Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, you're welcome back. Thank you very much for
Speaker 1: joining me. My name is Deborah Hatswell and you're listening
Speaker 1: to BBI Investigations. The account you will hear tonight is
Speaker 1: the Scottish Borders Werewolf and Sasquatch at sunset today. I'm
Speaker 1: sharing a series of voice messages that are part of
Speaker 1: a conversation that's taken place between myself and now witness
Speaker 1: in the case. I did not need to investigate this
Speaker 1: case as our witnesses researched her own sighting in the
Speaker 1: area where she lives for over twenty years now, and
Speaker 1: she's seen some unusual activity that has taking place along
Speaker 1: the river along with a number of cryptid creatures. Our
Speaker 1: witness's name is Claire, like fitting a name that represents
Speaker 1: the power of the new moon in the old tongue.
Speaker 1: Claire duloom, as it was said, means new energy. And
Speaker 1: as you listen, you'll see just how apt that they miss.
Speaker 1: For Claire, she's deeply connected to the Earth, nature and
Speaker 1: all its cycles. She spends hours on end in a
Speaker 1: beautiful border lands between Scotland and England on the northeast
Speaker 1: coast where the Northumberland Hills met the wildness of the
Speaker 1: Scottish landscape. Claire lives along the River Tweed, a river
Speaker 1: that has witnessed centuries of human history. The evidence garnered
Speaker 1: over centuries proves it is a place of prehistoric settlements,
Speaker 1: ancient battles and worship sites, and its banks hold stories
Speaker 1: and secrets long forgotten. As it winds between the two
Speaker 1: countries in a plethora of picturesque scenery, it's easy to
Speaker 1: see what they call this the home of the giants.
Speaker 1: Claire is a deep interest in nature, but also in astrologer,
Speaker 1: and she has found that there is a correlation between
Speaker 1: the creatures people see and the connection to their burcharts
Speaker 1: and their abilities to see them. It also connects to seasons,
Speaker 1: periods of the moon, phases and important astrological events. And
Speaker 1: she is also a qualified quantum hypnotherapist. Now Claire's not
Speaker 1: looking for antis. Now she's not running in fear. She
Speaker 1: sees the creatures as natural to this universe and part
Speaker 1: of the all one. The only fear she had initially
Speaker 1: was the impact that this would have for her dogs,
Speaker 1: as they were in an unusual position and she had
Speaker 1: no idea what the creature would do. Rather than me
Speaker 1: explain the events. Let's see it from Claire, and she
Speaker 1: recounts her story in her own words about her own experiences,
Speaker 1: thoughts and feelings, and she shares the knowledge she's game
Speaker 1: with us over the years.
Speaker 2: I don't I didn't know who to talk to.
Speaker 3: I've been trying to get hold of somebody in the
Speaker 3: UK who's investigating this stuff for years. I've also been
Speaker 3: privately investigating this for about twenty years. In this area
Speaker 3: where I live, literally a stone's throat from the Scottish border.
Speaker 3: I can walk half an hour and rock twenty minutes.
Speaker 3: I'm in Scotland and I walk my dogs along there
Speaker 3: and have done for years.
Speaker 2: I actually seen sasquatch there.
Speaker 3: First encounter I had was two thousand and nine and
Speaker 3: I was out walking my dogs. I heard a huge
Speaker 3: crash in the woods. As I was walking along the woods.
Speaker 3: I turned round. My dogs started barking and I saw
Speaker 3: this huge, huge thing wards that classic panic me and
Speaker 3: my dogs were going mad. I'm like the fiercest dog
Speaker 3: mum in the world, the most protective dog mum in
Speaker 3: the world. My first thought was big. I didn't even
Speaker 3: get a chance to second glance it, but I just
Speaker 3: want to get my dogs out of the way, so
Speaker 3: they were barking. I didn't want to go into attack
Speaker 3: or doing anything stupid, but I kind of just knew
Speaker 3: in my soul what it was, probably because of the
Speaker 3: work I do. I know that Sasquatch is real. So
Speaker 3: I saw Sasquatch there. He does exist along the twill,
Speaker 3: the tweed and the toil where they meet. It tends
Speaker 3: to be. And one of the things I do find
Speaker 3: a lot in terms of people that I know around
Speaker 3: these parts who have also seen them. When I go
Speaker 3: and look at the location that they give me, it's
Speaker 3: going to be at a crossroads point. It's like where
Speaker 3: rivers meet, where there's a more sort of energetic meeting point,
Speaker 3: you're going to find those. I've also got all the
Speaker 3: lay lines mapped out learn and you can guarantee that's
Speaker 3: whether on the lay line, certainly that one up in Moncton.
Speaker 3: I'm about to go up to Moncton in a couple
Speaker 3: of months with my friends.
Speaker 2: We're going to go and check it out.
Speaker 3: So sasquatch a very very regularly along the tweed at
Speaker 3: those meeting places, which because you constantly see the infamous
Speaker 3: sort of pixelated predator, and you can actually see it
Speaker 3: almost in the full outline at certain times of the evening.
Speaker 3: That's another thing. There's certain times of the evening that
Speaker 3: you're likely to see them usually about it's either season dependent.
Speaker 3: I would say probably in the winter, I've monitored it,
Speaker 3: you'll see them about half two three o'clock. You start
Speaker 3: seeing them sort of move around. In the summer, you've
Speaker 3: got to be there about ten eleven o'clock before you
Speaker 3: get any kind of action. But I'm an hgo I'm
Speaker 3: always out in nature of my dogs, and in the summertime,
Speaker 3: i'm out all hours because of fortunately been up this high.
Speaker 3: It doesn't get dark to or but we get pretty
Speaker 3: much twenty four hours of daylight.
Speaker 2: It's like Alaska up here.
Speaker 3: You've got a lot of sasquatch first off, Second, the
Speaker 3: were wolves.
Speaker 2: It's not dog man. I don't know. It's not a
Speaker 2: dog man. I don't get that vibe.
Speaker 3: I don't get any scary vibes from sasquatch either. Last
Speaker 3: time I had an up closing personal sasquatch encounter was
Speaker 3: the the winter solstice, so around the twentieth twenty first
Speaker 3: of December, which is another The other thing I've also
Speaker 3: found is that you're gonna see these things around certain
Speaker 3: astrological aspects, certain natrological aspects. Also, you're gonna see them
Speaker 3: around a new moon. A new moon is more powerful
Speaker 3: than a full moon for seeing these things. From what
Speaker 3: I from my personal experience. I'm not saying that's the
Speaker 3: way it is. I'm not by any means saying that's
Speaker 3: the way it is. I'm just saying, I'm just letting
Speaker 3: you know what i've you know, research now, the were
Speaker 3: wolves i've seen twice. First off, regularly sheep are found
Speaker 3: mutilated around here. You know what's doing that? Unless it's
Speaker 3: a big cat. Big cats have been seen. I have
Speaker 3: not seen a big cat here personally, But what I
Speaker 3: have seen is a very large black and brown, sort
Speaker 3: of reddish large What I thought at first was a
Speaker 3: dog running up a field literally just where from that area,
Speaker 3: and I had to pull over and stop to see
Speaker 3: what it was because I thought that, I thought, what
Speaker 3: the hell is that? Because the shoulders was the first
Speaker 3: thing that got me, because I thought that chest and shoulders,
Speaker 3: because the way it was running is too wide to
Speaker 3: be a dog. And then as I stopped and pulled
Speaker 3: over because I was driving the car and I saw
Speaker 3: it running up the hill and I thought, there's no
Speaker 3: way that's a dog. That's too and I saw it
Speaker 3: could see more clearly it was running in a gorilla
Speaker 3: type way.
Speaker 2: Okay, so that was my first encounter with this thing.
Speaker 3: And that's literally where I saw that was within a
Speaker 3: couple of literally within a mile of my house.
Speaker 2: So I saw that.
Speaker 3: A couple of months later, I was driving back on
Speaker 3: that exact same way and I see a bipedal creature
Speaker 3: standing in that field with a kind of I want
Speaker 3: to say the head was pretty much like American werewolf
Speaker 3: in London, exactly like American weave London, because I physically
Speaker 3: jumped obviously because I was driving past and I saw it.
Speaker 3: It's sort of like, you know, it sort of shook,
Speaker 3: and all I remember seeing is the teeth.
Speaker 2: I remember seeing it was standing there. It was the
Speaker 2: teeth sort of.
Speaker 3: Not growling or snarling, but just because the teeth were
Speaker 3: naturally a little bit hanging outside of the mouth. It's
Speaker 3: almost like again like the baboon sort of type.
Speaker 2: It's not cute.
Speaker 3: Looking like a sort of dog head, you know, like
Speaker 3: the dog sort of seal shape pad where you can
Speaker 3: sort of it looks cute.
Speaker 2: It's not like that.
Speaker 3: It's more it is more sort of like the snout
Speaker 3: is a little bit more sort of bashed in like
Speaker 3: a baboo.
Speaker 2: And that's what I'm gonna say. Ugly looking thing.
Speaker 3: But it was definitely it was standing in that field
Speaker 3: and I dove past it.
Speaker 2: Now, going back.
Speaker 3: To the work I do with astrology, here's another part
Speaker 3: of the work. I was going to say, the people
Speaker 3: that I know in these parts, who I talk to
Speaker 3: about witnessing these creatures, there is a signature to the
Speaker 3: birth trot I eat. Certain people are going to have
Speaker 3: more of a propensity to have I'm going to say
Speaker 3: it like a relationship with these things than other people,
Speaker 3: because I know you've probably heard it all by now.
Speaker 3: But I don't feel threatened by these things at all.
Speaker 3: And I know they wouldn't hurt me. I know they wouldn't.
Speaker 3: In fact, quite the opposite, quite the opposite. I feel
Speaker 3: like they would actually look after me. Everywhere along here,
Speaker 3: this beautiful, untouched part of the UK that I live in,
Speaker 3: rose and rose and rose and rows and rows of
Speaker 3: hawthorns everywhere. Hawthorns are on the side of the road
Speaker 3: on the side of the river bank. Now that's where
Speaker 3: the wee folk live, the fairies live. Especially on the
Speaker 3: winter solstice, you will hear you go to the right places.
Speaker 3: One time I was out, and if you go camping,
Speaker 3: which isn't too nice in December in Northumberland, but I
Speaker 3: have done it or been it car camping or in
Speaker 3: a van or something like that, you will see and
Speaker 3: hear the fairy folk.
Speaker 2: Every solstice.
Speaker 3: You just see the lights and you just go kind
Speaker 3: of hear and go past like little muffled voices like
Speaker 3: that kind of here that when you go out walking
Speaker 3: at night, if you're out, probably about the time that
Speaker 3: they like to come out, I call it. And a
Speaker 3: lot of people around here I live, it's kind of
Speaker 3: like because it's an untapped area if you can get
Speaker 3: in with the local folk quite open about it, and
Speaker 3: there's like set times of night that belongs to them
Speaker 3: and belongs to us, so again telepathically letting them know
Speaker 3: you're coming through. But when you walk along the riverbanks
Speaker 3: at night's quite common, certainly after sunset, about an hour
Speaker 3: after sunset in the summer, you will hear the fairy
Speaker 3: folk jumping and skipping and kind of whooping and little
Speaker 3: muffled voices in all along those hawthorns. This area is
Speaker 3: just so alive and I obviously like the rest of
Speaker 3: Scotland or a large part of the Highland Scotland though
Speaker 3: because there's no bugger up here at the moment, hopefully
Speaker 3: it stays that way.
Speaker 2: But this is a hot zone.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if you've been up here before, but
Speaker 3: this is a really really like the paranormal activity is
Speaker 3: just off the charts are in this area.
Speaker 2: It's phenomenal.
Speaker 3: So when I first saw the first incident was with sasquatch.
Speaker 3: So that's one I mean, that would be my biggest
Speaker 3: fear for these poor creatures if they were ever disclosed,
Speaker 3: would be the idiots that would go out and do
Speaker 3: this stuff, because these creatures are not going to hurt
Speaker 3: you unless you're on to the teeth. And I've got,
Speaker 3: you know, a pack of xcel bullies or rock Wilers,
Speaker 3: and yeah, they're gonna flip in.
Speaker 2: We'll defend themselves, aren't they poor things? Anyway?
Speaker 3: That side, So the first time I saw sasquatch, I
Speaker 3: was out with my two dogs, my two large dogs,
Speaker 3: and one was a black labrador and he and the
Speaker 3: other one was a Dalmatian, and the dalmationion just started
Speaker 3: going berserk bark, and I looked to my left.
Speaker 2: I was walking down a.
Speaker 3: Dirt track in a very heavily wooded area, so it
Speaker 3: was like a mini not a forest, but it was
Speaker 3: attached to so it was a vast.
Speaker 2: Sort of wooded area.
Speaker 3: I'd say, that's attached to a forest and another forest
Speaker 3: that basically leads all the way down to the river tweed,
Speaker 3: because again it's very vast up here.
Speaker 2: So I turned to.
Speaker 3: My left and I saw, you know, my dogs barking,
Speaker 3: and the other dog started barking, and they were sort
Speaker 3: of jumping up as dogs do when they get really excited,
Speaker 3: as if, oh, holy crap, we've got something that's bigger
Speaker 3: than us type thing. Dogs starts sort of jumping up
Speaker 3: to try and gain height. So I looked to my
Speaker 3: left and I saw this thing shuffling in the woods. Now,
Speaker 3: the first thing that I spotted was like this cone
Speaker 3: shaped head at the top and obviously the size of
Speaker 3: the shoulders, and it was a dark sort of brown
Speaker 3: reddish sort of hint.
Speaker 2: And I just said, right, that's it.
Speaker 3: Me and the door I was like, run, run round, round,
Speaker 3: don't look back, because my only concern was that my
Speaker 3: dogs would get into an argument with this thing and
Speaker 3: they wouldn't win. And so my feeling afterwards was that
Speaker 3: it wasn't harmful.
Speaker 2: I wasn't shaken up.
Speaker 3: I was just more so surprised now from my experiences
Speaker 3: of walking up and down the tweed, which I do
Speaker 3: every single day, and I have done for the last
Speaker 3: fifteen years because I have dogs and it's a beautiful
Speaker 3: place to walk. I rescue dogs, so I've always got
Speaker 3: dogs with me to knowing to being aware of them.
Speaker 3: So I think once your own personal consciousness has expanded
Speaker 3: to that level of being able to see these things,
Speaker 3: or being open to see these things, if you're out
Speaker 3: there at certain times. Like I said before, I'm an
Speaker 3: astrolle I've noticed certain moon phases, certain astrological aspects that happen.
Speaker 3: Astrology plays a role because the planets, whether people choose
Speaker 3: to believe in astrology or not, is one hundred percent accurate.
Speaker 3: They do affect us because the planets of we are
Speaker 3: nothing more than a vibration the planets. Every single planet
Speaker 3: vibrates on a different level when it's in. When the
Speaker 3: planets move into a different sign. We feel that shift,
Speaker 3: and those planets then affect us and what we are
Speaker 3: actually you know, our own levels of consciousness and how
Speaker 3: we are likely to experience things according to our own
Speaker 3: specific natal charts. Usually when cryptids appear, there will be
Speaker 3: usually there will be a certain planetary aspect.
Speaker 2: Involving the planet.
Speaker 3: Neptune is usually the planet that is very very active
Speaker 3: when you see these creatures. And you will also find
Speaker 3: that people who have a lot of Pisces energy like
Speaker 3: self Deborah, or people who are very sort of Neptune dominant,
Speaker 3: are more likely to see these things. And the reason
Speaker 3: for that is when you have a heavy duty amount
Speaker 3: of like Pisces or Neptune or the sign of Sagittaris
Speaker 3: in your natal chart, it kind of gives you the
Speaker 3: ability to see beyond the veil, which is where from
Speaker 3: the line of work I have done with the quantum
Speaker 3: healing hypnosis technique is I have been told time and
Speaker 3: time again by people under hypnosis that these cryptids reside
Speaker 3: on the lower fourth dimension. Now, because we live in
Speaker 3: the third dimension, we're not able to see them that clearly,
Speaker 3: But people who are a little bit more highly tuned
Speaker 3: have done some work to expand their consciousness and have
Speaker 3: the specific like natal placements or a certain sort of
Speaker 3: natal placements in their natal astrological birth chart.
Speaker 2: And the predator.
Speaker 3: Esque pixelation thing that everybody is reported seeing. I have
Speaker 3: actually seen up close and personal. The moon fase was
Speaker 3: a new moon. It was right near the solstice. Usually
Speaker 3: on a new moon you're more likely to see them.
Speaker 3: The actual outline itself is heavily pixelated, but what I
Speaker 3: saw it stepped out in front of me.
Speaker 2: Again, my dogs were with me. When they see them.
Speaker 3: They just kind of sort of look up and stare.
Speaker 3: Certainly when it's like the predator kind of scenario. I
Speaker 3: do not get any bad vibes from these things.
Speaker 2: One of the.
Speaker 3: Reasons why is because of the work I've done. I
Speaker 3: do walk around now sort of in my mind saying,
Speaker 3: not gonna hurt you, guys.
Speaker 2: I'm not here to harm you, I'm not here to
Speaker 2: interfere with you.
Speaker 3: I'm also somebody who like treats out of peanut butter
Speaker 3: and porridge and nuts and things like that for the squirrels,
Speaker 3: So I'm always out sort of handing those out.
Speaker 2: I put sort of rodent vitamins in there.
Speaker 3: So because we have red squirrels here, so I want
Speaker 3: to make sure they're fed and looks after. So I'm
Speaker 3: one of those people that's out doing that a lot.
Speaker 3: So I feel because of that, and I speak to
Speaker 3: these things tell because I know those hellopathetically they kind
Speaker 3: of cut they just sort of look the other way.
Speaker 3: But like I said, one has actually stepped out in
Speaker 3: front of me with the predator a pixelation, and I
Speaker 3: could actually see the outline. It was a huge obviously
Speaker 3: about I would say, about eight foot just the pixelation
Speaker 3: up in front of me, and it just sort of
Speaker 3: moved out of one tree, walked in front of me,
Speaker 3: crossed my path and went to the other side. And
Speaker 3: this was walking down a slope towards the river, a
Speaker 3: quite high sort of slope down towards the river. I
Speaker 3: didn't feel any fear. I didn't feel threatened. I just
Speaker 3: sort of felt it was the energy I received from
Speaker 3: it was you go about your business, from just going
Speaker 3: about mine. There was nothing, nothing in the slightest that
Speaker 3: was very troubling to me.
Speaker 2: And that is something that you see quite regularly.
Speaker 3: If you are in the heavily wooded pots walking along
Speaker 3: the river bank, you will see the you know, the pixelation.
Speaker 3: Sometimes I've seen it sort of. I usually sort of
Speaker 3: see it out the corner of my eye, and it's usually,
Speaker 3: like I say, around a new moon, when the planet
Speaker 3: Neptune is making quite a strong aspect. The planet Neptune
Speaker 3: has been very active. It's always very active whenever you
Speaker 3: see these things. And yeah, so or during sad terrorist
Speaker 3: season or Pisce season, which is as you know, spring
Speaker 3: for Pisces and Sagittarist seasons always you know, November twentieth
Speaker 3: to the twenty first of December, so you will, this
Speaker 3: is really when they're sort of the veil was a
Speaker 3: little bit thinner at that time also, So those have
Speaker 3: been my encounters.
Speaker 2: The other encounter.
Speaker 3: Obviously the wereworth Yeah, I've seen it running up a field.
Speaker 3: I saw what I thought was a large black dog.
Speaker 3: I stopped the car to watch it, and I thought,
Speaker 3: that is no dog. And I thought that is not either,
Speaker 3: and I thought, is it one of the big cats. No,
Speaker 3: big cats do not run with a shoulder span that wide.
Speaker 2: It was running like a gorilla.
Speaker 3: Not so long after that drove past and I saw
Speaker 3: it standing in the field like a bipedal dog. I
Speaker 3: jumped out of my skin because I was driving past it.
Speaker 3: I just remember seeing the feet, the teeth, and a
Speaker 3: baboon type snout, but I remember seeing the lower the
Speaker 3: actual bottom jaw that was quite very toothy sort of
Speaker 3: bone jaw. And it's just you know, so yeah, I mean,
Speaker 3: but as far as the sasquat one hundred percent they
Speaker 3: are towards wondering about, they don't seem to be too
Speaker 3: much of a problem as far as I'm concerned. The
Speaker 3: only thing I've ever seen along there that is not
Speaker 3: nice is I regularly I do see a lot of
Speaker 3: sheep mutilations, and the sheep.
Speaker 2: The way that they are killed.
Speaker 3: As lastly, you know it is you can see it
Speaker 3: hasn't been killed by anything that you can see it's
Speaker 3: been mutilated.
Speaker 2: You can tell it's not a big cat, and tell
Speaker 2: it's not a dog.
Speaker 3: And I know it's graphic, but you know that, I
Speaker 3: think you've heard you speak about this before, Deborah, that
Speaker 3: if it's a dog or a big cat, they'll tend
Speaker 3: to go for the.
Speaker 2: Liver or the you know that part of the animal. First.
Speaker 3: No, you see these sheep sometimes and they're just ripped pieces,
Speaker 3: I think, like a prey animal.
Speaker 2: Is a little bit more strategic.
Speaker 3: A prey animal that we're aware of is a little
Speaker 3: bit more strategic when they kill something.
Speaker 1: I feel that Claire is a noticer of patterns, like myself,
Speaker 1: and it would seem once again, we have the usual
Speaker 1: patterns at play, and I've mentioned them many times before.
Speaker 1: In the fact that Claire is a lader who lives
Speaker 1: amongst nature and has done for decades, she has a
Speaker 1: close affinity to it and with animals. In fact, she
Speaker 1: rescues and heals them, and has done for the majority
Speaker 1: of her life, and like many people before her who
Speaker 1: are exactly the same, it was a simple dog walk
Speaker 1: along the River Tweed in two thousand and nine that
Speaker 1: brought her into contact with the first cryptid creature. As
Speaker 1: Claire walked to dogs, she heard a huge crashing sound
Speaker 1: and both dogs instantly reacted to it, And when she
Speaker 1: looked to her left to see what was worrying the dogs,
Speaker 1: she was confronted with the creature that is said to
Speaker 1: be impossible here on our eye, a creature of great
Speaker 1: size that's hair covered, thickly muscled. It seemed impervious to
Speaker 1: her presence, so much so that she had no fear
Speaker 1: attached to the event. He's worried for her dogs, yeah,
Speaker 1: but not for herself. She left the area with the
Speaker 1: knowledge that you know, she suspected all along this trip
Speaker 1: she was not out here on her own, but like
Speaker 1: so many others in the same situation, that sighting was
Speaker 1: not to be her last. And as she searched for answers,
Speaker 1: she also searched online in the hopes of finding someone
Speaker 1: who would listen to her findings, but that never panned
Speaker 1: out until we met. And we met online to her
Speaker 1: chat and she opened up with her findings. After the
Speaker 1: initial encounter with the creature on the dogwalk, begin to
Speaker 1: notice what many of us would call the predator being
Speaker 1: a being with no real body to speak of, but
Speaker 1: a moving, prismatic creature that he's seen and reported often
Speaker 1: in the UK he encounters with the beings. For Claire,
Speaker 1: never fearful. It's more like, as she accepted the sasquatch
Speaker 1: creature was real, another world began to open up for her,
Speaker 1: like a door into a fairy land of legend.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: After that, she saw them so often she could time
Speaker 1: their presence along the river and also notice a seasonal
Speaker 1: shift in activity, and it was after this that Claire
Speaker 1: saw the werewolf like creature that was moving like a
Speaker 1: gorilla away from her.
Speaker 2: She stopped the car to watch it.
Speaker 1: She thought it was a large, muscular dog at first,
Speaker 1: but its shoulders were far too wide for that. Like
Speaker 1: the shops of Old, this was a creature all of
Speaker 1: its own. And when the couple of weeks as she
Speaker 1: drove down the same road, she saw the same creature,
Speaker 1: and this time he was standing upright and two legs
Speaker 1: like a human being as he watched her drive by.
Speaker 1: He didn't hide from her, and it didn't approach her either.
Speaker 1: I think it was more of a I know that
Speaker 1: you see me and I see you and experience. Claire
Speaker 1: described this being spatial features as baboon like with fang
Speaker 1: teeth and a shorter muzzle than a domestic dog. To her,
Speaker 1: it looked like the creature from the film An American
Speaker 1: Way with in London, rather than an Alsatian or say
Speaker 1: a German shepherd dog would look. Over time, she realized
Speaker 1: that these creatures also have a seasonal and moon pattern correlation,
Speaker 1: as to do the people that see them. If we
Speaker 1: move the words bigfoot sasquatch, dog man, werewolf from the equation.
Speaker 1: What we could be talking about could maybe be a
Speaker 1: paranormal creature, a mystical being as old as time itself.
Speaker 1: Yet we view them with a very modern eye, in
Speaker 1: a very modern knowledge base. I suppose I'm trying to say,
Speaker 1: is are the fay of old the creatures that we
Speaker 1: see now as interchangeal beings? Is it us humans that
Speaker 1: shape their appearance to feit what's acceptable to our in
Speaker 1: our self? Or do they show themselves in different ways
Speaker 1: to different people? Is a shock of old our modern
Speaker 1: day dogma?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: The hairy boggets and woodwalls is now our British bigfoot,
Speaker 1: sometimes called the UK wild man. For me, it seems
Speaker 1: if our history changes, so do the names of the
Speaker 1: beans we encounter, but the description, the habits, and the
Speaker 1: known abilities are exactly the same. For example, in the
Speaker 1: olden times, when things had gone missing from the farms
Speaker 1: and small audiens, we used to blame it on the
Speaker 1: fee to say, cattle field, blankets, straw and children go missing.
Speaker 1: Tails and manes would be platted intricately, sometimes with flowers added,
Speaker 1: and we'd curse the we folk for it. Some old
Speaker 1: folk tales advised leaving the milk and on it a
Speaker 1: plus sake the faith where I've taken reports of British
Speaker 1: bigfoot in barns, even taking sheep of pigs raiding feed bins,
Speaker 1: and in one case, repeated visits by a hairy humanoid
Speaker 1: creature around harvest became the norm over the border in Scotland.
Speaker 1: And there is a lady in a similar situation as
Speaker 1: Claire who's walk the woods of Nann and Colburn forests
Speaker 1: for deck and she's noticed the strangest of things. They
Speaker 1: don't seem to stand out to the visitors in the forest.
Speaker 1: She's seen the same fairy lights as Claire, sometimes called
Speaker 1: ghost lights. You know. They appear at night and in
Speaker 1: the daytime. In one instance, one light crossed the path
Speaker 1: in front of her and she wants to rescue dogs
Speaker 1: in the daytime. And both ladies live on the same coastline.
Speaker 1: On several occasions the dogs have reacted in a way
Speaker 1: that suggests that there was a large predator at the
Speaker 1: site and refuse to carry on a route they normally love.
Speaker 1: She has found day legs hung up in the trees,
Speaker 1: stones and boulders on top of ten foot tree snaps,
Speaker 1: an all manner of strange lights or sounds, glyphs and
Speaker 1: woodland shelters. She's seen the same bulky dark figures that
Speaker 1: the local report are stealing fish from the nets, or
Speaker 1: they take items from the farm bildings, and on one
Speaker 1: instant had half a salmon thrown at a family member.
Speaker 1: His dog reacted to something growling just beyond the cottage
Speaker 1: will and Nat sent the cats scurrying under their beds.
Speaker 1: There have also been many cattle and sheep attacks here
Speaker 1: and since the nineteen eighties that has been blamed on
Speaker 1: large non native cats that have been set free in
Speaker 1: the area. Now, many of these animals found have womb
Speaker 1: patterns that do not fit that of a large cator
Speaker 1: and domestic dog. In some area of Scotland, they have
Speaker 1: been sheep found that have only had their liver taken
Speaker 1: and their fleece is peel from the flesh in an
Speaker 1: intricate way the same way a human would do it,
Speaker 1: but the meat and the fleece are left behind, a
Speaker 1: number of local farmers took to calling it the bone
Speaker 1: crusher after many of their sheep had their spines or
Speaker 1: bones crushed through. I live on the opposite coast as
Speaker 1: both the ladies. I'm in the northwest of England, but
Speaker 1: the same kind of creatures are reported here. They have
Speaker 1: the same strange sheep and cattle pills. Several of the
Speaker 1: kills here looked as if they used had been rammed
Speaker 1: into a stone wall in twenty twenty one, and in
Speaker 1: some cases the spines were actually twisted. One local farmer
Speaker 1: now refuses to put his sheep in the field due
Speaker 1: to this, and as members of a local paranormal team
Speaker 1: seem to trespass on his fields constantly. It disturbs his
Speaker 1: flock at vital time like tupping and landing time, and
Speaker 1: that's had a large effect on his farm. And he's
Speaker 1: not the only one. Several horse owners have reported experiences
Speaker 1: with a creature that they call a winter hill beast
Speaker 1: around their cattles or stables. Three women in a man
Speaker 1: in twenty twelve during the Jubilee beacon Fire was followed
Speaker 1: downhill by something that kept itself within the shadows at
Speaker 1: all times. Their dog reacted to it and it growled loudly.
Speaker 1: It shadowed them down the hill at one point, hurdling
Speaker 1: a stone wall in one leap. Another group of folk
Speaker 1: who took an alternative route down like copies guard were
Speaker 1: also stopped, and that was on the same night. Not
Speaker 1: too long ago, two men who were on the mall
Speaker 1: really late at night walked into the car because of
Speaker 1: his sheep had each rib cage torn apart. I was
Speaker 1: contacted by one of the men's wives the next day,
Speaker 1: and both men were happy to share their testimony as
Speaker 1: to what happened to them that night. The men were
Speaker 1: around three quarters of a mile away from the Chinese Gardens,
Speaker 1: an area where there is a previous sighting of an
Speaker 1: upright humanoid figure known as the bare Man of Ribbington,
Speaker 1: seen by a woman as she crouched for a call
Speaker 1: of nature. Now the men arrived butt out of their
Speaker 1: car to off. Both men had talkees, and as they
Speaker 1: walked they realized that they'd almost stepped into a carcass
Speaker 1: of some kind. Shining their torches onto it, they both
Speaker 1: saw a sheep. It seemed to have been almost pulled
Speaker 1: in half. The carcass was steaming, even with the rain
Speaker 1: and the colne eye, so it was probably seconds before
Speaker 1: that it was killed, and whenever killed, it would not
Speaker 1: be too far away. It was a very fresh kill.
Speaker 1: One man described the carcass as unusual. The head was missing,
Speaker 1: and the rib cage was snapped in two. As they
Speaker 1: were discussing what animal could have made that kill, they
Speaker 1: both heard a rumbling, bassy growling sound. Alarmed by this,
Speaker 1: both men scanned the area around them but their torches,
Speaker 1: looking to see what had growled at them in the night.
Speaker 1: One of the men saw a dark, stocky outline that
Speaker 1: seemed to have reddish eye shine, and he caught that
Speaker 1: in his tarts like the shape dipped quickly out of
Speaker 1: humor was gone. They both left quickly got back into
Speaker 1: the car. Both men were really shaken up were still
Speaker 1: in bewilderment. Even on making it to the car. They
Speaker 1: didn't feel safe. The growls were around him and followed
Speaker 1: and barked the whole way. The younger of the two
Speaker 1: men stated that he fell almost hysterical, and he was
Speaker 1: kind of laughing nervously due to his fear. You know
Speaker 1: that he was feeling. He's not prepared to return up
Speaker 1: that hill at night alone, which he's done many times
Speaker 1: in the past before and never had a problem. He said,
Speaker 1: as far as he was concerned, even if they were
Speaker 1: both armed, it would have been impossible to shoot whateveryone's
Speaker 1: out there with them due to the sheer size of
Speaker 1: one of the dark shapes and the sound of the ground.
Speaker 1: He turned his air rifle around to use it as
Speaker 1: a bat at that point, as he knew shooting it
Speaker 1: would be pointless. The remaining sheep in the field had
Speaker 1: flocked together and looked scared and worried, and they were
Speaker 1: acting really strange. The growling continued all through the event.
Speaker 1: It was a loud, rumbling, growling noid. The younger of
Speaker 1: the two men wondered if this could be paranormal, as
Speaker 1: the ground was so scary, and they both felt watched
Speaker 1: and starked all the way back to the car. It
Speaker 1: was around midnight on a wet night in a desolate place,
Speaker 1: and they saw no humans on the way in or
Speaker 1: out of the area. The older man said, to cover
Speaker 1: his fear, he joked, I think many bigger runs. They
Speaker 1: pulled over at this point, trying to get themselves together.
Speaker 1: They felt helpless, nervous. It was a sickening feeling, almost
Speaker 1: like fighting in the dark. After the event, the men
Speaker 1: tried to find the they heard using Google sounds and
Speaker 1: known animal recordings here in the UK on the phone.
Speaker 1: It did not find a match with anything. The only
Speaker 1: sound that matched was a reported noise of a werewolf
Speaker 1: on a recording on YouTube of the American Wolf in London.
Speaker 1: Both men agreed the sound was the same as they'd
Speaker 1: heard that evening. I feel at this point I should
Speaker 1: point out that it's not just the areas I've mentioned
Speaker 1: here tonight. We've been saying patterns, breaches and sightings. We
Speaker 1: can replicate these cases in all of our counties, all
Speaker 1: across the UK and island, even on our offshore islands.
Speaker 1: There are cases just like this, some known, some forgotten,
Speaker 1: some never told, from a time of different understanding. As
Speaker 1: our forefather has tried to unravel the mystery of Defay
Speaker 1: and all that contains, so do we with our modern
Speaker 1: day creature. We don't understand them. We see them as
Speaker 1: mystical and magical, and they could very well be that
Speaker 1: Mona as an understanding that I don't have, so I'm
Speaker 1: not coming from her perspective. I am hoping that she
Speaker 1: could teach me and make me understand because patterns are
Speaker 1: something that I can work with. But I can think
Speaker 1: of several places off the top of my head where
Speaker 1: we could go and almost read out the same story,
Speaker 1: but just change the name of the witness. The situations
Speaker 1: are similar. The witnesses themselves are similar. They're interested in
Speaker 1: the subjects, you know, all manner of things, many of
Speaker 1: them out walking, hiking, horse riding, as I do often
Speaker 1: when I'm up on winter Hill. I don't ever forget
Speaker 1: the creatures that have been reported there, and people think
Speaker 1: I'm incredibly brave for doing it. But I have my
Speaker 1: husband with me and a dog and a car that
Speaker 1: I can jump in and get away as quickly as
Speaker 1: I want. What about the loan traveler, the wild camper,
Speaker 1: you know, the person out on the whole Lots of
Speaker 1: people want the most fell runners, your manner of leisure.
Speaker 1: Pursuits happen up there, and honestly, in the daytime it
Speaker 1: is now absolutely crammed. If you went to the snapshot,
Speaker 1: you can que an hour to get a coffee. And
Speaker 1: the last guy you lived in that sold it because
Speaker 1: of what he saw on the moor when night packed
Speaker 1: his family up and moved back to Liverpool and lived
Speaker 1: in his daughter's council house. So what every psalm must
Speaker 1: have been bad? I go up there because I watched
Speaker 1: the owls and the bats and the day in a
Speaker 1: baby day and sheep, cows, horses.
Speaker 2: It's it's what I love.
Speaker 1: It's my I don't know my safe place, I suppose,
Speaker 1: but I don't anger around much after dark, and like
Speaker 1: I say, I normally have company with me.
Speaker 2: It's a mystical.
Speaker 1: Place, you know. Nobody knows what white coppice is. It's
Speaker 1: standing stones up there, the lay energy up there strong.
Speaker 1: It's just one of those places, I suppose. And in
Speaker 1: the next few months or so, I'll go out to
Speaker 1: those places and actually recording them and share the sightings
Speaker 1: with you in a smaller formats so they're easier to
Speaker 1: take in. But I really enjoy sharing with you guys tonight.
Speaker 1: Over the past couple of weeks, we've covered some really
Speaker 1: good subjects and it's amazing to see the community growing
Speaker 1: and accepting. I've got more interviews like this to come
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Speaker 1: all farewell the same day, same time next week. Good
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