Speaker 1: It's nice with Dan Ray Undells Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2: All right, we are talking about a piece in the
Speaker 2: Boston Globe today which is extraordinary, a great piece of journalism,
Speaker 2: number one, number one, number two. It is a piece
Speaker 2: of journalism that you might not expect from the Boston
Speaker 2: Globe because it calls to task the Healthy administration. And
Speaker 2: for those of you who live in Boston, or for
Speaker 2: those of you who live in New England, you understand this.
Speaker 2: But this is a newspaper which is primarily very friendly
Speaker 2: to Democratic incumbents and even Democratic candidates. And I say
Speaker 2: hats off to the Boston Globe for basically saying that
Speaker 2: this administration, the Healthy administration, has not been forthcoming, has
Speaker 2: not been transparent, has held up information that the public
Speaker 2: should have about the migrant crisis here in Massachusetts, about
Speaker 2: where they are being housed, much money is being spent.
Speaker 2: Information can be released without putting anyone in danger. I
Speaker 2: guarantee you that people in communities like Rockland and communities
Speaker 2: like Taunting, where there are in Norfolk, for example, where
Speaker 2: there are shelters, people know where those shelters are. In
Speaker 2: those shelters, they need to have adequate security and protection
Speaker 2: and no one is suggesting that those individuals who are
Speaker 2: taking advantage of that generosity should be in any way
Speaker 2: harassed or bothered. However, the people who are paying for
Speaker 2: that generosity, taxpayers in Massachusetts, have a right to know
Speaker 2: how the money's being spent, in what way it's being spent,
Speaker 2: who it's being spent on, who's benefiting it from it,
Speaker 2: Because the people who are benefiting it from it beyond
Speaker 2: the migrants are the owners of the hotels, either individuals
Speaker 2: or corporations, the owners of the taxi cab companies who
Speaker 2: are benefiting for the no bid contracts, the owners of
Speaker 2: the restaurants we're providing food, the owners of the laundry services.
Speaker 2: That's what we're talking about. Okay, it's as simple as that.
Speaker 2: Hats off to the Globe, Hats off to Stephanie Ebert,
Speaker 2: or Ebert and Dedre Fernandez, the two writers on the
Speaker 2: Globe staff who wrote this piece in the Globe today.
Speaker 2: I can be critical of the Globe, as you know
Speaker 2: I can be, but at the same time, in fairness
Speaker 2: and in the spirit of honesty, you got to take
Speaker 2: your hats off to them. We're going to get back
Speaker 2: to the calls we now have Pauline who has joined us,
Speaker 2: and I'm sure she is off the speakerphone. Pauline, welcome back,
Speaker 2: Good evening.
Speaker 3: Dan, thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 2: You are more than welcome. Thank you.
Speaker 3: This is what I want to share, Pauline. I don't think.
Speaker 2: Pauline, I'm sorry I missed what you said. There for
Speaker 2: a second, slow down, did you say you've gotten can?
Speaker 3: I can barely hear you up, very hard of hearing,
Speaker 3: so I'm sorry I don't hear you. I want to
Speaker 3: share with you in irony that you might not know about.
Speaker 3: Has a motel which is housed by migrants. It was
Speaker 3: one of the first residents anywhere. It's probably been going
Speaker 3: on for over a year. But earlier this evening. In
Speaker 3: the last two days, you've talked about Nashova Valley Medical Center,
Speaker 3: which is also an air The governor is paying for
Speaker 3: the hotels the residents in the motel, but can't come
Speaker 3: up with the same amount of money to save our hospital.
Speaker 3: And I think that's an important irony that I would
Speaker 3: like more coverage about.
Speaker 2: I agree with you. I hope you can hear me.
Speaker 2: I agree with you. It is ironic that the Nashova
Speaker 2: Valley Medical Center is likely to be closed by the
Speaker 2: end of the month, while millions of dollars are probably
Speaker 2: being spent at the hotel and air to house people.
Speaker 2: I couldn't agree with you more and I'm so glad
Speaker 2: you called. Is this your first time calling?
Speaker 3: It's the first time I've called you. I've talked to
Speaker 3: your predecessors of things I thought I would share because
Speaker 3: I think you are. The three first time callers were
Speaker 3: all man, and I thought you needed a female in there.
Speaker 2: Well, I must tell you the four callers before you
Speaker 2: were named. I lean from wal Dam, I leaned from
Speaker 2: how Pauline, yourself and Kathy, and now you're coming back.
Speaker 2: So we're running a streak here of four female callers,
Speaker 2: and we had we have a very good share of
Speaker 2: females who call nightside. We get about thirty five percent
Speaker 2: of our callers are female. I wish it was fifty
Speaker 2: to fifty. But I think a lot of women callers,
Speaker 2: for some reason, aren't as anxious to talk about politics
Speaker 2: as guys are. It's like guys at the bar. They're
Speaker 2: always ready to jump in and talk about politics or sports,
Speaker 2: and women are a little more refined. In many respects
Speaker 2: and even I would say more intell than a lot
Speaker 2: of men. But I want I encourage people of all backgrounds,
Speaker 2: of all you know, all types of backgrounds to participate
Speaker 2: in the call.
Speaker 3: I certainly appreciate the compliment for our women out here.
Speaker 3: We do listen to you all the time. I'm sure
Speaker 3: a very good friend of mine has been in touch
Speaker 3: with your producer about the Nashoba Valley Medical Center issue
Speaker 3: several times. Yes, but I think if you could have
Speaker 3: lightning look into the motel thing and link them up,
Speaker 3: that would make for a most interesting discussion.
Speaker 2: Well, I agree with you, and I'm glad we've opened
Speaker 2: it up. And I hope there are more people who
Speaker 2: are up in your neck of the woods right now,
Speaker 2: up in the air Orange, you know, Fitchburg area, Lemonster area.
Speaker 2: That affects more than people just from air, but all
Speaker 2: those surrounding communities up there, and I hope they will
Speaker 2: call in and support what you're saying, because you're right,
Speaker 2: it is it's it's almost well, it is sad. It's
Speaker 2: almost tragic that money that could be used could have
Speaker 2: been used to save that medical center. And the Connie
Speaker 2: Hospital by the way in Boston has been spent on
Speaker 2: people who we have encouraged to come here and we
Speaker 2: didn't have the wherewithal to take care of them. We're
Speaker 2: now evicting people. So the Healey administration has upset people
Speaker 2: like yourself by inviting people to come here, and now
Speaker 2: people who are huge advocates for the migrants are upset
Speaker 2: with the Healthy administration because they're starting to evict these
Speaker 2: poor people. I mean, it's like inviting someone to come for.
Speaker 3: Any will be transporting injuries or necessary services for anyone
Speaker 3: living at the motel two far away hospitals, making those
Speaker 3: ambulances not available for the taxpayers of air. It's such
Speaker 3: a quagmire, it really is. I don't know who let
Speaker 3: this happen, but it needs to be addressed.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you who let it happen.
Speaker 3: Dement of public health at Devon's. Hopefully there will be
Speaker 3: some resolution. They met with the Carnie folks the other
Speaker 3: night and it didn't go well. But I think we
Speaker 3: will have a different representation tomorrow.
Speaker 2: I hope you do. But I will tell you who.
Speaker 2: I hope you can hear me. I will tell you
Speaker 2: who let it happen. The leadership, the political leadership on
Speaker 2: Beacon Hill, a Democratic governor, a Democratic Senate president, and
Speaker 2: a Democratic House speaker. They should have amended that law
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago and should have should have
Speaker 2: been small enough to say, look, eventually, this wave of
Speaker 2: migrants is going to come to Massachusetts and it's going
Speaker 2: to adversely affect our citizens. Can we provide some help
Speaker 2: for individuals to find their way here? Maybe? Maybe, but
Speaker 2: they're not going to be given the priority, and they're
Speaker 2: not going to be living in hotels that we're paying
Speaker 2: three hundred or three hundred and fifty dollars a night
Speaker 2: for or forever, simple as that. I hope, Pauline, you
Speaker 2: continue to call the program, and I hope you tell
Speaker 2: your friends about Night Side. I have spent three nights
Speaker 2: this week talking about the Stewart crisis. I'm happy I
Speaker 2: have done that, and I'm happy that you have linked
Speaker 2: the crisis as it impacts air on the Nishoba Valley
Speaker 2: Medical Center with what we're talking about this hour. Thank
Speaker 2: you so much for calling.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Dan, appreciate your your time.
Speaker 2: You bet youa we'll talk again.
Speaker 4: Call again.
Speaker 2: Thanks very much. We'll take a break. There's one line
Speaker 2: at six one seven two five, four, ten thirty, and
Speaker 2: there are two lines at six one seven, nine, three one,
Speaker 2: ten thirty. I would like to see these phone lines
Speaker 2: just lit up. It's easy to get in right now.
Speaker 2: But this is an important subject. And please please realize
Speaker 2: that the Globe has done a story today that involved
Speaker 2: real journalism, real journalism, and I commend them for it.
Speaker 2: And I hope you'll join me, whether you're a Globe
Speaker 2: subscribe are not. The fact of the matter is this
Speaker 2: is great journalism. It is it was necessary, it's it
Speaker 2: is something that I am very happy to see and
Speaker 2: pleasantly surprised by. And I suspect that in the Governor's
Speaker 2: office tonight they are not very happy realizing we're talking
Speaker 2: about this, and that the Globe has informed their readers
Speaker 2: of this. A lot of the readers on the Globe,
Speaker 2: some of them probably going to be upset with the Globe.
Speaker 2: But that's fine. That's what happens when you're a real journalist.
Speaker 2: We'll be back on Night's Side. Got some lines open,
Speaker 2: Feel free, We're coming back right after this.
Speaker 1: Now, back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: We just had two lines drop off. I don't understand
Speaker 2: why people seem to be so impatient. I'm trying to
Speaker 2: give people an opportunity to express themselves, but some of
Speaker 2: you who are on the line have seemed to drop off. Now,
Speaker 2: if you've lost contact with us, call us back as
Speaker 2: Pauline did, and we will put you back at the
Speaker 2: head of the queue. Six one, seven, two, five, four
Speaker 2: ten thirty six one seven, nine, three ten thirty. Let
Speaker 2: me go next to Dawn in Arlington. Gone, you were
Speaker 2: next on nice side. Go right, a hit, sirup and darn.
Speaker 5: Just a question. I'd use you for an example. I
Speaker 5: live in Abington. I would like to go to the
Speaker 5: MOTECH school. You live in the shelter. They got an
Speaker 5: opening one who's going to get it? You from the
Speaker 5: shelter on me? That's a regular resident.
Speaker 2: That's a good question. By the way, do you actually
Speaker 2: live in Abingdon Yeah, I misread it. And by the way,
Speaker 2: my mistake I introduce you is down from Arlington. I
Speaker 2: don't want to confuse people, that's my mistake. Well, I
Speaker 2: would hope, I would hope that if you're a fourteen
Speaker 2: year old kid, obviously you're not and you're applying to
Speaker 2: to go to a voke tech school in Abington, that
Speaker 2: you would get priority over some student who has arrived
Speaker 2: here two months ago.
Speaker 5: But I must be.
Speaker 2: Honest with you, I have no confidence that that is
Speaker 2: the way it would work out, because I think they
Speaker 2: might say, well, they're all students, now, they're all unequal footing,
Speaker 2: let's let's put their names in a hat and see
Speaker 2: whose name we draw out.
Speaker 5: But the name didn't go in the hat. They were
Speaker 5: told that they have to take this one.
Speaker 2: Really. Oh, now you're you're not asking me about a hypothetical.
Speaker 2: You're you're telling me about I know that.
Speaker 5: Wow, And it wasn't in Abington. I did change some locations.
Speaker 2: That's okay, that's okay. That is that's that's legitimate. In Kingston,
Speaker 2: well I Kidston, if I'm not mistaken, does have a
Speaker 2: shelter and so hear of the.
Speaker 5: Old Howard Johnson's Wow.
Speaker 2: Wow, you know there's an example. Look, can you imagine
Speaker 2: if you're a kid in high school, or for that matter,
Speaker 2: a kid in middle, middle school or elementary school, and
Speaker 2: all of a sudden you have a lot of these
Speaker 2: these students who are now going to become your classmates,
Speaker 2: and they don't speak English. It's not their fault that
Speaker 2: they don't speak English, they've never been taught English. But
Speaker 2: the class is going to the classes are going to
Speaker 2: be slowed down, and the amount of subjects that, you know,
Speaker 2: subject matter that can be taught, obviously is going to
Speaker 2: have to be slowed down. So students who live in
Speaker 2: these communities, they they will suffer the consequences.
Speaker 5: And the shell is going to be short term shelter
Speaker 5: five days.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, a lot of them they say it's short term. Uh,
Speaker 2: and they just don't know that. Look, in some cases,
Speaker 2: the the the the bureaucrats, if you will, they don't know,
Speaker 2: and so they're guessing. And in some cases the bureaucrats
Speaker 2: lie because if they're facing a hostile crowd, as they
Speaker 2: faced in Norfolk and elsewhere, there's a lot of bureaucrats
Speaker 2: will say, oh, this is only gonna be tempory. It'll
Speaker 2: be thirty days and everything will be back to normal. No,
Speaker 2: they know, down deep, this is this is so unfair.
Speaker 2: And by the way, you won't have you will find
Speaker 2: there will be no shelters in places like Dover and
Speaker 2: Sherbourne and Weston and Whaland and Wellesley, all of the
Speaker 2: upper crust communities are going to be spared this. It's
Speaker 2: going to be in places like Taunted and places like Quinsy,
Speaker 2: and places like Rockland and places like Abington.
Speaker 5: And no, no, we won't get it, Dan, we will
Speaker 5: not get it.
Speaker 2: Well, maybe you're you're lucky. What I'm saying is.
Speaker 5: The hotel. We don't have public transportation and we don't
Speaker 5: have one hotel one.
Speaker 2: Okay, well you're fine, but you're you're fine. Let's let's
Speaker 2: hope that they don't find that there's some sort of
Speaker 2: public building to use them. All right, don look, I
Speaker 2: I appreciate, I appreciate your call. And it's good to
Speaker 2: know that this this it does really unfair injustice we've
Speaker 2: talked about. And whoever, if there is, if that student's
Speaker 2: family wants to be on this show and talk about it,
Speaker 2: if they happen to be listening, give me a call,
Speaker 2: tome On. We'll have them on, simple.
Speaker 5: As that, because it isn't me but my family.
Speaker 2: Okay, well have that person call, Have that person call
Speaker 2: me and and and we'll put them on and we'll
Speaker 2: talk about it, as simple as that. Because if they
Speaker 2: don't call their their their son or daughter, whoever's been
Speaker 2: denied admittance. Uh in you know, and and we're based
Speaker 2: he said, Hey, you you, as a citizen, are a
Speaker 2: second rate applicant for a vote for position in a
Speaker 2: vote tech school. That's just one.
Speaker 5: Things are going different now than when with the kid.
Speaker 2: Now, well you know what, they always seem to go different.
Speaker 2: But but if we don't stand up and address them,
Speaker 2: don Thank you so much for your call. It was excellent.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Thank you so much.
Speaker 5: And that that is the truth to him, I didn't.
Speaker 2: Get I got it done. I really do appreciate your call.
Speaker 2: Thank you much. Six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty,
Speaker 2: triple eight nine two nine ten thirty. I have wide
Speaker 2: open lines here, and I'll tell you what I'm going
Speaker 2: to do. If you are not interested in talking about
Speaker 2: this subject, and you're not interested in, uh in commending
Speaker 2: the Globe for taking a position which I'm sure is
Speaker 2: going to put them at odds with the Healy administration,
Speaker 2: then we'll go to open lines at eleven thirty. It's
Speaker 2: as simple as that, this is a really important subject, okay. Uh.
Speaker 2: If if you are sitting at home tonight and saying,
Speaker 2: you know, I really agree with what Dan's saying, but
Speaker 2: I don't want to call, or or maybe Mommy. Someone's
Speaker 2: gonna hear my voice and they're gonna look at me
Speaker 2: differently tomorrow because they've called. No, this is the time
Speaker 2: to join a chorus and say, first of all, the
Speaker 2: Globe did real journalism today. Okay. I don't think the Globe.
Speaker 2: Not too often do I commend the Globe. But this
Speaker 2: is on the front page of the Globe, page one
Speaker 2: above the fold, and it's a great piece of journalism
Speaker 2: that I would not expect to find in the Globe. Frankly, Okay,
Speaker 2: So I'm asking you to express your opinions. We've had
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of people in the last hour. I
Speaker 2: don't know if we're having trouble with our phone lines.
Speaker 2: Maybe we are. People have called, they've been up, and
Speaker 2: they drop off. I want to give people a chance
Speaker 2: to express themselves. That's the purpose of Nightside. If this
Speaker 2: subject is boring to you, if this subject is not
Speaker 2: something that's of interest to you, oh that's fine. We
Speaker 2: can go ahead and we can we can go open
Speaker 2: lines in the next half hour. I prefer not to
Speaker 2: six point seven, triple eight, nine, ten thirty. Let me
Speaker 2: go to Jim in Vermont. Jim, we don't get many
Speaker 2: calls from Vermont. I am thrilled to hear your voice tonight,
Speaker 2: Gorett Ahead.
Speaker 6: Jim, how's missive voice of sensibility doing tonight?
Speaker 2: The voice of reason is what my moonicer is.
Speaker 6: Well, I think you have the most sensible show on
Speaker 6: the radio. But anyway, so Discipilia, we didn't. We're not
Speaker 6: dealing with as much of the migrant problem up here
Speaker 6: as you ride down there. We are dealing with transparency problems.
Speaker 6: We've had a homeless problem up here for many years. Sure,
Speaker 6: Vermont is a very very lucrative welfare state. People come
Speaker 6: here for all the handouts. We always rate ranked top
Speaker 6: ten in the country for the dollar value which you
Speaker 6: can get with all your benefits. And christ you know
Speaker 6: we have a drug problem. In like Massachusetts, we have
Speaker 6: a very liberal state management. And you know they're all
Speaker 6: about the handouts.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you're you're the home of Brunie Sanders and
Speaker 2: uh and and Patrick Lahey.
Speaker 6: I think don't hold against me. Now we have a
Speaker 6: Becka ba Lant for a congresswoman who's she's all about
Speaker 6: the typical you know, left agenda. Well, you know, at
Speaker 6: the Punch, the punch list of climate, climate action, homelessness,
Speaker 6: portable housing, the same thing they always talk about all
Speaker 6: of that. Absolutely anyways, So you know, we we spent
Speaker 6: seventy five million dollars last year housing, uh, housing the homeless.
Speaker 6: And you know it's a big burden on the state
Speaker 6: because they don't just get to They just don't get
Speaker 6: a hotel room. They get their meals, they get the
Speaker 6: EBT card, they get if they can, get a free
Speaker 6: cell phone if they have to, the state will give
Speaker 6: them iPads, you know, so they can look for jobs. Supposedly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, I'm sure there's a lot of jobs seeking
Speaker 2: going on there. I don't think so. What about free laundry.
Speaker 2: I hope they get their laundry done at the hotel.
Speaker 6: Well I'm not sure about that part, but I.
Speaker 2: Know Massachusetts they get free laundry. So I'm telling you
Speaker 2: right now you should tell everybody and vermant who's up
Speaker 2: there as a migrant that they're missing out on free laundry.
Speaker 2: Come down to Massachuset. We got great hotels down here.
Speaker 2: We give them food, we give them ABD cards, we
Speaker 2: give them a cell phone, and we do their laundry.
Speaker 2: For them, you know, help the bird.
Speaker 6: There are a big burden on services up here because
Speaker 6: you know, they just do ache the drug problem, the overdoses.
Speaker 6: I mean in Burlington, for example, the fire department has
Speaker 6: full time crews sitting downtown just to deal with the overdoses,
Speaker 6: sitting at the park, you know, they on overtime. And
Speaker 6: then the police, you know, the hotels that are housing
Speaker 6: these people, they're they're you know, they're nothing but trouble
Speaker 6: the police between the drug dealing, the fighting, the prostitution,
Speaker 6: all that stuff that's happened in these hotels. Well, one
Speaker 6: thing the state is doing and again we don't have
Speaker 6: the money to fix the roads. We just got a
Speaker 6: fourteen percent property tax increase across the board everybody, which
Speaker 6: you know they will overwhelmingly voted for him and high
Speaker 6: five each other. That under the dome is that they're
Speaker 6: buying hotels and they're converting them into permanent housing for people.
Speaker 6: And I don't know what the money is coming from
Speaker 6: to pay for it, but they're doing it.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you we have found in Massachusetts our governor,
Speaker 2: Governor Healey has said, you know, this is not our problem.
Speaker 2: It's the federal government's problem to some extensions, correct there,
Speaker 2: But she has a Democratic president in the House, in
Speaker 2: the in the White House who has maintained and a
Speaker 2: vice president and you know in the Naval Observatory who
Speaker 2: who has said for years the borders are secure. Their
Speaker 2: borders aren't secure, They're wide open. And Governor Heally has
Speaker 2: asked for some financial help from the federal government and
Speaker 2: the answers have been crickets. And as a matter of fact,
Speaker 2: the federal government has said, no, we've run out of money.
Speaker 2: We have no money. We in Massachusetts have to balance
Speaker 2: the budget. Eventually, taxes will be going up. Well they
Speaker 2: have gone up in Massachusetts. We have the millionaires tax
Speaker 2: now and it will be going up across the board.
Speaker 2: And what will happen is more and more people who
Speaker 2: are who contribute workers, they're going to get up and leave.
Speaker 2: They're going to go to place is like Tennessee and
Speaker 2: South Carolina, Texas and Florida. That's that's the trend in
Speaker 2: this country.
Speaker 6: Well, it's all it's all intentional, Dan, you know that.
Speaker 6: I mean, if it wasn't, but they wouldn't be flying
Speaker 6: these migrants in the middle of the night when flights
Speaker 6: normal don't come into Logan. Okay, this is all planned.
Speaker 2: Well, they were all upset with Governor DeSantis of Florida
Speaker 2: who flew I think it was about thirty six migranes
Speaker 2: up and and and did it openly and publicly. They
Speaker 2: will they prosecutors, the one who would try to indict
Speaker 2: the governor of Florida, and yet they do it under
Speaker 2: the cover of darkness and they don't tell anyone. Again,
Speaker 2: no transparency, and there's no criticism. This article in the Globe,
Speaker 2: If if you have access to the Global article, the
Speaker 2: headline is, you can just go to Google Boston Globe.
Speaker 2: Heal the administration withholds key information about hotel contracts.
Speaker 6: And they're all doing it. You know, they're all They're
Speaker 6: all all the all these left UH states are doing it.
Speaker 6: And I said it's intentional. So one things this is interesting.
Speaker 6: If they really care about secure board. You take Governor
Speaker 6: Abbert Texas, he took measures to prevent them from crossing
Speaker 6: the rivers. Okay, he put in those bullys. Why would
Speaker 6: if he's taking measures to prevent illegal immigration across his
Speaker 6: state in New Mexico, why would Why would Biden I
Speaker 6: threaten him if he did not remove this. If Biden
Speaker 6: really cared about border security, he should be patting them
Speaker 6: on the.
Speaker 5: Back for well.
Speaker 2: First, first of all, Biden that never cared about border security,
Speaker 2: which is one of the reasons that the American public
Speaker 2: turned their back on Biden. Neither does the Vice president
Speaker 2: the czarina of the of the border. Okay, they looked
Speaker 2: at this as look, the Democrats are losing support amongst
Speaker 2: traditional Democratic their traditional Democratic base. They are losing support
Speaker 2: amongst Hispanic voters, their losing support amongst black voters. All
Speaker 2: the polls show that they need to find another wellspring
Speaker 2: of potential voters. And they thought this ten or eleven
Speaker 2: million people could be a well spring of voters.
Speaker 6: She's She's not a solution. She's just as bad as no.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, at this point, I kind of imagine
Speaker 2: how Democrats are going to uh support with with any
Speaker 2: uh with any excitement uh Kamala Harris, because remember she
Speaker 2: ran in twenty twenty and she was out of the
Speaker 2: race literally before the first vote was counted. She has
Speaker 2: one denomination, by the way, without ever having announced for
Speaker 2: the presidency, without ever securing a vote, without ever holding
Speaker 2: a news conference, without ever having a campaign office, anywhere.
Speaker 2: I'm calling this the immaculate nomination. I mean, it's incredible,
Speaker 2: it's incredible. Hey, I got to run here, my my producer,
Speaker 2: my new producers yelling at me. But that's okay. Jim,
Speaker 2: call more often, will you?
Speaker 6: I need to hear you talking.
Speaker 2: You good to talk.
Speaker 5: Thanks, I'm good night.
Speaker 2: I have a great one. The only line that's open
Speaker 2: is six one seven. My new producer is doing a
Speaker 2: great job. Uh. And Jim kintanno. Uh. And he's keeping
Speaker 2: me on my toes, which is what he's supposed to.
Speaker 2: Dan Cantano, excuse me. I was thinking about Jim and Vermont.
Speaker 2: I apologize. I apologize, Dan, it's been a little confusing
Speaker 2: the last hour or so. We'll be back on Nightside
Speaker 2: right after this.
Speaker 1: It's night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Let me go next to Rick and
Speaker 2: Bill Ricca. Rick next on Nightside, go on.
Speaker 7: Head swir Hey, Dan, how are you hey? I'm listening
Speaker 7: to your show. To not I had a half a
Speaker 7: container of ice cream. Probably wasn't the greatest idea, but
Speaker 7: it was it was good. And uh, I do care
Speaker 7: what you're talking about. I really can't comment too much
Speaker 7: about it because I haven't read the articles, but I'm
Speaker 7: glad the Hailey administration is being put under a microscope
Speaker 7: these actions, and you know I care, I don't know. Well,
Speaker 7: I'm right there.
Speaker 2: With him, obviously everybody should care. I'm delighted that the
Speaker 2: Globe has basically held the Healy administration's feet to the fire,
Speaker 2: as well as putting their actions under a microscope, because
Speaker 2: that's what journalism is supposed to be all about. I
Speaker 2: understand that their editorial page is supportive and has been
Speaker 2: supportive of the governor, which is fine, that's their decision.
Speaker 2: But this is really a huge story, in my opinion,
Speaker 2: for the Globe to basically call this administration out for
Speaker 2: not only being less than forthcoming with information that should
Speaker 2: be available, but also pointing out and I think pointing
Speaker 2: out rightfully. So there's one comment in here they talk
Speaker 2: about that they tried to get information. They said the
Speaker 2: state classifies any sort of media involvement in its shelter
Speaker 2: system a serious incident, requiring that the provider file a
Speaker 2: report with the housing agency as they would for police,
Speaker 2: fire or ambulance cause or if there was an accident
Speaker 2: that triggered a hospital admission. The result has been uncommon
Speaker 2: security and suspicion by providers. In May, a Globe reporter
Speaker 2: who tried to interview the owner of a motor large
Speaker 2: along Route one in Saugus was issued a no trespass
Speaker 2: order and told to stay off the property. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's something that's pretty Nixonian. I hate to say that,
Speaker 2: but that's something that you know, Richard Nixon might have
Speaker 2: thought about. Boy, if we can, if we can issue
Speaker 2: no trespass orders to reporters, that'll keep them in their place.
Speaker 2: This is itathetical to the free exercise of the First Amendment.
Speaker 2: When you're threatening reporters with no trespass orders.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I would say that you're on the you're on
Speaker 7: the money there, and uh, well I'm glad.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Usually the Globe is more protective.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 7: If I could say more protective of it.
Speaker 2: I would agree. They're very protective of the right.
Speaker 7: The Herald's Mary paper.
Speaker 2: This is the type of story that you would have
Speaker 2: expected to see in the Herald. It would still be
Speaker 2: good journalism in the Herald because it's seeking the truth.
Speaker 2: That's what journalism is supposed to be about. But to
Speaker 2: have this in the Globe.
Speaker 7: Hats off to the Globe, well exactly. And you you
Speaker 7: you were an investigative reporter on On and your TV days,
Speaker 7: which I remember a lot.
Speaker 2: I did stories which I'm happy to tell you put
Speaker 2: bad people in jail, and I did stories that got
Speaker 2: innocent people out of jail. And I I'm that is
Speaker 2: of what I'm most proud in.
Speaker 7: My career, and you should be proud. And I and
Speaker 7: there was a YouTube video of I don't know if
Speaker 7: I should say it, but well, it looks like you
Speaker 7: won the fight on this YouTube video. I guess someone
Speaker 7: gave you the business and you it's possible you might
Speaker 7: have you know, lights may have been punched out. I
Speaker 7: don't know I saw it. I can't find it now.
Speaker 7: Well you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but if you call me off ear,
Speaker 2: Rob or Dan will give you my phone number. There
Speaker 2: were a few times when when you know, I had
Speaker 2: to assert myself as a television reporter. And yes, I
Speaker 2: never got my lights punched out. And I don't think
Speaker 2: I ever punched anyone's lights out, but no one pushed
Speaker 2: me around.
Speaker 7: But I think you won in this particular video that
Speaker 7: I saw. But this got to go back forty.
Speaker 2: Oh that might have been. I know what you're talking about, dude,
Speaker 2: you're talking about it was a New Year's Eve in
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty when there was a drunk woman on New
Speaker 2: Year's Eve who tried to put herself between me and them,
Speaker 2: between me and my camera, and that is a that's
Speaker 2: a mortal sin. And I had to I had to
Speaker 2: push her out of the way. And I figured, oh
Speaker 2: my god, I'm going to be dealing with the drunk
Speaker 2: boyfriend who's going to come at me with a bottle.
Speaker 7: That didn't happen, And yeah, he probably is nineteen eight
Speaker 7: because I think you had those massive glasses everyone had,
Speaker 7: and you know.
Speaker 2: I wear I wasn't wearing glasses in nineteen eighty.
Speaker 7: No, yeah, well yeah, all the big people bore those
Speaker 7: big glasses. I think even Dean Martin did in it.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll maybe maybe you're talking about another reporter that
Speaker 2: I no.
Speaker 3: No, thanks, Mike, to talk to you.
Speaker 2: Great to talk with you as quick break here at Nightside.
Speaker 2: I got one line at six one seven, two five
Speaker 2: four ten thirty and two at six one seven nine
Speaker 2: three one ten thirty. Sounds to me like there's a
Speaker 2: lot of people who don't want to give the Globe
Speaker 2: credit tonight. And if you're not willing to give the
Speaker 2: Globe credit on this story and you've read the story,
Speaker 2: shame on you. If you're not willing to give the
Speaker 2: Globe credit, find it and read it and you'll be
Speaker 2: I think you'd be willing to give it credit. We'll
Speaker 2: be back on night Side. Got some room for you
Speaker 2: if you want coming back on nightside after this.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: night Side Studios. I'm WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: Back we go. We got full lines. It's great. That's great. Oh,
Speaker 2: let me go to Christina in Dedham who wants to
Speaker 2: talk about the hospital.
Speaker 9: Go ahead, Christina, Hi, it's Christina. How are you again?
Speaker 2: Like Christina, good to hear your voice.
Speaker 8: Thank you.
Speaker 9: I give the Globe a lot of credit for doing
Speaker 9: that story.
Speaker 2: Thank you. That's exactly what I was hoping you were
Speaker 2: going to say.
Speaker 9: Yes, it's about time, it is, but you got.
Speaker 2: To give him better late than never.
Speaker 9: That's Christine, exactly, exactly, ill.
Speaker 2: Exactly the sort of call I was looking for tonight.
Speaker 2: And you're one of the few who have who have
Speaker 2: rung the bell as far as I'm concerned tonight. Really,
Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I experienced it. Yesterday. I was at a certain
Speaker 9: hospital in Boston, and I was I was treated very rudely.
Speaker 9: And the other people, I'm not gonna you know, mention
Speaker 9: they were treated so nicely. But I when I came
Speaker 9: in the office, they were like phone number, address and
Speaker 9: day to breath. And I couldn't hear it. First, She's like,
Speaker 9: I told you what I just said to you. But
Speaker 9: all the others will come in and speak other languages,
Speaker 9: and it was so nice. And I experienced that, you know,
Speaker 9: I was like what And then they kept me sitting
Speaker 9: there wait and wait and wait, and you know, I'm
Speaker 9: like I was, I was. I was upset. So I
Speaker 9: realized how everybody else is. You know, it's not light.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, there should be courtesy for everyone. H citizens and migrants,
Speaker 2: like Christine has always thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 2: I'll see you in a few minutes on a postgame.
Speaker 9: Okay, even in debt, you know, we are a hope.
Speaker 9: Oh it's really bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean I think that, don't you don't
Speaker 2: you have a migrant center in debt in my belief.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, you do.
Speaker 2: You do.
Speaker 9: They're just stiff hanhandling it is it? They threaten you
Speaker 9: if you don't don't give them money.
Speaker 2: Oh it's awful, all right, thanks Christina, Thanks Christine soon.
Speaker 2: Thanks Okay, right, I think on calling on this line
Speaker 2: six that might be a repeat caller. Please if you
Speaker 2: could check that, Dan or Rob, either one of you
Speaker 2: could check it out, appreciate it. Let me go next
Speaker 2: to Michael in New Hampshire. Michael, you've been on and
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what you want to talk about. You
Speaker 2: go right ahead, Michael, Dan Mike.
Speaker 4: From Sale to Hampshire also known m J Bowl. I
Speaker 4: haven't talked to you quat a while.
Speaker 2: Ahead.
Speaker 4: I could give you an airfhone on this subject, but
Speaker 4: when you went open lines, I had to give you
Speaker 4: a call because I'm on the road from Williamsport back
Speaker 4: to New Hampshire at the Little League World Series and
Speaker 4: I know from you know listening to you, you're a
Speaker 4: big baseball guy. But I just wanted to see if
Speaker 4: you were tuning into the ESPN and watching the Little
Speaker 4: League World Series, because let me tell you, it's been
Speaker 4: great the last couple of weeks. My son's gone the
Speaker 4: New Hampshire team which is representing Masks Vermont and mains
Speaker 4: out at the Literalty World Series and the last couple
Speaker 4: of weeks, it's been a good reprieve from all the
Speaker 4: crop that's going on in the world, it's just been
Speaker 4: all about baseball and these boys and the kids from
Speaker 4: all over the countries, all over the all over the country,
Speaker 4: and all over the world. At the opening ceremony today
Speaker 4: in the CD interaction with these kids from the United
Speaker 4: States and Cuba and Venezuela, and some can't even communicate,
Speaker 4: just the language barriers, but just the smiles and thumbs
Speaker 4: up that they give each other, it's just refreshing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, boys, it's just awes.
Speaker 2: I'm happy to hear that. I gotta be honest with you.
Speaker 2: My days don't give me the liberty to do what
Speaker 2: you're doing. But having been through it with my own children,
Speaker 2: in terms of youth sports, I think it's the best
Speaker 2: experience a parent can have to watch their child succeed
Speaker 2: and sometimes even failed. Because in baseball, if you if
Speaker 2: you hit three hundred, you're three for ten. That means
Speaker 2: you succeeded three out of ten times. You failed seven
Speaker 2: out of ten times. So there are lessons to be
Speaker 2: learned on the diamond in little league right on up
Speaker 2: to the major leagues.
Speaker 4: And those boys don't understand Those boys don't understand it.
Speaker 4: When they've batten three hundred, you know, that's that's what
Speaker 4: the major leagues consider good and they get hard on themselves.
Speaker 4: But today it was the game of interrees. We lost Maui,
Speaker 4: Hawaii three three to one. We had bases loaded and
Speaker 4: we had a line drive to the third baseman who
Speaker 4: made a great have and touched the base and got
Speaker 4: that extra runner up for the double play and ended
Speaker 4: of the game.
Speaker 2: So all right, well, thank you for the play by play, Michael.
Speaker 2: We'll gotta go, gotta go here and get back on topic.
Speaker 2: But it was a nice respite, that's for sure. I
Speaker 2: wish I had more opportunity to, uh, to spend time
Speaker 2: doing that. Let me go to rich Is Newton. Rich
Speaker 2: you're next on nightside.
Speaker 8: Go right ahead, Rich, Hey, Dan, a couple of things.
Speaker 6: You do a great show.
Speaker 8: I'm glad you took some vacation time.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 8: You know, this border thing is a disgrace. It should
Speaker 8: have it should have stopped or fifteen years ago. It's
Speaker 8: a disgrace for the country, excuse me, not the country
Speaker 8: by Congress and the Senate and the presidents. It's a
Speaker 8: it's a it's ridiculous. It's like letting people with a
Speaker 8: disease come into the country. Now, there's a lot of
Speaker 8: nice people that are coming here. But the problem is
Speaker 8: years ago, Venezuela and Argentina were great countries. They were
Speaker 8: making money. People weren't coming from there. But the dictators
Speaker 8: took over and they run out the poor and the
Speaker 8: mental and the criminals so that they can have, you know,
Speaker 8: the luxury of just having the rich people there and
Speaker 8: it can't happen. But if our say, Cia, could have
Speaker 8: done their jump, they would have influenced people who were
Speaker 8: going to take over the government, the set of these
Speaker 8: dictators and make us pay billions and billions of dollars
Speaker 8: because like this we've been going through in the state.
Speaker 8: You know, they take over these hotel rooms and they
Speaker 8: used to get a buck fifty bucks, seventy five in
Speaker 8: a slow time, and they get three hundred. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 8: our own vets can't even get these kind of rooms.
Speaker 2: I mean it's you know, yeah, we have talked about
Speaker 2: all of that, and I think you're right. The one
Speaker 2: thing I would disagree with you on is I think
Speaker 2: that we need to be careful with our CIA, meaning
Speaker 2: that I don't think we should be in the business
Speaker 2: of overthrowing or installing, you know, other governments. I don't
Speaker 2: want countries messing with our elections, and I certainly don't
Speaker 2: think that we should be messing with others elections.
Speaker 8: But you're right, Russians already already given.
Speaker 2: I know that, But that doesn't make it right. All
Speaker 2: I'm just saying is.
Speaker 6: I agree with you.
Speaker 8: But the point is, when we're spending billions of dollars
Speaker 8: and these people are being sent here, we don't have
Speaker 8: to say, hey, put Joe Mo in there. But we
Speaker 8: could say, listen, this is a better safer person than
Speaker 8: this dictator that's gonna shoot and kill and the soldiers
Speaker 8: are gonna rape everybody. So the people that are gonna run,
Speaker 8: we're gonna give them some money.
Speaker 2: If I if I could just say this, Rich, I
Speaker 2: think the solution for us is to control our own
Speaker 2: damn borders and to say we are in country, we
Speaker 2: have borders. We will we will, we will men or woman,
Speaker 2: we we will staff those borders to prevent people coming
Speaker 2: in here. Illegally. If you want to apply for citizenship
Speaker 2: to the United States, do it legally, and we will
Speaker 2: look at your what you bring to the United States.
Speaker 2: As I've often said, Look, if we have doctors and
Speaker 2: nurses who are qualified coming from Bangladesh, they go to
Speaker 2: the head line. And if we have lawyers coming in
Speaker 2: from Ireland. We got plenty of lawyers. Maybe we can
Speaker 2: get to them, but they're going to be at the
Speaker 2: back of the line. We have an interest in protecting
Speaker 2: our borders, and we have. The Biden administration abandoned that
Speaker 2: interest many years ago.
Speaker 8: He great, but the problem is it continues no matter
Speaker 8: to me, no matter who's in the government. This should
Speaker 8: have stopped, you know, twenty years ago, but it didn't
Speaker 8: because it was cheap labor. But you know, the borders
Speaker 8: have been a joke for three years, whether it's Biden
Speaker 8: or Trump or anybody else.
Speaker 2: No, Trump, Trump did a better job on the borders
Speaker 2: than Joe Biden. If you had a choice between controlling
Speaker 2: your borders having one as president and one is not
Speaker 2: as president. And I'm not a Trump guy, okay, right,
Speaker 2: but Trump did a better job on the border by
Speaker 2: far than Biden. He cooperated with Mexico, and he kept
Speaker 2: the borders much tighter than Biden and harristed on that point, Rich,
Speaker 2: I got to end the show. I'm sorry, I gotta
Speaker 2: go out of like thank out of time. Thanks very
Speaker 2: much to the callers in the line show where you
Speaker 2: called earlier. But we'll be back tomorrow night at eight o'clock.
Speaker 2: I will do a nightside postgame tonight. You might be
Speaker 2: surprised with what I say. All dogs, I want to
Speaker 2: thank Dan and Rob, and I want to thank Marita,
Speaker 2: and I want to tell you that all dogs, all cats,
Speaker 2: all pets go to heaven. That's why Pal Charlie ray
Speaker 2: Is who passed sixteen years ago in February, fourteen years
Speaker 2: ago in February, excuse me, that's where all your pets
Speaker 2: are who have passed. They loved you and you love them.
Speaker 2: I do believe you'll see them again. Have a great
Speaker 2: Thursday everyone. We're back tomorrow night at eight o'clock on
Speaker 2: Nightside