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<v Speaker 1>Hello, everybody, you're welcome back. Thank you very much for

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<v Speaker 1>joining me. My name is Deborah Hatswell and you're listening

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<v Speaker 1>to BBI Investigations. The account you will hear tonight is

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<v Speaker 1>the Scottish Borders Werewolf and Sasquatch at sunset today. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sharing a series of voice messages that are part of

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<v Speaker 1>a conversation that's taken place between myself and now witness

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<v Speaker 1>in the case. I did not need to investigate this

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<v Speaker 1>case as our witnesses researched her own sighting in the

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<v Speaker 1>area where she lives for over twenty years now, and

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<v Speaker 1>she's seen some unusual activity that has taking place along

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<v Speaker 1>the river along with a number of cryptid creatures. Our

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<v Speaker 1>witness's name is Claire, like fitting a name that represents

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<v Speaker 1>the power of the new moon in the old tongue.

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<v Speaker 1>Claire duloom, as it was said, means new energy. And

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<v Speaker 1>as you listen, you'll see just how apt that they miss.

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<v Speaker 1>For Claire, she's deeply connected to the Earth, nature and

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<v Speaker 1>all its cycles. She spends hours on end in a

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful border lands between Scotland and England on the northeast

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<v Speaker 1>coast where the Northumberland Hills met the wildness of the

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<v Speaker 1>Scottish landscape. Claire lives along the River Tweed, a river

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<v Speaker 1>that has witnessed centuries of human history. The evidence garnered

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<v Speaker 1>over centuries proves it is a place of prehistoric settlements,

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<v Speaker 1>ancient battles and worship sites, and its banks hold stories

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<v Speaker 1>and secrets long forgotten. As it winds between the two

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<v Speaker 1>countries in a plethora of picturesque scenery, it's easy to

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<v Speaker 1>see what they call this the home of the giants.

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<v Speaker 1>Claire is a deep interest in nature, but also in astrologer,

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<v Speaker 1>and she has found that there is a correlation between

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<v Speaker 1>the creatures people see and the connection to their burcharts

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<v Speaker 1>and their abilities to see them. It also connects to seasons,

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<v Speaker 1>periods of the moon, phases and important astrological events. And

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<v Speaker 1>she is also a qualified quantum hypnotherapist. Now Claire's not

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<v Speaker 1>looking for antis. Now she's not running in fear. She

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<v Speaker 1>sees the creatures as natural to this universe and part

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<v Speaker 1>of the all one. The only fear she had initially

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<v Speaker 1>was the impact that this would have for her dogs,

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<v Speaker 1>as they were in an unusual position and she had

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<v Speaker 1>no idea what the creature would do. Rather than me

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<v Speaker 1>explain the events. Let's see it from Claire, and she

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<v Speaker 1>recounts her story in her own words about her own experiences,

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts and feelings, and she shares the knowledge she's game

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<v Speaker 1>with us over the years.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I didn't know who to talk to.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been trying to get hold of somebody in the

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<v Speaker 3>UK who's investigating this stuff for years. I've also been

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<v Speaker 3>privately investigating this for about twenty years. In this area

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<v Speaker 3>where I live, literally a stone's throat from the Scottish border.

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<v Speaker 3>I can walk half an hour and rock twenty minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in Scotland and I walk my dogs along there

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<v Speaker 3>and have done for years.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually seen sasquatch there.

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<v Speaker 3>First encounter I had was two thousand and nine and

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<v Speaker 3>I was out walking my dogs. I heard a huge

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<v Speaker 3>crash in the woods. As I was walking along the woods.

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<v Speaker 3>I turned round. My dogs started barking and I saw

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<v Speaker 3>this huge, huge thing wards that classic panic me and

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<v Speaker 3>my dogs were going mad. I'm like the fiercest dog

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<v Speaker 3>mum in the world, the most protective dog mum in

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<v Speaker 3>the world. My first thought was big. I didn't even

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<v Speaker 3>get a chance to second glance it, but I just

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<v Speaker 3>want to get my dogs out of the way, so

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<v Speaker 3>they were barking. I didn't want to go into attack

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<v Speaker 3>or doing anything stupid, but I kind of just knew

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<v Speaker 3>in my soul what it was, probably because of the

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<v Speaker 3>work I do. I know that Sasquatch is real. So

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<v Speaker 3>I saw Sasquatch there. He does exist along the twill,

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<v Speaker 3>the tweed and the toil where they meet. It tends

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<v Speaker 3>to be. And one of the things I do find

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<v Speaker 3>a lot in terms of people that I know around

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<v Speaker 3>these parts who have also seen them. When I go

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<v Speaker 3>and look at the location that they give me, it's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be at a crossroads point. It's like where

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<v Speaker 3>rivers meet, where there's a more sort of energetic meeting point,

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to find those. I've also got all the

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<v Speaker 3>lay lines mapped out learn and you can guarantee that's

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<v Speaker 3>whether on the lay line, certainly that one up in Moncton.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm about to go up to Moncton in a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of months with my friends.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to go and check it out.

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<v Speaker 3>So sasquatch a very very regularly along the tweed at

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<v Speaker 3>those meeting places, which because you constantly see the infamous

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<v Speaker 3>sort of pixelated predator, and you can actually see it

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<v Speaker 3>almost in the full outline at certain times of the evening.

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<v Speaker 3>That's another thing. There's certain times of the evening that

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<v Speaker 3>you're likely to see them usually about it's either season dependent.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say probably in the winter, I've monitored it,

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<v Speaker 3>you'll see them about half two three o'clock. You start

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<v Speaker 3>seeing them sort of move around. In the summer, you've

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<v Speaker 3>got to be there about ten eleven o'clock before you

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<v Speaker 3>get any kind of action. But I'm an hgo I'm

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<v Speaker 3>always out in nature of my dogs, and in the summertime,

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<v Speaker 3>i'm out all hours because of fortunately been up this high.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't get dark to or but we get pretty

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<v Speaker 3>much twenty four hours of daylight.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like Alaska up here.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got a lot of sasquatch first off, Second, the

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<v Speaker 3>were wolves.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not dog man. I don't know. It's not a

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<v Speaker 2>dog man. I don't get that vibe.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't get any scary vibes from sasquatch either. Last

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<v Speaker 3>time I had an up closing personal sasquatch encounter was

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<v Speaker 3>the the winter solstice, so around the twentieth twenty first

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<v Speaker 3>of December, which is another The other thing I've also

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<v Speaker 3>found is that you're gonna see these things around certain

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<v Speaker 3>astrological aspects, certain natrological aspects. Also, you're gonna see them

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<v Speaker 3>around a new moon. A new moon is more powerful

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<v Speaker 3>than a full moon for seeing these things. From what

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<v Speaker 3>I from my personal experience. I'm not saying that's the

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<v Speaker 3>way it is. I'm not by any means saying that's

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<v Speaker 3>the way it is. I'm just saying, I'm just letting

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<v Speaker 3>you know what i've you know, research now, the were

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<v Speaker 3>wolves i've seen twice. First off, regularly sheep are found

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<v Speaker 3>mutilated around here. You know what's doing that? Unless it's

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<v Speaker 3>a big cat. Big cats have been seen. I have

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<v Speaker 3>not seen a big cat here personally, But what I

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<v Speaker 3>have seen is a very large black and brown, sort

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<v Speaker 3>of reddish large What I thought at first was a

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<v Speaker 3>dog running up a field literally just where from that area,

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<v Speaker 3>and I had to pull over and stop to see

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<v Speaker 3>what it was because I thought that, I thought, what

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<v Speaker 3>the hell is that? Because the shoulders was the first

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<v Speaker 3>thing that got me, because I thought that chest and shoulders,

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<v Speaker 3>because the way it was running is too wide to

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<v Speaker 3>be a dog. And then as I stopped and pulled

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<v Speaker 3>over because I was driving the car and I saw

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<v Speaker 3>it running up the hill and I thought, there's no

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<v Speaker 3>way that's a dog. That's too and I saw it

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<v Speaker 3>could see more clearly it was running in a gorilla

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<v Speaker 3>type way.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so that was my first encounter with this thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's literally where I saw that was within a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of literally within a mile of my house.

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<v Speaker 2>So I saw that.

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<v Speaker 3>A couple of months later, I was driving back on

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<v Speaker 3>that exact same way and I see a bipedal creature

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<v Speaker 3>standing in that field with a kind of I want

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<v Speaker 3>to say the head was pretty much like American werewolf

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<v Speaker 3>in London, exactly like American weave London, because I physically

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<v Speaker 3>jumped obviously because I was driving past and I saw it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's sort of like, you know, it sort of shook,

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<v Speaker 3>and all I remember seeing is the teeth.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember seeing it was standing there. It was the

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<v Speaker 2>teeth sort of.

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<v Speaker 3>Not growling or snarling, but just because the teeth were

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<v Speaker 3>naturally a little bit hanging outside of the mouth. It's

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<v Speaker 3>almost like again like the baboon sort of type.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not cute.

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<v Speaker 3>Looking like a sort of dog head, you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>the dog sort of seal shape pad where you can

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<v Speaker 3>sort of it looks cute.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's more it is more sort of like the snout

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<v Speaker 3>is a little bit more sort of bashed in like

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<v Speaker 3>a baboo.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what I'm gonna say. Ugly looking thing.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was definitely it was standing in that field

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<v Speaker 3>and I dove past it.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, going back.

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<v Speaker 3>To the work I do with astrology, here's another part

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<v Speaker 3>of the work. I was going to say, the people

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<v Speaker 3>that I know in these parts, who I talk to

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<v Speaker 3>about witnessing these creatures, there is a signature to the

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<v Speaker 3>birth trot I eat. Certain people are going to have

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<v Speaker 3>more of a propensity to have I'm going to say

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<v Speaker 3>it like a relationship with these things than other people,

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<v Speaker 3>because I know you've probably heard it all by now.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't feel threatened by these things at all.

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<v Speaker 3>And I know they wouldn't hurt me. I know they wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, quite the opposite, quite the opposite. I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like they would actually look after me. Everywhere along here,

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<v Speaker 3>this beautiful, untouched part of the UK that I live in,

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<v Speaker 3>rose and rose and rose and rows and rows of

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<v Speaker 3>hawthorns everywhere. Hawthorns are on the side of the road

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<v Speaker 3>on the side of the river bank. Now that's where

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<v Speaker 3>the wee folk live, the fairies live. Especially on the

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<v Speaker 3>winter solstice, you will hear you go to the right places.

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<v Speaker 3>One time I was out, and if you go camping,

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<v Speaker 3>which isn't too nice in December in Northumberland, but I

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<v Speaker 3>have done it or been it car camping or in

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<v Speaker 3>a van or something like that, you will see and

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<v Speaker 3>hear the fairy folk.

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<v Speaker 2>Every solstice.

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<v Speaker 3>You just see the lights and you just go kind

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<v Speaker 3>of hear and go past like little muffled voices like

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of here that when you go out walking

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<v Speaker 3>at night, if you're out, probably about the time that

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<v Speaker 3>they like to come out, I call it. And a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people around here I live, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>like because it's an untapped area if you can get

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<v Speaker 3>in with the local folk quite open about it, and

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<v Speaker 3>there's like set times of night that belongs to them

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<v Speaker 3>and belongs to us, so again telepathically letting them know

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<v Speaker 3>you're coming through. But when you walk along the riverbanks

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<v Speaker 3>at night's quite common, certainly after sunset, about an hour

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<v Speaker 3>after sunset in the summer, you will hear the fairy

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<v Speaker 3>folk jumping and skipping and kind of whooping and little

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<v Speaker 3>muffled voices in all along those hawthorns. This area is

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<v Speaker 3>just so alive and I obviously like the rest of

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<v Speaker 3>Scotland or a large part of the Highland Scotland though

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<v Speaker 3>because there's no bugger up here at the moment, hopefully

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<v Speaker 3>it stays that way.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is a hot zone.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure if you've been up here before, but

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<v Speaker 3>this is a really really like the paranormal activity is

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<v Speaker 3>just off the charts are in this area.

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<v Speaker 2>It's phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 3>So when I first saw the first incident was with sasquatch.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's one I mean, that would be my biggest

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<v Speaker 3>fear for these poor creatures if they were ever disclosed,

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<v Speaker 3>would be the idiots that would go out and do

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<v Speaker 3>this stuff, because these creatures are not going to hurt

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<v Speaker 2>We'll defend themselves, aren't they poor things? Anyway?

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<v Speaker 3>That side, So the first time I saw sasquatch, I

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<v Speaker 3>going berserk bark, and I looked to my left.

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<v Speaker 2>So I turned to.

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<v Speaker 3>and the other dog started barking, and they were sort

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<v Speaker 3>of jumping up as dogs do when they get really excited,

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<v Speaker 3>as if, oh, holy crap, we've got something that's bigger

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<v Speaker 3>left and I saw this thing shuffling in the woods. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>the first thing that I spotted was like this cone

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<v Speaker 2>And I just said, right, that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>Me and the door I was like, run, run round, round,

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<v Speaker 3>don't look back, because my only concern was that my

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<v Speaker 3>they wouldn't win. And so my feeling afterwards was that

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<v Speaker 3>it wasn't harmful.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't shaken up.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just more so surprised now from my experiences

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<v Speaker 3>of walking up and down the tweed, which I do

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<v Speaker 3>every single day, and I have done for the last

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen years because I have dogs and it's a beautiful

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<v Speaker 3>So I think once your own personal consciousness has expanded

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<v Speaker 3>to that level of being able to see these things,

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<v Speaker 3>or being open to see these things, if you're out

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<v Speaker 3>there at certain times. Like I said before, I'm an

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<v Speaker 3>astrolle I've noticed certain moon phases, certain astrological aspects that happen.

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<v Speaker 3>Astrology plays a role because the planets, whether people choose

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<v Speaker 3>to believe in astrology or not, is one hundred percent accurate.

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<v Speaker 3>They do affect us because the planets of we are

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<v Speaker 3>nothing more than a vibration the planets. Every single planet

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<v Speaker 3>vibrates on a different level when it's in. When the

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<v Speaker 3>planets move into a different sign. We feel that shift,

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<v Speaker 3>and those planets then affect us and what we are

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<v Speaker 3>actually you know, our own levels of consciousness and how

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<v Speaker 3>we are likely to experience things according to our own

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<v Speaker 3>specific natal charts. Usually when cryptids appear, there will be

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<v Speaker 3>usually there will be a certain planetary aspect.

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<v Speaker 2>Involving the planet.

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<v Speaker 3>Neptune is usually the planet that is very very active

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<v Speaker 3>when you see these creatures. And you will also find

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<v Speaker 3>that people who have a lot of Pisces energy like

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<v Speaker 3>self Deborah, or people who are very sort of Neptune dominant,

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<v Speaker 3>are more likely to see these things. And the reason

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<v Speaker 3>for that is when you have a heavy duty amount

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<v Speaker 3>of like Pisces or Neptune or the sign of Sagittaris

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<v Speaker 3>in your natal chart, it kind of gives you the

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<v Speaker 3>ability to see beyond the veil, which is where from

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<v Speaker 3>the line of work I have done with the quantum

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<v Speaker 3>healing hypnosis technique is I have been told time and

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<v Speaker 3>time again by people under hypnosis that these cryptids reside

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<v Speaker 3>on the lower fourth dimension. Now, because we live in

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<v Speaker 3>the third dimension, we're not able to see them that clearly,

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<v Speaker 3>But people who are a little bit more highly tuned

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<v Speaker 3>have done some work to expand their consciousness and have

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<v Speaker 3>the specific like natal placements or a certain sort of

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<v Speaker 3>natal placements in their natal astrological birth chart.

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<v Speaker 2>And the predator.

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<v Speaker 3>Esque pixelation thing that everybody is reported seeing. I have

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<v Speaker 3>actually seen up close and personal. The moon fase was

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<v Speaker 3>a new moon. It was right near the solstice. Usually

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<v Speaker 3>on a new moon you're more likely to see them.

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<v Speaker 3>The actual outline itself is heavily pixelated, but what I

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<v Speaker 3>saw it stepped out in front of me.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, my dogs were with me. When they see them.

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<v Speaker 3>They just kind of sort of look up and stare.

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<v Speaker 3>Certainly when it's like the predator kind of scenario. I

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<v Speaker 3>do not get any bad vibes from these things.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the.

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<v Speaker 3>Reasons why is because of the work I've done. I

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<v Speaker 3>do walk around now sort of in my mind saying,

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<v Speaker 3>not gonna hurt you, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not here to harm you, I'm not here to

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<v Speaker 2>interfere with you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm also somebody who like treats out of peanut butter

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<v Speaker 3>and porridge and nuts and things like that for the squirrels,

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm always out sort of handing those out.

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<v Speaker 2>I put sort of rodent vitamins in there.

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<v Speaker 3>So because we have red squirrels here, so I want

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<v Speaker 3>to make sure they're fed and looks after. So I'm

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<v Speaker 3>one of those people that's out doing that a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>So I feel because of that, and I speak to

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<v Speaker 3>these things tell because I know those hellopathetically they kind

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<v Speaker 3>of cut they just sort of look the other way.

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<v Speaker 3>But like I said, one has actually stepped out in

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<v Speaker 3>front of me with the predator a pixelation, and I

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<v Speaker 3>could actually see the outline. It was a huge obviously

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<v Speaker 3>about I would say, about eight foot just the pixelation

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<v Speaker 3>up in front of me, and it just sort of

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<v Speaker 3>moved out of one tree, walked in front of me,

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<v Speaker 3>crossed my path and went to the other side. And

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<v Speaker 3>this was walking down a slope towards the river, a

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<v Speaker 3>quite high sort of slope down towards the river. I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't feel any fear. I didn't feel threatened. I just

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<v Speaker 3>sort of felt it was the energy I received from

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<v Speaker 3>it was you go about your business, from just going

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<v Speaker 3>about mine. There was nothing, nothing in the slightest that

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<v Speaker 3>was very troubling to me.

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<v Speaker 2>And that is something that you see quite regularly.

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<v Speaker 3>If you are in the heavily wooded pots walking along

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<v Speaker 3>the river bank, you will see the you know, the pixelation.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes I've seen it sort of. I usually sort of

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<v Speaker 3>see it out the corner of my eye, and it's usually,

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<v Speaker 3>like I say, around a new moon, when the planet

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<v Speaker 3>Neptune is making quite a strong aspect. The planet Neptune

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<v Speaker 3>has been very active. It's always very active whenever you

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<v Speaker 3>see these things. And yeah, so or during sad terrorist

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<v Speaker 3>season or Pisce season, which is as you know, spring

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<v Speaker 3>for Pisces and Sagittarist seasons always you know, November twentieth

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<v Speaker 3>to the twenty first of December, so you will, this

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<v Speaker 3>is really when they're sort of the veil was a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit thinner at that time also, So those have

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<v Speaker 3>been my encounters.

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<v Speaker 2>The other encounter.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously the wereworth Yeah, I've seen it running up a field.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw what I thought was a large black dog.

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<v Speaker 3>I stopped the car to watch it, and I thought,

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<v Speaker 3>that is no dog. And I thought that is not either,

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<v Speaker 3>and I thought, is it one of the big cats. No,

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<v Speaker 3>big cats do not run with a shoulder span that wide.

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<v Speaker 2>It was running like a gorilla.

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<v Speaker 3>Not so long after that drove past and I saw

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<v Speaker 3>it standing in the field like a bipedal dog. I

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<v Speaker 3>jumped out of my skin because I was driving past it.

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<v Speaker 3>I just remember seeing the feet, the teeth, and a

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<v Speaker 3>baboon type snout, but I remember seeing the lower the

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<v Speaker 3>actual bottom jaw that was quite very toothy sort of

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<v Speaker 3>bone jaw. And it's just you know, so yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>but as far as the sasquat one hundred percent they

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<v Speaker 3>are towards wondering about, they don't seem to be too

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<v Speaker 3>much of a problem as far as I'm concerned. The

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<v Speaker 3>only thing I've ever seen along there that is not

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<v Speaker 3>nice is I regularly I do see a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>sheep mutilations, and the sheep.

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<v Speaker 2>The way that they are killed.

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<v Speaker 3>As lastly, you know it is you can see it

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<v Speaker 3>hasn't been killed by anything that you can see it's

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<v Speaker 3>been mutilated.

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<v Speaker 2>You can tell it's not a big cat, and tell

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<v Speaker 2>it's not a dog.

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<v Speaker 3>And I know it's graphic, but you know that, I

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<v Speaker 3>think you've heard you speak about this before, Deborah, that

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<v Speaker 3>if it's a dog or a big cat, they'll tend

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<v Speaker 3>to go for the.

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<v Speaker 2>Liver or the you know that part of the animal. First.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you see these sheep sometimes and they're just ripped pieces,

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<v Speaker 3>I think, like a prey animal.

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<v Speaker 2>Is a little bit more strategic.

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<v Speaker 3>A prey animal that we're aware of is a little

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<v Speaker 1>I feel that Claire is a noticer of patterns, like myself,

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<v Speaker 1>and it would seem once again, we have the usual

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<v Speaker 1>patterns at play, and I've mentioned them many times before.

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<v Speaker 1>In the fact that Claire is a lader who lives

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<v Speaker 1>amongst nature and has done for decades, she has a

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<v Speaker 1>close affinity to it and with animals. In fact, she

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<v Speaker 1>rescues and heals them, and has done for the majority

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<v Speaker 1>of her life, and like many people before her who

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<v Speaker 1>are exactly the same, it was a simple dog walk

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<v Speaker 1>along the River Tweed in two thousand and nine that

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<v Speaker 1>brought her into contact with the first cryptid creature. As

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<v Speaker 1>Claire walked to dogs, she heard a huge crashing sound

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<v Speaker 1>and both dogs instantly reacted to it, And when she

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<v Speaker 1>looked to her left to see what was worrying the dogs,

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<v Speaker 1>she was confronted with the creature that is said to

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<v Speaker 1>be impossible here on our eye, a creature of great

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<v Speaker 1>size that's hair covered, thickly muscled. It seemed impervious to

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<v Speaker 1>her presence, so much so that she had no fear

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<v Speaker 1>attached to the event. He's worried for her dogs, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but not for herself. She left the area with the

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge that you know, she suspected all along this trip

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<v Speaker 1>she was not out here on her own, but like

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<v Speaker 1>so many others in the same situation, that sighting was

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<v Speaker 1>not to be her last. And as she searched for answers,

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<v Speaker 1>she also searched online in the hopes of finding someone

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<v Speaker 1>who would listen to her findings, but that never panned

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<v Speaker 1>out until we met. And we met online to her

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<v Speaker 1>chat and she opened up with her findings. After the

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<v Speaker 1>initial encounter with the creature on the dogwalk, begin to

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<v Speaker 1>notice what many of us would call the predator being

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<v Speaker 1>a being with no real body to speak of, but

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<v Speaker 1>a moving, prismatic creature that he's seen and reported often

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<v Speaker 1>in the UK he encounters with the beings. For Claire,

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<v Speaker 1>never fearful. It's more like, as she accepted the sasquatch

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<v Speaker 1>creature was real, another world began to open up for her,

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<v Speaker 1>like a door into a fairy land of legend.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>After that, she saw them so often she could time

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<v Speaker 1>their presence along the river and also notice a seasonal

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<v Speaker 1>shift in activity, and it was after this that Claire

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<v Speaker 1>saw the werewolf like creature that was moving like a

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<v Speaker 1>gorilla away from her.

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<v Speaker 2>She stopped the car to watch it.

425
00:24:49.319 --> 00:24:51.799
<v Speaker 1>She thought it was a large, muscular dog at first,

426
00:24:52.559 --> 00:24:55.920
<v Speaker 1>but its shoulders were far too wide for that. Like

427
00:24:55.960 --> 00:24:58.359
<v Speaker 1>the shops of Old, this was a creature all of

428
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<v Speaker 1>its own. And when the couple of weeks as she

429
00:25:01.319 --> 00:25:04.599
<v Speaker 1>drove down the same road, she saw the same creature,

430
00:25:05.279 --> 00:25:08.480
<v Speaker 1>and this time he was standing upright and two legs

431
00:25:09.200 --> 00:25:13.240
<v Speaker 1>like a human being as he watched her drive by.

432
00:25:14.759 --> 00:25:18.079
<v Speaker 1>He didn't hide from her, and it didn't approach her either.

433
00:25:19.559 --> 00:25:22.240
<v Speaker 1>I think it was more of a I know that

434
00:25:22.279 --> 00:25:28.400
<v Speaker 1>you see me and I see you and experience. Claire

435
00:25:28.599 --> 00:25:33.119
<v Speaker 1>described this being spatial features as baboon like with fang

436
00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:37.640
<v Speaker 1>teeth and a shorter muzzle than a domestic dog. To her,

437
00:25:38.079 --> 00:25:41.119
<v Speaker 1>it looked like the creature from the film An American

438
00:25:41.160 --> 00:25:45.240
<v Speaker 1>Way with in London, rather than an Alsatian or say

439
00:25:45.279 --> 00:25:49.079
<v Speaker 1>a German shepherd dog would look. Over time, she realized

440
00:25:49.079 --> 00:25:54.200
<v Speaker 1>that these creatures also have a seasonal and moon pattern correlation,

441
00:25:55.079 --> 00:25:59.680
<v Speaker 1>as to do the people that see them. If we

442
00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:04.319
<v Speaker 1>move the words bigfoot sasquatch, dog man, werewolf from the equation.

443
00:26:05.400 --> 00:26:08.680
<v Speaker 1>What we could be talking about could maybe be a

444
00:26:08.759 --> 00:26:13.480
<v Speaker 1>paranormal creature, a mystical being as old as time itself.

445
00:26:14.519 --> 00:26:17.039
<v Speaker 1>Yet we view them with a very modern eye, in

446
00:26:17.079 --> 00:26:21.160
<v Speaker 1>a very modern knowledge base. I suppose I'm trying to say,

447
00:26:21.240 --> 00:26:25.319
<v Speaker 1>is are the fay of old the creatures that we

448
00:26:25.400 --> 00:26:32.160
<v Speaker 1>see now as interchangeal beings? Is it us humans that

449
00:26:32.319 --> 00:26:36.599
<v Speaker 1>shape their appearance to feit what's acceptable to our in

450
00:26:36.640 --> 00:26:40.720
<v Speaker 1>our self? Or do they show themselves in different ways

451
00:26:41.160 --> 00:26:45.640
<v Speaker 1>to different people? Is a shock of old our modern

452
00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:46.319
<v Speaker 1>day dogma?

453
00:26:47.480 --> 00:26:47.599
<v Speaker 2>Now?

454
00:26:47.640 --> 00:26:51.559
<v Speaker 1>The hairy boggets and woodwalls is now our British bigfoot,

455
00:26:52.119 --> 00:26:57.920
<v Speaker 1>sometimes called the UK wild man. For me, it seems

456
00:26:58.440 --> 00:27:02.359
<v Speaker 1>if our history changes, so do the names of the

457
00:27:02.359 --> 00:27:07.359
<v Speaker 1>beans we encounter, but the description, the habits, and the

458
00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:13.240
<v Speaker 1>known abilities are exactly the same. For example, in the

459
00:27:13.279 --> 00:27:16.319
<v Speaker 1>olden times, when things had gone missing from the farms

460
00:27:16.319 --> 00:27:18.920
<v Speaker 1>and small audiens, we used to blame it on the

461
00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:23.920
<v Speaker 1>fee to say, cattle field, blankets, straw and children go missing.

462
00:27:24.720 --> 00:27:29.279
<v Speaker 1>Tails and manes would be platted intricately, sometimes with flowers added,

463
00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:33.039
<v Speaker 1>and we'd curse the we folk for it. Some old

464
00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:35.319
<v Speaker 1>folk tales advised leaving the milk and on it a

465
00:27:35.440 --> 00:27:39.079
<v Speaker 1>plus sake the faith where I've taken reports of British

466
00:27:39.079 --> 00:27:44.359
<v Speaker 1>bigfoot in barns, even taking sheep of pigs raiding feed bins,

467
00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:47.599
<v Speaker 1>and in one case, repeated visits by a hairy humanoid

468
00:27:47.640 --> 00:27:53.599
<v Speaker 1>creature around harvest became the norm over the border in Scotland.

469
00:27:53.839 --> 00:27:56.200
<v Speaker 1>And there is a lady in a similar situation as

470
00:27:56.240 --> 00:27:59.640
<v Speaker 1>Claire who's walk the woods of Nann and Colburn forests

471
00:27:59.640 --> 00:28:04.319
<v Speaker 1>for deck and she's noticed the strangest of things. They

472
00:28:04.640 --> 00:28:07.480
<v Speaker 1>don't seem to stand out to the visitors in the forest.

473
00:28:08.359 --> 00:28:13.279
<v Speaker 1>She's seen the same fairy lights as Claire, sometimes called

474
00:28:13.359 --> 00:28:15.960
<v Speaker 1>ghost lights. You know. They appear at night and in

475
00:28:16.000 --> 00:28:20.119
<v Speaker 1>the daytime. In one instance, one light crossed the path

476
00:28:20.200 --> 00:28:22.920
<v Speaker 1>in front of her and she wants to rescue dogs

477
00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:28.839
<v Speaker 1>in the daytime. And both ladies live on the same coastline.

478
00:28:29.599 --> 00:28:32.920
<v Speaker 1>On several occasions the dogs have reacted in a way

479
00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:35.200
<v Speaker 1>that suggests that there was a large predator at the

480
00:28:35.279 --> 00:28:38.559
<v Speaker 1>site and refuse to carry on a route they normally love.

481
00:28:39.359 --> 00:28:41.799
<v Speaker 1>She has found day legs hung up in the trees,

482
00:28:42.480 --> 00:28:45.440
<v Speaker 1>stones and boulders on top of ten foot tree snaps,

483
00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:49.880
<v Speaker 1>an all manner of strange lights or sounds, glyphs and

484
00:28:49.880 --> 00:28:54.880
<v Speaker 1>woodland shelters. She's seen the same bulky dark figures that

485
00:28:54.960 --> 00:28:58.319
<v Speaker 1>the local report are stealing fish from the nets, or

486
00:28:58.359 --> 00:29:01.519
<v Speaker 1>they take items from the farm bildings, and on one

487
00:29:01.559 --> 00:29:05.759
<v Speaker 1>instant had half a salmon thrown at a family member.

488
00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:09.480
<v Speaker 1>His dog reacted to something growling just beyond the cottage

489
00:29:09.480 --> 00:29:13.720
<v Speaker 1>will and Nat sent the cats scurrying under their beds.

490
00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:17.319
<v Speaker 1>There have also been many cattle and sheep attacks here

491
00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:20.960
<v Speaker 1>and since the nineteen eighties that has been blamed on

492
00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:24.319
<v Speaker 1>large non native cats that have been set free in

493
00:29:24.359 --> 00:29:27.799
<v Speaker 1>the area. Now, many of these animals found have womb

494
00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:30.359
<v Speaker 1>patterns that do not fit that of a large cator

495
00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:33.839
<v Speaker 1>and domestic dog. In some area of Scotland, they have

496
00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:36.960
<v Speaker 1>been sheep found that have only had their liver taken

497
00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:40.240
<v Speaker 1>and their fleece is peel from the flesh in an

498
00:29:40.279 --> 00:29:44.039
<v Speaker 1>intricate way the same way a human would do it,

499
00:29:44.119 --> 00:29:47.720
<v Speaker 1>but the meat and the fleece are left behind, a

500
00:29:47.799 --> 00:29:50.279
<v Speaker 1>number of local farmers took to calling it the bone

501
00:29:50.279 --> 00:29:54.480
<v Speaker 1>crusher after many of their sheep had their spines or

502
00:29:54.599 --> 00:29:59.079
<v Speaker 1>bones crushed through. I live on the opposite coast as

503
00:29:59.079 --> 00:30:02.160
<v Speaker 1>both the ladies. I'm in the northwest of England, but

504
00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:05.119
<v Speaker 1>the same kind of creatures are reported here. They have

505
00:30:05.200 --> 00:30:08.880
<v Speaker 1>the same strange sheep and cattle pills. Several of the

506
00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:11.799
<v Speaker 1>kills here looked as if they used had been rammed

507
00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:15.079
<v Speaker 1>into a stone wall in twenty twenty one, and in

508
00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:20.039
<v Speaker 1>some cases the spines were actually twisted. One local farmer

509
00:30:20.319 --> 00:30:23.079
<v Speaker 1>now refuses to put his sheep in the field due

510
00:30:23.079 --> 00:30:26.640
<v Speaker 1>to this, and as members of a local paranormal team

511
00:30:26.680 --> 00:30:30.400
<v Speaker 1>seem to trespass on his fields constantly. It disturbs his

512
00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:33.960
<v Speaker 1>flock at vital time like tupping and landing time, and

513
00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:37.920
<v Speaker 1>that's had a large effect on his farm. And he's

514
00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:42.119
<v Speaker 1>not the only one. Several horse owners have reported experiences

515
00:30:42.160 --> 00:30:44.440
<v Speaker 1>with a creature that they call a winter hill beast

516
00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:48.559
<v Speaker 1>around their cattles or stables. Three women in a man

517
00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:52.680
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twelve during the Jubilee beacon Fire was followed

518
00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:57.079
<v Speaker 1>downhill by something that kept itself within the shadows at

519
00:30:57.079 --> 00:31:01.839
<v Speaker 1>all times. Their dog reacted to it and it growled loudly.

520
00:31:02.720 --> 00:31:06.160
<v Speaker 1>It shadowed them down the hill at one point, hurdling

521
00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:09.839
<v Speaker 1>a stone wall in one leap. Another group of folk

522
00:31:09.880 --> 00:31:13.440
<v Speaker 1>who took an alternative route down like copies guard were

523
00:31:13.519 --> 00:31:17.319
<v Speaker 1>also stopped, and that was on the same night. Not

524
00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:20.200
<v Speaker 1>too long ago, two men who were on the mall

525
00:31:20.279 --> 00:31:23.400
<v Speaker 1>really late at night walked into the car because of

526
00:31:23.400 --> 00:31:27.759
<v Speaker 1>his sheep had each rib cage torn apart. I was

527
00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:30.880
<v Speaker 1>contacted by one of the men's wives the next day,

528
00:31:31.519 --> 00:31:34.000
<v Speaker 1>and both men were happy to share their testimony as

529
00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:39.279
<v Speaker 1>to what happened to them that night. The men were

530
00:31:39.359 --> 00:31:42.440
<v Speaker 1>around three quarters of a mile away from the Chinese Gardens,

531
00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:46.519
<v Speaker 1>an area where there is a previous sighting of an

532
00:31:46.599 --> 00:31:50.200
<v Speaker 1>upright humanoid figure known as the bare Man of Ribbington,

533
00:31:50.680 --> 00:31:53.559
<v Speaker 1>seen by a woman as she crouched for a call

534
00:31:53.640 --> 00:31:57.119
<v Speaker 1>of nature. Now the men arrived butt out of their

535
00:31:57.160 --> 00:32:00.480
<v Speaker 1>car to off. Both men had talkees, and as they

536
00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:05.240
<v Speaker 1>walked they realized that they'd almost stepped into a carcass

537
00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:08.759
<v Speaker 1>of some kind. Shining their torches onto it, they both

538
00:32:08.799 --> 00:32:11.759
<v Speaker 1>saw a sheep. It seemed to have been almost pulled

539
00:32:11.799 --> 00:32:15.799
<v Speaker 1>in half. The carcass was steaming, even with the rain

540
00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:20.559
<v Speaker 1>and the colne eye, so it was probably seconds before

541
00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:24.799
<v Speaker 1>that it was killed, and whenever killed, it would not

542
00:32:24.920 --> 00:32:28.519
<v Speaker 1>be too far away. It was a very fresh kill.

543
00:32:29.559 --> 00:32:33.640
<v Speaker 1>One man described the carcass as unusual. The head was missing,

544
00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:37.519
<v Speaker 1>and the rib cage was snapped in two. As they

545
00:32:37.559 --> 00:32:41.839
<v Speaker 1>were discussing what animal could have made that kill, they

546
00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:48.880
<v Speaker 1>both heard a rumbling, bassy growling sound. Alarmed by this,

547
00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:52.759
<v Speaker 1>both men scanned the area around them but their torches,

548
00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:55.119
<v Speaker 1>looking to see what had growled at them in the night.

549
00:32:56.079 --> 00:32:59.279
<v Speaker 1>One of the men saw a dark, stocky outline that

550
00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:01.960
<v Speaker 1>seemed to have reddish eye shine, and he caught that

551
00:33:02.039 --> 00:33:05.079
<v Speaker 1>in his tarts like the shape dipped quickly out of

552
00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:09.039
<v Speaker 1>humor was gone. They both left quickly got back into

553
00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:12.559
<v Speaker 1>the car. Both men were really shaken up were still

554
00:33:12.559 --> 00:33:16.160
<v Speaker 1>in bewilderment. Even on making it to the car. They

555
00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:20.640
<v Speaker 1>didn't feel safe. The growls were around him and followed

556
00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:24.119
<v Speaker 1>and barked the whole way. The younger of the two

557
00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:27.960
<v Speaker 1>men stated that he fell almost hysterical, and he was

558
00:33:28.039 --> 00:33:31.319
<v Speaker 1>kind of laughing nervously due to his fear. You know

559
00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:35.079
<v Speaker 1>that he was feeling. He's not prepared to return up

560
00:33:35.119 --> 00:33:38.400
<v Speaker 1>that hill at night alone, which he's done many times

561
00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:41.119
<v Speaker 1>in the past before and never had a problem. He said,

562
00:33:41.160 --> 00:33:43.680
<v Speaker 1>as far as he was concerned, even if they were

563
00:33:43.720 --> 00:33:47.640
<v Speaker 1>both armed, it would have been impossible to shoot whateveryone's

564
00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:51.200
<v Speaker 1>out there with them due to the sheer size of

565
00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:55.039
<v Speaker 1>one of the dark shapes and the sound of the ground.

566
00:33:55.799 --> 00:33:57.720
<v Speaker 1>He turned his air rifle around to use it as

567
00:33:57.720 --> 00:34:00.640
<v Speaker 1>a bat at that point, as he knew shooting it

568
00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:04.160
<v Speaker 1>would be pointless. The remaining sheep in the field had

569
00:34:04.200 --> 00:34:07.319
<v Speaker 1>flocked together and looked scared and worried, and they were

570
00:34:07.359 --> 00:34:11.760
<v Speaker 1>acting really strange. The growling continued all through the event.

571
00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:16.559
<v Speaker 1>It was a loud, rumbling, growling noid. The younger of

572
00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:19.920
<v Speaker 1>the two men wondered if this could be paranormal, as

573
00:34:19.960 --> 00:34:23.239
<v Speaker 1>the ground was so scary, and they both felt watched

574
00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:29.639
<v Speaker 1>and starked all the way back to the car. It

575
00:34:29.719 --> 00:34:33.480
<v Speaker 1>was around midnight on a wet night in a desolate place,

576
00:34:34.039 --> 00:34:36.320
<v Speaker 1>and they saw no humans on the way in or

577
00:34:36.360 --> 00:34:39.679
<v Speaker 1>out of the area. The older man said, to cover

578
00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:43.920
<v Speaker 1>his fear, he joked, I think many bigger runs. They

579
00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:46.760
<v Speaker 1>pulled over at this point, trying to get themselves together.

580
00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:52.880
<v Speaker 1>They felt helpless, nervous. It was a sickening feeling, almost

581
00:34:53.079 --> 00:34:58.519
<v Speaker 1>like fighting in the dark. After the event, the men

582
00:34:58.679 --> 00:35:02.519
<v Speaker 1>tried to find the they heard using Google sounds and

583
00:35:02.760 --> 00:35:05.719
<v Speaker 1>known animal recordings here in the UK on the phone.

584
00:35:06.559 --> 00:35:10.079
<v Speaker 1>It did not find a match with anything. The only

585
00:35:10.119 --> 00:35:14.440
<v Speaker 1>sound that matched was a reported noise of a werewolf

586
00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:18.840
<v Speaker 1>on a recording on YouTube of the American Wolf in London.

587
00:35:19.960 --> 00:35:23.079
<v Speaker 1>Both men agreed the sound was the same as they'd

588
00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:27.000
<v Speaker 1>heard that evening. I feel at this point I should

589
00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:29.679
<v Speaker 1>point out that it's not just the areas I've mentioned

590
00:35:29.679 --> 00:35:33.559
<v Speaker 1>here tonight. We've been saying patterns, breaches and sightings. We

591
00:35:33.639 --> 00:35:37.559
<v Speaker 1>can replicate these cases in all of our counties, all

592
00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:41.440
<v Speaker 1>across the UK and island, even on our offshore islands.

593
00:35:41.679 --> 00:35:46.559
<v Speaker 1>There are cases just like this, some known, some forgotten,

594
00:35:47.079 --> 00:35:52.159
<v Speaker 1>some never told, from a time of different understanding. As

595
00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:54.800
<v Speaker 1>our forefather has tried to unravel the mystery of Defay

596
00:35:55.320 --> 00:35:59.199
<v Speaker 1>and all that contains, so do we with our modern

597
00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:03.840
<v Speaker 1>day creature. We don't understand them. We see them as

598
00:36:03.920 --> 00:36:07.239
<v Speaker 1>mystical and magical, and they could very well be that

599
00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:12.079
<v Speaker 1>Mona as an understanding that I don't have, so I'm

600
00:36:12.119 --> 00:36:15.559
<v Speaker 1>not coming from her perspective. I am hoping that she

601
00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:19.400
<v Speaker 1>could teach me and make me understand because patterns are

602
00:36:19.440 --> 00:36:22.239
<v Speaker 1>something that I can work with. But I can think

603
00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:25.559
<v Speaker 1>of several places off the top of my head where

604
00:36:25.599 --> 00:36:30.119
<v Speaker 1>we could go and almost read out the same story,

605
00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:34.679
<v Speaker 1>but just change the name of the witness. The situations

606
00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:39.280
<v Speaker 1>are similar. The witnesses themselves are similar. They're interested in

607
00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:42.280
<v Speaker 1>the subjects, you know, all manner of things, many of

608
00:36:42.320 --> 00:36:47.079
<v Speaker 1>them out walking, hiking, horse riding, as I do often

609
00:36:48.159 --> 00:36:51.519
<v Speaker 1>when I'm up on winter Hill. I don't ever forget

610
00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:55.800
<v Speaker 1>the creatures that have been reported there, and people think

611
00:36:55.840 --> 00:36:58.559
<v Speaker 1>I'm incredibly brave for doing it. But I have my

612
00:36:58.639 --> 00:37:01.320
<v Speaker 1>husband with me and a dog and a car that

613
00:37:01.360 --> 00:37:04.320
<v Speaker 1>I can jump in and get away as quickly as

614
00:37:04.360 --> 00:37:08.199
<v Speaker 1>I want. What about the loan traveler, the wild camper,

615
00:37:08.920 --> 00:37:11.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, the person out on the whole Lots of

616
00:37:11.880 --> 00:37:15.960
<v Speaker 1>people want the most fell runners, your manner of leisure.

617
00:37:16.039 --> 00:37:19.760
<v Speaker 1>Pursuits happen up there, and honestly, in the daytime it

618
00:37:19.840 --> 00:37:22.760
<v Speaker 1>is now absolutely crammed. If you went to the snapshot,

619
00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:25.480
<v Speaker 1>you can que an hour to get a coffee. And

620
00:37:25.519 --> 00:37:27.960
<v Speaker 1>the last guy you lived in that sold it because

621
00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:30.199
<v Speaker 1>of what he saw on the moor when night packed

622
00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:32.480
<v Speaker 1>his family up and moved back to Liverpool and lived

623
00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:35.199
<v Speaker 1>in his daughter's council house. So what every psalm must

624
00:37:35.199 --> 00:37:38.280
<v Speaker 1>have been bad? I go up there because I watched

625
00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:41.079
<v Speaker 1>the owls and the bats and the day in a

626
00:37:41.159 --> 00:37:43.599
<v Speaker 1>baby day and sheep, cows, horses.

627
00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:44.800
<v Speaker 2>It's it's what I love.

628
00:37:44.920 --> 00:37:48.920
<v Speaker 1>It's my I don't know my safe place, I suppose,

629
00:37:50.039 --> 00:37:53.000
<v Speaker 1>but I don't anger around much after dark, and like

630
00:37:53.079 --> 00:37:54.880
<v Speaker 1>I say, I normally have company with me.

631
00:37:55.639 --> 00:37:56.880
<v Speaker 2>It's a mystical.

632
00:37:56.480 --> 00:37:59.599
<v Speaker 1>Place, you know. Nobody knows what white coppice is. It's

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<v Speaker 1>standing stones up there, the lay energy up there strong.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just one of those places, I suppose. And in

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<v Speaker 1>the next few months or so, I'll go out to

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<v Speaker 1>those places and actually recording them and share the sightings

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<v Speaker 1>with you in a smaller formats so they're easier to

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<v Speaker 1>take in. But I really enjoy sharing with you guys tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the past couple of weeks, we've covered some really

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<v Speaker 1>good subjects and it's amazing to see the community growing

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<v Speaker 1>and accepting. I've got more interviews like this to come

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<v Speaker 1>that you can listen to, but please, it would be

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<v Speaker 1>really helpful if you could give us a like. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're not a subscriber, subscribe. A lot of my listeners

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<v Speaker 1>are not subscribed to me, and we have started a

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok channel and the description below has a link to

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<v Speaker 1>that TikTok channel where I'll be sharing witness reports, either

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<v Speaker 1>me in the area giving you the story, or the

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<v Speaker 1>witness themselves speaking about the event. I'm sure you'll enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>joy that. So until next time, I will bid you

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<v Speaker 1>all farewell the same day, same time next week. Good

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<v Speaker 1>Night everyone, m.

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