.840 Build, like you say, it's going to be quite a 27 00:01:10.840 --> 00:01:11.239 big deal. 28 00:01:11.359 --> 00:01:13.760 I need them to be a little more conscious of time. 29 00:01:13.840 --> 00:01:17.719 Though for somebody in my dotage, staying up till midnight 30 00:01:18.159 --> 00:01:20.439 I was a little challenging, but it was just an 31 00:01:20.480 --> 00:01:22.439 incredibly inspiring night. 32 00:01:23.359 --> 00:01:26.359 You've talked about the importance of toning down the rhetoric 33 00:01:26.760 --> 00:01:29.439 we've gotten out of control in this country, slinging mud. 34 00:01:29.480 --> 00:01:31.319 There wasn't a lot of that last night, which was 35 00:01:31.439 --> 00:01:32.920 refreshing to see. 36 00:01:33.079 --> 00:01:35.879 Well, look, I really think that Vice President Harris has 37 00:01:35.959 --> 00:01:39.280 really set the tone. You know, it would be easy 38 00:01:39.920 --> 00:01:42.599 for her, the former prosecutor. I've seen her make her 39 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:47.159 arguments to give as good as she's getting from the 40 00:01:47.480 --> 00:01:50.680 Donald Trump and the Republican side, but she has I think, 41 00:01:50.840 --> 00:01:54.079 made a conscious decision to take a little higher road. 42 00:01:54.319 --> 00:01:56.239 She's not ignoring some. 43 00:01:56.239 --> 00:01:58.400 Of the craziness that comes out of there, but she's 44 00:01:58.439 --> 00:02:02.799 dismissing it and then projecting her positivity, her vision, and 45 00:02:02.879 --> 00:02:05.280 I think the strategy so far has been working earliantly. 46 00:02:05.480 --> 00:02:06.760 Just to follow up on that. We're going to hear 47 00:02:06.760 --> 00:02:09.439 from Michelle Obama today, and I think it's been talked 48 00:02:09.479 --> 00:02:11.800 about her quote, you know when they go low, we 49 00:02:11.960 --> 00:02:14.240 go high, and we kind of moved away from that 50 00:02:14.319 --> 00:02:16.439 a little bit for some time, and I'm wondering if 51 00:02:16.479 --> 00:02:19.560 that is another theme that we hear today. 52 00:02:19.400 --> 00:02:22.000 Well, I would be very surprised. So she didn't herself 53 00:02:22.039 --> 00:02:26.159 repeat that tonight. I think she and her husband, the 54 00:02:26.199 --> 00:02:29.520 former President, Barack Obama, are going to emphasize the thing 55 00:02:29.560 --> 00:02:31.680 that I think they feel very strongly, which is you've 56 00:02:31.680 --> 00:02:34.199 got to gotta get people hope, You've got to get 57 00:02:34.240 --> 00:02:38.240 people a sense of the possibility. I would expect both 58 00:02:38.280 --> 00:02:41.560 of them to talk about that tonight. But yeah, Michelle Obama, 59 00:02:41.680 --> 00:02:45.360 former first Lady, beloved of course in her hometown. It's 60 00:02:45.360 --> 00:02:47.560 going to be a lot of happy, cheering people when 61 00:02:47.560 --> 00:02:50.680 she takes the stage tonight. But this has got to 62 00:02:50.719 --> 00:02:54.840 be an election about the future, not the past. And 63 00:02:54.879 --> 00:02:58.439 the slogan I think that the Vice President adopted when 64 00:02:58.479 --> 00:03:01.840 she introduced Tim More, her running mate, that we're not 65 00:03:01.879 --> 00:03:03.840 going to go back, We're not looking backwards. 66 00:03:04.000 --> 00:03:06.000 That is her backhanded I. 67 00:03:05.919 --> 00:03:09.759 Think punch at Trump, But I think it's important because 68 00:03:09.759 --> 00:03:11.039 that's what people want to see. 69 00:03:11.360 --> 00:03:14.039 We're talking with Lorie Lightfoot, former mayor of the Great 70 00:03:14.039 --> 00:03:16.120 City of Chicago, and I've never spent a whole lot 71 00:03:16.120 --> 00:03:17.680 of time here, so these last two days have been 72 00:03:17.680 --> 00:03:22.919 really great walking around downtown. The criticism that has been 73 00:03:23.000 --> 00:03:25.960 leveled against Vice President Harris so far has been she's 74 00:03:26.000 --> 00:03:28.680 not sat down for that long form interview. She's not 75 00:03:28.800 --> 00:03:31.159 answered questions specifically about policy. 76 00:03:31.960 --> 00:03:33.719 If you are advising her. 77 00:03:34.280 --> 00:03:36.319 Would you put your foot on the gas for that, 78 00:03:36.360 --> 00:03:39.080 would you say, hey, we need to get at the 79 00:03:39.199 --> 00:03:42.000 very least, we need to stop the criticism about it. 80 00:03:42.400 --> 00:03:44.800 Well, look, I think it's important. I thinkly think the 81 00:03:44.840 --> 00:03:47.759 strategy that she's engaged in is exactly the right one 82 00:03:47.840 --> 00:03:51.360 for her at this moment. She has to reintroduce herself 83 00:03:51.680 --> 00:03:54.439 to the public, and you always want to define yourself, 84 00:03:54.439 --> 00:03:55.280 you always want to. 85 00:03:55.280 --> 00:03:56.360 Create your own narrative. 86 00:03:56.520 --> 00:03:59.199 So I think the strategy is, rather than sitting down 87 00:03:59.240 --> 00:04:01.759 for a long form interview that's going to be parse 88 00:04:01.800 --> 00:04:04.319 twenty ways from Sunday, people would be peeling back the 89 00:04:04.400 --> 00:04:06.599 layers of it. She's saying, you know what, I'm going 90 00:04:06.680 --> 00:04:08.439 to go out. I'm going to talk to directly to 91 00:04:08.479 --> 00:04:10.919 the American public. I'm going to tell them who I am, 92 00:04:11.240 --> 00:04:14.000 what I stand for, and what I want to do 93 00:04:14.080 --> 00:04:14.680 for the future. 94 00:04:14.759 --> 00:04:17.040 Last question, I know you've had some heated exchanges with 95 00:04:17.079 --> 00:04:17.800 Trump in the past. 96 00:04:17.879 --> 00:04:22.360 Yes, Look, you know I've spent a lot of time, 97 00:04:22.480 --> 00:04:25.160 frankly this last couple of weeks thinking a lot about 98 00:04:25.160 --> 00:04:28.920 twenty twenty, which was a very very difficult time for 99 00:04:29.000 --> 00:04:31.199 me personally. I think it was a different time for 100 00:04:31.240 --> 00:04:35.839 our city. The President didn't help, ironically when he would 101 00:04:35.879 --> 00:04:38.040 call me, not that often, but we call me and 102 00:04:38.079 --> 00:04:40.120 talk one on one. He was the nicest guy in 103 00:04:40.160 --> 00:04:43.279 the world, really and very complimentary. But if you match 104 00:04:43.360 --> 00:04:45.600 that up with the rhetoric SS was out there and 105 00:04:45.639 --> 00:04:47.800 how he was, you know, bad, mounting me by name 106 00:04:47.839 --> 00:04:49.560 baths and mounting my city, it's like. 107 00:04:50.079 --> 00:04:51.920 This is schizophrenic and out of both sides of it. 108 00:04:52.160 --> 00:04:54.800 Yeah, but that's him, Yeah, right, that's him. 109 00:04:54.920 --> 00:04:56.759 Well, thank you so much for I know you got 110 00:04:56.759 --> 00:04:58.639 to go, Laurie Lightfoot, Thank pleasure. 111 00:04:59.600 --> 00:05:02.519 All right, So there is more today that's going on. 112 00:05:02.680 --> 00:05:06.639 Yesterday, as we were leaving, we saw, of course, the 113 00:05:06.680 --> 00:05:09.959 protesters that had started up near Union Park, which is 114 00:05:10.000 --> 00:05:12.040 only four or five blocks away from us, and as 115 00:05:12.079 --> 00:05:15.600 we were making our way towards our ride basically get 116 00:05:15.639 --> 00:05:18.040 back to the hotel, we saw the skirmish lines and 117 00:05:18.040 --> 00:05:20.199 we saw some of the protesters while it was still 118 00:05:21.160 --> 00:05:24.199 contained in the park. Then the protesters made their way 119 00:05:24.240 --> 00:05:28.399 down here closer to United Center and were able to 120 00:05:28.399 --> 00:05:31.920 break down a couple of those security barriers that have 121 00:05:32.000 --> 00:05:35.000 been erected around the perimeter here. What's amazing to me 122 00:05:35.199 --> 00:05:37.720 is or not amazing, what I think you have to 123 00:05:37.759 --> 00:05:41.360 remember when you see the images of those people knocking 124 00:05:41.399 --> 00:05:43.000 those barriers. 125 00:05:42.519 --> 00:05:46.040 Down, is they didn't go in because they knew. 126 00:05:45.720 --> 00:05:48.439 That on the other side of that was about seven 127 00:05:48.519 --> 00:05:52.560 thousand of Chicago's finest of Illinois State's finest, of the 128 00:05:52.560 --> 00:05:56.759 secret services, finest of the Homeland Security investigators at finest. 129 00:05:56.399 --> 00:05:58.040 They were all waiting for them. 130 00:05:58.160 --> 00:06:00.680 We just totally hogged LORI light Foot. By the way, 131 00:06:00.680 --> 00:06:02.600 there's like all these other people waiting to interview her, 132 00:06:02.680 --> 00:06:04.519 which at the small window, and I knew it, but 133 00:06:04.560 --> 00:06:07.439 I didn't care, because you know what this show first. 134 00:06:07.720 --> 00:06:10.079 I am this show first. You are not taking note 135 00:06:10.120 --> 00:06:12.639 for an air, not going to help any other shows. 136 00:06:12.759 --> 00:06:15.920 This is this show first. And you know you gotta 137 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:16.839 be cutthroats sometimes. 138 00:06:17.519 --> 00:06:22.879 The protesters yesterday were for the most part smaller than expected. 139 00:06:22.879 --> 00:06:25.800 At least the numbers were smaller than expected. They didn't 140 00:06:25.879 --> 00:06:29.319 do as much damage as was expected. This morning, Governor 141 00:06:29.360 --> 00:06:32.560 Tim Walls, of course, the vice presidential candidate, was interrupted 142 00:06:32.560 --> 00:06:36.279 by some pro Palestinian protesters when he was addressing the 143 00:06:36.600 --> 00:06:41.600 Women's Caucus today. The demonstrators from Code Pink chanted things 144 00:06:41.680 --> 00:06:45.000 like stop killing women in Gaza. They had a banner 145 00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:48.399 that said Kamala, no weapons to Israel and arms embargo. 146 00:06:48.600 --> 00:06:50.279 Now, Tim Walls. 147 00:06:49.959 --> 00:06:52.439 Didn't say a word to the protesters, didn't acknowledge them 148 00:06:52.439 --> 00:06:55.000 as matter of fact, they were simply drowned out by 149 00:06:55.120 --> 00:06:58.160 chance from the crowd of USA USA. They were at 150 00:06:58.560 --> 00:07:01.680 McCormick Place this morning and they were eventually let out 151 00:07:01.720 --> 00:07:02.360 by security. 152 00:07:02.399 --> 00:07:04.720 All right, Coming up next, we will be talking with 153 00:07:04.839 --> 00:07:09.279 Alex Thompson from Axios about Kamala Harrison, this controlled rollout 154 00:07:09.319 --> 00:07:11.399 that we've seen, how they've been able to manage this. 155 00:07:11.839 --> 00:07:14.920 We are live today at United Center in Chicago for 156 00:07:15.079 --> 00:07:17.079 Day two of the Democratic National Convention. 157 00:07:17.240 --> 00:07:20.560 Carl Road, Carl Rode just walked on. It is the 158 00:07:20.600 --> 00:07:21.199 weirdest thing. 159 00:07:21.560 --> 00:07:24.920 They were explaining that when we left yesterday, you know, 160 00:07:24.959 --> 00:07:29.279 we leave here three o'clock Chicago time, and we. 161 00:07:29.319 --> 00:07:31.000 Like I said, we went and got the car, and 162 00:07:31.040 --> 00:07:32.879 the protests were going on just down the street. 163 00:07:33.240 --> 00:07:36.920 That this area right here in front of the Michael 164 00:07:36.959 --> 00:07:39.639 Jordan's statue is where all of the VIPs came in. 165 00:07:40.000 --> 00:07:40.439 Not the v. 166 00:07:40.600 --> 00:07:44.120 VIPs, not the president, vice president, but they're families, some 167 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:45.920 of those people. They were all walking right in front 168 00:07:45.959 --> 00:07:48.000 of us. So it's just been you know, every once 169 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:50.879 in a while, you'll see somebody that you regularly see 170 00:07:50.879 --> 00:07:54.360 on TV and you think, can Bernie Sanders hair really 171 00:07:54.399 --> 00:07:55.199 be that crazy? 172 00:07:55.439 --> 00:07:57.560 And the answer is one thousand percent yes. 173 00:07:57.560 --> 00:07:59.439 And is Lori lightfoot really that small? 174 00:08:00.720 --> 00:08:03.800 Yes, she's shorter than you are, yes, which that takes something. 175 00:08:03.959 --> 00:08:05.439 Okay, I'm just saying. 176 00:08:07.399 --> 00:08:11.680 We want talked about Kamala Harris's controlled strategy, the fact 177 00:08:11.720 --> 00:08:14.600 that she has not sat down for an interview, she 178 00:08:14.600 --> 00:08:18.000 has not taken questions from the press at length, and 179 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:21.199 how they're able to get away with that, how they're 180 00:08:21.240 --> 00:08:26.079 able to just put on this beautifully choreographed movie and 181 00:08:26.279 --> 00:08:29.639 not get an interview down this far along. 182 00:08:30.319 --> 00:08:33.960 Alex Thompson from Axios wrote an article specifically about this 183 00:08:34.519 --> 00:08:39.039 and this maybe unusual way that they're rolling out this campaign. 184 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:40.519 Alex, thanks for joining us today. 185 00:08:41.679 --> 00:08:42.720 Thanks so much for having me. 186 00:08:43.559 --> 00:08:48.799 Hey, this is an interesting aspect because this woman is 187 00:08:48.879 --> 00:08:51.960 running for president, but she has not in the last 188 00:08:51.960 --> 00:08:57.240 several weeks at least since getting the nomination officially sat 189 00:08:57.279 --> 00:09:00.000 down with anyone for any sort of long form interne 190 00:09:00.240 --> 00:09:03.120 and that appears to be the plan, right, that's what 191 00:09:03.159 --> 00:09:03.799 they want to do. 192 00:09:05.600 --> 00:09:08.679 Yeah, I mean, it really is extraordinary that you're going 193 00:09:08.759 --> 00:09:13.840 to have a Democratic nominee who has not gotten any votes, 194 00:09:14.039 --> 00:09:16.000 has not sad for an interview, has not done a 195 00:09:16.000 --> 00:09:19.840 press conference, has not laid out in detail her policy 196 00:09:19.919 --> 00:09:23.080 vision and priorities for her first hundred days and beyond. 197 00:09:23.879 --> 00:09:26.960 But that is the place we are at, just given 198 00:09:26.960 --> 00:09:30.240 the extraordinary circumstances of Joe Biden dropping out and the 199 00:09:30.279 --> 00:09:30.919 fact that. 200 00:09:32.320 --> 00:09:33.679 She has long been even. 201 00:09:33.519 --> 00:09:37.200 Before this, a very cautious politician, and some of her 202 00:09:37.200 --> 00:09:40.679 worst moments as vice president have been in unscripted moments, 203 00:09:40.799 --> 00:09:44.840 unscripted interviews. She has not always been been deft in 204 00:09:45.879 --> 00:09:49.080 those moments, and I think they were clearly trying to 205 00:09:49.159 --> 00:09:53.600 avoid anything that could stop sort of the momentum and 206 00:09:53.639 --> 00:09:57.240 some of the positive media coverage that was coming with her, 207 00:09:57.320 --> 00:09:59.600 and so they didn't see a need to do an. 208 00:09:59.519 --> 00:10:06.360 Interview Alex who is the choreographer of this risk adverse strategy, 209 00:10:07.200 --> 00:10:12.840 who's pulling the strings here? And is there a boot 210 00:10:12.840 --> 00:10:15.399 camp for her behind the scenes where she's learning to 211 00:10:15.440 --> 00:10:16.600 be better off the cuff? 212 00:10:18.399 --> 00:10:19.080 Great question. 213 00:10:19.200 --> 00:10:22.559 So the choreographer here is Kamala Harris herself. I can 214 00:10:22.600 --> 00:10:25.559 tell you, having talked to a lot of her former aids, 215 00:10:25.840 --> 00:10:29.639 that this is a candidate driven in some ways. You know, 216 00:10:30.200 --> 00:10:34.039 it comes from a place of insecurity and frustration when 217 00:10:34.039 --> 00:10:37.440 she when anything goes wrong, and so aids sort of 218 00:10:37.919 --> 00:10:41.159 start learning that they don't really push to put her 219 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:44.320 an unscripted moments unless they feel like they really need to. 220 00:10:44.360 --> 00:10:48.159 But you know this is coming from the top herself. 221 00:10:48.159 --> 00:10:48.320 Now. 222 00:10:48.320 --> 00:10:50.159 In terms of behind the scenes boot camp, I can 223 00:10:50.200 --> 00:10:53.840 tell you that Stephanie Cutter, a former Obama AID who 224 00:10:53.919 --> 00:10:58.200 is also helping produce this convention, has been working behind 225 00:10:58.240 --> 00:11:01.759 the scenes with Kamala Harris and media training and other things. 226 00:11:01.799 --> 00:11:04.200 For the last several months. She has been visiting the 227 00:11:04.240 --> 00:11:07.120 White House and visiting the Vice President to work on 228 00:11:07.279 --> 00:11:11.600 these things to try to improve, you know, her dexterity 229 00:11:11.759 --> 00:11:14.399 in those unscripted moments. But the thing is, we don't 230 00:11:14.440 --> 00:11:17.840 know because the last interview we saw was right after 231 00:11:18.240 --> 00:11:21.679 the disastrous debate in late June, when she talked to 232 00:11:21.720 --> 00:11:24.320 See in MSNBC, and since then we haven't we haven't 233 00:11:24.360 --> 00:11:24.960 really seen her. 234 00:11:27.399 --> 00:11:30.480 It's interesting I was reading your piece in Axios today 235 00:11:30.519 --> 00:11:36.440 and you referred to a plan to ask Kamala Harris 236 00:11:36.480 --> 00:11:39.279 to be the headliner for the Gridiron Dinner, which is 237 00:11:39.360 --> 00:11:45.240 generally a less serious event, but that she resisted. Is 238 00:11:45.240 --> 00:11:48.399 it because she doesn't think that's fun. She doesn't think 239 00:11:48.399 --> 00:11:50.799 that would be beneficial. I mean, why would she not 240 00:11:50.960 --> 00:11:54.120 do that put herself, especially as vice president, kind of 241 00:11:54.200 --> 00:11:58.360 raise you know, raise her own level of appearance. 242 00:11:58.399 --> 00:12:05.080 Perhaps, you know, I think it goes to this very 243 00:12:05.639 --> 00:12:08.399 you know, she does not this this caution that she has, 244 00:12:08.519 --> 00:12:12.080 she does she likes now her defenders would call it 245 00:12:12.120 --> 00:12:16.240 being very steady and very disciplined. But it was not 246 00:12:16.639 --> 00:12:20.120 very fun jobs necessarily be in that office, you know, 247 00:12:20.240 --> 00:12:23.399 doing some comms work, because it was very difficult to 248 00:12:23.440 --> 00:12:26.159 convince her it was worth it and that it was 249 00:12:26.279 --> 00:12:29.600 it was worth to squeeze and you know, I think 250 00:12:29.639 --> 00:12:32.840 that first year as Vice President in particular was really tough. 251 00:12:32.879 --> 00:12:35.120 This invite to the grid Iron Dinner came in early 252 00:12:35.120 --> 00:12:37.360 twenty twenty two, and the thing, the thing that was 253 00:12:37.399 --> 00:12:39.720 like surprising about it is that the White House wanted 254 00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:41.600 her to do it. It wasn't necessarily the grid Iron 255 00:12:41.919 --> 00:12:44.840 was inviting her. The White House wanted her to do it, 256 00:12:45.159 --> 00:12:49.320 and she and she said no. And basically the staff 257 00:12:50.240 --> 00:12:53.320 did not want to, you know, push her to do it, 258 00:12:54.480 --> 00:12:57.360 given that they you know, given that they knew that 259 00:12:57.480 --> 00:13:00.559 it could if things went wrong that or if things 260 00:13:00.559 --> 00:13:03.639 went badly things didn't go off with that hitch, that 261 00:13:03.679 --> 00:13:06.240 she would be frustrated by it. So it creates this 262 00:13:06.360 --> 00:13:12.320 sort of self fulfilling cycle of being choreographed and scripted 263 00:13:12.399 --> 00:13:16.279 because staff don't want anything to go wrong, so they 264 00:13:16.320 --> 00:13:19.919 only do things that are very very tightly controlled. 265 00:13:22.279 --> 00:13:24.639 Well, you know, when you think about presidents, and that's 266 00:13:24.919 --> 00:13:29.240 generally the climate that they operate in is a very 267 00:13:29.360 --> 00:13:34.159 controlled environment in terms of picking and choosing when they speak, 268 00:13:34.200 --> 00:13:37.120 when they address the nation and all of that. So, 269 00:13:37.399 --> 00:13:38.919 I mean, I guess you can get away with it 270 00:13:38.919 --> 00:13:40.320 at least right now. 271 00:13:41.919 --> 00:13:44.240 Yeah, I mean, I think it's very possible that she 272 00:13:45.080 --> 00:13:48.080 goes through election day with very few interviews and very 273 00:13:48.080 --> 00:13:51.559 few unscripted moments. I mean, Joe Biden has done fewer 274 00:13:51.600 --> 00:13:58.120 interviews with the press than basically any president in recent memory, 275 00:13:58.320 --> 00:14:02.519 and so I do think, you know, the thing that's 276 00:14:02.559 --> 00:14:06.279 interesting is that even though the presidency is very highly 277 00:14:07.480 --> 00:14:10.519 you know, stage and choreographed, that you know, she did 278 00:14:10.559 --> 00:14:14.639 stand out amongst aprs I've talked to for being on 279 00:14:15.159 --> 00:14:18.279 certainly the far more cautious end of the spectrum. There 280 00:14:18.279 --> 00:14:23.120 are definitely some politicians that are much looser and are 281 00:14:23.200 --> 00:14:25.840 more willing to you know, take the good with the bad, 282 00:14:26.759 --> 00:14:28.799 you know, including Donald Trump is very is basically on 283 00:14:28.840 --> 00:14:31.240 the opposite end of the spectrum, where in some ways 284 00:14:31.279 --> 00:14:34.399 his lack of discipline can get him in trouble, but 285 00:14:34.519 --> 00:14:37.360 he also is more willing to just sort of let 286 00:14:37.360 --> 00:14:39.120 it fly and move on to the next thing if 287 00:14:39.159 --> 00:14:40.080 things didn't go well. 288 00:14:42.480 --> 00:14:46.080 Alex Thompson from Axios, thanks for your time today. 289 00:14:47.480 --> 00:14:49.000 Thank you so much. It was great to be on. 290 00:14:50.679 --> 00:14:50.720 You. 291 00:14:50.879 --> 00:14:53.159 Bet Alex there, I would talk to him again. 292 00:14:53.759 --> 00:14:56.120 There is a there's an interesting thing that he I 293 00:14:56.159 --> 00:14:58.159 was just thinking about as he was making that last point. 294 00:14:59.279 --> 00:15:01.440 It's we'll come back and do it. How about that. 295 00:15:02.000 --> 00:15:03.240 We don't want to blow over time. 296 00:15:03.360 --> 00:15:07.919 Okay, yeah, live this week in Chicago for the Democratic 297 00:15:08.000 --> 00:15:11.960 National Convention here at United Center. There are other things 298 00:15:11.960 --> 00:15:15.159 going on, other stories that we have been talking about. 299 00:15:15.200 --> 00:15:18.120 For example, the American intelligence agencies now say, in fact 300 00:15:18.120 --> 00:15:21.559 it was Iran that was responsible for hacking into former 301 00:15:21.600 --> 00:15:25.720 President Trump's campaign and trying to breach the Biden Harris campaign. 302 00:15:26.200 --> 00:15:28.320 It was widely expected, not a surprise. 303 00:15:28.519 --> 00:15:31.279 It comes just a couple of days after Roger Stone 304 00:15:31.399 --> 00:15:35.080 revealed that it was his hot mail and Gmail accounts 305 00:15:35.080 --> 00:15:39.519 that had been compromised, allowed some hackers to impersonate him 306 00:15:39.519 --> 00:15:42.600 and get some access to emails of the campaign aids. 307 00:15:43.240 --> 00:15:45.200 And there was a follow up to a story that 308 00:15:45.240 --> 00:15:49.480 we talked about last week out of Galveston, Texas. This 309 00:15:49.679 --> 00:15:54.639 was a jury the parents of a teenage school shooter 310 00:15:54.960 --> 00:15:57.759 were on trial. Then it was a civil trial, and 311 00:15:57.840 --> 00:16:04.600 the parents were Antonius and Rose. They were accused of 312 00:16:04.600 --> 00:16:07.480 being negligent and allowing their son, Demetrius, to get a 313 00:16:07.519 --> 00:16:10.000 weapon from their home and for not warning school officials 314 00:16:10.120 --> 00:16:12.799 or police about the fact that his mental. 315 00:16:12.480 --> 00:16:13.600 State was deteriorating. 316 00:16:13.960 --> 00:16:17.360 A judge, sorry, a jury yesterday found that the parents 317 00:16:18.679 --> 00:16:21.679 were not liable for any part of the violence, and 318 00:16:21.759 --> 00:16:25.679 therefore an ending that that civil suit. It turns out 319 00:16:25.799 --> 00:16:32.600 that the kid, Demetrius the son did, was found I 320 00:16:32.600 --> 00:16:33.600 should say liable. 321 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:35.159 The company that. 322 00:16:35.120 --> 00:16:40.080 Sold him the ammunition, Lucky Gunner, was also liable. So 323 00:16:41.000 --> 00:16:43.360 even though he was too young to buy the ammunition 324 00:16:43.759 --> 00:16:46.440 is part of the reason. And then Lucky Gunner sold 325 00:16:46.440 --> 00:16:49.279 it to him. They were liable for deaths and injuries. 326 00:16:49.679 --> 00:16:53.240 And the families were awarded three hundred and thirty million 327 00:16:53.279 --> 00:16:54.320 dollars in damages. 328 00:16:54.600 --> 00:16:56.639 From what who's going to pay that? 329 00:16:57.639 --> 00:17:00.799 Maybe the gun company has or the company, I don't 330 00:17:00.799 --> 00:17:04.799 know if it's a store specifically. They've got insurance, I suppose, 331 00:17:04.880 --> 00:17:06.599 but you're not going to You're not going to get 332 00:17:06.599 --> 00:17:07.599 any money out of that kid. 333 00:17:07.640 --> 00:17:09.839 He's seventeen, eighteen years old now and in jail. 334 00:17:10.240 --> 00:17:15.480 Remember Hulk Hogan was at the RNC. Yeah, well he's 335 00:17:15.519 --> 00:17:20.359 blaming it on alcohol. He's talking about performing one of 336 00:17:20.359 --> 00:17:25.039 his famous wrestling moves on Kamala Harris. He was at 337 00:17:25.079 --> 00:17:29.119 the Thirsty Cowboy in Medina, Ohio, promoting his new beer. 338 00:17:29.839 --> 00:17:32.559 This happened on Monday night. Apparently he grabs the mic 339 00:17:32.640 --> 00:17:35.599 and starts firing up the crowd, and things got a 340 00:17:35.640 --> 00:17:39.359 little off track. He asked the place you want me 341 00:17:39.440 --> 00:17:42.279 to body slam Kamala, Harris, You want me to drop 342 00:17:42.319 --> 00:17:45.839 the leg on Kamala? And the crowd eats all of 343 00:17:45.839 --> 00:17:46.160 it up. 344 00:17:46.240 --> 00:17:46.839 Of course they do. 345 00:17:47.079 --> 00:17:48.559 Yeah, that's great. 346 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:49.200 I can't do that. 347 00:17:49.279 --> 00:17:52.759 I mean, it's not great. It's where we're at, folks. 348 00:17:52.880 --> 00:17:55.720 The other thing that we've been asking for repeatedly is 349 00:17:56.359 --> 00:17:57.319 just for the asteroid. 350 00:17:58.200 --> 00:18:00.519 Yes, Oh, is there a good asteroid headed here? 351 00:18:00.599 --> 00:18:04.559 News, Well, it's possible, and it's better than that because 352 00:18:04.799 --> 00:18:08.759 whatever objects we're looking at that has been discovered by 353 00:18:09.000 --> 00:18:13.480 civilian astronomers analyzing information from one of the NASA telescopes, 354 00:18:13.759 --> 00:18:16.920 they say, have they have found a unique celestial object 355 00:18:17.400 --> 00:18:21.359 caught hurtling through space at a million miles an hour. 356 00:18:21.480 --> 00:18:24.400 Oh that's fast, and it's massive. 357 00:18:24.920 --> 00:18:29.400 It's approximately twenty seven thousand times the size of Earth. 358 00:18:30.119 --> 00:18:31.039 Oh, that'll wipe us. 359 00:18:31.240 --> 00:18:33.960 So we would be a bug on the windshield or 360 00:18:34.160 --> 00:18:34.960 whatever this thing is. 361 00:18:35.039 --> 00:18:37.160 We wondn't even know, no idea. 362 00:18:37.200 --> 00:18:39.279 That's kind of best case scenario, isn't it. 363 00:18:39.319 --> 00:18:44.559 This new object, they said, is called c wise Cise 364 00:18:44.680 --> 00:18:48.480 j one two four nine not yet identified by NASA experts, 365 00:18:48.759 --> 00:18:50.440 but some of the people who are looking at the 366 00:18:50.519 --> 00:18:54.400 information from NASA telescopes believe that, in fact, it could 367 00:18:54.400 --> 00:18:56.359 be headed through our fetalax. 368 00:18:56.559 --> 00:18:59.160 I have a fun story that's not politics, Okay, tod 369 00:19:00.279 --> 00:19:03.160 I saw this in the Washington Post this morning. They 370 00:19:03.160 --> 00:19:06.160 say it's a new loneliness cure. Remember we've talked about 371 00:19:06.200 --> 00:19:09.039 how dangerous loneliness is, how bad for your health, it is, 372 00:19:09.680 --> 00:19:10.119 all of it. 373 00:19:10.519 --> 00:19:11.240 Well, now there. 374 00:19:11.079 --> 00:19:14.880 Are apps that will match you with strangers for a meal. 375 00:19:15.440 --> 00:19:18.839 Several services are trying to help isolated remote workers and 376 00:19:18.960 --> 00:19:21.359 others find offline friends. 377 00:19:22.720 --> 00:19:25.519 Well, one step to that is to go back to work. 378 00:19:27.160 --> 00:19:34.400 In July. Yeses in July. The dating app Bumble, which 379 00:19:34.440 --> 00:19:38.119 does have modes for networking and friend fighting. Yeah right, 380 00:19:38.319 --> 00:19:39.880 you're just trying to have sex with those people that 381 00:19:39.920 --> 00:19:41.359 you claim you want to be their friend. 382 00:19:41.720 --> 00:19:45.039 Right, Well, sometimes, you know, that's how friendship start. 383 00:19:45.319 --> 00:19:49.359 So it completed its acquisition of Geneva and app designed 384 00:19:49.400 --> 00:19:52.559 to help people make new friends to spend time with offline. 385 00:19:52.599 --> 00:19:55.279 That's how friendships start. Who have you ever had sex 386 00:19:55.319 --> 00:19:57.759 with that then just became your friend? 387 00:19:57.920 --> 00:19:58.960 It goes back to the when. 388 00:19:58.839 --> 00:20:03.480 Harry met Sally, conundrum of can men and women just 389 00:20:03.519 --> 00:20:04.079 be friends? 390 00:20:04.440 --> 00:20:04.960 Can they? 391 00:20:05.079 --> 00:20:05.279 Yes? 392 00:20:05.519 --> 00:20:05.599 Oh? 393 00:20:05.640 --> 00:20:09.319 Okay? 394 00:20:09.359 --> 00:20:12.200 But to my question, have you ever had sex with 395 00:20:12.279 --> 00:20:14.079 someone and then they became your friend? 396 00:20:15.480 --> 00:20:19.279 No? No, I think my wife is friendly. 397 00:20:19.799 --> 00:20:21.359 Yes, but you still have sex with her. 398 00:20:21.920 --> 00:20:22.599 That's a good point. 399 00:20:23.240 --> 00:20:26.880 You can't have continued the sex if you're just friends. 400 00:20:27.240 --> 00:20:27.799 You can't. 401 00:20:29.160 --> 00:20:31.960